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Recorded: May 5, 2023
Welcome, welcome folks. Hi fighters gang, hi Shamba. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening.
making you inviting you over to be speakers.
Shamba, I'm just inviting you to full host.
and sunny we got you to speak this time, we need to listen to you.
Welcome everybody folks, please accept the invites and if I can request you to share the spirit.
Let's get some people in here.
Awesome, I see Shamba as well as Fighters Gang. All of you have retweeted the space. I appreciate that. Thank you so much.
Thanks for accepting the co-host in white, Shampa.
I am good. I am good at that. That's good. How is the day for you, sir? Obviously for you so far. It's good. Good. So far. The show is going good. Just had the space. So yeah.
How's the day going for you? Is it morning in your age? I just came back from the days after noon. It is about 2.30 in the afternoon. I just came back from a legal meeting. Got some legal stuff happening. And I tell you, lawyers are different breeders.
together. I got some serious advice for you my friends. Never change your lawyers or your doctors and never offer them to others. Yeah, you got to keep them close to your heart. Yeah. Okay. So having good lawyers is really important for sure. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
That is so true. But yeah, thanks picking up for you, Shamba in the Goodcoin world.
contributions. How are things for you? Yeah, things are doing good. I think we're starting to pick up some more people or more supporters inside. Something that's really nice. Yeah, and I think who's
see more people donate since like it's getting closer and closer to the end. I think there are more people who are donating even though and also there might be some time on the weekend as well. I think Gidcoin they said that the
weekend is predicted to happen to have less gas fees or gas fees to drop so I think there are more people donating into projects over the coming days as it's good coin comes to a near
Awesome, love that, love that. You know, one of the things that's really
You know pressing for the space is I was on this conversation called yesterday with the ecological benefits framework and that's coming together under the umbrella of BXC. That's that's an initiative which is also being led by low labs and we were just you know jamming on the space
case in terms of how do we really, when we talk about ReFi, how do we qualify that, what does it really mean and there are such different inputs and there were such valuable but very contextual specific
And some of us had the thought process around the technology being the real key part of what is RE-FI, whereas others bought in the fact that RE-FI, essentially regenerative finance is essentially building on
One minute, one.
Yeah, is essentially building on Eleanor's Austrian work and you know work that that's been happening earlier. So really good perspectives out there and I just wanted to throw it to the group shamba and you know in terms of
What does Rifa mean for you? I mean what are you seeing Rifa and more importantly how do you explain it to people you know who are in your sphere of things who may necessarily not be. Web 3 savvy. Just curious.
So for me, I think the way I would define RIFI is quite tricky, but I see it as a way to regenerate the Earth, make more positive impact on the Earth, and as well as
some the financial aspect to it, right? The finance aspect to it. And I think, yeah, the way I see it in terms of, I've seen more of the point of view of regenerative agriculture. To me, that's really where
I kind of feel like that's really really important because I haven't been to Africa, you know, last year. I saw the need for that regenerative agriculture, the education aspect as well. Yeah, it's absolutely
necessary. And so that's how I would say, that's how we describe, we fly in terms of, you know, the tools to be able to regenerate the earth, make the soil more healthy, you know, have more
years, do regenerative practices that are known to work, cover crop, diversity in your field, all these, all the regenerative practices that are principles, I think that
But that is one aspect. And then the other aspect is the finance aspect of it. The, you know, being able to access financial tools, whether it be insurance, for example, with pragmatic insurance. And so, yeah, that's the aspect of finance to it.
This will empower farmers not just from a, you know, education aspect of it, which is really really important especially for farmers who don't have internet for example. And, you know, this, you know, this, you know, it's not, you know, it's not practicing
So for them, education is crucial, it's crucial. And then the finance aspect of it as well is something that is great and for these particular farmers who are smallholder farmers. So I guess that's how I would kind of see it in that regard.
That makes sense but yeah, no, I know you completely I so identify with a lot of those things in fact, you know that brings up this interesting nuance for me because in a lot of agricultural projects which are essentially talking or leveraging carbon credits or ecosystem credits, you know there is a lot of time
The project needs to stand on its own. So a project is not set up to harvest carbon credits. Carbon credits are just an additional revenue stream. And the project is set up to be a commercial viable enterprise with the carbon credits providing that extra income stream to the farmers.
essentially brings me to this interesting nuance is that in that version of ReFi it is not regenerative agriculture that we are practicing right because to me in my mind regenerative agriculture is literally around you know having like you said multiple crops
the same land, cycling through those different things that you plant and grow on your land. And it's not about just scale and one type of croc and you crop and using any sort of how would I say interventions to ensure a healthy crop. So all of those things necessarily come into
to commercial agriculture and wouldn't necessarily sit in regenerative agriculture. But they definitely have the carbon credits that might be generated or ecosystem credits that might be generated and might be an alternate revenue stream on that. And frankly, that's the kind of projects that we are seeing out here in India because obviously commercial
So important for farmer's lives. And I'm just curious, you know, what sort of projects do you see out out there in Africa? I mean, are they similar or are they very much into that regenerative agriculture and mindset in terms of, you know, not just having any commercial farming, but regenerative farming? Just curious.
I think it's actually similar to India. There are some farmers in Kenya is much much better in terms of the Gennadir Agriculture because farmers are already practicing these these are your culture practices. Kennedy and Sam they've actually been visiting farms and they definitely have noticed that they're very
and they've been interviewed with farmers and stuff like that. And some of the farmers they visit, they're doing couple crops, they're doing crop rotation, they're doing multi crops. And so I think that aspect is really good. And I think because Kenya, there's a lot of the more
It's not a penetration, but like one is after done, right? And I wanted the village and I keep you know everyone is planning the same thing. You go to one village, they're planting exactly the same thing. You see and maybe in another area that's so far away, they're planning something different.
And so year after year they plan the same thing, they plan the same thing. And so nothing, they even talk about like, you know, there's something that eats the crops when they're starting to grow, for example, right? And that could be, you know, disease on the ground because they've been playing the same thing over and over again, where they actually change it.
to a different crop, then maybe those diseases on the ground may not be able to eat a new crop that is there now. And then eventually they would die off. And so for those communities, I think what is essentially more is the education aspect is for sure the biggest thing because if we can
If you have more education aspect or you're going to call to practice and stuff, they will also be able to make more out of their land and avoid some of the crops, actually completely going for or being destroyed by the diseases and what have you.
So that's like the other aspect of it. But yeah, I think the carbon credit you're right, like the carbon credit are just an additional, additional just income to be honest. And I think also as well, like it takes a while for carbon credit
that you know one or two years actually to see some sort of income. So if you were able to force like not force but get a farmer to change the way that they do you know they have coached a participant talk about but then they don't see immediate you know income then
Yeah, then there has to be more to it. There has to be, you know, things that actually the yield has improved, you know what I mean. And also as well, the financial services as well, I think is going to be a very important aspect to it. Things like, you know, flood insurance, things like, you know, dry insurance. And even
potentially micro loans, right? Because if a farmer is generating carbon credits, then for them to be able to access some sort of micro loans, $100, $500, I think that's actually might be something that would encourage their farmer to continue
with the regenerative agriculture practices they're doing. Or, you know, over the long term, at least until they start seeing some sort of, you know, small income from the carbon credits, for example. But really, the soil goal is to improve the farmer, land, the soil, improve, you know, increase
they are the other thing as well. For communities in the villages, for example, when it's us running communities there, they farm to live on. They don't farm to access sell. That's the
biggest thing. So they're farming to actually support themselves, you know, during the the the the crops that they grew, they were able to eat it, you know, and so on and so on. But over the first four years, you know, and for example, in South Sudan,
people farm and then floods happen. You do massive floods. And so the crops have been destroyed and I was actually hearing this year that what has changed this year farmers has actually instead of farming in their own area they go
to this other area where they are farming, which is a bit, but it doesn't actually flood, it's like a kind of uphill area. So I think there is a lot more engagement now with farmers. And the reason why people are able to live off, even though the floods have been destroyed,
a lot of communities that have been able to sell their cows, for example, and that's how they've been able to live over the last couple of years or three years with the flooding situation. So yeah, definitely there's a lot of changes and a lot of challenges.
But adaptation is crucial to be able to adopt to some of these climatic conditions that are happening. I think it's important. And you look at Kenya, Kenya and Sarsadan are neighboring countries. While Sarsadan was flooded, Kenya was having a drought.
of the worst drought they've had. And these are neighboring countries. And you think like how can that actually happen? Like how can one country, you know, the northern part of Kenya be, be drought and South Sudan is flooded. And so
This kind of indicates the climate risks that are happening and the climate changes that are happening in the climate. But it also does make it crucial for government to work together because all these
countries, internationally-spirited development countries, we have pipelines of oil, pipeline of oil going here, but maybe we also need to consider a pipeline of water where you have a community or a country that is flooded. Why not take that excess water to communities
where they have the experiencing drought. And that water can be used for animals, can be used for normal crops use.
So I think there's definitely more cooperation that's much, much needed and more activities like that and engagement on a international level of, or neighboring countries level cooperation. Yep, yep, here you and you know, a couple of things really jumped
out for me from all of this beautiful share that you have just done. One of course is that REFI can actually be a huge impact multiplier in terms of just because by doing the digital measurement reporting and verification suddenly
there is a lot of data which is available around the farmer, around the practices, around the land, around the weather and so on and so forth. And they can be very targeted interventions aimed specifically for certain situations. So, parametric insurance is a great, great example of this, right. And then in terms
of just the fact that they can be such good, how would I say, you know, lend itself to good intervention by governments in terms of, so that, you know, there's the money, the subsidy, the benefits don't keep going to the same folks again and again, right? It's like they spread out to all the people who need to get it.
So definitely, Re-5, that literally jumped out at me. In terms of this water, linkages, this is something that has been discussed here in India also, in terms of linking rivers. So there's this big project that the government of India has in terms of linking
the major rivers across India and then transporting water to various parts of India through canals. So rather than pipes, you want to dig these big, the pitches which are canals and transport these water because we also have floods and there are certain set of rivers in India which
year on year right Brahma potra for example floods year on year which also affects Bangladesh right Ganga also has you know these these kind of changes which happen so you know that is something however one of the big challenges of pushback to such a project which is linking rivers has again been from the environmentalist
and from people who are worried about changing the character of entire bio-regions, right? And I think that's a very valid concern. And so, you know, that's something that definitely raises a flag because frankly speaking, I seriously doubt there's any impact study that can really capture all the nuances of what
bringing water to a desert could do. I mean it will definitely help a certain set of people, certain set of crops but at the same time it will change the character that nature of that biosphere completely forever. So that's something that I've always struggled with personally and maybe you have some thoughts on that.
But lastly, there's this point about that I really want to touch upon here and this is something that I would love to know from you. In terms of these different types of credits, what are you seeing in Africa? Is it only carbon credits that are happening for farmers? Are there any
water credits, what are the types of ecosystem credits are you seeing. So yeah, that's, those, you know, I'd love to know about those two things. One about, you know, linking these rivers or moving water through pipes, you know, and what kind of pushback or support do you have in Africa for that? And number two, what are the types of ecosystem credits are you seeing there?
So the first question, at the moment there isn't much discussion about moving the water through pipes, but to me there's actually much, much, much more idea because I mean, Newkirk Kenya for example, they actually introduced a law which, which, which lifts the band of
GMO as a result of the flooding, right? But I think as a community, as my family, for example, they live in the community that is affected by flooding, it's pretty bad. You know, you talk to a kid and I was talking to one of my cousins and he was saying me that when the flooding comes, the water comes.
come up to his neck, going to school every day. And I think that's the problem, right? And these water, you have kids that sometimes get snagged by it on them. And then the hospitals, they're inaccessible because it's flooded, right? And these communities are just
forced to basically just stay at home. And so that's the problem I see and the crops get destroyed. And so they're going hungry, the crops have been destroyed, their homes have been because their homes are not made of bricks or whatever you, they're made of mud. And so when mud hits water, it just
solves and it just breaks down. I feel like I'm really empathetic to these communities and I feel like taking some of these water and they could also do this by building dams as well. dams could actually bring down the
the excess water a little bit. But then what I'm saying is like more like the neighboring country also, the animals are dying right? In fact in Kenya they were giving out selling animals so little, so like a dollar or something like so little
because there was no water in another part of Kenya. And so if even if you bring these water on a pipe and just make it available for farmers or for not even farmers but for the animals and cows and goats and what have you, I think
that would make it more just much better living condition not just for the person who is affected by flooding but also for the person who has animals and a farmer for example right so I feel like that's where those pipeline could work but you're right though
I think we have not seen that on a large scale or even a small scale. I think there need to be some sort of study done on this and to kind of see whether it is viable and maybe even do it temporarily, maybe even just one season or two seasons and see if it is actually
what is the risk, what is the ecosystem, because you're going to have some risks. And sometimes you're right, the dangers are not actually highlighted. You look at deep in space X-recent launch, in Boko Chica, in America. People selling
separated that success, but there's actually a lot of nature, wildlife, damage, that space actually is doing in that area, because it's like a new protected area where there's some very
birds that are, that few of them are left, you know. And so sometimes I feel like we can overlook the natural disturbance and natural damage to the environment by the success of some of these big things that are happening.
On the other question, yes, so Kenya right now carbon is basically the biggest use. There have been multiple lot of projects that have happened in the past that have mainly targeted towards carbon. The water stuff, they would not see that yet.
at all. And so hopefully in the new future that is something that we actually look at and there will be more projects that are doing that. You're right in terms of data for farmers, absolutely. To be able to provide the data to farmers, how the farmers doing, to be
able to for them for the farmer to have some sort of application that they can use on a daily basis. I think that's really, really important and that's what's here and there's really working on to be able to develop something that farmers can use on a daily basis to look at the changes that happening in their farm on a daily basis. And I think that's going to be really, really interesting because that
will also keep the farmers engaged that will keep the you know even though at the immediate end there will not be there may not be immediate you know financial benefit to the farmer but if they if we can give them data if we can give them you know financial services like insurance and link them up to financial services then I think
Then you can kind of see the ecosystem building out a little bit more into a much stronger engagement for the farmer and usefulness for the farmer particularly. Absolutely. This is just a parcel for Thottin, my mind and I've already
Specifically around farmers, there's in India, for example, there's a bunch of, I would say, content.
providers which are servicing farmers now and these people would be on WhatsApp groups. These people around YouTube channels, these people around these private networks wherein they are apps maybe on which farmers are being given this information around sewing, around weather, around crop prices and so on and so forth.
And a lot of times these farmers are putting all of their data are engaging with these apps and these information and knowledge without realizing the amount of value that they are providing to these up the ecosystem. And I think for sure there's definitely a case to be made for a decentralized
you know maybe a decentralized type of farming information network right where a lot of farmers who can trust each other to be exchanging the right information because that you know why do farmers trust this one YouTube guy or WhatsApp group because you know they believe they are getting the right
information and that could be around insurance policies, it could be around what's the latest market price for a particular produce and so on and so forth. And there's definitely a case to be made there for an ecosystem for a Web 3 ecosystem to come up to enable these farmers to monetize all of their effort and their attention also.
So that's definitely missing in India and I think globally across the world because just having a farmer engage on a Web2 app, just entering data, that's like for a Web3 thought process that's leaving a lot on the table. So yeah, all of what you said just sparked off all of those things in my mind. But yeah, thank you so much for sharing.
No worries, I'm Pinsave. Welcome, welcome.
Hello guys, I'm just like kind of woke up and I'm like I'm really excited for your conversation about carbon.
Thanks so much, Pinsay for coming in here. Yeah, so, but you know, just to continue on that point, Shambha, just to understand other so.
Apart from carbon credits and maybe water credits, are you seeing any other type of credits happening out there? Soil credits for example?
Not at the moment to be honest. I have not seen any soil credits, been water credits so far. I think there's, I don't know, like in the Hines, surely for example, right? There is some, there is some
Water rights, for example, that farmers have water rights, water rights can be more than sold kind of thing. Which is, I think they're a little bit different to the water, the water clearly to be honest in that respect.
Yeah, I think the industry is still small at the moment. But the government is also looking at supporting the carbon credit industry as a whole. And so the government is definitely behind it. And I think because part of it, because
That financial aspect of it, but yeah, there's definitely a lot more that needs to be done and a lot a lot of uncapped potential for sure for sure. What is it like in India? What is the in terms of are you guys seeing any
some of the things we mentioned as in like water cradilettes and soil cradilettes and things like that is that something that is I got seen in India and what is it an interest as well for the farmers and yeah is this going to provide farmers and you know additional
I mean, I've heard about water credits. I've not spent too much time in analyzing what they reflect at the back of it and there are different versions of that. But I know for sure that are happening.
of kind of ask you sure and of course you'll recognize the name has been working on that space in terms of soil credits. I'm not too sure. I don't think I've come across any project which does that. There's definitely carbon credits which come in various flavors. There's of course nature based solutions. There is cook stove projects.
There has been conversations and again not necessarily only in their projects, but conversations around folks who are looking at adding SDG data points to carbon credits. So that essentially showing that you just don't have a carbon credit, but that also qualifies in terms of okay.
How did it help the farmer? What is the benefit that it, how did it impact sustainability at that point where it was generated? That's an interesting play that I really like personally in terms of how you could literally have a qualitative approach to the carbon market rather than just having a commodity approach.
Okay, okay, that's really interesting. In the last grant and we're also continuing as well. Good point, Grant. We have been doing some testing of soil baseline above ground and below ground in Kenya and still
an ongoing work but yeah it will be quite interesting to see what sort of used Jamba team is going to do with it. I'm not really well versed in it but I think it will be really interesting to see what yeah to see the results for those things but yeah I think it will be really exciting.
Awesome folks. Utkarsh fighters signing. I'm just again rescinding you invites. If you feel up to it, you feel free to jump on stage and share. Also request you to just quickly re-peak the room once.
of the half-hour mark. Let's just get more folks in here. Let's get them on to Gitcoin radio. Let's keep it moving as Jimmy says. And yeah, right now there's just an ongoing conversation between Shambhai and myself, just exchanging notes on what
happening in our parts of the world in our ecosystems. And, yeah, Shamba, here's another one for you in terms of, you know, farmers onboarding experience, right? Have you done any IRL activation and not the Gitcoin coordination types?
But just in general, you know, activating farmers, onboarding them to Web 3 and in terms of, you know, the barriers out there, what do you see? Are there like physical barriers, meaning not having a smartphone or are there like, you know, UI UX barriers or are there like security barriers?
What do you see? So at the moment, this is sort of semi public, I think. But yeah, Shambha is working on a for the revised solution up. Yeah, I think it's on a great bit, actually. But yeah, it's the work.
working on a research solution app and we've been on board in farmers at the moment in Kenya and those are going to some of the pilots and stuff like that. So yeah, this is going to be really interesting. One term of the challenges is Internet connectivity challenge. So, you know, we have project
developers are able to sign up, you know, farmers instead of the farm actually doing them by themselves because some farmers don't have smartphones and so that's going to, that's been one of the challenges. For Siamba some of the other challenges we try to raise some capital
So that we can accelerate the development of some of the stuff that ShiaM is doing. And so that's those two challenges that are massive challenges, I think. But overall, I think-- and this is-- GidCon has been really, really awesome. But overall, yeah.
the onboarding of farmers onto the Shambler Refi solution application. I think that's something that Shambler is doing on the ground and being able to onboard users and being able to make the experience smoother and
and things like that. So, yeah, we're still in early stage. You know, I don't know how many people have been, how many families have been onboarded, but it's probably about a dozen families so far. So, yeah, we're still working on that. And now,
Yeah, I think once we have kind of fully onboard a lot more farmers, I think we'll be able to kind of share it on the publicly. You know, yeah, what Shemba is doing in that regard, but yeah, that's one of the things that Shemba is definitely doing at the moment.
In fact, you know, this is project that I keep referring to and this is based in one of the states in India and Maharashtra, wherein, you know, individuals are being onboarded.
on to Web 3 and digital IDs in order to reduce their friction around KVIC. So there's definitely, I see a lot of value and a lot of good work being done there.
Yeah, and in terms of, you know, just the UI UX or the language, I'm assuming that when you're onboarding all of these people, these are in the local language. I mean, how what's what's the UI UX like?
So yeah, it's actually the the it's a moment I believe is English, but there is someone who you know will call it a developer project developer who's able to actually
go and assist the farmers and get some information from the farmers and stuff like that. But at the moment, essentially what it is also as well is, yeah, it's not really Web 3, so that's the thing, it's not Web 3,
It's actually just because the web 3 stuff is often on the background really the web 3 stuff you don't know the farmers you don't see that and so because the experience of bringing someone onto the platform is much much
with the Web 3, I think it's much harder, but so if you can develop something that the Web 3 is there, but you're not actually the farmer doesn't need to actually use it or it's on the background of it, then I think we'll have a really strong user experience with the farmer.
Love that, love that. Pinsave, what's happening in your body? How's the git going around going for you?
I mean, like everything is like everything is alright, but it's just like it's very confusing that we've got like 20 donations during like the first two, maybe three days and now there's nothing. Am I doing something wrong? Like, and there's nobody to ask like a question like that.
guys, what's happening? Like, is it my fault? Yeah, and it's just very confusing. And to be honest, like, I cannot wait for the next rounds. Like, I'm pretty sure it would be much smoother. And there will be like the L2 kind of chain. Yeah.
something like this. Yeah. Awesome. Thanks for sharing. Thanks for sharing. We also have Ayurveca in the house. Welcome Ayurveca. Can I just ask everybody to again quickly just to repeat the room once?
Thank you so much. Also just send an invite to Ioveca to come on stage if you feel up to it, please feel free to do that. And you know for me this this round has been
Yeah, for me, the sound has been quite
Oh, so I got a message from SolarPak Maxi that he is unable to join.
Oh my man, I think he just jumped off he might join again. But yeah.
cool folks. Just want to quick show of hands out here as to how many of our folks are here. I mean as such in here because I just realized a couple of folks have just sort of stepped out. Yeah awesome. Pinsave. Thanks so much. You know who can hear me because
So that is good right because yeah yesterday was weird I was on the space and apparently I was not on the space right so yeah
it can get weird.
So I'm going to use this time to talk a little bit about what's happening in India around climate and around blockchain and crypto. A couple of interesting facets and learnings that
we also have from the Greenfield festival. So please allow me to share all of that. So for one, in the Greenfield festival, what we saw was this huge participation of women coders and that was such a huge surprise because frankly,
the general tendency for us is to think about, hmm, you know, these are like, you know, you're doing a hackathon, you're just going to get these youngsters, these young guys, we just want to hang out and just, you know, cool. But we were quite surprised with the fact that we had this very
strong focused group of girls from various colleges across India who are really interested in the space. So for us, for me personally also that's like a huge signal that there is, especially, a refi should
naturally cultivate this relationship with women coders because we probably might just be appealing a lot more to them and our culture is very much more suited as opposite, quite opposite to the defy culture of a lot of rara and a lot of young
So in that sense, I think ReFi really stands out as this warm welcoming space for women coders. That's one thing that really stood out. The other bit that really stood out for me from the Greenville Festival as well as the ReFi Summit was that a lot of corporations, a lot of
of businesses are also keen to understand this, you know, what's happening in this space, but are not yet ready to commit. And, you know, there's a clear sort of hesitation in terms of putting money because there's no regulatory requirement for it. So, to me that
that is a clear message that there needs to be this mix of a regulatory push along with an education pool in order to really get the market going. So that's something that's just a learning that I've had. I see CM Buga here, CM Buga feel free to
Step on stage and just share your thoughts in terms of you know how the current round is going with you. I've just sent you a speaker in white We are gonna be in the last sort of 15 minutes of the space It's minus low one compared to the rest of the week and that's okay. It's a it's a weekend. It's Friday people are just sort of signing off
And I am in fact also about to embark on a holiday. So I will not be doing any spaces for the next two days and you'll have other folks out here in this space holding it for me or you know holding it for themselves on their handles. But yeah, this is
been fun you know this is Gidcoin radio has definitely you know been a landmark in Gidcoin history in just the coordination and the sheer coordination of it and a huge shout out to all the folks who have been doing this it's been a lot of fun. I would love to have somebody to jam with and I would welcome
you know, folks stepping up on stage. If they have any questions, any thoughts, just want to share about what's happening with their particular grant or their work would love to know more. Just sending out a bunch of invites and I'm also retweeting the space and I would encourage you to do that too.
Well folks, it's a quiet time.
Oh CM Buga replied that he's on a PC, he's unable to speak. I completely understand buddy. Nobody's there. Definitely want to use this opportunity to chat a little bit on ReFi by South. And you know for all of these five days, I really haven't discussed too much about ReFi by South.
We saw this as an initiative by Lowalabs. Lowalabs for the folks who do not know. We are a marketing and comms agency for better world blockchains. We have been working with region since 2017 since origin. There's a long history of trust of putting out good market activation.
of just doing socials and building market with region along the journey Dave who started this organization lower labs realized the gap in the market in terms of you know this this need for people who would want to work with agencies who are not just going after
defined so to speak and that's how lower labs came into existence. Last year it's been like one and a half years since the company has been in existence. Lower L O A actually stands for laws of attraction. So at lower labs over the last couple of months we've been very busy doing activations and go to market and support
voting businesses like Solid World Dow, Neutral, we also you know been working we've been having working with Mercycore Ventures and of course this region foundation and region network that we've been working with. So a lot of good I would say businesses out there
and just helping them go to market scale and just build community. Apart from that, LoLabs also runs validator notes for about 9 chains in the Cosmos ecosystem. And that's again, the way we look at it is again a way to actually build community because
governance, which is like a crucial aspect of the value data or running a value data node is something that's not really spoken about too much. And at LoaLabs, we have made a specific focus to really work on that. To that end, we also put out some public goods. We've created a LoaN node toolkit, which is essentially for validators.
which helps them track the how's the node doing, get notifications around various governance proposals into the Slack and so on and so forth. So just making the life of a validator easier and a public good at that. Apart from that, LoLabs is also been working internally on building a product studio and that is again in his
response to the market really wanting to have this you know a lot of projects wanting to do a lot of initiatives or work but not really having the bandwidth to do that and low labs has found some good initial traction in having these conversations and just you know starting up this work.
That is like the large canvas of lower laps and one part of that canvas is also referred by south. Refa by south started out as a series of Twitter spaces. We did a bunch of those last year in March. We invited a lot of folks from the global north to come and talk about what is Refa, how to get a job in Refa.
you know how to do a start up in re-fi, how to really educate oneself in re-fi and a bunch of those you know led to a large engagement with the community. We also realized that all of this was in English and that was not helping the cause. So then we worked in the second sort of pivot
In our favorite we worked with a bunch of folks and enabled them as Reefi ambassadors. We incentivized them to do Twitter spaces, do roundups and in general talk about Reefi in their country, in their language. So we did a bunch of those across Kenya, across Uganda, across India, Singapore,
And we had some amazing success out there. In fact, a couple of them, Aida for example, has gone on to start up a refined node and is very well on her journey to become a leading voice for the refined space in her part of the world.
We also have then since then realize that what we've been doing is helping these influences or these people, these ReFi ambassadors find their voice but we also need to help them onboard the Web 3 businesses.
A lot of times there are projects, there are impact projects which may be doing great work, but they really don't have the where with all to move on to Web 3. And so that's a gap that we want to address with this Bitcoin round. We want to work closely doing workshops with the specific targeted startups.
who are in the impact space not necessarily Web 3 but who are looking to monetize their impact and you want to help them navigate the Refi space, identify what's the best model for me, build up those collaborations in order to prepare a product, identify
the potential customers could be, you know, if necessary, develop the product, develop a go-to-market strategy and then go to market, right? So that entire journey is what you want to do with certain selected projects and this is an open invitation if you have any references, any thoughts
suggestions on who these potential projects could be. We have a bunch of those we are speaking to but you always welcome more inputs from such folks, from folks like yourselves in the community. You would love to engage with such projects and develop a playbook. You know a playbook where if there's a project in Tanzania, in India,
in South Sudan for that matter and they want to go to ReFi, they want to onboard Web 3, they want to leverage digital measurement reporting and verification. Well, what do they do? How do they do that? And they may be a successful business in the Web 2 space but coming out
Web 3 could be a very different paradigm. And so we want to work with them and help them navigate that and build businesses in the ReFi space in the Web 3 space. That's the objective for ReFi by South, this current get coin round. I would love your support. I would encourage you to just go to the ReFi by South.
grant and contribute. Every bit would help. Thank you so much there. I would welcome, we are in the last 10 minutes. I would welcome folks to just jump in and talk about their work or their project. If they are up to it, just sending out a bunch of speaker and whites again to folks if they are interested to come on stage and speak.
Bolotoya, welcome to the space. Let's just do one more repeat of the space.
And then I will also be adding the next space in the Jambotron which solar punk maxi will be starting up. So I'm just pulling that up. Thank you for your patience. Okay, not this.
GMGM per now. GMGM, fire is getting out of you. I wanted to ask enough this quickly. You said that you guys are doing some work with Web2 projects and how to onboard them onto Web3.
which is amazing. I was also wondering, do you guys not do any work in regards to existing Web2 that also want to learn about Web3? An example is
You know like World Bank for example or like for example The World Economic Forum or some of these larger institutions Intergovernment bodies that just want to kind of learn about the ecosystem of work three or refile
particularly if I. Yeah, because I think that would be that would go in line with what you guys are currently doing. And also would also benefit some of the Web 3 projects and Web 2 Web 3 5 projects. Yeah, to be able to
kind of have a communication aspect to some of, because they do a lot of publication and things like that. They can, they may be also doing like, you know, studies and case studies, which they can, yeah, which,
Absolutely. I could actually have great pilots and stuff like that in line and with these to be studied and stuff like that and verified and monitored. Yeah, I think that would be really really nice. Absolutely. No, thanks. Thanks for the question. And yes, low lapses.
is engaged heavily in such initiatives. However, not at the refurbised south level, low labs is currently working as part of BXC and is closely involved with a bunch of such working groups. So the ecological benefits framework, the working group which I read to this space yesterday, is
In fact, low laps is a crucial player in just putting that working group together and running it. And within that working group and a bunch of others, there's folks from the World Bank, there's folks from GBBC, there's folks from other such international agencies wherein we bring
We bring them into these working groups around various, uh, Refi language around, you know, applications around really the ground realities of what needs to happen. Right. So that's and if that's something I've introduced to you, you should definitely go look up PXE and also be part of the ecological benefits.
framework, they incidentally they also have a grant up here on Gitcoin and Oz as well as Monty and Mariana, they're all involved heavily in that. So yeah, thanks, thanks for the question, but absolutely not happening at RIFI by South level but happening at the BXC lower labs BXC level.
Thank you, thank you so much.
Jim, how are you guys? I hope that we are still alive and fighting it out waiting for the contributors. Now this hype in gas space hitting so much.
And you know, I've checked the gas fees around five minutes ago and it was so high, 70 as I can remember it. I hope that in this weekend
It goes down and maybe we can some more donation to the project.
And but I find we find the Geetcoin better round is an amazing experience to actually
to engage more with the community.
So we're still doing it, we're still doing it and we love it.
And how about you? Do you find this Bitcoin better and an amazing, an amazing, actually, period of time to engage more with the community? I find it amazing, by the way.
Absolutely, no question about it, right? The number of friends, the number of projects, the number of insights that we've had over this last 10 days is insane. No question about it, right? And that could be just learning about
So for example yesterday we were talking about NFTs strategies. Today we have, some of my myself, we have exchanged a ton of information around what's happening on the ground. For example, at Africa or in India and that just
So for me it's very valuable just to be part of these conversations just to be in the same rooms as some amazing people. I see we have Paula out here Paula a huge honor to you. Oh yeah.
symbiotica absolutely. You would love to have your blog up there in case you're interested. I sent you a speaker in white. Yeah, but just very quickly, you know, as we are coming to the end of the space and, you know, in some time, solar punk Maxi, Utkars will start up his space, which I've pinned on to the jump or drawn.
Very quickly, we are in the Gitcoin radio. This has been a crazy, crazy 9 days so far. We have had a 24 by 7 radio go on. We have had multiple projects that we have engaged with. A bunch of folks we have made friends with.
And I just want to give a huge shout out to all the good folks. We have Jimmy in the room Jimmy my man. Welcome. Welcome to the space. I just sent you a speaker in white Jimmy has come here kindly to take us to the next level to take us to the next room also how you beat Jimmy my friend give me a sign
love that. But yeah, just coming specifically back in the room as we are just sort of coming to close of the hour. I just want to thank each one of you for having given me your time and your attention. Especially, as we call it, these are the death hours. It's probably the slowest part of
of the GITCO in radio where the US is sleeping, Europe is just sort of again waking up, has woken up and is just getting off their morning to look at what else could we possibly look at. India is sizzling in its heat.
Obviously, you know, things are slow, but we are all here. It's been a great session in exchanging these notes between India and Africa, talking about these various possibilities. So yeah, love that. You also have a Karsh here. Is that you from the solar punk guild handle? Give me a sign, buddy.
No one is there I think
Okay, Shamba any any closing words as we come to the close of the space. Is the Mumbai you with the oh sorry sorry sorry sorry
Go ahead. No, not thank you. Thank you. No, not not not match. Just keep building stuff and yeah, hopefully in the weekend, the fees will go down. So hopefully we can do some supporting as well.
I haven't actually supported the education around yet, so I'm looking forward to the supportive education around and yeah, so I'm really looking forward to that. But yeah, let's just keep building and let's just keep engaging in the community and participating in the community.
Thanks, thanks Shamba, fight this game. Yeah, I just want to know is it and I haven't experienced I visit Mumbai one time around 10 years ago to visit a friend in actually switch, fleeced the change their airplane to go
go to one of my friends and visit him in Bangalore. And I have bad experience there. You know, when I arrive to international airport, I have to go from international airport to local airport with a taxi.
And you have to turn around the city together not city. You know, it takes a time to go there, but there was skating me up so badly. It was so humid. There were a lot of mosquitoes around the taxi. The taxi doesn't have AC. Oh, well, it was so hard actually.
Yeah, things have improved, things have improved since then. Bangalore Airport is definitely much better. In fact, Bangalore Airport coincidentally, I'm aware of it, is Bangalore Airport has been heavily investing into renewables, has been investing into just addressing
using the emissions, they actually have calculated there and you know tracking the SDGs, certain specific SDGs, apparently they recycle all the water that they use. So yes, huge improvement out there, mosquitoes well, yeah,
still around but yeah it's and the heat yes the heat is still very much killing no question about that in fact Bombay right now is also equally extremely hot so so yeah that but I'm sorry you had a bad experience but I can tell you things are much better I would love to have you back here to share about you know
what's really happening here. But yeah, thanks so much for sharing that. - Thank you. - Vinciv, any? - But anyway, I have a lot of good memories from that travel, that journey. And after I visit Bangalore, I go to
Goa for the beaches and was so amazing and after that go to the capital and I have a great memory from that and Indian foods was
amazing a lot of cultures, a lot of great things actually. I suggest everyone to one day, one month, one time go and see this amazing country.
Absolutely. Thanks so much for sharing that fight this gang. And if you haven't come to India, just to let you know you're missing one-sixth of humanity. Right? So we are, we have just recently taken over the
that mantle from China and it's not something that one needs to be proud of but considering our demographic that's something we can definitely leverage. We can build on in terms of just a better future for everybody.
Utkarsh is having a little challenge trying and he's making a new space. So we just have to be patient out here as we are waiting for him to start up his journey, his session for the get coin radio. I'm just curious guys.
I see most of the folks out here would be having their projects and I'm curious. I'm just sending out a bunch of invites again for folks to speak because it definitely would love to have your thoughts on this space.
I'm very curious to know how things are going for others, right? In terms of their work, their projects, I haven't spoken to Paula in a long time. So yeah, I would love the others also to come on. Just give me a minute while I will just check what's happening at Earth's Cursions end, hold on, and just on my comp
Actually I think the space is started.
and we can actually move to that space. I checked that and started.
Is the person behind Shabar, are you Kennedy?
or is it attacked? No, that's attacked. Okay. I won't see it's working.
I believe it's up. I'm just asking for the link to share it in the Jammu Tron.
I'm also trying to get it directly.
I don't think it's on. I don't think it's on.
I can see some listener in their space.
Just send a message.
Maybe you're wrong in that space but I check that and drop some blood. Absolutely. Let's check it again. Let's check it again. Yeah, let's check it again. Yeah. Trouble shooting on the life.
in on Twitter. Yeah, that's us to listen in that space.
Okay, is it possible for you to share the link in the Jammutron? Yeah, one moment.
Can you see the link? I just pin it upstairs.
Yes, it is life. Okay, no, no, no, yes, one, the last one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. The last one. Now we've reached there.
Yeah, yeah Sorry so that sorry star. Yeah
Let's just transition then just give me a minute while I
I should have received a message from Jimmy from
He shared a link. I am shortly sharing this hold on just to be safe.
Thank you for your patience, folks.
Okay, let's see.
Give me a minute.
troubleshooting on the life.
Spaces for us.
Twitter will love you so much, you are such a beautiful pain.
Okay, I have shared the tweet in the space.
It should be coming up shortly.
Yep, we can move to the space that is shade up there in the Jambotron if I can request folks to move up there. Thank you so much for your time really appreciated this. It has been a pleasure a slow one but most things in life come slow and grow on you. So thank you so much for
a wonderful conversation learning about Africa and just sharing inputs about India and just learning about all the good work that's happening in this space. Thank you fighters gang, CM Buga, unfortunately you couldn't come on live, solar punk guild, hope somebody is there behind you, Paula.
Great to see you here looking up symbiotica and Ayurveca. Thank you so much for being here and you too, Bolotria. Good to have you here. Thank you so much folks. I'll be switching off the space in some time. Thank you. Thank you for being here with me.