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FlixTalk #86 Community Updates ft. @rhinostake 🦏 | World NFT Day ✨
Recorded: Sept. 20, 2023 Duration: 1:48:49Space Recording
Full Transcription
Hello, good evening, good morning, good afternoon everyone from the fanatics from various time
zones.
Welcome to FlixTalk86.
We'll be, of course, discussing some amazing community updates and happy World NFT Day to
everyone.
Thanks, Abraham, Tari Graves, of course, members of the Fanatics and Flix crew.
I think it's a good time to get started, Liam.
Over to you.
Thanks, Jason.
Thanks, Jason.
How are you doing yourself today?
How are you doing well?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Pretty good.
Pretty good.
Yeah.
Awesome stuff.
I'm doing good here as well.
Thanks.
The weather's a bit rubbish here in the UK today.
But yeah, hopefully most of you listening have got better weather than we do here.
And thanks all for joining for FlixTalk86.
And happy World NFT Day.
I'm wondering, actually, like, who decides which day of the year is NFT Day?
Do you know Chetan or is your guess as good as mine?
I think this is, this is like the second or third year for this thing.
There is an international NFTday.org website.
And from there, I got to know.
I think Chetan's the one who sort of, like, told me about it.
And apparently they are doing, like, activations all around the world today.
And especially Omniflex is partnering with them.
I think one organization as well to do, like, a live event of sorts where we can reach out to creators.
I think more will be discussed on that.
And Chetan will be coming and sharing, like, you know, details about that.
But yeah, I think I saw it on that website.
And yeah, from there is, like, I think where I got the detail, more details about it.
And it's, like, basically like a worldwide celebration of sorts.
It's fairly new, though, but yeah.
Yeah, fantastic.
I mean, shout out to all of the NFT creators and Omniflex.
This is your day as World NFT Day.
So awesome stuff.
So, yeah, I guess we're ready to get started.
Obviously, a few more people will still be coming to join the space as we go.
So quick shout out to Rhino State.
How are you guys doing today?
If you're there on the mic, I hope you're doing well.
I'm here.
Hey, Liam.
Thanks.
And hopefully you guys can hear me okay.
Yeah, crystal clear.
Yeah, things are great.
Thanks for having us on.
And yeah, looking forward to this conversation.
Yeah, amazing.
Looking forward to getting some insights from you guys on everything Rhino State is doing as a validator and your involvement in Omniflex.
We will get Chetan to speak first.
So for those of you just joining the space, once again, you know, welcome to Flix Talk 86.
Big shout out to everyone wherever you are in the world and a huge shout out to everyone, you know, involved in the Omniflex network.
So that's the Flix crew, the fanatics, people like Chetan, Jaya, Chetan hosting the space on the Omniflex account and all of the creators and node hosts and listeners.
Carla Grades, big shout out to you.
Hiroyo, big shout out to you.
Super as well.
So, yeah, it is World NFC Day, so we will be discussing that shortly.
I believe, actually, Chetan, you've got some stuff to share with us around that.
So would you like to do your community updates?
And also, how are you personally doing today?
Hey, Liam, I'm doing, if you want me to be frank, it's been quite, you know, even full week for all of us here at Omniflex.
And I'm kind of getting my head around things.
It took, like, you know, a day off because we had, like, crazy things going on here.
And, yes, all set up.
Yeah, as Chetan was rightly mentioned just before some time, we're also doing, you know, a celebration for World NFT Day with the Indian community of NFT artists called Scholars of India and Web3 Assam.
Assam is a state in India.
So these guys have planned up a day of activities for all the students, teaching them about NFTs, the blockchain, and, you know, all the NFTs of different creators of India have been shown across the state in different billboards today.
And Omniflex creators were also part of it, would be able to share more pictures about it later once the event comes to an end.
So right now, the event is happening in the eastern part of India, where it's a beautiful state called Assam.
And things are happening over there.
And we also had TEDx event happened on last Sunday, where people claimed, if you can just, it was, it was the first event, I would say, where we had given ticket NFTs.
We have actually given for different events as well, but it was more like, you know, proof of participation or attendance kind of thing.
But these were like ticket NFTs and with ticket NFTs, there were some sponsors who have also dropped some sponsor NFTs, which included some vouchers, etc.
As well as NFT, you know, these vouchers were NFTs to all the ticket holders.
So, yeah, quite an eventful week.
We have got some amazing collections launched.
And, yeah, I would say quite an eventful week we had.
Yeah, awesome stuff there, Chetan.
Thanks for sharing those updates.
Liam, I'm sorry.
Can I just go ahead and also give a short update on the collections as well?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Please go ahead.
Sure.
So, we had a collection by YieldMoss team.
They initially dropped a few NFTs, you know, a couple of weeks back to their community.
And now they have dropped a mint pass using campaigns to all those people who have claimed the initial YieldMoss NFT.
Now, all those people who have got the mint pass would be able to participate in the collection launch very soon.
And then, as I mentioned, we had TEDx sponsors drop their NFTs.
We had Goons, which is an NGO who has dropped their NFTs.
We had something called as Good Gum, which is a chewing gum brand.
And this brand has dropped 20% off vouchers as NFTs to all the ticket holders.
We have another sponsor called as Abibus, which is a bus service here in India.
You know, you can just book these buses online and travel to different places.
So, these buses have dropped NFTs, NFT vouchers, which gave them 500 rupees off on the vouchers.
Then, we had a collection called as Ghosh.
We had another collection called as E-Propaganda.
Then, we had Mauwe Bokehs.
And talking about interactive videos, we had Leonur Cryptoman's official channel getting launched.
And they did some beautiful, you know, we keep talking about how interactive videos can be useful in governance proposals.
So, they gave, you know, kind of example how interactive videos can be, you know, used, you know, with interactive video.
In future, you'd be able to participate in governance proposals as well.
So, they showed an example for all of those, how it can be done.
And then, we had nice animations, beach girls, and different wonderful collections.
And yes, interactive videos are also going on in a good pace.
We are getting a lot of influencers of Cosmos ecosystem, the blockchains, coming on to interactive video on Netflix TV and showcasing their content on Netflix TV.
So, yeah, that's it from my end.
Thank you so much, Liam.
Yeah, which out of those are, like, the most interesting for you?
Just curious if there's, like, anyone's there that really, like, appealed to you personally?
Well, I can say, currently, I am very much looking forward to Jacob's channel.
Jacob is, we were in talks with Jacob.
So, he has already started putting some content and, you know, Jacob's notional team is, you know, coming on board very soon with interactive videos.
And there are conversations going on with a lot of channels.
Yeah, in fact, auspices as well.
Yes, we would be able to, you know, share the details one after other very soon.
Yeah, thanks.
Thanks, Jason.
And, yeah, some of those seem quite interesting to me.
I mean, it's amazing as well.
You have, like, the local NFTs, you know, just for things like the bus services and the GoodGum NFT vouchers.
Like, that's really cool to see those actually, like, real-world applications for NFTs.
Yeah, in fact, you know, this is what we wanted to do, that too, for an event like TEDx, where it almost had attendees around 1,200 attendees, 1,200 to 1,500 attendees this time.
And almost, like, 50% of the attendees claimed their NFTs and a few of the attendees claimed their vouchers as well.
So, yeah, the attendees were a mix of Web2 and Web3 people.
But, you know, we were able to make them understand, make them onboard to the Cosmos ecosystem and also give a perspective to the sponsors as well.
You know, you don't have to, telling the sponsors, like, you know, you don't have to maintain any, you know, initially the sponsors thought to, you know, maintain an Excel sheet, write down their names, write down their email addresses and everything.
We just told, hey, you know, you have these NFTs and just click off a button, you'll get all these details.
And it is all, you don't have to, you know, if somebody asks you, how did you choose the winner?
You don't have to explain them because it's all in a proper, you know, in a proper way and in a very fair way.
And all the transactions are there on blockchain.
So, that's what, that was something really cool.
We also, you know, we also tried for something else.
We also tried for running a contest, but somehow that couldn't happen.
But, yes, looking forward for more and more things.
We are kind of very closely associated with TED Talks here in India and doing a lot of stuff with them.
Yeah.
Yeah, I wonder if anyone got a chance to speak with like the people on the ground, you know,
like those Web2 people that are also part of the people receiving the NFTs or the vouchers.
Like, did anyone get to speak with them and gauge like their perception of NFTs or anything?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Our entire team was present on the ground talking to these people, talking to the attendees and explaining to them.
Yeah.
A few people had an understanding of what NFTs are, what blockchain is.
A few people had no clue about what they were getting into.
But, you know, the whole, they were looking very much interested and they could understand the whole, you know,
the blockchain process, you know, and, you know, the whole decentralization thing, the whole blockchain process,
the whole transaction being very transparent and everything.
And the kind of feedback which we got from the crowd and also the organizers were wonderful.
And yes, to answer your question, our entire team, including the fanatics,
were there on ground to answer these questions of different people.
Awesome.
Maybe I'll ask Sisla in a minute when he comes up as a speaker if he had any insights from that.
But it's really cool that you were on the ground.
And, you know, what I think is really valuable about that is just chatting to, like, everyday people,
because it's so easy to kind of get lost in the space, right?
Like the, like, everyone here where, like, people who are involved in blockchain and NFTs,
all with different levels of understanding, more understanding in certain sectors than others.
But, like, I find it's quite hard, like, quite easy, sorry, to get, like, detached almost from the real world, right?
Like, like, sometimes I find myself, like, chatting with friends or family.
And sometimes I'm like, ah, should I even explain crypto to these people?
And it's because I don't know how to talk to these people anymore, right?
Because I've been so entrenched in, like, the Web3 space.
So, yeah, I think it's really valuable, Jason, that you can speak with these everyday people
and try and level with them in some way.
Exactly. You know, you know, while you were saying this, I remember Daya saying this, you know, our founder, Daya,
who is also there in the space, was saying this at the event of TEDx.
You know, the Cosmoverse crowd is entirely different.
They know, you know, what we are, what are we building, what we are talking about.
They know NFTs, they know blockchain.
But the TED Talks crowd was, you know, like a plain slate.
You know, the kind of questions they were putting to us, the kind of answers we were telling them,
the kind of, the way we were explaining them, not just gave a perspective to them,
but also improved our perspective, improved our way of explaining things to them.
And, you know, I don't know how many of you understand, you know, if you are from the Indian subcontinent,
there is, you know, there's a bank-to-bank payment method, which is called as UPI payment,
and there is an escrow payment method.
So, in another conference, which we had a day before, where Sisla was a panelist,
he was explaining the crowd, how IBC works and giving them example of, you know,
the UPI payments and the escrow payments and everything.
So, yes, coming to the point, what I'm trying to say, this kind of events also improve our perspective
and the way we explain them, we get different ideas to share people and make them understand in a simpler way.
It is also developing our perspective towards the subject.
Manny, how are you doing, man? Please go ahead.
Yeah, so, hi, Liam. Hi, community. I'm doing very good.
So, yeah, as Chetan was referring to, I mean, these events happen in Hyderabad.
Like, I also attended an event, especially first, like, the Saturday event,
like, which Sisla is one of the panel members in the discussion about the interoperability.
So, like, I mean, like, we went to the IIIT Hyderabad, one of the premier college in Hyderabad.
So, we see, like, I mean, there are a lot of people who are into tech and software into this,
but very few people are into the blockchain and blockchain ecosystem in general.
But the students are very, like, very eager to know at least, like, what's happening, I mean, like, what exactly is happening and how to, how, like, what things go forward in the sense.
So, that way, like, XLR, I mean, XLR is one of the major ones who organized this.
So, like, so, in the interoperability presentation, which Chetan was referring to, there was a system called UPI in India,
which connects multiple bank accounts, so directly as a protocol.
Like, I mean, he almost likened it to the IBC protocol, which we were, like, directly chains are interacting with each other.
So, there's a one more, one more major example, Sishla was citing, citing as an interoperability that day is, like, Uber and Google Maps.
So, like, Google Maps became interoperable with Uber.
So, if it's not for Google Maps, interoperable, like, what's the point of Uber?
Like, in the sense, like, there's a distance and immediately the ride starts, the Google Maps directly in the Uber app itself.
So, that is an example of the interoperability, which Sishla cited.
I mean, that was a very, very good discussion and very healthy to and fro between the crowd and the panel.
And, like, yeah, and one more, like, and Sunday, as we said, like, we went to the TEDx Hyderabad event,
which is completely a regular crowd.
Like, I mean, 99% of the people don't know anything about blockchain, anything, about anything.
So, we are one of the technical sponsors and we partnered with the TEDx to drop the TEDx ticket NFTs.
And as well as we got the other sponsors who partnered with us.
But, like, yeah, and everyone first who were asking, like, I mean, we have to ask them, like, do you know anything about, like, blockchain or, like, in general?
Like, so, once, I mean, most of the people don't know, then we, then people are asking, what is the benefit of this blockchain?
What is this?
That's it, like.
So, we were giving, I mean, like, we were giving answers to non-technical people and technical people in the way they can understand and how blockchain is incorruptible,
how the blockchain's data is, like, is never going to change, how blockchain is going to fill the trust deficits.
So, these kind of talking points and different, different things.
So, which, like, when talking to them, even, like, we learned that how to effectively tell to the people who are not in the, in the Web3.
So, like, yeah, I mean, if, if tomorrow somebody asked me, like, I would have to, I mean, I would be explaining it even, even better than I explained in the TEDx Hyderabad.
So, that's a part of the process when we are interacting with the people.
So, and today we have the Web3 Assam, like, Web3 Assam is organizing an international NFT day in Gauhati.
So, which is also in a city in Indian province.
So, so, like, in that Omniflix is one of the sponsors, that event is still happening.
So, we'll be waiting for the updates tomorrow and probably in next space we'll update, I'll update about this, them.
Great.
Thank you, sir.
Go ahead.
After you, sir.
After you, sir, please.
No, I was just saying, that's, of course, like, really excited to have those updates,
especially having an activation on World NFT Day, like, you know, doing what we mostly, like, you know, what we stand for,
which is, you know, to empower creators and communities.
So, on this day doing that, just, like, you know, symbolic and also just means much more of sorts.
I would also request if we can get Rhino's take, I think, to just, like, sort of join us here and, like, you know, we can get the discussion started.
We'll be really eager to know more about the team and what they do.
I think, yeah, you already have speaker access.
Hi, Rhino.
How are you guys?
Yeah, sure.
What would you like me to start?
I mean, just, first of all, like, an intro to, because I'm pretty sure there are a lot of OCs in the audience,
but always, like, you know, great to know from the team themselves, like, you know, where you're based out of, how many people are there on the team.
Sure.
Yeah, hi, guys.
My name's Eric.
I'm one of the principals at Rhino.
There's two partners of the group.
I'll walk through our backgrounds a little bit.
We have about two full-time and another three that work in kind of a part-time fashion that help us out from a monitoring and some late-night type of things that follow the sun type of needs.
Both myself and my partner, we've been in the infrastructure security space for over 30 years.
Not to date ourselves a bit, but that's our background.
And so that's kind of where we come from, myself on the infrastructure and kind of enterprise infrastructure and security side.
And then also my partner in the business is 30 years with a pretty large security firm.
And so he's in charge of kind of the pipes and the controls that sit around those pipes that we use.
So we, just a little bit about us, like I said, we started the business in 2021 formally.
We were doing some stuff before that early on, and our real introduction to the Cosmos ecosystem was as a validator first within Osmosis.
And then we moved on to, you know, a lot of other types of things such as Juno and Stargaze and Omniflix and, you know, a lot of other great teams that we've been involved in.
So just a little bit around us from an infrastructure perspective, we run our own stack.
So we have pretty large infrastructure that sits in two data centers in the U.S.
Both myself and my partner are based out of the U.S. and the East Coast.
So we have two separate data centers that we run our own hardware in, and then we use a ton of cloud services for either signing nodes that exist within to support those two, or RPC or relayers and other types of things that we do that might be throughout Europe and Asia.
So, yeah, I'll take a break there and see if there's any questions on that first, and I can talk a little bit more about what we do outside of validators and those types of things.
Yeah, Liam, if you have any questions.
First of all, thank you for the intro.
Of course, like, you know, I've got to see on the website that you guys have, like, are distributed across so many chains and so many more to come, actually, since you are into, like, you know, POS chains.
And, of course, like, congratulations.
And I hope, like, you know, you, I know, Stake gets to be on more and more projects.
Liam, any questions you want to get here?
Yeah, just a quick one.
What was your name?
Sorry.
Sorry, Liam, it's Eric.
Eric.
Yeah, cool.
That was actually my main question.
I'm guessing are you, like, public, is that in public information, like, as to who you are?
Yeah.
Are you docs, basically?
Yeah, yeah, it's okay.
I also, I'm also a co-host on a podcast called Game of Nodes.
If you guys are familiar with that, CISL has been on it a few times.
And so we do a lot of, it's been going for, geez, I think this is, we have one tonight, which I think is our 80th episode.
And they're about 90 minutes each.
So it's been going for coming on a year and three quarters, I guess, which has been a lot of fun.
We bring a lot of different teams on, both founders and other validators and a lot of community folks and those types of things.
So we talk a lot about just, like, running operations, and we talk a bit around Cosmos projects and, you know, new test nets and, like, all sorts of, I mean, we're all over the place.
Like, it's a really fun podcast.
You guys should check it out as well.
So, yeah, I'm a bit doxed from that perspective.
Definitely.
Definitely.
I mean, how is the podcast?
Like, what are the metrics and stuff?
It's awesome that you do it, by the way.
I respect it a lot.
It's great.
Actually, we do, on YouTube, it's pretty small because it's, like, we do it live.
So it's 2100 UTC every Wednesday.
And we've been, I think we haven't missed a week.
We might have missed one in there when Eat Denver was going on this year.
But, by the way, I don't think we've tried not to miss a week with it.
We have a pretty consistent crew that shows up weekly.
And so shout out to those folks that show up every week.
And then from a podcast perspective, when we publish those episodes, it's growing actually pretty decent.
And so it's a long-form type of thing, right?
90 minutes is 90 minutes.
But we have a lot of fun with it.
And so, you know, I think we have probably about 500, 600 people that listen every week that download new episodes.
And it's starting to grow a little bit as well.
So that's been a lot of fun.
And honestly, we do it more for us.
It becomes more of a, it's more of a soothing kind of method every week to just decompress off of either operations or, you know, crypto-specific things or what's going on in the industry and things like that.
So it's been a lot of fun.
And then just in the last few months, we have, Rama has been, if you guys are familiar with Rama, has been providing some good ecosystem news.
And he was on last week to talk a bunch of those types of things.
He's kind of giving us some good topics about what's going on, both within the Cosmos and also without.
So some of the, all of us, I think, on this podcast and obviously a lot of the Cosmos validators are diversifying a bit, both in terms of, I would say, chains that are, quote, unquote, Cosmos chains, but are, and are using Tendermint, but don't necessarily kind of fit into the, I don't know, like the larger Cosmos ecosystem, if you will.
Like they're basically taking advantage of the tool set, but maybe not participating as much in, in some of the, you know, ecosystem of a million chains idea.
And also outside of that.
So new L1s that are launched like Sui or Aptos or, you know, other ones that are coming.
So we're starting to talk a little bit more about those as well.
But, but again, it's all, they're all very similar in terms of nature, just around how to be able to manage the stuff at scale and, and, you know, the quality of the teams behind them and, and all those types of things.
So it's been, it's been a lot of fun, Liam.
That's, that's pretty cool.
By the way, for people who have not checked it out or are new to it as much as I am, the 80th episode is scheduled for tomorrow.
And you can go on the YouTube and say, well, actually, it depends on where you are, I guess.
Yeah, it's, it's 2100 UTC Wednesday.
So it is, it is today-ish.
Okay.
Depending on where you are in UTC time.
But again, in the, basically five and a half hours.
Yeah.
Five and a half.
Oh, yeah.
No, it's later than that.
Yeah.
It's like seven and a half hours from now, something like that.
Seven and a half.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
Mm-hmm.
But if you're, if you're up, then you know where to go.
That's right.
Yeah.
Depends on where you are.
Or, or if you go to, if you do a search for Game of Notes on Twitter or on YouTube or something,
you'll find that and it'll give you a link to, to our RSS feed.
But we're on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and everything else.
So we're on every single, uh, podcast delivery network.
So they can go check it out.
Um, and, uh, yeah, but you can hop in any point.
There's, there's, it's, uh, there's some, there's some good episodes back in there, back
in like the Juno Prop 16 days, um, and things like that.
Uh, we went through all that together.
So that was a ton of fun.
Um, so yeah, I would, I would check it out.
We, it's, it's very, um, it's not really an alpha based podcast.
Like we do not really show, um, chains and things like that.
We take a pretty realistic approach around what's going on and, and, um, and, uh, and
just kind of the state of the ecosystem overall.
And just our viewpoint is, as groups that are heavily invested, um, both in Cosmos and
in other chains.
So it's, uh, it's pretty fun.
That's, that's great.
I think.
Yeah.
I actually have one more question because, uh, I saw, uh, like considering the name
Rhino Steak and that you guys also have, uh, a fundraiser or a thing that you do called
Rhino Gifts.
I wanted to know more about that because that just sounds very fascinating.
Yeah, we, we, we, we kind of, uh, we started that idea, um, really before the, the crypto
winner here, winner here, but our goal, um, was what we really wanted to do is we wanted
to take and create a fund and a set of dollars that would grow, um, based off of the high
APR of chains in the Cosmo.
So as, um, back in 2021 and early 2022 is when we really started talking about it.
And what we really wanted to do was create, um, a staking pool and we would take a portion
of, of our commissions and, and basically restake them.
It could be to us.
And most of this right now sticks back to us, but it could be to anybody.
Um, anybody that, that we felt was a validator that, um, had, um, that was also either like
we talked about wind power or, or, um, you know, other validators that, that be able to
provide something back, um, to any, to any different group.
Um, so, but the idea was that we were going to stake that again and then allow that wallet
to grow.
And as that wallet grew, we would take a hundred percent of the rewards every month and then
be able to donate that.
So the idea was that we wanted to, honestly, what we wanted to really create was we wanted
to create a, a fund that was worth, you know, uh, three, four or $500,000 USD, and then be
able to get to a point where we could pull $20,000 or $15,000 or $10,000 worth of rewards
every month and be able to donate that how we wanted to do that.
And so we want to take advantage of the APR of the ecosystem and the growth and be able
to do something.
And then kind of the crypto winner got in the way of that.
So it hasn't really grown the way we wanted to.
The rewards haven't been there.
Um, it was really meant to be Cosmos based.
And so, uh, we haven't pulled any things out.
We haven't, I think we haven't done one since like maybe July.
Um, and so when they're not big enough, we really haven't done that.
And then lately we've been taking rewards from other ecosystems like Aptos and just throwing
an extra grand or something in there into those, into those types of things.
So right now that reward goes to, um, uh, there's an animal specific fund that really
is just a, um, all it is, is I think of it as a, um, uh, an address that we sent to that
is done by the giving block.
And then the giving block, um, basically converts that, um, either into the, the, the, um, fiat
of the organization that it goes to, or, or a lot of those organizations will take crypto
as well.
And so right now it goes through really a whole bunch of different organizations within
there.
And I have them listed on the Rhino Gibbs page on our website at rhinosteak.com, uh, but
both rhino based type of things, which were, which are obviously, um, big fans of as well
as other types of, uh, animal rescues and, um, ocean based type things.
There's a whole bunch of things that it goes through.
And so the numbers aren't really where we are, but I guess everybody can say that around
and everything, um, but we're just going to keep doing it and we'll hopefully, uh, as
it grows here, um, and as we kind of work our way out of this, um, I'm hoping that it
turns into something that we can, we can, um, that it can be something really unique.
And so we haven't heard anybody else doing this.
Um, obviously people do like weekly or, um, you know, monthly donations and things like
that, but the idea of making it stake-based and like building a fund, um, that could have
a huge amount of value to it and that value can be, we can take advantage of those rewards
and give them away, um, on a, uh, on a monthly basis or something like that was, I thought
we saw something that was pretty unique.
So we're hoping that the market turns around a bit and we can, we can see how it grows over
time.
Okay.
Yeah, that's, but that's really cool because you've been consistently added.
Of course, I understand the crypto winter and bear market effect on that, but it's just,
it's just nice to also associate like a cause and, uh, to like, you know, also do good in
that is, of course, uh, that's really cool.
Yeah, it's all on chain.
So everybody can like look at those, those donations and then, uh, I would look at, I
encourage everybody to look at the giving block as well.
I mean, they take, uh, any sort of, uh, crypto donation, you can kind of gear it towards a
lot of things.
They do things that are very topical.
Um, so maybe for, uh, you know, uh, natural disaster or there's, you know, obviously big things
within Ukraine when, when that was really, uh, kicking off and, you know, there's a lot
of different types of opportunities there.
So it's pretty cool, especially if you have dust or things like that, but later on, you
just want to be able to do something with that.
Um, it's a, it's a good organization.
Um, you can kind of look at the background of that organization also, um, how they, how
they kind of work it.
Um, and it's a 503C here in the U S and so, uh, it is recognized as a, um, um, as a, as a processor
from that perspective.
And so it's all good stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think, I think we are familiar with them.
Um, it's, it's, it's, uh, really cool things.
I'm from a team was sort of like coordinating with them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's really amazing.
Um, yep.
I, so, uh, just like another question because you mentioned about Cosmos and like sort of
navigating through all the chains and projects.
Um, how did you come across like OmniFlix?
And because we've had like a bunch of apps released recently, uh, you know, OmniFlix
market is constantly being upgraded.
Like there's a bunch of new modules, campaigns, and interactive claim.
And even OmniFlix TV, which was like in a recent upgrade.
Um, have you interacted with anything, something that's like sort of, uh, sparked an opportunity
for you to, uh, uh, uh, like, you know, utilize of sorts?
So these, you know, basically a two part question here about how you came across Soundflix
and about the apps.
Yeah.
I'm trying to remember actually where, um, where that came out.
It might've been a game of nodes actually.
I think Cicela came on really early.
I think maybe, uh, with Shane from Stargaze, I think was the first time that he was on.
And that was, geez, I don't even know.
It was, it was way before mainnet launch.
I think it was like early testnet or something similar to that.
Um, and I, you know, I like Cicela immediately.
Uh, we, you know, we, we do, uh, when we get involved in, in projects, we usually try
to get involved in those things very early.
We usually don't come into mainnets that have launched, um, and things like that.
We're usually trying to get involved in very early testnets.
And we try to be able to help, um, in ways that we can around, you know, providing infrastructure
support, or we try to do a lot of automation from a, from a Ansible perspective, or we do
a lot of monitoring and dashboards that we try to give out.
We do it like just things that we can, we can help, uh, from really teams.
We, we try to coordinate, um, and be very clear communicators and testnets.
And, uh, sometimes some teams are new in terms of how to maybe communicate with 75 or a hundred
different validator groups and, and how that communication needs to be structured and, and
those types of things.
And so what we try to do is when we get involved early, we always try to meet the teams and
we try to have conversations with who those individuals are.
And usually, uh, we're not, uh, getting involved in networks because of what that project is.
We're usually getting involved in networks because of who's behind those.
And so when we meet teams and we understand who's involved in those.
Um, and when we, um, uh, when we get to know the people that are behind them and kind of
understand what their motivations are, um, and how, uh, what they're willing to do to
make it successful, um, what their overall strategy is.
And you kind of get a good gauge of, of those types of teams.
And I met Sysla, I think originally, I think it was on Game of Thrones maybe first.
Uh, and then we talked after that and, you know, like I know there's a lot of great people
within the OmniFlix team, but I, I, uh, I really enjoyed, uh, him right off the bat and
really understood the passion.
And I saw the vision and I saw, you know, um, all the things that, that make this, I think
one of the hardest working teams in the cosmos.
Um, and so that was really how I got involved in it.
Um, and then, you know, we've, I think these, we, we ran, uh, multiple different test nets
early on.
And then mainnet was, I think we ran mainnet for what, like almost a year before, uh, really
started bringing users on, um, something like that, maybe nine months, something like that.
Uh, and it was great.
Like we have no issues with that.
Like we've been running OmniFlix notes for, it feels like a very long time and, um, and we're
happy to do so.
And we'll, honestly, we'd like to do more, uh, cause it's, you know, we always like to
be able to be able to help this team up any way we can.
And so, um, and so what we, so like I said before, like we try to, that's an area that
we try to provide, what we do very poorly of is market.
We're awful marketers.
And so we, we don't really market too much to delegations.
Uh, we don't really market too much in terms of Twitter.
You can see our Twitter is like pretty quiet.
That's just not who we are.
Like we, we, I think we work better, um, in smaller groups, both with teams.
Or with, um, uh, with institutions, uh, and with those types of groups where we can have
more of a one-on-one relationship with.
And so we, we use a lot of stuff within the OmniFlix universe and like, and those types
of things, but we, we haven't yet used those tools to our advantage.
Like we haven't used those tools, um, even with like some of the original NFT launches
and those types of things.
That's not us.
That's not on the OmniFlix team.
That's just not us.
And it's just been a matter of time and, and focus to, to take better advantage of it.
And so it's something I hope we can do more of, um, or start to do much more of, um, coming
forward here, but, um, but we've always been so impressed with like the quality of the,
the delivery, um, and the communication and those types of things.
So I'm, I'm, you know, I'm really hoping that, uh, that it gets more eyeballs.
And I think here with the, with the metamask snap type of areas, I think that's going to
create, you know, some really good opportunities to bring in the whole new user set, uh, into
the Cosmos, um, same thing with the Noble launch and those types of things.
I think it's, these are big on roads and I'm, I think teams like OmniFlix are going to benefit
greatly from that.
So I'm excited to see kind of where this goes going forward.
That's, that's, uh, amazing.
First of all, thank you for the kind words.
And, uh, of course, I think, uh, just always a pleasure working with amazing, like, you know,
validators and builders like you.
Um, I think, uh, yeah, I've got my questions in Liam.
Sure.
Would you like to sort of, uh, like have any questions?
I'm pretty sure the Confident and Guru team, of course, would have some fascinating questions
to get more insights here.
Yeah, I have a few questions, but I think Tata Grades, um, can speak first.
I know they've been speaker for a while.
So, um, yeah, Tata Grades, please go ahead.
Uh, thank you, Liam.
Hi guys.
So yeah, I have a question for the guests from Rhino.
Uh, yeah.
Yeah.
From the perspective of a creator, there's something that has been going around in my mind for a
while, which is, uh, one of the ways in which a project like an NFT project like ours could
find funding, uh, from different venues.
And one of them, well, I was thinking, it's like, oh, how about like getting involved in
some kind of staking?
But after, yeah, I watched some of your, um, videos on YouTube and I see you guys are like
a bare metal, right?
Is that the term?
Bare metal that you do your own thing?
Yeah.
Okay.
And yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so I'm like, okay, but if we are not developers, we don't have the equipment.
How can, even if that is a good idea, you know, I would like you to hear your opinion
on this, do you, first of all, do you think it's a good idea that, uh, project like a
NFT creator collection, uh, gets involved in the, let's call it a business of staking.
And if it is a good idea, how would you approach it from the point of view of somebody who is
not a developer?
Would you say to associate with somebody who has a infrastructure or use those that are
on the cloud that I heard of that a lot of people criticize because it's not very
decentralized?
What's your take on this?
Boy, that's a really good question.
Um, so, uh, I'm a bit torn with this.
Um, the, the, the one challenge I think with distributed POS is that, um, sometimes validators,
um, become more marketing than they become infrastructure.
And so nothing against those, but you have, uh, they're working towards delegate, uh, kind
of visibility.
And so people buy an NFT project or they listen to somebody on YouTube and know, therefore
that's who I'm going to delegate with.
Right.
Um, and that, that's fine.
I think there's other metrics that out there as well in terms of security and in terms of
decentralization or in terms of redundancy or other types of things that are also extremely
important.
Um, there are a lot of teams and even in the Stargate side, I think like, uh, I think the,
the, the bad kids team has a validator now.
Um, and so I think these groups that, that do that, um, probably work with the node operator
of some sort.
So they call that like a white label.
Um, there are good tools out there now, especially within the Cosmos to do white labeling where,
um, there's a, there's a big issue with the idea of having a civil, which is that you have
a validator that's running multiple different nodes.
And so, uh, it's not very obvious and when that's not obvious, the idea is that the challenge
is that they could be a governance issue for being able to vote multiple different validators
shares, um, associated to, uh, non-voting shares associated to a specific proposal.
Uh, and that's not great.
Right.
Um, but within the Cosmos, you can have some decent separation between wallet and operations.
So if somebody who owns the wallet that is, uh, responsible for creating that initial
validator, um, um, transaction, uh, the, whoever's running those nodes and the operator, um, never
has access to that wallet and can't do governance and can't pull commissions and those types
of things.
So there's some, there's some, there's some controls in place to be allowed that separation,
which I think is extremely important.
Um, what I would say around, you know, um, you know, it's a, it's an open market.
So if you want to be able to start one up and you have the delegations to be able to
get into the set, um, I think it's, it's your call to be able to do that.
Uh, my only, my only thoughts with that is that I think, um, looking at this and looking
at the software and looking at those types of things, running a node, I think is not
very difficult.
Um, and being able to run a node, I think you have to ask yourself, do I want to run a
node 24, seven, 365 for the next 20 or 25 years?
Um, that is the, that's a bigger question.
Running a node is fine.
Running infrastructure for a very long time that has person, that has individuals, um,
uh, tokens associated to that.
And so if you were a, uh, an operator that might get slashed or other types of things
due to downtime or due to a double sign issue or those types of things, that's taking money
from people.
And so if you're going to commit to being able to reimburse them and have that stress
over associated to those types of things and signing blocks, that is very different
than just running a node.
And so I think sometimes, uh, groups forget about that or the responsibility of that.
Um, and there is some responsibility.
It does create stress and it is something that, um, that, uh, you know, we're not doing
this for months.
We're doing this for a long period.
And as this value comes back, uh, those numbers that could, that could be affected by
operations, um, can get pretty large.
And so, uh, it's just a matter of, of kind of getting over that hump.
Um, so I think running yourself or, you know, kind of getting those skill sets is one thing
and, and using white labels, I mean, there's a, there's a lot of validators to white label.
There is a ton, uh, that, especially the very large ones, um, that might run those for,
um, I don't know, five, 10, 15 different monikers that you might see on specific chains.
And so it's, it is very common, um, and it does happen.
It's just a matter of, you know, of, um, if that's, you know, kind of what the long-term
plan is and, and how do you, how much do you want to complicate things?
Right.
Yeah.
That's exactly what I was asking about the, the, the, the cloud option, because by not
being a very technical or very, uh, well, like, I don't know as much as a developer,
all the intricacies of this.
So I was thinking of the cloud solution as a way to have some stability and avoid a lot
of things that we have seen in the ecosystem.
Like, yeah, I've seen other projects that weren't very careful about something, double
signing.
I don't understand very well the technical things, but I know a lot of people got very
pissed because they lost money on it.
Now, do you think that's close because they had the infrastructure and they didn't know
how to manage it or was it incompetence?
Like when we have seen double signing.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
We have seen, yeah, you've seen two stones before.
We talked a lot about it in game of notes as well.
So, uh, I mean, it's built there as being more of a catch associated to bad behavior.
Um, I think there's never been a tombstone associated to bad behavior.
Everyone has been related to, uh, a mix of a mistake slash incompetence slash something
else.
Like, um, at least in the double sign perspective, somebody's moving a server from X to Y and they
don't take the right precautions and they double sign or usually you see them around chain
halts.
And so when a chain halts, uh, for some sort of reason, maybe a non-determinism type of
structure, um, node operators who don't understand exactly what's going on there might take some
steps where their vote is in, um, but then they delete that vote locally.
And so there are no rebotes.
And so they double sign on a specific block.
That's usually probably more common is during, during really delicate times around halts,
halts or when a chain halts, like that's a time when, um, you have to be very careful
about what you're doing and, and very careful around, um, what steps are being taken.
Um, and so those are usually when, when those types of things happen, uh, the cloud-based
stuff, I don't really know.
I mean, we know, um, we know a lot of, uh, operators who, who do, um, do node operations
for others and, and they have, you know, they have the skill sets to be able to avoid that.
But even saw, like, I think, I forget, uh, there was a pretty large, was it Block Damon?
I think Block Damon double signed on Fmost or something similar to that last year or earlier
this year.
And like, they're a huge, they're a huge organization, but they, they ran some Ansible and they had
some, you know, again, they had, uh, some, some automation going and they were not, you
know, really thinking about what that automation would do and you, and you do a double sign,
right?
Um, so it still can happen to individuals.
It's just a matter of, um, of really understanding the, the, the signing process and what, what's
going on within the chain.
And so it's, it's a, it can be a pretty technical thing, especially in those situations.
Um, but usually in those situations, if you know, not sure what you do, you don't do anything.
And then once the chain is moving, it's a lot, it's a lot less, uh, a lot more difficult
to, to screw something up.
All right.
Thank you very much.
You're welcome.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was just going to say, uh, obviously I've worked with Spitzito and I don't deal with
anything technical at all, by the way.
So, you know, signing blocks and that's not for me, but I think with FMOS, like the reason
why there's more like double signs and stuff is I think it's due to the, um, like the speed
of block production, isn't it?
Like the network, uh, like speed or performance.
And so I think it's much harder to sign blocks quick enough when FMOS goes through like an
upgrade or restarts, like compared to other chains.
And I think that also causes like human error for some, uh, validators, which leads to like
double signs, for example, more often on, on FMOS.
That's how I understand it.
But maybe you can explain that a bit better yourself.
I don't know if the, if the, the, the block time has much to do with it.
I think things happen when things happen a little bit faster.
Um, maybe, maybe that has impact on, on, uh, on the, uh, the amount of time that, that,
uh, that there is to fix a mistake maybe.
Um, but even at six second blocks, it's pretty easy to double sign.
Um, like, especially if you're, you know, if you're moving servers around or whatever,
it's best just to, to miss, uh, to miss blocks.
Honestly, a hundred percent off time or a hundred percent block signage is really not
that important of a metric.
Um, it's meant this network and the idea of these chains are meant to be redundant.
They're meant to have 67% signature.
Anything above that honestly doesn't really matter.
And so, um, it's okay to, in those situations, turn the note off, delete the key, miss 10
minutes of blocks, make sure that you see those red blocks coming across Midscan or something
else, know that you're not signing, start the new validator, right?
Um, and so there's this weird perception around a hundred percent block signing as being, you
know, it's a, it's a quality metric and it doesn't necessarily have to be a quality
metric.
It could be a lot of reasons that, uh, that an operator is choosing to not sign in those
periods, um, and redundancy is good.
And those types of things are healthy for sure.
Cause we just don't want to be woken up in the middle of the night related to problems.
And so we try to architect around that.
Um, but in those situations, when you're doing something that's delicate, that has the ability
to affect, uh, tokens on chain or has the ability to affect, um, your validators, um,
ability to sign, um, the, yeah, it's better to just miss and, and ignore it and, and take
things slowly is really the only, only about, uh, you know, kind of the best advice in those
situations.
So anyway, I actually, uh, yeah, no, no, I was just going to say, I think, um, it's
been a while since obviously state seat was affected.
We had to reimburse all of our delegators, of course.
Um, but yeah, I just remember like, uh, yeah, yeah.
But I just remember like a bunch of validators coming out and saying, Hey, like this has happened
and it sucks, but also it was something to do with like the way FOS ran as a chain that
kind of made these like tombstone events more frequent.
So, um, I think I actually just need to better my understanding of that.
But, but you know, we had like SG one come out and say like, Hey, it's actually because
of the requirements or the pressure, like of, of signing blocks off the restart or something
that caused the issue.
But, uh, yeah, it's not my department.
So I'm not exactly sure why it was trickier on FOS.
Sure.
Yeah, it could be.
Um, so anyway, yeah, I think it's, uh, you know, like we, we try to, um, in our architecture,
what we try to do is, like I said, we run operations out of two separate data centers.
So they're only about 10 miles apart, but they're separated enough, uh, they're separated
from a network perspective.
And so they run off two different, completely different providers.
And so we run a, something called Horcrux, which people might know, or might've heard
of, but it's like a, it's a, it's a, um, a, uh, they call it like a remote signer, but
it's a, basically a, a raft system where you have three different nodes.
We run one in each of our data centers.
We run a third one at a cloud vendor.
Uh, and then those Horcrux nodes, uh, stay in contact and they talk to each other.
And then those Horcrux nodes are responsible for signing blocks.
And so they elect a leader and then that leader signs, um, they use the shards from all different,
uh, all three machines that sign those blocks.
And so, um, the good news about those types of tool sets is numbers, there's some redundancy
there.
So we can have an outage in a data center, which we do.
Um, and still, you know, two of those three can still sign on their own.
Uh, and then we use, you know, other nodes, um, within those VCs or elsewhere, uh, that
are actually keeping up with the chain.
So they keep up with the chain and they send, send something over for the Horcrux structure
to sign and send back.
And so the good news about those types of tools is like these ideas around, you know,
once you get that set up, um, and once you're in that structure, um, it's almost, I think
it's basically impossible to double sign, um, in those situations.
Cause you have, uh, this, uh, kind of wrap signing infrastructure that's responsible for
signing blocks and it doesn't get confused.
It's not worried about the chain state.
Um, it, it, it knows exactly what block it signed.
It has signatures associated, all those types of good things that we, we just talked about
as being challenges, uh, go away.
And so, like I said before, we're trying to build infrastructure that, that we can, um,
that we can, um, not be woken up in the middle of the night with.
And so we can, we can support outages and we can support some hardware failing, which we
get all the time, um, and where and items and those types of things, um, is kind of what
we're trying to be able to be able to provide.
And, um, and that's been, that's been a, you know, there's a lot of great tool sets, you
know, shout out to the Strange Liberty for that tool set.
It's amazing.
Um, even in, even in very fast chains, it works, works quite well.
So it's, we've been really happy with that.
Yeah, I appreciate, um, kind of great.
I'll come to you in a second.
I just wanted to say, like, I appreciate a ton of people listening, um, probably not super
technical and you're probably listening to a lot of this stuff and there's a lot of
words that probably doesn't make sense.
Like, even for me, like most of this conversation is like way over my head.
Like, even though I work for Stakes Eco, like the, the operation of like nodes and info is
like something I think a lot of people don't understand, but for everyone listening, essentially
there's like a ton of different considerations that people like yourselves, like Rhino Steak
and other validators, like actually consider and, you know, when running nodes, it's not easy.
It's like a real philosophical question.
It's like a question that seems like around decentralization, best like practices.
Um, so yeah, a ton of work goes in, in the background to operate these chains, not only
from the teams, but the validators like you as well.
Yeah.
Honestly, it's just a matter of, like I said before, like running a node is really not
difficult.
But when you think about running it for forever, when you think about it, like this is part
of my life now, um, and we're going to support OmniFlix forever, then you look at it and say,
okay, now how do I want to, how are we going to look at this and be able to architect this
to be the most fault tolerant and, um, redundant type of thing as possible?
Um, so we're never, um, we're never in a position where it's a high stress situation.
Like we want to get to a position where, where, um, we have a lot of fault power.
The one thing, the other thing that we do a lot of is we support, um, very large RPC
arrays.
And so RPC is basically like when you have a wallet or when you have a DAP that's being
used in your, it's querying something on a chain, um, things like that.
Um, and it's returning data, you're pushing transactions.
That's basically an RPC.
It's just a node.
It's not a signing node.
It's not a validator.
It's just a node that listens and sends transactions out on a network.
And so we run some very large arrays for another, uh, very large NFC project within, uh, the
Cosmos ecosystem.
We run, uh, well, we used to run nine, but now like six or seven nodes, um, per se, because
you're familiar with say we run, uh, nine global nodes there.
They're all bare metal in three different continents.
Um, they have geo routing and location and all this type of stuff.
So we're trying to be able to make that as redundant as possible.
Um, and I think one of the same type of thing is goes with validators.
Uh, like we never want to be in a position where a user does not get a transaction through
or cannot load an app application.
And to do that at scale for, um, for some of our RPC arrays get, get 10 or 12 billion
requests a month.
Um, and to do that at a, at that high level of rate, um, and have zero downtime, uh, is
really just a matter of thinking long-term around these projects and, and trying to be
able to build as much redundancy as possible.
Um, and we've been pretty successful with that as well.
And so we just taken some of those learnings and you bring it back to the validator side,
um, which are doing frankly, a lot less work, um, than these RPC arrays.
Um, and just trying to find ways to, to, you know, to build something that is, that is, uh,
performant and redundant and reliable, um, and low maintenance is kind of the overall
goal of what we're trying to do.
Performance is super important by the way, especially in, um, I, I, I personally believe like when it
comes to like NFTs specifically in the creator side of things and like, uh, having fun, like
PFTs, like other kind of like fun style, like NFT utilities, it's like so important to have
performance.
Um, cause like my theory is like with financial products, like you can have slightly worse
performance and people will still use it if there's a financial gain to be had, despite
like the degraded performance.
So like when it comes to like NFTs, having fun stories, videos, like they all need to
be like performing extremely well, because if they're not like, you're just losing users
because they're not there to like make money where they can say, Hey, I'll spend an extra
20 minutes on like getting this webpage to work or getting this app to work because I'm
going to make 5k from it.
I'm going to make 500k if I've got a lot more money, like they're more people like using
NFTs, it's much more about the fun and as soon as we have like worse performance, then
uh, fun goes down and people don't use the product.
So yeah, that's why it's really important to have high performance on chains in my opinion,
specifically for NFTs.
Yeah.
And frankly, I mean, honestly, it's a, it's, it's probably a bigger web three challenge
than there's a web two challenge.
Um, because when you, when you have a chain like this and you have, you know, a block
that's being created and transactions going in that block and then you have, you know,
these are not like big, you know, graph QL, well, typically the chain data as it sits on
chain is just a stack of transactions that are sitting on top of each other.
So to be able to bring an NFT site forward and to really look, um, you know, at history
of what I own and, uh, you know, a bid structure associated with those and previous sales and all
those types of stuff, that chain is the source of that.
Um, but it is really, um, you really have to do a lot more work to take that data out
of that chain and kind of build something that looks a little bit more like a database, um,
to be able to use those types of things.
And so, uh, but at the same time, you know, I'm making transactions and I'm updating those
types of things.
So it's a really complex situation, honestly, in a web three world, cause you're kind of paying
for a bit of that immutability, if you will.
Um, and so not anybody can just insert a database transaction, right?
Like it, there's a, there's a signing process that does that, but as I do that, how do I
make sure that data gets updated and now in the UI, all that's updated.
And so there's a, there's, it's pretty complex actually.
I mean, there's a lot of benefit obviously, but, but, um, it's not, uh, it's not a slam
dunk.
There's a, there's a lot of work that goes behind the scenes to, to make like OmniFlix as
performant as it is, which is, you know, it's an extremely fast site.
Um, so yeah, it's pretty cool.
Um, Tyler Grace, do you have a quick question before we move on, um, and get Sysler up to
speed?
Uh, I saw you raise your hand a couple of times.
So yeah, please go ahead.
Yeah, real quick.
So to close the idea, uh, right now, imagine you are a creator, right?
And you're, uh, considering this option.
Would you go for it as a creator that has no background on technology as you do?
Um, imagine you don't know all this stuff.
Would you go for it or you would rather not to?
Uh, um, I would say that, um, it wouldn't be for financial reasons.
So I wouldn't look at it as, Hey, this is a, this is a, um, a way that's like, it's going
to, like, I wouldn't look at from a financial perspective.
If you think it's worthwhile from a marketing side or those types of things, that is up to
you.
Um, I would definitely work with somebody and even if you don't, it doesn't mean you
have to work with that person forever or that group forever, but at least initially I would
use a service or use somebody that you trust to be able to run those notes and somebody
who really knows how to do key management.
So you're still in charge of the wallet that's associated to that validator and not, and not
giving that away, right?
That, that mnemonic is yours.
Um, and then over time you could find ways to be able to bring that in house as you guys
build that skillset if you want to, et cetera, et cetera.
So, um, I wouldn't, I wouldn't look at it from a financial gain perspective.
I would look at it more to say, okay, maybe, and maybe, maybe, you know, honestly, for most,
I would say across all, this is not on Netflix thing, across most of the cosmos, if you have
150 validators, 120 of those are losing money right now, um, in a specific chain.
So if you say, Hey, this is going to cost me a $500 a month to do this, look at it from
that perspective and say, what is the ROI on that?
And what do I, why do I want to be able to do it?
I think that's a smarter way of thinking about it.
Um, because there's costs in terms of the infrastructure, there's costs in terms of the
monitoring, there's costs in terms of like, it just takes time and effort to be able to
do it, which means like there's, there's, there's costs associated to that.
So, so I would look at it from that perspective and then really think around, okay, what's
what, how do I want to, um, how do I want to be able to do this, um, for, for the business
and what's important to me?
You know, why, why is that important to me?
Um, and, um, and those types of things, that's all I would, I would, I would caution to do.
Okay.
Thank you very much for your perspective.
And one quick last question, uh, about the game of notes, the end, what, what's up with
the end?
Like so abrupt, so crazy.
Like, do you guys know when it's going to end or it's just a surprise what's going on
with that?
Uh, we, well, we usually, I think from a very early episode, we try to rug each other, um,
which is kind of a crypto thing.
So we tried to rug each other going in.
So I think the first episode, uh, we were kind of talking about what we were going to
do and try to figure it out.
And the next thing we know, somebody hit record and we were on and we're like, oh shit.
And then at the end, we try to keep it to around 90 minutes.
So we're kind of, everybody's kind of looking at the clock a little bit to see kind of where
we are.
Um, and then somebody, somebody tries to make a really good point and that's when we rug
them.
So, so usually when we usually get to the right, somebody has like a really like something
that's really going to solidify, uh, you know, the whole, the whole, uh, you know, really
the, the, the whole, um, uh, kind of structure around it.
And then, you know, that's it.
So, so yeah, anyway, um,
But who has the finger on the bottom?
Is it Frey?
The Frey?
Or who?
Uh, the Frey does.
And, um, actually the, all four of us can, we all can, it's just a matter of who's going
to be the one.
Usually, usually, honestly, it's a null that hits the button.
I think if he just wants to be done.
Um, so yeah, but no, we have, we have a really good time.
All right.
Thank you, man.
You bet.
Uh, just, uh, please go ahead.
Uh, here, I know, uh, you know, very glad to have you here with us, you know, all the
insights and, uh, you know, being able to like interact with the, you know, Flix fam,
you know, rest of the Omniflix community, you know, feels great, uh, while you're sharing
details about, you know, validation, the technical part, the non-technical part, the advice to
tardigrades, uh, you know, thank you, firstly.
And, uh, yes, like game of, uh, nodes was when we first like had the conversation, but
like, no, for a year and a half before that, I guess, you know, is it really?
Jeez.
It's been a long time, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Been a, been a, been a long time.
True.
And, uh, you know, I have one question, like, which is the Flix prop 16.
I don't know.
Prop 16, you know, usually is probably like a, or, or is probably like a, uh, uh,
like a bad omen across networks.
I'm not sure, but, you know, like there is this prop that, that, uh, proposed to increase
the validator set by five.
Right.
And yeah, yeah.
Like, uh, I did not want to share my thoughts until earlier, but you know, it resonated with,
uh, some of the details of what you just advised tardigrades.
So may please know your thoughts or, you know, can the community know your thoughts?
Yeah.
You stole my question, sis, then.
Was that it?
That was going to be my question.
Go ahead, right there, please.
I want to see if I voted no or abstain.
I think I voted no.
Let me go back and look.
Number one, if anybody's watched, um, uh, yeah, I know I voted abstain, um, which, which
is really rare for me, actually.
I usually don't vote abstain or anything.
I think, I think that was, uh, that was an OmniFlex specific thing.
Usually I would just vote no.
Um, so I, you know, there's, I, my, my comment in my abstain vote, you can see, I'd say
decentralization theater.
Um, and I do think that is probably the case.
Uh, I think that expanding validator sets, um, beyond a certain amount when those percentages
are less than 0.1% of say a signing structure is not really increasing any sort of thing associated
to decentralization.
Um, to, in my eyes, the decentralization is really where is, what's the number of validators
that make into a Nakamoto coefficient, which is the number of validators that equate to
34%.
How many validators need to be missing before the chain halts?
And that number I think should be, if you have a hundred validators, I don't think everybody
should be at one.
That doesn't really make at 1%.
I don't think that really makes sense because you really have no motivation there.
So there has to be a curve, uh, but you want to kind of get, get that Nakamoto up into
that, at least above 10, um, and get where you have at least, you know, maybe, uh, you
know, a 10 or 12 type of validators that get to that Nakamoto structure.
Um, and I think just adding validators, uh, what that does at the backend for people who
don't know, um, those validators are voting.
Um, the, the block is being handed around.
There's a proposer of a block.
It goes to a bunch of individuals, uh, the bunch of different nodes, those nodes get
signed.
Uh, I'm sorry, those nodes sign those blocks that come back.
Um, and we, we package it up, we create it, we have a transaction as all that kind of stuff.
So when you add more nodes in that, you do lower block times or are you, I'm sorry, you
increase them.
Meaning like you do add more time, um, that it takes to, for, for that block to be signed.
And in these situations, it's not a big number, but say a 5.7 second block, it goes to, you
add five more, it goes to 5.8, something like that.
Um, I'm, I'm generalizing in that structure, but for the most part, that's correct.
That the more validators you have in a set, usually the longer that it takes to sign.
And sometimes those block times can increase.
There's ways to get around that.
You can lower timeouts, you can do other types of things.
And that's where you get into change like Edmos that, that Liam was talking about, or you
get into like something like say, uh, that has 300 millisecond block times, um, that
really, you know, getting beyond 36 validators is extremely difficult because, um, the way
that tendermint works, it just takes more and more time.
And so, um, so I vote usually no on these things.
I think once you get to, even if we're not in the set, like, like, I mean, we've been
pushed out of us most as three times and tried to be able to stay in that set.
And I would never say, Hey, they need to add to 150 validators.
So we have a point, I have a set there's really, like I said, at that, at that point, we're
not making any money with that.
And there's no really financial incentive to be able to do that.
So it's really a thing to say, I want to be in that set.
It looks good for me to be in that set.
I think that there is enough great projects that are starting within these, within the
cosmos, um, that there are other chains that are not even filled out in terms of their
whole validator set that have very low type of structures to, to be able to buy into
that.
If you want to be able to do that, go that route.
So I think if for, for people who want to get into this, into the, uh, into the validation
game, there's a lot of great chains that are starting that are looking for very, um, capable
and, um, uh, attentive and, um, uh, performant and engaged individuals who want to be able
to get into those, into those validator sets.
And so when we get involved in new projects that come along, there's always new names
in there and that's great.
I mean, you want to be able to have some of that and whether those groups are involved
in one or two years down the road, you know, we'll see kind of how that, uh, that works
out.
Maybe people lose interest or, you know, they're losing money for two years and they have
finally unbonded.
That's just part of, I think, distributed POF.
Um, but I think just adding, you know, adding spots into an existing chain, I think, um,
is a bit of, if it's a, it's just kind of yelling to centralization into the wind and
it's really not doing anything associated to that, um, in the grand scheme of things,
it's much better to, to kind of work that work with delegators to distribute stake around
and try to focus more on, on, on the Nakamoto and try to look at what the structure is of
the existing validator set.
I think that has a lot more to do to centralization than adding five more validators at less than
0.4% total vote, um, in a set.
So anyway, that's, that's my viewpoint, Cisla.
I, you know, it's the, I think from a, from a project team perspective, like OmniFlix, OmniFlix
is not going to want, like they're not, they're not going to want to come out and say things
like that, um, because obviously they want to be able to support anybody who decides
to put infrastructure towards their chain.
Um, so they're in a tough position to be able to say things like that as an independent
validator, you know, with the auto care.
Um, so I think that's kind of our opinion on that.
Um, and why we've, and here we voted up saying, I mean, honestly, I probably should change
it to no, but, but, um, you know, if, if that's what the, if that's what the validator
set wants, that's great.
Um, and so that's, that's my viewpoint on that.
My other, my other point on this is like, I think this is a, I,
I have such an issue with Cosmos SDK governance.
I think I've said this a thousand times on Game of Notes.
I, I think the system is broken.
Uh, validators should not be voting, non-voting shares.
Um, and because this type of conversation here and like these types of things,
validators are not elected officials.
They should not be elected officials.
We're getting into this Web3 space to get away from elected officials and really
validators voting, non-voting shares turned into that.
And so I think this is better.
Um, maybe as you guys move forward, maybe there's a Dow structure or something
somewhere that where you build specific DAOs and this would be a good smaller group to
make this decision on what the right Nakamoto is and how to be able to attack it versus
just a, uh, uh, you know, SDK governance proposal on chain, but that's a totally different Twitter
space to complain about that.
Um, but that's my, that's my viewpoint.
I just want to add quickly before Sisley, you respond.
Um, I also think it's not the validators fault that they're elected officials either.
Right.
Like we kind of are in a situation where we have to vote, um, a for the community, uh, for
our brand, for like our own perception of like the perception of us for the community.
And we also have to vote sometimes just to get proposals to pass.
So it's kind of like, uh, rock and a hard place, right?
Where like, we have to vote, we're responsible for voting, you know, we need to vote for the
chain to operate and we also need to represent our delegators.
But yeah, if you take the stats that you take Rhino, where it's like, we shouldn't be doing
that.
Um, also understand that we need to do it right now.
Um, like just because it's needed, you know, just because of the way, like you say, the governance
works and the Cosmos chains.
So yeah, no, I understand exactly what you're saying, but I just wanted to like say to everyone
in the space that we kind of have to vote.
It's not like we're all laughing and chuckling, like, ha ha ha, we took your votes.
We're voting with tokens that aren't ours.
It's like we have to.
So it's like a tricky one, but yeah.
We do.
Yeah.
And the other thing, I think that some, like honestly, some, I think it's so, um, prevalent
though, that some, like we had delegators that have asked us to vote specific ways or those
types of things, which is totally fine.
Um, and, um, and we'll send those and, you know, we have a kind of opinion on these types
of things as they go forward.
Um, but some delegators don't even know that they can vote.
Like people don't even some, some people, which I think is really, uh, uh, the, the, the,
the problem with kind of the structure is that it looks so much forward towards that.
But I think some delegators don't even know they can vote.
Um, but if you're staked, you can vote those shares and they, they will vote.
It doesn't have to follow the delegate or the validator or anything else like that.
And please, please do.
I think the way that we get out of this, and Liam is right.
We have to do it now.
The way to get out of this is that you get more individual delegates voting and the more
individual delegates vote, the less importance of a validator vote is, and we get out of the
situation.
Um, so I think, you know, it goes both ways.
I think as a, as a delegate, uh, I think one thing that we do watch is like groups do
watch like the amount of delegate votes versus the validator voting, non-voting shares.
And I think it's important to, to, to vote, even if it's in line with the validator, who
cares to show that you're voting as well, um, on things that are important to you.
And if they're not important to you, ignore them.
Um, I think that's totally fine.
Like upgrades and things like that.
You guys want to vote on, don't vote on them.
Um, but for other types of things, when it comes to community funds or, um, or even
increasing the validator set, or, you know, we have things around registering new assets
or things that are being used that really affect the chain, I, I encourage everyone to
please make your vote known.
And if you're staked on anyone, um, please vote though, share it.
I mean, I should, uh, definitely agree, uh, seeing that as a team that also works with
validators, uh, seeing that as a team that's, uh, building an option, uh, you know, my personal
stance was that, you know, earlier there were, you know, some accusations of influencing the
vote.
So as mentioned, you know, I, uh, shared my opinion a bit later, but at the same time,
you know, those thoughts, uh, like definitely resonate with us and, and, uh, you know, although
we would love for infra, like infra to be decentralized, you know, voting power to be decentralized, this
is not the path in which we'd like to, you know, see this.
Uh, but again, that's definitely a personal opinion and the community has been taking the
decision with the vote ending on September 23rd.
So if you are, uh, a Flix, uh, delegated, if you've staked your Flix tokens, you know,
definitely participate in the Flix prop 16.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah.
I'd also say, uh, Oh, go ahead.
No, please.
I didn't, I didn't know some of the drama behind it.
So you could, so you can come on Game of Nodes and talk about it.
If you like it, if you like it, it's a good outlet.
Yeah.
The curse of prop 16, maybe.
Yeah.
I know.
Yeah.
You should, everyone.
Yeah, exactly.
Maybe you should, everybody should get away from prop 16 numbers to skip it.
It's like a 13th floor in hotels.
You just deal from 15 to 17.
You just skip it completely.
That's funny.
Yeah.
I mean, like even with Juno prop 16, we lost, you know, I'll say, uh, community members
that were angry because of the way, uh, you know, the validator voted on the prop.
So ultimately, you know, yeah, like we are, I mean, in some sense validation, like teams
that are validating have to vote and hence they vote, but otherwise educating delegators
to vote or maybe even some incentives for everyone to vote might not hurt.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I agree.
Government.
I mean, I mean, honestly, the other part of this is like some of this, um, is healthy
because this is a, a new way of thinking about some of these types of areas and, and you have
to go through some, you have to go through some shit, right.
To come out on the other side and, and have some lessons and some learnings.
And boy, what prop 16 was a huge learning, right.
For, I think everyone's involved.
And, um, then the Juno prop 16, not the Omniflex prop 16.
And, uh, I think, you know, this is a stepping stone.
This is the first piece, right.
And I think this created some of the work that like the Dow Dow team is doing.
And, and now I think Juno is going to move to that outstructure and try to get away from
Cosmos SDK.
And we'll see if that works and how that gets structured.
If I have its own issues.
Right.
Um, I think the important piece is that, is that you keep moving forward and you, um, you
don't, everybody doesn't take the necessarily the, the hard line approach on anything, because
I think, you know, uh, teams are trying to figure this out.
The community is trying to figure it out.
I think culture is trying to figure it out.
And, um, you know, it's just going to, it's going to take time and, and people will look,
you know, 10 years from now, you look back and say, what the heck are we doing with this?
And now we haven't, you know, there's a, there's a process that works for everyone.
Um, and it's fair and it's equitable and, you know, it, you know, it does everything we want
it to do, but it's, I think you can't create that in a vacuum.
Right.
I think it has to be, it has to be proven, um, based on time and use, like any sort of
governance structure.
And, um, and I'm, you know, confident that, that I think people's intentions are mostly
in the right way.
And I'm confident that, you know, we'll get there over time.
I think also, by the way, like, um,
the governance structures we see in Cosmos now are pretty standardized across every
chain, right?
Like, uh, the way that, you know, Cosmos SDK chains work, if they have a governance module,
I assume.
I mean, I don't know the exact technicals of it all, but the long story short is every
chain has the same governance, like the same way it works pretty much.
I don't know if anyone's built custom governance yet, but, um, I imagine over time, like every
chain will have different democracies or different styles of democracy.
or governance, uh, just suited to their product need or their business needs or design.
Like a real, like DAO-centric chain will have a lot of community voting and participation
and governance structures, and then other chains that maybe want a more centralizing control or
quicker voting or have like a board of directors, let's say, because it's a web two business
coming in, they'll have a completely different model as well.
So I guess if we're really going to like push governance forward, we just need different
chains to start experimenting with different governance models, right?
Because at the moment it's pretty uniform across Cosmos with the exception of like sub
DAOs being formed in some cases, but generally the way governance works is exactly the same
everywhere in Cosmos.
Yeah, I think, I think you're exactly right.
Yeah.
I think you're right.
Like that every form of governance or every governance structure will fit every chain.
Cause I mean, a lot of chains have like different purposes, right?
Like a Juno or Evmos is kind of a platform, um, for hopefully other, to attract other projects
to build that on and, and to be able to grow, which, which, and they, they're using marketing
dollars.
Um, how many flicks would be different than that?
And so would, you know, um, even, uh, you know, change like say or something somewhere
that is also a platform like they had, they're going to have different governance types of needs.
Um, so behind the scenes have been, uh, one of the, one of the really exciting, uh, changes
that's coming to, to Tendermint is the DYDX, uh, which is, which is planning on kind of
replatforming on the Tendermint side.
And, and they're looking at that as well.
And I've had, we've actually had a lot of nice, good conversations behind the scene because
they have some kind of structure within their governance protocol.
Um, but now as they're moving platforms, they're looking at like, how do we do this, uh,
within the SDK module, or do we look at something like a Dow Dow or how do we use
governators and other types of groups to be able to do that?
And they're being very planful around it, right?
Um, because they have their own needs in terms of, of what should be centralized and what needs
to be community driven, um, or, or however you want to call it, like, um, project driven
or, or community or whatever else.
And so I think you're right.
I think that hopefully you get enough tools in the toolbox to, that, uh, change can kind
of, or that, um, that projects and, and, uh, and platforms can, you know, use what
they need to do to be able to solve the right problems.
I think that's exactly right.
And you know, one of this as well, it's not just like needs and tools.
It's just different philosophies across chains, right?
Like, this is a real deep, like philosophical question, like governance.
We'd have to go into like loads of details today.
Cause I know we've been on space quite a while, but it's really a philosophy, isn't
It's like a philosophical question.
So, uh, I think people will find that lots of different chains do it different in the
longterm, have different philosophies, different groups of people.
And I think a lot of those philosophies are okay, they're different from one another.
So yeah, don't want to get into it too much, but yeah, kind of excited to see that, that
kind of side of things develop.
Yep.
Yep.
Agreed.
Okay.
All right.
Um, so unless there's any other questions specifically for Rhino, should we go on to the engineering
updates with Sisla?
Um, Rhino, obviously huge shout out to you for coming on.
You shared like a ton of insights, by the way, so thank you for that.
And, um, yeah, Sisla, if you've got anything you want to add before we move on, please go
ahead.
No, definitely.
You know, it has been a pleasure, uh, having you with us, Rhino.
And, uh, you know, where can people get in touch with you on Twitter or Discord?
Yeah.
You bet.
Uh, so our website's RhinoStake.com.
There's some links in there in the bottom, uh, for like Telegram, we have this Telegram
group, we have a Discord channel, um, those types of things, um, come watch Game of Nodes.
Uh, you got, you really need to, you can't just listen to one, you gotta get a couple so
you get a feeling of the, of the group at all.
Uh, it's a great behind the scenes, uh, type of look of a whole bunch of different things
that we, that we get on about.
It's things outside of crypto as well and, and just our lives.
Um, so it's, it's a lot of fun.
There's some really great people in there.
I should have mentioned it also on that.
So it is the fray, uh, from Needlecast.
There's a core one Juno member.
Uh, now it's no names from King notes, another great independent validator, uh, based from
Don Unda and, uh, Schulte from Lavender five.
The four of us have been kind of, uh, kind of core here for a while, though we have a lot
of guests on like great guests, like Sisla, um, a lot of other chain members.
And, and other project teams and things like that.
So, uh, encourage you.
That's a great way to get ahold of us as well.
Um, and, uh, yeah, I really appreciate the opportunity guys and, and having us on and
great questions and, uh, yeah, stick with Rhino.
Thanks.
Definitely.
I really enjoy the conversations there.
Even if like, that's when I actually sleep.
So it's almost 3.30 a.m.
My time.
Something like that.
And, uh, even if we like, don't, you know, even if you're not like speakers or talking
there, just the chat, the engagement within the chat is like pretty fun.
And we've had like great guys, you know, that had conversations right in the chat, you
know, even separate conversations while the band is going on.
Yep.
Yep.
For sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We have a, like, we have, like, we have, I think the, you always get like great people
in the chat as well.
Like Cisco shows up a lot and you have, you know, just a lot of founders that show up
in there because I think we, it's, I think our content sometimes geared towards more to
projects, um, and, and node ops and things like that.
And so we had, we had a lot of great people involved that come out and stay on it and, uh,
and basically should talk us in the comments.
So it's always a good time.
That's right.
So Liam, shall we move on to the engineering updates?
Yeah, certainly.
And, uh, I know obviously I hope you stick around still to the end.
Um, but yeah, Sysla, please, uh, go ahead, share some of the updates you have for us this
week.
Definitely.
And I'll keep it as short as possible because, uh, we've been like continuing building, you
know, certain things, uh, that were already in progress.
So the first one being the Cosmos SDK version, you know, 45 is being migrated to version 47.
So we are skipping the 46 version and directly moving to 47 and, uh, you know, yeah, that process
is still ongoing.
Uh, we aim for it to be tested most likely, you know, in the month of October and, uh, hopefully
by, you know, end of the month or, you know, around that time, we should, uh, see this take
effect.
So this is what, uh, you know, is the major focus from a protocol standpoint.
And, uh, there has been work on the media node as well.
The OmniFlix media node.
Uh, and, uh, that is soon power, uh, live streaming, uh, you know, for one event or more.
Um, and, uh, work on that has been going on.
Apart from that, uh, there have been updates to the OmniFlix, uh, TV app.
You should see better rendering of, uh, thumbnails and, uh, some of the responsiveness updates that
we've had for wider screens, not for mobile.
Mobile has been optimized.
You can access OmniFlix.tv on, uh, Leap, uh, browser as well as on desktop and on, like,
uh, wide screens right now, uh, properly rendered.
So if that is from, uh, from an engineering standpoint, we've had, of course, growth in
terms of, you know, we've had, uh, 90X growth with respect to OmniFlix TV since last, uh,
last week or last Wednesday, because that was almost 36 hours of launch or something like
that or 48.
And, uh, thanks to the Flix fanatics for, uh, putting together a campaign, uh, during the
Flix, uh, uh, during the space that we have in the studio space that we have on Fridays.
And this is a good example of how a community can be better engaged with media, uh, than,
say, you know, without, uh, you know, media.
So this is an interesting campaign.
And due to that, like, people went ahead and participated in other interactive videos
as well.
And we've taken suggestions from the community of mostly fanatics, uh, to be able to
able to, like, better present the data, to be able to, you know, better make sure that,
uh, viewers are engaged.
So, yeah, this is an interesting campaign, uh, for those, uh, that, uh, are interested
as a creator, as a publisher, as someone that intends to utilize OmniFlix TV, check out
the Flix fanatics campaign on OmniFlix.tv.
And, uh, yeah, the final update that, uh, from my end is we are working on something extremely
exciting for Cosmos.
Uh, you should probably see that go live in the, yeah, in the next few days.
And, uh, this is primarily around, uh, being able to get an ad, get an ad slot for your project
or, you know, for your, uh, your community right within the Cosmos Livestream.
How that will happen?
The ads will be booked right within the Cosmos portal and it'll be powered by OmniFlix.
So, more details on that in a detailed thread when the actual announcement happens.
But, sorry, but for those of you that are here, yeah, OmniFlix is powering the media buying
experience for the Cosmos Livestream as well.
So, yeah, those conclude my updates, Liam.
Like, I was, I tried to be as quick as possible.
Yeah.
You know, Siswa, we've just had a really great discussion, uh, in this space, I think,
today, you know, speaking a lot about, um, governance, validators, decentralization.
Um, so, yeah, it makes sense to kind of keep the updates shorter.
But with that said, like, there's still a lot of updates there, really.
I know you kept them short, but you said 19x, um, usage of OmniFlix TV, right?
So, I mean, I guess we just have to get 19x every week and then give it like six weeks
and we'll be doing amazing.
That's what we'll be aiming for.
But, uh, you know, definitely bringing on board more creators, communities.
You know, Flix Fanatics right now is a parallel community to what, you know, OmniFlix is.
You know, they have built their own audience, you know, following, uh, across multiple platforms,
not just on Twitter, but on, you know, Zeelee, of course, you know, on Discord and so on and so forth.
So, that has been pretty interesting to watch.
And OmniFlix TV, you know, has been in use by the fanatics for quite some time.
So, you know, their, uh, way of campaigns, the distribution of the information,
you know, all of these, uh, also matter.
Yeah.
Yeah, totally.
I mean, I don't really think I have much more to add myself,
but if anyone else has any thoughts, anything they want to discuss,
or Sisler, if you have anything else, often please go ahead.
Yep.
I'm all good from my end.
Uh, yeah, we are very excited, uh, for the experience that we are following,
uh, for Cosmos this year.
And, uh, we hope it will demonstrate the power or the potential of, uh,
what OmniFlix is building the tech behind it and, uh, the nature of ops around it,
you know, better.
Uh, and, uh, yeah.
Cosmos, we are very excited for Cosmos.
Uh, we will soon, uh, announce the details of the side event,
the FlixFest 23 event.
And this time it will not just be OmniFlix, but, uh, you'll also have protocols, like, uh,
yeah, protocols in the Cosmos ecosystem that'll be, you know, powering the FlixFest.
So, we're very happy for that.
And, uh, you know, more details soon.
And if you're attending Cosmos and if you're a FlixFam member, you know, community member,
you're duping one of, uh, you know, whoever you're talking to from the team and we should
be able to, you know, get you, uh, your passes as well for FlixFest 23.
I'm personally looking forward to Cosmos now.
I think it's only, I mean, for me, it's only like 10, 11, 12 days or something until I'm
traveling to Cosmoverse.
So, um, hope to see some of you there.
Um, yeah, just raise your hand, by the way, if you are attending, it'd be good to get a
gauge if anyone listening is, is, uh, attending Cosmoverse.
Also, Sisla, the ad space, uh, thing you mentioned also seems quite interesting as well.
It was, it was another thought actually of mine.
Um, we've spoken about that a lot off, off, off of, uh, air, so to speak, like just generally,
like how you can better, uh, um, like advertising space for creators and, um, it sounds like what
you're doing with the ad space around, uh, Cosmoverse or the stream, um, it sounds like
that's like the first iteration of what we discussed, right?
Yep, that's right.
Uh, more or less, you know, you'll, uh, yeah, it is a start, uh, in the, in the monetization
aspect, like specifically with respect to ads.
Of course, you know, subscription as an NFT, you know, those can still be worked on, but,
uh, this is a bit different and yeah, this is one step closer to being a full vertical
stack, media stack, you know, for whoever wants to use whichever part of the media Lego
block.
Yeah.
Amazing.
Amazing stuff.
So, um, yeah, super.
I'm really glad you came up as a speaker.
Um, I actually forgot about your segment altogether.
So that was my fault.
Um, but how are you doing today?
And hopefully you've got some good updates for us.
Absolutely.
I do.
Uh, welcome.
Thank you, Liam, for, uh, letting me come on the stage and speak.
Uh, welcome everyone to FlixTalk 86.
Uh, no, first of all, thank you, Sisla, for, uh, your words of appreciation for FlixFanetics.
Uh, no, this, this is definitely only possible because of all the support, which our FlixFan,
our community that gives us and no behind the scenes, whatever me, money, tanker and
Joseph, we, we, you know, keep on, keep on deciding to do.
So I will quickly, of course, uh, go ahead with the sub now activities to updates to, because
we understand that it's already been one and a half hours and everyone probably wants to
go ahead and start their day or probably enjoy the evening.
So, well, we are celebrating international NFT day.
If you would have seen our Twitter page, we have posted, uh, congratulating everyone
on the international NFT day.
And, uh, there has also been a post about how OmniFlix market is, uh, contributing to
the NFT space with the multiple NFTs, multiple tokens, multiple types of NFTs we have and, uh,
how it's easy for anyone to participate, come up with their own collection and, uh, collect
NFTs in any token they have, not just in Cosmos, but there is even a, no, a tweet thread, which
shows you how it's very easy even to use any token you have, even on your centralized
exchange.
So it's Cosmos, I suppose, you know, the, I even, I'm a non-tech guy, but I suppose the
way Cosmos is built, it's really very simple to, uh, transfer tokens between chains and not
do what you want to do.
So that's, that's something which OmniFlix also utilizes, uh, uh, best and, uh, well,
happy international NFT day.
Make sure that whatever NFTs you're collecting today, you are tweeting about that, tagging
OmniFlix and Flix Fanatics and, uh, letting others know about, uh, the power of NFTs.
So next update, I will quickly go ahead and mention that Zili, like, uh, Sisla mentioned,
we have our own community in, in Zili and thanks to them, we have been able to spread
our word.
And now this sprint only has 10 days left.
The current sprint is going to end on 30th of September.
So you still have time, but not a lot of days.
Make sure if you haven't yet participated, come to Zili OmniFlix channel and, uh, try and
do as many questions as possible.
We are now have distributed 200, more than 200 FlixFam batches.
This is something we started on the 1st of September, and this is going to have a lot
of utilities.
I'm going to start with some helpers.
Every month, end of the month, there will be some token rewards or NFT rewards for all
the FlixFam batch owners.
And there is no way you can buy these batches.
The only way is to participate in the, in the activities or campaigns, which FlixFam
does, whether it's a quiz on Saturdays or Sundays, whether it's, uh, asking questions
in our AMA on Monday, or other activities like a Twitter contest we recently had, where
we gave away a thousand Flix tokens to the winner and the top five tweets received FlixFam
batch.
And with that, of course, was not all we did, uh, this Friday, last Friday, I mean, uh,
we had an interactive, uh, video and there was a secret phase, which was mentioned and
more than 500 wallets participated in that.
And each of them will be getting a proof of participation NFT from us.
This will be happening in the next 24 hours.
And now what was interesting was that this Friday, while people were on the space, I mentioned
the secret phase and I said that, no, as soon as the space ends, I'm going to stop the video
for a moment.
And we will see how many people, how many wallets have participated.
And those, everyone got a FlixFam batch.
And there were around about 124 wallets who were eligible.
So this shows that no people were active.
They are loving what they are doing.
They, they were, it was easy for people to immediately go on OmniFlix TV, even the next
version and, uh, participate in the videos, interactive videos.
And that is something, you know, as a, as a community sub-dov, we love to see.
Now, as I mentioned, there will be some alphas.
So the next alpha is that Gilmos is going to be our guest for coming Monday AMA.
It will be hosted by our fanatic tanker.
So make sure that Monday, 1400 hours, you be there on Discord.
It's a text AMA.
And if your question is selected by the guest, you will again be receiving some NFT rewards
as well as FlixFam batch.
More alphas tomorrow, there are, there is, uh, uh, Twitter space by Intel protocol.
And there will be a lot of, uh, projects there and a lot of project founders there, including
CESLA be there.
All I'm going to say is, uh, FlixFanatics are also going to be doing something there.
And, uh, to, if by participating in that Twitter space, you would be eligible for some fungible
as well as non-fungible tokens.
So, you know, lots happening with, within the subdao, within the community and, uh, make
you, you can probably check our marketplace and Omniflix TV and any questions, any suggestions
that I would, anything you want to share, we are available 24 hours a day and seven days
a week on Twitter, Discord, Telegram, whatever you prefer.
So this were the most of the updates I wanted to share.
I wanted to make sure I let everyone know who's on the space and thank everyone for all
the support and love you're giving us.
Super.
I've got a question for you quickly.
Um, what's the website link for people?
Like, imagine you're like a, someone in the space or someone who listens to this and, and
you don't know anything about Zeely or the sprint, like where do you go to get involved
and how do you like sign up?
All right.
So, uh, you know, you can, I suppose what I will do is I was going to tweet that and also
mention it on our Discord and Telegram right now, because I understand that a link might
not be available.
Let's do this.
Now, uh, Liam, you have, you have really mentioned a very important part, which for some reason
might have been Outlook.
So what I'm going to do is I will also make sure that I add that in the Flix Fanatics Twitter
page under the, under the, no bio.
So anyone who would be there would be easily able to, uh, go there on the Omni Flix network
on the Zeely page and participate there.
So I'll make sure whoever is here can in next five minutes, come on over Telegram, Discord
or Telegram, oh sorry, Telegram, Discord or Twitter.
And they will make sure that they will find the page and they can participate there.
Perfect.
And, uh, the second question, uh, Super is if you're a Flix Fanatic, right.
And, uh, you're hearing about all of this stuff, the Flix Fan badges, you're hearing about
like the badges for tweets, you know, the campaigns and there's winners, the sprints, also
like the Yieldmask, uh, AMA, everything you mentioned basically.
Imagine you're like a Flix Fanatic on limited time.
What's like the things you'd make sure you attend out of what you mentioned or what, what
would you like get involved in on limited time if you had to choose like one or two?
Okay.
So Liam, uh, frankly, this, the reason that we started this month, we were very, uh, no,
easy going with, uh, rewarding the badges going forward.
However, it's not going to be that much only the winners on the quiz, only the winners of
our, uh, Zeely quiz, only the winners of our AMA, they will be getting those awards.
I suppose the easiest would be to come on a Monday AMA and ask a question, an interesting
question, because I'm not going to limit the badges there.
If the guest selects one or if the guest selects five questions, each of them will be getting
a reward aid with the Flix Fan batch every week in the, every AMA.
Or if you are probably, you know, like to have fun with the quiz, we even have that, but I
suppose the AMA is the easiest way.
You come, you ask an interesting question.
And if your question is selected by the guest, now, if it's relevant, I have seen most of
them, they really love to select at least three to four questions.
So that is very easy way of getting the badge.
Otherwise you have to earn it.
That's how it's going to be because the rewards I can assure you will not stop.
The plan is to reward the Flix Fan batch owners every month.
So every month they will be getting rewarded and it will only going to get better as the
time goes.
I can assure you that.
So you heard it there first, get down to the AMA.
So that's on Monday, Super, that's right?
That's correct.
Monday, 1400 hours on our Discord server.
And the guest for this time is Yilmos and the host will be Tanka.
Beautiful.
So you get to learn and you get to, I don't want to say earn, but you definitely get a
badge at the very least.
So that sounds like a win-win to me.
Absolutely.
Yes.
So these were the updates I wanted to share.
I'll hand over the stage back to you.
Thanks, Super.
And I hope you're doing well.
It sounds like you're always busy.
So keep up the good work, sir.
And as for moving on, I haven't got any questions, but if there's anyone listening who's a speaker
or who wants to speak and has a question, please raise your hand.
So I'm just going to meet myself for a few seconds.
And if anyone does have anything to add or what to share or say, please go ahead.
All right.
All right.
Fantastic.
So in that case, are we ready to end the space?
What do you reckon?
For sure.
I mean, I should thank Reino once again for, you know, making sure he stayed out during
the entire space and, yeah, sharing all your insights that you have with the Flix fan.
Anytime.
Really enjoyed it.
Thanks, guys, for having me be a part of it.
And just a huge shout out to everyone else who's participated, even just as a listener.
So a huge shout out to Chaitin, who's hosting the space through the Omnifix account.
Chaitin, thanks as always for coming on.
Super.
Same to you, as always.
Reino, actually great chatting with you.
Sounds like you have a lot of interesting thoughts around governance.
I'm like limited in capacity when it comes to political discussions that includes Cosmos
governance, but it's because I get like kind of like fatigue from discussion, but I really
love the discussions that I do have.
So I hope to have more in the future with you.
Anytime, man.
Yeah, for sure.
We've been pretty vocal about it, but again, we're not really pushing anything, just trying
to call out some of the challenges and, you know, okay, we're hopeful for the future
and we know it's going to change.
So it's just a matter of not getting complacent with, with an assistant that we don't think
necessarily works for us.
Yeah, totally understand.
And I just want to give a quick shout out to everyone else listening.
So Sandy, thanks for tuning in as always.
Dea, Korean Concepts, the Seahill of the Times, a big shout out to you.
Farmer, Tangled, Hiroyo, Flip Sanatics, Mr. Fox, Chris, Manny, Dizzle, Henker, John.
So many people.
I've missed a couple of you again.
So I do apologize.
But big shout out to all of you listening, even if I didn't name you specifically.
And we're here to see you at the next Flick Talk, or perhaps I won't see you, but maybe
you'll be seen on other OmniFlicks community events.
Back over to you, hosts, and feel free to earn the space when you're ready.
Thank you, Liam.
Thank you, Rhino, and everyone who joined in to share updates and to patiently hear all
the insights we have.
Of course, Jatin, if you're speaking, we're not able to hear you, unfortunately.
But yeah, I'll do it.
It's clear on my side.
Oh, then it's just me.
It happens.
No worries.
Yeah, no issues.
Anyway, thank you so much, everyone, for joining and for patiently listening to this
discussion.
And please participate in all the activities taking place by, like, in that being run by
Fanatics.
And if you want to build something or want to launch a collection or an interactive video,
or if you have any ideas that you want to take forward with us, do reach out to us.
Thank you for tuning in.
And I wish you a great day ahead.
Closing the space in 3, 2, and 1.
