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Galxe x Kadena: Hello Kadena
Recorded: May 21, 2025 Duration: 0:42:18Space Recording
Short Summary
Kadena is making waves in the crypto space with its $50 million grant program and the launch of ChainWeb EVM, aimed at enhancing scalability and developer accessibility. The Hello Kadena campaign, featuring the distribution of 100,000 KDA tokens, is set to engage users and drive growth within the ecosystem.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Hello, hello, welcome, welcome.
Hello, hello. Welcome, welcome. Thank you for taking some time to join us on a lovely Wednesday
slash Thursday morning, afternoon, or night, depending on where you're located. This is
another Galaxy Twitter space. We're going to be speaking with Kadena today a fantastic very interesting project we have a few guests with us today we
have uh mike harren and robin herning we're going to be chatting with uh them today gonna be a a
nice discussion we're going to be starting in just a moment here just making sure that we have both speakers up before I begin, but just wanted to give a quick intro there.
I see we have one. Just let's make sure we have the other up. Just one moment.
or mike if you are up as speaker on yours and it's just not showing uh just speak up and let
me know oh there we go awesome okay um you guys know me weatherboy or duncan from the Galaxy community. I see here we do have Mike up and we do have Robin up.
So for the questions today, I'll just preemptively mention that I will ask the question and then
Mike or Robin, you guys can just feel free to field them as you like, okay? So let's start with
an intro, though.
This will be super easy.
We can go one by one here for sure.
Let's get a quick intro to yourselves and a bit of your background.
Yeah, for sure.
Can you guys hear me okay?
Yeah.
Okay, perfect.
First of all, thank you so much for having us.
Robin and I are very, very excited to be here talking with you and your listeners.
So I guess I can start. This is probably the easiest one I can field, which is good for me.
So my name is Mike Heron, born and raised in the Chicagoland area in Illinois in the United States.
Basically been a marketer in some way, shape or form since I graduated in the late 90s.
Worked with big Fortune 500 companies, privately owned, publicly traded.
Worked for small companies, been an entrepreneur, worked client side, worked agency side.
Came into the Web3 space back in, I don't know, probably late 2019, early 2020 for a small blockchain startup.
Built a marketing team from scratch, one to 13 people
in a year. This was sort of the height of the crypto frenzy. We were able to close a Series E
at a little over $1.2 billion, which was pretty cool. So I've worked for a couple of other smaller
crypto companies doing the same thing. One shut their doors down in 2023. I did some consulting work and some product launches in the same space
around some DeFi frontends.
Was brought into Kadena about two years ago.
Been here ever since.
Love to have your minute of it.
Amazing.
I appreciate the colored,
very experienced background.
Looking forward to hearing more from you
today for sure Robin feel free to go next yeah well first of all can you guys
hear me fine yes that's perfect hello everyone glad to be here on this space a
quick intro to myself before I got into crypto. I went to school to become a pharmaceutical
technical assistant worked in a pharmacy for almost three years, but I felt like there's
more out there. So I started studying social work. And it was the very beginning of 2020 um so when basically everyone got into lockdown so i had a lot of time um to
yeah research stuff and i i was trying to find something that um yeah where i could make some
money besides the job that i had and yeah that's that way i found cryptocurrencies. And early 2021, I found Cadena, they had a fun campaign running to get
some KDA. And I participated. And I also got encouraged to join the ambassador program. And I
started creating graphics, videos, and posted on social media. And over time, I did more and more.
And ultimately, I ended up as a team member. So for one and a half years now i've been working
with and for the community created campaigns and other fun activities for the community
and now we're here with the biggest one at galaxy which i'm really excited about
Now that that's fantastic. I love hearing stories like that, where the experience of being more involved with the community leads to working together as a team.
We actually have one of my other teammates was a similar aspect early on, actually, where we ended up working together so closely through the community that he joined the team as well.
So it's always just a really fantastic experience to see like how,
how good we can become together for sure. So that's,
that's an awesome background for sure. I appreciate that.
Yeah, no doubt. I mean, we actually have,
we actually have quite a few people from the community that we've brought in.
We've got some developers that have learned Pact.
Our director of content was from the community.
So, yeah, we've really embraced it.
It's great. They sort of know all about us.
They know what we're about, so it makes the onboarding piece definitely a little bit easier.
No, that's definitely for sure. You definitely know they understand you for sure. That's a great
point. No, that's fantastic, honestly. I'm super on board with that. I really resonate with that.
And yeah, I'm glad we get a chance to chat today chat today for sure let's dive into uh cadena for or cadena for those that
uh don't know yet what um cadena is can you give us just your best intro into the project
sure um i definitely can so um there are multiple ways to pronounce our name um i say cadena, others say cadena. I've heard other interpretations.
Essentially, right, it means chain in Spanish.
So we were founded here in the United States back in 2016 by two gentlemen named Stuart Popejoy and Will Martino.
Prior to starting this company, right, they had these small little, you know, unimportant jobs. They created JP Morgan's first blockchain.
They were the leaders of the SEC's crypto committee.
So they had some pretty substantial, very high level jobs and sort of building the framework of our industry.
and sort of building the framework of our industry.
You know, they got together,
they had the foresight to sort of recognize,
you know, some of the potential challenges
that were coming down the pipeline in this industry.
And ironically enough,
they had worked together on a plan to solve that.
You know, scalability is really the biggest one
that I think everybody, you know, sort of sees today.
But essentially, right, what they built,
we like to call it the only truly gas-optimized,
fully scalable proof-of-work layer one.
And that's a mouthful, but it's really sort of important.
So we have this sort of parallel chain architecture
and we've created our own native smart contract language. And the
desire there was to sort of combine the best of both worlds, right? So it's the Ethereum and the
Bitcoin ecosystems and sort of theories, you know, sort of all rolled into one. So this allows us to
be more decentralized. It allows us to be more secure. It allows us to be more energy efficient as we
scale. So it's been a fun road. We've had a tremendous amount of access, especially early on.
We've really been heads down just building ever since, growing our community, building cutting
edge products, partnering with, you know, killer organizations like you guys at Galaxy. I mean,
we've been working on this with you guys for a really long time. You know, we're in the sports world. We're working with global sports organizations like the
Croatian men's national football team, which we have a long-term partnership agreement with.
We're developing RWA standards to service our institutional clients. So we really are sort of
the best of all worlds layer one from where we see it. And it's been quite the ride to this point.
Obviously the market has been up and down,
industry trends change
and obviously nothing changes faster than our industry.
But we're really poised for what we think
is really exponential growth over the next coming quarters.
We just launched a $50 million grant program.
We've got a ton of huge announcements coming out very, very shortly. So, you know, like I tell
people, if you're interested in Cadena, right now is the time to get involved because there is so
much coming down the pipeline so quickly for us. No, I can definitely tell. And yeah, I completely agree with the sentiment there and having so many interesting and different avenues that you really can go down.
And I think that during the roller coaster of the market, it really does make for a great experience at the same time.
So I'm definitely with you there.
Yeah, now is an exciting time for sure.
And so my next question for you, Mike, in specific, I know you have over 20 years of experience, but in a space like this, you know, beyond that 20 years of experience coming into a space like this, do you feel like a lot of that translated towards
working on Kadena in specific? Or was it kind of maybe a big undertaking for you when you
made that shift?
Yeah, you know, it's a great question. And I always get weirded out when I hear 20 plus
years because it's been a really, really long time. And I never would have realized I would have been at this sort of point in my career.
But I mean, I think that I think there's a couple of different a couple of different
things we could sort of unpack here.
Right.
First of all, I was always taught that marketing is simple.
Right.
It's the right message to the right target on the right platform at the right time.
Right.
It's super simple in theory, but ridiculously complicated in practice. So while those fundamentals that I learned, you know, a hundred years ago,
now it seems they haven't really changed, you know, Web3, crypto, blockchain, whatever you
want to call it, it's a completely different animal when it comes to the tactics that we use
for success. So, you know, like I've been, I've been lucky enough and, and, you know,
and I always give all sort of props and credit to my team, but like,
I rely on people like Robin and I rely on everybody else on my team to sort of
execute the vision. You know, they really,
I really try to give them the autonomy to select the channels and the tactics
that make most sense to them to accomplish our goals. Right. I'm, I sort of the crypto dinosaur, and I know some of my flutters and haters will pick up on that.
But, you know, marketing is really about just testing things, right?
So sometimes they work, sometimes they don't.
But we test, we fail fast.
So, you know, I really think the thing that helped us the most, and again, I don't want to speak for my team, is my background is very strategic, right?
So my leadership style, you know, I've had some terrible leaders in my career and I've had some fantastic ones.
But like my understanding of how different levels of companies work, how marketing agencies, you know, have worked, you know, having been, you know, on both sides of the aisle, right?
I think it's been a big value to our business and our team.
You know, I'm older, so I don't need to take the credit, right?
I want everybody to succeed.
And I'm probably, I coined a term a long time ago, I'm a macro manager, not a micro manager.
So, you know, all of the, all of
the praise, you know, goes to the team, right. And, you know, they're always, you know, they're
always grinding hard. You know, the struggle in this space, right, is we've got to keep up with
trends, the lingo, the platforms, the inside jokes, you know, again, my team's fantastic at
handling those things. You know, and I give them a ball, you know, the subject matter experts, and they really run their verticals how they see fit. You know, I oversee strategy,
they oversee execution, and they do a great job. You know, I think the other big difference that
was, you know, something that I was not prepared for, and I think other folks in this space can
probably relate to it, is, you know, the difference between Web 2 and Web 3 is really the community. You know, in Web 2, you know, you had one person you report to, right?
It's the CEO. In Web 3, I have thousands of bosses, right? Everyone in this space has an opinion.
Everyone knows better than we do. You know, I can't imagine how many times I've seen when marketing,
and it's like, guys, you don't want to really understand
what marketing truly is if you don't think we're marketing.
So there's certainly been a lot of really great support
from the community and some that are right there
along with us to celebrate our successes.
But I think, again, a little bit of a black eye
for the Web3 community, and again, something that I've had to sort of focus past is there's a lot of people out there that cheer for our failures, right?
Like other sort of similar companies, right?
We can all be successful.
So I think those are probably a couple of the key differences, some of the positives that I brought into this role and the business and some of the things that I've struggled with. No, I completely agree. I think that it's just an entirely different, it's a more
connected landscape and there are definitely some positives and some tough negatives to deal with
and begin to understand.
And sometimes you almost have to step outside yourself
when you realize how many people we are interacting with daily
that can have a voice.
And I think that it is really powerful for the online general consumer
these days to have that larger voice.
And it's the big disconnect,
I think, between the two and the three, for sure. I mean, I think that the beautiful part of it,
though, is that there is so much positivity that can come from it, right? We just recently had,
you know, a terrible situation in our community where a beloved community member, you know,
terrible situation in our community where a beloved community member, you know, unfortunately
passed away and, you know, seeing that community come together and pool their resources to
support his family.
And, you know, that's the other side of this that, you know, a lot of people don't see
is, you know, we do care about each other, right?
Like I understand, you know, the financial investments and, you know, people, you know, blaming others for decisions. But like, you know, at the end of it, it's whether
it's online, whether it's in person, right? Like, we really are friendly, and we care about each
other. And you don't necessarily get that in the other space, right? It's yeah, you'll have your
GoFundMes and whatnot. But like, you know, you have an opportunity as an individual in our community
to really touch the lives of other people. And it, you know, it have an opportunity as an individual in our community to really touch the lives of other people.
And it sort of brings you back down to earth and makes you think about, you know, what's really important.
I completely agree.
We, you know, yeah, it does come down to us being people at the end of the day, for sure.
And my condolences in that sense for that member of your community.
It's really nice to hear that everybody came together for sure.
Yeah, that's what it's all about, definitely.
And so, honestly, love your answer.
I can tell you a lot of passion here for sure
when it comes to finding that balance
of strategy and execution for sure. I'd love to hear
that. I completely agree on that kind of outlook when it comes to working with a team and a boss
and finding that comfortability for sure. And so now let's talk about Cadena a little bit more here.
We'll get into a little bit of those kind of gritty details before we dive into the campaign.
When you say on the Cadena website that Cadena is the only blockchain capable of powering global finance, how do you back up that claim?
That's a big claim.
It's a big term. It's really tough, right? Let us, let us know what goes into that. Definitely. I've been
talking a lot, so I'll answer this one and then I want to hear Robin as an opportunity, but of course,
you know, I mean, first of all, as the marketer, right, you got to love marketing speak, you know,
and I really think that, you know,
you know, our job as marketers is to tell a story. And the fact that that stands out to someone that visits our website, right, is really powerful. And that at the end of it is really
sort of about what marketing is, right? It's what we talked about earlier. I'm trying to capture
your attention and get you to learn more about something. So, so if I, if I sort of rewind,
right, when we look at I sort of rewind, right?
When we look at the fundamentals of blockchain, right?
And when we talk about we're the only blockchain
that can do this at scale, you know,
there's been pros and cons, right?
Bitcoin and Ethereum, right?
Vitalik calls it the blockchain trilemma.
You know, the three most important aspects, you know,
our security, scalability, decentralization, right?
Everybody knows about those. We always talk about a fourth, which we call programmability, right? And, you
know, native programmability, where you can build the smart contracts you want to execute whatever
you need. So while Bitcoin, right, nobody's going to argue that it's a tremendous decentralized
financial storage solution. I mean, obviously, they just hit all time high again, which I think we all
can aspire to. It's also backed by this rock solid security of proof of work. And I know years back,
proof of work was sort of a bad word and now it's coming back, but it wasn't programmable. It wasn't
the most scalable. Ethereum on the flip side, way more programmable, solidity-based smart contracts,
but scalability still remains that massive issue.
Even, you know, after they've introduced side chains,
L2s, which are nowhere near decentralized and the like, right?
So, you know, because of this,
decentralization is severely compromised
in order to handle that volume.
So our blockchain is called ChainWeb,
and it's built on the same proof of work concept as Bitcoin, which is the Nakamoto consensus.
So we've got the security side handled that global finance needs to be comfortable and
successful, right? Our system's been operating for over five years now without a real full-scale outage.
So to handle this scalability, which is massive, and this is what drives gas prices high,
is the fact that these platforms aren't scalable.
We've compromised, in ChainWeb, 20 different horizontally scalable chains.
Now, these act completely independent of each other.
They're gas optimized to provide
the lowest possible transaction fees.
Our transaction fees currently are, you know,
microscopic percentages of a cent, you know,
and when these chains become overloaded,
we can simply add more chains with a single line of code
to handle any throughput needed.
Very cool.
So the idea here is really is like, we've got that understanding of the fundamentals,
right?
We've scaled from two chains to 10 chains to 20 chains.
We've scaled to 10,000 chains in a testnet scenario.
We know that it's technically possible.
So we've added on to that back in the day, this proprietary smart language that we call
PACT. And the ironic part is when we talk about global finance, PACT was created
to work with the trading desk operators at JP Morgan. It's incredibly simple. It's human
readable. And when I say human readable, I don't mean like you can actually go in and read it, but like from a legal perspective, right? You can see where
things are at. So, so that's sort of where we've been and that's sort of part of where
we're basing that off of. But recently, right, as we're working to power the future of global
finance, we talked about and we introduced what we call ChainWeb EVM. We talked about and we introduced what we call ChainWeb EVM. We talked about that earlier this year, which is going to add another minimum of 20 EVM compatible chains for a total of 40.
I actually am hearing it could be considerably more than this number,
but I can't really say that publicly, but we got a lot of stuff going on in the background.
So what this means is our friends that are Solidity developers, right,
can simply deploy their dApps on ChainWeb EVM directly from Hard Hat
and reap all of these benefits that we have.
So this summer, we'll be launching a lot more news about ChainWeb EVM testnet
Testnet and a ton of really cool, well-known projects that are going to accompany this launch.
and a ton of really cool, well-known projects that are going to accompany this launch.
So taking a step back, we say we're the only blockchain capable of powering global finance.
It really isn't just marketing speak. So technically speaking, we could handle settlement of the entire
New York stock exchange today without breaking a sweat. That's how robust and scalable the system
is. And gas fees are
ridiculously low at the moment. Wow. Yeah. No, I can tell it's more than just marketing speak.
I definitely felt the passion there as well. It's a fun, I love the internet there to handle the
whole stock exchange. That was killer.
Thanks, man.
It's a great story, right?
And that's what I get excited about.
And, you know, the other thing, you know, I mentioned earlier, right, like we are proof of work, right? And we are sort of unapologetically proof of work.
And the beautiful part is Stu and Will had the foresight to really understand the struggles that Bitcoin is having.
Our platform actually becomes more efficient as it scales. So the stat that we always like to use is
like if you consider your home in the summertime, if you make a single transaction on Bitcoin,
it's the equivalent of like 22 days of electricity running your air conditioning unit
with with our proof of work system it's the equivalent of like 12 minutes
i mean it literally is is that energy efficient so we're gonna do a better job of telling that
story but yeah it's it's definitely not marketing speak no i i think you did a fantastic job. I feel the passion, honestly. And yeah, you really got to have it, right? So it's the space we're in. Yeah. It's been fantastic getting to hear from your side, Mike. And of course, now we can give Robin his spotlight as well. So I'm gonna throw this next question over to Robin.
Let's talk about the Kadena 14 week long campaign series
on Galaxy.
Can you give us the general rundown, Robin,
of the user's experience that they would have today
if they listened into this now
or even listened back to this later on and got involved.
Sure, absolutely. I just want to add, I could listen to Mike for hours and hours, but I'm
happy to take over. My wife doesn't agree with you, Rob.
So yeah, I'll try to keep this quite general. So our campaign has been designed to start really easy
and then grow in activity and things you can do.
So for the 14 week long campaign
that is called Hello Cadena, we have four sub campaigns.
And yeah, maybe I can talk about this later more in detail.
So for anyone that wants to join our campaign,
they can start with the very first one
that we launched last week.
And since most of the users in Web3
already have a Galaxy account,
they can just use their existing Galaxy account
that has an EVM wallet connected to it.
And if you don't have a
galaxy account it's super easy just connect an ebm wallet or a cadena wallet if you want to and then
do some social quests and collect some points um for the quest we launched this week you will
definitely need a cadena wallet but there are also. So it's super easy for you to get started.
And yeah, most of the quests are based on social engagement,
meaning following us or a project on SX,
liking and retweeting,
but also joining telegram groups and Discord servers.
So it's really, really easy for everyone to join.
And starting this week, we started with quests where you can mint NFTs and then at a later stage can win some KDA.
As we announced on the, yeah, as we announced it last week, we have 100,000 KDA that we want to give away this year. And yeah, that's
going to be starting in a few weeks. So no, that's definitely exciting. 100,000 KDA is definitely an
exciting number. Before we kind of go over like what the reward details might look like,
let's talk about the end goal of the campaign. So now that we have introduced the Hello Cadena, right,
and we understand that first campaign, what a user might be involved with today,
what does the end goal look like for a user that has gone through this whole series?
What did you want them to experience or achieve coming out the other side of this?
Yeah, that's a good question.
I think the goal of the campaign, first and foremost, is to experience the Kadena ecosystem and learn about it.
So as I mentioned before, we wanted to start with some easy
quests, and then dive deeper into the ecosystem, learning about other projects, but also using
them, right. So yeah, we want to create a fun experience that's not only for the new
users, but also for OG community members. And yeah yeah how do we want to achieve this i think it's mostly
through gasless experiences as mike mentioned before uh gas costs are pretty small in cadena
and on our gas on our blockchain we have gas stations where we can subsidize gas on the on
on behalf of the users so we want to give every user on Galaxy the same experience
when they interact with our blockchain using Galaxy.
And that's why we also have decided
to distribute KDA to as many users as possible
by distributing small but substantial amounts of KDA
to the winners of these raffles.
They can then use the KDA to interact with apps.
And then if they're lucky, they can win even more KDA.
So that's what it's all about.
Experience the Kdena ecosystem in a gasless way,
but also getting some KDA as a reward for it.
Amazing. No, I love that angle.
I think that using platforms like ours,
and I appreciate you guys taking the time to work with us in specific,
to almost walk with the user through your own ecosystem
is a fantastic experience.
And I'm looking forward to seeing many come out on the other end in a positive light and really convert to, you know, the cadena way.
Because I can tell you guys have a lot of passion there for sure in what you do and who doesn't love low gas fees right at the end of the
day I think some of those simplistic aspects really do hit home with a lot of fresh users
that might come on board during this and now talking a bit about obviously spreading the love
and letting people understand about KDA in specific let's go into the details around those four sub campaigns,
like you mentioned. People are going to get involved, they're going to hear 100k KDA and
probably get pretty excited. So let's maybe go into a little more details on Enterkadena,
Portal2Kadena, I believe Sparkle and then DeFi Legends.
Yeah, that's correct. So yeah, we launched the very first sub-campaign, Enter Kadena, last week,
and that will run for the entire 14 weeks.
So anyone that wants to join the campaign,
they can do that throughout the 14 weeks campaign,
just so we can make sure that everyone has the chance to participate.
And to this day, we already have around 90,000 participants,
which is really amazing.
And we never expected that much traction on that campaign.
So yeah, we're really happy about this.
So yeah, the very first campaign was about getting to know us at Cadena,
like find our X profile, join our Telegram community, join our Discord community,
and then also do a small quiz to learn about the really bare basics about Kadena.
So it's like a really easy entry to Kadena. That's what it was all about.
And with the launch of Portal to Kadena, which launched this week, we introduced wallets that you can use in the Kadena ecosystem.
And you also need one for the Galaxy campaign.
So for the next 12 weeks, we will highlight over 30 projects in the Kadena ecosystem.
And every week, we will introduce a new category.
So this week, it was wallets.
Next week, it will be DeFi, then DePin, and so forth and so on.
So every week, you will be able to mint a new NFT based on the category.
And you don't have to pay for fees, as I mentioned before.
We want to create a guest list experience.
But yeah, I think everyone wants to know how to win the KDA, right? That's a question we
get a lot. So each quest in the portal to get on a sub campaign will run for two weeks. So giving
you ample time to mint an NFT. And once that's completed, we will publish a new quest. And that
will be live for one week. And it is necessary that you have minted the NFT from the first quest
so you can participate in the KDA raffle.
Now to the to the KDA rewards, right?
So for every project we we show in each category,
we will allocate 250 KDA.
So in the first quest, we had five wallets meaning five times 250 kda and since this
is the very first quest that we want to distribute kda we're allocating an additional 5000 kda so we
will have 650 winners that can win 10 kda each so I think this will make a lot of people happy. And
that amount is also enough to play around in our ecosystem and try things out.
No, that's fantastic. I think that that method and the way you have this laid out really does, like you mentioned, introduce KDA and the Kadena ecosystem.
And, you know, Mike, I do like saying it as Kadena.
I think it rolls off the tongue a little fresher.
Sorry, I just wanted to mention that. a fantastic way to really spread the knowledge and experience of your ecosystem to as many
interested parties as possible.
And I think that that's a great way to find new power users that do go through this experience,
receive their KDA, mint their NFT, and, you know, just become a really strong
member of the community, like you yourself or Robin. So I do really resonate with that
outlook that you guys have there and the way you've laid this out. I myself will definitely be
participating as well. So yeah, you guys can convert me over to the Kadena side as well. So yeah, you guys can convert me over
to the Kadena side as well.
Very exciting.
Yeah, love it.
Yeah, and if you have questions,
and that's not for you only, Duncan, but like for everyone,
if you have questions, reach out to us on Telegram or Discord.
We're always happy to help.
Of course.
Everybody, make sure you guys, if you are in this space right now,
the Kadena account is also listening.
You guys can see it there.
I believe you can find the socials through Mike and Robin as well.
Make sure you guys go and give them a follow and whatnot as well just to make sure you guys can stay updated with all the relevant information.
And if you do go to galaxy.com slash quest slash Kadena,
that's K-A-D-E-N-A,
you guys will see the lovely campaign series there.
Enter Kadena.
So make sure you guys go and give that a peek as well.
And so after kind of hearing about this
and feeling the passion of Kadena,
I think from both of your sides,
my next question for you, Robin,
around the community perspective
would be beyond the campaign, right?
What are some of the other ways
that you would recommend a user get involved
with Kadena and its community after listening today
or checking out the recording later on yes well I think the easiest way to get
involved is obviously joining our socials meaning telegram and discord we
will always try to answer your questions or at least try to get an answer for you or direct you to a project
that you might be interested in.
So I think that's the easiest way.
Then also, if you're interested in certain projects, you can find a lot of them on our
website on cadena.io slash ecosystem and additionally if you want to really get involved with the community and
want to help shape the future of cadena you can join the cadena cabinet the cadena cabinet is
kind of like a governance board and we call it community advisory board forip and that's where the cabinet comes from where cadena token holders can come
together and guide the future of the cadena ecosystem by participating in on-chain polls
and meanwhile depending on on the lockup time you can get rewards of up to 10% in KDA.
Very exciting.
No, I also, I love the name, the Kadena cabinet.
It's definitely, that's a killer one.
Yeah, it's super important to have that advisory
and also be able to push people in the right direction. My last question
for you guys would be, do you have any final keywords or insights you'd like to share for
those listening? We can start with Mike. Yeah, no, for sure. I can certainly add a little bit
more here. I mean, first of all, you guys at Galaxy have been tremendous to work with.
I mean, first of all, you know, you guys at Galaxy have been tremendous to work with.
You know, so I just want to make sure I shout out you all in the team for getting this piece together.
We've been having this conversation for quite a while, and we are thrilled that we were able to get this partnership done and get it launched.
You know, it's a big lift to get this up and running. And
Robin and, you know, our creative team internally and others, I think really did a great job with
sort of building the whole entire story of what we're trying to do. So first of all, like all
the props in the world and thanks go to you guys. So you've been fantastic. You know, I think for everybody listening or anybody that is going to listen, you know, there's a ton of stuff going on right now.
And this is really just the start.
So, I mean, on top of the Galaxy launch, right, which is super exciting for our community.
And again, the numbers we've seen, we're absolutely blown away by, you know, Chain Web BVM is going to be a game changer.
you know, Chain Web BVM is going to be a game changer. You know, it's going to really
revolutionize scalability, decentralization, security, programmability. You know, people are
going to have the opportunity to, you know, just simply port Solidity-based apps over. And we've
got tons of them that are coming out. You know, there's a lot of huge announcements, other
partnerships, alpha drops. So I'd encourage anybody listening, right?
Like whether you're a business owner, whether you're, you know, a retail user, whether you're a developer, you know, participate in some way, right?
Do your own research, you know, learn about what we have going on.
Because this is really just the beginning of a ridiculously exciting road that, you know, we're embarking on.
And we invite everybody to come hop on this train with us and let's see where we can take it.
I completely agree. I 100% share that sentiment. And it has been, you know, a treat getting the
chance to chat with you both today. I can definitely feel that passion. And yeah, I just want to say, I appreciate the kind words as well. I think we do. All at our side, it is a lot to put something
like this together and even do what we do. So, you know, as a whole ecosystem unit from us,
the partners to, you know, the people that get involved and participate and grow alongside us, the partners, to the people that get involved and participate and grow alongside us.
It's a really fantastic experience. And I'm glad to get to share that with you all as well. And
with that, we will come to a close for today. I just want to say thank you guys for taking the
time to join us. Thank you for chatting with me. I hope we get to speak again sometime.
Yeah, we can just say goodbye for now and
we will see you next time. Thank you so very much. Look forward to seeing everybody on
the moon. Thank you. Thank you. Take care. Take care.
