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Gaming Apes Show 2,052,417 $APE Gaming and Apechain
Recorded: Jan. 26, 2026 Duration: 2:46:13Space Recording
Short Summary
The Gaming Ape Show episode 2,052,417 delves into the latest developments in the crypto space, highlighting key partnerships, project launches, and fundraising initiatives. Discussions also cover emerging trends in Web3 gaming, the introduction of new tokens, and opportunities for community engagement through grants and yield-generating activities.
Full Transcription
Thank you. what up everybody welcome in we're gonna let some people trickle through
you know the drill say what's up in the comments hit the retweet button, like, most importantly, bookmark that shiz. Let's have a fucking awesome day
and an awesome space. A lot to talk about. A lot of nothing to talk about. Nothing of a lot to talk
about. And everything in between. Those quick retweet bookmarks comments go the distance so let's keep that bumping again
Let's try to set a bookmark record here
Let's try and get a bookmark record. It's the gaming game show, baby
episode two million fifty two thousand four hundred and seventeen
Yeah, you guys are on top of the bookmarks this time. Let's go.
Woo! It's getting hot in here, taking off my hoodie.
Not sure if anyone remembers those, but they, uh, the blue Adidas.
Fuck it, I'm gonna go back and say Adidas again.
I have a funny story to tell about Adidas, Adidas.
But those blue ones from, like, the metaverse, manverse man when it's cold it is the fuzziest
outfit i've ever had absolutely fantastic and yeah i wear it all the time i won't be it's not
a florida outfit though but it's definitely a uh a winter wonderland outfit for sure if you know
that fit you know exactly what i'm talking about i might have to share it in the comments whoo welcome everyone see you my co-host up here in
the house diablito i'm gonna text double ape just to uh just to say what's up here while he's doing
it again bookmark retweet comment get a chance to win a beautiful fister
miss you on show
come through if free
yeah man, a lot of stuff cooking on Ape Chain
what's going on Diablito, my man
we've got Sioux's better half, Elethera down there in the house with Tommy we, my man. We've got Siu's better half, Ella Farah, down there in the house with Tommy.
We got my man, Agent.
Agent, we got to talk some ball.
I was almost right on the money yesterday.
Almost right on the money.
We got my man, LL Cub King in the house.
We got the man, the myth, the legend, Mr. Yellow.
Banana, banna, baboni, fif myth, the legend, Mr. Yellow, Banana Banna, Baboni, FeeFive, Fofoni, Tony.
We got Gigi Ma in the house, always coming through, repping strong with the community.
4, 5, 6, Happy Mutant Monday, great to see you.
We've got one of my favorite people in the world down there.
She's been on the show before. Olia down in the house.
Listen, there's not many people I like more than Olia.
Just what a legend.
A true queen.
We've got my man Spy down there.
Spy rocking the beautiful Fister.
What's going on, Spy?
Great to see you down there.
Same color, Fister.
Spy and Fertile are almost twinsies down there.
They've got the, uh, I forget what that trade is, the Oceanic?
I don't know if that's Oceanic, but almost twins, Fertile, day one OG, always coming
through the space.
Great to see you down there.
We've got Anizanza in the house.
Great to have you back as always.
Always great to see you in the other side
We've got going on what's going on chill guy nice to connect
Man ready for oh you guys are on top of your shit. I love you guys so much. Let's go
I see you in the comments if you've got fisters share them fisters
And yeah, and we've got we're just gonna we're just gonna kick it we're gonna have a good time there
were some drops that we got to talk about there's sports we got to talk about there was a new game
that kind of came out that I want to look over and discuss a little basketball related and for
the first time I might not be fully bullish on it sadly as much as I want to be bullish on it
as much as I really really do I don't, as much as I really, really do,
I don't, it's, uh, I'm struggling with a little bit right now. And we'll talk a little bit about
just really how we feel conceptually about some of these games. You know, if you're releasing
a Web3 game in 2025, there's any topics you want to talk about, drop them below. And again, as you know, come on up and chat, shoot the shit.
Yeah, I mean, I think we are a math major now.
We got 15 people in here.
We've got 11 retweets, 11 bookmarks.
Unbelievable.
It's great to see all of the homies coming through, doing their thing, always showing love.
Siwoo, what's up Siwoo?
Welcome back.
It's another Monday. i'm starting to realize
that mondays don't stop there's always there's always one it always comes at the same time and
then boom you snap your fingers and it's another gaming apeshow day how are you my friend how was
your weekend i'm i'm great um yeah weekend was good um bit of downtime with family and a bit of other
side and i don't know who emily is emily family family okay um yeah and uh yeah i got a feeling
that mondays they will keep coming dude it's like Smash Mouth said, you know,
the Mondays start coming and they don't stop coming.
Yeah, that sounds familiar.
Back to the rules and I hit the ground running.
Did it make sense not to live full fun?
So much to do, so much to see,
so what's wrong with taking the back streets?
You never know if you don't go.
Hey now, you're an all-star.
Get the Gaming Ape show on.
Go play. Hey now,
you're all rock stars. Get the show on.
We're not getting paid because all the markets
are down.
Only Ape Chain
can break the mold.
Yo, I just made that up, man.
Look at that. We have an intro song now.
Yeah, no, I kind of like that.
There's something there.
And we have the recording.
Yeah, I got to hit the studio.
I don't know.
I got to hit the studio.
There's something there.
I've always wanted to make a track,
make a song, and I think we could
work with that.
Shout out to chief the king in the house, bro
We got to get you up here. I want to hear what's going on with designer to shiro is one of my favorite collections on ape chain
Great to see you down there. You know, we love our designers. We even honored them in the fisters
We got my man JB in the house one of the kings of the other side of the Marscat voyage.
Again, feel free to come on up.
We'd love to talk with you.
We're going to do what we always do.
Again, we're going to talk gaming.
We're going to do what we do best, which is highlight others, hear what other people are cooking.
We're going to laugh.
We're going to have a good time.
We're going to give away a Fister.
Maybe we do some more, too.
We'll talk about the Fister Friday that I tried to do on the other side and massively failed but it was still fun so what what failed
listen you got to do a little more planning for a stand-up show and you got to have some material
and i did not have my notebook where i actually wrote some jokes i actually i still don't have
the notebook but i wrote some jokes for it and we were going to do a little, we were going to do a little standup bit and open mic bit.
But then I just like blanked, man, hosting an event on the other side is so much more intimidating than on Twitter space.
Yeah, I figured, yeah, because you're like really standing on stage and you.
You're standing, you're standing on stage.
This is so much easier here i'm assuming
people are just you know they're supporting they're coming through uh they'll put the space
on step away and hang out you know and maybe maybe fist me a little bit if i'm lucky down there just
till i say oh you know i want to show squiddy some love also by the way side note one of the things
that i i do and i hope you all do as well, when you're in a space, make sure you're fisting people in the DMs if you're mutually following each other, right?
You can send that DM fist in the space.
Again, this kind of goes back to how we end all the shows, right?
It's just show some love.
It's so easy to spread love to the peeps.
Gotta say what's up to my main man, Agent in the house.
What's going on agent? I hope
you enjoyed your football Sunday yesterday. How was it, man? Oh, it was, it was great. It was great.
Uh, yeah. Uh, interesting. Interesting. I mean, there, there were some, I think missed calls
during the NFC championship that, you know, could have gone, maybe should have been called early on,
but, but I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it.
Good football is always nice in the snow.
Another classic to be played like that was a good AFC battle.
Bro, you hit me with the smash mouth this morning.
I was not expecting that.
A little throwback for sure.
You never know what you're going to get, Agent.
You know you never know what you're going to get on the Gaming Apes show.
You know?
Definitely, definitely.
And I get that, what you're saying about other sides.
Sometimes it is, like, intimidating a bit.
Like, I've done, like, you know, my first, like, kind of attempt at a game night was, like, man, not smooth at all.
So it's kind of just getting into the flow of things, you know, and, you know, just feeling it out for sure.
But, you know, you can always count on us to throw some fists up in the other side whenever you have.
Are you thinking about doing something this Friday?
Probably not.
Maybe, probably not. I'm traveling. So I'm driving down to Miami,
back to Miami on, shit, I think I'm leaving tomorrow. I think I'm leaving tomorrow. So again,
if anyone is along I-95 on the East Coast, they want to get a coffee or something,
hit a brother up because I like to
take fun stops. I like to make a little trip of it. So thrilled to be back where I belong.
Listen, Philly born, raised, go birds, but I'm too pretty to be in the cold. I'm too pretty to
be in the cold. And I'm almost like missed the season. It's almost February already. And soon
it's going to be spring. But listen, I've never done anything. I've never done anything
conventionally. And I've got a very fun event happening. So we will still do the gaming ape
show. There will be a gaming ape show next week, but there won't be one in two weeks because it
is my, uh, it's one of my yearly step away from the phones week.
It's a little event down on Virginia Key Beach.
It's called Love Burn.
It's basically like a regional burn, regional Burning Man type thing
where I will be disconnected and exploring some awesome interactive arts
and listening to some great music and just
being in like a little blocked off one little playground here uh which should be a lot of fun
and then um yeah so by the time 10 a.m monday in two weeks i'll i'll probably still be up but
recovering and then there's just no way we're going to be able to get to do these shows that day.
But again, if you're on 95, you want to say what's up.
If I could buy you a coffee.
Again, if you're a Fister, I'm going to buy you a coffee.
You can get a Fister right now for a coffee as well.
Cheaper than a Starbucks.
Put up a little wape offer.
They're going for $4.
Incredible.
But yeah, I want to talk a little bit more football.
I've got to say what's up to some more people.
As you know, you come to the Gaming Ape Show, you get the warm welcome.
You get the hello.
We've got Adam Sky in the house.
Adam, awesome creator.
Fantastic Ape Chain community builder and community member.
I'm really grateful he's in the Pfister community.
We've got the legendary Alex Lee in the house doing his thing with Rug Labs, Rug Dolls. Always happy to hear you and what's going on down there. And yeah, man,
but it was good. I'm glad we had some good games yesterday. There wasn't a blowout. Pretty crazy
that there was not a point scored in the fourth quarter in any of the two games. And we're going
to talk a little football because, you know, football is a game. Football is a game. And it was championship
Sunday. There's only one more game left in the season. And that is the Super Bowl. Man, I go
back and forth on whether or not Peyton should have taken that field goal. I always like being
aggressive. But when you've got a backup quarterback and an elite defense, you take any
points that are available to you. Any points that are available to you any points that are available to you you you take but at the same
time if they would have made it they probably would have won the game so i get the risk reward
but uh hindsight is obviously 2020 but how i was pretty on the ball with my analysis of these games
was i not oh yeah i mean i mean I don't think anyone predicted that snowstorm.
I think maybe that could have turned out a little bit different
had it not been like that. But very
ballsy. Patriots just relying,
being, as you mentioned, fourth quarter,
just saying, defense got this.
Defense got this. And then they did.
Even against the wind,
that was insane. Instead of, man, he had one
mistake. But I really thought
that he was going to continue to tear it up.
But not even tear it up, just like keep them in it.
Keep them in it for the most part he did.
For the most part he did.
Yeah, he looked pretty solid for most of the game.
I was surprised by how well he played.
Especially the opening drive very early on in the first quarter.
Oh, yeah.
And, you know, it's a, oh, my God, someone just grabbed the fister.
When someone grabs one during the space, it just gets me going.
It gets me going.
If you just grab one, present yourself.
Show it below.
You're a legend.
And thank you.
Poncho Villa in the house.
What's going on, Poncho? LFG Games
I know your bot is in here, you follow
Creators and whatnot, but
We still appreciate seeing you down there
We got the legendary Chesapeake in the house
What's up Chesapeake?
Welcome to the stage, came early this time
Yeah bro, I'm always awake bro
Since 4am right here
Pacific Standard Time But you know i get
some time free just right after seven eight sometimes a little past eight so that's why i
come sometimes in the middle by the end but yeah man today i got the notification that you were
live and i was like damn damn, time to step in.
Right now I'm inside the car, you know, finishing some stuff.
And bro, good morning, bro.
GM, GM, how you guys been doing?
What's cooking?
Another week on Ape Chain.
Another day to be alive.
We survived the snowstorm here on the east coast
which was lovely it was legit it was legit for sure that's bro i mean yeah it would say
it was a crazy week you're right you know the storm and all of that i know i heard some people had uh it's not literally up to their asses is that true
say that again yeah we got like 12 inches we got like 12 inches it was crazy yeah yeah yeah
that's literally what i heard yeah man everyone was, everyone was just taking it and there was nowhere to go. There was nowhere to go.
Oh my gosh, I'm going to, I'm going to keep going again.
More, got to say what's up to some more homies.
Rye Glizzy in the house, a day one Gaming Ape Show fan.
Rye, I owe you a DM, man.
We got to properly catch up.
Karimo, day one, back from the Champions Days.
Hope you are well. My man, well my man marathon crypto my hoops buddy
we'll be talking hoops we do fridays 10 a.m for myself grateful ape marathon we do the
ape ball club where we just talk hoop we talk basketball we got my man kieran in the house
We got my man Kieran in the house. Great to see you again, Kieran. Man,
things are happening. First things first, you've got to lead off with these feels
on the other side. I'm curious if anyone made these purchases, bought some feels,
has any thoughts about them. I'm pumped to see this.
I'm excited to see that there's more of these like launches happening. I haven't bought
one yet. I need to go on Amazon, check it out. I think it's a really cool concept. Um,
20 bucks is a lot. 20 bucks is a lot. So I'm going to get one to do it for the culture,
but there was just, I don't know. That gave me a little bit of a pause. I'm curious what you all
think about that and how you're seeing them react in the other side. Again, I'm always
going to be there to support Rita and some of these awesome collections that have come through
and checked it out there. But, you know, the emojis, it's just, I don't know if it totally
resonates with me. So I've got some mixed feelings there uh i think again i'm here to support
absolutely everything and anything on ape chain and in the other side but i want to hear your
thoughts you know if you if you bought some of these things how many you bought if you're willing
to share that if anyone wants to uh if anyone wants to go first and tell me your thoughts about
the process of buying these fields let's's go Chesapeake first.
Yeah, bro. Um, man, like always, you know, I do believe, Oh, by the way, um, I want to say,
right. This is my opinion, right. Uh, it has nothing to do, you know, with the team or with other, uh, with other people. This is zero sentiment and i apply the same way as trading you know zero feelings
so oh my thoughts on dates and i believe i have speak about this uh openly in a different space
but i think that feels um what's a little bit earlier right and but uh I also understand that.
I mean, the drop of fields was a little bit earlier and because of the current players live on the other side.
But I understand that they want to use it as a tool to onboard the normies.
Right. A.K.A. the normies. Right. Quote, unquote quote unquote you know into the other side uh i mean uh i can take it as a test uh from the team uh to bring other people into the other side you know showing
up the showing up the emojis but my question is where's the marketing uh outside web3 to bring these people right
i i agree i mean i i fully agree i think it's listen i think it's cool i think it's a great
concept and i understand you know generating revenue whatnot but who who's going on to other
side to buy and find these codes out just to like okay okay, let me use this emoji for an IP that I'm
probably not too familiar with. Um, because let's be out, let's, we just have to be real with
ourselves, right? Like the IP is not global IP. No, there's not that many, you know, if you're
in tune with the space, you know, these IPs, but listen, I think the ip that they use right geez heavy metal chimpers and
then the uh the nexus a little nexus starter pack i listen if you're a collector and you're in the
space okay it's another chance to to spend and build and grow but yeah i mean there's i don't
think there's a marketplace for these unless they're on it but as they were saying right i mean the the the voice in the
street was that this is to onboard the aka normies i don't know if i heard wrong once again i can be
mistaken right and uh but where where is the marketing where was the marketing outside web3 you know like literally the marketing inside web3 was very vague
i probably i'm probably speaking too early but the drop just happened you know i don't see the
i don't see the marketing on any other social media popping up the fields? I don't see on Instagram, on TikTok, on YouTube, on any other reels. I don't see it on a pizza box, you know? Like, we're talking about, we're trying to compete with, bro, with people that invest hundreds of millions of dollars in marketing bro in well on web too
yeah it's you know it's it's definitely interesting and i was hoping for a little
bit more on the marketing side like hey fucking we're amazon we're we're doing this thing you
know we're putting our weight behind this right um so i listen i've got faith that there will be
some some more i'm looking on the ape chain right
now i'm looking at a magic eden and i see the fields are being sold individually which is cool
so again you are able to to work secondary markets on these things and trade and grab ones
that you that you want and i will probably get some on the secondary right help someone recoup some of that there and listen if they if they're
going for 48 right 48 is at seven bucks that's eight bucks right now um so eight 16 how many
did you get in the pack by the way three and ten okay so i mean hypothetically if you're going up
and you're you're scooping you sell all them on the secondary there could be positive ev i get that but yeah i mean we'll
we'll see we shall see it's uh it's interesting i'm probably gonna end up getting one just to
rip a pack and support and say that i did it but i i don't know what this is achieving besides a proof of concept um what that concept is
we can i'm not sure we can take it we can take it as a test right like a test on whatever they
were planning i absolutely love you know the gift the the they drop and it's not and it's not just
Those four projects that can do it They also open the doors to all of us that have the ODK access to create our own gifts
That is a good one to there too, but are they all gonna be able to be done through Amazon?
You can do it through Amazon as well
You have to reach out
Spicy Tina if i'm not wrong
and you will be able to do it but i mean me as a founder you know seeing the four one of the four
biggest projects doing this with amazon and and generating uh xyz numbers i don't know i i wouldn't i wouldn't take the chance right now
because if i'm barely i'm barely uh i just barely migrate my project into into the odk you know and
i'm still working on i'm still working with uh with my project i think it's too early for for me
i'm definitely too early to do something
like that. We're going to get some more takes here in a second. We're going to go to agent,
but again, we had a bunch more people come through. And as per tradition, I have to give
everybody a warm welcome. I don't have to, I get to give everybody a warm welcome. What's going on
hype. Happy mutant Monday. Great to see you, man. Hype does some awesome events in the other side.
Love is cocktail hour in the clubhouse
i think it's a great thing we've got my main man crypto bullies in the house one of my favorite
builders in the space doing some great shit with the pixel pals just an ode just a classic dude man
good peeps we got kurt co bang bang in the house boston fan extraordinaire congratulations
on the patriots. I'm assuming
you're a Patriots fan because I know you like your Celtics. J-Mo, an incredible collector,
awesome community member. Again, he does this great little poker events there too. We're
going to try and get something going on with the Fisters. We got Joe Ryan, music in the
house. Welcome Joe. Lil Ego, welcome back to the show dj ck
absolute zero good to see you again we've got my main man st roxas rocking the super clean fister
i love that one man that one's so dope uh faku emotional oh my man zero in the house what's
going on zero man great to see you hope all is well go birds back to the other side
here again if you've got some thoughts drop them below and if you haven't already bookmark the space
retweet drop a like if you want a chance to win a free fister i will pin up the one that's being
given away uh while i do that i want to swing it on over to agent got some thoughts on feels
While I do that, I want to swing it on over to Agent.
Got some thoughts, some feels.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just wanted to, like, I don't know if this was really meant to be their mainstream push.
I mean, I think this is kind of testing out what's, how the community here is going to respond.
And obviously the different communities that were highlighted since three of the four are not on ApeChain.
three of the four are not on ApeChain and what kind of support we'll see on that. I think it is
And, you know, what kind of support we'll see on that.
also testing to see and make sure everything, the user response, how everything kind of flows with
redeeming, claiming. You could say it's maybe a little premature. I don't think it's like,
I mean, just with the current rollout that they're doing, which is kind of like a soft rollout that they're doing which is kind of like a soft rollout you know that we've seen starting with the swamp now nexus um i think there's definitely um you know different takes
on the price as well because of the current price of ape i think we focus too much on the price of
ape and that kind of like you know makes it seem like oh it's pricey uh because if you look at like
emotes and other games they're around like roughly three to five dollars um you know if you look at like emotes and other games, they're around like roughly three to $5.
Um, you know, if you're taking that and, and I like to also look at what happened interestingly enough with, uh, with ton and their stickers on that side.
Like, you know, you have some, what are they called?
I think it's the pepes that are going like for thousands, like crazy amount.
Like if they're NFTs back in 2021.
So like just seeing that kind of further
roll out will be super interesting and to remember these are like the ogs uh they're not really
trying to sell them out because my understanding is that they're kind of open-ended mint um so you
know you could take your time getting these there weren't any white list anything like that just uh
i'm sure it's like you know with a big company like like amazon they really want to see
like the data that they're going to get back from this launch and how to like maybe push different
things forward um i wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing maybe you know other collaborations
starting to open up because of this you're starting to see now you know you mentioned hype and what
other games team is doing with highlighting these different collections that are coming into the other side.
Like now you're having projects that are only like, you know, supporting us because of because of Project Raid and everything that rolled out there.
But now because you have community members that are finding ways to bring those collaborations here.
So, you know, Geckos, OK Bears, like I saw them in spaces talking about other side, building that up.
So I really think it's like more prepping for this, for the real like public launch and the
public push that we will see, you know, and, and if we are going to like start seeing collabs where
it might be Amazon brings, you know, Hello Kitty to other side, I mean, this just me, you know,
talking off the top of my head, you know, just any brand like that. Then you definitely want to get all this stuff worked out on like, you know, whether people like to use code, whether they like just the only cash option.
If maybe some other brands will be incorporated to get like some crypto rails behind the scenes.
And that, of course, gets complicated with with companies like like Amazon.
like Amazon. I'm sure that also probably had a little, you know, play in the pricing of these,
as you want to make sure it's, you know, it's something that will be attractive for other
brands to get more involved with. I do think like, you know, some people could see it like,
you know, high price or maybe a little early, but we have to get this stuff worked out. I think with
our core brands that we do have, like Chimpers, Heavy Metal.
You know, they're both building on here fully.
You also have, obviously, the Gs that have been doing everything that they've been doing.
And, you know, we have everything else involved with that.
So I think, like, yes, I was also kind of shocked by the price.
Yes, I was also kind of shocked by the price, but looking at the 10 emotes that you get,
it roughly comes out to like emotes in some other games, even some other mobile games
that you don't, you know, you don't get to hold on to any of these assets.
You don't get to play further.
Once a company goes down, it's just kind of done, you know, it sticks there.
So that's just like me playing a little devil's advocate or the other side of the ball, I guess.
But that's the way I view it.
Yeah, that was definitely one of the initial thoughts.
And thank you, of course, for sharing that.
It's definitely a test, right?
Doing something at this scale and doing something different.
There's always going to be some trial runs, which is good.
You know, that means that's good stuff.
And it's giving value to people that are
in the space right now who want to collect and want to find more ways to express themselves
inside of the other side i love again speaking of like the raid and also shout out the simple
farmer we're going to get to you in a second we're going to go cub within simple farmer but i
and we're going to get alex in here as. We've got like, again, the number one thing,
which makes the most sense is the other side going to every single corner of web three,
any chain, any NFTs, any community, making sure that the other side is the number one hub for
people to, you know, use their characters and use their NFTs and their IP that they have,
um, to just, to just hang out, right. That, that new social space and people are gathering in
these things and hanging out. And it really is an awesome experience. And that's just because
it's just the world to explore and people are creating their own games and doing their own
little activities here. Once people are able to fully like build out legitimate
experiences on the other side and being able to see like the nfts that they use nfts are inherently
you know there's a good overlap of gamers nft collectors and people who just want to do some
want to do some fun in there so uh we're gonna go to cub and then we're gonna do some more shout
outs to them we're gonna go simple farmer what's up then we're going to do some more shout-outs to them. We're going to go Simple Farmer.
What's up, Cub?
Curious to hear your thoughts on this.
Yo, yo, yo.
GM, GM.
What's good?
Glad to be here today.
Thanks for grateful for rugging us last week.
So we didn't get our Gaming Ape show in, so I was really craving it.
Let's go.
We got the Gaming Ape show last week.
We didn't have the NBA show.
I knew he'd rug me somehow. It was the basketball talkpe show last week. We didn't have the NBA show. I knew he grugged me somehow.
It was the basketball talk.
There's always something to blame Grape for.
Exactly.
I think I will reserve my take, I suppose, on the feels.
Because I think it's so early that we don't really know what the bigger concept is
what the main strategy is how the marketing is going to look like all this kind of stuff we're
mentioning I don't think that the bigger strategy is just to give us vibes or feels into the
existing people that are already here so it seems like there is some probably strategy that I don't really know what it is and I guess we just kind of have to trust that the people that are already here so it seems like there is some probably strategy that i that i
don't really know what it what it is and i guess we just kind of have to trust that the people that
are building uh do i'm curious though and something an agent you said earlier it made me think about
this do you guys remember when we had like the like the finger middle finger emoji as a, um, not a feels,
but like an emote.
And wasn't on his face on his faces.
it was like right when the other side,
when we had access to it,
the first few weeks,
they started rolling out these like extra little,
emotes.
One of them being a middle finger that you had to get like the blunt.
If it was passed to you or given to you.
And I thought those were supposed to be traded.
I thought those were supposed to kind of create a digital trail.
I'm not really sure what happened to that.
Maybe some performer would know more about that.
Maybe Haifa does.
I don't know.
But I thought that was the cool utility.
I thought that was the thing that like had everybody that was in there the day before.
And then the next day they're in there and they see that.
They're like, oh, where'd you get that?
I want one of those.
And that created, you know, internal dialogue between our communities, between the people.
Like, how do we get it?
What do I got to do to earn it?
How much do I have to do to buy it?
That was the conversation that was kind of being had at that time.
We obviously went to Nexus and there's a few conversation that was kind of being had at that time. We obviously went to
Nexus and there's a few other things that have been being built. So no, no clue where that kind
of got left, lost in the sauce, coming back, what its plan is. But those were cool. I really liked
that. I personally don't understand the value of, I mean, I understand the value of partnering with
Amazon and coming up with something related to our space.
Like, that's huge.
And I think that that's all going to be rolled out of why and how and everything will have reveal, be revealed in time, I guess.
But with these, I don't necessarily see the innate value yet unless we are, like you kind of said, testing.
And it's just a few packs. I don't necessarily see the innate value yet unless we are, like you kind of said, testing.
And it's just a few packs.
Let's let the first OGs in first to kind of have their branding.
And then maybe we won't do those.
So those will turn out to be collector's editions.
I don't really know.
It's a lot of speculation.
Agent, in one of your spaces the other day, we got some good information on kind of from James. And they did speak about the marketing.
And they basically said said we're not
marketing yet you know that they're we're not spending that marketing faucet yet on for a good
reason we're not ready obviously we're not ready for it too it's like who would we market to we
don't even know that yet so there's so much that's yet to be determined that we don't want to get
caught up in like oh why are they doing this why are they doing that but you know that's yet to be determined that we don't want to get caught up in like,
oh, why are they doing this? Why are they doing that? But, you know, it's okay to talk about it.
It's okay to be like, I don't see the value in this last drop or, you know, I really wanted a
box miss, but the box miss situation with Netflix, you know, it wasn't ironed out perfectly where
I made a mistake and didn't know how to work it first.
So it's all being tested, whether it's on the chain, the user, the feedback.
It's a big loop of information that we're getting and we didn't have before.
And I think that kind of creativity one is what we need.
But the actual innovation is what's going to keep people, like you just every other corner of the space that come want to come in hopefully we use some discernment and don't bring in
ruggers and people with bad you know track records just because they have a big ip or a big community
or shit like that there's already been one person that i'll reserve my take on right now that i
think we should have maybe filtered but oh i don't think
too early for that but dm me that one here your boy's here for some tea let me get some of that
i don't really know if it was more of just like a creator creating and bringing that in
look more less so than it was like signed off let's you know what i mean so that's why i'm
kind of reserving my
i get you and you know we don't we don't we don't talk much shit on the gaming ape show
um but you know i do i do but this person definitely deserves all the fun in my person
in my personal opinion for being on this chain for the last four years but i get again community
different groups and you're trying to bring those people here. So I can't wait until that marketing hose is turned on and we start seeing the strategy, the thoughts behind the little things that we've been as users getting for a while now kind of unveiled.
And we get to see the bigger picture and things that don't make sense to everybody right now, which, again, we're not supposed to have every single 30,000 square foot view of this right now, which again, it's not supposed to, we're not supposed to have every single, you know, 30,000 square foot view of this right now.
Some things are fluid.
Some things are for the team.
So there has to be a little bit of trust.
And I guess that's what I was going to say is like, just because you don't see some of
the value in something yet doesn't mean that it's not there.
It can't evolve.
Something can't change.
And so I guess that's where I'm at right now.
I don't necessarily understand what's going to I guess that's where I'm at right now.
I don't necessarily understand what's going to happen with fuels, but I'm excited to see that it's not something small, that it's something that's inclusive. That's going to bring us together.
That's going to help the chain.
You know, that's going to have all these other effects that may not be able to be seen right now.
But you got to have faith in the builders on your chain
that that's what's happening, right?
So that's kind of where I'm at on it.
We'll definitely circle back to me
for some takes on sports.
Dude, eloquently said,
and I think you hit the nail on the head
on a lot of these things.
And even just like, hey,
even just getting that feedback,
oh, I don't know if this is right for me right now.
Like, I don't know if I want to spend 20 bucks on this right now is great feedback for the builders and for the people to hear.
Because you don't want just like smoke blowing up your ass the whole time, right?
We're all dedicated to this chain.
We're all invested in the other side and we're all as a community and what's going on here where we want to be we got to be as real as possible
right and all that feedback either positive feedback or quote-unquote negative feedback
is all good because for most people it's coming from a good-natured spot right we want to be able
to get this right we want to create this world that we all want to have a fun time in building
growing and connect with people in. And that's incredibly important.
We're going to get to somewhere.
I got a lot of new shout outs to come get to again.
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Yes surfer James some new faces. We got foxy fan marcel and welcome everyone here through
the gaming apes show i want to send it up to my man simple farmer can't wait to have a chat with
you this week we've got some things to catch up on want to see how you are doing and your thoughts
after this uh first weekend of feels out and about want to hear some of your takes and some of the
things that you've learned and maybe anything that you can share that the team might have learned from this experiment.
Yeah, for sure. I have about 10 years of experience with Amazon.
This is my main income source since I was a teenager.
recommendation was that essentially fields aren't a limited drop because I don't think it's clever
to drop items on Amazon the way you would drop a mint on OpenSea. I thought it would be better
for essentially the fields to be open constantly and kind of create better exposure for the other
side, especially with Amazon users. And so I was really glad that they went that direction. I think
that's a much better onboarding funnel, obviously.
Because once an item is sold out,
you actually can't find it on Amazon.
So that's problematic.
And it's good if this item actually can't be sold out.
I actually just checked,
and for Amazon's hot new releases in the Mac games and accessories category,
the other side starter pack for fields is actually ranked number one.
I just made a tweet about that and pinned it up top.
So that was cool to see.
I think, of course, with the other side, the main thing is getting the Vibe Coding tool in there so people can start building.
We see how hot the Vibe Coding meta is, and I think they're waiting to deploy that before they really hit the gas on onboarding.
where they really hit the gas on onboarding.
Besides that, working on a lot of stuff,
a lot of stuff happening on with Ape Chain,
a lot of stuff happening with the other side.
With Clutch, we dropped the teaser of Super Squares.
It's a new product coming through,
which I think you'll like a lot, Squiddy.
It's on-chain squares,
if you're familiar with the Super Bowl Squares game,
and that's launching next Wednesday as well.
How convenient. There's a little Super Bowl coming up in two weeks that's launching next Wednesday as well. How convenient.
There's a little Super Bowl coming up in two weeks.
Oh, what impeccable timing.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
And so you'll be able to create your own Squares pool
so you can token gate them or you can make them public.
You get 1% of all the money that goes into your Squares pools.
And yeah, you'll be able to do that for NFL and NBA events.
And then when the World Cup starts, we'll have the World Cup Squares as well. And it won you'll be able to do that for NFL and NBA events. And then when the
World Cup starts, we'll have the World Cup squares as well. And it won't just be for a score, you
know, you'll be able to set up a square for total shots on goal for corner kicks, yellow cards,
etc. And also on the squares game board, you can actually place a bid on other people's squares
and try to buy them off them in real time during the game.
And so there's going to be a lot of interesting features there.
I think that's a really fun DeFi NFT product.
So looking forward to launching that next week.
Oh, yeah.
I always like the words going on with Clutch, man, because, you know, for people who don't know,
Simple and I would go back.
Simple was your journey with Ape Chain and Ape Coin has been fantastic.
I've absolutely loved that.
I know the Gaming Ape Shells on the first basis kind of came on up here and did the thing.
I'm holding, I think I got like
10 Clutch Puppies right now. I'm a huge fan
of Simple Farmer and what he's been able to do
and help out with the chain using his
his DeFi Mind there too.
And yeah man
tell me more what's what's popping with clutch
but i want to wrap up i want to wrap up the feels thing too i don't know if anyone else has anything
they want to say about feels but i do want to get to clutch and i can of course what we do in the
gaming ape show we hide we're a space for others right we highlight what awesome builders are doing
on a chain people are doing about a chain we are a we not me space and that, right? We highlight what awesome builders are doing on aid chain. People are doing about aid chain.
We are a we, not me space.
And that's what it's all about.
Again, it's highlighting other people doing their thing.
Let's see Grateful down there, what's going on.
JMO, you got something on the feels?
And then, shit, I, yeah.
We got Grateful.
And then we're going to go Alex because I think I said we're going Alex next like three times.
Alex is the homie for sure. Everybody for sure. Good morning.
Just real quick, man, the Phil's experience for me was pretty cool.
I will say I wasn't prepared simply because I've been over here on the NFT side of things on the blockchain.
So I was more so loaded up over there so when it
came it's like hmm i got a little liquid i feel like throwing away on it so let me see which
particular um uh art i want to go with and at first i hesitated i was looking at the g's
and then i was like the chimpers and i was like but i need to get a first the first edition so
i'm like hmm it's kind of tricky here.
You know what I'm saying?
And then two seconds later, it said the Gs was sold out.
I'm like, how in the absolute fuck did that happen, right?
So I'm sitting there looking at it.
I'm like, hmm, all right.
Well, before anything else sells out, let me just go ahead and grab the Chimpers, right?
Grab the Chimpers, come back 10 seconds later, refresh, and the Gs wasn't sold out.
So I'm like, I don't know what the fuck happened right there, but maybe they had decided that, you know what, we don't want to sell out.
We want to give it a little bit more.
I don't know what happened, but I was definitely trying to get that and couldn't at the time.
So that was my only experience.
It was cool.
It wasn't nothing negative.
It was just me kind of you know waiting
to pull the trigger and i got caught up which some of us always do you know i'm saying waiting a
little too late and then you come back 10 seconds later and it's gone so uh as you know what you
were saying yeah i do know what you're saying for sure so for sure so that was my experience it was
cool i enjoyed it um i like seeing the fields in you know the metaverse over there you know i'm
saying being able to run around and have a little bit more um options to choose between i do agree
with you know some things coming out a little a little premature for some people um just just
like i said for me i'm i'm just getting my feet wet over there and uh other side and enjoying all
that so to see uh the feels coming out again i expect all this stuff
to come because the space we in everything's come pretty quick but um other than they just coming
out of what seemed like nowhere because you know we have some days where we're focused on you know
uh bringing this this project in this other project in and stuff like that it's it's like
yeah man we we're getting there but it's a lot to keep up with you know i'm saying for me personally
because i have irl real stuff going on and then I got my own stuff going on, and then I'm just getting over here.
So it's been a great experience.
But yeah, I just feel like it was a little early, not in a negative way, but just for someone on the opposite side that's trying to keep up with collecting and stuff like that.
Like I said, I only was able to get one of those.
I wanted to be a part of other people's mint
and stuff like that for other stuff.
So it's cool.
I'm in there.
Plan on getting in the rest of them.
But yeah, that's my notes on that.
Appreciate you, J-Mo.
Always great to hear you and getting involved
with these Ape Chain shenanigans that we've got going on.
I'm going to swing it on over to Alex Lee.
What's going on, Alex?
You got some thoughts on feels? Or you can talk about anything you want because that's what we do here
good afternoon everyone hi squiddy hi everyone hi alex hey man how's it going i'm going all right
how you doing yeah no not bad not bad i'm just uh listening to the uh the feels conversation um
i say just a quick question like do you need one
of the nfts to use the feels emojis when you own one of the nfts no you don't oh that's pretty cool
uh no i'm just wondering because like i say if it is limited to the nft you would be quite uh
so that would be that would be an issue that would. You'd be quite restricted then, wouldn't you?
But I think, I was going to say,
I didn't see much marketing on our end.
I'm from Europe and I didn't see anything,
but I know that the Fields wasn't available for Europe.
So I didn't really see much, like Chesapeake was saying.
Like I said, they didn't see much,
but maybe they didn't need the marketing at the minute because they were, like everyone was saying,
they were gauging sort of how it is and then but the good thing i think what's happening
with the fields is other chains and other projects are seeing what's going on so it might attract
more projects over to other side so that is a good net negative net positive on that side because
like say you've seen chimpers coming over from ethereum over to chain and doing it i think that's really cool to see that so hopefully we'll start seeing like
projects like sappy seals and i think we're seeing the penguins coming over you know and i can imagine
ponzi's watching what's going on from the plague you know so it'd be cool just to get everyone
together on the other side so i think like i say even though it's you know everyone's saying it's
early it's actually quite good because people are watching what's going on and people go oh look they're making you know
people are not necessarily making money which they are but you know they might be like oh there's a
revenue stream available there let's go over not to extract but to hopefully be part and contribute
to Ape Chain and grow it so that's kind of what I was saying on the feel side, really.
Personally, I've been pretty much this morning.
We've just had our new game build dropped. We've actually converted our game to single-player, our Rugdolls World game.
I really think gaming is important.
I was actually sort of – someone was asking me the question, actually, the other day, like,
why are you building a game for Rugdolls, your project?
And like some oh what i'm saying is uh i think i'm sorry i still got a little bit of
feedback from me mike like i've been listening to quite a lot of gary v and what he's been saying
in there i think he graces loki's space quite a lot and he's saying with a project you need to
really sort of focus on a story and a narrative
and like a sort of push it to get people to fall in love with your project so we've kind of been
doubling down on our project rug dolls with that and with that comes with gaming and i think gaming
sort of like holds a special place in people's hearts so when they start playing the game they
sort of get emotionally attached and fall in love with the characters so anyway besides point
we've had i've
had a new build drop today we're aiming it to get into web 2 with our game as well and our assets
because it's the gaming ape show our assets in the game are on a chain that you actually use um
in the game so really excited to push that forward to web 2 what we've had the update today is we've
had uh we've had basically because we're going to web 2 and we want had the update today is we've had uh we've had basically because we're
going to web 2 and we want to get it on the mobile app store the play store we want um the first
thing people look at reviews we want some really good reviews when we first drop it so we've sort
of tailored it a little bit more to single player because when we originally built it we tailored it
to multiplayer so people can sort of invite their web 3 friends and play with their assets and stuff
but we found that um like i say i think i think web 2 having a sort of hybrid game is the way to
go so hopefully again going back hopefully the other side will sort of kind of like it's really
good how they've done hybrid and i hope they sort of look into mobile as well because that's one of
the barriers that we found building a game we found that a barrier
was our community were all asking us like it's only on pc it's only on pc you know can we play
it on mobile and i kept having to say no we haven't got it on mobile it's pc only and a lot of
that put a lot of our community off and i think i think personally some of them along the lines
from 2022 they got a bit bored because we were saying the game's only going to be on pc so we pivoted in the last year and we've actually converted it to mobile use which is why
we're tailing it for web 2 players we can play together so that's hopefully another side with
the bubbles at least hopefully they sort of get an app or something out i love it that'll be fun
to be able to play like some little games in bubbles in the other side.
Yeah, I think you can get mobile.
That would be awesome, you know,
because nine times out of ten, people love playing mobile.
Mobile game sector is absolutely massive, you know,
and if you can get even just an extension,
I think it would be absolutely fantastic.
Just, like, Dookie Dash or things like that,
you know, like little mini games that you sort of plug in, and then if you go onto onto the pc later it'll show you your scores or or whatever i think that'd be cool another thing i want to bring up as well which is completely out of the blue i'm really
interested in seeing uh let me just have a quick look on my computer i think i've got him up
is it directive creative creative directive creation yeah tomato tomato tomato I really want to see
I'm really excited to see what he's
Been building because I've been watching him on the timeline
Where you can change images
Into
Other side avatars
I don't know if anyone on the speaker panel
I've been testing it and it is a
Phenomenal tool
It is a phenomenal tool
I actually released my
I have them running around as
my first one that i created in the other side right now and uh you can actually go claim that
badge on my page and get a free avatar here coming very soon oh tell us more machiavelli and also uh
dude alex i appreciate sharing always good to hear what is what is cooking there um welcome
machiavelli good to see my brother hope there. Welcome, Machiavelli.
Good to see you, my brother.
Hope you had a good weekend.
Tell us more about these aftertops. I'm having the best days of my life, Squiddy.
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It reminds me of the Sammywell Jackson. It's my beer. Yo, uh, yo shout out Haifa down there. Um, Haifa
Um, I did my I did use directive creatives tool. Um, and I did get my first one in there
You see he's freaking huge brother. He's freaking huge. Then Haifa came through and actually, like, corrected all of the mistakes that the rig did and all that.
Like, made him the right size.
And then, like, reformatted it for me and hooked it up.
So, the tool does work.
It's very much in build mode.
But if you see me running around as this cute little thing, it's really because of Haifa Labs.
I'm just going to say that as well um so shout out to hypha because he really did show up
and show out for your boy but the but the tool directive creative is working on is amazing
um he's utilized all the tools of ai and kind of put them together from being able to throw in an
image and have it generate into an actual avatar um then it T poses it and puts the skeleton in there.
And then you get a VRM, so you can go to Nifty Island, or you get a GLB.
And then it also gives you the MML link.
And now what he added yesterday and stuff because of, like,
I was having trouble hosting things until Haifa taught me, like,
the proper way and showed me what to do.
But, you know, now you can, like, you're going to be able to, like,
also host it on IPS ipsfs as well
and stuff and essentially like you know it's not a perfect tool or whatever and it does cost money
like you know what i mean so like on average it's going to cost you two dollars per generation
six dollars to host it um and then you'll get a free retry and stuff like that but like to get
booger the way that i wanted him that's that's the the mike board kids booger booger the way i wanted him it cost me roughly about um nine credits
and it still wasn't it was still wasn't done like so 18 you know what i'm saying if you look at it
that way i know what you're saying you know what i mean i know hey mac is he uh the guy that's
doing that is he like affiliated with any projects or is he just doing it
No, no, he's
The director, creative
Directive creator is a
He's been learning MMLs and 3D
And all that stuff for like three years
He's like 900 and something days into the journey
But, you know, he's just
Building this tool because
He believes in an operable open metaverse
And stuff like that, so where anybody Can believes in an operable open metaverse and stuff like that.
So where anybody can come in, create their own avatar that they want and put it in and then go be running around as their thing, you know?
And guys, and so like right now, the only way to really get this done is like you go and you're going to attach it to the OP avatar because we're still in it.
We're still in the beginning phases of this.
So like, you know, every single avatar that somebody makes is not going to get indexed and put in
there and stuff like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, so,
but you will be able to strap it to your OP avatar and run around the other
side and do your thing. So essentially,
if you see my little booger in there, it's because it was done by Haifa.
If you see the big booger in there,
it's because it was done with directive creative tool,
but it's just the beginning stages
of it you know i'm saying like i was like one of the like me and honeybee been testing it
and and making avatars i think hype's in there too now um so you know we're just working out
the bugs and kinks and stuff like that so it'll come around you know what i mean but uh i'm gonna
be real nothing beats uh the real modelers the real riggers, the individuals doing it because
if I didn't have high foot last night,
I wouldn't be running around
in this cute little thing the right way.
You know what I mean?
I appreciate sharing. Machiavelli,
Simple Farmer, the floor is yours.
Hey, yeah.
I wanted to ask Machiavelli because I was looking
at director creative
was making these and I was looking at, Director Creative was making these,
and I'm like, I was thinking to myself,
I would love if we essentially have kind of like a pump fun
instead of for meme coins for other side avatars
that people could launch, they could sell.
That's exactly what it is.
So I DM'd him about that, and he put it together.
So I was super, super impressed to see a builder coming through and doing that.
And my question was about the dynamics.
You're telling me that you DM'd him and that's why he did the tool?
I don't know.
Maybe he was planning it before.
I'm not getting credit for that.
You've been planning this for a while, bro.
Come on, bro.
You've been planning this for a while, bro.
I can show you the DMs.
I got receipts.
I got receipts.
So my question is, is the avatar corresponding to an actual – to a specific NFT or is it all under one collection?
So the avatars are their own GLB and MML links, okay?
And then essentially you have to create the contract to attach them to. Or if you go to OP, you can upload the GLB file and the MML and stuff like that,
that points to,
or the MML link that points to the GLB file,
because it still has to be hosted somewhere.
And now on his platform,
you'll be able to host it,
you know,
and then it'll give you that MML file.
You'll go put that inside of,
you know,
you'll go to OP.ECHYC and say,
I want to create an avatar.
Okay.
And then you'll go create it.
And then you'll put that link in the metadata.
And essentially for any NFT that you create, as long as that has that link that points to the GLB that's being hosted,
that avatar will show up as long as the NFT is in the wallet or is in your OP catalog.
Yeah, it's awesome.
So it's awesome to see builders collaborating to work together.
So we're seeing multiple
applications and platforms built together
to create one event.
So this is something I love to see, especially
on ApeChain. And yeah, I'll be
really excited to definitely when it goes
live and he has it in the full
alpha launch to test it.
I'm looking forward to seeing what kind
of avatars people build there. I'm hoping we can
create some really great
moments because it really went like the penguin
moment, right? Imagine if we could have
caught that moment in some way as an avatar
and then display images
from other side on X
to improve our marketing, right? We can kind of semi
grift off of these larger events
and connect them back to the other side. We don't want to be grifters, bro.
We don't want to be grifters. But yo, want to be great but yo i think y'all with the mint gg thing because that's just doing like 3d
files while this thing is going to blow mint gg out the water as far as like what it does
and stuff like that because making a 3d object is cool but making a 3d thing that's rigged and
ready to rock and roll like that's that's the real sauce. You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I don't think anybody dropped the ball on anything.
I mean, people are developing different things.
They're working on things.
MinGG is also a great team.
They're doing great things.
They're on AppChain where they actually develop a lot of test products.
So I think both probably have their own benefits in different ways.
For Director, I'm excited to see as he continues to train his model,
how it improves.
And he's a hustler, so I'm sure it'll keep getting better.
I love it.
We've got some great conversations going on here. Gaming Ape Show episode 2,052,417.
Going to swing it over to my guy CryptoBullies and then Hype
to keep this thing rolling.
CryptoBullies, again, two great builders about the chat.
What's up, Bullies?
How are you?
Welcome back to the show.
Happy Monday.
Hello, Gavna.
Yeah, how you doing?
My bad.
I literally just jumped off a word call.
Got another one coming up soon, but I want to speak on the scape shins.
DC made a really dope ad to him, by the way.
He's been cooking a lot of cool shit.
I think my first VR experience in the other side
is through basically just modding the fuck out
of the setup on my local machine
and using my meta quest and all this other stuff
through steps that he shared with me. And then I jumped into a world that he kind of ported and using like my MetaQuest and all this other stuff
through like steps that he shared with me.
And then I jumped into a world that he kind of ported
like it's a 3D JS world, but he created
and made like a VR experience there as well,
which was really cool.
And I had like the opportunity to work with him
to test these different things out.
And naturally when I reached out about wanting to test this and
express my interest in testing this um he obliged he sent me the link told me you know and all that
other stuff so i bought myself some credits uh made a couple uh uh slopped my eyes 3d of avatars
and uh kind of updated a couple pals uh to to you to test them out on the other side.
And it's just like the quickest way to do that, honestly, temporarily.
But while I agree with Macavelli, definitely there's a quality that you won't get
with an automated workflow like this at this current state, it's still really like far ahead
of what we could even imagine last year,
let alone five years ago.
And so I can just imagine with time how much this improves.
I will say this is like out of the box,
like just downloading it straight from the tool,
you can run around,
you can, you know, it's fully rigged and like everything, right? But you can still take it
into Blender, you can still tweak it, you can optimize yourself manually and so on. And people
can add this to their workflow. You know, like you can go from instead of zero to 100, you can go
from like 70, 85 to 100, really, really quickly implementing, you know, this tool in your workflow.
And for people who do like things like 3D printing or whatever the case may be, that isn't so,
you know, you can do animations with this and maybe you don't care so much about the nitty gritty
details, but it works very, very well. And the cool thing is like you know when you when you do the generation
you're providing some images it creates his own image that works really well with uh i think it's
using tropie tropie or whatever um as the generator and then he has a couple other implementations for
the rigging part and all that stuff but like pretty much like he's doing multiple steps in this process that like no doubt you can probably figure out the
workflow and do. But with the time you save, how quick it is, and just how convenient it is,
it's like brought on mine throwing 20 bucks to be able to do like 10 generations, for example,
and get 10 avatars from that in like like 10 minutes right like crazy um but that's
what he built right and so sometimes you think buy build borrow bro i'm happy to buy this shit
10 times over you know like let me let me pay you for something you built because i know how i can
implement this in my workflow i know a lot of people who do animations with 3d and blender and
cinema 4d and all that but you can
you don't even have to do shit nowadays like you can just fucking just send an image get the asset
throw that shit into your workflow and then output a video with something that you didn't have to
render or model yourself that's the value of this tool right i love the idea of deep making it a
dgen thing and plugging in a meme coin and all that. But, uh, how much, how many people does really attractive. It's about onboarding people into the,
into the other side of me, I guess. Right. But we'll see. We'll see.
That was the next thing too. So again, we're going to get the hype in a second,
but you said that there's, you know, you as an artist and a builder, there's more ways that you
can utilize this, not just for simply getting it into the other side, say getting into just like your workflow.
Can you elaborate more on that?
Yeah, well, that's what I was saying.
So, like, I know a lot of people that they try to do all the above, like they try to be the modeler, the initial person who's creating the character, you know, sketching it out.
So if you're starting from nothing, you say, OK, I want to create this scene. Right. person who's creating the character you know sketching it out so if he's
starting from nothing you say okay I want to create this scene right you have
no assets no prefabricated assets you're like you know planning out how you want
these characters to look and so on and then you'd like draw the character and
then you like think about traditional workflow and you got a model of a
character then you gotta rig it and weight paint it and do all these things
so you can animate and pose the character within these 3D scenes.
And then you got to create the assets for the scenes.
And then you got to control the cameras and all this stuff now.
Like, you don't got to do most of that shit now.
Like, it's crazy.
It's so crazy, right?
Mind you, you could just take an image or have ChatGPT, for example, take an image, or you can feed it an image to create something from.
Then you can have it look like a 3D asset.
Then you can throw that into AI video generators as well and just probably have good fucking outputs as well without even using blender but for people who you know maybe want in-game assets
or they do have this scene that they rendered in their blender they really want like this other
asset to be there there's so many cool tools out there now that like make these steps just that
much easier again not taking away from like real, like, you know, high performance assets and top quality assets that no doubt, you know, at this point in time, you still need people to create.
But for like, just like the quick like things that, you know, people aren't going to really focus too much into the nitty gritty details.
and it doesn't have these prerequisite requirements
for game development and stuff like that,
you can implement this into your workflow so easily.
And again, I mean, it's up to you.
Like I heard what Max said,
OP is like the other missing piece for this whole thing,
right?
Like OP, you can upload an asset 3d asset and they can plug
that into your OP avatar and when you connect in the other side and you use your avatar you can be
that asset instead right and so you know you're literally just creating using this to create them
through the model plugging that in and then being able to swap to that just as much as you can swap to any other 3d asset or
project that op supports today so i mean it's it's a really cool way to onboard new uh 3d models
and avatars into the other side you know i'm excited i tagged directive creator he said he
just woke up we'll hear from the horse's mouth himself. If he's not a horse, I apologize.
He can be one this afternoon if you let him rig it up.
Say that again?
He'll be a horse this afternoon if you let him rig it up.
Oh, fair.
Fair.
I mean, it's definitely something I've got to explore as a fister, too,
with getting these innings.
I don't know what I'm doing when it comes to a lot of these things
and with the art.
And also, some more shout-outs before we get to to hype we've got Evan Hilton in the house the man
the myth the legend good to see you down there we're gonna get the hype in a second another
awesome builder flinger Fridays are legit we've got my man Otter in the house what's going on
Otter we got my dude Sam what's up sam nice to see you hope you are well
we've got oc in the house some good vibes club in rocking doing some cool stuff makes awesome
animations with the fisters uh we've got again uh bucked up rocking the evan hilton pfp absolutely
love that emmanuel good to see you four five six great to see a sky arc welcome back to the gaming game show loco moco good to see you again again you come to the gaming game show you get the shout
out and the warm welcome take off your shoes make yourselves at home we do this every Monday 10 a.m
eastern 10 p.m v in the means time anytime in between retweet bookmark you know the thing
hype let's keep the conversation going well first of all you let bullies go before me said i
forgot what i was going to say sorry i had to do my little my little radio bit i had to do my little
radio bit if you want if you want a second we can get back to you no no i'm fucking with you no gmg
uh yeah no i just want to circle back to what you said about the feels just real quick because
i know that was a topic of conversation.
Of course, I mean, it does make sense that, you know, it is definitely a test.
You know, of course, when you look at the names that were put out there in terms of brands, they're synonymous to some of us that know those brands in Web3.
But in traditional marketing retail, most people don't know those brands.
But I think it's just it's for them to test out to see how there's traction, right?
There's ways they have to look at, you know,
how this is going to work mechanically speaking as well.
So again, I don't think it's necessarily something
that they go to market and say like,
this is going to make it or break it.
I think it's just like, let's get it out there.
Let's see the market sentiment and let's go from there.
So I think we're, again, we've always talked about,
we're all in alpha phase still, right? We're still building right now so i i think it's good
that they came out if it was me personally and this is my personal choice if i were a brand in
the space coming into this opportunity for a feels i would wait personally just myself like
for me if somebody came to me and approached me as much as i know it's it's first to market
go to market strategy you want to be first i'm'm the type of one to wait to see where it all goes first before I do my first launch,
if that even makes sense.
But I think right now it's good.
I think that there's opportunities for more brands to onboard.
And like Spicy Tina said back in December,
it's going to come down to the most participating communities, right?
There's going to be the communities that really show up
and show out to really bring it forward and really put themselves out there.
And I think that's going to happen over the next couple of months.
I know there's a lot of good projects in here that will put their best foot forward
to be putting themselves in a position to have feels on Amazon stores.
But back to what Mac said and what Crypto Bullets said about stuff with DC,
I think it's a great way to really experiment with your project to see, again, this is a great way to
test your community, to see if they like even having an avatar, which I know they probably would,
to gain that sentiment before you move forward and start producing or putting that money into
building either full collection or just a single avatar. i think it's a good testing ground for all of us so
take advantage of these tools when they're available that's what i would say
yeah hopefully we can get directive in here and uh and chat let him get his little coffee
would definitely love to hear more hype i always appreciate you coming on up hanging out with us here and sharing your insight again awesome builder uh if you're around tonight 8 p.m eastern
time going in to the clubhouse for a little cocktail hour or a mocktail if you're participating
in dry january uh it's all digital anyway so uh but i did have a uh you know i won't tell you what i had last time
for the for the cocktail hour but i look forward to hopefully being around tonight appreciate all
that you do for the community one is swinging on over to hypha no hand up but want to hear what
he's got to say again someone who makes awesome avatars and has got his head around the the
modeling 3d stuff curious to hear your
thoughts on this what's going on hypha happy monday welcome to the gaming ape show jam jam
happy monday uh i'll just cryptobillies could you mute because we're getting oh shit
i was waiting for a sneeze i was waiting for the sneeze Yeah, Jem, Jem, how you doing?
I'm just kind of
We're working on a bunch of stuff right now
A bunch of new wearables
And all kinds of games
And all sorts of stuff
I'm kind of all over the place a little bit
Because I've also got Hypha Labs
I'm trying to get stuff going with that
AI stuff
Yeah, it's cool.
I don't care about any of it at all.
It doesn't help my workflow.
I would say that I work faster than most of these tools
and will get a much more usable result.
The thing is, at the end of the day,
these things aren't, whilst they can be rigged
and can be white painted and workable
they'll never be like just due to the way that it produces topology and stuff like they'll never be
uh over usable like you'll never be able to produce a higher quality version of it for
if you want to do like a for instance a really high quality cinematic depends if you care about
this kind of stuff right like as well i would say if you're a project and you're serious about building out your project
in the future of the other side and all that stuff you want to get built with an artist you
want to have stuff built modularly in a in a really nice way i could literally show you all
that kind of stuff because there's some things you're going to the ai is just not going to be able to do for you um and
but but it's a cheap tool you know i don't yeah it's what it is i don't think it's something that
that's useful for i think it's more useful for yeah like this the single people who are just
doing stuff but for me i don't like seeing teams or anything utilizing ai especially if you've got
funding and stuff.
There's just no reason for that.
And you're kind of slowing yourself down a little bit
because you're not going to be producing assets that are usable.
The thing is, right, so when you've got this bad topology and stuff,
this is kind of the main thing behind AI models,
is that it actually makes it a lot more cumbersome for games to deal with that,
when it has to reduce topology, because it has to do that.
It has to create LODs, and if it's in this random topology,
it's just a lot more calculations.
It's still fast, don't get me wrong, but it's just a weird thing.
And then if you want to build your own games or more professional games,
you don't want to do auto-LOD stuff.
You want to be
providing different LEDs yourself or custom made anyway it's just not a future-proofed thing to do
so I'm not interested in at all I think it's cool it's cool if it helps you do what you want to do
but yeah I personally I just don't want to see like the other side turn to slopsville this is my only thing um but yeah or whatever I don't really care it is what it is like I
at the same time I've been building my own thing to try on board people so
you know I have and I'm a professional artist like I've been working professionally in this
for years before I came to Web3.
So I have my own personal thoughts and stuff about it.
I don't really think it inspires real artists and builders to come in as well because most of them don't really care about those tools either.
But yeah, it is what it is.
I don't want to go too much on about it because everyone else seems pretty pumped about it.
No, it's always great. Dude, it's always great to hear your perspective and it's always good to
hear people from all different corners uh what they have to say on these and you know again all
these insights are incredibly valuable right someone who's an artist who's been doing this
professionally for a long time maybe it's not the tool for them but someone like myself or people up here
again i don't want to say machiavelli you know some like the more intro people to this who are
just kind of like playing around and new to these things uh quote unquote normies right uh who might
be able to help accelerate i am completely illiterate when it comes like that's what i
thought i didn't want to throw i didn't want to like uh throw you on the bus people don't understand
like i'm dyslexic and stuff so i can't even stare at a computer screen with a whole bunch of text on it because it just starts moving everywhere for me.
Like, so I'm not a regular learner.
Like, I can't sit there and read something and absorb it and learn it.
Like, I read, but, like, I have to, like, be in a very dark room and the screen can't be lit type shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, and the word's gotta be big.
So like, I learned by being shown.
I learned by like actually going through
and operating and stuff like that.
You know what I mean?
So like having somebody like Haifa
who's patient enough to sit down with me
and actually walk me through
and stuff like that as a blessing versus,
yeah, having a tool like this is super cool.
And yeah, it can produce a result,
but it doesn't help the individual who really wants to learn,
who really wants to take a hold of this stuff,
because these tools are good for quick output,
but there's nothing, like, you're not getting, like, a quality,
you're not getting the Board 8 model from Inceptive Studio.
You know what I'm saying?
Like a shitcoin, I i think kind of was a fair
you know to me that that made it a very clear in our world language of like this is an analogy
you can understand this is more like shit coining this is more like pump dot fun
and there's a link there well wait he calls it slop the miles right like what the
it's digital slot like literally like it's intended to be that but it's something that's
usable like that that's the idea it's like mind you you can go to trypo and you can yeah like you
can go to trypo and you can take it you can you can uh do a prompt or import image and you'll get
it through the asset and then you can pay for premium and you'll get a rigged asset that you can download just the same.
But what he did is his workflow will automatically rig it with an ODK ready armature and just a standard like VRM.
So you're getting two rigged assets that you can use
either Nifty or some other workflow
or whatever the case may be.
And it costs like fucking $2 a generation, right?
Like two credits.
So you're paying like literally like two minutes
of your time tops and $2.
And you got this 3D asset that you can use wherever,
you know, and multiple rigged armatures.
So I think that's the idea.
One hundred percent.
Yeah.
I think I do think over time, like these tools are like the engines are going to get better.
All the tools are getting better.
And then one of these days, director creative is going to produce the perfect avatar.
Like we know that these tools are going to get better.
And you can be like, yo, who did that? creative is going to produce the perfect avatar. Like we know that these tools are going to get better and you're going to be
like, yo, who, who did that? You know?
But I think for where we're at right now and, and, you know,
DC is just a genius for like putting this out for conceptualizing it and
having it have something that even people are almost close to being able to
play with and just experiment with.
And I think that that's also important too, just for, you know,
creativity as a whole in this space.
You know what I mean?
Now listen, I know some of y'all
are going to try to get spicy
and produce some things y'all ain't supposed to.
Probably Chesapeake probably got a whole bunch
of them already lined up,
ready to go alien babes, right?
But-
Wait, wait, wait one second.
I think we're missing the point right here of what, well? But wait, wait, wait, one second. I think we're missing the point
right here of what
well, for me, my opinion is
optimized and I have to
direct
well, whatever the name
it is.
and I'm telling
I told DC, I think
bro, this is a fucking attention economy.
And he has accomplished one of the biggest goals.
Like, fuck, my kids, my kids, my kids not even go in and and have.
How do I reach these kids?
Well, not even my kids, bro, had the same reaction with my avatars that they did with uh dc and i
have shared this with him and i'm like yo you know this is what we need you know how many people on
the timeline has given the thumbs up and they actually put people that was outside the metaverse
outside the other side has put eyes on this uh we're not talking about quality at this
point we're not talking about how it is if he's missing this or if he's missing that bro he he
has accomplished a bit that one of the goals that many of us have failed to do that is get the
tension economy and all the eyes on that and i believe the tool it's a successful tool. And if you know how to use it, bro, it can save a lot of fucking time on whatever you're going to be doing.
And especially right now, you know, with this attention economy, let's say Donald Trump wears a fucking orange suit tomorrow.
Bro, you go over there, you use a
fucking tool, and you can
just have it in minutes.
There's so many things that you can do.
Come on, man. Just do your homework.
I believe
I'm with DC.
I'm sorry, but
I mean,
I believe the tool is a fucking
it has a lot of potential.
It's a fucking rocket.
None of us have it right now.
And he's been very, very, very humble and very DJing to let all of us use it.
I'm definitely excited to check it out.
And we've got DC here.
Before we get to him, going to give some more shout outs.
My main man, Grateful Ape in the house.
We'll hear from you in a second.
RFDZI down there, the Copy Pasta King.
Always bringing some fun to the timeline.
1984, welcome back to the Gaming Ape Show.
Good to see you.
We've got Lady Never Scared.
Good to see you here at the gaming
ape show tomb welcome mr console nice to see you here again the aspiring nobody in the house
smoking guns what's up smoking guns welcome back gamble with life welcome back to the show dippy
good to see you labor welcome back to the gaming ape show great to see all the homies coming through
we're going to go to the directive creator right now because we're talking about you we've never really chatted before
dc so it's nice to meet you i actually just i just followed you on x we we have not been connected
and i'm hearing about this tool that you've got going on here and i'm very interested you know
as someone who you know i've got my gaming ape show and we've got this new project called the
fisters that are out there which 3d art but figuring out ways to kind of like create more models. Um, yeah, one of the first and foremost,
what's going on. Congratulations on this tool that you've got. You've got the people talking.
I've seen some of these things in the other side of some like human faces. Um, and yeah,
it just seems like it's cool. How do you feel about the word slop demise?
He created it.
Yeah, that's what I'm asking.
I feel, I feel about it.
I'm giving, I'm giving the credit.
Nice to connect, man.
And, uh, appreciate you waking up early and joining us here.
It's a pleasure to have you on the gaming ape show.
It looks like you're trying to talk.
I can't hear you.
Oh, I can hear him, bro.
He said,
he said,
Chespi's background sucks.
Aqua is elite,
but,
I'm just translating him.
I'm just translating here.
Oh, sorry.
Don't shoot the messenger.
I think it's back now, Directive.
I actually heard the same.
I actually heard the same, bro.
He ain't lying.
Directive, I saw a blue bubble, so I think
it should be working now.
Let's try this
again. Can you guys hear me now?
Yeah, it's loud and clear what's up man
welcome to the gaming game show you're probably gonna have a big echo but
no we're good we're clear okay good good good um yeah yeah i just uh i just jumped in and i heard
you talking uh shit a little bit um it's a collective or me personally?
No, no, I don't know
exactly what's talking about. I have to listen to the recording.
Sorry. Sorry, it was me.
Sorry, it was me.
The main thing
that is really important
is that I like
to create stuff and create things
that are accessible for everybody
so that it kind of like levels the
playing field everybody can build anything and obviously you can still build shitty
fucking stuff right you can build shit that you that probably shouldn't be another side
but i don't think tools or technology should be the limiting factor there.
So that's why with AI tools and things like that, I think it's very important that everybody has access to the tools.
Everybody gets to create with those tools.
And it allows for a lot more like creativity because the main thing is not about like being able
to use all the different tools that are out there.
It is being able to come up with like a cool creative idea or funny idea or something like
that and being able to load that right away.
Like obviously it's like super funny to if there's a meme or something like that.
You can literally take the picture,
put it in there in about five minutes.
You can run around in the metaverse.
And it's not great.
It's not like a super optimized, great model,
but it is good enough to have fun with.
And I think if we're playing games,
if we're playing the metaverse or we're sharing memes,
the whole point is that we're having fun.
And if anything, especially with the recent stuff in the news and things like that,
having fun and just people having fun is just very important to me.
So being able to let everybody use the tools
is also very important.
The tools are all there.
Like it's not something,
when I created this,
there's not like,
it's basically a lot of tools
connected to each other.
So other people can follow that same process
and do it.
But the problem is,
it just sometimes is like a little hard.
Like you use one tool and then you need to connect it to another tool
and then you need to like put it in Blender
and then you need to put it on a host and then you need to,
like if you miss one step or something doesn't work,
then it breaks and then you're just disappointed.
You're trying to load something and it doesn't work.
I've always been a big fan of interoperability for me it's also important
that the avatars are able to be used everywhere so not just other side but also like things like nifty island and and other metaverses that are out there the goal is that you get to take your
metaverses that are out there. The goal is that you get to take your things to whatever you want
to take it to and play around with it. The tools and the tools in general are only going to get
better. So slowly the kinks are being worked out. But even for like creative people that know how
to use Blender, that know how to use all the tools, the 3D tools,
and know how to set this up.
This gives them an incredible advantage as well
to be able to create something really, really quickly
and then use that kind of as like a draft
and build an amazing model on top of that
that's even better. So I put a article i think a couple
weeks out uh on my page and it's i told them i told everybody it's like hey it's not about
technical skills anymore now it's going to be about about taste about like what what do you
think you should put in like i i like i got so many requests of putting things in and
sometimes i'm like ah i don't i don't really want to i don't want to put that in there but if someone
else does that then that should be fine as well like you got your freedom of speech you got like
the same type of stuff that you put on i i decide what not to put or what not to post and what to post.
It's just like what I connect with
and what I think is fun and funny and stuff like that.
Even sometimes I like to like things that are a little bit like,
like when we make like a parody of someone and things like that like it's a little bit on the edge but I
try to like I try to like make sure that I get eat either like permission from
the person before or it's just like it's clearly like just a joke like a parody um yeah public figures are fair game well yeah
just but like there's like nuance right like you can i you can you can paint a public figure in a
really really bad way or you can make it a joke like you can clearly make it like this is just a
funny uh tongue-in-cheek joke but you can also be
you can also create really mean stuff if you want to but i just don't want to but the cool the cool
thing is is that everybody has those tools available and and and can use the tools to even
make better tools so that's that's what my stance is um and yeah, even now, all the avatars inside of Other Side
and things like that, that was a battle
that I fought for years as well.
And the amount of creativity and the amount of things
and games and fun and people that have meetings happen
because they can express themselves
it's really really fun it's really amazing so I all I'm trying to do is just make that
even better and hopefully I can release it to all students well I appreciate it I definitely plan
on checking it out and also please send me a DM with your ape chain wallet I want to give you a
gift for building cool things for the community.
I want to send you one of the fisters.
I definitely plan on checking out this platform as someone who, you know, I don't have familiarity with any of these other bits, any of these other skills too.
So it sounds like this, and I pinned your tweet up, Sloptimizing up there.
If anyone wants to go check it out, if you're not familiar with what we're talking about,
it's definitely on, you know, I'm going to go mess around
and try and create something with it
because we love finding cool tools
that the ape community are building for this.
You kind of summed up, we share the same ethos
when it comes to, we're here to just have fun, right?
The Gaming Ape Show, The Fisters,
we're here to just have fun, have a good time,
support others and help other people grow and have a good time while we're doing it so i'm excited to
contribute to this optimization i want to send it i want to keep this conversation going i'm
going to send it to hypha first too who has thoughts yeah i just wanted to clarify like i
wasn't like throwing shit or anything like any of the tool or anything like that.
My point was I was asked about how I feel about it and stuff.
And I just I haven't cared about a single AI art 3D tool since they started coming out.
And I don't think I ever will because I have that same thing built into me, you know, because I've got so much experience.
Like I can I build in and build building new traits and new things every day,
and I never have problems.
And actually, if I ever do,
sometimes I do actually generate a 3D model from a 3D thing
just to get the form, just to understand the form,
because I'm not a sculptor.
So, yeah, anyway, I just wanted to confirm.
I was just saying how I feel about things like that,
and I just don't care about it.
But that's because I have the skills to achieve all the stuff that that does.
And I would say quicker.
It's free for me.
I could do it quicker.
And it would be more.
For me, what I want to do is build out things modularly.
And make sure they're future-proofed.
And build out.
I love you, bro.
But no, you don't fucking do this shit quickly, bro.
There's no way. Cryptabilities. Cryptabilities. Shut up for a second, bro, but no, you don't fucking do this shit quickly, bro. There's no way.
Cryptobillies, Cryptobillies, shut up for a second, bro.
I'm saying, there's no you don't, bro.
Let's be real, you don't.
Cryptobillies, I'm saying this in the nicest way I can.
Shut up for a minute, bro.
Please.
You don't know me like that.
You don't know my history.
You can go look.
I'll tell you one music video, right? Alan Walker oh god i have to remember the name but fade no fade
that's that one dude i make shit way quicker than you could imagine dude like don't even don't don't
worry about me like i make 72 72 shot music videos every single character every single environment every single texture
in less than six weeks like you see me going at a pace here because i'm setting a pace i'm trying
i'm exploring lots of different things and i've never dev before coming into web 3 is the first
time i've ever dev and that's what's taking a lot of the time around the stuff that i do and
and admittedly i've taken a bit of time to get back to making animations and stuff but that
doesn't mean i won't be able to go a speeder.
Like, dude, it's not like, don't try to jump in and call me out for who I am.
Oh, no, no, no.
Let me elaborate and clarify.
I'm not saying you're not good at being a 3D modeler, at being an animator, anything like that.
What I'm saying is, is if we click the start button right now, and I said, you create this model, And I'm going to go ahead and use this 3D tool that DC made.
And I'm going to create a model that you're going to finish before that model is done in a minute and a half.
There's no way.
That's not even what I was saying, dude.
This is the point.
You need to listen.
That's what I just said.
But that's what I said.
That's not what I was saying.
And you jumped in halfway through me talking and just started coming in.
All right.
It ain't that serious
It really is not that serious
Just let me
What I was saying was that
To get the AI
Model that you generate in that few minutes
Sure, you might be able to use it
You might be able to take it to the other side
You won't be able to
It's not future proof
You won't have a high poly version of it
And a low poly version of it
You won't be able to change the materials on it easily You won't be able to You don't have a real asset version of it and a low poly version of it. You won't be able to change the materials on it easily.
You don't have a real asset.
You have something that's potentially usable, but you don't have a true, like.
I agree.
And in this very recorded space, I said the same thing.
So let's be honest.
I did say this already, right?
I don't know why you just jumped in when I was trying to have a, when I was starting to say something.
Yeah, Crypto Bullies, can you just shut up already?
Go ahead, bro. Go ahead
The bullies shut up, but but let's have something really really on mind
Hi-Fi is actually trying shit because he's a flinger so don't forget that a reminder
This isn't you know, I took everything is this is good-hearted and good discourse, right?
No one's trying to throw shit at anyone.
This is a great conversation.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no.
Wait.
Flingers throw shit, bro.
That is true.
Shut up!
That is in the nature.
And bullies is a bully, right?
Listen, he's not trying to hide it. It's in the name.
Quick reset.
I want to get some more introductions here.
Just let me finish one thing, right?
Please.
And then I'll just,
everyone can have the chaos
and shout at each other,
whatever you want.
I'm not trying to diss anyone
or any of that kind of stuff.
I'm just saying,
I have skills and I want to use them.
Please let me use them.
And please don't say that these,
like, AI things are better than
something I can produce
because I know they're not.
Because I know this stuff. I've been doing it for a long time now i've been doing it for professionally
like really professionally for a long time like and i'm not trying to like be i'm better than
thou or higher than that i just i just know this stuff like that's how i was able to jump in on
this stuff early and now build a whole platform to help people get their stuff on there and i'll be honest my my the the
reason i maybe get a little bit uh a little bit in the feels about stuff like this is because i
just wish that half of the half of the things that that the actual artists were building got as much
like uh attention and and and like glorification as these these tools that that do the thing for you like i just
that's one thing i just wish above all because it would make this space a lot easier uh for for
most for most people who are actually trying to do stuff now and actual artists and stuff like that
that's just me personally i'm not asking for anyone to stop doing stuff or any of that kind
of stuff i don't want to put anyone down I think creative tools are the best thing to have.
And, like, anyway, just watch what I do.
Like, Jesus Christ, I do more than most of anyone.
And, you know, I've only been here for over a year.
I've raised 8,008 in the whole time I've been here.
And that was, like, a month ago.
So guess how much that was.
And I'm still here building platforms for people games more art dropping wearable, you know
Like don't you know
I don't need no ai tools for that. I use the itals all the time
But you don't see them because that's they're hidden in the background. They're part of my workflow
No, I appreciate you sharing this man, and it's always good to hear from you
We love hearing from all of these different perspectives. I don't think anyone was saying anything's better than another it's different strokes for different
folks type thing right not all of us are professional artists obviously i think there's
ways where all of these can thrive in this ecosystem we've got a lot of hands up here
i'm gonna go directive since this is you know we're gonna go directive we're gonna go grateful
who says hands up and then rita our special co-host for the Gaming Ape Show today, because we are maxed out speakers and crypto bullies.
JMo, I love you.
We're swapping some people out to get Baron up here.
What's going on, Baron?
Gaming Ape Show, episode 2,052,417.
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Directive, want to send it back to you.
Yeah, sure.
Can you guys hear me?
Loud and clear.
Cool.
Sweet.
Yeah, I mean, I kind of like it that the conversation is sometimes a little controversial.
That means that at least that there's something happening and something creating.
Let it be clear that I don't think i don't like i i wasn't here
part of the first conversation but um i don't think that the tool is better than anything it's
i literally i literally called it slop to myself it's slop and and it's not like perfect it's not
great that's not the point the point is that it removes the barrier of entry where someone can come up with an idea
and then really quickly articulate it and then just have fun with it.
It's not about creating a perfect model.
It's not about creating this super optimized thing.
It is about having fun, being able to take a picture and turn it into something else and then
have fun with it i think it's very important and if you look at like all the other tools that are
out there like banana banana the images the cling the the the videos that are being created it's the
same way i am a motion graphics artist and i see a ton of people use video tools and I see even now there's
like skills to actually make motion graphics but I don't see that as like a like oh hey
I'm not going to use it because I get I have other tools or better tools that I can I can
use I like to try to incorporate those
tools as a tool as part of the tool set because you can also take those things
and then make them better and create better stuff and the the main goal is
that for some people it's like that process like obviously like if you're if you're a 3d artist if you're
an image artist you you have this this skill set of creating and building and doing stuff that you
maybe worked on for for years so yeah i i understand that sometimes it like kind of
feels like weird it feels like oh what's going on? Like this AI tools are coming in and like,
how do I deal with that?
But the most important thing is that I think
that it should be accessible for everyone.
And it is just so that people can like use it.
The tools are gonna get better.
There's like segmentation.
There's all kinds of different things.
It's slowly, it will get better and better and
better and better that's the point but it's just a tool and uh even with like professional designers
and things like that i just like you can use the tool to like use it as a draft and then make it
like a way better thing and a way better model uh based on that if anything it speeds up your process as well
um yeah i i think that's that's the important distinction and then i have another thing it's
like i don't like to put those type of tools like uh and kind of hide them i like to be very honest
and open like look these are these are ai tools and sometimes it
creates absolute shit and that's fine too that's the point it's it's it's it's a tool and it's
unpredictable you can you can't really predict what's going on but it's part of the fun if that
makes sense makes a ton of sense uh again i really appreciate having you up here i'm glad that we're
able to connect
we're gonna go rita and then grateful what's up rita yo what's up uh dc always starting shit on
these spaces bro what's up dc no no amazing amazing work fucking let me in bro i came up
here just to get early access or better testing or whatever you want to call it and he keeps on
teasing yeah i'm sending a DM now.
Oh, wait, so I can't even just join it?
I need to get access?
Yeah, he's gatekeeping it.
Interoperable my ass.
I'm not gatekeeping jack shit.
No, no, no.
But on a serious note,
what I was saying in all this,
I don't see this as a bad thing.
I see this as a bad thing. I see this as a great thing.
I see this as an amazing tool to have
for any 3D artist or 3D studio.
And we will be definitely using it in our pipeline
because the speed that it does it in,
there's no way you can answer that.
Even for concepts, even for stuff like that,
the AI comes up with some ideas that you would have never thought of as a creative.
That's how we will be using it, once he gives us access and stops cock-blocking it.
I'm sliding in your DMs right now.
My ass, man. That's what you've been saying for three days no no but no no but on a serious note it's it's uh ai is
great uh ai is the um is a calculator for doing math um you can do math yourself but you can do
math faster with a calculator um and this and this give you, I think this is an amazing tool.
I can't wait to use it.
And I think it will up our game
quite substantially.
Depending if there's a financial
angle to it or not.
But yeah, please let us in.
Insert Eric Andre meme.
Insert Eric Andre. Let me in, let me in, appreciate coming to hang out here,
man, this is an absolute banger, some more shout outs, we got Fiends down there in the house,
we got my main man Gabe down there hanging, what's going on Gabe, we got ABP kicking it,
cool chick in the house, what's going cool chick uh platy again you come to the
gaming game show as always you get a shout out a warm welcome take off your shoes make yourselves
at home this is our space jcs snacks down there doing his thing cryptoli in the house um squid
you want to give somebody else co-host i need to jump into a call uh yeah i love let yeah i love you thanks thanks for coming thanks for coming up talk to you soon
grateful what's up grateful how are you what's up guys how you doing uh great listening to
discussion i also learned a lot especially from haifa and his he mentioned the polygamy model
uh which i probably have to try uh i don't know what it is about probably
something with the metaverse but guys I'm so hyped about the other side I just
reached level 40 so I maxed out that's really dope and you know I love Gary P
that's incredible avatar that's the best one that really got me that that's so
crazy and yeah the AI is absolutely nuts.
If you don't have Mac Mini,
I don't know if you're even in AI right now.
So man, doing great.
Such a crazy day today, right?
Squiddy, especially for us
from the ABC basketball show
because today it's six years
since Kobe crashed with a helicopter.
It's a sad day for me.
I have it in my calendar, so rest in peace.
Crazy day, crazy day.
But other side is great.
Can't wait.
Guys, do we know what happened with the features?
Because there should be some new features last week.
I know there are new badges, so do we know what was released?
In terms of I don't know there should be some new features in the other side right oh one of the things I
did notice is that when you're going to do your bouncy we do your bouncy task
you're not just like banging the bubbles anymore you're actually flipping which
is kind of which is kind of nice although I did like the bubble bang
right it helped you know it showed that the hip fluidity was still there
but now when you jump on the goo it does these little flips that's the only thing
I noticed personally if anyone else knows anything drop them in the comments
and say what's up
anyone under do you allow anyone under level 40 on stage actually like i don't know yeah i'm a
i'm a simple 22 and the gaming ape show is for everybody grateful you know this
you know this as long as you know i'm only a level nine turtle you know so i don't know if
you guys know about the level nine turtle but that's where i'm at tell me more baron
dog i'm so surprised you don't know that meme.
I'm going to send you that video.
This guy goes to raves and interview people that are fucked up.
He's like, what are you?
He's like, well, I used to think I was an alligator,
but I'm a level nine turtle.
I can't even know that because I'm a retired raver,
semi-retired.
Semi-retired raver.
Yeah, please share the meme meme great to see you baron
hope you are doing well how are you feeling we're gonna get to you then we're gonna go up to we're
gonna go to bullies and then we're gonna go to ll cub uh man big week for the other side and for
the apes it's cool to see the feels out there again we had rita here um with the uh you know
with the g's gabe was down there some some heavy metal ones, and it's been fun to see. We've
had some little discussions there. What's on your mind for Ape Chain right now, if you
listen to Convo?
Ape Chain, to be honest with you, Board Ape Yacht Club's always on my mind, not Ape Chain.
That's my focus. But to be honest with you i just love seeing all
the energy lately here's what i will say is is the feels was something really really fucking cool
seeing it start with like chimpers and then kind of spin off to other communities and seeing g's
like i got in the feels a little bit when i saw rita's post about like how surreal it is that
you know a year ago they're they're launching and now they're on Amazon.
And, you know, I, I think one of the things I've been messaging a lot of people in the
club this lately is I'm so proud of so many people in this club for the growth that they've
put in, in the last few years, you know, and mainly in the last year when a lot of people
dipped and were like, you know, this is the bear, fuck this.
I can't handle it.
And they're out.
A lot of you guys dug your heels into the, into the ground and said, you know what, fuck it. Like, this is where I want to this, I can't handle it, and they're out. A lot of you guys dug your heels
into the ground and said, you know what, fuck it, this is where I want to be, I want to grow,
I want to take my time here to level up, and that's where you really level up, is doing it
when no one else wants to. All the people who used to ask, how do I grow my presence here,
da-da-da-da-da, you all did it. You're all doing doing it. Even fucking even DC, I give you mad
credit, man. Like, you know, you, you keep developing and pushing and you definitely
fuck around and have fun. But like, that's the point that's valuable is you're having fun,
you know? And like, I love seeing that over the periods of time that we've grown together and
had this time, like there's so many of you guys just accomplishing dope things.
And then, so I got fired up hearing that AI. I'm like, like Rita said,
that's a tool. You might be good at math,
but you could do a lot better math now that you have a calculator, you know?
So exciting times ahead, man.
We always do say I am no math major, so I need all,
I need all the help I can get. You know, that's,
you can't be a math major and get up to episode 2,052,417.
Yes, Quitty.
Who doesn't love Team Baron's fucking dev arc with the games and he's building apps?
It's so fucking cool, man, to see your ape come alive.
I remember when you started off with the videos, when that tool really came out for you to be able to animate your ape and stuff like that and you've just been on this train ever since then and we love to see it man well thank you bro and you know what the one thing i always do with that
and the reason i love doing it with my ape specifically is like for me it's always been
about growing the ape ip right and like the more we can show other people the more they can create
because it's not that hard like yo put it in this app push these buttons and some cool shit will
come out with your with your character now so anything i can help uh anyone learn so that they
can do it also there's an ai little chat group that we've started with a bunch of apes i said
at meet the clubhouse if you guys want us to add you because you want to contribute or learn
together a lot of different people from the community in there just sharing AI tips.
So it's kind of cool.
I'm going to have to check that out.
Going to have to check that out.
Also, I forgot to mention this once.
There is a badge for the show.
The code is SNOW.
S-N-O-W.
If you are an open page badge collector, a gaming ape show badge collector,
the code is snow crypto bullies in the house.
What's up crypto bullies.
You're man.
What a banger of a space.
What an absolute blast as always.
It is.
It is.
It is.
I think these are the debates that everybody wants to have,
but also nobody wants to have. Right. I think AI is definitely one are the debates that everybody wants to have, but also nobody wants to have,
right?
I think AI is definitely one of those things that's going to trigger people.
And at the same time, I want to say, I mean no disrespect.
Like, Haifa is one of the people that I definitely respect in this space who's building on a
daily basis in public and is shipping out a lot of cool shit.
And I try to support everything he's doing, much like, you know, I support all the best builders in the space.
So I just want to say that, like, as a preface.
And in addition to that, I am also a fucking –
I also want to interject too.
If I thought that there was any disrespect, then it wouldn't be fine.
I know you guys well enough too.
And, like, again, the conversations are just good are good to have. And we're allowed to have,
you know,
if we all thought the same thing,
if there was all one hive mind,
then what the fuck are we doing?
Right.
I agree.
So like,
I know who you are.
I know,
you know,
I love you.
Love Hifa.
Love.
I fucking love every single person in here,
man.
Like we've been doing this for a long,
long,
long time and wouldn't be sharing the stage where people who are comfortable having people up here doing their thing if that if that mutual respect and love wasn't there
at the forefront so i just want to make that very very very clear and you know i feel that i felt no
disrespect to this entire space from anybody yeah no i mean i mean you know i'm from new york bro
like the way i speak sometimes comes off as like like, semi-passive aggressive or something.
But that's not true at all.
As a Philly boy, I guess, you know.
Like, I just want to, I had, you know,
I'm going to clear the air.
I am a fucking
founder, an artist, a dev
who's also accumulated my
skills over time.
You know what I'm saying? Like, 100%.
I'm fodder and a half-man, too.
I mean, there's so much more even than that. But what I'm trying to say is like,
I understand the point of view of like feeling like your backs against the wall. You spent a lifetime accumulating all these skills. And now you got these, these AI workflows that can
seemingly put you out of place. Like think about how long it takes to learn how to code multiple languages. And now you got like AI that can completely code shit from scratch. And like, what does that put you?
Well, I'll tell you where it puts you as an artist, as a dev or whatever. You are more, you know,
inclined to know what the fuck this shit is doing under the hood. And you should be able to be a master at using those tools.
Right?
And just like the calculator reference,
that's exactly what I meant when I said it is a tool.
Use it as a tool in your workflow.
It's like, it's not going to go away
because you're saying, well, I know how to do this.
It's not going away.
It's just going to get better over time.
So that's all I was trying to say.
And in terms of the timing thing, like you mentioned the horse,
it took me two minutes to go to chat GPT, generate an image of a horse in a pimp suit,
and then throw it into DC's tool. And then a fucking horse is right there animating and doing
the fucking Carlton and shit. Like, bro, that's what I meant in terms of speed. Like, I'm not
trying to come at nobody in the quality of work. We literally said this in the beginning. It's
intended to be this like slopped mind's avatar, but it's usable, period. Like, you can't debate
that, right? So, yeah, I mean, no offense. I just want to clarify that, clear the air. I mean,
no malice. But the reality is, it's like, you know, you can fight against the grain or you
can go with the grain when it comes to AI, when it, you know, you can fight against the grain, you can go with
the grain when it comes to AI, when it comes to all this shit, go with the grain, figure out how
you're going to use it in your workflow. Because as you get older, more and more companies and
stuff are going to just incorporate this into their workflows. And they're going to be looking
for the people who know how to use this when they go hiring people. I know me personally,
how to use this. When they go hiring people, I know me personally, I'm making sure I have devs
who are on payroll that are proficient in using these tools in order to improve their output and
productivity, period. Literally, that's one of my qualifications now. It's like, what are you
doing now? What kind of projects have you created using AI and all this stuff?
And that's literally like where this industry is going.
Like all these industries, art, tech is using AI as a tool to improve and increase productivity.
Because at the end of the day, like time is money and that means more money for less time.
So, you know, you can, you know, go against it or go with it.
That's totally up to you. But I choose to go with it and learn and adapt and grow.
And, you know, I'm always a student, period. I never think I know, you know, so much because I spent X amount of years.
I want to learn more. And so when I when DC was dropping this shit on me, when he when I did the AR,
the VR experience in the other side or his his, you his own web-based 3D world and all the stuff
that I've done, I was like, bro, I definitely need to get into this Optimize tool. When he
announced that he was going to make it public and shit and that he was testing it, bro, I was like,
bro, you guys should be that old. He did. So shout out to you, bro. You deserve all the flowers,
100%. And I can see where this is going. Obviously, you're? So shout out to you, bro. You deserve all the flowers, 100%. And I can see where
this is going. Obviously, you're utilizing a lot of tech that is available to everybody, right? Like
100%. But the workflow that you created and some of the things that you created yourself and
incorporated in that workflow that isn't readily available to everybody is what makes that tool so
powerful. So yeah, keep doing some really cool stuff, man. I'm sure
the tech that you're using is going to improve over time in addition to what you're building
in that workflow is going to improve. And no doubt, I mean, look at this fucking horse. Guys,
look at the horse doing the Carlton, bro. That shit took literally no time at all to create it.
And I created it because Squiddy was talking about we want to hear from the horse's mouth
and Machiavelli was like, give him some time and he'll have a horse. We want to hear from the horse's mouth.
And Machiavelli was like, give him some time and he'll have a horse.
And I was like, cool, let me just create this pimp-ass horse.
And there you go.
Now he's in the fucking Carlton, right?
So like, how long, if I opened up Blender right now, bro,
I would still be working on the fucking model,
let alone this whole thing.
So, bro, keep it up, man.
This is what people want, is what people need.
And so, you know fuck
that shit go with the gray i appreciate you boys as always as with everyone here and again dc
please make sure you send me your addy because uh yeah i want to get in i want to i want to
slop them eyes i need to check it out because i have no skills we're gonna go grateful and then
we're gonna go yaper in the house and then we're going to go Alex and Cub. Two hours in to Gaming Ape Show, episode 2,052,417. It's an absolute
banger as always. Shout out to everyone taking the time to hang out. Hopefully you're learning
something. Maybe you get a little laugh or two. You know what it is. I'll do my sign off later,
but we ain't done yet. We can't stop it right now.
Man, we've been doing the Gaming Ape Show
since the inception,
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We've never taken any sponsorships or whatnot.
Seeing 80 plus people in here
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So thank you everyone who's bookmarked
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we will be giving away a fister i might even have to give away two fisters because this has been an
absolute joy uh grateful time is yours we don't need to stop anytime soon fuck it let's go man
i will just have to drop into listeners because i'll be driving and don't want to disturb you with
a shitty audio quality but guys the vibes here incredible i absolutely love spaces
because spaces have no algorithm like the timeline right i don't see any you know stupid shit as on
timeline i love it the vibes are great let's fucking go only thing i need from ai is to create
some like 3d avatar that i can prompt and use it for instagram reels, Instagram stories, TikTok,
because I want to crash that shit.
I want to get out of Web3 bubble.
I'm trying, but it's still not easy.
And I saw a few people joining BAYC and Mutant Club, guys.
Big shout to you.
Maybe one reminder.
Aqua starts with A, which means A team.
So if you are looking at some apes or mutants,
keep in mind that uh
aqua might be the the right choice for you love you grateful again grateful is my favorite space
host in the game tuesdays and thursdays make sure you're checking out the grateful show uh no one
does it better nobody does it better so uh yeah drop on down the listener i love you and talk to
you soon i'm seeing a
thumbs down for proof of alpha there's a lot of great space hosts but listen he's just my he's
my personal favorite right he's my personal favorite that's a choice i made that's my story
i'm sticking with it oh that's the orange it's the orange it's like ostrich so love you brother
talk to you soon and make sure you tap in on friday for the eight ball
club hosted by grateful ape marathon and myself we talk nba one of the things we're trying to do
to uh break out of the bubble uh yeah we're cartoon jpegs but we're talking nba we're talking
hoops and we're gonna try and get more uh basketball people in there we keep saying that
but time to put our money where our mouth is.
Yaper, welcome to the Gaming Ape Show.
Nice to see you.
Happy Mutant Monday.
Thanks for your patience.
Yeah, no, definitely.
It's a yaper, yaper, yaper, yaper, right?
It's yaper, yeah, like paper, like paper.
Let's go, let's go.
All right.
I hate mispronouncing anything.
No, it's all good, man.
People call me yapper, Yaper.
It's fine.
Either one is all good.
What's on your mind?
Welcome to the show.
Yeah, thanks.
Thanks for having me.
I just wanted to touch base on what we were talking about by Director Creator.
His tool was pretty cool.
pretty cool um what it does is it also allows um founders who you know don't have a huge amount of
money to be hiring you know what i mean like these these avatar creators that you know can be a little
expensive it allows them to kind of get into a space that they were you know kind of excluded
from so like i've used the tool. It's great. It does a phenomenal
job at like creating what you want, as long as you give it, you know, four different angles of
your avatar that you want to create. And, you know, I welcome tools like this because it evens
the playing field for a lot of founders who don't have that access to somebody who you know isn't
probably going to take advantage of them or to overcharge them or just you know what i mean
keep keep them from having funds to invest in their project elsewhere so um you know if if you
don't want to use it that's fine but these are here, you know, to kind of bring everybody else to where we're at on creating for the games, you know, for the community identity.
Being able to like play with your favorite character is huge.
You know, like they were saying, create something that just pops into your mind.
It enhances the imagination in the space.
So I don't see it as like a negative
thing um it's you know should be welcomed as a positive um but i i do get i understand what uh
you know cryptos bullies was saying is that you you learn this you uh take all this time to like
gather this uh knowledge to create code and all that stuff.
And now you have tools like this coming in pretty much knocking you out of the water.
So I get the defensive part on that, on that side, but it's definitely a tool that will benefit the space.
I appreciate coming up and sharing, man, always.
And make sure you check out little mutants
Awesome little projects. No pun intended
Yaper awesome builder great community member and appreciate having you up on to the show
We're gonna swing on over to Alex Lee then Cub and then we've got a new friends my man cyber Jake
Let's go Alex as we keep the gaming ape show rocking
if you're still having fun you want a chance to win a fister hit the retweet book market that
you'll never look at again um and yeah let's let's keep let's keep rocking it i got i've got no job
anymore i've got nowhere to be what's up alex yeah man i just wanted to really just sort of give some
flowers to dc and like i say it's
opening up the playing field for everyone i i remember before others like when nifty island
kind of first come out i had some 3d 3d models created and uh i couldn't do anything with them
because i needed them rigging so i like i say i couldn't i couldn't do anything but then it's like
it's like the similar to what miximo has done where you can sort of auto rig things but you've kind of gone one step further where you're building the model
and rigging it so i think it'll be really cool because like i know it's not i know it's not the
best and uh you know slop like to say is slop but it might turn out you don't know it's like a 50 50
like what it's turned out i've got a question though for dc is are the rigs just humanoid rigs
or are they animals as well bro you got a dancing horse in the in the uh jumbo chumbo like so
obviously the armature is pretty limited and in terms of like it needs to be like a bipedal like
humanoid avatar but that's just like the
current limitations and constraints but uh you can obviously have like an animal be created so
like i put a button like in my prompt when i created the images used for that model i said
let me get a bipedal uh horse type character and like a purple pimp coat with zebra stripes and a gold rope chain, gold aviators and a gold feather.
And like literally got those images in different angles
and then shot it into DC's tool.
And then fucking like less than two minutes later
had the avatar, you know, fully rigged and everything.
So like really cool shit.
I mean, I'm waiting for DC to make me,
allow me to skip the chat gpt step and
just throw the prompt inside there and then put yes or no i want to use this you know
all right well so i got good news that that's already there no you didn't what yeah so
let me answer the question about the rig first. So you actually can.
You can actually create quadrupeds and avian rigs as well.
The reason we don't do that is because in other side,
it only takes the same rig, which is a bipedal rig.
So you cannot load something with four legs.
It will just not work.
So I've been trying to mess around with that
because if you upload an image of a bird,
it will give it a bird, an avian rig.
So I had to make sure to not do that
and still make it a humanoid to make sure that you can load all your images.
So eventually...
It is there. Sorry, sorry, sorry. You got to click the plus. What the fuck? My bad, my bad.
Eventually, I will probably allow you to create other skeletons. It's just that those you cannot load in other sites,
but maybe you can use them, I don't know, anywhere else.
You use avatars or things and do it that way.
Another thing, the prompting.
So the tool I made to be like, kind of like stupid easy.
It's you put an image, you press a button, the avatar comes out.
And I'm trying to really hard to not add too many things
to make that confusing.
It's just you load the image, you click a button and then you download.
That's it.
But obviously there's like advanced users, there's power users,
there's people that already know 3D modeling.
So I'm also trying to add stuff there.
So in the tool now,
there's like a little plus button next to the generate.
If you click that, you can then type a prompt and you can say,
hey, I actually want it like this
and I want you to remove the hat and do this
and whatever you want to prompt it
and then it will uh do that to generate the image and then the 3d model it also has a direct mode which allows you to skip the image thing altogether uh you can use any other ai tool any like any tool
that you familiar with that you use all the time, or maybe even like not a tool,
like something that you created yourself.
And you can then upload that and it will skip
the image generation and it will just go straight
to taking your image into the 3D model.
The thing is, if you use that,
you want to make sure that it stays in a T-post
and it's like clear and things like that.
So if you use that and you don't know what you're doing,
it's probably going to look really weird and really messed up.
But that's why the things are there, but they're just kind of like for advanced users, basically.
But I'm even going to make, probably today, I'm probably going to add it so that you
don't have to do an image at all. You can just prompt it. You can just say, I don't have an
image. I want you to create me a model of a horse. Doing the Carlton.
Doing the Carlton, yeah. and then see what comes out.
Obviously, you have more creative control if you know what images you put in
and what you input.
I'm also going to set it so that you can upload your own 3D model,
so you have a model that may be rigged to a different spec
or just not in the thing that you want it to be,
or maybe not rigged at all, like Mixamo.
How do I get access?
And then it will try to do that.
But again, it will try.
It's just doing its best attempt.
Again, hopefully the tools are going to get better and better.
There's segmentation, there's texturing, there's all kinds of different things.
My main focus is to make it easy.
These tools, you can go get these tools separately and you can do all this stuff and you can do all this stuff by yourself.
You can download Blender, it's free, right?
free, you can get an image generator.
You can get an image generator.
The thing is, being able to access it all at once and being able to really quickly iterate,
for me, that's the part of the fun.
For me, I like the aspect of uploading an image, something comes out, I'm like, oh,
that's not quite what I wanted.
And then there's also a tweak. So you can type and say, hey, this looks great,
but the glasses are all fucked up or the hat's all messed up.
Can you remove the hat?
And then it will do the same process with your new comment.
So in the process, after you're done,
it will allow you to do another tweak to your model for free.
Because I always hate it when I use 3D tools myself and AI tools.
Then when I create something and then it creates absolute shit.
And then it's like, oh, I can't.
That's it.
I just paid $2 and nothing I can do with that.
So that's why I tried my best to make that happen.
I also want to make it cheaper and things like that and better 3D models.
So I'm trying to, like, link it all together.
But it's, like, basically it's, like like four or five tools being used at the same time
that's the the process so uh people should make like tutorials about it hopefully uh i'm only
going to try to like add stuff there's also a secret function uh i'll let you know now what
the secret function is the secret function if you click uh control and dot on the keyboard, control dot, it will open up all the NFTs in your wallet.
And then you can just go straight from NFT to avatar as well.
So you can just select any NFT.
But again, it probably creates weird stuff.
Maybe it creates something great.
I used it to use it on NFTs that are in my hidden folder
that are actually really, really cool looking,
but I don't know, the project rugged
or people don't do anything anymore with them.
And then you can still load that in
and still make a 3D model and still have fun with it
and still play games and still do stuff.D model and still have fun with it and still play
games and still do stuff. And I think that for me personally, that's like
something really, really nice. And then just to end things off, I know how to like
use Blender and I don't know how to use Unreal and I don't know how to use
Android. But the main thing is also that sometimes you're just like basically creating these tools kind of out of laziness, out of like necessity of like, hey, yeah, I could rig this model for two hours.
Or I could just like test it and try it out and have fun with it in the two minutes or three minutes that it takes.
So that's why it's there.
Hopefully, it's going to get better.
Hopefully, other people use it.
Hopefully, things break, and then we can fix it.
Stuff like that.
That's what it's for.
Yeah.
Trying to get it.
It's a fun way to build, dude.
And I, again, appreciate creating this tool i think it's i think
it's it seems pretty fun and i'm excited to test it out and just the concept that you're doing this
because it's it's fun right you want to have fun give people the opportunity and the tools to have
fun if maybe they aren't necessarily artists or if they're new to it and i think that uh it's a
use and it's been fun to see some of the some of the stuff that's come out of it and excited to see what else is to come man i'm
really glad that we are connecting in the space i'm glad we're able to chat and excited to test
it out man and you know it was definitely the talk of the town on ape chain right now and it
caught me off guard seeing some of these like random avatars i'm like what the heck is this uh am i looking at fucking thread guy right now like what what is going on here someone
made like a like a thread guy thing i was like that that doesn't i don't think that's an nft
collection i don't think that's on ape chain and definitely piqued the interest so again thank you
so much for coming up and sharing appreciate it we it. We're going Cub, and then we're going to go Cyber Jake.
What's up, Cub?
Yo, fam.
Thanks for circling back around.
It's been a really good conversation.
I'm glad that we're able to kind of have these discourses.
You know, there's a lot of fluid stuff that's happening in our space,
especially with this subject right now and AI and art.
I think it's important when people are creating stuff, you have to realize as a spectator and people that are,
you know, who it's designed for, you're the user, not the creator, that there's something that kind
of binds us all together, regardless of your role that's passion and you know that's that's
a drive for this space for creativity and i think a lot of what we heard earlier that i feel like
was just kind of brushed by and again it's different strokes and yes i'm glad you can
create stuff fast i vibe code so i get it i think this is kind of like the vibe coding
proof of concept ability of taking an idea
like bullies did earlier with the horse you're talking about something boom you're able to
create it that's kind of like a meme coin to me you know it grabs that attention while it's there
you captive use it and kind of like you said earlier dc you're having fun with it and i think
that's important in this chain to be having fun i do think it's kind of you have to be careful when you're using analogies.
You know, Rita earlier said it's like a calculator.
I disagree completely with that.
A calculator, you know, you have it is a tool, right?
It's a very useful tool that we're all learning how to incorporate into our live ai
specifically but it's a tool eight plus two is ten that's a calculator when you use when you use ai
you get different results based off of your language based off of the user using it what
kind of things you're using so there's a lot you know, art refined aspects of what Haifa is doing versus what DC is trying to do. And I think trying to compare them, it does a little bit of an injustice to the space because it's, it's meant to be apples and oranges, right? It's not supposed to be the exact same thing. Just because bullies can go make something that Haifa made in two minutes doesn't mean that they're the same thing. Doesn't mean that you have
one that equals the other or holds up to the same exact standards. It again is your proof of concept,
which is very important in a space where we're all super early and proof of concept is very
important,
but it's just not the exact same thing.
So I think what both of these people are doing is fucking incredible. And we need more people thinking outside of the box like this of ways to affect the chain,
ways to captive different audience.
It doesn't mean you have to subscribe to it.
There's a huge gambling aspect to web 3 that i know is essential just
like gaming that i don't necessarily get involved in all the time i'm not every day hitting up ape
church even though i support ape church and what they're doing it's a useful aspect of the space
and i think we're going to see a lot of that happening and we have to make sure that we're not
like unintentionally pitting one project
or one builder or one type of art against each other because of an opinion about a tool or this
or that because it there is absolutely some subjectivity that's here but the creativity
the aspect that's where the sensitivity the feels you know it's
funny that we started this space with feels and we circle back to real feels and that's what these
things emote out of you you know when you see something like a thread guy maybe that emotes
something out of you when you see Haifa's characters that are like so well built and
shining and and perform, that's a different
kind of appreciation for a different kind of skill. And yeah, I just, you know, I think we're
really early on this chain. It's important not to like get into that Web3 tribalistic mindset that
I'm not saying we're doing right now, but it's what happens in Web3. We get pitted against each other for whatever ways,
and there becomes these kind of factions and sections,
and it really just destroys, I think, our overall growth
and ability to kind of come together as a team.
And I just want to say I think we should be careful about that
when we are having these conversations.
But it doesn't mean that we need to have the conversations less.
This is a really super important conversation to have i'm glad we had it you know it's funny that we had it on the gaming ape show but let's go ape chain on top fisters on top let's
go beautifully said and you know what we do here on the gaming ape show right we've been again we've
been doing this for a long time right and we're here to facilitate conversations this has been
one of my favorite ones in the years that we've been doing this show and this space. And they're great and they're with
good people. And everyone in here I know has good intentions and cares about the club and cares
about the chain and cares about the space in general. So it's an absolute honor and a privilege
to be able to facilitate this. And this is, you know, this is what we do. This is what we do. We've been doing this.
We're doing this for 2,052,417 episodes.
Jake, I'm going to go Haifa first
because Haifa was a big part of the conversation here.
And we're going to start to wrap this up.
I'm going to give away the winner of the Fister.
Before I get back to Haifa,
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Haifa, what's up, brother?
Yo, yo, yo, yo.
Yeah, I mean, just to come back on things,
I think Cub summed up a lot of things in terms of how I feel about these things
and that pretty pretty well like
for me it does feel like apples and oranges so anytime there's any kind of comparison or
or anything like that it's for me it's just like I can't see it you know I'll never be able to see
it because I know I know the complexities of things that I do and that I put into things like
and I know that I can't do stuff like that yet
and I know it won't it probably won't be able to do that for a long time uh in terms of the
you know yeah it doesn't matter all that kind of stuff he summed up really well like that's how I
feel about it so you know when it just seems like like a lot of the a lot of the conversation these
days is around these AI tools and and bigging them up and stuff like that.
I think I said earlier, I just wish we picked up some of these other tools that aren't.
Or the things that are, you know, I've built a whole platform, which gives founders, if you're looking to create a collection and build it out and have it do wearables and all that kind of stuff it gives you full control over everything it's something that it's all the tools that i have that i put
together into one thing and like i'll be honest like it's been a few people come through a few
people slightly interested but nothing's really happened uh with it and i spent a lot of time on
it so it just feels for me it just feels like uh not the space i'm you know i'm just getting a bit confused with
things a little bit i think because it feels like you know whilst this is great to give everyone
the superpower and stuff you do also nuke like the stuff that a lot of the projects are trying
to do and stuff because if people can create whatever they want like why would they wear
a project's uh pfp and i guess that's that's fine because then it just comes about the stuff that you're building around your project,
which is what it should be about anyway.
Because it's kind of my thing that I've been saying is, okay, cool, you're on the other side.
What next?
What else?
What else are you doing?
If you're just here to follow the little routes and you're not building extra stuff on top of that,
then for me, I just don't get as interested in stuff.
But yeah. There's a whole big conversation around it all i just i just won't i just can't
i won't let people compare any kind of ai art whether it's animations images i don't care
it doesn't photographs are not better than paintings and they will never be more valuable than paintings. And this is where we're at with things. I hear you, man. I hear you. Wow. We are two and a half hours into this banger. Again, I'll always give everyone a chance to speak. If you come up onto the stage, I want to say hi to Cyber Jake, and then I'm going to start to wrap this thing up. I want to hear from directive before we head out.
And then, yeah, we're going to start to wind this thing down.
Cyber, you got a quick hello here?
Yeah, GM, GM, thanks for letting me come up, Squiddy.
Always.
We're having a real high-level conversation today,
and I'm glad I joined the space today because this is a lot of the stuff
I'm working on and around.
So it's nice to hear a bunch of different takes on it
and I wanted to add some input here which is this space needs more innovation and less extraction
and tools like what Directive Creator is allowing different communities and people to use
is the proper way in my opinion to incorporate new AI tools, new
user interfaces, and kind of take all these different tools people like Hypa or Yaper
or even myself might use on a day-to-day basis to help people who don't have the creative
ability to take a business and develop it to the point where they can integrate with
something like the other side.
I mean, people really want to do this because Ugo Labs is a billion dollar company and they're
building assets with big partnerships like Amazon and countless other big brands. So I think this
stuff is very important. Thank you for allowing me to have the time to come up here. And I just
want to know, how do I get access to this? Because this is something that could benefit me in my
day-to-day life.
I'm working with a couple of different brands right now,
and I'm going from 2D to 3D and doing all the work by myself
and with a small team of people.
So this is something that would be very useful to me.
I'm very interested in it, and I'd love to hear more about it in the future.
Follow Directive Creator and turn on noties, baby.
Turn on noties. it in the future follow directive creator and turn on notice baby turn turn on notice um
directive you got anything else as i get ready to close this out want to give you
pretty much the final word well second final word because uh i'm going to swing it to
my co-host to the silent assassin uh after this um i don't know anyone else who wants to say what's up uh directive uh some some final words as we wind
down episode 2 million 52,417 of the gaming intro yeah yeah i mean again the the main goal
is to make tools accessible for everyone whether that is an advanced 3D creator or when there is like a beginner,
or maybe it's your five-year-old kid.
I think tools shouldn't be limited or not created
or not released because it might like nuke
or upset or tings other tools or other stuff.
That's the whole point of creating like a progress is being able to create new tools
and being able to make them better and to iterate on them and make them accessible for everyone,
make them low cost as well, and let creativity do its work. I think even with
all the different AI tools and all the different things that are there, you can see that the people
that are more creative with it are able to create better stuff stuff right they like i think that like everybody always like
complains about like the ai slop and there's a shit ton of ai slop but there's also stuff
that looks really really cool and really really nice and i don't think it's it's like as uh black
and white i think the point is is that you you like make it so that even someone that doesn't even have a great laptop,
has a shitty phone with poor internet, can still create a cool avatar.
a cool a cool avatar and um i that's my opinion on on just a lot of these tools and on llms and
ai tools and video tools i think overall there's only going to be newer tools and only going to
be better like maybe tomorrow uh meshy releases a tool uh where you can do all of the stuff that I just did and do it better.
And you can use that instead.
And I was thinking, to be honest, I don't really mind.
The point is that we're trying to all progress and get better and better.
I have the Chinese 3D generation companies in my DM saying,
hey, we released this new tool.
Can you use this?
Can you try this?
Can you see if it works better?
And then I was like, okay.
And then I'll be honest with them.
I was like, hey, this is really, really cool.
And this function is really, really awesome.
But the quality of this one is still better.
How can I help? And how I help and make it better?
And if we all just have that approach of for everyone,
for every artist, for every person out there
to just be able to get better, to learn new skills,
to use, like, I encourage you to use all the skills
that you have available.
So don't, not not because you can click
some and create something in three minutes doesn't mean that's like all right well now you're done
that's it like try to learn blender try to pick that up try to um see like how things were how
how do polygons work how do you make sure that things are low poly that works for games and stuff like that?
Like, it's just basically an addition, like Rita said, like a calculator or an additional tool or pocket knife that you can use.
I have to disagree on that when it comes to make, like, whilst AI, I think, is a tool when it comes to make like whilst whilst ai i think is a tool when it comes to coding and stuff
because it's not it's generating like the text and you still have to know what you're doing and
stuff when it comes to the art you don't have to have a clue what you're doing you can just
spunk out an image and then spunk out a model and it's a it's a different kind of tool i just have
to disagree on that because i do think it's a very different thing that we haven't actually seen before uh you know where it is doing a job of
someone for you whereas when you use it for other kind of most i had a really good way of putting
this but i've kind of lost it but yeah i just think it's a very different kind of tool and just
not to say it's bad again i really want to make sure i think you're i think it's amazing what
you built i just i think it's cool and as i said before i just it's not i'm just not interested in things
like that i haven't been since day one because i can make you so you you you mentioned like you
like you can use it for coding but you cannot use it for like artwork like the the the thing is like
even for coding like coding i didn't say that though I didn't say that I just said it's a different kind of thing
it's like but
to be honest it's not right
it is because you have to if you're coding
you have to constantly refine the code
you have to tell it pretty much specifics of what you want
the people
that created the code the people that
came up with how to do these things
they don't do that
coders are artists in
in their own right as well it can be it can be yeah but but the the ai learns based on
on the input right so it learns based on previous art it learns based on previous code it learns
based on previous words and previous books and all that stuff that doesn't diminish the artistry of those books or of
the code that it learned on previously or the art that it learned on previously.
It doesn't like even like music generation, video generation, code generation, text generation.
It's essentially it's all based on human input that maybe people spend hours and hours to get it just right.
And now the AI can learn from that and do that a lot quicker.
But it only could do that because someone did that work previously.
So the coding and the video and the music, it's the same type of artistry that goes into that.
Like GitHub, the open source tools
and the things that are out there and the code that's
available for everyone makes that happen.
People don't have to share their code,
but they do it because it makes everything else better.
It helps other people plug things together and create better tools as a result.
Most of the stuff that you see, even the stuff that we're using right now on our Twitter spaces,
it is not because one person made something. It is because this is based on this framework and it's based on this and it's based on, like, it's iteration.
And that's the same for music and videos.
It's like this iteration of creativity.
And I think that's an important part.
And it's an important distinction.
It's like being able to iterate more, don't think is is a bad thing and i think like yeah i wanted
to like just super just super quick i just remembered my thing because because i wrote it
down because i was thinking deeply i do i think a lot about this stuff a lot because i use as i
said before i do use ai 3d generation tools in my workflow but uh what I compare it to is AI coding.
So when you're coding stuff, it's like making a piece of furniture
with a power tool, right?
You're not using a knife to carve it or anything.
You're using this tool that's been designed for this purpose
to do this thing.
But you still need to work it in the right way.
You still need to – it's not going to work if you don't do that
and if you don't do it in the correct thing so you have to have some knowledge whereas when you're generating AI art
it's like you've ordered custom furniture right there's it's a totally different thing you don't
need to worry care about any of that kind of stuff you don't need to know any of that stuff
or the other uh but yeah that's just my kind of I do think it's slightly different there's a little
bit of a separation there where it's like yeah there's a there's a there's a for me there's a degree of separation that's just the and again
not to again i love ai two high foot there's a one of my favorite one of my favorite sayings
you could have the greatest apples in the entire world everyone who tries your apples just amazed
oh my god this is the best apple i've ever had. You know, the texture, everything too. Some people just don't like apples.
Some people prefer oranges, right?
I think there will always be a space for the artists doing things like the, you know, manually and everything.
And there's these tools, right?
Tools are tools.
They don't have to be used, right?
And I think there's a lot of space in all these.
This has been an incredible conversation.
I'm just going to swing it around and then I'm gonna do my little final sign off because it's we're pushing three hours on this space
And we're not even at a millionth episode right now, too
We just the conversation's been so good. I could not end this I could not wrap this up, but
I just stood up for the first time and my my legs were numb and
I need to stretch it out. I gotta to like go for a little walk or something
because hopefully I can get outside with the snow. We're going to go Chespy real quick and then I'm
going to wrap this up. Again, this has been an incredible, incredible conversation. Thank you
everybody so much for participating and being part of it. Chespy, you got something real,
real quick before we start to wind this down?
Or we continue to wind this down?
Or maybe actually wind it down?
Yeah, I'm actually right now trying to find out where Directive Creator lives in Las Vegas.
Because he actually attempted towards my project.
He dropped an alien.
And, you know, I'm pretty effective by that but other than that
big shout out to everyone you're the man chesby thanks for hanging out this whole freaking time
uh quick again if you're not familiar i've got a co-host he might not speak but he's very powerful
we call him the silent assassin of the gaming ape show he's got his own storytelling game called the 8102 game
supports over 400 communities you can send your nfts on eth on ape chain on missions
uh great space i really appreciate all the insight you brought this one thank you my pleasure
there he is um um yeah i i had actually two thoughts while um you know listening to the whole convo i really
loved it um like all the different um not not to say sites but um you know where people are coming
from and and there are a lot of um you know um since i've been a i've been a deaf coder for like
almost 20 years so um i i kind of feel what um you know people are going through from a professional perspective.
And I also when all those AI tools started popping up for coding, I tried a few and I didn't really like them, like the whole how you worked with them and all the stuff they actually did.
It was more like, you know, not helpful and more, you know, on the annoying side.
That's why I skipped a lot of that.
And only recently when Claude Code, you know, popped up really, really big and the timeline was full with it.
I actually, you know, checked it out again and, um, really liked where it was going or
and, and what it has become.
And, um, yeah, it became a really, um, helpful tool.
And, and I think, um, if you're a professional in any.
You know, industry that's, um, that's potentially affected by AI.
I think the best approach would be to, you know, keep an open
mind about the tools and and just try them out and see if they can, you know, help you to some degree,
you know, instead of just, you know, ignoring them and even, you know, be hostile against them
because it's kind of clear where everything is going.
And yeah, that's kind of my take on it.
Love you, Siwoo.
Great to have you again.
Everyone, thank you so, so much.
Man, what an amazing, incredible space as always.
It's just an honor and a privilege to be able to do these and bring the community together,
do these and bring the community together, have these types of conversations.
have these types of conversations.
The winner of the Fister for this space is Mr. 456.
Congratulations, 456, winning the dope Fister.
If you are a badge collector, the code is SNOW.
That'll be up for the rest of the week.
It's pinned up to the top if you like collecting those badges of the one.
We chose this particular Fister because it's got the G's badge and wanted to show some love there.
We've got a few different traits. The Fisters are the official PFP of the Gaming Ape Show,
and it's my project. It's something that we did for fun. We gave away over 260 free mints as a non fungible token of appreciation.
And we also put them up for sale so we can maybe do some fun stuff,
get some things rigged and a chance to collect Evan Hilton's art.
One of my favorite 3d artists in the space,
all hand done.
Very proud of that project.
If you want to go check out the fisters,
you can find them on secondary markets.
Your time is the most valuable asset everybody
um and hopefully you learned something here hopefully you had a little laugh uh a joy we've
been doing this space for a long time this is a space about the people and the things that are
going on in the ecosystem uh whether markets are up markets are down anything that's that are going on in the ecosystem, whether markets are up, markets are down,
anything that's going on here,
we keep the same energy, right?
We're here to have fun.
We're here to connect with human beings, right?
Both on the internet and in real life.
If you've met me in real life,
you kind of know what it is.
We keep the same energy both online and offline there.
I've had the pleasure to hang out
with so many of you in person. I've had the pleasure to give you all hugs. I've had the pleasure to hang out with so many of you in person. I've had the
pleasure to give you all hugs. I've had the pleasure to fist you all, whether it was an
Ape Fest or in New York City or one way or another. So if you've had a great time, let's all fist each
other here. Again, the fist is a sign of community, togetherness, love, connection. It loosens us up a
little bit, right? We all like to have a good time we all
like to have some fun and listen we all crave human connection here this is what it's all about
uh it's been a pleasure to do this show and to keep it up really looking forward to next week
uh before i wrap it up again dojo i just want to say what's up what's up brother it came in
at the end but i can't have you come up and i'll say hi what up what up i just want to say what's up what's up brother it came in at the end but i i can't have you come up and i'll say hi what up what up i just want to say uh seeing that fister in the
trailer it's dope as hell what trailer uh i've seen a little animated video with the little fister
from who i don't know i'll find it later was that the one when we got the avatar into the other side?
I think it is.
Okay, yeah, that was dope.
That was pretty sweet to see.
And check the DMs.
I think there was another video posted by the ApeChain account a few days ago.
I gotta check that out.
Pretty much all the collections that were on board recently.
Let's go.
I absolutely love that.
And again, to finish the sign off, if you didn't do so last time, now's your chance.
Again, I didn't get anyone DMing me telling me they did so.
But if you like someone there in the crowd, send them a message.
Be like, yo, it was fun hanging out in the Gaming Ape show.
We're nice to collect.
I like your PFP, right?
Just send them a message.
Connect with them.
I'm sure they'll send a message back too here. Again, I own mutebutton.eth, right? No one in here is muted. It's so great to be able
to find community and people who share similar values. We're able to have these conversations.
Connect with a new person, a new friend. Show some love. Our engagement is our currency on this beautiful wacky wild app we call x formerly twitter and uh
make sure you know there's so many different ways to support thank you to everyone who retweeted and
bookmarked the space 29 bookmarks fantastic uh it's just uh it brings me it brings me so much joy
uh diablito thanks for the pfp you like my PFP. I appreciate that on the money.
But yeah, again, just there's so many different ways where we can be there for each other and
it doesn't take much effort, but it goes a lot longer than you might think. You never know
who just needs a little hello, who just needs a little fisting in the DMs,
who just needs some love, right? I know that's me a lot of the times too, where it's just like
someone will randomly reach out and it really like makes my day. It makes me want to be the
best version of myself for that day. So be kind to one another, spread your warmth. Again, your
time, your energy, your most valuable assets. Spending two hours, 45 minutes with us today,
just incredible. My heart is full. If you are along I-95, I'm driving down
to Florida starting tomorrow and you want to get a coffee, if I could buy a lunch or something,
hit me up. And yeah, much love and appreciation to everybody. What an amazing fucking space.
Thank you everyone who came up and showed love. Thank you everyone who was in the crowd
listening to the show.
I mean, I love you. And I really do mean that. It's not a ruse. It's not a joke. It's true.
It really is. And I appreciate each and every one of these relationships that we've built in the space so far. Tap into the Grateful Show Tuesday. We got Agent Space coming up now. We got
Hype doing his cocktail hour on the other side at eight o'clock
tonight,
too.
A lot of great things and hosts.
Joe's got a space is going on.
support your founders,
support the projects here and see you all next Monday for episode 2 million
and something.
I haven't figured out the number yet.
I usually do that on,
on Friday or Saturday when I post the link,
whoo,
let's go, baby baby ape chain on top
have a great week i still have outro music it's absolutely a disgrace uh we will get that going
on at some point soon so yeah mondays keep coming they keep coming like smash mouth we started the
mondays keep coming they don't start coming and they don't stop coming.
Hit the ground running.
