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FOMO HOUR: Joined by @BEAST_ICO 🦁
Recorded: Aug. 19, 2025 Duration: 1:02:48Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored Ethereum's bullish potential, the resurgence of NFTs like Moonbirds, and strategic partnerships shaping the DeFi landscape. With insights on token launches and market trends, the conversation highlighted a growing optimism in the crypto space.
Full Transcription
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Oh, we got a big one today.
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And in fact, let me see some retweets.
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We're going to give some money away like we always do every single day.
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I see I see all beasts.
I'm just going to also invite you on stage if you want.
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Let me tag Mando. Starting. Bang, bang, boom.
All right, Sims. Kick it, baby. so Thank you. yo yo yo yo yo what up what up good morning good morning gmg
tuesday oh baby tuesday tuesday Tuesday, Tuesday. August 19th, 2025.
Look at that.
Another beautiful day to have a beautiful day.
I got my coast in the house and a special guest right off the bat.
Tyler Mando, ICO Beast.
What's up, y'all?
Good morning.
How y'all doing today?
Oh, shit.
I didn't even see him in here.
Wow.
Gracing us for his presence.
Amazing.
We have like CT royalty in the house right now.
Yeah.
Y'all are too much.
I'm thrilled to be here.
Really appreciate the invite.
And also the intro music.
I haven't heard it in a while.
I forgot how much of a banger it is.
Dude, I got to say, one thing I'm proud of on this show is all the jingles and the songs and all that j6 c6 someone who hasn't missed a single show has been making him first
by the way remember last week guys i was complaining i never had a jingle in four years
hosting this he actually dm me one so dude i'm gonna have to debut at some point maybe sometimes
when i have a hot take i'll just like you you know, when you like laugh at your own jokes, I'll just like start up. The self jingles, you know? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I deserve
a jingle for this take. Yeah, exactly. Like, yeah, I deserve like, yeah, exactly. Like
giving myself like the Obama meme here, like giving himself a medal of that. Anyways, Mando,
how are you doing today? Fantastic, as always.
It's beautiful, huh?
It's beautiful.
It's definitely beautiful.
Tyler, how you doing?
I'm good.
Abstract Tuesdays. We're really making this happen.
Three weeks in a row.
Excited to lean into it.
Hyped to have ICO on.
It's true.
It is an abstract Tuesday.
We got the whole thing going on on Mirad as well for abstract.
So there's a lot going on.
Anyway, it's on the show.
Listen, a little different show.
ICOB's clear to schedule.
I'm sorry if you're the person he canceled his meeting for to call on the show.
But, you know, he can't clear to schedule to be here for the hour.
So we'll talk markets as usual.
But, you know, we'll have ICOB's chime in with us.
We'll do markets.
You know, still a little bit of red, but a little bit ofCO Beast chime in with us. We'll do markets. Still a little bit
of red, but a little bit of bounce. So maybe there is hope after all. Let's do markets. Let's do
Tyler's top 100, but I'm sure we'll chime in here. We've got a lot of stuff to cover with Beast.
And then we will, of course, as usual, give money away at the end of the show. Thanks to Yeet. So
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Us against Wizard of Soha.
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Yeah, he's
I mean, look, the first...
The top of the leader, the top of the board,
it's kind of easy.
It is like...
Yeah, it's going to be...
The final is going to be a walk away.
But Mireille is like...
Actually?
This like wild Mexican streamer that we have.
I saw him.
Yeah, he's good.
He screams at the top of his voice.
I don't know what he's saying
half the time
but he brings the fucking
he's like the Faroque
in Mexico.
And he's got the hair too
and the glasses.
He loves it, man.
They were like
originally
he wasn't that big of
well, I didn't know
but like
he was
when they first came
he was like
oh, you know
this would be
he's good to get
started in Mexico
and he's just done
like 10x
what we thought
we were going to do it.
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without trade-offs mando let's go to you
gm everyone come on so yeah kind of a week that we've, or a day at least,
we've gone sideways-ish, I would say, slightly lower.
Maybe like a 1% lower across some of the majors.
Macro, there's not really a picture here to tell you why we're selling off.
Stocks are basically unchanged as they have been since Friday.
People are saying, oh, it's ahead of Jackson Hole,
all this sort of stuff.
And I think that's just a narrative following price.
My honest view is just that crypto got a little bit over-levered.
It's a quiet period in terms of volume,
and you can smash things around a little bit during this period,
and that's kind of what we've seen.
There is some worry a little bit about the DATs,
like maybe that trade is starting to slow down at least,
and you can kind of see that.
Most of these are not – I don't think there's any DAT now trading at 2x.
It's Treasury, and that's most than trade between 1.2 to 1.4 to 2, yeah.
Yeah.
So it gives you a better sense of where we are so
this whole trade where you like create equity value but by buying these things i think is
slowing down and that's probably slowing down the bid for them um i think that that maybe affects
the most is probably eth because that's still got like this,
this massive shelf potentially that was going to buy like 25 to 30,
30 billion.
But it does affect some of the other altcoins as well.
And I guess it does affect Bitcoin to an extent.
I think the move by MicroTest yesterday wasn't necessarily taken that
positively.
I don't really know why they decided to do it,
but they did.
And just that trade is slightly slowing down.
But there's nothing that tells me, oh, the market's horrific in terms of macro.
So that just feels more like a technical sell-off where maybe some of these buyers are no longer there, weighing in the wing.
The stuff that I like is the same as I liked yesterday.
So I like Bitcoin.
I like ETH as it goes lower from here.
I do think it will bounce pretty aggressively at 4K and continue an uptrend.
And I brought a bit of LINK, like I said yesterday, for a Moonboy trade.
And everything else I'm not
super constructive on. I do think
that the hype looks okay.
I've nibbled a little
bit on that
over the last 24 hours.
This is just in terms
of majors.
I actually kind of agree with that.
I think it's likely that we kind of bounce
around this $4,000 level.
And the timeline will say it's completely over, as it always does,
when that happens.
But there's nothing that really tells me that.
So I think we're fine.
Yeah.
I saw Tyler, you were about to send me the same tweet.
I think this one's gone around the most over this morning.
Tom Lee here.
His quant,
Mark Newton, seems to be calling for pullback to
4,075, 4150.
Kind of a language you were talking about yesterday, Mando,
with trying that
bouncing off that
last high before making another run.
Beast, I'm curious for you.
I think you've talked
about it. I think you're pretty heavy on the ETH side for the last few weeks, months.
What's your thoughts on the treasury trades here?
Yeah, I mean, I've been pretty heavy on ETH for, I guess, seven years now.
It's probably an unhealthy relationship, so I've got somewhat of a Stockholm syndrome.
But no, I think the DAT
trade, it makes sense to me. I think that Tom Lee's a visionary. He sees that ETH and Bitcoin
are kind of the two assets that really have the infinite institutional bid. You've got BlackRock
buying, you've got opening up 401ks, you've got these things and all these asset vehicles that
are programmed up into the right forever. Just look at the stock market and the rest of the 401k stuff.
And so I think short term, yeah, there's a little bit of noise.
Maybe things drop a little bit, maybe they bounce around.
But we're going to look back at this in a year or two and be like, wow, we really had a great entry on these assets.
Yeah, I don't disagree definitely on that front.
Tyler, you sent me this.
I know you want to go into the major a little bit.
What are your thoughts here?
Yeah, I think just in general,
when the guy buying one and a half billion per week
tells us what he thinks is going to happen,
when he says pullbacks are healthy,
I think he said dips are shallow last month, right?
When we got the one dip and then, of course,
we just rampaged up to near all-time highs.
So I'm paying close attention whenever Tom Lee is putting out these price targets.
And I think if we get these numbers Wednesday, Thursday,
it's a very interesting position.
To be clear, if we get down there, I'll be buying a lot like I'll be going
straight back in wait into what if you get what like that that that price yeah if we hit like 4k
area I'll be I'll be buying for sure yeah I I that's what I felt it was why I moved back more
back into Bitcoin and just felt like we were we were just do a little bit of a correction in the market.
And I'll look at, I'll look at the other stuff that like dies on that day as well.
Or like maybe it doesn't even die.
Maybe it's the strongest stuff on that day.
Um, and, and by that as well.
I do think what's notable, it feels like SharpLinkink might be starting to run out of ammo a little bit.
And I don't want to...
Running out of ammo compared to how much they've had over the past month,
six weeks,
would they just buy and accumulate at an incredibly rapid pace.
But I think they've got 80 million cash on hand right now,
which is effectively the lowest they've had on these Tuesday
updates, I want to say in a while, they're only trading
at 1.1X and
1.1, 1.2.
So they don't have quite as much wiggle room
to hit the ATM
right now either.
So I feel like they are probably going to
slow down a little bit unless they kind of come out
with some new
mechanics or financial engineering
tactics for how they're going to race
to buy.
They can all slow down if I'm honest.
We've talked about this before but do you remember when
Seda put out the $20 billion, $25 billion
shelf and we were like, well it's a shelf.
A shelf doesn't mean you're actually
that is an expectation that
you'll buy. You're letting the market know that
you will buy. Everyone was letting the market know that you are, you are,
you will buy.
everyone was like,
there's 25 billion to buy,
but that's a shelf.
If the market turns and these companies don't execute by then,
that,
that is just like a,
we would have bought.
and they may never happen,
you know?
bit mine seems the most aggressive.
And for some reason there was a reward over Tom Lee,
I would guess over just as a spokesperson for them.
He seems like he's taking the sailor mantle for ease.
Yeah.
Away from Joe Lubin here.
And,
but I don't, I think if, if think if a couple of these start turning sour,
these companies can trade at a discount.
This is something that I just think everyone has to get in their head.
In the past, many of these,
even Microsoft actually traded at a massive discount.
Companies that have done this in the past,
by nature, often do trade at a discount. Like that is something that they,
like these sort of treasury-style vehicles for other commodities,
they have in the past often traded at a discount.
So the idea that this is they would constantly trade at a premium
is definitely not in stone.
Don't think that that's just
like oh they'll definitely hold up at one they they may not like sharp link could go easily below one
um and and if that were to happen i think it would probably
suddenly people would be like oh my god uh That's I didn't realize.
That and people will be calling for the end of the debt
already. Yeah, for sure.
A lot of
consequences. Yeah.
I put out
that tweet before. I think they're
operating exactly as they said they would.
What do we...
I mean, I still think it's better
holding ETH. And Tyler, I definitely want to
go to your topics in a second here. I'm curious
with chat things here, all three of you guys,
Mendo, Tyler, and Beast, about the
latest person
to enter the arena when it comes
to treasury companies, Shamath,
announcing a DeFi
SPAC yesterday.
I think everybody here is familiar with Chamath. I mean,
Beast, I'll go to you first. You're our guest. I mean, what is your thoughts on that?
Man, I still have some equity positions from the last time we ran SPAC playbooks. I think like
BarkBox and some of these other stocks that just got obliterated.
So I would say that Chamath running it back on SPACs is maybe not the most exciting thing for me.
I do think, though, that structurally things are just a little bit different.
They were four or five years ago.
There's a lot more inflation in the system than anybody's willing to admit.
And so I think that at least the good assets in crypto are going to be fine in the long run.
The money that's in the system has to go somewhere.
If it doesn't want to erode its buying power,
and I think that we all kind of agree that these are good assets.
I do think it's hilarious that no crying in the casino was included.
I didn't realize until now.
Yeah, it's a wild time.
What is happening?
This is absolutely cinema. What's
brutal to me is these are also
probably the four most interesting pillars for me
too. So I feel like he kind of nailed
it. I don't know the specific
companies he's talking about, but it's
defense, DeFi, energy,
and AI.
I mean, yeah, those are the four interesting sectors.
That was what I did my meme of the day about.
I saw your meme.
I didn't do that.
I'm just finding this out now. I did not know
the crying casino line.
That's a banger.
Everyone who TGs now needs to
have a no crying casino clause inside of their paperwork.
This is absolutely incredible.
Anyways, so look, on the majors here, 842.50.
Bitcoin's hovering around 115.
So that's where we're at on that front, et cetera.
I think we're just stalling Jackson Hole, all that good stuff.
If not, just check him on his feed.
He's been tweeting a lot about the markets.
And if you see Ethereum at 4,000,
I think we all agree that you should go into this.
Tyler, let's go to you now.
See your topics and have a little conversation with Beast.
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Yeah, folks.
Crypto majors are red here on the day.
Bitcoin down a percent, 114.6.
ETH down one and a half percent, 42.50.
So about even, 181.
Interestingly, on Solana, I missed this.
They did a test over the weekend.
Hit 100,000 TPS.
Very briefly.
So a big number there ahead of some upgrades coming later in Q4.
We just talked about Shamath.
Islam's got $250 million back, including DeFi's one of its four pillars.
Tether, news this morning.
They hired former White House crypto director Bo Hines as an advisor.
So this is where he is going next.
That was an interesting one.
Google upped its stake in Bitcoin miner terrible up to 14%, so from 8% to 14%.
They're going deeper into Bitcoin mining. Cubic, the company that did the 51% attack of Monero,
has now turned its focus to Dogecoin after a vote in its Discord. So look out for what their plans
are for that. Japan, I'm first JPY-pegged stablecoins. They're getting into stables.
Then we had Figure Technologies, which is a blockchain-based lending platform. They filed
for an IPO with some big backings, Goldman Sachs, Bank of America. So that's the latest crypto IPO
in the mix. In treasuries, we went over the Tom Lee Bitmine and MicroStrategy News yesterday.
Nakamoto, David Bailey's company, they closed on a $200 million convertible note yesterday.
So they're going to use those funds to buy Bitcoin.
Then SBET has added another 12,000 ETHs since Friday.
Now holds 740,000, 84 million cash on hand.
In token airdrop protocol news, OpenSea introduced a new feature allowing buying of EVM, NFTs via sold
directly in apps. That's a nice little unlock.
Heaven was the second largest
meme coin launchpad on Solana. Again,
$460,000 in revenue
compared to pump funds of $1.6
million. So they are increasing
their market share. Kaido
added Moonbirds to their platform. Also
a Bybit airdrop to Kaido
power users this morning. So go check your wallets
over on Kaido. Polymarket
launched a new partnership with Ashley
St. Clair, covering her new show
Bad Advice. This came out of nowhere.
I didn't see that.
And we had Pirate Nation
Sunset, their original on-chain Pirate Nation
game, due to lack of an audience. I'm sure
we'll talk about that with ICO here in a
minute. And then Rekt, new Mint details are out for that base collab.
That's coming tomorrow at 12 p.m. Eastern, 69.69 per case.
Rounding this out, AI crypto market was pretty much even.
I think the big move in memes overall is this light ecosystem.
Light hit $220 million FTV, up another 50% in a new all-time high overnight.
They've now bought back about $2 million of their own token.
This seems to be where all the action is.
Wow.
You're in Light, Beast?
Because Tyler's all over that.
Oh, Mando, you missed yesterday.
We were talking about Tyler's bags after you left and his weekend.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He gave us a whole thesis on Light and heaven and all that.
He's cooking.
I've got to give it to him.
It's up a lot from yesterday's show. I mean, Beast, have you
been to the latest launchpad?
So I
thought it'd light pretty good
at the launch, which in fairness
to me, it did go straight
to hell after launch.
And then at that point, I was like, you know,
it may go back out, it may not.
But I was right about it tanking off
the launch. I was not right about it skyrocketing two days later.
So I'm sidelined.
But also, I didn't lose any money in the pre-sale by then selling my bags at the bottom.
So I think it was a W for me just because I didn't lose money.
Yeah, I think I'm actually fortunate that I didn't participate in the ICO.
Because I probably would have gotten shaky.
It did a full like 50% retrace.
It was bad.
It was really bad.
So this is the ICO from the other day.
You got to have a tune to together.
Yeah.
It's cooking.
That uncapped resale.
Yeah.
It's doing good.
It's 114 mil.
And that's good.
Yeah.
So it's 220, 220 million FDB.
And the ICO was 22 million.
So I think it's 10X.
Look at this.
Is everyone unlocked?
The ICO people are unlocked.
The team is vesting linearly over two years.
And then what you see there on the page of the flywheel statistics.
So they are programmatically and in real time buying back their token,
the light token with 100% of revenue.
Wow.
So this is,
it's arguably the strongest flywheel we've seen in the launchpad space.
It's still pretty interesting to go ahead.
I would say it's pretty interesting to me because this is
basically what everybody screamed to pasternak to do for like six months and then the best he could
do is like tweet a picture of a tire and instead light was like okay here we're going to ship in
three days and just buy back a bunch of tokens and protocol fees so i mean gg to the team
has a girlfriend you know you have more money to bankroll these $40,000 a night hotel stays with her
if he had just put the flywheel in.
LaunchCoin, I believe I did $70 in revenue yesterday, I think I saw.
Not $70,000.
Brutal.
$70,000.
The light numbers are big.
So I think there was a lot of questions.
Opening weekend, they did well.
I think there was questions of how they'll sustain it.
Again, don't want to jump to conclusions.
It's only two or five days.
But revenue went from 260 to 460 in the past day.
So that was a nice amount.
So if they can keep this revenue going up,
the token will continue to grind up with this flywheel place.
But it's dependent on some good memes coming.
Tyler,
do you have any insight into how many of the industrial deployers are
launching on my right now?
So like if you,
if you track bonk eco versus pump eco,
you could see when the ball he could overtook them both in like mine share
and market share,
because like the top 10 deployers from pump migrated over to bonk for like
two weeks.
Do we know if they're currently launching on Lite and that's a driver for this?
Or do we do an insight there?
I don't.
That's a good data point to look into.
But yeah, I don't have it off the top of my head.
I haven't dug in on exactly who's launching.
I have no idea.
But I missed this trade.
And I know that I posted the video of the show yesterday and they got a lot of engagement.
So there's something going on there, but again, curious to see, it's got to sustain, right?
Like these launch pads just come and go.
Mando, we went over it yesterday so we don't have to go too deep, but at least this one kind of has like good branding and like looks good.
It has 100% burn from the revenue.
So it's actually really interesting the way they're doing it.
2.3% burnt already, which is really interesting.
But anyways, Tyler, give it to you.
Yeah, the only other one, quick announcements,
then we'll get to ICO.
OpenSea added Solana.
Effectively, you can buy NFTs on ETH via Sol now.
I was promised this 3,000 years 000 years ago well now it's here so you can actually do it um but it's a pretty big unlock i feel like the only one they really
don't have yet is bitcoin i don't know if they're just choosing not to um because runes and ordinals
just not the most exciting nft eco right now I was looking at the NFT marketplace
numbers yesterday. It is still
pretty shocking. Blur still has like 40%
on the month. So even with
effectively an abandoned platform,
they're still doing a huge
chunk of the
volume, which goes to show just how good
their product was.
But OpenSea
is doing everything right.
I think for the most part,
they are still grinding up.
They're taking the market share back.
It's looking good ahead of
their token.
ICO, you said you're not a big
NFT guy, but I'm curious.
You will farm
for airdrops, I believe.
Have you been farming OpenSea
much? What are your thoughts about their potential
and Q4 maybe
if ever? Yeah so
you're definitely, I'm not a big NFT guy
I got smoked a lot of NFTs in
22 and 23
long story short I missed the fun part
of NFTs and just bought everybody's bags
when the party was over
so that I think flavors my view of them as far as the open sea airdrop goes i think
it's going to be pretty good um i haven't been like actively farming farming it for the xp drops
but i think the people that do are going to be pretty happy um i think old volume drivers and
like the old traders are probably not going to be that pumped but also i don't really know if openc cares
because it's like they want they want future users and they want to drive
like new actual use of the platform and honestly a lot of people that were
like big power users in the past made a lot of
money trading in fts so i i think they can kind of absolve
themselves a little bit say hey you guys made money doing this already
we're using this airdrop as a user acquisition tool as kind of absolve themselves a little bit and say, hey, you guys made money doing this already.
We're using this airdrop as a user acquisition tool, as kind of a pivot springboard for the company going forward.
I think it's probably going to cook for people that have been doing voyages.
I've talked with Adam Hollinger a little bit, and I think that they're looking at civil filtering and multi-accounts in a really smart way it's always hard to like truly eliminate all the multi-farms uh but i do think the more effort like work you put into
doing that correctly or doing it well it gets a better distribution tokens um and you end up
having a better look after tg so i think they're looking at all the things in the right way um
but again a lot of it so much of the airdrops and stuff it's hard to know because the markets
change on a dime they launch into bullish conditions things can be awesome but i mean
if they launch and eth goes to like a thousand dollars the next day then it won't matter like
i can do everything right and still be at the mercy majors yeah i think that's pretty spot on
they need uh it needs to come out at a decent time with respect to majors. And I think we also want NFTs on an upswing,
which they are on an upswing right now.
Moonbirds are $15,000.
The Moonbirds comeback is awesome.
It's crazy.
It's really crazy.
Your call was prescient,
saying Moonbirds are more likely to go back to all-time high
than what Bored Apes and...
Yeah, I don't think Moonbirds are actually going back to 40 but i do think they have a better
shot at it i mean it's it's a purely a technical like like far i guess fundamental qualitative
value whatever it is they have they have a token incentive and speculation attached so that's like
the the two bullish things about a are it being a token voucher
or there being like some other unknown thing
that people really want.
And they've got both of those.
So I think that alone has like a bigger springboard
or a bigger bounce pad for them to shoot back up,
relatively speaking.
I would not predict them going back
to all-time high in ETH terms,
but USD might be live. So USD all-time high in ETH terms, but USD might be live.
So USD all-time high is probably like 100K.
I don't know if you remember what it was.
No, it was high for sure, no?
You think it was higher than 100K?
Maybe not.
You were at 100K now.
Well, I'll try to pull it up.
That was like 33 ETH, like 4K ETH almost.
That's a section here.
Yeah, it's got to be like 125, 150.
Yeah, you're close enough.
ETH is like 3K around then.
I'm saying 85K.
Oh, really? That's where I bought, by the way.
April 24, 2022.
So that sounds like that's where I bought.
So ETH had peaked back in November, right?
So ETH was kind of on the down
when we had to really blow off
NFT season ahead of the other side.
So yeah, 85K.
So that's a 6X.
It's within range.
It's within range.
It still seems crazy, but maybe.
Well, it could do it for like,
let's say there's like a token come in
and then like it'll like run it there.
Now, if it stays there, I don't know,
but it could probably run there.
I mean, the only one smart enough
to buy a Moonbird when Spencer came on the show
is Mando.
Welcome to another episode of The Rich Get Richer on ROG Radio.
I mean…
Mando wins again.
We have him on the show.
Dude, like, Tyler, let's line up Spencer.
You know, he bought Moonbird.
It's probably a good show for film hour.
Or, yeah, sure, let's get Spencer on.
Yeah, sure.
Let's get Spencer on.
It's .6 ETH, .7 ETH.
And Mando discovers that his investment in OCAP Games means that he also has, you know,
he kind of is invested in Moonbirds because they bought it under that company live on air.
Doesn't realize it.
So it's like a double win here.
Turns around, buys one Moonbird for the culture.
Love to see that.
And there we go.
Almost a 10.
It's like a 5x.
It is a 5x.
It's a clean 5x too like you could have done it with Zy's because these NFTs you could
buy like 20, 30, 40 of them and then easily get liquidity for those so.
Well and Ethan's up more right?
Ethan's up way more too.
No it's a 20x on USD.
I'm pretty sure it's like a 10, 15, 20x on USD.
I bought mine for 3k I think. But I bought pretty sure it's like a 10, 15, 20X on USD. I bought mine for 3K, I think.
But I bought it.
It's a nice moonboat.
It's got like a nice hat to it.
I bought like a semi-rare one.
Yeah, the art looks even better now, right?
Yeah.
A witch's hat I bought.
15K floor on the witch's hat.
So 5X.
A witch's hat is nice.
We're talking about trade floors on NFTs,
baby.
We are,
we are so bad.
We are so bad.
We're so bad.
So it's abstract Tuesday.
We should,
we should switch gears a little bit.
Yeah,
let's do it.
You've had some success.
I've seen the screenshots.
What,
what the hell have you been doing over on abstract?
What,
what have we not been doing?
Yeah.
What are you missing?
What have,
what have we been missing out on? are you missing like what what have we
been missing out on because it feels like you're cooking over there yeah i mean so it would be it
would be rude um and not not okay for the company i say everybody should go try the abstract arcade
proof of play we build fun games you'll play so go do that um and i will love you forever
um and i'll tell you how to make money so not that making money on abstract, buy interesting meme coins and then hold them.
It's like, it's holy smokes.
I just followed my mentor CZ who says, if you cannot hold, you will not be rich.
And I said, oh, maybe I should hold and then I will get rich.
So for me, it was like bridging over like a thousand dollars or something early on.
And I just, I monitor chats.
I monitor Twitter,
kind of see what my friends are looking at buying,
see what's deploying.
And Moonshot through Deck Screener
is like the token launcher that did a lot of these.
And you could see them sitting there on the bonding curves.
And people didn't really know how to buy them
because you had to attach your AGW through Deck Screener.
And then you could ape a little bit of Ethan.
And the slippage was really terrible.
So it was a bad experience, but people weren't doing it and because it was like friction
and that's like often where you find your biggest upside so i bought like chingu i bought a bunch
of these tokens i mean like half of them went straight to zero and like never came back but i
was getting in these tokens at like 30 40 50k market cap and just sitting on them and i mean
i held them for three or three or four months and they went totally parabolic as volume kind of came into the chain so that's that's mainly what
i did is bought cheap tokens and then just sat for a couple months i figured abstract was going
to generate more attention and over like they explicitly said we're not optimized for tbl
or like trading volume at the start we want to get apps here we want to get people to actually
use the stuff on chain.
And then we believe that as more people come in,
you get a bigger nucleus of players,
then you'll start to see more like degen on chain stuff happen.
And that's exactly what has to happen.
Now you've got like experience for holding coins.
So there's some reasons to do it.
So my thoughts are you're probably safe-ish holding some of these coins
up until a few weeks before TGE.
My guess is people
are going to try to optimize and maximize for XP going through that just because that is a pretty
good incentive and then at some point you'll have to exit unless you like really want to make the
bet that extra last few weeks of XP is going to be worth it for the conversion um and that's where
the game theory kind of comes in but yeah that's what it does buy good coins and hold them yeah
you nailed it I did two things wrong I bought coins that weren't good and then i didn't hold them very long
in fact the opposite you didn't listen to cz
um so yeah i should have listened to to cz more myself you mentioned some of the apps i'm curious
have you been playing around with many apps on AppStrike? Yeah, yeah. Like, what's been interesting?
So, obviously, I play Proofplay Arcade.
I play on-chain heroes.
I'm a big fan of, like, idol, semi-idol games.
And, like, my kid loves the music, and he likes the duck.
And so it's, like, that's a funnel that I check in with.
My heroes are pretty decent.
I didn't love how much some of, like, the playing costs were for costs were for this part like dying it costed a lot to revive your heroes so that kind of slowed down some of
my progress um and then i've been playing gigaverse i like i love the fishing mini game in that like i
don't actually do the dungeons i just play the fishing game because i like fishing um so that's
been that's been something i've done uh checked out myriad markets obviously
shout out to uh hell yeah um and let's i there's like a there's some kind of sheep game where you
shoot sheep out of a cannon and like they get stabbed or electrocuted and if they don't you
win some money so that's cool um but yeah so i mean just kind of like try and stuff out i've
been using the moonshot app for buying some memes.
There were a couple other launchers that I tried.
But it's just kind of a big way.
Oh, thanks.
Cambria launched this week.
So I was a big Cambria guy back during Blast.
They brought it back now on Abstract.
And so that's a great place to go do some duels with your friends.
Win X Calibers, like shitpost in the chat.
It's a good time, especially for everybody who really enjoyed RuneS shitpost in the chat it's it's a good time
especially for everybody like really enjoyed runescape back in the day um because it's
extremely nostalgia fueled well i'm curious so do you have more time or less time for for playing
around for experimenting ever since you've done the transition into web 2 web 3 yes i think i have similar time to tinker with apps and things but i have slightly
more time to be aware of things um so i like i don't get as much time to sit around and like
play apps or play games as much as i'd like to um but i do like i have actual like legitimate part
of my job time now to at least be aware of new things that are launching or like at least get the major details and main points of things that are coming out, both so that I can talk about them, but also so that I can like figure out what are the good pieces and what are the not as good pieces for like internal stuff.
And we're trying to figure out, Hey, what are we going to do next?
Or how are we going to iterate?
And how are we going to make our products better?
Yeah.
So let's dig into that a little bit. I'm curious. So I can, what, what do you do next? Or how are we going to iterate? And how are we going to make our products better? Yeah, so let's dig into that a little bit.
I'm curious.
So what do you do for Proof of Play?
It's a big question in general.
Great question.
Yeah, so, I mean, it's kind of a work in progress.
I'm technically the mindshare lead at Proof of Play.
And basically what my job is,
it's similar to what Brad Guy does at
MegaEath. So it's a combination of being present and visible on the timeline to drive awareness of
the company Prove and Play. So for people that haven't heard of us before, we're a gaming studio
and an on-chain services development company. So we build tools for companies for app developers for users to
like build on-chain services into their games we have a pretty um pretty well used um random
number generator called vrng it's a super cheap super fast solution for getting on-chain verified
random numbers into your your games um so we have a lot of clients that use that. We're really trying to push hard on Mando
to use it in Yeet,
but I won't dig on that too hard right now.
But that's one of our services.
We've got a lot more that we're building
and releasing in the near term
from the services side of things.
And then previously, our major game was Pyre Nation.
It's winding down, as we announced yesterday.
But a lot of our games are used specifically Previously, our major game was Pyre Nation. It's winding down, as we announced yesterday.
But a lot of our games are used specifically to test out the tech that we're releasing.
We dogfood our own stuff by building games to showcase the tech works and then provide that tech for other people used. But my job is to drive awareness, let people know that we exist.
Like we've seen a great inflow of like B2B interest, people wanting to use our services.
It's leveraging network and connections that I have to continue building the relationship and the reputation the brand has.
There's some internal stuff.
So like helping figure out company messaging, helping navigate difficult announcements, as you may have seen
in the last 24 hours, kind of helping to tell the story of what we've done, what we're doing
currently, and what the plan is going forward. And so there's been a lot of internal-faced work
over the last couple of weeks as we've been getting ready to roll out some of the bigger
announcements. And then at a startup, you kind of do everything. So there's, there's incentive design, there's
game loop feedback, there's, there's analysis of reward systems. And so I, there's a lot of things
internally, especially like with the arcade rollout, where I was helping workshop ideas for,
for what X, Y, or Z should look like on a scoring basis. How do we determine who's the best at this?
How do we determine leaderboards?
A lot of those kind of things.
It's a little bit of everything mixed with being kind of like a public cheerleader.
So in 2021, they call that a chief of vibes, a director of vibes.
Yeah, it's really, it's really very similar to that.
I like that.
So what's up with, I mean, I don't know if you're happy to talk about this.
Cause you mentioned a couple of times that the parent nation news yesterday
is kind of like,
feel like it was kind of the state of,
cause I know the team,
like on Arbitrum,
they've been cooking for a while.
I tried the game back then at the big,
big conference for gaming in San Francisco.
I forgot the name.
Sorry.
At GC,
at GC,
like some crazy,
anyways,
GDC, there you go um and so so what do you make of that announcement with regards to like the broader web3 gaming landscape like it's almost
this cycles music nfts right like that's it's pretty crazy what's happening here yeah i mean
i i think that it's it's a really interesting question went through gaming because
for a long time um everybody's like oh well what players want and what the market wants is
interoperability and like they want to own their assets to be able to use them across like any any
game and take them with them and like not realizing that's a very small portion of the user base that
wants that um and also like most game developers aren't super willing still to like have
their,
their APIs open and like cross cross game interoperability.
It works way better inside like a suite of a company's own games as opposed
to across like any game ever.
So that's a little bit of a pickle and like trying to figure out what the
market actually wants.
So for us, our nation was kind of this this example example or demo of hey you can make a fully on
chain game um it's like it's actually possible and i mean the contracts are there so somebody
wanted to deploy this on mainnet i mean it's really expensive to deploy the contracts and
maintain them and like play the game on mainnet so we want to do that they could and so that was that was part of it i mean amit has a grand vision that he he cast of
like why on chain games matter and his experience at farmville with them shutting down the servers
um and like people not actually being able to play it was like a tough thing obviously for
players that put a lot of time into it so there's there's that side of it with fully on chain games
that people still could watch these contracts and run them themselves.
For us, it was a business decision.
It's not private at this point, but it costs a lot of money to run two chains.
We're running two high-performance chains to put all of the transactions and everything on-chain.
At this point in time, it simply didn't make sense for a business case because the revenue that the game was generating was simply not enough to cover the costs of running the server so at a business especially a startup you want to run lean you
want to like cut cost centers and and focus really hard on what can be a billion dollar vertical as
opposed to what might be a break-even vertical a year down the road and so that's really like at
the core of it that's what it is we we have a bunch of ideas that we believe are big winners
or could be big winners and so we're cutting costs on the things that don't appear to be as promising.
And we're hard focusing dev time and resources on the things that we do believe have a chance to be disruptive and really make a ton of money for the company to make all the holders happy.
So that's the crux of it is we believe that we are aligning ourselves with better business verticals um
companies they they have to make money um and that's like that's we talk about revenue metas
and all that it's kind of like a meme but that's how companies actually operate is they have to
make money uh to justify further capital investment to justify their existence and that's that's what
we're doing where we're focusing hard on on revenue like our arcade had a great launch on abstract the first two weeks i think we cleared somewhere around 300k in revenue
um and so we're like really excited about that we want to iterate that game make it better make it
more engaging make it more rewarding for players that's something we've heard that um players want
more of they want they want more clear reward structure which we shied away from a little bit
the beginning so we wanted to see if people would just play games for fun,
and they will to some extent.
We also want to make players feel honored and respected,
so we're looking at ways to make it a little bit more rewarding
or make it more clear, like collectible, whatever it's going to be.
We want people to feel like they're getting something
alongside the enjoyment of playing.
So by closing down Pirate Nation,
we're freeing up a lot of dev resources
and funds to throw it at these other ideas
that we think can generate a lot more money
for the business.
Yeah, that's fair.
That's figurative.
It's actually, we didn't obviously expect
this show was going to happen today.
We asked you last week,
but I thought you'd go there.
It's a good sense of window space.
I kind of want to go into InfoFi quickly.
Obviously, we have our top yapper on the show, Tyler.
He's been getting his gold medals because we have a thing
here at ICOB. It's like, we don't care if you're top 10
for a year straight. It's all about
being first.
It's all about how many of us.
If you're not first, you're last.
And Tyler's been getting it.
Thanks to Zelensky's suit,
got a gold medal
on the daily and the weekly.
But I want to go there because you tweet about Kaito a ton.
And Mendel, this morning, you kind of got into it too.
I saw a tweet.
You're responding to Wale about regarding how now that they've slashed or fixed,
somewhat were fixed, trying to fix something.
You guys' board is like 30 people and you have 2% you're giving to them, which, by the way, alpha right there. That's for sure. now that they've slashed or fixed somewhat or fixed, try to fix something. Um, you guys is bored.
It's like 30 people and you have 2% you're giving to them,
which by the way,
alpha right there.
That's for sure.
So yeah,
go for it.
This is doing it right now.
It's just that like character have come in and they've been a little bit
aggressive,
but I don't know if it's even,
I don't know what the threshold they did,
but they,
they came to us and said,
look,
we want to make these changes.
They,
they,
they impacted them across the board and they've made changes before. And then they, they did, but they came to us and said, look, we want to make these changes. They impacted them across the board.
And they've made changes before, and then they
did this. And
for a project like ours, where
if I'm honest, quite a lot of CT
haven't spoken about you.
It's not like a classic airdrop.
There's probably a core group of people
that you would know, and then there's a lot of
smaller accounts, let's say,
of which the quality of the content vary massively.
I actually think now it's a very interesting time to look at the projects again.
Because this is across the board for a lot of different projects right now.
And suddenly, people are giving out
decent allocations to a smaller point than there ever was before.
So if you're an active user of Yeet,
which I think there's a lot more users
maybe than people tweeting about it,
then it suddenly makes these sort of things
relatively interesting.
So, yeah, that's kind of my view.
Obviously, people like the bigger accounts,
I think, benefit better from this.
We also have like a
earn program
where even if you're just using both,
we have a 20k reward pool.
But suddenly,
I don't know if people have realized
that suddenly that's happened.
Because they were like,
oh, it's really terrible for the timeline, all this sort of stuff.
And then Kaito have actually made some pretty drastic changes.
And then now it's like, well, maybe they have a shot
at trying to get back to what they were trying to aim to do,
which is like not just promote, I would guess, quality content a bit better.
Yeah, what do you make of that uh the
latest updates and what do you think info five is that right now because you you definitely that's
something you talk about a lot that's what's me yeah yeah i mean i i'm of the opinion that info
five is probably the most probably yeah probably the most interesting new vertical, new shiny toy from the last eight months.
Launchers, like bonding curve launchers,
and that sort of thing were kind of 2024.
I feel like 2025, InfoPy,
and the ability to use AI to scrape data
and try to gain valuable insights
into influence and motion and all that.
I think that's really interesting.
I do think that prior to people realizing
how lucrative it could be,
it was better because then it was people getting rewarded for just doing what they do.
And it was pretty similar over the last four or five months to incentivize testnet
airdrop campaigns where people spin up hundreds, thousands of Sybil accounts and just spam the
crap out of the network and hope to get an airdrop when the thing launches. And that's what we're doing. Twitter accounts, they're hooking up an LLM to a Twitter account
for like a couple cents a day and just spamming useless garbage about every project out of the
sun. And I mean, you see that too, with some of the bigger accounts that don't even run their
accounts anymore. They have like an army of tons and tons of interns that are just reply guy to
everything or just pumping out generic garbage content.
And they're all like just doing it to farm these short term rewards.
I think that the winners in this like InfoFi race or armed race, whatever you call it,
are going to be the people that cook their algorithms the right way that it gets rid of that stuff.
So incentives like drive outcomes, if you end up actually rewarding and incentivizing people that are just slopping up the timeline, you're going to get more of that stuff. So incentives like drive outcomes, if you end up actually rewarding
and incentivizing people that are just slopping up the timeline, you're going to get more of that.
I don't know how you fix that necessarily. I think it probably has some kind of like
proof of humanity gating that is required at the end of the day. So you can't run 30 accounts
and prove that you're you and end up collecting like rewards from all that because in like any system that have incentives
if the rewards outweigh the cost to do it somebody will exploit it and figure out how to do that
and so there's there's got to be some kind of gating i don't know if that means you have like
some sort of economic security where you have to stake a certain number of tokens or if there's
some kind of like proof of realness or proof of on-chain history where you have to have like accounts that are a certain age verified or based on transactions online where
you sign your wallets to prove ownership i don't know exactly how they do it and that's quite
frankly not my job that's why they get tokens that are worth billions of dollars um but that's i
think that's what you got to do i don't think amplifies cook i don't think it's dead actually
it's really interesting it's probably going to proliferate because in like a post AI age,
proof of real influence actually matters a lot.
So I think that's like,
that's what I'm looking at is who is going to win this arms race of making
their algorithm good enough to reward real,
genuine,
honest content and exclude just like copy pasta,
LM spam that like ultimately,
yeah,
it may get eyes or may get attention maybe spoof
metrics but excluding that or awarding real people that are like making real content i think that's
probably the winner makes sense i'm curious maybe specifically i mean you are an expert
you are number three for all humans on on Kydo all time. Damn. Behind Ansem and Mert.
Wow.
So like someone's listening
and they want to dig in
and Mando just kind of went over this.
The leaderboard is effectively refreshed.
There's 30 people on it.
I feel like the time is ripe
for someone who's interested
to go make a run at that.
What would you tell them to do?
I would say use the platform
um go go sign up i mean we're on phone hours to go use the phone hour yeah there you go
try it out and talk about what you did like that's that's ultimately what people want they want
genuine organic real content they want you to talk about what you're doing they want you to
showcase they want you to bring them along on're doing. They want you to showcase.
They want you to bring them along on the journey.
Tell them a story.
So go blow $100 on the platform.
Maybe you hit it big and you have a sweet post.
Oh my gosh, I made $10,000.
Or maybe you lose it all.
I'm like, wow, I thought I was going to win. And then it turns out it's the casino.
And now I'm crying at the casino.
Hey, that's the thing.
Just go do stuff.
Go do stuff and talk about it
don't don't just talk about it and that's i think that's what a lot of people are missing is they're
like these like instant regurgitated billboards that don't actually do anything they just talk
about it go do something and then talk about what you experienced and that's that's what you should
do it's it's like yeah you're gonna have to risk a little bit capital and actually that's why this
is one of the more interesting airdrop spots uh because most farmers or like Kaido yappers or whatever don't
really have much disposable capital, it seems. And so if you're looking to make content in an
area that doesn't have a lot, and you have the ability to allocate a couple thousand dollars
or something to burn through a playthrough, you've got an edge there because there are people that
can't compete with you on the genuineness scale.
This is good advice. I think Man of the Race is a great point, and you're double-downing on it right now.
That was the time.
After these changes, someone who puts in the work has the opportunity to go do this, but it's going to take work.
someone who puts in the work has the opportunity to go do this,
but it's going to take work.
You're not going to just be able to feed a couple of tweets in the chat GPT
and get it up on the later board with a handful of prompts.
You're in the legwork, but the time is there.
You made $17,000 this month. Congrats.
Info 5 is a good gig.
It's a good thing, man.
It's great.
If you know what you're doing,
you spend time building up an audience,
people listen to you talk about things you do,
you can just incorporate it in what you talk about. So the Bybit campaign was really interesting
because I'm not really a Bybit power user
because I'm in the United States
and they don't like us.
They just don't let us on the platform.
But I think that tokenized stocks are interesting.
And so it was a way for me to talk about equities and throw in the word buy but in there because they're the ones that are kind of funding all this development and talk
about that so throw that in a few posts make four grand like polka dot i love defy i love compounding
yields i think it's a great wealth creation tool weave that into your content about defy and boom
there you go now you're placing on the leaderboard so it's like that's a very different approach than chat GPT and 16 threads a day about something
you've never actually yeah I think that's really the secret sauce I mean this is a this is a tale
as like oldest times like even my like before like in social platform building social media
they was like oh how do you grow a platform for over how you get to like millions of followers
I'm like well just be authentically yourself like just like fucking you know like just actually research it and write and make people attracted to like
your energy and what you have to say and do i think we've all done that like all four of us
this is why we have so many followers on our platform is because people want to be tied to
like the actual person that's some chat gpt copy pasta like how many influencers you've seen come
and go uh in in crypto since 2021?
And how many of them are still here?
There's not that many.
And then you wonder why their products that are launching are the more successful ones, etc.
It's just because of exactly what he's saying.
So you can apply that, copy-paste that method to InfoFile, and then you got it.
Anyways, I know we're on time, ICOBs. Do we have you for like two more minutes?
Yeah, of course.
Boom.
All right, two more minutes.
I want to play a little prediction game with you.
You did say Myriad Markets.
It is abstract August right now on Myriad Markets.
And there is a little pudgy up for grabs.
So we figured, we do tend to do that with our guests,
is why not do a couple predictions?
Let's do a few of them.
Let's pick up a few predictions and see if you know
what you're talking about
on today's show.
It's very simple.
If you go to Mirai.Markets...
Oh, I love this.
This is great.
Exactly.
Mirai.Markets, right there.
Abstract top trader.
The highest P&L percentage wins.
A little pudging.
Those are worth quite a bit of money.
And so let's start with this one,
ICOB.
So U.S. price of a dozen eggs above $3.50 in August.
Oh, man.
By the end of August.
The end of August.
Aggregate in the United States, I think probably yes.
Yes?
All right.
Let's put $10 on that.
I'm putting cold, hard cash here. All right? And so it's really important that you make sure I don't on that. I'm putting cold, hard cash here.
And so it's really
important that you make sure I don't lose that
on there. So there you go.
That is done. Let's pick
a few fun ones with
you guys. Tyler, Amanda here.
Let me close it. I think we need to put them on the spot for an
eighth prediction and then for a Solana prediction.
There you go. So there you go. I think this is a good one, actually,
given the market's already flushing as we're on the show right now.
So do we think...
Hold on.
What is this?
Oh, sorry.
I did not see the message.
So do we think
Ethereum next hit,
$5,000
or dip to $3,500?
Ooh.
I think I'm a believer of 5K before $3,500.
The only way that I think this goes wrong
is if there's a flash crash
where there's a major liquidation cascade.
I don't think it spends really any meaningful time
below $3,500 before it taps $5,000.
So 5K before $3,500, there you have it.
That's the trade that we're being given
here by COB.
There you go. Let's go on to
the next market. What else should we do?
You said interior market. What else, Tyler?
I know there's a sole all-time high.
Oh, there you go.
New Solana all-time high by
end of year. Yes or no?
I'm slamming no on this.
Whoa.
Okay. It's got to get to what like almost 300 294.33 cents yeah i don't i don't see a world where that happens in the next four months
all right well 64 of people in myriad actually agree with you so it looks like that's you gotta
think who who like the literal president of the free world launched a token and we couldn't get over $300 when everybody wanted Sol to buy it.
What is going to drive that demand that's even more interesting for people to buy Sol to buy something else than the Trump meme coin?
I just don't even know.
Is he launching his coin?
Yeah, Yeezy token.
Oh, I saw that.
Yeezy token.
I had a bunch of that at $3 million last night because I didn't believe it. And then I saw that somebody pumpedezy tokens are in cheap. I had a bunch of that at $3 million last night. And I dumped it because I didn't believe it.
And then I saw that somebody pumped $800,000 in the chart.
But it looks like it's back down to where I sold it.
It's back to $4 million.
So unless you sold it.
Yeah.
All right.
So I got another one.
Actually, will there be an Ethereum all-time high by the end of 2025?
I think so.
I think so. This goes hand-in-hand with the of 2025? I think so. I think so.
This goes hand-in-hand with the 5K.
I think it's going to happen.
All right.
Also, I mean, even if it doesn't, I'm still holding all my spot bags.
But I think it will.
It's funny how Clemente is meant to get a tattoo on his ass at all-time high,
and we dumped as soon as we were kissing that high.
Let's do – there was a fun one here.
Oh, this one could be good.
Will Jerome Powell leave the Fed chair in 2025?
I don't think so.
I don't think there's any real scenario
where he gets fired
and I don't think he leaves voluntarily.
Yeah, that's for sure.
But he better fucking cut those rates, y'all.
Too late, Powell. Too late, Powell.
Too late, Powell. And maybe something more fun.
Do you see a fun one here,
Tyler, that we could
be more culture-oriented?
Oh, Appster. He says
he's deep in the...
Oh, it's a points one. Do I have points? Okay, I have points.
Appster market cap
at the end of August. Between 30
and 40 mil, over 30 mil,
40 to 50 mil,
50 to 60 or six,
you know,
over under 16.
Oh man.
I think I'm going to hate this.
I'm going to say less than 30.
All right.
So I think it's this one less than 30.
Yeah.
And I think,
I think it's between that or the 30 to 40 mil,
which obviously everybody else is saying too.
I'm curious to see how the memes hold as people speculate on when abstract TG is going to be. think it's between that or the 30 to 40 mil which obviously everybody else is saying too i i'm
curious to see how the memes hold as people speculate on when abstract tg is gonna be
this is true i i put all my points on that uh i went all in and then maybe another usdc market
here i like the usdc ones out let me put some money on this shit uh oh how about this one
this one's already I mean end of August
like we're so close to that already like it's really
tough right
oh there you go will a
Pengu ETF last one will Pengu ETF
be approved before October
so before the end of September
yeah that's a no for me
I think we will get a Pengu
ETF or at least it'll be included in one
but a pure Pengu ETF for October seems extremely unlikely.
All right.
Well, there you go.
There you have it.
It was that simple.
And for those of you who are here because you're following ICOBs, just so you all know,
all these predictions just made in USDC are on abstracts using Mirriad markets,
but you also get to farm abstract XP.
You get a lot of it, actually, ICO. You get a lot of XP for using Mirrored markets but you also get to farm abstract xp you get a lot of it
actually icl you get a lot of xp uh for using mirrored xc so make sure you guys are predicting
it's all on chain peace thank you so much for spending the hour with us was uh was a good one
appreciate you for coming on man i've had a blast really appreciate you guys having me up here
all right man see ya and for those of you who are waiting for the giveaway,
well, the raffle bot thingy kind of broke again.
And Dejan Tai.
Tag Dejan Tai in the chat and try to get him on.
I would get it going, but we kind of ran over,
and I felt bad holding Beast longer.
So we'll just double it tomorrow.
Simple.
We'll just do what we always do.
Actually, we'll just double it on Friday,
and we'll still do one tomorrow. So one Wednesday, one Thursday, and two Friday. But I didn't want to keep it tomorrow. Simple. We'll just do what we always do. Actually, we'll just double it on Friday, and we'll still do one tomorrow. So one Wednesday, one Thursday, and two Friday, but I didn't want
to keep it going. We were over time, and I felt bad and didn't want to change the rules on you
guys again for second in a row last minute. So let's wait and see how it works tomorrow.
If it doesn't work tomorrow, then we'll just do a game again, like a question game, and go from
there. But definitely did not want to push it back again.
Let's see if I make money here.
I mean, when Declan came last time on the show,
I made some money on my predictions.
And for everybody else, hang on to your pennies.
It's going to go down before it goes higher, but we should be fine.
So with that, with that, with that,
let's talk tomorrow morning, 10 a.m. Eastern Standard Time
for another episode of FOMO Hour on Rock Radio.
