Thank you. Jim Jim Thank you. Music Thank you. Music Thank you. Thank you. okay guys okay guys let's check this out do we have a mic mic check mic check can you guys hear
me can you hear me well yeah i can hear you well tommy thank you thank you for being here mate
good morning good morning how are you yeah i'm good I'm good. I'm good. It's a beautiful Friday. Friday morning here in the States.
I know it's afternoon or evening there where you're at. So, yeah, excited for a good show.
Yeah, 100%. It's great to have you here. It's been a couple of wonderful weeks in the space, of course.
That's what we've all seen.
But there is a lot of exciting things cooking with both Gonna Make It, both with the Bonds, both with Halodex.
So I'm very happy to have this conversation with you today.
But I see that we still have a very small crowd.
So typically we have between 50 and 100 people, sometimes even more. So everybody that's listening right now, make sure that you
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Because I do think that what Tommy is going to talk about today is very interesting. And we're
going to do a giveaway amongst the listeners. So make sure that you get the right amount of people here, call your buddies and let's
tell the world about what we're going to do with Helodex and going to make it.
So yeah, Tommy, how have you been made?
Surviving the bear in that sense?
Yeah, market's crazy, huh?
I'm sure we can all relate to that.
I think we're in the longest bear market for all coins that we've ever seen. So yeah, interesting times for sure. And then of course, with all the
AI stuff, very interesting to see that too. I mean, all in all, I like to have that attitude of just
being an attitude of gratitude. So, you know, even though the market is not good right now,
I think that sooner or later it'll turn up. And, you know, meanwhile, the market is not good right now, I think that sooner or later it'll turn up.
And, you know, meanwhile, we just we push forward, rain or shine.
So I think in this market, what doesn't kill us makes us stronger.
That is that is 100 percent true.
And, you know, the the developments are going this fast.
It's it's pretty amazing to see.
And, you know, it goes fast in every single single way.
Right. So you have AI, you have like Bitcoin, you know, it goes fast in every single way, right?
So you have AI, you have like Bitcoin,
you have to further around Binance now,
you have God knows what is coming up.
It's, you know, like the midterms are coming up
and there has been this insane discussion about like,
is the four-year cycle going to end?
Is it going to be different this time
or is it going to be the same?
Unfortunately, it seems to be a little bit, or is it going to be the same?
Unfortunately, it seems to be a little bit the same, but that doesn't matter.
That doesn't matter for us because the OGs within our community, they know this,
is that whenever there is a buyer market, all of a sudden there is hello,
and we create our own little bull market.
And the way we do that, and I'm not joking about this,
because the last bear market, we did a 50X in the middle of the bear.
And the reason for that is we are very good in re-innovating ourselves.
And in that sense, about the last bear market, we did Killer Whales. We announced Killer Whales, the television show.
Tommy, you were one of the first people coming there.
You were on the first season.
So it's a pleasure to meet up with you a couple of years later
around the world and learn what you guys are doing.
And we're driving innovation again this year.
And it's really cool to see what you guys are doing with the bonds.
Should we discuss a little bit what we're doing with the bonds this year?
Because I know that you pitched it on Killowell Season 1, and now it's live.
And the cool thing is you guys are launching it together with us.
Tell us a little bit more about what happened between pitching on Killowell Season 1,
these LP bonds, and where we're at right now.
Yeah, it's a beautiful synergy.
Yeah, so back then, so I've kind of followed the path that I see a lot of projects going down.
You know, we originally created an L1, and we were very security-minded and whatnot,
and I think that'll become more and more valuable over time still
I am not sure I am rugging or Tommy is rugging.
Give me a thumbs up if you can hear me and not Tommy.
And so we started the marketplace, which was quite a road and a lot to build.
And when I was on the show, we were getting close to like a V1.
It wasn't quite done yet at that time.
And then, you know, the NFT market's just still very kind of underwater,
which I think it sooner or later will have a recovery.
But as we were going along the road too,
one thing I was working on the whole time was, you know, I was like,
all right, we need to have killer tokenomics because no matter what project you have if you don't have good tokenomics if your chart's not
going up then just this crypto space is so loud there's so much noise there's a new shiny toy
every week and if you're not it's like it's like if you're not growing you're dying sort of thing.
So I was like, all right, so we're going to have a great product, but we're also going to have really good tokenomics to go along with this.
And I literally thought about it for years.
And I worked a lot on the tokenomics.
I worked with Mark here in the audience, bounced a lot of ideas off him, and he shared ideas
with me as we were going along it.
And then it was actually when I like really refining what I was doing
that I kind of stumbled into this very powerful avenue of NFTs, which nobody has done.
And we already had built the marketplace.
We already had the NFT foundation because you got, it's like kind of like building a
mall and then we repurposed the mall.
This was like kind of beginning of last year that we did this.
And really shifted from a standard NFT marketplace
into an NFT marketplace that has been kind of changed
into something that focuses on creating the foundation
And I'll explain a little more about how that,
what goes into that and everything.
But yeah, it was a lot of refinement. And so what we have now is we have a platform for LP bonds. LP
stands for liquidity positions. And basically LP positions are NFTs, which we have an NFT
marketplace. This is how the puzzle pieces kind of came together. And we're like, wow, we can
actually create a marketplace for tradable liquidity and
more so tradable locked liquidity because liquidity is the name of the game. I mean,
liquidity is expensive in the space, very expensive actually. And to be able to provide a platform to
encourage, incentivize people to lock the liquidity and to have the freedom.
The freedom, the flexibility.
Users on our platform are not locked in.
The liquidity is locked, but it's tradable.
So, yeah, let me just pause there.
I know I covered a lot of ground there real quick,
but, yeah, that's a bit of the journey we've been on.
Yeah, it's pretty insane to see this, right?
I think that you've seen a lot of
these projects. I still remember doing the scouting for Killuaal Season 1. And I truly believe that
out of the 100 projects I spoke back then, maybe 70 are gone. And then the 30 other ones,
some of them are actually acquired by other companies. But like yours, Tommy, you guys just reinvent
yourselves. And that is so cool to see. And that's what we're searching for in these founders
on the show. And it's double cool to now see that we're working together on bringing this
LP bonds structure to the market. And I know that you've already touched on DeFi and DeFi
liquidity, and that it's very hard to come around.
And, you know, within the Hello community, we've been pivoting very hard into a users first and founders first DeFi ecosystem where the DAX and the trading mechanism all comes into play.
And for us, it's actually a very natural evolution of what we're building on the media side.
It's very natural for us to build a product that actually rewards everyone that makes use of it.
And that means people that hold the hello token because they can stake that token all of a sudden and they have an organic yield.
For founders like yourself, it's really interesting to see how you can really make money from your liquidity because liquidity is not only hard to get
liquidity is also the one thing that almost no project really monetizes the only people that
are monetizing this are the big exchanges or the og daxes they're making all the money from the
trading fees and i think it's really cool to see that we're now switching gears in that sense and
making sure that you know the
projects actually have the upside and that I think it will save a lot of charts if projects don't
need to sell the tokens to pay for stuff and then with the hopes that the token price goes up and
then token price goes up and they need to sell again right so we're breaking that uh loop um
the so what I'm trying to say is that the hello community has been getting a lot of like attention
from anything that is defy so they kind of now understand that they are actually being rewarded
for any type of volume on the market um but what you guys are bringing with the bonds is actually
i'd say like a like a like a like an lp staking on steroids, right?
Because if I get it right, Tommy,
is that people can create a bond.
They bring in some hello and some GMI,
and that bond, that liquidity is being used to fuel the trading volume.
And with these fees, the bond becomes more valuable.
And the cool thing about this is that the bond,
the liquidity that you bring in is locked so that the project has access to liquidity for a long
time. But that means also that you're going to make fees for a very long time. But what you guys
have built is that at the moment in time, and you do want to exit that position, you can just sell off the NFT and people will probably pay at least the
money that you put into the LP, but they are also going to make money over this bond for the next
couple of years. Is that like the summary of how you guys do it? Yeah, you got it. And so here's the thing too. Yes. So like sometimes I ask myself,
how has no one created this before? Because it's a really powerful thing. And when I analyze that,
I've kind of found that it's not easy to replicate what we've done. I mean, first of all,
you have to have a whole NFT market foundation to do this. And there's not that many NFT
marketplaces out there. And then you have to, there's so much we've done. I was just talking to Mark last week.
I'm like, man, I don't want to make our system any more complicated
because it's already pretty advanced.
What we created is, you know, not to do my own horn,
but it's truly some next level stuff.
We have liquidity infrastructure.
We have an upgrade system where you can upgrade the bonds to four levels.
We'll talk about that more later on here.
But yeah, the essence of it is actually kind of simple when you think about it.
It's like, okay, well, liquidity is clearly a valuable asset, right?
I mean, competing chains are paying 60% to 90% per year for liquidity.
So clearly there's value in liquidity.
But then the problem that comes with that is,
so what happens to so many chains we've seen is they provide these incentives for the liquidity,
or DEXs or whoever else, or the coconut itself provides the incentive for the liquidity.
And then what people do is they take that yield that they're getting and then they dump it.
And so it ends up becoming a very expensive
way to acquire liquidity. Almost in a way how airdrops can be an expensive way to acquire
users. So that's kind of the status quo that we're dealing with. You look around in the space,
that's what you got. Other DEXs, other chains, everything. They're offering incentives for
liquidity, but it's ultimately costing them. It's costing them. They're bleeding out in the token price.
So that's where our innovation... Yes, the basic of our innovation is, or part of our innovation
is we take that yield and let it accrue in the bond. So in TradFi, this is similar to a zero
coupon bond. A zero coupon bond is one where the yield accrues in the bond and is paid out at the end of
And our bond maturity is 20 years.
By the way, the first thing when everyone says when they hear 20 years is, oh, that's
But the point is, you're not locked in for 20 years.
The user is not locked in.
They have maximum flexibility.
They're not locked in for a day, a week, a month, nothing.
There's a lot of protocols that lock you in for 28 days or three months or something with us there's maximum flexibility you
can sell the bond a minute after you buy it and it has the same mechanisms as nft yeah and and and
and that is so interesting right because i do see what you mean just just today i don't know why but
i got like into a little bit of like uh like a crypto
twitter fight with some uh kadano people and i basically commented to to them like the problem
with a chain like kadano is if you don't have uh tvl if you don't have people staking the tokens or
creating d5 pools or liquidity pools it's very hard to sustain a protocol right because it's it's the
If a bank doesn't have money,
it can't do their intermittents
and they can't do any business as a bank
and can't make any yield.
So they can't pay for the luxurious offices
and they cannot pay for the big banker salaries.
So if you now turn that around
hey, what if the bank would come to you and say,
hey, you can deposit your money, but you need to lock it for 20 years.
But you'll get the yield every year that you can use to live off.
And by the way, we'll wrap this into like a product that you can sell, at least for the value that is in there, because this bond is going to make money all the time.
that is in there because this bond is going to make money all the time um but potentially also
sell it at potentially a higher price because people are buying something that they know is
going to accrue they know that it's going to going to become worth more so that's like that's really
interesting that you guys came up with this and then the you know one of the one of the questions
that i have is like because when you pitch me this for the first time, I was like, oh, okay, 20 years, that's a long time, right?
You know, and then, okay, so you can sell the NFT.
That is actually really interesting.
But how, and then you also mentioned like the different tiers and the APR levels.
And you mentioned that there are four, right?
So what if I would go to the platform tomorrow and I would create a bond?
Would I get like into tier one or can I immediately do a tier four?
How does that work, Tommy?
You'll start at tier one.
So whenever you make a bond with us, the design is 50-50.
GMI is like the hub token where we're connected to all the stable coins and pairs
and then 50% of the partner token.
So that's a level one bond and the yield for that is 100% APR. Now to be clear that's 100%
APR simple interest. It's not compounding because 100% compounding would be unsustainable in 20 years.
But simple interest, it works and it rewards people who are earlier. So once we have a level one bond, it's a very
simple UI we have. I'm quite proud of it. It's very easy to use. You can upgrade the bond to
level two. You take a level one bond and pair it with a roughly equivalent amount of GMI
and it creates a level two bond. Level two bond pays 150% APR. You could do the same thing to go
to level three and to level four, again, pairing with an equivalent amount of GMI.
At level four, it caps out at 300% APR.
And I want to be clear on the APRs, by the way.
This is a sustainable design
as 300% APR over 20 years
is the same thing as 23% APY,
It's actually a sustainable system
when we get to that point.
But my plan is ultimately to keep any of the valuable liquidity at that point, you know,
essentially forever is what we want to have. We want to create a long term, like essentially
permanent liquidity infrastructure. But yeah, that's basically how the upgrades work. And the
really interesting thing about them, so the way I got the idea of the four levels was kind of lending the idea from physics where you have, some of you guys may have heard this, you know, you got position and then you take the derivative of position is acceleration, derivative of velocity, excuse me, and then derivative of velocity is acceleration and derivative of acceleration is jerk. And so what you'll eventually see in the charts is you'll see these four levels kind of interact with each other in a very interesting way.
You know, they're all tied together.
And it's going to kind of bring a physics aspect to liquidity like we've never seen.
And on top of that, ultimately drives the demand driver to lock up more liquidity because people want to get to those higher levels.
So it's a pretty powerful design. Yeah.
And I think this is where we sometimes lose people, right?
Because I do think that if you explain people like very simple, you know, how does this
work in the banking industry?
Okay, this is an equivalent.
You can see the liquidity is there. But can you explain a little bit more what you do with the bonds so you can guarantee that 100%
simple interest? Yeah, you don't have to do anything. You just have to mint the bond and
you just keep it there. And it's going to accrue interest, it's going to accrue yield,
I should say. And you can see that in the bonds today.
You go to our platform, there's people who've minted bonds several months ago.
It's when we got everything fully up and running.
And you can see how much yield they've accrued.
And the people who have level four bonds, it's really quite incredible to see how much yield they're already accruing within them.
So, yeah, you don't have to do anything.
You just hang on to the bond and just let it do its work.
Yeah, that's crazy, right? So that means that anybody that basically creates an LP right now, and I think it's super cheap, right? Because
all crypto prices are down right now. But basically, it works two ways, right? So that I understand it properly, and also the people
listening in. So you go to the platform, you create the bond, the tier one bond, you put a 50%
GMI, 50% hello, and you get 100% simple interest on that every year. But what happens to me if the
prices go up, you know, we're in a bear market, right? so prices can't get any lower or it feels like that at least,
at least for small caps. What happens if the prices of GMI and Hello go up?
Does the interest go up exponentially? It goes up along with it. Yeah. So basically,
the yield is based on the value of the bond every day and then apply the yield to that.
So it's like a daily snapshot of the value.
And then that's how much earnings you accrued divided over 100%, divided over 365 days.
So and then as the market goes up, yeah, the bonds will appreciate in value.
So yeah, the bonds would be more valuable.
And the amount of yield you get also increases
as a result of that as well. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy, right? So anybody that is having like
tokens in a wallet somewhere, maybe they'll hold a little bit of hello, maybe they want to buy some
GMI, maybe they'll hold some GMI, they want to buy some hello. It's far smarter to put these into an
LP bond and have them accrue and if you want to exit
the position you just sell the nft and you you get your money even with all all the prices going up
because people know that they're buying that amount of like money and that amount of uh yield
so that that is like extremely interesting um it's really funny how this works because I I got
into DeFi like a year ago and I really started deep diving and it's like it's insane how many people,
and I started to talk to a lot of people,
how many people basically have, I don't know,
$5,000 worth of ETH just stuck in a wallet somewhere,
because maybe one day they want to sell it at $4,000.
Well, all the time, they're not making any yield on that.
And I think there is like a lot of retail money sitting a wallet somewhere that should be making a yield because
it makes sense, right? Inflation goes on, you know, crypto prices aren't going up pretty quickly,
probably. So there are definitely these solutions that can help you preserve wealth and also get you ready for the next bull run.
Okay, so what you're saying, Tommy, it's super easy to just go to GMI,
going to make it website and just deploy these bonds, right?
And I think you also mentioned something about upgrades and discounts on this.
What does it take for one to go from like a tier one to a tier, I don't know, tier three as an example?
Yeah, so just go to our website, gonnamaka.com. We made a video on how to do it with Hello and we'll link that below or share it with the community so you guys can see, but it really just takes a minute to do it. You just need to have some hello and GMI in your wallet.
You know, 50 bucks of each is sufficient, more than enough for a bond there.
And you just click Mint and then let it mint.
It takes, depending on the blockchain we're on, on Ethereum, you know, less than a minute,
And once you have it in your wallet, on the same mint page,
on the right side of the page is an upgrade section.
And then you just need to have a level one bond
and then the same amount of GMI, basically.
This is actually where our revenue stream exists
as we charge upgrade fees to go higher in those levels.
This is our main revenue stream
and we make it worthwhile for the user.
The amount we're charging for the upgrade fee
is a lot less than the amount of yield
that will be accrued over the lifetime of the bond.
And we set those upgrade fees to 20%.
We're currently slashing them down to 10%.
So you basically have a level one bond
and then the GMI plus 10% of the value of the new bond.
And that's how much to upgrade through every level all the way from level one to level four and i encourage you guys
also to if you do want to upgrade the bonds do that in like a tighter window because when you
do upgrade a bond it does the the rewards that were accrued from the previous level essentially
go back to the pool of basically all the rewards.
So one part of our system is when people upgrade the bonds, they actually become fractionalized.
So the purpose of this is twofold.
One, it allows people to buy a fraction of a bond, so they don't have to buy a whole
Second of all, it creates that flexibility, additional flexibility, you know, that someone can,
again, then they can buy and sell a fraction of a bond. And that's increasing every time a bond,
a new bond is minted, it increases the liquidity of the previous bond in the, in the liquidity pool,
the fungible liquidity. So it's, again, a pretty intricate system we've designed in this, but it's
all circled around giving the user maximum flexibility and tying down the yield. And I'll
just add to that because you made a great point earlier on too. The name of the game here is,
if we look back years ago, staking was the name of the game. Staking is still quite popular today. But staking
a lot of times is locking up the tokens. But it's just one-sided. It's not doing that much,
as you were saying. The powerful thing here is its liquidity. And I really think liquidity is
the name of the game. To actually put your tokens together and let them serve a purpose, let them be useful.
You know, you're creating, when you create a liquidity pool, you are creating a market for people to, you know,
the infrastructure for people to be able to get in and out of trades and all that. So I think it really is an evolution to kind of shift from, you know, just staking, you know,
which we did initially with energy to providing
liquid long term or permanent liquidity infrastructure.
Give me a thumbs up if you guys can hear me no no one can hear me okay you hear me sander are you there
we may have lost sander all right now i see all the thumbs up i have a little lag i think
we give sander a second can you guys hear sander i can't hear him
Can you guys hear Sander?
Yeah, you should be able to hear me now, right?
Okay, okay, yeah, so this is better.
My personal account is probably rugging.
But we're here, we're here, so it's all good.
No, I think it's really interesting, and it also comes to lie that in the current crypto space,
there are so many more options to generate a yield on your tokens.
You can stake your tokens.
You can try to trade them.
You can put them into DeFi pools.
I'm pretty sure that you can swap your crypto for stocks or tokenized stocks in the near future.
But these bonds are basically the equivalent of a money bond, right?
It's going to pay out forever.
It's all wrapped up in a contract.
So it's really interesting to see.
And I love the fact that we're building more and more and more of these solutions where
people actually can create their own
decentralized monetization strategy,
where you can say, well, I'm worth this amount of money,
this is the inflation, where do I put my money?
In the digital realm, of course, to really make that upside.
And I think that shows matureness in the space,
and I think that is really cool to see.
What I also found really cool to see is that somebody
like live created the bond, and he commented,
or she commented, sorry, that in the space.
So, thumbs up for that person doing that.
And Tommy, but what would also be good is,
you know, within Hello and the Hello DAX, we have this mechanism
where a big part of the fee is going back to the creator of the LP, 50%. You guys created
a new LP on Hello, and with that, you guys are one of the first projects to put native
LP to work on the DAX. So we appreciate that. It's going to be a good return.
I guarantee that because we've been benefiting from it
for over half a year now in our testing phases.
And it's really amazing because we can basically
run a part of the company from the fees
that we're getting now from the volume,
something that we never had before.
So it's really helped our sustainability.
The other part is that we're also getting a little bit of fees
from the revenue that we're making as a treasury company. So we'll be putting forward a piece of
that into the bonds with GMI. So in that sense, also our community will be sure and ensure that
there will always be a market for these bonds.
So if you're looking to do this, have a look.
But at the same time, Tommy, I believe that you guys are also doing an airdrop, right?
And one of the questions that I got from the community is how do Hello Olders check actually if they're eligible for the airdrop of GMI?
Because I believe there is a second wave going right now.
Yeah, so we're just about to kick that off.
I don't know if it's live yet, but if not, it's going live probably this weekend.
And within that, all Hello holders will be rewarded.
Just go to the airdrop, airdrop.gonnamakeit.com.
You log in with your MetaMask.
We use MetaMask natively and connect it to your X account.
We have several programs there.
You get rewards for minting bonds.
So if you mint a bond, you get rewarded.
If you trade a bond, if you bid or list on a bond,
if you post about us on X,
or if you go there and you just have Hello Tokens.
You guys are our special partner for the season.
So if you guys have Hello Tokens, you can go on there. And just for having Hello Tokens in your wallet, you'll
have some GMI set aside for you. So again, airdrop.gunnamakeit.com. Look for the token
HODLer airdrop and just click on that. And if you're connected, it'll let you know how
much you're rewarded then. And those will accumulate until we do our main TGE event,
which of course will do our main TGE when the market is hot.
That's just how you have to do them.
So at that time, you'll be able to get your GMI from it.
So guys, only by listening into this space, you are making money.
You're getting a free ad drop just by holding some Hello tokens.
Tommy, we'll compose a tweet together and push that out a little bit later on today.
And to make sure that everybody goes in.
One of the things that I was thinking, do people actually get a bigger airdrop when they actually mint a bond or buy a bond?
Because we have seven different programs set aside.
So any activity you do, you'll be rewarded.
We'll also create a couple of quests for the people in the Hello Club to make it easier
for them to get to the airdrop section.
It's going to be really interesting to see how this works
and what it's going to do.
We're definitely going to create a couple.
Is there anything that we missed around this, Tommy?
Anything that we still want to touch on?
We have a lot of projects that we're incubating and growing together with.
There are about 10 projects that are in our incubator.
One got a Coinbase listing.
The other one had a full sellout at their pre-TGE sale the other day, Warp.
Can maybe rephrase the question.
So we have a lot of different projects in the accelerator incubators.
They're doing really well,
but they're all building on a different chain.
So for example, one is building on Avalanche,
the other one is building on Base. There is another one, a couple of is building on Avalanche, the other one is building on BASE,
there is another one, a couple of them building on Solana.
Can everybody work with GMI and the bonds or is it restricted to a couple of chains?
That is a great question. And we have really come from the frame of trying to help people wherever they're at.
So we already are on eight chains, including Ethereum, Ape Chain,
Base, Arbitrum. I think we're launching Avalanche this weekend or something. And more in the
works. So Solana is another one. Solana is a bit different, coding different structure,
but that's underway. So yeah, we want to meet people where they're at. So whatever chain
they're on, we can meet them there.
If we're not on that chain already, then we'll get there.
We've been pretty intentional about that.
Yeah, 100%, brother, 100%.
And we're also looking to expand to a lot of more EVM chains.
So we're definitely going to also try to connect with you guys on there
on creating the bonds and maybe even generating some yield from the trading fees that projects get from
listing on the Helodex. Maybe we'll feed that just directly into a couple of the bonds that are being
built by you guys. So I think we can really create like a liquidity loop here, which is very
interesting. And I think it will help a lot of founders and a lot of projects, especially in the bear market. So I'm really, really, really vibed to get you
guys onto the DAX. I'm really vibed about the products that you guys have been building.
It's amazing to see that, you know, what started off
to us building these bonds and launching these bonds together.
So I'm really proud of that.
And I think that, you know, guys, for everybody,
we'll update you a little bit more,
but there are a couple of things really important to take away from this space.
One, LP bonds are going to be around forever.
They're going to make yield forever.
But you can sell that bond each and
every second of the day by just selling the NFT on the marketplace of GMI. So just imagine that
you put up a little bit of LP now in a downtime. The price goes up of both tokens, GMI, hello,
and you get 100% interest on that per year. Just imagine what that bond could be worth
And even if the interest is lower,
maybe the price of Helloween GMI doesn't go up 10X or 20X,
it will still probably do better
than a lot of other products you can buy on the market.
So it's a really interesting proposition.
I do understand that some people will be like,
oh, well, it's actually pretty complicated, but I do think that some people will be like, oh, well, it's actually
pretty complicated. But I do think that, Tommy, you nailed it today. You made it super simple.
I could go there now and just basically start creating some bonds. And we'll also, as Hello,
we'll definitely feed into the bonds. So we'll definitely make sure that there always is an
active market and that you can try this and see how it works.
But I do think this is one of the innovative pillars on which DeFi is going to be built
the next couple of years. So looking forward to this, Tommy.
Yeah. And shout out to MPT who minted a bond in the space. And TorG looks like he saw the
announcements for the spaces here.
He minted like 10 bonds just 13 hours ago.
And you guys are providing long-term liquidity for hello, NGMI and the whole ecosystem.
And I just want to say here, one thing that I love about this is we are bringing a new sort of product and
I think anyone who's launching a token, who's launching a product, you know, look at what
we've created here as the infrastructure, marketing support, everything for projects
You know, there's not that many DEXs that are going to give you that sort of follow through, both
through the DEX, sharing the fees, as Hello is doing 50% is substantial, and then the liquidity
So we're really creating a very strong kind of package for projects where they can actually
get the sort of support that they'd want from a DEX and the liquidity infrastructure to
So I'm super excited about this.
This is a very strong partnership and yeah, just looking forward to the months and years ahead.
We're definitely going to rock it.
We're going to have a good time.
I know that the market is a little bit down, but we're going to create our own little bull market.
It is something that we've committed
to and we're working our asses off to do it and we're doing it the right way and the smart way.
So with that, guys, I would like to appreciate and thank everybody that took the time to be in
this space. I want to definitely thank the Gotta Make It team and Tommy in special. It's good
running and bumping into you at events throughout the world
and doing the smart things.
And for everyone that is not in this space
but wants to listen back,
we'll make sure that it airs
as an episode of Hello Crypto.
You can listen on that on Spotify
the next one is going to be next week.
In the intermediate, we'll be dropping more content about GMI, the bonds, and how you can work with them.
Make sure that you survive the bear.
And when the market starts going up, we're going to win.
So thank you very much, guys.