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GM Live - Trump Addresses Crypto, XRP Rally, RWA & DePIN Plays
Recorded: March 21, 2025 Duration: 1:03:53Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored market trends, the upcoming launch of Zandium, and the growth potential of Flux, emphasizing the importance of revenue generation in the evolving D-PIN landscape.
Full Transcription
GMGM everyone. What's going on? My man. GMGM. I'm gonna go ahead and do that.
GM GM everyone. What's going on?
My name is an action. an action. I
cannot hear him. I don't know about you. Doodles. Can you hear
him? Probably not. I think he just tuned off and for those
just jumping in at the very beginning, he didn't have it set
for Twitter and I'm like, I couldn't find it and now it's there
So we're live on we're live on Twitter doodles. You are connected live from not necessarily a GM but a GN
Yeah
No, I'm just doing the day and it's about 11 o'clock here in Thailand. I'm just enjoying this Friday night.
I'm happy to be here with you guys.
I know the rest of the world's waking up and looking at the market,
how the market is unfolding.
And no, I don't have the prediction of what Bitcoin is in the future.
Unfortunately, it is the same price, 12 hours ahead of time.
But I'm doing good, Scott. How's the day going?
How are you feeling going into the weekend?
Pretty good, I guess.
You know, I know we were talking earlier in the space,
you know, about the market a bit, and I wasn't really too fazed.
You know, I mean, like we both have long term conviction with Bitcoin,
other tokens, you know, you as well with NFTs and and various projects.
So we're we're looking past the day week, even the month, and we're looking more, you know, in
the future.
We have, besides just money invested lots of time, this is what we do, you know, as
profession and stuff.
So we're used to some of this.
I think some of the people that have come in since the election here in the states in
the last like three months ish and saw some huge movement and then saw some downtime actions here
are a little bit maybe worried, but you stick around long enough, you get this, you zoom out,
you know that you have ups and downs, but generally we hope to be start trending back up again.
Now let's see action you here? Can we hear you?
I am.
We can hear you right now.
Action, action baby.
I love it.
Action's above that action, right?
Action is above that action.
About that action, that's what it is.
I got us something special.
Shout out to people like Down Home Crypto.
He's got a little YouTube link down there at the bottom
because I made a decision to go ahead
and stream this on action crypto.
I've been doing this, you know,
this show with you guys for a couple of weeks now
and just kind of make the decision to pull the trigger
and say, let's go ahead and do this,
make sure that we are getting's kind of content out there.
It's new.
My current channel, so that people don't miss out on the amazing sites that
Scott has been giving where the.
Wait a minute.
Now, one thing we do got to try to see and fix is that mic of yours.
I'm not sure what's going on, dude.
Does he hear him?
He's a little bit in and out there.
Oh no.
Am I in and out?
No, no, he sounds good. Now you sound a little better there. I don't know what you're doing. I think I. the the Shit, we're down bad here guys. It looks like people are active again.
Old projects are tweeting, new projects are dropping.
You got people dropping new miners, new tokens are going to mainnet.
What's poppin action?
What's the alpha baby?
Dude, there's a lot going on and it's kind of crazy because people look at charts and go,
things are boring right now.
Dude, there's a lot of things happening.
There's a reason why I wore this hat.
I was gonna ask you about it.
This is happening.
It was in Twitter.
Look at this, look at this.
I thought it was Scott.
I got it.
Actually with that Zandium hat.
That's much better.
It's much cooler than then
Twitter's logo don't you know have you heard his endium obviously not you know
I don't know I don't know doodles that's why I got asked a question no no break
it down all right let us, cause it is a cool hat.
I was gonna ask you where I can get one.
This is a one of a kind.
I don't think there is another one of these.
There are three styles.
I did an interview, I interviewed Bernie, watching Bernie.
He's got like a few hundred thousand subscribers
here on YouTube, but did an interview with him in Vegas
and not long ago and he's like, I have some hats.
Would you be interested?
And I was like, yeah, I would.
Yeah.
No, the swag is awesome.
What they're doing is pretty unique.
And there's a pretty awesome opportunity to make some money,
which is what I like when it comes to the deep end,
like finding some of these plays is pretty important to me
to be able to get in early.
They're going to do their sale on the 25th.
So when is that?
Exactly.
Let me see.
It's going to be on Tuesday.
So I think I have a space with them on Monday to go over what's going on.
Actually, no, I don't think I'm hosting that.
I think it's you, Scott.
You're going to be hosting that one with them.
Good luck.
On Tuesday, we're walking you off the deep end, Scott.
Now I just check the calendar.
What are we doing?
Swapping around?
I just realized you can do this.
I'm so sorry, guys.
I get distracted and I just realized
you can drag and drop people on the screen
so we can flip people around.
This is great.
Playing musical chairs here in the studio, guys.
We appreciate you guys being here.
It is, basically what we're doing, musical chairs.
Anyway, Zandium, it's a storage for Solana,
but like real storage.
So right now all the validators,
they just compute transactions,
but if you're running anything on Solana,
you don't have like fast access to it.
So they're just basically doing what this guy over here,
does at Flux, but only focusing on the very niche of applications
running on so and providing that storage solution for that. Yeah, that's what's going on. Dude,
I feel embarrassed now. I feel like I need to feel like we need to send Dan a link. We
could we should. That mean that that's what we're going to
see what happens. Hold on a second, send it over, send it
over. See, see if then is there and we will run a internal bet.
And I'm going to type in here.
this is good.
It's just internally. So we got to play some bets on if Dan gets on how long it's going
to take for that to happen.
I just sent him a sent him a message. We'll see if he checks this and if he's still watching
that he'll know to check the viewers don't know we can send them a link and get them
on the show. That's pretty badass. And when we do, people get like freaked out to like, we're getting on we're we're on set. We're we're on live.
It's amazing. That's the best thing. Like, there was a reason why I said yes to doing the show.
Partially is because obviously I have an ego and needs strokes. So like somebody put me on
screen and then I say yes, definitely the last person that has an ego that needs to be stroked the I caught that. Action wants to do the stream for a couple of reasons. Obviously, there's lots of great people out there
that he knows and connects.
But he also, to be honest, this is part
to support close friends like Udoodle, me, Toki,
the rest or whatever.
There's a good squad of people that are just grinding out
there trying to provide alpha, trying
to provide real news from projects out there.
And Action has been putting together like a good group here.
And so part of that was we need to get a live stream going,
get the word out on all the great things GenZio clients are
doing, other people who don't have a voice,
and bring our friends on there.
And Action is the biggest advocate for supporting friends and good people and wanting to, you
know, provide value in this space, not extract it, not, you know, scam people or do any BS.
So you're really kind, but I will put this out there and just let people know that it's
not a matter of how much you pay me. but I will put this out there and just let people know that
How much you pay me like I talked about Zandium because I like Bernie he's a really cool dude
Not because he's moving money like I get nothing extra to talk about people like for example here is Millen from crank
Crank on cadena doing IOT similar Helium does, but without taking advantage of people. Like that, see?
See, nobody paid me anything.
Same way that-
Helium takes advantage of people?
I was just about to buy the miner.
Dan backstage, hold on.
Yeah, I was about to say,
it's the same way that this guy has never paid me
and still shows up.
Nice shit.
What's going on, Dan?
That's awesome, guys.
You guys hear me all right? You sound great. Yeah, you're good. the I think it's a little inappropriate that you're taking my job as far as trolling then. That's what I do. No, you're still kidding, dude.
I think I've promoted, like directly a million times trying not to curse.
So you know, we're in association.
How are you doing then?
How's your Friday going?
Good.
Good.
Good guys.
Awesome.
Yeah. All right.. I gotta ask you a
question. What does that post a note on your monitor say the
number for that one? Stop putting them on the spot like
this. Well, a little while ago and he said that he has a post
a note on his screen with the price that he wants flux to get
to but it's not about the price but it doesn't hurt to have a little post note over there.
Of course, I look at it.
I look at it every day and I'm not, I am not the type of guy to worry about the price of
anything.
Um, I tend to look to look at fundamentals and projects and so on and so forth, but it
does have, it is nice to have motivation and you know what I mean?
Like everybody needs to understand that the monetary policy of these projects is important for people if they're going to invest and actually run, especially with deep pins.
Like if your deep pin isn't making money today, or you don't have like a one-year, two-year projection on revenue, you're done.
Like there's no going back. This is going way too, way too fucking fast.
We did this for eight years and built us out. And we're still playing from behind with, you know, legacy technology trying to basically disrupt us. So yeah, the real thing is, is, and I've been telling people about this about Deepin for a long time is say, okay, your product is, is what it is. How do you make money?
Because if it's a speculation play,
I have a white paper to dream
and you're gonna speculate on me being successful,
that isn't gonna fly anymore
with 3.7 million crypto projects floating around.
So I think Deepin is like the very first use case
that actually creates revenue generation.
I mean, Flux makes money.
It does, it has made money for years, you know.
So, I mean, and that's, you know,
we're missing a lot of that strategic planning in D-PIN.
Stan, for people that are just fresh to the stream
and maybe don't understand what D-PIN is,
break it down for them on like a 60,000 foot level.
Essentially, D-PIN is, you know, you think IOT,
you know, the internet of things,
essentially people have these multiple networks
that are standalone networks.
And we're participating with them in many ways,
but the biggest thing is we have to understand
is that these are autonomous organizations. They're separate from, you know, the Borg that is.
And it also doesn't rely on, you know, user base as a partner,
rather, it's a product, your product, if you're using these
networks. So what this does is it puts the power back into the
hands of the people on all layers. We've had some really
cool deep in space with flux recently and wolf.
And we've talked about yesterday we talked about health care. So what deep in really does is allow people to run the infrastructure. What bitcoin did for the financial sector allowed people to
have a public ledger open source, you know, good consensus model, the whole nine yards,
solve the Byzantine, you know, generals issue.. You're also gonna see that with Deepin,
where these networks, as they grow and they're decentralized,
they're reporting data back,
but you're incentivized for your data usage.
And that's what it comes down to.
It really, Deepin is the very first product
to come through blockchain.
I mean, the number one question I get every day
is what does blockchain do?
And we have an answer
to that. You know, it provides bigger, faster, stronger, quicker and cheaper than conventional
web to infrastructure. So yeah, I think
Dan breaking it down and like quoting Kanye while he does it.
And wearing the Doge shirt. He's got Elon on his team now. Yeah, go, Dan. You're the man, bro. The comments are going crazy for you.
Yeah. Elon's a good dude.
Yeah. Yeah. Because Ryan knows that Dan is the man.
Ryan is the good guy as well too. Shout out to you, Ryan.
Yeah, I'm not the man. I'm just an angry old man that likes to shout at meme coins.
Oh, I was just about to say we should talk about meme coins. the 717 here. No pump pump dot fun introducing a swap. That's going
to be more than just a Solana swap. Everybody if you go on
to Google you can see crypto daily.
You know why? You guys are like people talk about what people
are doing. Nobody asked a question. Why are they doing
this? So the play here is against radium. No, it's radium.
Oh, true.
So what do they do?
So pump.fund, we're sending people to radium
once the tokens graduated,
which only a fraction of them ever did.
But radium announced that they were doing
their own pump.fund,
so that it doesn't have to go away from radium into radium.
So they wanna keep it all in the ecosystem,
essentially capture all those fees.
And pump.fund basically did the same exact thing, but backwards
and said, you know what, we're going to do the whole thing. You don't need to go to radium
anymore. So it's, it's, it's a play to ensure that, uh, they're fighting back against what
these other companies are doing. So that, that's kind of what it is.
I mean, look, I think they're fun for the casino aspect of it,. I mean, meme coins are fun for the casino aspect of it.
But I mean, look, at the end of the day,
I always say it is that I have a traditional portfolio,
as I call it, with Bitcoin, my big caps.
And there's some risky plays and things in there.
Obviously, I have Flux in there as well, a big supporter,
as everyone knows.
But meme coins to me is casino and it's for fun
and it passed some time. But as a serious investment or serious part of my strategy
in gaining wealth, it's not there. If one happened to hit off a bar tab, hey, cash out
and enjoy it or shuffle it over to Bitcoin. But, you know, long haul conviction plays.
You gotta have your couple that you believe in
that have a vision and have, you know,
trying to create good tech,
trying to push the needle, trying to be disruptive.
And then, you know, I always feel that Bitcoin
is to be a solid part of the portfolio.
Yeah.
So you're saying this cause Dan's here.
That's cool.
No, I mean, you know, how many-
You and Hattie did also say like one stream was a little bit not much. the the literally live and die in the meme coin world but dude it's wild to see that
people just don't understand what real you know worse though now I don't I don't
think that like pumped-up fun is why we can't have nice fucking things right you
know that look there is a place for me points I hate him with a passion
however you know if you're into gambling or and you're into specular
speculatory fine you can do that. People can be stupid.
I mean, there's no law against being dumb. You know, there is a law against these founders who are doing it just
specifically for financial gain. And that's what it's going to come down to.
If you guys saw yesterday, you know, the SEC ruled that proof-of-work tokens are not securities, which means we're going to be governed by the CFTC, which means we're commodity based, which is amazing and basically takes
us away from any IR that comes from the SEC.
That's not going to be the same thing for these meme coins.
Although they ruled that meme coins are considered collectibles, they're not going to go after
the individuals that are buying this shit.
They're going to go after the individuals that are minting this shit and trust me they will
Take them it's gonna take them a while
But I sat in a meeting just last week and listened to their plan
Specifically in the Trump's Trump's White House folks their plan of how they're gonna handle these projects and it's gonna be aggressive
You know so anybody out there that's into meme coins or wants to go use that,
that pump dot fun is just a red flag.
Extraordinary.
You got people that have killed themselves doing it.
You've got massive coins that are no value.
Well, we were in the Denver den and it was kind of crazy.
We didn't even want to mention that, but like people have heard that.
And obviously it's made it out there and into the point.
It went too far was when they had that little bit where people were able to live stream
and, and have their tokens.
And yeah, like I'm glad that got shut down.
I mean, they were letting anyone with half a brain would know you have to shut that down
before it was probably just a matter of days for they were going to be forced because
of what's going on on those live streams.
It's, it was insane.
So, yeah.
Did you see, did you guys see the, the 15 year old or 14 year old who
created a token on there and made like a million dollars in five minutes and
it just dumped it on everybody's head live streaming it who also was like
live and he was like, had his his little like middle fingers up and everyone. Yeah, that's probably where the majority of these meme coins are coming from man, you know, like, I'm, I'm all for. Don't get me wrong like I see owes if they were done correctly and they were done
You know in a regular regulated way I don't see a problem with that matter of fact that rather participated in an ICO and in the actual asset versus you know
There's something else so you know I
But there needs to be a better regulation around it otherwise
We're all gonna get fucked in the end because the government doesn't, you know, Trump's administration is something like we've never,
I'm 50 years old. I've never seen anything like this in my whole life. You know, I've never,
my parents have never seen anything like this in their whole life. You got to get back to like the
fifties, you know, to see, to see this much change happening overnight. So I think we're in a good spot, but we, the community,
the blockchain community is very well known
for fucking shit up, right?
They're gonna get, they're gonna get,
I'm dead serious, man.
Right, it's like, look over here.
It's like, you know, that meme where the guy's like this,
like reaching out for it and then, you know,
it's pulling it back, pulling it back.
It's what we do.
And we need to, we need to get you on that.
On the note of non-being securities, board apes, Yuga Labs got dropped, their SEC filing
as well too.
So people that like NFTs like myself and still have a bunch of 2000, 3000 useless collectibles,
you know, we're not going to jail either.
So it's a pretty good.
And you know, my, my, uh, board ape is still rugged me, you know, slowly, slowly
rugged me being coming less and less.
Probably should have cashed that out like a couple of weeks after buying it.
But I love how you said, it's just cool to see how the technology is.
What are the apes worth now?
Um, some of the mutants are worth like are worth like about like 10 to 15 Gs.
If you could get, if I could get 15 Gs, I'm out, you know, mine's probably like scraping
like nine.
I got one of the more favorable ones.
It just lost its lure.
It's lost its prominency.
Now there's just far more things that people are looking to make some money on.
New communities, new communities.
I don't want I'd hold on RWAs because that's a, that's the kind of weird ass shit that people 10 years from now are going to want.
You know what I mean?
Like it's weird because it's, it's a secular.
I've been in like a throwback sports cards, collectibles for years.
And, and when COVID hit Michael Jordan came on, I sold every Michael Jordan card in my entire collection and bought them all back a year later for about pennies on the dollar.
So it does go in cycles. I mean, I tried to buy one of the first Bitcoin ASIC miners. And they want like
money for these things they
don't do anything other than
they look cool sitting on
your show right. Yeah. So it's
like the like the action
guitars behind them there then
you know they look cool but
you know they're collected. No
I'm just kidding. It's like
that's it I'm going to start
playing. Yeah it's okay. I saw
live it I've I've seen him live. He's amazing.
Sorry, Judith. What'd you say? No, we were, remember when we were jamming out, we were at the
eat Denver and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Dan, were you out there? No, I didn't go to eat Denver. I've
been trying to go. I've been, we've got too much shit we're working on right now. I saw TZ in San the the that was a good night actually really good night. I might have been a tad shit face if you look at my eyes.
Let me just say that I chose the better photo of us to put up there
because there's a few other ones from that night.
Just as long as you look like five years younger.
Maybe it's just that maybe I don't know.
As long as the picture of me sitting
in the cigar lounge never makes its appearance. If that one comes out, then we've got problems.
There's only I might have a few pictures of you on here that I'd throw out. There's only two people
I think that have that photo myself and you. Okay.. Everyone's loving your hat action. Dude, it's one of
a kind. That's what happens when you get hooked up with the right people. Hold on a second.
That's awesome. Scott's gonna go ahead and get a better hat. That's it. I'm gonna challenge
your hat in a second. Hold on. I'm doing this just because to be honest, full disclosure,
I'm so sorry. All of my hats are in the house is cleaning them.
Actually, I enjoyed your event, man.
Now out there, the one that Davey went to, that was pretty cool.
Oh yeah.
Anything for you guys.
I'm coming out next.
I think I'm going to come to the next one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yep.
It'd be fun to be there. I think.
Are you, so you're coming to Dubai.
Oh, he's rocking the right one.
There we go.
He's rocking the right one.
There's a crispy one too.
Let's see, I still got this.
Nice.
There we go.
The only unfortunate thing about that hat, Scott,
is that it's child size.
Oh yeah, well, I mean.
I fit them well though.
So what does that tell you?
No, yeah, this is a small medium.
He fit them well.
Oh my gosh, click that. We're gonna have to tell the director to put the hat back
on scott i know right i got that wild hair
well just be happy that you have hair the difference between a good looking old
man and some old you know uh full is just hair so
enjoy it enjoy it dan we also force also force Scott now to wear clothes instead of just like limp out of bed and jump
in his robe and just jump on stream with us. So, you know, he got dressed, you know, looking
like a, I watched that guy at a bar, get dressed in his robe and come out and do a live stream. Hey, where it got? That happened.
That was in Austin too. It was pretty hot.
Somebody like tapped me on the shoulder. They said,
what's up with the guys in the robes? I'm like, fuck, I don't know, man.
Just leave me alone.
I don't know.
Just leave me alone.
He's a monk.
And then the other thing that happens is the guy, our friend Doug, with the fur coat
then goes and invades the stream.
So now you have two people on a rooftop in Austin
with like a hundred degrees in robes
and then a guy with a fur coat.
So I'm sure everyone on that roof was just like,
yeah, they felt that they were probably at like a,
I don't know, mentally challenged.
I'm behind him.
Basically shorts and a t-shirt
with the fan blowing directly on me with the water
misters going sweat my ball sack off and here's Scott in a fucking robe.
I was like, what is going on?
Yeah, no, no, no robe or in the morning ones, although it probably would be more
suiting for a morning stream, but it's all good.
Now I just walk around.
I got a real thing we're picking on on you Scott. Oh, oh, I'm used to this. Yeah,
we are just real real quick. I got a question for you guys. What are some of the projects
that you guys have been looking at and where's the what's the value adds with them?
I'm trying to get doodles more involved with deep in man.
Like he's your.
Yeah, go ahead.
The only one I know is like, who them one is like unused, um, internet on your phone.
So, you know, a lot of people have like these unlimited plans and
don't really use a lot of data.
I heard that's like a, you know, a decent way to make a couple bucks.
And then this other one where you're, you're driving and then another one where you're walking.
I think the step in one might be the walking one where it's just kind of like collecting
data, always just collecting data.
So I'm not sure what all these data points, how they convert into a monetary gain or anything
like that.
It's difficult for me to keep up to all the new ones. A lot of these, these are promises
and you know their coin is not, it doesn't have any liquidity behind it. So you're farming
all these tokens that are kind of useless. So yeah, exactly.
I'll bring you into the light side. Don't worry doodles. Instead of doing that thing
with your phone, you can just get you set up with a mask node
and get you a real decentralized VPN
that actually pays you with a live token.
That's not rugged people.
But damn, there are just so much stuff out there.
And I'm so appreciative of what you said about deepens.
Most people are just, it's just a scam, dude.
Like people are not generating revenue
and they call themselves the deepens. Like, no, you're a policy scheme. That's what this cycle I think is going to
change. I think things are going to go more from speculation on all these different projects
and they're going to have to produce revenue. And especially as we get regulation and things like that,
I just don't see how any could have any staying power
unless you end up generating revenue.
I just, you know, it's like a basic equation to me.
And it's generate revenue.
And it's wild to me, like, don't get me wrong,
like there are plenty of companies out there
that are not profitable,
but there's a big difference with being profitable and talking about web two
as well, being profitable and not generating revenue. Cause it's okay sometimes for you
to not be profitable as long as you can actually show that you're generating revenue and you
have a plan of actually getting there when you don't
for eight years. That was for eight years. Exactly. The unfortunate thing that we're
seeing in deep end, and I don't know if you guys have seen this or not,
is you have projects that claim that they're Deepin,
and then they say they have income,
but what they're doing is using their own assets
to basically deploy on their own network.
So, I mean, we have, there's a big ass project right now
out there, and that's exactly what they're doing.
And, you know, they're manipulating the end users
because they think that it's actually
making money in revenue when in reality it's them that's basically doing, you know, their deployments and so on and so
forth. So, I mean, you know, what it comes down to is, I agree, I think we're moving into the utility phase of, of crypto. And
I think that you're going to, there's going to be a massive have and have-nots between these projects. They can't survive because they haven't had any strategic planning at the beginning of them.
They're fixing a problem that's being fixed by seven other different projects.
They're siloed in what they're building.
You know, Doodles mentioned the, you know, the, I think it was Hive is the one that does the mapping.
That doesn't mean anything if their infrastructure is still running on, you know, Web 2 legacy infrastructure. So, you know, most projects are going to have to be forced,
something like Flux to maintain that decentralization. So you really have two things. Are you decentralized
and do you make fucking money? If you do those two things, then you're true deep end, in
my book, at least.
A lot of people claim to be decentralized just because they're in this space or something, but they're not really decentralized at all. All right. I had a guy the other day trolling
the shit out of me and you know about his D-Pen and I said, you know, he's like, this is why we're,
you know, decentralized. I said, dude, data collection, you're collecting data, you know,
essentially. Where's that meeting? Where's that storm? Well, we have my counsels
Yeah, okay. Yeah, you're not fucking deep-ended come back when you're I mean in reality, you know
That's how 99% of these projects are running right now
And you know, I got a good question for you
Correct them for you.
Let's go ahead, action.
To Greg man from Akash because four years ago
To Greg, man, from Akash, because four years ago,
he was one of the few people like you, Dan,
that were going around literally saying
that exact same thing, like, are you on AWS?
Then you need to shut up about being decentralized.
That's just not real.
Greg's a good dude.
I like that project.
I like Greg.
As a matter of fact, we work on some regulatory pieces
together that we're trying to put forward
with Satoshi Action
Fund specifically to protect D-Pen and get us a regulatory sandbox in the states that
we can actually develop and then not feel like we're going to get the shit slapped out
of us by every damn agency out there with three letter variations.
So we're in a really cool cool pivotal time right now. I agree. And that's like standing alongside people like you that actually
have haven't changed their narratives over time.
And like you're still preaching the same thing that you were way
back when it doesn't change.
Like that stability is what crypto needs people that actually
knows how this stuff is supposed to work and are fighting for
it. Like that that to me is everything. But Doodles, you had a question.
Yeah, I wanted to ask Dan, like where would people find
or like what kind of like index
or rank some of these deep in projects?
I know that there's other platforms like DAX screeners
and stuff like that where people would be looking
for meme tokens and stuff like that.
So what resources for like an individual
that maybe wants to get involved
into a deep end project before it goes sex? Can they find it on IDOs? Can they find it? Where would
they be looking for them for the unfortunate thing? The majority of these aggregators that
bring data back are favored to one project over another. I mean, we still haven't been listed on
the web three project page, you know, and we literally built fucking
web web three. We built it right and and and we're not on it. So
then, you know, the best thing I would say doodles is to check,
you know, look at the project, look at the market cap, look at
the tokenomics, look at the team because the team is important.
And by the way, you have all these projects. Yeah, we just
do this thing where we're always to the bright and shiny. Everybody's now like,
oh, we're made in the US. Are you? You know what I mean? Are you really made in the USA?
So I think, unfortunately, I don't think there's a silver bullet for finding the deep in projects
that make sense. Spend time on spaces, listen to what people are, you know, if they're
coming into your, you know, of course, but I was saying like,
maybe like a DAP radar, like, is there anything that like,
people can kind of scan or like, I mean, I would think like, on
the on the basic level, if you even went to like a coin market
cap, or one of those, and you probably have your your
searchables, there's probably a D pin or something along that,
a category where you could at least get a group of,
you know, some of your bigger players
or your main players that are on there.
Probably start out.
The biggest thing that comes up is ether scan showing like.
No, I'll give you a real scan.
Io techs, I expect a little bit of payment later.
Go to D pin, scan that IO.
Code action, sorry.
No, it's free guys.
It's free.
This is the one like really nice thing that Deepin skins
actually do, what do you call it?
IOTechs actually do for the Deepin crowd,
just aggregating all these Deepin projects.
That's really nice.
Yeah.
But again-
Yeah, I think you'll see some better aggregators
coming out of it. Okay, so I can see some tokens.
Yeah, I could just, yeah.
So just to get a feel with Helium's there,
Grasse's there.
What I will say is pay attention
to the numbers outside of this.
You can use something like this
and any other platform as a discovery point, I guess you can say, because sometimes that the numbers outside of this. You can use something like this and any other platform as a discovery point,
I guess you can say,
because sometimes that the numbers,
they don't really translate into how profitable they are,
how good things actually,
because like you take a look at the Helium IoT
in comparison to GeoNet.
GeoNet has almost 15,000 devices.
Helium IoT has 433,000 devices. Helium has, IoT has 440 and 33,000.
I'm making money hand over fist with GeoNet
and Helium hasn't made me money in years.
You've been talking about GeoNet for a while.
Yeah, I think Helium is probably one of the
deep end projects that will succeed in the end.
I mean, because they're creating a business revenue model
on top of it.
So, I mean, that's why Fox has been so successful
is we've not constrained ourselves
to one particular blockchain project
or, you know, legacy, you know,
web two versus legacy web three.
We'll work with all of them, you know what I mean?
And I think that, you know,
as helium continues to kind of keep growing,
and I'm not championing for them and, you know I don't own any, but I do, I do like the concept
and actually flux is going to work with them to a certain extent. So that would be kind of cool to
see that happen as well. Is it still worth picking up one of those like two $300 miners or?
No, no, I'll send you, I have like over 3000 of them sitting around. the this really cool point. I got my bottom signal last week. So, you know, I have a scientific
process of analyzing the market. Because before I was, you know,
Fox is the only project I work on, but I'm pretty good at, you know, the market and understanding
trends and so on and so forth. But one biggest trend for me is when you start to see crypto influencers who were shilling a six for the
past three years, or these, you know, these fucking things that don't do anything, these paperweights. And now all of a
sudden, they come out and they're like, Oh, my God, a six are horrible for projects, you know, it's like, fucking shit. So,
you know, now it's everything starting to make that turn again, where people are, you know, I look for the influencers, real the you do have helium IOT, but you also have helium mobile as a separate tab.
Healing basically, I wanna say- So the helium mobile is exactly what I was looking at.
The miner's only 260.
The mobile one, yeah, mobile's worth it,
but you have to deploy them in the US right now.
You can't deploy them in Thailand, it won't work there.
But that's the thing, like they split it.
Like that was a wise decision on their part
because their revenue for the IOT side
Which they have almost five hundred thousand online miners right now
They're making three thousand dollars a month
You just want this one $250 device sure contain flux
I'm just curious if we're even added
if we're even added.
If you're not, I hate some of these, these aggregators like coin market cap as well too.
if you're not
They miss out a lot of the projects that the data is just totally inaccurate.
It's all right.
By its basis.
Can you search for it?
Is there a search on that?
That's what I'm trying to see.
View map AI liquidity.
I'm part of the screen coverage.
I went AI one time.
I'm curious about that. the the and Ethereum. They have us listed as Server and Ethereum. All right.
Well, I guess I got to send an email to those guys.
I'll do you one better.
I'll DM those guys and make sure it gets fixed for you.
Yeah, we should have AI.
We should have Web3.
We should have cloud.
We should have servers. I mean have Cloud we should have servers. I mean that's all on there. Did you guys know?
This is a little fact that I found out last night
And I'm gonna share it with you guys because I think it's really cool
Did you know flux is larger than than all of the top 10 deep in projects in terms of?
Storage compute resources CPU cores were bigger than all of them combined.
So my guys sat down and they took all the statistics
from all the different D-Pen projects
and put them together here,
and we're like 65% bigger than all of them combined.
Not even close.
Including helium in those big ones.
Helium has a lot of access points, you know, because you have to look at what
you're doing. Anyone can deploy an access point, plug it into your, you know,
helium's are a little bit more, you know, if you're doing it the right way for
their 5g, whatever the fuck it is, um, you know, it's a little bit more work,
but you know, you know, access points don't really translate to use it.
And that's, that's, that's kind of where you play
Yeah, I'm in the room you could be in the brush in Thailand up here. Where are you coming from dad?
I'm in the States, Pennsylvania
Nice
Yeah, we're we actually yeah, I can announce it here too because
What the hell?
I love breaking news.
Yeah. Breaking news.
Actually, you probably already heard it yesterday because I think you were on the
deep end space, but you know, uh, flux, the open source, you know, fork of Bitcoin
computational network with its own consensus mechanism, anybody can build on
that one.
We have a company called influx, which basically does, you
know, onboarding of enterprise individuals, small businesses, websites, you name it. That's what Influx does. And we're
pleased to announce that we're moving to Miami, Florida. So we're heading down to Miami. We're actually going to have a
headquarters in the states. We want to get ourselves in a position where we're going to align to be champions for D-Pen and Web 3 in the States.
And a lot of the healthcare providers we started working with as well, they're all here in the States.
And unfortunately, we have this, maybe not unfortunately, fortunately, could be either way.
We have this kind of mantra where U.S. companies want to work with U.S. companies.
And especially now you're starting to see it with Trump. There's a real push to keep everything stateside.
So for us, one of the very first questions we got,
we were talking to a Fortune 100 company
and they said, where are you located?
And that was a hit for us almost immediately.
You know what I mean?
Because they want to see US base.
So it's like counterintuitive.
For four years, they did everything but crucify us and now if we leave they're gonna come after
You know what I mean? It's insane. I can't even believe it
But Florida definitely one of the better states or best states leading so far then and I'd say Texas
Maybe it's probably up there as well, but that's awesome
There is there are five people in Houston that we know of
There is there are five people in Houston that we know of
Last year. Oh you weren't on this you weren't on the space this morning. We determined now we've got it up to about 10
Love it. That's awesome. Ten people that that that mess with crypto in Houston. Oh
the the He's built like a brick wood house. When he comes up to you, you feel like you got a bodyguard immediately.
This green you're joining these guys over here
But, you know, I'll tell you what, dude is smart as could be.
He understands, you know, places to get in, how to work the regulatory system.
He was the one that championed for us to move to Florida.
I'm not going to lie.
I mean, he was a big reason why we picked Miami.
You know, he lobbied hard to get us down there. And in the end, it was Texas or Miami and
or, you know, in Austin or something like that in Texas. And well, we can go to Austin or I can go
to where I'm at the beach. I'll take the beach any day, you know. That's why I came down to Thailand.
No, if you have people there, especially that are in the line, it makes more sense than,
you know, and definitely he's a great guy.
He's a super nice guy and awesome advocate there.
So yeah, no, I think that's the right choice for sure.
Yeah, you guys should go check out his content because I agree with action.
He hasn't got the love that he needs and he's out there being advocates for us every single freaking
day. So let's you know, those are the content providers we need, you know, and I'm not trying
to float, you know, make actions head huge. But I know when I go to his content, that
I'm going to get his opinion, plus the facts that come with it. And he's going to he is
going to admit at the end of it, whether he likes or he doesn't like it or if any you know if there's some things about that it's very transparent.
Might tell you to take some triactin too.
Oh yeah there is that.
You said that to BitBoy Crypto got him on got him on live interview.
He didn't do too well after that interview uh. He kind of went on a downward spiral.
Oh yeah.
He peaked by me, right?
Scott, breaking news for you.
Is he still alive?
Yeah, he's...
We have 11 people.
He's mostly there, Dan.
When I say mostly there, physically.
I don't know where his head had his head spaces at, but
he's going to be straight up on.
So if they made a Netflix documentary about him, I would absolutely watch it.
Okay.
Satan worshipers, prostitutes, you know, playing who would play him in a Netflix special. This, see now, this is good conversation.
This is hard.
Yeah, we need somebody who's a really good actor.
I don't know why for some reason I do.
To replicate his live streams, you know,
when he slams his fists down
and he's like all crazy and shit,
it'd have to be somebody who's really.
I don't know why I'm defaulting back to,
what's the guy's name I'm thinking back to an
old movie full metal jacket the the one who who offs himself in in the bathroom
oh he also did a bunch of like law and orders and stuff like that I could see
him getting into really good character for that. How about Jonah Hill? Jonah Hill would be a great-
That would be amazing.
That would.
It would.
Wait, wait, like-
I think if there was some humor into it and shit like that,
you know what I mean?
Thin Jonah Hill or like two years back?
No, he has to agree to change,
like to go back to being way, way heavier
and then lose the weight
and get wilder throughout the movie.
I think that's how it should be played.
Yeah, I mean, like even just like have the story build up
to the karate combat scenario,
the influencer fight league.
Yeah, I mean, like it would be so good.
Like people wouldn't even believe that it was true.
She was like, too fucked up to be real.
I would totally watch up to be real.
That that would I would totally watch and definitely be good. And
there's there's a cat there's a great cast that could be put together for that.
Oh, I completely agree. I've been I've been throwing some
shorts about from Ben on the channel. It's been doing really
well. People love the drama man man. Like, yeah, a reality show of sorts.
People love stuff.
It'd be hilarious.
And he looks interesting as hell. In this current state, you know, he's looked better in the past
and his story is just an intriguing one. So I think people, you know, have obviously seen the
time change from 2017 and 2020. And when he was a lot more prominent,
now it's a lot more new influencers,
a lot more new communities, YouTubers.
I just love the fact that you can go on Tenor now
and see a bunch of like Ben gifts.
I use these on Telegram all the time.
The one with the oxygen mask is amazing. Oh, this one here. I love this one. That is my favorite. and
the the I think that's the funniest part. Like we were alive for a lot of these days and like remembering like, dude, this is ridiculous.
Remember that?
What was the vibe there in the arena, man?
The dance one?
No, I said Scott was there like obviously for, you know, the IFC, the first one as it kicked
off.
Yeah.
How was it?
It was, it was crazy because in the sense, first of all, we're
Mexico City. And the way they started off, like the first influencer fight was not like a very
good fight. It was like clumsy and like, fallen all over each other and stuff. So like, it the vibe
was kind of interesting. But it was still a lot of that by the time once bit boys fight got on they just looked like he looked like a rabid animal just like everyone started going nuts
and like pounding on the pit and like it was uh it was pretty crazy it was it was it was definitely
a good one it's probably one of the better ones yeah almost as good as your fight doodles
almost no no honestly big boy crypto was so frigging
entertaining, dude, it went back and forth.
It was something to be historic in memory.
And people can appreciate that, you know,
people will appreciate that for ages, but, you know,
we'll see what happens next.
Crypto Twitter is always exciting.
The next thing as far as the fight to come up is
when we go out to token, we'll have a Genzio desk again. the the six, seven in the morning. Hmm. Can either try to go to sleep or can get more cocaine.
He was a trip, man. He was a trip. There won't be anybody like him ever again, but I think BitBoy go down in blockchain history is the lunatic side of it all.
Well, BitBoy was saying, you know, he's been saying and tweeting about how he knows who
killed him and all sorts of stuff. So the plot. The acquisitions are just acquisitions, but they are interesting to hear, you know?
There's definitely some crazy, crazy. It's like when you're YouTube channel
is hitting those streams and your thumbnails are not working, the action you tell them, like
you just start, you start spinning some like stories. I was about to say with all the keywords
that we've put out there,
like this stream is gonna get definitely canceled.
So y'all should be sharing your liking and sharing this.
Actions like, you know what?
We're gonna decide this one.
We're gonna push it out on my YouTube as well.
And there we go.
So we just, no one held back.
We're like, let's get your YouTube.
Twitter doesn't matter.
I mean, you know. Twitter likes exciting content. That's what I've noticed.
And I've seen a lot of regulated, like anybody playing copyrighted music or anything. It's just
whatever. It's a free for all. Yeah. It's all right, gentlemen. I think I'm going to go back
to work. So let me jump on action. Oh, thanks for the bet.
See you guys.
I'll love to meet Dan in person. You've always been really big on, uh, flux there.
Yep. He's like, yeah, you should see my wallet.
I have a, I have a good about a flux. They can say that. And, uh, yeah, you should see my wallet. I have a good amount of flux. They can say that and yeah, no, as he checks his balance.
Dude, this is both in Web 2, Web 3.
Like it doesn't matter.
Like show me your finances and show me where you spend your time.
I can tell you a lot about a person just with those two things.
Like give me that calendar and give me that
checkbook or your crypto wallet. Now, I can tell you so much
about somebody.
And I'm not I mean, I'm not just stacking some of my bags. I'm
not, you know, selling that. Like I said, I have conviction
plays, I know where they're going, I know what they're
doing. And, you know, that's where I put my money and energy
behind. And we're gonna, we're gonna do well in time, you know, I'm not looking for like, tomorrow, where I put my money and energy behind and we're gonna do well in time.
You know, I'm not looking for like tomorrow.
If I was looking for something instant like that, then I would have gone the route of
trying to work on TA and being more of a trader and being, you know, I just do the DCA and
I into my conviction plays into Bitcoin and then out of boredom.
Like I said, we do some gambling on the meme coins to have some fun,
but yeah, you know.
All right, real quick,
we're getting close to the top of the hour.
I wanna make sure everybody knows that
we are doing these streams three times a week on Mondays,
Wednesdays and Fridays at 9 p.m. Pacific.
Right, yay.
Yeah, cause this is not just a one off thing,
guys. Like I know that this show might get canceled on my
channel later on. Thanks, Dan. But we're gonna keep it going.
We're gonna keep it rolling. People are very protective of
their channels. I don't think that's wise. I think that you
should be able to provide the best possible information to
people regardless of who's on right? Like people talk about about like, Oh yeah, I want the cloud for this.
I want to make sure that I'm, I don't care, dude.
Like a bunch of these streams already.
I'm like, I can't make it.
And I'm just like, Scott, you're in charge.
You're taking the lead.
Um, was I available potentially that I show up into the stream halfway through
just to make sure that these guys got airtime?
Yes.
Cause it's, it ain't about me. I about making sure that we're uplifting as many good people
in the space as possible and giving them the platform to share information with all of you.
That's kind of my heart behind this whole thing is, you know, it's, you know,
Doodle stays up late in Thailand in a stream. It's a fun podcast. You know,
we do it on Mondays to kick off the week. We have like a hump day to just touch base,
get people through, you
know, some of the dullness of the market and choppiness. And then it's like the crypto
never sleeps. So, you know, there's probably the gents up here, like, in all sorts of time
zones, if I show you my time zone calendar right now, you'd be pretty amazed of the international
things. I got bank hot. Where is the camera? Can you see that?
All the time zones. That's what I have. We got Legos, we got Vancouver, New Delhi, Vegas, Toronto,
Bangkok. Dude, we are in different times. I got your time zone on there. Action as well, man.
That's the thing is on my stream deck, one of the pages has the clocks for all the major time zones.
Like I have eight different time zones
so that I could just look down and see it all times because just we're talking in with people
all over the world. Like look at your 12 hours. Crypto has always been so international and I know
as like a founder sometimes I go to bed and then people are GMing me in the middle of the night
and I'll forget to turn off those notifications on X and just wake up with a thousand vibrations, you know?
Wait a minute.
Forget to turn off notifications.
This back guy right here.
Action this way, right this way.
That guy right there.
Action doesn't like to turn off notifications on his phone at night and likes to put his
phone on a table with wooden legs right to the wooden floor so that everyone in the house could hear every notification
every three seconds from like midnight to seven in the morning.
And I was so, yeah.
And you slept through all of it.
I was so dead that it didn't bother me.
I was just like, yeah, cool.
Cool.
I kept thinking at first it was my phone and I'm just like, it's not going off.
I'm like, I know it's action. I was like, but it's all right. No, that's what happens in, you know, around the clock notifications, Telegram, Twitter, you name it. So, but
I introduced you to, to Serenity.
Yes.
Cool. Yeah, that's now home crypto. That's his YouTube channel. Really good following. So is it part of the community?
Communities, man. Like that's a cool thing in the space too that I really, really enjoy is knowing that there are good people out there, regardless of what's actually going on.
Like you can rely on them to be there, right? It's people that care enough to be present, regardless of the situations in the market, regardless of token prices or anything.
You've got to show up.
You've got to show up. Like that's to show up like that. That's exactly it.
So doodles.
That's the biggest thing.
Honestly, sorry to cut that.
No, that's the biggest thing I think is you have to show up, whether it's in spaces or
events or people invite you or even local meetups or whatever.
Just being present and being out there and trying to be part of the conversation or absorb
or learn.
You start meeting lots of other people and, and, you
know, it helps with you able to do your own research by just being present. You're, you're
learning different avenues and different ways of getting that info. So just show up.
You're getting different insights of it. You're getting different insights on information
from different perspectives. I'd eat Denver. There was like all sorts of communities and
uh, blockchains there that you wouldn't necessarily
think that they would be supporting Ethereum.
But it was nice to see everybody there and you know, just connecting with people like
Arbitrum, Flow, Optimism, you know, there was a lot of great people out there.
ZKSync, people are scaling operation and this is a good time to feel really bullish on the
tech.
So yeah, man, it was an awesome space and I'm happy that we had a little deep in conversation
with Dan.
He's the man from flux.
So definitely put me on some new game today.
So can be following up with my deep in scan.
Action.
Of course.
Yeah, there are some good people.
Yeah, look into dude, look into flux too, because with the way prices are and just knowing like, you know, how the
quality of Dan and everyone over there.
He said bigger than all 10 combined.
Like, yeah, so right now it's like, he didn't even punch.
He said it on camera and he looked into the camera too.
I'm like, Dan's the figure man.
He's wearing a dope shirt.
The prices.
He's going to change the game.
Like there, that's one, one project I see long run.
That's going to be very well and do, do very well and be very successful.
And to see how the token price where it is right now, um, and how the market
is kind of pushed it there, I think that it's just like a no brainer.
Yeah.
So this is my not financial advice, but that's just my opinion.
And you know, like I said, I I've been, I've, I've been holding, but regardless,
you know, you do your own research, look into it, doodles.
There's a lot of great deep in projects out there.
And honestly, if there's any ones that you have questions about on that list,
you ask action because he knows all of all of them and actually channeling
different shorts that he puts out.
He's got, there's lots of great info.
He's well plugged into that.
I'll also say like some projects are really fun, exciting, and the
founders are a hoes.
So I will tell you to steer away from which ones you don't support because
the founders are making pyramid schemes.
Yeah.
It gets interesting.
Let me tell you, like anytime you start dealing with hardware,
there's a lot of opportunity to make a lot of money on the backs of people. So yeah, somebody
mentioned blocks in here. So there's a lot of people that got taken advantage of with blocks.
Some people never made their money back. I still have a few blocks in the warehouse actually. So
So, yeah, it's you got to make sure you're looking out for the right things in a space.
yeah, it's you got to make sure you're looking out for the right things in a space.
Scott, any final words?
Happy Friday, everyone. Have a good day. Sure, everyone who's watching is out there grinding,
trying to figure out the next project or where should they should maybe DCA during the market
times like this. But, you know, take some time to, you know, enjoy the day, enjoy the weekend. And yeah, if you ever got any questions, comments, you can always
feel free to drop them in any of the chats or on any of our, our Twitters and we'll link
up with you and always huge shout out to Gen Zio for, for hosting us and this stream that
goes down three days a week. Yeah.
It's definitely Monday.
I will say if you guys are on Action Crypto,
like that video and make sure you're dropping some comments
as soon as the stream ends.
Cause then we get, you know, the juices rolling in
instead of having to have people die again.
Exactly. We're going to have a bunch,
a bunch of things going on and a lot more people.
We had Scott with a prop base hat.
Shout out prop base flux hat.
Now I got a Zanium hat on today.
Shout out.
Oh, you got had their own there.
Wow. I didn't even see the had their own one, Scott.
I should have. I know I should have had their super bullish on them.
And they had a great conference.
I like their conference and everyone who I meet over there
or who's building over there involved with them is awesome.
And we always have fun at Karate Combat
and they're on Hedera.
So yeah, it's gonna be awesome to see
what's to come with them.
And that's why there's certain swag and merch
and things like that or whatever you wanna call it
that I get at conferences and a lot of it I don't wear.
It's piled up or it's in a drawer or whatever.
But then there's the stuff that I really do like to wear.
Like obviously our Gen Z shirts.
This, this hoodie is sweet.
I love it.
It's nice.
And, uh, yeah, so, yeah, I got to support those that I, that I love to
is mask, uh, doodles, the one that I told you about the decentralized VPN.
Love those guys.
It's a community project.
That's the best part of it.
It's not like one huge founder that has all the tokens that
doesn't, it doesn't work that way.
It's, it's really a new project.
Pretty awesome.
Um, but now that you've been here, now that we already told people to, you
know, like share and do all that good stuff. I got a question for you
How likely are you to join, you know RWAs and D pins after the short conversation that we had?
You want to survive you gotta build Thanks so much for joining us today Hi. How are you doing? Ladies and gentlemen. We're back at Gen Z at Nuki House.
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