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GMI: LP Bonds Revolutionizing DeFi continued
Recorded: Sept. 28, 2025 Duration: 2:30:19Space Recording
Short Summary
Energy is making significant strides in the crypto space with new partnerships, a focus on security, and upcoming token launches, all aimed at fostering growth and community engagement.
Full Transcription
Thank you. you hey so zach you you wanna do the music?
Yeah. I got to stick to my girls like glue and I'm and I play number two All I know this time it is getting jet
Need a lot of trees up in my head
And a lot of dental in my bed to run that real head
Pulling up flick a girl, the body road them got the goody goody
I stick me up and tell them that they got the woody woody
Front way back where you cut the game and I'll show you show you
Virgin them walk in me and they have to talkie talkie
Hot girls out the road I say say dem simi-simi
And I tell me, say dem have something for gimme-gimme
How much a man like dem all a jean-bow, the jimmy-jimmy
Dem a promise, and I tell me, say of demy-fimmy
But a promise is a compare to a fool, so cool
All he done know, say that man, I feel roll, this cool
When I bet dem just wet dem up just like a fool
When I dig me to remy, I feel something toad
But I don't really care what people say I don't really watch what them want do
Still I got to stick to my girls like glue and I'm a play number two
All I know is that I'm just getting jazz Need a lot of trees up in my head No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no I want you to breathe me
Let me be your air did the music stop or is it me okay i thought it was me i said okay i'm i'm
bragging and i did say in the back i can't hear anything so uh i think uh so zaki is trying to connect again oh he's up here speaker
i do see him so zaki are you there
testing can you hear me
if you can't hear me you might need to take a quick lap and come back up with us because we can't hear you or the music.
See, he might be stuck.
Let's remove him from speaker and then we can try to bring him back up again.
How are you today?
Tommy, is that you or is that Mark?
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, it's me.
Hey, glad to have you here.
So Zach, you will need him to request to come back up again.
I don't see him.
I know there was an update to Twitter. So if you did not update your phone,
I would ask that you please update your phone
because you'll have problems if you don't. Good call. Thanks for that.
Oh, you're welcome. I'm always trying to keep an eye out, you know, to help everybody. So
please retweet the space if you can. We do have more than four people in here. So we would love
for you to repost the space,
reset the room, and we'll get the music started here in a moment. I mean, just, you know, chit
chat while we're here, you know, just came out of another space, Tommy. So been up since eight
o'clock this morning, great spaces, like some shill spaces, uh, to get more projects out here.
So I'm super excited for that. How is that space? That? I got to jump on that space sometime.
Please do.
And the reason why I say that is that projects are, you know, they're talking about who they are and what they're doing in the space.
And there's been some really great projects coming through that aren't really getting the publicity.
Or, you know, they go into other spaces, raise their hands, they never get called on.
So they actually have a two-minute pitch.
And within that two-minute pitch, you know, they tell us about their project, they repost, and we're asking
everybody to follow everyone so that their project can get a little notoriety. Of course, we always
tell people, do your own research. But you know how that goes. You have to do your research. And
there's a lot of good projects out here that you would just never think were out here because they
just don't get the exposure and they don't get the follows. So I would love, love, love for you to jump in, you,
Mark, Solzacki, music, you know, to come into the space and listen to some of those projects because
they could be projects that could be on GMI. So for the protection and considering that they're
small too. A lot of them are small and just getting started. Young, very young
founders that are just, you know, looking for the exposure. And, you know, of course, someone had
mentioned safety. And I was like, oh my gosh, Tommy, you need to be here. You need to be here
and listen to some of these projects. Well, right on. Thanks for that. I'll definitely
try to make more attempt to be there. I've been meaning to. It's just been
so absurdly hectic. I literally just got in Singapore and I'm randomly walking around right
now. That is okay. We've got your back. We're here. We've got you. And yeah, when you come
into that space, you'll be surprised at how many great people are out there and how much talent is
out there. Even people building on Bitcoin ordinals and safety and trying to protect liquidity i think i must send that project to you
so that you can take a look at it but uh that was the um group that uh was saying that they're
very young out here and the founder's very young and you know trying to protect liquidity and i
said well that's right up Tommy's alley.
Yes.
Right on.
I think we have Stolezaki back.
Go ahead, Tommy.
Sorry.
No, no.
Do you want to do a little more music?
We can't, Stolezaki.
That's your cue, Stolezaki.
Send us the music. Glad you're back.
You might still be having a few mic problems, and that's okay.
Please repost the space if you can. Get more people in here.
We'll be getting started momentarily, and we'll make sure Sozaki's here.
Sozaki, if you're here...
Uh-oh, I think we lost you again. We heard some music coming, something coming. Look back at it all for me She like a Yeah, we don't want to go
Yeah, we don't want to go
Yeah
Because you know I'm all about that bass
No trouble
I'm all about that bass, about that bass, no trouble I'm all about that bass, about that bass, no trouble
I'm all about that bass, about that bass, no trouble
I'm all about that bass, about that bass, they say, say, true
Yeah, it's pretty clear, I ain't no size to it
But I can shake it, shake it, like I'm supposed to do
Cause I got that boom boom that all the boys chase
And all the right junk in all the right places
I see the magazine working at Photoshop
We know that shit ain't real, come on now make it stop
If you got beauty, beauty, just raise them up
Cause every interview is perfect from the bottom to the top
Yeah, my mama shit told, don't worry about your side.
She says, boys, like a little more booty to hold.
And I wouldn't give it to you.
And I know that you got everything, but I got nothing here without you, baby.
So one last time, I need to be the one who takes you home.
One more time, I promise after that, I'll let you go.
And I don't care if you got heart in your heart
I really care if you wake up in my eyes
One last time
I need to be the one who takes you home
I know I should have fought it
At least I'm being honest, hey.
But stay with me a minute, I swear I'll make it worth it, babe.
Cause I don't wanna be without you.
So one less day I need to be the one who takes your home. Oh I really care when you wake up in my eyes
One last time
I need to be the one who takes your home
One last time
I need to be the one who takes your home
I always remember
The day you kissed my lips Bites a feather Makes you home
Just like this Dancing on the hood in the middle of the world For the longest time when we sang Songs with all our children and friends
And it went like this, they hope
I don't know, I didn't know I'm from singing my father
If you wanna go and take a ride with me
Better hit me baby one more time
I made a picture for you to be on the stage when we were young
Singing at the top of both so long On the day we fell low Oh middle of the world I'm just late for New York Hanging at the top of my solo
On the day we fell alone
On the day we fell alone
On the day we fell alone
On the day we're gonna know Till you go
Summertime sadness
I just wanted you to know
That baby you the best
I got my red dress on tonight
Dancing in the dark in the dimmer night
Dime my hair up real big beauty queen style
High heels off, I'm feeling alive
Oh my god, I feel it in the air, feeling from wires
Above, I sizzle like a snare
Honey, I'm on fire
I feel it everywhere, nothing scares me anymore
One, two, three, four
Kiss me, I'll be beautiful
Summertime is fabulous
I just want you to know
That baby you can be best
I got the summertime, summertime sadness
S-s-sumertime, summertime sadness
I got summertime Summertime sadness
So, oh, oh
I'm feeling the electric tonight
Cruising down the coast
Going down at night
Got my back, baby, by my head
In this eye
I know if I go
I'll die happy tonight
Oh my god, I feel it in the air
To live for wires above
I'm sizzling like a sail
Honey, I'm on fire
I feel it everywhere
Nothing scares me anymore
One, two, three, four
Kiss me up before you go
Summertime sadness
I just want you
Thank you so much, Lilzaki.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for the music.
I know there are more people in here.
We want you to repost the space, bring your friends, tag a couple people, bring them in. We have to find out what's going on in energy's world and space. We had a great space last week. If you missed it, I'm sure we can possibly recap it for you. But hey, you can always go back and listen to the recorded space about safety. Oh, it was awesome because that's what's the new, you know, that's the new mantra now.
Safety in this space is so important.
So we're so excited to be here today and also to be able to share with you what's going on with energy
and going to make it marketplace and any new developments that have been happening on the chain,
on chain, as we love to say as we're here.
I wanted to welcome everybody here today and say good morning to everyone.
So I will pass the mic over to Mark.
How are you this morning?
Good to see you.
How have you been doing?
Hey, Gabby.
Hey Gabby, good morning. It's really beautiful morning.
Good morning.
It's a really beautiful morning.
Yep, same as last week, pushing some very important changes to GMI
and doing a lot of testing last week along with a lot of writing
along with a lot of deck presentation as you guys might have known.
If you follow Tommy carefullyy carefully you know just
read out he will be in token 2049 in singapore representing energy so you know we'll be making
some very aggressive exposed on our account we're sharing a lot of pictures uh we have a lot of
partners uh that uh you know we'll be meeting in token token 2049 a lot of news actually coming around
so if anybody is watching energy you can see how much dedicate dedication a founder can have you
can see that right in front of our eyes like you know uh never giving up attitude since the project was you know launched right up till now and more and
more innovation coming on as we speak I think Tommy talked to you guys last week about the
layered approach on GMI we I think I think on the technical side you know things have been moving real real fast
um and there might be some more updates from tommy i don't know whether he wants to uh
um you know talk more anything about like the other technical integration but
so far things are looking good and yes you are right about the spaces you know you know gabby people
tell me uh a lot of times like they come and they you know send me those those words like hey i want
to build a career in web3 what is your suggestion how can i be like you know known in the space and
how can i build my career in uh web3 i'm i'm a i'm a developer i'm a community moderator i'm a you know i'm a marketing person
like you know but i want to build a career in web3 i first ask them do you have an x account
that's just like my first primary question uh and if they say no then that's the first step
and if they do have an x account and i tell them is it active when was the last time you posted and you don't need to post a very lengthy post
it just like you know even a simple post like a gm with the grass on it will be completely fine
be the reply person you know support the projects around you and if you have passed this
step while you're doing all of this please attend the spaces you know go to other people's spaces
you don't need to do that all the time sometimes you know life would get busy but when you are free
do go attend those spaces make your presence felt okay talk to people talk to a lot of lot of people
and this is how you build actually the career
in web3 by being in the trenches like you know you show your presence i've literally seen a lot
of people that uh just a year and a half ago didn't people didn't even knew who they were
and now they are pretty good celebrities in the space like you know so you go through these
micro communities you talk to them you build up
your entire you know uh stuff around there's no excuse and uh just just uh stay consistent um
winners are built in consistency not luck because luck can favor you once or twice but consistency favors you every day
you know just just show up every day stick with the thick and thin understand why the project is
pivoting from this from a certain you know sector or certain space to another space because you know
the opportunity might have just dried up in that space and there's
nothing there more competition you might just move into another space where there is very less
competition you create something new and then you build up and that's what we are doing with lp bonds
mark i love that you start us off with morning and going straight to it i love that i just wanted
to say you know you're right. Building that career and,
you know, in Web3, being in the trenches, that's a real thing, you know. So, we do want people to show up, stay consistent, attend spaces, tag people. And people will say, well, you're replying,
you know. Some people might think, hey, you're replying too much. You're not replying enough.
Reply to your personal, you know, reply to your personal behaviors that you would like
to reply to. That's how you get known. These blue checks, they have analytics behind them.
So, you know, you can monetize here. So it's like, what are you doing if you're not trying
to monetize here, if you're not building? So I really do thank you for that. I'm going straight
into it. And so I really just wanted to piggyback off that, but I wanted to continue to say good
morning here because we have more people on the panel and we have the founder who is behind the Energy account. You guys,
this is a treat to have Tommy here in spaces in general. Really appreciate him being here.
Really appreciate Mark, the developers, because you take time out of your busy day to spend with
us. You're not having someone else behind the account. You're having yourselves behind the
account and you're working on a project. So I know you said you're having uh yourselves behind the account and you're
working on a project so i know you said you're in singapore and you were doing something you
just landed like tommy how are you doing how are you feeling are you awake
yeah no the time zone's fine i just don't know where i am so i like left my hotel and wandered
over to a park and i'm sitting it's of peaceful here. It's a tranquil little park here.
So it's good.
Yeah, I haven't been to Singapore in a few years.
So good to be here.
Really excited for all the events.
I'm going to a few events tomorrow, and then the official conference is the day after and the day after that.
So, yeah, really excited to connect with people and you know share our innovations you know i always
reflect on it you guys it's the journey there's a lot to be said about the journey you go on and
and whatnot and it's just so funny to me i posted earlier today you know there's a new project
called xpl or something and i just heard of it plasma i like never heard of it before really and it was all over the timeline and um and so i was like okay let me just go learn a little
bit about this project right and i go to the website and this first thing i see there's like
institutional grade security and that like i'm like really okay interesting because i'm always
interested if someone says security right so then i like I go to the AI and I'm like,
hey, Mr. AI, so how do they do their security?
Is it anything like what we have?
And they're like, basically,
they're doing some custody solution or something.
And it's like, no, it doesn't compare
to what you have security-wise.
I'm like, huh, it's just hilarious to me.
It's absolutely hilarious.
To bring it all back, the reason I'm bringing it up
is because it's a journey, man, and you can solve a massive problem in this world i pioneered
decentralized enforcement or on-chain enforcement whatever you want to call it because i own both
the terms but i created that and you would think like like man you create something like that
like people are putting that in like the second line of their website while they're
throwing around billions of dollars.
Like the actual product that actually does that, that would actually, but the whole point
of the journey is, uh, no, man, it ain't, it ain't a straight road.
Most certainly not.
And, uh, and, and don't expect, uh, don't expect it to be easy.
You know, uh, you know, don't expect, uh, don't expect it to be easy. You know,
uh, you know, think things kind of like along those lines and, you know, but as I reflect on journey, we've gone down and, you know, going, going through that. And, um, again, still waiting
for people to appreciate security. It's, it's inevitable. I love that word inevitable you know that's when you feel
like when you're on track but that being said not waiting for that and then you know building an nft
marketplace and that's cool and we could we could really push that direction if we want to just like
being an nft marketplace i don't know if you guys saw but a lot of nft marketplaces are increasing
fees right now uh magic eden uh increased their I think, from half a percent to one percent.
And Magic Eden, I think, increased their fees from like half a percent to two percent or something like that.
So, you know, the marketplaces are ramping up their fees.
We have a marketplace and we can come in very competitive at zero fees.
We want to focus on that because we have a really lean team.
Like those guys have a lot of overhead,'t they can't compete with us on that so i mean that's kind of a door
we've really kind of uh pivoted to uh the lp bonds because um i think it's uh the most powerful angle
to focus on and i just love the fact that we can go in and help so many projects and and that really is the
frame of mind i'm coming from is again and i think it's very important for us to to be that way when
you're being genuine and and because there's so many people in the crypto space that um that are
coming from a value-taking mindset and i see this clearly now i didn't see it before you know i just
kind of try to assume the best in people.
But there is a lot of value taking in this space.
What do I mean by that?
Extraction.
That's another word to put it.
I mean, people are coming in and they're looking to basically just get the money as quickly as possible and have no real intention of providing long-term value.
That's what I mean.
And unfortunately, you all need to be
very careful and aware of that in this space i mean we saw it ourselves we just taught ourselves
too we had those guys on our space that one time it was that that one like ai video project you
know they come on there it's cool little thing he could have he could have totally pushed that
push that thing but no he just got like a tiny bit of money i shouldn't say a tiny bit but i think it was like 100 grand maybe 50 or 100 grand and then just
like i shocks me how people and he was like getting traction and stuff it's like
like why are people so short-sighted too many people in this space are too short-sighted
and anyway i could i could go on forever there's a lot of
tangents here to talk about but i guess to uh to center it you know it's uh yeah again it's just
been it's been quite a journey from you know building the blockchain and now there's so many
blockchains out there and and it takes a lot of resources you guys to build uh a blockchain and
maintain and do all the stuff you have to do.
It's really intensive.
So, you know, we have energy.
We have a security-focused blockchain.
I think eventually it's going to be recognized.
Eventually it's going to be, you know, adopted.
We're still, I think, again, institutions are going to be the big door there because they actually really need security.
they actually really need security um but meanwhile while we're waiting for that kind of
gear to click in um you know we have built a really another really cool thing which is our
nft marketplace our lp bonds and you know what i love about lp bonds and by the way last last i'm
gonna do on this one because last one we did i got uh i got disconnected when i was sharing the
upgrade system the derivative system
so i'm going to share that with you guys again just to for you but um i just love that we can
come from this place of helping people truly you know be like hey you know what the biggest problem
is you're going to face as a token and your token dumped and short-term holders and stuff like that
so we come in there and that's the first problem we solve.
You join an LP bond,
those tokens are off the market for 10 years.
That's the first problem.
Second problem we solve is reduce the sell pressure.
Oh, sorry, that's what I just said.
Take those tokens off market.
Second problem we solve,
which actually should be the first thing I say,
is a TVL bringing long-term TVL,
which is another huge problem,
and finally increasing demand for their token.
And, you know, GMI is the ground level, you guys.
And right now it's at a tenth of a cent,
and there's a floor at that level.
So it's not going to go below
where it is not financial advice or anything.
But, yeah, so the reason I'm saying that is we work with partners is they have a lot of upside to work with us.
So that's how we designed it.
So let me kind of pause there and welcome thoughts, questions, comments.
So, yeah, I don't see any questions as of right now.
So I want people to kind of post a space.
And Tommy, I just want to say you're exactly right.
Helping projects with the TVL, helping people, increasing the drive and demand for tokens,
that's important because like you said last time, there's a liquidity problem. We have liquidity
problems. And I think when I'm learning from other spaces and going into other spaces, as you have previously mentioned that, you know,
we need to venture out, see what projects are out there is that we need to take this information to
the people. Sometimes in these spaces, we become echo chambers and we need to take the information
to the people. So I'm super excited about even going, you know, having ShebaFest. And I will
post something about ShebaFest because what we're able to do with being boots on the ground is
introduce some of these projects on board people, you know, through different avenues and even talk
to people who are already crypto knowledgeable that already have wallets. I've met several people
in the past couple of days that have had wallets, but they're not online. So I'm like, how are they
learning? And then I'm like how are they learning and
then I'm finding out they're learning through YouTube you know through a YouTube channel they're
not on necessarily on the internet but they're learning crypto some way somehow and I've even
had people ask for classes and I'm like oh my goodness so this is an opportunity for those of
us who are boots on the ground in our local states and cities, and Charlotte is a big metropolitan city, is that this is a way for us to be able to bring, you know, energy,
GMI, crypto checks, you know, and other projects to other people within our community.
So I really want to say that that's so important to not forget those who are really working hard in their states and cities.
We're in North Carolina and we're The Shiba Sequoia Forest is in Michigan,
and we're in North Carolina, and we're in Virginia.
And we have Dosey.
Dosey's an audience there.
He is traveling all around with the Shiba Sequoia Forest and spreading the news, helping to onboard people.
We have Crypto Queen who will be coming to help onboard people too
through Ship Women and Crypto Chicks.
So it's so important that we get out here
about the people in the community and take that information to the people so not everybody
is online and we do appreciate those who are online who are spreading the word but we need
to reach those masses and how we're going to do it is put those boots on the ground and
i'm telling you it is not easy work i don't know anybody else who might be boots on the ground. And I'm telling you, it is not easy work. I don't know anybody else who might be boots on the ground.
I do know Gummy Invasions is out there.
And there's quite a few projects.
We'd love to see those postings, those storytellings
of how we help people on board
and make sure that they're safe.
So we need to get the word of safety out there too.
So we also want to introduce new projects,
but ones that we feel safe with, ones that we're invested with, but not to provide financial advice, but to bring people in who are very new.
Denea, who came in last week, she's very new to crypto.
You know, she has her own radio show, but she's new to crypto.
So she's following Jenny and myself, Crypto Queen and myself around because we are providing a safety mechanism with being consistent in the spaces.
So people, follow people who are consistent.
So those who are online, we want to be that beacon of light for them so that they can continue to go into safe projects and not be rubbed and stuff like many of us have been.
I think we need to start healing.
So it starts with all of us who are consistent in this space. So we want to thank everybody for coming out um and thank you for sharing that
tommy and i also wanted to uh go over to sulzaki really quick to see how he's doing if he's here oh
i think he's dropped down the listener so if he's not here i'll invite him back up to speak but go
back over to you tommy with um thanking you and i can't wait to see pictures from Singapore 2049.
I'm like, whoa.
But you're talking about going to the super future.
That is definitely it.
How did they come up with that?
Do you know how they came up with Singapore 2049?
We're in 2025.
That's so fun.
I was talking to my Grab driver, like Uber here.
On the way here, I was like,
I don't know how they came up with 2049.
I guess it's something we could probably ask the all-knowing AI,
but I don't know.
I don't know how they came up with 2049,
but yeah, it's super cool.
And by the way, if you guys haven't been to these conferences,
let me tell you guys a cool trick.
There's always groups for them right usually on telegram and
then they have these sheets these like um excel sheets floating around and they have like all the
side events on there maybe not all of them but probably most of them and so you go to the
conference for sure you know go to the conference but i think there's like a thousand side side
events here it's nuts so and then the app for that is like luma so you go on the app and uh
can find like all these side events and stuff like that so it's pretty cool so yeah you go to
the conference but you also it's just like action-packed for like i don't know four or five
days um so yeah really really cool if you guys make it to some of these conferences definitely
get in a group or you know get a hold of one of those sheets and uh and then you could see all
the events so um yeah i'll be i'll be uh i'll start bopping in and out of them tomorrow so um
let's see here what else uh i do want to i do want to talk about that uh the upgrade system
we have for the bonds because that's coming out i guess i'll just give
you guys a quick update on where we're at with dev um we're kind of uh so we have lp bonds deployed
and we have that for a couple pools you guys have seen gmi e uh energy e and also for hello labs and
we're basically kind of in final stages of testing everything, make sure everything's working smooth and all that before pushing it really hard.
And then kind of the next phase we're going into is, yeah, just doing pilot pools of partners.
And I'll again just give you guys a call to action again if you guys know good token communities,
especially ones that are a bit more established.
I'm a little bit leery of
new ones because you just never know with how serious they are. But either way, you guys know
good communities and they want to get some of those benefits like long-term liquidity,
like reducing the sell pressure, like increasing demand for their token. It's a win-win.
A win-win. And that's basically what we want. So it's really, again, very cool that we've gone
down that road, creating the NFT marketplace, but then within the NFT marketplace, not just
trading normal NFTs, but liquidity pool positions. So yeah, that's kind of the latest we're at with tech. Mark, I don't know if you want to add anything to it.
I think, yeah, I think, Tommy, we could talk something about the UI because, you know, it's much better if people in the community
know early what we are building and they can understand what we
are building so i mean uh i i see community as a very strong arm of uh you know project marketing
itself like i used to do it when i was part of just just being part of the community and i would
just tweet out when i started my uh x account in like 2020 i would just tweet out uh so uh i think with the layering uh
uh you know the layering process or the upgrade of the lp bonds um and correct me if i'm wrong tommy
uh it will be a once a month event so it will happen only on a particular day is that correct
to upgrade your lp bonds at a
particular level so let me so let me share how this works guys this is this is the really cool
thing and i'll tell you i told you guys maybe before on this but this is like one of those
things that just came to me you know kind of like lp bonds themselves and it's so powerful so i want
you guys to understand it because it's really really cool it's it's basically what it is it's really, really cool. It's basically what it is. It's a demand driver for the GMI token.
And it's like a self-propelling flywheel, if you will.
So let's explain how it works.
I was trying to explain it last space
and then my internet cut out.
So, okay.
So the way these LP bonds work.
So first of all, again, they got to
be uniform. So why do they need to be uniform? Because you got to cater to traders and keep the
market liquid. So anytime someone makes an LP bond, we create an Oracle for it first. And the
target price for the Oracle LP bond is a hundred bucks. So for example, $50 ETH, $50 GMI, right?
So a hundred dollar target price, that's the initial price now that's
going to fluctuate because the way liquidity positions work is when the underlying assets
move up or down the value of the lp will fluctuate as well so both assets go up you know the lp
position may go from 100 to 150 or whatever or more if it goes down, then they go down in value.
Or if one asset goes up and the other goes down,
it might stay about the same.
That's how they fluctuate in value.
But the target price to start is $100, okay?
So, and again, the reason you want them
to be uniform like that.
So if someone comes in like say three months from now,
maybe the price will be $150 instead of $100.
That's the price to mint one bond okay so what
happens is they can take that bond right and then they can upgrade that bond and remember with the
with the level one bond the base level bond they're getting 100 apy that's accruing within the bond
if they upgrade the bond let's say the let's say the price of the bond is $100, you have to pair with an equal amount of GMI, $100 GMI.
Now the bonds were $200, and there's also a 20% upgrade fee on that. So why do you want to pay
the upgrade fee? Because if you do that, now you're getting 150% APY. So you can take that
level two bond and pair it with $200 or an equivalent amount of GMI to the value of the bond,
$200 or an equivalent amount of GMI to the value of the bond and you have a level three bond and
that bond pays 200% APY and they all have a 20% upgrade fee. You can take a level three bond and
upgrade it to level four. So you pair with $400 of GMI that gets 250% APY. So what we've created
here is if the way I explained it before and really where it came from is from the concept
of derivatives
uh from calculus i took calculus in high school it's been a long time but it was one of the things
i actually enjoyed the most in calculus was the concept of derivatives it's really interesting
again if you guys don't know um you take the derivative of position okay and you get velocity
you take derivative of velocity you get acceleration
you take the derivative of acceleration you get jerk so imagine that like imagine a rocket ship
right rocket ship taking off the position is where it's at so the derivative of the position
is again the velocity uh velocity is um how fast it's moving acceleration is the derivative of that
acceleration is how fast is that velocity changing and then the derivative of that is
jerk which is how fast uh is the uh is the acceleration changing they like literally
brought those concepts into crypto liquidity which is crazy and like you know you guys know it's actually interesting
like people don't think about physics and stuff tying to money but if you i'm going to do a youtube
video on this because i've been meaning to do this for months but if you ever look at a chart
of anything and actually it's a lot easier to see on a closer time frame money actually spirals
through time if you look at a chart you know how you see go up and down?
It's not just going up and down.
It's actually spiraling.
And you can see that if you go to a close enough timeframe.
I've seen it so many times.
I want to do video because it's fascinating.
And by the way, I asked AI
if anyone talked about that in the past.
It's like no one's talked about it.
So I might be the first in the world
to talk about how money spirals through time.
But it spirals.
It doesn't go just up and down. It spirals through time um but it spirals it doesn't
go just up and down it spirals so if you start thinking about financial concepts not just as like
black and white but almost in like a physics related physics way makes it really interesting
and so those are some of the concepts that we're like bringing forth like this uh again idea of
bringing derivatives and uh velocity acceleration and jerk to liquidity pools.
And so, by the way, what happens with all this?
It's not just an art show.
The reason why we're doing this is numerous reasons.
But the first one is when you upgrade those levels of bonds, you're creating a liquidity for each level.
Because, you know, bond, you have to buy and sell one whole bond at a
time at the level two what happens is that bond gets burned you get a level two bond back but
your level one bond gets burned and instead of having a level one bond now it actually becomes
an erc20 token one for one so one bond becomes one token one erc20 token and that is now in a liquid
pool on a debt so So you can now go
buy a fraction of a bond. You could buy a hundredth of a bond or a thousandth of a bond. And that's
really the concept behind it is to make these bonds highly liquid. So we're not just, again,
not just doing it for fun, but to really make it more useful, make it more accessible, make it more
liquid, right? And then the other part of that is
what this does is it creates incentive for people to want to move up the uh the levels to upgrade
the levels because you're getting a higher apy at higher levels right and when people move up and
upgrade their bonds to higher levels it increases the demands for the bonds on the lower levels and
this is where the concepts of physics kind of start
playing around with it right we talked about again uh velocity acceleration and jerk so as you go
further out on these levels of bonds they're going to be crazier they're going to be more volatile
and they can they can go crazy so far out on like a level four bond because it has a higher yield
um it can become um you know there could become a premium on that on that bond and
then that premium actually cascades down to the lower levels so when the level level four bonds
become high value the demand for level three bonds increases people want to mint level three bonds
and then the demand for level two bonds increases people want to mint more level two bonds to catch
up to that and that increases demand for level one bonds and ultimately increases demand for level two bonds increases. People want to admit more level two bonds to catch up to that. And that increases demand for level one bonds
and ultimately increases demand for GMI.
So I'm telling you guys,
the flywheel we created for the GMI token
is some next level shit.
Excuse my language.
I ain't seen nothing like this in a space,
but we're still just kind of a baby or whatever.
Pretty unknown.
But I think our time is going really soon.
We'll get a couple partners going with
this which we're pretty much on the precipice of people start seeing it in action people start
seeing what it just does to the price not setting any financial expectations and uh
yeah were you saying something mark
or someone saying something no tommy i think that pretty much like sums up um and i think you've
given a lot of information i think we did it we did a test pilot phase also with the gmi
eat and the yeah you know the uh sorry the energy eat and the uh i think we have another gmi eat pool
uh on ethereum uh for those of you guys who are tuning in for the first time
i'll pin up the the the uh the pool link you guys can check it out you guys can mint you guys can
trade uh you guys can uh actually look it up uh and you can actually look also see how much TVL it currently holds.
So we've done with minimal marketing.
We have, you know, launched both the pools, the pilot pools, and we're still testing it.
We're improving a lot and a lot of features on the UI.
You will see that if anybody is, so this is what I usually do is I will just record the, you know, our entire journey.
I take screenshot and all of that.
And I have a record of when we were first going to the point where, you know, you had to deposit the liquidity, take that LP, NFT, and then lock it up.
So now you don't have to do that.
So just two months ago, we were at that phase,
and now we are at the point where we are, you know,
upgrading the brawn process to the next level, as Tommy highlighted.
And I want to just say or ask, more or less uh if the levels are they available now or when is that
going to be put into place is that something that you can do now yeah thank you for thanks for
bringing that up yeah thanks for bringing it up so um that is kind of um i don't know what
percentage i would call it developed i would say over over 50%, hopefully. I don't know.
Kind of hard to put a number on it with some of these dev things.
But all the blueprints are all there.
I think the smart contract development should be done this week,
but we still have to plug it in into front and back end with the UI and stuff.
So I don't know when to give an exact time frame.
If I were to say, like, to be safe, definitely within the next two months.
I mean, I might be giving too much space there,
but I've learned that through development.
Better to say two months and then do it in a month
and say one month and get it done in two.
So I would say probably between one to two months it will be live.
And then it will be right on the Mint page.
So when you guys go to mint lp bonds
i might i don't know we got we're we're figuring out the ui how to do it but we might make it like
the right half of the screen because the left half is like minting bonds the right half might
be the upgrade system but then of course we have currently some holdings there on the right side
so we're still playing with ui but um the way i'm currently planning and the subject to change is because of these
factors how there can be uh you know how how they affect each other um my current plan again
subject to change but i'm thinking to have one week to upgrade the bonds per month so week one
of the month the first the first week of the month um you can upgrade level one to level two second week of the month you can upgrade level two to level three third week of the month, you can upgrade level one to level two.
Second week of the month,
you can upgrade level two to level three.
Third week of the month,
you can upgrade level three to level four.
Fourth week of the month is just off.
So that's your off week.
And then that just resets every month.
So what it does is it creates a window of time.
And that creates kind of an opportunity
for these arbitrage and gaps to fill.
So let me give an example.
Let's say someone starts off with it and week by week they get to level four.
Now they have a level four bond.
It's going to be a month before someone can upgrade a level four bond again.
And it's possible like the value of those level four bonds go crazy during that time.
Again, not financial advice or anything.
This is just kind of what I'm imagining could happen.
Um, and then, uh, and what that will do when people see that is like, oh crap, I got to hurry
and get level three bonds because next time around, I want to upgrade it to level four.
And so it creates demand for level three.
And as I described before, this cascading effect and that cascading effect goes all
the way back down to the base GMI because ultimately people have to buy more GMI to
do the bond upgrades.
So that's where the flywheel is just crazy i'm really really excited to see in action again this is another
next level thing that um no one's no one's on this level man um you have to have a lot of tech built
up to even be able to do this stuff so um yeah i'm excited. Like I can't even imagine what, you know, it's going to be really interesting a year
from now to see what, how everything looks and how it's playing out.
But I'm super optimistic and, um, you know, and I know it's like a momentum game and like
once, once things start taking off, then people just start pouring in from left and right.
And we're working toward getting there, you know, and thank you guys for being on the
journey early on where we're kind of relatively uh unknown or not that known um
you know but i think i don't know man i just look at what we're doing and i look around i'm like man
this is um from from a from a objective point of view it seems like we have some pretty cool stuff i don't know i welcome
what you guys think you guys tell me is it cool am i on mars am i like in la la land or what you
know i'm just joking tommy you're breaking up just a little bit so i did want to mention that
um and i also wanted to ask uh one quick question because you said you guys are working on ui ux
will it be as simple as, you know,
minting the LP bond as it was before?
Will it be one click where it's just super simple or, you know,
will, you know, for people who, you know, might need, you know,
love simplicity,
like that one click and everything just kind of happens or, you know,
will it take a couple steps or are you guys still determining that?
Oh yeah. You know, I love that one click. It's gonna be one click, baby, for sure.
Okay, I do appreciate that. Good question. Thank you so much. I really do appreciate that,
Tommy. And I just wanted to say thank you for Nuke coming in. Nuke was in our last space.
And Tommy and I were kind of talking about a little bit earlier, and I don't want to deviate
too far from the conversation,
about, you know, just coming into the spaces
and learning about other projects,
because safety and liquidity have been, you know,
a big issue in the space.
And so, you know, just coming in and, you know,
meeting new projects.
And Nuke, I just wanted to shout you out very quickly,
and I might throw you the mic to come up,
of a pretty new project, very young founders in the space that are building on Bitcoin ordinals and trying to protect liquidity.
And so, you know, getting to these other spaces, as Tommy and I were talking about earlier before the space buildup, was that, you know, it's important to know who's out here.
space buildup was that, you know, it's important to know who's out here.
And so Tommy did mention,
and I would like to invite all of you to come over to the shill space that
Yanda has, and I'll repost that space up at the top.
It was an excellent space today for us to get to meet other projects here and
to know who's around, because if we don't know who's here,
we don't know what help we can provide. And we can't, you know,
kind of sync you up with other people and founders that have blockchains that you might want to even place your NFT on. And so I'm so glad that Gummy
Invasions, Nuke, and anybody else who wants to come up here, we invite you to come up and speak
a little bit about maybe what you're doing or, you know, how energy, you know, can help support
support you as well. So without further ado, I don't want to take up more of the mic than necessary.
you as well. So without further ado, I don't want to take up more of the mic than necessary.
Just wanted to say thank you, Nuke, for coming up and thank you, Gummy Invasions. I wanted to
drop over to Gummy Invasions first and then I'll come back to you, Nuke. So Gummy, how are you
doing, Foxen? That is Foxen behind the account. Just wanted to say hello. Yes, it is. It is Foxen.
Hey, good morning. Good morning. I have a little coughing fit going on. I'm just kind of getting over a cold. But go ahead and pass it over to Nuke for a minute because he just called him up. So that way I can kind of cough and drink some water.
Okay, thank you so much, Fox. And we'll pass it over to Nuke. Nuke, if you could, you know, just kind of tell us about your project. And it was very interesting to hear what you were doing and protecting liquidity and so forth. So I kind of tagged you and i'm glad you're here so welcome yo thank you very much gabby thank you guys um i'm sorry i'm
i actually actually thought of you know attending this space or somehow i got caught up in some
scenario but yeah we're here and i'm glad i'm able to meet up. Sorry, I missed E4 Energy. I am just going through your profile
and I see what you're building and I'm really keen.
All right, so I'll definitely check it out.
But thank you very much for the platform
and thank you very much for having me.
I'm Jerry, I am a project manager, IRL
and a project manager on Web3.
So I've been on the Web3 space for roughly four years.
So I and my team, right? We've been focused on Bitcoin, basically Bitcoin ordinals for
the past three years. We've been trying to build um as well as other applications as well sticking
and a lot of that on bitcoin ordinals and um we learned about the inception of brc 2.0 and um we
we you know we are bringing our experience and trying to contribute to brc 2.0 and trying to like
um contribute in terms of security and trust which is why I
know I vibe with the energy here. So yeah so we are actually building a liquidity management system
it's called Nuke so it's a system that gives token owners, project owners, the liberty to lock their liquidity
and show a proof to their community. Liquidity is like the life of a token. So, most investors,
before they get in, they really want to see that liquidity. They want to see your liquidity,
that your liquidity is locked or not have some form of a vote of confidence for your to invest in your project so basically what nook
does is um project owners create a vote for their projects and their community stick their tokens
under this vote so different votes so we have energy, we have Gabi votes and every other votes on the nook.
So if I hold Gabi token, I can easily go to her vote and you know, I can stake and get rewards.
Of course, stakers normally get reward in form of like passive income, monthly or yearly, like a yearly revenue. So the incentive or any, you know,
the pool distribution is totally determined by Gabi
or determined by the project owner.
So Nuke just manages the system.
And if the project owner have a form of incentive
they want to do, they want to distribute some form
of prizes or XP rewards they can do that
automatically on on NUK AI liquidity manager so that is in a short
form the way I present a NUK AI liquidity manager so I'm really excited
for it like I said we've been in you know, we've been doing some games on Ordinal's and BRC 2.0 is just a level up because BRC 2.0 is, you know, creating a system where smart contracts will be possible on Bitcoin and Ordinal's.
So, we are leveraging on that and we are excited to, you bring gaming to um brc 2.0 i mean we've been
building on ordinals and we feel like brc 2.0 is going to be like a step further it's going to make
building easy it's going to make gaming and transactions swaps on bitcoin a lot easier
so that's why we are doing it there and yeah we are going to be venturing full time i think that's why we are doing it there. And yeah, we are going to be venturing full time. I think that's our long term goal.
Yeah, that's our long term goal.
We are going to be going full into GameFi.
We have also done some things on AI agents as well.
We've done some AI agents.
So we intend to bring all of that to BRC 2.0 basically.
And yeah, the vote is going to be integrated to the game too.
So this vote apart
from the fact that it's for brc 2.0 it's also going to be integrated in our game the reason is
that we are creating an automated system where ai agents play games and you know they can be
trained by game players so you don't just play game for you know trying to rank up get some couple
of bunch of coins you are playing it as an investment so you can play game for, you know, trying to rank up, get some couple of bunch of coins.
You are playing it as an investment.
So you can play game for one month, build up the skill of your AI agent, and you can trade it on the marketplace.
So that's, I don't really want to go into that because that's like in the long term.
And what the vote will do is it will automatically distribute rewards.
Let's say we have a tournament a monthly tournament we can customize
a certain reward for top five or top ten and what it does it automatically distributes even if we
are not active the air agent the system reads it and you know reward you know reward everyone
accordingly automatically so it's um something we have in long term but yeah short term we are building um
these two and we are excited for it um we're gonna be we're gonna be doing um a token a token launch
on brs 2.0 as well we've got some couple of partners already and yeah we're gonna be um
more like the new um the the official token of the project.
It's going to power the entire project in terms of deposit fees,
in terms of marketing fees and all of that.
So, yeah, thank you very much once again, Gabby and Energy and everyone.
Thank you for the platform.
And I wanted to see if anybody had any questions,
but I wanted to say you had mentioned in the previous space,
in Yonder space, and like I said, I'll put it up there in the nest as soon as I can grab it really quickly.
But just when I heard you say safety and protecting liquidity, I immediately thought of energy and
I'm like, okay, this is what Tommy's doing. And this is what his team, Tommy, Mark, behind the
energy, you know, and going to make it marketplace. That's what they're doing.
They're creating a safe place, making sure that people don't just, you know, take, you
know, take from the liquidity, but you can also protect it too, because it's something
very valuable, invaluable in this space that sometimes we lack and we need to protect.
So with that being said, I'm not sure if Tommy or Mark had any questions for Nuke at all. I just said safety.
I think that's right up both of your alleys and protecting this space. So we do appreciate
you coming in and speaking. And I'm so grateful to have met you in Yanda's space.
Yeah, thank you very much. I mean, I'm really excited to connect and partner with, I mean, I love energy already. I'm going to like check it out and see how we can possibly partner in the future. But yeah, thank you very much for the platform. Thank you very much.
So let me just jump in here.
Hey, let me go up here.
And one thing we should do, Gabby, if we have someone coming in the space,
I want to teach people how to do this.
It's very important, you guys.
And you might, I don't know, I'm sure you're obviously using AI.
So what I want you to do is, like, to be quite honest,
I don't understand the problem and solution you have.
And so I'm just saying that.
I'm not saying that in any way
to be harsh or anything.
In fact, I'm at Token2049
and I also have to do the same thing.
I have to make sure people
clearly understand the problem
I'm solving and the solution I'm providing.
And also it has to be as concise as possible.
So I don't know if you've done this before,
but go on the AI and say,
I need an elevator pitch
that properly explains my problem
and solution in one paragraph each i want you to do that and then read that to me because i want to
understand what you're doing but i honestly don't understand it so uh you know it's very hard i don't
i'm not i'm not a fake person like a lot of people like oh yeah that's really cool man
uh good job no i'm a real i'm a. So I'm going to be completely authentic with you.
I don't understand what you're doing.
So I know if you have an elevator pitch, like again, but I want you to keep it
concise, like 30 second problem, 30 seconds.
So I don't want like five minutes, 30 seconds, 30 seconds.
Let's see if you can do it.
Yeah, sure.
Oh, I can actually do that.
30 seconds.
Yeah.
So the problem is for, um, emerging protocols like BRC 2.0, we've seen
that happen in the ordinal's wave. We get to see, you know, fragmentation of tokens. We get to see
a lot of persons trying to like launch something and, you know, extract liquidity and exit, right?
So this tool basically, what it solves is trying to differentiate the real build house from those who just want to exploit.
Right. So it's simple.
What NUC AI liquidity manager does is create a form of transparency for project owners, token owners.
And then it also gives the investors a vote of confidence.
Once a project creates a vote, they are sent a form of NFT that is verifiable on chain.
So everyone in the community can see exactly what is going on and they are sure that the liquidity is locked and it cannot be extracted or something like that.
So I hope that answers the question.
But liquidity can be locked up like meme coins do that all the time, right? You can lock
the liquidity for years. So why does there need to be a vote for confidence of that if
it's locked in the smart contract for years?
Oh, yeah. Don't get me wrong. There are tools like this on every other blockchain, like
Ethereum and other EVMs, right?
So this is like a market gap in the BRC, especially the Bitcoin ecosystem.
And that is what we're trying to feel.
But, okay, and I'm really just trying to understand it.
So if you're trying to create confidence behind locking liquidity long term, can't you just do that?
Again, I'm saying a lot of meme points have done that because there's a lot
of low trust in meme coins.
So a lot of meme points like the liquidity is locked for 99 years or whatever,
something like that.
And it's just like you can see it on like DEX tools or other tools.
It shows that.
Right.
So, I mean, is this something that's like competing versus that?
That seems like a simpler solution than a vote yeah um we've seen like we've
seen a couple of persons you know claim the liquidity and they go behind the scenes and
you know we draw that liquidity you're aware of that right they do what you know they propose they lock a certain amount of um tokens in form of liquidity
locking liquidity but they go behind the scenes and they see they still have liberty to withdraw
the liquidity at any time you're aware of that right well that's why you can like revoke it and
stuff so they can't do that so yeah some if the smart contract allows it yeah they could they could do that but
um a lot of times it's like that's why they say the contract is revoked you know that's the purpose
like there can't be any changes the liquidity is locked down and there's a verifiable way to prove
that it's been revoked as well too yeah certainly some projects could
can do that and that's where the trust comes in is is it is it on the blockchain is it on the
code that it can't be changed you know um yeah well interesting that's an interesting niche um
it might it might have a market uh i i I, I don't know. I have to think
about it more. Obviously it's my first time hearing it. Um, but yeah. And then, you know,
just, I guess another thing I'll mention too, is just because there's a vote, it doesn't mean,
you know, I'll tell you through my experience, man, I've seen people burn their reputations
down so much, you know, back in 2017, everyone, 2017 everyone there was they were doing icos and it was like oh well
this person wouldn't screw over the project because that's their name and that's who they are
and look this is they went to fucking stanford and you know and they have all these connect
to like google and apple cloud and amazon and all this shit you know it's like oh well lo and
behold they fucking rugged
to the tune of millions of dollars millions of dollars so just because you have a vote or just because someone has someone's doxed or whatever doesn't mean that they're not going to be shady
in fact half the time that's them trying to pretend like they're legit but they're actually
but they're actually just trying to rug and see if they can get away with it.
just trying to rug and see if they can get away with it so something else to keep in mind too
So something else to keep in mind too.
Yeah, sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. I feel a hundred.
Just some feedback to consider. I'm not trying to discourage you, you know,
go down your path, but you know, I have to give you a,
I have to give you my honest feedback because I would want honest feedback
myself. So, you know, yeah.
Yeah. I appreciate it. I appreciate it very much. I know. I, I, I,
I'm also learning, you know, um, I know, I'm getting some insights from you as well. But yeah, thank you very much. I really love this kind of, you know, conversations. It opens up my mind to, you know, think further, try and broaden my scope. So I appreciate you very much.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, for sure.
Hey, Yonda, how are you?
Welcome to our space.
I'm meaning to make it on your spaces.
I'm going to come on there soon enough.
So I know you guys do yours like just before ours or something.
It's a pleasure to be here, and thank you so much.
I may have an issue with my signal.
Am I breaking up currently as I'm speaking?
I can hear you just fine.
That's perfect.
I think it's exceptional what you're doing,
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to the speakers, it's been a pleasure to be on this platform.
Yeah, I just wanted to say thank you for coming into the space. Thank you for your space earlier
because what Tommy just did for Nuke, I think is very important. And if we had someone like Tommy on the show to actually help provide feedback to founders and, you know, ask some of those feedback and how grateful Nuke was of the feedback of Tommy to say, hey, I just need a pitch.
I need to give me 30 seconds.
Those are the kind of feedback that maybe some people in the 8 o'clock AM show space would love to have is that feedback from an actual founder or even a
representative because Tommy and Mark are out here. They are the technical know-hows behind
energy. And so it's really, you know, you don't always find that developers or devs out here
who are willing to take the time to spend with their communities. I know they're already stretched
then. It's kind of like, you know, asking them to do something else. But anytime they have the opportunity and can, you know, grace us with their ability to come in
and just give feedback, I think that would be super awesome, but don't want to put more stress
on them than necessary. But when they have the opportunity or the chance to come in and to listen
to some of these technical projects and say, you know what, 30 second pitch, what are you really trying to solve?
And I know we do that frequently, but with their two minute shields.
But I think it's a wonderful opportunity to have received feedback from Energy Newt because he is the founder of Energy along with Mark.
And so they're here with the community and talking to us.
So we're happy about that.
And thank you, Yonda, for the space to get to be introduced to more people.
I don't want to hog up the mic.
I know we do have Shiny Girl up here, too, and Gummy Invasions.
And I think Gummy Invasions was next to speak.
I'll see if he'll yield the mic, too.
Shiny Gal, ladies first, maybe.
And then we can go to you, Gummy.
Is that OK, Foxen?
Absolutely. Thank you so much. Hi, Gummy. Is that okay, Foxen? Absolutely.
Thank you so much.
Hi, Shiny Gal, how are you?
Welcome, glad you're here.
Hi, Gabby.
GM, GM.
GMT, good morning.
Yahonda, good morning.
Gumm, L-A-G, Nook, Mac, everyone in in this space we shout out to everybody yeah i saw
you and your honda in the space and i'm like okay energy uh so i came into this space and um
it's actually nice to see what um the energy is actually building uh preventing this come
energy is actually building uh preventing scams and it's something very very important because
you can easily make um recover from your like maybe a wrong trade but the moment your money is
gone it's gone you can't recover from it so we have to like actually look into how to prevent all this scam and it will also help people to feel um
to feel easy and like feel um to join the web theory space when they know they have secure um
there's like reduction of scams because that's part of why many are afraid of the web theory space
many see the opportunities where but they are
afraid of losing their money uh getting caught in between scams or like you know so i really love
what um energy is building and i would like to like learn about it about what they are building
because i'm just seeing them for the first time. Yeah, so thank you very much.
And thank you very much for leading me to this space.
Gabby, I want to share to you.
Yeah, I wish I had to do women of Web3 space.
And then to everybody I'm meeting here, this shiny girl.
Yeah, happy to connect with everyone.
And let's learn and grow together in this space.
Yep.
Thank you so much, shiny girl, for coming in. You know, it's important because we're
all connected, right? So people follow people in the spaces because they're used to seeing them.
So we're bringing new people into spaces and all the time. So I didn't know if before we go over
to Hands and over to Gummy, if Tommy wanted to, you know, just give a quick synopsis of what
energy does and what energy is for anybody who might be new in the space.
Yeah, well, we have the most secure blockchain in the world.
That's just a fact.
And that comes from me just being the sort of person that takes responsibility for people in my community.
And that stems back to 2018.
And back then there were scams and crime and stuff.
Now it's probably literally a thousand times worse.
But some of the same stuff, some new stuff.
But I think, again, I just really emphasize the point
that kind of a futuristic thought, I guess.
I guess that what a concept that it's a blockchain responsibility to protect its users.
Right.
So and then for me, that really kind of came to fruition when I had people in the community getting scammed.
They were losing money to impersonators, impersonating our community managers, community staff members, and building
a relationship with them. The scammers are building relationships with them and build a trust.
And then next time we have an upgrade or something like that, they would jump in there and kind of be
like, hey, I want to personally help you with the upgrade. And then the community member would be
like, oh, wow, you know, he's messaging me directly. Let me just do what he's going to do.
And so they had like trust, violate the trust and would scam community members.
And, you know, I would hear all the reports.
So I hear it all.
And then after it happened enough times, which probably wasn't more than 10 times,
but after it happened enough, I was like, okay, that's can't, this can't be,
this can't be the future.
And I was like, all right, we're going to fix this.
So how do we fix it?
And we figured it out.
And we fixed it by inventing decentralized enforcement.
And decentralized enforcement is basically having a DAO built into the blockchain.
There's plenty of DAOs.
Back then, actually, having a DAO built in the blockchain is actually pretty rare.
There's probably less than 10 blockchains at the time they had DAOs maybe less than five
there weren't that many now there's a lot but no DAOs do what we do still in regard to the security
they do basically voting on funds and that sort of stuff some do votes on um technical upgrades
but um nobody does enforcement and we did that from that from pretty much, we didn't start with it, but we added it within a year of launch.
And the enforcement basically allows us to, again, if there's a criminal activity or something, the network can vote.
Freeze stolen assets or ill-gotten assets and basically freeze an address.
So our DAO can freeze any address on our network.
There's a bad actor.
And sometimes there are exchanges too, by the way.
We've had that, I think, more than once with an exchange.
Exchange bad actors, believe it or not.
They're trying to just steal community funds and try to dump them
on another exchange kind of funny right um wouldn't expect that from an exchange would you
anyway uh um so yeah that's that's what uh our technology enables and you know because we have
that security um you see the criminals go away you know when they find out they can't take advantage of you
then they go somewhere else so we have a pretty good ecosystem in terms of pretty damn safe
we have some other security mechanisms that are just i'm still waiting for the world to catch up
to the decentralized enforcement but even when they do catch up to that we have another critical
layer of security which is the three-day delay when you're sending funds from energy to an exchange or to a bridge there's a three-day delay um if it's within the network it's
uh very fast um the issue is when people steal funds they quickly send it to a bridge or to an
exchange to sell those funds so if you create a delay for that they can't get away with it and so
this is another layer of security that only I have
brought to the space these are what I call defense in depth and accumulation and
this is what enables us to definitively shut down pretty much almost any direction of attack
on our network so I'm really proud of it um but i think i should share in that story too
that when you guys are building something just because you build something highly innovative
does not mean that you're gonna just be successful you know there's a really funny saying you build
it and they will come that is the most dangerous saying out there so be very careful with that
because that is not necessarily true. We built it.
But even though crime is a meta and like a meme word in the space now, still people haven't.
I expect it.
It's whatever, right?
Like we're not sitting around and waiting.
That's why we continued on and built an NFT marketplace and built LP bonds.
That's a reflection of how we've continued. But I just want to really let you guys know, if you are a builder in this space,
don't just assume you build it and they will come. You got to be ready for,
you basically got to be ready for war. I mean, that's what it's like. Like,
you got to build it. You got to, the marketing and partnerships are just as critical, if not
perhaps more critical, you know.
And those are reflections for me.
I mean, it's not easy either, you know.
It's not easy.
And building a whole blockchain ecosystem is a ton of work.
I didn't know what it was in the onset.
To be honest with you, building an NFT marketplace and LP bonds is a much tighter scope and much easier to work with partners than a whole a whole blockchain so there's a lot of learnings you'll go along the way if i were to say anything on top of that
i would say you know kind of find your life purpose and find out exactly what you want to do
and a good way of doing that is imagine you're, you know, you know, 80 years old and, uh, you know, you're, you're done working in your life and all that. And what would you be happy looking back on your life? You know, what would, what would truly make you happy? And, and when I first did that exercise, you know, I imagined being, uh, you know, um, my, my original one, I'll just tell you guys,
I imagine being a big real estate mogul, you know, buying and selling skyscrapers and stuff.
But I was like, you know what?
But I, I wouldn't actually be happy with myself there.
I could do more in this world than that.
And that's where, you know, I really thought about it a lot.
And it led me to where I am.
It led me to creating energy, you know, creating the safest blockchain in the world.
And I'll tell
you what again it takes that grit being there because it ain't easy you guys it ain't easy when
it's not it's not it's not it's not going to be easy anyone who has been it pretty much happens
to everybody too like there's exceptions they get lucky but even those they get lucky then they're
going to hit hard points and that's really
the proving ground is are they sticking with it or did they just get lucky and quit when they hit
the first roadblock but if you're serious builder then you have to be ready for the long term and it
ain't easy man but your commitment if you're committed you'll see it through and if you're
not committed then you won't so that's why I say figure out what your life purpose is because if
you know your life purpose is then you'll be committed and you won't feel like you're not committed, then you won't. So that's why I say, figure out what your life purpose is, because if you know what your life purpose is, then you'll be committed.
And you won't feel like you're wasting time.
But if you don't know what your purpose is, then when things get hard, you'll be
like, oh, well, am I doing the right thing?
And, you know, my mom's telling me that I should quit.
And, you know, um, my best friend is asking me how long I'm going to do this for that
sort of stuff.
Like, you know, they're going to get, you're going to start second guessing yourself and
all that.
So figure out what your purpose is, you know, and there's probably a ton of content out
there, um, to figure that out again, one of the exercises I just gave you and, and then,
and then reverse engineer and reverse engineer.
And if that's building something
in the space awesome then identify that stick with it grind at it day after day day after day
and results will begin to show so it's a bit of a long speech there but i think good stuff for
some of the newcomers and stuff so yeah it is is Tommy. And I have to laugh a little bit because, you know,
sometimes we forget to go back to the basics when we have new people in here,
but I don't want to take up the mic too much because I know we had a true
defy and gummy still waiting.
So I wanted to pass it over to Fox and to see if he had any word before we
pass it over to true defy.
No, absolutely. I've just been kind of soaking in everything.
So definitely take in everything
that Tommy's saying right now. Very, very good information. You have to stick with it.
Gummy invasions, you know, what he said to his point that you build it and they'll come,
just because I have hundreds of thousands of packs of gum doesn't mean that people are going
to be coming in droves and buying and it's going to be super successful. You've got to put the work
in. You've got to put the grind in. You have to know that you know that you know that you know that it's going to succeed.
Otherwise, it won't because there will be 100 – for every one person that gives you a compliment,
there will be 100 to 1,000 that tell you why you can't do it, why it can't be done.
So you have to know.
And with that, it's kind of funny.
Nuke, I appreciate your humility being able to take some feedback from Tommy because it was good feedback.
I was kind of thinking the same thing. But to that point, solving problems, you know, like for gummy invasions,
the problem is candy and gum specifically is toxic. So we're making non-toxic gum.
The Web2 or just the people in the world, they're not very familiar with entities or crypto and blockchain technology.
So how do we bridge that?
We're bridging that through our gum product, our packs, our plushies.
They all connect directly to the site.
They connect directly to GMI and energy so they can be educated and onboarded in a safe way.
And very similar to what energy does.
The space is very toxic, right?
We use kind of the candy analogy.
It's very toxic as far as when it comes to security.
But yet there's a lot of flashy things out there that people are buying into.
It's just kind of destroying parts of the space.
There's decay happening.
But energy really is the solution to that.
And all the technology,
everything he said is not hoping.
It's not like, hey, we hope that we get to do this.
This is technology that's been built and it's being perfected.
And we're all going to enjoy the fruits,
obviously, of that labor, but we got to keep going.
Just very excited to be in this space.
I see some great people down below,
Joshua Shorty, Batty Billiards, obviously you, Gabby, Mark.
I heard Yondon here earlier.
And before, because I don't know how my coughing is going to do,
I'm getting over a cold here, but I did mention that I will be giving away
a Gummy Invasion's NFT.
We're currently traded on Gunna Make It Marketplace,
powered by energy, and we're on the energy blockchain
and Gabby if I could
I do have the winner
or do we want to wait until later in this space
now by coming invasions if you feel
empowered and you want to say it now go right
ahead it is okay
alright appreciate that
hey treasure I see you down there
give me some kind of emoji so that you can hear me
I don't know he's listening I know he's been in the space Treasure, I see you down there. Give me some kind of emoji so that you can hear me.
I don't know if he's listening. I know he's been in the space the whole time.
But regardless, I'll send him a DM, but Treasure, you are onboarded to Gummy Evasion. So go ahead and DM me. I've already DM'd you, so we'll get in contact, but welcome aboard.
I have already DMed you, so we'll get in contact, but welcome aboard.
Oh, that's super exciting.
Treasure is a treasure in the community.
He's always been supportive of, he just threw some hearts of the Sheba Sequoia Forest, and
he's around, he supports so many different spaces, and he also has RainCoin, but I know
Treasure can tell you all about that, but Treasure has been very supportive and always in the space. He's been to ShibaFest. And so that's how we all met. And he'll be back
here in North Carolina again for ShibaFest North Carolina, because he lives very closer,
much closer here. So we're happy to have him back and flying his drone and taking all the pictures
like he did last year. So I'm so excited to share the Gummy Invasions space
with you, Treasure, and family.
But yeah, and Crypto Queen is also a part of the Gummy Invasions.
And guess what?
We'll all be here in North Carolina too supporting.
So you've got a great person here.
So I just wanted to shout out Treasure,
who's always in the space.
So thank you, Treasure.
And thank you, G and thank you um gummy invasion
just want to say yeah thank thank you for thank you for that eric that's that's kind of you and
there's only 777 gummy invasions too so um and i see you already have kind of a similar pfp so you
might like it so uh yeah man cool thank you thank you eric for uh for offering that
thank you tomm, for offering that.
Thank you, Tommy, for chiming in. Yes, he's already got the energy background. It's kind of green back there.
Is that saying something? Sorry. Go ahead, Foxen.
I was going to say he's already kind of halfway there with the PFP. It just kind of seems fitting. But full disclosure, I always, you know, I do get random giveaways, but I try to give, especially NFTs, you know, because I value security and I value people that stick with it and that are available and in the space.
So people of value, you know, people that bring value, not extract it.
So Treasure, welcome aboard.
Excited to have you, man.
I've heard a lot about you.
So looking forward to it.
Thank you again, Foxen, for that. And thank you, Tommy. But I think we also have TrueDeFi. I wanted to give them an opportunity. Hopefully you didn't forget your thought. If you did, you wrote it down. But glad to have you here. Welcome. How are you?
Hey, everyone.
Daniel here, by the way.
My PFP is a logo, but my name is Daniel.
Yeah, actually, I just switched the windows,
just from the dev screen over here, because I'm listening.
That's why you don't see so many reactions from my end um it's a pleasure to be here um respect to everything i heard uh energy
um great concept good attempt i'm i'm very intrigued and curious to hear more and uh
you know let's see where it goes uh gummy gummy experience Gabby I listened to you here and there
already the same with Yonda I'm pretty impressed by everyone and the communication style and culture
so I'm a crypto founder I just wanted to also also offer to give my two cents here and there during this space if anyone wants to know more from different angles. Sometimes we have to hear the same thing from different angles.
or um crypto literacy helps but everyone of us started at some point and we all paid our dues
and our rite of passage at the yeah 2017 oh my gosh yeah you you mentioned it before energy
and when it comes to work attitude when internet was young and we had these these few highlights in the news uh who made it in the
internet when it was new my gosh um that there was a one line if you do something interesting
outside the net then you are interesting in the net and if you come with some substance uh from
outside the internet or or outside crypto and if you had the opportunity to at least wipe some dust
outside before you came here, it might be an opportunity
or an advantage to work here with a larger experience pool
that you can attempt to found something.
And yeah, customers are not waiting right or they're
waiting but you have to you have to find the same language to speak to them and to develop what
what is needed on the market so yes today actually my last post and this is not a show but it fits
the last post today was a
crypto manifesto i was working on for the past few weeks um and actually for years um so yeah
i posted a defy crypto manifesto today and um yeah that's that's basically what i think i'm
i'm i came for the code i'm an idealist. I want to leave a footprint here
on this planet and I would like to help to make the world a better place. And thankfully,
some of us, we can afford it to stay in crypto. And I think DeFi is a very interesting field
because when people are interacting with smart contracts,
the smart contract itself is a own legal entity by itself.
It's not a company.
It's not an organization.
It's not a human.
And considering that, everything is theoretically possible.
And when it comes to security, yes yes we are living in a trustless
environment and yet we need trust otherwise there's so many opportunities and backdoors
that you can build and nobody can look through that even the most experienced guys sometimes we
just don't look anymore too deep right so trust and reputation is uh currency number one in in my humble opinion
thanks for giving me the three minutes
thank you so much true defy you know i think what tommy had mentioned that last week
about you know there are things that we are not aware of you know we can't figure out everything
but the things that we can you know and i think i saw your post you know, we can't figure out everything, but the things that we can, you know, and I think I saw your post, you know, why are you in DeFi? And I did repost that, you know,
thank you for sharing. I think it's important that we do have to have some level of trust.
And Tommy had mentioned last week that just because it means DeFi doesn't mean that there
is no, you know, governance in place to keep things in order, you know, to make sure that we
are staying aware
and we are doing things the right way and always in a safe manner. So I really do appreciate your
you coming up here and sharing, but I wanted to pass the mic over to Mark or Tommy to see if they
had any feedback or, you know, how they can relate or, you know, anything that you would like to add.
Let me just jump in here.
I love the way you spoke, man.
It was great.
You're welcome on our spaces whenever you want.
It's nice to hear.
You just felt the good vibes, so totally.
And I will just say, too, yes, trust and reputation
and these sorts of things, But there's a big thing there
that is sorely lacking in the space,
which is most of the time,
these people don't have the ability to enforce.
And that's really what it comes down to, right?
Because you can vote in a DAO,
you can vote for funds
and how to allocate this or that.
But it's just shocking to me.
I was just thinking as you were saying it, shocking to me how has no one else figured out
that they should also to enforce it's just mind-blowing and people just turn a blind eye
they're like and just like you think there's nothing that can be done maybe it's a lack of
education actually i want to ask you what do you think the reason is why that the space hasn't figured out that those people who build their reputation for years and build the trust for years, why are they not given power to make enforcement decisions on the blockchain in case there's criminal activity or stuff like that? Do you guys hear me, by the way?
We heard you, but I'm not sure TrueDeFi is still with us.
I heard you.
I heard you.
I was still muted.
I'm sorry.
I almost want to call you brothers and arms brother in arms because
it needs it takes an idealist um we are in a very young industry and the industry needs to establish
and a part of the industry is um a lot of transactions and volume is being uh done by by
done by mid-term and long-term scams as well,
and also not necessarily setting up too high the hurdle or the challenge.
So I feel that a blockchain, you see, when you want to measure a retention rate,
then you're not setting the bars high but uh you you allow uh simple access for builders
for everyone who wants to give it a shot and i'm not talking about uh so-called founders and and
and or deployers so let's let's say deployers and at the end of the day um i think quality will
sustain and i believe in evolution and every time there is a luck, someone will close it and inevitably it will show another gap or luck of something.
And that hopefully will be covered by the deaf room, to the labs.
For the ease of accessibility, or ease of access.
Tommy, did that somewhat answer?
Is it an access thing or an education thing?
Because I'm wondering, like, you know, again, I'm really specifically talking about, like,
again, like, I don't know if you follow what we do with our security technology, but you
know, we have a DAO that does enforcement and, but nobody but nobody else does and i just i'm just trying to understand that i don't know
if you have uh feedback on that specifically
i could i could speak for for a while about this what i suspect are you know shooting from the hips but i would uh rather uh think about and uh learn more about uh the implications of having it i
never thought about it actually to be honest okay well that's actually something right there you
know that that's it right there you see you didn't never thought about it and i think that's what
goes on is that people have people have never thought about it, never occurred to people that that could exist.
Eric, did you have something to add?
I did. I was going to chime in right there and say, yeah, no, I think it's education, man. I really do. I really do.
I wanted to say education is huge.
We see new people come into this space all the time,
and they're not coming in with knowledge of knowing everything,
and none of us know everything.
If someone tells you they know everything, run fast and in a hurry
because we're all still learning.
I wish there was a guide.
I used to say that all the time when I first came into this space.
I wish there was a guide. I used to say that all the time when I first came in this space. I wish there was a guide, a know-how guide, but things change so rapidly that I don't know
what is the best way to learn? What is the best thing about education? I don't want to
hog up the mic too much, but I do agree with Foxen. It's education, but I do see
Shivjay has come up with us. How are you? Glad you're up here and thank you for coming up.
Hey, good morning, everyone. Hopefully you all can hear me.
Okay, sweet.
Hi, Calvin.
What's going on, Tommy? Top of the morning to you all. I actually was enjoying the show.
Is that Calvin?
Yeah, they got me too, bro. Sus too bro suspended inauthentic activity crazy oh shit man i'm on you back right now
hey man appreciate you um i only wanted to come up because uh just from space to space, been learning the different perspectives of investors.
We are all participants, and even if we choose to dial, farm, or just hodl, it does matter.
You know, the people's voice, on and off chain, our voice has always mattered from your small town to the decisions of your region, your jurisdictional area for those in law.
In short, there should be some enforcement.
There's a hard, I guess, bookkeeping with not even just representation like, oh, who's in charge of what.
We should be aware of our issuers, though. There are some new protocols
being developed for those things to know that you're an issuer, but also for us, the participants,
being voters or delegates even. There's ways to game the system. I, one individual, can have four wallets, and that ultimately unbalances the voting power within the system, distribution of tokens, and also the decision that is being made is now technically not fair.
There's a stack that has to be kind of presented in DeFi.
that has to be kind of presented in DeFi.
You have you, yourself, person, even if domain name or not,
there's ways to show who you are.
And if there was a way for only, I mean, you do have systems in place
to where there's a protocol, airdrop even.
You, this wallet, have this activity, but
if this wallet is connected or has any authority over another wallet, they wouldn't be able
to game that system.
Why has there not been enforcement within DAO protocols, snapshots, or et cetera?
I'm not sure. But as all things, kind of staying on topic,
but piggybacking on what Nuke was speaking of, as far as Bitcoin goes, there's some things you
can and cannot do that Ethereum does bring to light. Smart contracts on Ethereum can be renounced.
Smart contracts on Ethereum can be renounced. The word revoking is what you were stating, Tommy. They can be renounced and permissions can be disabled. I'm saying this quote unquote air quotes, not sarcastically, but there are back doors.
There is the main thing of knowing who is the signer, the owner of said wallet or smart contract, who constructed, created said smart contract, even when it comes to the token itself, who added the details.
We do sign for all actions on chain. Who is signing may be a little foggy, but that fog is clearing because, again, you do have the technology of domain names across many chains.
But also, aside of that, they do have many, I guess, point systems.
I've seen this go across the board.
Majority of Optimism stack and a few Chainlink products, Chainlink build ecosystem protocols.
You use the protocol, you get in points.
Those points, although you may get something in return, but it's still a tracking mechanism.
you may get something in return, but it's still a tracking mechanism.
Tommy, the future that you seek for enforcement of the DAO, it could be on the way. It just takes
tracking of the data, storage of the data. Can the protocol computate the data and hold it without any type of complications. It's easier said than done.
We all just press the button, but the devs are working out there. And shout out to you for being
one amongst those that are working. Well, thanks, Calvin. I appreciate that. And I will say, I mean,
it is working. It's been working for many years now um and it's not
that complicated either you know it's like again there's dows that vote on how to spend funds and
all those dows have already gone through those tests of you know community and this and that
and is there cohesiveness or not and all this stuff and i think when you get like kind of like
i think culture is very important.
So if you have like a good culture in a community and the leadership is what of that culture and everything, and then you have kind of this cornerstone where, you know, people kind of
trust each other and, um, and trust each other to protect the community. And so again, Dallas
kind of, I would say do that already in terms of allocating how to spend funds.
But it's just, again, kind of funny to me that they haven't, I think we were saying
it earlier, maybe it's a lack of education.
I think that might be that people just don't even know it's possible, but it can also be
done to enforce and enforce is actually, I think enforcement is actually maybe the most
important part of it because it
comes down to protecting the community, you know, protecting against one-sided behavior.
You know, we've seen that in some various places, right? There's like one bad actor
kind of, you know, upsetting, doing something shady, you know, maybe they're extracting value
or I don't know who knows you
know what what's going on but unfortunately sometimes people get really selfish and um and
do that sort of stuff um and i will say you know again the dow structures that we have today i
think work well where you know in energy it's you know one energy is only one vote if you have more
skin in the game you should have a greater say and so on and so forth
so i think those kind of concepts already exist in dows right the more of whatever token you have
the bigger voting power you have but you know just having skin in the game and then imagine you have
10 20 30 people in a community that are actively looking after it then they're going to catch you
know the bad actors trying to harm the community and they're going to catch, you know, the bad actors trying to harm the
community and they're going to be able to say no. That's the point. They have the power to stop it.
Whereas today the status quo is most of the time communities don't have the power to do that. They
just have to sit by and watch as some bad actor, you know, steals a ton of coins from the community,
dumps it on the community's head you know and it's the community paying the
price and all the community can do is voice but you know or you know is that they could fork and
that but that's such an extreme thing that it doesn't happen very often but if they just had
the power to be able to come together and come to a consensus like hey we're really not okay with
someone stealing from the community or this
criminal who's hacked the change stealing funds we're not okay with that we're all in consensus
we're gonna stop it i don't know i feel that i feel that's inevitable and i'm really curious to
hear your guys's thoughts on it do you guys feel it's inevitable or is it just me one day I do want to say I'm going to probably more than likely step back down and listen in and enjoy the show.
But interesting topic. It was enough to get me out of my seat.
Tommy, explicitly I'm saying this.
That's right, Calvin. Thanks for...
I was only saying, you're asking, can the people band together against bad actors?
It is possible. It has happened. It doesn't just happen in the movies or the cartoons.
It does happen. We just got to figure out, is it worth it to some people because i mean it takes nothing but to participate
the protocols are there the tokens are available on the open market it's open 24 7. it's just up to
the people to make that decision really because like you said it's available it out it's out there
and things do work so we'll see
appreciate you
oxen go ahead thank you calvin appreciate it yeah calvin appreciate you i didn't realize
your other account got uh knocked out hey dm this account um you have been on boarded to gummy
invasions um but i wasn't able to get a hold of you because your account got frozen or banned or whatever it was.
So just hit me up.
On a second note, kind of what you guys were talking about with the voting structure and security.
Energy, like you've already said, but it already exists on energy.
This type of voting system and the beauty of it is that when something like this happens, like Tommy said, 99.99% of the time
when funds are stolen or digital assets are stolen, they immediately bridge it off chain.
That is like, it is like the bread and butter of criminal activity. That's the first thing they do
and they start dumping it. But with the delay that allows us to have this consensus vote,
this decentralized, I emphasize this is decentralized vote. And what this allows is for the master nodes, the validators, to come together and say that this is malicious activity, criminal activity, freezes and blacklists the criminal's wallet and returns the digital assets and funds.
But I will caveat and say this, too, and this is a very important distinction to make.
A lot of people are like, well, what if they just come in there and they just buy a whole bunch of energy and they have voting power? The moment that proposal or
that vote is live, you cannot, after the fact, collect a bunch of coins, set up a node and vote.
You will not be able to participate. Your node has to be live prior to the vote. And this is for
any proposal. This is for budgeting. This is for anything else. So again so again another layer of security i just kind of wanted to mention that tommy
yeah thank you for thanks for sharing that eric and uh you know eric is one of our one of our big
note holders on our chain and he's one of the guardians of our chain too you know and so he's
looking out for stuff too, you know,
anytime he sees something, he alerts me.
And that's what you need is you need to have a community,
everyone kind of looking out for each other
and protecting the blockchain basically.
But I will say some of these problems are advanced problems
that we haven't even got to
because the space is missing the bare bones basics.
What I'm talking about is honestly the basics. there are advanced like let's say someone tries to come and buy a lot of energy
to subvert the network i mean ultimately if enough community members came together they could
blacklist that bad actor you know god forbid if there's a disagreement in the community the worst
case scenario is there be a fork and that's something i see as a potential long-term future
let's say the government tried to subvert energy or something and tried to like in a bad way right well in that
sort of situation i'm not saying anything bad about the government we'll assume the best right
but if energy was like massive and it was like competing with the world government and they
wanted to subvert it for instance just in just in a parallel universe right um well at that point you could do a fork and you could like fork off
all those coins from this attacker and their their coins are no longer on the new fork like
these are kind of extreme um scenarios that we just have not even got to because at large the
space is is missing just the just the basics of just like we're looking around every day
and oh there's a new
hack it's like pretty much almost a daily basis if not like oh there's oh there's new 44 million
dollars stolen you know this and that and it's like we need to get the basics down you can't
build a skyscraper on sand you need to have a solid foundation and i think what has really been
revealed is the space has a very sandy foundation where like we shouldn't be having these re-accuring
events five times a week of another hack or north korea infiltration or uh you know and they're
going to get worse you know i've said that before but i strongly feel that until the space really
embraces that we need to shift we need to change we need a different way of doing
things to actually protect the people and as we talked about earlier education is such a big one
because people i think i think that's something i'm seeing more clearly that people don't know
that's possible so i want you guys all to know that it's possible and it exists today and it's
been live for years and it works beautifully is Is it perfect? No, you guys should see how our voting system works.
It's still from like 2018 because we haven't even upgraded the UI because we're focused
on building other stuff.
I'm talking about Energy Nexus.
That's where you go and control your mask.
It's hilarious.
It's on the to-do list, I promise.
Like the 100 page to-do list, you know, it's just not the top priority, but it works.
It works, you know, like we can, we can stop crime.
We can, yeah, stop them from getting away.
And as Eric was saying, the three-day delay is, is a necessary piece of the puzzle too,
because if someone's, and again, the space, I call that like level two, like level one
is the decentralized enforcement capability.
Like we're the only one who has that. But level two is creating that time delay
because if you just do decentralized enforcement,
then the hacker can steal the funds.
And again, a lot of times, as Eric was saying,
they immediately move it off.
Like they don't wait five minutes.
And so if everyone's asleep or not paying attention,
we're not the you know um if it takes any any more time than that we need it we need a couple hours or like a day and that's when the three-day delay comes in but you have time to notice hey
something bad happened and we need to be able to respond to it so So I want you guys all to know that this is possible, not only possible, but it exists and it's live.
And so help inform other people
and let them know these solutions exist.
And I will say one more thing too,
that I sometimes in the past,
and maybe I'm sure probably today too,
people are afraid of it.
They're afraid of it because the first thing they say is,
oh, well, that's not decentralized. And I've i've said this before again when they say that that means
they don't know what decentralization means decentralization again means a network cannot
be taken down if someone came to me and put a gun to my head and was like tommy take down energy
i can't do it i don't have that power that's what decentralization means i don't have the power to
take down the network that's what decentralization means you guys follow it's very very important
you know decentralization does not mean that um uh that you can't have a dow that does enforcement
so this is a big education gap and i i think it's a big um i don't know i don't know i guess i kind
of see how people get caught up in
it because they may not understand decentralization is holy so they just kind of assume that and they
want to be really careful go ahead go ahead sorry i didn't mean to cut you off there tommy i was
just going to emphasize what you were saying to you i think people think decentralized means
equals free for all uh with no security no you know nothing uh That actually couldn't be further from the truth.
And I will say this, too.
When we make the claim that energy is the safest, most secure blockchain in the world,
that claim does not mean that it hasn't been tested.
Energy has stopped malicious activity, criminal activity, significant criminal activity
from people that you wouldn't even imagine, exchanges and whatnot.
So it is battle-tested.
Yeah, thank you for that, Eric. TrueDeFi, go ahead. I see Treasure on space. Go ahead, TrueDeFi, and then go Treasure.
Yeah, for a second. I'm enjoying the space. i i i'm very intrigued i never heard about it actually i thought i know a lot uh but um obviously you guys uh slipped my attention
um maybe i've been too long in the in the labs uh during the past one and a half years however
um i need to go in my lab right now. We are doing a
mainnet test starting right now. But kudos and respect. I'm really enjoying the space.
And yeah, let's keep in touch for the future. Thanks for having me here.
Yeah, thank you for coming up. Thanks.
A pleasure having you, you man kick some butt today
we'll catch you next time and so we'll be wrapping up here shortly thank you true
defy and uh have a great day and wishing you success and what you're working on and i see we
have treasure up here the winner of the gummy invasion treasure how are you what's going on
what's up guys what's up guys guys? What's up, guys?
I just want to come up and say that I'm real.
I'm not just PFP.
Thank you, GummyInvasion, for... I can join your community. Let's go.
I love audio building, guys.
I hang out with Gabby and a lot of real people
that I actually met in real life.
And the trust, it's very important for any project.
And it's cool what you're building, you know, I have a question about, you know, the DAO.
I've been in crypto from 2017 and I've been, and I'm still in some DAOs, but what I see the
biggest problem with the DAOs, it's just people don't engage or they will engage maybe for like
don't engage or they will engage maybe for like six months you know and then they leave and for
six months, you know, and then they leave.
some major votes you know i've been in some big daos voting for like with a lot of money to to
make some big purchases and then we don't get the consensus you know people show up and actually
made a vote you know how that's gonna be dealt with yeah that that's a great question i think ultimately um i mean again and you can
think of a lot of these problems similar to how they deal it within traditional finance um i think
i think for one if people have a lot of skin in the game then they're more kind of uh more likely
to participate you can incentivize participation too some chains have done that we we haven't found
that we need to do that we get participation um pretty much near our quorum level which our quorum
levels um 10 on something 7 on another um and it's sufficient so i think part of it is you set
the quorum to you know the percentage of participation and i think over time you find people care more they're
probably going to be more active participants and um yeah that's definitely a great consideration
though yeah um and you know that's that's again a problem that i think a lot of the space has
worked on and is working on solving like that's not that's not a a foreign thing for people right it's kind of there's hundreds of dows and face similar issues
but i think the kind of big the bigger thing is how do we get people to how do we get people
understand that they can do more than just vote on you know how to spend funds or obviously there's
other decisions as well but how do we get them to understand
that they can also vote to protect themselves?
That's, I think that big...
Again, what I'm clearly seeing is
I think there's a big education gap in the space.
And I would like to see the space evolve.
I really would.
I wanna see the space be better.
I wanna see people have a safe environment.
So I think we can all work on improving participation levels.
I mean, again, for us, it works.
It's not like a screaming problem.
But it definitely could be better, to your point, yeah.
Treasure, does that answer your question?
Definitely, definitely.
And it's, yeah, it's to me question? Definitely, definitely.
And it's, yeah, it's to me, you know, it's about a trust mainly, you know, I got rocked a lot, you know, my drivalic brain years ago.
And it's, it's really, you know, the trust.
Yeah.
You gotta trust the people, trust the project, hang out for a while and yeah, know you'll be careful guys but yeah definitely
I support you guys it's a cool thing
that you're building
thanks treasure good to see you thanks for coming
up treasure is one of the
biggest supporters but I have to say anybody in the
space who will support you in your spaces
it is definitely treasure
and you know hearing about
people's wallets being drained
I think I remember when
that happened. And then there was like a call to action to go get Violetta Zeroni, who's a Web3
artist in here. A lot of people know her. We started just trying to go back and, you know,
raise the floor back up. You know, the community members, we're out here. We really do want to help.
But it is disappointing when somebody has their wallet drained and, you know, you're a community member and you just want to help other community members or give something back because someone has done something very malicious.
There are community members who want to help. And, you know, thank you to those guardians who are always watching.
So, Fox, thank you for being a guardian. I do believe Calvin Jay is another type of guardian himself.
He does. He might not see it that way, but he does. And he's always watching. There's plenty of people who are always watching in this space to help protect along with
energy. So, you know, thank you to all those guardians. So I know we're getting ready and
close to almost closing out their time here. And I'm not sure if there were any questions or if,
you know, any questions in the bubble or if anybody else wanted to come up and speak
before we start closing out. I want say so Zaki I think I think
is having a few technical difficulties so he's not able to come up with us but I
see Nuke you have your hand up go ahead yeah before you close the space I just
want it appreciates you guys and and appreciate energy i mean i already love this guy
um i love the way you you know analyze things and you know really ask the tough questions which is
something i really appreciate in the space i'm also i've also been against you know people trying
to like just extract liquidity and you know just go away from the space so yeah i really appreciate you for your
thoughtful questions and um it's it's help it does help me you know expand my mind you know we are
all bringing something new to the space so we should be open to more ideas so i really appreciate
you it's make me go do more research you know build up and get some more education on it and you know grow basically
so i appreciate you guys appreciate you grab it too thank you thank you so much thank you for coming
up hey i want to i want to actually ask one more question to you gabby and i want to hear from other
people as well too because i'm just trying to i'm trying to distill this down to its core but again what really what really put me on the path of creating the energy and
decentralized enforcement was again i cannot i cannot sit with i cannot sit with having
community members have their funds stolen and just accepting that you know it just really
i i was of the mind from the beginning there must be a way to solve
this i didn't know what the solution looked like i just knew there must be a solution
so i just wanted to ask you guys um like it it must also really bother you guys when you see
your friends or someone hacked or stolen right i mean and and if that's the case like wouldn't wouldn't do
everything you can to stop that happening in the future i'm just trying to understand better why
it's taken so long for the world to to get here i want i want to understand that because i'm i'm
missing that knowledge gap like it's kind of seems strange to me. So I just want to maybe get some feedback to understand better. You know, Tommy, I'll start off and say it wasn't the focus. It was more of we, you know,
that common thing that says do your own research, do your own research. I feel like it puts people
at risk because it's saying that, well, they, they decided to jump in and they decided to do this and they knew it was a risk.
And so, you know, you knew that could happen.
I think people are numb sometimes to certain information because when you see it once, you're like, oh, well, you know, you should have done a little bit more research.
You know, it becomes commonplace and we become numb to it.
Is it right?
No, I don't like to see anybody get drained.
I don't want anyone in this space to be drained. I don't want to be drained myself. So why would I
want that for somebody else? I would just say it wasn't the focus. Most people, and I think a lot
of people are focused on, you know, I need to build my bag, pump, pump, pump, that, you know,
that that's just not the focus is whether or not you're going to get hurt as long as you make your
money and get your piece of the pie versus, you know, what's better for the greater good.
And I think that that becomes a problem when we don't focus on, you know, what's good,
what's better for the greater good versus what's good for myself.
Well, at least it didn't happen to me, you know, or it didn't until it hits home,
until it hits one of your friends or until it hits home, it's not important.
But as soon as it comes to's not important. But as soon as
it comes to your front doorstep or as soon as it happens to you, now you're ready to say,
I need safety. I need safety. And it shouldn't be that way. It just wasn't a focus because I think
greed topples that possibly. I see Foxen with his hand up. Yeah, no, I absolutely love what you just
said too. And I think in the space, especially years ago, people were so worried about, you know, this idea of if I give financial
advice and it doesn't go well with them, or if I give them, you know, any kind of hint to where to
go and where to get research, I'm going to be held viable, right? I'm going to be held viable by the
SEC or whatever it may be. But there's a big difference between giving somebody financial
advice or financial promises and guiding them to the right information.
There's nothing illegal about telling them this is the website you go so that way you can be onboarded securely.
This is the website.
This is the information you need.
Now, you make the choices, but this idea that we just use this blanket cover, you know, not financial advice, you know, do your own research.
blanket cover, you know, not financial advice, you know, do your own research.
That do your own research, I have found in Web 2, which is called just the real world,
they don't know where to go.
And to your point, Gabby, you said, well, research, there's so much misinformation out there.
Yeah, they're doing their own research, but it's incorrect and unsafe information.
So I think we need to do our part and educate people in the space and in the real world, you know, five degrees of separation.
You hit up five people in your community, in your area, then they hit five people.
And then now we're educating and onboarding people securely to where my grandmother can come into the space.
She can invest her money and she can come into the energy blockchain.
She can say, look, I don't know much, but I know it's secure.
I just wanted to say
that thank you gemi i'm not sure if um treasure or nick
yeah if you guys go ahead god i mean i i could say you know in my case you know it, the training of my wallet was a big event, a wake-up call, that this is why I went through a trustless, decentralized way, and this is why I support the Raincoin.
But again, that's just me.
Now it's very hard for me to trust anybody or anything that I connect to.
anybody or anything that I connect to.
I can see that
there has to be some kind of centralized stuff
in a lot of coins and a lot of projects.
So yeah, it's really just the trust.
just go trustless, but
there is really not many projects
that are completely trustless.
Like really, really trustless.
Like the crypto was designed
first time, know like you
don't need to trust nobody there is really not many of them but yeah but this is why i'm in a
raincoin you know uh this is one very special project not gonna show you guys if you want to
do your own research as you know teaching here you just go and do your own research
thank you treasure please feel free to post that in a nest or in a purple pill.
Love that your storytelling, and I think we've said this through all the spaces,
storytelling is so important because we are all here learning,
and we've all gone through something.
And so to share those stories will help protect someone else.
So thank you, Treasure, for sharing.
I wanted to pass the mic over to Mark or a nuke,
or if you had anything that you wanted to respond to that same question that
Tommy just asked us.
If not, that's okay too. Okay.
But I'll pass it over to Mark and over to Tommy.
Well, let me just, I wanted to say, by the way,
thank you guys for that feedback.
I got clarity, so I appreciate that.
One image that came to mind for me,
if you guys heard that experiment when they had like monkeys
and in like a cage or something,
and the monkeys would like find the pole,
there's a banana at the
top right but whenever they would find the pole they would get shocked so i'm not saying it's
humane i'm just just a study i heard about and then what happened was uh um eventually um they
would remove the shock component but um and like a new generation of monkeys would come in and they
try to go get the banana but um the other monkeys would like pull it away. Like, you know, so even though there was no shock, the kind of behavior was ingrained that not to try to go get the banana because you're going to get shocked.
It really made me think that that is actually maybe what's going on in the crypto space in the way that when someone gets hacked or scammed or drained or whatever, the people around them say, oh, you know, that's your fault.
You should have read the thousand page handbook.
Duh.
Didn't you read the handbook?
Didn't you read the golden handbook of like a million things that you never thought could happen to you in crypto?
of like a million things that you never thought could happen to you in crypto.
But yeah, so I think that's the people's response is
when someone has something bad happen,
the response to them is just,
oh, you know, you should have been more careful,
should have done more research.
And that's kind of the de facto thing that people go to.
But I think that comes ultimately from what
i'm what i'm starting to see more clearly it really comes down to like we were talking about
earlier just a lack of education if people would educate each other that hey you know there is a
better solution that a blockchain should protect its network then i think the wheels of change
begin i'm going gonna think about this more
because that's some really i'm getting clarity on it too because you know it's kind of in the
back of my head for for a long time really and and kind of a bit baffling to me of uh why uh
why people haven't figured it out but i think i'm starting to understand better that
just i think people know and the de facto again thing that they tell their friends or something is uh oh you should
have done your own research or you should have known about that and kind of put the onus on the
poor victim like the poor victim should have known better but not not put it on that oh there's a
better solution that actually protects that. So interesting.
Yeah, this has been really a great space because educational spaces are the best. And then what we can pull from other spaces to bring people in here who are new founders like Nuke and people
from like ShinyGal that has her space as well, bringing more people into the space, doing more
educational things instead of telling people to do your own research.
Let's figure out how are you really doing your research?
What are the places that we can possibly direct you to to do appropriate research and not
just go into the idea that, hey, you may or may not get rugged depending on what you invest
Make sure, like you said, you read the thousand page handbook that tells you how to not invest
in something, which a lot of people don't,
we don't half of us don't even know what we're reading when we do read it.
So we're putting it through chat GPT or grog or deep seek. And, you know,
we don't know what the misinformation that even comes from the AI led area as
well, even though AI has been very good to many of us in here.
And we do use it as a resource to even understand more. So yeah,
there is a call
to action. And I really do appreciate this space and always appreciate this space because there's
always something new to learn here. So with that being said, I know we're getting ready to kind of,
you know, wind down here and close out. I'm not sure if there was any other comments
or any other questions, but I think that was a great question to us. Like, you know,
why does it take us so long to get to this point? But I don't know, Tommy, think that was a great question to us. Like, you know, why does it take
us so long to get to this point? But I don't know, Tommy, do you have a call to action for us? Is
there something that we as a community can do to help better this space? I know you say we teach
everyone, but a lot of us still need to have the education as well and need to make sure that we're
not providing misinformation to new people. So what would be your call to action to us?
not providing misinformation to new people.
So what would be your call to action to us?
Yeah, I mean, I think if you guys go to our website,
energy.world, there's an energy defense page
or just Google energy defense, pop up.
But I would encourage you guys all to read that,
which will kind of recap what we talked about here
on this call.
And I would encourage next time you guys hear your friend
or someone getting hacked or drained or whatever that, you know, look, I kind of did some of the heavy lifting here, you guys.
Like when I ran into it, that's my personality.
Right.
I'm and I'm also the sort of person that's like, there's got to be a way, you know, for better or worse.
That's how I am.
And and that's how I approached it.
I was like, all right, my friends are getting their stuff stolen.
I just felt this can't be the future.
This is seven years ago, you guys.
I'm like, this can't be the future.
There's no way.
There's just no way.
You walk on the street, you don't have to worry.
Generally, in most cities, you don't really have to worry about being robbed.
Obviously there's some bad cities.
I'm talking about like most civilized places.
Like that's because the culture,
I'm literally walking by police cars as I say this,
the culture and environment has created that,
that you can reliably trust that you're going to be safe.
And so why is it so, why is it so different in crypto?
Why is it in crypto that we live in freaking Grand Theft Auto, literally?
That's a great analogy for the currency of crypto.
It's Grand Theft Auto.
It's the wild, wild west.
The cowboys running around and you got fucking outlaws that are just going to pop up and just rob you.
And there's nothing you can do because there's no police for a hundred miles. Why, why, why have we accepted that? And so I really implore you guys
to see that it doesn't need to be that way. You guys didn't have to build it. It's built.
All you have to do that. I'm seeing more and more clearly now is you guys just have to help
educate the world that I could use help with. Cause I can't do that on my own. I really can't. And I've seen that over the seven years is I'm only one voice. You know,
I can only do so much, but you guys have a tremendous amount of power too. And don't
underestimate that you plant one seed and then that person can plant a hundred seats. Maybe you
never know. So if you see your friends or community members being affected
by crime and you want to see an end to it, you have the power to do that. Just go down the same
path I did of just saying, you know what? I don't have to accept that. I don't have to accept seeing
my friend's reign. I can be the change. That is what I would ask of you,
of all of you. If you guys all do that, then we will be the change and the world will begin to change. But one thing I've seen is if we stay quiet or we don't make enough of an effort toward
it, then seven years will pass and nobody knows any better. And that's what I've seen over the
past seven years. I wouldn't have assumed that seven years ago.
I would have assumed that by now,
somehow it would have magically caught on,
but I've learned that that doesn't happen.
So there has to, you can't do the same thing
and expect a different result, right?
And so I think the best thing we can all do
is really make a diligent effort for that.
Thank you so much, Tommy.
I see we have hands up.
I think you have sparked some interest
and we don't want to lose the momentum. So if we have to go into bonus time, as Yonda
would say, we can, you know, eat up some bonus time, but I do want to go over to, I do, I
can't remember who was up first. I do see KBOT's hand up and then we can go over to
Bad A Billiard. KBOT?
Hey, thanks, Gabby. Hey, Energy. I just followed you. Interesting room, interested in being a part of the community and learning more about your blockchain. I have two questions, and these are rhetorical. You can take them with you and come back another time. What is customer service? Where is customer service in Web3? Where is it? And who is going to sacrifice themselves to address this?
Because without it, we're going to be right here where we are. And this is a hard question. You don't have to answer
it knowing that it's just something to think about because as far as I know, there is none.
And this is a decentralized place and it's global. That's all I wanted to say. Thanks,
guys. Thanks, girls. Have a beautiful week.
Thank you, K-Bah, for that question.
And Tommy may want to noodle over that because, I mean, he really does listen to the community.
I'm going to say it like Yonda always says, welcome to your new community.
Make sure that you follow everyone on this space because we have an honor and a privilege to have the developers in here.
It's not always times that they can come in here because they are in the trenches and they're working hard. And behind that energy account
is Tommy World Power. And so you definitely want to give him a follow and always worried about our
safety. And so this is a space to be and grateful and glad to have you in the community. So welcome.
With that being said, I'll say hi to Bad A Billiard. What's going on? How are you doing?
Hey, doing great. Great space. Man, I don't know about Sharon after that. Tommy, that was really well said and honestly a really good note to end on.
think for people who have been in the space for a while, I've been in for a while, originally
getting into the space was for the aspect of personalizing or owning your own assets,
right? Like financial assets, managing them yourself, right? Not handing it over to a bank.
And then like, I've had the instance where I can't withdraw money or what, all these odd things going
on. And we say, we want to own our own assets and we want to do it securely.
Security isn't necessarily that flashy, right? It doesn't catch everybody's eye, but it's
fundamental to owning your own assets and feeling comfortable with the custodial aspect of it.
aspect of it. I feel like personally, the writing is on the wall with the level of adoption of the
cryptosphere with the stablecoin use worldwide and what we see with governments and whatnot.
I do believe, again, while maybe what's important right now isn't necessarily the most flashy or
the thing that catches people's eye, there's an absolute future for it. And I think it's a matter of people realizing,
you know, the benefits that security offers, and this is the way that it will be done. So
anyways, like I said, you said it extremely well. Those are my thoughts. And I think
good things do take time, but they're worth doing. So, you know, as someone who's in the
community, I implore, keep moving forward. Like you said, share this information with those
that are looking for answers, too, because there are. There are a lot of people looking.
Thanks for coming up, Beth. Good to see you. Great words.
Thanks for coming up, Bette. Good to see you. Great words.
With that being said, I know we're whining on time. Maybe we don't need that bonus time.
Don't want to lose momentum if there's momentum in this space.
We do want people to continue that momentum because there's a hunger for safety, security, understanding.
And yes, it had to take us this long to get here, but we can be the call
to action, be the change you want to see. So as for us to go out here and educate people,
but get the right education, come to spaces, come and speak, come and ask those questions.
The only question that is not a good question is the question that's never asked. So make sure
that you come in, share these spaces with people, get more people involved and encouraged to come in.
All are welcome.
And with that being said, I know we don't have our music.
I think Sulsaki is having a few technical problems,
which is okay.
But with that being said,
I will pass it over to Mark and Tommy
for the last final closing thoughts.
Thank you so much for this space.
And thank you for everyone who came in today
to share the space and the panel with us.
Mark, I haven't been quiet in this space. You want to join in? We were obviously talking about a lot
of good stuff, but if you have any last thoughts and I'll close it out.
He might've fallen asleep.
I'm here Tommy.
Yeah, I'm here Tommy.
I just, I mean, I just keep listening to this.
There's a lot of content.
I want to make sure, you know, we don't lose track of that.
But yeah, my final thoughts,
uh, please tune in next week. Please tune in next week. Same time, 10 AM ESD. Uh, we'll be back again. That's all Tommy and more updates, uh, more innovations, uh, more growth.
Right on. Thank you, Mark. Uh, well, I'll just close in saying i appreciate you all thank you guys for
being here uh thank you guys for for listening and and being open to to seeing how we can do
things in a better way and um you know and uh again i just remind just remind everybody it's, it's not, it's not all easy.
And as you guys are telling people about this, you will, what I've experienced
personally is, um, when I was doing it years ago is some people would tell me
it's not possible, maybe even ridicule you or something like that.
But I think really one thing I learned is if you're doing it for the right
reason, none of that stuff matters.
And that's really what it's about.
Like, it's really about feeling the pain of our friends, of ourselves, of anyone that really has been affected by crime and saying, you know what?
We can change the world.
We can do things in a better way.
And it takes that conviction, you know know and you got to just you guys
are convicted and you push that change we can really we're not just talking about changing the
crypto space you guys we're talking about changing the world i want you guys to understand that when
i told you guys when i figured out my life purpose you know it's about changing the world
and blood is the or excuse me money is the blood of the world So if you want to have a healthy world, you need to have healthy money
You know, and that's what really this is about
And you know what? I don't even care if it's energy or something else. I'm not doing it for that
I'm doing it to change the world
But so far we're the ones leading the way I would love to have some people in our corner
You know, let me tell you guys something. I was talking to AI about it, and this one shocked me.
It was like, how many blockchains are out there?
Thousands, right?
If there was one out of 100 other chains that were on this level,
we would have a couple dozen allies.
But we're pretty alone out there.
And that, to me, tells me we need to keep leading the way we need
to keep setting an example we need to keep educating people you know people projects etc
you know they need to know that they should take as much responsibility as possible to protect and
and there's a way to do it and we've already invented it and i'm here to help, um, guide, give advice, whatever. I want to see the world change,
man. That's what it's about. So you guys are all part of that. And you guys are early in that.
Like, uh, I think, you know, I think it's inevitable. I think this is what has to happen
one way or another. It has to happen, but, um But let's just make it happen faster, huh?
Because we're all getting a little older every day, right?
And I want to see it.
I want to see it before I'm 80.
Let's get it there.
And everyone's going to be happier.
And, you know, your kids will be happier.
They'll be in a better world.
Like, let's change the world.
You guys can be a big part of that.
So don't underestimate
your power and that will end on that
all right and on that note note oh any uh i guess I'm the last word so or did someone just come up?
It looks like so let's just wrap it guys so Zaki came up so maybe you want to do the music so Zaki?
You got it? Let's go uh Thank you. so Thank you. so Thank you all. See you next time. Thank you.
