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Gate.io x Ancient8 (A8) Space AMA
Recorded: July 23, 2024 Duration: 1:08:01Space Recording
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If you could just hear me, just give me a thumbs up or hearts, whatever emojis you got.
Awesome.
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All right.
Dave, can you hear me?
Hello?
Do you have Dave?
Do you have Dave?
Do you have Dave?
I might not be able to hear you guys.
Give me a second.
Let's see.
Hello, Dave?
Okay, so I guess I can hear you.
Okay, you guys can't hear me, but I can hear you, Dave.
Okay, you guys can't hear me, but I can hear you, Dave.
And Zane is here, so let me add a new speaker.
Dave, sure.
I can't hear you.
All right.
If you could just...
Hey, guys, can you hear me?
All right.
Who's this?
Sorry, I don't know which one it is.
Oh, it's Dave.
Okay, cool.
Oh, it's Zane.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I can still hear Dave.
I don't know.
Dave, you can just go ahead and get out of the room and just come back in.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
Excuse me a second.
Let me sort everything out before we start it.
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So in the meantime, we're waiting for Dave to come back.
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Alright.
Uh, let me check.
Uh, Dave is here.
So let me add him on the speaker.
Alright, Dave, Dave, Dave.
GM, GM.
Can you hear me?
Yes, sir.
Glad to hear you now.
Okay.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Right.
Okay.
So, uh, let's start with the introduction.
So everybody.
Can you hear me?
Yes, sir.
Glad to hear you now.
Okay.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
So everybody knows who I am.
I'm the Danny.
I'm not Danny.
I'm Danny.
And I'm the community manager of Gate.io.
Today's co-host.
It's been a long time since the last time I co-hosted with AMA.
So, glad to be here.
Glad to be back.
Okay.
So, let's start off with Zane.
Um, could you introduce, briefly introduce yourself?
Yeah, sure.
Um, hey guys.
Uh, very nice to be here today.
Um, glad to in, to engage with the, uh, Gate, uh, community.
Uh, my name is Zane.
I'm the co-father and co-contributor of Ancient8.
Uh, a little bit of background.
Uh, I joined Web3 in 2017.
Uh, building, um, a few other, uh, startup, uh, mostly on, uh, media side, uh, and, you know,
like, uh, also do venture investment as well for a while.
Um, started with my first startup, uh, Quai68.
It's a local media inside Asia.
Um, currently still running well, having about like 5 million, uh, views every month.
Uh, and then I also invest in Web3, uh, from 2020, 2020 to 2023.
Uh, mostly, you know, like define GameFi.
Um, I did a lot in game, uh, and then the idea of, you know, when, when, when I invested in 2021.
Um, we engaged with a lot of game studio, uh, around the world and especially inside Asia.
Uh, we started to think, uh, how to basically build a better community, uh, for gaming, gaming,
and then have the game studio to reach, uh, the, you know, like to go to market better.
Uh, so we started Ancient8, um, and then, uh, you know, like growing from there.
Uh, very nice to, um, be here today and happy to share more about Ancient8.
All right, Zane, thank you very much.
It's an honor.
And then we're glad to have you out here on board, uh, for the speakers.
So thank you very much also for your introduction.
So let's see where you've been here since 2017, building, building.
Awesome.
Uh, we all have a lot of big respect for, uh, two builders in the working space.
Thank you very much for introduction.
All right.
So Dave, could you please do, uh, your thing as well?
Yeah, absolutely, bro.
Yeah.
So my name is Dave.
I'm currently the, uh, ecosystem lead at Ancient8.
Yeah.
A little bit of my background is, uh, I started the, uh, Web3 journey back then in 2020 as a
research analyst.
And, uh, after we gathered a lot of research already, we want to, uh, bring the value that
we gathered and, uh, put it onto the applications directly.
So that's why we, uh, decided, uh, to, uh, build the Speed3, which is the user acquisition
platform.
And after we got the familiarity with the software and also the, uh, because we are working between
the community and also the games themselves.
So that's why we, we understand the demands from both sides.
So, yeah, Ancient8 entered a new phase of building the, uh, Ancient8 layer 2 to, uh, tackle
these problems and also offer more flexibilities in terms of the, uh, infrastructure and distribution
channel for games to publish in a very decentralized way.
Okay.
Awesome.
Thank you very much for your introduction as well, Dave.
And, uh, you're also two builders, uh, and the legit builders of Web3.
Awesome.
We will need you guys in the future as well.
So, uh, let's, uh, get this going, discussion going with about the Ancient8.
So he briefly introduced about, uh, Ancient8.
So, uh, I guess we, uh, all these here want to hear more about the, uh, Ancient8.
Uh, Ancient8, what is guys building and what is the big things in prepared and the public
plans and all the stuff.
So, uh, before, uh, before we get to the, uh, discussion, I would like to let you guys
all know the audiences, uh, there's nothing, it's worth nothing to discuss this financial
advice.
So please do your research before you making any investment decisions, but you are here
to be educated as well.
So, uh, hope you guys learn a lot about Ancient8.
So thank you very much.
Oh, Zen is out.
Yes.
Um, let's see.
Uh, okay.
Okay.
Oh, there you go.
There you go.
All right.
He's back.
He's back.
So, uh, we have a two speakers.
Um, so, um, I guess, uh, we can ask both, both of you, but, uh, I would just mainly,
uh, I'll just ask, uh, either one of you first.
Um, and if you guys would like to add to, uh, the answer, uh, you can raise your hand,
uh, or I was just gonna ask you to make sure you don't have anything to add.
Okay.
So I don't wanna miss, uh, I don't want you guys and I don't want audiences to miss anything
about the, uh, Ancient8, but we of course have a limited time.
So let's do make it smoothly and let's get this going.
Okay.
So number one questions.
Uh, so we have a five questions and also we have a Q&A sections, uh, from the community
that's already prepared, uh, uh, beforehand, uh, before the CMA.
So, uh, we do have a already answer.
So if you have any questions, you can go ahead and leave your commissions below in the
comment section as well.
But also you can, uh, just tell us why you've always shown today, uh, Ancient8 as well.
Okay.
Uh, for your, for your chance to also win a lucky troll as well.
All right.
So we have a five question.
Let's go to the first question.
So, uh, you already introduced yourself and rolled out for the projects.
I guess, um, uh, could, so Zane, let's go with Zane.
Uh, could you introduce a little bit about, uh, uh, Ancient8 and, um, what's going on at
Tamal?
Yeah, for sure.
Um, yeah.
Um, you guys hear me, right?
Yeah.
Just got it.
Yeah.
Disconnected.
Just want to make sure.
Yeah.
Actually nowadays, you guys see, we have, uh, the whole ecosystem of, um, you know, uh,
product, uh, for gaming, both from infrastructure side to, uh, to gaming, to, to like consumer
app side.
Um, but we actually started very humble in 2021.
Um, we started first as a, um, more like a gaming community, um, as a gaming guild.
Um, so, uh, so, uh, at the end of 2021, beginning of 2022, when, you know, all the play during
game or the like web free game was, uh, you know, getting a lot of traction and mass adoption.
Um, we, uh, was a group of, you know, like team, um, based inside Asia, um, uh, with the demand
of the market.
We started the gaming guild to basically just like acquiring, um, you bearing, uh, entity
asset.
Um, and then, you know, like have to empower the player here to get access to web free gaming
and make, uh, extra income from there.
Um, those are a pretty good day for gaming guild when, you know, like I still remember we
were making about like a few hundred thousand dollars every week just from playing the game
and, you know, all in the, uh, own the entity asset.
Um, but you know, like all the game file, uh, and they play to earn and the, uh, you know,
like 2021, uh, game, uh, just like, uh, going too crazy.
And the quality of game back then wasn't good enough for the whole industry to, you know,
like maintain the, uh, the momentum.
Um, so, uh, in the last two years we saw a, you know, like a, a, a, um, a job for a web
free gaming.
And that was also the time when we started to, uh, redirection and repositioning our, our,
uh, model from a gaming guild to a, uh, software builders.
Um, so, um, after gaining traction in 2020, beginning of 2022, um, we started to raise
funds.
Um, so, um, after two rounds, we raised 10 mil from our investor.
Uh, we have, uh, Pantera, Dragonfly, Hash, Mechanism, uh, Coinbase Ventures, and, um, and
many others, um, supportive, um, NGOs as well to, uh, support our route.
Um, so we started to use the fund to, uh, build different software that have game studios
to onboard users and to monetize their, uh, games better.
Um, so the first product we launched was actually, uh, an entity launchpad, uh, but, and, and
token launchpad for gaming, um, just focusing on the high quality one, uh, trying to position
itself to be a, you know, a, a, a, a playground and the gate, uh, for many people to get access
to Web3, um, in a safe way.
Um, but then, you know, like, you know, in the bear market, of course, the launchpad will
never work.
Um, so, um, we are trying to think, okay, back to the fundamentals.
We need better game and we need better distribution for game.
So we build space three, um, which is the second product.
Uh, that one is like a, um, um, you know, um, web free gaming, you, uh, user acquisition
platform, um, that, uh, we, uh, have games to, you know, like, um, onboard users from, you
know, like doing on-chain quest into in-game quest.
And then like trying to filter, like the, uh, the high quality users that have with the
development, development of the game through different stages from testing to alpha to like,
you know, like beta test and the game launch.
Um, on the, on, on space three up until now, we have more than a hundred games that, you
know, already deployed a UI campaign on, on the platform.
And some of them use the platform or, um, a few times, you know, like basically it bring
them, you know, good users and the high quality, um, users, um, for their, their game.
Um, so that is a three, um, uh, the first product, uh, the second product and the,
the first product that hit product market fit for action.
Uh, we have a million users over there.
And then, um, after space three, we, um, copy, uh, brand universe.
So red universe is like a, you know, um, a placement, uh, you know, uh, in-game asset
placement and, uh, interoperability protocol for, um, that have to connect like, uh, brands
and games.
So imagine if you are, you know, uh, for example, you played a racing game and then you, uh, when,
uh, when, when you are racing, you might be seeing an ass that, you know, on the side
road, maybe a Coca-Cola, um, logo or like, uh, some of the other, like web reprint logo
like Binance or like Coinbase or something like that.
Um, and then, um, the game will earn extra income from the, you know, like the number of
impressions and users they have, um, and the number of impressions they generated for the,
the brand itself.
Um, and the good thing here is that it's not a manual process where, you know, like the
game will have to work with the brand, like, you know, um, taking a lot of time of bidding
and stuff like that.
And then like finding a place to put the ass inside of the game.
Uh, but it's all automatic where, uh, you know, uh, the game just needs to integrate the
SDK of red universe.
And then, um, all the brand assets will automatically be distributed inside of the game environment
and different, like, um, you know, uh, uh, uh, surface of the game, game environment.
And then the, um, how, um, the distribution of the Fs.
We also, uh, based on the behavior of the users and the conversion will be up to the game session.
It's not going to like, you know, like, uh, uh, intrusive to the user experience.
Um, so yeah, with, with that second product we had, uh, also got pretty good traction as well.
Um, we have like 20 game integrated SDK, both Web2 and Web3 game.
Um, so, um, after building quite a, a few products that, you know, like, you know, uh, that are pretty
much like separated and, um, isolated from the others.
Um, in 2023, um, in September, we started to think, okay, how can we basically bring all the users?
We onboarded from the gaming view day, all the users on space tree, all the users from
Renderverse all together in one platform and connect them together.
And then, you know, like create, uh, create something, you know, more, uh, you know, like
more like a one-stop, uh, solution for, for game and gamers.
So we started to think about building an L2 and bring all of our product into our own L2.
Uh, so nowadays not just the, uh, so since we launched the mainnet in, uh, February, 2024,
we not only have our own product in our own mainnet, but we have more than 45, um, um,
team, um, including game infrastructure, uh, game SDK, account traction, um, payment solution,
uh, game, and then so, uh, so, so five product be on top of our mainnet.
Um, and then, yeah, um, after four months of launching mainnet, we, we just had the DGE
that happened, uh, uh, just a few days ago.
Um, that's the whole, the whole process of action in the last two years.
We growing from, you know, the, the very humble, um, background of a gaming deal
and then starting to build different, like small product and then gather them
all in a big, uh, platform called the ancient L2.
Uh, for ancient L2, we use OP stack and we, um, part of the, uh, the optimism
super chain.
Uh, so super chain is basically a place where different OP stack chain sharing,
you know, like the same tech stack, the same, you know, like, uh,
they will be connected in terms of like liquidity and users.
Um, actually it is being part of super chain to the, together with other,
like friends, like, you know, uh, base is also part of super chain Zora,
um, and, um, uh, like orderly, uh, or, um, uh, you know, mode,
uh, super chain is more like, you know, like, uh, delay zero for, for, um, uh,
for OP stack chain and ancient L2 is the pioneer in gaming over there.
All right.
Thank you very much for detailed introductions.
Um, uh, okay.
So is there anything you want to add, Dave?
Yeah, absolutely.
So, uh, I can, uh, add a bit more information about the, the current ecosystem
of ancient L2 right now.
So, uh, in terms of the games, uh, right now we focus more on the unique
on-chain gaming experience.
So that's why we, uh, uh, released, uh, we, the strategy that we are doing right now.
Uh, we still aim for the decentralization in the near future,
but, uh, at the moment, uh, we want to ensure the value
and the benefits for, for our gamers.
So that's why we decided to go with the strategy of co-building
with, uh, mostly the, uh, successful traditional gaming studios
in Southeast Asia.
So that's why, uh, in the first games that we released on the chain right now,
we focus more on, uh, fully on-chain game first.
For example, like on-chain clash, uh, every single step within the game
will be recorded and executed on-chain, uh, without the involvement
of any third party, but, uh, mostly based on the, uh, established logic
of the game.
And, uh, apart from that, we also have, uh, pirate clash in which, uh,
this game, we, uh, we already released, uh, two versions.
The first one is on, uh, Twitter, X, and the second one is on Telegram as well.
And the vision for this game is to enter in the daily user, uh, routine.
So that's why, uh, you can, uh, play the game and enjoy with your friends, uh,
for every moment that you are, uh, on the consumer, the app, for example,
like Twitter or Telegram.
And, uh, in the near future, we are also focusing more on the IP, uh, ecosystem.
Uh, for example, like we already, uh, released the, uh, first NFT version
of Zone9.
And Zone9 is the, uh, AAA zombie survival, uh, IP ecosystem.
And up to, uh, this moment, we already made the showcase of, uh, integrating, uh,
more than, uh, 30 IP partners already onto, uh, the game, uh, with, uh, the, uh, popular
names, for example, like Pirate Nation, KidCon Beast, for example, and Pixelmon as well.
And, uh, based on that showcase, we also in the collaboration with, uh, some IP protocols,
like top tier IP protocols right now in the market.
Uh, the name will be disclosed very soon, but, uh, our goal in the near future, we also
to bring, uh, these NFT community, uh, together and enhance the culture of the, uh, these NFT
collection, uh, via gaming, and also trying to optimize the monetization for the, uh, IP
holders as well.
All right.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate it for your detail.
This, uh, information about the H&A and what you guys are building.
Thank you very much, Dave.
And same again.
So, uh, you guys have in the build, you guys are building an amazing, uh, what
you call it, uh, all in the one solution when it comes to layer two solutions and the
infrastructure, infrastructure, gaming infrastructures in the Web3, Web3, and also probably have a massive
potential to put on board, uh, Web2.
Yeah.
Uh, players onto the Web3 games, uh, in the future with you or what you guys are building
as well, which you guys are offering as well.
Okay.
Uh, so you guys mentioned about a, a, a token, uh, launched, so recently launched.
Uh, could you discuss a little bit more about that?
What is the utility?
And how it's going to be?
Yeah.
Let's go with, uh, same.
Um, yeah.
The ancient eight token, uh, utility, you mean?
Uh, yeah.
Token utilities.
And yes.
Yeah.
Uh, for sure.
I mean, like talking about DG and the moment when the token go live, uh, we've been building
metrics.
Uh, yeah.
Uh, yeah.
Uh, yeah.
Uh, yeah.
Uh, yeah.
Uh, yeah.
Uh, yeah.
Uh, yeah.
Uh, yeah.
Uh, for sure.
Uh, yeah.
Uh, yeah.
Uh, yeah.
Uh, yeah.
Um, yeah.
Uh, yeah.
Um, that sort of leads start up, we've been building, uh, in the last, you know, like
one or two years.
Um, and the thing with, you know, I pre token, uh, startup is that you have, you have
needed time but, you know, that you, you know, that you, you there from your investor
and then you deal with the products that works.
And then do you have the commutator to support you.
Uh, but then, uh, you know, pretty de tree is a time when, you know, like you just have
the community that mostly.
More like the users of your product.
it's there there's still nothing you know like between the team and the community excel on how
to align sensitive and how to you know like uh together we build um our method um our philosophy
for building action is that we want um to make it more like a public good where you know uh everybody
contribute toward it um that's why we also join the supergenical system uh because like when we
join uh the supergenical system is make it very easy for us to like you know just collaborate
with the others um sharing this text text together um imagine you know like you have a few infrastructure
that can be applied through uh through different chain then you know like you don't need to reinvent
the wheel or for for for everything and it it have you to save a lot of effort uh when you uh when you
build with uh with each other for us um i think the token is the um the the main goal of the token and
the very high level of uh high level going on the token is that we have a way to align sensitive with
our community and we have a way uh to basically you know um call for the support and contribution from
our uh community uh for action aid in the future uh when it comes to the uh utility i guess like
action it is very um we we super we really focus on the utility of the token um if you guys actually
like look into a look look around in the action aid um uh dge date we actually live our token utility
on a very very uh early time um we um just you know uh one hour uh after dge we add action aid to
different games uh as you know um give uh as a uh wait for payment um some games are actually using
action a token for you know like buying their in-game asset already and uh action aid stackers as well we
have uh we have uh we have about like 30 uh 40 percent of the people what are receiving the address for
action aid decided to uh stack into our pool um and um for sure it will be you know like our core focus
in the in upcoming time because um um staking is a way that we see the the community is committing
to action aid futures and what we are shipping and releasing in the upcoming time um and of the one
that stack action aid token will be the one that gets priority to join all the campaign we have
uh in the upcoming time you know like we have a few cross cool cross uh airdrop uh with the other um
super uh chain uh projects uh where you know like you know uh we we will bring all those you know
benefits for our stakers and then um all the game that we really uh releasing soon as well uh when they
do the nft launch or something like that uh the stacker will have the wireless to join first or
they have some kind of like discount or multiplier when they join the game uh if there's like uh you
know a a campaign for people to employ or token uh the action aid staker will be the one that get
multiplayer uh when they when they join those game and they farm those game token and nft um so so yeah
um staking is the power um uh that uh we uh kind of like translated from the uh action aid token utility
and then uh in-game payment and then you know if you stack it we also get this guy from the nft
marketplace as well you you wouldn't uh need to like pay any fee when you trade the nft um and then the
the most important part which is um the uh governance one um we have um our governance um to be decentralized
with the token and um starting from the moment of tge um all the development of the ancient aid will
you know like go through the um the governance forum and then the community who has a token who and who
stack the token will have a way to contribute and say okay i have this idea and then i think action
it should do this i think action it should not do that um those is the really you know good way for
our community to uh and a really good reason for them to contribute to action and they feel like okay
they are part of this it's not just like we building this for them but it's about like we build
together uh through all the you know like all the way of decentralization power by hna token
all right thank you very much davy anything else
yeah i think that's uh a very solid uh vision from zen already and uh yeah yeah we are constantly
shipping more value to the staker so yeah it's uh still very uh a um uncertain uh in terms of uh timing
but we still shipping constantly the utilities and also the value for the uh stickers themselves so stay
tuned all right thank you very much you all heard it you heard it already so uh this is why the air talking
news it's uh it's a very important um aspects of the the hna equation a ecosystem as well and then also
for the speakers and this is like one of the um will stakers will have will be incentivized as some
well in the future and then also so just uh make sure to uh take note of that as well okay so just
in a second um all right cool okay thank you very much so let's move on to the next question
i have uh so we have a discussion of the project about the project what is what the development of
projects and as well as the uh token utilities and and token benefits of holding the tokens as well and
staking as well so uh let's get get into the future plan so what is your roadmap for 2024 and if you could
possibly discuss 2025 as well uh let's go with the same as well yeah for sure um i guess like uh for
gaming chain um it wouldn't be you know like too excited if you only have the infrastructure from
your side uh i think we spend uh quite a lot of time to build infrastructure already and we have
almost everything on the xana ecosystem already and not only infrastructure we have the growth layer
as well with you know the hna gaming guild with the uh space 3 ua platform and with red universe
advertising sdk so i think like on the infrastructure side we are pretty good to go and we are pretty ready
for to welcome our game developers um so we are pushing more on the consumer side even though we
had a few game that released already in the last few months um those are the game that you know like
just um growing uh with our token as well so i guess like we can see a few game on the action ecosystem
are going to have their own you know like token as well in the upcoming time uh and actually
edge taker will be very uh you know super uh uh priority time for that um we are going to ship um
a new game this uh week actually like we i'm not i'm not i'm i don't really like to talk about like few
quarter or something like that we're shipping new game this week to um you know uh basically um
maintain the momentum of our uh teaching um this is super cool uh concept where um we haven't we
haven't really announced it but you know on this on this uh uh space i can basically say it's uh it's
the first ever uh like concept uh similar to blink on solana but uh having uh happened on an evm chain
like ancient egg and um you will have a really good game experience when you are be able to play your
game on directly on your twitter post and telegram uh so it's an rpg uh social rpg playable on accent
telegram um and yeah it's super cool uh we try the game and then we you know super excited to
welcome them to the actual ecosystem uh and then we have one more um game that's going to release
like two more actually uh i think like they will be a bit uh later maybe a few weeks after so we will
keep uh shipping more games um and pushing more on the you know like consumer um side of thing um of
the action exchange and then at uh at the end of this year uh we after you know like gaining
enough traction on uh we see uh we see you know in the next like three three months i guess we really
focus on the consumer side and then at the end of the of the year uh we are working with our uh
techno uh technology uh co-partner um to basically ship uh two things the first one is that decentralized
sequencer so as you guys know most of the outer right now it's not like the sequence are not uh
are not um decentralized and hnet um are you know super excited to uh you know being the pioneer in
making this the central line um increase the uh increasing the the decentralization of the chain
itself and then uh opening a way for us to share the value and the ups of the chain back to our community
um and then we also uh shipping uh the feature of sequencer fee sharing uh where every developers
that will be able to you know um for example you have a game and then you have your own token and
your own contract on the action edge chain um we will have a way for your users to stake your token
and earn whatever revenue that you are making from your contract on top of action exchange so if you
have you know a million users and then you have a token right and then the million users is making
like uh kind of like some revenue revenue inside your game um you uh we we have a a way for you to
you know enable your user to stake your token and then earn the revenue um sharing from um the contract
you have uh on on top of action exchange so whatever uh ethereum fee gas fee you know like kind of like
revenue profit you have um if you choose to share back to your community you have a way and you have
the technology for that um so those are a few like highlight of our from now to the end of the uh the
year um actually like just just a few minutes to mention but it's a lot of work to be done in the
next few months and we are super excited for that too all right okay dave you raise your hand thank
you then uh let's go dave yeah so as i mentioned before uh also uh we intentionally want to position
ourselves as a public good that any uh games uh developer or any gamers can also come and
contribute to the development of the web3 gaming landscape together but we also realized that uh
building the game uh in web3 and especially onto a high level of quality
uh not just only require the development team and the gamers themselves but also to involve other
stakeholders for example like the uh artist creators and also the kol as well uh we we also realized that
vision so that's why we uh for the end of this year we aiming to uh release our software for the ip
integration from other top tier ip protocol and also to allow the uh artists the ones that have the
ability to deliver the artwork uh to the shift the feeling of the characters onto the game can also
involve onto this process and then we can contribute to the web3 gaming together so and also alongside
with that one we also embrace uh kol and also influencer because uh we realized that right now
influencers uh just mostly work via booking uh for example and it also takes a lot of resource for
game developers to reach out and also to evaluate and choose the best one that appropriate to them
right so we want to also build uh spaytree our user acquisition platform to uh also tap onto this
uh existing um problem and then try to solve it in a very decentralized way
oh that's amazing that's amazing thank you very much thank you very much so if you're karl
uh here listening to us um probably worth checking out so just give it a shot and just take a look at
the details and if you have questions oh yeah by the way zane and or dave uh if they have a question
how they're going to how they should be reaching out to you guys
yes so if you guys have any question in terms of the community uh you guys can tap directly onto our
discord or the telegram that inside of the engine.gg website and if you are the builder we also
embrace you pretty much at the moment via our accelerate program which is the incentivized program
and also the grow solution for games to build uh on top of the engine so tap on the uh engine.gg
website and get to see you there awesome thank you very much dave and thank you very much
thank you very much for spending a little bit of alpha awesome thank you very much we love that
all right we always do okay so uh i guess uh last question that i have um i guess that when it
comes to the web3 gaming and also the web3 gaming infrastructures game team again uh recently we have
uh a few uh a few uh gaming gaming um network uh l2s so um how how do you guys um how what what makes it
my works different or stand out among those uh computers that are already existed in the space
uh saying could you answer to that please yeah i guess like in the uh at the really high level uh we
are building in a mindset of interoperability not only in a technology um side but it's also on the
business side as well uh before we have um before we have the action l2 we've been supporting you know
like 100 or 200 of game with go-to-market with you know like uh deploying their ua on the space
tree platform if you guys don't know the space tree platform still supporting different chain uh
different game on different chain and then we keep the incentive layer of the users on top of action
edge chain so uh you know uh we we don't isolate ourselves from the other ecosystem but we have a way
to basically support them and capture the users over there as well um it's not really a um a way of
you know like vampire users but it's a way to basically you know like collaborating and adding more
value because basically you are offering some feature that is not existing there and you have
them to have more users as well um and then for example rain universe um that one we're supporting
you know like game from web 2 to web 3 and uh it's also supporting game uh on you know other gaming
ecosystem as well and when it comes to like the advertising performance uh transaction it will be
sent to action 8 mannet um so we keep the balance between you know like growing our own chain but also
like um don't try to isolate ourselves from the others and i think it's it's it's opened up a huge
opportunity for action 8 to basically capture you know higher upside from the whole web free gaming
space not just like trying to like be you by yourself grow by yourself and play with your own
community but we we welcoming and we basically work with everyone and um it uh the traction on action
exchange is you know like it's it it is translated from um the way we work with the other ecosystem as
well um on the on the uh ecosystem building side the way we are supporting game right now is um it's it's
it's also a bit different from the others because um uh we look at a way when when we first launched the
testnet we there's a lot of games that you know like come approach and talk to us and we find out that
you know most of them just like you know grant to earn uh where basically you know they might deploy
their game on different chain at the same time getting some you know like traction for the chain
meeting some kpi and you know not doing much i don't i don't think that it's a sustainable way to
grow the ecosystem just you know drawing money away and drawing the token away um and not getting you
know like the upside for long term um so we uh decided to not you know like i've been too aggressive in
you know like granting uh granting our um uh you know like fun or you know like token to the game
developers too aggressive but instead we you know go work with the uh studio itself so uh we're here
based in you know says asia we um we are connected to the you know the local developers um and a lot of
them are you know like building a lot of cool uh cool title in in in web3 but they don't really know
how to go to market so but we basically come and talk to them and understand their pain point
and try to you know um you know have them with go to market all the networking or the you know like
um applying all the uh all the infrastructure from outside that we have already uh to make their game
development um easier and faster um and then um the uh game studio uh basically uh when they
copy with ancient aid that we also have a higher commitment to with the ancient aid community and we
can basically control um not really control but we can basically you know make sure the delivery of
the the game quality and the game you know like you know timeline as well uh we think kobe is is a
really good way for you to you know like being flexible uh with the market uh when the market is moving
too fast and there's so many things to you know like to um to uh update every day um like for example last
year um uh being on some quest um platform is a good way to acquire users but nowadays um you have
to do something on telegram right so for you to onboard users and when you basically kobe with the
studio you can have a higher uh flexibility to adapt with the market then you uh then when you just you
know have some partnership and then you don't really have any like you know uh uh advisory kind of
thing or like influence over the game studio um not really influence right we don't really call that
influence but like we have a um a commitment together to basically adapt faster with the market
so co-building is a strategy that we are uh we are uh focusing on a lot right now um a lot of people
say that you know we don't need another l2 we don't need another like gaming chain or whatever uh but
you know just think about it uh web3 uh web2 right just think about just think about web3 gaming chain
is basically another publisher or like game like venture studio where you know you you wouldn't say
that you don't need more game studio because like everybody has their own edge everybody has their own
type of game that they are good at and everybody has their own distribution channel so uh when they
basically bring more content and more good game to the market the market would still want it and they
still they they happy to pay um to play the game and uh of course you know when when good content or
good game go to the market you wouldn't say okay i don't need more game or i don't need more studio or
i don't need more infrastructure everybody has their own play and everybody has their own edge and
distribution channel um so that's that's that's what am i thinking uh you know when it comes to like
the competitive landscape right now well says then thank you very much yes very good a good point uh
we do need um as you mentioned that like what we do need more chains i mean not more change but more
uh legitimate chains that are actually utilized and it may enhance the interoperability as well but also
enhance the gaming ecosystem in general as well so uh dave is there anything else you want to add to
jane what jane said yeah uh exactly uh comprehensive introduction about the kobe strategy and also
another uh unique selling point that we want to amplify as well uh yeah like jane mentioned before
like people usually ask like uh why do we need a lot of gaming chains especially the layer ones for
example and the approach of engineer we're choosing right now is we are choosing to build a layer two on top
of ethereum so that's why we can get uh instant access to any uh uh the network upgrade from the
ethereum side so for example like uh last time when the ethereum update the modular modular uh
blockchain concept right the engine engine got the instant access to that and deliver to our user
uh immediately after just only one two days of integration so that's why we already have to
reduce the gas fee uh on the engine change to more than uh 20 times already so that's why the benefit
of the user on the engine engine got uh instant uh access to any upgrade in terms of the ethereum
uh network upgrade and also the optic of uh optimism super chain ecosystem as well
oh sorry i was muted oh thank you very much okay i guess uh
uh uh so uh let's go thank you very much today and thank you very much uh dave for
for your amazing discussions and out here at that moment so let's go into the q and section before
we get into the q and section i'd like to let you guys know we do have a lucky draw so uh we haven't
selected yet so we haven't picked us have to pick the winners yet so uh please go ahead and show our
support and we do have a bunch of comments 616 comments at that moment so this is amazing more and
more a lot a lot more than usual all right amazing so we have a strong community but also hma already
have a community so um last question from me uh i guess it's from more date uh about a community so
you said that there's a discord uh is there anything that any other uh social media platform or
communities where a community community platform that are your community hangout
uh yeah we mostly hang out on uh our discord because uh yeah we can also leverage uh the bots
and the system over there for optimizing and uh offer more benefit uh bet like benefits for the
stacker and also the holders of the core nifty collection and the engine chain so yeah kelly hang
on with us on the ancient aid discord awesome thank you very much today thank you very much so if you
guys are interested interested in more uh in more learning more about the asian aid please go ahead
and join the discord uh through the uh official twitter account oh x accounts okay thank you very much
so let's go into q and section we have five questions already so uh let's go into this uh since we have a
limited of time uh let's uh if you could answer simply uh as as simple as possible thank you very
much okay so let's number one uh number one question is from miss blueberry huts uh excuse me for
gaming gaming sector is extremely competitive and many platforms had to work very hard to reach their
current user numbers um how we hna team compete with these uh existing game platforms and what
actually will what extra steps will it offer or take to get the gamers from the uh existing platform
so i guess you mentioned that a little bit about this but jane is there anything else you want to
ask this question yeah i mean like um yeah i i cover pretty much of that uh question uh previously um a few
keyword is you know like being uh interoperable with the article system uh growing the chain agnotis
uh growth layer for uh the whole web free gaming space um and then uh supporting the whole uh what
we're gaming to uh grow further um and then focusing on the copia strategy from our side um and uh the copia
studio of action it is it's it's it's pretty competitive as well because like most of them are you know
asia based or um south asia based as well and when it comes to like having the game studio over here
uh it's a it's it's a really it's basically a a huge pool of talented developers game developers
and as you see web free gaming is you know like um i i i i heard from a few of my friends recently that
you might have a triple a game but if the triple a game is not for size asia uh but it's more like in
the western side then you know like it's it's harder for you to uh get to the you know like the
the adoption faster um because like a lot of web free gaming users are basing um in asia and size
asia uh so having you know like the the the direct uh contacts and the you know engagement with the
local studio and the local distribution channel is also a competitive uh advantage uh for ourselves as
well um co-building um interoperability uh and then you know like trying to um you know sharing the
liquidity with the other super chain uh projects is also another way to talk about action as well
um we are super committed with the optimism super chain uh because like it's a it's still a very uh
you know uh if if if you look in the into the um the different ecosystem right now you might have
like arbitram orbit you might have like you know like zk sync hyperchain um and you might have you
know like op stack chain or polygon uh cdk uh actually the one that you know like on optimism op stack
on the one that you know having the most traction free tge uh if you look at like zora or base or things
like that so um our uh super ecosystem uh the is the is the ecosystem that really focus on the growth
um um and uh we think that being uh part of this um uh you know uh journey and this ecosystem will
benefit the action ecosystem and action it uses a lot as well all right awesome thank you very much
okay let's go to the next question oops what are you doing all right excuse me second all right so next
question we do have is here okay so this question comes from uh sassy but zero eight nine winning is
the most winning is the most interesting part of the nft gaming industry so asian aid allows players
not only have you have your fun of playing but also invest their time and money to get a great return as
as a pro as a profit so what are the different different different ways to earn income that asian aid
offers to its users uh which one would you like to go dave or say yeah so i think on the nft chain
right now we're not just only uh sharing the benefits for the user in terms of uh the uh investment side
but also we are doing right now is uh we also encourage them to contribute more into the game
development process for example like through game testing game feedbacks right now happening on
space 3 and we also encourage the user uh and also the kols to involve in the distribution channel
of the games themselves to actually get the benefit back and we believe uh with that way we can uh
leverage the existing resource in the web3 community uh from both uh development user and also the kols and
the artists as well and once we put all of these resources together the web3 gaming landscape on hna
in particular and also uh in the whole industry together we grow together and then that would be the
moment that we can uh enjoy the benefit and the value uh tremendously generated from the market
so uh let's move on to the next question number three questions coming from pan gets pan get two one
two four three one in a market set of in the market saturated with the metaverse and a game five
what is your strategy to survive uh there are more than 100 metaphors and again game five projects and
what makes an hna different among them all so i guess it's quite it's uh as far as i heard of it
quite different from like uh other metaverse game game projects um but uh is there anything that you
guys want to share uh according uh regarding this question yeah uh since then also mentioned before
we aiming to be interoperable and we're seeing like uh uh it doesn't have to be one particular metaverse to
win in the whole game but yeah it can actually contribute as the like uh to target different uh
group of user demand for example like if you want to have joy and very simple gameplay for example you
can go to uh a rock like or a uh simple uh metaverse 2d that can be interoperable and very easy to
load uh very um consumable however if you are hardcore gameplay you can also enter another
triple a metaverse for example and uh the goal that we are trying to achieve right now is not just
only building our own metaverse to be successful but also to leverage the interoperable infrastructure
under of the engine a through the public goods and leverage the whole gaming landscape together
that we can hopefully uh uh can be the uh engine the power that empower the different kinds of
successful metaverse in this way targeting different uh demands for the user
all right thank you very much david is there anything else you want to add for your audience
yeah i think i pretty much like uh covered the question like for a few times already
yeah thank you very much i just wanted to ask make sure it's okay okay all right so let's move it on
uh this one is also covered already but uh let's go with that uh just for taking extra steps for the
for the audience to understand uh what's real is what strategy will engine a team employees to engage
with the gaming community and give feedback for continuous involvement and what should player what
should players expect in terms of features gameplay and overall user experience from the upcoming launch
this is come this question is coming from lucas join lucas join 25466 yeah um on the engine ecosystem
right now we basically ship different incentives um even before tge um if you are a newcomer you can
start with spay three first um you can start interacting with the games with their quest and
earn some you know like daily requests there's like a lot of uh daily incentive and um and quests over
there you can basically go and uh playing around with them um there's real reward over there with you
know uh some of the you know nft asset or like the the access to the game itself or you know uh some of
some of them even offer token reward uh for for our users um and if you if you are a good player you
can also join the ancient you know like gaming view as well that is you know that used to be our core
focus but now it's one of the important arm of ancient aid to be to be the education layer for uh the
whole ecosystem and if you are a good gamer you can join ancient gaming uh it's creating different
leaderboard on different games and you know you will be also being part of the uh uh the the the
program and you being shared the incentive over there and then you know renovers if you play some
game over there you and you're watching the ads you will all get also get the revenue uh revenue sharing
uh paid by the brand itself uh so there's there's a lot of like incentive we offer um inside of
ancient ecosystem even before tg uh after tg um almost up all the incentive will be you know like
focusing on the ancient stackers and the uh a few uh energy collection on inside passionate ecosystem
um and you know if you are basically a staker or token holder or you know an entity holder uh you will
have different way to interact with our upcoming program um i wouldn't be able to to tell much but
you know it's more like i basically just play the game you know uh it's a gaming chain just play the
game just get feedback um just you know experience it uh experience it and then you know like give us
feedback we need you guys to um on our uh journey of building in the next few years so um you know any
any engagement or any contribution or any feedback from you guys on our game on our product uh would be
super appreciated from the national team all right thank you very much david anything else
yeah and we have a lot of uh new uh gaming unique on 10 gaming experience that are ready to ship to
you guys in the upcoming time uh within this week in particular so hope to see you guys back uh within
the engineering chain all right thank you very much dave and zane so yeah uh they're ready to uh uh
incentivize the true computer computer contributors and then uh pure contributors so be active in the
community and be active be an active player okay so uh they're trying they need your help as well in
terms of uh to game testing and etc etc uh feedback on improvements and etc so uh becoming active in
the community and they start playing games as well all right thank you very much all right so last question
we do have is uh from suman 1034254 what specific market deficiencies or user pain points in the gaming
industry from promoted the inception of an ancient eight and how does the project aim to address these
issues with with its unique solutions yeah um there is two pinpoints that in the whole web free gaming
space is that the first one is that the whole web free gaming space need to grow further and expand
further we are very we are in very early stage of you know web free gaming um we need more game we need
more you know like innovative um high quality gameplay and innovative game economy uh that's
the first pain point and we are here to be being part of that we we ship whatever we have we ship with
our capacity we ship with our you know like all the um all the resource we have um to make the whole
word free gaming bigger um that's the first thing um it's also you know like um equal to what i said
uh previously uh is that you know like we are here not to grow for ourselves but we are here to grow
for the whole gaming space um the second thing here is that um i think there is a lot of like
you know gaming token launch every day i think a lot of there's a lot of um gameplay um ship every day um
but we haven't really figured out what's the best you know like distribution model for web free gaming
nobody say that they have the best you know distribution channel uh or distribution model uh
as of now uh you might see some game you know like launching and they have okay a pretty good um kind of
like a good uh player pool for a certain time but it's not still not you know like sustainable enough
so we are here to basically find the answer for that um by you know like um combining everything in
the whole ecosystem and linking or connecting them together and then finding the best um distribution
channel and distribution model for for our game uh and allied incentive of the player the game
developers and the platform itself which is ancient aid all right thank you very much great speech again
all right zane thank you very much dave anything else yeah and not only do we realize and are currently
trying to solve the existing problems in the web3 gaming uh landscape but we also having the ability
to actually uh tackle the uh existing trend in the market and also have the resource to maintain and
operate the system uh consistently to deliver the ideas and the solutions that we uh told you guys in
the beginning because most of the team is in southeast asia and we also have strong connection not just
only in the gaming industry but also from zen background from the media side for example yeah so uh
the ability to maintain and ship division is uh currently very precise from outside so trust the process and
stay tuned all righty thank you very much thank you very much for answering all these questions dave and
saying you guys all heard it so um i mean these guys are not just a great um uh core team and uh builders
but also the great speaker as well so great speech i love that i love them actually i don't say it to all
it all this all the speakers that i talk to on a race okay this is a true compliment for me uh anyway thank
you very much again zane dave and uh also last question from me it's just for me okay uh it's very it could be a
dumb question but okay so is web3 gaming dead uh i want to zane and dave as i want you guys to answer
each of each of you guys uh zane oh um it's not that
uh it's it's it's like it's like seven years eight years ago ten years ago some people ask if bitcoin
is that um so you know with it takes time to grow and you know trust the process like dev set um we
still very early stage and uh the reason why we're here um bringing uh gaming to web3 bringing the
ownership to the users bringing the ownership for the gamers and deliver the best uh gameplay uh it is
because we trust the future of web3 gaming and we trust the future of you know of gaming with
decentralization um yeah we wouldn't be here today and we wouldn't launch a token if we think the
web3 gaming is that um just you know like ask yourself um if if you think like bitcoin or crypto is
that in you know last 10 years then um you know look at the the journey we have been gone through
in the last 10 years um web3 gaming is still very early stage and uh yeah we're here to grow it further
lfg thank you very much zane we're here to stay we have to grow awesome day yeah uh so let's take
some comparison uh in the last market in the last bull market for example uh in the last market like
people usually said like uh there's a question like what is blockchain and what is crypto in general
but in this market we already see like not that many people uh are asking that question uh again and
again because uh the the fundamental and the importance of blockchain has been already very
familiar with the user already and this market we are mostly talking about new technologies and
application to actually leverage the infrastructure and the benefits of the blockchain themselves
and from the customer side also expecting a lot of uh real integration and actual application that can
deliver these values so uh i strongly believe that it's just only the beginning of the process and
we're here for 20 years 30 years uh in the in the upcoming future so it's not that at all
yes sir thank you very much it's not dead at all yes we do have a long way to go but it's it's a long
process but when it comes to web 2 gaming it took 20 years to grow as well so web 3 is much faster but it
takes more than um not just one month and then uh two two months to develop the triple a games or it could
be better than triple a games out there that already existed out in the current market so uh not into
just the web 3 i'm talking about web 2 but thank you very much david they've been saying again yes it's
here just we are here to stay we're here to build so if you guys want to interested in building with them
um go ahead and reach out to them as well and if you guys are play gaming players if you love playing games
say uh worth checking what's your time checking out in the hna just will start they won't be in the
community you know becoming becoming a great players and contributors that are becoming the ecosystem
all right thank you very much again all right so i guess uh it's time to wrap up and we do have a
selected racket luck is your winners already so we will be announcing later on after the cma so stay
tuned for that as well and also make sure to follow dave zane and then the hna official x accounts
and then also do not forget to follow or actually follow me too anyway follow get i have official
accounts and as well as again don't add over accounts if you haven't if you don't have an
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enterprises as well so make sure to check it out to all the information and all the events as well
okay thank you very much all right okay um i guess uh time to wrap it up up dave and zane before i
let you go uh is there anything else that you want to share with our audience you have covered a lot but
is there anything any last words saying let's go yeah for sure uh thanks a lot gate for organizing this
very happy to engage with a gate community uh today um yeah stay tuned for our upcoming uh games it
will be very exciting um and then you know uh if you are uh just here for the first time and
heard you first heard about action 8 we would love to host you in the action 8 community and uh don't
um don't be shy to message to our team uh we have dave we have justin here we have ronald here um who
can you know basically uh have you to onboard the action ecosystem if you are new uh if you are a game
studio uh and want to launch with i want to be with us um talk to it as well uh we are uh welcoming more
and more studio to the action ecosystem uh so yeah um let us know if you guys have any other questions
and yeah i see you around in the action 8 discord
all right thank you dave and if you have uh if you haven't had the chance to interact with the
engine a chain uh hit your notification button on the engine a uh twitter and then gonna see you this
week all right let's go thank you very much all right so i guess uh all right we have time to let
you all go thank you very much for supporting this ama again once again all the listeners and audiences
on the x and also gay live room thank you very much hope you guys have received some sort of a
airdrops on the gay live room and also we will be announcing again as already mentioned so i said
again not future winners if you guys support active supporters you might be selected all right so good
luck with that and thank and actually congratulations for the winners uh for these um little campaigns
that were right before uh free space we already announced that as well so make sure to check out the
theme poster as well all right so i guess uh it's time to let you guys go uh we have a lot of events
going on on the outside not just to get hna also the entire market so you think the ethereum etf spot
etf just got approved one in the us so make sure to check it out as well and but always always stay
safe and then always invest what you can afford to lose and invest uh responsibly all right so i will
see you guys in the next ama and dave thank you very much zane i hope you guys have a wonderful day
and a wonderful future wonderful uh endeavors for asia as well all right we're looking forward to see it
see you and talk to you on the next ama in the future all right so thank you very much again
and i will see you in the next ama peace out
