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Exposing COVID Atrocities: Murder, Misdiagnosis, and Medical Democide with Jacqui Deevoy
Recorded: Feb. 3, 2026 Duration: 2:06:01Space Recording
Short Summary
In a recent discussion, key trends emerged surrounding the socio-economic implications of immigration, healthcare policies, and the ethical considerations of organ donation and assisted suicide. Participants highlighted the need for accountability in healthcare systems, the impact of immigration on labor rights, and the ongoing scrutiny of financial institutions in shaping national policies.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. you
drive your bloody demented because the worst thing is you advertise the space and you hand out a link and then the link is broken happens every. I don't know how it's all bloody annoying.
And Patricia's going to have to actually send the girl.
Let me see if I stick this up into the top.
She's going to have to send her the new link
and she probably put it on her other social media,
you know, so it's just an absolute joke.
Yeah, I put one up there into the top bubble, guys.
We just give that one a retweet and if you've
retweeted the other one just un retweet it if you know you can hit the little arrows or whatever
i'm sorry for an irony but drive you bloody cracked um yeah and i want to put it into the
community group there as well
yeah we'll get it done anyway it's just that we have the bottom bubble it does it's important
to have it and then if that's not working and god knows where else it's working thanks al yeah
thumbs up good man yeah good stuff right we're back to each other in a couple of minutes there
just give it a retweet out let's put a comment in the bottom there. We're trying for a little bit. Thank you. I just see that they're trending on X. It's hilarious that Dennis O'Brien, one of the
richest men in Ireland, he controlled most of the media. He's like, oh, you know, tackling racism
is the biggest problem in Ireland
that we need to focus on.
And then you'll have all the lefties
and the communists and the people for profits
and the social democrats, you know,
calling us names, calling us racist,
you know, all this type of stuff.
They're literally doing the dirty work
of the richest people in the country.
Dennis O'Brien does not give a shit about racism right now.
So what he worries about is filling the place up with migrants to suppress the wages in the country. Dennis O'Brien does not give a shit about racism or anything else. What he worries about is filling the place up with migrants to suppress the wages in the economy.
And, you know, but you're like, our adversaries, they're just brained. There's something wrong
with their brains. Like, you know what I mean? They can't hold two thoughts at once. They can't
chew gum and walk at the same time. Do you know what I mean? If you really are for workers,
you really are for working class people, how can you support mass unrestricted immigration of people that have no skills you're
literally obviously junior short business would tell you that they're going to suppress the
wages in the economy all of the irish patriots uh connolly all of them were against uh unrestricted
mass immigration all the unions in america were vehemently against mass immigration into the us
back in the day it's it's pure Well, obviously, if you flood the place with
low skilled workers, you're going to suppress the wages. How are you going to negotiate
higher wages and higher benefits for your workers when you have someone who's going
to come in and do the job for nothing? Or are you going to do it? You don't have to give
me a pension or I don't want health care. you know what I mean like it's so this is basic stuff anyone who was involved in unions anyone
who's involved in you know proper socialist policy back in the day like James Connolly and whatever
else they were vehemently against uh mass immigration and you've got uh that that O'Brien
fella coming out one of the richest men in the country oh yeah we have to tackle racism well
terrified you might
take the bread and butter off his table terrified he mightn't be able to exploit it won't be slave
labor for him he won't be able to get his uh cheap workers in if we if we were to close the borders
and you'll still have people for profit and lefties calling the likes of all of us oh you're racist
oh you're this oh you're you're uh what's the these phobias they all call us you know what i
mean fucking ridiculous dennis o'brien that's his name yeah just give the space to retweet there guys the one in the top
and we'll try and fill it back up sorry about that with the
the bubble while some work and we just got to do what we got to do
good woman esmeralda thank you for that put the comment underneath
just handy when you put the comments in lads it just drives a bit of engagement to the space, that's all.
Thanks a million.
I'm going to swap the link over on Telegram.
Back with you in a minute. good stuff good stuff so hard to fill these back up when you close one down it was half
right to say keep the other one open but really i wanted to have to open it on this channel
and uh some topics on this people are afraid to you know they don't want to be associated
with oh look they're talking about jewish supremacy oh my god it might be called an
anti-semite even though that's not what the topic was but anyway um what am i trying to do here yeah i want to just share this out with my account
it is hilarious though the epstein thing that like all the biggest boogeymen you know the far-right the Nazis the white supremacists none of them
in the Epstein files oh no no no the boogeymen the real monsters are at
something completely different see you know share by a post
that a lord is it Mandelson or whatever in the UK?
He should be gone to jail.
Did you see the one that came out with him on it?
Let me see.
It's not going to do that for me.
See the one that came out with him
that he was given insider information
about the bailout of Europe,
fighting 400 billion or 500 billion or whatever,
a day before it became public knowledge
he had uh he had tipped off Epstein like that's like straight to jail do not pass
go do not collect 200 quid that's where he should be going let's see now uh yeah democide jackie devoy yeah perfect um the other one i did see as well which was interesting
i didn't actually put a post up on it there's a file in the epstein file if you search for ireland
um there's a pdf from jp morgan from 2018 and in it it has ireland the road to surf them
they're literally taking the piss out of us because we bailed out the whole of Europe.
And they're basically said Ireland is now on the road to surf them.
They have all the diagrams of the bailout, basically saying that like now we were under their thumb or under control.
Ireland, the road to surf them for Ireland.
PDF from JP Morgan, financiers.
Obviously, I've been emailed to Epstein or whatever else.
Like they absolutely took the piss out of us.
And it turned out with the bailout as well the Greeks trying to get Patricia up here now
turned out that the Greeks it wasn't actually as big a problem in Greece that's what they all let
on it was actually they wanted to funnel that money in true Greece to protect the banks in
Germany and France the whole thing was a big an absolute con job from start to finish but it was
very revealing
that it had ireland the road to surf them which is a book by hayek it's actually an interesting book
um i often quoted here actually quoted last week but um yeah they just had that to heading over the
the bailout or the banks the road to surf them like i'll see if i can pull it up for you there
after and have a look at but that's what you're dealing with
i don't know dylan about bringing up because we are just keeping it tight until our guest comes See if I can pull it up for you there after and have a look at it. But that's what you're dealing with.
I don't know, Dylan, about bringing up because we are just keeping it tight until our guest comes on.
We've only got 15 minutes.
We'll discuss this after.
You got that invite there, Patricia.
Just trying to get you up.
And just if you're only joining there, just give the space to retweet, guys.
Don't open the top bubble if you can.
Yeah, I got the link there all right good stuff i did um i swapped out the link on the poster
on the telegram channel this is a new link patricia because the other one wasn't working
the bubble wasn't working
yeah i sent her i sent her it i figured it would be a new one good, good stuff.
Yeah, it should be very interesting now, her takes on the organ donation as well.
Remember last year, there was an opt-out clause given to people.
Otherwise, everybody was linked in to organ donation,
whether you wanted it or not.
So it'd be interesting to hear Jackie's thoughts on that.
I wonder if that'd be something, Mark,
looking through the Epstein files on these organs,
because there's huge money in it.
And that is why that's been done here in Ireland.
If you look at a lot of the blood transfusions in Ireland, they always come out, oh, we need more blood.
We have to have a drive.
There's not enough people giving blood.
And then when you look at it, we're one of the biggest exporters of blood in the world.
Our blood and our plasma has been sold into Israel, been sold into, I think Israel is one of the biggest buyers, and other countries.
So they're telling us, oh, we don't have enough blood and we owe this stuff give your blood and then to have it turned into a business into an international uh blood business
mental stuff so you can imagine then with the organ transplants this is the exact same thing
you don't know what's going on there and the other thing is well in canada where they have this
euthanasia now you've got you know handicapped people uh depressed people uh you know people who had failed transgender surgeries
homeless people and they're doing the organs over there so you know what I mean it's a big business
and as well the women's placenta as well that's huge that's a huge business as well that's not
really talked about either they probably eat them or something i know it's horrific and disgusting
but like the more you see and the more you learn you probably munch on it or something or do you
know what i mean you just don't know what these animals are doing like it your worst nightmare is cutting like contemplate
what's about these freaks could be doing to people
well no the placenta gets sold for something like 50, 60,000 each and they're sold to cosmetic companies and all of these laboratories as well, you know.
So it's big business, all human parts.
Yeah, there's something with the placenta, isn't it? The stem cells in the placenta
for some kind of medical treatments. God knows what they're doing with them though,
to be honest with you.
How are you Colleen? How are things?
Did we get her up?
Oh, I don't see her there.
I thought she was on.
Yeah, so look at the one thing of note is, you know, we're six years in now and nobody has been held accountable.
Not one doctor, not one politician, you know, none of these organizations.
Nobody has been held accountable.
Even Fauci, they tried to make him accountable
and he still isn't accountable
you know
massive cover up
massive cover up, look at the excess debts
I did actually, Daryl Flaherty texted me there yesterday
they're doing a march in Dublin or something
for the excess debts
I put on the Telegram channel
I don't know who's going, I don't know who's organising
but it's just to highlight that 25,000 or 30,000 excess deaths since
the rollout with those jabs and there's been no investigation um but look there was a massive
cover-up there Patricia that everyone's so brainwashed people were taking these vaccines
and they were falling ill within days or their mother had died and they would swear it was
absolutely everything else bar the vaccine like
that carry on we've talked about we're on the telegram channel we talked about every day and
it was just insane so i would say there was a huge amounts of deaths around that time that just were
completely you know put down for anything else people just would not admit they had them so
brainwashed like people like us were the enemy we were we had to go to the gulag uh we know we should be locked out of society and they would make every excuse you know
this mental gymnastics of what it was and there was an awful lot of deaths around that rollout
like back at that time and all of them would have never even been their family were so convinced that
it couldn't be the vaccine that people went into their graves with no proper investigations done or
whatever else like you know what i mean it's you only the tip of the iceberg of what went on here,
and we'll never know the truth, to be honest.
Well, that's it.
That's it, you know.
The thing is, you know, if they are planning something this year or next year,
I think there's going to be more people that will be pushing back,
including those that fell for it the last time.
I think there'll be huge pushback on them as well, you know.
So that's only going to be, you know, a good thing.
You know, I think humanity is waking up now en masse.
So that's good.
We have more strength now
but we have to push forward
we have to
make these people accountable
you know unfortunately
I better stop now
100%
it's like Stockholm Syndrome
we talked about this last week where like a lot of irish
people like they really do look up to like doctors and they kind of have this uh inferiority complex
like where these doctors like they're he's a doctor that he knows what he's talking about he
was in college for seven years he's a learned man and you know they worship them and it just it was
so hard for them to um to come to terms with that they were lied to or that
there could be something wrong or that you know that they weren't given the right information like
it's bizarre it is a form of stockholm syndrome i know a lad who took the astrazeneca and he nearly
died took two of them weight fell off from his diabetes flipped he went from not being able to
get his blood sugars down that he couldn't then he couldn couldn't get them up. He had, he had a transplant back in the day and he has to take immunosuppressant
tablets and had to reduce his dose because it damaged his immune system.
And, you know, he would, to this day, he, you know, he, it still had,
the penny still hasn't dropped what was done to him.
And it's the same with everyone else who took them.
Like AstraZeneca were removed off of the market.
So, you know, the hundred thousand people who took them were taking something
that could have killed them. And you talk to those people today the penny hasn't dropped it's like
there's something wrong with their brains you realize that they coerced half the place to
taking them they told you it was safe and effective they gave you them and then they told you that
there was a problem and they stopped them and they took them away like half of the vaccines
the johnson johnson was pulled astrazeneca was pulled. And the only reason that Pfizer and Moderna
haven't been pulled is because of the vested interest.
They're a huge money spinner.
Pfizer have plants all over Ireland.
You know, what do you call them?
The Pfizer CEO,
that Jewish fricking Israeli fella.
Borel, is it?
Or not?
But anyway, they're all in bed with the Trump
administration and with the Biden administration whatever else like this
is the money involved here is mind-bending and then they have the fear
that they want to use this technology for everything and if they say that
those COVID shots failed well then that means that it'll ruin their potential
profits for all their other products along those mRNA lines. People just don't understand what's going on. They're the only reason those other two weren't
pulled. It's just the money involved. The lobby. So, look, it was horrific what they've done to
people. I know loads of people who've died in suspicious circumstances, heart attacks, and all.
A lot of people who've had cancer suspiciously. My aunt took the two Pfizer's and she got diabetes.
And my aunt is one that eats really clean eats
really well never smoked doesn't drink always walking you know to keep her weight down she'll
always be doing some kind of fitness walking the roads or you know something like that like
lives a really clean life and just got the got diabetes just out of blue like that after taking
the tooth so you know and she's no she's not fat or anything like that there's absolutely no reason
as i said very healthy clean living so look more and more people been damaged by it sure my mom
i'd never forget the way she went like she went out got the vaccine and within 24 hours she had um
like organ failure completely uh throughout the day she'd been out in the garden the day before
and she came in and she just she didn't feel well and i said go down to bed and when she
got up the next morning she was supposed to bring Ben to a birthday party and I said you're not driving
you know and somebody just doesn't look right like and then just throughout the day she was just
fading you know she was just gone and about eight o'clock then I called an ambulance and she threw
massive heart attacks before she got to the emergency room when she was dead and they said to
my brother if we bring her back she's not going to have any brain function.
Since we were small, I remember my mom saying, oh God, don't you ever leave me like that.
Don't you ever do that to me?
Like, hang on, after please.
So there is, there's an awful lot.
My son, for example, idolized my mother.
There's so much pain caused in families when people are ripped out of their lives like that.
There's no explanation for it.
And it's just like Gavin is saying saying so many young people around the place
have cancer and they're they're they're young small children and how do you ever explain
something like that your guest is there Gavin I'll shut up there Welcome, welcome Jackie. We're just going to give you a mic there so that you'll be
able to speak to us and we're delighted to have you on this evening.
Yeah, welcome to the space and just for people just joining please give the space
a retweet there guys and we're trying to fill it up there more good to have you there Jackie.
Yeah if you just release your mind I just realized it turned itself off somehow.
Yeah we're absolutely delighted to have you have you on for a conversation tonight, Jackie. It's going to be a difficult conversation for some,
but the thing is, truth has to be spoken and people need to understand the nefarious aspect
of our healthcare system, our media and our government and our police forces. It's an absolute tyrannical authoritarian society that we're living in.
Who would have thought in 2026 we'd be living this?
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I've not personally, I don't think, been directly affected by it,
but there's a lot of stuff
going on in the background that will affect us at some point i'm sure
yeah um jackie what i'm going what i'm going to do is i'm just going to give a brief
a brief um introduction um because there may be some listeners that are listening tonight that might be unaware of your work.
And once I give the bio, I hope I give you justice and we'll start the conversation then, okay?
Yeah, that's fine. That's good. Thank you.
Good evening, everyone, and welcome to the special Off Grid Ireland X-Space.
Tonight's conversation is going to be uncomfortable for some listeners.
We're not going to sanitise or lessen the gravity of what we're
discussing, the rituals, the policies, the protocols
and authorities that our healthcare systems here in Ireland
and the UK and around the world imposed en masse
on the people from 2019 onwards during the so-called
pandemic era. For anyone who's spoken up, highlighted concerns or stood against the tide
during this age of what many people call treason or authoritarian overreach. That was a true act of bravery. With that in mind, we're honoured to
welcome a guest who has fiercely pursued these uncomfortable truths, investigative journalist,
author, documentary filmmaker and relentless truth seeker, Jackie Devoy. Jackie has been a
full-time freelance journalist for over four decades.
She started in the 80s writing for teen magazines, didn't progress to major women's publications
worldwide and contributed to some of Britain's biggest national newspapers including the Daily
Mail, the Mirror, the Express and the Telegraph. She's worked as an editor and a features editor but has now
but now values the independence of freelancing. In recent years deeply disillusioned with mainstream
media Jackie turned to independent journalism and hard-hitting investigations. Since 21 she's
emerged as one of the most prominent voices exposing what she described as involuntary euthanasia and end-of-life protocol abuses within the UK NHS care homes, brought forward chilling testimonies brought about by the use of drugs like midazolam and morphine.
And, yeah, sorry.
And Jackie turned, yeah.
Oh, sorry.
I've just lost my cross.
Yeah, basically, her groundbreaking 2021 documentary,
A Good Death, brought forward children testimonies
about the use of drugs like midazolam and morphine
in the end-of-life care,
raising profound questions around consent,
guidelines such as NG163,
DNR orders and patterns of excess deaths in care settings.
She followed this with her 24-film Playing God, which delved deeper into allegations of medical democide in the UK.
Most recently, Jackie has released her powerful book, Murder by the State, a compilation of raw first-hand accounts from grieving relatives and family members detailing what they believe were preventable, non-consensual deaths under these protocols. Published at the turn of 26, it is a heartbreaking expose arguing that these aren't
isolated tragedies or mere pandemic complications, but
part of a systematic issue that cries out for accountability.
Jackie has navigated censorship risks, pushback
and the demands of independent work, yet she continues to
amplify these stories through her sub-stack
and her unwavering commitment to truth.
We are privileged to have her here with us tonight
on Off Grid Ireland Mega Area to share her journey,
unpack the evidence she's uncovered,
and field our questions we may have for her
and explore why this matters, not just in the UK, but here in Ireland and globally,
where people value life, informed consent and transparency in healthcare.
Please join me in giving Jackie a heartfelt welcome to our space this evening.
Hi there. That was a very grand introduction. Thank you for that.
I apologise. No thank you for that. I apologise.
No, I like that.
I messed up in the middle.
I usually panic when I go on a bit.
I start talking to myself, Jesus, I was important to give people a complete background of the bravery, you know, of going against the system, going against your own colleagues, you know, in standing in truth and bringing the information to people.
And at the end of the day, Jackie, it's people like you that we may not have gotten information, you know.
It's people like you that we may not have gotten information, you know, so by you bringing it to us, it has informed an awful lot of people.
And the thing is, once you have truth, you can make your own decisions from that point on.
So thank you for being brave and standing up to the tyranny that we're going through.
I always think it's a bit strange when people say that I'm brave
because I don't see it as any kind of bravery.
It's just the natural, normal thing that I believe most people would do
if they're in a position to do so.
Because to me, it's just natural to fight for the underdog
and to stand up for what's right and to impart information that you find
and share it with people who might benefit from it.
It's just something that comes naturally to me.
I've always been interested in human interest stories,
things like chatting to people, hearing their stories
and what they've been through.
Nearly every person has got a story.
Nearly everyone I speak to has been through. And nearly every person has got a story. And, you know, nearly everyone I speak to
has been through a lot, you know,
especially over the last five or six years,
probably more than they might have had otherwise
because of what happened.
But I find it even quite hard to say, you know,
the pandemic or COVID,
because to me, all that was such a nonsense um i
refer to it as that time when all the nonsense was going on you know there's no to me there wasn't a
pandemic there wasn't um a killer virus so you know i know that's a bit of a controversial view
but everything i knew before everything i saw at the time and everything I've seen now, I haven't changed my stance on anything at any point.
So it's always remained the same since before it started to the present day.
that kind of, you know, stood out to you during maybe the 2019, 2020,
that kind of, you know, said, oh, hang on here a second, something's going on here.
Like, was there any specific moment that kind of stood out for you
that kind of set you on this journey?
Well, yeah.
I mean, I always knew that something like this would
eventually come about. So I suppose when Event 19, Event, sorry, 201 happened in October 2019,
I watched that and thought, oh, here we go. You know, that there was the John Hopkins
tabletop exercise, shall we say, that basically spelled out what they were about to do.
It was like a blueprint almost. And then when it actually started a few months later,
I was quite surprised it was happening so soon. I thought they'd give us a couple of years or
something. But once it started, I thought, oh, oh wow it's actually happening now um so I wasn't surprised and and every single thing that happened from that point
from people falling flat on their faces or more flat on the palms of their hands in Wuhan um which
I just found comical because I knew what was going on and it was ridiculous to watch right through to people
banging their pots and pans on doorsteps and following all the most ridiculous I mean the
kind of restrictions and that were put upon us well not on me but on that they tried to
to put upon people and which many people did comply with I was just shaking my head in disbelief every day, just thinking,
this is just mad that everyone is following these crazy instructions. And I just had visions of,
you know, Matt Hancock and Chris Whitty and all the other members of Parliament just sitting
around in absolute hysterics, you know, thinking, what can we make them do next? I know, let's make them wear masks. I know,
let's make them stand six feet apart, just these random, stupid ideas, which was all based on
nothing, on a nonsense. But we know why they were doing all this. It wasn't about health,
it wasn't about a virus. It was about bringing in, you know, a whole new system, a whole
about a virus. It was about bringing in, you know, a whole new system, a whole tear down the economy,
start it up again. It was all about bringing in digital ID, bringing in more surveillance of
civilians and citizens. And it was all dressed up as this crazy virus going around that was
going to kill everyone. But I was so confident, you know,
that it was nonsense that I didn't pay attention to any rule at all, wherever I could ignore it,
I would. And it was quite an interesting time. It was just a pain to have all those people around
following the rules and complying. And, and just, it was just making life a bit kind of a pain you know having to explain
things to people all the time but um some of it was fun you know it was great driving around the
empty streets I loved that in early 2020 driving around I could get from one side of London to the
other in half an hour you know whereas it'd normally take me three or four hours um yeah it was fine but um yeah i think
but it was just um so i was actually surprised i usually have great faith in the man in the street
but that made me realize they weren't as bright as as i thought they were sadly and they got
terrified by all the stuff that was being told to them by a man in a shiny suit on the TV, you know, and in the papers.
I don't have a TV. If nobody had a TV, nobody would have noticed a pandemic because there wasn't one.
It was just all media hype pushed by the government.
And obviously I was working for the media, so it was all a bit disappointing that they were doing this.
Yeah, it was a bit awful actually to realise they're not actually caring about the truth
and they're not caring about reassuring the public.
They're about pushing the fear and frightening people all because they've been told to do so that was very clear because
the first couple of stories i pitched to them back in march 2020 um they rejected the first
one was i'd heard that here in the uk the the coronavirus as it was called back then had been
downgraded to a um not a high consequence infectious disease, which meant it's nothing to worry about.
And that was on the government website. Of course, it wasn't on the news. It wasn't on the TV.
It wasn't in the papers. So most people didn't get to hear about that.
So I wrote an article about that, sent it to several papers and they weren't interested in running it.
And I said, well, it's a good thing to run put it you know put it on the front page everyone will calm down you know
people won't be so scared or reassure people no they didn't want to reassure anyone and so it that
was very obvious from the start and then a few other stories I pitched you know about the truth
of the matter not about the propaganda they weren't interested in that either.
So it was pretty clear that I wasn't going to do too well during this period because
I wasn't prepared to join them on the propaganda spreading.
I wanted to write truthful articles and that wasn't something that they were entertaining
something that they were entertaining back then.
back then.
Yeah, Jackie, just kind of getting to kind of the start of that era, you had Tedros at the WHO,
there had been kind of sporadic news story articles coming out from China, as you said
earlier, kind of these mad videos of you know people dropping
on their hands in China like weird things happening in subway stations people just
randomly dropping and it was very it was very very sporadic but Ted Ross from the WHO he came
out and he basically told hospitals around the world, including governments, to ready the hospitals.
And that really was the moment that COVID started.
And I'm using COVID where most people on here are aware.
I'm just using it for the sake of the conversation.
That was kind of the moment, I feel, that you started seeing people dying from this so-called pandemic or illness, whatever.
So it really, really for me, the testament, the kind of starting point was the WHO saying, you better ready yourselves and then you had the media stepping in and then highlighting
oh a person died in in france and and then obviously italy came to the play then for us over
this side of the world you had like absolute like propaganda of all these elderly people initially and them all lined up in coffins and all of this
kind of crazy stuff and at the same time here in Ireland and in the UK you know you had a rugby
match a big rugby match kind of taking place as well I think it was between Ireland initially
you had the Cheltenham you had the Cheltenham racing festival over over obviously in Cheltenham, you had the Cheltenham Racing Festival over obviously in Cheltenham, which
attracted huge amounts
of people from both
Ireland and England celebrating the
racing over there. So you had
all of those people mixing together
and then all of a sudden
people
then were just
dropping and
it kind of ramped up everything you know around
those two around those two um events and also another thing that stepped onto the table as well
it's really weird well i suppose they had certain elements that they lined up in order to indoctrinate the people. They had the health information coming out from the WHO.
Then you had the media step into the place.
But also you had the police force as well, Operation Tala.
Would you be able to tell the listeners here,
because I'm not sure a lot of people are aware of what Operation Tala was.
Well, this is something that really only just came out December last year.
Even though a lot of us suspected there was something untoward going on.
And there had been a video out there where a lady called Moira Brown in Scotland was talking to the Scottish police about reporting vaccine injuries and vaccine deaths.
I say vaccines lightly because we know that they're not vaccines,
but let's call them that just for the sake of simplicity.
But yeah, and she's actually asking, you know,
why are they not investigating these reports?
And this particular officer says to her that they've been told not to basically
and then it's all come out now that there was an operation a police operation called operation
Tala in the UK which actually was broken down into two sections so the police were told not
to investigate any reports of vaccine injury or injuries or deaths. And also another section told them not to investigate any reports
of hospital or care home deaths under NG163,
which was the protocol that was brought in on April the 3rd, 2020,
which was described as a COVID protocol.
It was actually identical to the Liverpool Care Pathway,
which had been abolished in 2014 for being inhumane and barbaric.
And it was pretty identical to that.
It involved the withdrawal of food and fluids.
It involved the withdrawal of essential medications
and the administration of end-of-life drugs,
which consisted of a
benzodiazepine and an opioid, and mostly that would have been midazolam and morphine. Now,
these are two drugs that should never be used together, ever. If you look at the British
National Formulary, it's listed there that those two drugs should not be used together,
should not be used concomitantly, because they depress respiration. So the first question is,
once you look into that protocol, why were they using a protocol for an alleged respiratory
issue? Why would they use a protocol that depresses respiration? It makes no sense whatsoever.
So this was introduced by Matt Hancock. And he put it in front of a panel of professors and
doctors, two professors, one of them, Dr. Sam Armadzi, who's one of the most well-known palliative
care specialists in the world,
he was the main author of this article that they wrote for the British Medical Journal.
So Sam Amadzi, another professor and nine doctors, they all looked at this new protocol
and said, you can't use that because it will kill people.
And so Matt Hancock said, thank you very much, implemented it immediately.
And so Matt Hancock said, thank you very much, implemented it immediately.
Likewise, in America, we had Fauci advising all the hospitals to use remdesivir, which was a drug that had failed pretty much all of the medical trials and had killed animals, had killed people, had given people serious issues after taking it.
But they decided, maybe they had an overstock of it, I don't know, but they decided to use it
on so-called COVID patients. So anyone coming in to hospital or care homes at that time
with respiratory issues, so it could be a cold, it could be flu, it could be asthma, it could be pneumonia,
it could be COPD,
it could be a chest infection, whatever.
It could be a slight cough or a sore throat.
They'd say, yeah, COVID,
because obviously we knew the tests
that they were using, the PCR tests,
weren't fit for purpose.
So they'd diagnose people using these tests.
And then if they came up positive,
which most of them would,
because those tests pick up any kind of any kind of debris in the body,
they were then many of them either put on ventilators, which killed a lot of people, so much so that they withdrew the use of ventilators by about,
I think it was about by January 21. I think they'd withdrawn them in the UK. And then
they put them on NG163 protocol, especially the elderly and the, let's say the most vulnerable
members of society were put on this terrible death pathway, as I called it. They liked,
I mean, the Liverpool Care pathway, that was a joke because it was actually a death pathway.
It killed many, many people. And this was a replica of that.
So many people died because of that.
And that's what the there was a peak in care home deaths in the UK in April 2020.
And they needed this peak. They needed to frighten people saying, look, all the elderly people are dying of COVID.
They weren't dying of COVID at all. They were being put on these pathways.
There were hardly any COVID deaths at home. This said a lot.
People weren't dropping dead in the street or in the supermarkets.
In fact, most supermarket workers, I haven't heard one death of a supermarket worker.
If there was an airborne killer virus, people would be dropping all over the place
in fact most people wouldn't go outside the door you know if they really believe that that was the
case and sadly some people did believe that but a lot of people were still going out and going you
know doing what they had to do but um yeah so slightly gone off on a tangent there but yes so
ng163 this was actually used in hospitals and care homes and I spoke to
a whistleblower doctor at the time who also told me that dnrs were being put on people now this
was something that really interested me in may 21 because my dad was in a care home at that point
he'd had a stroke in october 2019 and was in a care home from December. And then by May that year, he'd moved to a second care home, a new care home.
And one of the staff there rang me just to check all his details.
And she mentioned, you know, there was a DNR in place during the course of the conversation.
And I only vaguely kind of knew what one of those was.
You know, I remember I knew that they were put on terminally ill people sometimes in hospices,
but that's as much as I knew at that point.
So I said to her, well, why has he got one of those?
You know, he's not terminally ill.
And she said, oh, no, everyone's got them in care homes now.
And then I found out later from a whistleblower doctor that people were getting them on admission to hospital as well.
So she told me that anyone classed as elderly admission to hospital as well. So she told me
that anyone classed as elderly, which could be over 50, she told me at the time, people with
physical disabilities, people with mental health issues, children with autism. She gave me this
list of all these people who had DMRs put on them. And so, you know, we had to ask what's going on here.
So I actually wrote that up as an article for The Telegraph.
They said they'd take it.
And I wrote it up and then they went quiet for a while
and then they came back and said,
shoot, they weren't going to run it after all,
which didn't surprise me.
But I just thought, oh, this is how it's going to be now.
You know, obviously the guy who commissioned it
hadn't got the memo.
In fact, they weren't to be running stories like that so um so that was the start of um you know everything going a bit downhill from writing articles for the mainstream and especially
when I discovered this whole ng163 and people started coming to me with their stories. I started speaking out about it and started going on people's podcasts.
I started writing articles, you know, for Substack and for other independent alternative news outlets.
And so people were coming to me with their stories. And over a short period of time,
a lot of people had told me that their loved ones had been killed in care homes and hospitals they'd gone in with something very
minor and were dead within you know a matter of a day or two um which was quite interesting because
um all of these people were put on this NG163 pathway.
And the average time from having a syringe driver put on you,
that's the little machine that pumps the drugs into your body regularly over a period of time, from that point where it's fitted to death
is an average of 29 hours.
And all these stories were kind of fitting in
to everything that I'd found out about NG163 and people were clearly being taken into hospital
care homes and just never coming home because they were put on this pathway. The pathway... Yeah, sorry, Jackie.
Can I just kind of interject there?
Yeah, just kind of one point that kind of stuck out to me
in what you were saying there as well.
We had a guest on there last year, or actually it was the year before.
His name was Dr. Gerry Waters.
He's an irish doctor
yeah and one one one of the the true you know hero doctors that stood up to this he lost his
career as most doctors who did question the whole narrative and one thing that kind of stood out to
me on the conversation was um with doctors when doctors when they graduate or qualify as a doctor,
I always thought that they took the Hippocratic Oath, which basically for anyone that's not
aware is you do no harm to your patient. And it seems now the doctors qualifying that they basically, well, it's not really an oath,
but they undertake to do no acceptable harm in service to policy, which is a complete, you know,
taking the patient away that they're only going by, they're only basically,
they're not looking at the patient, they're looking at their guidelines. So that kind of
stepped into play as well. And what were your thoughts on, you know, the doctors and nurses
that were operating in these facilities
because as far as I'm aware, they would have an idea
of what a drug will do to a patient,
the different drugs that are for different illnesses
that a patient is experiencing.
So I'm sure with the protocols that you mentioned,
the midazolam, the morphine and all of this,
I'm sure they must have taken a step back and go,
hang on, I cannot give midazolam or remdem is there
to a patient that is experiencing chest issues chest issues do you know what i mean
so like what what was going on with them like you know like how come on mass the doctors you know
and senior nurses didn't say hang on here a second this is going against protocol in dealing with the patient with severe respiratory issues, even that aspect alone.
Yeah, well, firstly, anyone who did speak out got fired or silenced or both.
So we do know a number of people like Gerry Waters, as you mentioned, Dr. Anne McCloskey as well over there in Northern Ireland.
And any NHS worker that spoke out.
and any NHS worker that spoke out,
I mean, I'd find these people
and I'd talk to them
and they were fired.
I did an article,
this is back in 2020,
I did an article with one lady
who worked for the NHS
in an administrative capacity
and she was speaking out
and she got fired immediately
because she went to the papers
and I managed to get a story onto the mail online um with her and then another woman who was working
as a carer she spoke out she got fired I did a story with her for the mail online and then
but then they started not wanting stories from me anymore um i had a story someone who was um speaking out about
the empty hospitals she'd actually gone to the hospitals and was filming them and they were
completely like like the mary celeste you know they were they were like ghost hospitals there
was no one there because um people were told not to go to hospitals unless it was um really really
um a matter of life or death.
And then, you know, as I said, when a lot of them did go in,
they didn't come out again because they were put on the ventilators or what have you.
But any, as we know, just people were, a lot of people were too scared to go.
They were being told not to go.
They weren't having treatments that they might have needed.
So the hospitals were all empty.
So that, you know, the papers were quite interested in that to start with,
but I think it's just some of the editors hadn't got the memo,
like I said, or they hadn't heard that they're not supposed to be running these stories.
Because it started out, I was getting a few stories in here and there,
and then it just kind of clamped down and they didn't want anything.
When I started talking about there were no excess deaths at the time,
fluid disappeared.
Where were all the extra burials and cremations?
Where are all the extra funerals?
There were less, if anything, from what I could work out.
So I was bringing all these stories to the mainstream national papers, and they weren't interested at all.
Then, of course, we had very early on the misattribution of deaths to COVID.
early on the misattribution of deaths to COVID, you know, because one of my dad's neighbours,
this was, he was in the care home, but I used to go and stay in his house, chat to the neighbours.
In fact, in that period, five people, five of his neighbours had gone into hospital and died.
It was awful. But this particular woman said her best friend's husband had died of cancer, but they'd put COVID on his death certificate.
And then we thought, oh, here, this is what they're doing.
OK, because they needed to boost, push up those numbers, push up those statistics anywhere they could.
So killing people in care homes, that's a scary number of deaths.
But there still wasn't excess deaths because you know as i said there
were there were no flu deaths recorded um well there were 311 flu deaths recorded in 2020 if i
remember rightly and um because and the reason that that was is because all flus were labeled
covid all of a sudden it was just it was just rebranded they were just like you know shifting
the numbers around and putting different labels on them.
So it looked like there was something going on when actually there wasn't.
And then, of course, they're adding the ventilator deaths, the death pathway deaths.
And suddenly it looked like something strange was happening.
But as I said earlier, if there was a killer airborne pathogen, people would be dropping it in the
streets and in their homes, surely.
I mean, I don't know anyone who died of COVID.
I know people who died of other things and had COVID put on their death certificates.
But no, I personally don't know anyone who died.
Also we had the symptoms kept changing.
You know, they were moving the goalposts all the time.
First, it was a temperature and a prolonged cough.
And I was thinking at the time I had that back in 2016.
I was thinking, oh, my God, am I patient zero?
You know, because I had I had a cough for six months back in 2016.
And and but the doctor said it was just a cough.
Maybe it's some kind of weird cough, but there's nothing we can do about it.
You'll get better at some point, which I did.
And it might be a bit controversial, but I don't believe in germ theory anyway.
I think that's a massive hoax and was brought in by Louis Passadour to, you know, help the pharmaceutical companies make
money. Because, you know, if you can keep everyone in a state of fear and make them believe you can
catch things off each other, then what a brilliant idea that was. But, you know, I believe in terrain
theory. I don't know if anyone has looked into that, any of the listeners here. But once you
start looking into it, it makes a lot more sense and it's about you know
when you have a cold or a flu type illness that's just your body having a natural detox you know
toxins build up in our body for all kinds of reasons and one of the main reasons that toxins
build up in your body is not just what you consume not just the food and the drink and the pharmaceutical
drugs that you might take or the alcohol or the cigarettes.
It's actually stress.
So if they can keep people in a permanent state of stress and anxiety and worry and fear,
they're going to keep people ill and more customers for the big pharmaceutical companies.
But if you look into terrain theory, it makes a lot of sense.
You detox.
I can't catch your bad health any more than i can catch
your good health it's like a thing personal to you of course there are contagious illnesses and
diseases but flus and colds and coughs aren't aren't contagious they're just your body expelling
toxins that's my theory and the more i look into it the more sense it makes so i've never been
scared of catching anything anyway you know there's also this really weird thing with um with the whole um germ theory
so that surrounds blame it's like people always blaming other people oh I think you know the man
down the road gave me a cold I think that guy sitting next to me on the train made me catch a cough. And it's a really mentally and emotionally unhealthy way to live that you're terrified
of going near someone in case you catch whatever symptoms they might have at the time.
And like I said earlier, if we could catch things that easily, the human race wouldn't
exist anymore. We'd all be dropping dead every five minutes, you know,
if things were that contagious.
So, yeah, so I wasn't afraid of anything like that.
You know, I actually said to a filmmaker friend at the time,
I would happily go into a COVID ward and give everyone a kiss and a hug.
And he said, oh, I'd like to film that.
I said, yeah, I don't think they'll let us in and do that.
But I was that confident that I would have quite happily done that it doesn't you know I don't have
any fear in that in that sense at all because I don't believe in the nonsense that they spin so
well just to just to kind of bring bring things up as regards that i actually worked in security um i'll bring you in gov on
after my point um i actually worked um jackie in security and um during during that time period
and we we had um we had no masks we had you know none none of that none of that stuff and um you
know you had all of these doctors in full hazman suits and, you know, any of the public that were coming with broken legs or broken arms, you know, and, you know, normal kind of stuff that people would present to a hospital with.
And, you know, all these people were all, you know, all suited and booted with their masks their gloves their their them plastic things
that they wore over their faces all that kind of nonsense and here here i was like walking around
like on oh you need to go to this area you need to go to that area and people were going well how
come you're not wearing it and i was like well i'm not sick i you know i don't you know and they're
like oh this is nonsense and like several times they, I thought, you know, and they're like, oh, this is nonsense.
And like several times they went up to the, you know, nurse in charge and go, that security woman is right beside me and she's not wearing the mask and she's not wearing protective clothing.
And they're like, oh, well, she's security and she's working.
She's outside.
So it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter about her.
But it was the total it was the total hypocrisy.
And in the meantime, at the same very hospital, there was eight ambulances lined up outside.
And on my lunch break, I was going, Jesus, you know, there's an awful lot of ambulances lined up.
And I just walked by them. And there was one guy standing up, one of the ambulance drivers.
And there was one guy standing up, one of the ambulance drivers, and he just goes, oh, I just said, Jesus, you're awful busy.
What's going on? What's up? Are you waiting to go in?
And he goes, no, we were just told to wait here.
And I was like, what?
And he goes, we were just told to wait here.
And he goes, oh, I shouldn't say that to you.
And I was like, well, I'm working in the hospital.
And he goes, no, he goes, it's really weird. We're just told to park you. And I was like, well, I'm working in the hospital. And he goes, no, he goes, it's really weird.
We're just told to park here.
And I was like, okay.
And at the same time, a local newspaper was coming along
photographing it.
So it made it look like, you know, that all these people were,
you know, urgently trying to get into the hospital
with all of these ambulances.
It was just total hypocrisy.
But my kind of point is, I think as well, Jackie,
it's something that really isn't spoken about too much
when these spaces are going on,
is the trauma that was affected on the people,
from the people that had loved ones that were in nursing homes that were in hospitals
you know that were very very ill and actually that passed passed away that passed away alone
the family weren't allowed in to see them you know you know even even elderly as you mentioned
in the care homes they weren't you know specifically you know um dying or anything
like that they were in the nursing homes even the family were not allowed you know in to see them
and it was an awful trauma on inflicted on them you know when i loved them that they were the last
stories probably that that i did write for the mainstream because my dad was in a care home
and i was writing about care home and I was
writing about the restrictions and how people were locked out you know with the lockdown nonsense and
window visits and then my dad was getting very depressed he'd been in a care home for 10 months
at this point and he was actually borderline suicidal he used to say to me I don't want to
live anymore what's the point if why can't you come in what's what's going on he had slight vascular dementia which would come and go but I think a
lot of that was down to the drugs he was being given to be honest because when I did finally get
him home and took him off some of them um they made it made a difference you know because he had
this I don't know he was on a ridiculous number of drugs all mixed up and they don't even know
you know the concomitant effects of these
drugs being used together half the time. They just give them the drugs and don't seem to care about,
you know, how they affect the person. And he was very foggy brained on some of the drugs. And then
as soon as he wasn't on certain drugs, he seemed fine again. But yeah, I just said to him,
I'm going to get you out then. And it was lockdown. And I said to some people, I'm going to get my dad out of the care home. They're like, well, how are you going to do that? They won't even let you in.
So I just phoned the care home owners and just said that I wanted them to have my dad ready the next day. And I was coming to pick him up and take him home. And if they didn't, I would sue them for violation of his and my human rights
and for false imprisonment. I just made it up. I didn't even know if that was a thing.
I had a vague idea. So I just thought they can't imprison my dad. He's saying to me,
he's saying to me, why am I in prison? What have I done? I said, I know it's ridiculous,
dad. I'm going to get you out. So I was amazed when I turned up the next day and they had him ready to go.
I was really, I thought I was going to get there and there'd be nothing that, you know, he wouldn't have been ready.
And I would have had to fight to get him out and they probably wouldn't let me.
But no, they were all outside waving him off and all smiles.
And I was really, really surprised.
And then it was actually quite funny because some of my
friends have their parents in care homes as well not every not everybody likes
that pet their parents that much some of them yeah some people don't get on with
their parents and some people some parents with Alzheimer's and dementia
can can be difficult and hard to look after and I remember one friend ringing
me stop now you've got your dad out.
Everyone's saying to me, you go and get your dad out.
She's like, I don't want to get my dad out.
He's fine where he is.
But that particular person also had problems like visiting.
Well, everyone had problems.
So I wrote a lot of stories about people who were having problems,
having ridiculous scenarios, trying to see their loved ones in care homes
and also I wrote about getting my dad out of the care home and then I wrote about trying to look
after him you know when he was back home which wasn't easy so they had all those stories they
found those quite interesting but then yeah that was about it. That would have been 2021 that I got him home.
No, it wasn't.
It was 2020.
It was September 2020 I got him home.
And, yeah, but at least he was home for a year before they came and got him.
But that's another whole story which I've also written about.
So, yeah, but at least I got him out and got him home and that was important to him at least. Although he did suffer from a very
strange thing after a few days. He started saying to me, do you think I should go back? And I said,
well, do you want to go back? And he said, really but he said what about the others are you going to get them out as well and I was like I don't think I can but you know um and
he said what no they're gonna they're gonna wander around they're gonna miss me you know
that he he had made friends with a lot well some of the carers there who were very very lovely but
um they weren't all all evil but um some of them were were lovely but yeah he had this kind of survivor's guilt
I realised quite quickly that's what it was you know he'd escaped but but no one else had and he
felt bad for them so yeah that that was that that was the story of getting my dad out which I
obviously wrote about and that was I did like a series of four articles for the Telegraph, which they published.
But then, yeah, they didn't really want any of my other stories, say more political sort of stories.
They liked the kind of personal stories that I was writing, but they didn't want me talking about any of the other stuff that kind of stuff. When I started talking about the NG163 death pathway, I actually took that to 28 papers originally and had two meetings, face-to-face meetings with news editors at the Daily Mail and the Mail on Sunday.
And they went away absolutely gobsmacked saying this is the biggest story ever
this is like headline news this is like you know front page stuff um and then over the the next few
weeks just kind of went quieter and quieter until they just weren't returning my calls anymore
um they'd obviously been told no exactly I just had a couple of questions on that one there because
I think it's very important.
Do you have a rough estimate of how many people do you think that they might have, like did
you have the same protocol in the UK where they were held like treatment protocols?
Like you know, like we had word out of the US that like Dr. Zelenko and stuff had used
hydroxychloroquine and zinc and stuff like that and he was having like really good success
rates.
Was it the same as in ireland where they withheld treatment like if you're diagnosed you have a pcr positive
you're just no medicine for you is that kind of what we've done and what on an estimate how many
people do you think might have been mistreated or that maybe died uh prematurely because there's
there's a guy called wilson sai who did a really good study and i wrote all about his study um
it was on it was a headline in the light paper about last February,
last March. And he estimated in the UK at least 60,000 that we kind of know of. But think of all
the people that we don't know of, all the people who don't have family. I mean, I think a lot of
those people were actually targeted as well. You know, if they know that you haven't got family,
if they know you haven't got loved ones coming to visit you or trying to get in and see you um then i think you
became more of uh more likely to be a victim of this because there was no one looking out for you
no one advocating for you no one there to protect or defend you and i don't know if you've ever been
in hospital yourself but you do feel pretty vulnerable in hospital and you're kind of
at their mercy in a lot of ways you know especially if you're in pain or if you've ever been in hospital yourself, but you do feel pretty vulnerable in hospital and you're kind of at their mercy in a lot of ways, you know, especially if you're in pain or if you're,
you know, elderly or disabled in any way, you feel terribly vulnerable, even as, you know,
I was in hospital with two broken ankles a couple of years ago and they could have done anything to
me. Honestly, I didn't know what was going on there, you know, because I was given morphine.
And in fact, at one point, I had a nurse come round to me
and she shook me.
I think I must have dozed off.
And she said, can you breathe, please?
And I was like, I'm breathing.
She was like, no, you're not.
And she shook me and said, take some deep breaths.
Come on, come on, come on.
And I was thinking, well, why is she making such a fuss?
So maybe, I don't know, maybe I stopped breathing.
I don't know.
But she caught me and got me breathing again.
But at the time, I just thought it was a bit funny because everything's quite funny when you're on lots of morphine, you know.
So they can pretty much do whatever they like with you.
And I was in hospital in October as well because I had really high blood pressure.
And I think that's due to the sort of work I've been doing over the last
five or six years because I'm pretty fit and healthy but I just have this mysterious high
blood pressure and it went kind of too high so I was hospitalized and in this hospital I went to
they were brilliant I mean I could not fault a single member of staff there the doctors the
nurses even the man who brought the tea
round every day, they were all brilliant. But one thing I noticed about this, they were all young,
which was quite interesting. I'd say under 40. There were no older doctors or nurses there.
And I did speak to one young doctor to ask him about these pathways and to ask,
And I did speak to one young doctor to ask him about these pathways and to ask if he's seen anything untoward.
And he said to me, no, he personally hadn't, but he had heard about it.
And then he went forward and whispered and said, it tends to be the older doctors that play God.
And I thought, that's strange. That's the name of my second film, Playing God.
I thought that was an interesting observation. I don't want to say all older doctors are like that.
Of course they're not. But, you know, say all older doctors are like that. Of course they're not.
But, you know, he was implying, well, he was actually saying out loud
that it was the older doctors that tended to be more arrogant, he said,
and make these life or death decisions.
Yeah.
On the ventilators, Jackie, do you know the push ventilators?
We spent millions, I think hundreds of millions in Ireland on them.
And they were turned out then after that they were actually could be doing more damage than good.
At what point did they pull that element of the protocol?
Because I think that was it.
It was a ventilator and midazolam.
If I remember rightly, I mean, they were using midazolam to get people onto the ventilators.
So that was used.
I think they were withdrawn in, I think it was January 21.
It was early 21 because they realised, I mean, everyone knows anyway, that if you go on a ventilator, you've only got 20 percent chance of survival because they're awful.
And you only use them in an absolute dire emergency situation.
You don't put someone who's got a chest infection on a ventilator, that's going to kill them because it blows out their lungs.
So, and this is what was happening.
And I think they realised that pretty quickly.
And they weren't, you know, same as in Ireland,
they weren't using half the machines that they bought,
hardly any of them.
They're all in storerooms covered in plastic,
but never used at all.
So a huge waste of money again,
all these contracts that were going on between the government
and all these manufacturers. So yeah, so that was quickly stopped. And then NG163,
it was kind of getting out and all on social media and stuff, people talking about this pathway
and using the name. But then in March 21, they changed the name of NG163 to NG191. I think trying to put people
off the trail a bit. But it was pretty much the same protocol. If you actually read the original
NG163 protocol, you'll see as well that there is a little section that says to doctors and nurses or anyone using that pathway
that you may notice that the patient's respiration
will slow down considerably when you're putting them on these drugs.
But it basically said, don't worry about it, just carry on.
And as you asked earlier, you know,
why didn't the doctors and nurses do anything?
They must have known.
They did know, but they're trained to follow protocol i mean and like like you were
saying earlier about the hippocratic oath like you're right it doesn't say do no harm it says
now make sure you follow protocol um and and and that's what what they do they follow and and as i
mentioned the ones who did complain and speak out, they were silenced or got rid of.
So it was, people realised pretty quickly, the staff,
that it was probably just a good idea to follow the protocol,
do as they were told, keep their head down
if they want to keep their job,
and just, you know, do as they're told, basically,
follow orders.
100%.
Did you look into any of the nudge?
Sorry, Jackie, but I had a couple of questions
before we let Patricia back in. I wanted to get through them as quick as possible. Did you look
into the nudge unit and the psychological type of operation that they launched on people? Did
you do any research into that? Because that seemed to be a big thing. And the other question I had
was, what's the other one I had? It was, yeah, the nudge unit and Risi Sunak's connection to
AstraZeneca or the profiteering, was that a thing?
And how many people in England potentially took AstraZeneca before it was pulled from the market?
Yeah, that was pulled out.
I think a lot of European countries stopped getting that out way before.
I think they stopped around March 21.
But we carried on here for quite a few months longer because I know people who died after having that.
There was one woman whose partner died.
She's in my second film.
It's the most horrendous story.
Her partner, a lovely young man in his 30s, you know, they were both in a rock band together.
They were a really, really cool couple, actually, all tattooed and amazing. But yeah, a few days after he had the jab in May
21, he died the most agonising, excruciating death. And she talks about it in that film,
in Playing God, that's on Rumble. It's also on UK Column and Children's Health Defence,
they platformed it for me as well. um yes yeah all that was going on with with
the AstraZeneca they realized pretty quickly that was a bad one and people were getting blood clots
and that was the main thing what you mentioned about the nudge unit and Rishi Sunak all I know
really is yes that that that was going on but I didn't look into that um especially deeply because
I was so embroiled with the whole murdered by the state thing.
Because at that point, I couldn't get the story in any papers.
So with Iconic Media, we decided to make the first documentary, A Good Death?
Which, as we know, is a euphemism for involuntary euthanasia or voluntary euthanasia
from the word, the Greek word euthanatos, which means a happy death.
But obviously it's not a nice death at all.
It's an absolutely hideous, awful death.
And we discovered quite early on that the same drugs
that they were giving to our elderly and vulnerable people
in hospitals and care homes were the same drugs that they use on death row to execute criminals in the US. In fact,
those drugs being used together, in certain states, they stopped using them because it was so
barbaric and it was taking people, you know, hours to die in some cases. And it was just an awful,
terrible, prolonged torture, which is against human
rights. So yet they were doing that. So the criminals were obviously, you know, not being
executed in that way anymore, because it was against the human rights. But the people that
were being killed in hospitals and care homes, the most vulnerable members of our society,
they weren't given that same privilege.
You know, they didn't have any rights and they suffered prolonged torture.
It's the most hideous, awful way to die.
People think, oh, you get an injection and then you go to sleep,
like when you take your very ill old dog to the vets, you know.
But it's not like that. You know, it's not that easy to kill someone.
In a few cases, yes, you get an injection and you're dead half an hour later, which is pretty much what happened to my dad.
But but but generally it takes hours.
My mum actually it was in the course of doing that first film that I realised that my mum had been involuntarily euthanised in a hospice.
She had cancer. But people think, oh, you know, she's in a hospice. She was obviously dying anyway.
She had cancer, you know. But yeah, maybe so. That doesn't give anyone the right to hasten her death
or end her life with a drug overdose, which is what I sat there and watched happen. And it only dawned on me,
that was 2009. So I had absolutely no idea what was happening. I remember thinking there was something a bit weird about it, how she died. But when she was only young, she was only 68.
And I sat there and watched her suffocate to death with this syringe driver strapped to her arm
and these drugs being pumped into her body. she survived for she fought quite hard actually for 45 hours and i had no i had no
idea what was going on took 45 hours to kill her but the average is 29 hours and my dad would just
have one injection they said it wasn't um midazlam but we don't we actually don't know it was
paramedics came to his house and injected him
um and he died within half an hour whatever it was he had a fatal reaction to it and and died so
i was gonna say some people are lucky enough to go quickly lucky enough but um but it can take days
um and one of the people in the book telling the story, her husband took 11 days, I think, because he was a big guy.
He was quite young. He was in his 50s. They tied him to the bed.
They used so many different drugs on him, you wouldn't believe.
But she didn't know any of this because she was locked out because of the lockdowns.
This is November 21. And she wasn't able to get in and see what's going on.
She was a nurse herself
but um it was only when she got the medical notes and this is how most people find out you get the
medical note weeks or months later and you read what's actually happened although some people
have got medical notes and they've all been redacted or there's huge you know chunks of it
missing or blacked out or so yeah the stories I've heard are unbelievable but I
I just picked 42 of them for the book Murdered by the State that's the book that came out
last month and that's you can get that via the link that I sent you.
Yeah I think just for people listening in the links to your work are all in the top bubble
there for anyone and people don't forget to give her a follow and do go through
the links and whatever else there and give her a bit of support. Yeah, no, thanks, Jackie,
for that. I just had one other question on it. I think, what was it? It was around the
midazolam thing thing we were looking at the
protocols here there was there isn't like a nearly a lethal dose of midazolans when those protocols
came down from the government had it been like the increased dosage and did they withhold like
medicine like the way they did in ireland because we had dr jared waters on and he said you know if
he had to follow the government protocols it's basically like let them deteriorate and then you
know then you know then
you go on a ventilator basically so you couldn't even just do your normal doctor's job and just
like let's try this let's try that let's see if you know they improve us that's kind of the same
scenario it was almost identical to the liverpool care pathway which was abolished for being barbaric
and inhumane so it was that consisted of the same ng163 withdrawal of food and withdrawal of fluids, withdrawal of essential medications and treatments and the administration of end of life drugs, midazolam and morphine.
And even if it looks like the person's having trouble breathing, carry on giving it to them.
And then obviously inevitably ended in death for a lot of people who had only gone in with.
inevitably ended in death for a lot of people who had only gone in with I'm just looking at the
cover of my book now because on the cover there are 40 photographs of the victims 40 separate
people and um one woman I'm looking at now she felt a bit dizzy one day she was cooking in her
kitchen felt a bit dizzy decided to go to A&E because she was having this dizzy spell. And 29 hours later, she was dead.
The stories are unbelievable.
I mean, all these people have become friends now, the relatives of these victims.
One friend of mine, Stephen, his mum was grieving the loss of her husband.
They'd been together over 50 years and he'd recently died.
And she just wasn't feeling
that great she went in the hospital um looking back Stephen said it's clear she was suffering
from from severe um grief you know she was like just feeling ill and non-specific sort of symptoms
and they killed her in hospital within a matter of days as well um well the stories are just like
tragic and and like I said they're not all elderly
people you know i'm just looking at this lady here louise's mum she was 55 um there are plenty
of people mia's sister was young as well um angela kennedy there she was 57 you know these
these people weren't like in their 90s i mean somewhere but most of them went in
to hospital i'm looking at this guy here as well he was only 48 but yeah they um they'd go into
hospital with something minor or just become ill apparently they you know the relatives were told
they're in a care home and the next thing they were gone. And no one was there, was able to, you know,
the relatives were cast out and stopped from visiting most of the time.
The weird thing is, you know, they wouldn't let you come and visit
when your loved one was well,
but as soon as they were allegedly at death's door, you could come in.
It's like, well, aren't you worried about you know the the covid's anymore
you know um it was some of the stories in the book well all of them are very harrowing i've
had people start the book and said i think i can only read one a week to be honest because they're
that it's just too much and even though i know the stories inside out and back to front um i still
cry when i read them because they're just, you know, every time it's just so heartbreaking.
What happened to these people?
And, you know, like I said at the start, everyone's got a story.
All these people are amazing in their own way, you know, and been through lots, done amazing things.
And then suddenly to have your life ended like that so cruelly and so suddenly is against every kind of um like you said there people in their 50s or
mid-50s like if if dr zelenko is to be believed and dr jared waters and which i think they are
you know these people with the proper treatment which still could very well probably be alive
today just on the other thing that you said there jackie about the terrain theory on your in your
opinion do you believe there was a sickness out there at the time or do you think it was all contrived
or and if you if you don't believe there was uh what do you think the long COVID is if it
or do you think it exists but I'm not trying to put you on the spot but do you think so um yes um
no I don't think there was a killer virus on the loose. I think flu, pneumonia and colds were expertly rebranded.
The fear of God was put into everyone via the media.
And obviously being scared and worried makes you ill.
Of course it does.
So a lot of people were, you know, they might have had a flu or something,
you know, I call it a detox, but like flu symptoms, cold symptoms.
If they had that in 2018, they think, oh got a cold they go to bed but now suddenly i could have the killer virus
and of course feeling like that feeling so anxious and worried that that is not not going to make you
feel better it's going to make you feel worse so and what was the other question there? Yeah, the long COVID they keep reporting about.
Oh, yes, the long COVID came about, obviously,
after the jab rollout, which is something we haven't spoken about.
I think you can guess my views on that.
And I think long COVID is jab injury.
But people say to me, oh, but I've got long COVID
and I haven't been jabbed.
And it's like, there's no such thing.
If you want to believe, if you want to label something that you've got, they used to call it post viral syndrome, didn't they? If you had a
flu or something, and then it kind of came and went for months or years afterwards, they used to call
it that. So maybe it's something along those lines, you know, it takes a while to get the toxins out
sometimes. So you might have about flu, and then get better. And then a couple of weeks later,
it comes back again, it's because it, you know the the process hasn't been completed or something's happened in that time that has made your
body toxic again I don't know I'm I'm still learning about all that stuff but it certainly
makes more sense to me than the stuff that we've been taught and brainwashed with up until now
yeah yeah no 100 everyone kind of has a different take on it but just on that just
interesting thing as well there was stuff that came out research recently that there was uh
pregnant mothers had been tested or whatever else for these uh what would you call them the spike or
whatever else and they were unjabbed and they'd found it in the placenta now i don't know people
could search it here on x or whatever so we don't know that shedding that they all call this
conspiracy theorist for that you know bandits for talking about is potentially real do you know
what i mean and i don't know pfizer actually admitted it in the documents that they wanted
to hide from us for 75 years in which the court said no you have to release the documents they
talk about shedding in those documents saying you know if you've once people have got the jabs they
need to keep away from people having chemo. They need to keep away from pregnant mothers.
If they don't want to, you know, share it onto partners, they should avoid sleeping with them. All the information is in those Pfizer documents, which are available for anyone to see.
But most people, most normal people, I say normal people, your average person who watches the BBC over here and likes to believe, you know, what they're told by the newspapers, they just say,
why are you still talking about COVID?
You know, that's from years ago.
We're not interested in that anymore.
They didn't realise it was one of the biggest crimes ever
to be perpetrated on humanity and everything that incorporated,
the number of suicides that must have occurred during those first few years
and also
the murders that have happened like I said in in the care homes and hospitals and hospices
um and the the the terrible stress that teenagers and young children have undergone those children
are not going to grow up to be normal children they're just not they've grown up in a state of
anxiety and even young children I know have got germ phobia and stuff now you know
it's absolutely terrible what they've done to young people. 100% and I often say everything
that's happened in the last five years you know be it mass immigration or maybe some of the wars
and stuff if these people had been taken to task and brought to justice five years ago
none of that would have happened like the people who like these criminals are still in positions of power that's the scary part you know what i mean so i just see patricia
wants to come back in there but thanks jackie and thanks for answering questions you're great thank
you yeah um we we we need to talk about um what what i consider is the elephant in the room here
especially in this country i'm sure it's the same over in your country as well jackie
um i'm not sure if patrick e waltz is still on the space but patrick has been a trojan a trojan
man documenting um all the deaths that have happened um um in our country excess deaths. One kind of thing I always kind of say is, you know, if you have 1% or 2%
excess deaths in a country, it's usually down to a war or it's usually down to a catastrophic event
that has happened within a country. But we're looking here now um i could be off on the figures
we're looking at something like 23 000 excess deaths you know over the years uh since that
um so-called pandemic uh and the rollout of the yeah since the vaccine rollout that yeah yeah
yeah exactly there were no excess deaths and that was one of the subjects that I was putting out because I was looking everywhere.
I was checking the figures every day on the Office of National Statistics and trying to see, you know, all these COVID deaths that were happening.
But there didn't seem to be any excess deaths.
And like I said earlier, where were all the funerals?
Were they building new graveyards? You know, where were all the funerals? Were they building new graveyards?
You know, where were all these bodies going?
I know they were encouraging cremation a lot because they needed to hide the evidence, you know,
and that sounds completely paranoid.
But as my mum used to say, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
But there was no...
Sorry, Jackie.
I was kind of referring to the aftermath of the aftermath of the vaccine rollout here.
There has been there has been dead silence in the media.
There's been dead silence, you know, even within our communities of all of these young people, old people within our community that are suddenly and unexpectedly dying. Now we had a website here, it was called
RIP.ie and we had been kind of documenting, you know, within ourselves looking at, you know,
suddenly and unexpectedly passed away, you know, all of these young people, you know,
people had died suddenly and unexpectedly.
So we were kind of getting, you know, very freaked out
at all of these, you know, case,
all of these kind of posts that were going up on this website,
RIP.ie, and all of us, all of a sudden,
that website was bought by a media organization here and they imposed a 100 euro slap on any family that wanted to post about their loved one passing away.
So it immediately curtailed us documenting the fallout of these these vaccines and i was just wondering what was going
on at the same time in the uk were you guys experiencing something similar yeah absolutely
and um again like any websites that went up or any um new pages on on twitter at the time or x
or facebook that were being taken down all the time, especially in the
earlier days, 2021.
Of course, we have Andrew Bridgen, MP, who was the MP at the time, who was speaking out
quite vociferously in Parliament, the only one brave enough to stand up and speak out
against the jabs and saying, look, you know, these things are killing people.
And he was, you know, laughed out of the room every time he spoke about it.
But as time went on, they were laughing at him less.
And now they probably realise he's still speaking out about it.
And he also helped us with the whole involuntary euthanasia thing.
I don't know why I keep saying involuntary euthanasia,
because that to me is murder.
It's the same thing.
So if you involuntarily euthanise,
now I should say it in a better way,
if you euthanise someone against their will,
that's murder.
You're killing them.
And actually, in a legal sense,
if you're found to have done that, you will be charged with murder.
It's going to be the same jail sentence up to life imprisonment because it is killing someone.
But it seems when doctors do it, that it's fine.
But if you or I did what the doctors did, if we had our elderly parent at home and gave them so many drugs that it killed
them, it would be done for murder. But in hospitals, that's exactly what they do. They just pump them
full of drugs. They overdose them until they die. And that's all right because a doctor did it.
Although in actual fact, it's not the doctors that actually administer the drugs. It's the nurses.
So if anyone gets thrown under the bus it'll be the nurses um and
and the doctors are saying well i was just following government protocol and the government
will just say oh we had instructions from the who and then you know the only people that you know as
i've said in other interviews if um if the man if a man says to me go and shoot that person over there
and i do it he doesn't get into trouble I get
into trouble for firing the shot and it's the same when it comes to the administration of these
end-of-life drugs and also when it comes to the administration of the vaccines because the people
who are responsible for the injuries and the deaths are the people who actually put the needles
in the arms not the person not the people who told them to
which doesn't sound very fair but legally that's how it works so anyway just back to Andrew Bridgen
he's the I got him on board um through a friend of mine uh back in 2023 and we had a meeting in
parliament over here where I organized for 42 families to come along and meet him and tell their stories and actually in the House of Commons in Parliament.
And he's been on board ever since.
And also a really brilliant journalist called Majid Nawaz, who has been following it from 2022 and just writing about it constantly.
And, yeah, really being helpful to families and doing a lot of good work.
So, yeah, there have been a few people who have stood up, but they've all had to step down from their jobs.
You know, Majid used to work in mainstream media and radio, but now he does his own thing and he's i'm sure much happier and much better off
but he's been he's been brilliant with um helping with this um and other people as well in in the
past who've been involved so yeah there's there's stuff going on but it's really difficult to get
these cases into court because not many lawyers will take on these there have been a couple
and there's one that's still ongoing we'll get some results from that um later in the month but um not many lawyers will take on the
nhs and the government you know it's more more than you know more trouble than it's worth for
them um they probably you know feel they're not going to win. And also the amount of money that it costs, you know, not many people can afford those sort of legal fees. But the NHS, the government seem to have
a bottomless pit of funds, and they can drag things on for as long as they want.
And hopefully till you get tired or until you run out of money or until you die, which a lot
of people do in these cases, because they can drag on for decades. So you have to be made of strong staff and be able to find a lawyer and have the funds
to actually get anywhere with these cases. Otherwise, you know, nothing's going to happen.
One thing as well, we had a few cases here in the coroner's court.
We have a fantastic journalist, Louise Rosengrave,
and she's been diligently following the coroner's court.
And we did have a young family here in Mayo.
I'm from the Mayo area in the west of Ireland.
And a young boy passed away after taking one of these shots.
And what the family went through in the coroner's court
was just absolutely ridiculous.
They had requested the Pfizer, I think it was Pfizer or Moderna,
I'm not sure which injection he took, but they had requested, you know, representatives to attend the coroner's court to give evidence and they refused, you know, and you also had, you know, the coroners, which are another group of individuals that, you know, could be doing a lot more.
But they're also turning a blind eye because they're seeing all these large blood clots, you know,
coming out of, you know, these individuals and stuff, you know, happening, you know, to the bodies that they could be standing up.
And so it's a very difficult um journey uh to try to
bring to light what's going on and at the same time we have a whole cohort of our societies both
in ireland and england that are stuffing that are suffering horrific vaccine injuries and they're
being thrown they're being cast aside uh the doctors don't want to know
about them uh the state doesn't want to know about them now i do know i i i i could be wrong
but you might correct me um i do believe there is a vaccine injuries um board over there in the uk
uh there isn't there isn't something similar here in ire Ireland. I don't know what the story is as regards
that. We have the yellow card scheme here where you can report any kind of medical injury from
vaccines or any kind of drugs, side effects or what have you, especially injuries and deaths.
And that's been going since the late 1970s. And they have paid out millions since then.
But the actual compensation has never changed.
It's always been £120,000.
So the woman I mentioned to you earlier who spoke in my film Playing God,
when her partner died, she was one of the very first people who received compensation for the COVID jab for AstraZeneca.
She got 120,000, but these days, 120,000 for a life, it's like, well, you know, that's not going to go very far, is it?
And it certainly does not compensate for the loss of your loved one's life. It's an insult, really. But I did hear at one
point there's such a huge backlog that most people aren't going to get their money for 15,
20 years. So this is what I heard a couple of years ago anyway. I don't know if they've managed
to improve that. They're going to be doling out billions, probably, by the time they've actually
dealt with everyone.
But the deaths all didn't happen at once.
Obviously, some people drop dead the minute they have the jab.
But that was rare. What we're seeing now is people just dying suddenly and mysteriously and unexpectedly.
My cousin's only son died at the start of the year, New Year's Day, in his sleep.
died at the start of the year new year's day in his sleep he was 25 um we're starting to see and
He was 25.
hear more and more of these tragic stories and and and that don't make any sense and people say
oh you know people have always died in their sleep people have always died on the sports pitch
no not in the numbers that we're seeing now, then the non-believers are saying,
well, it's just being reported more now
because of social media and then everyone hears everything.
But when you actually do look at the facts and figures,
there's definitely an alarming increase in deaths in young people
and just sudden unexpected deaths.
And it's not right. It's really not right.
And sadly, I think it's um it's it's not right it's really not right and sadly i think it's only
going to get worse yeah and um even now um what are your thoughts on you know um the after after
the pandemic there uh the the care that's going on in the care homes um I would be still quite worried about what's going on in there, you
know, in the care homes. Also as well, what has crept up as well over here in Ireland
is we had some members of our Oireachtas, sorry, not Oireachtas, start waving about
the assisted suicide bill.
Another
nefarious bill
to take out a number
of population. I believe
it's all under the guise of
organ donation as well.
Well, not organ, organ
capture, basically.
What are your thoughts on this organ capture? Because I know in Ireland there last year the state basically said that everybody
in this country were opted in to organ donation. So if you tragically died, you know, if you tragically were injured in an accident or whatever,
your organs would be captured for organ donation without your consent, without family's consent.
Now they have, because of the pushback from the public, from people like us here on the space and other
truth warriors, they did bring in an opt-out measure. I was just wondering, what are your
thoughts around the organ donation and the assisted suicide bill that is creeping in here?
They're all linked for a start.
My next film is called The Gift of Life?
It's all about organ donation, organ harvesting,
and the controversy surrounding brain death.
And I'm in the middle of filming that at the moment.
And I'm also trying to crowdfund for that.
So I can't really do it without people's support,
but I'm kind of like
you know doing as i go along i filmed a couple of interviews last week we've got some um amazing
people talking to us for the film and we've got dr heidi klessig from america who talks about
her work as an athesiologist back in um in her younger days where she actually realised that she was being told to give anaesthetic to brain-dead people.
And when she asked why she was being asked to give anaesthetic to people who were dead,
the surgeon who was about to do the organ harvesting said, you know, just in case.
or you know just in case and halfway through the the operation where they're removing this poor
so-called brain dead person's organs they start to move and flail around again the the surgeon
says to her oh give him a bit more there because um you know he's waking up and she's like but
isn't he dead and they're like yeah well yeah so, you know, brain death appears to be a myth.
She's written a book called The Brain Death Fallacy. She's going to be talking to us in the film.
I've also interviewed a woman who's, it was a huge story here in 2022. Her son was 12. He had an
accident. He was put on life support. And then they wanted to take him off
the life support. They said he was brain dead, even though they hadn't done any brainstem death
tests. They just decided he was brain dead. But the family said, no, he's not. He was showing
signs of movement and that he could hear them and stuff. And they had 22 court hearings, I think, over it
where the hospital wanted to kill him and the family wanted to save him. And in the end,
they got a court order to take him off to life support and let him die. 12 years old,
it had only been four months that he was on life support. You know, there are so many stories of
people who wake up a year later or even longer, you know.
I think that the longest someone's been on life support was like 20 odd years or something and then they wake up.
So to just make that decision through the court.
And then she told me she had to sit and watch her child be executed in front of her.
And it was an absolutely horrendous experience.
So I'm talking
to her I also spoke to a woman last week and we filmed the interview with her she was put into
an induced coma after a suicide attempt and they the family agreed to donate her organs
and on the day they were going to start going about that, she woke up.
So we're including a lot of sort of interesting interviews like that, and also facts and figures.
And I'm doing that film with a director called Richie Brown, who's a podcaster and filmmaker.
And I did my last film with him as well, which I't think we've mentioned it's called Unseen that's amazingly on YouTube it's still up on YouTube and that's again about involuntary
euthanasia but kind of update from the you know because it came out last July and I'm also working
on another book but I won't tell you about that because I haven't got very far with that but
with Murdered by the State I could fill five volumes easily with more stories.
You know, I could put 40 stories in five books easily.
And, you know, there's a lot of people.
I've probably spoken to about a thousand people so far whose loved ones have been killed in this horrendous way.
loved ones have been killed in this horrendous way.
And what's interesting is when people watch the films and read the book,
the cogs start whirring, you know, and they start to think,
hang on, I think that's what happened to my dad,
or I think that's what happened to my sister.
But then they just think, well, there's nothing I can do about it now, you know.
But people get kind of resigned very quickly. In fact, when I
first started putting that story out, one editor said to me, it's not really much of a story,
because we know that happens all the time in hospitals, that the elderly and the terminally
ill get a little helping hand at the end. And I said, but the point, the story that I'm focusing
on are people who aren't elderly and who aren't terminally ill. These people have gone into
hospital with minor ailments
and then are put on these pathways and die.
So that's what I've been focused on.
So, yeah, no wonder I'm tired and my blood pressure's through the roof.
Yeah, I know in Canada they have the MAID program.
So if you, you know, if you are experiencing mental health issues or you just are tired with life,
they recommend a maid and off you go.
I think there was a story just recently, although there's many stories coming out of a horror story.
A woman went in, was diagnosed with breast cancer, and they said you can have chemotherapy, radiation, or you could have MAID.
You can have euthanasia.
She's like, I don't want euthanasia.
And they're offering it now and pushing it, and that has got to be illegal.
You cannot push something like that onto someone, especially onto elderly people who might feel that they're a bit of a burden anyway.
especially on to elderly people who might feel that they're a bit of a burden anyway, you know.
And it's just there was the story just the week before last in Canada of a man who was caring for his wife.
And he was finding a bit of a struggle and he was suffering from burnout, according to his doctors,
because he was really struggling looking after because he was elderly himself.
So he kind of talked her into maybe having you know an appointment at made and maybe being
euthanized and she kind of said yeah okay but when it actually came to it she said no she didn't want
to do it was against her christian beliefs she didn't want to die but they did it anyway
how can that happen they they killed her that's yes it's it's absolutely barbaric
the husband signed it off you know know, and they were like,
and she was like, no, no, actually, I've changed my mind.
I don't want to do it now, which is quite understandable
when it comes to it, you know.
But anyway, yeah, there's all kinds of horrors going on
in the world, as we know.
And the only way we can actually try and stop it
is by talking about it and and and taking action however we can whether
it's singing a song about it writing an article about it making a film or just doing something
like this space is talking you know the more we talk about it the more we can raise awareness and
the more angry people will be and then hopefully that angle will turn into something positive and constructive.
And just for the record, as regards the process of organ donation, a lot of people think that the person has to be deceased before the harvest, the organs, but the person is alive you know and as far as like as far as i'm concerned
life is life it doesn't matter if you know there's no hope of the person you know coming back
it's still you know where there is life there is a chance and by you removing that um you know
you're playing you're playing the you're playing god basically you know, you're playing God, basically.
You know, that's kind of my thought.
Brain death was a construct that was brought in in 1968 to facilitate organ harvesting
because they realised, oh, we can take organs from one body, transplant it to another.
But how are we going to do that?
Because it's no good if the body's dead.
The body has to be alive so how are we going to get away with you know taking organs from a living body and putting them into another body legally
you know so they had to invent something so they invented brain death if we say the person's oh
that yes their body's alive you know they're still breathing their heart's still pumping they're
still urinating they're still you know everything's still flowing in the body but we just say oh but they're brain dead so that's fine but a lot of
people believe there's no such thing i don't think there's any such thing i think it's an utter myth
and it was brought in obviously to facilitate organ harvesting and that's been going on since 1968 when it's still going on to this very day
yeah it's absolutely horrific and and and and you know when you look at this thing
it it comes to money um there's obviously huge money to be made from organ organ harvesting as
well whether it's on the black market or through the normal recourses.
So, you know, where there's money, there's always going to be,
there's always going to be, you know, foul antics at play.
I think our good friend there, Colleen, has a few questions for you.
And thank you, thank you, Jackie. You've been absolutely fantastic.
Oh, thank you.
Are you there, Colleen?
Actually, can I just pop out for five minutes?
Two minutes, I'll be back.
Yeah, no stress.
Yeah, that's just, yeah, yeah, that's just like horrific, the euthanasia bill. And we've talked about the MAID program here before as well, you know, like how they're just euthanizing people left, right and center, you know, like people that, you know, with, you know, whether it's mental health issues or substance issues or, you know, whatever that could be treated, you know, with a bit of patients, a bit of therapy, you know, but they're not willing to do that because obviously you're involved in, you know, finances, money, time, whatever.
know uh finances money time whatever and uh the easy option just get rid of them you know just
you know send them on their way and that's it you know that's the canadian made program you know and
like that we've seen it all you know because x exposes it all but basically they're putting
that as an option in front of people for what mental health issues depression homelessness
uh people who've had trans
surgery that went wrong um and you know it's going right down to i think children uh behind their
parents back but just didn't i say there people should check it themselves they don't be saying
anything that's wrong but i have seen all sorts here on x um the scary part is that the lefties
in ireland are obsessed with it they i have a i believe it will be brought into ireland
and they're pushing for it constantly there you see see it in the Senate. You see it in the Dáil. And of course, the masses will
buy it because they buy all the bullshit. It's always pulling on the heartstrings. They
go for the rare case, the one in a million case. Well, imagine now if you were left,
like, roll out a granny in front of you that's in agony or something, begging to die or something
and pull on a few heartstrings and people vote for it. Isn't that how it always goes?
Yeah, I think it's a terrible thing. I mean, we don't want to end up in a situation
like Canada where MAID is being used,
as you say, for even people who've got financial struggles, you know.
There was the case of the woman as well who
was a veteran, wasn't she? And um was a veteran wasn't she and she was
in a wheelchair and she'd been asking for a ramp to her front door for a long long time and
the last time she asked they said have you considered maid and she's like i just want a
ramp for my wheelchair i don't want to be euthanized so they're just offering it to everyone
and anyone it seems um and anyone, it seems.
And the more people they can get rid of, the better.
That's the way it's looking anyway.
Colleen, have you questions there?
If not, I've just one or two to kind of finish up.
I think she's busy.
Yeah, yeah.
Look at Jackie. You've been absolutely fantastic, but I kind of want to focus on you now and, you know, the personal impact in, you know, being a truth, being, you know, speaking the truth and documenting what has happened to us the last few years I know
you've produced
several films
there and you've wrote numerous books
and I'm sure
there has been an emotional
and a financial cost
to you because obviously
you were an acclaimed journalist
and you lost your know uh your ability
your ability to make income you know proper proper income because um they no longer wanted
your articles so i was just wondering you know maybe you might impart the the the cost that it
has been for you and i know you'll probably say well, look, it's part of the parcel.
But I do think it is important, you know,
that people realise that, you know,
when people are speaking the truth,
you know, that there can be, you know,
you know, some kind of, you know,
you know, financial issues,
you know, personal issues. Absolutely.
That affects you.
Yeah.
One of my biggest fears is people feeling sorry for me.
I really don't want anyone to feel sorry for me.
But it's not like I've gone from being an acclaimed journalist earning millions a year.
I was an average working journalist doing all right.
And because I've chosen this path, yeah, it has
cost me. Luckily, I had a flat that I was living in, and I lost that, basically. I mean,
it was being repossessed, so I had to kind of let it go. So that was annoying, to say
the least. But I must say, since it's gone, I
feel actually quite a lot more free. I don't have that worry hanging over me. But I think
I always believe that if you're doing the right thing, everything works out in the end.
And if it hasn't worked out, it means it's not yet the end. So throughout my life, I've
always taken risks and it's always worked out. Okay. There
are periods where it's scary and it's a struggle, but I think anyone who's, who's, um, made that
leap into the unknown, which is quite an important thing to do in your life. Some people never do it.
Some people do it once. Some people do it over and over, but I've done it quite a few times.
You just take the leap and see what happens,
and it always works out okay.
Well, it has done for me,
but I do rely on the support of people
who agree with what I'm doing.
A lot of people don't like what I'm doing
and wouldn't support me,
but the first film, Iconic, supported me through that.
The second film, I did a crowdfunder and raised enough money to pay all the people involved in making it.
And even myself, which was quite good.
And then not a huge amount, but just to cover our costs.
You know, that's the main thing.
Third film, again, no, we didn't make the target at all,
but we managed to do it anyway and using some of our own money as well
just because it was an important film.
That's the one on YouTube, Unseen.
And because there were just two of us making it,
the overheads weren't huge.
So luckily we managed to do that and the film we're doing now if you look at on crowdfunder and look up the gift of life question mark um i think last last time i've looked we've made
about 700 pounds so far which is good because i think we've only spent about 400 so we're doing
all right at the moment so um that's just to cover the filming cost
editing promotion marketing travel you know all the stuff that it involves but we're not looking
at kind of disney or netflix budgets we're hoping to raise like 10 000 but um and maybe we will i
don't know i managed to make make more than that when I did Playing God.
But it took a long time. You know, it takes a long time to get the word out as well.
So people can share the link and share what we're doing.
And it's quite strange because a lot of people say, yeah, you've got to make the film.
That's going to be such a great film. I was like, we'll stick a fiver into the crowd funder there.
And they're like, oh, no, I can't afford it, which is fair enough, because most most people can't they don't have the spare cash to put towards things like that or they're sponsoring
other things or you know very few people do have a spare five pound note these days but
but if they do it would be very very much appreciated and you know even even small
amounts add up so yeah we've only had that going a few weeks so to raise 700 in a few weeks is
pretty good so but we will be putting the money to good use and we'll be making the film um you
know over the years people say oh you're such a grifter you're always putting crowd funders out
and asking for money but a grifter is a con person i'm not not a con person. I always deliver at the end of it.
So what would be great would be if we could get some kind of sponsor, you know, who'd like cover the whole cost of it.
And then I don't know how that works. I'm not very good at that side of things.
But, yeah, I'm just kind of making it up as I go along, really, and hoping it all turns out well.
And so far, everything has. And I'm really proud of the three films that I've made,
and I'm really proud of the books that I've done.
And I just hope people will recognise, you know,
the work that I've put in and will enjoy, well,
enjoy isn't the right word, but that they will watch the film
and appreciate them and hopefully share them with others.
Yeah, absolutely, Jackie. appreciate them and hopefully share them with others.
Yeah absolutely Jackie and the thing is the thing is that you're on the right side of history and and that that is I think very very
important you know that you can you can say well you know I spoke out
I you know I informed the people and that's all as a person
that I can do.
I don't have the means to change the world
but I'm able to affect those
that listen to my work
or not listen but read my work
or listen to my podcasts.
So just a final question
and we'll let you go
because you've been so generous
with your time.
Final question. Will we ever see justice? Will we ever see anyone being held accountable?
Because I know they brought Fauci up there, but there's nothing really happening.
Will we ever see anyone held accountable?
I'm feeling very optimistic because there is a mass awakening going on now we can
see it all around us you know if i if i was telling these people these stories to people in
in um it's say in the pub you know uh five years ago they'd think i was a crazy conspiracy
theorist tinfoil hat nutter but now if i mention the book that they go oh right yeah i've heard
something about that that's that's terrible isn't it you know actually people are realizing it's taken five years six years but
people are are now realizing so I'm hopeful on that front also yes I think we will be hearing
some results maybe sooner than you think about people being held to account and yeah I think yeah I think I think um there will be justice um maybe not
immediately maybe not tomorrow the next day but I think sooner than most people think we're gonna
see something and and like I said earlier if everyone does their bit if everyone whatever
your skill is if you're good at talking go and talk to people and tell people
you know if you're good at singing write a song or you know sing about it um just use whatever
skills you've got and also at the same time keep a very close eye on your loved ones especially
elderly or disabled loved ones and especially people going to hospital always keep an eye on
them always let
the staff know that you're there and that you're watching I think that's really important because
I think some of the most of the victims um over the last especially at the start in 2020 and 2021
um there was no one around you know and that kind of didn't didn't help the situation basically so yeah just
just do what you can to spread the word and also um keep an eye on your nearest and dearest
thank you thank you jackie for um coming on our um space this. It was an absolute pleasure having you on.
And I would advise everybody on here just listening tonight
to follow Jackie on her sub stack.
And if you can support her work as well,
the links are in the top bubble there.
So I would advise everybody to pop on to her sub stack.
Her work is absolutely fantastic.
Thank you again, Jackie, for popping on.
And maybe later in the year, you might pop on again with us for an update.
Yeah, thank you very much for having me this evening.
I've enjoyed chatting.
I have kissed the Blarney Stone, you can tell at some point in my life.
That's all right.
That's all right. That's all right.
We all like to chat here.
That's one thing the Irish are good at.
Yeah.
Whether you want to hear it or not.
You know all my family are Irish.
I just got my Irish passport, by the way.
So I'm thrilled with that.
That's great.
That's great news.
And look, we'll be following your work closely
and uh we'll we'll talk to you again later on in the year and thank you again for popping on with
us you've been so generous no thank you thank you very much yeah thanks a million for coming on and
guys our links are all there in the top bubble and do give us support and if you can afford something
throw it into the into the kitty for the documentary and stuff like that. It is important.
You know what I mean?
And people, you know, can't.
Things cost money.
Time costs money and production and all that stuff.
It is important.
The more people speak out and the more these things get out there, that's the more likely we are to get some kind of justice in the future.
So, you know what I mean?
Don't shoot the messenger, as the fella says.
But it's great to hear Jackie's story there.
And she's done great work.
Anyone like that who does speak out needs to be commended because i'll never forget that time that's what set me
off in the activism that's why i opened these spaces every day that's what got me going away
i'm going to all the protests and all that it's because that you know it was just beyond it's
hard to point towards how bad it was what they'd done to people back then and uh you know we're
still here with no justice and everything else that's gone on. So, yeah, you need to back the people who did speak out.
That's my measure of actually a person's character.
I remember before the whole COVID kicked off, I used to watch these influencers, you know, Jordan Peterson, all these people.
I remember at the time, like looking for someone to be talking sense.
And I just like all of those people let us down.
I would never listen to them again.
That was the measure of people who actually had a backbone and people who were righteous was the people who stuck their
neck out during that time and i tell you they're few and far between so very important to show
support that's very very important i just said i'd say that yeah very good uh patricia thanks a
million for getting uh jackie on it's great uh great space and great information and it's good
to keep uh rehashing this i do try and
bring it up every day about the excess debts and stuff like that because you know we can't
we can't forget it and we have to keep keep banging that drum until we get some justice
yeah um i might shut down this one guys because i want to keep the recording tidy but i'm going
to open up another one on the ireland awake at mega era and we'll probably discuss epstein and
this whole crazy jewish supremacy fiasco the crazy shit that's going on we have a lot of irish
connections in that a lot of english in the uk and stuff like that i think it's a hot button issue
and i think it's important we uh we go we go with that one so we're going to shut this one down you
can follow us over there if you want i'll have it open there in a couple of minutes and it'll be on
the epstein topic and stuff like that so thanks for tuning in guys and uh we'll talk to you all
there in a couple of minutes yeah thank you govon
