GM everyone. Everyone is doing. GM, GM. Welcome. Welcome. So we have a flip side over here and we're also awake. Do we have the representative
from Axelpore, that could also be a speaker. Yes, that would be a Stephen, he's in the crowd here at Stephen Fluin. If you could bring him up as a speaker, he is the head of Dev Row at Axelpore. Let me just make you a speaker, Stephen. Let me see.
Welcome, welcome, Steven. All right, to kick things off, developer now is super excited to partner with you and to bring this exposure about this hackathon and just exploring cross-chain development. So I'm going to kick it off to Steven first and just start to walk us through
What Axelcore is, talk about how it works in cross-chain development and then I'll let you go from there. Sure, so yeah, my name is Tim Thwin, I'm head of development relations for a team called XLR and so what XLR does is we are helping to
to power the interchain future. We have some of them from pieces, but really the core offering for developers is the ability to both send assets in terms of bridging a few native assets. But then more broadly and more importantly, it's generalized message passing.
So you can communicate from one contract on one blockchain to another contract on another blockchain, all using decentralized consensus that comes from the Axr blockchain, which is a a Cosmos blockchain proof of stake, where we have a huge set of validators who then independently sign, hey, this is
that this happened on the sort thing and then they're for they sign and then they're able to execute on a destination chain contract calls. And so with that, you can build all sorts of different applications, everything from something we built, well, interchange tokens where you can take in the ERC 20 deploy it to like basically all the,
the EVA blockchains if you want as well as really anything that your mind can come up with. One of the hacks and winners that we had in one of our previous hackathons, they built battleship NFTs where you'd mint these battleships and they would have different properties based on the source chain and then they would be able to go
and do battle across the multiple blockchains. You can move your army around, which is a cool idea. Really, the potential is somewhat unlimited. We've had conversations. Imagine that you are an AMM, a decentralized exchange, where if you could use knowledge
of liquidity and volumes from other chains, you can aggregate that and use that to create more accurate pricing on a given chain. That's the ability to send messages between blockchain in a decentralized trust minimized manner. That's what XR is all about.
That sounds great. That sounds awesome. Flipside, do you want to introduce yourself? Sure thing, yeah. Don't be fooled by the data website.
name that we've got going on we got a little trapped in the April Fool's joke we did a little while ago Elon still won't let us change that back but you know what
I love the lab track. So we are a data provider, you know, partner to a lot of protocols in Web 3. Basically what we do is we enable blockchains and users of crypto to sort of succeed and be their best, right? So empowered with
data backed insights and various different tools that we create to help people navigate Web 3 successfully safely and better informed. And what we've done recently is sort of collab with Axelar for this interchain hackathon where we want to explore
The cross chain potential of the space usability has been a crucial feature or focus I should say over the last few months for all of the space and XLR is not a really great job of sort of pushing us all forward in that direction.
wanted to do is gather as many communities as we can around this initiative to help make a difference in usability and interoperability of web3. So that's sort of how we fit into the hackathon. Yeah. I love it. So I'm just going to ask like a general question flip side.
or Steven, you can kind of go into this more since there's a hackathon. Can we talk about some of the innovative use cases for their cross-chained apps today and how does it kind of fit into the broader ecosystem?
Sure, I mean, I'll kick this off and I will say I think part of what we're seeing is that we cannot even imagine some of the amazing things that some people out there are building. So like I think there's the way that we like to change excellence is very, very open.
in terms of we want you to bring your creativity, your ideas, and then feel empowered to do, to think interchange as we call it and start taking advantage. But at the same time, like we have done a bunch of like, we see absolute time, I assure a couple cool ones. But I mean, we had a
session internally where we came over the list of like 50 different ideas of like things that people could build. So everything from like you could build game token schools, right? All these like gaming apps are out there. What if you could create a sort of standards or tools that made you more able
to make all of those assets portable and actually use them across multiple games, those sorts of things. You could do web 2 abstractions, like you could do merchant payments in any asset for any purpose and any blockchain. You could build like an I don't know,
Oracle broadcast networks. So take some existing on-chain data that might be coming from an Oracle and broadcast that to other blockchains where maybe that data is not available. You could build a marketplace to sell and buy and sell real-world assets across multiple blockchains. So the potential is definitely unlimited.
Oh, wonderful. Since this is like a hackathon, and like, what are the few things that you can kind of talk about around like the challenges that a builders are facing using cross-chain dApps, and how are you guys solving that?
I sure yeah, there's a whole bunch of challenges that we're really trying to solve. Number one would be really getting people to think in your chain. We're at a state of the world right now where most people that enter crypto, most developers, most builders, they end up being pulled in by a single tech stack or by a single blockchain. That is good.
But when they start going to production, when they start scaling, when they start seeing about security and gas costs and economics and all those sorts of things, that's the moment where we think it's a huge opportunity for folks to start thinking, interchains, start saying, hey, how do I make sure that I am where my users are? How do I make sure that my users have a seamless experience? Because we don't
just have one or two or five or ten or fifty blockchains anymore. We have many more than that. Being able to think, entertain, and really take advantage of the trade-offs and the choices that these blockchains have made intentionally. Every blockchains not just a pure clone of every other blockchain. Some people are more focused on privacy. Some folks are more focused on
security or decentralization, some folks are more focused on scale. And we feel like that if you can take advantage of those trade-offs and not have to just live with like whatever you started with or the lowest common denominator, that's when you start to win. But I mean this can be hard like this, this concept, this journey of thinking and
But it's not the easiest thing, but I mean, neither is anything at scale or introduction at crypto security. But one of the things that we're trying to do is we're trying to make it really easy to see the full picture. And so, for example, we have Axler scan, which at first glance, it seems like another block explorer. But one of the things that we
do is when you have these cross-change transactions, these messages, there's actually a whole bunch of really complicated things happening in the head right there. Source chain contract execution, there's such a chain chain contract execution, there's decentralized consensus around the truth on the source chain so that like confirmation of what's actually happening and actual scale is one of the tools that we
help developers with to see all three of those independent contract executions as a single cohesive entity that spans block trends. And so that we're really trying to help developers see the full picture of where their data is coming from, where it's going, where it might be getting stuck, all those things so they can build better applications.
That sounds awesome. So we'll kind of jump into the hackathon, which is a lot of people why they're really super interested. Before we dive into the projects, maybe talk into briefly what kind of apps that you're kind of or dApps that you're looking to get built during this hackathon.
I can kick this one off if you'd like with the categories and then if you want to hone in maybe. So for this hackathon specifically there are five primary categories really like Steven said initially though it's pretty open in terms of what you can bring to the table so if you want to come build something you can definitely
find space to fit yourself into that, but it's divided into categories like defying payments, so connecting sort of payment rails or infrastructure across chains specifically for defying. NFTs in gaming, which is a really rapidly growing sort of sector right now.
Now, a lot of chains have their own dows and then they have multiple
various niche downs on chains and they're starting to learn how to partner with each other across chains. So if you're thinking about innovating in the Dow space now is a perfect time. There's dev tooling and infrastructure because we always need more sort of toolkits and applications for builders specifically. And then there's also like
social impact causes or Web3 social networks. So that's five total categories, each one with their own prizes and various placements that you can do. So... So since there's
So many categories, what are the resources that are available to support all the folks that are trying to basically go through the categories? Is there going to be like category explicit resources, or is there just going to be general help for people trying to build?
So I'll jump a little bit on this and then Connor you can elaborate and talk about other resources. So for this specific act on what we're planning on doing is we're planning on doing obviously kind of live discord support. So like if questions ask questions discord will give back to you as time comes up. We're also trying to do office hours. So the
those are the live synchronous human interactions. But in addition to that, we have a bunch of resources that are very self-serve. If you look on the active documentation, we've got a bunch of YouTube videos that we've been launching that go into each technology and we'll probably do some live sessions directly giving
works on some of these pieces. But then we're also working on developer tooling that makes this easy. So I talked about X-Lorps scan. We also have this GitHub repository called X-Lor examples that basically you can take an out of the box example that's like already working like an NFT token linker or a cross-chain lending conference
And actually just use that as the starting place for whatever cool problem you're solving. And so we're really trying to make it easy to get started. And then kind of one last thing that I would say is we really, like at the end of the day, we want to simplify. Like we have this vision of the future where you don't have to worry about the chains as much. You don't have to worry about
And to get as close to a close-up vision, we keep trying to build new tools that make that simpler. And so Axel examples actually has a local development environment that spins up five blockchains on your local machine. So you can send messages between them and see everything in almost instantaneous resolution time. It's supposed to wait on test nets.
We have this fantastic sandbox, where you can actually execute code samples in the web that are cross-chain, which is something that you can't just do natively with Metamask or any other wallet. Awesome. Let's dive into some of the requirements for each of the categories and then prizes.
Yeah, do you want to take that one further? Yeah, I can speak to prizes specifically as well as some of the different category requirements. So in terms of prizes, the total grand prize that you can walk away with if you take home, you know, the winning slot is going to be 40,000
So even just entering is a great way to get connected or get some resources or get help and potentially even get funding for your project. So there's a lot to be one here, but in total there's $90,000 in prices. And so even if you don't come away as the
top champion. There are still $7,500 prizes for each of the five categories for the first place. And then the second place takes home $2,500, which means that basically if you're in the top two for any of those, there's 10 winners who are going
to take home cash prizes or crypto in this case as well as sort of the grand prize winner of 40,000. So there's a lot to be a lot to be earned here. In terms of requirements, it's mainly just that you sort of sign yourself up with one of these five categories and that you know what you're building. So
So come, come, come, come with a plan. You can definitely join solo, but it is recommended that you bring a team just because you know you'll get further together. If you don't have a team, we can definitely help connect you with resources as well. Like various, you know, developer discord. Obviously developer Dow is a great resource for people.
The axelar's community is really engaged, really helpful and collaborative. And so I would say the biggest thing I want to stress about this is like, if you're not quite sure where to start or who to connect with, this is honestly a great opportunity to sort of put yourself in gear and get the support that you need.
I love it. I just got a question kind of DM to me. So someone's asking, is there like any language-specific requirements?
Sure. So I'll say, so XLR supports both Cosmos chains as well as EDM chains with or like token token answers and things like that. Our message passing, we are currently live on EDM chains. We have like we're kind of in test and right now with Cosmos.
So like if you want to send messages from a cause, it was changed to an EVM chain and vice versa. We have that forthcoming. So if you're comfortable waiting to go to production for a little while and you're finding a building in test nets, we have that.
So essentially that means that you're probably building most of your code or most of you will be building insolidity or viker. But then like if you're willing to take on some of this new journey with Cosmos, you also could be building things in Rust and Cosmolz on the Cosmos.
No, that sounds awesome. So since there is that newer journey that you mentioned, how do developers kind of get started with that journey? Is there documentation that there is or YouTube videos or what can they visit to start with that if they want to take the ladder back? Sure, sure.
Yeah, so I will say that one is definitely the bleeding edge. So there is a GitHub repository that would be happy to share out that allows you to basically just see how a Cosmos GMP message can be sent and receive. So we have a working example, a set of example
that you can use as kind of a base, but I will say it is not as, until we get it closer to being made that it is not as polished as our EVM journeys. That's okay. I think that's probably one of the best things that one of
the challenges I guess that comes with it. I'm going to open it up to some questions from anybody. So if you have a question, raise your hand and I'll make you a speaker. Billy, if you're there, you could help me also make people speakers. That way, also my screen is a little fuzzy right now.
You got actually I did have a question and I should statement as soon as he said that the axler repo has an example where you can run off on like different chains I went ahead and ran on that and just nicked forked it right now and it is super dope so you can throw it on aptos you can throw on an EVM chain
It is solidity. It is on a hard-hat layout so you can use that framework. You can literally deploy in like 10 minutes. So I love it as someone that's been tinkering in the Cosmos world a little bit for that and I'm a staker. That is awesome. I'm excited to mess around with this myself.
I've also got a comment I wanted to make from sort of the data side of things about this. One of the things we touched on early in this space a little bit is sort of what incentives there are or like what reasons there are for a developer to go into a chain. Steven did a really good job addressing sort of
The various restrictions that you can find yourself in when you're building sort of siloed on one chain and how different chains compete. And looking at the different features of various chains, you sort of get to open your
possibilities even wider, but also you get to tap into the audiences of various chains as well. Crypto is no longer a super maxi-centric, which is a good thing, very refreshing, but it is still relatively siloed. People tend to keep themselves to a few chains, and by
By taking your app or your app idea into a chain, you have a much wider potential reach. It's a better support network for builders to basically get early adopters, early users, and really build a solid foundation for their project.
If you have a question go ahead and raise your hand just so we know that you're on a queue we had two more people come up. Hey yeah this is Connor I'm a member of the flip side team and I'm working directly with Steven and Axel R to help coordinate the entertain hackathon. No real question here but just more
of a call to action for anyone that is interested in joining. There's the the pin tweet up top where you can go to the website and register but also wanted to just open it up to any you know aspiring builders who may be reluctant to to work on their own or maybe not
They don't have the best idea but are just interested in getting their hands dirty with with Axel R and all the possibilities of building interchain within the flip side discord There are some hackathon specific channels and one of them is a team finder channel So we've had some teams register and we've had a bunch of teams already registered
And of those teams, some have actually said that they have some needs on the team that they would like to fill out. So if you are interested in joining, but don't have an idea or nervous to do it on your own, definitely hop in there and just outline your skills, who you are, what you think you can contribute. And I'd be more than happy to help continue.
I think that for hackathons are a great way to get started, but there's definitely a barrier to entry. So, you know, whether it's helping you find a team or getting you more used to the docs, you know, the actual team has been great in offering their support as well to make sure everyone is as comfortable as possible building in this in this interchangeable
world. So just wanted to call that out and my DMs are open and you know this even has been just a wonderful help already to to to make our builders feel you know welcome in this environment as well so don't don't feel like there's anything you know stopping you guys from getting involved. We really want to see as many people join as possible.
It looks like Evelyn is next in queue. Go ahead Evelyn. Hi there. Thanks. Hello everyone. Thank you for having me on stage to ask my question. I actually posed the question first under in the thread here.
And for this space. So when you say Web 3 social media does ADAP that brings Web 3 to a social to a Web 2 social media platform count. Or do you want to
or does it have to be like a web 3, like all web 3 social media platform? - So yeah, I can definitely jump in here. So when it comes to web 3 social, we're really thinking of ways to
connect people peer to peer within the web if you're all I would have to I guess Talk with you more about what exactly you're trying to implement and more than happy to take that in the dms and point you You know to anyone I think it could be a resource to you But I think something that we've seen are like
You know, crypto any crypto any crypto payments via text messages was something that was a team registered that way and they they registered for the for the web through social category. I think that that's like a really good use case right any way that we can you know connect people from different communities, whether it's
payments or something else. But I think that incorporating the SDK into an existing Web2 platform, we just have to understand what the implementation looks like to be able to better answer your questions. So really happy if you want to chat me to talk through that a bit more.
Okay, cool sounds good. Thank you Connor. Yeah, no problem at all.
And definitely don't want to just pop it and hog the mic. So if anyone does have any additional questions, feel free to jump up, but also wanted to talk through, you know, while flip side and actual are the primary sponsors and the prizes and the categories are outlined in
We also have what we're calling innovation awards and you should see a few of these coming out in the coming weeks as we lead up to the kickoff of the hackathon. But we were working with some partners to outline specific needs that they've identified whether in their ecosystem
And so these teams are actually going to outline parameters within one or two of the primary categories. And they're going to outline their asks and the best team that solves that solution.
for them on top of potentially winning that category prize can win one of these innovation awards. So this is a good way for people that are interested in building but may not have the best idea or something that comes to them naturally to take one of these innovation awards and scope something out and build from there.
The first one is related to cross-chain payments and being able to create a claiming system where anyone can post collateral and claim that claim that claim.
collateral across any chain with any token. So that's one thing that is going to help our internal flipside processes as we look to just get more and more rewards for top analysts in the hands of our community.
a direct need that we have that we want to support our builders and actual our by using their tools to help our processes. So be on the lookout for more sponsors and more interchain innovation awards as well in the coming days.
Hey, Connor, I followed you so I get message you, but then I can't message you. So I don't know if you have to follow me. Follow me back to the message you, but just letting you know. All right, thank you. I will make sure I reach out.
We also had King come up, go for a King.
Hey, what's going on guys? You guys, you everybody hear me properly?
I just wanted to say, man, I'm extremely bullish on Axelar. So it's great to see you guys hosting the space with other developers and all that stuff.
That's all I wanted to say. You guys are doing an amazing job. I feel like sometimes as listeners in the audience there should be some incentive to just come up and be grateful and be thankful. So I just wanted to say that you guys are doing an amazing thing.
I appreciate these educational spaces. So for the individual behind Axelar, God bless you and also God bless developer Dow and also yourself, Poppy Billy. That's all I wanted to say. You guys take care.
And yeah, thank you all so much for for for being builders and you know just keep on building onwards and upwards and extremely bullish on this space.
Love it. Any more questions?
Something else I wanted to call out in terms of resources for builders. If you're thinking about building in, for example, a category like DeFi or any of the sort of infrastructure or depth tooling, something that Flipside offers is a
So it's basically an SDK that makes it pretty easy to integrate blockchain data across multiple chains that we support into your project. And so alongside sort of all of the other resources and
and you know, Discord servers and documentation and everything that we have built out ready for you to support you when you sign up. You also can very easily get your product off the ground if it uses, you know, crypto data. We've basically discussed
still that process to be as simple as possible. So I just wanted to call that out as another resource for builders. I'm going to pin a tweet up at the top. This one references specifically Python, but it's actually accessible in multiple various ways.
Perfect. Thank you. I mean, I wanted to just throw it out there also like developer now great resource We have all of our VC chat buys where people screen share all the time in our building and I'm developer now actually has a bunch of hackathons also going on at the same time
time with this one. And so if you're a developer that we're always looking for people that are learning and need support and there's going to be tons of developer now members that are going to be hacking for this hackathon. So pop into our discord if you're looking for support.
Poppability is probably the number one screen share in developer Dow and he loves just to code and hack together. If you're building with this and you're looking for that kind of support to feel free to use developer Dow as another resource.
I'm going to go ahead and chime in. I'm also a victim of the Twitter naming system. Everybody knows me as Billie Gidzy on Discord. But I mean, for anybody listening, it's kind of intimidating to do a hackathon. I've totally been there. And if someone that
Says I'm not going to do another hackathon again for another two weeks ends up doing another hackathon I think they're great experiences because one you learn and you stack and you're just kind of leveling up But then when you kind of go in either cold shoulder with the team like you start learning more people like learning about more people and more daps and
you make those connections. Like, it consensus is happening in the end of August, I'm sorry, August, April, and I'm meeting up somebody that I did a hackathon with, you know, a month ago, and we're making that real, you know, real life connection. And so like, you just never know who you're going to team up with and a hackathon. You never
know what you're going to learn. The hackathons I thought I was going to win, I lost, and the hackathons I thought I had zero chance, I ended up winning something. So like it's just you just never know unless you try. So definitely anybody that's feeling intimidated, you pick up something even if you don't finish it, just try. That's kind of like my saying on it.
I love the inspiration, Billy, I love the inspiration. Any more questions before we close this space?
Yeah, I just wanted to say I sent
message to Axelar and developer Dow. I'll go ahead and follow you. I saw you hosting this space with Axelar and yeah, great running into you guys and all that stuff. Appreciate you. God bless you.
I had a question specifically for Stephen if you're open to taking a speaker to speaker questions. Oh wait.
Do you have any advice for developers who might be contemplating joining a hackathon but have never done so before and aren't sure about the level of competition, maybe how
how much of a project this is going to be, and also whether or not it's worth their time and maybe what they can keep an eye out for, or generally any tips for developers in general.
Sure. I would say that those fears are, I mean, they're definitely rational, but I think in some ways they're unfounded in that hackathons, especially like I love multi-week, like a month-long hackathon because it's much easier to find
time to contribute to do something to try something in a month and it is in like three days right like I mean in person is good as well and there's certain values that are unique there but. You don't have to do a ton of work to come up with a cool idea right where we're not judging you based on like hey is this ready to go to market with the code you've written it's like.
Hey, can you show the principle? Can you show your vision? Can you get everyone excited about the way that you're seeing the problem and the unique things? And so it's definitely not as hard as it might seem before you start or before you give it a try for the first time. The other thing that I will say is that it
It's not just about the prizes, but if you have an idea, you have something that you're really excited about, aligning your own experimentation, your own creativity with hackathon, it basically just like, it can reinforce things you were already
going to do. Through teams, through support, through like, I mean, we talked about sub-sled developer.axleart, discord, all these sorts of things. Like, hackathonistris, a great way to get a bunch of people rally behind you being successful in whatever it is you want to achieve.
I did receive a DM saying he couldn't come up to ask but this is from Kamal. Actually one of our last dev Dow hackathon winners. He had a question about what are the challenges when it comes to building a cross chain payment app and how does axel our solve it?
So obviously there's complexity of interacting with the fixes and things like that. But one of the things that I'm seeing is that new primitives are kind of emerging. So for example, there's a team that's building on top of XOR called Squid where they have an SDK for cross chain swaps.
You could theoretically if you wanted to plug in a payment system into like whatever you're selling with it's an NFT marketplace whether that is like real world like assets or like physical objects you could plug into an SDK like squids and then like whatever payment
whatever assets someone wants to pay in, you could then transfer it. We're seeing more and more of these primitives pop up that make some of these harder problems easier. But I think some of the innovation comes from solving the problem in a unique way that users are
actually any care about and they like helps them in some way. And then the other thing that is really just like thinking interesting, right? Like we have all these different functions we have prayed off and a lot of folks right now do it as an afterthought. They're like, okay, I'm going to ship on one chain. I'm going to be successful there. And now I'm going to go try me a 15 fanes.
But if you start thinking that way from day one where you're like, "Hey, how do I be entertained from day one? What are the properties of different blockchains that I want to be on in order to benefit my users and to be where they are or to access liquidity when I need it?" All those sorts of things I think are big helps.
Did that answer the question? I may not have hit it on the head there. I'm hoping so. I haven't got a message back so hopefully that answered his question.
And then just verifying another DMI God for the link for a flipside crypto discord. Has anybody else checked to see if that's working because I have one person that can't join it just yet?
I will double check that as soon as I get the opportunity. What I can do as well is all tweeted out from our account and then pin it again as soon as I get a chance. I also, as I'm doing that though, wanted to call out another pin tweet that I just put up
there, which is that even if you're not a developer, if you're in this space and you're just interested listening in about the inter-train and trying to figure out the value there, if you know any developers that you might want to refer for something like this, we do have a referral bonus open.
So if you shoot friends this fscrypto.co/hacklink in that pin tweet, all they have to do is drop your Discord handle or Twitter handle in the sign up form. And then once they complete the hackathon, you will get $50 worth of axles.
token which is a super great asset to have. That's not financial advice. That's just my personal opinion. So yeah, just be sure to check that out even if you don't personally code. And if you know anybody that does, definitely going to be a big help there for them. Now I will
to work on that discord link. Perfect. Thank you. I had a question that came in the DM, is there going to be any starter amount of money that's going to give, like you said, that token that is great, not investment, but a great token to own? Like, well, people need to have that token to deploy.
From my perspective, you could do everything on test. You don't need any real assets to build up really compelling app.
Obviously, being on mainnet is more impressive, but then generally the cost are really dependent on the chains that you're on, not on X-Lark as you eat. One of the cool things about our message passing is you can pay in the source chain for an entire cross-chain.
So if you're sending a message from Polygon to AdVelange, you can pay in Maddick on Polygon or the Polygon side of it, the exercise side of it, and the AdVelange side of it. You can pay on the sort of pain for all the steps.
Perfect, that answered the question.
All right, if we have no more questions, there's been a boatload of pin tweets that have tons of information, but feel free to follow the sponsors on their Twitter pages to keep in loop.
Developer that will have tons of small little mini threads open up in our discord and if you're looking for just general like a team to form there's tons of depth down members That are looking for team members right now in our discord. So come drop in
Thank you everyone. No problem. Take care.