And welcome to going cross chain with seller. We are here joined by Steve Yu from the seller network and Sam from the swing team for an exclusive AMA to discuss sea bridge integration into swing and to talk about the seller
network and it's across chain technology. My name is Akshay Singh, I'm the marketing manager at Swing. And during the AMA we will touch upon what is seller and the team behind it, seller's approach to security and decentralization
technology, technology, and trends in the blockchain space. And also talk about the motivation behind integrating seller sea bridge into swing and much, much more.
again, would like to take a moment to thank you all for joining in and hope everybody is excited for the space ahead. So we'll quickly get started with an introduction from our guests. So hi Steve, great to have you here.
Thanks, Akash. And happy Friday, everyone. I'm Steve from Cellar Network, I'm the head of VD. I'm glad to be here on Friday to join you guys and talk about some of the things that we're working on. But as a sort of a background intro, Cellar Network, we were founded in 2018 by a strong team
of engineers with some incredibly technical and specialized experience and all four of the core founders of Cellar or PhDs in computer size from top programs like MIT UC Berkeley and places like that and many of their teams, my team
And the main thing is that the technology that we are using in the world is not only recognized, but they are pretty well regarded in the use of real world application for successfully implementing algorithmic game theories to protocol designs or leading the building of Google
Center, networking infrastructure or launching their Google file telecom divisions. So that's sort of the composition or the faculty, so to speak, of our founding team. Now, currently, where a Southern network is an interoperability
platform. We're supporting the bridging of Funds of Potokins, NFTs, and General Message Passing that were also related with swing to 48 chains, I think, at the moment. And hundreds of applications, and we've surpassed over 14 billions in transaction volume to date.
And that is without compromising our smart contract. So, men were very glad to be supporting a number of key ecosystem partners, including Metamask, where 80% of their bridging aggregation currently is going through sea bridge.
That's a little bit about us. Thanks. Wow, thanks Steve. That's really an interesting insight and it'll be great to not touch upon these things, the security part, in detail going further. So before we go ahead and jump into those things, we all
also have Sam here from the Swing team. Hi, Sam. Would you like to just share a brief introduction with our listeners today? Yeah, thanks, actually. Hey, everyone. Thanks for joining today's session. I'm Sam, the co-founder and tech leader of SwingDaxliz.
I think everyone knows about the XAD, so I'll just talk a bit about my home background. I started my crypto journey in 2017 and around 2018 long before the NFT boom, I worked on an NFT platform to help artists for content creators
to issue ERC-20 tokens. In 2019, along with a group of researchers, I defined a EIP-1159, which is to make the upgradable contract possible. So doing COVID, I got to know our co-founder
We were looking at the Pakadaut and near protocol school, like several online conferences. Just as a learning project, we built several small applications on near and Pakadaut and also Cosmos. So that's the starting point of Sway.
Thank you Sam for that brief introduction and I believe everyone is Pretty excited and and looking forward to the discussion and the talks that we are going to have For those of you who may have missed it or who don't know Sam is the seat you
at swing and here it's swing cross-chain swap and cross-chain staking are some of the most exciting use cases that swing is actively working upon. So Sam, would you like to touch upon that in brief as I have a follow-up question for Steve Den.
Yeah, sure definitely so I think question swap yeah as you mentioned actually questions well done questions taking are I guess the most exciting application that we can view the power of center even the setter enable a question transfer and that's one of the
largest volume, largest volume of the size. So I guess especially for the intergen message, like the seller provides, I think you guys call it the IAM, we're able to build more applications upon
And also we're able to you know open the gate for other applications to build more exciting applications upon it. So we'll become a building block for the Web 3 Lego world. So I'll say like I don't know
know like if there are a lot of you know more products or interesting products that Steve you know about like CETTER that keep CETTER network busy and if otherwise being next you know busy building upon CETTER network
>> Yeah, so Steve, would you like to touch upon some of the interesting products or the use cases that you guys have been visible on top of the seller network? >> Sure, absolutely. I think Sam brings up a good point because you know,
I think a lot there's so many projects right now that are focused on improving their I think individual, Elwano or El-2 or application like that but where you know as a bridge operator one of the things that we do is we talk to about two or three dozen projects
and a weekly basis. And I can tell you that some of the top projects that are maybe about 5% or 3% of them are doing what swing is working on using the cross-chain swap and cross-chain staking things of that nature because I think, you know, now that we support
We get a really good post for which chains or which ecosystems are really strongly behind their community and want to boost it up. So it's it would be a kind of a shame if we leave a
some of the chains out because we were able to do these cross-chainswaps or staking. So providing the infrastructure for very promising projects like Swing is something that we eager to do because it helps us all move forward in the ecosystem.
So that it opens up a wider door for adoption. So just touching on a little bit what Sam was saying about the seller I am, is basically our interchange messaging framework. It basically changes how multi-blockchain
or DAPS that are on multiple blockchains or built in use. So instead of deploying a multiple isolated copies of smart contracts on different chains, now we can build in a chain native DAPS that are much more efficient with liquidity utilization, application logic and share states. And the result of
that is now you have this thing called swing that unifies cross chain solutions on steroids. So it's really fun to see the different use cases like this. I know that another use case also is like pancake swap is also
using us for their cross-chain reward claiming, basically allowing their users to open their position on Ethereum and then collect the yield token cake on Binance. So, you know, there's a number of different projects that are using it every from lending to insurance.
sharing, underwriting decks like you guys, and NFT swapping, and things like that. One part of our work that is very close to being launching is using NFT
and DeFi, or I should say they're in those two sectors. They're allowing their users to basically deposit their NFT as a collateral on, let's say, Binance, but borrow against that for a completely different asset like USD on Polygon.
So it's really interesting to see these projects coming together for a more cohesive use of resources and liquidity. So those are some of the things that I'm able to observe here as a bridge operator.
That's interesting and you made a couple of really insightful and interesting points here Steve, as you mentioned, right? Like you guys are trying or you make sure that you know as many chains as possible.
should be included within the ecosystem can be integrated. So the more inclusive the ecosystem becomes by including as many chains as possible, even we believe the more efficient it will be for anyone or any project or any individual to go cross chain. And as you were touching
about touching upon these more cohesive use of NFTs and the tech. So yeah, we definitely have something on the similar lines that we will touch upon later down the lane. But just going to take a step back here and at the beginning, you know, during the introduction you talked about and you
and you mentioned that it's been an amazing feat that's what Celler has achieved with respect to enabling the cross-chain transactions and the bridges and the bridging. And there is no security issue
So just touching upon that, can you explain what is the cellular networks approach to security and decentralization? And how do you guys balance these priorities with the need for security?
speed and efficiency for example. Yeah, that was a very good question and you know this is something that I often try to get the viewpoints of our core developers or even our founding team and sometimes it's this leads to sort of a philosophical question.
Q&A kind of thing, but really we take security and decentralization very seriously. I mean for starters our code base has gone through multiple internal and external security audits. We have implemented a combination of on-chain and off-chain measures to minimize any possibility
security beach or any questionable attack, so to speak, right? I jokingly talk to some of my colleagues about that my job is a little bit high risk because when I do these calls with our partners, it's a video call.
If there's any question about their liquidity being compromised, I don't want any problems of those guys flying over from around the world looking for me. So I don't want that issue. So we take this extremely seriously. The backbone of sea bridge is really based on a time tested.
centralized proof of stake blockchain called the stake-artisan network is basically the beating heart of a seller network. It's a reasonably large number of validators work together to monetize all the on-chain transactions and they're at, how do I pronounce that again, at testations, right? So that
centralized party can do any malicious attacks. And I know that from bringing, helping bring some of these validators on in the beginning that they had to have at least $500 million assets on their management for us to even consider them. And they were all geographically dispersed.
And even if our state-coding network was somehow compromised, our on-chain smart contracts have strict rate limits to guard against any unusually large liquidity inflow and outflow, also any irregular behaviors.
So it goes through quite a bit of scrutiny and gauntlet to do this. And we have also optimized for speed and efficiency wherever we can. And with our current security model, the bottleneck we're processing these cross-chain requests is really
SDN validators need to wait on the launching transaction to be safe. So yeah, it is one aspect of what we do is no compromise is on the security and you know, so yeah, that's that's our approach to this and you know to our testament again as we
touched on earlier in the intro, we've gone from the beginning, you know, supported over 14 billions in transaction volume without a single hitch on our smart contract level. So our partners are pretty happy with it and, you know, I tend to stay safe by upholding my
my promise to our partners that we do our best. Well, thanks, thanks, Steve, for sharing these best practices, I would say, like, you know, keeping a check on the liquidity flow, keeping a check on the news and behavior, be on point with the audit. So definitely these best
practices can serve or it can be taken up as a learning material from you guys for any other bridges or network or the projects who are working upon in this cross-chain ecosystem and trying to grow it.
Sam, do you have any question at the moment for Steve? Anything you would like to shoot? Yeah, not really. I think Steve answered every question really often way, but I really want to touch more upon the decentralization of
the set of network. I know Center has a pretty good infrastructure on the question. One of the most secure question for each, I think Center has a really good SGN network. I don't know, Steve can speak more about SGN network and give the audience more background.
So what about the SGM? Yeah, it's basically that's our backbone about it. So yeah, I mean, currently I think we have at least 21 validators and some of these validators are some of the top ones also
supporting a number of the top ecosystems. Great. Thanks Steve for sharing an insight on that too. Moving forward, a while back, seller launched
It was a very big launch. We all get to witness the launch and we get to learn about that, which is a zero-knowledge, omni-chain data attestation platform.
keeping that development in mind, how do you see the blockchain space will be evolving over the next few years? And what role do you think, you know, Cellar Network will play in shaping that future? Yeah, this is an interesting one because it's, how do I say,
I haven't seen my team this excited about a sort of a new technology or new projects since we launched a bridge recently because you know when you have a very high academia a bunch of PhDs and people the masters and trying to figure the some of these most difficult challenging challenges that are out there
And the space and if those guys are also re-studying mathematics to really comprehend zero knowledge, that's a whole other level that we see of enthusiasm. And just by nature as an academia, we commit a significant
of our resources into the R&D including research. But brevis says that yeah, the ZK Army chain data, I testation platform and that's just a mouthful. I always have to try to say that correctly and I don't think I can ever do it right. But yeah, it just, it
But it does is it enables more contracts to access and compute data from any blockchain. So the architecture consists of three components. There's a ZK fabric, a ZK query net, and a ZK aggregator roll up. So the fabric collects block headers from all of the connected blockchains and generates a consensus.
is proof that I think that it's has to the validability of these block headers through a like-line circuit. And the query net is an open marketplace of like ZK query engines that cater to diverse app requirements, what specialize and generalize
engines, I think it accepts on chain queries and generate query results, something like that. And then the aggregator roll up is a response for basically aggregating what the query results from the query net. And then I think it generates the final ZK proof for the smart contract. So yeah,
Our view of the ZK technology is probably as I kind of alluded to in the beginning is one of the most important infrastructure innovations to the blockchain space. And for me, I'm not a tech, hardcore tech person in terms of understanding like I'm like, "Hi, my colleagues, but when I see them get excited, I know something special."
And with our, you know, to show that our expansion at the ZK space, you know, announcement around Previs, you know, we brought a powerful addition to the toolbox, right? We use it to help dApps, all kinds of products already integrating it. So right now, I think
I think just this week I had seven projects requesting support or expanding to ZK, you know, sync as well. So it's a very hot topic and to see everyone excited, not just our team, but some of the leading team members working on this is something to watch out for.
Well, yes, I'm on the same boat as you. Even I'm not a technical, technically that sound of a person since my background is marketing, but I've seen like a lot of excitement around the ZK tech. And I mean, it's really amazing that in terms of number
as you just shared, like there are already seven projects and we reached out to you guys to have support around the same. So I guess it'll be a development or it'll be a technology which will just pick up the space as we move forward and
and the growth within this particular segment to be like put it like humbly, I think it will be parabolic in that sense as well. So, thanks to talk about that and sharing on that front too.
cross-chain technology is another thing that we have seen or we are seeing that has been gaining traction in the blockchain space as a way to facilitate interoperability between different blockchains. So with Celer networks,
focus on high performance, scalable blockchain solution. I mean, it's no surprise that the team is also exploring cross-chain capabilities. So, Steve, would you like to take us through or walk us through the technical architecture of cell and networks, cross-chain capabilities and
and how it enables the interoperability between these different blockchains. Thank you for the tough question. This is something that I had to really think about and then think through because some of the partners that we engage with from the very get go, they want this
low, right, sort of understanding. So yeah, as we mentioned earlier, the sellers crushing bridge and message system is that the bedrock of that is a state guardian network, the SGN. So it is implemented as a costable SDK. It's a tenderment proof with
proof of stake, it's got the whole proof of stake reward and seller as a stake in token. The SGN serves as a cross-chain message router and it's the first set of validators as we talked about earlier are collectively responsible for monitoring basically and overseeing the
the network's bridge. So to initiate a cross-chain transaction, the user send a transaction to the bridge contract on the source chain. So if we're moving from, let's say Ethereum to Binance, the bridge contract on the source chain will be Ethereum. The S/CN then validates and
monitors the bridge contract for the transaction and basically validates it or signs it off. And once the transaction has received more than two-thirds of the total floating power, which is basically the required safety threshold for the tenderment consensus protocol.
any validating consent across chain transaction to the destination here, in this case we buy this along with all the folks. So the bridge contract on the destination chain then verifies the validator signatures and executes the course binding transaction
I think yeah. So this workflow applies to any cross-chain transaction, whether it's a ERC 20 NFT or even general message passing. So basically, you want a user go through a swing and do the transaction of the parts that we're supporting. This all is happening on the background. Yeah.
Well, definitely, you know, it does sound like and we can connect or we can understand that yes, there is actually a lot going in the background behind the scenes. So, you mentioned about, about
the technology and the NFTs. So to share my thoughts, even we here at Swing, we believe that NFT cross-chain applications is something that we really see value in and especially with the rising popularity of gaming and these meme-based
communities and projects. Here at Swing we can really see the need for such communities and projects to interact on a cross-chain level. Earlier as well you mentioned about the more cohesive use of this NFT technology. So what are your thoughts on
on the same and what emerging trends you see intersecting with cross-chain tech and how might this impact the development of blockchain application and infrastructure going forward? Yeah that's a bit question because you know again as a bridge up
When we talked to so many projects, they sometimes asked for what they need or were introduced to certain projects that were features that make more sense to the ecosystem. So for example, when we first launched our NFT bridge, it was a peg version, basically a lock-in man.
where the original is locked in the source chain and the copy is cryptographically generated or minted on the destination and when the user brings that NFT back the minted version gets burned and the original is released back to the
But one of the things that we've also thought about long and hard as an interoperability provider was, you know, what if we provided something of a something that is a multi-chain native NFT bridge, right? Because it is different than a PENCH bridge because there is no logic.
Because whenever that NFT is on the chain, that is the only original, the OG. So I think it provides a little bit more psychological, I would say a piece of mind that the user is always holding the real quote unquote Louis Vuitton.
So that's something that we were able to kind of quickly get out there and we already have a few projects integrating that on that space and the other thing is I think we have gone a long way from a theorem centralized blockchain is you know and now where the user
There are so many different ecosystems. Just a couple of years ago most crypto originals or OGs would say they would probably just stick with Ethereum. But now almost everyone is trans acting on different chains. So I think swing for sure was ahead of the curve to
see this and basically provide a unified liquidity and things like that. So yeah, and on the infrastructure side, I think historically some ecosystem that's like cosmos and I think also polkodot to some degree have more emphasis on the multi-chain. But now we're really glad
the CDEVM side also warming up to this and really supporting it. Yeah, those are some of the observations we see here. Interesting. Well, yes, to agree with what you just said, like indeed we have come a long way from the central communities and chains and by central
we are only referring to, like the idea of any transaction or any inflow of data happening within a particular blockchain ecosystem. So indeed, we have come a long way. Now, it's interesting and it's one thing to talk about all the developments that are taking place.
and the things that we are developing or you guys are developing in the ecosystem. But at the same point of time, I believe that you guys must be facing, you know, I mean, you guys can foresee or do see some challenges as well or when you are developing these texts, you know, there are some challenges that
that one comes across as well. So what are some of the main challenges, do you guys see or feel that are associated with implementing such technology on the cross-chain front? And how is seller network addressing these challenges?
Hello Steve, are you there? Yes, I was sorry, I was muted. I'm sure notice. I think the thing that keeps us really up at night and is the security side is probably no surprise because
We are dealing with our community, our entire system, the liquidity in some sense, because we are dealing with so much of all of you. We think that main challenge for any cross-chain protocol is to ensure high-level security.
I think this might be a subjective view, but oftentimes the blockchain view, the space is often viewed as this dark place where a lot of questionable things get happened. People lose a lot of money, so rollercoaster.
The open and transparent nature of the decentralized systems could be viewed as a double-edged sword in this regard, I think, in particular because prostrating protocols such as our bridge, sellers bridge, and need to stay highly vigilant, I think.
to the significant amount of funds by holding any or supporting any protocol on chain. So, you know, we talked about like the efforts we're taking and how we're enhancing security and decentralization. And I think one
that comes out of that is to simultaneously handle the large amounts of chains we're connected to because we probably say no to more projects to integrate with us than we actually integrate because we really want to prioritize on what the community is really actually
asking us for. For example, recently we've been spending quite a bit of our time supporting Sweet, getting on TestNet and then we'll be getting push them live on Maynet pretty soon any day now, I think next week. So with this app, those
based, I mean, a rusty based like guys like Aptos, we and say, so, you know, there's a whole nother set of challenges because I'm not EVM as well. So as we scale with the community's needs, it's always a growing pain that we go through.
Because some of these chains have some peculiarities that are not common, so to speak. So, all this heterogeneity requires us to be more thoughtful in the design and implementation of the cross-chain protocol because
The way I see it now is a bridge operator. There's no short of new projects. There's no short of brilliant minds that are coming into the space. So it's a really exciting time to be in the space and start developing, especially now. And again, as a bridge
If the bridge could talk, you see all this traffic going back and forth. And you see very interesting communities that are developing and growing. That's whether it's an EVM or Cosmos based or Polk with Appase. So yeah, it's pretty exciting.
Indeed it is and it's really amazing to hear your thoughts on the same and the approach cellar network is taking and your concern
related to the security because yes, as you mentioned, like 13 billion is in the volume that's the sea bridge. Cellar sea bridge has facilitated a till date, right?
Yes, for over 14 billion over 14 billion. So yeah, that's that's like a huge huge amount huge big number and definitely Here in in in this space in the blockchain space. I mean of any movement of of beta small fun of
or the big funds, like it's money, like it's people's hard money and security around the same is something that everyone is primarily, you know, is most concerned of. So that's really interesting to hear.
On that note, I would even like to bring up Sam as well into the conversation and Cellar C bridge was probably one of the earliest, if not the first bridge, to be integrated into Swain.
and the integration of the sea bridge technology like the seller sea bridge technology into swing, it represented a significant step forward in enabling greater interoperability and cross-in functionality with
within the DeFi ecosystem. So I would like to hear this from Sam here. Like Sam, what was the motivation behind integrating Sea Bridge into Swing and how do you see this integration benefiting both platforms?
Yeah, sure. So personally, I know SETTER back in 2018 because SETTER is one of the most famous layer 2 solutions out there. So back in 2018, the story was to bring to scale
up Ethereum, so there are a lot of, you know, layer two solutions. So by a backend after we started swing, I know Sator also reshaped their SGN to, I think they're going to re-use their SGN and re-use their SGN and then provide, you know, question,
So that's why it's freeing to setter to integrate. And also I know setter has pretty setters SGN because it's already you know long proved back in 2018 to be like one of the later tools. I know SGN network is one of the best infrastructure out there.
and it's very reliable and scalable. It's really high security standards. So, Sweden as a bridge aggregator, we aim to provide users the best cross-next-perience with strong focus on security. So that's why we only integrate with the bridge with high security standards.
I send the securities, send off security is the same as swing. So that's why we interview with SETER. And also SETER also moves super fast and covers most of the major blockchains since they're starting our SETER question I am. This is very impressive because
We also want to move super fast and cover as many mid-replocations as possible. While we are integrating with CETA, they also provide the best integration support with great documentation and customer service, which also enlighten us to provide the same customer support and documentation.
of on setter by integrating with setter. And also, one of the key points that drove us to, you know, integrate further with setter is their capabilities of, you know, relay inter-shamestages. In that case, like, swing is able to, you know,
not only aggregate cross-train transfer but also build more flexible cross-train applications like cross-train swap and cross-train staking. As a customer, we hopefully will be able to, you know, in your contemporary more protections and volume back to a setter, so this is like a women's situation.
Right and to continue on on the same, you know,
How do you see this integration, benefiting the broader Web 3 community and what new use cases or applications could emerge as a result? >> Yeah, I think this is a great question. So I guess, as I figured, we are trying to build our
a computer decentralized as possible. And also, as I mentioned earlier, we're trying to build a set of integer message which powered our cross-transplop and cross-transstaking on top of the original cross-transfer use case. So I think these two use-caves are just two common use-caves
And we are pretty sure there are more use cases that developers compute upon our interaction message aggregator such as you compute a cross-chain Dex, cross-chain wallet, or even a cross-chain arbitrage bot. So that's why we're trying to make our solution more decentralized.
based on contract and open source. So we'll become a fundamental building block of the overall the general back three Lego world and it will open up the gate for more developers to build more applications or you measure more applications build on swing and cellar.
Well, thank you Sam for sharing that. And this next question that I have, this basically goes to both of you. Steve to you as well and Sam to you as well. So you guys can, you know,
chime in and answer it one by one. So last year, you know, cellar-made announcement for Petty, which is the bridgeless, omni chain liquidity protocol. Can you share some
I don't that and looking ahead, what developments or similar milestones in the cross-chain space, you are looking forward to or you are most excited about Steve. We'd like to hear from you first. Yeah.
I think the last year we announced a pettier, the bridge list, omnichain, liquidity protocol. So the background on that is like, as we're supporting like quite a few different ecosystems where obviously there's got to be
liquidity on the chains for the ecosystem to start moving. So petty is an omnichannel liquidity protocol. It's a building block that enables users and market makers to freely transfer and swap assets across multiple chains. So it's a more
more smooth and cost efficient experience for I would say power users while providing some liquidity efficiency for professional and institutional market makers. Now, like when my team says the state of the art, you know, inflammation of such a protocol,
I tend to take it because I know what these guys were capable of. And because it enables, like, the best army chain trading experience for both traders and market makers was zero slippage and unlimited liquidity. Because it uses this, you know,
engineering term for, I guess, just in time liquidity to improve the capital efficiency for liquidity providers as opposed to mostly idle liquidity pool, right? So I think there's a lot of people who have money, but they want to find the most ideal place to get the
So this works both ways. It's a great compliment to the standard liquidity pool model right now using the sea bridge. Professional market makers, specialized like the EZOM hands on frequent management of liquidity can leverage parity to get a higher capital efficiency.
Probably while small, smaller retail equity providers who prefer like this fire and forget approach can comfortably earn a yield by resting their funds in this liquidity pool. So circling back, I think to our mission, we tend to build a full fledged multi-chain
operating system that allows the various application logic liquidity states and normally segregated across different chains to basically communicate to one another and enable this seamless
of the world. So that's our view. And we love to work with Swing on providing a much more engaging and efficient product for you users as an infrastructure provider. Yeah.
Thank you. Yeah, over to you, Sam. Yeah, I mean, this is a great answer Steve, but adding to your answer, I think one of the best features that petty providers is like it will provide like to do slippage with like a me v protection. I think as a user,
or I think user like currently it's not possible or like I think it's pretty you know not reasonable to execute a large size of valotron spur or swap because it will result in like high sleep age of AMM pressing which will you know limited your
your outcome from out from Cybridge or even from Swing. Using Patti, I think user can utilize this just in time liquidity from market makers to execute transactions with zero slippage. Also, because all these transactions
is going to send directly to market makers and also from market makers they're going to execute the transactions and then send directly back to the users there won't be any, you know, MV or any chance of the sandwich box. I'm not sure if everyone knows about MV but there are a lot of sandwich
BSC or other major blockchains that you're trying to swap a large amount of tokens in Uniswap or any other decks you are subjective to get attacked by any of the damage bots out there.
So by you know directly sending your transactions to market maker, they're going to eliminate the chances of you know the sandwich a sandwich attack which will benefit users a lot. So I guess like I'm not sure like if question has a lot of MBB bot but I'm pretty sure because it's like yeah take a step
have AMM model which for us liquidity is from both chains. I'm pretty sure there are bots running to watch you know sellers transactions and do some signature tech. So I guess Pety will definitely eliminate that chance. So that's why Swings gonna you know integrate with Pety and as a spoiler of if
already finished up the integration, I mean the development. And we're going to reduce our feature maybe in the upcoming weeks. So please keep an eye on that. And we'll give you, like as a user, you'll be able to experience this still slippage and maybe protections from our questions.
Interesting. So with this particular question, we are kind of at the end of our space and the discussion that we wanted to have or
with the seller team and this was a really interesting conversation to have with you Steve. Now, before we move forward from here, like any upcoming updates or any news announcement, you would like to share with the listeners here today.
Sure. Yeah, we're, I mean, cellular network we're still very focused on the interoperative belief space. So if you guys are anyone any of the listeners out there are interested in exploring a partnership or some sort of integration. We'd love to hear from you.
One just get an idea of some of the most current updates is following us on seller network on Twitter because all the formal announcements are made through there So you could see from the different L1s and L2s that we're quickly trying to add so the next one
I think that is going to be public, it's going to be sweet, mainnet, and then followed by say, and then there's a number of other ZK projects that are working with us. So if you have any interest in us collaborating together, feel free to reach out
to me. I'm Steve View, the head of BD at Cellar Network. My telegram is @CellarMoon, C-E-L-E-R-M-O-O-N. And we're looking forward to supporting Swain and Collaborate together. So that's pretty much where Eager and Pump to do this.
Thank you for sharing that Steve and since we do have like close to 10 12 minutes left here and we also have like
over 400 guests who have joined us today. Will it be okay if we open the space to just pick up maybe probably one or a couple of questions from our listeners here?
Sure, let's go for it. Perfect. Yeah, so well guys, thanks for being so patient and listening all the insights and the thoughts from Steve and Sam. Now is your chance if anyone, you know,
know, has any any any question, anything they would like to ask anything they would like to know, please feel free to you know request to speak and we will bring you up on the on the panel on the stage. We have Steve here from the seller network who
who handles heads of business development, et cetera. And we have got Sam here, who is the CTO at swing. So yeah, anyone, please feel free to jump in. Any any question, any thought you guys may have?
Oh, seems like our listeners today are a bit shy. Nonetheless, I guess this was really an interesting space. Well, thank you Steve for your time and sharing such wonderful insights.
the space on the technology, what seller is doing. Really appreciate that. And thank you Sam as well for your time here. Thank you. It's been fun. I hang out with you on a wonderful Friday. Again, everyone, have a great weekend.
take care yourselves and again I'm Steve you be happy to be part of this conversation from Cellar Network so feel free to reach out to us my telegram again is @CellarMoonCELRMOON and we look forward to supporting our Swing community and partner thank you
Thank you everyone. Thank you, Steve. Have a great day. Thank you, Steve. Bye-bye. Bye.