Projects
![]()
No projects found
Investors
New
DAO Treasuries
DATs
Lend / Borrow APRs
Chains
Categories
Spaces
Happy Hour. Open topic with dirty blues in the background.
Recorded: May 7, 2025 Duration: 4:47:42Space Recording
Short Summary
VFriends has launched a new line of trading cards in partnership with Topps, marking a significant token launch in the NFT space. The cards are expected to sell out quickly, reflecting a growing trend in collectible NFTs and a strategic fundraising effort to support the VFriends ecosystem.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Music Music Music
Music
Music
Music
Music
Music
Music
Music
Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Yes, I'm nothing but a shadow, baby
The shadow of my poor myself Yes, I'm nothing but a shadow, baby.
To send out all my phone myself
The shadow of my phone, I said.
Since you left me in the darkness
And go to someone else
I tried so hard to find you
I was looking everywhere.
I spent all of my money.
Now I got no place to stay.
Hey, Alicia.
How you doing?
Hey, Mike.
How's it going, dude?
Pretty good, pretty good.
Just waiting for people to show up.
Yeah.
We got Lady Magic up in here.
There she is.
Yep.
There she is.
Had a half day at school today.
Okay.
That's nice.
Senior presentations.
All right.
Yeah.
It was pretty good, though, my morning my morning at school honestly School should be coming
Pretty close to an end shouldn't it
Yeah I've got like
After today 24 days left
Of freshman year
Okay
I like that
Oh yeah
Hello to you Lady Magic Hey sweetie how are you doing I like that. Oh, yeah.
Hello to you, Lady Magic.
Hey, sweetie.
How are you doing?
Good.
How are you?
Good.
I'm good.
Yeah, of course.
I just abruptly left our other space, Mike.
I was like, oh, look, Mike, we started.
So I went ahead and just I just like clicked on your link.
And that was that.
It yanked me right out.
Oh, wow. Yeah, it does that. I went ahead and just, I just like clicked on your link and that was that. It yanked me right out. Oh, wow.
Yeah, it does that.
I was thinking about it.
It's like, you know, this is a scheduled weekly thing and that's a pop-up, so.
Yeah.
So this is priority, especially if I'm co-hosting.
Yeah, exactly. So consistency is what you need.
But, exactly. So consistency is what you need. But yeah.
That and occasionally Smit gets preoccupied with other things and doesn't say anything.
So you get some gaps in the air.
Too much airspace.
That's true.
And guess what?
So yesterday in Culinary Basics, basics i was making pizza which i'm on
this week for the cafe i burned myself on the oven no don't do that i'm okay all right it's not too
bad yeah i've burnt myself more than i can count probably i burnt myself on a toaster oven one time. Yeah, yeah. Easy to do.
Easy to do.
Yeah, it was in the process of... So, you guys know how I'm a former Girl Scout, right?
I do.
Yeah, I'm a former Girl Scout from my town.
So, a year ago, when I was showing my troop how to make Welsh rarebit, which is a food from the UK that my mom taught me how to make, I, in the process, burnt myself on the toaster.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that can happen, for sure.
Yeah.
Welsh rabbit is, like, a delicious kind of food from the UK.
There's no meat in it, actually.
It's just bread, butter, and cheese.
Yep. Here they come. All right just bread, butter, and cheese. Yep.
Here they come.
Alright, I guess we're going to populate.
We got Lyft ticket,
Hex Deflex,
let's go.
Oh, yeah.
How's the music?
Music good level?
Yeah, nice. It's perfect.
Alright.
I think everybody figured
you were going to be playing some music to begin with.
So, they're lagging.
You guys have caught on to me.
Yep.
That's okay though. I like it.
And I am supposed to be
the co-host, so yeah.
That's true. That's true's true I own in my closet
I have a whole bunch of jackets
I just realized two of them are varsity jackets
Nice
I have one from the band Motionless in White
Which is official merch from them
The other one is from an NFT project
What NFT project?
That project is long lost.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I have a varsity jacket from them.
I was opening it on Christmas morning.
I thought I got a Santa suit at first.
You know, you've managed to curate quite the communities.
Yeah.
It's nice.
Yeah, definitely.
I'm still a holder of the crypts as well.
I'm never selling my crypt, honestly.
No, why would you?
Never going to sell it.
Too good.
The skull is too good.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
All right, we're starting to get some people in here.
Yeah.
This is good.
I hope the other space went well.
It sounded like it was going well.
This is nice too.
Yeah, we're starting to get people open here.
Sorry to leave so abruptly
smit, but I am the co-host in here.
We have solo auditions for chorus
tomorrow.
All right. We have two songs that for chorus tomorrow. Alright.
We have two songs that have solos.
Cool.
That being Fernando in the album Medley, and we have Jolene by Dolly Parton.
Wow, nice.
Mm-hmm.
Those two are ones that we're doing.
I actually have my chorus folder in my backpack.
I like those.
Oh yeah.
The other two in the ABBA medley we have are Dancing Queen and Mamma Mia.
Yeah, of course.
In class yesterday, when we were going through it, right before Dancing Queen started, I'm
like, what comes after Thursday? And then we go right into Dancing Queen.
It's like, one of my teachers
just started laughing.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I remember
those days. It was a long time ago
for me, though. I can be goofball
in school sometimes.
Well, I think we all could
be, for sure.
Yeah. Oh, yeah, the field trip
that I had last Friday,
it went really well, actually.
Where'd you go?
We went to Great East Festival
in Summers, Connecticut,
and then we went to Six Flags New England
in Ogawan, Massachusetts.
All right.
You know, my son's in school in Massachusetts.
Really?
Yeah.
He went to prep school out there, and now he's playing lacrosse in college.
Oh, cool.
Yeah.
So he'll be home.
When I graduate from high school, I'm going to go to college over in Mass.
Oh, where are you thinking about?
Berklee College of Music in Boston.
Yeah.
I used to perform with a woman who went there. She was fantastic.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah. I remember one time I was singing Castle of Glass by Linkin Park while I was on the phone with my friends.
My mom came in and said, your vocals with that song are incredible. That really fits your range.
Cool. Well, that's's gonna be a great great
time for you um okay when you when you we ended up getting a gold medal both band and chorus at
the festival nice oh yeah i got excited when we got it you know what's funny about me what's that sometimes in culinary i walk into class going
oh yeah and my teacher's like whoa what was that i'm like i'm a half brit what do you expect
all right we should probably um kind of start getting down to business a little bit anyway
um i did have a topic to start with it doesn't't have to be. I mean, everybody in the room is sort of in our community right now.
But, oh, I didn't mean for her to leave like that.
She just dropped out a little bit.
That's probably good, though, because Lucifer wanted to come in.
And you know how he feels about that.
I don't mind giving her some time to talk.
You know, it's good.
Yeah.
It's nice that she came in I think she
I think she gets it oh she definitely does
she's a bright kid yeah
like last week she DM'd me you know
and she said is it okay for me to talk
you know
so yeah she asked
the question which is good
this week she was the only one I was talking to
so you know
well this week she was one of the only ones who showed up.
I know.
I had no choice.
I'd like to talk to her.
No choice.
Let's share the room out.
I don't think anybody's shared it out yet.
Please take your attention to the little purple pill in the bottom right corner of your screen.
Post, repost, and tag your favorite people.
You know, so VFriends, they released
Topps cards today. Topps trading cards.
There was a Chrome edition, and then there's a less expensive
edition and they were supposed to be at various GameStops and different stores
around the country starting today. You could buy them on the TOPS website but
they got sold out pretty quick. And during lunch, I took lunch early and I
went to this this store near near where I work to stop in because they were on the list to have these cards.
And I stopped in and I was talking to the owner and he said that they don't have them yet.
That he keeps looking and it says that they're on the move, they've been stuck in one city in california for
like two days now and they're not actually uh actually coming yet he's like you can check back
you know three or three thirty today and find out and it's like i didn't because i was on my way
home right i got a space to run so um but he also casually just said, oh, yeah, by the time they get here,
it's probably going to be $400 or $3 something.
I was just smiling, and I'm like, yeah, fuck that.
I'm not doing that.
Retail on these things are $140 for the top box,
and then the other box is $30 30 bucks or 25 bucks something like that
35 whatever but yeah i'm like really i'm not paying that not a chance neither am i
nope good luck to them oh they'll they'll, they'll sell out.
I'm sure.
but you know,
it's just the,
the people trying to gouge right away,
reselling,
you know,
on open markets and stuff like that.
I see,
but if you're contracted as a store to get these things,
shouldn't it just be retail?
It should be.
Yes. But I'm sure they all tack on their own fees for their overhead. just be retail? It should be, yes, but
I'm sure they all
tack on their own fees for their overhead.
Because I'm sure GameStop
isn't charging any more than retail.
No, GameStop's
been around a long time, too, though.
For the ones that have it, so.
Yeah.
But.
Yeah.
So you guys have been doing some trading, right?
Yeah, a little bit.
That's cool.
A little bit.
Got a couple of the ones I hadn't gotten.
Yeah, I still...
I think I only have four different motions right now.
That's a heads up.
Four different motions. I think I only have four different emotions right now
Four different emotions. Hey, welcome everybody, you know, you know the deal it's a
Get some nice
Nice whiskey blues in the background and we hang out happy hour and
I did have a topic. We don't have to talk about it but had a topic I did want to discuss I was hoping to get other communities in
here though because I think every instance like the MFers right they they they have
this community but they don't do anything they're like anti-establishment
it's the community actually set up a discord because the founder has no
discord whatsoever he left everything up to community
He just created the art and said here you go
You guys have at it and so they all kind of did that themselves
But the only and I don't know where the discord is. I don't think I'm in it
I haven't been invited, but I should ask somebody but
You know I they hold spaces
They do that, but they're kind of anti-establishment
Which is kind of fun.
And they're pretty strong, right?
And the floor price is good.
It's up, what, 0.5, 0.6, usually hovering around there all the time.
So that's pretty good.
And then, of course, you've got the club right the the big club the board apes that they throw their party every year and they're developing their other side platform which i
think there's going to be some games there too but it's just a bunch of different lands so
builders can go build whatever they want i know don has one for the tigers
so he's going to build out one of
those lands for the typical tigers. Doodles, they just had their, they're about to have their dude
drop, and interesting about that too, like with penguins, with Pengu, right, they kind of gave
Pengu to almost everybody who's been around for a while
and participated in the whole community, the NFT community itself, right? Most people got a little
bit. Obviously, you got a lot more if you held their assets, but with Doodles, they're like,
I saw the list that came out and I didn't even
know some of those projects that were on the list that they were allowing to participate
along with the community members.
And I know there was some stuff on the timeline saying, well, why isn't it for everybody?
I know somebody from Doodles came out and said, well, look, you guys didn't support
So why are we going to give you money?
That's funny.
I didn't know they had done that.
Yes.
Kind of makes sense, though.
It does make sense.
Yeah.
But that brings up another thing, too, right?
They told the community, they said, look, like a year ago.
Now, I'm not in it, but I know some of this stuff.
And they told the community a year ago, take your doodles and put them in space, right?
It's valuable to you.
And those that did it get more of an airdrop than those that didn't.
So space means more than just holding the asset
or having more assets.
For like a year, man, they've been telling people,
do this, do this, do this.
Some people did, some people didn't.
And the ones that didn't are not participating as much.
They're not getting as much of an airdrop.
Which also makes sense.
You don't reward the people that don't show.
Better work for it.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The people that show up every day are the people that actually want to
participate and play the games and,
you know,
do the things that you're providing for them to do.
It does make sense.
Yeah.
100%.
It's like, we got, what, 900 holders
and we have how many that are active?
Look at the room.
There's a few more.
They're asleep.
Yeah, just a few more.
Exactly, they're asleep.
We'll give them the excuse.
They're sleeping.
Yeah.
I wonder if they give us that consideration during the spaces at 3am.
What do you think? Or 4am.
I find myself being really selfish.
I'm like, why are you doing this in the middle of the night over here?
And stuff like that. I'm not even thinking about where they are.
This isn't fair at all.
Weiner. that and not even thinking about where they are yeah this isn't fair at all whiner yeah then you wonder well that space is recorded
definitely we missed stuff what did we miss? All right. So anybody want to come up and talk? We can talk about anything. Like I said,
you know, you know, the space it's, uh, it's pretty open. I just threw something out there
to start with. We don't have to stick with it, but, um, up to you guys how you want to do it throw out some invitations
Try to get everybody out here.
The music's too good, though, right?
Just hang out and listen to the music, man.
I've got everybody invited.
So if you can come up, great.
If you can't, great.
You've all been invited.
Talk to us.
Looks like Smith's coming up.
Nice.
He's probably mad at me.
Where'd you go, woman?
I was the only one up on stage talking and suddenly I wasn't there
no I had mortgage sweet sorry Smith
I'm co-host though I couldn't miss it
no he he you know mortgage
so he came in like two minutes,
but more, you know, he took
like five, ten. He could have kept
going, you know. Oh, yeah.
Easily. Yeah.
Easily.
But, uh,
I'm just
hanging out.
Right on.
Ooh. and I'm just hanging out. Right on. I like the music, Mike.
It's nice, isn't it?
Yeah, thank you.
I do too.
I thought it'd be nice to do something a little bit different.
As long as it doesn't drown out the talker,
you know, the speakers, then we're...
Yeah. as long as it doesn't drown out the talker, you know, the speakers, then we're, yeah.
It's a bit louder than last time,
but not,
not overwhelmingly.
okay.
You're still good.
Yeah.
Good.
Yeah.
Let me know if it's too much,
but okay.
Do you like it
i would have a buddy uh i got a buddy so i go so he plays guitar so he's like
he's like 74 years old but like he's got, he looks like a beard.
Like, what's the guy?
What's the bishop?
What's his name?
Anyway, so he knows every, like, he knows every fucking song from like the 1950s and
every fucking musician and every fucking thing
it's like oh my god man he's like a fucking encyclopedia of fucking music
and uh it's crazy it's crazy that's pretty cool i think I think. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, it is.
Like, so when you go to his house, I'd go, so, you know, we'd listen.
Like, there's always music on.
But he's actually from California.
Actually, he and hang gliders.
So he built the first hang gliders in the 70s in california um i can't remember the
name of the company uh but the first hang gliders to jump off the cliff and go go float a thousand
feet in the sky and shit like that in the 1970s and you're like now now to be the first ones to do this shit it's like you gotta be a little
little you know kind of adventurous oh my goodness
that's really interesting throw i i got the pictures so they so in the 70s it was the company out of um
hell right they're out of fucking right there in california man northern i don't think it was la
i think it was a little bit further north um but um yeah, man, they built the first
hang gliders in the
U.S. And then it went
from there.
But anyway, he's in
sac of light. He knows all
music. Like, dude, this motherfucker.
Like, oh my gosh.
Like, every band, like,
it don't matter. It does not matter band, like, it don't matter.
It does not matter.
Classical, it don't matter what it is.
And know all the words, too. Can tell you, you know, the singer, the guitarist, the drummer, the bass,
their fucking kids' names.
kids names uh what like holy shit dude and uh but um yeah man it's uh it's pretty interesting
Like, holy shit, dude.
like you you know i'll music brings a lot of you know it it just like me so I'll get on Pandora. I can put it on Pandora and, you know, different varieties, genres,
and sit there and just listen to music for fucking hours, man.
I used to be that way.
I used to listen to tons of music and stuff, and then at some point,
I don't know, my, I got into talk radio for a long time
and I kind of lost my way in music for a while and then every once in a while a song would come
on I'd be I'd be riding in the car with my wife or something and she'd play a song or she'd play
music on the radio and I'd hear something I go oh that's cool next thing I know that was like my birthday present or
showed up at Christmas time or something like that you know a dvd of the band that kind of stuff so
it kind of got me back into it again but yeah when and when I was at the office doing taxes
and stuff you know I'd certainly put on music in the background over the computer,
Sirius XM or something like that,
and play some specific channels and just listen to that all day.
Yeah, definitely, man. yeah definitely man um but anyway um what's the topic what open top topic with dirty blues oh you changed i did i changed it
that's funny i mean we don't need to talk about community with our community right
oh my goodness no i've seen something else earlier than i just read that
oh my goodness that's funny yeah i figured i'd change it why not
that's fucking funny um so how many how many emotions do you have
duh like five or six just five or six like yeah five or six of them is all okay yeah i i i got
the same too like i got a batch like you know of um the same ones and then uh uh like it like say a batch of like so so this is what you got to think of it too so
when 24 divided by like three thousand or three thousand three hundred thirty three divided by
24 so that's like 138 you know 0.8 and then so you so so with that number right there alone like there's gonna be batches where
people get that like that many in a sense regardless like regardless of the way it was
randomized like i think like it could maybe that could have been randomized a little bit more who knows i
don't know i know what you're kind of saying too in that aspect but but so i you know and you know
this is just my math in my head like i just know that you know 3333 divided by 24 only so divided by 190 like 190 holders so i don't you know
uh no just five or six though but i like but you know of course they're all different emotions
and we know they all change and then um i think the path to what is the shadow path and then
different paths too as well so uh they'll all be different in the end you know regardless
i guess of what we have
you know like trait wise within the 24 yeah um they're all gonna change it seems like it
depended on when when you're the ones that you burned right to to get yours um when that allotment
was minted for you and dropped or airdropped to you whatever um because if you look at, I'm looking at the caregivers right now,
and the entire caregivers, right, are numbers 2700, 26 something through 28, 2900, whatever it is,
you know, there's 167 of them. And so they're all in a row in one area of the mint. And so that means the other ones were probably like that too.
If I look at the Explorer, now the Explorer was down around 530, 0530, up through whatever for 200.
There's 200 Explorers.
So if your allotment was minted early then this is what you got if it was minted later then you know you got caregiver or something else or powerless um yeah powerless
is all in the three thousands and there's 267 of them so if they're going to do that sequentially, right, then what I ask Lucifer, right, is if it's possible to randomize the wallets at least.
Because if we're getting airdrops of something completely sequential, then obviously they're all going to be the same.
Because they're in the same block of 267.
because that's when they were minted and airdropped to us
Because that's when they were minted an airdrop to us.
something to think about
to try to do this again in the future if somebody's going to do this
is something I think they need to think about
because like Lift mentioned
the face doesn't change
everything else might but the face doesn't change. So everything else might, but the expression doesn't.
And that's one of the most powerful things of the image, is the expression.
So that was my point.
And that's what got lost in the argument, right?
Chris kept dragging it out as traits, or as rarity.
And it's like, no, dude, you're're missing the whole point it's not rarity at all
but again I'm not a dev I don't know if it can be done that way or not I have no
idea but you know got a few trades going so or at least I did I had a couple trades and
then I bought a couple off the floor so not bad not bad welcome Dev welcome Jay
you guys are welcome to come up and talk we were gonna talk about communities and
stuff but nobody was interested so it's an open open topic anything you want or
if you just want to sit back listen listen to some Dirty Blues, you can do that too.
About
communities. What did you say, Mike?
I'm just kidding.
I mean, this is happy
hour. Have yourself your favorite
beverage.
Smoke them if you got them.
There you go.
Please do not drink and drive you might spill your drink
that's right
smoke and fly
don't want to do that
dude I did too much of that when I was a kid
it is a miracle that I'm alive, honestly.
Yeah.
That bad, huh?
I agree.
Yeah.
I agree.
It's a miracle you're alive today.
That's funny.
Even something I didn't do to myself.
You know, it wasn't my fault that my appendix burst when I was 10.
But, yeah, that was touch and go.
But that wasn't my fault.
That could explain your obsession for skulls.
Really?
Yeah.
My breath to death.
I was electrocuted when I was 17, 18.
How'd you do that?
So it was a summer job.
And, you know, I grew up in the bowling business.
And there were some guys that they went around the country and they tore out bowling centers.
When bowling centers would go under, they were going to change them into something else.
They would go in, they would tear them out and everything.
This was in Hayes, Kansas.
And I was standing out where the pins are.
It's called the pin deck.
And I was standing on that.
It's maple wood, but there's a carpet behind it.
They call it a carpet.
It's steel rods on either end of this.
I don't know what kind of material it is, that's like stapled together in sections and it rolls.
And so when you knock the pins over, the pins go back.
That carries the pins back away from the bowling lane into the wheel, which then gets them up into the machinery so they can reset the pins, right?
Yeah, I know what you're talking about, the bar that comes down.
Right. So behind that and behind where the pins are actually standing up,
the pit, they call it, it goes into that. And I was standing in the pit,
and I had an impact drill in my hand, and I reached up and I grabbed
the plug that was dangling
from the ceiling you know because I was gonna plug it in because I needed to use
the impact drill to take out some some screws or whatever and as soon as as
soon as my hands got closed plugging that thing in I don't remember anything
until my best friend who was working with me was standing over me.
And he's like, hey, are you all right?
I was like, what's going on?
He said, we don't know.
We heard this blood curdling scream and then you fell over.
I was like, OK.
Whoa.
That's strange.
And so the foreman, he's like, hey, you want to sit down for a minute?
I was like, yeah. He goes, all right. Not too long, though's strange. And so the foreman, he's like, hey, you want to sit down for a minute? I was like, yeah.
He goes, all right, not too long, though.
Okay.
Sounds like the electrical art.
That's crazy.
So, yeah, I electrocuted myself.
Dude.
That was fun.
Wow.
No, that was death defined.
And I don't remember it.
I mean, I remember leading up to it, and then I remember Jeff standing over me asking me if I was okay.
Did anybody smell any burned flesh?
No, and there's nothing on my hands that reflected.
Well, it would have gone through your hands and...
Through my feet.
It's the nearest way out through
your feet yeah um no my feet seem to be okay okay well that's good
oh my god yeah you know closest i got to that was having a seizure whoa no
I took an antidepressant and it gave me a seizure
damn
I was just walking and next thing I knew I was waking up with paramedics in my face
whoa
yeah walking from one room to the other getting ready to go shopping
that I remember
but don't remember anything else walking from one room to the other, getting ready to go shopping. That I remember.
But don't remember anything else.
I can imagine that's probably a lot of what death is like.
Yeah.
But I didn't see anybody to say not today to.
Right.
I'm not going.
Not today. Not any day. Not today. I'm not going. Not today.
Not any day.
Not today.
I'm too young.
Got another 50 years in me, darn it.
No, but I have a gnarly scar from that appendix.
Oh, I bet.
From that, yeah. The doctor opened me up the next week in his waiting room with no anesthesia.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, I was screaming bloody murder.
The nurses apparently, according to my mom, the nurses were
like, they couldn't believe what was going on.
But...
Yeah.
Oh my god. I was 10.
Dude, if I was your mom, it would have been hurting
me a doctor.
Hmm. Hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah, there have been some definitely interesting moments.
I see Lift Ticket came up, though.
Hey, LT.
Welcome.
What's up, fam?
How are we doing?
Doing all right.
Doing all right. welcome what's up fam how we doing doing alright I came up because you were talking about
arc flashes and underage drinking
and driving
I've had experiences with both
so you know
I have had experiences with
both but
it's not why I came up
because hanging out with the fam.
My son just got to meet all the kids in the neighborhood
at the end of the cul-de-sac.
And, yeah, it's pretty exciting.
He finally has some kids to play with.
It's just a good overall community.
That's the best thing in the world, man.
It is amazing.
Hanging out with your friends outside in the cul-de-sac
or the neighborhood or whatever, that's awesome.
That's awesome.
I remember I made my kids go outside one day I'm like you guys need to go
outside like why I said just go outside do something right and so I left I went to work
or something I don't know what it was but I got home and my wife showed me a note that Catherine
wrote my daughter wrote it said, Brendan and I are outside,
or daddy made Brendan and I go outside. We're down at the end of the bike path near the tennis
courts. I was like, okay, yeah. That's how it's supposed to be. He loves it. I've been in an
apartment for the last year plus,
and there's no playing with kids. There's no cul-de-sacs or neighbors that are friendly
and invites you to a Friday cul-de-sac party
where all the kids kind of just ride their bikes
and just cone off the area, and all the kids run around,
and adults have their drinks and their smokes,
and it's just a good thing.
I mean, in my younger years, I'd be like, yeah, that sounds dumb.
But in my 40s, I'm like, this is amazing.
Like, this is epic having like a community, you know,
of like cool neighbors that you can shoot the shit with
and all the kids play together
it's just different times but yeah it's enough life's good pouring up some mixtures
for the space cooking little man some chicken nuggets and uh yeah just trying to get all your
meals off you that i can trade my my i have i have i have the powerless army
as you do so it's a that's my one thing right so if i got 20 destroyers or you know low
the numbers and architects fine or even if i got five five five. Okay, cool, but no
I got all of like
The powerless it's like hey who wants to trade with this guy at the park you got the power of those guys
Like I mean I get the evolution in the future, but like
It's also about stacking architect architect you know archetype so
it's like you know i'm not gonna we're not gonna we're not gonna keep going back to that but
you know what i'm saying mikey i do i'm saying i do the cool thing about the powerless one though
is the colors are amazing i love those the the different purples I like those
yeah but the downside is the colors are going to change
I know
yeah no they look sick
but like we said
I don't want Mr. freaking
rain cloudy frowning face
like I want one or two
but I don't want a whole army of them
just pouting about
yeah for sure but I don't want a whole army of them just pouting about.
Yeah. Yeah. For sure. For sure. I mean, you, you brought up the word community again, which was the original topic. And, uh,
it's interesting. You were talking about, you know,
having the adults to talk to, to smoke or drink or whatever, you know,
while the kids are playing and that kind of thing.
It's almost like we turned spaces into that too. You know, if they're not monetized or if they're
not about, you know, being monetized or anything like that, they're just hanging out. Um, it's
certainly, uh, the problem is you're not face to face with people. You're not outdoors. You're not,
you know, sharing the air with each other right we're just but we
are allowed to talk to each other and stuff and that's pretty cool but it is
different I love the fact that your son now can just go out and play with
neighborhood kids you know it because there's so much over scheduling going on
with kids and it started with my kids. You know, I would freak parents out because I would let my kids walk around outside and go do whatever and that kind of stuff.
And they just, for whatever reason, they were freaked out by that.
Like one dad's like, you let your kids walk to school?
And I'm like, yeah.
First of all, it's like two and a half blocks away, right?
It's not that far.
Second of all, they're not the only kids out there.
And third of all, I want them to be able to live and explore in the world without being afraid
and knowing what they need to know to live and explore in the world and, you know, take care of themselves and stuff.
And what that turned into one day, daughter she was she was driving back to college
for her junior year right and she her two best friends from from school they they flew out
from virginia and stayed at our house for a couple of days and then they packed up her car and they went on this road trip from LA back to Virginia and it was it was a very interesting
moment because I mean she'd been in school already for a couple years but for whatever
reason I was standing in the garage as they were pulling out you know and I was just I was thinking
well there she goes and there seemed to be kind of a finality to it.
You know, like I literally remember saying, there she goes.
And it was weird.
It was very weird because at that point,
I had no idea if she was coming back or not.
You know, it's really interesting.
And then, of course, I was jealous as hell of the road trip across the country.
I mean, dude, they went to Death Valley and they went to the Grand Canyon in Vegas.
They went to the Badlands in South Dakota and they went to the Bean in Chicago.
And, you know, they went to the Mothman Museum in West
Virginia right and and just they did such an amazing trip I certainly was
jealous of that for sure but yeah but she she and her fiancee moved back to
Southern California she was working at a hospital for a year and a half in Denver. And then they came back here.
So she comes over every other week or so.
She's like, hey, can I come over?
I'm like, yes.
You know how to get in.
Just come in.
You know?
So that's nice.
And then my son comes home a little over a week.
And he'll be home for the summer before he goes back to school.
So that'll be cool too.
You guys got plans for the summer?
No, man.
Just let it fly?
Yeah.
I know the NHL draft is actually going to be here in L.A. this year,
so I might see if he wants to go to that.
Oh yeah.
His mom and I were talking about it. That'll be an experience, right?
Oh yeah.
It'll be so much fun.
And then my daughter's got tickets to My Chemical Romance at Dodger Stadium this summer.
And it'll be our second time going to see them.
So that'll be fun fun i was a little bit
a little shooken up because the draft was in green bay and it's like an hour and a half from
where i grew up and that would have been amazing to be able to go there but you know so much going
on and it's probably never gonna happen happen again in my lifetime. But,
but yeah,
I'm just glad it was happening.
But yeah,
just imagine it's a special time,
special moments.
Got to enjoy that stuff.
You know,
I would imagine at some point they're going to have the NFL draft in Denver.
They got to,
right?
Well,
you'd think.
Cause my, in my imagination, right right there they're working through every team where they play and stuff right because what's in green bay but the packers
200 000 uh overweight sausage eating drums to put it crudely but yeah no literally there was more people in the town than the population by like
threefold so my my son was out there in green bay playing hockey one summer um at a camp and
and my wife went out there with him um do i still call her my wife i guess that's the easiest way to explain it but anyway um she was
out there with him you know and they they went to lambo and you just walk right in i guess and go
see it and everything and and they were sending me pictures from lambo field and i'm like jealous
of that too i definitely want to see that but that was pretty cool.
Yeah, no, I just, if you're actually like a, like a football fan,
like you just got to go see Lambeau. It's such a,
it's such a crazy experience. Like, you know, I'm biased obviously, but as far as like just being a football fan, like the history and like the,
if you can go to a game even better,
because like the whole town shuts down,
like people will literally sell their spaces in front of their house for
parking spots. And the town's making money off of, you know,
people having to park just because it's such a small little area,
but the whole town shuts down and just when the game's on,
it's the whole area is
quiet like dead quiet and just all you hear is the stadium roars it's it's like crazy crazy but
well and they're all owners too right they they uh yeah i'm an owner yeah not a big deal or anything
no if i remember i don't know how many years ago it was 10 years maybe
or something like that they opened it up again and i seriously thought about buying a share
just to have it you know i didn't but i was too late but um yeah no it's you know you got i got
my share mounted on the wall but it's just it's nothing about like I would never sell it or anything obviously not but it's about
the concept of not having
an owner, a tyrant
an emperor
or a villain
or any one of these core emotions
or architects
so Jerry's
basically
well exactly so Jerry Spones basically yes well
exactly
but hey you know
the Cowboys haven't been good in a while
and they still try and pretend it's America's team
yeah I mean it was that great trade
they got with Minnesota right
when they got six first round picks
or whatever it was for that trade
yeah that was ridiculous.
You end up with the Troy Aikman's of the world.
Yeah.
That'll do it for you.
Well,
lady,
I've kind of dominated this whole discussion here.
You guys are fine.
I'm just listening,
doing my thing here at the house.
It's all good. All right. I agree with you as far as community and reminded me of like the neighbors all plopping into one particular driveway and everybody's watching the kids
run back and forth and run each other over and throw balls at each other and beat each other. Yeah. Good times.
It's the way it should be. For sure. For sure. And it seems like too that,
you know, all the parents of the neighborhood kind of watched out for all the kids anyway.
Exactly. Exactly. And then as everybody gets older, you start looking out for each other.
And then as everybody gets older, you start looking out for each other.
Yes.
I remember my mom going out a couple of times because the lady that lived a few doors down across the street had Alzheimer's.
And she would direct her back into the direction of her house.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what you do.
And you've been in the same neighborhood
for 30 years
whatever
you get to know everybody
you watch everybody's kids grow up
it's good
it's the way it should be
I don't know why this just popped in my head
because it is totally antithetical
of what you were just talking about
what?
a rumble
a rumble a rumble rumble yeah back back
when they had rumbles right um not drive-by shootings and stuff but a rumble one gang fighting
another gang and um so in are you talking sharks versus jets or how far are we going back yeah well
it's that type of thing i was in like grade school
and the junior high that was part of our neighborhood um there was a rumble at the
junior high on a friday night very west side story and we us kids we all went over there
saturday morning to you know to see it and I remember dents in the steel doors of the school and stuff.
I mean, because they had chains and all kinds of stuff like that.
I don't think there were any, yeah, I'm sure there were no guns.
We didn't hear any gunfire or anything like that.
But, yeah, just beating the hell out of each other.
Junior high school school it's crazy
that was 3 30 at the flagpole be there everyone's gonna make funny the next day
and that's why women outlive men yes that and i used to play tag on motorcycles when i was a kid
that too yeah and you know you had to touch the front wheel of your bike to the back wheel of That, and I used to play tag on motorcycles when I was a kid. That too, yeah.
And you know, you had to touch the front wheel of your bike to the back wheel of the other guy's bike, and that's how you tagged it. Oh my God.
Yeah.
Jumping off the roof into the pool, jumping off the fourth balcony of the hotel into the pool.
Yeah, that was not a me thing.
I would never do that.
That's insane. People do do that. That's insane.
People do that stuff.
That's just craziness.
No, you got to steal the crumbies out of people's cars and put them on your bike tires.
How many baseball cards did I ruin putting them on my bike, you know, to make it sound like a motorcycle?
And hopefully they weren't rare ones.
The Babe Ruth rookie card
Just getting
Oh my god
That would be awful
It's just awful
I see Jay's in the room
I actually have a question for you Jay
If you are able to speak
I don't know if you are or not
But good to have you again
And if you ever are able to come up
Please do It's kind of a cultural question Good to have you again. And if you ever are able to come up, please do.
It's kind of a cultural question.
So, anyway.
Tyler, me intrigued.
Right?
Yeah.
That's all I'm going to say unless Jake comes up.
It's fine.
You can just ask me.
Hey, and he's coming up.
Jay.
Everybody doing good?
Yeah, man.
Yeah, I'm in kind of a real mellow room right now you know
it's kind of fun i like it it's awesome yeah i like the music nice and chill oh thanks man
yeah so what was your question before yeah
all right so where are you in the world again uh Taiwan and China. Right, right. You've been to the US too, right?
I lived there for like 20 something years. Okay, okay. So my real question is like the technology
development difference between the two places. Okay. It seems like China is just like the technology development difference between the two places
okay it seems like china is just like leap years ahead of us
uh yeah i mean you know like uh china spends a lot of money on in r&d every year right in certain
industries so you know like uh i remember we had uh or china had electric cars back in the
you know um i think it was the early 2000s right like shuttle buses right because i used to work
for a company a long time ago and uh they sent me over to China for two years. And then I stayed in a hotel for two years.
And there was a shuttle bus that goes from work or from the hotel to work every day, back and forth.
And we were on an electric shuttle bus.
shuttle bus.
So I think
China spends a lot of money
on R&D
and technology.
I think
they're pretty advanced.
Maybe not all the things
are... they might be advanced
but maybe not all the things are
built to last, I guess.
Compared to
the US., right?
Where, you know, U.S., they build things that last longer, right?
But China is, yeah, pretty advanced in technology.
I mean, so is Taiwan, right?
Or so is, I guess, Asia.
Asia, but China, yeah, they're really ahead of the game, I think.
But China, yeah, they're really ahead of the game, I think.
And it seems like they're putting their, for instance, young kids in technology classes,
you know, exposing them to AI or to coding or to whatever early on.
And we don't do that here.
Yeah, I think that's true to some extent.
Well, you've got to understand, right, when China was dirt poor, all we did was basically read a bunch of books and study, right?
People in their spare time, what they do is just they start reading, right?
do is just they start reading right and you know I know a lot of people in China
right that they have regular jobs like just like basic jobs like for instance
like like they work probably work at a SI company right and then you know a
company hires you know like contracts them, let's say, for doing like when people build like manufacturing plants.
Right. They have they need IT things.
Right. And so let's say people pull cable like network cable.
Right. Now, that seems like a pretty decent or regular job.
Right. But the people that are pulling the cable, their education is super, super high. Right. They probably have like the Cisco CCIE certification. Right. And they're pulling network cables. Right. So you have a bunch of people in China or in, you know, certain parts of Asia that have really good like education background and whatnot.
And they're doing like these like regular, not really high paying jobs. Right.
And it's just the demand that, you demand that Asian parents have towards their child,
right? Because when my mom raised me, she wanted me to be, I don't know, three things, right?
She'll settle for, the third place would be a pilot, right? Flying for like an airline, right?
The second one would be like you know, a doctor,
like a lawyer, and the first one would be a doctor. So we have really, Asian parents have
really high expectations for their children, right? And, you know, anytime I got a B,
or like a B plus, you know, I get scolded, right? I get grounded. And, you know, we're always,
they're always trying to, to, to, you know, be, you know, have their children be the top of their
class. Right. And so I think that's, that's kind of where, you know, we, we focus on education and,
and, and, you know, trying to, trying to get a, you know, a good, you know, high paying job is because of our parents expects us to do good in school and stuff like that.
Interesting.
I mean, you know, because you always, certainly with, I'm more familiar with Japanese students over here than I am with anybody else.
And I know the drive that comes from the family is really high.
Yeah, super high.
Right? I think Japanese culture, Chinese culture, and certain other sheep because, you know, I was working like a regular, like at a manufacturing plant, right?
I mean, I was in IT, right?
I had a good position, right?
I was a director of IT.
But, you know, in my mom's point of view, that wasn't good enough.
my mom's point of view, that wasn't good enough.
You know, and, you know, because I think in Asian culture, right,
I remember growing up, I had to learn how to play the piano.
I had to learn, you know, a bunch of things.
And when we have get togethers with friends and family, right,
they would always compare their kids, right?
Oh, my kid is doing this.
He got an A in this.
Or, oh, my kid's going to, you know, Berkeley or whatever,
like a top 10 university and stuff like that.
So they're always competing against each other,
whether it's family or friends, right?
And so I think that's just part of the culture, right?
And it just gets passed down from generation to generation.
And it's really stressful for a kid, right?
Especially for an Asian kid, right?
Because you're expected to do good, right?
And so that's why a lot of people, I mean, I hate to say this, but they think Asian kids are nerds, right?
Right.
Right?
And in Taiwan and China, right?
Like, when you grow up, I mean, you go to school, like, it's completely different, right?
People, you know, kids wake up at like six, five 30, six o'clock,
they get to school at six 30. The first thing that they do is clean the, clean the school,
right? You got people outside, you know, kids on outside on the sidewalk sweeping up the street.
You got, you know, kids on, you know, inside the classroom, like cleaning up the classroom every day. Right. And then, and then, you know, they're in school, they get out at three 30.
They go to like a, like a, you know, like a tutoring, like a institution after.
So by the time they get home, it's, it's already like seven, eight o'clock at night.
Right. And all they're doing is learning this whole time and and you know and so
you know if you do that at a young age right you get you're just used to that right and and and
then you know that's why we you know like a lot of the streets in in taiwan are clean and i mean
even in japan i mean they do that right so right? So it's just, I don't know.
I don't know.
I think growing up as a kid in Taiwan is hard, right?
Because you're up so early, you're home very late every day, right?
But I think that's the best time to, you know, I wish I was a kid.
I wish I could go back to school, right, and do all this stuff, right?
I never got to experience that because, you know, I went to the U.S. when I was three, right?
And the only time I came back to Taiwan or went back to China was when, you know,
during summertime, um, I was back in Taiwan for, for two years when I was 15 to 17 and I went to
an American school and they didn't have this, you know? So, you know, I, I could understand the pain
that, that kids in Taiwan or China, you know, that they go through. But
if I had to go back, I would
probably want to
be in a Chinese
school
because
the way they do things compared to
I guess Western
is completely different.
Yeah.
I mean,
no, it's, I'm trying to decide which, which generation to, to deal with, right?
It's a little different. Like, like if, if I fucked around in school, if I, if I did something
wrong or I got in trouble or something like that, the first thing my parents are going to do is they're going to talk to me.
What did you do? Right. And then it turned into there's no accountability for this anymore. Now
it's like now they're yelling at teachers saying, well, you know, what are you doing to my kid?
This kind of stuff. And so the entitlement has just gotten worse and worse and worse over the years. And I wonder, we're such, everybody in our country seems to be so focused on capitalism, right?
This drive to make the most money and have more toys than anybody else.
And I wonder if that's part of it.
There are definitely lots of people still left in the country that want to help other people and are kind and generous and stuff like that.
But maybe it's just the timeline.
Maybe it's just the news.
Maybe it's just what's being reported all the time.
But it just seems like if, for instance, sports over here.
And now this may be the same kind of thing over there. I don't know, but sports over here used to be fun for kids. Now it's, they've professionalized sports all
the way down to 10, 11, 12 year olds. You know, you're only going to do this sport if you're
going to try to become a pro or try to get a college scholarship or something like that.
You know, it's like, why can't it just be fun like it used to be?
You know, you go play baseball in the summer and football in the fall and basketball in the winter and baseball again.
And, you know, you're just you're out there or in KB, Son of KB's, you know, world, it's, it's hockey, right?
You hang the hockey skates up and then you go play baseball. And, um, it, it just,
everything's so professionalized now. It's like, if, if you're not chasing the dollar,
not chasing wealth, then there's something wrong with you. Yeah. I mean, I, I completely agree.
Right. Because I remember as a kid you know i'm i was very
hyperactive so you know my mom couldn't deal with me so every time after school i would you know i
would go to all these you know i would i played soccer for 15 years right uh i was on the basketball
team at school i was you know um on the football team in high school, right?
And so, you know, like, I just wanted to, you know, my mom was thinking, you know, after my
piano lessons, I do soccer or whatever, baseball, whatever, right? Just to get me to calm down
because I was so active. And, you know, I love sports, you know, and, and I never thought
about being a professional, you know, like, uh, uh, like a soccer player or anything. Right. I,
I think, you know, I was realistic because of my height. I I'm not short, but I'm not tall. Right.
But, you know, being, being, you know, like if you want to do something in sports, you actually have to be somewhat tall, right?
In any sport.
Right.
And I was, I was really realistic.
I was good at soccer.
Right.
I could run really fast and, and, you know, I was able to, you know, do a lot of things.
But I was realistic.
And, you know, being in, you know, like an Asian person.
Right. and you know being in you know like an Asian person right you don't see really much of Asian
people in in like sports right in the U.S. there's some but not it's not like it's basically
dominated by by black people right and so I was really realistic but yeah I love the the you know
sports right and I thought it was fun and i always wanted
to just play sports but i think you know in society right like um if you have people you
know like matthew mcconaughey saying like school's not good or elon musk saying school you know i
mean you could you could make more money if you do, do this.
And, you know, if you have like commercials like that as well, it kind of, you know, right.
It kind of dictates, right.
And people, you know, it's kind of like brainwashing.
Right.
And, and, and then, you know, you have professional sports, like let's say the NBA, like players
can dictate like their terms and, and, and whatnot.
Right. NBA, like players can dictate like their terms and whatnot, right? And so, you know, I think
it's just
how, you know,
society markets, right?
Money is
more important than education.
Right? Yeah.
Yeah.
So, I mean, it's not
really like, I mean, I think it's like that
all over the world, right?
It's just, I think Asia, we do it as well.
But, you know, if we're, you know, like parents, right?
Like we're still like, you know, focused on our kids is education.
Education comes first, right?
And so I think that's the difference
between Western culture and Asian culture, right?
We're still focused on education, right?
You know, like even like five years ago
when students, you know, like they, you know,
let's say they, you know, get in trouble at school.
Well, you know, the teacher is able to hit them with like a ruler on the hand, right?
Like a slap of the ruler, right?
Now it's different, but five years ago it was still like that, right?
And, you know, when people, you know, girls, when they go to school, you know, we in Taiwan, even in public, we have uniforms.
Right. They have to uniforms like the skirt has to be a certain length.
Their hair has to be a certain length. Right.
You can't have makeup. You can't have this. You can't do that.
Right. And so school public schools are still like that
in Taiwan and in China. Right. And, and we're, we're not so, we're still strict on those
types of rules that we had in the past. But as far as like, uh, kids mounting off to teachers
and fighting teachers or hitting teachers, I mean, that's, you don't really hear about that in Taiwan.
Right. So I think
it's just the generation,
what we learn, we pass down to our,
you know, to the next
generation. And
you know, when, you know,
something does happen, we get punished for it.
Right.
Not like the U.S. where it's kind of,
you know, like the western culture is like okay okay
what did they do first right not what did you do first right so yeah yeah i mean i mean i i you
know i mean different cultures you know but i think you know, I'm not against one or the other.
I think there are pros and cons to each, you know, Western and Eastern, right?
Because I think that if I didn't live in the U.S. or I didn't go out of, you know, I went into a different country,
I probably, the way that I'm thinking now is probably, you know um you know i went into a different country i i probably the way the way that i'm
thinking now is probably you know very closed right and not as you know open as compared to
people who who never been in the u.s or lived in you know a western western country before right
so i think there are closing cons right to each to each different type of culture.
Yeah, I certainly agree with that, too.
I was just thinking, too, that culturally, a buddy of mine, he just visited Japan for the first time.
And I've never been.
Everybody gets shocked when they go there, right?
Well, he said he fell in love yeah with japan and
um he can't he can't wait to go back you know and i was thinking okay so is it a is it a place
you know that somebody from here could retire over there and and he said well that you know
that's where you might have issues because it's such a tight-knit cultural and...
I don't know how else to say this, but kind of a racist community that you may not be accepted.
You may not be talked to know you may not be talked to
from people that he's spoken to and i don't know if that's true or not but that you know he was
only there for a little while so all right so so mike i lived in japan for like five years right
and yeah uh i have a lot of friends that are japanese right i still keep in touch with them. Whenever I go to Japan, I meet up with them. All I can say is, on the outside, they're very have a different type of opinion or feeling, right?
But they don't express that, right?
Yeah.
For instance, right, if you go to Japan, you know, if you're in the MRT, people are just for themselves, right?
Like if you see, you know, in you know uh pregnant women or or with women with
already you know small children we'll get up and we'll let them sit right but in japan is kind of
for themselves right you'll see an 80 year old man taking the subway and there's no seats and
no one's getting up for them right but you know i from from my experience being in japan they, they're really friendly on the outside of me.
Like the face value, right? They're very friendly, right?
When I asked them for help, they helped, right?
But you have to kind of, it's kind of a give and take.
You have to speak their language, right?
Because a lot of them, they just want to speak Japanese.
They want to keep it, like you said, kind of isolate.
They're kind of isolated, right? and they're all about their culture right
and so you know um i i can fit in pretty easily i think just because i have an asian face right
and although i don't speak japanese but i can at least understand a little bit and speak a little bit to get by
um but yeah i mean i i love that country right um the people to me people are friendly everything's
clean you don't have to worry about you know uh theft right like i remember going snowboarding
you know all you know and left my snowboard you know and and went inside
to eat uh for you know i was inside for about an hour and a half i didn't lock my snowboard
and then when i came out i was still there right or i left my wallet you know and and and you know
somewhere and you know when i came back i was still there or or you know, when I came back, it was still there. Or, you know, someone handed over to the store
and then, you know, everything was,
even the cash inside, everything was there, right?
So I think it's very safe.
I think, you know, everything's clean.
People are, you know, very respectful.
But, I mean, if you live there for a long time,
you'll kind of see like um
you know what you're saying what what your friend was saying right the kind of the the racist kind
of vibe-ish feeling right um but i don't know i i like i like that place a lot i go there a lot
i bought a house in hokkaido? So I could go snowboarding every year.
Oh, that's right. Yeah, I remember you doing that. Yeah, and saying that.
Yeah, so I love that place, right? Just because it's different. The way they do things is completely different from the rest of the world a little
bit right if you look at remember that movie with tom cruise and he's in japan and he's a samurai
yes right yeah yeah and they're and and they're and he's talking about the way they do things
right what they it's kind of like systematic right like they're kind of like robots they get up they do this every single day they're happy
with their lives right and and yeah i mean i i can see that in their culture there's something else
that that you know when you brought that up the movie i was kind of thinking about that earlier
too and since you brought it up there there's something that i loved about the the samurai aspect of that in the fact that yes they're warriors but they studied and wrote poetry
as well you know and and i remember when the astronauts here in the u.s when they were going
to the moon for the first time because they they're all scientists right there i, they're all tech guys, whatever, in that age, all engineers and stuff like that.
So they made them study poetry and other English stories and things like that, too, so that when they got up there, they could speak and write in a way that was more romantic than than scientific
yeah yeah yeah i agree with that yeah so that's something i've always loved too you know the
the duality of of that which i think is really important um but you, if you're just a soldier, then, you know, there seems to be something
missing as certainly a humanity that's missing, uh, because the humanities are, are, are what
we fight to preserve.
You know, it's, it's theater and the, the poetry and the books and the paintings and
the photography and everything else that that makes life worth living
which is why you want to preserve life right so that you can enjoy those other things
i agree i agree
so i don't know if you if you've seen like um videos at all like you know when when people are crossing the street in japan or
especially kids right
and cars you know their cars let them pass, right?
Because they're on the whatever that...
And they bow to the crosswalk.
And once they get across, they bow, right?
So, I mean, every time I go to Japan, you know, I see that.
It is like, wow, that's like, you know, we don't do that in Taiwan, right? So that's, you know i see that it is like wow that's like you know we don't do that in taiwan right
so that's you know so i also saw a video um somebody was saying this is why this is partly
why the streets are clean in japan right or the sewers that they have koi fish not all sewers okay yeah some right yeah beautify it nobody wants to destroy it right yes
yes that's some not all all right so that's kind of kind of a you know one-off thing so
but you know like um i was there for a while and, you know, let's say they're building a road, okay?
And I remember that after when they paved the street, right, they noticed that one side was a little bit slanted, I guess.
So the road wasn't like straight, right?
It was kind of tilted or a little bit slanted, right?
Whatever you want to call it.
And it was only this one section, probably like 100 feet, right?
Now, in Taiwan or maybe the U.S., they wouldn't, you know,
they would just leave it like that, they wouldn't do anything but they tore that whole part section off and redid it
to make it straight right and so i think that level of you know like, detail is just what, you know, kind of, I don't know, it's on a whole different level, right?
To just like, okay, that street is, part of that road is kind of at a tilt.
They demolished that whole section and redid it to make it straight, right?
I think that's on a different level than than
any other country i don't know i i think if you go there you you would love the the country right
it's gonna be i think it'd be a culture shock just because you see things like why are they
doing it like this why are they doing like that wow and you try to
understand it and you're like wow okay right and i think some parts of taiwan um it's like that too
right like why are people so friendly and then we're actually you know friendly right and you
know like our hearts are you you know, Taiwanese people.
They're really friendly. Right. They're willing to help anybody. Right. Especially a foreigner. Right.
Who doesn't even speak Chinese. Right. You're talking to them in English and they don't know how to speak English, but they're trying to help you.
Right. I think that from from, you know, what I experienced when I first came back to Taiwan, it was like that for me.
People were willing to help. I'm looking at a map and I'm not even asking for help.
And someone would come up and say, hey, they're trying to speak English, broken English. I don't
understand what they're saying, but they're trying to help me right and we're trying to communicate somehow and and you know in the end i said i wanted to go here right i just pointed at this
place i didn't know how to get there and he just walked with me to there right he took me he tried
to talk to me you know and so i think you know taiwan has has a certain vibe that I love.
It's just the people are actually really friendly, right?
And they're willing to help other people, right?
And so I'm waiting for the time that you come either to, you know,
come to Taiwan and visit me or go to Japan together, you know,
and have some fun, man.
I know we're planning about that, but, you know, unfortunately, you know, and, and, and have some fun, man. I know we're planning about that, but you know, unfortunately, you know,
Ape Fest is in Vegas this year, you know, but maybe you could come after,
I don't know.
Well, have some fun.
That's the beauty of, that's the beauty of Ape Fest being in Vegas.
I can drive or take a 45 minute flight. It's not going to cost me anything to get there, you know the beauty of that's the beauty of uh ape fest being in vegas i can drive or take a 45
minute flight it's not gonna cost me anything to get there you know yeah but you know like you
could get a cheap ticket okay mike i know it's a like a 13 hour 11 hour flight right i mean you
could get a cheap ticket and and you know once you're here i'll take care of you i have so many places that you
can stay you know it doesn't even matter trust me i have not forgotten and i and like i said
the fact that this is going to be so inexpensive this year for me um i'm going to save my money
to get to japan because i have to go okay yeah so i mean i remember you know you ddish and i were talking about japan right
i'm already planning my my trip to japan so you know uh when when is ape fest in in uh october
right yeah october 24th is the official day okay and it's usually for three days, right? Four days. Yeah, yeah. Usually it's four days or so.
Yeah, so we could plan something for December because I'm already planning something for December.
Oh, when in December are you planning?
Anytime, you know.
Okay.
So, yeah. I'm just planning like where to go right in Japan.
Just planning like where to go right in Japan.
I'm thinking whether I should go to Osaka, Tokyo, or even going to Hokkaido maybe.
I don't know.
So I'm only like a couple hours away from Japan, so I could go there anytime.
But I'm planning something with the you know in Japan seeing their schedule and
it's sometime in December I'm not too sure you know which weeks but you know
it's definitely in December so okay okay that's good to know that's that's good
to know yeah I like and if you could come that'd be great we could meet
somewhere in Japan and then I'll take care of you.
I love it.
I love it.
And, yeah, especially after my friend got back and, you know,
just the way he talked about it.
And I wanted to go anyway, but after hearing that, too,
just I really want to go see it.
I want to experience it for sure.
Oh, yeah, well, I'll take you on a good adventure, Mike.
I'll take you to, you know, if we go to Osaka, we could go to Nara, right?
That's where all the deer are.
You know, when you give deer food, they'll bow to you, you know?
It's just an insane, you know, there's a bunch of places over there that you'll like you know so you
know I love it love it love it oh sorry top hat I was just kind of lost in the
music in the discussion I'm gonna bring you oh man well thanks for that
perspective G I really appreciate it I you know I have seen some things you
know pictures videos and stuff like that with with technology and things going on in China.
And and I just wondered how far ahead they were on a real level, you know, not some political talk or anything like that.
So I appreciate that a lot.
Not a problem.
Not a problem.
And it's always great having you here too so
always thank you very much it's it's very nice to be here i love the vibes right so i don't i don't
really care how many people are in the space right i love this vibe right it's really relaxed you have
great music right so awesome thank you awesome. Thank you, Mike.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Lady, I'm having trouble getting Top Hat up.
It's telling me there's an error adding him.
Maybe you can add him.
I don't know.
Maybe she's cooking pizza for her son.
She does that a lot.
I'm actually making sloppy joes and I think I got them.
Yeah, I got them.
I was trying to keep that man down.
Well, that's who I am.
Yeah.
Anybody who's more man than I am,
I don't want to hear.
I was listening to Jay talking and i tell you what jay you fucking know where i am i'm just down here in the philippines man i'm a two-hour flight away from you and i heard you say free
accommodation free accommodation of food i'm gonna come over and see you bro that's 100
no we like jay we like jay jay's holding a lot of crowds over there lazy apes and hell mike i can't
wait to see that transformation when that art transformed bro yeah i know man i you know i
mean we've been waiting a long time and it's it's gonna be really cool when it happens
i tell you what mike because i don't really fully understand it you didn't mention it to me in a
message yesterday so with the little emails there's two there's two more layers of them
kind of like revealing transforming into something different they're evolving evolving right yeah
so this is the base right this is going to be your your base emotion is what it is
but everything around it may change well that doesn't work for me mike because my
base emotion i've only got one and that's it no no it sounds good do tell more well i'll let lady
tell you or or lift or smith or somebody um i like lady's voice i like lady's voice lady do tell
i've been talking a lot so what did you need to know
no i was talking to mike yesterday we were talking about the yet doing a meal stuff and
how the base ones that we currently are holding right now uh will change over a couple of or
emerge as they reveal over a couple of other layers or something like that how does that
actually work the first layer like he said is the 24 base emotions
um so there are large chunks of the same ones if you minted a certain stretch then you're of
course going to have the same nft coming up um after a couple of days after a couple of days
of people being able to trade to get try to get all 24 or however many they want or whatever they want, then it will push the button and the next phase of the layering will go through.
More details will come out.
And then...
Like hats are going to change and stuff like that.
Backgrounds are going to change.
Everything's going to change except for the facial expression and the basic outline.
So things are going to be emerging as we go and then the final stage will probably be a couple
days after that so we're going 24 to 48 hours or 48 to 72 hours something like that per layer
yeah so the hats will change so no more heads, or maybe some cone heads will stay. They will be keeping the cone hats, unless they have a hat trait, I would guess, or a hat trait.
I thought I saw some hat traits.
I want to see a top hat, Mike.
They did say that the basic outline would remain, which makes me think that the hat would remain,
because it is part of the basic outline.
Maybe they can work it into it or something. I don't know.
I don't have the skinny on that.
Yeah, I don't know either. I don't know either. It's fun and interesting the fact that this is a three-part reveal
as opposed to just everything all at once.
Yeah, true, Mike.
I don't think I've ever heard of that before.
A three-part reveal.
Yeah, I don't think it's been done before.
That's because we're different.
Built different.
So many ways.
We're all built different.
We're all unique, lady.
That's right.
I like it because it's like when you have that first reveal on a regular reveal,
it's there, and then it's gone.
And it's like, okay.
If anybody wants more,
I've got to, Lucifer sent me to
a giveaway on the Irish Coffee Show
this weekend, and I would like to see them
go to holders who will
hold them and not floor them.
I think the idea was for us to get
and enlarge the community, wasn't it?
Although, you know, they're yours to do with as you wish, of course,
for your show.
These are additional ones. He's given me two to raffle off on the show.
Nice.
So he sent me two more. So I minted one. He sent me two anyway.
And then he sent me two more and he says, give these away on your show.
So we do know how to run giveaways on our show.
We make sure that they're not going to go to any shitbags that's just in the room just for a giveaway.
And they'll just floor them.
We'll make sure they go to the proper people that will cherish them.
And that's Sunday night, right?
Or Sunday night for people.
I'll look for the link.
I'll throw it up there in your jumbotron.
Yeah, yeah.
Do that.
Do that.
Because everybody in the room, if you don't know,
they really do have a fun show and they do know how to give things away.
It's really fun.
It's usually a contest and it's great.
Yeah, simple contest.
Make it fun.
Rock, paper, scissors type thing.
Madman is the expert at that.
And we'll probably do it that way.
We'll just get four people up on stage.
I'm not a big proponent mike of doing the old x space fucking um sorry not x space but the x picker thing where you are or post an x and say yeah you know tag three people follow all this
shit because you just get a room full of people that are there not listening to what's being said
or spoken about projects they just want that free giveaway to florida and get a few bucks well that's how i am that's how i am as well but let's not tell anybody else
no no no of course not
yeah let me look for the post mike i'll throw it up there yeah yeah please do please do always
happy to support, for sure.
Oh, man.
This has been great.
I mean, that's what I love about this space.
There's just topics after topics after topics. Even if there's one that we start with, it might end up being somewhere else.
Go somewhere else.
It's really cool.
It all has to do with being curious, asking questions.
If anything, anybody down there, anybody on stage, whatever,
if you have a question about anything, just ask.
Or just enjoy the music, you know.
That's what we're here for.
It's happy hour.
I've had one IP.
I think I might get another one because it's happy hour. It've had one IPA. I think I might get another one because it's happy hour.
It's five o'clock.
Let's not talk about IP, Mike.
Let's not talk about IP unless it's in a glass and it's liquid format.
You know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, IPA, man.
IPA.
I'm talking about IP.
Yeah.
Yeah, I saw that come out.
It's going to be. Obviously, anything can be said. yeah yeah I saw all of that come out it's gonna be obviously
anything can be said
from either side
until a court gets involved
and then
just let the legal people deal with it
and then you don't know right because discovery
of all kinds of things happened and stuff
and it's it's like a trial, right?
The prosecution's always winning.
And then the defense gets up and presents their case.
And then it's like, okay, well.
Yeah, you know what?
I used to love watching, Mike.
I used to love watching that TV show.
What was her name that was in it?
Oh, it was called The Good Wife.
She just started off doing...
She got a low job in a fucking firm.
She was thrown in all these court cases.
She started to do extremely well.
I don't know if you've seen that show.
It came out a few years ago.
A bunch of seasons of it.
I forget the name of the main actress,
but she was really good in it.
I'm sure she won awards for it.
Oh, yeah.
She came from ER, and I can't remember what
her name is.
She was
the main nurse in ER.
Julianna Margulies.
That's her. Yeah, she's been in a lot
of stuff.
She's great.
That's why uh corporate courtroom dramas and police procedurals and stuff like that are compelling
on television to watch you know it's it's it's got a structure that they definitely stick with and
they um usually there might be a mystery involved or there might be obviously there's a hero's journey
that's in there too you know that they uh they're doing well to start with and then all of a sudden
you think they're going to lose or there's no way out and then they end up winning
um yeah that's good that reminds me when my son was like i don't know five or six years old
it's funny uh we were watching some movies and I know one of them was Willow,
which I've always loved.
And I introduced my kids to that one.
And I forgot the one we watched before that.
But we're watching, I think we were watching Willow second or whatever.
And my son turns to me and he goes, this is just like the other movie.
And I said, wait a minute.
This is like a fantasy.
That other movie wasn't a fantasy.
What are you talking about?
He goes, well, the good guy's doing okay now,
and then he's going to be in trouble,
and the bad guy's going to be winning,
but in the end, the good guy's going to win.
It's just like the other movie.
I just thought, oh my God,
my six-year-old knows story structure
better than most people in the world.
Yeah, well, that's because most plots are the exact same.
Well, that's story structure plots are the exact same you know well that's that's yeah and it's only because i read this i was reading this uh thing one time mike because i was thinking about it was way back i was thinking about writing a
screenplay or something right yep and i wanted to do it about a historical event that took place
to change the course of the republic of ireland at the time and the thing is i was i was reading
all these books and studying all this stuff and then it said to me there are only only a certain number of uh plots
type thing like the framework for plots you know uh and they were very limited i was thinking they
were like 20 maybe or something like that um and uh they said you can't you won't be able to change
anything from this this is you know you have to have your nemesis your your good person your dis and the plot normally involves revenge or or whatever you know and um uh so it's kind
of interesting yeah so it's a lot of the likes of what you were just saying there when you
well i mean that goes all the way back to the greeks you know storytelling yeah look at that
weed geez who's that weed g who's weed god is that that Tricky Butter down there masquerading again? What?
Tricky Butter, man. We were
in Nifty World space there, Sid
Space, and some people
popped in and it was like, I said, who's
that weed Jesus or weed whoever the fuck?
Weed God now. And then it came out
and he started talking and it was Tricky Butter's voice.
It was Tricky Butter behind it. And then it was
another one popped in and it was Tricky Butter
behind that as well. I don't know how he's doing it.
There he is.
There he is.
Look at him.
He's masquerading with everybody.
He's tricky.
That's how he does it.
He's very tricky.
You've got to watch him, man.
Oh, he fell off the stage.
He fell off the stage.
I don't know.
Still listen to speakers to me.
It's Tricky Buddha from Defy Space Donkeys.
Powered by Weed On Salon.
Get yourself a little lot of weed.
How are you doing that weed teases or whatever?
How are you doing that, Tricky?
How are you doing that, man?
You're on that weed.
I know that's not your account, 157,000 followers.
What's going on, man?
How are you doing that?
I've been...
So my new sponsor is The Weed Token,
and they have a bunch of Twitter assets.
Basically, if you're going to be coming into Twitter and you want to advertise Weed, it's this network.
This is the network.
This is Senor Weed Jesus in the room.
Yes.
The Weed Network.
I love it.
Weed guy.
Okay.
So I –
This isn't even – yeah, this is the small account actually.
Wow.
Yeah, let me get the other one.
Well, okay.
All right.
Where's Neverrest?
He needs to get up here and talk about weed.
Definitely.
Definitely.
I have at least one NFT that I think would be fantastic on a package of weed.
Yeah?
And I have no idea how to go about doing that.
We could definitely do that.
I know all the distributors and all that.
Yeah, I could take that all the way.
You just got to tell me what it is and what you want to put in the bag.
Oh, wow. I guess I need to learn more about weed then i grew for like a decade and i made 120 different breeds i when i actually when i graduated from college the first thing i did was i designed
an led grow light i figured if nasa can grow food and space i can grow weed in my closet
so i designed like six different led lights and i sold them at a local hydroponic store.
I had it manufactured in Guangdong and then shipped over and sold them.
Okay, so I have a question because I'm not an engineer of any kind.
So I have a question about that.
LED, right?
Is that good?
How do I ask this? is there enough heat generation you don't need heat to
grow plants in general and actually heat is usually the problem with a lot of grow ops
so led is kind of good because it solves that issue um you end up cranking up the wattage a
lot when you end up going with led though um but if you were to use the same amount of power to run LEDs as you would run high pressure sodium,
it would have a significantly less heat
and way more active usable light
to generate photosynthesis, both A and B.
Awesome.
Like 660 to 630 to 660 for red nanometers, right for red spectrum
So you get like a two or three of the different reds
I get I want a little bit of orange to help with oil production
I would put a one in the veg plants. I would give them a light that had a single
Infrared so you wouldn't see it, but it would create a tiny amount of heat right in the
center of the of the plant um and then it was white balanced and full spectrum too so by the end
but um yeah so you got you got blue in there like 520 and then a little 750 would be like your
ultraviolet you know the the science of all that is just fascinating to me.
And I mean, obviously my dad, my dad was a farmer.
He, he, as a kid, he grew up on a farm.
And in fact, he, he retired to the farm that he grew up on with my mom.
And, and, um, you know, just the, the, the amount of knowledge, the technical
knowledge that you have to have,
the scientific knowledge that you have to have
just by doing it, right,
is pretty fascinating.
Yeah.
But you ever do something and like,
because it's easy,
it just seems like you've already done it before.
Yes.
Well, you have like so much genetic knowledge that's inside of you that you just don't know how to access for the most part, but you still are accessing it sometimes when you're not even aware.
But if you actually know how to access that information, there's so much fucking information there.
We were all confused for a long time about some of these glass things that my grandpa made.
He died when he was 35.
And so we didn't really grow up with him.
And they had a bunch of glass and things that he had made.
Because back then, chemists were also glassblowers, right?
They would have to make their own beakers and shit.
It was kind of cool.
But crazy also, when you think about that.
To be a chemist and also a glassblower is really stupid.
But anyway, so he had all
these cool like pieces of glass and they had no idea what they were I started
like stumbling across this shit and I go and I look at all the old glass and I
just I knew what all of it was like this is a distillation tube this is like it was like really insane
dude I had it for years never knew what it was like it's got a weird thing on
one side and weird thing on the other side it's just big clear tube and it's
got it was just it was funny to look at them all and after especially after
growing and making my own extracts and stuff like that and I was really into
chemistry too when I was younger so I was like like, yeah, it's a distillation too.
My mom was a science teacher.
I don't know why she couldn't figure that out.
I mean, she didn't do like chemistry.
She was an earth and space science teacher
for like seventh grade.
So I guess it's a little bit different, but still.
Well, I kind of liken that to when I was in college,
my part-time job, I was selling and servicing computers as a job.
And, you know, years later, after I was married and stuff, and my wife, she got her first iPad.
And she walked in the house.
Now, she's a computer programmer, right?
And she manages a bunch of people now.
But that was her job, was programming and stuff like that.
But she walked in the house
and she handed me the iPad and she goes, hook me up to the internet. I'm like, okay,
I will do that for you. Cause it just wasn't in her purview, right? That's not something that
she had to deal with on a daily basis. Now I can't program anything, but you know, I can, I can at least
do a serviceable job of, of helping your computer and your internet stuff, or I used to be able
to. So yeah, that doesn't surprise me that your mom was teaching it because that's her
focus, you know, as opposed to doing it. Yeah. She was focused on the planets and like
plants, you know, she wasn't playing with
chemicals and there was no reason to do a distillation in a classroom with seventh
with seventh graders that would be really hazardous no unless you want to have some fun
yeah yeah you don't you don't give uh any fire to a set to a seventh grader
of course ironically i did convince my mom
to let me buy a bunch of fireworks
and I took orders
and sold $600 worth of fireworks
to my classmates.
And I had a buy one get one free coupon
so I made bank and had a whole bunch of extra fireworks.
Whenever there was like double orders
or redundancies, I used the buy one get one free
to like fill the other order
and then pocket that money.
So I made like, I think i ended up making like i had like 400 dollars cash and the rest of the fireworks that's awesome i love it
for a seventh grader back then that was really good pay dude that's great
yeah i was like dude i made bank in seventh grade it was i went to lager's run middle so it was like
i grew up poor and like had to be creative right and then i went to middle school in boca raton
and everyone was like wealthy like their lunch money was like 20 bucks 25 bucks i was like i
got seven dollars for the week what the fuck you know so i would like sell candy i would like fix
toys i used to play golden eye and charge them $10 to beat Goldeneye on the hardest setting and run through it.
So it could unlock the two columns of cheat codes in the back.
I made another $300 just off of Goldeneye.
I made so much money off those kids.
It was great.
That's amazing.
That's amazing.
So I just weird my boy scout uniform and just go around
the block after the fundraiser and just do my own fundraiser so creative so
creative I love it
Here's the other account
Intelligence donor
440,000 followers
Jeez
I have a
If you include all the followers from all my 10 accounts
That I have control over it's 1.5
I had a client
At one point she was
I think she was doing
I don't know Customer relations relations, marketing kind of thing, something like that, when we got legal here in California.
Not just medically, but overall.
And it was kind of a startup, actually, but she was involved in it.
She was making really good money at that point.
It just seems like a definite growth industry for sure.
Yeah.
Intelligent Stoner actually opened up his own dispensary and built it all out and then sold it to larger companies.
Well, I went to one pop-up event here in LA a couple of years ago.
Well, a year and a half ago, maybe.
Something like that. And it was
at Borden stone, which is in basically Koreatown in LA. And it's a weed shop. And, and it was in
the parking lot, you know, the pop-up event and stuff. And I'm standing there, I'm talking to
somebody and this kid walks up who apparently worked there. He's like, well, you guys look
like the only people here that don't have a white bag in your hand. And I'm like, well, yeah. And he goes, here you go, and handed me a bag of weed.
I'm like, this is great.
I mean, I can't smoke it, but thank you.
I really appreciate the gift.
Yeah, I think there were edibles in there, too.
Something like that.
It sat in my house for a while.
When I went to Zao Chella, which was at Art Basel this last December I had 26 sponsors
but two-thirds of them were weed related sponsors I had three grand worth of edibles to hand out
and also I had Cheech and Chong's My Homies in Dreamland as a sponsor it was fucking epic like
legacy shit right there like if I don't I mean i don't know who i get that next like
stoop dog there's not really a whole lot of people left to that are like more higher ranked than than
cheech and chong you know no they're the ogs man yeah yeah i literally that was the first movie i
watched when i got high like i was like got hides them the first time yeah yeah. Up in smoke. Up in smoke.
Oh, man.
Dave's not here.
Anyway.
Yeah.
OGs for sure.
For sure.
Well, welcome up, man.
I appreciate you being up here.
You know, it's just we're hanging out.
It's happy hour, man.
That's what this is.
This space is happy hour.
We don't need to focus on anything in particular.
We go tons of different subjects.
You brought one that was very interesting, so I appreciate that.
Yeah, no problem. If you're into Xich and Chong, my Friday space is going to have
an interview with the founders, not the founders, but the people who run
the project, Lauren and Uncle Pablo. I know Uncle Pablo will definitely
be there. Maybe Lauren as well. They're both pretty cool. I know Uncle Pablo will definitely be there. It might be Lauren as well.
They're both pretty cool.
I met them at NFT NYC last year.
Oh, nice.
Yeah, I do like those guys a lot.
420 Eastern Standard.
I'll be live everywhere.
Okay, so that's Friday, 420 Eastern.
So I'll be at work, but I'll turn it on.
I won't be able to catch all of it.
It's a short space and it's recorded.
And we do video and we share screens and do like a chart,
some TA and look at some news and stuff like that.
So we talk AI and WE and Web3.
It's a lot of fun.
They've been really good spaces.
And we had a technical glitch last week.
So we only had like 1,500 people. but the week before we had 3500 live because we're on i'm so sorry
every we're on every platform now we're on youtube facebook um i was on twitch and then x as well
i think the biggest space that I had was 5,500,
and that was like two years ago, two and a half years ago.
That's pretty good.
That's massive.
If you didn't bought it, that's massive.
Yeah, no, I mean, as far as I know, we didn't.
But go ahead, Top Hat.
Mike, I just got to pop into Bedtime Creation Space.
I will be back yeah no worries no worries
cheers you pop everywhere it's your job
oh yeah man i i uh before i got the current job that i have, I did partake in some edibles every once in a while.
And I can do that.
I can't smoke anything, but edibles were okay.
But now I can't even do that.
I've got an edible collab right now with the Green Hill Collective.
We're making some green pills with bubble gum.
Nice.
We use bubble gum for homegrown creations.
And then we're also doing a special K-glass collaboration.
And I have another edible collab with IRL goodies.
And they make fudge for the pharmacy phantoms, the pigeons, I think.
They made me some fudge around, like big blocks of spudge and pretzel sticks dipped in infused chocolate
with like sprinkles on it and stuff.
That's pretty dope.
They're donkey sticks.
That's actually not what they said they were, but it rhymes with that.
Nice.
Nice.
I got little ones that are like 15 milligrams and like normal like rods.
And those are like 15 milligrams and like normal like rods
75 milligrams
full of vegetables right now I think I might have a photo of it
I took a photo of them on top of my skateboards that I made with the Prime Made Four Club
it was one of my second sponsors basically going into the event,
and gave me six skate decks that are on-chain.
They have an NFC chip in them,
and you can make four stolen,
or scan the chip and verify which one's yours.
Could I have a goof?
There might be two artists at the club that also did the boards.
Really awesome. I have one of them with some puzzle sticks on the front. There might be two artists at the club that also did boards.
I have one of those. Interesting.
Some pretzel sticks on the front.
It looks like the donkey is needing that.
I'm trying to find them.
Awesome.
You mentioned AI earlier.
you guys talk about that too
You guys talk about that too.
this
the project
most of the people in the room
are from
the project that just minted the emails
that's an AI agent
as well
and heavily
leaning toward the emotional
side of it too so it gets to know you as a person and stuff like that.
So it's pretty interesting.
They just minted a couple of days ago.
What were they missing for?
Well, it was a Dutch auction.
So it started at 0.19 and went all the way down.
And I missed the end of it.
So I don't know if it got to zero or not, but it might and if you minted early you got your money refunded so i think it was going to
be a zero mint anyway no matter what but crazy yeah four price is what 0.3 0.4 or 0.03 or 0.04
or something like that at this point um and it's a three-layer reveal. So only the base layer has been revealed right now.
And then anywhere from 24 to 72 hours later,
they're going to reveal the second layer,
which adds more traits to it.
And then after that, the third layer adds even more traits.
And so they will change in ways we don't know yet that's cool yeah it's kind of fun
hasn't been done before as far as we know up top you can see um
the three different decks and then one eating some edibles
let me take a look
oh yeah Let me take a look. Oh, yeah.
Very nice.
Yeah, there were six decks.
Two are kind of like rainbow, and then the other ones were all different colors.
Like yellow, blue, red, green.
Yeah, those are cool.
I really like them.
They really impressed me, honestly.
My buddy Fab made a caricature of my PFP.
So it's like a really goofy looking donkey.
It's really fun.
And then the ape is
a primate's board club.
Right.
That's pretty accurate.
But they are both caricatures
but mine is just extra
comical.
They've got to give me a hard time.
That's fun.
That's fun. That's fun.
All right, cool.
Now I can send you this one.
But I can't.
This is like...
Yeah, I might...
I might send you over a picture of that nft i was thinking about
just to see for packaging you know yeah absolutely i mean i know a couple people who could do that
um right now if you want to ship them all over the United States, then technically we can do THCA, which classifies as a hemp product.
It's just two-week early weed is basically what it is.
So it's missing some terps and the high CBD, CBN, CBG that you would have with a more ripe crop.
But because of that, there's no THC.
There's all THCA, so it still has to be heated to be activated.
So you just multiply that by like
87.8 or something like that and then that's how much THC you're actually getting out of it
but um yeah it's very very similar in a lot of respects if you're if you're not a medical
patient it doesn't really matter so you can get a bunch of different types of strains you can still
get some good blood that way but if if you're a medical patient, I recommend getting something more ripe with CBD, CBG,
CDN.
But yeah.
Check out one off the top.
That was my favorite one.
It just looked pretty.
It's more like a rainbow one instead of like the other one I posted.
It kind of has like a fade, which looks like you're wearing the glasses that the donkey
is wearing and looking at the board.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's like it fades from one color to the other side.
Yeah, this is great.
I love this one.
Yeah, my favorite.
Yeah, the colors are so nice, too.
I mean, it's just I just love it.
Yeah.
They're like $120 and then it's like $15, $20 for shipping right now.
And there's only two or three left
I think but I took that immediately. I was like this one's mine
For sure because he said we're gonna give you five of them
So I was like I calculated everything for five and there was six left
But I'm gonna get when they actually showed up there were six and I was just like he maybe said we want to
when they actually showed up, they were six, and I was just like,
oh, he babysat when he wanted to, yes.
I just take my pick.
It was a little bit tough,
because there were definitely, like,
three or four that were really cool
that were, like, my style, but
yeah, that was...
Yeah.
It was so cool with all the
different merch. My table
at Zaocello, I got a lot of compliments
on the table, because it was like
everyone had their project, but I was the only
one that had like, you know, 30 sponsors.
it was like not, it was
like just a display of all
this different merch, like crazy.
Like imagine like, you know, $500
of merch from 26
different places, right?
On like two little tables.
So it was just like crazy.
And two-thirds of it was weed related.
And then everybody who showed up also got like a cookie or some infused fudge or both.
Including the manager.
The manager came up and I asked if he burned.
And he was like, yeah.
And I was like, I could tell he was cool.
So I like gave him a cookie.
And then I gave him some fudge and then I
just walked up and handed him a whole box and he took care of me for like
tequila and water for the rest of the night perfectly perfect that's a good trade
yeah it's a really good trade I'm just like I told my brother like watch this
this guy's face just lit up when i
handed him the fudge i was like ah just lock that in everyone's like this water's six bucks i'm like
you had to pay yep yep definitely worth it definitely worth it miami drinks are expensive
it's like 20 a drink before tip you know what i mean like no joke it's insane everything's everything's gotten
like that it's just i was selling five dollar joints i could have sold them for 15.
that's why you were so popular it was only five bucks yeah it was yeah but that's the difference
though right it's like if you had the experience of you know buying a 15 joint which is just like
a fair price over there um or versus you've got a five dollar the best of you know buying a $15 joint which is just like a fair price over there or versus you got a final hour the best start you've ever
had yeah dude I did see tricky it gave me the best to what I ever had for you
know that's a different experience right everyone who's meets me IRL has like a
story behind it and it's always I don't remember the next day or and it's always you gave me a cookie and I don't remember
the next day or something it's always something
it's great
the biggest people in this space
I've given cookies to
and some of them don't even like they don't say they
smoke or they don't smoke but like
it's a recorded space
I'm not going to say any names but
it was just very amusing to see
some of these people eat it like a week.
Yeah, I'm recording this space.
Sorry about that.
Yeah, I'm going to show you this.
This is my table so you can check it out.
So much more shit on it.
I even took up the back wall behind me.
But it was good.
It's loading up.
It's a video,
so you can actually hear
a little bit of nonsense going on,
but it's not like performance.
We had two stages.
We took over from like 4 p.m.
until 2 a.m.
There was a line of like 50 people
out the door for like two hours,
three hours at the end of the night.
Wow.
Maybe four.
It was really intense so the the profile
never rests down there in the audience um he made rolling trays based on the rolling trays based on
the crypt ip that he has um yeah he made some rolling trays and and sold them to a few people and stuff like that.
Yeah, I had some rolling trays.
I think I probably still have one,
but all the rest of them have been distributed.
My buddy
OutThereArt, who
was running the Fun Apes
thing, now he's rocking a spunky right now.
I don't know if you know OutThereArt.
I might. I might. So he made that merch rocking like a spunky right now i don't know if you know out there art i might i might
yeah he so he made that merch back when i was he used to spray paint and paint like
really cool pictures and while he was doing that i would host like the show
and talk with another guy so because he had a mask on and like couldn't really talk so
i would add like commentary and keep the space going while he was painting
and i won like three of those paintings out of like the nine shows that i did with and like couldn't really talk. So I would add like commentary and keep the space going while he was painting.
And I won like three of those paintings out of like the nine shows
that I did with the others.
It was like, I got that I'm winning.
But it was like, it was a fair draw
and there was just not many people
in the room at the time.
But he made koozies
and like all kinds of cool shit.
He still does that.
Like a little, like,
I think he's doing glasses right now
and a couple other things.
But yeah, he's cool. right now and a couple other things
So that's someone I've known in the space for like three almost four years
Yeah, check out up top there. Yeah, so I yeah, I was watching the video man. That's that's quite the setup
Pretty awesome. I had a couple sponsors that bailed last minute and I kind of fucked me like financially but it was really fun and really cool also I didn't
make any money at it but I did have a lot of fun and like so you know secure
some good holders and partnerships and stuff like that it was it was definitely
worth it but well it didn't cost you reading this album because one backs out
last minute you're stuck with the bill oh yeah yeah yeah yeah of
course because you were counting on that right to to make everything even at
least yeah it was yeah that was gonna pay not only pay for the rest of the bill
but also actually pay me to cook gotcha I just liked it a lot of work and didn't
get any money for it well I mean
hopefully it turns into something you know that keeps coming well that's that
and because everyone that saw me had like a story right and I did get like a
maybe a half dozen followers from that as well or holders rather so I did you
know make progress but it was just kind of frustrating in the moment.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I was like trying to just really trying hard to make that not ruin the event for me.
You know what I mean?
It's like, this is so expensive.
But we had an amazing like mansion that I had echoed.
So like my intro like was just ridiculous in this house.
I kept on like walking around just doing it
because it sounds like i come in with like two or three profiles and like do that echo that's the
house just sounded like that it had a pool table in the dining room a huge kitchen yeah a giant
living room like that was the two-story like ceiling pool and it was like right on the the
main road that goes over to the beach so you
could like walk to the beach just walk over the bridge and there's the beach
very nice it was crazy definitely got to do more stuff like that I brought in like
130 different communities for that thing like it was like 100 different artists 17 musicians um picked yeah and then 50 i think
it was like 56 uh different nft projects and coin projects in the end that also came i was like don't
do your own thing let's group together and i just like we started eight months beforehand so
before anybody had any idea what was going on, we had planned half of it,
you know?
Well,
that's the,
that's the beauty of the collaboration in the space.
You know,
if you can,
if you can find it and get it,
it's,
it's so much better.
So much better.
Makes,
makes the work easier.
It makes it more fun.
You're building communities,
you know,
cross communication or cross pollination stuff
like that it's just so much better yeah i'm doing it with a team of 20 people or 30 people
it's completely different than doing it by yourself it would be a buddy you know what i mean
yeah yeah my wife like this is your thing I'm not gonna burn myself out for it yeah I
cooked the whole time dude I shut up a room I've shut up a mansion full of
DG's like 35 DG's in the pecking in the living room I put up I put up two bowls
of nachos one normal and one Korean barbecue nachos and the whole room just
went silent I was like is everything okay I like literally came out of the
kitchen to the living room.
I was like, is everything all right in here?
And everyone's just like got three nachos in their mouth.
Licking the bowl clean on those Korean barbecue nachos.
I was like, would you want the regular or Korean barbecue?
And they all said regular.
And I go, well, you're wrong.
I'll make both.
Love it. Love it.
Love it.
Do you want an NFT MRC?
Not me.
I got to save up all my time
so I can take it off for Vegas
and then Japan. Got to figure out how to get over
to japan to see jay that's awesome yeah so you got a place to stay there or you're just gonna
like go get a hotel and like go with with them i mean not people don't usually have huge houses
in japan unless they're like loaded loaded so i would't have a guest room, but I don't know.
I, you know, I haven't planned that far in advance yet, but Jay down there, he knows Japan,
has a place in Japan and stuff. So he said, we're going to hang out.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
That's one place I haven't. And another great aspect of the space you know you get to meet
people from all over the world and the more you hang out the more you get to know each other and
stuff like that too so it's really fun yeah when you see people in like irl it just really kind of
like solidifies a bond too like if you already know them well online even you've been talking
in spaces for a minute you you get that face-to-face interaction and it's just like you're friends forever yeah it really is like that i mean yeah
you're right it it's like you've known each other forever when you see each other and then all of
a sudden it's like all right well we're just hanging out again only this time it's physical
like the the founder of typical tigers and used to be the co-founder of The Crypt, he and I were roomies in Lisbon back in October.
I got an Airbnb and asked him if he wanted to go over there.
And so he did.
And we had the Airbnb for five days.
And it was great.
And I'd only met him online.
He's from Sweden.
But no issues, no trouble, nothing at all.
It's like we'd been roommates for a long time.
It was great.
I still got to do 8th Denver, and I want to organize more vacations for my club, too.
I think I'm going to release
another version of my membership that's
specific for events.
And then like basically
I can book out some like ski
vacations and some cruises
and all this.
Do you mind me asking
where you're located? Orlando, Florida.
Okay. Like right next to
Full Sail, between Full Sail and
University of Central Florida.
Man, I remember one of my favorite
things in the middle of the night.
Well, not necessarily the middle of the night,
what is it?
What's the neighborhood?
I want to say Winter
Park, but
very wealthy neighborhood, wherever it was.
Yeah, Winter Park.
Yeah.
I'm in Winter Park.
I'm in the far east side, which is technically like unincorporated Seminole County.
So I don't have an HOA.
And I'm like right on the border.
And technically, I live in Winter Park.
So I have a Winter Park address, but like the Seminole County laws.
Okay.
It's fucking awesome, actually.
And I'm also on like the grid for the fucking fire department.
And in a place where you have hurricanes,
being on, like, a fire department or a hospital grid
is, like, a lifesaver.
Oh, I'm sure.
Yeah, absolutely.
I remember my dad telling me,
if you ever buy a house, buy a house near a hospital.
The grid will stay up.
Yeah, when I was in the Navy studying nuclear power at nuclear power school, it used to be in Orlando, Florida, before they moved it to South
Carolina. So I was in Orlando. And there were nights on the weekend, I would just get in my car
and maybe a six pack or something like that, me alone or me with a buddy and we just
you know drive and I just loved going into that neighborhood looking at the
houses and you know just just having a good time we usually ended up in Daytona
though on the beach just watching the waves come in but you know i did like driving around there
very nice of course that was a long time ago so it was different i'm sure
yeah i'm really looking forward to this nfg nyc um i just got to figure out a couple more
sponsors so if you know anybody else who wants to get represented or go to the red man event for the gaming tournament look inside that side event there yeah man i'll keep my ears open for
sure yeah uh yeah if i do hear of somebody i'll definitely point them your way for sure
so it's crazy just like networking with so many different people and um and there's like a lot of
movement going on right now in the market like a lot of people have been blowing up all the tms
on these accounts just like asking for all kinds of stuff and it seems legitimate actually this
time like we usually you get them all the time and it's all bullshit it's like they just want to send you a fucking thing right I'm like you
gotta either pay me and book or you have to call my phone and have a video like chat I don't work
for people I don't know that's like specifically why I like to go for people who are just total douchebags or scammers.
I don't want to have anything to do with them.
I mean, there's already failures in this space.
We don't need scammers on top of it.
That is for sure.
That is for sure.
It's risky, right?
But we don't need this.
yeah
Yeah.
so i'm being uh speaking of people sending you things i'm there's a casting director that sent
me a message so i'm like uh kind of reading what he's saying sorry awesome somebody talk
somebody there's a couple people who want me to do like voices for certain things like either a
cartoon or an animation
Darcy Donovan said I'd be good for doing voiceover work
Yeah
It's a really really tight knit
Tough racket to get into
But if you get in man
It's really good
I mean like anything
It's about who you know
If you know the white people you'll get that opportunity
You're gonna have to be really fucking good at that job because there's a lot of people
For sure
I'll figure out something I'm sure the tickets weren't that bad
Light was only like 300 bucks both ways so that's not terrible. I think I was already following most of you guys my main account just using all
my other cross pollinating I had a couple people who subscribed in the last
month or two and they're up like one or two thousand pretty awesome that much
organic engagement of course some people some people are easy to get
follows for, you know, or easier
than others, I should say.
Yeah.
I mean, this is kind of an easy
follow. I was like,
I had 68 subscribers, and I was like,
so who's going to be my 69?
And of course, like,
immediately signed up for my
subscription model. But this is this is number 69
so i've been helping to get more followers we're up 2000
it's kind of an easy follow to get that's cool i like, am I being catfish? Who is this?
Well, that's
why I'm looking up the casting director right now.
It's like, okay.
Oh, yeah.
There's so many
fake directors and
fake video games
and all kinds of stuff like that.
I don't click any fucking links
and just assume most people are bullshit. I just don't take, I don't click any fucking links and just assume most people are full of shit.
I just like ask for double confirmation of everything.
Like call me,
make that main account that you say you're representing.
They got to follow me now.
Like I just followed them.
Now go make sure they follow me.
Then we can talk.
I'm not following them.
We're not talking until they follow me now.
You just said you work with that main account.
We found your resume. We'd like to work with you main account. We found your resume.
We'd like to work with you.
Okay, well, follow me back then.
I'll see you in a minute.
Yeah, this one is a little better than that
because he knows something that I did in the past
and he's asking me if I want to do it again.
They're going to reboot the show.
That's cool.
What kind of stuff have you done?
Oh, I've done...
I've been on stage
from the East Coast
to the West Coast
all over the country
and I've done
movies, TV shows,
soap operas,
commercials.
Dope.
Yeah.
And then the pandemic hit.
Now I have a day job.
You started that as a kid?
No, no.
I wish I would have.
Right.
I wish I would have been in rehab with Robbie Downing Jr.
if I'd done it when I was a kid.
Oh, missed opportunity.
I know myself.
I'd have been out here running around with a Brat Pack and stuff.
But yeah, I didn't come out here that soon.
what was the what was like the most fun you had doing like that job
What was the, what was like the most fun you had doing like that job?
well that's a that's an interesting question because it's all different um
one of the funnest times i had and so i've only done one sitcom and that was in 2019
before the pandemic and and i'd never done a sitcom before that.
And I really, I got pissed off at myself because I wasn't focusing on that when I came out here.
And I should have because it was so much fun.
The energy, the pace, it was just so fun to film that show.
And then.
Was it a porn?
What was it? What was it?
What's that?
I said, was it a porn? What was it?
It was a sitcom. It was the Conners
On ABC
Cool
But that was the last thing I did
In 2019, because then the pandemic hit
Things were things were already
leaving LA before that but
once that happened it was like okay
well now
we have real problems and I needed a job
so I got a day job but
I want to get back on stage
again that's my
most favorite thing to do is theater
which is probably most actors favorite thing to do is theater which is probably most
actors favorite thing to do who grew up with theater because you get to tell a whole story
from start to finish and the audience is different every night so it's a different show every night
you sort of form bonds as a family when you're performing and um it's really it's really quite special but I had fun
I was a monster in a horror movie that was a blast something similar to that I
went to Disney World the what's that fort wilderness uh during halloween and i
put on a goblin mask and chased down golf carts because golf carts max at like 19 20 miles an hour
like they're not fast like i so i can i can run up behind it and then pick it up and when you pick
up a golf cart full of people with a goblin mask you get the greatest screams it's such a good feeling to know you made a difference you know that's awesome so you yeah that so that was a like
i did i did something similar um i didn't have to lift anything except a chainsaw but
halloween horror nights uh i did that for three years. They brought it back out here in L.A. for the first time in a long time.
And one of the years, I was a killer clown.
I had glow-in-the-dark makeup on, and they had black lights and stuff around that area and stuff, so I glowed.
But I had a chainsaw, and I sat on the curb next to a trash can and a pole.
And I just sat there like a statue.
And so people would just walk up to me and they're like, is that real?
I can't tell, right?
Oh my God, what is that?
And stuff like that.
And then when they got close enough, I would start the chainsaw and start chasing them
around the park.
That was fun.
That was great.
Yeah.
My friends like in a metal band and his the the lead singer used
to do that every time like every halloween and we so we'd go and we try to find them you know
uh which is which was fun and yeah you run and they just chase you and you just look at them
and smile and they just go like oh you're not scared i'm gonna go on to the next victim
that's cool it's so funny i don't get scared. It's so funny. I don't get scared.
I always like to say,
I don't get scared.
I get stabby.
I grew up in West Palm.
So you're just likely to get hit.
If you scare me,
I'm not like going to jump.
I'm just like,
if anything,
there might be like some kind of,
you know,
martial arts reaction.
But I'm pretty good at just like not reacting.
And then the people behind
me really don't see the jump scare coming i had people behind me at universal get mad at me
because they're like you're not reacting and then it scares the shit out of me will you please react
well if you don't like getting scared, you're in the wrong place.
I think this stuff is really cool, so I'm checking out that person's makeup and that person's prosthetic
and how the lighting is.
From a movie standpoint,
it's a production value.
I'm admiring the production value.
I'm just not scared.
You can jump out in front of me with a machete
and I'm just like, eh, my stomach hurts a lot.
I've been dealing with Crohn's.
I'd be fine to die right now.
I really don't care.
Well,
and another fun thing I did,
one year with Halloween Horror Nights,
we had an execution show and I was electrocuted three shows a night in the
electric chair that,
that was from the prop house that
was used uh what movie was i can't remember the movie it was used in but was it one of those high
vault ones that kind of arcs but doesn't hurt you so they didn't actually plug it in to do that um
to have that kind of a special effect but i was was strapped in and I, and before I went out
on stage to be interviewed, so what happened was it was a parade through the park and they would pull
quote unquote people attending the event, right? Audience members into the parade with them. And I
was one of those people, right? I right as a plant so they would pull me in
and I would be part of the parade and then we'd end up on the the Blues Brothers stage
where the execution show would take place and and three of us would get executed one person
had their head chopped off I was electrocuted in the chair and somebody got stretched and
they had an emcee you know and and he would interview us before it happened.
And so every night before I would go on stage, I would put half an Alka-Seltzer in my mouth.
And so by the time I got into the chair and everything and I was being electrocuted and stuff, you know,
I would just open my mouth and all of this foam from Alka-Seltzer and stuff would start dripping out of my mouth and
stuff like that. But the cool thing was there were two nights. One night we had Michael Jackson
in the audience and there was always a joke that we had about my hair catching fire
from the from the electric chair and the host walked up and he goes hey uh Michael Jackson's
in the audience we're gonna cut that joke tonight I went yeah that's a good call so we didn't do
that and then uh one night Matthew Perry was in the audience and so I became Chandler from New
York City and uh he's like what's your name Chand Chandler. Oh, where are you from? New York.
Hey, isn't that that gay guy on Friends? And I went, oh, dude, I'm out of here, man.
You know, and apparently our director was watching him and apparently he loved it.
Just just had a good laugh about it and stuff. So those were two fun nights for sure.
That's awesome. What's what's like the most famous person you got to meet that you weren't expecting to meet?
Not expecting to meet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I liked,
I liked that qualification.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well,
because like,
I mean,
if you get booked for a role,
like obviously you're going to meet,
you're going to meet that person.
Right.
I want to know like what was,
what surprised you or you thought was cool.
Like,
you know, you're like, oh shit, they're
filming this here too?
Well, and these are not in context of
actually filming anything,
but Charlize Theron
another time...
Oh yeah, she's great.
And another time it was
Tim Robbins back when he was still working a lot and doing a lot of stuff.
The initial name that popped into my head though when you first asked the question without the qualification was going to be Clint Eastwood.
It's like when he's directing a movie and you're working
on the set, it's like, okay, this guy
knows what he's doing. This is great.
Yeah, that's
some legacy stuff right there, too.
That's cool. Yeah.
Ran into
George Clooney at a
driving range.
That's fine. So where do you live in LA or?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm in LA.
Yup.
You said California.
So California and you're acting.
That's probably where you'd want to be.
Probably.
Or I'd say just straight up say Hollywood.
Right. But yeah, that's the most expensive place to be. Nobody really to be. Probably. Or I'd just straight up say Hollywood, right?
But yeah, that's the most expensive place to be.
Nobody really lives there, right?
You just work there.
My question to you, Mike, is who did you fangirl over?
I know there's got to be somebody you fangirled over.
Well, I'm going to have to think about that because I'm a weird person in the fact that, so when I was in Colorado, I was in college, you know, and I was working at a restaurant and
the kicker for the Denver Broncos came in and I remember all the people, well, the cooks and
stuff, right. They're like, Oh my, I was waiting on him. And
they're like, oh, you got to go ask him for his autograph, you know, and get his autograph,
this kind of stuff. And I said, I'm not doing that. And they're like, why? I said, because
he's eating. I'm not going to bother him. You know, um, if you guys want his autograph,
you go get it, but I'm not going to do that. Right. And at the end of the meal, I just said, I said, Hey, you know, I thank you for the entertainment and hope you guys do well this year and stuff like that. So that's kind of how I am. So I don't, I don't, I'm going to have to think on that to see if I did that with anybody or not.
because most of the time I'm too professional.
Well, I'm professional about it, right?
And they're doing a job and I don't want to interfere.
You know, it's nice to go say hi or something or let them know.
But it's been strange when I've done that.
Like, who is it, Jason Geddes, I think it was.
He was sitting at a Starbucks and a Starbucks that I was there all the time and, and he was out there and I just said, I said, Hey man, I just, I enjoy what you do. And I just want to thank you for the entertainment and stuff. And he, he didn't know how to react. It caught him off guard. And he's like very, he kind of like, I got the look from him that I was weird.
He kind of like, yeah, I got the look from him that I was weird.
I give everybody that look when they give me a compliment because I grew up in a place where I just don't.
I just expected that everybody was lying in order to like rob me.
Right.
So when I get a compliment, you know, if you grew up in the ghetto like that, you get a compliment.
You're just like, all right, this is us.
You know what I mean? Like, I don don't know everyone usually cheat people like shit because
it's like a defense mechanism so someone being nice to you seems like sus you know
yeah okay that makes sense
i'm getting better at that i'm getting better at that and not being too awkward but
well and because i've had that for a long time.
Because I've been on stage all my life,
it's like what I've learned is, you know,
like if an audience is giving you a standing ovation
or they're just clapping or whatever, it's a release for them, right?
They want to express themselves for what just happened. And it's not for me or anybody else. It's just,
hey, an appreciation of what just happened and stuff like that. So that's how I've always
thought of it. And I learned a long time ago that when somebody gives you a compliment,
just say thank you, right?
Because the compliment isn't for you.
It's for them to express how they feel about what you did.
And it's a nice release for them.
So it's just polite.
Just go, oh, thank you.
Or maybe I'm glad you liked it.
That kind of thing.
So that's what I do.
I just say thank you.
You should be happy that there's someone who
also appreciates the same thing that you appreciate that's what it comes down to right like i mean yeah
maybe they might be fangirling out right but also they when it comes down to it they appreciate and
recognize what you are doing and that means that they too have like some knowledge or skill in that
area in a way right because right like real
recognized real kind of thing right so i try to think of it from that perspective because i also
like we're all just people right like i don't think i'm anything special um but we're all special
but also not at all in a way if that makes any sense like we're all unique but we're not special that makes sense i mean i'm
definitely a special boy but still like no i get i get what you're saying yeah yeah um it's like i
remember i remember uh when i was doing south pacific and i was talking to one of the guys
that was building the sets and stuff you know and i he was actually the father of the guys that was building the sets and stuff, you know, and I, he was actually the
father of the daughter who was playing Leah and who I fall in love with in the show.
And, you know, I was talking to him and I was, you know, he's building these sets.
I'm going, man, you know, that's, that's a skill I don't have.
And I think it's pretty, pretty amazing that you can do that kind of stuff.
And he goes, I can't do what you do.
You know, and I'm like, yeah, well, okay.
So we all have our own strengths and our own abilities to do things.
And appreciating that is something that I think is healthy, especially in yourself too, you know.
And it's,
it's a good place to be just to be able to appreciate what people can contribute. Um, no matter what that contribution is.
Gratitude is important.
Yeah. I'm getting better at that.
Think about that a lot lately.
I think about it all the time because i have a lot of problems so if you focus on gratitude and what you do have it can be less depressing you know
for sure you gotta stay positive negativity doesn't help anything get better so it just
makes things worse.
Your brain is a muscle.
It's being trained for everything you do.
That's why you study.
That's why you work out.
That's why you go to batting practice.
Every little thing, that's why you do it to get better, to train.
Well, if you think depressed or think positive, you get better at that.
It's the point where you can just spiral,
that's why depression can be such a pit suck
because people who are stuck in their feels
and they just keep feeling it and then they can't interrupt.
At a certain point, it's almost impossible to interrupt that cycle.
And that's just a natural neuron that's going to fire in their brain
because it's so strong.
It almost immediately just fires and then they're sad.
So that's like what depression really is like a chemical like physical level right
so i figured out like this positivity is like actually rewired my brain like i was so depressed
growing up and then i didn't realize how depressed i was when i was growing up until like
like fucking flipped like 10 years of really dealing with Crohn's disease and all those other
issues so I was like fuck it let's get these knee surgeries you know like I got two knee surgeries
on both legs so I'm three people and six screws just that negative like downward spiral eventually
just like snapped and like had to like think of something funny or
positive to distract myself from that other bullshit negativity and compression so i was
playing video games and just trying to tell jokes whenever the you know i got killed or my friends
got killed especially like if the mic goes live and people act all toxic and shit and i just i
would just tell a joke instead and it just changed the vibe completely we were all playing better we were all laughing and i was just like this is fucking
this is a hack it's like a life hack this is seriously like some critical shit because i
like i actually got over my anxiety like i used to be a shy person and i had like social anxiety
when i was like 12 like and older all through like high school and college.
And I didn't really think about it as what it was, you know,
because I didn't understand it.
You know what I mean?
Like you don't understand it while you're going through it.
It's afterwards that you're like, oh, now I see what was happening.
So yeah, one time I go, I get shot in the, in the game. and instead of blurting out a joke, I'd just go,
DeFi Space Donkeys.
And I got the laugh from my friends and the team, and everyone just thought it was goofy.
I couldn't even hear it because I had headphones on.
So I was just like, well, hey, that worked, and I need to get the word out.
Some people know that a DeFi Space Donkey is a lover of crypto and NFTs.
A space donkey, according to Urban Dictionary,
is someone who is addicted and they will not get off drugs.
So a DeFi space donkey won't get off the blockchain.
That's good.
They're lovers of crypto and NFTs.
If you don't tell anybody, no one's going to know.
So I just kept repeating it until I got everyone to Google it.
And meanwhile, I was locking in my SEO and making
sure everything worked proper and yeah here I am four years later and it's like my 2FA and I do it
before I speak in a space or a video or a lot of anything it just that's my way of starting out
if I don't I won't speak until I've been called on and then do that intro interesting i like it i like it well one of the things that's i guess that's
probably one reason i do the space the way i do it um for happy hour you know it's just there's so
much aggression in the space and there's so much competition in the space and so much, you know, I got to make money or, you know,
they rugged me or they did that to me or whatever and stuff like that. And, you know, this is just a
nice midweek. Hey, let's kind of sit back, decompress and have a nice chat. Now, I will
interview people every once in a while.
I'm trying to get somebody pretty big on, actually.
He wanted to wait. What's that?
I said, well, I'm kind of a big deal.
I do love doing interviews, or if you even want to co-host.
But I hadn't been pursuing you for an interview.
So that's, that was the whole point.
I know.
I'm just joking.
I was just messing around.
I'm just saying like, if, if you, if you are interested in either a host or co-host or
whatever, I'm, I'm good on both sides.
Like whether I do interviews and I've been interviewed a lot of times, like I'm good
on, on either side.
Just like, yeah, that's nice. That's nice. Yeah. We got Lady Magic up here too. And she, um,
she's been with me for a while and it's kind of a cool vibe. And, um, but yeah, I'm not opposed to
other co-hosts either at certain points, you know, certainly if there's interviews or something going on it might be might be fun to have three instead of just two but yeah so this is
this evolved into this it wasn't quite like this when it first started but it
has evolved into this and it's been fun been fun because we get to meet all
kinds of different people
and talk about different subjects.
And then I added the
whiskey blues and it just
sort of all came together.
I like it.
So when did you start doing
interviews and stuff on Spaces?
Well,
the first time I started
doing Spaces, I think, was September of 22.
August or September of 22, I started doing Spaces.
I was either a host or a co-host with D-Dish for a long time, for over a year.
And he's still going twice a week. He's been going ever since then. I got burnt out with real life and Web3 life all at once. So it was,
I think it was the end of September in 23 when I took a break.
I just, I stopped completely cold turkey and just,
I would check in every once in a while.
I would listen, you know,
for a few minutes here and there to see how things were going.
And then I just, I just quit.
And then I found, I found another community.
I found the crypt in January of 24, I think, and that got me back.
Great community, fun to hang out with, everybody likes each other, it's kind of a family vibe.
I started getting up on Spaces again and started hosting some.
started getting up on Spaces again
and started hosting some.
And then Happy Hour
actually started, what, last
July, I think, so almost a year ago.
Used to be on Thursdays.
Moved it to
Wednesday.
Because Lady Magic's off on Wednesday, so
it's much easier. She can
actually participate.
I know most of the Crypt guys. i feel like i was in there in
the beginning yeah the uh there's a a definite core of people that have been there since the
beginning and have never left um but you know people got in there that and a lot of them have
the same backgrounds as far as crypto goes, being rugged by different projects, being scammed, stuff like that.
And then the art kind of draws you in because I do love the art of the crypt for sure.
I like it a lot.
And it's so detailed.
It tells a story of the founders life which is
really cool too and you know you get in kind of because of that and then then
the community keeps you and it's fun come for the money in the art crypto and
stay for the community 100% I launched in October 2021 so it was
like right when the markets crashing I'm like we we love crypto and FTS we are
deep I space talking like look at the chart you jackass yeah yeah and the end
it was like a blessing like because i was building
in the bear instead of the bull it was i actually got to learn lessons and not have to deal with so
many bullshit people that were just here rugging everybody well and that and then that was about
the time too um i noticed well maybe maybe six months later or something like that, or maybe it started then, there were so many influencers that were just going from project to project and getting people to buy in and then leaving and going on to the next one, you know, which I guess is their job, right?
But so many people were following the influencers and getting wrecked just for a couple
straight years it seems
and then I maybe I've
curated my timeline enough that I don't have those
people on my timeline anymore I'm not sure
but I haven't seen a lot of
them
I try not to have them on my timeline but
at the same time I cross pollinate
and go to a lot of different communities so every once in a while i'll see a friend over into that group i'm just
like what are you doing over there like do you know what you're doing he's like no i don't that's
so i uh i made an x-ray into an nft called totally for my surgeries
i was like i'll do this as a waiver if anyone wants to contribute to my surgery
recovery and shit so i made this in there as like a raffle ticket for certain things so all
the 10 000 collection is like literally 10,000 copies of a photograph.
And then it can be burned for a raffle ticket.
And like,
I just,
you know,
especially bomb all kinds of random stuff.
My sponsors.
That's awesome.
All that reminds me of is the three knee surgeries I had and,
and what, and having the video of one of them.
And I thought I could watch it and I'm like, you know, I'm not I'm not I'm not watching.
I wouldn't even stand in the room while they told me they were going to what they were going to do.
They were like, so we're going to take a bone saw. And I was like, I'm out.
You tell it to my wife and she's not going to tell me either.
But honey, if it sounds like it's going to maybe work i'm like i'm down i'm either
way i'm down i just don't want to hear this shit i'm out i'm out fuck as soon as i'm out when i
heard brain uh bone saw it's uh yeah um but yeah because i got a fulker's osteotomy which is where
they cut the shin bone out where the tendon comes across the patella and attaches to the leg.
So they cut that shin bone out.
I mean, you can see it in the x-ray and they rotated 90 degrees.
They move it over and down and just screw it in place with two titanium bolts.
Wow.
So I got both legs like that.
And then I got tendons on my quads from like cadavers on both legs.
All I can see is ow yeah right poor thing ow
hi moonbeam hi it was it was kind of painful yeah yeah i i don't think i would have lived through
that tricky i don't that's something i've always tried not to think about i don't think it was a
good 20 21 days of like really, really intense pain.
It felt like they just like twisted my leg off.
Like it was great because it's like all because the way they rotated the bone.
It was it was a weird feeling.
It was definitely kind of fucked up.
Owie.
But I haven't dislocated since then.
So I am really glad.
I pray to God you never do.
Yeah.
And also I milked my insurance like a motherfucker.
It was $40 for the copay for the doctor's visits.
I did like four doctor's visits and then like physical therapy.
I spent like 80 bucks to get my surgeries and then another
$1,500 for recovery and they got like a quarter million dollars of surgeries.
Good job.
Because, ow.
They would have to hook me up for a while.
Even if I made it through the pain at all, there's just no way.
I like the music.
I was sitting up here creating.
This is so cool.
Dirty blues.
I like it.
It's chill.
It's nice to meet you.
I don't know if I've met you or Ladyhead.
I don't know either.
And the same moonbeam that is usually in purple, but I have new kittens, so I had to change my pee for a little bit.
I love it.
Love it, love it
Well, welcome
Thank you
It is just a
Kind of a free
Stage
You know
We're just vibing out
And detoxing
detoxing till we can make it to the end of the week
Until we can make it to the end of the week
made sure i followed everybody with the weed account
this is the small account of the me of just the project
and then yeah we've got i got 10 accounts total
well yeah okay so i think i'm following back very cool yeah make sure you follow all 10 now
i'm not even i'm not even exaggerating that's the crazy thing i got 25 different social medias
and then i got 10 accounts on x alone and h1 i'd have at least two accounts on it not five wow you know the aforementioned my getting burned
out that would do it to me for sure yeah i i was i mean i've been live every day for like four years
at this point um but i do not i don't really do like my normal programs i don't do a program space
on tuesday and thursday because i left that like that was basically a reserve for doctor's appointments
Now I don't do so many doctors appointments. I only have to do like well to a month so I
Thought still a lot baby, but it's not
But yeah, I definitely don't I mean I just i like it like it just it distracts me from
my other issues so i i'm about it i need that i need to do my intro and snap out of my brain
and like get focused on like back to what i'm building and my goals and stuff you know if you
stay positive and focus on your goals and your life is just completely different you will accomplish your goals instead of just spiraling downward so yeah it's it's been it's been fucking crazy
i'm just i'm just glad i went it's like the worst thing and the best thing that ever happened to me
right like physically it was like fucking terrible uh that i had to deal with all that but then like
on but on a mental side like we all have different ways that our brain
has to develop and like tricks we had and like things we have to learn about life and just
ourselves and stuff and i feel like it took it's like not always easy yeah and thinking of positive
it's like this the only direction because you can't think any more negative you know what i mean
so yeah it's like you know it's like a box of chocolates, they say.
But I'm like, I don't even know if it's a box of anything.
It just happens.
It's so cool that you can think positive, though.
I would freak out if I met some of the people he met, though.
I would pass out.
Like, have you ever met uh really scott
who i'm a writer i'm a screenplay writer and i'm gonna faint if i ever like i love jim henson
and james cameron is my favorite really scott i would those are the people i would faint like
fessy and brad pitt i just hey shake his hand and walk by. I work with a lot of people who are pretty, like, relatively famous.
And I just, I, ever since going through what I went through, I'm, like, very much, like, lost my identity.
I've lost my, like, sense of self, if that makes sense.
Like, I don't have, like, pride.
You know, or, like, fear of death. I'm, like, I'm kind of, like, pride, you know, or, like, fear of death.
I'm, like, I'm kind of, like, detached from, like, my...
Yeah, pain does that to you, Tricky.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, I've been in so much pain.
It's, like, I don't feel like my body is me.
I'm, like, stuck in this meat cage.
That's just, like...
But you can't think like that because you're not a meat cage.
You're a DeFi space dog, and you're tricky.
And it's tricky to rock around to rock around the mic.
And here we... No. No, everything no everything positive yeah you have to frame the perspective
in the right way that's productive and and not gonna make you spiral downward and make you make
you hurt more or you know even worse off yeah you have to think happy hippie thoughts that's always
what i would say it was it was like a 10-year downward spiral like it was like i mean at that
point it was like all right am i gonna just kill myself or am I going to pull myself out of this?
Like, what the fuck is actually going to happen?
Because I can't just, this is not, this is not sustainable.
Like, this has got to, this has got to fucking stop.
Like, whatever, whatever the fuck this is, I can't do it anymore.
And luckily, I picked positivity, I guess.
Well, I'm glad you're here because I don't want you to ever think that because I think we all get down like where is there left to go?
And, you know, that I don't want to hit.
It's like no matter what pushes me to that spot.
Although even if you're not pushed to that spot, you're trained in your basic genome.
I've got so many people that rely on me and I would never abandon,
you know what I mean? It comes down to it. So that was never really an option,
you know what I mean? But when you're allergic to milk, all the food, you can't go out to eat,
you're stuck at home. You're with Crohn's, you're just like, I was going to the bathroom
like 15 times a day and it was like mostly blood stomach pain constant migraines that usually would be like four to like midnight uh if not
the whole day you would be fun to go out to eat with because i was a restaurant manager and i
would fire everybody that didn't do the allergy no we're bad i'm bad i would just get a bunch of
people fired if i go out i would get never because if they do one thing wrong tricky that's it that's the whole thing when you train for that job you have no allergies
and it's a big deal like and i would love to go that means you eat really good if you you don't
when do you ever go out on vacation and only eat at like one place yeah if that i mean i bet you
eat really good i bet i would eat i'm telling stuff. I'm telling you, you're wrong.
It doesn't work that way.
Because I don't eat that much.
Especially in Florida.
But you have more than one meal a day, right?
Sometimes I don't eat one.
That's not healthy either.
But I do a lot of...
Typically, if you're not going to just eat at one location is what I'm saying.
So in which case, you eat at two locations, how do you know who to blame?
Right.
So there's no, they didn't improve and I'm sick for two weeks.
That's the simplest.
Well, they should cater more to you.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm crazy like that.
I agree with that, but it's just not how it is.
Well, you just put your foot down.
Put your paw down.
Put your hoof down and say, listen, I am a DeFi space knocking.
And I say no.
That doesn't help.
That's a helpful move.
Florida's like not that great.
Denver was really good.
California was okay.
Washington and Oregon were really good.
I think still Denver was probably the best place for food allergies.
Do you feel like there's some country roads?
I've always wanted to go to Denver, and I've never gone to Denver.
I may have gone through Denver, maybe.
No, I haven't ever gone through Denver.
Denver's a kind of country, but not really.
It's like that's the city. That's where the airport is.
It's like the hub.
See, I would think that. I've got a lot of states wrong.
Like New York. I didn't even know they had a...
I never want to go to New York.
There's a lot of parks and stuff.
Like really accessible and stuff in Denver.
I want to travel.
Don't you want to travel
Oh, I bet you're getting ready to have so much fun your wife getting ready have so much fun
That's weird cuz my disability does that. I have to take my medicines and stuff, but I have to have
my medicine. You know what I mean?
I can't not have it.
I always go off on people who are just like,
you shouldn't take any pharmaceuticals. They're all
garbage. They're just trying to trick you
and always having to take medicine. I'm like,
yeah, well, someone's having a seizure, you give
them the anti-seizure medicine, right?
Yeah, don't give them their... Medicine is obviously valid. Okay, well, then you's having a seizure, you give them the anti-seizure medicine, right? Yeah, don't give them their...
So, anti-medicine is obviously valid?
Okay, well, then you don't know what every fucking medicine does.
So, just like, maybe you shouldn't tell people to not take medicine, because then there's people who are just, like, not taking their medicine.
They give them a really shitty life.
Yeah.
Because they think of the stigma that's around it.
Like, it's actually, like, really fucking people up.
Yeah, I wish you would be on that show show or it used to be a conspiracy theory space but they were always like you know don't
you you could talk your mind out of what's wrong with you and tricky you know me i was like what
i cannot it is not in just my mind without medicine i die and they were oh no there's a
cure one guy said there's a cure for everything i was like listen dude i don't know who you are
who you're being i said but some of us have to take you know there's diabetics, there's a cure for everything. I was like, listen, dude, I don't know who you are, who you're being. I said, but some of us have to take, you know, there's diabetics, right?
There's probably a diabetic in here.
There's so much to it.
But I mean, mental part is a big part of it.
But you have to be in the right frame of mind and ready to even do those things.
Like you can't, when someone's going through the trauma of like a health issue, telling
them that like you can think your way out of it is like the
last helpful thing you can say yeah i went up that's why i got a divorce because it's basically
there's basically i'm kind of saying like oh it's just all on your head and that's the
when i'm that's why i'm a hidden chronic illness advocate because i i was trying to be a bodybuilder
in high school and i worked i was like really jacked so even I with Crohn's for multiple years I still look healthy
like I'm still look healthier than most people so they would just think I was like it was in my head
and they just give me antidepressants and anti-anxiety meds like for the first five years
that I had Crohn's and I was like really dealing with it I was like if I'm coming to you it's
serious like I hate going to the doctor. Yeah, it's like
the doctor...
I know I think he's stuck in a belt sander once and took like a third of it off.
I didn't go to the doctor.
They're the coldest fans.
They take your heartbeat, and I'm like,
God, get your hands off me. I always have a girl doctor.
Because you can always do that, guys.
Like, if girls...
And if you go to the doctor, you can recommend recommend that you have i always have a female doctor i never always bring an advocate with me
to take notes but i have doctors just sit in the corner and write down everything the doctor says
and that way he won't say anything stupid or dumb i've been with mine for years He'll be conscious that he needs to like bank state.
I love this music.
It's so cool.
I'm so stoned. Am I allowed to say that in here?
I'm in trouble, right?
How you doing, Mike? What are you up to? I mean, are you still looking into that
recruiter or director or whatever
where are you gonna travel first what was that where are you gonna travel first
i don't know what kind of a question is that you said you're ready to travel where's your
what because i have somewhere in my mind i want to go as soon as I can go I would like to go anywhere, but I don't have any money or ability to do that right now
I know I don't I'm trying to go to NFT NYC, but I gotta get I gotta get some scholarships or not scholarships
I need like I
Need at least like 1200 bucks really I'm realistically I do it be good to get a platinum level sponsor a diamond level sponsor
Well, what do you go you can get different sponsors for the nyc like completely different like off the wall um
like what like if you would get the sponsors now you could probably get like
different um communities like i don't bet so many people you're so high, Moon. I am high. I am high.
Yeah.
I don't know what the fuck you're trying to say.
You can do it.
I was like, yeah, I want to get it in my feet.
You can do it. Okay, just write it a motivation.
I got it.
Motivational by Moon.
Moon motivational.
It's moon time.
So, Lady, um, Lady Magic.
Why Lady Magic?
Are you like magic?
Are you a magician's assistant?
Um, no, I'm a witch.
Oh, okay, cool.
I come from a long line of witches.
We came over on the Mayflower and we were in Salem and kind of scattered from there.
Do you?
I'm Hispanic and my grandmothers were.
Yeah, I just kind of stuck with it I love your PFP
that is so cool
thank you
that's the crypt trading card
the kiss of death
it's my favorite
there's a trading
or a card game for
it's called TOT I forgot what that stands for, but it's James, meme for trees.
He makes like this, it's kind of like Dungeons and Dragons, like style, there's like orcs and elves and humans.
That's cool.
And he made like a meme coin on Polygon for each community, and they are like, they interact in this weird like way.
and they are like they interact in this weird like way so like bots when one thing buys it the
box like will buy and sell other things so like it just like it interacts with the system but also
you can take any nft and a normal nft will have like a one-on-one point for like whatever traits
that you have like a super rare nft with like extra trait or extra things like it could have extra points well we just got a tree from Jimmy from the world record holder for most trees planted in
24 hours and like 30,000 trees basically we have each uh nft on polygon specifically
it's a 10,000 collection but 2,000 on polygon so each one has a tree attached to it a tokenized
world record tree and also that tree therefore gives them an extra point in the game oh sweet
that's cool nice way to throw some
conservation in there.
Yeah, that's a little random one fact.
Yeah, that's cool though. That's a neat
thing to do. Yeah, that just happened this week.
This week's sponsors
and we had, okay, so we got DigiArt Ninja
gave us $800 in coupons for the
digital art.
The Weedcoin hired me as their
sponsor, and I'm their ambassador for spaces digital art uh this uh the weed coin hired me as their as their sponsor as their they're my
sponsor and i'm their like ambassador for like spaces and stuff and also one of their like
advisors um trees and then also um we got cyber a coffee we just got a coffee club so we have like
my pfb from the donkeys um nice coffee and then like a dollar is going to go to thrones and colitis
foundation for all the sales they'll help like i get like 50 or something like that bags to like
give to my community and sell or raffle off or whatever i want to do with it and then those
their other like 400 or 450 that there are will all be sold on the website so it's kind of like
in a way it's marketing for me but it's also like a dollar for charity for everyone that
sells nice I'm selling their coffee they're selling kind of like my NFT on
their coffee very cool everybody is happy yeah everybody
makes something yeah it's exactly. It's nice.
I've got to get my tea and my tea at the same time so people can have a bag of coffee and a bag of my tea
and mix them together.
Nice.
You mix the tea and the coffee and just brew it like normal.
It makes energy coffee.
You don't really even notice there so much,
especially after you've drank it a couple times.
I make a honey milk latte out of it.
That's my breakfast.
I put 20 grams of protein, like beef collagen or collagen peptides in there.
Uh-huh.
And then probiotic.
Because with Crohn's, you need liquid food is the best if you absorb it that way
or like chew things like three times the amount
hey Mike
can you lower your music just a taste
can you lower your music a taste
yeah thank you I've been having trouble hearing Tricky Hey. Can you, though, your music just to taste, Ted? Yeah. Can you throw your music a taste? Yeah.
I've been having trouble hearing Tricky. I don't know
if it's my headphones or what.
I've tried messing with the settings.
You know what? It's totally me.
It's totally me. This phone that I'm using right here right now,
this phone microphone sucks.
I have to, like, hold the phone next to my face
and, like, kind of, like, talk into it kind of loud.
Wow.
In order for it to work.
Like now it probably sounds more normal,
right?
Yeah.
I can hear you now.
Yeah.
It was weird though,
because as you were talking,
Mike,
why are you yelling at me?
Mike's music would lower a little bit while you were talking,
but it would come back before you finished what you were saying.
So it was,
it was kind of weird because it was interacting with you.
Yeah. It's definitely him for sure. Okay. Yeah. Cause I hear interacting with you. Yeah, it's definitely him
for sure. Okay.
Yeah, because I hear everybody else fine.
I'm going to get my other device in a second.
Okay, sweet.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I was looking at
some of the previous posts
that we had and I was wondering
which ones to post up in the Jumbotron.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Because we've got a lot
of Emil stuff going on.
So much.
I'm going to take down the trauma here.
I'm going to get rid of that X-ray.
Yes,
doesn't need any more followers.
We'll get rid of that for you
oh come on let us look at the x-ray actually like i i was actually wondering if i should
have gone into forensics i've got this morbid curiosity with with uh
solving crimes through the point of which a body is decomposing.
Kind of gnarly, but yeah.
Yeah, it's interesting.
My sense of smell is too strong.
My sense of brightness.
Everything's too bright.
Everything smells too much.
And everything's too loud.
You're sensitive.
Yeah, I'm super sensitive on those things. So it's good for certain things.
But it's kind of annoying hearing my neighbors sneeze inside their house.
And I get headaches easy because of that.
That's too bad.
Chemical smells and stuff like that.
Yeah.
I wear my sunglasses at night.
100%.
Yeah, with me, I'm the opposite.
I've had asthma and allergies all my life, so I can't smell anything most of the time.
And I only smell like really strong scents like jasmine and orange.
And occasionally I can smell, but it's not often because my allergies usually kick in pretty much all year round.
If you break a sweat, I can tell you what you've eaten in the last two or three days.
That would be interesting because I drink cachava quite often.
So I might not be able to place it. Okay. Yeah.
I might not have smelled that enough to know what the smell is. But there's a lot of things like certain vegetables, peppers, garlic.
Wow.
All the different seasonings and stuff comes right through your pores.
All the oils come right back through your pores.
I feel for you, dude.
Yeah.
I can smell people from five feet away and know what they smell in the first couple of days.
That's how intense it is i work in a pharmacy and i can definitely smell women who have their perfume too strong that perfume always cuts through for some reason yeah old old ladies that just put
like you spray your like left and right and then forget you did it and do it again and you only
need to spray one in front of you and walk through it that's all you needed to do well what is going on i know right gotta put it on the elbows and on the
wrists and behind the air and all over what's the worst is when you when i get on an airplane
someone has done that or they i what's even worse than that is when i get on an airplane and there's
some old lady that put on icy hot oh yeah because i'm also allergic to menthol
on top of it so it's like super strong and i'm allergic to it like my eyes are watering i can't
breathe oh my god i'm stuck in a tube like this i go into the bathroom and just smoke
make it better
i mean this is recorded no i don't smoke never mind
that's rough I mean, this is recorded. No, I don't smoke. Never mind.
That's rough.
I, uh... I gotta figure out a way to, like,
I don't know, dull it.
I think I might...
Maybe some of my medications that I'm trying to get...
I'm changing my medications up right now. Maybe some of those will kind. Dull it. I think I might, maybe some of my medications, I'm trying to, I'm changing my medications
right now.
Maybe some of those
will kind of help balance it.
Yeah,
it might be something like that.
I'm like,
I got like this
genetic test
and found out
a whole bunch of extra shit
that I was like,
yeah,
this all makes a lot of sense now.
Yeah.
I was just like,
it's clarity though.
You know,
it helps yeah
but yeah just basically neurodivergence and like
my brain is adapted in a weird way to it um so like some of the things that are i've kind of
like weaponized in a way but um on them with the crones coming through 80d plus crones equals the worst fucking
brain fog you can imagine like i was just like sometimes i'll just be like my brain's not my
brain's not working like i can't fucking do anything it's stupid like i'll usually i was
day trading for a while like a while and i was making financial models and then i got to the
point where it was just i could just spot the patterns by looking at it.
Some days I'll just have the brain fog is so intense. I'm like,
I have no idea what's going on.
This is just a bunch of numbers.
I have no fucking idea what's going on.
I'm like, alright, well today's not trading.
Alright, I gotta do something else today.
I guess today I'm just cleaning the kitchen.
You said something about
you drink bulletproof coffee?
I have.
I have.
Okay.
Try bulletproof coffee with some L-theanine, which was Mike's suggestion to me.
I was already drinking bulletproof coffee, but he said to add the L-theanine.
And you get such mental clarity.
And it keeps you from getting the coffee dropped down afterwards.
And it doesn't, it keeps you from getting the coffee drop down afterwards.
Interesting.
Interesting.
So my tea that I make is stinging nettle in it, which has got a stimulant.
And then I have gunpowder green tea in it.
So it's got a little bit of, I mean, that's a really strong green tea,
but it's got a little bit of caffeine basically.
And then a little bit of stinging nettle.
So it like really kind of, it wakes you up,
but it doesn't give you like the heart palpitations you don't feel like the
caffeine effect yeah and you're just like straight up awake for like six
hours so if you drink it at six you're not going to sleep until twelve that
actually could be a good thing in my case yeah Yeah. I mean, I deal with chronic fatigue, so I need any kind of energy I can get.
I take a pretty heavy dose of that energy tea every morning.
I'm pretty much low.
I'm going to be ordering.
Like, now I'm making my list.
Hopefully I can only go to, like,
two or three places to get it this time.
I don't know.
I'm buying it all in bulk,
so I don't have to spend an arm in my legs.
It feels like $3.50 a month.
I'm trying to get to make this shit
in small packages, because it's like
16 to 20 ingredients.
So you figure like 15, 20 bucks per package.
It just adds up to the grade.
But now I'm buying it in bulk.
It's like 50 bucks
a month.
Ooh.
And everything's just gone up.
That's not good.
It's probably going to cost me more like 70 bucks a month.
But that'll be all right.
It's still like, I mean, it's worth 350.
Once you're on it for a month, if you're like chronically ill,
you're probably convinced it's a difficult work. But I'm it for a month. If you're chronically ill, you're probably
convinced it's a difficult work.
If I'm going to just sell it as an energy
drink and then the sleep one is
actually good for
a hangover cure, it's also good for
a workout recovery.
I mean, everyone
can do more
with better sleep and a lot of people don't
realize what the quality of their
sleep is even you know what i mean you just assume yeah normal until like you realize what it could
be and then you're like oh yeah shit was fucked up you know like i never thought of myself as
disabled but after i got my knee surgeries and stopped dislocating my knee every couple months
you know i was like oh i've had over 30 dislocations yeah that's fucking not normal
and i couldn't trust my legs there was literally like legit anxiety from like fear of slipping
falling all the time it was like all the time i've done it brushing my teeth standing in line
like playing every sport yeah it sounds like relaxed and not have to worry about that.
Like the first time I slipped and didn't dislocate my knee, I was like so blown away.
My foot slid six inches and I didn't fall on each shit and I didn't dislocate.
Amazing.
Yeah.
Revelations there
I would never have
yeah I would have followed
you're very lucky
wild stuff
how long were you guys thinking about
going with this space
what is your plan for the night well How long were you guys thinking about going with this space?
What is your plan for the night?
Well, usually we just kind of feel it out and see how long it goes.
It's been a little over three hours at this point.
I would say if it goes another 45 minutes, that's cool.
I don't think I want to go five hours tonight.
Maybe take a little break before I go to sleep.
I'm thinking about crashing out here pretty soon.
I've been up for way too fucking long.
I woke up late.
It was late yesterday,
and I just didn't go to sleep.
I was like, probably should have crashed this morning, but I got on, I started co-hosting
and the next thing I know I've co-hosted like six spaces and been in another eight and I'm
usually in three places at a time.
Um, that's kind of my standard.
I, last year I was record, twice i was recorded in two spaces speaking at
the same exact time and it wasn't scheduled i was in the both spaces i happened to be on stage in
both spaces and both of both spaces called on me at the exact same time so i just went to both and
just spoke to both of them in a vague enough way that it
it spoke to both rooms uh and i did that twice last year
in recorded spaces anyway
that's pretty funny yeah but i usually have a computer in front of me and then i have one
in my left ear and one of my right ear. That's where my phones go.
I'm trying to get another device or two because I have 10 accounts now.
So I need to multitask better.
should get some rest.
And you should get some rest. Yeah, I'm going to definitely do that.
Yeah, I'm going to definitely do that.
I'm going to say goodbye.
I'm going to say goodbye.
I'm going to actually drop my
other accounts into another
room to kind of just support them
while they're hanging out.
Yeah.
I am going to chill with the kittens.
Yeah, have fun with your kittens.
Definitely. You guys have a blessed night.
Huh? Yeah, it was good chatting with you guys.
Definitely.
Yeah, it was great having you. Thanks for coming by.
Appreciate it. Thank you for coming up.
Yeah, look at my work. I love that you're
in movies and stuff. Maybe we can get together.
You read one of mine.
I have a lot of screenplays.
Science fiction. You guys will love them.
Wow.
And they're actually originally written.
They are.
This is before the the big AI yeah but I'm an original writer that's interesting yes
I have a lot of stuff I've just been getting it ready because I do graphics too. And I have this huge idea for the first one and it's like underwater.
It's made in the Mariana Trench.
It's really cool.
But I just have to find the right people to mesh with because I've talked to a few people and they don't, not on the same, I guess, wavelength.
Yeah.
It's hard and
trying to find money is
extremely difficult.
That's a big thing.
Yeah.
But yeah, I'll send you
like a, send you guys like a
little thing of it.
I'm going to go chill with the kittens too and keep you guys like a little thing of it. I'm gonna go chill
with the kittens, too.
Keep you guys up.
Alright. Have a great chill
with the kittens.
Have fun.
And our space is
shrinking.
I think I brought
the Alien Overlord broadcast in here. I'm not sure if I did.
I made that one to just like my sci-fi nonsense because like all this like...
all the weird magic shit that's been going on I'm just throwing it into there
and telling people it's just an alien message that I'm interpreting.
Receiving a message from the alien overlord.
That's basically how I'm passing it off.
But they're like a series of dreams and visions
that I'm just like repurposing into content, kind of.
I had this weird vision.
I'm like, this is either a vision
or I just wrote an original story.
And basically the gist of it is it's like an
ascension like model in a way like through like the course of going through multiple lives and
ascending it kind of breaks down ascension to like a microscopic subatomic particle level
in order to explain it but in the end of the cycle of ascension like at the very end when you're just like pure energy
like literally just like floating around learning the last little bit there is to learn about the
universe while you're like unencumbered by a physical form right but eventually you get bored
and you just want to go back into the start the cycle over again kind of and you you're ready to
redistribute your your energy throughout
the universe well how do you do that well you throw yourself into a Sun that
and you make it supernova says so it literally explodes you and you bond your
energy with the Sun and it just explodes and scatters you to the wind all
throughout the universe but then you're there ready to be assimilated or like
absorbed whether it be byilated or like absorbed whether
it be by plants or chemical process and then eventually you work your way up into the sentient
beings if you've got enough of the same vibrational energy in one descent of one being or any being
it starts to alter their brain patterns and like how they they think basically this is kind of how
it would explain like your consciousness and your personality as a result of the different amounts of uh
vibrational energies that are you know are grouping together kind of like the i think about
like a mountain has like a like a pile of gold like in the middle of it right like a gold atom
is really freaking tiny but the fact that you're inside of a rock that's all solid and there's a big chunk of gold
right right there right or even more baffling is a quartz crystal that's in perfect geometric
formation inside of a geode right like your vet your energy attracts energy and like similar
vibrational patterns seem to cluster together similar with like people and you're conscious so if you get all the right
energy um you know you can basically alter your your conscious thinking patterns and
that's why the positivity is key right you positivity attracts positivity next thing you
know you're on a completely different pattern so yeah that's but that's the story it's the story of Lumina it's like
the the the salt like basically like a moon guy that throws themselves and it involves it even
interferes with the collection too so like the V2s are donkeys from three different planets on
another system where someone being through themselves into a sun prematurely supernova
and vaporized most of them, tossed the rest of them.
The only ones that were able to survive
were the ones that kind of mastered regeneration on a cellular level
and some of their abilities to alter energy
and manipulate that in the first place.
If they couldn't heal themselves, there's no way they would have survived that manipulate that in the first place like if they couldn't
heal themselves they there's no way they would have survived that super over in the first place
so there's like 420 of these that have been like seen approaching earth
probably will land on the solana blockchain or maybe they'll land on the ape chain and uh
yeah that's amazing that they even survive in the first place but the only
ones that did survive are pretty special
either way I know I'm crazy but this is either an original story or some source
of information that I've been tapping into.
I have a couple of them that have been animated, and I have a couple that are still... I'll show you, it would be fine.
Here we go, here's a couple.
I'll just show you two of the animated ones.
There's like custom one of one. Basically, so, um, there's like the prompt is pretty crazy, but there's five different spaces where I can change the, like, based on the questions, you put different answers in those five spots, and that would alter the character like pretty significantly kind of make
customs that way I for example like I play the piano and there's a couple
other things but there is up top there that is two of the V2 DeFi space donkeys that have survived the supernova
the bloody thing is the DeFi space donkeys are actually shapeshifters that's part of the Lord
too they're very unique in form compared to the other ones.
I'll post the original underneath it so you can see.
Oh, here's a coffee bag.
Yeah, those are cool.
I'm sorry I'm not being a very good host.
I'm eating.
You're not allowed to eat.
What are you doing? I was eating my dinner too. You're not allowed to eat. What are you doing?
I was eating my dinner too.
You gotta eat, man. I probably should have a little snack before I crash. So yeah, there you go.
There's the coffee bag on the left and
the DeFi Space Donkey on the right.
That's like the membership NFT.
It's like one hour of my time as well.
I'm a tokenized personal advisor.
It's kind of how I work my utility into
it. Just turn myself into the utility but the guy who wanted the guy I designed
this project for didn't pay the bill just stuck me with it I get stuck with
the bill of what's a while but I just decided hey well I kind of like these
things and I'm gonna turn it into a utility project instead of just a random JPEG, you know.
There were no donkeys back then.
And also, all the backgrounds were super boring back then. So I was like, I'm going to use Hubble Space Telescope Pictures.
that one that's actually the crab nebula
That one, that's actually the Crab Nebula.
okay so that's the cyber coffee
yeah yeah okay Cyber Apriot Coffee. Cool. And then
$9.99
PFP.
Started at $3.00.
Now they're $0.0425.
Nice.
I got my noties on from both
you guys. I'll catch you guys in the next space.
Well, it's been a pleasure.
Thank you, Tricky Buddha.
Appreciate it.
Yes, it has.
Thank you for coming up and speaking with us and spending time with us.
We appreciate it.
Yeah, I like to have new conversations with other people.
You never know who you're going to run into and what kind of stories or skills they're going to have that might be critical to something you're doing later on like you just never know
you know like it's always something random you know that I'll have a friend
that comes to me with a problem at this point if I don't have the answer, I know a guy.
In every city, I feel like there's at least three or four people I can go stay with.
You know?
Like, anywhere in the world.
Do more events now.
Much love, fam.
You guys have a great night.
See you on the next one.
Yep, you too, sir.
Get a good night's sleep.
Mike, did you see that?
Oh my god.
I just saw what you just linked up to the Jumbotron.
Oh, you can see it?
Yeah, I can.
I can't.
You can't? What do you mean you can't?
I'm clicking on it. It's just black to me.
It is?
Dude.
What's wrong with your phone?
Wait, wait. Oh, it's a link.
Never mind.
I was looking for a picture or something.
Oh, no. It's a link.
That's what I was talking about.
I thought that there were different hats and, hats and things and stuff too.
I hadn't seen this before.
This came out a day ago.
Well,
I'd seen something.
it wasn't this necessarily,
but I'd seen different hats on a meal before.
How the heck did I miss this?
I don't know.
Good Lord.
Wow.
Alrighty then.
Even a sombrero.
I'm not sure it was a...
Well, he did say there was going to be a sombrero.
Playa 2.
Hey, Playa. What's up?
Not a whole lot
X has been
Pretty horrible
For this past week
Yeah you're cutting out
Speaking of which this past week. Yeah, you're cutting out.
Speaking of which.
Take a lot. I know.
It's weird because
the whole time I was...
Okay.
Dude.
Yeah, I could barely hear Tricky that whole time. time yeah it was him though i i okay
because everybody else was was fine
that music though dude
good yeah yeah it's killer That music though, dude
Good yeah, yeah killer. I likes like Stevie Ray Vaughan. It's giving me Stevie Ray Vaughan vibes. Yeah
Like you guys were having a perfect conversation i couldn't hear him at all oh dude i had i had my room yeah and then when moonbeam got on it's like she was yelling her
volume was loud yeah yeah yeah because you had to turn it up to hear him yeah i thought it was
just me and i'm sitting at my desk so i didn't want to turn it up to hear him. Yeah, I thought it was just me and I'm sitting at my desk,
so I didn't want to turn it up and then somebody else would get on
and it would be super loud and I didn't want to disturb anybody here in the office.
How is everybody doing?
Hanging out.
Listening to them talk.
Now I'm looking at hats on Emile's.
Yeah, yeah.
I was kind of tripping out.
Yeah, I was laughing because you were saying how you missed that.
I think that was posted out maybe a week, a week and a half before Mint.
So where the hell was i
is that one of those days that i was working and i said hey guys what's up and nobody gave me an
answer i mean you know it's weird i think he even put it in i think he even put it in one of the
announcements or updates see and i go back through i repost everything when I come back in. I like scroll and go through stuff and repost things.
I can't believe I missed this.
Holy shit, that.
Yeah, I thought that was pretty sharp.
Dude.
Lady, did you finally get your seducer?
You know what?
That's a good question.
I was waiting for him to
get some peace
to send
it to me.
Oh, Smitty, right?
No, it was...
Who was it?
Oh, shoot. I don't remember who it was.
Darren Trey?
Oh, it was Sir Harles.
Oh. Oh.
Yeah.
I did get my
lever.
I'm waiting for the second layer.
I've got three of these.
And I'm waiting for the second
layer to see what happens.
Yeah, that should be interesting.
Apparently we get some hats.
That's why I'm not even
offering trades at the moment.
I'd be like, oh man, I'll be the one to give away some good stuff.
Just my luck.
Yeah, I'm okay with whatever
happens. I'm keeping my
destroyers, so I think
if anything, those will be the ones that'll
do something spectacular.
That's the black ones, right? Yeah.
That's the black background with the...
Oh, yeah, those are nice.
Yeah.
They're pretty tough.
I'm trying to decipher that code that he put out, but I can't get a good picture of it.
So I'm trying to get a good screenshot.
I'm going to try and get it on the website and see if it's clearer.
Go into the VC chat, the chat that we have in there through VC.
And Chris had put it up.
There's so much color.
Yeah.
It's a much better picture.
Yeah, well, it's handwritten, but you can see what's wet.
And he said to take the labels on the top and put them down the side.
It seems like it comes in three parts.
Mm-hmm.
And maybe that's where the layer design comes out.
Yeah.
But then you can also see where the one of ones are, where the rares are.
And then there were some where somebody had posted that the bulk of some of them were very rare.
I just wanted to.
They posted that inside the DC chat as well. Well, like I said,
I'm here at work.
I just, you guys know me.
I just like to pop in and say hi
when I get the chance.
We do know you.
We'll catch you guys later.
All right. Well, have a good day.
Thank you for popping up
for a few minutes while you could.
You know where to find us.
Thank you, guys. In the Discord.
Of course.
Yeah.
That's the sad part.
My husband's been messing with me since this past weekend,
and I can't hardly read that shit, so I haven't really been in the Discord.
What's wrong with your eyes?
It's probably just my diabetes acting up.
Well, that's not good.
Yeah, no, it happens off and on, so.
Do you have eye drops you can use?
I just deal with it.
No, no.
I just drink lots of water and wait it out.
Wow.
Be careful.
Yeah, so if I feel like I'm missing something
I take a snapshot
Zoom in
But you guys take care
We'll catch up later
You too, sir
Okay, have a good night
Or day
Whatever the case may be
Or whatever or day. Whatever the case may be.
Or whatever.
Hey, Top Hat.
Mike, I was just sitting back there listening to that nice music you got
in the background
I can listen to that dirty blue shit all day long
isn't it great
it is it's real cool man
you can focus that's working type music
as well you can be sitting at your desk
doing shit on the monitors and all the rest of it
and yeah just totally vibing out
at the same time
you couldn't do that to Metallica you'd lose your fucking train of thought that's for sure for sure
now that's just a are you playing is that your own music are you just grabbing shit
from spotify random random players who is that Who's that artist right there now, Mike?
Mike's pounding on keyboard to look. No, I don't know
who that is. No, but it sounded good anyway.
Anyway, it's easy. I mean, you just pop
in. Anybody can pop in, I suppose. I can
pop into Spotify and say, you know,
blues, cool blues
music, make me a playlist from something
and I'll just spit it out.
Yeah, this is a curated
list that's already put together.
I used to go to jazz
festivals as well, Mike. They were pretty cool.
You know?
I haven't been to one.
I really want to go to the Monterey Jazz Festival.
I really want to go to that.
That's the big one.
That's the main one.
I think I would really enjoy that.
A buddy of mine lives up near there,
so I'd probably have a place to stay.
That's in Switzerland.
Monterey is in California.
They have a Monterey Jazz Festival
in Switzerland as well I believe
oh okay
they have a pair in the Philippines as well Mike
they're not called Monterey but they do have
jazz festivals, big outdoor things
in built up areas near malls and shit
try to So the Hollywood Bowl has
Traveling Wilburys
At least the ones that are still alive
I like them, Twitter and the Monkey Man
Sorry Mike, I got mixed up
I was thinking about, obviously there is the Monterey Jazz Festival
I think of the Montreux.
The Montreux Jazz Festival is in Switzerland.
Oh, okay.
Montreux.
And that's every summer, and that's one of the biggest ones on the jazz festival calendar.
That would be fun to go to as well, because I haven't been to Switzerland before, so that'd be nice.
Yeah, a lot of Swiss people there, apparently.
Apparently. Yeah, they're of Swiss people there, apparently. Apparently.
Yeah, they're very neutral.
Yeah, I was trying to coax Don into introducing me to Swedish girls,
but I have to go to Sweden for that.
Yeah, you've got to buy some IKEA furniture first for your fucking place as well.
They kind of like that.
That's a great pickup line.
Hey there, Helga.
You want to come home and see my new IKEA furniture?
I just got it down at the new IKEA store here in Ventura.
I saw this joke today that – I don't know if it's true that the CEO of IKEA just got elected to office in Sweden.
It wouldn't surprise me, man.
But they said he's trying to put his cabinet together.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know.
Yeah, new prime minister with the new IKEA cabinet.
Fucking, yeah.
Oh, man, you know.
I know.
I think they had, there was one fucking product.
Was it Sweden or was it a big scandal?
I thought it was Sweden.
Might have been one of those other scandal in good countries um was it recently as well um who makes their volvos oh it's the swedes as well yeah yeah i can't remember the exact details of it but it was
oh it was all over it was all over the news and i just i just kind of it just kind of popped up
on a timeline somewhere and i'm like is this real But I didn't dig too much deep into it.
But I did laugh my ass off on that day.
Just a few months back.
I just can't remember what it was.
But it did involve the Swedish prime minister at the time.
And he was with someone who wasn't his wife.
Let's put it that way.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I'm enjoying the music as well.
Yeah, awesome, yeah.
Hey, did I put that thing up in your Jumbotron i can't remember now oh i did yeah
yeah you might have yeah that's it we're going to introduce interview the founder of peculiars
new project that's minting as well you've probably seen him on the timelines mike yeah
yeah that guy's been building that project now for when he first started,
when it first came into his mind, and he's jotting down notes
and trying to – from then until now, five-year period.
I was kind of thinking, hmm, five-year period.
Well, that predates – that's like 2020.
That predates before NFTs were even mainstream or whatever.
So I do want to chop it up with him and find out
how that album came about.
I think he more started
them to be, I think,
cartoon-type characters that he wanted in an
animation or something.
That could
I was just thinking, because the punks were, what, 2017?
Yeah, and then Bored Ape were April 21.
So if he started this shit in 2020, he's well before that as well.
Yeah.
And then sometime, I don't know if it was before or after the Yetis were.
There's these Yetis that have completely disappeared, but they were NFTs at one point, too, right at the beginning.
So I'm not sure when. I don't remember.
Before CryptoPunks.
No, not before CryptoPunks, but it's either before or after Bored Apes. I don't remember.
I don't even remember those.
Well, right after that, I mean, you're looking at the floodgates,
you know, thousands and thousands and thousands of NFT projects
that are like, you know, where are they now?
Yeah, well, I mean, you know, everybody trying to copy what happened.
Yeah. you know everybody trying to to copy what happened and yeah you can't because it was just a total totally different situation worldwide yeah right time right place all the rest of it and then
something exactly and then you get a couple of celebs buying your shit and then oh fuck the
celebs are buying it i'm gonna try and get some as well and that's the way it works you know now
if celebs came in tomorrow and start buying a load of fucking meals,
well,
then that would change the fucking trajectory of a meals as well.
That is true.
That is true.
Who do I know?
Not well enough.
I don't know anybody well enough.
That's for sure.
Yeah.
Nobody that really cares.
Speed dial there,
man.
Get him to buy one oh classic imagine brad pitt walking around with a fucking you know the paparazzi snap a
photo of him and he's got a t-shirt with an email on it what's that yeah it goes viral
that'd be great placement, man.
Oh, wouldn't it just be, you know?
Of course, you don't need to do that these days.
All you need to do is just get a photograph of Brad in a white t-shirt,
remove whatever he's fucking wearing,
slap him a mail on it, and just make a post about it.
Yeah, you're right. You know, an AI could do that, no problem.
Yeah, I guess that's the problem, right?
Unless it really looks like paparazzi or something everybody's going to assume it's fake
I mean I was talking to Graham Skinner there the other day and he shows me a photograph of
him he was up in Canada somewhere where just one of these actors was and it was it was a it was a
not even a fucking a-list actor it was that guy Oie opie who played that was the carrier's name in um in uh
see sons of anarchy the tv show about the fucking bikers right oh yeah yeah great show so he's a
big great show yes opie he's one of the bigger lads in there he had the beard fucking long hair
at one point in time he got whacked or he killed himself in the show one or the other so uh it was
like he was up there and it was like you know if you wanted a photograph with him oh it was 60 dollars right of course what does graham do hey man i'm a big fan of that show
hey so uh i went in i got a photo with him and hey there it is i said fuck that shit graham you
know i could take your photo right now fucking remove you put me in there and look at that i
got a photo with opiate cost me fuck all you know oh yeah you're right yeah but you don't you don't
have the memory and i said to him i said now listen graham imagine 100 people want had photos
with him that day i mean that's a cash grab from opie there you got fucking six gravity
everybody up one fucking photo you know oh jesus you know? Yep, that's how it works.
There's a woman I work with.
She played Ewoks in Star Wars.
So this past weekend, she went to a convention, you know?
It's pretty crazy.
Yeah, but she played an Ewok.
Is that some kind of furry character?
You can't see her face.
She's in an outfit or something.
Yeah.
Yeah, so who's going to even recognize her?
I mean, really?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I do not know.
I know it's big business, though.
Yeah. It's big business, though. Yeah.
It is big business.
Now, the monster that I played in the horror film hasn't gone anywhere,
so I don't get to go through that.
Yeah.
I want to know which Ewok she was.
Well, I think it was an Ewok.
I'll have to look.
Or I'll just ask her tomorrow.
What are you doing, sir? I don't even know what an ewok is i haven't watched those movies she might have done more than
just that too i don't know google what an ewok looks like oh right okay they're very cute furry
creatures oh look have i seen them oh yes yes wait i have seen them. Totally cute. I'm surprised nobody's made an NFT
collection of Ewoks.
Well, since Disney owns the
Star Wars franchise now, they'd probably
sue the hell out of you.
Or you could just change the E to a T and call them Ewoks.
There's a will, there's a way, huh always a way to get it to get around something you know
bend the rules but don't break them it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission right that's right that's right i mean you know like mike i'm you know i was even in the military
and the shit that i was doing i've always been the. I mean, you know, like, Mike, I was even in the military and the shit that I was doing, I'd always bend the rules to breaking point, you know?
They were almost just about to shatter
and I'd just pull back a little bit.
Okay, I'll go that far.
You might get court-martialed.
You know the deal, Mike, you know?
Last thing you want to do is get court-martialed.
Yeah, take a slap on the wrist from the commander,
but don't get court-martialed
because you'll be ending up in military clink,
not your local fucking clink inside your local unit.
Or as they say in the Navy, the brig, right?
The brig.
The brig.
Obviously, they got them down there in the fucking ships,
even on the old aircraft carriers, you know,
or even on submarines, you know.
What was that movie I watched?
Crimson Tide.
That was a great movie.
Yeah.
Gene Hackman and Denzel Washington.
So that dialogue between hackman and denzel washington so that that dialogue between
hackman and and washington was punched up by uh um quentin tarantino really yeah that's why it's
he wrote that no just that dialogue between those two because that's why it's so good
so he actually wrote that part of it for them yeah because they needed they needed something
to happen and so they called him up and he wrote it that was fantastic that was a fantastic scene
and the actors carried it well gotta say because it must have been difficult for sure 100 you know
uh because you have gene hackman who's having his authority stripped right in front of him, right in front of the men by his XO.
And yeah,
fantastic movie.
Yep.
Now the,
the movie that really portrays a sub commander really,
really well is hunt for red October.
Scott Glenn,
the captain of the Dallas.
Yeah.
That's,
that's a real Navy submarine commander. Yeah yeah or as close as you're gonna get
um yeah scott glenn i seen him the other day in something i think it was the white lotus or
something yeah it was and he looked like a fucking toothpick man he's still alive though i guess
well they are toothpicks.
It's interesting because I think I've said this before, but when I met Terry Gilliam to be considered for the photo double for Brad Pitt in 12 Monkeys,
I was, so I'm just barely, barely under six feet tall.
And I was about 163 pounds.
And Brad walked around at about 155.
And when he did the movie California,
where he looks beefed up,
he weighed 170. To give you an idea what the camera does to you.
So, yeah, they're all stick figures.
What happened?
It's a shame and a pity.
Is anybody still here? Hello? It's a shame and a pity.
It's a shame and a pity.
It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity.
It's a shame and a pity.
It's a shame and a pity.
It's a shame and a pity.
It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity.
It's a shame and a pity.
It's a shame and a pity.
It's a shame and a pity.
It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity.
It's a shame and a pity.
It's a shame and a pity.
It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. It's a shame and a pity. Looks like I lost my speakers and my co-host. Can you guys still hear me?
I can't shake you from my mind.
I can't stop crying.
I can't shake you from my mind.
I think something happened because I couldn't hear anybody.
And it seemed like my phone had frozen.
Wow.
That was weird. Well, maybe it was my fault.
Because my battery dropped below 20%, so I plugged it in.
That's all I did. I don't know. All%, so I plugged it in. That's all I did.
I don't know.
All I did was plug it in.
Apparently that was all it took.
And I was in the middle of a sentence and talking,
and then nobody responded, and I thought, what happened?
I thought that was me.
Okay, I don't understand. I thought that was me. What about?
Okay, I don't understand.
We'll just blame it on X.
That always works.
Yeah.
Blame it on X.
It's X's fault.
Okay.
I, you know what I did? Maybe it was you.
I plugged my phone in.
Really?
And it rugged?
That's all I did.
My battery got into the red, so I thought, okay, I'll plug it in.
So I plugged it in, and then all of a sudden everybody disappeared.
Yeah, that's a little trick as well,
because if your battery starts to go into the red when you're on a're on when you're on a space speaking uh you'll start a robot and you'll rug yourself
but it was only you guys the the audience was still here
yeah but they're not speakers they're not speakers in there they're just they're just
they're just cardboard cutouts in the room all right so what's the last thing you heard
we were talking about well we were I was talking about Scott Glenn.
I said he was 86 years of age.
And rail thin.
And I said I saw him in a TV show there I was watching last week.
And he looked like he was just about to keel over and die.
He looked like he had lost so much weight.
And he just looked like he weighed about 100 pounds.
And so did you hear my response?
No, I did not.
Okay.
So when I was being considered as a photo double for Brad Pitt for 12 Monkeys,
and I met Terry Gilliam, I was, I mean, I'm just under six feet,
barely under six feet.
And I was 163 to 165 pounds, depending on the day.
Yeah.
Brad walks around at about 155.
And we're the same height.
Yeah.
That's how thin they all are.
All of them.
Now, some of them, of course, put on muscle because they're superheroes and all that kind of stuff.
But did you see California, the movie California with Brad?
I did, yeah.
Sadly, yes.
Brad was pretty beefy in that, right?
He looked beefy in that.
Yeah.
He weighed 170.
The camera does strange things Yes it does
That's why everybody is thin
If you're
10 pounds overweight
You either need to lose it
Or gain 20 more
Otherwise you won't work
Unless, well in America
In England they don't seem to care.
They like regular people.
Yeah, they do.
Club size is fine.
You're a fucking supermodel.
Anybody is fine, as long as you're good.
Over here, if you're not a gorgeous model figure
or the funny sidekick who's overweight,
then you don't work.
It's very strange.
Where's Mike gone?
Mike, have we lost you?
Are you there?
Did you unplug and plug things again?
No, I didn't.
I'm here.
You guys hear me?
I can hear you.
Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now?
Can you hear me now?
Are you messing with me, Top Hat?
I was going to say if you're paying attention.
Well, he's not talking, so it must be him.
I'm looking at my NFTs nfts my meals oh yeah
okay so i've got a hater i've got an everyman i've got a lover i have what's this one um powerless
i have i'm tripping out because i just saw two I didn't know I had.
I have Caregiver.
This is one I didn't know I had.
I have a Reformer.
I've got a couple of Reformers that I didn't know I had.
that I wasn't didn't know I had um apparently I meant of that one and
didn't notice it how did I meant to not notice or maybe I just didn't pay
attention to which one it was so I have powerless caregiver conformist,
outlaw,
and lover.
Outlaw you.
Because I bought outlaw and lover yesterday.
This open C2 really sucks man i know i don't care for it at all it's terrible
you know what you can do um see if i can figure it out on my laptop because i did it on my
um okay if you go to the left of your screen, there's a menu that opens.
Yeah.
All the way down to the bottom, it says back to OS1.
Thank God.
And it gets you out of this OS2 mess.
Thank goodness.
There it is. You learned something new, Mike.
I did. I learned something.
What are you guys doing?
What happened there?
I'm teaching Mike how to get back to the old OS because the new one sucks.
Are you guys on iPhones?
No, I'm actually on my laptop now, and it's still showing really crappy.
The space is on the iPhone, but I'm on my desktop
for the computer.
Right.
Yeah.
That's where I'm playing the piece from.
Still waiting for Sir Harles to send me
mine.
Oh, I do
have an innocent.
How did I get an innocent?
I don't know, but my outlaw is going to come over there and kick you.
You know what?
My destroyer is going to come over there and destroy you.
No, my lover will take care of your destroyer.
Can your lover take care of all four destroyers?
Well.
Surround and pounce.
It is my lover, so yeah, probably.
And I'm waiting on a seducer.
Because, well, yeah, it's me.
It's just what I do.
Well, what I did anyway.
Once upon a time.
Oh, yeah.
Hold on, hold on. How come it's trying i have 53 oh that's way more than i have i should have 54 and that doesn't include the ones in my ledger
from the 20 that i burned from the wrong wallet. That's where my destroyers are.
My destroyers are on my ledger.
Yeah.
See, I, I wasn't able to do that.
Why?
Because I don't have as many as you do.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, you know, I could have burned more, but I didn't.
I still have a hundred of my OGs.
That's more than I ever had.
Is it?
I was just fortunate.
And I got tired of losing money in stocks, so I put it on crypts.
There you go.
Exactly, right?
You got to go with a more sure bet of the two.
And stocks just suck.
Mike and Lady, here's a question.
Let's see if you can guess the right answer.
I've never had a large number of NFTs in any one particular project,
but I do now.
And that number is 100 NFTs.
Can you guys guess which project that might be in?
Cyber API Club.
Fuck no.
I wish I did.
That's a shitload, man.
No, no, no, Mike.
No, no, no.
Bored API Club.
Jeez, yeah.
I wouldn't have one in my life
because I wouldn't say no if I won one.
Yeah, I'd be flogging that.
I'd be selling that.
I'd be getting out of debt.
But no, no, no.
It's actually the HC Hogs.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. Which no no it's actually the hc hogs oh yeah of course which one is it hostile crypto hogs the hc hogs oh and the only reason for that is because uh i only i
only ever minted those when they when they had promos going on when they had you know mint one
and get another two free type thing and i got i won some in competitions and on some giveaways on
spaces so i've never sold one since I got one last year.
I think about almost a year ago.
Yeah, coming up on a year.
June last year was my first hug.
That makes sense.
I have zero of those.
Oh, God, Lady Magic.
What you doing there, gal?
Now, listen, here's what they're gonna do because
they realize that we do have a few lady hogs in there i mean female holders so they're gonna uh
they're doing a bit of revamping
no i better not give to give too much weight but they're gonna look cool body-wise they're
gonna look really great think along the lines of tomb raider type all weapons and
a bit of a hoggy face you know trying to make the nose like look nice and shit
like that and uh you know give them decent hairstyles but there will be female hogs because
we do have female holders and uh you know most of the hogs obviously they're all fucking male hogs
and um they all got male male um traits and shit like that so So the founders in there said to themselves, let's make
some lady hugs so we can
make our female holders happy.
And not a lot of projects do that.
They don't have variations.
Well, that's sweet.
It's nice to be
recognized
as such
because we are so often mistaken to be men.
Wait.
Which really bites, but that's the way this space is.
So, yeah.
Wait, you're not a man?
What?
I thought I told you, Mike.
Darn it.
I mean, I can talk cars and Ethereum mining and stupid things women do to look good with the best of you guys.
And on the reverse of that, I can talk emotions and makeup.
I know, right?
My husband says I don't have any of those.
I can tell you what Irish women do to look good just drink more pints of guinness that way you guys look through this well you guys too yeah we don't have
there's no homes over there for for battered wives they're for battered husbands
that's bad no that's good man the mouthy husbands get bashed by the wives
that's so funny Irish women are tough man I'm telling you they're tough they're tough
I saw this um there was this uh comedian that had invited a guest up on stage to tell a joke
and the first joke he told was a joke that his child's son had told him.
But the second joke that he told had to do, he was Indian, and it had to do with Irish and Indians.
And he had the accents perfect. It was so funny.
Oh, you had an Indian stand-up comedy guy doing an Irish accent.
Yeah, but he wasn't a comedian.
He was just somebody out of the audience
that they asked to come up and tell a joke.
Yeah, and he was just hilarious.
I saw that on stage
and told more jokes and told a comedian
to fox-trod Oscar.
I know, right?
But the guy was good.
His voices were so spot on. there was a joke where he had to
use um he had to use green yellow and pink in a sentence they had these two guys and they were
like auditioning for the same thing and um they told him to use the three words in a sentence
and he used two different voices completely And he used the words pronounced two completely different ways.
Or all three words were pronounced different ways.
So it was just funny as all heck.
He's had some training.
He's had some training.
Yeah, he had training.
Or maybe he's just, you know, when he's at dinner parties or something,
or he's been the class joker in school growing up and stuff like that.
Because obviously he wasn't even, he had a lot of confidence you don't get up oh yeah in front of a big audience shit you know
uh most people wouldn't even get up on that stage even even if their wives were saying go on up
get on you can do that you know do that trick you do in the bedroom
well you know what I mean. Whatever.
Get arrested.
Yeah.
You know, keep it family clean.
Oh, dude.
You're funny.
See, now, only this woman can you joke like that.
Yeah.
I am my father's daughter.
What can I say?
Daughter of a sailor.
Well, I'll tell you what.
I am going to Las Vegas in October, Mike. Believe it or not. I've never been
there. Nice.
I just looked up flights there today
flying from Manila
to Las Vegas and back to Manila.
$713.
That's just a bargain, man.
I mean, that's a long-haul flight.
For you? Yeah.
Yeah, but round trip, it's cheap long haul flight. For you? Yeah.
Yeah, but round trip, it's cheap.
That's extremely cheap.
Is it?
Well, yeah.
I'm going to fly across the whole of the Pacific.
I've got to fly right over Playa.
Playa's down there in fucking Guam.
I'll wave to him if I'm flying over.
Playa, what you doing out there, man?
That would be a blast.
When are you coming?
It's October. It's October.
It's October.
In between October 8 to about, I'll probably do about 10 days there. I got to look up also the schedule for Imagine Dragons.
I want to get tickets for that.
I want to see them live.
That's cool.
One of my favorite bands has been since they came out with their first songs way back.
We used to play their songs in Iraq and all that when we're rolling around uh you know fuel us up whatever and uh yeah and they're
they live there so they do a lot of shows there so hopefully i'll catch one of them in october
uh that's awesome yeah so i fly into lax mike and then it's only like a hop skip and a jump
there i mean you can even fucking drive from there going up there but uh the ticket includes um change planes hop onto
american airlines and uh iron 20 minutes you're in vegas 45 minutes you're in vegas is that all it is
yeah oh i look okay i was looking at the itinerary there that's probably what getting on the plane
buckling up going through the safety brief, wheels down, getting off the plane.
By the time I'm out there, I'm not bringing any fucking luggage anyway.
I just got to bring a backpack and that's it.
In and out.
Well, that's great.
And I think Code Compiler is going to pay for the rooms.
So we're all fucking sorted there, man.
It's his birthday.
It's his birthday, man.
Oh, it is.
Oh, okay. He does his birthday in vegas every year he just goes up there for a few days chill out
that's it you know okay i didn't know that was happening that's awesome yeah so a lot of a lot
of the unreal kingdoms people will be heading there as well most of them are in the united
states anyway so it's not it's not a big deal for them to head down there that's kind of funny mike you know i looked at the uh the same flight right
philippine airlines flying to lax and last week i looked at one going to um phoenix arizona and it
was 1600 you know but it seems like a lot of traffic goes into vegas so they can fill up the
planes there no problem and the ticket prices seem to be a lot less.
Yeah.
Because Phoenix is not all that far from
LAX.
It's like about an hour and a half, right?
Flight-wise or something?
It's close to the same
as Vegas.
Look at the prices. An extra $900
to go to Phoenix.
Well, they want you to go to vegas exactly
they want your money give me your money sell your soul we want your we want juniors college fund
on the poker tables let's go yep well that's really interesting i might be able to make it
out there let's go mike let's go listen mike i'm not a fucking drinker so i won't be falling around
drunk or anything like that um but a few places i do want to see out there i want to go down that
jn or y thing as well have a look at what their setup is there yeah journey yeah his
yeah his art museum for sure um you know what else i want to do in vegas is i want to see pen
and teller okay what kind of show do they put on? Magic.
It's a magic show.
Okay.
Lady Magic.
Check that shit out.
Yeah.
Now, Lady Magic, have you ever been to Vegas?
I got married in Vegas.
That's funny as fuck, son of a little sister.
Oh, she eloped there with her Irish fucking husband.
Husband now.
Because my father would not give her away to this guy he said that guy's a loser he's 10 years older than you
you're only 19 you shouldn't be getting married now you're too young and she said
you i'm an adult i'll do whatever i want as a matter of fact we're going to vegas whole family's
going there you're not invited and uh yeah she went off my brothers uh my brother and my sister
my mother and all
them were there and the the abby's the cousins the whole lot i was in afghanistan i couldn't go
there uh i wanted to go but i didn't um i couldn't make it should i say and yeah she got married and
then my old man just got left home alone all by himself uh fucker couldn't fry an egg to save his
life and he's like oh fuck this i'm going to a pub so he just went to the pub every day they came
back they said they had a wonderful time.
He felt left out.
And then he says, you know what?
I've changed my mind.
I'll put on a wedding reception for you here.
All's forgiven.
And she says, no, no, you're not the one to do the forgiving.
You know, like I may decide to forgive you for not forgiving me away when I wanted to have a wedding in Ireland,
but I had to go to fucking Vegas instead. And she says,
then a week later, she says, okay, I'll take you up on your offer,
Dad. We had a great time in Vegas.
You wouldn't have liked it anyway, even though you're a gambler.
Blah, blah, blah.
So it was all funny at the end of the day.
Typical Irish family shit, you know?
Jeez.
Mine was planned.
So we got married
at the same chapel as Jon Bon Jovi.
Well, you know what?
I don't know if my sister got married there,
but she went to one of these famous little chapels.
Could have been that one.
I don't know.
And that's where she got married.
And they've been married ever since.
And I mean, when she got married, I think it was like,
oh, was it 20, 30, nearly 30 years ago or something?
I don't know.
Yeah.
No, hang on.
I was in Afghanistan, 2002.
Yeah, 2002 she got married.
So, yeah, it's going back a bit.
But she enjoyed it.
They went down.
Now, Mike, I don't know where this place is, but she did show me pictures where she's standing overlooking the Grand Canyon.
And I think it was some – is it that glass?
You can look through the glass and you can see down when you're standing up or something.
Yeah.
Yes. Give us some, is it that glass? You can look through the glass and you can see down when you're standing up or something. Yeah. Yeah.
Sweet.
Is that near Vegas or is that you have to travel as far to go to that place?
What is the Grand Canyon?
Is it an hour and a half maybe?
I don't know.
I've never been.
That's not far.
Really?
I mean, the roads are half decent out there.
There's no traffic on them.
You're out in the middle of the desert.
I want to go see Area 51 or something like that.
No, they won't let us in, Mike.
The aliens.
Well, show us them aliens, man. We know
they're here. There are no aliens here,
really. There are none.
They've shipped them all out.
I know some people that have seen them that work
for DARPA as well. Mike, you know
what DARPA is? Yeah, it's from the
TV show Lost.
Yeah, it was a real DARPA as well. Mike, you know what DARPA is? Yeah, it's from the TV show Lost. Yeah, it was a real DARPA.
They might have rechanged the name of it now
or they might have defunded it and broke it up.
But DARPA was a very, very real thing.
And some of the programs they were working on
were a bit dodgy as well, you know?
Yeah.
Where's the Senate approval for these budgets?
Oh, don't worry about that.
Just get back to your desk, bro.
Yep.
Well, hell.
So what else is there to do in Vegas, Mike?
You know, and don't say gambling.
I'm not doing that.
Shows.
Shows, concerts.
Shows, yes.
Shows, I'm up for shows.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, there's tons of shows in Vegas.
Tons of shit.
Definitely. I like the Stque Salation as well.
Anything to do with the acrobatic type stuff,
I like watching that shit as well.
They've had some amazing shows.
Yeah, Cirque is there.
Usually they have some kind of artist in residence,
some band or solo artist or something.
Yeah.
Now, what's that new thing they have there?
It's a big thing.
I forget the name of it.
The sphere.
Yes.
What's that all about?
Well, it's a theater inside.
I know that.
And there might be more inside as well.
But the entire exterior is whatever they want it to be.
They play all kinds of stuff on it um it's absolutely
amazing it's like a giant computer okay right interesting
because obviously i don't know if you know you know you know sid from nifty's world he's building
a 10-story building down there at the end of the strip he's already got the land yeah i heard him
talk about that for a minute yeah i was on his space earlier on he was talking a bit about it
there as well so uh he'll be there in vegas for that event as well when we're going down there
uh graham and visit and all them from the hogs will be down there all the bedtime nft people
will be down there um i think a lot of the projects that are associated with the unreal kingdoms
they're all them founders will be down there as well so it'll be a quite a good get together
and you know because normally you only you only listen to these people on spaces you don't see
them face to face you don't know what they look like you know i mean when i walk into the place
down there they're not gonna be a no they're not even gonna know who i am i can just walk right
past the whole lot of them they wouldn't even know if I start opening my mouth.
Then they'll fucking know.
Yep.
So you're saying you don't look Irish?
I do.
But you see,
the thing is,
you know,
I put on a business suit there and fucking just walk past them,
like in the hotel.
They wouldn't even know.
And I'd say,
I put on a German act.
Excuse me.
Can you tell me where the bar is?
Yeah.
Fuck off, you crap. you know and i'd say i put on a german act excuse me can you tell me where's the bar is yeah next thing to hear conor mcgregor type voice and they're like holy shit stop that you know or i'll just stick it on my head you know
flip off my shirt and i'm wearing an unreal kingdoms t-shirt with a fucking irish coffee logo on it no i'm looking forward to it mike so if you
i mean i know ape fest is on down there this year as well what what month is that kicking in well
it's uh october 24th oh that's after it yeah okay okay yeah because i know i know drew's birthday i
think is october 11 or 10 or 11 something like that so obviously i want to get
there a few days well at least three days before so i can recover from the jet lag get my circadian
rhythm back in some working order uh to be able to sleep and get up at the right time of day etc
and uh yeah no my main goal there is obviously uh to meet a few people and then see a concert or two
there is obviously to meet
a few people and then see a concert or two.
That sounds great.
I'm definitely going to see if I can make it.
Awesome. Awesome.
Awesome.
Two trips to Vegas in
October. I'm up for it.
You can handle it. Mike, you've probably
got a lot of vacation days accrued
there from your workplace.
You can just stack them up
and say, hey, I'm taking this period off. See ya.
So I don't have a lot, but
I have enough set aside.
Yeah.
Now, when you fly to airports,
Mike, you just flash your TSA badge and you get
some privileges or what?
No. No, no, no.
No. You have to follow
what everybody else follows.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
But I have pre-checks, so I don't have to take my shoes off or stuff like that.
Yeah.
But, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I'll be – I think the only thing I got to get before I fly there is an Esther, which one of our guys from – one of our holders from ODP, he's the coffee guy.
He is from the Netherlands.
He had flights and hotels, everything paid for in Art Basel last December.
And he hops on the plane in, where the fuck is he?
He was in Germany, in Munich.
He hopped on a plane in Munich.
He had to fly from, for some reason, I don't know,
he had to fly from Amsterdam to Munich to get a plane to the US.
And then he says to him, when he's checking in in Munich, he says munich's oh well uh yeah no you you can't go to the us you don't have an ester you're not
getting on board the plane we'll get fired or something like that and uh i was amazed he was
that dumb that he wouldn't know i mean it's not the first time he's been in the states or something
like that because once you get an ester it lasts a few years you don't have to get one for every
flight that you go on you know i mean i had one before i think it lasted i don't know 10 years maybe i
can't remember um but um yeah i got it when i was i was i flew from afghanistan to um washington dc
for a wedding in 2006 and i just had the s that printed out and that was it i just showed that
and that was it no no issues interesting i mean previous to previous to
them having an esther i mean with an irish passport i could just go to the states anyway
right and it's because it's part of the visa waiver program uh irish passports yeah things
have changed a little bit yeah but you know and at the end of the day mike you know it doesn't
even cost anything to get
an esther you know it's fucking free you just print the thing out and you bring it with you
and you're all you're sorted okay that's good it's just kind of like they are pre-valentating
who you are because you go into their system because you have to have your passport number
on it your data bird all your particulars you know they'll run it into their system
and then you'll you'll get the esther thing and you're good to go. All right. That's not bad. That's like, I mean, that's
what you got to do for pre-check and stuff here. So yeah. I mean, an ESTA, I mean, all it stands
for is like electronic security travel authority or something like that. That's what it means.
Yeah. See, that's all border patrol so yeah
that uh people confuse tsa with border patrol all the time
no yeah i don't know why you know to me it's so well i know what tsa is you know
um i've been to enough airports there in the u.s and you guys wear the blue shirts right
yeah yeah yeah yeah I've been to enough airports there in the US and you guys wear the blue shirts, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. very nice mike that music's gonna put me to sleep in a minute
it's soothing it's soothing it's soothing and relaxing
yeah it's a nice vibe, man.
Yeah, here's me at lunchtime nodding off.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, so, Mike, I'm actually one away now, one away from another Silverback.
Oh, really?
Yeah. away now one away from another silverback oh really yeah i was mad i didn't win a rolex so
i thought i'd floor everything what do you mean you didn't win a rolex what do you mean floor
everything you floored everything no you didn't no way of course not listen mike i don't know
now if there's one listen mike now if there's one more one more hunt and you want to go in i'll go havers with you we'll go 250. uh when is that i don't know
because we don't know when it will pop up uh i think i think he think he might do something this
week um but uh i'll let you know or else listen mike i mean even even if it's um if you want to
get more apes out of her or something i'll'll just go in, you know, 100 with you.
You go 400, and you just give me a fucking ape when you get it, because that's all I need for my third silverback, and I'm good.
Wow.
I mean, that last, the last one I went into, that last one the other day, we walked away with it.
I walked away with a gorilla and another cake, a base one.
Wait, the one from a couple of days ago.
Yeah. Yeah.
There's a cake and a gorilla.
No, no. You see, I, I did it. I did a, um, I did it.
I did a 50 50 with somebody else. And then med says, well, fuck,
it's five and four. How am I going to divide that up?
and four how am i going to divide that up and then he says it i'll just send an extra cake
And then he says, fuck it. I'll just send an extra cake.
so he said uh he sent um two um two rarities so each of us we got a rarity of two cakes each
um which which amount of the five base apes uh realistically because he couldn't he couldn't he
couldn't split a gorilla which was nine right so i? So for the $250, that's what I got.
And then for the $500, I got a gorilla.
Okay.
Gorilla.
Because I saw a gorilla ended up in my wallet.
Yeah, that was for the $500, gorilla.
Yeah.
And then anybody that did the split, the $250 split,
because he couldn't split a gorilla how can you
split a gorilla but i had already worked it out with eric who went in with me i says look eric
here's what we're gonna do i'll take the five uh you take the four and i'll throw in 55 each back
to you as well because that's the way to split would have worked you know uh because they worked at about 55 55 50 55 eight uh based on
getting a gorilla uh which is nine cakes uh for 500 bucks right and he was happy with that and
then med says oh fuck it i'll just show you guys another fucking uh ape make it even
i mean man's head must have been exploding because he's the only one doing all his incubation shit
of course of course but now i think i'll be pretty well uh positioned when i get one more
fucking silverback that's three silverbacks which um let's see 27 27 27 oh that's 81 cakes if you
break them down into cakes but it's kind of it's. But it's kind of good with all this incubation ship
because people are less likely to throw a base ape on the floor
of all the shits incubated because nobody's going to buy a gorilla.
It's too expensive.
Even a rarity, too expensive also.
I don't think I have any rarities.
I think I've got a silverback and a gorilla and maybe six or seven cakes.
Okay, so you've got one silverback.
So you've got one gorilla and you've got six or seven cakes, you say?
I think so, yeah.
Right, so you're close to a second gorilla basically
pretty close right right i need like two or three more two or three more will get you a second
gorilla and then uh on top of that i guess one more one if they go if they go hell if they go
out guns blazing with one last big hoorah uh they're just going to give shit away. They don't really care,
especially if all the downloads are on the public thing for them.
Because right now the downloads are being throttled by the console operators.
Isn't that what happened the hunt before this one?
I mean, didn't people get like 16 or something?
Yeah, but I got 20
because he threw me some extra for doing
all the fucking spaces uh which was nice i wasn't expecting it i just i said to him i says i think
you gave me too much he says no i don't think i did uh okay i mean code ain't that stupid yo
code's not gonna go like wait a minute i gave you i gave you four cakes too much. Can you send four back to me? I'd be like, sorry, I already incubated them.
Fuck you, man.
No, but I was waiting.
I says, wait a minute.
I did say to him, I think too many went out.
He says, no, some people got more because they deserved it for what they're doing.
And no, it's all good.
We know what we sent out.
I says, Roger that.
Say no more.
Yep.
I'm not going to say anything else.
No, don't look a gift horse
in the mouth, you know. Just pat it on the head
and say, thank you, horsey.
That's right.
That's right, man.
That's right.
Man.
Okay.
So also Digger, my buddy
Digger down there, he can't mention anything
about this to his wife uh he's ended up so far with um two gorillas right now so
he might go in on another final hunt because he now understands what a silverback does and he's
like oh fucking hell mate i gotta see what i can do uh, I'll get back to you.
Uh... Uh...
Before you need me, there's something
I've got to say.
Let me tell you about it.
You know, my daughter, I texted her lady magic i texted her uh because she works near
near uh game stop and i and i said hey you know when you're off work can you check and
see if they have any of those uh those v friends so she did and they sold out this afternoon
that quick huh oh yeah how much were they well i mean the chromes were 139 and then i think the
other box was like 35 or something um so yeah, I don't have any.
What are they, Mike?
Are they like trading cards?
From VFriends.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No VFriends.
Trading cards.
What?
Are they trading cards?
Yeah, from Topps. It was a...
Yeah.
I think this is our first release with Topps.
Yeah.
And I went to... When i was at work today i took
lunch early and i drove to a card shop that was on the list to receive them to see if they had them
and the guy told me that they were still on the truck that they hadn't been delivered yet
and he's been waiting for him for like two days
and then he turns around and says just casually like yeah when they get here
they'll probably be like 400 bucks or so i was like oh
yeah i know right so i mean wait a minute is that the retail price that's
no the retail price is 140 right and you not buy them on online from
online places oh i'm sure you can
right now but it's going to cost you three or four hundred bucks oh shit man it's for a block
yeah so people are people are fucking uh raping up the price a bit they're racking up the price
so because if you had a an original series one v friends you got it for free and then today was the public release and
they even had a public sale online at tops but it sold out really quick and then they had a an
auction going on on tops online today and that obviously sold out too.
All of this happened when I was at work.
I was speaking a few times on Riley Barker's marathon
space that he was doing for the
VFriends. He was supposed
to go 60 days with that.
I don't think he lasted 60 days. I think he burned himself
out or something.
It was supposed to finish
yesterday, May 7.
Did I rug again?
Mike, are you there?
I don't hear music. I think Mike rugged.
Yeah, I don't hear the music.
It just went dead.
Yeah.
Yep, there it is.
It's back.
Do you hear me?
I hear you now, Mike.
I thought I heard a glass fall on the floor.
Did you knock your drink over?
No, I closed X.
Jesus Christ, man.
Put your glasses on.
Move that finger away from the button.
I forgot.
I've done that before, man.
I've done that before.
I'm like, I'm like, I'm looking up.
I'm on a space.
I'm talking.
I'm like, I'm going to close some of these tabs.
I might get rugged.
And then I closed the tab that the fucking space was on.
I said, shit, rugged myself.
Yeah. Fortunately, they give you that 60 seconds to get back in so yeah they do yeah yeah yeah oh is it 60 seconds only yeah oh i thought you i thought it was more than that no i think it's
that's not it was less than that i think it's at the most 60 seconds it might be less i'm not sure
you know mike you can have you can have the host account open on two devices,
and you'll save yourself that way as well.
Chris tried to do that.
I did it by accident one time, and I was amazed.
I closed it down on one.
I said, holy shit, it's still going.
Oh, wow, that's great.
What the heck is going on here? Yeah haven't tried that yet don't try it mike maybe it was just a
fluke for me uh but uh i don't know how or why but it was still going on the other other
because i had it on a desktop and a laptop at the same time
man here i was here i was saying i wasn't hosting i madman was hosting under the irish coffee account
uh over in the u.s and i i had it just opened on the irish coffee account here at my end
and when he closed it down i uh i said we weren't going to go for five hours right
it's lunchtime how many hours are we at four and a half
mike i feel guilty bailing out just leaving you here but you know i'm really hungry i uh
i gotta take a couple of hosts out for lunch.
I did promise them lunch last week, and they didn't get their lunch yet.
They're like, when lunch?
When lunch?
When is lunch, by the way?
Lunch is right now.
It's 12 noon for me, so I'm going to be getting lunch here in the next 30 minutes.
I'm going to go down to the old Kenny Roasters, Rogers Roasters.
Oh, you guys Roasters. Oh,
you guys have those. Yeah, they're all over the place
here, man. They're like fucking pop-up
fucking stores everywhere. We just got a new one.
We just got a new drive-thru near us.
And they're so cheap. It's unbelievable.
I don't know how much they are in the US,
but you can go in there and get a meal for like
five bucks here.
Well, that's not bad.
Yeah, that's like, know chicken the the while you get rice here with it you get your veggies and your potatoes and
your side dish things and all the rest of it you can do your add-ons if you want but that's
just the base meal uh five dollars basically in the equivalent thereof
that's cool costs a lot more here oh i'm sure it does you know i mean you got to look at a food
here wise especially in um um fast food joints or whatever it's a lot cheaper than they will be in
the u.s you know i mean you get a mcdonald's here for like three bucks you know
yeah and you probably have real food too i don't know know. I wouldn't even class McDonald's as real food.
I don't eat anything in there.
I don't go to the Burger King's, the McDonald's, the Taco Bell's,
all of the normal Burger King's.
They have all that shit here.
I just don't go to it.
I mean, if you go to Kenny's, you're getting real chicken basically.
I can consume that.
You're getting real potatoes and vegetables and stuff.
Well, if you go to those places in in england i know it's real
food um because they've outlawed in europe probably most of europe too because they've
outlawed all the crap that we have over here in the u.s yeah um well i don't know what they've
outlawed over there in europe because i don't go to europe and i can't stand europe i've been all
over europe and i hate europe and i might go to Europe and I hate Europe. And I might go to Ireland this later on.
Actually, I might go to Ireland after Vegas for a quick trip.
Fly back that way.
I'll have to work that out.
See how that works on that plane fare wise.
Because I haven't been able to get back to Ireland since before COVID,
obviously.
And I have to see the old lady before she pops her fucking clogs.
So, yeah.
Well, I was going to say, Top Hat,
that Europe has nice things to say about you.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
I know.
It's open, C-Files.
How did I do this before?
Cancel.
The last time I was in Europe, Mike,
I was in...
I'm going to save this shit.
I'm having trouble. What's up, Lady Magic?
I'm trying to
I didn't realize my mic was on. I'm trying to get these
images, GIFs of the
emails saved into my file on my computer. And I did it successfully
like five times.
And now with these last couple, it's giving me issue.
It's just, I must be getting tired.
I've been, it's been a long day.
Okay.
Save it for another time.
Shoot.
Yeah.
And the boy's waiting for me to make his pizza again, too.
I am going to be the homemade pizza queen.
That's for sure.
You can't beat homemade pizzas.
Well, they're they're cheater because I don't make the crust or anything.
I buy the stuff it's just
that we shopped for specific items and red labels and got the healthier items yeah yeah i mean the
topics you put healthy topics i mean you can buy decent crusts as well i mean you can get the
whole grain ones the whole grain ones they're healthy full of fiber um yeah i mean i don't
eat any white bread or white sugar or white fucking flour or white anything.
Anything bleached, yeah.
I don't eat white rice.
They eat it over here like it's gone out of fashion.
If a Filipino missed a fucking meal of his white rice, and they have it for breakfast as well,
if they miss one of them meals, man, their fucking brain just dies, you know?
And they're powered by white rice, and that's true.
I heard what's in the rice, so I don't eat it now.
It's just a little starch and shit, you know?
No, that's not what I'm talking about.
Oh, no, what are you talking about?
Come out, spill the beans.
Somebody looked at it under a microscope and it had bugs in it,
so I don't eat them now.
The funny thing is you don't need a microscope to see the bugs in the rice.
They are in there.
They're nutritious when you boil them.
A little bit of extra.
No, thank you.
They just form in the rice.
Even if you buy a sealed bag of rice, vacuum sealed or whatever, the bugs will survive in there.
They're tiny little things.
They don't do you any harm.
And you just boil the shit up in a rice cooker.
Rice has bacteria in it, my son said.
Right.
Brown rice.
I usually eat a mix of brown and red rice or multigrain. Red rice.
Or multigrain rice, which is a mix of the red and the black rice. It's all in one bag.
And a lot of people don't like it because like, oh, that's too crunchy. Oh, it's hurting my
stomach or whatever. Well, because I'm not used to it, but it's full of fiber. You'll get that.
That is just jam packed with fiber.
And you don't even need to eat a lot of it to feel full.
You know, a one cup size of it because of the fiber is going to make you feel really full.
There's anything that you eat that doesn't have a lot of fiber in it.
You're going to have to eat a lot of it.
It'll make you feel bloated for a bit.
And then you're going to be starving and you're going to feel weak afterwards.
Yeah.
The reason it makes their stomach hurt is because
their bodies actually have something to digest and it causes extra gas exactly yeah yeah exactly
like welcome to natural food hello yeah yeah so mainly my diet my diet basically on a daily
basis is a high fiber diet i usually have these cachava shakes that are,
that come from South America.
They're mixed in South America and they're chock full of vitamins.
It's got like four or five different mushrooms in it.
It's got probiotics,
multivitamins,
prebiotics.
It's got everything in it.
Yeah.
Have you tried them?
Have you also considered,
have you ever tried wheat,
wheat grass?
I have, and I don't and I'm not a sheep.
You're not what?
I'm not a sheep.
I can't handle all the greens.
It's a superfood, basically.
Exactly.
If people don't like the taste of it,
they can just throw it in a blender with some bananas
or anything else that they want.
A fucking yogurt in there as well.
Blend it all up and just fucking horse it back, you know.
It still gets into your system.
It still does what it's supposed to do.
And it's an incredible energy booster as well.
I steer clear of all these energy drink type things
because they're not good for you at all.
Sodas are not good.
Yeah, energy drinks are definitely not good for you.
Anything with corn fructose syrup in it, stay well away from that.
Exactly.
All the nasty things.
Exactly.
And all those cooking oils that everybody uses.
Yeah.
To have olive.
Typically for me, high fiber diet makes me feel full.
Don't need to eat a lot.
And I'm fucking hyperactive as it is anyway.
I'm a very high metabolism.
You never would have guessed that.
That just comes from all the fucking army and shit.
Because it just stays with you.
And, you know, I've just always been an active and outdoorsy type person.
And that's it.
That's it.
That's the way I roll.
That's why you have your energy.
Oh, that's right.
You know, that's how you get it.
I have to mention my only
i don't drink uh so my only vice is the bulletproof coffee two liters a day sometimes a little bit
more and that just keeps me going yeah i wouldn't recommend that sounds good that amount when they
start off they'd probably die uh but uh oh probably but the thing is lady i, use the dark roast beans. Use dark
roast because dark roast has less acidity
and less caffeine.
Okay. Yeah, I usually use
as dark a roast as I can get because I just like it better.
I like the flavor you get
from a dark roast as well.
So yeah, 100%.
I put coconut oil.
Ladies and gentlemen, with that, I bid
you adieu at leaving the the room and uh we're
going for lunch hi mark arrivederci arrivederci and ciao baby yeah it's probably time to close the space anyway. We're talking in tongues now.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's been great.
I appreciate everybody that was here and talking, listening, whatever.
It's been amazing.
Just another hangout.
It's kind of fun, right?
It is.
It is.
Which is why we do this.
We don't have to worry about pleasing anybody.
We don't have to worry about saying the right things or the wrong things or anything like that.
It's just hanging up. We never do that, Mike.
Well, Mike, this is my fourth space today.
So I think that I'm going to call it a day and not go into any more spaces.
Sounds good.
You should not.
You should go eat lunch.
Enjoy your day. Get some sun. That's what I'm going to do, not. You should go eat lunch. Enjoy your day.
Get some sun. That's what I'm gonna
do, brother. See y'all later.
Alright, see you time.
Yeah, it's been
good. It has. It's been a nice
space.
I like the free
form of it and the music and everything
and so. And so.
Yeah.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you for being here.
Without you here, I wouldn't be here because it's Mike's space.
It's happy hour.
It is happy hour.
And I am thrilled to be your backup bartender
Yeah
Alright
Well
I'm just going to turn the music up a little bit
Play us out of here
Guys have a great night, thank you
Santa Barbara
Barbara Santa Barbara Oh Santa Barbara
I love you
I love you
Honey
Oh You I love you. Honey, now you, oh, you are them ones.
Put your arms around me, baby, like they circle around the sun.
Circle around the sun.
Circle around the sun. I want to holler, holler Baby, hear me when the show me
