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HBAR Open Mic - Kabiplaza #132 🎙️
Recorded: Sept. 11, 2025 Duration: 1:28:48Space Recording
Short Summary
In a vibrant discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the rapid growth of NFT projects like Bad Birds, the strategic partnerships enhancing visibility for SaucerSwap, and the anticipated launch of new tokens and projects in the Hedera ecosystem, including Bamboonji's Red Panda NFTs. The conversation also touched on the potential approval of HBAR-backed ETFs, signaling increasing institutional interest in crypto assets.
Full Transcription
Thank you. See what? See what? See what? See what? See what? See what? See what? See what? See what? Thank you. so Oh, my God. Thank you. all right all right let's go welcome back everybody to copy plaza this is episode 132 um yeah so let's get some more people up in here uh straight away so like the post uh
like like the space i'm sorry repost it leave a comment and the comment can be anything that
you'd like to share ask uh just something that's on your mind if you happen to have minted some
bad birds show them in the comments.
I'm still excited from that mint.
It went really fast.
So the, well, wait, we're going to talk about the bad birds later.
I actually want to invite Fageda as well, their community manager.
I've seen Clastora in the audience as well.
I know that you are doing a space with Hasheshpack later today talking about Glastora.
If you don't want to front run that, I'd understand.
If you do want to come up and talk a little bit about Glastora again,
then you're more than welcome to do so.
And if you want to come up to not talk about Glastora,
it's also fine.
So, all right then.
I'm seeing that we've got SalsaSwap on stage.
And at the same time, I was wondering where Brandon was at. But I got a feeling we've got Brandon. Yes, we've got Brandon with the SaucerSwap account. Nice. This is new. Yeah. So is it actually Brandon?
So is it actually Brandon?
It is.
It is.
I know you guys probably have heard that I'm representing SaucerSwap in a lot of different places.
Got some exciting stuff coming up.
I actually just got invited to go on Paul Barron in October again.
So I'm going to be wearing the SaucerSwap hat, but of course, as always, representing the whole ecosystem.
Nice. Okay, so, yeah, maybe just let's just zoom in a little bit on that.
What's your, what are your responsibilities in the, with SosserSwap?
And also, I saw they've been, they are still looking for someone for another position, right?
I think that's still open.
And how do you think that will bind in with what you're doing at Saucerswab?
Yeah, so Peter over at Saucerswab laid out what they were looking for.
Peter over at SaucerSwap laid out what they were looking for.
And I told him that I think that probably at first I said the best thing that I can do for you guys is to continue what I'm doing.
You know, cover the entire Hedera ecosystem, continue with the DeFi corners with Brady.
And it's probably not the right fit, even though it's out of the different things that I've been asked to do over the past couple of years.
It was one that was pretty close.
So then I went back to him eventually and I said, you know what I can do?
Because part of the job description was for, you know, just general outreach and somebody to represent them on interviews and spaces and everything else.
and spaces and everything else. So I said, maybe you could still look for the other portion of
what you're looking for, which is around analytics and figuring out where they should look and still
try to find somebody full time. But in the meantime, I could help out with a portion of
your job description and fill that role of kind of representing SaucerSwap in some of those
different mediums. So that's pretty much the mantle that I've taken on.
And they were already kind of helping out a little bit with DeFi Corner.
So that's just kind of all been rolled into one.
So yeah, that's where we stand right now.
Nice.
Cool.
So yeah, I'm really excited for you to help them as well.
And, yeah, I don't know if you saw it, but there were some rumors going around.
You probably cannot really get into this, but rumors are going around
that SOS might be getting a Kraken listing shortly.
And I'm just throwing it out there. I actually don't know anything about it. I know,
of course, they're always looking at centralized exchange listings. They're focusing on a lot of
different areas. It's not an easy operation to run when you look at it. And of course, it's a small
team, but they're doing a great job. I don't know anything specifically about what centralized exchanges might be coming online
no no all right um i'll just um i'll just put the post mentioning that in the uh in the comments below so people can check it out would be cool i think uh a proper uh centralized exchange listing for SaaS is kind of overdue.
So yeah, it would be nice to get it going with the HCS tokens.
And yesterday, actually, we were on the space, the Dejan hours from the XRPL guys.
Every Wednesday, they are co-hosting with Will now.
And Charles just so happened to join us in the conversation,
which was really cool.
And the way he spoke about retail on Hedera.
And yeah, it was a good conversation
because on the XRPL,
they're experiencing basically exactly
what we were experiencing.
What is it like a year ago, maybe longer already um and so it was
really good to hear him talk about the the retail ecosystem and how they see the value of that and
he also mentioned that uh yeah a big aspect of growing the retail ecosystem is getting HCS tokens on those exchanges. So, yeah, maybe we'll see something happen in Q4.
All right, let's get started with welcoming everybody on stage.
Patrick, how are you doing?
Fine, very well.
I'll have three things to say.
Usually you ask me, what do you have on your mind? So
I have to post that question for you now. Four things, actually. I think that's amazing,
Brendan, that you're representing SaucerSwap. So that was a surprise for me as well. Awesome.
That was number four. Number three, I did the mint as well, but we're going to, and everyone knows what mint I'm talking about, of course.
But what I loved so much about it, and I did not see that before on Kabila, that you can scroll down and you can see live what's being minted.
I love that.
I was enjoying that so much.
So that's my second subject.
That's my second subject.
Third subject.
Third subject.
So we are, in our game, we have animals that you can kind of summon.
Summon is the word for that.
And then I saw one of my builders sent me a post that two days ago,
guess what?
Nintendo has a patent now on summoning in certain ways.
How weird is that? How can you patent summoning in certain ways. How weird is that?
How can you patent summoning in gameplay?
So now I need to look with Quint and what we can and can't do.
So that's just weird.
Anyway, but the most important thing,
it has been on my mind since yesterday evening.
I was really shocked about that.
And I know we shouldn't do the whole space about this
but let's pretend that you asked me the same question as you do every week evo what's on your
minds today so yeah um charlie kirk being uh shot that was just horrific when i saw that it was like
it was just weird how can you shoot a guy like that he was 31 years old has i think two kids i'm not sure
and is married to a man with high moral standards and they kill someone like that it's like
mind-blowing and of course you have there's there are very bad things going on you we had the flood
last year and and hurricanes and stuff like that but those are accidents still terrible but here someone
goes on a rampage and goes so this is on purpose shooting someone that never ever did an act of
violence or well anyways so this was on my mind all day you can see it everywhere on x i don't
want to hijack the space with that but uh yeah so so Ivo, thank you for asking. That was on my mind today.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's something that has been on most of our minds, I think.
Yeah, so I mentioned the space we did yesterday,
or we were on yesterday.
The ruler was there as well.
And the news came out just before the space opened,
and you could really tell
it kind of shocked people well not kind of it shocked people and yeah it's well these days
there like there were and especially at such an event so many people were filming
so I didn't watch the actual video. I never really do that.
I think it's good to stay up to date with what's happening in the world.
But, you know, seeing the video of the actual deed is another thing, in my opinion.
So it's kind of worrying that such an explicit video was going around all over the platform.
And I think many people saw things they didn't want to see.
So, yeah, it was very...
Man.
I deliberately did not watch the video either.
I just read the news articles.
So I don't want to do the whole space about this,
but it's been on my mind all day because it's so...
To me, it still feels orchestrated,
making people angry against each other even more.
But let's not get into that.
But it's, yeah, it's just heartbreaking to see.
And, of course, the whole world is a mess,
but this is just one of these things.
And 9-11, you know, the date as well.
Yes, it was yesterday, but come on, it's weird.
And yeah, so God bless his family.
Hope they get through.
And let's go to the next subject.
Sorry for touching that, but I couldn't let it go today.
No, no, of course.
You can always share what's on your mind.
And if anybody wants to respond on that, of course,
or add to the topic, that's more than fine uh but
yeah we don't have to uh like you said uh talk about it too too long uh liam i knew how are you
yeah no i i saw you were unmuted so i thought you wanted to jump in there oh no that was actually a
complete mistake but i guess now that i'm on stage i did have a thought okay yeah i mean obviously hedera is like the enterprise grade chain of the
world does that make us like by default a right-wing chain i mean i'm pretty conservative
personally i'm absolutely shocked at what's happened but yeah interested to hear just to
kind of lighten up the topic a bit um like where do people stand on the political spectrum around here i'm pretty conservative as i said oh no we're not gonna do that
there's no use fine uh did you really want to start the conversation or did i miss
no that was here i beg your pardon no i was i mean look i'm being a bit facetious but um
would be interesting to note nonetheless but probably not the time or place. Um,
I am interested to hear from sources swap though, to be honest,
I personally haven't had the pleasure. So looking forward to being in this space
with you, I don't know who's behind the microphone,
but I think what would be useful is, uh,
we would love to get in touch with your platform because when we launch our
application and roughly six months time we uh would love to integrate with your api not so sure who we need
to get in touch with for that but it would be lovely to kind of open the bridge there so to
speak it's brandon not it's brandon but the other brandon it's bubble brand Yeah, the one and only, man.
Why is Brandon keeping you there?
Wait, what are we asking here?
I didn't realize it was you.
I just got you.
I didn't realize it was you behind the Sourceswap account.
But now I have my in, so question solved, I suppose.
There you go.
There you go.
You can contact me for whatever you need, buddy.
Thanks, bro.
Was this a moment where, Brandon, you didn't realize Liam was talking to you because he mentioned Sarsap?
Oh, no.
He was wondering if it was a right-wing chain.
And I'm certainly not going to say my political leanings, but I think that Hedera wants to stay as neutral as possible, right?
Yeah.
All right.
Ekwa, welcome back on stage.
How's your week been?
How are you doing?
Yo, yo, yo.
Hey, Neil.
Brandon, Liam, the ruler.
Jordan, always good to see you all. Yeah, week's been hectic. There's a lot of things going on for sure.
But excited to be here as always.
I love to see all the different spaces that are going on.
Love to see the cross chain connections and the networks growing.
Massive shout out to bad birds nfts for
sure the mint never even made public yeah congratulations to all the people who got to
mint that was a fast one you always love to see a 3 000 piece collection sold out in less than two
minutes and just two minutes yeah that's awesome so congratulations to the whole community for sure
um yeah and nft d5 the community everything is so alive and so heated up on hbar right now it's just such an amazing time to be here um yeah excited for this space as always uh love to see
what all the builders got going and i love how liam was trying to build bridges with saucer swap
and uh now he's got a friend in Saucerswap.
So let's freaking go.
That's Hedera for you.
We got friends in different, different organizations now.
Yeah, let's keep the good vibes going.
And yeah, I'll pass it back to you, Niu.
100%.
Yeah, that's some positivity.
It's very welcome. And we're seeing it in the space man this uh the bad birds mint was uh was a vibe um everybody chatting in the group just again showing
their their minted nfts uh on the timeline and um yeah this was cool it uh it went really fast, so two minutes and two seconds. After the free mint phase,
so every whitelisted wallet had one free mint.
I think it was around 600 wallets that minted the free NFT.
So yeah, it's hard to say how many individuals that were,
that was about.
But 600 wallets were whitelisted.
And yeah, after the free mint, it was only,
yeah, it lasted two minutes and then it was gone.
I had, yeah, every whitelist had then 35 mints available
and most didn't even get there.
So I wasn't able to mint my 35 either.
I think I got like 20, no, 30. And most didn't even get there. So I wasn't able to mint my 35 either.
I think I got like 20.
No, 30.
I was able to get 30.
And then it was all gone.
So, yeah, really cool to see. And, man, I'm looking forward to more of these mints.
Because the Forever Mint is super, super cool to keep things going.
But there's nothing like the first mint
where everybody is collectively minting.
And yeah, and also after the mint,
you got the first hour where everybody's trying to snipe some rares
because nobody's really got a feeling for the new trades,
the new collections.
So people might be paper and paper
handing the um the the good ones so there's that rush as well so um yeah nothing like a
the first mint brandon go ahead man yeah do you guys know if well i have a couple things i didn't
get one of the uh the birds on the mint but I did buy on secondary on Kabila, and
I actually got one of the ones
with the Kabila t-shirt and
the hash pack hat, so I'm
stoked about that. But is 3200
it, or is there going to be additional mints?
So I didn't
welcome the ruler on stage yet, and I think this
is a good moment for him to jump in, because he's
been in a lot, he's had a lot of contact with Ando, the founder a good moment for him to jump in because he's been in a lot.
He's had a lot of contact with Ando, the founder.
So I'm going to toss this one to the ruler.
What is up, fam?
Let's go.
What a freaking mint out, man.
Absolutely incredible.
The community showed up.
And like you said, man, it did not make it too public as expected. And I'm with you.
I didn't get to mint 35.
I ended up minting 30 it did
not go through at the very end so massive shout out to you and the team as well i know a lot of
hard work went into that to make sure everything was running smoothly and operating smoothly but
it's kabila man what do you expect smooth mint after smooth mint as always so shout out to you guys congratulations to the birds and yes this
is it there is no more additional birds to come he is planning a few things uh which i think might
include a forever mint so if you are seeing people paper hand stuff maybe pick up some of the ones
that you like maybe it might be worth your time down the road.
So, of course, we're going to see a lot of marketplace listings at the moment
because people got some for free.
They're going to try to paper hand.
But, hey, let them paper hand.
Let me keep collecting because there's so many different trades.
Man, he just did a fantastic job with the variety of it.
So just seeing them all in the timeline, it's been beautiful.
So, again, shout out to them. job with the variety of it so just seeing them all the timeline it's been beautiful so again
shout out to them shout out to kabila for always pulling up and giving us a smooth minting experience
and just to touch upon what um patrick was saying yes brother it was a freaking rough day yesterday
it came right at the beginning of our space with charles atkins but you said it perfectly man this
is all a plan to make us hate each other to to be more divisive and not to engage with your fellow neighbors.
But guess what?
It's not going to work, especially in Web3, baby.
We all know what it's about.
We're all highly educated people that know what the overall agenda is.
So love your neighbor.
Love the guy next to you on stage and just keep the positivity moving forward.
And also to touch upon that space yesterday man
it was an absolute freaking blast to have charles up there talking with us and the xrp homies as
well they were extremely freaking bullish on hbar after that just to have the hbar foundation
president come in and talk to us the way he did and educate us on what they're planning to do for
retail man man if that doesn't if that doesn't put a win in your sales, I don't know what does.
So it was extremely bullish and everybody that pulled up,
thank you all for coming and listening to us. And man, again,
extremely, extremely bullish on HBAR at the moment.
Everything is just pointing in the right direction and I'm freaking excited to be
part of it.
Did he answer all your questions, Brandon?
Oh, yeah.
All set.
I appreciate it.
And congratulations.
Nice.
Yeah.
I invited Endo to the space today as well,
but he got food poisoning a couple days ago.
And so he was actually working through the whitelists
and getting them on the launchpad with food poisoning.
So he's pretty exhausted now.
But I'm sure he'll be there next week
and we can talk a bit more about his future plans.
I know he's got some stuff coming.
So one of those things is the Forever Mint, I believe. And I think he's got some more coming so one of those things is the forever mint uh i believe and i think he's
got some more stuff on the agenda so um but yeah man uh it seems like he came out of nowhere and
and within a couple weeks he built up the community and that's that's the most important thing you
know um it's i think there are more people i'm pretty sure there are more people who are capable of making some cool art than that there are people who actually know how to take that art and build a community around it.
So I think that that's such a valuable skill and it's super cool to see when it goes right and when people succeed in that.
and when people succeed in that.
By the way, I'm seeing Puno in the audience as well.
Puno with a monkey, aside from his name.
I think Puno is exploring Hedera as well.
So if you want, check his profile out, check out his art,
let him know what you think uh maybe get in contact i think um
yeah who knows open to uh to making some connections in hedera uh in the world of
hbar nft so um yeah if you're curious and you like the art you like the vibe just uh
yeah reach out to him and um maybe we'll get him up on stage someday as well the ruler go ahead
maybe we'll get him up on stage someday as well.
The rule to go ahead.
No, absolutely.
Puno, Puno.
I see the art.
I'm vibing with it.
So yeah, whenever you have time,
jump up on Calvi Plaza.
That's always the safest place
to come introduce yourself without any judgment.
So always good to see new artists pop up
into the ecosystem.
And just to kind of touch upon Ando and getting ill,
yeah, that is one side effect with launching with Kabila.
It is rough out here.
You're going to get some food poisoning.
So, no, I'm just kidding.
He's been around for three, four years.
He's been doing the art in the background.
So he did put a lot of time and effort into what he did today.
So, again, it just didn't come out of nowhere. He's put the time and effort into what he did today so again it just didn't come out of nowhere
he's put the time and effort into it and the kabila team made it really easy for him to
upload all of his art into the ecosystem and mint with us so again massive massive congratulations
there and and you said it man you you might have the best product you might have the best art but
if you don't have the attention if you don't have the time and effort to put into uh broadcasting what you're actually doing it won't matter so endo was a great example
he was all over everybody's timeline the bad birds were in cross-chain spaces being talked about so
if you don't have the attention of the ecosystem it's not going to succeed so just don't think you
can just have a product and sit on your ass and it'll all just come to fruition. No, it won't. You have to put the time and effort into it.
And it's going to require people paying attention to what product you have.
So that goes for everybody trying to mint and come over to HBAR as well.
Put an effort into it and you will be rewarded.
Lenny.
Hey, new, psyched, Patrick, the ruler. New, Brandon. What's up, guys? Lenny Hey new
Patrick Deruler
new Brandon
happy Friday's Eve
yeah I mean obviously
everything that happened yesterday
pretty top of mind and it's close to home for me
I actually live in Utah
so it's
yeah it's rough
I don't really want to talk about it
but I wanted to say huge congrats to the birds and the community of the birds.
And I'm also out of breath finishing up my bike ride right now.
So in case you're wondering, why is this guy not able to talk? What is up with them?
But just wanted to say, New, is it cool if i pin some birds up top
oh yeah you can hear some birds up top oh i'm seeing marshall as well with the wizard bird
pfp and marshall if you want to come up on stage um you're welcome to do so as well
but don't feel any pressure you don't have to yeah and um yeah i also wanted to shout out uh puno that art looks
dope uh excuse my french but that was um yeah i couldn't help myself when i saw that i was like
oh i really like what i see uh definitely resonate that vibes um are they minting on kabila then
yes do you know any details
no no i think they're uh pununo is just exploring and there are still.
And I think that I like the art as well, as we just discussed.
You can't really start minting without attention and the community.
So I think there's still some work to be done there.
And then we'll see what happens.
Oh yeah, no doubt yeah and shout
out to how uh bad birds built the community it was like top of mind always on the timeline for
the last like month or so uh so just shout out to how they conducted all that like the um the custom
birds that people made and all the traits they got incorporated into the collection just really
love to see it and um last point real quick i just wanted to shout out everyone who facilitated that combo
with charles yesterday um i'm still like riding that high in it and it slipped my vibe after what
happened yesterday and shout out to the ruler being there you were there new uh seeing people
in the audience who were there just it was an awesome space and just shout out to the cross chains pollination just really love to see it same oh i was still on mute yeah same
man the uh the energy is uh increasing it's catching on and um yeah hbAR NFT is just the place to be. I hope we can get just another hype mint within the foreseeable future
so that momentum keeps going and energy remains.
That would be really cool.
Let's see.
All right, I've got a question for Brandon in a bit,
but I want to finish going around the stage first.
And Liam, you spoke a little bit, but yeah, what's up with you? How have you been?
How are things with IMPART? I don't even think we talked about you guys getting the Build-A-Grant Foundation.
We didn't get to that last week. So tell us a little bit about that.
through that last week so tell us a little bit about that new i have absolutely no idea what
you're talking about um to those of you who were lucky to see the announcement that we posted
congratulations i had to promptly take that down as we can't discuss such things online
but good things are happening at impart and we are building something very exciting
i think that what we're building is not only going to give Hedera an edge on every other DLT.
And I don't say that lightly.
And I'm not one to exaggerate.
I truly mean that.
And we've been told that by several parties now and some big parties as well.
Really big things happening behind the scenes.
We are forging some incredible partnerships.
And yeah, we're building an application that I think is going to address one of the biggest issues in hedera i need to backtrack because obviously you
know we did our initial iron node in part to build a creative application that would be like
the multimedia experience with an investment layer that anyone who's read the white paper knows what
i'm talking about i don't want to get too into that right now i mean that application is going
to take three to five million dollars to create.
So needless to say, we do not have the funds for that right now.
We had to figure out what's the best MVP.
And we worked with some very successful entrepreneurs here in South Africa to figure
out exactly what that is.
And yeah, I'm really happy with what we've landed on.
I think it's going to solve some big issues.
And the big issue that it's addressing is the fact that people like founders and specific
community members no names mentioned extract liquidity from projects you know we have
founders ragging liquidity not just on hedera but on all chains and i believe that that
plays an enormous role in stunting the growth of ecosystems and specifically small ecosystems.
Now, there's absolutely nothing wrong with trading the market and, you know, these memes and these pumps and pump fun and all of this and meme jobs.
There's nothing wrong with that.
But I think that it's about time we had a solution for people who actually don't want to be a part of any of that.
And they just want to have a legitimate launch with a legitimate community that 100 is behind their project for the long run and so that's what
we are working on at the moment and i can't wait to show everyone what we're doing to solve this
problem it's not something that i can talk about in detail because we have something quite frankly
novel in the entire world there is no such platform like this
in the world and it kind of does require hedera to to function which is quite cool obviously
hedera allows us to do a lot of things that we can't do on other dlt's as we all know here
so that's exciting but we are going to be bridging it but everything's going to run on hedera as well
so that's going to be really cool.
So this functionality that I'm talking about is going to be available to eventually, hopefully, every major DLT.
But everything will operate on Hedera with bridges and wraps, etc.
So that's going to be super exciting.
So yeah, we're working on that.
Our timeline is that we should have mainnet ready by the end of January, if all goes well.
And before that, we'll obviously have a testnet, and then we'll make proper announcements with everything that we should have mainnet ready by the end of January if all goes well and before
that we'll obviously have a testnet and then we'll make proper announcements with everything that
we've been working on but we've had our heads down for a while in the background and you know we
we were so grateful when we initially raised the money that we did through Kabila I might add and
it was quite frankly world-changing it was world-changing
for me to be able to raise that money and i'm really feeling grateful that we're so early
in this journey and i hope that impart can push hedera forward and create a space for not only
ambitious founders and creatives to come into this ecosystem and have a safe place to launch and grow
but also kind of opening that up to corporate entities who want to come into this ecosystem and have a safe place to launch and grow but also kind of opening that up
to corporate entities who want to come into the space and launch and grow as well so yeah all
around feeling fantastic thanks for the opportunity to talk and regarding bad birds i am i suppose one
of the uh the benefits of uh firstly wait before i even say that i'm so jealous that you two darula and new got 30 because
i was sitting there with south african internet like waiting for the connection to go through i
got my free mint fortunately and i got i managed to get 10 on round two and i was trying to get up
to the maximum and literally i couldn't even get more than 10 like it was over by the time i got
my 10 there was a pending mint for
my second group of 10. And I was just so annoyed. I was like, are you actually serious? I literally
sat in the car because we were out at a work meeting and I sat in the car waiting for the
time after the free mint. Like we sat in one spot, my girlfriend and I, and I only managed to get 10.
But the benefit of having a large treasury, as I was just saying,
is that somebody has put the number one rarity
on Centex for 8,000 HBAR,
and I'm gonna go buy it right now,
while we're on this space,
unless someone else goes and buys it.
So if you want the number one rarity in the collection
for 8 000 hbar
then please go buy it now before i log into my treasury wallet because otherwise you ain't getting
it are you talking about the number one bad bird i am indeed i am indeed but you didn't hear it from it
all right it's gone awfully quiet in here
no no i'm not rushing to do anything no no um brendan i actually want to hear a little bit more from you because I forget what the names are for all these different types of filings for HBAR ETFs.
But you know what I'm talking about.
There was some news again.
I do.
I do.
So, yeah, there's two HBAR-backed ETFs that have been filed.
One is for Canary Capital and their S1 filing,
which is filed by the issuer of the ETF itself. And I'm not an expert. Just from things that I've gotten through osmosis, being in this space, the S1 was filed by Canary Capital last November.
And then we got 19B4s.
Now, 19B4s are done by the exchange themselves.
And in this case, for both of our ETFs, it's NASDAQ.
Canary Capital and Grayscale filed 19B4s in February of this year.
So I guess you don't have to do it in order in one way or the other.
It really doesn't matter one way or the other which one gets filed first.
Because this week we got the Grayscale HBAR-backed ETF S1 filing.
So that's essentially what it is. Both of the filings that are necessary for
the SEC for both the Grayscale and the Canary Capital HBAR backed ETFs have been filed. So
now it's pretty much just a waiting game. We don't know if altcoins in general, if these two
are going to come like in a batch, if there's going to be several approved at once, everybody's kind of getting pushed back to the ultimate deadline for several of them is in November.
So we don't know what that's going to look like. Duncan Moyer with the president of 21 shares, the CEO and co-founder of Canary Capital.
And then one of the executives with, let's see, VanEck saying that it should, they should go back,
the SEC should go back to first to file, first to get approval. And i kind of agree with that but you know i guess the
the crypto space is a little bit special i don't really care as long as as long as the hbar backed
etfs get filed but i hope i covered your question there new yeah yeah definitely and um what are what are the odds for um a decision before the deadline my i my it seems that like
a deadline is well there's they always seem to be waiting for the exact deadline to to make a
decision uh does it happen where they just decide like okay we don't need to wait for the deadline uh we still have a month but let's just
um get to it and and make the decision right now or i don't think they're going to wait until the
absolute deadline i don't think and i think that's november 11th i want to say or 12th
someplace in there is the ultimate deadline um i don't think they're going to wait that long. And if they do several altcoin ETFs at once,
you would expect it to be well before all of their deadlines. And there are several of the
deadlines that are kind of piled up there in November. So maybe early November, sometime in
October, something along those lines. The chances, I don't know. but i would say we're not going to wait until the ultimate
deadline and right now i believe bloomberg intelligence puts the approval of the hbar etf
at 90 or over 90 last i looked was 90 but either way whether it's 90 95
so i'd be really surprised if we don't get an approval
So I'd be really surprised if we don't get an approval.
Sounds good.
Sounds good.
All right.
One thing I'm noticing is that we have 12 reposts and 17 likes on the space,
and there are more people in here.
So I'm not going to check who didn't like and repost the space,
but many of the people here are guilty.
So if you haven't already, make sure to share this space
and more people can come up in here and talk about H-Bar with us.
Also, if you are here just listening in, all good.
But if you want to ask a question or toss an idea up or share something,
you're more than welcome to do so by sharing it in the comments
or just hopping up on stage and joining the conversation with us.
So, by the way, Lenny, did you drop down or is my ex glitching again?
No, I think you dropped down. I can't see him.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah. All right. All right.
Yes, Neil.
Equa.
Yes, Neil.
You basically got your eyes on a different part of the ecosystem where I see less than you do.
Has there been anything going around what we should pay attention to or what I might have missed and you want to share with the audience?
Yeah, for sure, man.
So one cool thing that happened this week
was the Starfall V,
the star token,
it bonded from MemeJob
and made its way all the way to SaucerSwap
and now it's freely tradable.
So that was a big moment for sure.
Yeah, it's a project by Nanduel,
Silent Architect.
He's been getting a lot of attention and he's been putting in a lot of work behind comic series as well as animated series
that he's trying to cook up. Yeah, and it's cheap and affordable NFTs with a real cool story and a
real nice founder behind it. So yeah, a little shout out to StarfallV for sure. Yeah, lots of things going on with the Returnals as well. They got a really cool marketing strategy going where they're incentivizing the community to get involved, get into making memes, making posts, and incentivizing everything through giveaways, you know, and they got some really cool prizes to be given away as well.
I know there's a ghost in there. I know there's a lot of give, pause, a lot of tokens that they're giving away to the community
for engaging and creating more content around their art and NFTs and everything that Returnals have going on.
So, yeah, that's a really cool and engaging way always to get your community more involved
and more active with everything that's going on.
Also, shout out to Give. Well, Give is in every part of the community, but shout out to Give.
Shout out to the GiveEyes getting more and more common on many PFPs. Um, yeah.
Also, I'd like to give a shout out to the dot H bar crew. Uh, we got a token H bar dot H bar. Um,
yeah, and yeah, a hundred percent, uh, the token itself started off as one thing, but now it has
turned into a whole, uh whole platform and the token is the
utility token for a wrapped DEX that's coming to Hedera and coming to all the chains.
So that's one thing that we're looking forward to.
Shout out to my man Kyle, Postmaster down there.
He's one of the founders, one of the visionaries behind the whole wrapped DEX that's coming
to the network.
So keep an eye out on that for sure.
Lots of cool things happening.
Be active on the launch pads and be careful as well because I know there's a few people who just come in during this time and launch an NFT collection, launch a meme coin without any
intention of staying around or really building anything for the community.
So just a quick reminder to keep doing your own research, trusting the founders and the
projects who have been here for a longer time and have built the community in an organic
way, rather than just building communities by doing giveaways and
getting that hype really, really quickly. And also, yeah, there's going to be a time where a
lot of grifters and a lot of scammers come into the ecosystem as well when everything is going up,
when everything is looking up. So, yeah, keep protecting our friends, keep protecting
ourselves. Yeah, make sure to do your own research before jumping in and going heavy into any project.
Yes, definitely. Always do your own research.
Lenny, feel free to jump in.
Hey, yeah, I did jump down.
I finished my bike ride.
Feeling great.
I did completely space on mentioning I'm giving away a FWISH.
Have you guys seen that collection?
Recently launched and it's like going exploding.
Then they inflated their supply, created more FWISH.
Then I got a FWISH and given away that FWISH.
So if you want that FWISH, I can post it up top.
Do you think that's cool or is like double megaboard action like going a bit overboard today
yeah yeah no definitely uh there's there's only one thing on the on the megaboard though so feel free to to pin it up there okay um yeah i, I was planning on just showering before my meeting I
have at the top of the hour, but I think I'm just going to chill here and go off video in that one.
But at the top of the hour, I will have to jump into a meeting. I'll just, you know, shower after
that meeting. That's fine. Sure, sure. Yeah, I quickly want to touch back on what Patrick started the space with by the way because if you
minted a bird then we do have some some new stuff on the on the market so there's
this profile now where the bad birds as a creator you can navigate to all
sections so there was the mint section, it's gone now because it's
mended out. From there you can navigate to items, offers, but also activity and analytics.
And even if you look back and find the actual launchpad in the sold out section of the launchpads you can scroll down as as patrick said and actually um
yeah see some live uh analytics also while you're still minting of um which wallets are minting
what nfts have been minted how the distribution is so um there's a ranking as well you can see
the distribution of nfts which is handy it also marks the treasury wallet so you
know which wallet is actually from the project and which wallet is not so it's um it's pretty handy
to to keep an eye on distribution that way so you know that it's not like um yeah um a couple of wheels holding 50% of the supply and then, you know, inflating the,
keeping the floor price up.
So yeah, it's nice to have some statistics there.
If you mint it, yeah, just roam around a little bit
and see what's there.
I also wanted to toss it to Monster.
I see you got your hand up.
It's good to have you up on stage
because I was on a call with the H-Bar wall yesterday.
I don't know if you guys have seen him yet, but I jumped on a call and it was a fellow Dutchie, which was nice.
Didn't expect that.
I started just talking in English and then he saw my name and he was like, hey, I think we can do this in Dutch, which was pretty cool.
And we took a look at the H-Bar wall and there were a bunch uh monster posts there so uh it's good to see you up here now um who we got behind the mic or should
we just call you monster uh hey yeah you can just call me monster that's that's all right um
so i was listening to impart hedera speak earlier and i myself am a global pass holder. I mentioned one of the NFTs when it launched.
And he mentioned, you know, having the access to the treasury and buying an NFT.
I just wanted to know from Impart Hedera what the plans were for the holders.
You know, how are the holders going to benefit in the long run or what kind of ideas they have?
But also HBAR Wall, yeah, they're a really cool project.
I've been talking with them a little bit, and I really like their vision of having,
it's basically like Twitter on crypto, in my opinion.
But anyway, so yeah, I just had a question for MPART.
Certainly, and thank you for supporting the cause.
and thank you for supporting the cause.
Much appreciated.
Much appreciated.
So my kind of dream for the double pass holders
and the trashed artists NFT holders to a lesser degree
because, of course, there are more of those
was a revenue share on our platform.
Now, that is pending legal approval.
Very fortunately, though,
we do have the most excellent legal team,
and I'm not exaggerating, in South Africa, working with us on our project. So I think that it's
likely we'll be able to implement that revenue share, the platform revenue share.
Currently, we have an exclusive holders group on the discord where we kind of discuss you know we
give holders voting rights so we hold voting polls in the discord we've got token gated channels
thanks to our developer kyla um so yeah platform revenue shares and um there are other things that
i'd like to implement as well uh you know buyback and distribution of the trash token for example for
global parts holders and trash nft holders um but yeah it was always a status symbol for those who
support our brand the most and of course if we get to the grand vision of that multimedia
application experience that we want to create then hopefully we can implement the revenue share there
as well um it is something that we discussed with our investors privately initially, but just due
to legalities, we couldn't really discuss that publicly because it's just considered
incentivizing people to buy the NFTs.
So obviously nothing I'm saying is financial advice.
However, that is the kind of gift I'd like to give back to our holders as well as platform discounts of course and i think that they'll be quite sought after just
for those two factors in terms of the kind of return through the revenue distribution and
discounts i think they'll be quite sought after we are not making any more global passes just so
you know and i'm strongly considering also not making any more trashed
artists nfts although that is uh pending i just need to see what my diary looks like if i i'm
completely honest with you over the next six months or so um so yeah does that answer your question
uh yeah perfectly thank you very much
Thank you very much.
Amazing.
And can we hear a little bit about Moonstar as well?
Yeah, I'm at work right now, but I'll try to make it quick.
So I just felt like I had a good idea for a meme, you know, and I really believe in community.
I've been in growth for like three years.
I really like the dev over at
growth, but I kind of felt like I had a good idea and I wanted to implement it. And I feel like it's
a really good time to do it in HBAR right now because everything is really popping off. NFTs,
the memes. I think meme job is basically the next pump fund. But yeah, I just want to reward,
continue to reward the holders the best I can.
I'm working on NFTs right now, but I'm having trouble understanding how to put in the layers into a generator.
But I'm definitely working on things in the background.
I'm just a really, I'm a really busy person.
I'm a really busy person. I've got two jobs.
I've got two jobs.
So I try, I'm trying to do the best I can.
So I'm trying to do the best I can.
I understand.
If you need some help with that,
are you using the art generator from, from Kabila or, or not?
Well, right now I'm working on layers with Procreate.
You know, I've got like 40 or 50 layers.
But I just don't understand exactly how to correctly input the layers so everything comes out well.
Yeah, so you mean how to put the layers together or how to make sure they line up perfectly and the layers fit together?
Correctly, yeah. I need to make sure I know how to get the layers fit together. Correctly, yeah.
I need to make sure I know how to get the layers to stack correctly.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay, well, just shoot me a DM and we'll take that up after the CuyPlaza.
Awesome.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you, guys.
100%.
All right, man.
Thanks for jumping up.
And we've got Kyle and Bamboongi up on stage as well,
but Brandon probably has to almost go.
So I quickly want to ask Brandon,
well, first I want to mention that Brandon did an awesome interview with Manu as well.
Equa, could you maybe pin that to the Jumbotron?
Because I still am not able to do that, which is kind of lame, but yeah, sorry.
So yeah, Brendan did a great interview with Manu about NFTs on Adera.
Well, you're here, so it probably is interesting to you.
So go check it out.
And also, Brendan, is there any news you would like
to share with us and with the audience that we didn't discuss yet? Well, the one thing that I'm
excited about for tomorrow's show, I got a lot of stuff coming for tomorrow's show. They were able
to announce for the African Hackathon, the additional million dollars in follow on investment.
Still weeks to get into that. So I'll have a spot from that. We have AE. I have an interview with them. I have some
highlights from the KAIO interview that Ryan Solomon did with Genfinity. He was nice enough
to let me use a few clips from that. But the main interview for tomorrow is going to be between Philip,
the CEO from Swarm,
and Hania from the Hedera Foundation.
And it really has me excited about DeFi
not just acting as a proof of concept
for TradFi exchanges in the future.
Of course, you know,
DEXs will always be the home for all of the Web3 tokens we have out there.
But what I'm getting excited about is because Swarm has pretty much solved the regulatory
issue of bringing all the other TradFi assets over into DeFi.
It allows DEXs like SaucerSwap and others to become direct competitors
with the traditional exchanges out there. So the NASDAQ and the New York Stock Exchange,
the CBOE, FTSE, whatever, go on down the line. And not just having these DEXs, again,
just be a proof of concept, but a true disruptor and going head
to head. And where that might not seem super impactful right now, when the younger millennials
and younger out there start to get the largest wealth transfer in history, and they get whatever,
Tesla stock or Apple stock or spider ETFs or whatever
it might be. And they're like, wait a second, I can go to Swarm and tokenize these and provide
liquidity on SaucerSwap. I mean, that could be huge a few years down the line. And, you know,
we're having those building blocks being created right now. So I'd say that's probably the thing
that this week I'm most excited about with Hedera. But of'd say that's probably the thing that this week
I'm most excited about with the DARE,
but of course that changes week to week,
but really big, really potentially impactful
for the DARE network.
Yeah, 100%.
And I was actually kind of surprised when I first saw
the Salesforce team mentioned this stuff in a document.
I don't know when or where it was.
It was, I think, a couple
months ago or possibly half
a year ago already, but
it's cool to see. And I don't
think that
the stuff that's on the SouthSwap agenda right now
has been there when
they started, right? I think they
completed the initial vision
as I understand it, and now
it's expanding on that but um um
i don't think that um yeah what's in the on the roadmap right now um is still part of the initial
vision is that right well i mean things are changing all the time and you know they don't
really have a plan for these tokenized securities that are going to come through Swarm now.
Well, they're developing those plans, but, you know, it's not something that's going to happen overnight.
But, yeah, the roadmap is always getting updated and depending on, you know, the tools that we have out there, the infrastructure that we have out there.
I mean, what Philip was saying, the CEO of Swarm,
was even a year ago, this wasn't possible.
Obviously, there's been tremendous changes
as far as what's possible from a regulatory standpoint.
But I think once this stuff gets put in place, it's going to stick.
So exciting times for sure in the DeFi space in general
and particularly Sa saucer swap
how much yeah um oh i also see that the uh oh no never mind i thought monster pin something to the
jumbo trombone but i just had his page open so that was kind of a mindfuck hey i want to say
something else um talk you asked about the vision of monster i wasn't exactly prepared to answer the
question uh at the time but the whole thing with monster is like a story right um you know he's
created in a lab tortured by scientists and he finally has escaped and if you've been following
the page um you know he's been abducted by aliens and he's been walking around UFO fighting them and finding stuff.
And I just want to continue the story. Like I have a lot of ideas that this direction could go.
And I want to keep like adding in other memes in the ecosystem and NFTs.
Like I really like Peeps. And so I like to add in the peeps into my storyline. And so I'm trying to bring everything kind of together in the Hedera system over a long period of time throughout the stories.
I'm definitely going to continue to keep adding to the lore.
And I'm hoping that I can just keep developing more NFTs or utilization that ties the lore and the whole ecosystem together if that makes sense
definitely makes sense and and lore the lore is one of the most important things
uh in a collection and in a project it makes it easier to uh build a community around your around the lore about around the story that you're writing.
And the fun thing about Web3, I think,
is that you can do that together with the community.
If you look at the Dead Pixels Ghost Club,
they've got quite some traits that were just traits before.
And now, because they have been around for, I guess,
almost four years now or three. There are some threads that now have quite a lore,
but it's because the community built the lore around what was already there.
So I think that's quite a fun thing of Web3,
that you're able to build in public and involve the community in
creating a story. Exactly, even if we don't all get rich from this, I'm having fun,
you know, and I think that's more important than anything is that we all have fun at the end of
the day. Definitely. All right, man. Thanks for coming up let's um let's toss it to kyle
ekpal maybe you want to take this one because you uh you uh mentioned kyle before you shouted
out shouted him out i don't know if you if that's something you can say but you shouted him out uh
so um feel free to uh pick up the mic and um toss it to k Hey, thanks. Thanks for having me up, Neil. Appreciate you.
And hey, Syke, thank you so much for that for that shout out. And Brandon, really excited about your
new position with Saucerswap Labs and the PR work is much needed for the communication there. Of
course, we love Saucerswap. We love what you guys are doing in the DeFi space, exploring layer zero and just getting that
cross-chain liquidity talk really going and the asset talk, just getting everything in the world
tokenized. And Dr. Lehman Beard and Mance, and we got Charles Atkins just joining the
trenches, man. They're in the freaking trenches as deep as they can possibly get. So God bless everybody who's really putting in the work here.
So yeah, thank you again, Syke.
We are just getting ready to launch our way paper and present the DAO offering of the
.H token and the connection with our wrapped asset decks, which is really going to wrap
those top 50 by market cap, possibly the top 100 eventually
by market cap crypto assets. And we really believe that that is like the least path of resistance when
it comes to liquidity and assets in crypto. And it's about freaking time. I thought that Hedera
eventually would black hole the entire trading market. I couldn't understand why Binance and Kraken,
all these things existed until I learned,
oh, these chains don't talk to one another.
It's actually a problem to solve.
And crypto grew beyond that problem in trade.
So I've been sitting just thinking about this
for years and years and years and waiting for the solution.
And finally, I see all the tech stacks built here.
I've gained all the partnerships and relationships that I need to build it myself.
So here we go, baby.
Strap up, rock it in.
Rapdex is on the way, guys.
You guys want to follow along, you can follow the Rapdex socials.
We just kicked those off yesterday.
The new logo and the mantra mantra of raftex is out there
now so get get ready guys if you guys do want early access to the white paper please just give
me a dm i'll send you over the uh the vis me presentations thanks a lot mio
let's go i saw patrick uh tossing tossing up some emojis. Did you want to jump in there, Patrick, or give a response?
No, no response.
I love his hype, his hype, enthusiasm about all these things.
It is great that people are starting new projects always.
But yeah, it's a surprise for many people, I think.
But it's awesome.
So it was just like, whoa, no way.
But I lack emoticons in my board here.
And I actually promised my wife to jump off at six,
but I wanted to listen to what Cal had to say.
Hey, thank you so much.
And thank your team for the support, for the logos.
Marcel, huge shout out to Earthings.
We've been there every step of the way,
giving some proposal ideas.
We really do have a really strong team.
So it's not the post show,
even though this has been kind of my brainchild, my idea.
A lot of people in this industry really see this vision
and want to help it along.
And we have a team of developers.
We have a team of visionaries
that are really going to help us when bringing it along. So, yep team of developers we have you know a team of visionaries that are
really going to help us when bringing along so yeah we're excited man
yeah man um so stick around and maybe we can talk about the rep decks a bit more uh i i saw
bamboonji wave just now and i want to avoid moving on and Bamboonji not having the
time to tell us a little bit about his project because Bamboonji is here for the first time.
Reading from his profile, there are 3,333 RedPandas coming to Hidera.
So let's hear it.
What can we expect from you?
Yo, Hi everyone.
Thank you for having me here.
I represent the Bambuji team here.
So what we do is we actually using our mascot as Red Panda into collection here.
Because we saw about the Red Panda is unique.
We love to have it in art.
We love to spread this out in community, especially in Haderah.
We thankful for Haderah and Kabila to having us here.
And yeah, I would say that this one of our means that we will make sure all goes well.
And absolutely with Kabila as our launchpad and partner with, I would say that we bullish in NFTs has graph to be honest and also
love to see
a warm welcome here from
the community in Habar
so yeah
thank you for having us
and now I would say
we will launch in
this month
the time and the date are not yet
disclosed but we haven't said are not yet disclosed, but we
haven't said, but not yet announced.
I will let you know
and also
let you know guys in the announcement
later. So yeah.
That's all.
Any questions about Ban Buji, let me
know. We would like to talk about
our community and also
we want to,
cause, uh, so we want to introduce you to the red panda cause the red panda, uh,
is also unique animals here.
So red panda is also part of WWF conservation.
So yeah, that's why we, we choose red panda to our art.
Thanks. so yeah that's why we we choose red panda to our art thanks thank you for having us so yeah yeah of course you're always welcome to come up and uh and connect with the community and with
the other project founders so thanks for telling a little bit about Bambungie.
So I'm just scrolling down your timeline and seeing some fun art.
So how is that set up? Do you have an artist? Do you use AI?
It's something the community would like to know.
It's also a question that was asked Endo from the Bad Birds quite a couple of times.
So how are you making the art and what kind of art can we expect?
Will it be a PFP project or not?
Yeah, it's a PFP project and we have our here is also he's join us.
Our artist is he draw our all arts and traits by hands one on one so yeah the you
guys will expect uh a best quality art that we give is handmade one by one and also the traits all of it we also will introduce special traits for
hubbar community so we make uh some special traits for you guys so i hope you guys like it
we will reveal it probably soon also uh we use all by handmade so so there is no AI, probably.
Also, this is a PFP, so yeah.
We make sure your all PFP will look good.
Hopefully, you guys like our art from Bambuji team
well I like what I see so far I don't know what the what the rest here thinks but yeah it's fun
man and it's it's good to hear that the artist is hand-drawn I think there's aesthetic to that
yeah super cool man
and are you planning on minting
the entire collection in one go
or will you do
batch mints or
are you looking into the forever
mint mechanism as well
so we
we probably going
at the same time but I think we will do in phase, I think.
We will still discuss about this internally.
Our plan is to launch it in this month and within the announcement,
we will welcome and also all of part of community in Bambuji Discord.
You can check our Discord too.
Yeah, guys.
Yeah, you already have some community, right?
How did you get there?
How did you get there how did you get started so uh
we we started in to build uh to build in some collection here because
we started uh to build firstly uh we hand run So the thread and art is we need to take time to introduce.
Meanwhile, we also build our community,
basically organic from Twitter.
Also Twitter, we call it X also.
Yeah. So based on that,
we do many collab and also many yeah. So based on that, we do many collab and also many space and we overview all of
the chains that available in the market. Why we actually choosing Hebar is basically because we saw a potential here.
So we saw a warm community here.
We saw a growing community here with also the Kabila.
I would say I'm also a dev, so I say that to Kabila directly here.
I like all your platform also, all your UI UX
especially.
I love that.
information, the UX
things is so great.
I like that.
That's all my
consideration. Also,
Habar community is also warm and also give
us as a founder and also the team is the
advantage of easy to manage and easy
to launch within also I would say the
fee in Habar is also low fee I would
consider.
That's why we choose and straightforward to Haber community.
Yeah, that's why.
Super good, man.
Thanks for hopping up and thanks for sharing about your project.
So if you're interested in joining the
Bamboonji community check out their discord and yeah let's get it going do
you have maybe you already mentioned this but do you have like a sort of a
timeline or a date for for the launch do you know when you would like to do the mint?
This is...
We internally have the date, but
we want to
prepare it and also...
But the date is this month.
We will disclose it before,
probably, but
yeah, for sure.
We will disclose it
maybe tomorrow or... Not tomorrow, for sure. We will disclose it maybe tomorrow or not tomorrow, I think.
In this week or next week, we will announce it
because we want to be prepared or all the things that we need to be smooth launch.
Like shout out to Kabila and also Bad Birds NFT.
Congratulations.
That's have a great community and smooth launch.
We would, I would say that's all.
So follow us.
We will let you all know our main date soon, but we will launch it in this month.
Wow, okay.
So the art is already done mostly.
Yeah, yeah.
It's already done.
Nice.
The special traits for Habari community is already finalized.
We're still in quality checking probably.
That's why, yeah.
Super cool. Nice. finalized, we still in quality checking probably. That's why, yeah.
Super cool. Nice, okay, looking forward to that announcement
and seeing date and then of course to the mint.
Yeah, let's see if those 3,333 Bamboongies
can be minted out.
And so good luck with drawing the attention
the well getting up here on stage is a is a is a good step moving forward um yeah so
have fun thank you thank you for having us and feel free to hop on yeah of course feel free to
hop on more often you're welcome every week
um to share some updates about the bamboo jeez but also if you would like to just connect with
the the rest of the community you don't um have to have an update to uh to join capiplasia you're
always welcome and this goes for everybody um everybody down in the audience as well
everybody down in the audience as well.
Let's see, I think, yeah, we're already 15 minutes past the hour,
so we can, you know, think about wrapping things up here.
Is there anything we haven't discussed yet that anyone on stage
would still like to mention?
If not, then I want to toss it to kyle as well to um share a little bit more information on how
to get involved on the the rap decks or or maybe share a little bit more information exactly on
why and uh well what wrapped ssr are and why you think it's important
to put some focus on there.
And I'm seeing that Ekwa just raised his hand,
so go for it, man.
Yeah, I'm just going to intervene just for a little bit
while Kyle wraps things up
by talking about wrapped assets.
I'm heading out for dinner,
so I'm going to have to take your leave, guys.
Yeah.
Noob, thanks for hosting as always.
Liam, Kyle, thanks for sticking around.
And all the people in the audience, much love to all of you.
I'll see you tomorrow in Spaces.
Yeah.
Kyle, take it away, man.
And yeah, take care, everyone.
Peace and love.
Awesome, man.
Well, I got to tell you, six years ago, it sparked my interest, the TVL, the
transaction speed and cost here, of course, and that dilemma.
But more specifically, recently, you know, the talk of wrapped assets around Web3 has
been enormous.
We're talking billions, billions of dollars in wrapped assets being traded,
trillions of dollars in volume on chains like Ethereum, which are so much less efficient
to wrap assets and to trade on Ethereum than it is, say, a centralized exchange. Let's just be real.
It's so much cheaper just to hit trade on a centralized exchange than it is for me to hassle, go through the whole tech stacks that are built around Hedera, such as dynamic login,
hash packets, connectivity for cross-wallet action, that we could actually build an onboarding
site that looks and feels like a centralized exchange.
But we all will know here on Hedera that it's not the case, that it's actually going to be a full decentralization platform that wraps assets using hash ports, swarm node technology. And basically they're held one for
one. So it's a little bit different than say like Axelair or CCIP, where these assets are
swapped, held in the native chain on kind of like a lock contract sort of thing,
and then traded here as a one for one asset on Hedera. So we believe that that's kind of the road that we want to take, because there's a lot of time and effort that went into hash port.
It's something that needs a use case. And really, we want to just turn off the chatter of the entire
network to a place that just feels like a centralized exchange where you're trading Bitcoin against Ethereum.
You're trading it against Tron, where you're trading against these larger assets, but you have the same quantum resistant access.
You have the ISO certifications.
You have the ISO certifications.
You have just being here on Hedera has so much more to offer than, say, wrapping on Ethereum or wrapping on another chain.
So that's really what we're going to try to emphasize.
We're going to go to different foundations. pitch Hedera as a safe place to wrap and trade assets and go after our own infrastructure partners
to reward people who do make the efforts to port over their assets or go out to conferences and
set up meetings and get those big whales and foundations to port over and lock assets here on Hedera.
We feel that having a confined space,
something that's very focused on just that job,
having a team that's really dialed into the pitches
and the colors, the graphics,
everything around Web3 can kind of appeal
to the broader community
instead of just the Hedera community. So that's
what we're trying to build. Although it's going to have the looks and feels of Hedera, we really
want to pander to the outside industry and really stop that whole cycle of the snake eating itself
and just passing assets from one to another and creating just another meme coin. We wanted to
create something meaningful.
And this was the most meaningful thing that we could get to.
At first, it started off as just like an ISO exchange, something small.
But as we brought in partners, as we started talking to the builders that were going to
build this and started answering the question why, we really got down to the meat and bones
and said, you know what?
Top 50, top 100 by market cap,
let's go after these centralized exchanges because we can offer something that may be a solution to
centralization. And that's what we're going to try to hit with the home run here. Build it on the
native layer of Hedera. So the atomic swaps, the slippage list trades, you know, really get those, those sexy punchlines
that we can deliver with Hedera and get the most brilliant minds behind this to building
a DAO and making this not like I said, not the post show, but a Hedera community show,
whether that means, you know, involving impart and getting involved in these hackathons and,
impart and getting involved in these hackathons and really delivering the choices and implementations,
the auditing, all the rewards that come along with profit sharing from Wrapdex.
It's not just going to be going into PostPocket.
It's going to be shared, open sourced, and shared with this entire community.
That's really what my vision was for this thing is to really give something cool to the community.
That's really what my vision was for this thing is to really give something cool to
the community.
And, you know, it's really going to start with our community mints, our I&O offering and our community mints, which are coming up very shortly.
I'm really excited to deliver those in a meaningful way.
I've been here a long time and just been, you know.
Oh, no.
Getting to know you guys i got cut there yeah just getting to know everybody in the ecosystem really really well and i think i'm going to leverage that uh to to build this product out
all right yeah the the sexy punch lines made me made me laugh because it's true. That's the good thing about building on Hedera. You don't have to fake anything. You don't have to lie about anything. It is a great layer one. It's a great technology and it's fast it is cheap it is eco-friendly it's everything
people want so those sexy punch lines uh yeah you can definitely get them going by building on adera
why do you think this isn't like happening more already where what responsibility do you think
what responsibility do you think you have in this in this case um we have as a community to get
things going and and and when i asked why do you think this isn't happening more already
i mean um making use of the efficiency over there as a um as a layer one to to trade those assets
um and most of the volume is on other chains.
What's your thoughts on that?
Absolutely.
And we are seeing all sorts of different assets
being delivered here,
whether it's something as simple
as what Gilmore Estates is doing
or something even more complicated as ArchX
and SEALs Q, right?
So people are tokenizing almost everything from
diamonds to uranium to uh houses and we just feel like that a super easy path here is is to tokenize
the entirety of web 3. everybody here is familiar with web 3. And like I said, that exchange dilemma, people complain about centralized exchanges.
It's been the heel of the industry.
So if we can find some type of decentralized network that's going to last a long time, that's going to provide security, those DID layers to keep up with regulations, Hedera is the place to do it. And why Postmaster?
Like I said before, I've been here day one, investor,
just been watching, waiting for something
to really catch my attention and be worth my time
to move from the industry that I'm in into this industry.
And I like to take my time and stay in my lane, Neil.
And I think it's about time that I
switch lanes and I've been here, like I said, six years. I've been an investor in crypto for eight
years now. I've read thousands of white papers and I think that is going to reflect in my white
paper. It's going to reflect in my community mints. It reflects in the way that I can manage my team
and show up 100 hours a week, be in the trenches, stay awake at those grueling hours
of 2, 3 a.m. when people on the other side of the world, like South Africa and Australia,
and I'm the guy to do that.
I got a good face, a good voice, a good mind, and now I got a good team, and that is key.
I can't take all the credit. The team behind me has been nothing short of
walking on water to deliver these amazing ideas that I've put down on the table. Nobody is saying
no to me. And it's not because they're yes men, because I have a ton of money that I'm throwing
at them. It's because they truly and ethically believe in me, this vision, this use case, and think that it's viable. It's a viable
solution for something that is much needed in this industry. And there's not a whole lot of
explanation that's going to be needed other than really selling the VC funding to get people
involved here like me, you, and really make this a Hedera project first and foremost, so that other
industry leaders
aren't going to take this and move it to ripple right away or whatever.
We just got to move quickly as an industry here and make HBAR the wrapped asset hub.
And we're all roads lead to HBAR where all of our punchlines have already been set in
place.
All of the color tones, the marketing, everything is really just
screamed, hey, this is the centralized hub for wrapped assets. So that's our plan is to actually
do that, just to make this one place that screams, I am here for Web3, and we're going to turn off
the dog shit coin, chatter coin of the entire network know, just really focus on HBAR and the rest of Web3.
I hope that nails it for you, brother.
100% it does.
Yeah.
Thanks for all that.
So if you're down in the audience and you've been listening to Kyle and you want to get involved, just reach out.
And I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure he'll get back to you and would love to get in conversation.
So, yeah, thanks everybody, basically, who was on stage, who was in the audience sharing or listening.
Yeah, we make up the H-Bark community together.
And I love seeing more and more energy
in this space i also see bonzo finance in the audience i would love to catch up sometime with
you guys as well on copy plaza and talk a little bit about bonzo with you and yeah i'm sure the
community would love to hear from you as well. I think we can wrap it up here.
It's been 90 minutes.
So I think I'm actually fooling myself just keeping this in my calendar from 5 to 6 p.m.
It never takes just an hour.
So all right, guys.
Thanks for being here again.
Have a great rest of your day.
Have a great Friday tomorrow. Enjoy the weekend. Touch some grass. I've got the feeling that the next couple of months could get quite crazy. So make sure to, once in a while, shut down the computer and put away your phone as well. Breathe in some fresh air. Meet some friends and family it's important so um yeah before it all
gets too crazy make sure to do that as well and um yeah let's see uh let's see each other next
week looking forward to hearing what everybody has been experiencing in the ecosystem in the
week to come we'll see you then Hva sier den?
