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GMI LP Bonds NFT + Defi. Partnerships and Growth.
Recorded: March 1, 2026 Duration: 2:09:13Space Recording
Full Transcription
Thank you. you You I'm losing it
Raindrop
Drop talk
Smoking no cooking
A hot bottle
Cricket
Cricket on your bitch
She a thot, thot, thot
Cooking up dope in the crock pot
We came from nothing or something
I don't try nobody
Call up the gang and they coming
Call me a river to do with me
My niggas are sad as food We got daughters and running while food okay
i'm Woo! Woo! Wreckings on wreckings, got backings on backings, I'm ridin' I'm ridin' I'm cool!
I take your feet right from you, you, bitch I'm a dog!
Woo! Yeah!
Down on walls, ooh! Hey!
Hoppin' the fall, ooh! Woo!
I tell they beat the cunt, come from me, come from me!
Boy, these losers under me, hey!
They're hatin' the devil, keep jumpin' me, jumpin' me!
That was all you keep me jumpin' me!
Hey! You do the most, the most, the, uh, pull up and go,
Yeah, my diamonds are trolling, Holdin' the power, no more, so, wow! I'm losing it. I'm cooking a hot bar, I'm cooking a hot bar, I'm cooking a hot bar, I'm cooking a hot bar,
I'm cooking a hot bar, I'm cooking a hot bar, I'm cooking a hot bar, I'm cooking a hot bar,
I'm cooking a hot bar, I'm cooking a hot bar, I'm cooking a hot bar, I'm cooking a hot bar,
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yeah, y'all better than hold up my boo. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh E aĆ Oh I'm losing it! Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah!
Thank you so much, Shilzaki, for playing the music.
Oops, oh, sorry, I was coming in.
Sorry, thank you so much, Shilzaki, for playing the music. I know we was coming in sorry thank you so much for playing the music
i know we have like two hours or so so i do want to go ahead and get started so thank you so much
for bringing in the music i want to see how everybody was doing today i will send out mics
but if i could ask that you repost the space bring more people in here learn to learn about
liquidity bonds and what energy has been up to since the last time we spoke and going to make it marketplace. So I know a lot of work has been going on, but I wanted to check
in with everybody to see how everyone is doing. And if you would like, please feel free to request
the mic. Like I said, I'm going to throw out some microphones, but please repost the space,
bring some more people in here to learn about what energy is doing with liquidity bonds and
the movement and traction they've been
making with hello decks and everyone else that they're trying to that they're partnering with
so with that being said i want to say good morning mark how are you doing good morning
good evening good night wherever you are i don't want to assume it's morning for anyone uh how are
you doing mark are you there hopefully i'm not rugging if not tommy, are you there? Hopefully I'm not rugging. If not, Tommy, how are you?
I'm good. Good morning, Zachy, or Zachy, Mark, Gabby. Hope you guys are well. Welcome, everybody.
Thank you. Hopefully everybody's doing well. I just wanted to kind of circle around the room,
see how everybody's doing this morning before before we get into uh everything that has been happening
since the last space uh i know there's lots of work that has been going on um and so zaki how
are you this morning this evening i'm not sure what time it is for you but i wanted to see how
you were doing um yeah i'm sorry with my voice. I'm having a cold.
Oh, I hope you feel better.
Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm greeting you all guys. I'm happy to be here again. Thank you. My voice sounds a little low. Thank you.
Well, you know, I thank you for being here and for always contributing with the music and being able to speak with us. But we do hope you have a speedy recovery and feel better super soon.
OK. And Mark, are you there? I want to say hi to you, too, as well.
Mark, are you there?
Yeah. Yes, Gabby, I'm right here.
Just making all the announcements everywhere
and making sure that you know everyone gets ready yes um you know and i know it's happy march 1st
um you know every new month new goals new ideas uh and things that are happening so and uh tommy
you said you're doing well no i mean I mean, weather's good. Everything's
good. You're not suffering from any colds or any anything like that, are you? Are you
feeling great today?
Yeah, I'm good. Everything's good here. I'm in Puerto Rico still, so, but wrapping up my
trip here, going to New York City in a few days for the Arbitrum Founders House. So that'll
be cool to connect with the Arbitrum ecosystem
and see if we can get LP bonds plugged in there.
Nice. The Arbitrum.
Okay. That's really nice.
I'm sure you're posting about it.
You will post as you're there so that we can share.
So it's nice to see the founder always connecting
with more people to get the word out, you know,
and hopefully you'll have some more people in here
who love to go to conferences too that can help represent those LP bonds as we, you know, are
learning more and more about them and having options is a wonderful thing. So that's why I
believe everybody should be in here because options are great to have. So this is just another
opportunity. So great to hear your opportunity. And wanted to start to get into
how's everything been going since we have been,
you know, since the last time we met,
because we are meeting on a monthly basis
at the first Sunday of every month at the current moment.
And eventually we will begin to, you know,
have more spaces as Tommy and team.
Is Gabby cutting out or is it me?
No, I think it's Gabby's cutting out. I am, oh no, I hope not.
Oh no.
Oh, now we can hear you.
Okay, now you can hear me.
Try switching from cellular to wifi orFi or something, Gabby.
You're cutting out a bit.
Okay.
Let me try something real quick.
Can you hear me now?
Yeah.
Nice. Okay, there's a trick. Okay, when stuff like that happens tommy are you able to hear me yeah i can you can hear me but tommy i don't think tommy can hear me let me try that i can i
can hear you i can hear you now okay so one trick too when that happens um and i'm glad that tommy
brought that up uh cal shib actually taught me a good trick.
So if any time you are a co-host and you're having problems being able to speak, one of the things that you can do is turn on airplane mode and turn off Wi-Fi.
Give yourself a count to five or a count to 10 and then turn off your airplane mode on your phone and go back onto wi-fi and you should
come right back in so if anybody's having a problem with that uh that's one of the ways that
you can come back uh so just wanted to you know give that uh give that disclaimer uh that does
happen a lot to people so just an option to know that there is a way to get back so with that being
said um we are super excited like i was saying before before, about Tommy's upcoming trip to New York to spread awareness about the LP bonds.
And so getting out there helps the project. So if you know anyone who wants to partner or if there's anyone inside of Web3 that wants to partner, also reach out because liquidity is important for all projects.
With that being said, we'll go ahead and start getting into the questions.
I will see the team has been working hard in the background to get questions
to make sure that we have the most beneficial information for everyone who comes in here
and shares this space with us.
If you have questions, please feel free to place them in the purple pill.
Also, feel free to request the mic and come up,
and we will answer your questions
um to the best of our ability real quick everyone on our team who's on the x space you guys need to
be active on telegram during the space and any other communication channels we have like we need
to make sure you guys are paying attention to conversation and everything so please make sure
you're doing that if you are on the team or affiliated in any way. 100%. Everybody's participation is necessary and needed. I know how that goes. So Tommy,
thank you for mentioning that. With that being said, if you want to get into, and if you could,
please share if you're in any of the NFT collections, whether that, whether that's the gummy invasions, you know, anyone who's
involved, you know, Little Lettuce Monsters, anyone who's involved, please feel free to share this
space in their DMs if you have access. That helps as well, too, just to help with a reminder.
But that being said, we'll get into our first question here for Tommy and team.
You know, as we are learning more about liquidity bonds,
we want to know, and more about tech,
we want to know how does having the tech fully built
and deployed change your conversation
with potential partners?
As we know, partners are, you know, important,
important for this upcoming year, those partnerships.
So how does having the tech fully built and deployed change your conversation with potential partners?
Yeah, do you think we should jump right into questions or should we do a little bit of just, you know, catch up and stuff?
You know, I mean, there's a lot of crazy stuff going on in the world right now and all that stuff.
crazy stuff going on in the world right now and all that stuff i don't know it seems like
I don't know.
It seems like the word.
i you know honestly tommy i would love to talk a little bit about going to sleep and then waking
up and being in a war i just you know not to stay there on that topic but that was very surprising
um and uh yeah i think we should maybe talk about you know tommy's corner tommy's
you know minutes or you know even with everything that's going on, I would love to catch up instead of going into the questions first.
I think that would be great.
I did have an opportunity under another account of mine just to go in and sit into Mario Knopfel's
space in reference to what happened and what's going on with the war.
You know, to see that we're helping initiate things like this and there's no regard for life out there. And the things that are happening even with Americans or anyone else who's even trapped
in Dubai right now and live, hearing things live has has been pretty disturbing i have to say so myself
um so tommy uh waking going to sleep and then waking up i had so many alerts that came across
my phone for crypto and i woke up because i said what in the world is going on and so
to wake up in the war i don't know i'm surprised and I'm disappointed, you know, to say the least.
And why? You know, not really understanding.
So if you have an opportunity to go into some other spaces and kind of listen to what's happening, it's very eye-opening.
And prices have started skyrocketing with gas.
I'm not sure if anybody has been able to, you know, notice that.
if anybody has been able to, you know, notice that. But there's lots of things that are,
because of this war that are happening that I don't think we all expected this morning.
Not this morning, but yesterday morning. So, yeah, Tom, I don't know if you have anything
to say about, you know, going to bed one night, kind of a little bit more peaceful than to wake
up in a war. It was a bit upsetting. Yeah, I mean, I think we kind of saw little bit more peaceful than to wake up in a war was a bit upsetting.
Yeah, I mean, I think we kind of saw it coming.
It was kind of inevitable.
So I don't know.
I'm detached.
I'm hoping that it ends up to some positive thing.
You know, sometimes there's stuff behind the scenes that we don't see.
Yeah, I don't know. I guess we'll have to see it. Obviously, it's also interesting to think about how it's going to affect the markets because crypto took a hit initially when it started and
then it kind of like stabilized for now. But then the stock market futures open tonight in about five, six hours.
So it'll be interesting to see what happens to the rest of the market there.
So yeah, I mean, a little bit crazy times.
So yeah, I think this is the closest we've been to like a world war in our lifetimes.
So interesting to see what happens.
Yeah.
You know, thank you for your input, Tommy.
It was just, it was surprising not to say it was inevitable, but we know war makes times of, you know, it brings in money.
That's, that's one thing that it does.
But yeah, my alerts from crypto were because everything was starting to go down. And I'm like, oh, my goodness.
So, you know, and as much as, you know, like you said, there's things behind the scenes that we don't really necessarily understand.
I just feel like we have a lot of, how to say this nicely, we have a lot of people with a lot of, a lot of leaders
with a lot of egos that don't care about people. And we have to be more about the people instead
of our egos. That's very disheartening. But like you said, we don't know what's going on behind
the scenes, but we know that there are people out there who are heard, you know, our positive
vibes, thoughts, prayers go out to those who are
in the middle of something to do with. And until it lands on our soil, we will not understand.
But one guy said he was hopeful to get back home because another lady in the hotel where they were
staying actually said, oh, I've been, she's from Lebanon. And she said, oh, I've been through this before. He was like, he's never experienced anything like this in his
life. And I'm thinking to myself, you know, people who are used to stuff like this, my goodness,
he felt a little bit better because of what she said. And I thought to myself, oh my goodness,
when you're used to stuff like this, but let it come here to our soil. We would never understand until it until we confront it on our front steps.
But that being said, I want to hog up the mic. I do want to pass it over to I do believe BFM Times has come in.
Thank you so much for taking the mic. Wanted to say hello to you and feel free to contribute to the conversation. Please repost the space. Bring more people in here as we're having a casual conversation before we get into, you know, too many, before we get into questions in reference to LP bonds and so forth.
So I wanted to welcome you and thank you for coming up.
BFM, are you there?
You just have to unmute your mic.
You might be speaking.
Oh, no. BFM, are you there? You just have to unmute your mic. You might be speaking.
Oh no. Am I breaking up again?
No, we can hear you.
Okay.
Well, when you have a moment,
you might not be able to unmute at the current moment,
but we're glad you're here
and please feel free to jump in at any time.
And Vithi, hi, I'm sending you the mic as well.
Please feel free to come up and say hi.
And everyone else, I am sending out microphones.
Shibam, thank you for being here.
Cal Shib, Mfifi, Mansi, Shweta, Shweta.
Thank you for being here.
And also, I can't pronounce your name, sorry, if I can't.
But I wanted to thank you. We're having just a small chit-chat about anything that you know that has been going on out here in Twittersphere that you've heard about and that you'd like to discuss.
that you'd like to discuss, please feel free to come up and have a chit chat with us and
talk about anything that has been going on that has kind of piqued your interest or Tommy,
anything else that you have seen out here in the Twitter streets. I see some things, but
not everything, but I know a lot of, like you said, crazy things have been happening
throughout the week. I think there was some announcement, like you said, crazy things have been happening throughout the week.
I think there was some announcement about, you know, Bitcoin or something.
I can't recall who it was.
Somebody manipulating Bitcoin and it dropping at 10 o'clock every day on every day of the week at 10 o'clock.
So, and I can't recall.
I did see something about it, but I don't recall exactly what it was.
But there were spaces about it as well.
So I don't know, is it Jane Street or something like that? I can't recall.
Have you heard about that one, Tommy?
Yeah, I did see that.
And again, just another kind of extraction that's been happening in the space. I mean, right now on the...
I do logarithmic regression charts to see kind of where crypto is at. And Ethereum is pretty much at all-time lows now in terms of undervaluation, close to it.
And altcoins are for sure.
I mean, it's been kind of crazy.
Normally, you have the bull market, Bitcoin takes off, altcoins follow.
We didn't get that this time. We got Bitcoin took off, Ethereum just kind of poked its head
out a little bit and it's now back down to the 1800-2000 range, which is pretty incredible,
really. And then altcoins, if Ethereum is struggling that much, you can assume all coins
are struggling that much more. So yeah, it's been kind of a wild market for a lot of coins out there.
A lot of coins out there are struggling right now. So yeah.
You know, it seems like we've been in this crypto winter for a long time, or even people even say recession for, you know, a couple of years, you know, it's like, we're getting used to it. It's like, when are we going to go in the direction of up only, but we know retracement happens. We know things have to pull back. It is healthy. But you know, the manipulation of pure extraction is crazy you know so the thing that we
feel like we have freedom the most would be in bitcoin but look how much is being manipulated by
people who have control so is it really some something we can really have freedom with or is
it really under control of someone else and so we don't really have as much freedom as we think we
do i don't know.
I'm kind of, I did watch a video in reference to that and it gave me some food for thought.
And I was like, wow, I love the freedom that Bitcoin offers, but if it can be manipulated
like this, how much freedom do we really have? I mean, the technology, the technological foundation
is there, but that doesn't stop the market manipulation.
It doesn't stop the rug pulls and scams and all the other shenanigans.
It doesn't stop all that.
And in that way, it's kind of in some ways worse.
You know, I mean, there's kind of a chart blanche for a lot of bad actors to be able to do stuff and get away with that, which
is really, really accelerated the past few years.
And so that's what's happening.
You know, the money comes in.
I don't know how much money has been extracted from crypto these past few years.
It's definitely in the billions.
But that's money that people profit and they take out of crypto.
And then when liquidity leaves one coin, it's felt in the next
coin and it kind of has this kind of domino effect. And that's been going on for years.
And so like literally liquidity is getting just drained again, especially from all coins. But I
mean, even again, Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, the makers are feeling it too. So yeah, it's a liquidity extraction.
And yeah, sadly, again, fell across the space.
It's really funny to me.
You know, I think about that sometimes.
You know, I really feel like energy was slash is way ahead of its time.
I'm still just at a complete loss at how the world has put such a low value on security.
But again, maybe that time is coming.
And again, we didn't sit around and wait for people to realize that.
I'm an inventor in the space.
I invented decentralized enforcement.
And now we invented LP bonds.
We'll get to that conversation in a little bit, but that solves a much more understandable
and unignorable pain point.
But just from the security status and building a blockchain that actually takes ethics and
morals and protecting the community seriously, it's really kind of crazy to me that collectively
the crypto space has allowed things to get here.
It's interesting you say that because safety should be, I don't know, you know, safety,
ethics, morals. I mean, you know, sometimes I think how important is money to people that you could overlook your morals and ethics and safety when it comes to money.
I can't sacrifice those things.
It just means way too much to me.
But anyone who is, I guess, you know, even in the United States, if you're using Coinbase, Cash App, any of these third parties and you have and you have interacted with Bitcoin, whether it's sell, you know, in a tax purposeful way, you know, selling your Bitcoin, converting your Bitcoin, you have received a 1099 DA.
And that was mentioned also this week.
I don't know. I guess people are up in the air
about what they should do with it. I will say I have received three of them and I'm like, oh my
gosh. And so, yes, I did turn them in to my tax professional. I am doing the right thing with
them because I don't want any repercussions with any taxes or anything like that with not reporting.
Now, that is something new that has happened this year.
And like I mentioned, if you're on crypto.com, any type of exchange,
or if you've been sent from your centralized exchange to your decentralized
and then turned around and sent it back, it's looking at proceeds.
and then turned around and sent it back. It's looking at proceeds. So in your cost basis
and proceeds, they want you to categorize those things. So that is a big thing that was talked
about this year, excuse me, that is happening this year, at least if you're in the United States.
I don't know how that goes for other people. But, you know, I will never discourage anybody from
doing the right thing. I say turn them in because if they have them, they have them for a reason. It's been reported to the government. So it is to your advantage to turn those in and make sure that they're reported. you know, state your case. But if you are not aware, you do have that and you should turn it
into your tax professional. As I have known, like I said, I have three. I was like, oh my gosh,
and they all came from Bitcoin. So it's almost like you can hold Bitcoin, but geez, you know,
be careful in the way that you use it because it could be a taxable event. And that is converting it or even selling it could cause a taxable event.
So I do want to put that out there.
Tommy, I'm not sure.
Have you heard about the 1099 DEA and your thoughts behind it?
I haven't.
It doesn't apply to me as much for the Puerto Rico thing I'm doing.
So I haven't looked into it that much, to be honest.
You know what, Tommy, I've been hearing a lot of people say, you know, along with the, you know,
being in Puerto Rico, there are, you know, options, you know, not to have this issue because
not all countries or states or, well, countries maybe more or less have the same rules and regulations. You need to know where you live
and know where you can go, you know, for a certain amount of time. And I think
world blockchain, Mike Reyes, he does talk a lot about that. If you don't know who he is, he's,
excuse me, into providing information about the government and, you know, staying abreast of different changes and laws and rules that are really helpful to understand,
as well as people putting it out here, too, on Twitter.
Take the time to read those things and take time to learn where you can, not tax evasion, but tax avoidance that is totally legal to do.
So with that being said i know
i don't want to hog up the mic i didn't know if there was someone else that um actually wanted
to weigh in on that conversation about the 1099 da treasure uh didn't know uh glad to see you here
as well just talking about some of the things that have been going on this week outside of the war
and 1099 da's uh jane street There has been so much. I feel like if
you miss a day on Twitter, you miss like a whole entire week or month or a year sometimes if you're
not here and just kind of staying abreast of everything that's going on. So I really wanted
to appreciate everybody for coming in. Kind of want to reset the room really quickly to ask if
you could please repost the space.
Bring people in as we have Kyle's Rural Conversation.
We'll get to the liquidity bonds and have more discussions around liquidity bonds because options are important as an investor, right?
We're, you know, some people might invest short term.
What you do is your prerogative, your business, but I'm a long term investor.
And we love to see projects grow and thrive,
who are building in this space.
We are liquidity bond holders
at Sheba Sequoia Forest of North Carolina.
We are a small project, but we're small but mighty.
So we give back to our community and we plant trees
and support up and coming artists like Cal Shib,
who is part of our team as well.
So I wanted to know,
what else has been going on out here outside of everything else? Those are some of the top things
that I recall from this week, but I'm sure there have been many other small things that have been
going on within the Twitter sphere. But glad to be here today, glad to share this information with everyone
and have more conversations.
So I don't know if there's any questions
down in the purple peel.
I will take a look there to see.
Yes, hello, March, I see that as well.
But Tommy, has there been anything else
that has pretty much caught your eye
outside of energy, outside of the marketplace,
what you all are doing that may bring some attention to you
that you would like to implement inside of energy
or things that you have seen?
I know you're working a lot,
so it's not easy to always be a dev to catch everything.
But anything that has caught your eye or Mark has caught your eye?
Yeah. Just off the top of my head, as you guys probably already saw,
you know, Magic Eden stopped supporting a bunch of EVM chains.
I thought that was an interesting piece of news.
But also most of the chains, they, or, you know,
all those chains pretty much OpenSea was already on.
I've kind of been playing with that idea, but, you know,
it kind of just reinforces at the same time, we got to focus on LP bonds.
I love the technology and the solution that we've created.
But with the technology we have, we could fill that gap.
But I don't think it's a good use of our resources.
I take the Pareto principle really seriously these days. Top 20%
yields 80% of the results. So I really try to focus on top 20% of top 20%. That's my focus on
what to do. So I'm just really focused on liquidity. And there's a lot of benefits that
come with the LP bonds that people don't see at a glance, but the liquidity is a big one.
And I was doing some research on that the past week with Arbitrum and Avalanche and
other chains.
I mean, it's incredible how much money a lot of these blockchains pay for liquidity.
People don't know.
But we're talking tens or hundreds of millions of dollars
in incentives. It's basically for renting liquidity because that liquidity leaves as
soon as those incentives dry up. So a lot of the blockchains do these incentive programs
to get liquidity. Again, millions, tens of millions, sometimes hundreds of millions of dollars.
They get the liquidity for a couple months or usually a year or two max, if that. And then once the incentives dry up,
the mercenary liquidity moves somewhere else. And that's why liquidity is so expensive.
Because it's like a bidding war. Everyone's bidding for the liquidity.
And because they want those stats, right? They want TVL on their chain, all that.
So they're paying out the wazoo for this liquidity
and it's just kind of, it's a losing battle.
Like they're paying so much money for it.
So I'm really keeping my focus on that
and I really see what we've built
as ultimately a big service to projects, to blockchains. So that's really how I'm approaching
it. We're solving a major pain point and problem for them. And I think once we have a few big
partnerships take off, it's kind of off to the races. We had a good start with HelloLabs. We
work with them and we got, I think, around $15,000 of liquidity
on their deck so far. They have around $200,000 of total liquidity. So with our LP bonds alone,
we're already making up almost 10% of their liquidity within the first month of partnering
with them. So that kind of shows the power. And then, of course, our liquidity, it's pretty much
permanent liquidity. It's 20 years. And by the time 20 years comes, I'll have a plan to do another series that will be a hundred years
long. So, I mean, it's effectively permanent liquidity, you know, even at the 20 year point,
I think a lot of that liquidity would just stay because it's been 20 years. So that's kind of
the direction we're going in. And Tommy, I'm really happy that you said that because I am actually looking for the space to kind of repost it where people can go back and look or even take a listen.
I'm not sure because I feel still feel like Androids don't really get the love.
And so posting actually in the nest is I still haven't been able to do that.
But I did a repost where you did have the space
with Hello Labs, and that was a great space.
I know I came in kind of late because I was still at work,
but from what I was able to listen to,
you guys, people were minting during the space as well,
so congratulations on that.
Any upcoming partnerships?
Any other discussions in the works
at the current moment? Yeah, definitely. I mean, we always got stuff in the works.
One I should bring to your guys' attention is, you know, we posted on the K9DAO forum.
If you haven't seen that, you should check it out. As you guys probably know you know K9
they were on the Shibarium chain
and that chain unfortunately
had a major hack
you know and in the hack
it was a
bridge hack and
the hackers stole a lot of
tokens from the bridge including a lot of
K9 and other partners
and I really got to give props to K9.
They did as
good of a job as you could do with security
freeze those tokens,
basically prevent
the thief from dumping them,
which was a big
save from them. Because if those tokens
got dumped, it would have killed
their chart really bad.
So props to them for doing that. They have a very competent, smart leadership. But on that note,
it kind of also crushed their core business. They were doing the liquid staking and
caused the loss of faith on that chain, which is understandable.
It's unfortunate, but that's what happens when you have a hack like that happen.
And it seems like the direction they're going is to kind of wind down all their major operations.
And I don't want to see them die because it's I know what it takes to sustain a project.
You know, you got to have something going for you.
You got to have a strong narrative.
You don't want to just be kind of left to die.
You know what I mean?
I'm not trying to be dramatic.
But I mean, again, especially in this market, though, there's not a lot of funds available.
Money is very tight.
I don't think it's the sort of climate you could effectively do some raise to do something. And I
think they're well aware of that. So I really, it's a strong community. I hope to see it
traverse and do well. And we've kind of extended an olive branch ourselves to partner with them
and help them. So again, I posted it on the K9DAO. I encourage you guys to go check it out. If you got some positive
feedback to say, I'd welcome that. So they know. I mean, we know a lot of their community members.
And yeah, so that's one I've kind of got my eye on. And then we're kind of going in
my eye on and then we're going in all directions. I'm looking for those key partners. And that's...
We applied to the Arbitrum Founders House, which is one of their biggest events for finding
elite founders. And I'm really excited to go there because I did the research on it. They have spent $80 million on these sorts of liquidity incentives over the past years.
That's a ton of money.
And again, so it's just burning so much money to keep the liquidity there.
And again, it's rented liquidity.
So coming there, and Avalanche has spent actually the most.
Avalanche spent $600 million, not just for liquidity, but for everything related to DeFi incentives and all that.
But liquidity is definitely a major part of that.
But spending so much money for these incentives.
So we're kind of I see I see GMI is like a catalyst.
Like we go in there and just basically have these projects or ecosystems plug it in because the tech's all built at this point.
And I'm really proud of it.
Took a while to get here.
We cleaned up hundreds of bugs, this and that.
We did a lot to get to where we are.
But, you know, the tech is built.
At this point, we're just expanding on more chains.
I actually want to keep it more simple.
I don't want to build a ton of new features on it. I want to keep it more simple. I don't want to build a ton of new features on it.
I want to keep it tight.
Oh, and Gabby, I forgot to tell you.
So one of the reasons why we need to hold off on fractionalization too.
Maybe I'll let you respond to all this and I'll tell you that.
But it's actually a very important insight I had planning ahead.
But anyway, yeah, the long and short of it is the tech is built.
It's a beautiful product.
It's now just about distribution. It's now just about plugging it in. It's about projects and partners seeing the value of, we've traversed this whole bear market. We
got the token out in like September, October, and that's around the time the whole market
dunked. And I mean, we're up 50% since then. I think that puts us in definitely the top
10%, if not top 5% of token performance throughout the whole market. So, you know, it's kind of proof in what we're doing.
Our token is built to perform
and people will see that more and more as time goes on.
You know what, Tommy, I appreciate that
because we do see that you are active in the forum,
which is really not just the forum,
but in the chat as well.
So, and what your plans are to do to help,
you know, to help you know to help
canine along the way so you're greatly appreciated and we we know that uh you know uh energy and gmi
is all about safety you know i am an investor into canine uh in that well chat as well so i do watch
it i really don't say anything but i just watch um you know but uh it's great to see when people
are working together because that's important.
You know, as an investor and I'm an investor, not just for myself, but I always say I'm on the side of the little man because I want to make sure that everybody is being treated fairly and being treated justly.
Right. We might not all have the same access at times, but we also need to do what's right in the mind of the people right what's for
the greater good so with that being said i don't want to uh skip over that i think what you're
doing is awesome and i hope uh canine and and and energy uh ecosystems can work together um and be
a help to one another because we have a lot of people that need to be onboarded into crypto
whether they have deep pockets or whether their pockets are surface level.
The change is here. It's not going anywhere.
And so for everybody to be a part is wonderful.
With that being said, I want to move over to MFIFI.
I saw we have MFIFI. You came up.
How are you doing?
Hi, Gabby. How are you?
I'm doing well. I hope you are. Oh, not feeling so well today, yeah, but I didn't want to miss the energy space, yeah, so I'm here, and it's just a lot, yeah, that's happening globally, and yeah, I'd see more people than we sometimes realize, yeah, so being here, just listening and connecting, yeah, means a lot to me. And it's
also a reminder that community and steady dialogue, yeah, still matter the most, yeah.
I'm thankful to be part of it, yeah. So, yeah, I enjoy being here with you all, guys, yeah.
Well, we're happy to have you here. We're hoping that anybody who's not feeling well begins to feel better shortly soon. And whatever's going on, it's always great to be among great people, right? And happy to have you here. And thank you for coming up and sharing the space and sharing dialogue and conversation with us here.
I see we have Jess Strock. Jess Strock, I also threw you out the microphone. We did go over some of the things, what's going on a little bit in the market. And if there's anything that anyone would like to contribute, please feel free to come up and speak. We're happy to have you.
the energy ecosystem and the GMI marketplace can be a help to so many out here where liquidity
is not the best right now. So, but there are options. You don't have to be alone.
You don't have to suffer as a project and it's great to have options for your investments. And
so with that being said, I wanted to, and I don't know, Tommy is now a pretty good time. Do you
think to start to move into those questions that we have for you that we've been kind of wanting to talk about?
If there's anything else in the market that anybody has seen that they would like to have a little dialogue or conversation about?
Yeah, I think we could go on the questions.
Go for it.
Okay.
I have to pop back to my questions. So just give me one moment.
Okay, there are my questions.
And as we begin to move into the questions again,
if you have any questions of your own,
please feel free to place them into Purple Pill
or feel free to come up, request the mic
or we'll also throw out mics for people
to ask questions as well.
So our first question is,
how does having the tech fully built and deployed change your conversations with potential partners?
Yeah, I think that's a huge difference.
When I was at Token 2049 in October,
we were just getting to the point of getting everything live and rolling.
We weren't quite there yet. I would really call the point of getting everything live and rolling. We weren't quite there yet.
I would really call the point where things became mature and everything,
probably around December sometime,
around the same time our stats page came up.
And if you guys haven't seen that, check that out.
It's a beautiful chart.
Our TVL is going up constantly and our locked liquidity is going up constantly.
That's a result of what we built, right? So liquidity locked for 20 years. So I think that kind of speaks for itself.
So yeah, I think it's a huge difference. You go from a place where it's conceptual,
where I get it, but other people might not get it to instead just pointing people to like,
look at the results, look at the, look at the TV lock liquidity going up and TVL
going up and kind of speaks for itself.
So personally for me, it creates a lot of confidence.
You know, I'm an authentic person.
And in this space, there's a lot of fake stuff, right?
And I don't know how people fake that confidence.
Again, I have a really hard time with fake stuff.
I know some people are good at it.
I have a really hard time with it.
I'm very authentic.
So I'm confident about something.
There is a substance behind it.
But I personally am just far more confident
because now I know I've done the work.
The tech is built.
It's a beautiful system. It's a beautiful system.
It's an advanced system.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to the next conferences and stuff
because I had such a good reception even back at Token 2049 in October
that this time around, I imagine any conference I go to, the reception would
be even much stronger still.
And those are just great catalysts for finding more partners and stuff.
So again, one of the reasons why I'm excited for the Arbitrum Founders House and keep my
eye out for any events.
I'll be back in Asia soon, so I'll be looking for events there.
That's really good to look for events and to look for more partners, you know, and to
be able to get out there among other founders or other projects, not only just to get your
project out there, but to genuinely connect.
Like you said, you hate fake stuff.
And sometimes, as you know, what they call political, it's just a political pony show
that we have to put on sometimes and, you know, switching or what
they call code switching that happens often. And, you know, that's the business world or
that's the political world we live in. So, yeah, I like the authenticity as well. I think it fits
better and people get to really know who you are. And so kudos again for the Arbitrum Founders House
that you'll be going to meeting other people and other founders.
Mark, wanted to know if you wanted to weigh in on this or add anything that you would like?
If he's not, that's okay.
I think the charts are just showing everything uh gabby um i mean i mean the two things uh to test our theories like what
we've been with lp bonds is just looking at our stats page um because that's the biggest metric
we have right uh we we don't need to do anything else like nothing else matters rather than
the tvl and the lock liquidity so stats space is is like our best uh um you know that's like a
consolidated metric like you know i mean uh how would i put it like uh are you like it's it's the
sign of life is breathing right um the prosperity of life is happiness and everything on all of that so the the breathing
and the happiness is right there in our stats page and also you can see the effect of um all of this
uh is happening on the price action of uh gmi if you go to coin gecko and look at the price action
you can see how beautifully the chart is trending up um and irrespective of market volatility uh it
kind of stays in a very strong zone um because you know we because you know there's a huge demand
flywheel uh within those uh lp bond ecosystem and we're really excited uh you know uh i mean i mean the tech the tech was um you know it was just
proven last spaces in hello and i thank mvd um for for doing that as well um i think during the
spaces itself like to mint the bond record the video and just post it like you know it was just done in you know in a matter of like
just a couple of minutes so that's that just tells you about the tech and and then the second thing
is uh uh if you look at some of the activities like you know um uh and if you follow the hello
account you might see some of the users one of the users submitted uh the level one bond and
you know i mean it just it just shows that the system is very robust
um and it's evolving and it's getting to a point where like you know it's very easy to use
and that's really helpful so thank you for sharing that information. I was trying to actually respond to you.
I need to edit my response. But sharing, excuse me, editing a response in our Telegram chat.
But I think it is important, you know, to have tech that is built, you know, to have that conversation with your potential partners,
because again, you know, everybody's kind of still new in this space and kind of feeling
their way around.
So you find things that work and things that don't work.
And sometimes you have to pivot and pivoting is okay.
So conversations do have to change sometimes, which you might want to start, might not be
what you finish with,
you know, kind of what Tommy was saying.
And I know he'll touch on that.
And I didn't know if he wanted to possibly touch on that
about the fractionalization of bonds and LP bonds
and why they may or may not work at this time.
So I would like to know,
because I remember you telling me a little bit about it,
but I know the community was extremely excited to hear
that it was an option,
but now they kind of have to kind of, you know,
pivot away from that for a moment.
You know, I think that would be great to kind of, you know,
educate the community on why fractionalization of bonds
may not be the possibility at the moment.
Would you like to go into that, Tommy?
Yeah, so basically, sorry, just a second for writing this down before I forget.
Okay, so I like to plan ahead on a lot of things.
I take that really seriously.
And one thing that I foresaw is we have this airdrop going on, right?
And we have a lot of coins set aside for the airdrop.
And I did kind of a lot of deep analysis on LP bonds, which makes me really happy about it in a lot of ways because
the system we built is not easy to replicate.
And I ask questions like, can someone replicate a system with just ERC20 tokens instead of
NFTs?
And the answer is basically no.
It would be a very clunky system that they'd have to rebuild everything that we have.
So essentially, you need NFTs to do it.
And there's actually a lot of power
in what we've created. So the idea is this, right? We need to, we want a chart that's going up. As
I've said before, charts got to go up and to the right, both the price chart and the TVL. I take
those really seriously, really seriously, because a lot of this crypto space, you know, first thing they do is pull
up your chart, right? If your chart's good, then without knowing anything about your project,
people are interested. And if the chart's going down, they're not. And it's a valid thing,
you know, just how it is. So that being said, the concern with the fractionalization is this,
The concern with the fractionalization is this.
When the airdrop comes out, right?
So the plan with the airdrop, by the way,
is when we release those GMI to the users,
we're not going to release 100% as GMI.
These aren't set in stone,
but it's going to be roughly like 10% or 12% in liquid GMI.
And then about, that's currently how I have it, about 12% liquid GMI
and 88% as upgrade credit. So the whole idea here when we do the airdrop is we don't want people
just dumping GMI on everyone's heads. We want people to take the majority of what they have
and upgrade their bonds to level four, which that's a productive thing. It's going to add
liquidity to the whole platform and everything.
And I really like that.
The problem is this.
If you have that fractionalization component, what will happen is people will upgrade to
level four, and then they'll fractionalize it to an URC 20.
And then they'll sell that fractionalized token for GMI.
token for GMI, and then they'll sell the GMI.
And then they'll sell the GMI.
So ultimately, it would result in a lot of sell pressure on GMI, which I want to avoid.
Again, I take the chart going up so seriously.
If you don't have fractionalization, then that cannot happen.
The worst thing that can happen is people can sell the NFTs, but that doesn't directly
push down the price of GMI.
And that's such a huge advantage that we have built into the technology.
Even if the bond prices take a hit,
the underlying GMI does not.
And that acts as kind of like a bedrock
in the whole foundation.
It's very important that GMI price
is as stable and strong as possible.
So that was kind of the reason, Gabby,
that I kind of came to.
If you add that fractionalization component,
you're adding a route for people to ultimately dump GMI.
But if you keep them kind of separate in that way,
you're preventing that from happening.
Now, people can go buy a fraction of an NFT anytime they want to.
They can go buy a fraction of a bond.
They're not tied to that.
That's the beauty of our system.
Like my Bored Ape right now,
it can't really effectively go buy a fraction of a Bored Ape right now, it can't really
effectively go buy a fraction of a Bored Ape, right? Or most NFTs. But with us, you can.
You can go buy a fraction of an LP bond or trade or sell. You can do that. But once a bond is
minted, I think it's really important that for all intents and purposes, we keep that as an NFT.
And of course, we'll work to build the liquidity for the NFTs.
That's a key thing, right?
That's why we have the Airdrop program to incentivize bidding,
listing, and trading of the NFTs.
So that is something that we incentivize and we take seriously.
But it's important to keep that separation
and not make it too easy to go back and forth
between the ERC20 token
and the NFT if that makes sense.
This is just really forward thinking and planning, but that's how I came to it.
Yeah, I think I might have to listen to it back over again, but yeah, the sell pressure
I think is what stood out for me, the sell pressure on GMI and making sure that the chart
goes up and to the right. We know pullbacks
are necessary, but to have unnecessary cell pressure, you know, and understanding to reduce
that is important. So I do appreciate the explanation for not just myself, but for the
community who is interested in having those fractionalization bonds or those fractionalized
bonds is really helpful. So thank you for explaining
that to myself and the community. So with that being said, we'll move on to the next question.
What would it take for LP bonds to become standard infrastructure that every new token
launches, launches uses? I think that's just a matter of really getting integrated into the ecosystems.
That's why I take connecting with these blockchains so seriously because what really needs to happen
with LP bonds is ecosystems need to champion it.
There's a lot of ecosystems like blockchains and they have dozens or hundreds of projects
in their ecosystem and LP bonds is a beautiful thing that benefits all of them.
So that's really what I'm working on this year.
I'm working on GMI to be recognized for its value and get, again, championed by some of these ecosystems.
And then they plug it into their preferred DEXs, their preferred tokens.
Maybe they have tokens in their ecosystem that have been bleeding out. Maybe they have tokens in their ecosystem that don't have great liquidity. And we're really
coming in solving a fantastic solution for those problems. So I think that's what's really about.
LP bonds should be a champion of many ecosystems. And again, that's my primary focus this year to make that happen.
So Tommy, in order for these ecosystems to champion the LP bonds, I think they
maybe they need to be in here to learn about LP bonds and what they're used for
and their purpose. Do you feel like the, you know,
the projects here on Twitter really understand what liquidity bonds are?
Do you feel like it's something that's important to them?
Because it's, if it,
if they can't understand it or they're not here to hear about it,
it's hard to champion something that you really don't understand, or, you know,
you really don't know a lot about,
or you're not trying to listen to because that may not be your main focus.
How do we engage more with the people here to get them properly educated?
I mean, I think it has to come from, first of all, a desire for whatever that token is to do well.
And so if you come from that angle, hey, I have a token, I want it to do well.
Okay.
Well, what do you need for a token to do well economically?
Well, you need a couple things.
First of all, you want to give people incentives to hold on to that token and not go sell that
token whenever they get emotional or something like that.
Or maybe fearful of war, oh, I better go sell all my stuff.
You need to give people...
You need to give a mechanism to lock up the tokens.
So that prevents the dumping.
That's been around for a long time.
But the way that's been implemented is usually projects do a lockup of like six months or one year, usually maximum four years.
And that's usually the max people can stomach because those tokens are locked up.
Like what you see going on with Magic Eden right now,
they changed a lot of what they're doing, right?
And so if you look at their posts,
people are going on there being like,
oh, I want to unlock my tokens.
They want out, but they don't have a way out.
They staked it for up to five years.
They're tied into that for five years.
Whereas we give the users an out.
Because we have the bond, they can go sell the bond.
So we have a freedom with that lockup. But the lockup mechanism is a well-understood part of reducing token sell pressure.
So that's one thing that helps the chart.
Again, we've done it better than what's typically out there.
And of course, the incentives to do that.
You always need incentives to incentivize people to do that.
So that's one.
And then again, the second part of it again is liquidity. If you want to have a good,
healthy market, you need to have liquidity. If someone wants to come by $50,000 of a token,
$50,000 worth, and there's not the liquidity to do that, or they have enormous slippage to do that,
then they won't do it. So you're going to kind of deter the big purchasers from participating.
So you need to have a deep liquidity pool as well.
And so those are two major components of getting positive price action going on a token.
So to answer the question, yeah, it just comes down to people caring about kind of the economics and plumbing behind the token. Do they want the token to do well? Okay, these are the things they need. And those are the problems we're solving them to help them do that.
economically, then, you know, here's some options for you to be able to protect that liquidity,
increase your liquidity, and make sure that your project is sustainable over time.
Really do appreciate that explanation.
So if you have someone or know someone at all that could benefit from this information,
benefit from, you know, the downturn of the market, you know, and have some options, this
is the place to come
and to be and to learn more about liquidity bonds and how to hold on to that liquidity.
So thank you, Tommy, for answering that question. So the next question is, what role does permanent
TVL play in a protocol's valuation and credibility? Yeah, I think that's a huge piece of it.
Yeah, I think that's a huge piece of it.
You know, people look at TVL all the time on places like DeFi Llama and that sort of
thing and they want to see the projects have a strong TVL.
Yeah, and again, normally that's expensive as we were just discussing.
You know, a lot of these big blockchains are paying tens of millions of dollars a year
to have those numbers. So, you know, I think it's just one of those major stats that is really important to projects.
And again, projects pay millions of dollars a year to have that.
And yeah, we were just, like you said, we were just talking about this, you know, going over liquidity is, like you always say, is mercenary, right?
And so to have an option and
a good options are great never put your eggs all in one basket but to be diversified this is another
opportunity and for people to take advantage of it and for projects especially to take advantage of
it it just makes sense it makes good sense um but again you have to learn about it and have to say
okay this is important to me.
It's important to my community. That's part of the people who purchase, you know, or, you know, expect to see good that comes from the project and also from the holders who say, I want to see this project survive.
I don't want it to die off. You know, hence the reason why, you know, there's help being provided and suggested for the canine community which i am
an investor um and and love to see that and will not stop buying my k9 because i do support the
project as an investor but we like uh tom said there's great leadership in place um and a way
to help would be to hey let's protect that liquidity. And so with energy offering, that help and assistance is
important. So it's wonderful to see projects, as I will always say, work together because
there's a lot of people that need onboarding and we can't onboard if we can't figure out how to get
through the stages that we're going through at the current moment and to be able to better present the project to people who
will be new coming in as new investors. So that's very helpful. Thank you again, Tommy, for that.
So the next question is, how do we balance building new features
versus scaling partnerships right now? Oh, that has to be hard.
Oh, that has to be hard.
Yeah.
I kind of hit on that earlier,
but we will always be improving the tech in various ways.
One of the big things we'll be doing here in the coming months
is we'll be doing a lot of optimizations in the back end,
like big kind of performance optimizations,
just improving kind of the back end of the tech significantly.
But as I mentioned before, I don't think we don't really need a lot of new features.
And I'd actually like to keep it simple.
So I feel like in that regard, things are pretty stable.
Now, I might think of something that I want to add in the future.
But for the time being, I feel quite happy with the tech and our capabilities and
the UI UX and all that. So I'm really gearing again, a lot of my focus toward partnerships
this year. I feel like the tech is definitely good enough for that avenue. So as we gain
success in that avenue, we may revisit what we can add for tech, maybe like making a mobile
app or stuff like that.
But those things are absolutely not necessary right now.
You can use it from your iPhone pretty well.
But those are the sorts of improvements we'd be looking at in the near term besides just improving like the tech or excuse me, besides the focus on partnerships.
Partnerships is the focus.
And other than that, just tightening up UI UX experience.
But I don't see a big need for new major features at this time.
I think that's all working pretty well.
Oh, Tommy, I like that.
You like to, when you say keep it simple, UI UX is so important.
I will say things that I've learned from energy,
actually been applying at my job, you know,
when we're talking about UI UX for, you know,
an AI project that is happening at my job currently right now
and being the end user is so important.
And to be able to use the product well is important.
So I will say a lot of the Web3 ways and projects, especially energy, has leaked into my daily life,
which I really do appreciate because it gives you the opportunity to learn.
And I think Mark would say that at most, the opportunity to learn here is vast and can be used in your everyday real world applications and your daily life.
But I would like to ask if there were any updates to the marketplace or to energy at all, to any of the websites that the community would need to know about.
Because I have been on there,
but I'm not seeing anything that looks new as of right now,
but didn't know if there was something
that the community might need to watch out for,
take a look at,
some, any improvements that you all have made.
You said, keep it simple.
So I don't know if there's been any reductions
or any additions to the current website or.
Yeah, what you're gonna expect to see in the months ahead is nice performance improvements so that's a big one and then besides that just more chain
integrations those are kind of the two major technical avenues that we're pushing at the
moment again we added so many features we did an enormous amount of bug fixes the past months.
And I think, again, that's all pretty stable.
And I don't want to make the system more complex.
I'm quite happy with the level of function it's at.
It has enough of an intricacy like the upgrade system.
It has enough of those components.
And again, just little things here and there.
On the stats chart, we broke it down by chain now. So that was something we implemented in the past week or so. So now you can go on the stats chart and see the breakdown by chain. We'll have little things like that, you know, that always come online. But again, the major focus at this point is not major new technical innovation that's already been done. So the major focus and the place we're putting our energy is definitely going to be on partnerships.
And that's good to hear. So if you're using the website, which I do, I keep my computer on there
all the time. I do try to see if there are any updates or changes or anything that I can contribute
as far as my user experience. But again, the main focus this year is on partnerships, and that's important to continue to grow the ecosystem.
And as Tommy, I mentioned earlier, going to the Arbitron founder's house is something that he will be doing here shortly as he finishes up there in Puerto Rico and heads over to New York.
be doing here shortly as he finishes up there in Puerto Rico and heads over to New York.
So we'll be looking out for pictures and information and who he's connecting with there
at the Arbitrum Founders House. And so we have one more question. Why should a launchpad
care about LP bonds for their token launches? Yeah, that's a good question.
And that comes down to...
So launch pads, of course, help tokens raise money
and kind of help them get out the door.
But they don't have a lot of follow-through
for projects afterwards.
You know, they're kind of out there
fighting for themselves.
So that is a really powerful avenue for GMI,
one partnership angle.
So basically, three major partnership angles that I'm focused
on are blockchains themselves because blockchain themselves have all their ecosystem projects
within them, their DEXs, their launch pads, everything within them, and all their tokens,
they want to perform well. So that's probably top of the list. Next on that list is DEXs because
DEXs are all fighting for liquidity. And it's a very competitive game that typically DEXs pay incentives
that bleed their token.
So if you go look at some DEX charts,
they just trend down.
Why are they trending down?
Because they constantly have to give their token as rewards.
So DEXs are another huge partnership angle
where we can kind of go to them and say,
hey, instead of bleeding so much on rewards,
we can handle that part.
Just help champion the protocol. And finally, launchpads.
And the benefit for launchpads is, again, launchpads help projects get out there. They help
them raise money. They help them get out the door. But as soon as the project is out there,
then the project is fighting on its own in the wilderness a lot of way. And they're dealing with the same problems as every other project,
which is how do we get this liquidity?
And how do we get our tokens off the market?
And typically, what they deal with is the same thing every project deals with,
that they have to pay for liquidity.
And if they're paying for it with their token, their token is going to bleed out.
And then fast forward a month later, the token's down 50%, sentiment's down, people start leaving,
new shiny toy comes out, next month they're down another 50%.
And before you know it, the project's already dying.
So this is how important these liquidity incentives are.
If a project pays for it with their token, then it's going to crush their chart and it's
going to ruin their momentum.
Or alternatively, plug GMI in.
And that's what I really want to see Launchpads do is, you know, champion GMI and help these projects when they get out of the gates.
Say, hey, you know, you can partner with GMI and they can provide you long-term liquidity.
This liquidity we're providing is going to stay there, you guys, 20 years.
And again, pretty much forever because I have a plan for at the 20-year mark.
The next series will be 100 years.
That's effectively permanent liquidity.
That is a huge value to blockchains, DEXs, launchpads, and all the ecosystem tokens.
Okay, Tommy.
So, you know, my ears kind of perked up when you said 20 years.
And then after the 20 years, it will be 100 years permanent liquidity locked up.
Have you received any?
Well, again, you're putting it out there as future.
But I wonder how people would feel about 100 years of having their liquidity locked up.
Well, again, the key thing, Gabby, is nobody's tied in, right?
If you didn't have access to anything for 100 years, I would a million percent agree
with you.
But the point is you have a representative of that asset.
So I guess if we want to just distill that discussion and maybe for the future, we should
just point that discussion to, are you okay with zero coupon bonds?
Are you a believer in zero coupon bonds?
Because that's what a zero coupon bond is.
You have a bond that's tradable and it accrues yield.
The bond is tradable, so you have an asset in your hand
that you could sell.
But it's not, you know, the yield is not going to hit the market
and nor can you cash in the bond before the timeframe.
So there's trillions of dollars of zero yield bonds
in the market already.
So I feel like that's a good way
to hit that conversation going forward
is if people have reservation about that,
just ask them if you have a reservation
about zero coupon bonds in the market themselves,
because that's exactly what they are.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I think it's kind of people wrapping their heads around the whole idea, But like you said, it's not that you to, you know, how do we understand it?
But I don't want to hog up the mic here because we do have Martin Bassey who came up to speak with us.
And we're glad to have you up here.
I wanted to say hi, Martin.
How are you?
Glad you came.
Is anyone able to hear Martin?
I cannot.
No, I cannot hear him.
Okay, Martin, you may have to, are you there?
Yeah, I'm here.
Are you and me?
Yes, we can hear you.
Thank you. How are you today? I'm great. Are you me? Yes, we can hear you. Thank you. How are you today?
I'm great. How about you?
Doing well.
We wanted to come up and bring you up.
And, you know, if you have anything to add to the conversation that you've been hearing, thank you for staying around.
Welcome. Any questions or anything you want to add to the conversation?
Not really much to add to what we discussed, but then I just want to actually say that
that JMI is actually building a product that is going to benefit the entire audience once you actually invest
I think I am actually part of people that are actually invested in the team and I think
it's actually worth being part of this project.
So that's what I have to say.
Thank you, Martin, for mentioning that. You know, as an investor, you know, as we are
our investors in here, we want to see projects do well. In order for them to do well, sometimes
they have to put things in place that we may not always understand, but giving us the opportunity to understand why uh we do why they do what they
do um and to educate the community i think is the best thing uh you know for us you know as as
holders as investors um and them as uh developers you know you want to make sure that uh everyone
um does well so we all win. Everybody wins.
Yes, Cheryl.
Well, thank you so much for coming up. If you have any questions or anything of that sort,
please feel free to stay up here with us. I know, you know, kind of wanted to circle back around just to make sure that we understand that, hey, if you have any questions about 20 years and
potentially, you know, after 20 years, going to 100 years, you know, just look at it as zero
coupon bonds, you know, so I think that kind of helped bring the message home
and understanding of how to look and kind of wrap your head around the idea of, oh my goodness,
I'm going to have my liquidity locked up for 100 years,
but that doesn't mean that you're stuck.
You can still sell your NFT and still be part of the ecosystem and hold your NFT if you want to,
but the liquidity will not create sell pressure on any of the tokens
or anything like that because the liquidity stays
locked up, which is a reason why the partnerships are hence so important right now. And it's
important for founders. If you're a founder of a project and you're worried about liquidity
and you want options to hold on to that liquidity, one place to come to is GMI and learn about
the ecosystem, learn about liquidity bonds and what they can
do and how important they are to help hold on to that liquidity that tommy says is so mercenary
so uh with that being said i do want to you know pass the mic over to you know mvithi or tommy or
mark to add any additional uh information in reference to the liquidity bonds? How are they doing? Are people
minting as they understand? I know Hello Labs was the first partnership and how everything has gone
so well with them and having, you know, I think Tommy had mentioned 15,000 in liquidity there.
So the education is getting out there. Going to the Arbitrum Founders House.
Again, the information will be getting out to the public.
So I didn't know if Tommy or Mark wanted to add anything additional to the conversation or even MPV.
I have talked probably 80% of the space, so I welcome anyone else wants to go.
You guys go for it.
Tommy, hopefully you have a sip of water there.
We know how it is when people, you know,
speak the whole entire time.
And so I'd like to give you a break there to see if there are any questions.
I'm trying to see if there are any questions
in the purple pill.
I don't see any questions at all.
But I didn't know if, Mark, if there's something that you wanted to add in there at all.
Yeah, Gabby, I don't know if uh people notice this but the newest feature that we have from
our last spaces is our stats space now you can filter the TVL and lock liquidity by chains uh
so that's one of the features that uh you know it's new from the last spaces so you can actually
um access that right now as we are speaking you can just um you know
uh filter it using the uh the the blockchain um and uh uh so far we are sitting on seven chain three four five six seven yeah ethereum abstract ape chain uh arbitrum base uh bsc and monad um
and uh i think i think the last time i did some tally we had over uh 250 bonds minted uh
250 bonds minted and yeah across all the blockchains like close to plus 250 bonds
that were minted so far and just to remind people you know minting any participation in uh bonds uh does give you a significant allocation towards
uh the gm airdrop so uh once you mean once you mint a bond um you get automatically qualified for
you know the uh minting airdrop and then from there uh when you take that bond um and you uh you bid or a list on it uh you you
qualify you start you start you know get you know into those realms of getting airdrop for those
activity as well um and if you go to the airdrop side you can see the higher denomination bonds carry heavy airdrop allocation
so you can see like you know when you go to the minting airdrop uh yeah um and i do wanna
um announce this um i don't know if you guys have seen us um some recent post on x airdrop uh sorry oh sorry not xa drop sorry on our uh x account
uh if you go and look across it um we have been uh uh you know starting a new campaign it's part
of our uh the entire lp bonds uh you know uh scaling engine now that we can focus a little away from the tech and more into uh scaling up
so we are hosting a bi-weekly competition uh and you know uh hosting it every every month
so the total rewards pool is like around 300 uh we'll release a post today. The competition kicks off later today
and it will start on like a Monday
and then it will end 14 days later.
And then just like a ZLE campaign,
it will start, you know, it will happen twice a week.
And those that are engaging in minting of
those bond will be getting rewarded cash USDC rewards for their activity so yeah
do make sure to follow the GMI X account turn on the notification look at what we're doing and uh you know um now you have
multiple multiple multiple incentive systems in place um uh with minting lp bond so
you when you you have tokens in place uh you know um you can you don't need to allocate like a
significant proportion you can start very
little at level one bond you know fifty dollar worth of any token and then fifty dollar worth
of GMI you start minting it you start accruing the rewards I was just looking some of the bonds
there are like 200 plus days old so you can check the rewards they uh if you started at like around uh you know
hundred dollars the bonds are worth more than that so it's following that trajectory um you
you were securing also the uh you know uh when you meant it uh are also getting rewarded through the airdrop
program and then now you you have that additional perks that is put into place
which is the which is our monthly you know cash USDC rewards campaign so do
make sure you follow our X account and follow the instructions we have laid down the
steps um you know uh previously through our posts uh we did it one day at a time so users
stay engaged and they know exactly what to do so it will be majorly through our zealy platform
uh so join our energy zealy crew uh and uh you know go to the GMI website and register yourself register your account
and then come over to you know Zilli and then finish one of those campaign yeah
thank you for sharing that so if you have a referral code, please share it. I will say I shared my referral code. So anybody who wants to get started, you know, please feel free. And it's always great to refer people because not only do they win, you win too. So thank you for mentioning that, Mark. Put that code out there. And yeah, leveling up on the bonds. Now, Tommy did mention from last space,
you know, leveling up on your bonds, don't take a long time to do it. I will say I'm in a budgeting
process because I'm trying to get to that level four. But the level four bonds, you know, as you're
continuing to level up through your bonds, you don't want to take a long time. Now, Tommy, you
kind of went over that last week, you know, within a six month time period would be the best way to do it, not to
wait much longer. And I think you had mentioned, and I don't want to say this wrong, was that
because the math is a little bit easier to do with, you know, one to six months versus, you know,
waiting a long period of time to level up on your bonds.
Is that, does that still remain?
The reason why that's important, there's no set time on it, but it's just as simple
as when you upgrade a bond, those rewards that accrued in the previous level basically
go back to the community pool.
So whenever you upgrade a bond, say you upgrade from level two to level
three, all those rewards you accrued at level two will stay with that level two bond. But you no
longer have that level two bond, right? And you have a level three bond now. So those rewards
stay with the level two bond. That's the reason why you want to get to level four in the shortest
time frame as possible. That's why. It's not like it's a hard set rule.
Just the sooner the better.
If you want to get to level four,
get it there sooner.
Once you're to level four,
there's no more room to upgrade on it.
So at that point,
your rewards will accrue
and you don't have to worry about losing
rewards from previous levels.
That's the idea why.
Yes.
Okay.
Now that makes sense.
I kind of faintly remembered but i couldn't uh so
you don't want your rewards to accrue and then you lose those rewards because you have uh you know
increased your level or you know stepped up another level which your old rewards in the previous level
stay there so okay that makes a lot of sense so if you're considering that the sooner the better
otherwise you know go from where you are to directly to level four and you may not want to
use the step process you know that's totally up to you and how you invest so with that being said
i want to thank you you know for explaining that um and thank you mark for mentioning you know the
new stats that you see because i'm like on the page trying to look as I'm trying to share my referral code at the same time. So if you do have a referral code, feel free to share it. Share it in the Purple Pill. We'll repost it for you because there's a lot of people out here who probably would like to get into this airdrop. So it's a great opportunity to, you know, to participate and to get new participants.
And I'm not sure we've shared it as of yet, but there's normally links that we do share. I don't
want to rug the space that we have, you know, that you can go into the Telegram, Discord,
and we've had several people, you know, join just from having the links and the newsletters and so forth.
So if I grab those really quick, I'll be able to repost those links for us and for those who have not participated before because there are Discords,
there are Telegrams and newsletters that you can still stay up to date
with the most updated information by making sure you participate
in those different applications
with telegram discord and gmi marketplace the ecosystem and make sure you follow the main
account please make sure you're reposting the space and grabbing more people to come
come in and share and ask questions learn more if you are a project you know that has liquidity
issues you know there's a there's an option to reduce the
the bleed as tommy would say reduce the bleeding by you know putting your uh your liquidity into a
liquidity bond um so that you can hold on to that liquidity but still have active members
uh be able to sell their their their nfts if they would, but the liquidity still remains, which helps the project sustainability
over time. It also helps with not just your project, but with your community members who
are also retail investors into your project. With that being said, I know we're getting
closer to time. I know we still have another 30 minutes or so and wanted to ask if there
are any questions or concerns
that anybody has. We'd love to, you know, answer those questions for you. If you're new to the
space, that's okay. It's okay to be new. It's okay to have questions. We're here to answer those
questions for you and what an opportunity it is to have the devs in the space with you. That's
not always possible because they're always working
and working hard um and so we thank them uh you know they have many opportunities to come out here
and speak with us uh and uh if you have any questions about liquidity bonds how they work
how they can help your projects stay sustainable over time um that's important, right? Because we're in hard times right now.
And so if you had some liquidity locked up and people not selling, how much of an advantage
you would have over others who might be suffering right now because they don't have any way to
protect their liquidity. And we don't want to shame people for having to cash out if they need
their money. That's okay. But there's other
options available. Go ahead. I'm not sure. I think Mfifi, did you un-mic there? Hey,
jump in. Yeah, give me. Talking about states, yeah. I think I've mentioned this before that
it's one of my favorite things to look at. You know, when I see those numbers gradually moving up, it gives me a sense of steady progress
that's going on at GMI and energy.
And it doesn't feel like a sudden pump or something temporary.
So it's good that it looks consistent.
And consistency to me, yeah, says a lot more than a big spike.
So when both the total value and log value are clacking together,
it really shows that people are just coming in quickly and living right away. So it feels like
there's more patience and longer term thinking that's involved. And that kind of behavior makes
the whole thing feels more stable and grounded. That's what I like the most. And I also like that the chat tells a simple
story without needing a complicated explanation. Just by looking at it, you can already see
what's going on. So you can just look at it and see the direction. Things are heading
up, upward trends over time, feel healthier than dramatic swings. So it builds more confidence for a lot
of people here, especially first time people here, you know, who are just checking in to see what's
going on at energy and GMI. So basically, for me, slow and steady growth here is always more
reassuring than fast and flashy moves. It shows progress that's being built step by step.
That's the kind of progress that usually lasts longer.
Mvithi, I think you hit the nail on the head when you said it shows that people are more grounded,
patience for somebody coming in new and making sure that they're safe and protected,
which GMI Energy Ecosystem always talks about. That is the way that I found energy through
YouTube. I actually found Tommy on someone's channel and safety was huge for me after being
in a project that I bought into. And yeah, being new, the first time newbie in a project,
and you buy something, I won't say what the token was. Most people know they used to argue a lot.
And I came in and put, it wasn't a lot, but it could be a lot for someone. I don't care how
small or how large your investment is. It's still your investment. And to get dumped on is not a good feeling. And to have something that's long-term safe, you know, for people to invest in, especially
being a newbie is extremely helpful. I've been one of those people that have been dumped on when I
first came into the space and it was not a good feeling. I didn't know much about DeFi. And to
have that experience is not something I would want anyone else to experience.
Will it happen? Yeah, but I really didn't truly understand. Don't invest more than you're able to lose.
I'm like, oh, I came in and this project sounds good, you know, and then all of a sudden you invest in, you know, your exit liquidity.
you invest in your exit liquidity. That's not helpful. It doesn't feel good. And any way that
you can protect anyone, I don't care, like I said, how deep or how surface level your pockets are,
safety is important. And like Tommy said, people may not always think of it now, but it's becoming
more and more and more important as we are moving along in this journey is to make sure that we have more of a
long-term thinking. Not many people like that. You still have some people who are gambling at the
casino. I get it, but that's not my preference, I'll say. But I don't shame those who want to
put something in and expect this return back that is absolutely not feasible for a project,
absolutely not, it's not feasible, you know, for a project, get in, get out type of thing.
So when I invest in something long-term, I do have a project, the Chiba Sequoia Forest
of North Carolina. We are investors into the GMI project. And so we want to be around
long after we're gone. And we want to support our local communities where we live.
And I live in Charlotte, North Carolina. That is not a secret because we do have an event here
every year to support planting trees
and educating people about blockchain.
And so as we bring in new people, we want them to feel safe.
So we do what's right and we want to invest in projects
that also do what is right by the community.
So it's important.
So, and Fifi, thank you so much for that positive input there.
And I think the more and more that we have these discussions and the more and more we say it,
it kind of sounds like a broken record, but until people get it, you know, we have to continue to say it.
We have to continue to protect people.
This is our mission, and to see the project grow and
to see more people come in and everyone benefits the developer feels good about the project they
make the investors feel good about the project they invest in and so it makes it easier for us
to introduce people simplicity kiss keep it simple silly or keep it simple stupid. You know, that's the motto I like.
The more simplistic is,
the easier it is for the adoption to happen.
And to have Tommy go out to the Arbitrum Founders House,
we'll say it again,
to have the developers actually meeting with people in person
to establish a rapport with other people
will do nothing but help the project grow
and help the community grow and help the community grow
and help the investors grow as well. So we are grateful hearing about these things and hopefully
they'll be ambassadors too, Tommy. You know, when we go to ETH Miami, hey, we might need to,
you know, hey, carry energy and GMI and liquidity bonds along with us as we are still traveling around because there's
many of us that go to conferences. If you have not gone to a conference, it's great to go to
conferences. You can help get the word out, be a representative, an ambassador at a conference.
And this helps us get to know more people in the space as the space is beginning to grow more and more.
So this is great info, great information.
And yeah, carry energy and any ecosystem that you're a part of.
Make sure you talk about the ecosystem because it helps the community.
It helps the developers and it helps us even learn more when we're able to explain it.
I'm not even the best at explaining, but I had the
opportunity to work with K9 at the booth. It was my first time ever working a booth, and wow, what
an opportunity. It wasn't perfect, but you know, you keep going, you keep learning, and keep speaking,
and you will eventually, you'll get it. You're not going to always be perfect, but you'll get it,
but just hang in there. So with that being said, I know we're getting closer and closer to time. Didn't know
if there's any other market. I know Jess Strzok loves to talk about the market conditions. And I
know we talked about it earlier. Don't know if any breaking news would have come out by now or
anything like that. But if you have any questions or concerns or just want to come up and chat
about anything that you're working on, please feel free. We welcome everybody. So with that
being said, I didn't know if there's any questions in the purple peel or any, I did see going to make a marketplace. This they see you in New York. So there was a post for the open house in New York City, IRL Founders House. So that's the Arbitrum Founders House. So if you are in New York and you want to meet Tommy or you have any plans to attend the Arbitrum Founders House, What a great opportunity. So that is posted in the purple pill down in the
link, down in the links below. Please feel free to retweet, repost, bring more people in as we
will continue to have these conversations. Again, we are having them once a month,
every Sunday, 10 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. And look out for more partnerships. Look out for more links and access to information
that you may not have seen lately.
So would love to invite everybody to come back to this space again
as we will have it April 1st in about four weeks or so.
But again, if you have any questions, we still have time.
We still have,
you know, still would love for people to come up and speak. If you're, if you have any questions about liquidity bonds and how they work, it's important to get those questions out here among
the community because we can all learn from each other. And while we have the developers here,
well, they're not always here at the once a month, month I think is doable for them. But as we begin to have more and more spaces, we'll have to note the stuff
almost like the back of our hands to make sure we can explain it as we begin
to invite more people into the space.
But I do want to go back over to Martin.
Martin, I know you were up here with us and you weren't able to un-mic or
unmute, but did want to ask if you're still there
if you yeah nice martin did you have anything that you wanted to add to the conversation
okay not at the moment okay that's fine um oh yes can hear you. Did you say you do or don't?
Okay, I don't really have enough to add to the conversation.
Just to say that it's actually a great opportunity uh for someone get to invest in the in gmi because um
i think i would say i'm leaving testaments of that because i investing you actually get to
see that um the way they we took the globe the global stats you see that um the jimmy actually is actually growing so i actually want
to kind of um encourage every other person out there to take opportunity because stuff like this
you actually think maybe it's a joke 20 years is too much who knows what will happen in the next
years but by the fact you kind of keep investing and investing and trusting the system and the technology that is being built by GMI.
I think it's actually been more positive results.
So that's why I really, really have confidence in this project.
And as an investor, I believe it's really working.
it's really working thank you martin for sharing your insight uh do you have more
no i wanted to say thank you martin for sharing uh for sharing your information um and sharing
you know as you're an investor,
you want to see the project grow as well. And that's important, you know,
and I have, I have been reading and, you know, I want to say this,
I mean, it's a little off topic, you know,
but just wanted to say it very quickly that the continent of Africa has many,
many, many, many young, young investors and young children.
The continent of Africa, I think people are sleeping on the continent of Africa.
Definitely a place of growth.
Definitely a place of young people and young innovators that we see here online as well as offline.
And so I wanted to say thank you to those who are investors from the continent of Africa, from any continent, of course, but definitely want to say here because I've been seeing so many innovators, so many young investors, and it's delightful to see that changing the trajectory of your life, of your family's life, is something that is so important.
that is so important and just to see how many youth are on the continent is so
important and so definitely tapping into the younger generations that are around
this is so important because they are the future and in order to be able to
hand the future over to our younger adults we have to make sure that that
they they're educated and learning and so to see any youth in here from
any continent, but I'm especially leaning towards the continent of Africa, I think is so important.
So love having these spaces, love having the education to educate everyone. I would love to
see even more youth. And I think I do see in a lot of spaces, there's like over 5,000, sometimes 10,000 people in some of the spaces that I see, you know, just talking about the who want to make their life and the lives of
others better. So
just want to say thank you to everyone who
has come in today. Let's bring
more people in here, more of these young
investors to learn more so
that they can be the future voices
of the project as well.
So bring your parents,
bring any and everybody in here
because crypto is for everyone.
I think there's somebody who did a mic.
I wanted to, I don't, it's really weird because I don't see anybody's mic.
I don't see anybody who's on mic, but I do hear something.
Oh, can you hear me Gabby?
Yes.
Oh, I can, but you're muted.
You look muted.
Oh, that might just be a lag on on your screen
yeah so uh just to give you an example um say i have a good community and i have a good token
right and i have good intentions i have good tokenomics and i have everything um up for me and i launched my project and and you know
i go through lp bonds and i slowly start building up liquidity for my community uh you know um i i
take lp bonds as a platform uh to you know build up my liquidity uh and i'm i'm growing my community and i'm building it
i can work slowly for the next three years um and or two years or a whole year and build up a
liquidity that lasts for 20 years even if if i do that for the next five years you know slowly
build up liquidity pour in the incentives um towards building up that liquidity i still have the
liquidity for the next 15 years that's a big time and that is that just gives you that just gives me
uh a stronger liquidity in the future for the next 15 years and that's that's really huge I mean you look at
the token charts of leading like very popular projects like Dex's or like you know
uh uh community coins I would call them uh and you see that they're 90 over 90 percent down
right now imagine you have that liquid infrastructure i'm i'm the smallest
fish right uh but i have a good community i have a good utility whatever however small of the domain
it is or however big of a domain it is like you know and i have the next 15 years i can focus
uh towards like you know my my utility my community my growth rather than having to worry about
like you know um like the liquidity or the token price crashing you know and then and then through
lp bonds i have that perpetual you know demand engine because you know every time you mint a
bond you know you are you're you're taking those tokens out of circulation
you're taking my tokens out of circulation for the next uh 20 years every bond that is minted
and my holder has a utility right um he's holding like say example like you know hundreds and
thousands of those tokens or even hundreds of those tokens right you can put you can put a little portion of it towards minting those bonds and then he is
you know getting those incentives he is you know providing that long-term liquidity which in turns
is like a flywheel effect right next five years majority of my token supply
gets absorbed through lp bonds and i have a stronger liquidity pool uh and i i really can
focus now on on on building and scaling that you know um um my project and uh in this process also
the way i see is i attract people that are like-minded to
i mean they're vested in the growth of the token and the project itself right so they're the
what i would call it as the stalwarts of my project so you are also attracting uh good people
uh and these are liquidity bastion i would i would call and then you know you go through spaces
you go through like you know you start promoting in this and then the third year you know your
liquidity starts growing I mean you go around and check like you know every small project they
barely have like you know five thousand to four thousand dollar worth of liquidity I work next
five years towards building that liquidity I'll have like half a million dollar worth of liquidity in those those pools you know
because of the incentives and everything going on and then i go around promoting you know what i'm
my work not only attracts uh traders but it also attracts investors right because they're trying
they're looking at the next shiny
object as well um and then they come and take a look at my token and they look at my token price
my liquidity and they want they want to buy right and i'm not and i'm not trapped into like you know
the centralized exchanges right because they are like you know i mean they're gonna one of their modus operandi is just
to prey on like you know smaller projects like me so this is this is what i see um a journey of a
you know a small project to like a mid-sized project to even a bigger project that is like you
know even if they work um next five, they have like 15 years of liquidity.
And guess what?
They don't have to pay for that.
Like, you know, so if I'm like project, I collaborated, I have a small project, I collaborated
with GMI.
I really don't have to pay for that liquidity infrastructure that I'm getting for the next
for that liquidity infrastructure that I'm getting for the next 15 years.
15 years.
You know what, Mari, thank you for that explanation.
You know, as I'm sitting here thinking as you're explaining, you know,
as you're explaining here, my thought process starts to become,
how do we get more of the youth in here to listen to this,
to become those investors?
I'm not saying that people in here are not youthful.
That's not what I'm saying at all.
But there's lots of spaces out here. And it's one thing to go into other spaces and promote your project.
But how do you market in an authentic way to say, hey, this is another way for you to learn about becoming an
investor long term. And I think financial, you know, education is so important, you know,
and to get out of that mind frame of like Mfifi said, you know, you just go and you, you know,
being a long term investor instead of just somebody who comes in and extracts value,
you know, because we're looking to put a dollar
in or something and hoping that it goes to, you know, some unreasonable amount of money,
but marketing to the youth and making them feel as though they are a part of this liquidity bond
process and, you know, making sure that they understand that safety is important, not that
you need to hammer it into anyone. That's not what I'm saying. It's just to get a basic understanding to the youth that, hey, here's an option and this is why it's important.
And sometimes you do pretty well on it and then other times you kind of miss it.
But I would love to either hear from Martin or Amfifi, and you could be part of the youth as well.
What is the type of marketing that you would say would be important as you're learning or reaching out to the youth, maybe in the continent of Africa or even Mark, if you have, you know, you know,
within India, you know, within the Asian continent, what is it that needs, how does marketing need to
be, you know, how does the mark, how should the marketing be to attract the youth? Because they're
the future, they're the future of these projects. When we're long gone, they have to know how to run these projects.
Of course, they get older, but they're much more malleable or able to be molded when they're young versus people who get older and set in their ways.
Is there any suggestion on marketing to bring the youth into these spaces or just to have their eyes and take a look at a project.
Would anyone have any ideas?
That's not a complicated question.
I'm hoping that.
I think it's just a matter of cultural shift and how you phrase phrase your marketing content right uh and that would attract the people the
the the crowd towards you so um what i feel here is like you know i mean you we've seen all of this
right you have you have people that follow traders um who are trying to make money
and then there are people who follow investors uh who are trying to uh you know build generational
wealth right so where does that you know you've seen those two segments of people so you have one
that is trading frequently buying selling buying selling all of that the the two segments of people so you have one that is trading frequently buying selling buying selling
all of that the the two schools of thoughts i would say um and uh crypto is is is like has a
culture more towards that and i wouldn't blame that because you know before that the nobody really
focused on healthy tokenomics right healthy liquidity like these
topics were like you know things of like nobody considered that everybody like the cultural sound
that comes from crypto is just like you know i want to buy something i want to hold it for two
years and then or maybe like a month or even um and just just buy me a lambo right so that that's
kind of like you know the the cultural the cultural sounds and the incentives are all the
incentives unfortunately are geared towards that culture and crypto right uh but if you if you look
at uh if you if you look at um you know the traditional uh equity markets like you know you you pick up you pick up anything
um there is hardly any investor i i think i just i just remember one of those um one of those guys
that just had a trading for i mean he he was like a statistician and and like with the whole team of
that so so the if you look at that there has hardly been generational wealth being built like on the
backbone of trading unless you are like a big giant institution or something like that like you know
then you can afford that but as for retail participation even as a mid-level participation
even certain institutions as well the generational wealth you see the compounding
happens with long-term holding right uh and that's the culture that that crypto is screaming
like literally i mean you can see that in your timeline as well uh this is very ironical right
you go and you look at the charts uh you you do this study for me okay go and study the charts of all the companies outside
of the crypto who's who's who's earning they call it EPS earning per share is growing every quarter
or just just go and check their revenues growing up 10% and their profit also going up like 10 to
5% and look at their chart okay unless it's
like an absolute like you know they're out of their like valuation range but if there is a steady
growth you'll see the chart almost going up that's that's what happens in traditional market and
why do you think that doesn't happen in crypto when there are so many projects that are actually making uh twice as more their market cap in
revenues like i'm these are just like solid figures in revenues they're making that
um and yet their chart is going down why why is that happening like you you see this you do this
experiment and you check it out and it all comes down to tokenomics okay uh it's it's very different from
the traditional equity market and and in here there is no incentives right there's no infrastructure
till now that was built towards like you know building that uh strong tokenomics strong liquidity
infrastructure strong demand engine strong lockup mechanism like
you know a strong focus on uh the charts trending upwards it was not there uh and you know all of
these things uh lp bonds uh lp bonds uh focuses on on those uh you know building your liquidity
infrastructure uh soaking up the tokens from
the existing supply for a very long time um helping the chart momentum go up providing
you long-term you know uh durable liquidity infrastructure so that's our marketing tone
uh we solve three problems right um there's uh shallow liquidity uh we we we uh we are the
liquidity infrastructure um weak token demand um um i mean the lp bonds infrastructure is built in
such a way that you know it's it's a demand engine for the partner tokens and then like you know the chart going down right so you know the
cell pressure we call it as everybody knows so these all the things are what LP bonds
solve that is our marketing tone and that is the kind of projects we we lp ones are major like a b2b model like a business to business model
right uh it's it's fractionally we piggyback through the uh the the the business right
uh into the retail space uh but it's not a direct uh b2c model um because community which are the
backbones of the projects uh the retail investors
participation is driven through that so our focus in marketing is towards like you know shifting
that having that cultural shift right uh building that long-term liquidity and while you're
participating in building that long-term liquidity you're helping that project go grow the token grow um you know so uh yeah that
that is where our marketing lies we are not promising like you know you buy a token and
you get a lambo next in the next two years or so not attracting that crowd it's not built for that
uh what it is built for is is uh from from uh you know organizations to users uh
and every participant in these uh um is is benefiting from from the long-term liquidity
so uh coming back to your question gabby that's that's our tone right we are um we are building on uh our marketing tone
is is uh towards these long-term liquidity participants uh and you know uh replicating
the model of the zero coupon bond right i mean uh why why do why why are zero coupon or like you know those bonds um what happens when those bonds are released
right uh because uh you soak up the liquidity from the market you know people pay to buy the bond so
you're actually extinguishing the supply of dollar for that period of time right so if you have a 20
year dollar bond that you go and buy in the market that you're going to get crude interest you're not going to get the crude interest uh in
year two or three like i mean in your hand you're going to get it after 20 years right
but what's happening is say you release like a trillion dollar worth of 20 year bond and
this is just a simple explanation there might be complexities into it so and it it is sold out
so what's happening or what happened effectively is here is you are effectively taking out like a
trillion dollars out of circulation for that those 20 years bonds and then you're not attracting now
you now you're attracting um you know um first of all the long-term holders and then you know first of all the long term holders and then you know I mean they're free to sell in the
market right so it also appeases to the short-term traders as well because they can buy they can trade
they can sell so I think LP bonds appease to both the cultural side but more you know predominantly
towards long-term liquidity builders and that's that's where you have the concept of trading that liquidity, right?
It brings in traders as well.
No, Mark, I appreciate that because, again, like you said,
it's more built for the business-to-business, B2B, instead of B2C.
Maybe some B2C could be built in there.
And I only say that because at some point you do need those consumers to purchase the bonds, right?
And then they go and tell their friends, you know, word of mouth is one of the best things that has ever happened.
You can email somebody, you can, you know, all day long, but people talk, right?
And so at some point, you know, the business to the consumer has to factor in there somewhere.
Because it's the people who need to be able to purchase the bonds, which adds more liquidity.
And then they share that information with someone else.
So it's like, how do you find that kind of fine balance?
Because the liquidity bonds and how you all explain them are great, are great.
But we do need to add liquidity. And so adding liquidity means I need
to encompass or incorporate, I need to incorporate the people, right? And so that's why community
matters so much. And we hear everything about community, community, community, but if we don't
cater to the community, how do they know, how do they share, how do we increase the liquidity?
how do they know how do they share how do we increase the liquidity so you know it's kind of
a catch-22 but i think it is uh important um you know to to bring people in here and to
understand the liquidity bonds as you all have laid out nicely and beautifully but i think the
business to consumer kind of you know there's there's opportunity there there's a lot of
incentives built in for that gabby and that's what i explained earlier right so you have uh
the airdrop mechanism built in i mean let's start with the with the fundamentals right uh when you're
looking at the bond say you are a user right you meet the bond you started a hundred dollars but do you think you're going to be a hundred dollars for a year from now uh not unless like there is a catastrophic even where
the token goes into that spiral right uh the partner token i mean gmi has so many pools so
the demand is like you know ongoing for for those those pools like that's how we have managed that managed it so you start with a with say a hundred
dollar bond but that bond does not stay a hundred dollars that's like the biggest incentive you're
also collecting trading fees in that so the assets in there are a lot of them are blue chip assets
right so if you're minting like an ether energy bond you're you're also collecting the fees you're also collecting the you know the the uh the yields um you know and the asset itself is growing over a
long-term uh period so when you're minting the bond especially in the bear market like you know
you are um you are you know uh you're gonna have a proportional increase in the bond value for a very long duration
so that's the first things that is happening uh your bond value is increasing right that's that's
an immediate incentive like every day the bond value just increases um the second thing is you
have incentives for participation right through the gmi airdrop uh you know you have the minting airdrop the bidding listing
airdrop like you know that that that that is we we have that and then also you know it's just not
you you bringing in your network and then you are getting rewarded for that as well right you have a
three three three level uh referral engine that's going on um you bring in your friends you bring in your family
you i mean imagine like this happening uh with the community right a closely knit community with a
token project like they're just gonna bring in more you know you're incentivized to bring your
network over right within your own community and then obviously there is uh the last part is our our scaling
engine where we we just activated it right so minting uh you know monthly rewards uh paid out
cash like you know we're building on that so uh you know while we have built the infrastructure
that is targeted more toward the b b2b model. And it also benefits that a significant portion
of our incentives is also geared towards
like the retail customers, right?
If we targeted both of those entities altogether.
And Mark, and we do, we love airdrops,
we love incentives.
But maybe I was just, maybe I should have said the social aspect.
When I said talk about the social aspects, just not getting rewards, but getting people in here to talk and have a conversation.
You know, we don't ever want to lose the aspect of people just coming in to speak or even meeting in person, you know, to say, hey, you know, you're a real person.
It's great to see all these airdrops, but the actual human connection to connection,
that business to connect, which Tommy is going to do at the founder's house with Arbitrum,
it's that part I feel like is, you know, bringing the actual person in here to come and speak,
you know, and to make that connection. Because again,
airdrops and money is wonderful, but don't want to ever lose the aspect of just connecting to other humans is just as important, you know, and I think we've lost a lot of that with the essence
of just being on the internet. We can have a conversation, but, you know, we're all still
people behind these PFPs, right? So, but love how you explained it as far as it's business to consumer,
as far as getting airdrops, you know, being part of a discord or telegram when you can't meet
people. You can have, you know, you can see each other on telegram if you want to host something
or, you know, anything like that, you can play games together, but it's getting them into these
spaces to really talk about, Hey, this is what our energy ecosystem is doing, and how do you feel about it, and have
those candid discussions out in the open, you know, where, you know, some people are in discourse,
some people are in telegram, you know, most people come out and to, you know, to Twittersphere,
and like I said, I go into some of those rooms, and there are people there, and everybody wants
to get on stage, and they can't have everybody on stage, but there's always something that's nice to hear when people contribute to the conversation.
But yeah, I was probably thinking more of the social aspect of getting them in here
in the spaces to be able to begin to understand and get that teach back moment
where you explain something and they're able to explain it back to you,
it back to you, which means they understand and they can possibly go out and teach others.
which means they understand and they can possibly go out and teach others.
So, you know, that's kind of, I think, more of where I was looking to, but love everything that
Energy is doing as far as to lay out the groundwork for people to be able to participate,
to understand, but it's the actual humans that are connecting with each other saying, hey,
I am an investor. I'm not a dev. I don't work on a team, but I'm just your average everyday person who goes to work.
And I want to invest in something that I feel is safe.
And for somebody to say, hey, I'm the average Joe as well or Jane.
And I go to work too.
And I decided to invest in this project.
I think more voices like that are needed and are necessary in order for this area to grow
because a lot of people, they are developers and have their own projects, but it'd be nice to hear
that someone says, you know what, I'm new to the space. I, you know, I go to work every day, but I
want to invest in your project. Why should I? And for someone who's just an average retail investor,
not a dev, you know, to explain why they did what they did, which makes people feel a little bit
more comfortable. When you have vested interest, it does slight the view just a tad bit. But
again, just getting people in here to talk about it, to know that they have options and that these
options are available. Let's wrap up. We're over two hours here. And I want to do a call with you and Mark as
well. So let's wrap up the space here. Sure. Well, thank everybody for coming out. I tried to invite
Zaki back up to play us out if he's able to, but if not, that's okay. I did not even notice it. We
were a couple minutes over, almost 10 minutes um thank you so much for coming in and
we will have a space again next uh in april uh on the first and please make sure to listen back to
the space invite others to come along and uh be a part of the project so i wanted to turn it over to
uh sulzaki or mark or um or tommy we can just write about music. It's okay.
All right. Well, thank you so much for coming out and we'll see everybody the 1st of April.
Thank you so much for coming and we'll see you next time. Thank you guys.
Thank you, everyone.
