Adam, I see you in the audience.
I will invite you to speak and then we'll just wait for Jason to join us as well.
Mal, I've got you added as a speaker.
And I've sent Jason a message.
He did have some important calls, so we might have just run over a few minutes.
We can give him a minute or get started.
Okay, Adam, I'll see you in the chat, Adam and Mal, do you want to introduce yourself while
I'm the chief technology officer working with the platform chain and node teams here at Gala.
I've been with Gala since almost the very beginning.
I just hit four years now.
So anything nerdy and blockchain and technology, I'm your man.
I've been with Gala for about three years now.
At least three years, I would say.
I'm one of the product strategists.
I was also one of the product managers for Townstar, one of our wonderful games.
And now I am mostly focused on, you know, speaking in places like this to try and find
people who want to build on Gala chain and then helping them actually get onto Gala chain
And yeah, we'll definitely talk about Gala chain today.
So just in terms of Certix, so we've worked with Gala chain for a while now.
We've done a couple of audits for you guys.
You have one of the top security scores on the Skynet security leaderboard coming in just
over 95, which I think puts you at number three.
You've got your KYC gold verification.
Yeah, two audits and then just a bunch of information that anyone who's interested in
learning more about the security side of things can check out.
So if you head over to Skynet.certix.com, you will see Gala right up there at the top
Let's discuss some of the latest developments in the Gala space.
And I was looking at the document that you put out, the blueprint, which is a great one.
27 pages of reflections and projections for Gala games and Gala chain.
Could you talk a little bit about that ecosystem blueprint?
Just speak about the broader vision and the industries, the facets of the industry that
you're targeting and moving into.
Yeah, you know, Jason actually put a lot into that.
And I see him here if he wants to speak to that question.
But, you know, to me, the blueprint is a commitment, a transparency, a communication artifact, a
I like that it's the past.
I missed half the question because I was kind of going between being a listener and being
And there's a little latency there.
So I guess the question was mostly, let's talk about the blueprint.
I see Jason's copy on the document.
So no one better to hear from than you.
I wrote most of that, almost all of that.
But yeah, it's the gala blueprint.
Let me back up and give you a little bit of history.
For a really long time, we've been somewhat reluctant to sort of share a lot of what we're
doing with, with the community for fear that, you know, we would get ahead of ourselves.
Because in development, as you guys know, things change.
So you can have the absolute best of intentions and then have something requiring a pivot.
And people who are not technical in nature don't always understand that pivot.
So we've, traditionally speaking, never done roadmaps.
We've never done, you know, this is the thing that's going to happen at this point in time.
It's always sort of been a, hey guys, we're building stuff, come along for the ride.
And we've decided that we really need to look at things in a different way.
And we want it to be more transparent.
We want it to be more open with the community about everything that we're doing.
And kind of let them know a little bit of what's going on and what's been happening.
Because one of the things that we've noticed is that there's a bit of a perceptional gap
between what we're, what we are, which is a protocol level company building an L1 blockchain
that is able to service all sorts of things.
And the community perception of what we are, which is, you know, we are a gaming thing only.
And, you know, I mean, even if you look at sort of the way that, you know,
CoinGecko and CoinMarketCap sort of pigeonhole us, it's like, oh, blockchain, blockchain gaming,
blockchain gaming, blockchain gaming, which of course we are, but we're a lot more than that too.
And so the blueprint was really our way to come out and say, hey guys, this is what we're doing.
This is what we've done that you guys don't even know about yet.
And this is the direction that we're going in.
And we would absolutely love for all of you to come along.
So that's, that's basically what that was.
I mean, appreciate the, the insights.
And I think you're right that breaking out of perceptions can be a bit tricky sometimes,
especially when you establish yourself early on and in this space as well,
where everything moves quickly and people, you know, short memories, I guess,
but that's also opportunity.
That's opportunity to create something new.
So speak a little bit about the vision then, gaming, music, every, I mean,
this topic of the space is beyond gaming.
Well, one of the, in order to do that, you need to understand a little bit of,
of the, where the gaming portion comes from.
Why gaming to begin with?
When we first started out, we had a tremendous reservoir of gaming experience.
You know, our founder, Eric is one of the co-founders of Zynga.
And, you know, we, we have, and, and still to this day have a tremendous amount of deep
And what that, you know, and you, you kind of start with what you know, right?
Like, you know, why would you be people that have a ton of gaming experience and then try
to do something in med tech, for example, right?
So we started off with this goal to build a blockchain that would work for gaming.
Because if you can handle the throughput that gaming requires, you can handle the throughput
that pretty much any other industry requires.
One of the things that I said in the blueprint is, you know, the, if you look at the number of
transactions that are required for a day playing Farmville versus the number of transactions
required for a year at tracking every single container that moves through the port of Hong
Kong, it's not even close.
A single day of gaming, you know, is orders of magnitude more data than, you know, an entire
year of logistics running through the port of Hong Kong, which is kind of a crazy statistic
when you think about it, right?
So we started off with that.
And then, you know, once we had built something that could work for that, and that is Gala
Chain, we began saying, okay, well, what else are we doing here?
We looked at adjacent industries and we consider anything in entertainment adjacent to gaming
because they are all interrelated, whether they're typically considered to be by sort of
everybody else or not, because all games have music.
All movies have music, you know, it all kind of connects together.
And so, you know, we started looking at that as the next step.
And then now is we're going even beyond that, where we're, you know, connecting with all sorts
of, you know, other industries that are working across our node ecosystem and things like that.
So it's, it's, it's really, it's, it's a lot of fun.
It's a, it's a fascinating, uh, it's a fascinating evolution to be a part of.
I was going to say evolution, uh, good, good choice of word there.
So maybe Adam, um, I mean, we've touched on Gala Chain a little bit.
Uh, let's talk a little bit about the technical aspects and, and, um, what the problems that
Gala Chain solves are and, uh, the opportunities that it presents as well.
So, yeah, so, you know, what we set out to do with Gala Chain was build a, you know, strong
foundation with, uh, automation security, with capabilities, with, uh, developer ergonomics
is actually a phrase that I use pretty often.
Um, you know, any programmers in the audience will know how important that is, but easy to
Um, and then a key like facet of Gala Chain is it's, it's horizontal scalability.
It's horizontal sharding.
So Gala Chain is not a single ledger.
Anyone who's seen some of the block explorers that have come out in our community now and
our own block explorer, you'll see the concept of channels, which we're kind of, uh, trying
to rebrand as ISO chains.
ISO chains, uh, sounds so cool.
But isolated individual ledgers with the same underlying foundation that, you know, because
of that horizontal scalability can really go to any level, right?
Uh, you, you just add on more chains to do more almost with no, with no end.
It is not a single peer-to-peer network like, uh, chains that you're more familiar with in
So, you know, the, the sky is the limit kind of capacity wise, um, the sky is the limit
as far as, uh, developer productivity.
Anyone who's gotten into our SDK, maybe participated in the hackathon that we did this week.
Um, we did just publish an SDK, check it out.
Uh, but you know, one of the amazing things about that is literally you just open the project
in VS code and then it hooks into Docker and launches the chain, a block explorer, a graph
So I'm going to get into all sorts of jargon, but, um, literally just drops you into a development
environment, ready to go, ready to write smart contracts, ready to write applications against
Um, and you can use familiar, comfortable programming languages like TypeScript.
You know, TypeScript is one of those, one of the most popular languages in the world.
Um, it's more, uh, modern web application development space, but people who have those skills can suddenly
transfer them to, um, blockchain development and, uh, all of the things that they expect
and know just work as compared to something like trying to learn solidity, which is very
opinionated about certain things or trying to pick up rust in order to develop on something
So it's meant to be hugely capable, easy to use, easy to get started, familiar to the
Um, and really it's, it, it comes out of the box with token semantics like a fungible and
non-fungible tokens are obviously first-class citizens in the SDK that we provide, but it
doesn't even have to be that way.
It is, it is a foundation that can do almost anything.
You know, that's why I think Jason brings up the Hong Kong aspect pretty frequently of
like if you're tracking logistics or other, um, types of non-tokenized, uh, workflows or,
or patterns, it can do that too.
This, you know, what you can adapt it to is really quite endless.
I don't know beyond gaming.
There's a lot of places where you can go beyond gaming with GalaChain.
I think, uh, all the developers in the audience and, uh, those building on GalaChain will really
appreciate the, the efforts you've made to make it accessible and, uh, easy to use straight
out of the box, as you mentioned.
Um, so that's, uh, that's on the developer side, making it easy for them to get involved,
to build on GalaChain to create.
Now, how about for users?
Because I think one of the things that we've noticed or witnessed in, in the evolution
of, uh, blockchain entertainment and art is, uh, the, sometimes you need, you need a reason
for why it should be on blockchain.
And, uh, I think some projects have not necessarily always communicated that or the benefits of the
blockchain of why their exact platform is built on blockchain.
So maybe, uh, uh, yeah, if we can speak a little bit about how you are incentivizing,
you know, um, users to come across to, to use GalaChain to, and to feel the benefits of,
of the technology stack that it's built on.
I think one of the things that's really important when we look at why blockchain is kind of this
weird question that exists, um, you know, as to why, why not maybe is, is probably,
the better question, you know, blockchain should be something that is, you know, easy and
accessible and adaptable to pretty much any, uh, you know, scenario that you would care to
It doesn't, it shouldn't just be a, you know, this is only a, a Roy boy, you know, type thing,
or it's only blockchain because you want to do a token sale.
It's our only blockchain because, well, shit, how else are we going to get money out of it?
Um, you know, blockchain should be something that is a critical part of, you know, the
tech stack because decentralization is something that is, is, uh, you know, a, a, a, of tremendous
benefit to every industry.
It makes it more resilient, more anti-fragile, uh, more resistant to, you know, the, you know,
And so, you know, everything really honestly should be that.
For us, one of the things that we're, we're focusing on is that ease of onboarding, you
know, how do we make it so that the blockchain to the average user is invisible?
You know, I went to go play a game yesterday or something that somebody had sent me to test.
And in order to play it, I had to go, um, buy a token, take that token and, um, you know,
initiate a transaction to, uh, it's just like, God, it was such a pain in the ass just to
get started, especially with a brand new thing.
Um, and so, you know, we don't want, we don't want that.
We want it to be as simple and easy to use as possible.
You know, and to touch on that more, I spend a lot of my days speaking to people who want
And a lot of the times they're at that point, like you say, where they, they want to be on
blockchain, but they don't know why and often it's just because it's, they just need explaining
They might not understand the technical side, the benefit of something, the reasoning.
So I've found that once you just sit people down and speak to them and go through various
reasons for different products and projects, whatever it is, they kind of start realizing
But I feel like a bit like maybe early internet where people just didn't see the points or didn't
And then as soon as you explain it to them, it catches on, which I've found a bit of
been a wonderful thing to speak to so many people.
It's once you explain to them or once they sort of hear like the different reasons, then
they're just super interested, which I think as the time goes on, people will just become
I think it's just like, it's half early and half like people need to, like, like Jason
was saying, it's so like, it can be so techie sometimes just to do a basic thing, like play
Once people get beyond that and things are a bit smoother and a bit more education exists
in the broader Web 2 world.
And I feel like people will understand like why they want to.
I think that the tide is changing right now, like streaming services, centralized kind of
Web 2 traditional companies.
like people are getting more and more fed up every day with the feeling of like you're
being gamed for engagement or you are being given a license to watch something on a streaming
service or you buy something, you buy a music track on a streaming service and you have it
in your library just until some licensing agency decides that they don't want to offer that
And it gets yoinked one day.
Like people are getting burned more and more by that as the kind of traditional centralized
Web 2 ecosystem is overflowing with like competition and venture capitalist funded companies that
are, that have burnt down their cash piles and are now trying to monetize everything they
can mostly with advertisements and engagement metrics and kind of dark patterns and things
People are getting fed up with it and I don't think they know it yet, but Web 3 and blockchain
technology really is the answer.
Like you cannot have something taken away from you without your willful interaction, without,
you know, signing something, you know, verifying that you approve of it.
So anyway, I think it's going to be a natural flow of audience, you know, natural flow from
the Web 2 ecosystem to the Web 3 ecosystem as the current powers that be in Web 2 just kind
of burn out their goodwill with people.
I think, I think that's a great point.
And I was just, I was on TikTok the other day and sort of an, as an example of how some of these
major Web 2 or even older companies are sort of struggling to navigate the transition to the way,
I mean, I think a lot of these, so the, the example I was thinking of was Universal basically
pulling all of its music catalog from TikTok, meaning that every single video made with a
Universal sound or an artist represented by Universal was suddenly muted and the video is
And it really highlights the, I mean, that wasn't a decision by the artist.
That was a decision by the label.
I think it really, you can imagine very easily a situation where you, there's more, there's a
Artists are fairly compensated and, and you just have a more functional ecosystem that,
that encourages creativity rather than stifles it, I think.
So, yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm really interested in what you guys are building here in, at the
sort of intersection of art, entertainment, technology.
And as you mentioned, I think Web 3 does provide a lot of answers.
Mal, maybe if you just, you could run us through like some of the conversations that you do have.
You said, um, people get the idea once you present it in the right way.
What, what are some of the ways that you sort of send that message and the most effective
Most of the time, it's just, they, they have a, in a lot of cases, gaming so far.
So they're like, you know, what part of the game would be on blockchain?
They don't understand, you know, that there's nodes, for example, Jason, or probably other
You could speak very well onto nodes and how useful that is, but like, they just have no idea
of the benefits of like nodes or some of them aren't familiar with NFTs and how that can
Um, just, just the various like smart contracts for like, you know, in games, I don't know
if I'd runescape, uh, back in a day, I would have loved to, you know, you have smart contracts
I believe they eventually brought someone similar out.
Uh, but like just these type of trustless systems that make sense, um, like renting and the
ability to use someone else's thing without even knowing them, as I said, NFTs nodes, so
many like various little things that people just do not know or a thing that they can
put in their game or, uh, in terms of all the prior projects that like come in.
So it's, it's mostly around like what they've got, why does it, where does the chain come
They have, they've focused so much on their project, which is fair enough.
They're now just starting to try to understand the second half, which is I usually just say,
Like, what is it you actually doing?
And then I will try and pull in my experience and my knowledge into what I would do if it was
maybe me or the things that are just available to them.
Uh, cause a lot of the time people are trying to either save, save costs or like nodes can
help with that, but like servers, uh, Adam can probably explain that better.
Why nodes are great for like various projects and games and stuff like that.
Uh, I like the, there's the fun side of collectibles, the, you know, having, knowing that you've
got number one or number 10 of something, there's just all the small niches.
I would say that people lack the knowledge of, and then there's the overall, uh, Y, Y,
So I feel like once you explain to them properly in a, sometimes it takes a few times, uh, sometimes
they understand straight away, you know, everyone's different.
It depends on their, on their background as well.
Some people are just so webbed too, and they're just hearing about this.
They hear a blockchain game and or just blockchain products in general, uh, and they just sort
of dive in head first, but they haven't had that like couple of months where they've,
you know, read around whatever ecosystem.
So it just depends, but the biggest one I find is just listen to what they, what they're
doing and then just, just, uh, interject with things that they could use that they don't
have to, but that they could.
And they often seem to, they, once you get them started, they, they sort of run off on
themselves and of what they're going to do.
I think a lot of people of a certain age will have some very painful memories of, uh, of
RuneScape getting wrecked on RuneScape that might make, uh, might make the benefits of
of, of web three and smart contracts, uh, very apparent to them.
Um, so in the blueprint, uh, you guys touch on founders nodes quite a lot.
Could, could you explain to the audience, uh, the role of founders nodes in, in the Gala
Um, so founders nodes essentially power the entire Gala ecosystem.
And in fact, uh, power, a lot of web three, whether most of web three knows it or not.
Um, right now, if you were to look at our founders node ecosystem, uh, in depth, you
would find that we, uh, uh, as of right now power about 50% of all of the DHT routing for
So it's the interplanetary file system.
So most of your NFT projects, uh, that are based on IPFS where you upload your graphics and
pin them and things like that.
Most of that is being, uh, you know, essentially, um, pushed, uh, through our, our node ecosystem.
And that's something that we're, we're quite proud of.
Um, but the, the founders nodes themselves also, as this ecosystem continues to evolve,
we'll do more and more, uh, to support the growth of the, the, well, to support the ecosystem.
I mean, from running ISO chains to, uh, performing certain functions.
Anytime anyone wants to bridge something, um, there's a, there's a lot that they do.
Um, but the other cool thing is, is that that same basic substrate, uh, serves to support,
uh, games that are building on Gala chain.
And it's, it's a very interesting, uh, prospect for a lot of games because the way that typically
if you have an L1 or L2 project out there and they, you know, want to incentivize a game,
they offer them a grant, right?
This is like the normal thing.
We'll give you a grant for X amount of money for, for this thing, right?
But the problem with that is that you give them that grant, um, in a token, right?
And it's either locked or it damages your own ecosystem through, you know, like you, you don't
want to give somebody a grant that they then go and have to immediately market dump to pay
So then what ends up happening is projects have to do an ICO.
ICOs are tremendously problematic from a regulatory perspective.
Even if there's a way to do it in a, you know, compliant fashion, um, you know, a lot
of people mess that up and it's, it's very possible to mess up.
And so what, uh, what you're able to do through the sale of a node is you're able to essentially
create an opportunity, um, sorry, you're essentially able to create an opportunity for somebody to,
uh, you know, basically have a compliant offering of nodes to raise funding without there being
And without having a stupid, you know, broken ass ICO tokenomics model where you've meant
to get your entire supply up front.
And then you have to do all of these things like burn it to get it.
It's just, uh, it gets very messy very quickly.
And so we're able to, you know, create a different ways, um, to handle this.
Now, what's really interesting is that, you know, the node ecosystem can make it so that you as a project can
reduce your costs in addition to raise funds.
So for example, last expedition is a, one project built on Gala chain, it's a, uh, PVP, PVE first person shooter.
Um, super fun, ridiculously fun.
They run an entire, uh, node ecosystem that, um, that, uh, makes it so that they're, you know, when you play last expedition,
you're playing on a node run by someone in that ecosystem, you're not playing on a centralized server.
So last year when AWS East went down for a little bit, um, we didn't, you know, people were still able to play the game
and, uh, you know, do everything, uh, that you're supposed to be able to do in that game without there being
any sort of, uh, any sort of, uh, challenges or, or, you know, downtime.
And that's a, that's one of the things that comes built into the, the Gala chain concept.
So if you're interested in that, talk to Mal, he will, uh, help you out.
And you're, if you're a distributed systems engineer and you want to work on the node ecosystem, call me.
That's a great example of how, how the distributed system, the, the decentralization of the nodes, um,
maintains uptime when you've got AWS going down, centralized systems failing, decentralized systems,
So yeah, no, that's really cool.
Um, now let's, uh, so in terms of community, I'm sure community, you know, as a major focus of yours,
um, both in terms of developer community and user community, and you want to make the experience,
uh, as seamless, as productive as possible for both.
What are some of the ways that you, um, you know, address community needs, hear their voices
and, uh, and just incorporate them into the whole ecosystem?
I mean, I, we use discord as one of our, as all one of our main communication channels
and it has been for a long time.
Uh, I also have a lot of conversations.
They know they can reach out to us, uh, privately.
Some people don't want to discuss, you know, their ideas or their issues in public.
So they often, uh, come and DM us, which as a note, we never DM anyone first.
We're always about, you know, just scammers are a big thing.
So we have, excuse me, we have a lot of people reach out to us anyway, uh, and come and speak
to us, which is, which is a wonderful thing.
Uh, people are more willing to share in private, uh, for, you know, for, for obvious reasons.
So that, that's one of the main ways we, we speak.
We use, uh, like communication methods like this, Twitter, there's other social platforms,
but the main place you can really speak to us is, is via the discord.
But Jason is also someone who travels around and meets a lot of people in person as well.
He's known for his great events and buying everyone food and beers and being a great
host, uh, hopefully more of those will get to happen.
So we, we try our best to communicate in as many ways as possible.
Uh, but the main one is just, you know, when people reach out, uh, just listen to them,
And we've always tried to do our best at that.
I have many great friends just from, you know, listening to them, uh, when they, when they
come in, uh, you know, even the complaints, Jason's also someone who deals with people.
If anyone's got a complaint, he will go in there and listen as well.
So will all the other gala stuff, you know, there's, there's that nice environment where
if people want to ask to felt they can.
Uh, and I think that's what helps build the community when, when something's not right
or someone's going well or everything in between, it's always a welcoming space where
you can just, you know, do that, which I think is very important, especially when you
want to build, if you've got, you know, if you need technical questions, you've got the
gala chain channel where you get to meet our wonderful chain developers will be in
there, uh, answering all the questions they can same for games, music, film.
There's always someone there ready to help answer your questions.
And we've got amazing mods as well, uh, in the gala community will definitely, uh, give
Great to hear that people can get involved and get answers to their questions and, uh,
get help with, with whatever they're working on.
Um, so this wouldn't be a CERTIC space without touching on security.
Um, obviously security is a paramount concern when, when it comes to building blockchain
systems, um, something that you guys take very seriously and, and, um, and prioritize.
What are some of the, the considerations that you, that you had in mind when building, designing,
Um, obviously I, I'm sure you have some relatively complex, you know, smart contract interactions
with, with the platforms that you build.
So yeah, it'd be interesting to hear some of the unique sort of, uh, facets that you
had to consider when, when coaching gala chain.
Yeah, I can speak to a little bit of that.
I mean, it's, it's all about testing and from multiple angles, uh, you know, we have a
very robust end to end testing framework around basically every interaction that you can do
Um, we get, um, penetration tests done regularly.
Uh, we have our, uh, contracts audited, uh, both on the Ethereum side and the gala chain
Um, it is something that is maybe not the sexy part of the work, but an absolute necessity.
And we spend a lot of time on it.
Like it is not to be trifled with I'm sometimes the one that is slowing things down and needing
more time because you can't mess this stuff up, right?
It, it has to work cleanly, smoothly, securely, and, you know, verifiably with, with auditability.
So, um, we're all thinking about it constantly and so far I think are reaping the benefits
Like, um, it is, it's working well.
It is, uh, I mean, we're number three on the leaderboard.
We, with that gold badge, it looks pretty good.
So I think, uh, we're doing our, our, our part to make it, uh, appeal a bit more to people,
It is, it is so important, you know, and, uh, an application that is not secure, isn't
It's not going to, it's not going to work when you need it to work.
So, um, it really needs to be number one on top.
Let's not rank priorities too much, but, uh, it needs to be a top priority for sure.
So it's great to hear that you guys are, um, you know, reaping the benefits of, of the
Um, anything else that you guys, any of you, Jason, Adam, Mal would like to touch on, um,
any, you know, announcements.
I know you just, uh, published a blog post inviting developers to use the SDK, uh, any
other news you'd like to share with the audience while we have them?
I'm just, it's, it's what we can leak at the moment.
I was just hoping Jason pipes up for that one.
Cause there's so many great things.
There, there's, there's, I'm, I'm having to keep myself on mute here because I am working
in person with a lot of people talking about a lot of things.
And I, I want to make sure, uh, no, that's okay.
You guys can keep talking.
I've been keeping you muted.
So they don't hear the, the, the thing or the other thing or the other thing.
Um, but yeah, there's, there's a lot that we've got going on right now and we're, we're connecting
with, we're rolling out into the web three world more and more and building, building
connections and bridges between, between us and, uh, everybody else in the space because,
you know, we recognize that the future, uh, is multi-chain and that all of this works better
And so you're going to see a lot more, uh, of, of us connecting with a much broader world
and, and we're here for it.
We're looking forward to it.
And, uh, it's going to be good times.
A couple of, a couple of things near and dear to my heart.
Um, you know, we just launched our SDK, of course, go check it out.
You just pull it down, install some dependencies and you're ready to rock on Galachain.
Um, it really could almost not be easier.
We just completed a hackathon online.
We are doing another hackathon at GDC, which is coming up at the end of next month.
Um, I'll be there in person.
We're going to, it'll be, it'll be there too.
Yes, there will be beer, but there will also be massive amounts of code slung.
Um, and then another big initiative that's dear to my heart is, uh, what we're calling
So the, the idea that, you know, maybe you're not a chain developer, maybe you don't need
to write your own smart contracts, but it's a tool set where you can build your own, uh,
you know, your own entertainment experiences integrated with Galachain, integrated with all
of our tooling, um, really easy to use stuff.
So if you're a game developer that wants to kind of dabble and use stuff out of the box
and not necessarily get into all the nitty gritty details of blockchain, we've got an
That, uh, is something I've been working on for a long time now.
And that's, that's, uh, creators.gala.com.
Uh, you can go and find, you should just check it out anyway.
And if you might not necessarily be a builder, maybe you decide to, uh, and just to touch on
that, I think it's, that's been one of the most popular things when speaking to a lot
of the people who have wanted to build on chain is the fact that you don't have to be
Uh, and that's, I think important for the lack of free, you know, removing friction and
making so that the wider world can come in.
Uh, so that's something definitely was one of the greater announcements of recently that
made me very happy anyway.
Uh, and a lot of other people.
Uh, thanks for the, the links.
And, uh, I also encourage everyone, if you want to see that shiny gold badge, making security
cool again, uh, head over to skynet.certic.com.
You'll see Gala right there.
You can also type it into the search bar, explore all their security metrics, read the audit reports,
get a, get a handle on the, on the, uh, security of Gala and then, uh, go create, go play,
go, um, enjoy, you know, what, what's being built here.
Uh, it's been really great to witness the evolution of Gala, you know, since, since the
beginning of our partnership.
And, uh, I think you guys are building something really important and doing it the right way.
And I look forward to seeing what the future holds.
Shout out, shout out to your team over at Certic.
You guys have been an absolute joy to work with.
Um, you have caught some interesting things and we've made changes and improved security
from it and, uh, just keep up the good work fighting the good fight.
I'll pass that on to our technical team.
Thanks everybody for joining us.
Um, any, any last links you mentioned the, uh, creator portal, uh, anywhere else that
you can direct people before we sign off.
I'd like to invite everybody to come hang out in our discord at galagames.chat.
Uh, there's, there's a ton going on there and, uh, we're pretty much always in there
We also have galachain.com, uh, which you'll be getting a revamp as will gala.com.
There'll be tons of stuff coming there.
If people want to just check them out until the new stuff comes in, there'll be some good
And I believe there's new, is it, do you know the news link off the top of your head, Jason?
I know it's hard to remember.
I mean, you know, the new, the news place with the news, the galanews on the.com.
So yeah, make sure you check out news.gala.com.
We are pushing lots of information there so people can have an easy place to keep up with
what's, what's being done, what's going on, what's coming and all those good things.
Thanks for the, um, the, you know, uh, blueprint as well, which everyone can read.
Uh, thanks for all the links and, uh, yeah, it's been a great discussion.
So, uh, appreciate everyone's time and for joining us.
Look forward to doing this again as well in a, in a little while when we've got some more
developments to share and, uh, the future is, it looks exciting.
I think, yeah, thank you guys so much.