It's really nice to see you guys, I've sent you the advice to speak.
Yes, yes, definitely, yes. Okay, before I was run. Okay, who is behind the plantis? Just kidding, dude, how are you?
That's good. I'm still waiting to have a nice conversation with you and about John. Yes, yes, I know, I know. Let's have it today itself. Why not? Yeah, but not in public because I'm sure you have a lot of secrets.
Yeah, yeah, definitely. I said the flu season here in Bangalore so the thews a bit low on energy today is not doing well today. So you'll see me jumping in and out. Sorry, sorry for that.
But at least you are not feeling low at the same time. No, no, no, it sets all good. Like I'm at least able to help him out if he needs something, so it's all good. Nothing too serious, but then it's been a bit dehydrated, so yeah.
You are too much, I call too much parping, I know the problem here. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,#
Oh, good on my side. Yeah, it's a very strange geek around I must say and ever since something like that so nobody is donating is just nothing is happening except a beautiful Twitter space in a lot of jamming together and
a lot of vibing together, but as before the contribution we are all stuck. I'm really curious to see the numbers of the nation that came to the rounds in comparison to last time, but it will be something like 9 minus
90% something like that. So it is something. So I'm really looking forward to know more from GIT, and how it's going and what are the projections for the next 10 days. For me personally, I was just
As looking at a few guild members announcing that they are going to reimburse the gas charges, but I saw a comment from Ben West later on saying that it's not ideally proper if the individual projects actually promote contributing to them if they are willing to
Reimburs the gases. What are your thoughts on that? Are you aware of this? Well, I am sure already these thoughts with Sean a couple of days ago as soon as he proposed these things I say that it's a great idea but it's the very is the wrong time you cannot
proposed such an idea during the round because this is something that might be decided at a central level. I mean by the community of Gidcon and this kind of decision take time and to be fair not introduce some inequality you have to do
to do it for all, at the same level. So I suggested not to go on, but I also say that that was my personal opinion. They decided to carry on and it's okay. I think it's a great idea
But it's not going through. I just make a noise and the thing is like I didn't want to be a part of it is because during a grand town announcing it might be unfair like you said to certain projects.
because not everyone will have been the financial capability to reimburse the gas fees and stuff. So ideally they should have actually ran it by the KIT coin team before they came up with any announcement of this. But yeah, I was at that disappointing
it to see that you know few projects have put it up and it hasn't struck well with Ben and the rest of the team I guess but you know maybe to maybe have a conversation with them or to understand more about that scenario. Yeah I think that it's very important
to always be grounded and to understand that some of these, I mean, let me share my thought about that. I'm not saying that getting funds is not important and getting congrats, so it's very
important for each of us, but still you have to really try to enter in the mood of a marathon and of doing things altogether. And so anything that is going to affect other people or creating a
Even the idea of an unfair competition must be not done. I mean, and it's something that you can propose to get come by you do that privately and then you see how they react and then they will and again we can expect
this is happening two weeks time or in the middle of a round. So, but again, this is a personal opinion and I really, I say, I really give value to innovation. So, big shout out to Sean to propose this and I think it's a great idea.
And I don't think we have to invest time on that. Also because this problem is a very temporary one because as soon as GitCon will come back with L2 payment, the need of this will just disappear.
But still, we are innovators. So sometimes in a way to have to be brave and to propose things. So, Big Shutout is Sean. And yeah, and I don't want to be the conservatism in the group saying, "No, there's no, there's no, there's no." Because we also brave and we propose new things. But
That's my personal opinion. Anyway, what do you think about that?
I'm really sorry, but I thought about this for a while during the flight I had nothing to do. I just think about it. They had the fun somewhere, like a month, two months ago, right?
I'm not really sure why they kept just Ethereum this time. It's very, very weird to be honest. And it's very inconvenient for everybody.
That's mainly right. Last time they had optimism, right? Not so.
Now, last time I think the old adonation were only on Ethereum as well, but the gas fees were not so high. So I don't remember such valuable gas fees. But the gas fees right now is ridiculous. Absolutely right. So I think that we have to remember that we are in the middle of
a launching of a new platform. So we are not already with a completely developed platform. So they did this half-around, the bit-around, so they are still working on the platform. So I think that we need to be patient and grateful towards
the Git-Comp people, they are doing their very best and I think they didn't expect such high-guess fees and maybe they will go down. So let's see, and if not, I'm sure and I trust them enough to know that they will figure out a way to get out of this mess.
I'm feeling optimistic on that. Yeah, but like, yeah, I just hope that like the project that proposed this, like will not get banned or anything like that because they can actually like just like, you know, withdraw the project from around to something like do something crazy.
like that and like that's an idea like this sounds really nice but I mean I just hope they don't kind of like punish for just yeah for doing something useful. I think on these people who say that I'm joining these should be smart
And now they have the political opinion of github people and if this is the, I didn't see the truth of Ben. But if Ben said that it's not a good idea, I would cancel the tweet saying I'm going to do this.
That's their opinion and so I would not go on on that. I would not risk to be maybe I say banned from the round so again that's my personal opinion.
Hi guys, I think I was getting rocked hard so I couldn't catch a lot of what you were speaking but I need to get parts of it. I think the current situation
it is. So just some context, before I put out that tweet saying that we were going to do this, I actually did run it by him. Just
telling him that since this has been a problem for everyone, this is something that we are thinking of doing.
And his suggestion was that it would be better if we could do it collectively, you know, that all of us came together, we pulled in some money, created a pool, and then we asked everyone who was making these contributions, we would give them an offer that would
Okay, we would reimburse up to this amount or something like that. And then he also said that I think, Rifi Dao was also thinking of doing something like this, but collectively, of course, and he said that it would be better if all of us could come together and do it.
And he also said that you should ensure that if you do something like this collectively also, there is no quid pro quo going on whenever you are offering this. So my response after you put up that saying that it's probably stepping the line and I'll just send him a DM saying
that what we have offered is that if a donor comes in gives one dollar in contribution and pays say four to five dollars in gas, like we are only going to reimburse up to two dollars or if 50% is less than less than two dollars but up
to two dollars. So there is no way technically anyone can gain more by making the contribution than what we give them. And it's probably to us only fair that if someone is paying five dollars to make a contribution to our
grant that we bear some of that burden on some level. So it was that I think I don't think there I feel like I would probably want to have a couple of more like conversations or Jimmy and me were thinking that we get John and Ben
up for one of the radio sessions and we can all collectively hash it out. At least from our end, like we've just put up this proposal but we have not gone ahead and like done any reimbursements of sorts and I've also told him that if they feed
internally that this is not structured right then we would also happily take it down but I think everyone is on the same page that it is a problem and something needs to be done what happens is something that we need to figure out. Good, good.
Well, I think that we need to be grounded and since we know that coordination is complex. We are seeing it with Bitcoin radio coordinating 24 host for 11 days. It's not a piece of bread, as we say in Italy.
It's hard. And now you are proposing something that needs to be coordinated by all the grantees in the Githgar route in 10 days. It's not going to work. And because this one should be also a political decision by Githgar and they at the time is a big community.
you need to have a discussion and then after the discussion we need to be sure that every single grantee knows what's going on and everybody understands what's going on. It's just a waste of time. We can't do that in 10 days. It's not going to happen. So, let's just stop talking about that.
have trusting it could they will figure out something. So I think it's a great idea but the right process was to propose it to get caught privately not openly and saying listen we have this idea what do you think about that and let them do their job that's my personal opinion but again it's
It's good that people try, people are brave, but personally I don't think it's going to work and I don't want to put my time on that because personally I think it's not going to work because it's an impossible coordination. So you're 100% right and it was with that understanding only
only that I think we concluded that it's impossible to get all the projects to agree on such a short time frame on a specific way of doing it. But at the same time, like if there is a general understanding about this, we can all take up our own initial
where we all promise whatever we can deliver on. So it is then up to the project to decide like how much they would want to reimburse or if they want to or if they don't. But I can now see that like the whole promise of reimbursement can be given.
named by a few projects who might want to operate in the gray area and might be like, okay, we are saying this, but create some loophole and then incentivize people to contribute in some other ways. So we might like at least we are very open to see, okay, this is what we are
doing but it is possible that someone can use this mechanism to also incentivize people to contribute in other ways. So I do understand that this can be gameed but yeah I mean we haven't done anything yet so if they end up saying that yeah this is not something that we are comfortable
with now we will definitely take it down and also like we like you said that like we did that is how we I we did it that we spoke to them privately and got some clarity and then only we proceeded but I think maybe more conversation needs to happen around it.
I suddenly just take it down.
until you finish that conversation and we have clear guidelines. But take it down because it's risky for you, for your project, because if they decide that this is a quick pro code, probably will ban you. They can do that and this will be a pity.
But again, I'm saying, just, this is, I even can't, I'm speaking from the solar panel, you'll account. This is really the best solar opinion. So it's a personal opinion. But if I was you, no, I, I think I agree to this and I've sent him a DM saying that let me
know what to do and I've very clearly stated that if there is anything contentious about this, like I will just take it down ASAP. So, I mean we're not like adamant on doing it, it's just something that we put forward, I think to take the conversation ahead and figure out. But yeah, we haven't done any reimbursements
and nor have we like yeah there's nothing like. Yeah but the problem is not that you have not done any reinforcement even promising it or proposing it is introducing a quipro quo because you are introducing an unfair advantage for your project so if I was you I would just take it down now
Okay, good, got it. No, I get it. Okay. Yeah, yeah, no, no, I get it. Thanks, thanks for that.
Anyway, yeah, yeah, sorry like I'm like I've just like some experience with essentially with with like internal workings of Gidcoin, right? And like I was on couple of like Gidcoin down meetings on how how this process of like
reviewing and quit ProCore works. And essentially, they are very concerned about all the things that might lead to financial kind of incentives that might lead to projects or like user
right to the nature project. So that could be like, you know, promising like an NFT collection for a donation or like talking insurance and like this kind of gas reimbursement that is probably one of those things like if you donate money, right, we
you will get some money back, right? So this is like a buyback and like this actually like fits well into the quick-procure category and like it's yeah it's kind of when they get guidelines to do something to do something about it. Yeah.
A. Jimmy, can you hear us? What's your opinion on this?
Jimmy is not hearing guys
Okay, let's change subject.
I mean, to be honest, I'm really curious on how to market the project to users right now or to people to donate because the gas fees are pretty high.
And like not many people know how to create like a Gidgoon passport. So it's like it's even even more difficult right now. I'm like very very interested. Yeah. Is this is this your first round?
We took part in the Fountain Browns, that was essentially on Fountain Chain, and only for project that were deployed on Fountain with Gitcoin. But it's the first kind of official big round for us.
Okay, my ex I can share my experience again. I'm a based soul and I'm a co-founder of two projects one is called solar panomas and the other one is in Pat academy and solar panoma is now at its fourth round so we started
in Gitcon Grand 14 last June and I must say that every round was very different from the other. So the experience is always different. Sometimes you get a lot of donations, sometimes you get a few donations, sometimes you go very fast, sometimes you go
So it's very difficult to have a model for how a Git-Congram goes. But what I can say is that something that you can do, and you can do even if the gas fees are very high, and the nation are not coming, is building right
relationship. And to be relationship you have to work a lot on your Twitter, doing a lot of spaces and trying to be proactive understanding who could be interested in your project and finding in these two very intense week of communication, the good way to communicate your
project. These I think it's so important and is the biggest gift that GitCon Grant can give you because in that period everybody is very responsive. There is much attention to our space so a lot of people even outside, not the builders are coming to listen to
of us and so these two weeks are magic because in two weeks you can really clear your ideas about your projects, about how to communicate it, what is working in communication, what is not working. So focusing on these, you will not fail.
because maybe you will not get many donations, maybe you connect with a huge sponsor for your project. So try to focus not on the number of donations that you are receiving or how to get more, but how you can communicate better.
For example, how many people are following you on Twitter? So which kind of contents are you giving them? Because these things are really important. These are mixed different.
I check your page just now. You started in 2021, so it's year and a half that you are online and you have only 321 followers and I'm not saying it's bad. I'm saying that if you want to be active on
on the Git congrats, you have to build a good community around your project. So let us dream about your project. How personally, for example, I may be a fan of Pinterest, I still use it as one of the projects I use to relate
to access and to look for new ideas. I'm not using March when you once a week, but I'm a big fan of it. So how you can, to dream about your project, to believe in your project, how you can communicate better your project.
because this makes a difference. You did 488 tweets in a year and a half, maybe you can tweet more and you can learn to tweet more during Git congrats. And so focusing on this aspect will really save
I will protect your mental health and will give you the right focus and what is in my opinion is the right focus to keep on GitConGrants. For example, I check my Twitter page, I have also a couple of projects. I open my account
and I'm not making comparison. I just wanted to share with you where I invested my time and how I spain go. So I opened my page in January 2022, but I really started to tweet in April. So it's been a year on Twitter and I tweeted
11,000 times. And when you see the number up in your page, it tells you the number of tweets, but also the number of tweets and then comment you make to other people. What does it mean that I'm very active on Twitter? I'm following
a lot of people, I'm following 5,900 people and 6,000 people are following me. And I spend a lot of time on Twitter why? Because on Twitter I build a relationship. I am very interested to see what my friends are building. So I spend time sometimes in the field as well.
looking what they're doing. I commend them because I love them because Twitter is in my way to get in touch with these beautiful people in this space. So my personal suggestion is that these are the next ten days. Focus less on how you can get more donation, focus more on how you can tell us.
what you're doing. Twitter lot share ask people about their project because these are the real connection that guarantee that you are bringing back value from the Git congrats and this is guarantee. This nobody can take it from you. Donation
We don't know. Personally, I had no idea. In Gitcon, Gitcon grants, I can tell you my experience. Gitcon grant 14. It was very good for us, but because we were lucky. My page was small, which is 1000 followers, but we've been very lucky because we had a big donation on
day two and so this kept us in the training page at that time that was the training category and so we received quite a good quite a lot of donation and we ended up adding a sample like $7,000 of donation in total but almost $5,000 came from one
single sponsor and they really have a lot. KitKong grant 15 September was a sort of a disappointment because we were more ready so we really pushed a lot but the end of my mental energy was no good. I was really
to under too much pressure and I didn't spend August resting and so we ended up to raise maybe a couple of thousand dollars a little bit more and Alpha round was amazing for us. We were the first project for the
few days we were the most supported project in the climate round and we then did up to be the fifth most supported project. But I tell you, in any of these rounds we'll really focus on communication only, not really on the number of donations. And I've learned that if you can really
really stay in the zone communicating nicely about your project and being generous, being altruistic and you really stay in this nice spot, then you take a lot of good relationship and looking back one year of getting
I must say that the real gift of Git-Congrams were not the donation, but where the contact and the links we establish, the friendship we establish, and now we are building with a lot of people that I met on Git-Congrams. Sorry, I'm talking too much.
No, no, no, it's really exciting to hear your story. But like, you know, like from what you're saying, like I sound really really really like greedy looking for money, but like, no, like I'm just like very kind of, you know, like, like,
I'm looking for something to measure the success of what I'm doing. I think I've been around 10 Twitter spaces, or something like that. I'm not really sure what to focus
So, do I need to kind of to rise like some lines? Do I need to kind of like, where like is it to keep I just kind of sit back and listen to what others are thinking, like helping them out with the questions? Like I'm not really sure like what the correct strategy here is. And I'm like just
very interested in your experience. My opinion is that when you go in the space you have a very good opportunity. Person I'm not chilling the project, my project here because everybody knows me now. So it just
we're so time for everybody. But for example, I don't know you, I've seen you in a couple of space but still I don't know what your project is about. I see that you are building a web trip interest
talk about that. Why this is going to be so useful for the for projects? How this can help my project? I would love to know that because I'm again I'm a big fan of Pinterest. So
I say, helping save could be this very cool solution. So you have to find a way to talk about being safe in easy way because you have to speak also to non-technical person. I'm not very tech- I'm a
conservation biology. So I don't know I think about Web Tree. And so you have not to be technical if you want me to understand what you're doing. But you have to find a way and the communication is very important because
fine tuning your message it takes time and it takes a lot of interaction but if you don't do this interaction you will not fine tune your communication so have conversations speak with a lot of people and start from your product
So we want to know what's been saved is and how this is going to bring value to this space. How since we are all here to build a better world, how can I pass to build a better world.
Oh no, I didn't know the answer. I'm joking. To be honest, what we are trying to do is essentially just build a social media that is not controlled by a big tech. Something similar to lens, or I'm not really sure.
sure if a lot of people know how to use lands, but we're just trying to make it very simple for people to create an account for a social media page, and just post something.
That would be like a very, very short time. That's a big deal. I mean, making a social media that is decentralized, tell me more, when I'm going to close my Twitter account and jump in on PINC, how your project is going? Why is this different from Lancaster?
Tell me. Yeah, so like we're to be honest, I'm not sure if you're like why why it's like maybe different from lens. We're the same so the lens, but we're like we have like a couple of features that
different shaders from lens but like I'm pretty sure like lens is much better at like user experience and how it looks right now and to be honest we're just trying to to amel like to amel
I'm going to simulate the success of Lens, like focusing, for example, on images, videos, and just the visual content instead of like, you know, like, textual data. Yeah.
Interesting and how how your project is going at with stage are you?
So like at what stage I think we've got like a grant from file coin, but we're still like trying to like to contact them to kind of yeah, like we got the grants, but we're just waiting for it for them to kind of
to talk to us after we've completed the grant and just said like, "Send us the payment, I guess." Other than that, we're like, "We're actually applying for other programs like accelerators and qubitters."
I'm completing a lot of forums for partnering with other organizations. Are you building a loan or are you in a team? I have a friend that helps me out sometimes but he's very busy with the university and
He has a part time job as well. So I'm mostly focusing on this project myself at this moment. That's great. Maybe we'll have one call after the grants. After May 15,
I'm a co-founder of a project called Impact Academy and we do free 101 Cola to people who are new in the space or they just want to know about our experience. We can make 101 Cola, we can talk about communications
strategy or whatever you like so we have some experience and we'll be more than happy to share with you. Yeah absolutely this is this is great yeah thank you. Yeah no you're welcome. Jimmy can you hear me? I can see you you're very badly robbed today yeah.
I've invited Jimmy Lyck up all the time, so I'm just waiting for it.
I'm just waiting for Jimmy to accept the invite.
I see him as a speaker already.
Yeah, I've invited him as a co-host, but now he's gone as well. And guys, I have to leave because I need to organize something for the GitConradia Stuart.
10 minutes but I'll come later on to the plant this space and Q-Ran please can you share it on the cell phone the other the link once you have opened it
See you in the next video.
All good, Jimmy, all good. Because of your internet or is it just Twitter in general? It says I have bars right now.
possible in the past it was an internet issue as well. Yeah, having a challenge with the Starlink that we got here but yeah, could be a bit of both. Welcome fighters gang.
Yoweka Yuganda, much love. Yeah, so how's your weekend been? Sunday seems to be a little bit more slow than other days, but how's your day been overall?
It's been good so far. It's a flu season going on at R&D so I was sick initially now with a bit sick so it's just a bit of a low energy from R&D but otherwise it's all good. I was just
We were just having this discussion before we came where a couple of projects were doing the whole reimbursement thing for the gas fees. It might not sit right with Gidcoin, but then at the same time,
and then get coins asking you to do it if it's being done in a group and being done in orderly fashion. So just opinions being shared nothing like against anyone or anything but then what did you think of that journey? Like I heard that you were
We are thinking about doing it for the solar panels and gills and stuff. I don't know what's happened so far, but we are just having with us before you joined in just sharing us opinions as well. Anything you want to add from your head?
If you've gotten the gas situation, I said that's what I'm going to have to do. I'm going to cut out a little bit.
Sorry, you cut out a little bit the using for sillup on guild this is usually about the gas situation or
doing what exactly. Sorry about that. These headphones I think stop working with super low volume. I'm just not using my headphones anymore. Go ahead, could you just rewind a little bit there? Yeah.
I was saying that we are having this discussion just before you reached where we are talking about the whole gas fee situation and how projects are...
Yeah, so okay. Yeah, you're talking about putting them pull together. Yeah, that's what we were talking about. So yeah, you know, I think we can potentially get get going to sign off on something if and only if it's kind of like for everyone. Who knows maybe there's a possibility it could be for guild members, but
I'm pretty sure it's going to have to be for everyone. Maybe if we get a bunch of people to each put in like 20 bucks or something, then maybe we pick one day and we're like, "All right, gas flash sale, just today, gas is 50% off, up until this amount, whatever amount we raise, we get 10 people, 20 bucks, 200 bucks, whatever it is."
We're just like subsidizing people's gas. So it's almost like a you know a mall might have like a flash sale day or like whatever We're just get like subsidizing the fees 50% off And so yeah, we'll just like publicize it, but I imagine if like solar pump guild launches it even if we do make it open to everyone
We'll be the ones promoting it the most and most likely a lot of it will be for donors that have been waiting for gas to be reduced like with us. If we can reduce that gas for people, then I think we're going to see some more donations go over the line. I think it's a great concept, though.
like mid-round, I know Earth-based is a little bit pessimistic about it even being possible because mid-round and usually these things take a while to get properly greenlit. But the enthusiasm has been stirred strong behind it. I know it's already been a little bit of an MVP of this out. So I don't know, man.
I hope they just green light it because it's a great idea. Ideally, Ethereum would pay for it. ETH has got this fee in there which is important for the ecosystem but is it really necessary to take from Gidcoin and Vitalik is so behind Gidcoin, right?
vouchers for it quite a bit. So if we can like all yo yo what if we did that what if we got this radio station to start all tagging and spamming metallic me like yo metallic reduce the e-peer or reimburse you fees for good coin it's actually a pretty good idea
you know, it's possible. It's possible. If we got like 100 memeers together to each make like 10 memes, right? And we just all tag him. He would definitely see it. And then, uh, and then yeah, who knows? You will. Yeah, fuck no more gas fees for get going around. It's possible. It's possible. What do you think?
Yeah, I think that would be a better way of maybe tackling this. And like you said, Ethereum could actually maybe do help us out of the situation. And let's see, let's run it by the view and see what others have to think.
Yeah, maybe you'll be like a theory and foundation and we could tell both right? I need to jump off the other space but then you continue let's continue this conversation in the next space here.
Yeah, we definitely will. Good luck. Have a good day.
So we got finally I don't It's great like to be honest I didn't expect it like to to to like arrive on time and like I had to start this space like right like right on on
like a miscalculation. You did turn on time? Yeah, yeah, like, you know, it's kind of funny, like yesterday had like a flight and
I started this space and today I arrived and I had to start another one.
like walking like the transfer between the terminal and the flights. And I was just like stumbling, you know. I nearly fell on the ground. But like I mean the weird spaces have to go on.
As they got to go on you did it man you made it Congrats bro By the way worth the top of the hour now, which means it's pretty much time it is time to Transition to the next okay the space is already up there in the top left
So yeah, Pinsafe just keep the space going until everyone gets out of here. Let's all transition to the next. So fighters gang give us a thumbs up, daily give us a thumbs up, Ayahuaca. Let me know you're there and let's grow to the next one.
So pin save just keep telling everybody to get out of here. I'm gonna go on to the next. Alright, much love. Alright, daily gives a thumbs up. It's ready to flow. Let's go to the next one, fam. To the next. See you in the next one. Alright.
Everybody, please get out. Please. Move to another space.
Hey guys, please move to another space which is pinned at the top of the page.
Okay guys, I'm finishing or ending the space and see you at the next one.