Go what's going on good morning. AGM GM. Can you can you guys hear that music by the way when it first starts?
Nope. Oh, you can't hear anything because I could hear it on my end and I was about to come in with like good morning from NPR's latest edition of blah blah blah blah blah blah and just totally like everybody in the NFT space listening to this is like wait, am I in the right space for this? Yeah, we're gonna. So funny. Sorry, go ahead.
I was just thinking we needed some intro music. I was sitting here like, "No, it's kind of quiet." Yeah, because I can hear it in my headphones and it sounds like an early edition of NPR when you're driving into work. Somebody's going to tell you about the news and how everything's gone to shit.
all this stuff. But in a very nice educated, high brow kind of way. And so I was like, you know what, it'd be great to like just come, like come into that and like people listening in are like, wait, am I even in the right space? Like, yeah.
where your heads at, how I always keep the trolling on. GMGM, you guys. Good morning to one of our, the first Twitter space. We've had multiple Twitter spaces. I know 50th is here. I think we're still waiting on somebody. Is that right? Apocalyptic apes?
We've got our main account here, Oculus Gapes.
speech. Should we pull them on to speak? Are they okay listening in?
They're okay. I mean it's up to you. Whatever they want to do. Like they got their own thing going on. What's going on with you? How's your morning? It's going good. Happy Wednesday. I know it's like the first. It's one of the news items that I wanted to talk about today. The fact that it is one of the main NFT industry leaders.
Yeah, we lost her, but I was really excited to hear what you're saying. I know. I got I got run. I'm so sorry. You guys, it's like, I don't know what's up with the reception this morning. No, I was talking about NFT NYC. I know 50th obviously with a pocket lip dick apes and such like you guys, are you guys at NFT NYC this year?
I'm not. I'm just getting over a cold and I just finished an FTLA and I'm going to head over to consensus at that in the month. So these things are way too close. It could really, from what I know, like it's a real,
I know some NFT peeps in the community were also in Tokyo too as well. So they flew over from the United States to Tokyo and back to the United States to NFT NYC. When you travel in that
kind of way. If you're not in tune with your health, it could really rough you out. It's very easy to get sick. So if any of you guys out there flying in and up to you at NYC going to all the events and stuff, dose up on vitamin C
as much as you can because that shit is no joke. You don't want to be sick in the middle of events and you want to go see your friends and all this great stuff. What do you think about that, Tommy? Because I know you went last year and you got your new system was down a little bit too, right?
Yeah, I mean, well to your point, Palace, I've just done so much traveling over the years. I feel like I've just been hopping over different countries and everything. So many different places, past five years. So yeah, totally. Yeah, definitely gotta keep your health as a priority when you do the traveling. Keep balance. Try not to do too much, I guess, you know?
Or you could just sprint it and catch up on things when you're back normal. But they're a lot of fun, man. I went to NFT NYC last year. It was a good time. And I'm looking forward to, you know, I'm excited for us getting our community going and having events and stuff. I'm super stoked for that.
So yeah, if you guys don't know by the way, well of course a lot of you probably do know, but you know our NFT launch is right around the corner dragging DGens. Spend a year and a half building these a year and a half. There's not many people who spend that long building an NFT project, but that's how
you know, we fine-tuned the level of artwork to like a different level. I'm sure we'll talk about it more, but check out my my sweet PFP, you know, just just uh, uh, pick that one out of the randomization the other day. Looks sick. One of the things one of the things that I'm interested in is this whole aspect
of like 3D art coming into NFTs and we saw that with a little bit with what is that one collection, a kid called Beast, like the fact that they have PFPs that were like 3D, but the thing that like I think of when I think of that is this other news article that I was just thinking about was this, I saw this on
It was barring against NFTs as now a $1 billion industry. What's next? I find that really fascinating because with the NF and I'm sure they're at NFT NYC too was well like the collections that are going there. Like they, I'm thinking about this concept of the fact that like people are in it for the art but they also
see an opportunity for it to be collateral too as well. And when you plug that into the fact that NFTs are now a $1 billion industry, I think that we have yet to see what this truly is going to blossom into. What are your guys' thoughts on that, by the way, the whole fact of people barring against their NFTs?
I personally think it's an interesting idea. It could work, but you can get wrecked if you don't know what you're doing, and if you're also not financially stable to understand how interest works or debt or inflation or just the market flipping on you.
because you don't know what's going to happen. This market's open 24 hours a day. It seems like it's moving at an incredibly fast rate. So I think it's an incredible idea if you know how to leverage. If you don't, you have to really educate yourself. Yeah, 50th, I think that you have like the most common sense of approach to that kind of action.
I don't think that's an entirely safe thing to do to borrow against your NFT in a market like this. In your right 50th, the market, it's open 24 hours a day.
And the way that things are going right now, I kind of feel like just kind of wait and see. And like my approach to NFTs is always like, it's always for the art and it's always for the community. So like when I look at things like that, when people want to borrow against their NFTs, it's like, well, are you really in it for the art? Are you in the community or is this really about flipping for you guys#
It's just a fascinating part of the NFT space that people can really get wrecked if they're not careful. You know, and I feel like already there's already hacks and scams occurring in the space. Why would you want to add additional elements of a wild card into the mix by barring against your NFTs? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me if I'm being honest.
Um, you know, it's an interesting thing because you don't have to really look at NFTs. You just basically look at loans. You look at borrow and you look at leveraging. If anybody's ever been in business, purchased or has taken a personal loan,
or real estate loan or anything like that. I mean it's a student loan. It's very similar. The only difference is when you take a variable loan and adjustable, which means you know he could adjust and he can go up and go down. If you take a fixed loan, let's say you
take a $10,000 loan, well you have X amount of dollars how much you have to pay by what? But the differences here, your NFT goes up and down in price and the crypto that your NFT also goes down in price or you know I'm saying so it
it's adjustable in two ways. So you really have to understand this and you really have to break it down. It could work for you if you know what you're doing or it could have gave you against you if you are not experienced doing this. So I would just tell anybody to really take their time and learn how to do this if they're going to do this
because I know people who have lost board apes because they didn't know how to do this correctly. Eath went down from 4000 to about 1200, 1100 or whatever it was and then people lost at that point and then another thing when people
borrow against the NFT and their borrow ETH, not USD, and your borrow would say $1,200, ETH or $1,500, also ETH goes to $2,000, $4,000, well your debt just went up too. So that's just a few things that people have to really educate themselves on.
Why is words, like totally clear and just like very like, why is words there? I wanted to fit you, I wanted you guys to introduce yourselves to as well to the community here that's listening into the Twitter space only because I don't think we've done that yet. Fist, you want to introduce yourself in the project?
Sure, absolutely. We have a project called the Poculptic Apes and we also have a Poculptic Queens which is our sister project to which we haven't introduced breeding yet. What we should, we'll have little apocalyptic babies. We're a collection of 88, 88. We minted out of Christmas 2021.
Both collections have been sold out. We started out around it to a half-eat floor our first week. We've done close to 11, 12 million in secondary volume and we're just getting started. I mean our roadmap has pivoted. We've changed the
way we're looking at things, we're changing, we're doing things, we've brought in a lot of business such as hot sauces which we have. You can utilize your IP, we also have a new cookie called chimp bites which is two of many products to come. Chimp bites has been connected to another
a partnership called Bites of Love. They've been around for about 10 years, they're approximately 160 stores. And we're going to introduce more IP and rewarding the holders just for being Apocalypse 8 and Apocalypse 8. I'm currently working with Megadef, which I have a space with them on Friday.
Dave Mustaine, Rattle Heads is the name of the project and we're bringing him to Web 3 which is an incredible partnership that people will actually have a benefit on because we'll actually have some Rattle Heads inside of our collection with our babies. They're going to have some one-of-one apocalyptic apes and they have incredible partnerships with Hot Topic Games
They have wine company in Italy. They also have mega merch, which is their brand. They have collaborations with a lot of different businesses. So I'm bringing a lot of business into the apocalyptic age right now. Not to say that we're not connected with companies like Xola, who's working on some really cool metaverse.
with us. If you don't know who Xola is, they do all the payments for Fortnite, Roblox, and we have some other brands and partnerships hold the announcing shortly. So we're really going down the path of yes, this is incredible art, yes, this is a collectible, but people are honest. I mean
They want to come here. They want to make money. That's the bottom line. If you're here and you want to make an income and you want to make sure that your token does something for you, then that's really what we're aiming for. Really aiming for taking care of the people that have invested and been here for a long time and we're going to monetize this.
And I know you brought this up and there is that whole conversation about, you know, is the PFP really just for the R? It's for the money. It's both. If you can do both, if you have a one-of-one, well maybe you can look at it just for the R. There's a lot of collectors. There are certain things I collect.
But when people come in here and there's roadmaps and business plans and so on, we have to figure out a way to monetize this. And I think that's when technology meets some of this artwork. That's when these things really make it happen. And just touch on one thing. When people buy a painting, an expensive painting for
$1 million and they put it in their room and that painting they expected to go up and value it. They don't expect it to go down. So even in the art world, you know, and I've been talking a lot of artists and I've been talking a lot of like studio like real artists and visiting a few places and if you buy a piece of art for a million dollars and all of a sudden it's the value
if it goes down to 20 or $30. Well, maybe you like it or maybe you embarrassed to hang it in your wall anymore because you'll feel like, "Well, that art is just what, why you bought it." So, there's an intention of why you're buying something, why you own something, why you want to have something. And I'm not knocking art and I'm not knocking collectors
But we do understand this is an emerging industry and people want to be here full-time and we have to cater to both It's just a little bit about it. I don't want to go into a whole long thing, but we have a huge road map We have a huge business plan and there's a lot of stuff. So it's all my link tree We've got babies. We've got breeding. We've got some
Staking we've got all kinds of cool things coming out. I don't want to touch on all of it because I've realized when I listen to people going on and on about the projects for 45 minutes I'm lost after the first three minutes But with the caveat of that you brought up some real interesting points that Web 3 has to do
address for artists in their communities. And that is the right assessment though that it shouldn't just be about, you know, hey, are people with it, you know, are you here just for the art? Are you here to make money? Web 3 actually is a fusion of the two. And the way, at least from my perspective, I kind of think of it as like, if you as a community, if you cannot think of ways to like
or if you don't think of ways of generating revenue for your art, then somebody else is going to do it for you. And I think that Web 3 has to be the place where this problem is solved for communities or for them to grow and to be able to sustain themselves. But I think that your points are definitely points that we should definitely
talk about in this Twitter space because they're really, really interesting points. But before we do that, I wanted to shift the conversation to introducing Tommy and the Dragon Dejans project. Tommy, did you want to go into introducing yourself in the project and what it's about? Yeah, for sure. Well, firstly, Fidia, a pleasure to connect and that's
It's awesome, just to get insights and thoughts there. Ryan and I and the whole team have been in the crypto space for quite a while. We've been in crypto space for about 10 years. I've been in crypto space since 2012. Ryan's been in it since 2011.
So we got like a couple OGs around our team and yeah, we just kind of watched the whole evolution of the space. We built a blockchain called energy, which is the only blockchain, the only Ethereum, like EVM compatible blockchain with decentralized governance built on the protocol level.
which basically solves the problem that everyone's dealing with NFTs, which is like NFTs being stolen, the way that works as a network can do a vote and basically blacklist bad actors. That's on a protocol level. No one else has built anything like that. I don't know why. But anyway, I think we're kind of early to market on that because I think most of space doesn't even realize
that's possible to do. So, but along the way, you know, we're, we all, we got an NFTs in 2021 and that big surge that happened and yeah, I did end into a lot of NFTs and, you know, maybe it was a little too aggressive and buying quite a lot of
and along the way I learned that, you know, just like any other project, like you want to have good leaders that are in a long term. NFTs kind of reminded me of the ICO space in 2017 where a lot of projects just based a bunch of money and kind of just kind of took the money and ran.
That happened with ICOs too. I invested in like 50 ICOs, so I thought I could have bit first hand. Anyway, so that being said, we're about doing things like with quality. And so the way I started dragging DGENs was I was like, well, what would I want to be in the metaverse?
And the answer to that is like a badass dragon humanoid, you know who just looks sick and you know Like someone we see him when you see a dragon deach on the metaverse you'd be like damn don't want to fuck with that guy That was kind of the thought process behind it and it took a year and a half to to make
them. We did a ton of revisions, a ton of just little minor fixes and updates like you guys will see the quality. I've heard from a number of people that the quality is pretty hard to find or fairly unmatched in the NFT space, which
which is cool, but I'm really curious to get these out there and get more people's thoughts on them. We're doing an air drop, so we're launching on 420, which I think is epic, that's going to be our birthday. So, yeah, so coming up and we're going to do an air drop where anyone who
has an NFT out of about 45 collections ish will get an airdrop of dragon blood and they can use that to to mint a dragon if they have enough dragon blood you know or they could buy and sell dragon blood in the market so you guys can see all these details on dragon dragondegents.com I would kind of explain how all that
works. But yeah, we're coming out with a bang with a big air drop. Yeah, getting a lot of dragon blood out and then, yeah, that's kind of some high levels about it. But I think the whole idea is the reason why we put so much effort into the into our work is because the communities, the communities
Many members are wearing these, representing themselves as this, and again I really came from the process of what kind of profile picture would I want to have? What would I really feel like, "Hey, that's something that I feel worthy of representing me." And that's how, you know, that's kind of the spirit behind Dragon DeGens.
You'll see in the level of our work, there are 4K images like extremely high detail, there are 3D, you know, eventually we'll plug them in the metaverse, but they're like, get full 3D and whatnot. So that's kind of my intro on it. Ryan, do you want anything?
I think he got rugged so he's coming back up now.
for letting us know what's going on there. Love Megadev, so that was kind of cool to hear. But yeah, as for Dragon D Genes, we're really, we are making a collection with absolute
sick art and you know novel mechanisms or something as well we're adding into this I think it's really gonna make this an interesting mint that we should all have a pretty fun time seeing how it goes.
I wanted to ask 50th question, but before I do that, if you guys have any questions for drug indigens or apocalyptic apes, feel free to raise your hand and we'll pull you up on stage. We like answering questions, so if you guys feel inclined to do so, go ahead and raise your hand. Or you can even
I see a question in the audience, but before we get to that, I wanted to add
50th, what inspired you guys to create this collection? Because I'm hearing so apocalyptic games, like there's also other collections in the umbrella too as well. I think I heard there was going to be apocalyptic babies. I have so many questions, but let's start with the first one. When inspired you guys to create the collection? Yeah, that's a fun question to answer.
When we first started, I was an in right before we started. I was an investor in many, many projects and I still have all of them. I haven't sold any of them. I hold on. I'm one of these people that believes in people and hope they do the right thing. And I decided I'm going to hire an artist
and I'm going to start my own project, so I realized every community I was going into, I was just like the founders were blocking everybody, the moderators were blocking everybody. It was very, it was not transparent, nobody was docks, it was a strange place in about 2021. So I realized I think I could do a
good job with what I'm doing and I hire these guys are from Ubisoft they're incredible artists that had another project called unrestricted unicorns which was one of the projects that was involved and they're really cool and we decided to draw avocados so we called the project called Holy Guacamole and they were cool little avocados with pins
and cool color teeth and rainbows and 3D glasses and they're pretty funny and I remember I bought my first board ape in November of October of 21 or something like that I remember exactly and I met these guys a bunch of my friends went to dinner and they're like you'd want what's inspiring you
to draw these avocados. I said, "I have no idea. There's not many animals left, so I kind of went to some fruits and veggies." And they're like, "Are you sure?" And I'm like, "Yeah, I like them." And at the same time about a week before that I met Hadi, who's my artist right now for that popular pig-ape.
And he kept drawing like my mutant that I had in my born ape and it had really weird apocalyptic way They were like missing ears and things like that and I couldn't figure out why he's doing that and they're like you know you were doing those those apocalyptic things. Have you thought about going that direction? I'm like why they said people ape and apes nobody apes and avocado
And I really thought about that for a while and my artist has been really obsessed with the artwork, obsessed with the movies, big phantom ad-max, post-apocalyptic. He's a gamer, so Fallout is one of his games that he watches and looks at things and tries to
to try to draw a lot of the stuff. I call them up. I said, "I have great news and I have some not so great news." They said, "What's that?" I go, "We're going to go with what you want to do because I know you want to do these apocalyptic capes." He goes, "What about the avocados?" I said, "Forgot about those. We're going to be putting those#
collection of avocados. And he was really pissed off. I mean, he's like, this is like a month or two months of work that just went by. And I mean, he hung up on me. I didn't talk. Next morning, I got my first apocalyptic ape, which is my purple one with the mohawk, is the one I rock all the time. And that's
how we got here and that's what we've been here and what's interesting is a lot of the Australian community, but that was a big part of our project, loves Mad Max, loves the whole apocalyptic theme, so we had a lot of support and help with Australia and their fan base and we still do and not by design just because they like
like Mad Max, they like Mel Gibson, they like the whole apocalypse thing. And at the time this was coming along, I mean if you look at our world with the entire COVID, with everything that's been going on, being stuck at home, people not going to work, people dying, we were kind of in that apocalypse. So the whole thing with our babies is pretty cool.
that's about to be introduced shortly and that's going to be a little more post-apocalyptic where you see what happens if we actually survive the apocalypse. So they may not have missing years and bites and bullet holes, they may be a little cleaner and cuter. So I hope I hope that explained a little bit of it. No, that was like an awesome
That was like an awesome like overview of the project and where you're coming from. Avocados though, that's a really interesting kind of NFT collection that you have there. I hope that someday there's more added on to that because that's pretty cool. But with that being said, I wanted to pull up nonblank. So nonblank, did you have a question for our
Thank you for inviting me up here. My question is to Dragon Degence or Energy. I am holding Energy from 2021 and I am so much excited by this project and
And now if I am right we are minting dragons on Ethereum. So how do we connect here? How do we relate to this? Are we bridging them to energy later? Or what are you doing? What are we doing? I just want to ask this.
So I think for Tommy and Ryan, I think I believe the question was, as an energy holder, how does he benefit from the collection? Is there anything that he needs to do in his end to be able to, to reap the benefit? Because I think that he's, he's talking about the fact that energy is on the energy chain and then there's the effect.
Ethereum chain and Dragon Deogins is going to be released on Ethereum. So is there anything that we can answer for him in this case? So you know the technology we've built with Energy again, the analogy that I like to think of is you guys remember
like Decentraland and Manna and a lot of this stuff. It was really kind of looked over by people for a long time and then all of a sudden people are like "Oh, Metaverses are a thing" or "Look more recently to AI" right? AI was not really on anyone's radar and then all of a sudden AI is like a thing.
Well, I'm my my feeling is that some point in the future. I don't know how soon Could be years from now or I don't know when but there will be some event that happens where people are like oh wow decentralized governance is really important. We need this. Where is it? That hasn't happened yet
But decentralized, I always think about what's the future crypto. And the future crypto that I see is a place where people can transact and not have to worry about the constant scams. Scams are more out of control right now than ever before.
the space is ready yet for the solution to be honest with you because we have the solution and we're just kind of waiting for people to be ready. So along the way, you know, energy is like a sister chain to Ethereum. It's like 99% the same DNA as Ethereum. We did a couple improvements on it and one of those made
major improvements are decentralized governance, which by the way is like you can't really implement that like Ethereum is ossified. I don't see Ethereum adding the decentralized governance, but Flat who's actually one of the co-founders of Ethereum has been talking about decentralized governance for you know since pre-2017 he said that's the biggest
missing from Ethereum. But again, I don't think the space is ready yet. I don't think the space gets that yet. But for the time being, so that's why we're catering to the user's, users are on the Ethereum blockchain. And I have a ton of a lot for Ethereum. Again, I was an Ethereum ICO investor.
in 2014, you know, and I have a ton of love for Ethereum. So, if this is where the users are, that's why we're launching DragonDGens on Ethereum blockchain. However, it does kind of give us more of a platform to kind of educate people on things like decentralized governance
Can you guys hear me? Sorry, I was just getting a call. Can you broke up? But then we heard you now. I think it was right when the call happened. But yeah, when we launch going to make it, we'll have somebody
a lot of dragons also launched on energy so that's how that will work. But for doing things one step at a time, the dragon degens will be born on the Ethereum blockchain.
I think that it's an interesting perspective too as well only because when you look at what's occurring not just in NFTs but the ecosystem in general, it's hacks and scams but in particularly it's with NFTs and I think the best of you know at least from my perspective
I'm sure everyone has a different opinion. I think at least from my perspective, I would think that having an NFT collection and having them as brand ambassadors for a platform or product or infrastructure that protects people from hacks and scams, that is probably one of the best
approaches to solidify your collection in the NFT community as a collection that is against hacks and scams that's for decentralized governance and maybe even also educating the community too as well because for when I see out there I don't think a lot
How do people realize that decentralized governance is the wave of the future in regards to protecting people from theft that's occurring on the blockchain itself? So with the Dragon Dejian Collection, though, Tommy, how many one of ones are there?
Did I get rugged? Did you hear me Tommy? I Missed that last sentence. What did you say about oh no because I was thinking about the dragon deejan collection and how like you know it's great for as like brand ambassadors and With that in mind with the collection in mind and like are there one of ones in the collection and if so how many are there?
I'm excuse me, I'm eating apple right now. We have about 21 of ones and they are pretty sweet. You can see a lot of them on our gallery page on dragindegents.com. We kind of did a lot with the elements. Excuse me, we got like
fire water earth. We got like a monk dragon, we got like a Jedi dragon. So yeah, there's there's some cool one of ones and again I'm I'm super proud of the art you know. I take the art seriously because you know this is something that you
and people are representing us as their profile pictures. And I, again, just want to have, I like to make things that, you know, I'm really proud of, uh, proud of wearing or whatever myself. So, yeah, that's, uh, that's the, that's the idea. I love that. What are ones?
are so coveted in the NFT community. Like it's one of those things like if you have a one of ones, that's really special. Like it's it's it's not just for the art, but like for the other, you know, it has like such a great like connotation to it. Fisthia, I kind of have the same question with you too as well because I'm
I would assume that apocalyptic apes would have one of ones. But also, is that with the apocalyptic queen apes and then also with the apocalyptic babies? Would they have one of ones too? Yeah, I actually just posted one of our one-on-ones. It's the second pin up on top. That's one of our one-on-ones that's been missing for a body.
year. I mean, somebody had it, I'm not sure who had it, but there was like a 50 sale, there's a hundred eighth sale on that one. We have some Takashi 69 ones that I got approval from him to get that done. We have some Kimbo sliced junior one of ones and the queens have their own one of ones and then
the babies will also have their one-on-ones. They've been really rare, they've been really interesting, and I think the IP that people can figure out how to use out of these shortly, we've already used them on hot sauces and some of our cookies and so on, but there's a lot of things coming down the pipeline that make them really unique, and I've
I always loved every one of ones. If you take a look at that one, that one is just really different than the collection. It was really unique. It was one of my favorites and one of my really great buddies and community members just somehow picked it up recently because somebody I think had it on for sale really quickly. I think it was a couple of either less.
But yeah, our 101's have been incredible. I don't think we have a ton of them, but you know what's going to happen with these 101's and people don't think about this. People lose stuff, people send things to the wrong wallets. So as the collection decreases and the 101's actually become more rare. So yeah, we definitely have some 101's.
And in the following question, I have for you to 50th because you're talking about having apocalyptic a exfoliated with hot sauce, cookies, even mega merch. What makes your art work different from current projects? I see this other aspect of your collection where there's a very interesting
marketing element that's tied to it and for IPs I think that's something that is very very interesting to zoom into and take a look at. One of the things that about our collection if you kind of zoom in the art and you look at it they each tell a story of where they
came from what they're doing where they're at. And it really is really based on the apocalypse and post-apocalyptic art. And so each one kind of has a unique form of like a life it's going to bring. And you know, I'm really looking forward to bringing this art to life like Medaverse.
And you know, we dress them up. We do a lot of really fun stuff with it. So I just think if you look at the art, look at who the artist is. And he comes from being a traditional artist. He's not somebody that just, you know, decided to do this for NFTs. He's been drawing since he's been five years old. So if you kind of zoom in some of it and or blow them up, that's when#
the full effect of what they actually do or how they work. I think it's interesting like the fullness of the storyline with the apocalyptic apes and it's going in these multiple directions with apocalyptic babies, apocalyptic, clean apes. The fact that the story is being tied in and
And leveled up with the marketing aspect of it. For any IP, I think what you're doing is kind of like the the blueprints of how NFT communities could possibly level up in this kind of space, particularly in Web 3. I think that a lot of NFT communities kind of get lost
in the weeds. But if an NFT community or like the leadership of an NFT community can think of ways to have the storyline be a big marketing aspect, I think there's nowhere to go but up. But yeah, with the, I can definitely see like the wonderful elements there, as
Especially with Mad Max. Mad Max is like, listen, Mad Max is one of the greatest movies of all time. That first Mad Max. But I digress here. But I wanted to ask, Dragon Deegens, what makes your artwork different from current projects? I guess I can go with Ryan on this one because we haven't heard too much from you on this Twitter space.
All right. Well, you know, as everybody knows, it's 3D art and 3D art is interesting in a number of ways, but Tommy mentioned he wanted to make these, you know, metaphors characters, kind of the inspiration behind the heart for this collection. But the thing
the really stands out to me about this collection is like the just the sheer size and quality of it. And what I mean by that is like the number of traits that we have in this collection is like absolutely insane. There's about, I actually think it's over
over 1,900 renders that are being pieced together to make these dragons with 100 different trait categories within that. So it's really just a tremendous amount of variation. It results in every piece in the collection looking
you know, looking really unique and looking really cool. But beyond that is just the, you know, kind of the work that's gone into all of this is huge. You know, Tommy's opened up, said he's been working on this for about a year and a half, you know, building all of these different 3D models and rendering them and everything.
everything for 1,900 renders and making small tweaks, we can sure everything fits just perfect. There's been a lot of care that's gone into this. Another aspect of that is the randomization. The randomization
that we've done in our case is pretty interesting because a lot of projects have taken the approach of being very careful with the color palette to make sure things are going to look well when they all come together. But in our case we actually built custom
randomizer it has logic in that randomizer about like this part only fits with that other part so really just both on the tech side and on the hard side ton of thought and detail has gone into making sure that absolutely every dragon in this collection is amazing
Yeah, just looking through like the comment section, the collection itself, like the artwork looks incredible. Like it looks amazing. With that in mind though, it looks like we have another question from the audience. Let's pull up Z. Z is requesting to ask a question here.
looks like he's connecting now. Z, did you have a question for our speakers today?
Z, you gotta turn it on your mic in order to ask a question.
It looks like he got rugged. There's a lot of to rugging going on today unfortunately. Happy Wednesday by the way. With that thing said though, I wanted to pivot back to 50 years because
with everything that you're doing with the IP, I would imagine that there's also challenges involved in scaling a project like this. So what are some of the challenges that you faced when building this for your project?
There's always challenges and not just the projects and everything we do. The challenges, I just think the challenges of the self is really understanding where we're at and where we're going and what we're doing and how to make all the community members happy because not everybody's always going to be happy with the decisions we take or the pivots we make.
I think IP has not been a challenge for me because I've been working with IP and entertainment and real estate and a lot of stuff I've done. I've done four seasons of selling sunset. So, you know, and I'm about to bring in some fractionalized real estate investments into the space. However, I'm not going to bring those in here until I'm 100% sure that it can work.
and all the legality is having met. But the challenges are really just working with an emerging space and evolving technology that never changes. That always changes. Like every day you wake up and something news happening. You've got this, you've got that, you've got people who are doing this, everybody's
excited about the Metaverse. Everybody's excited about staking. All sudden staking is not legally United States. So there's a lot of pivots you have to know how to make. And I think that as soon as I actually realized, hey, you know what, I'm gonna just do what I do in real life and I'm pretty good at business. Much better than I am with, you know, building Metaversus. However, I#
finding partners that can do some of these things for me. So connecting dots is something I've been good at most of my life and I just brought them here and I'm doing the exact same thing I do in the real world now. So I'm just focusing on my business stuff and the things that I don't know, I'm delegating to people who are much better than I am. So even though it has been extremely challenging, there has been
a ton of toxicity in the space. There's been a lot of fun. There's group chats. If somebody doesn't like something, I mean this stuff just travels like poison. And you know, everybody comes in here and they talk about wag me, wag me, wag me. But that's not always the case. It's always really what are you going to do for me. So I
I think just being able to deal with traditionally 20, 30, 40 employees that I've had in the past to now have a community of thousands, thousands of people from different parts of the world with different opinions and different ideas has been a bit challenging, but I'm getting through it. It's becoming a lot easier now.
I'm so glad that you were able to give a very thorough answer to this because my follow-up here, one thing that I've observed with some communities in the end of tea space, whether they're like iconic brands or what have you, is this issue of community and the fact that you cannot make everybody happy in some cases.
And what I also observed too in some cases, not in every case, but in some cases are toxic community members that they're gang up within a tea collection or in a community. Have you had that happen? And then if so, how do you press forward in that kind of challenge?
Can you guys hear me did I lose 50th year? Oh no, I'm right here. I lost the second part you said. Oh yeah, no because I was I was listening to your answer and it was like a very like thorough answer and some my follow-up was that observing other NFT communities in the space. I noticed that in some instances
There are some toxic community members, but either on Discord or what have you in NFT collections. In some cases, that can cause a lot of chaos and dissonance. Have you had that happen to your collection? And if you have, like, how do you deal with that? Because you can't make everybody happy. Like, what's the best path?
forward. There is no path. It's just, you know, we've had lots of different stuff happen. We've had people come into our community claim to be somebody they're not and do a lot of damage to our collection. We've had people get upset and you know, drop the floor intentionally and lose money. We've got all kinds
of things which people create for no reason. I just, you know, the way I've been handling is I look at it as a, I don't look at it as a game stop. I just look at it as a speed bump. So I slow down, I look, I'm like, okay, no bodies, let's keep going forward. It is challenging because it does slow down the process because then you
you start questioning yourself, you start questioning the people around you. So it was hard to, you know, basically, you know, deal with it in the beginning because you realize these things are coming from people that you've built a relationship with, you spend time on Twitter spaces, you spend time on Discord or wherever you're at and you get to like some of these people.
And then when they come at you, it feels personal. And I think that's what the thing is to learn how to disassociate yourself with some of these things that come at you personal because they're not personal because you don't know what these people are going through. So I've been able to do a decent job at it.
try to resolve things with almost every person that I've had an issue with, or I said an issue with me and I literally walked up to a few at NFTLA, we hugged it out and everything's okay. But these are things people don't talk about. And the reason they don't talk about it's easy to attack a founder or a community mod or somebody on the team
because you don't have a relationship with that person. You're a little circle, you don't think that they're a real person, you don't think they're feelings, you think they're just there to make you happy. And if you understand that these are real people behind these PFPs and people could chill out, it would be a lot easier for everybody. But it's a learning curve for all of us and I think we're
getting better, we're not perfect. I actually heard Elon on a space last night and he gets attacked. He's not probably having an easy time with it. Just on Sunday I was at my buddy John Stamos birthday party first kid and I took a picture with him and he said it's cool to post it. So I posted and people started putting really
comments, there's like, "Oh, John needs his teeth cap this net." He texts me like before and he's like, "Hey, these people are really mean." And I'm like, "Yeah, I'm sorry about that." He's like, "I don't think I want to do that again." And I was actually trying to bring him to a toy in our space. So people don't understand that these are real people. They have feelings.#
It might be a time where we all have to take our monkeys off and put our faces up so they understand that. But that's the big challenge. These are real people and they do have real feelings. Super well said. By the way, John Stamas, because I've met him in person, because I live out here in LA, I've met him in person on a couple occasions. He's probably one of the
the sweetest, nicest genuine people in Hollywood, like by far, by far. That's a shame. It's so sexy to see people get attacked in that kind of way, especially when it's not warranted. So anyway, I could be could probably go on a tangent with that. But I also
wanted to ask a dragon degen's, what are some of the challenges that you guys faced with this project? I'm assuming because like with the collection that you guys have, there's so many different types of clothing, types of backgrounds. I would imagine like the process of picking these out would be a challenge, but what else is there?
Well, we're very early on our journey here with the collection and I try to learn from everybody I can to just to work best with it. I think there's challenges that go in pre-launch and then there's a whole different challenges that go in post-launch. So I mean pre-launch,
Yeah, a lot of the challenges are kind of circled around getting, you know, at the art right and all that stuff, you know, but I'm really shifting the mindset more of like what, you know, there's some major innovations with NFTs that cryptocurrencies themselves didn't have, you know,
One of those big innovations is the royalty system and the opportunity to be able to create a revenue from the trading activity of the token. Of course, that didn't exist before NFTs because just the exchanges would get all the money and not the community.
Yeah, but I mean really where my mind is is just really focusing on the you know and this is where I want to learn from other people
learn those marketing things, what makes what truly makes an NFT project successful. It's something that should be taken really seriously and studied deeply and that's something that's kind of where my mind's at.
Well said, I wanted to shift the back to 50th. Do you guys have any alphas for future product development? Yeah, we've got lots of stuff that we're going to announce. But one of the things we don't do is we don't really make announcements like we're doing this and we're doing that. We're just dropping things
they come or saying hey you know what next week on Thursday we're gonna you know have our hot sauce ready to be able to buy or have a new website or we'll have our new partnership so we're not really doing much of a roadmap of what's going to happen we're kind of doing like more of like this is happening and this way keep
the community calm and it also gives us an ability to make some adjustments if we have to with that everybody questioning what we're doing. So it just seemed to be worked a little better. That's a great point. Let me jump in here and say that's something that I've learned along the way is it's really important to you know you see somebody
will get a flag for, oh you said you're going to do this and you do it. I've heard that for other entity collections that we're going to do, a conference or whatever else. So I think that's a really important point. Fiddy makes is like, there should be no expectations. And that's what we have on Dragon's D games as well. It's an
high road map because I'm really careful about that. I don't want to set expectations or misadate and then people get up in arms. I think a lot of it is about being careful with setting expectations so people don't get upset and then just deliver. Isn't that what Board Apes did? Well, they
uh... you know dropping newt naps and everything they they i think they talked about it a little bit but it wasn't like a firm expectation they kind of just they can't just do things look at everything that's going on right now with with uh... the direction that they're going no one known is really expecting it they're just kind of doing it i think that's a big part of
you know, preventing. Yeah, that what's one of the things you're doing is they're under promising and over delivering and that's something that most most NFT projects or businesses should be doing and it's it's worked for Apple really really well. You can walk into Apple and say, Hey, when does that new iPhone
12 coming out 13 or 14. Oh, we don't know yet. And as soon as you buy your phone, you get home. There's an announcement. So they've been really good at doing that. And like they don't talk. They literally don't not talk. I don't even think they know. I think like I think that owners or the management or whoever's running Apple of these days doesn't even tell him
of their corporates. I think they really do not know. And I think that's a better way to go because if there's a bug or if they have a delay for a month or two, nobody gets upset because there's no expectations. And I think it's a really good way to go because I know I'm very guilty of coming out with an incredibly stupid roadmap. One of our ones we came out with are psychos
to call it like 2.0 caffeinated or something. And you know I looked at that the other day I'm like what was I thinking? And what I was thinking was I was trying to make every person in the community happy and that's just not going to happen. It's impossible, physically impossible and mentally impossible because I was promising things that yeah I could probably do coffee.
and different things. We're still going to do those. But this way we do it on our timeline where we can do it without having to run away from, you know, saying, "Hey, we couldn't come through on it." So it's just easier to do things by not always announcing everything and saying, "We're going to have an alpha week and we have our alpha week right now."
this, this, this, and that. Well, by doing that, what happens is you're basically when you scream the word alpha, you're telling people you have something huge. If it's not big to their expectations, they don't look at as alpha. They look at, okay, this is just a bunch of BS. So, yes, there's some true alpha out there, but usually when people start screaming the word alpha, it's not alpha.
I think having an anti-road map per se is probably the best approach not just for like NFTs but just for life in general. Like because if you're doing something that you're passionate about and like not setting those expectations for anybody and that's like like peering in, it's you know it allows
you to focus on what's truly important, which is the product that you're making, whatever that is. With that being said, though, I wanted to pull up a speaker here, Foxen, who's requesting to speak. Foxen, you can now speak. Do you have any questions for our speakers today?
Hey Foxen, did you have any questions for our speakers today? Absolutely. Good morning everyone. Fiddy is first time my senior in space and I go over the apocalyptic gates. Wonderful work. Thank you for your insight. Tommy Ryan, it is always a pleasure here from both the wishing more people would hear what
you guys are building up. But my question is actually for the Dragon D Gens, anybody can answer? I apologize if this question has already been asked. Are there any advantages for token holders in terms of the going to make a marketplace and or the energy swap?
So they're all tied together in a string of ways. So Dragon DGNs are tied to energy and going to make it. Dragon DGNs really gives us a platform to educate people about what we've done. Honestly, we're innovators in the space.
I'm really proud of it. Building the solution to the biggest problem in space is a big deal. I'm so proud of you guys that we built a blockchain that's eliminated crime. If you should check it out, sometimes if you're interested, but basically the long and short of it is when a scammer can't get away with scamming in your blockchain because they can get
blacklisted, they stopped scaming on your blockchain and they pick another blockchain where they can get away with it. That's basically what's happened on our blockchain. We had scammers, we dealt with our fair share of scammers and we started blacklisting them and guess what? They disappear. They don't mess with us anymore. So we have very few scammers trying to mess with our user on a blockchain. It's phenomenal.
But this is kind of escaped the whole rest of the space. And I just see the crimes get worse and worse and more and more sophisticated. It's crazy. I saw a tweet the other day about the way they're social engineering. They're trying to piss people off in some social engineering attack to trick them into on a whim, do something to press
basically press sign button on their men and mask. I don't even, you know, it's just nuts, you know, like advanced, really advanced social engineering attacks or they've been more advanced the past year than I've ever heard before. They've been social engineering attacks for a long time, but they're just getting more and more advanced. But, you know, that's how a lot of these scams are occurring. A lot of times it's just trick#
That's what it comes down to. And you have to have a way to protect people. And honestly, I think leadership is about taking responsibility. That's why we solved it. I've said he crypto sh*t ton. So I know a lot about crypto and I'm surrounded by extremely smart people as well. I'm so blessed to have people like Ralph
and so many good people around us, Ryan's a technological genius and it's me and him together that really kind of solve these problems. I have an idea and Ryan's like, well this is how you could do it. He fights the engineering picture and then I plug it and I'm like, okay we adjusted this and this and that's how we get to figuring things out.
To answer your question, yeah, they're all tied together. Dragon DGEN, there's a lot of really cool things about NFTs. We have basically Dragon DGEN's our brand ambassadors for energy and if we're going to make it. So have people representing us with these sick PFPs is going to help spread the word as we
I'm going to be out there a lot as our community grows really educating people on this stuff because again I think I think what the case is is most people just don't even know it's possible. That's what I've kind of realized in a lot of conversations I've had. Most people think that scams getting scammed is just part of being in the crypto space and it absolutely is not.
they just don't know that there's a way to solve the problem. So, yeah, again, they're all tied together. Dragon D Gens is tied to energy and going to make it and gives us an opportunity at book. But energy as a blockchain, the cool thing about an NFT is it's easy for people to use
and NFT. You have a profile picture that can represent both in the metaverse and online, on Twitter and wherever else. But that's harder for a blockchain to do. So yeah, to answer your question, Foxon, it all
It kind of ties together. Ultimately, the utility for energy comes in, you know, they're going to make a marketplace and letting people buy and sell NFTs on a blockchain that they don't have to worry about being ripped off, basically. But we're not there yet. It's still being built and just keep in mind, like,
I'm so happy to see crypto rising. I think we've, seems like we've bottomed out, but we're basically in the middle of, we're in the depth of the bear market. I think if I were to put an analogy, it's like, it's 3 a.m. You know, like the sun's going to start coming up soon, but it's like the
fucking dead middle of the night. That's where we're at. So is it going to be like that forever? No. Is it going to be like that a year or two from now? Probably not. In fact, I could see crypto being crazier than ever a year or two from now. But you have to kind of just ride the waves, you know. But we're setting ourselves up for for at all. You know, we got we got a block#
We'll have a marketplace that protects users and protects royalties by the way. That's what we're about. Just doing things right. Users have been getting scammed forever. This is the first time I've seen businesses getting scammed. Businesses as an NFT project, not getting royalties. It's sad.
That's what happens when you don't have governance. When you don't have governance built into the protocol level, this sort of stuff people can get away with. So we're going to help bring about that change in the NFT space and educate people and all that on it. So hopefully that answers your question. Let me know if you have any other questions. And good to hear from you, by the way.
No way, absolutely. Answer all my questions. Very much appreciate your time. I gotta get out here, but I'll go and be down to a listener so that people can ask questions. But thank you so much. I don't appreciate it. For sure. Good to see you.
Yeah, you guys and we're gonna be wrapping this up momentarily. So if you guys have any questions, feel free to raise your hand. We'll pull you on into the speaker booth here. But with that in mind, what Tommy just mentioned, hacks and scams and theft are such a huge pain point in NFTs. I would imagine like five years from now, you know,
I want to shift this question to my next question to 50th. Where do you envision NFTs to be five years from now? >> That's an incredible question. I love when people say we'll be okay in one or two years. After four or five days, what's going on?
on here like in that there's no patience in the space but yet people feel so calm to come out and say yeah two years from now three years we're good we'll hold you know that's not going to happen this space is going to really moon really hard really fast because we are pushing it and we're pushing it really hard and if you look at
Some of the metaverses that are being announced some of the partnerships that are coming in here with Amazon Amazon may not be here in April like everybody wants them to be could be I don't know, you know I have been talking to a few friends But there's an incredible amount of people and huge brands that have come in here you have people like Rupert Murdoch from
Fox who has a show and he's been in here building and he's been on space and talking about it. Nobody talks to him about it. Nobody cares about it. Why? Even though he's worth $80 billion and he's like number 13 richest person in the world. Nobody really listens to him. Why? Because he's got a plan that's going to take two, three, four years. He's got $2 million in it.
So he's already has a side for every show he's doing with this new project and I could name probably 15 or 20 other ones that are incredible that are here and they're building car companies manufacturers Giant brands, you know like the Odyssey program with Starbucks, you know a lot of people haven't really understood that
that I've actually dove deep into it recently, just trying to understand how that works and just getting the fact that everybody has an account with Amazon, most people do, and more people have those in Metamask. So I think we're going to see some incredible things. We're probably not going to see as many animals, maybe not so many monkeys.
these dragons and pigeons and so on down the road. This may be a unique opportunity to kind of hold on to some of these things because they will be collectibles. A lot of these collections are going to start disappearing. If you have a collection of 10,000 and five years I think that might be 2000 because people don't know how to keep things safe. So I think we're in for a wild ride and I think the
my biggest answer and I always give is just be here. Don't get wrecked them leave because if you do you won't be able to you know participate or get some rewards and some of those fruits that are growing on these trees but we we're definitely going to see some exciting times ahead when I'm not going to say I'm also not going to say two three years because a lot of you will I will have anxiety
I think that's the easiest answer I can give you. I can guarantee you one thing. Crypto is definitely going either up or down. I think like the other interesting element to this too as well in regards to
just getting started. So, yeah, 50th, your assessment is also super right. Just be in it for the ride, just kind of observe and kind of take notes and who knows where we go from here. It's a very, very interesting time nonetheless. But with Tommy, I know that you also have some interesting perspectives on where we're going in the next five years. What's your
take on it and that whole aspect of NFTs? Well, NFTs have some really powerful innovations. When I first heard of NFTs, maybe like other people I thought they were kind of gimmicky, but then I didn't really know what they were and then zoom me into it.
I saw, but then the way I approach things is, but now I see that I see things in NFTs that a lot of people in NFTs still don't get. And that's like, for instance, the royalty system. I thought it was pretty funny how when we saw on Solana first how they got rid of royalties and the kids come to Ethereum.
I actually start X2Y2 and all that but you know just like killing royalties and it's like no royalties are the lifeblood of NFTs you know you but but people like are like oh you don't eat royalties anyway just just things like that but the royalties are are extremely powerful royalties are
are how NFTs sustain themselves. You know, board apes went from being worth nothing to $4 billion in 11 months because of royalties. They had $100 million of royalties with a 40x multiplier. $4 billion company in 11 months. The royalties are the game changer. I was in Dogecoin when Dogecoin first came out. That was a
around the 2013 crypto bubble. The Dogecoin was born February soon after that. But Dogecoin had a massive community. Everyone was on Reddit back then. Now everyone's on Twitter, but everyone needs to be on Reddit. And the Dogecoin
community actually active addresses and everything at that time was actually competing with Bitcoin. It was nuts. But and then dogecoin like got $50,000 together for the Jamaican Bob Sled team and stuff like that. And that was a big deal because this was all community donations. But you know what they really missed out on? Dogecoin should have been an NS
Because if they had a royalty system as revenue, they would have made millions of dollars to do all, they would have done crazy shit. But that sort of technology did not exist back then. And that's what NFTs bring, and NFTs bring another aspect to it too, which is a profile picture, which is a form of marketing, you know.
having a bunch of people representing the community out there, it's a form of marketing. And that's why it's good having celebrities and influencers have a PFP like we've seen board apes do that pretty well. They've got a number of celebrities to either buy a board ap or have a board ap as a PFP. So it's a form of marketing.
So there's a couple like big innovations that NFTs bring that traditional cryptos don't bring and it also shifts the conversation from a competition for technology to a competition for community which a lot of NFTs or I should say a lot of cryptos excuse me a lot of competing cryptos They're not really
They don't really have much innovative technology, but they've built up a community behind it. So really, there are in the competition for community, but this just really zeroes in on that. It's competition for community as opposed to, oh, we have five billion shards and can do.
you know, 60 trillion transactions per second. You know, like, and these are not the pain points of the day anyway. The pain points of the day are things like crime and stuff. That's where it really is the issue. But anyway, it digress that NFTs have really brought the focus into the competition for community.
And I want to just share, you know, vision with you guys as well too. A lot of, you know, what we're going to be doing with going to make it is there's a lot of influencers and brands out there say you have a YouTuber who's got millions of followers. Having an NFT is one of the best ways they can monetize themselves.
Yeah, basically having a membership card to their community with royalties tied to it is one of the best ways for an influencer to have revenue or for a brand to have revenue. So this is where I see the shift happening in the crypto space. And this is going to really blow up over the next five years.
That's a pretty interesting take on NFTs and digital membership cards. I think I saw something in the headlines this morning about the Rolling Stones, the band Rolling Stones. They're doing something with NFTs yet they're totally trying away from calling them NFTs because of such a blowback from the mainstream media. I guess. But it's
interesting times nonetheless. And there's a lot of interesting perspectives in this space this morning. So I'm going to I don't want to take up too much of our time because I think that we're going over like the hour that we have for our Twitter space. So with that in mind, I want to thank dragon deejans and 50 and the apocalyptic apes for joining us today of 50 where can people find you in the apocalyptic apes?
Yeah, space is pretty much every day somebody's holding spaces. Sometimes we have two or three a day and on my link tree we have a discord we have Twitter follow me We're always doing announcements. We had a small NFT event in an FTLA. We'll probably be doing a
lot more events. We've done events in Australia, we've done events in Singapore, we're going to continue to support the rest of the country too. So we're doing a lot of cool stuff and we are going to be bringing in some really incredible partnerships that you guys will see. But Friday I have a space with Megadeth if you guys
like to join if you don't mind I'll pin it up and we'll have Dave on there and his family and his daughter, Electra and Justice who are absolutely awesome and that's going to be a really cool space and we're going to be bringing surprise people on the space you know like I don't know if you guys know the Post Malone waiting an hour to get his autographed
his guitar from Dave, Gwen Stefani, Pink, they're all huge fans of Dave and Megadeh. And so we also have the son Justice who works with Chief Trick, Kenny G, Dolly Parton. They also own the rights to all the Michael Jackson and the Jackson's music.
So we've got some incredible collaborations coming up with more music. So we're doing a lot of music and one thing I didn't mention all of our 101's on our Queen collections are tied to music, actual musical artists, they're recording artists that are doing some really cool things in the world. So if you guys want to do like on my link tree and take a look at our 101's or
go to Spotify and just type in Apocalypse Gapes, you'll see one of the first collections that had one of one Queens that actually have music attached to each NFT where that stream of IP gets monetized through our community. We've just been about to announce some of the new stuff about that.
It's pretty easy to find this. We're pretty much everywhere. On his little sign note though, like Megadeth and like their... because I really love music and like Megadeth and the LA scene in the 1980s, like they were a staple. So like it's no surprise that like you know, Gwen Stefani from No Doubt in Orange
And then like other bands too are big fans of Megadev because Megadev was a pivotal pivotal force in Los Angeles in the 1980s and it was kind of like it was kind of and although they're like metal but like there was also this emergence of glam rock that was coming onto the scene at the exit at that exact same time too as well. So like it's amazing
amazing that you're doing stuff with these guys. And yeah, like I would love to listen in on this Friday as well as going to your events in LA because like that is really, really cool. But I wanted to shift to Tommy the Dragon Deegons, where can people find Dragon Deegons in your self online?
You can use that air drop for dragon blood probably meant to free dragon or two. Normally the mint price will be 0.069 E. You know it's 10,000 E.
that we have, standard 10,000 collection, but yeah, pretty cool air drop design. The sooner you are to the air drop, the more people you refer to the air drop, the more the more dragon blood you get, the more dragons you can min for free. So yeah,
20 guys that's actually just eight days away. So next Thursday is the launch day. Yeah, be ready for it. I hope you guys love it. Fitty pleasure meeting you and just great listening to you and learning from you as well too. So I hope to catch you around as well.
Yeah, thanks for coming on the spaces with us. I got a reminder set for Megadeth, so I'll see you there. And yeah, that was awesome.
Yeah, thanks for hosting the space. That was awesome.
Very cool, very cool. Okay, guys, we're going to close it out now. Everyone, thank you so much for joining us. And we will catch you on the next Twitter space. Bye, everyone. Take care, guys. Have a good one.