Hello, Tech. How are you doing?
Can you make? I attack. How about you? Yeah, I can hear you. Okay, awesome, awesome. How's everything going? Yeah, good. How about you? Yeah, I think it's a good thing. It's a good one on my side.
I'm just having a hot tea. I don't know, I don't drink tea but yeah when I get sick especially like having the cold I got these
like a large team, lemon and ginger and then nutane and so that's been drinking it lately. I don't think you are that great like for a kid, like a cure for a couple
Yes, I'm bringing it as a prevention from getting sick. Yeah, how's, how's good point like, bro, you know what's interesting about this good coin wrap?
Yeah, you can use it. Yes, yes, I can. Yeah, I was so interesting like with the climate run, right? There's so many projects on the climate run and it's so it's so actually cool because a lot of projects actually
You know, they were in the community like for hands some of the projects are like This is the first time for good coin ground And so it's so interesting to see some of these projects that were so absolutely engaging as well like in the community
like some of the projects for example, Fight is Gang for example, Desi Africa, Desi Youth, there's so many projects like this is the first time, but
over the past year and so at least the past six months. They've been even the, they actually even the refined notes right? The refined notes are for the first time. They are all good. Yeah, the refined notes as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the refined notes are,
They are a little bit new, but they are the projects like, for example, they are not technically new, right? But it's their first time, but they spend their last few months,
actually building, building, making connection, supporting people in the RIFI community, in the space basically. Like you look at someone, for example, Sunny from FightersGAN.
You know this guy is so supportive like he's really really supportive and then He has a project now. So I feel like you know, they're gonna do really well because you know, they've built really good communities. They build really good
supporting other projects and things like that. And so I feel like they deserve a lot of support because they've been really supportive of other people and other projects. They get called to hand.
Fighters gang theme. Fighters gang I think I'm not shooting the in the refi in the refi in the climate. So the goal is actually to release some NFT collection.
And they focus on actually like on hand drone AI like, you know, they are the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the#
But as part of it, they're going to be actually planting 100,000 trees with intense and near, which is so cool. And they're partnering up with one of the projects by Jimmy Cohen.
And Jimmy has a lot of experience, especially in terms of implementing and planting mangrove trees. So they're going to be planting some mangrove trees. So yeah, it's pretty cool, man. Some of these projects are starting to actually come alive.
like we will well in a very unique way you know yeah that sounds great yeah and also like you know the criteria like to operate a refined node what is the criteria like suppose if you want to operate a refined node in your city then what do you need to do
I don't know the criteria to operate a refiner. I think you just have to have a couple of projects come together. So for refiner, refiner, refiner, refiner, refiner, refiner, refiner, refiner, refiner, refiner, refiner, refiner, refiner, refiner, refiner, refiner, refiner, refiner, refiner, refiner, refiner, refiner, refiner#
and RIFI Kenya, because but I think with the RIFI Nairobi it's more like a it's a local node actually yeah with RIFI Nairobi but so with for example RIFI Nairobi it's not just
Shambar, like, yeah, Kennedy is one of the people in in in Rufai Nairobi, but but it's also a few other people as well in the other in in from other projects as well for yeah, so I think
I think that's a good thing as well. Being able to bring some of these other folks together as well. Yeah, to build the community, I feel like that's actually a pretty good approach. OK, so like is there a possibility that basically you can also extend that node and you can also operate RFI?
like your city in which you are living with the river Nairobi? Yeah, so actually like if you can tell me the name of the city in Australia in which you are living I think you told me previously what is that? Oh I live
So like if I hovered if you want to basically operate so what yes I could actually yeah but I for this I don't we don't the they are now maybe maybe maybe also like having a on-grid
around present here and also like building other people as well who are into RIFI. He locally, I think that would be nice. I think RIFI, like I kidnap men, like I don't think a lot of people don't know about RIFI.
I feel like it's just online here on Twitter. But you write though, in terms of sparing it more, is there one would refer, because there isn't a
India but that will not be so is there one will revive I don't know which your city in for example as well is there one or not not yet no no not yet actually I haven't encountered any city of like which is having a note though like the five Mumbai also I haven't seen
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that you can run your own like RFI Hobbert and I can also try and look into that Friday. Yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah.
I mean, but I think also I mean, like even like I would love to have been run something in Africa, especially in South Sudan, for example, that would be actually nice because these are like communities that really need Rify, you know what I mean?
And you talk about like not just Rify but also the regenerative agriculture, you know, the education aspect of it. You know, you go there, the community actually, actually, actually, like an umbrella, I think, like in which all the things come under.
including for sure for sure but I think you know but I think the biggest thing is like communities like Kenya is good because Kenya has like high internet access and you know like when can they one visit
the farm for example, like the person was really, you know, doing regenerative alcohol here, you know, he was doing cup of crop, he was doing all these other things, you know what I mean? And, but if you go to like place like Sassadad for example, right, like, you'd be so hard to find someone,
who is actually practicing regenerative agriculture.
literally. And like, so I think the education aspect of it, the awareness of it, you know, like in these communities, like internet access is like a problem, you know what I mean? Like, especially you go to the rural areas, you know, they have, so you may find someone who has a smartphone.
You know, but in order to charge that smartphone, he has to go and take it at the shop. And then the shop charge it and then the charge starts person a little bit of money and they come back later and they take it. Sometimes you know, sometimes you just drop off your, you take your battery at your phone and you drop it off.
from to to to to the phone charging station and then they give you a number right? They give you a number and you must bring back that number when you come to pick your battery up. Okay. Your phone battery. You know what I mean? So but with these I for the these are you know these fours now you can't take your battery out.
You can do it like it's so different but I feel like that's where really ref I can really make a use in fact I think power bank especially power banks can be effective in that case like we can just give the power bank to the charging station they can charge that for us and then we can pick them up for sure for sure
So, and this is where things like solar can really play a lot in terms of being able to have like a power station for example. I think Elon Musk also do something related to solar city. So, I think he has also built some solar panels and he has also
So I think like he has also mentioned an idea to the African government like if we cover I think half of the Sara desert with solar panels, then we can generate a lot of electricity. Okay, okay, you know, I heard something similar that if they cover the, the sub-banner like then,
North part of Africa, right? In the desert? Yeah. With sort of panels? Yeah, exactly. Somehow it would affect South America. Like it would affect South America negatively, actually.
I don't know how, whether it is the, in terms of the, I don't know whether it is the, the, um, because I, I don't know, I don't know what, what the exact reason is, whether it is the
actually sound that is actually flowing from South Africa or from Africa part and then into, I know this is even like what the heck, this does not sound blue or silver. But solar is
really good man like when I went back to South Sudan right I went in the village I took like two solar batteries solar powers like those foldable ones you just fold them up you open them and you fold them and so I had that I took them in the village and I had like a lot of a lot of rechargeable
power banks. So I was able to recharge the power banks and recharge my phone and things like that. And yeah, and it was really awesome, bro. Like it was really really cool. So something like that would be really nice, you know, I think, yeah. But the problem is I think
The biggest challenge is transportation and stuff. Being able to transport them to the places, especially the rural areas, is hard. But you could do something in the cities and then expand into the rural areas. But yeah, so the panels are pretty good.
in that respect. Even water, I mean like we are very behind because even now in the internet like water there is no way to deliver water on the ground for example. So you have these
trucks that deliver water to houses. So there's so much inefficiency and there's so much waste and cost as well because they didn't deliver the water for free.
like in India. Like what is India's India has a really good farming and yeah farming community and yeah how is that how's the how's everything going on in that regard in terms of regenerative agriculture in India.
Oh yeah, I'm being you have no right now don't worry
He actually I lost the power so I basically connected the Wi-Fi to the UPS That's why I got disconnected No worries. I was saying how is like power for example how is it in how do you access it?
power in India and what is the state of the state of the other culture in India and the state of electrification and access to electricity? Actually electricity is basically privatized in India. It is basically provided by Tata and Reliance.
Like two companies you can also search the names. I think Tardis is pretty famous in terms of automobiles and all. Yeah, and basically the blind one is the one which is operated by Ambani. I think it's second or third richest in the world.
Okay, okay, I mean, I think they did, um, reliance, reliance. They do a lot of our reliance. Do you do a lot of stuff in telecommunication as well? Yeah, they do. Yeah, they are having a operator known as Geo.
JIO in India. It's I think 60% of Indians are basically using that. And is there electricity? Is there expanse? Yeah. There are also provided electricity in some cities like including Delhi. Like BSCS is the name which is our company.
How do lion is it like do power go out a lot or how do lion is it How Like how do lion are they the electricity? Yeah, like power are they
So like I think the power outage is once a week or so not much once a week for I think for around an hour maximum not more than that Wow okay that's not too bad that's not too bad actually and it is actually like there is like not much power outage but in
the villages there are like in the villages like of the Pradesh you can consider like there are various power outages and daily basis on daily basis. Okay but in this one in for you guys who like one hour a week right yeah yeah
Has it improved or we used to be two hours per week? Has that actually improved over time? Yeah, actually it is. Like actually it basically depends on the state government like the government which is currently ruling in the state particularly. So as of now the state is
the government which is like in the state in our state Delhi is like Amar Bipati AAP, so that government is basically very good in terms of providing electricity and you know like up to 300 units they provide free free electricity 300 units
Why? Why is that? How come? You can also read about that like the chief minister of Delhi. You can read about him and his tactics. Basically he wants to make the state as corruption free as possible.
That's good. That's good. That's the thing. When you have people, good people running the government, I think you have huge improvements. You have reduction in property. You have also, yeah, so I think that's fantastic, man. And did you do
that to make electricity free for 300 units so that it actually encourages developers to build apartments or move apartments. Is that the reason why you did it? Yeah, actually like making it free like for the general public.
because they are generally public like we do like who are not having air conditioners and the appliances which consume a lot of electricity then I think they can basically they are the ones who are taking a lot of benefit from that. But how are they getting any the government is not getting any benefit like
Apart from improving the people lives, they are not getting any financial benefits at all. They are getting benefit in terms of... So actually if you are making something free, then the people are willing to pay taxes, more willing to pay taxes.
So they will be like, like if government is providing something for us, then we also should do something. So like it's basically a kind of good people's game against it. Yeah, no, and nothing that she actually is pretty smart. You know, it's not like you must pay for this and then you go to the people you say,
You must pay taxes and you start jelling them. It's actually a diplomatic approach. And you do will. Actually, apart from that, yeah, apart from electricity has also built free schools, free hospitals, and also the free travel for women particularly.
like fillet, like like, okay so like if you consider like a metro railway like a kind of like intercity rail railways so he make that free for every women and all for the bus transportation.
You made a free for women. That's amazing. That is amazing. That's actually pretty cool man. That's pretty cool. How to him man, that's really good. You know. Yeah, you know, the main thing for people is actually in my opinion the most important thing like for any country.
is to basically make the education as easy as possible for the citizens and for all the young generation particularly because that's what Bangladesh has done to basically and after that it's GDP is like
Significantly improved they they just only focused on education they prioritize that You know like if you compare if you compare Bangladesh GDP which which was around five pairs or six years ago, and if you compare it to now then it's like I think sky and
not difference. Yeah and I think it's interesting right like education is something that is that's important and especially you know when you look at like developing countries you know like you know
You look at it in places like South Sudan, the education is not up to power and the government investing is not strong at all. You look at places like Kenya, the education they invest a lot in the education system and they don't only invest in these
like a lot of other countries, for example, in his Africa. Essentially what people are doing is, or what government I still doing, and the education system is mostly theory and mostly memorizing of things, right? And it's not only in the country, I think, even within
US. Okay, okay, okay, but I think like not doubly shabby. But don't you think like like when you look when I look at that Kenya like you know this guy I was watching his channel he's he's in Uganda he's an African American guy and he has a business
and he employed people there and he says, you know, he had to train people for eight months to get them up to speed. And these are university graduates, right? But if you look at Kenya, you wouldn't have to do that because the education system is actually pretty, pretty strong.
And so I think that is something that is really, really crucial. But if you look at he like in Australia, right? So the state are living in Australia and you can imagine Australia is a, you know, what a federal country or whatever. But the state are living the literacy rate
50% okay right so many this half of the population in the state are living of 500,000 people cannot read or cannot read or write or right here and and this and there I'm investing billions into the education system here
You see, so I think it's also what sort of investment you actually give into the, into the, yeah, the type of investment you give and how you actually improve the education system. And I think
government schools here, they are terrible. And I think government schools also, I also to blame why the literacy rate is so low. I was very fortunate actually, I didn't go to a government school, I went to a Catholic school, a private school.
And what was so interesting is that I went to grade five literally so when I came to Australia I was forced to go to grade five because I was like 10 years old and so I had to pretty much start from zero because you know I didn't even know the basics of
you know, off-bed. But what was so good about it was that they had, you know, extra classes, for example, right? One-on-one classes. And so that was kind of actually helpful in terms of like being able to get me up to speed and things like that.
And so maybe, yeah, and so I felt like I was actually catching up a lot. I was, I felt like I was, you know, just catching up to to learn English and like, you know, trying to be better and all this stuff and read and write and all this things. And the teacher. So by the time the teacher, the teacher.
That's very good. Oh, the teaching is amazing. The teaching is amazing. Especially, you know, you know, there's one really amazing teacher, Mr. Joseph, unfortunately, she passed away. But she was tremendously amazing and really, really hopeful. But overall, we have some really great
great teachers and I think these the first few years were really fundamental in terms of being able to learn but I think you could say as well that sometimes there's an exception to the rule because you know you feel like you're behind right
So you've like, you know, I'm trying to reach up. I'm trying to like, you know, especially articles. I think reading articles was really, really helpful. And so by the time I went to university, I really never said, you know what, I'm actually there yet. You know what I mean? I'm like, okay, now,
can actually I'm pretty much at the standard of a normal typical average person of my age, for example. So I think it's like I think that actually hope in a way, you know what I mean? So welcome everyone, Jimmy, welcome, Fighters again. We talked about you guys before, especially Fighters
again because you have a pretty cool project and being part of the community. So welcome, welcome, welcome. And it's so cool to see some of the people who have been really supporting the community, who were the same as before. Now they have
The projects and the projects are live on get Corne and so yeah, it's really really awesome to back some of these projects and Because they've been really really supportive to all of us Jimmy welcome, man. How are you bro? My brother. I'm good man. I'm good at talk. It's great to see you
down the rail station. I'm grateful. I finally caught up on sleep last night after a lot of deprivation. So yeah, man, I'm good. It's been
been great chatting with people, connecting, you know, the relationships we formed during this time has been, has been already amazing and we're just getting started. So I'm just good man day two day two. Let's grow. Let's freaking grow.
Yeah. Yeah. When you go back to Africa, by the way, Jimmy. Potentially June 5th, I'll be in Africa. I might be in Malaysia for World Environment Day. That's when I'm attempting the next Guinness World Record.
Or yeah, probably start of June, I'm guessing I'll be back. Either in East Africa or in Malaysia. It kind of depends on how this partnership goes. But yeah, it should be good. How about you, Man? Are you going to meet the rest of the Shamba gang at some point?
Yes, yes, yes, I want to see it. It was see it who went last year, see it when the end of last sometime last year and to Kenya and so it was really cool, but I didn't get to go. What you came to Australia, right? Like and what have you
Notice and like you know when sometime when I was in Africa last year and I was like man I was I was so hot there I was like a kind of way to do the air conditioner, bro Like for me it was the opposite did I got here? I'm like holy shit. It's cold like
I got climatized bro because I've been living there for like three years and I'm not like in Queensland or anything. I'm like in land up it's like freaking cold then I'm wearing two pairs of pants right now and two jumpers and I'm still cold. Not used to it dude.
But and yeah, I do kind of yeah, what have I noticed like? Everything's a rip off here I also got used to buying like one dollar beers and like you know 50 cent coffees and I was like you want seven dollars for a coffee get out of here It's
Yeah, so there's a lot of adjusting. I'm kind of like getting a reverse culture shot coming back to Australia. I mean, I haven't I like lived here lived here since I was like 11. But but yeah, man, on the other on the other note, it's also nice to have like free healthcare like I had to get a fourth rabies job after my trip.
to India, I got bit by something in the night. So they did that for free, which was kind of cool. So, you know, there's definitely pros and cons to it. And yeah, it's good to see some family I haven't seen in four years. There's some good things there. And yeah, man, we're about to destroy you.
I mean the place called Tasmania. It's a little bit cold. Yeah, Tazzy's cold. So I've heard you've been but yeah, right. Tazzy. Well, what's the what's the regeneration scene like there? Like are there carbon projects happening?
Not that I'm aware of. I was actually talking to Seattle about this before and I would ask you to try to do some research and leave this any local projects that are happening. I know there's a lot of, there's a lot of because as many as I can.
There's a lot of forests a lot a lot of forests and so there's a lot of activities people going to bush walking and things like that But yeah, not really in terms of that I know Like how you know carbon projects or
or RIFI projects and you know as it is I feel like Twitter is where the RIFI community is really. You're connecting with all these awesome projects and all these people from different places in the world.
incredible things. Yeah, bro. Um, absolutely. Uh, Twitter's where it's at. Speaking of which, let's all retweet this room out. Play bloop. Do the RT thing.
And yeah, let's keep these good vibes flowing. So who else will be here? So say it. Yeah, go ahead, say it. I don't want to hear from you. Hello, Jimmy. How are you doing, man? Am I audible?
Yes, yes, you are a boss here. Okay. Okay. So actually I want to ask you I was bugging a little bit there. I couldn't know me. Yeah, I'm doing well. But yeah, go ahead. Okay. Okay. Great. Actually, I want to ask you basically regarding like what is the criteria to operate a like a node, refine node. So like all these nodes are running. So like what what is the criteria?
that one needs to fulfill. So suppose if a tag wants to run a node in his city, so like what he needs to do or if I want to run a node in my city. There's a good question, man. I'm not the person to ask for that and not a part of refiDOW, but we did have refiDOW in a few nodes.
up here before and some of the other radio stations a little bit later on during the, I think it was Greenville Germany one. So just try to make sure you're not just going to the Shamba radio station, go to all the other radio stations. Some of them can get pretty big and can be a pretty good chilling opportunity for you guys. So there's a great way to connect with people.
from all kinds of different projects throughout this 24 hour experience. So do your best to try to show up to different times. And yeah, man, I know that, I don't know, you got to submit to ReFi DOW or something. And you have to give them like a percentage of your token. You're supposed to launch a token and give them a percentage of it or something.
So I'm like that, but yeah, it Could be an interesting thing to consider. It definitely speaks to Atlantis about it. They had different feelings about it Going different directions, but there could be a good opportunity for sure and I love the fact that the world is kind of coming together this network state concept
It's kind of interesting, but yeah, we got fight is gang in the audience come up your fight is gang Shot you an invite tell me how did you first hear about Reef by side? You actually from Shambha itself like From these guys like when I started working for Kennedy
then only I basically heard about the term Refi and then I think like like I had a conversation with Prana in which he told me that the Refi is the term which is in coin by I think the founder of region Gregory Landwa and also it's having like a lot of different origin stories as well
the REFI. It's like a kind of better defy or like I think it's proposed to make defy focused on the regenerative activities mostly. So that's
That's my knowledge only like in terms of RFi and also if you can enhance it then I feel free to do so I'll be glad if you can tell me more More about RFi well a lot of people think of RFi as carbon credits and that's definitely how it started and yeah
Gregory Lundua had him on Max Impact, but it's also broadening out. I think that also eco credits is going to become a big thing. It already is starting to pick up some steam. This is basically just proving that trees
planted that or biodiversity credits is also a new acid class that is coming to be. So definitely keep that in mind. And it actually is for many things like even by nature animals, even there's like water credits and stuff like this. Many different things.
reverse the effects of climate change because if we plan a tree today, it'll take 25 years to sequester the carbon and it happens according to a bell curve. So I really think that the purpose of carbon credits should be to reinvest back into more regeneration, but there's a pretty big time delay in which that can happen. And so yeah,
But by basically working with carbon forwards, it means you can inject funds back into regeneration in the short term and order of magnitude more than what it cost to plant those trees in the first place, which means you can really exponentially do that. And what we're also planning to do is change the incentive structure around regeneration.
because right now our economy really values the degradation of nature over regeneration of nature and that's why we see the world that we have today and so I hope that that will change once we can leverage these carbon forwards and put a portion of that back to the tree gins such that they can
be more bullish on regeneration and transition the other DGNs into tree gents. That is the goal of the tree gents initiative. I see we got sit-shot down the audience, do enhanced craft, earth, dallas, much love. I'm going to invite you up here to speak as well. I'd love to hear a bit more about
what you're working on. And yeah, fam. So, so which part into you in Bangalore? Yeah, I'm in Delhi, New Delhi. Oh, Delhi. Okay. What's Delhi like? Man, I heard it's getting hot over in Mumbai. It's similar over in Delhi. No, no, actually like in Mumbai, I think it's like
I think the temperature is pretty much the same around the air because it is a coastal place but in Delhi we can basically get all kinds of temperature like it is starting of summer now and around October it is the starting of winter and in July August there is a rainy season
I did submit one proposal and have some point of contact with the mystery team guys. Having had a response back from that and I also haven't followed up on it. The reason being, you know, I broke the world record for most trees planted in the day. I'm planning to do that with Guinness World Records.
It was going to be Earth Day. We pushed it to World Environment Day, which is June 5th. The reason we couldn't make it happen with Guinness and Time. We're going to be doing it with Guinness June 5th. Once they have that Guinness World Record, plus some partnerships with the United Nations and Rotary Clubs, then we're going
to be really following up with those three points of contact that I have to beat the next World Record, which is 355 million trees. So these tree gens NFTs, if you personally plant trees, your heart orb gets brighter. And that's going to unlock utility like exclusive access to, you know, different experiences, a refi events around the world.
And also again, we're going to be sending you carbon forward, backed tree tokens. And so that is, that's part of it, right? We want to grow this movement of people around the world to be really bullish on regeneration, to take action, to send us videos, we count it, and that's how we can
in like do this in a decentralized way. So Ethiopia planted 355 million trees when they were setting that current record of how many trees can be planted in a day. And yeah, so that's that's the thing that we want to break now.
and you know, it really starts by getting a movement and having this AI tree counter that we've already developed. How do you also work on AI? Is that around tree counting or-- - Data-like data. Tell me a bit more about how you guys have learned to integrate AI. I think that's a pretty important piece and there could be a collaboration in that area.
I think we will be using some open AI tools for the DMRV but we haven't had an internal meeting yet regarding that so I think we need to figure that out as we move further.
about if we like if you basically go forward to do like implement a kind of metaverse of tree planting. Have you think about that? Like a metaverse in which
if somebody plants trees then it will be equally effective in reality as well. Jimmy?
I think this whole ground happened last time. Yeah, right on my journey page. Yeah, no, yeah, I'm tree gen now. I'm actually on the same phone. It's crazy. There's no one in Jimmy right now, but it's still so coasting. Yeah, no, so sorry, bro, you got to have to
rewind their 30 seconds. What did I miss? I did hear the metaverse thing. Yeah, yeah. So actually I was asking if you can create a kind of metaverse in which if somebody is planting trees like a game and then that will be equally effective or I think reflective in terms of reality as well.
Is it possible? Creating a metaverse in a game. Yeah, you know what I literally just have a conversation with someone the other day who worked with Atari and actually did the animation for
I heard man and a bunch of really famous films and it's his vision to create a mevars with tree planting and integrated into it. But man, I feel like there's so that's a lot of work and that's a lot of money and the benefits, you know, it could lead to some regeneration.
And put like what's the business model behind it? How would that tangibly release more generation? It's not super clear. I mean, I feel like Man, if I were to do that, that would be everything that I would do. Like that would be the thing. I can't do tree gins, launch a dynamic semi-solbound token, which is innovative.
and the trees and run a tree planting company and build the game. Like it's just not going to be my thing. Maybe like if we are super successful in one of those areas, then that could lead us to being in a position where we can just hire the best teams to go out and run with these ideas. But right now I'm still
building phase. I think focus is really important. You can't build everything at once. You got to pick one thing, be great at it, have a home run, and then use that funding that you obtain through that first home run to fund other business
Yeah, I think it's a cool area, but it's not going to be a short term thing. I feel like a lot of people jumped after the metaverse when they saw Facebook change their name, but I don't think it's really there. I personally love
AR than the I think augmented reality is going to be really, really cool like it's still connecting us with this world, but it is. It's connecting us with this current world and it's also, you know, connecting us with whatever we can imagine up and so.
Games in AR are going to be a big thing. Everyone knows that Apple is working on AR and potentially releasing one for developers at this coming conference, the WWW whatever it's called, the BOD. And so, yeah, I think AR is going to be huge, absolutely massive. And I'd love to try to gamify or bring the tree gents to
in AR and maybe make a game out of that. But again, that's going to be down the line once we've built in. You got to build your first MVP first, so that's what's up. But tell me about this YouTube thing. Oh, go ahead, I talked.
I was gonna say, especially like a phone app or something like that, you know. Yeah, it would be really, really fun.
Yeah, it could be a fun phone app. But you know what's cool about obviously the integrate into the iPhone if the if Apple releases the a right. But what's very cool is the fact that you can prompt apps so that
This is apparently one of their patterns that they put through. You will be able to describe an application and have that application created based on your description. We already see a version
you can literally prompt a working product, a technology. And as the barriers of creation become that love, whatever idea you can think of, I'm not too worried about the future of employment opportunities.
opportunities, like, yeah, so much jobs, so many jobs will be replaced by AI, but also so many more businesses and technologies will be developed because literally anyone who has an idea can just go, bloop, prompts, done, you know, right now obviously you have to know how to launch it.
Maybe fix some bugs, but dude, we're still early stages. Imagine Chad GPT 10. GPT 10's gonna be off of pre-conchain, right? And it's gonna be able to create in so many different mediums. So, bullish.
Yeah, I was walking my friend through recently for mid-journey. I took a little bit some time, so these tools are great, but getting to use them takes a little bit longer than the actual
actual, you know, when you actually get there. But I think it's what's interesting. I was telling him that you know, it's good to actually learn these tools right to use them because we don't want to be the people who got stuck on on facts machines, you know, and then the computer came out and I didn't want to adopt computers.
And then we adopt the computer and then we adopt the laptops, you know, or the phones, the smartphones, and stuff like that. And so in order to do that, we just have to just be more proactive in learning new tools that come out, be able to use them, be able to learn how to use them. Yeah, I think, you know, what's interesting like
You know if you look at the last 10 years There hasn't been a lot of innovation actually a lot especially the US The last 10 years there's been more innovation than any other time in history bro. I don't know. No, I mean you can you can you can look at like
You know there's some companies that then you know you can say okay open AI for example, right? But let's look at let's look at like the the stuff that actually fails for example, right? The Amazon the Amazon. Yeah, the Amazon drone delivery and Google glasses were a lot of failures. Yeah, I see you're like
Yeah, no, Alexa failed. In fact, the CEO of Microsoft, he said that we should have focused on this, the generator AI instead of actually focusing on these speakers or audio speaking devices assistance basically.
And then you look at a lot of copying that happened like Facebook is the master of copying for example, right? There's not much in the version on Facebook like you look at the stories you look at the stuff that copy from from you know from Snapchat and stuff like that So I feel like that's where you know and and and it's actually makes sense because these come
companies, they're massive companies, it takes long to actually move the structure. And then there's also the regulatory problems, challenges. And so for companies like Google, it actually takes longer to ship products out because they've worried that regulation
We look at the recent Blizzard, you know, Activision Blizzard Accusation by Microsoft. It's not going to go through because it's been blocked for, you know, Primord and Monopoly kind of thing. So, Andy Truss. So I think it's quite interesting, but there's a lot of innovation with
new startups, new companies for sure. I think that's really where the good products that I've only been. And Facebook, is it? There was a company that they bought a couple years ago actually. I don't know. It's Oracle or it's
the VR company actually. And so the body's company really, really, really, and I think, and so I feel like that's really where the value is coming from, is coming from acquisitions, but even now those acquisitions are being denied by
by antitrust and by regulators. You look at the Instagram acquisition, for example, you see, which may be even possible for them to do today if they were to acquire it. Yeah. I don't know. Does that make sense?
I see what you mean. But this is kind of how businesses always are, is like the old older, I guess older is always relative in the tech world. These old companies, instead of innovating, they just buy a lot of innovations, right? Like Siri, Apple bought Siri,
If you look at SAP, this massive billion dollar German company, they're just buying companies all the time. Google buys a bunch of companies because they have so much reserves. It's the startups that are innovating and then massive companies are like, "Oh, that's pretty good. I'll just buy that."
And, you know, so yeah, I see what you're saying. Definitely, it can seem. The thing with innovation is you kind of, you kind of feel like it's not happening and then all of a sudden you like, holy shit, our entire society is completely about to transform. You know, that's what's about to happen with AI.
And it was like a long time coming over the last years and obviously it started way before that but these these language models and machine learning and all this different stuff has been developing and developing and growing until all of a sudden it's like holy shit. This is game changing. We can code just with a prompt and and the UIs are just getting better and easier and more accessible to
to people and do. I think we're about to experience another renaissance. I actually believe that in terms of creation, and it might not be with a brush, it's going to be with a prompt, because the barrier to creation is so small. The thing about technology
is it's growing exponentially because these tools are the building blocks that allows you to build, right? It's like we're building tools and those tools accelerate how fast we can build. And so, dude, like now with, you know, still like, okay,
with chat GPT, you need to know a few fundamentals, like how to launch the code, how to fix the bug, like I was saying. But, but man, like literally imagine you have any idea, how many ideas have you had in your life? Like I've had so many ideas, but I'm not at all a tech person. Like once that last step is removed of being able to fix the bugs
be able to deploy the tech and it's just going to be like, oh, make them more like this, oh, make them more like that. And you're just going to have this back and forth process like a chat where you're just iterating on technology ideas with zero requirement for knowing how to code. Can you imagine the innovations and the technologies and the
solutions that are going to be coming out like do every day it's just going to be insane and like if you think Chachi B.T. is the only AI we're talking about man Google like dude I found some insane like ones that are coming up you can film in your living room with a few props like a water bottle or whatever and make it look like an animated Indiana Jones
movies, movies, you know what I mean? And you can like, some of these other AI tools that are coming out now are insanely great. And like mid-Jernie, version 5, like just photorealistic stuff, Pranav isn't the house everybody, we are blessed to have one of the legends of the re by space in our space.
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