Oh boy, it's gonna get rowdy in here.
Oh, you know, same old, same old, actually not same old, same old, I've been looking
forward to this space for a minute.
Ever since you put out the tweet, you're like, this is going to be a regular space.
I would say, I mean, I still am going to say hi to MD.
You got some tunes for us while we get this place a little, for the next two minutes?
I mean, what can't be Monday because I am too pumped for this to be Monday.
I'm literally going through and I'm sending out invites right now.
Metavision is like, yo, this is about to be a crazy space.
I'm excited for this space, man.
I really, really have been super excited.
I'm excited for this space.
I'm excited for this space, man.
I really, really have been super excited for this.
Obviously everybody for coming through.
Metavision, Gex, for being co-host.
We got the Hedera account up here with us, Vessi's here with us too, maybe going to give
We got a bunch of different projects that, let me just maybe set the ground rules and
then we can, we can go to Vessi, but ground rules are, we have a ton, we had, we got an
overwhelming response to this, just to show you how like serious this, these H barbarians
are out here in this Hedera ecosystem.
We got a bunch of different projects that let me just maybe set the ground rules and
then we can, we can go to Vessi, but ground rules are, we have a ton.
We got an overwhelming response to this just to show you how like serious this, these H
barbarians are out here in this Hedera ecosystem.
I promise you, like we're going to cycle through and siphon through everybody.
We're going to get through as many people as we can.
We had we got an overwhelming response to this just to show you how like serious this
These H barbarians are out here in this Hedera ecosystem. So just bear with us
I promise you like we're gonna cycle through and siphon through everybody. We're gonna get through as many people as we can
We'll probably go a little bit longer than an hour
Don't push it because I'd like my co-host to come back and co-host with me again sometime
Yeah, so that is where we're at currently
If you were on my graphic, right if we put out the little graphic and you had like a cute little picture up there
And then we will siphon through afterwards
But I want everybody to get a chance really keep it short right like not short to the point where it's like they're done
Move over shipping you out, but let's not kind of drag it on
Let's like like give us the gist of what you guys are doing if there's some kind of message or whatever or some kind of
Way that the community can help
Obviously deliver that in your message
But let's just be efficient because I really do want to get to as many people as possible
Sound good. Give me an emoji or something. Let me know that people are like good like yeah, get what I'm saying
Okay, cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool
Metavision shall I go to Vessi?
Yeah, Vessi welcome, how are you?
Good morning. Hey you guys Metavision. Thank you for having me
I have a little bit of a cold, but that's not gonna stop me. Thank you so much for having me today wolf
I don't know you but I am following you now
Big up to the hedera community miss gecko. What's going on? Love to hear all of your voices
Um, I guess I'll just do a couple songs or something like that. Just let me know when you want me to stop
Yeah, go for it. Give us give us the first song
We'll see how we are on time and then because I want to get to everybody else
But and then maybe you can close this out at the end of the show, too
Thank you. If it's only an hour. I definitely can't thank you so much for the opportunity and uh this song that I minted on a
Sound at XYZ I created to help my friend
I've raised four hundred and seventy five dollars to help him out in his time of need and he's already received that so big
Shout-out to everybody who's helped mint and also send donations. It's called long lost lover, which I think is we all are
Somehow so let's travel together. Here we go
Why do you have to leave so soon?
Your love sent me straight to the moon
You asked me why it hurts so bad
Giving love that you just don't have
Pulling from a place where you were so lonely cuz you didn't love yourself
Now it's time that you should know
So made searching for each other on love's great parade
You asked me why it hurts so bad
Giving something that you just don't have
I tell you that I love you so
But I really gotta let you go
And know true love it is go
Holding on to all they know just cuz they don't understand
So scared to lose one another in this great holy land
Where real love is so hard to find don't you understand
I tell you that it starts with you
Don't you know my baby blue
If you could only see your wish can come true you will find your golden you
Each and every single day
You could show all the world just what we're saying
I appreciate it. I'm looking forward to the end of this space just so you can kind of close this out
I'm I'm anxious to hear the next song
So let's get this thing cracking
Who do we got on stage first? We got to say hey, what's up to everybody?
We've got the header account Orbis is here Dave's here Vesey
Legends of the past tats is here Michael again real quick
If you were on the graphic that I put up check my pin tweet
If you had your nice little PFP up there, please request right now. I'm trying to go through this
I don't think I've ever had this many people in this space since I've been doing this game. So let's go
We break in records today
Legends of the past. How are you my friend?
Little shy, okay, maybe you come up to maybe you speak next time. Let's do it again tats. We'll come back to you legend
Thank you so much, I'm doing really good
Just a lot of work, but yeah, I'm super excited to be here
Really nice to see all of the ecosystem here as well seeing neuron here as well
I think one of the coolest coolest things on Hedera
Also happy to see legends of the past Dave
Taki on is also one of the coolest things maybe neuron and taki on could be a pretty cool
Collaboration at some point and of course patches as well really happy. Yeah, super cool
Thank you for doing these spaces also amazing singing West Vesey
Rarely heard such a nice voice on the spaces
But yeah super happy to be here
That's tell me I've been seeing you all over the timeline being like what's going on with this h bar price
We're gonna keep it real in these spaces
Tell me what you're championing out there and exactly how we can help like I don't know like what exactly it is that you're doing
So give us a little bit of a give us a quick two-minute intro
Yes, I mean, I don't want to you know abuse this space for this but generally, you know, I saw Charles Atkins posted a community
Feedback type of document
I think a lot of the people are in Hedera because they bought H bar as an investment
Now it doesn't mean that Hedera sold H bar as an investment
So it doesn't have to constitute a security
But I do believe that the reality is that a lot of people buy cryptocurrencies as investments and you know
A lot of people were very upset because of different things
Never I didn't really expect so many people to respond to that both publicly and privately of me simply asking
What do you think is the reason why the H bar price is relatively low?
Compared to you know, the movements and other digital assets or the last year
Basically, what I did was to kind of conclude
the statements of the community into a document
and let anyone sign that document plus some
Suggestions again emphasis on suggestions of how this could potentially
To you know strengthen the ecosystem
Create more transactions on Hedera, but also very important point that I believe you know
By you know entities like Hedera, but also to really improve the price action of the H bar cryptocurrency
I think you know people who bought Solana at $8
When H bar was at 8 cents last year. They're now sitting on I know is it 110 120 95
Whatever dollars right? So and we're still at 8 cents and I think you know, it's important to
realize that in the end we're participants in the market and
Token of the network to also perform well according to how the met market is performing
We can't just ignore it. We can't say okay. We're a hundred-year network
Well, you know in hundred years most of us are gonna be dead
So let's make sure that we can do some great things now, and you know the power of now is
Create real success, but again, I don't want to abuse the space for this but happy to have a discussion
I definitely agree with a lot of criticisms towards my approach, but I think you know
Making people hear the voice of the hedera community as clear as possible. No matter what it takes
Is what I care about, you know and and I'm ready to lose relationships for that
I'm ready to you know lose money for that. I will not you know sacrifice my
Yeah ideals I think you're good that's you're good
I appreciate you doing that and patches Michael just so y'all know like I don't want this to be open
There is no intent of this being like open discussion
I really want to get that like the point of this is to ultimately highlight different projects
Who's doing what whether we agree disagree?
I think this needs to be or I would love for this to be that place
Where people can kind of come and just talk about what it is that they're doing and the cause that they're championing
So if y'all if y'all give me like literally two minutes, I'm gonna come back to you guys
I would love to go over to neuron. I know neuron. We just met and
You're I mean, this is the prime in obviously tats is speaking highly of you, but welcome. Nice to meet you. How are you?
Hi wolfy. Yeah, great. It's great to be on
I don't know what I should call you whether wolf is the right move the right the right term
But yeah, really good to me is James. I'm our CEO
And co-founder for neuron and just in case anyone there doesn't know who we are
We're basically building the everything map for deep in services
So a place where you can build find and connect deep in services
Where you have service providers on one side and customers on the other and we provide a bunch of tools
Which allow you to discover connect pay and protect for those service protect those services. So yeah, we're really excited to be on this spaces. Oh
Deep in baby. Let's get you remember that Thursday space. We have a Thursday space that no one's gonna be on too
neuron, what could okay guys I
Said I can't wait so nice to meet. Yeah, James pleasure
Where can we I guess like can you tell us just a little bit more James in terms of we got the high level?
But are we am I buying a?
Node from you. Am I buying a minor from you? What am I doing?
Yeah, sure. So basically our first use case, which we've got a lot of expertise in is in aviation
and these basically our we started off with the goal of trying to integrate drones into
Modern, you know what we have traditional airspace to modernize it and the problem is that it's all kind of analog not very digital
And we need to be able to see where where drones and aircraft are in the sky and you can do that by there's a range
Of different sensors out there that allow you to detect that
However, a lot of these networks you may may be familiar with things like flight radar 24
They work on centralized server platforms
And so what you need and when you're flying
Aircraft you need really really low latency. So high performance and single points of failure aren't particularly liked by regulators
So really needs to be decentralized
And obviously when you when it comes to things such as trying to you know
Where you've got big players coming into the market for them to build on top of you know
A single network adds a lot of counterparty risk to their business model because they're basically relying on it to fly
and if they're compared to get
Flight sensor network then
It puts them in also all sorts of a pickle
So really that's where we came from and we we realized that actually there's a better way to do this rather than
Setting up a global server network with you know, 150 servers like ADS-B exchange that has I think it's got about 150 servers around
The world just to keep just to manage all the data, you know, we're talking about gigabytes of data every day from each sensor
The better way to do that is actually use
Web 3 as kind of like a way to index where everything is
where also to start and stop services and then to audit the data that that goes through the network and
actually pushing the data directly from
And removing the need for sort of centralized servers and that's what Hadeer has enabled us to do
So we actually use all three parts of the hedera network
We use HCS, which is kind of like a temporary storage service
It allows us to push data there as a temporary measure and then also audit that at a later date if need if need needed
We use smart contracts for registering devices and services and also for our dispute resolution service
And then finally we using HTS for
It basically we basically providing we've actually come up with a way of using
with like an escrow service
so both parties need to agree for a payment to go through and then we have like the
Our dispute resolution service is the third party to decide in the case where the two people can't agree
And we've actually come up with a way using HTS to be able to do that, which I think by itself is super novel
So like there's going to be so much released in April. We're gonna have our live testnet public testnet
We're currently in private testnet and things are working really nicely, but we're we're launching on public testnet in April
That will include a 3d Explorer. So you'll be able to see sensors on the map
You'll be able to register them in the Explorer put them on the map and then anyone with the SDK
And in this built into their software can now access those sensors peer-to-peer
Basically get around about a hundred. We're still yet to decide exactly how many we're going to do
But between one and two hundred sensors, they're going to be around about five hundred pounds or about six hundred dollars each
And people people we are to buy them basically mine tokens from
For owning a sensor and contributing to that network
We've already got one customer who's already looking to buy buy
Buy data from people and we're just building that up and up and up, but we've got others in in a series of trials
We're doing drone delivery trials down in Cornwall for the NHS and for Royal Mail with our partner Skyport
We're doing a load of testing around Cranfield Airport
So we've actually got sensors going into four live operational airports over the next couple of months
So there's all sorts of really really cool stuff that's going on over here and and really focuses on aviation today
But we're looking for partners who want to build other kind of applications whether that's in IOT whether that's in, you know
decentralized deliver, you know food delivery
We kind of split them up into sort of three use three types of use case you have physical resources such as IOT
you have digital resources, which are things like file corn fire file coin and VPN networks and
Machine learning networks and then finally human resources. So things like to let you know delivery uber
Could be window cleaning all sorts. So really we're looking for the community to come up with ideas for applications
We give them those software applications grants to then pay the service providers
Initially to go and get the market moving and then and then really take the community
Take it in the way that the community wants it to go
Love it. Thank you so much. Naran. I shout you a follow
I definitely have to check this out and I see we've got legends. You're back. Are you able to hear us?
No legends, are you there?
All right, we'll move on to the next speaker
Okay, who's up here next Dave? We haven't tried it with you yet. How are you? Great. Thank you for having on. Thanks Metavision
Thanks. Well, thanks for all the speakers and all the community. I'm really excited about what's happening
I I guess I just wanted to say taki on I'm the founder and CEO of taki on we built
We're integrated with Hedera consensus service and we have a we're in a private beta
We sign up about 500 people and we'll be launching our mainnet in 2024
With the token and all that
And I just wanted to say a little bit about
What some of the services that we'll have on our mainnet so people can understand like what what is this? Well
One use cases you can just take your digital assets or NFT is anything on a metaverse and you can store it
Just like you'd store it with Filecoin or IPFS
We're gonna have a deep fake registry for photos and videos
I come from AI and and a lot of enterprise software and
I kind of built taki on based on the idea of being able to protect
Data going into machine learning and protecting from deep fakes
But we also just kind of realized that in the era of web 3
I mean you want not only do you want to control your keys to your universe and your metaverse?
But you want to control your own data and so
Decentralized is the way to go
We we are very different in that we have lots of patents. We do end-to-end data protection. So I won't go into it
I'll probably be just follow at taki on tweet calm and I'll be
Releasing a lot of kind of the trying to explain some of the technical aspects of what we do
But essentially we're fully on chain
And so we use the hederic public network to create a record in a cryptographic hash
But we actually have our own private blockchain that all the data actually goes on and there's a whole lot more to that though
Technically, but it's really it's really exciting and what we're doing is we're doing it
Differently than say some people are doing it what which we're trying to build a huge
large community of users, so
Really what we're focused on now is is the hederic community and then we'll go to a multi-chain and the rest of world and then
We'll we'll bring in enterprise later when we have a very large community and user base
Because right now it could be consumed from a web 3 browser, but we also have an SDK. We have an API and
The last thing I'll say cuz I'm trying to keep it brief cuz I see how many speakers are here
If you guys we're just trying to build a big community and there's gonna be some
Probably in the next 10 days. I'm gonna make some pretty big announcements like this can't I'm under India
I can't talk about them, but it all I can say is it's about building a much larger community
It's about multi-chain and it's about making Hedera
The hederic community larger as well as branching out into other communities
and so there's some really exciting things that just watch watch my tweets and
All I could say is just yeah, everybody on this panel is just these are the people that I want to be
Hanging out with and doing things in the future and I've been kind of stealth up to now
But things are really kind of moving fast now, so I'm really excited about it
Amazing. There are some yeah, there are some ridiculous projects. I love this stuff Gex, right?
This is super exciting David just shot you a follow as well
Super super excited to see what you guys are gonna create over there. Yeah, Dave met a vision like this space
There's so many people in this space. I think right now that everyone's like I can't hear this one
I can't hear that one. I can't hear this one
Legend. Hold on. I'm gonna I'm gonna type two legends. We're gonna we're gonna make this yeah, I'm here. I'm here. Yeah
Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I don't know what happened
The voice like video anyway, I'm here it's a pleasure to be here guys a pleasure to jumping in this space
I was looking forward to it. So I'm glad to be here. I see many family your faces here
I'm also to keep it short, but I'm basil French name or but you can call me bass
I've been building games for the last five years on my own and for my company that I created
We started with educational game that we work with a French middle school
But implementing our games who helps you a student learn the class and for the last year one year
I have pretty much I've been working on legends of the past which is not an educational game
But a pure entertainment entertainment experience that is integrated and implemented on header on a perch
And on this second, you know game
In comparison to what we were building before
Where we were a startup with a lot of junior talent for this project
Who reached the ambition of creating a really mass market video game?
We've hired some of the best person in the gaming industry
Some of our team members such as our creative and art director commit enough has been working
Over the last more than 20 years in the gaming industry
But namely at supercell where where he has worked on clash of claims clash for y'all
World styles and even clash me and some of the new games that are about to be
Our game designer Marvin has been working at anyway
I'm not gonna say all the name and previous plans, but we are team members who have worked on gaming tips both mobile PC and also
Multi-platform such house, you know PlayStation and we are building a game based on people that shape history
This is a new IP. So we'll be playing with people that marked history. Our first legend publicly is Cleo
But pay attention our Cleo is not the Cleo patra. You may have studied in school. No, our Cleo is way different
Queen of my ties meaning that she has rolled on Egypt
but based on for boxing might I scale and each of the legend that we are featuring in our game all of them have
all of them have a glitch something different from their it's probably called counterparts and
So we are working very very hard on the game development
We are grunty of both the age bar foundation and the high gravitation as well
We've had quite a some business and those who have invested in our company as a studio. I think this is important. You're not
Video game project which can be sometimes the game
But now we are in cooperative company with people who have worked on gaming hit and we know what we are building
And we are aiming I'm not gonna say this without we are aiming for an alpha release
But if you're going on this course, we can find some elements
But we are aiming for more for an alpha playable release open to our community
This year in the following month. I'm gonna be big and and yeah, I'm very excited
You're very happy to be here. And yeah, but my last thing that I would say is so we are busy very
Kick-ass, you know mobile game a little bit more about the gameplay
We have some components of brawlers such as all stars. Basically, you'll be playing with your legends going around
But it's not a brawler. It's not yet another brawler, but it's something different
we have some PvE with operation meaning that you'll be playing around with the environment as well and
Legend of the past is the journey to space time and history
So basically you enter multiple, you know, arenas and each of them in different, you know
Different timelines, so sometimes you'll be way like ancient times medieval times Egyptian times
But sometimes going forward you'll also be playing in futuristic
Cyberprank, you know like arenas and we are implementing some very
Yeah, pretty stuff that all incorporated our glitch element that I mentioned at the beginning
Yeah, and so I'm very very much looking forward to be discussing with you guys to tell you more
That's what we are building. And yeah, I wanted to compute on this to present what we are building
So we are printing a very cool mobile game. What's important as well is
We have the team and the experience to build a gameplay that is fun enough
And you know in another directions that can last for a decade and therefore we've taken
Lot of our like we've taken into account this and the potential that we have in terms of mass market
To implement a sustainable tokenomics and I think this is really important is I am a member like my company and myself
We are member of the blockchain game Alliance, which is an alliance of many of the most
Important web to games and as a member of this, you know Alliance
We are very close close to many of tokenomics advisor who are helping me on that and we are implementing
Yeah, sustainable we were loop. What does this mean?
Is there are a whole variety of web to games that decided to tokenize everything like implementing all of what could be done in?
A video game turning it into an NFT because it's fun school whatsoever
but most of these games I believe are may be doing it wrong because you need to understand and to anticipate for the
Basic economics which is supply versus demands and if everything in your game is can be turned into a token
Whether I be fungible or not. Well, the thing is you are only attracting speculator investors
And the thing is what the game grow well, ultimately the number of asset will increase as well
so there's always a moment or a time and which you have
Left people, you know entering your game and therefore people are more willing to sell the asset than really use them
And we are doing it very differently in our game of academics. We are implementing, you know, NFTs within the game
We are waiting what we call the legend committees people who purchase the NFT of Clio our member of Clio committee
And are eligible to financial rewards. But what's really really important is
web to gaming is not magical and I insist on that because I'm
Tired of the last two years of seeing many games on all chains that promise a promise
You know the moon saying okay, we're all gonna we get rich together. It's magical money flows from everywhere
But it's simple if everyone
If you if you're earning into the video game, the money must come from someone either from the game itself that is
Rewarding you with your token
But if they are only giving it away while there is an incentive
For people to sell because so you don't do to all this because you are earning it for free
Um, and so anyway, yeah, i'll stop in here because that could take four hours
Looking forward to if you have questions
Let's go I love that legends
Yeah, no you are super pumped about this
This is exactly the type of person that needs to be building a game in the web 3
Love it. Cannot wait to check this out and guys real quick. Um, if I bump you down, uh, I still love you
Um, i've just got to rotate some people, you know what I mean?
But uh, let's say hi to the hedera account. I don't know who's but mv
I don't know who's behind the hedera account. Like are they a mystery like you too? Hi hedera
Some of you may know me as defy girl xoxo on twitter
I'm the community development rep for hedera
And i'm so happy to be here to support the space
And I just want to say thank you to wolf and metavision and miss gecko for
Hosting this beautiful community roundup. I'm so happy to be here. Oh and shout out to vessi. I loved your song
Um, love to be here for it. So yeah, just happy to be here in support if you guys have any feedback or
Would like any help with some co-marketing?
We are looking to do some user generated content from the community
Um, i'm actually working with solo on getting that going for one of his pieces
So that'll be pretty exciting. So yeah, if you guys want to work with me, just shoot me a dm on my defy girl account
Yeah, just happy to be here with everybody. Maybe I can jump in on that because i'm uh
I'm actually discussing about this with alex from the foundation
But the thing is like in two weeks from now, there is like nft paris
Occurring in paris and I will be speaking at the side event between nft paris and the blockchain game alliance
And yeah, I I offered and I said to alex that I could technically speak about hedera and spread the world that i'm always
Doing but I believe there is a co-marketing strategy that because I will be speaking and showing some
Element of legend of the past but I would love to also mention hedera and yeah, uh, yeah in japan
So, let me know getting those dm
Basil yeah, shoot me a dm on if you can on my defy girl account, uh, we can get something sorted together
Let's go mica. Thanks for joining us
Yeah, very nice to meet you mica. I can't wait to work with you guys
2024 like who agrees 2024 is going to be litty like I can't get over
Um, I want to go to solo if you can hang for a little bit. I know we have like a quick little
Uh music reset if that's okay with you. Can you hang tight for a little bit longer?
Uh, marika, what's up? How are you?
Hi. Hi everyone. What's up? I'm great
Uh, so my name is maritza i'm from kresha and i'm a violinist and a singer
And it's so cool to be here. It's a big space. Wow
I'm a little nervous now. Me too. Me too. Me too. Don't worry
I'm nervous too, but uh, you're probably gonna do a lot better than I am. So, uh, yeah
Okay, so this is my original that is currently minting on token track it's called I so long for you i'm gonna play with violence so
Now i'm alone feeling like i've lost my pride
Try to forget but the memories won't fade
Oh had a world at our feet nothing could bring us down
Somewhere down the road we'll let it all just dry
And we try to make it right
But in the end our love's gonna run the fight
I still love for your touch and the way you used to smile
I regret letting go when I miss you all the while
I wish I could turn back time to what you were mine
To relive the love we had
Had a world at our feet nothing could bring us down
Somewhere down the road we'll let it all just dry
And we try to make it right
But in the end our love's just gonna win the fight
I still love for your attention the way you used to smile
I regret letting go when I miss you all the while
I wish I could turn back time to what you were mine
To relive the love we had
I wish I could turn back time
And make it all just fine
I forgot to take the bow from my violin case. So it was all just plucking and I realized it during the song
So very there's some concord there but nobody noticed I can promise you that
Nobody and if they did they probably didn't give a shit. That was amazing. That was incredible. Really really incredible. Thank you
Damn some talented people live in this space
Holy shit, that was that was really really amazing. I can't get over this
This is like why did it take this line to be doing weekly hedera spaces with medivision?
Where you been all our lives? Uh, i've been waiting so long to say that where have you been all my life medivision?
Anyways, um, we got some new speakers up here
But real quick right before I uh, I want to go to solo
But real quick right before I go to solo neuron check this out. I got a guy in the in uh,
Listening in the audience. He said he wants to work with you after hearing what it is that you guys do
He's a pretty big time vc. He's got a lot of portfolio companies and he said let's
Tell him to open up his dms. I can't message him. So we making shit happen out here, man
So neuron open those dms up, bro
I'll do that straight away. Yeah, no worries. What what is it? What is his name?
I'll hit you in the dms. Once you open them
Cool i'll have a look i'll have a look
All right, you guys like that because we're conducting business. Uh, yeah right right before solo dave. What's good?
Anything you want you want to turn me on?
Great. So we never have to be a place for extra evidence
Yeah, dave right before I go over to solo dave you want you want to say something?
Uh, you're talking about uh, well if you're talking about me, I already spoke actually. Um, yeah, your hand was up
Oh, no, i'm sorry. I thought it's like my bad
Oh, there you go. You were just I just don't understand how to use this thing yet. Sorry i'm going offline. I mean i'm gonna go mute here
It's all good. We just want to make sure we didn't skip over you that's all thanks
Yo mika's here mika what like i'm so happy like what's up mika?
I spoke to you. I know I can
Solo thank you so much for being patient and for dealing with my nonsense. Um, I very much appreciate it. Uh, welcome
Um, tell us a little bit about you your project what you got going on. Um, i'm anxious to hear it, man. Thank you
Yeah, yo, what's up, can you guys hear me? Yes, sir
Oh awesome. Uh, yeah, no nice to to see everybody. It's been uh, great a great a couple of days on twitter
It seems like the energy has been infectious
So excited to see the community super excited for the bull marketer what appears to be ahead of us
Um, but yeah, no i'm happy to give a little intro. Uh, my name is solo cf. I'm the co-founder and CEO of calyxi
Um, we are the social wallet built on hadera
I should also note that my co-founder is spencer dinwiddie who is uh, the newest los angeles laker
Um, he's a point guard for them. So we're super excited to have him down in l.a
Um, but uh, yeah, no, so we are called the social wallet. I think what we've been known for
For the most time is that we're a um a marketplace that allows content creators to very easily monetize
And basically productize any type of experience so similar to the cameo or patreon with a lot more
Features what makes uh, you know our experience unique is that there's a full, you know x like social media experience
You have your home feed your discover page where you can see a lot of different
Cool experiences with creators that you can buy
You have messages as well. Um, and then your wallet, uh tabs
So we call ourselves a social wallet because what we do is
We marry a lot of these traditional social media paradigms with the wallet experience so that
Things like, you know paying a friend back with crypto are as easy as sending a dm within our app
And so or monetizing your platform, you're very easily able to do so
By setting up your own shop and offering those creator experiences
You know, I also mentioned that you know with being the social wallet
We another way to think about quality is also unlocking endless socio
Socioeconomic utility from that wallet and so we believe in a world where sending, you know
Assets should be as easy as sending a picture if I were to ask you
You know, how would you send a picture to your friend that you took?
Um, you would either go to your gallery click the image share it with xyz person or go to that conversation
Um and attach the image and share and sending crypto or an nft
Is there any digital asset of any kind should be nor no no more difficult than that
Um, and so we believe in a world where you take the world of a social, you know platform like a twitter or an x
You know marry that social graph with a wallet interface and all of a sudden real life can start to happen on chain
And so that's something that we're super excited about. Um, you know late last year
Um, you know we call it dm's the superpowers
And so when you get a video message from your favorite creator, it shows up right in your dm
But similarly we thought to ourselves what if sending crypto was done, you know exactly that way until late last year spencer and I went
Um in front of millions of people and actually sent 500 dollars, uh on live on tv 500 us h usdc
On the hadara network, which we were super excited about and so again
Yeah, we call ourselves the social wallet. We believe in a world where your wallet should be able to call your friends
We think your wallet should be able to be monetized
For an online business. We think a world where you should be able to create token gated experiences in your social feed interact with your friends
Um, we believe in a world, uh, where you know a wallet should be able to connect to door dash and be able to pay for your food
Um, we just believe in a world where the wallet actually does things
Um that really makes sense to end users and again really bringing real life on chain is our goal and mantra
Um, and we put some recent, uh, you know announcements out today with uh, you know
Some sort of incentives and rewards around it. Um, so I won't go too long or too deep, uh there
But obviously really appreciate, um, you know this community, uh, we've been a builder in the space for quite some time now
Um, super exciting to see all the different projects building on hadara
But spencer and I came to hadara in 2020 and we're one of the you know early projects, especially on the consumer side
Um to to to have really gone there, uh, and really built, um, you know to have been building over the last couple of years
Why did you choose a dare solo? Why hadara?
Uh, there's a lot of things why not hadara
No, i'm just kidding. Um, no, I mean, I think uh, there's a lot of different answers
You know, I think uh when you're thinking about something like calyxi and what we're trying to do with it
You know, we are releasing a feature tonight. Um, very soon
You'll be able to sms text anybody crypto or you know nfts or anything without them even having a wallet set up
What it does is because of our web app, it will just text them in their iMessage or whatever. They'll get a link
Um, they install that uh, they you know save to home screen that link and they're very easily able to enter in their phone number
Um the crypto reward incentives and you know super exciting times because you know, I think a lot of people
Haven't used crypto to actually pay a friend back for something, right?
And I think we're all experts in the space and we take problem with that
We aren't experts until we start using our technology at least or maybe we are experts
But we need to start using your technology. Um, but back to your question about hadara
Um, you know when you're thinking about that seamless experience that we're looking for
Um, you know you really you really want um, you know
You really want a lot of those that the the the problems with the nascent early technologies in the space have made the user journey
That we're searching for a lot different
So things with hadara being asynchronous Byzantine fault tolerant being high throughput scalable
It kind of allows us to you know as a pre-packaged, you know basis offer an experience where you know
We're not really worried about
Gas fees calyxi can you know cover those gas fees and it makes economic sense to do so the predictable fee structure
Is really what businesses need to actually build long growth, you know growing businesses because you need to be able to project out
You know, so your long tails and eras and things like that
You know above all else too, just the you know
The the corporate buy-in, you know
These are partners that we'd want, you know to
To to to be partnered with and you know the company that we'd want to be you know
With and being able to go to davos was you know, really exciting time with the hadara community
Um, so with the hadara team that was out there
So, you know, hopefully we can go out get a door dash partnership pay for reflew to crypto and calyxi and you know
A group council member a governing council member would be an ideal sort of, you know opportunity or a dream for us
But yeah hadara has been a big supporter of ours for a long period of time and we're you know
Proudly built on hadara you heard that general council if you're listening to this replay hook my boy solo up. Let's go
Solo, um, I will gladly come work for you. Um, just make a quick intro to spencer din witty. I love laker floor seats
I am in los angeles just outside
uh the crypto.com arena maybe like a half hour away, you know, so uh
Uh, if you feel the need i'm just saying i'm just saying
We're uh, we're out here. We're out here all the time. We're we we're not hard to find
Um, we'll have to link up in l.a. Sometime. I mean i'm not down there presently, but
He's super excited. He's from l.a. Actually, so it's like a whole
Thing for him to to go back and sit up for the lakers. We're all really happy for him. That's awesome
Yeah, I was I was a big den witty fan actually back in the nets days
Like i'm a brooklyn kid born and raised so like I was at barkley's arena for so many different games
So yeah, yeah, he had a bag. He has a bag. He has a little bag. He got in his bag down there
Yeah, I love it. I love it. Hey solo. Thank you so much, man
I appreciate you being patient obviously that was incredible
Like if anybody and look for anybody that obviously like that is listening obviously
This is our first time doing this
So we don't really have the exact format of how this is supposed to work
So like a like solo just don't be shy to ask for what you need
You know what I mean? Like because you don't know who's going to go back and listen to this
Let's figure this out together
Cool. All right solo. Appreciate it. Um
Who do we have next the utility?
The utility the utility company
I know the utility company
And don't forget we've had orbit. Thanks for having us. Oh
Orbis i'm coming right to you
Right after right after utility company
Um, yeah, thanks for having us in the space glad to have uh, the ears of the hedera group here, um
And it's awesome that meta and you guys are throwing this appreciate meta vision a lot for being kind of like
I don't know like a foundation in this space. Really? It's amazing. But
Um, we are the utility company. If you don't know i'll give you a quick two-minute thing. We build out
industrial automation pipelines
So automated factories plants etc that you can remote control and create your own outputs
The whole goal is to create more than you consume
And we are planning on switching over to hedera
I mean we're a group of engineers academics
And so we're kind of arguing it out right now
But a lot of us are leaning on the hedera side especially because of the graph, right? Like it's network theory
You can add on to it. You can you know, it adds a whole other dimension in terms of analysis and stuff
So it's really interesting
But what we wanted to really ask was in terms of compliance and I don't know if anybody here can answer this really but
How does the hash graph play to?
Oh, are you posing that question to us or is that rhetorical can I can I pose that question?
Is this like a question? Um, if you want to ask it again, maybe we can get somebody to answer it
But I think you might be better off just pitching for right now
Are you I couldn't catch the whisper there I got a dog that's deaf and he's kind of rolling around like a cannon
What dave is saying you use this time to let us know about what you
If you can answer otherwise, we're still reading the docs
But if you don't know about you hear miss gecko, I don't guess I don't think anybody hears you. I genuinely don't believe I can hear her
I heard it. I heard her. Oh
Oh, i'm rocking. I gotta go down and come back. All right, see we'll find an answer to your question
Uh, I didn't really know what it was just pitch us. I mean pitch pitch everybody
I think uh the utility company they were asking about
Compliance like in terms of compliance. Where does hedera stand? That's what their question was
You want to you want to help them answer the question? I can't speak on behalf of hedera
But hedera at least from their initial days, you know, they have been um
And so I we do host events and stuff at hedera right so they have been
Um, I don't know if screwed is the right word. Um, unless you know
if you don't look at it in a negative context, but hedera has been
extremely cautious in ensuring that what they do is um
The right way to you know, get things done
So for example, even hedera had a pre-sale but it was with accredited investors
Right that makes a lot of difference
When um, you do it with accredited
Accredited investors just like what we saw with the xrp ruling for example, right because um
Accredited investors given the fact that they have more money than what retail investors would normally have they are um, they
Generally thought of as folks who know what they are doing and they can take on larger risk appetites
So when you host a token sale with accredited investors versus retail investors makes a whole lot of difference
So right from that pre-sale that started to where hedera is right now
They have been doing a lot in terms of charting that um, hedera is, you know
As compliant as possible with scc, etc. Um hedera
The token itself was not launched in the us
So there is that thing to consider but of course, we know that you know the us regulatory scenario unfortunately doesn't allow us to be
A very flexible with what we're doing in us. That being said hedera had filed for um
Something with scc and i'm not the best person to give a breakdown of what it was
But I believe that was to you know, clarify that hedera is not a security and they did file a motion for exemption
Scc and again, I don't have the document in front of me. So I can't give you an overview
But that's also one of the reasons why you have so it's such a strong
Like you know, if you just go back and look at hedera's governing council, right like you have the biggest
Who are who have their names associated with hedera and companies like google service now boeing
These companies won't do that in light wane because remember these companies when you say they're the governing council
They literally are the validators for hedera, you know
They are infrastructure that's validating all the transactions on hedera with hedera being a permission chain
So there's just yeah, you know just my few cents answering that question
I may have not fully answered the question, but I hope I provided a little more perspective
I'm happy to chime in too as well. Just as like an early builder
I guess in just terms of you know, my my experience just given that uh
I come from the world of financial services as a as a banker or ex-banker. I'd say
Um, I think the best word to describe it
I think the word orbis was looking for is like prudent
Like I think the hedera approach to decentralization was quite practical in nature
like I think the best way to think about it is you know, and if in Lehman is such a
Such a weapon for the ecosystem because he speaks really well to this and you know
I think just even conversation overheard at davos, um, you know when you think about the
power of decentralized technologies and like going back in time to like 2018 2019 and you're seeing this blossom technology
what became really important I think in in the foresight of hedera the project was really understanding that like
um, you know the complete trip opacity with how
These these networks came to be with something that we inevitably would not you know scale really well toward past the point of like
governing bodies around the world right and so the idea of creating the governing council as a means to
establish governance for what at the time is a you know blossoming technology that's you know exploding it's kind of that prudent approach to
Decentralized world right we are going to decentralize ourselves over time methodically in the right way versus kind of
You know the approach that some you know other you know, uh other projects at the time
That leaned a little bit heavy on that decentralization concept early on
It's you know, it's it ends up with different results
right and I think you can kind of see that based off of the ways in which
You know legal proceedings and the ways in which the sec and governing bodies within the u.s. Have approached the ecosystem
and you know some of the in some of the the
Different types of news that had hit in the way in which it impacted
You know Hedera has largely been kind of you know kept outside the scope because of you know
That prudent approach and so when you think about different technologies to build on each chain has its fair share of benefits
A lot of them are focused on scalability and predictable fee structures, but I think what Hedera has
Sorry, not predictably see structures, but you know scalability and speed
But I think what Hedera does is like the practical means to governance
But also the practical means of like building business and enterprise, right?
So like the predictable fee structure is something important for like a company like calyxi
Or really any sort of a lot of these businesses, especially web2 businesses
Easy and plug and play for these people to understand this technology they govern it and they also
Have business terms that make sense of them whereas like, you know
A lot of these other you know projects and ecosystems force you to understand or think about these technologies differently and think about
Unpredictable fee structures and what that means for creating a business like that stuff isn't practical
Practical to go into walmart and be like, hey, can you like bring your supply chain here on Hedera?
Like that won't work, you know as easily. Um, so again, sorry long answer
But hopefully that's helpful in terms of at least my opinion on it
But just a just a couple other thoughts just from a perspective of like an early builder if that makes sense
Yeah, I think the you got the word I think spot-on prudent it just makes sense
I think you we have this kind of notion that uh, we need to avoid compliance or decentralization is an escape from the current regulatory framework
And I don't think that's the case, right?
Like we need to kind of understand how these technologies can work symbiotically with the current existing framework and help it evolve
Adaptive or open and accessible and all that stuff but
Um, I think like from our perspective
It's really interesting because you have like the governing council, right?
So you already have these major institutions and although that gives kind of like this air of centralization to things
But the fact that you have your major institutions willing to consider
Experiences at the moment, but like, you know, hopefully done line proper compliance structures on the graph
Right, and I think that is something we all need to be moving towards and especially they're like we are
Through one of our subsidiaries working with trying to start working with the indian government and other governments to implement
You know regulatory frameworks or certain types of specialized dows, right like political dows
and I think you know, the biggest issue has been
a reliable firstly like estimate of you know, the cost of compliance but then
reliable and sustainable mode of compliance as well
I think hadera kind of provides both of that if you are
Kind of trying to if you're thinking at the level of building out institutions on a blockchain
I think hadera is kind of the way we have to lean
I'm gonna go and fire or at least beat up all these engineers on our end
We're like, oh no hadera right now because just doesn't make sense anymore. Okay
Yeah, and also just want to share that in dubai
Not just with the government of india, but the bayi also hadera is actually doing a lot so
With uae with south eorabia. In fact a new innovation center was launched. That's about 250 million
It's valued at 250 million. I believe
The local government there or an investment firm is putting in 200 million hadera's providing 50 million in grants and that's for
Companies of that three companies building in drayad and similarly even with rokta, which is rasselle kemah
Hedera has a partnership there as well. The hbar foundation will be funding projects that are building in drug in in rak
Um, rather more than the government of dubai it's with the financial sectors the bifc codes for folks and finances if they're aware of it
Nftz on hadera the hadera communities know what what that is
so, um mohammed he is working with the hbar foundation on um
Putting the transactions with the difc code on hadera
So if you just go back and look at all the governments that are actually building on hadera
They must be doing something directly
Yeah, so just to clarify like the deal that was struck right it was a five-year agreement
Uh valued at 250 million with the saudi ministry of investment
Right with the hashgraph, uh association and they announced. Um, what's called what's going to be called the deep tech venture studio
Yep, which is really cool. Yeah
Go ahead over. Sorry. Oh, no. No, I said that that's right. Yes the 250 million that's 200 million in investment coming in from
Um from the investment firm and then 50 million from hashgraph association as we said it
Let's go we are making moves out here, um, good stuff guys, I appreciate the clarity
Utility company like good for you guys for obviously selecting hadera. I'm happy. Um, yeah, we
Gex, where are we going? I'm a little turned around
I could take the I mean without answering the question. I could take my chance at the mic if they're of this time
Absolutely, go ahead orbis and then we'll say hi to sappy. Hey, thanks gecko
And by the way a huge shout out to everyone down there. I also see vet there. That actually is the founder of xrp cafe
that's an amazing nft marketplace on xrp and
But we are also launching our collection on xrp
We are actually a cross chain project and I see a lot of lovely folks down there in the audience all the way from
KB king permeable fat boy walders
Um, I know a lot of folks down there. I see darula bobby a lot of great folks building on hadera
Oh also two doors there if you guys get a chance you should bring two door up on stage
You know whenever we have the chance because two door actually is the founder of headstarter
Which is an incubator and accelerator on hadera?
So he will also have a lot of insights to offer on what the hadera ecosystem is plus when it comes to defy
Two door is the guy. So i'm not going to pitch orbis 86 here
But I know in the beginning we started off with questions on
Uh, hey, you know what's with the price of hadera and I know it's not a few any
But I also wanted to just share some thoughts. Um
And these are again my personal opinions, right?
So I do agree that when we look at the price of bitcoin
Then if you look at the price of hadera, it doesn't seem all that attractive, right?
Because at its all-time high hadera had been at 50 cents
Well, here's the thing personally me as a builder in web3 and also we host a lot of irl events and all of our events
Are really based on how do you use web3 to build the next generation of applications on?
How do you build decentralized applications on web3?
worst is just talking about the speculative price and how will web3 create the next
50 100 or 50 000 more millenials
Millenials, I mean, you know, there's absolutely no nothing wrong with making money along the way
But we personally look at web3 as the next generation of uh internet
That's that's literally what web3 stands for, right? So just with that perspective
If I come back and look at hadera and look at all the strides that they're making for example just today hadera
Today or yesterday the hpr foundation actually announced that hey
They are creating. I don't know if they have even given a grant or not
but they did post a thread about a maritime app that's being built on hadera and
They actually got attacked for it, which I was like, what are we doing as community members?
You know, I mean, I understand that building a maritime app isn't necessarily helping the retail investors
The entire space of web3 even from an investment speculation standpoint is lesser than like what 10 years old
You're not even you're hardly a decade old 12 2012 or 13 is literally when we even had any kind of markets being established around
around crypto trading and we know
The beginning like with mount gawks and stuff. It was such a disaster because people were literally wiring funds to some account
And uh, then, you know, if you're lucky you're going to get paid, right?
So the actual mature market has not even been around for a decade and compare that to even the stock market
The stock market has been around for well over a century now
And we have already gone through like, you know, a couple of big depressions and the stock market still can't get their shit, right?
So that being said in the crypto market as well, even in the trading market, we are lesser than a decade old
So if you are looking at parameters, please get a holistic view rather than looking at a single metric
Most of the folks who crib about the price of hedera
They're only looking at the price point
But I literally have just the coin market cap open in front of me, right? And if you look at the price
So for example for comparison in 2020, let's say right in 2020
6 000 ish, I think we all remember that those days, right? So 2020 when bitcoin was around at 6 000 hedera was at 3 cents
Today bitcoin is at 40 000
Right and hedera is at 7 cents. Of course, you know in terms of the price it doesn't seem like oh
Not not that big of a jump because bitcoin is at
50 000 hedera is at like 8 cents 8 centers, right?
So obviously hedera hasn't grown much. But then if you just swap over your indicator to market cap
Um at at one point in march 2020 the market point cap for bitcoin was 90 billion and that for hedera
Was uh 90 million, right? So 90 million with an m for hedera and 90 billion with the big b
That was the price market cap of bitcoin
fast forward, uh three years three four years later right now in 2024, right the market cap for bitcoin is about
I'm going to say 800 to 900 billion right so 10 times the increase
The market cap for hedera. However
At this point is 2.5 billion
Now if you compare that to the 90 million obviously, you know, it's a much higher increase. That's like over
Right and also if you look at the amount of hedera that was in circulation in 2020 versus the amount of hedera
That's in circulation now
There's a huge gap and wolf i'll come to you for the question
Right. So the reason i'm even bringing up bringing up the circulating cap. I think bitcoin circulating
Token supply in this two three years has increased by
10 20 and unfortunately, I don't have the circulating supply in front of me
But anyone who can look at it, maybe you know, you can show some numbers
But as hedera a lot of the folks in the community call it dumping
Because hedera has released a lot of token supply in the past
A couple of years so a lot of community members are like, oh, you know, they're dumping on us
But here's the thing if that dump was to happen later in the market, right? So for example, if right now you have
tokens being released into circulation
It's actually a good thing guys because you know what would happen if something falls from five cents to four cents
We are really not going to
Even just literally this is from an investment standpoint again. This is not financial advice
This is me as an individual even looking at the charts, right?
So at this time if you have more tokens being released in supply when already the price is low
There isn't that big of a market impact
Because anyone who has been in the defy space for even four five years
Or even a couple of years and is really looking at defy
The one thing that you know is whenever there are a large cliff large token unlock events the price
Generally goes down and depending on how much liquidity is being unlocked it drops by a lot
the more circulating the more tokens that you have in circulation the lesser is
The price impact and volatility and honestly none of our tokens have yet reached that
Position. Yes. Well, i'll go to you. You go on tell me what yeah, no, no, it's okay
I only want to be respectful of everybody's time because we're already 10 minutes past the hour
And I appreciate obviously like all of the insight tats is going crazy down there tats
I don't think i'm gonna have the time to let you back up hit it in the comments
I didn't even get to the comments. I know I know
Next week you're gonna have to come back. Yeah, please please please and yeah, I hate that though
I hate like when somebody's saying something you want to rebuff. I yeah, I wish we could I wish we had time but
Yeah, i'm good. I'm good. I rest my case
Thank you orbis. I appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you
Um, we got to wait real quick before we go to sapphire. I know seminal was up here
Seminole if you want to go fairly quickly, I don't want to rush you you will be the first to like for us up next week
Again, we're going to be doing this every single monday
So I don't want to rush anybody. Um, we do have to go
I I do have a hard stop in literally like 60 seconds like a minute
But yeah, I kind of I again, I don't want to rush you
So if you feel like you want to just say what's up, honestly, we could probably go maybe another
Four or five minutes. I would say tops tops tops
Hi wolf good to be here. Um
Thank you for having me up
It's been a it's been a great lesson so far
And thank you metaverse for um reaching out to me and uh, inviting me along
Um, i'm not sure how much time you've got. Yeah, you're running over. So i'm not sure what you'd do
What what you'd like out of me today?
Um, you know what how about this? I'm I got something special for next week for you
So if you don't mind i'm gonna say hi to sapphire you come back next week
I'm going to throw you on the graphic. We'll blow this whole thing up. Nice. Nice
And yeah, I want to get a whole new round of other like speakers and different projects as well if that's okay
Um, you good with that seminal?
I'm fine with that. That's cool. Appreciate you. Look forward to it
I was uh, obviously I popped in metavision sent me this and i'm like I gotta show love to wolf and like
For sure you are the pie piper in metavision and miss gecko or like kalese because y'all bring all the the milkshake brings all the boys
To the arts. I was gonna say hey and I was gonna do a musical break
But since you're ending i'll table that um and just show some love and I am um
I am obviously doing you know, the mix the rotny jerkins mix tape
So just want people to tap in with me. I have a lot of new music that's coming and all that jazz
But I just really want to say hey and the next time i'll be ready
To show some love and give you the musical break that you need in between your segments. So
Sapphire that would be amazing and we'd love for you to come back again and tell us about what you are doing
As you're building with the culture cards, but you also have your own music
You can check her out on sound xyz folks. Definitely do that. So sapphire i'd love for you to come up and chat with
I miss you and then even two little little little little alpha
I am working with one of the first it's going to be the first
Medicines on the blockchain remedy and hedera seems like it's going to be the route that we take there's more on that to come
But yeah, i'm just gonna i'll tap in i'll leave that for for now. And yeah, i'm just gonna i've been loving it
First of all, this is so informative
Sometimes it feels like drinking water from a fire hose, but I know i'm rejuvenating all the cells brain cells i destroyed
So thank you for everything y'all do
Metafision you're trying to sink my boat. You're supposed to make me look better as a host
You're letting 17 000 more people up and I that I have to say no to what the hell
But yes, thank you sapphire for coming up. Appreciate it. And thank you for waiting
I know like dave said we've got so many amazing speakers up here
Uh, it's been great. Like I I just can't believe this space today. It's amazing
Somebody take us out. I want to stay I promise I want to stay but no seriously
We do gotta we do gotta bounce guys like
Metafision you're such a shit
You're you're in control wolf. You're such a shit
Metavision are you are you not gonna play us out with the music at least give us a little give us some bumper music
Why she's not gonna do it. She ain't gonna do it
Get the fire to play her song to just conclude unless resi had sappy. Yeah good good call orbis
Let's go. All right. Let's make it quick and painless
This is for all the love birds because I know uh single awareness day which y'all call valentine's day is coming up
Hopefully you can hear me
With you unexpected and it's so
Never felt like this before i'm telling you I want more
It is such a better world
I put that on my mama i'm in love
Let me tell you all about it
That it was possible to be with a person
I think I need need need you every day
Peace love and light y'all. That's the way you cap off the space. Have a good day everybody. Peace