Thank you. Thank you. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you're at in this crypto world. My name is Cody, and today we are throwing an audible and having a little bit of a different format for today's show.
Instead of our traditional roundtable, we are diving into an exclusive interview with the Pipe G Dao.
And it's Mutsi in particular behind the account.
The founder, the boss, the dawn,
hefe, commander and captain of the G Dow project.
Well, welcome to have you.
So bear with me here for just one sec.
I am trying to get a few things situated here,
and then we will kick this interview off.
Is it just going to be you, or is Wayne going to be joining us as well?
It'll just be me for today.
Okay, perfect. All right, give me give me one second we'll kick this thing off All right.
I just did an interview with a group called Song Jam.
I don't know if you've heard of them or not,
but they've kind of got a cool little unique
thing trying to add their little bot widget guy to our our space here because uh it's kind of like a
fireflies for hosts it's a it's a great way to kind of keep track of the the space and things
like that but i'm still trying to get it trying to figure out how it works. But anyways, can't figure it out.
Excuse me. So we'll just kind of jump in today.
So if you're just tuning in, my name is Cody.
Instead of our traditional round table discussion this week,
we are pulling an audible and basically having an exclusive interview with the PypeGDAO.
They are one of the latest projects to launch on the L1X platform.
And we are excited to have them today so that the community can get to know them.
We've gotten to know them quite a bit over the last little while as they've been joining us on spaces through L1X as well as some of the other ones as well that L1X has been participating in.
So great, great project, very interesting,
but I don't want to still put these thunder here,
so I'll let him kind of go ahead
and just kind of tell us a little bit
about what the PypeG DAO is.
just kind of tell us a little bit
Sure, no problem, Cody, I can certainly do that. is to create thousands of community-led impact venture funds.
Rather than just having it done by TradFi,
there's a $2.3 trillion impact finance market out there,
including ESG and, you know, renewable stuff.
You know, so these are things like impact ETFs, you know, ESG-type investments
and so on, particularly for impact.
And there's a $2.3 trillion, excuse me, markets out there.
And we aim to take a 1% market share out of that impact finance market,
either by, so that's $26 billion over 10 to 15 years.
It's an ambitious goal, but I think we can do that.
And that's going to be powered by our GDAO token.
And in terms of where we come from, and when I say impact,
we mean either societal impact, environmental impact, or commercial viability. So we want to,
using our technology and our community, deploy a number of blockchain-based impact funds
that can fund impact initiatives all over the world.
That can make a huge impact.
So in terms of the origin story, that comes from the Pipe platform
And what Pipe does is it commercializes or de-risks impact projects made from university labs.
So basically anything which comes out of cutting-edge scientific research from universities is impact.
And so Rob, who's my ecosystem co-founder, he was consulting universities on how to commercialize their projects, what's
known as technology transfer, so taking something which has been researched from university
and making that into something commercially viable.
So he was doing this with a bunch of spreadsheets, as you can imagine, and then he realized that,
hmm, I can digitize this whole process.
And so he brought Andy, who's the CI Chief Information Technology Officer
over at the pipe company, and they built the pipe platform over lockdown.
So once they built the platform, they started getting university projects
to disclose their work on there, right?
And it's technology agnostic.
Why is disclosure important over,
in Europe, for every 1 million euros spent on research and development, there's only
one disclosure, as in it is disclosed outside the scientists or the institution in terms of
what they're actually working on. So the lack of disclosure is a huge problem, right? Even knowing
what other people are researching on and what
cutting-edge research is out there.
Because there's no single platform that
scientific research without
disclosing any inventive steps
in a secure manner, which is standardized.
they started getting all these projects on
we need a funding mechanism
and Pipe, they were offered
150 million euros or something
to set up a general partnership
that's a kind of similar model.
up as, right? And they've
TradFi before, particularly
And they did some research and they found that
actually blockchains and DAOs are a good way
And so Rob found me on LinkedIn.
We've had a series of meetings and then I was brought on board
as a joint venture partner and co-founder to co-found the GDAO,
to co-found the GDAO, the Pipe GDAO.
And we then launched a blockchain-based impact fund
called the PGF Launchpad,
where the community can invest directly.
It's a membership platform.
I have to stress it's for members.
And the membership benefits,
they get ROI from an early exit.
So we've also built a pipe exchange, which are launching soon.
This is where, so we want to raise $2 million for five startups on the PGF launchpad that are from the universities.
universities, that's us proving first principles. And then they can then go into the Pipe Exchange,
That's us proving first principles.
get acquired by a VC or other institution, and then go off and hopefully do an IPO.
But the PGF launch plan, the Pipe ecosystem would have made that possible. And now using the same
framework, which is the Web3 fund, and so we've built one fund but we are building other types as well permission funds and SEO platforms
90 hours of due diligence
on these university startups
and getting them to the point where they're invested ready
building teams around them and so on
so when you actually become a PGA Flawless Fund member
and you start investing in these startups
you can actually also potentially join their team as well.
You can actually read the business plan and end up becoming a team member and earnings with equity.
These are some of the possibilities there. to launch their own fund to solve a specific problem. You know, it could be renewable energy grid in an African village
or plastic ocean cleanup or whatever it is.
They can set up their own GDAO fund.
And then the project will then go through the PyP platform,
just like all the other projects on there,
to make sure that the community's money is being released based on milestones,
making sure there's a team, making sure actually this impact startup is commercially viable
before it goes to market.
So we want to expand this framework, the Web 2 and Web 3 framework, and use that to solve
impact problems globally.
No, this sounds really amazing.
Definitely really, really amazing.
So I take it that for CryptoPsycho and I, we can't create our own GDAO for having hair
extensions put in, right? It has to be more of a social impact type of program, right?
Yes, but also if it's commercially viable,
so it's any one of these.
So something which is not necessarily ESG,
quote unquote, but something which is commercially viable.
So it doesn't have to be societal impact or environmental impact.
If it's commercially viable and the community wants it,
as long as by launching this commercially viable entity, it does have an impact.
So, hey, here's a business that otherwise couldn't have been here.
It's creating jobs, it's paying taxes, it's so on and so forth.
That's societal impact as well.
So if it's commercially viable, it can potentially get funded, even if there's no environmental impact per se.
Gotcha, gotcha But to your question I don't think
extensions for bold old guys
Oh shoot, I mean we're both
you know, I think a good host
with a good head of hair definitely draws
No, this is definitely really interesting.
And and I think it is something that's that is important of what you guys are doing.
You definitely hit upon it right at the very beginning, which was, you know, a lot of these projects that start out at the university level are not getting noticed.
level are not getting noticed. Is that primarily the only reason or there are other main reasons
why, according to your website here, 83% of the university inventions fail to see the light of day?
What are some of those other contributing factors that that tie into that sure so i mean
this this comes out of or we come out of the european paradox the state of affairs where
you know europe has really failed to produce a tech unicorn like to the rate that america has
or china has right possibly spotify possibly Skype, although that was acquired.
You know, they always end up being acquired by a big American and Chinese company for the most part, right?
You know, Ozempic, I suppose, is biotech.
So I suppose that's an exception.
But how often do we get an Ozempic coming out?
So just to give you an example, I think the entire GDP increase for the country of Denmark in 2023 or 2024, I think 2023, was because of OSMPIC.
The GDP increase of an entire country for one year was because of one biotech company.
So the European paradox, a lot of it is to do with Europe is the established continent, so to speak, right?
So they kind of have a very, the institutions in Europe, especially in the public sector, they end up just serving themselves because they've been there for such a long time, like the Jedi Council before the fall of the Republic.
So it's a very risk-averse culture, you know,
and, you know, the appetite to commercialize and taking risks
They really want to just play it safe.
They want to get a licensing deal or something and just move it on,
just find their salary, but they're not really trying to take as many risks.
So, you know, there's lack of collaboration between universities and the commercial sector.
There's a whole bunch of challenges within the European paradox.
There's a whole bunch of challenges within the European paradox.
I mean, if you look at America, look at Harvard, like $36 billion in endowments there.
You know, the alumni give back to these universities when they leave.
And so they have all this funding risk in there and they take more risks.
I think, you know, in the U.S., as I'm sure you know, there's a country built on risk-taking, right?
So I think it's risk-averse culture, but it's also because the university projects, most of them are not, they are lab research, scientific research.
But in terms of, hey, can this work commercially?
Yeah, they are high risk, right?
So that's another reason.
Because they're early stage and because they're not the next, I don't know, TikTok or whatever,
it requires patient capital based on boring scientific research, that kind of stuff, right?
Which takes years to come to fruition.
So they're just too risky.
Most of them don't meet the VC's criteria, yeah,
until they've reached a certain level.
So they're largely dependent on government funding.
But that runs out, right?
Because you get government funding to do some research.
You've done the research, but it's like,
I don't have any more funding to commercialize this.
So a lot of these problems have led us to understand
that there's a funding gap.
And if that funding gap was filled,
everything else we think would start to operate properly, right?
Because once these projects have gone through the due diligence,
which is what we have a unique process called QED, question, evaluate, decide, and of course the disclosure and validation process as well.
Once it's gone through the due diligence, 90 hours, and a team is built around it, it then actually meets the criteria for VCs and that kind of stuff.
So yeah, just the projects don't meet the criteria along with the other factors that I mentioned.
Yeah, that's really, really good info.
I mean, being here in the States, you definitely nailed it on the head.
I mean, for me, being a serial entrepreneur as well,
obviously, I'm not dealing with the social and environmental kind of impact.
A lot of my stuff has always been around technology.
You know, one of the things that I did find as an entrepreneur
is to work with some of these business concepts,
these projects with the university students.
A lot of them do have programs. They do have accelerators,
incubators type of thing. Not only do you use the kids, the students for cheap labor,
I guess you could say, but it definitely does get some quick backing by the university as well,
which is really good because if they see the value in
what you're basically trying to do, you're providing an opportunity for the students to
learn and to research and to help build. A lot of these guys, I do have one university that I work
with occasionally on a few projects that have offered, you know, VC level funding for me, especially around the initial seed, private and seed rounds of things.
And they've really helped get projects off the ground.
is without that outside push of somebody pushing the narrative,
there are so many good projects, like you mentioned, that just get buried.
Either political, because of political dynamics, because of lack of funding,
because of lack of expertise on how to get it out to the masses.
All those different things that you have talked about
earlier is definitely a real problem.
So I think you're headed down a good path, that's for sure.
And just to add to that, I mean, just based off of what you're saying, it's a lot easier
Yeah, it's a lot, to IPO in the States.
Yeah, it's a lot, lot easier to do that, right? So, and obviously IPO, that's where you typically raise your capital
to then do your big expansion, right?
And in China, they don't need to IPO as much
because there are lots of state-owned banks at maybe the seed level or Series A level, particularly seed, which provide that capital so that the startups can reach that level, right?
Where, okay, maybe out of 200, maybe only 5 make it or 10 make it, right?
But the capital is there, right?
Whereas in Europe, you don't really have either of those. You don't really have state-owned bank actors and you don't have
a vibrant IPO ecosystem, right? So I think this is where blockchain and Web3 and community
funding can really, really plug that gap, right?
Because where are projects going to get their seed capital without giving away too much of their company?
That's also a huge problem.
You give away too much of a company too soon.
They take it out of your hands and they just sell it for parts.
So getting the community together and getting them to decide what projects get, you know, get to market and see the light of day.
That's what we want to do. You know, we want to empower the community to actually fund projects through the membership that could change the world, that could change their lives and the lives of other people and make some profit from it as well.
Yeah, I'm kind of curious how it works outside of the US because I know some of the, like I said earlier, some of the projects that I've worked on, if the university can get patents off of it, that's like the number one thing that they're definitely looking for is to build up their patent war chest, I guess you could say, because that definitely brings in the revenue for the school on a long-term thing.
Is that kind of the case over in Europe as well?
Yes, but sometimes they patent too early, right?
And actually what the Pi platform does is it kind of tells you, it helps you to guide you to what, when, and where you should patent
and what you should patent.
Because just getting a patent, sometimes it could be too narrow in its scope
and it therefore can't be commercialized, right?
So, again, what the platform does, people can disclose what they're working on
without disclosing the inventive step.
And then it could actually then guide them through the process to say, okay, this work on this work on this work on this before you apply for a patent or
apply for a provisional patent so you can make some changes to the thing as you go along right
so patenting is actually part of the problem in that rushing to patent something because just
because you've patented something doesn't mean it's commercially viable, doesn't mean it can work. I mean, I own a patent
myself, one of my startups, you know, we've had that since 2019, we're still unable to commercialize
it right now because of various reasons. Yeah, so yeah, rushing to patent is part of the problem.
Yeah, and I don't know about outside the U.S., but I know that inside
the U.S., the patent laws are freaking insane. There's a much needed upgrade, I guess you'll
call it, to kind of clean things up. They have it so that now a lot of investors look at potential patents
along with your business as almost risks on the books, especially here in the States, because
even though I filed, for an example, I hold a patent as well with one of my previous startups that actually LinkedIn has been knocking on the door
We were able to steal it right underneath their nose.
And it's one of those things that it's,
we could never get funding for the project,
but the patent is so nice.
But they tried to come back and tried to, three years after we had filed, they tried to come back and steal it from us stating that they were doing it long before we were, which wasn't the case, right?
But that's amazing with the way that the patent laws are set up is it's like somebody can come in and claim it literally three years later and put you into a financial uh uproar thank goodness
my partner was a lawyer so no legal fees there but he handled all of it but you can just imagine
for any small business when you have a big titan like that come in and and try to try to strong arm you into giving it up.
It's, uh, it's one of those things, but yeah.
Yep. Uh, so yeah, kind of curious, does it, is it kind of similar laws over, over where you're at as well?
Yeah. Yes. Yes. There are similar laws.
And so the problem is if,
if you file for the patents and then it gets published and you do that too early, people can then go and nick it, as we say in the UK, try and do the same thing but do it in a different method and say, oh, we cannot put this first retrospectively, right?
platform does is it allows you to securely disclose your idea without the inventive steps,
what was known as leaning in, in a secure encrypted platform, right? So that you can
disclose it, people, you can build a company around it, build a team around it, so that it
doesn't affect your freedom to operate, right? So that's one of the reasons why there's a lack of disclosure and also a lack of commercialization because of the effects
that's disclosing some of your idea to you without losing
your freedom to operate or even patenting it too early
and you've given away the secrets, right?
And someone can then just go and do something similar.
So there has to be a platform where people can disclose their ideas
in an agnostic way, and that's what the Pi platform does
So if a VC wants to see your stuff, they have to sign,
they have to use hashes to say, okay, I've looked
at this disclosure and I've signed that I've looked at it, right?
So someone now, if they now then try to say, oh, it was me first, like, no, we have proof
on our encrypted, it's kind of like Web3 wallet signing, but on Web2 using hashes instead.
So you can then prove that, sorry,
this was first disclosed on the PyP platform
and you viewed it here and this is the evidence
that you viewed this disclosure on the PyP platform.
Therefore, sorry, you can't come after us.
So that's a huge part of it.
Anything you can do to get yourself out there showing that you're are trying to do
the origin story let's talk a little bit about your guys's uh creative elements that you guys
have you you have some pretty unique um graphics yeah a little bit of branding uh around the Pyke G DAO. Just curious, who came up with that
and what kind of drove the inspiration there?
So Wayne came up with that
because he's our branding designer.
So he said it's like a retro-esque thing.
So he changed the branding up
for when we first started.
So not retro specifically, but retro-esque in terms of kind of old school, right?
Because I don't like when people say retro as people just say anything old is retro,
Retro is the 50s, you know, kind of that's a specific period in time.
But yeah, you know, Wayne got the idea to have this kind of retro-esque kind of branding.
You'll see Einstein and you'll see his kind of 60s, pre-60s look and feel.
Because, you know, yeah, we're trying to make people feel that, hey, you're building something, you know, that Einstein could have done, you know, in his time.
Yeah, so that was done by Wayne.
And then in terms of the coloring, I mean, I chose the color green
as the primary color because of chakras, right?
Green is the color associated with renewal regeneration you know the earth the
planets that kind of stuff so that's why i i chose that as the main color and then wayne ran with it
type thing that's why you see green as a primary color there
no i love it uh so let's kind of talk about the team.
You mentioned Wayne and some of those that have listened
into previous spaces that you guys have participated in.
You know, Wayne has definitely been your right hand person there.
But do you mind telling us a little bit more about the team over there at PypeG, like designers, mods, community managers, programmers, you know, all that?
Who's on the team over there?
So besides Wayne, he's also part of my management team, so he helps me lead the project.
He is our token growth manager he uh he runs his own like crypto trading desk as well as other commodities trading desk as
well so he's a trading company uh he's also one of our investors as well so he participated in
the preceded round for the gdao and you know you know he's a shareholder in the pipe company as
well that's that thing um and yeah he handles token growth he's a neoholder in the pipe company as well. That's a thing.
And yeah, he handles token growth.
He's a Neo Tokyo member as well.
So he has a Neo Tokyo NFT and has his benefits.
So we've been milking that as much as possible as you can imagine.
And Wayne, he is a member of MSV as well.
So he played a role in off thethe-grid type thing as well
because he's part of the MSV guild.
Then we have two community managers, Badrack and Ruth.
Badrack handles the Telegram and TaskCon side of things,
whereas Ruth is focused on Discord community management.
Then we have three mods in our Discord as well.
And then we have Connor, who's our podcast host.
So he's the guy that you hear on the podcast and stuff.
And I've actually put an episode of our podcast there as well.
If you just go to pretty much anywhere where you listen to a podcast,
just type in the pipe GDOW and you'll
helps you understand a lot more about the ecosystem
because there's a lot to take in
in terms of concepts and that kind
you deep dive in there. Of course,
as the founder. I have Pew, deep dive in there. But, of course, there's me.
As the founder, I have a whole bunch of – I'm mostly a technology – I'm a tech, sales, and marketer.
Digital marketing, sales, and technology, that's my sweet spot.
And then we have Eidid and he runs Hexmount
who are the developers for the
CITO has been around for a long time.
built and sold two companies, the CITO, been around for a long time. Rob, he has built and sold two tech companies,
one to IBM and one to ExxonMobil.
So someone who's actually experienced in building tech ventures up
and flipping them on, selling them on type thing.
So we have a mixture of younger, more Web3-oriented guys,
and we have the older, wiser, more Web2, more TradFi kind of guys on the pipe side,
and together we make up the PipeJidow ecosystem, and we do have advisors as well.
But we are looking to grow.
We want a community manager for X as well.
And we want some other advisors as well, you know, in the nonprofit space, AI,
you know, just to fill in some of the knowledge and experience gaps that we don't have.
So I hope that answers your question.
Yeah, it definitely does.
It gives us a pretty in-depth look at the team that you guys are building over there as well.
We know that in the Web3 space, it always definitely takes a team to survive,
especially during the different cycles.
So, yeah, and being a founder, totally get it. Wear the multiple,
multiple hats. It's definitely a must, but it is always nice when your project is growing to
the point where you can hand those off to new people as well. But yeah, thanks for kind of
disclosing that in-depth view uh view into your guys's team
that's for sure so uh we're coming up on the the half hour mark uh for those that are just tuning
in my name is cody and i am your host of this exclusive interview with the pipe g dow team and
G DAO team. And we're excited to have them not only on today's episode of Xtalks, but also to
have them be one of the projects just recently launched on the L1X blockchain. So yeah, pretty
exciting times for sure. So if you guys happen to have any questions for the PypeG DAO, please, please
definitely throw those down into the comments below and we'll make sure that they get those
pulled up here at the end of the episode or we'll have the GDAO team go and basically respond to
those as they definitely come in.
So kind of moving along and talking about the L1X platform a little bit,
what kind of made you guys want to come and work with L1X?
You know, once you found out about us and what we were doing, what was that one thing that kind of drew you into the ecosystem?
Well, it's because for the PGF Launchpad, which is our first DAP, that's the blockchain-based
fund that I mentioned to you before.
I'll try to get a good link for it so you guys can check it out.
You get a good link for it so you guys can check it out.
My approach has always been to be blockchain agnostic as much as possible.
You have to be multi-chain and cross-chain as much as possible.
I think that actually allows a larger number of users to your product rather than just being tribal on one chain and then everyone else in another chain misses out, right?
People shouldn't have to bridge their assets as much as possible uh you know we want to just improve the user experience
so people can just participate in the depth on their chain that they're on as much as possible
so when i came across layer 1x you know you know using my i'm a biz dev guy a sales guy so i was
just doing biz dev looking for partners i I found L1X on a space
and I got talking to Mike because they explained that they're interoperable. I was like, huh,
interoperability, multi-chain. That's part of our approach as well. And we got to talking and yeah,
the rest is history because right now the issue we're having with the PGF launchpad is that we
have to manage multiple like wallets on multiple chains.
That can become operationally intensive, especially when we're processing payments and that kind of stuff.
Whereas just having one token contract on one chain, that actually means that we don't have to, you know,
that means that we don't have to
but it means that we only have to deploy one
contract and it's interoperable everywhere
so the interoperability or
multi-chainness or cross-chainness that's always
been a big part of my approach
because you know obviously coming from a Web2
it doesn't matter what the
underlying technology is, underlying blockchain
is, it shouldn't matter what the underlying technology is, underlying blockchain is, it shouldn't matter.
So that's what attracted us to Layer 1X initially, the interoperability.
Yeah, talking with a lot of different projects, it definitely turns some heads as soon as we start talking about the native,
bridgeless interoperability that we have the capabilities for sure.
It's one of my favorite things to talk about, especially on these different themed spaces around interoperability, bridges, you know, all that kind of stuff.
Because I'm always the one in there going hashtag burn the bridges.
So, yeah, yeah, no, that's way cool. of stuff because i'm always the one in there going hashtag burn the bridges so um yeah yeah
no that's way cool uh you know and kind of moving forward you guys are you guys are deploying the uh
gdao token is uh is launched on the l1x uh on the quantum decks as well um Do you want to talk a little bit about that?
Sure. Yeah, exactly. So the GDAO token has always been a key part of our mission in terms of the
community use that to vote to deploy other GDAOs. If they want another GDAO instance created to
solve another imprep problems, they use the GDAO token to vote on that.
And that then gets created so that we don't have just one DAP,
one token for one problem, right?
Or one token for one DAP or one token for one fund, right?
And so, you know, following from the interoperability piece,
you know, having our token interoperable means that we're going to attract liquidity
from multiple networks type thing.
And yes, so we have launched on the L1X Quantum Dex,
one of the first projects.
Us and Biscuit are the first two projects
to launch on the Dex as well.
And, you know, we didn't have to front any capital ourselves for liquidity.
Layer 1X was helpful to provide us with some WL1X as well as ours.
Yeah, it's been a good launch, particularly because it's secure, right?
Because one of the main problems is, as I'm sure you know,
is all the time when you're launching on a DEX,
there's all kinds of MEV bots out there trying to suck your liquidity away.
It's a huge, huge problem.
And so the Quantum DEX was also a way for us to securely launch our token,
which is now what we've done as well.
So I believe interoperability on other chains is coming in the next week
or two in terms of, you know,
and that kind of stuff in terms of people
being able to create liquidity
pools on other chains and stuff.
That's coming there, but that's all
on one deployment. We don't have to have multiple
deployments everywhere type of thing.
So yeah, we have launched.
I'm not going to go into pricing and so on
because it's not financial advice, of course.
Yeah, not financial investment advice.
Lots of crypto projects often lose money.
Okay, I've said all I can say on that part.
But, yeah, we have launched in the Quantum Dex.
And, you know, yes, it uh yes a great experience so far awesome yeah uh just been kind of following it as well it seems like it was a
really good launch for you guys as well uh the quantum decks like you mentioned does have the
biscuit uh we don't worry we'll get those guys around for an AMA as well,
because I know there's a few people that are dying to get to know the team and what their
plans are, as well as a few of the other tokens that are going to be launching over the next
Some pretty good projects coming up.
So way to lead the charge, my friend, no doubt.
So on top of that, there's been also another opportunity
for you guys to kind of kick the tires around
on a newer project called the G-Starter Launchpad, right?
I think that's what it's called.
Do you mind kind of talking about that a little bit?
Sure. Yes. We're building
GStarter in collaboration with Layer 1.x.
It's going to be an interoperable Launchpad.
One of the few, one of the first out there.
It won't require any bridging as well.
That is the medium of exchange.
For that, it's going to be liquid staking tokens
that people have from Lido
and other Ethereum staking,
liquid staking providers.
The idea there is that a lot of those liquid-taking tokens don't have
any utility. It's already billions sitting in LSTs, but where is that
being used and deployed? So that's
one of the main things about that, besides
interoperability. But we're going to have
an AI element to it as well,
which is kind of an AI agent which will help to buy and sell your tokens
at the target that you want.
So if you're looking for a 10x, 5x, whatever it is,
you put those settings on the launchpad,
and then it'll then do QA, TA on the DEX.
So this will, I'm assuming, I think we'll be using Quantum DEX
as our DEX to launch for IDO platform.
And as soon as your token reaches a certain level,
it initiates a sell transaction, right?
And that's going to be done via the release pool mechanism as well, right?
So, you know, sometimes your tokens might do 5X, 10X,
but you're asleep or you're away and it's come back down like,
So at least this way with the Gstarter, that'll be managed for you.
with the G starter, that'll be managed for you.
So think as like a personal asset management platform
for new tokens, for fresh tokens that are launching.
And I think that there's a lot of people understand
because we've been kind of rolling out like the release pool and then the 0% loan like you and Biscuit went through.
And then also the Gstarter platform, they all sound cool, but I don't know for those that we'll just call it for those that are going to be tuning in later that aren't L1X OGs, let's just say. pool the g starter and also those loans will do for not only kick-starting newer projects that
wouldn't have been able to see the light of day per se because of lack of liquidity but also how
that momentum and how that structure can give them the the strong footing that they need to move forward?
So, and trifecta is the right word there.
Because the Gstarter, it helps to kind of de-risk launchpad investing for lots of projects for lots of consumers.
So people will be able to pick if they want high risk,, medium-risk, low-risk projects, what kind of return they want.
And then we will have a project scoring mechanism, which is automated, smart contract-based,
with obviously some Web2 integrations which will help to tell people.
So I think for us, it's about giving the choice to the community as to what they want to invest in.
Sometimes something might be considered high risk because it hasn't reached certain milestones, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's not going to fly, right?
So for us, it's about giving users the agency as to what kind of projects they want to invest in in terms of early stage stuff.
So I think it's really good from a user perspective.
And also because it's interoperable and bridgeless, you know, these
projects are not going to be tied to one chain when they're launched
as well. So there's that. And then the loan system
as well, which really helps the
projects do their IDO in terms of getting liquidity, right?
Because I think, you know, those that launch with 50K or less, they typically don't make it, right? So if you have that financing mechanism to do the IDO, and then you also have the LSTs for your raise, and then you have a community that's there already,
you know, from L1X, which is intropable,
which actually helps with the user experience.
I think that's a pretty powerful combination.
Definitely, definitely some momentum,
because, you know, speaking with a lot of different projects, it's very interesting how specifically around the gaming industry, how games have, I think we're up to like 30 studios that have closed just in 2025 alone.
And a lot of them have been, have correlated it to lack of funding, right?
And in web three, there's a real problem of not being able to get noticed, right? Because a lot
of these games are requiring people to come to their game, come to the, you know, their, their
ecosystem that they're in, rather than like in web 2 or like what you guys are doing with your university thing,
you're trying to amplify that through a platform where they only have to go to the platform to get access to the users, right?
And so really you guys are bringing users to projects, projects to users,
but you're also providing that foundation, which is paramount.
Because like you said, most projects can't last.
Usually once they launch their project, their token, if they can't get it up off the ground with liquidity and things like that,
they're screwed after like three to four months.
After like three to four months, they usually go belly up, which we've seen quite a bit across the board with DeFi, gaming, RWA projects, you know, all that kind of stuff.
And so I think that this is a standardized kind of element that is definitely been needed in the Web3 space to give it a fighting chance.
a fighting chance because like you said, there are so many forces against newer projects that
are launching because they're trying to suck all the liquidity that they can out of the early
investors. That's for sure. So great call. Great call out. Yeah, we're almost at the top of the
hour. I just have a couple more questions for you. Hopefully these haven't been too hard of questions for you, my friend, but we'll definitely
keep it going. You know, with the L1X partnership kind of integrated into the ecosystem, like where
do you see not only the PypeG DAO headed, the direction, where do you see Gstarter? And do you see any other opportunities that you can probably start to kind of complement
those first two projects that you're working on?
Yeah, so I mean, I think Gstarter will be quite key because, you know, the way that we charge,
I think we'll charge on a percentage as opposed to charging our front launchpad fees, which is a big barrier to entry for projects that could be good.
But hey, $15,000, $20,000 or $3,000 upfront might be a bit much, right?
So yes, we take more on the back end, but at least the last projects to get listed.
And that, again, coupled with the loan system
and the liquidity provision
and the interoperable tokens,
I think that's already powerful.
And I see Gstarter as the interoperable launchpad.
I see it taking quite a bit of market share
or even creating an entirely new market, right?
Because it'll be much easier to use and to actually manage all your launchpad coins without having to bridge a whole bunch of things and switching wallets and all this kind of stuff, right?
You can just do that all in one place.
But also it allows you to kind of choose your risk as well
and actually get the ROI returns that you want as well.
So, yeah, I see Gstarter going far in that regard,
because that's the interoperable token launchpad.
So if you want to launch a token that's interoperable, you go to Gstarter.
You can get your token minting done.
All that kind of stuff is all done.
So I think we will see a lot of newer actors, a lot more competition from newer projects coming into the space that otherwise would not have been able to come in via Gstarter.
We are also building an STO platform.
So the pipe company, which is the Web 2.1,
we're going to plan to actually sell up to 25% of our shares.
And the blockchain, so we're going to be using L1X to do that.
We also need to write some stuff up on our white paper for that.
And that's going to be part of our permissioned decentralized investment fund.
So this is the one where you have to do KYC, AML, that kind of stuff.
And therefore, you can take on larger investments.
You can pick the actual projects you want to invest in, unlike the PGF launchpad.
That's coming up as well. And so once they do RSTO for the pipe company, the projects on the decentralized investment fund wanted to do a Series A raise.
After they've raised money from the PGF launchpad, they'll be able to then or have an IPO, a public listing event for your assets or your whatever before you list in the stock market, right? which is for private companies, private impact ventures to be able to float and to list and to raise capital
without having to rely on banks or banksters, as I like to call them,
or in terms of loans or companies that are coming in and trying to take too much equity from the early stage
stage and take control of the company, that kind of stuff.
and take control of the company, that kind of stuff.
So these are the kind of things we're looking for.
I'm looking to build that STO exchange on Layer 1X because it has the subnet functionality.
This is what Avalanche uses as well.
So Avalanche has a lot of enterprise blockchain solutions because it allows for public, private,
permissioned and permissionless chains.
So the reason why you do a subnet is that you can customize it.
You can customize in terms of regulations, access, what the gas is,
the consensus mechanism, and so on.
So I want to use Layer 1X for that to build the decentralized investment fund,
which would be a Series A STO platform once these projects,
once our university projects get their first 2 million in seed funding.
So that's what we're looking forward to.
Yeah, and I think it's important to call out how awesome of an opportunity it is
to get in at the very ground level.
I mean, obviously, a lot of us in the space already know because, you know,
getting into meme coins and things like that at the very, very earliest stage is key to being able to get a profit from it majority of the times,
profit from it majority of the times, especially with meme coins. But when you're able to invest
especially with meme coins.
in actual projects, you want to get in as early as possible so that you can kind of ride that
storm. I mean, that's why a lot of us invested in L1X and things like that from the very get-go.
I see a lot of OGs down in the space. Shout out to you guys for the love and support over the years
as we continue to keep growing this.
And I think we're definitely headed down a good direction.
But one of the questions that always comes up,
and so I'm just going to throw you a little bit of a curveball here.
You know, it's great. I'm just going to throw you a little bit of a curveball here. Hopefully you're ready.
You know, it's great. Anybody can build a great infrastructure if they have the knowledge and the know-how how to do that. And I'm a firm believer that I feel like you guys definitely
have the knowledge and know how to do it. But obviously, if you build it, a lot of times projects won't come. So how are you going to continuously have a flow of new projects coming into not only the Pyke G DAO, but also the G Starter launch pad?
I was trying to reply to someone on there
who's sent something on an X here.
So in terms of new deal flow,
we want this to really be
a university Web3 project-centric project, right?
Because to apply for Gstarter, your idea has to be disclosed on the Py platform,
and then it'll produce a disclosure and validation report to say how good your project,
how commercially viable your project is or isn't,
just like we do with our other university projects.
So we want this to be the university startup,
the university launchpad.
There's lots of web3 projects out there.
You know, universities do want to participate
in shitcoins or projects that produce real value, tokenization, that kind of stuff.
So because we already have an established network of universities on our side already, you know,
and we've spoken to Web3 departments and they are interested in participating in Gstarter because, you know, universities always look for a grant, right? So Gstarter would effectively be a grant.
It's just how we package it.
Say, hey, you can get a grant from Gstarter
for your Web3 university project,
So we want to actually get new entrants into the space,
particularly from the university side, because their research
is more cutting edge and they're more likely to meet a lot of the quality criteria.
So that's primarily where we're looking to get our deal flow from.
How about people within the Web3 space?
How will they be able to get their projects on the Gstarter?
We do have an interest registration form on gstarter.pipegdart.io.
You can register your interest as a project.
So we are taking in interest registrations.
I think we're looking for up to 40 projects.
So if you go to gstarter.thepipeg.io,
you can, if you're a Web3 project interested
in launching on Gstarter, yeah, go ahead.
Awesome. And when is the Gstarter going to be launched?
I think it's slated for this quarter.
No, I think we're going to be,
The developers are working on the backend architecture
and we're working on the UX, UI, CMS,
the frontend flow, that kind of stuff.
There's some integration.
So I think we're looking at Q3.
Although we haven't officially announced the date,
that's the target Q3 to Q4.
Perfect. That sounds great.
So you know if you ever need help with UI UX,
just as a non-person that's drank the Kool-Aid
I'm happy to lend my my skill set for
you guys as well so um yeah throw some feedback your way yeah i had a look at your linkedin profile
actually um so i we are we are in the market actually for a ux advisor to join our team of advisors.
So something we can discuss offline.
Perfect. Just to make sure that, you know,
the goodness is the crypto XRP cycles like,
You know, I think having an advisory
technology agnostic perspective and I think you need to come at UX from a technology agnostic perspective.
And I think, you know, rather than just,
hey, it has to be on this chain and has to be like this.
It's like, no, it doesn't matter what chain it's on.
So yeah, we can talk about that definitely.
Anybody that has listened to my rambles over the last three years
knows that I am definitely in search of that
perfect utopia experience for users where they can definitely log in and be able to experience
all of web3 not just by how we go from one website to the other uh there are some very interesting things in the work so
you can read between the lines on that one so uh definitely a little bit of alpha drop there
uh talking with kevin quite a bit of alpha to be dropped over the upcoming months as well
not only with the the pipe g guys uh but also with the quantum decks and a few other things that we've
got cooking as well so uh any any last alpha you want to drop uh for for those tuning in
live on the quantum decks oh that's a good one you know uh so if you look on the uh
You know, so if you look on the Jumbotron,
I've already put the link where you can ape in.
It's still super early, guys,
and we're getting more liquidity from the loan protocol as well.
So no financial advice, no investment advice to you in research.
Great investments often lose money,
only for educational purposes of course
token I'm not going to get into pricing
you know solving all kinds
of impact problems because for you to be a member,000 GDAOs solving all kinds of impact problems,
because for you to be a member of the GDAO protocol,
the GDAO ecosystem, you need to have 10 GDAO tokens,
and we're coming up, and that'll be able to mint you
That's coming soon, by the way, obviously native on L1X.
So if we have 4,000 GDALs across the world,
with all those holders solving different problems,
I think that has a lot of long-term potential.
Don't just make a product or make a chain
or make a token to solve one problem.
And our pre-sale is also live as well.
I've also put that in the Jumbotron list,
the latest one I've put here.
So that allows you to get a discount on the live GDAO token.
And what happens there is you get your pre-sale tokens.
They are then sold on the L1X release pool based on token performance,
buy-sell pressure, liquidity, trading volume, price,
And then to then claim your discount, so it'll auto-sell it for you based on the metrics
You get your stablecoin or whatever it is, and then you can then use that to then buy
real GDAO token on the DEX.
And that's how you essentially monetize your discount, right?
So SGDAO tokens are also available.
We'll just send your stablecoin to the wallet address
that we have on there, and you'll get GDAO tokens.
That's all in the Jabotron for you.
I love it, especially around the research portion of it. As many of you guys are aware, I've relaunched my Next Moon project and we're actually taking it to the next level.
been talking with the pipe g dow of uh tentatively how we can uh start kind of working together on a
few few things so more to come on that uh around research and education uh which will be fantastic
for crypto enthusiasts across the web 3 so uh excited uh for what's to come.
Definitely, definitely give the PypeG guys a follow if you haven't already.
They are definitely cooking up some good stuff over there on their platform.
So with that being said, thanks, everybody, for tuning in.
We really appreciate your guys' love and support.
Oh, if you want to hear projects pitching,
definitely reach out tomorrow at 8 a.m.
Eastern Standard Time for the 10-Minute Pitch Show.
If you've never listened in on a 10-Minute Pitch Show,
basically, we bring projects to you. All you got to do is just show up and listen. It's the classic take on the old speed dating. Each project gets 10 uninterrupted
minutes to basically shill their project to you, making you guys the sharks. And you get it all without the KOL bias narratives that we've grown to basically despise over the last few years.
But it's been a lot of fun. I think there will be some great synergy for us to help drive innovation and projects to the GDAO or the Gstarter platform as well.
So thanks again, everybody.
Pipe GDAO, thank you so much for allowing us to do an exclusive interview and kind of last minute there.
But appreciate your candidness.
And I'm pretty sure I think we've got a good couple of spaces,
you and I, coming up throughout the week.
So I will see you then, okay?
Yes, thank you for joining me.
Sorry, thank you for letting me see me.
What the fuck am I talking about? Thank you for letting me join sorry thank you for excuse me thank you what the am i talking about
thank you for letting me join it's been uh it's been great i could see some familiar faces as well
and yeah get your heat out tokens and get in the pre-sale 100 and biscuit i'm eyeing you i'm still
waiting for that one-on-one uh so let's get this thing going. All right. Thanks, everybody, for tuning in. We will catch you later.
Have a great rest of your week, and we'll catch you later.