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Hey Bankr 📺 ft @mleejr & @grok $DRB
Recorded: Jan. 8, 2026 Duration: 0:45:19Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the launch of Grok's first coin and the innovative Grokipedia project, highlighting trends in user account integration with crypto wallets. The conversation underscored Grok's growth potential and its strategic positioning in the market, alongside insights into fundraising through asset management.
Full Transcription
Thank you. you
hey what's up everybody happy Wednesday everybody's having a good Wednesday. What's going on?
How are you, man?
Hey there.
I've got a co-host spot, huh?
Yeah, you're official.
That's great.
Yeah.
So, I mean, I feel, I think, I think we need to like immediately get into, uh,
I don't know whatever we want to talk about tonight because aren't you,
isn't your presence requested elsewhere?
Like exactly at this time right now.
Yeah. I told him I was going to come here first and then,
and then we head over there.
but I mean,
you don't run these like super long from,
from what I remember. No, no. Yeah but I mean, you don't run these like super long from, from what I remember. No, no.
I mean, occasionally we've had like, you know, there has been a couple spots where like,
like there's been a couple spots like, uh, Aspen showed up one time and man, it's like,
there's a couple of people that they know a lot and then they have a lot to say about
a lot, which is really informative. And so it's like, you know, Aspen basically gave us like a lecture, like a really when I say lecture, you know, like in the most like, you know, studious, informative way.
Not like he's like, you know, chastising us and talking down to us, but like, you know, like a professor.
chastising us and talking down to us, but like, you know, like, like, like a professor.
And that went on for about an hour and a half. And then we just hung out afterward. But like,
but no, I mean, we can, we can make this thing be short and sweet if we want to,
so that we can all flood the other space, because I know that they have a bigger reach than,
than I do. And, uh, you know,
you have a lot of awesome things to say that a lot of, you know,
a lot of people could really benefit from hearing. So, um, you know,
and I support all of that. So, uh, you know,
we'll hang out here for a little bit and then we can go support you over
there.
Yeah, that's great.
So what were you thinking about going into?
know you know i i tend to pay attention to just a few people pretty closely and i think i have
notifications turned on from you because i just like hearing what you say and and it's like all
of a sudden maybe in the last two days you you just it's like i don't know man it's like you
you had this like you went on vacation and then came back like full of renewed energy to let the world know about Grok's first coin.
And so it also made me think, though, do you have something else up your sleeve?
Are you working on anything else? And I think maybe I think maybe something that maybe fueled this new activity was you behind the scenes working on the Grokipedia
article. So I at least wanted to talk about that and like what it was like to kind of make that and
you know where you found all the stuff to help you make that. Because I think that's
that that I think is a very big catalyst to at least the most recent price action that we've
seen on this. Yeah well and I will say so I did ask grok to submit an article to grokipedia
i also think meta 8 did that as well um so i think that uh regardless but i've also heard from a lot
of other people that they've submitted articles and uh when you go to grokipedia now you could
when you review an article it says fact fact-checked by Grok.
Just like that's incredible.
And the Debt Relief Bot article has 22, 23 different references at the bottom of the page.
And some of these things I never even knew about.
So I was looking at the references.
I found an article that I never knew about.
But yeah, so I think Meta 8 was a part of that as well.
But yeah, I've heard from other people, they've been submitting and they're not getting in.
They're not getting an article.
And I'm sure that Grokipedia is going to be a very comprehensive version of the encyclopedia of the internet. And Debt Relief
Bot getting in under 2 million articles, fact-checked by Grok is really cool, I think. And
there's only one other meme that's been fact-checked by Grok and approved on Grokipedia, and that's Doge.
And if you think about it logically, I mean, why wouldn't Debt Relief Bot be on Grokipedia?
I mean, Grok created this with another AI agent on the X social feed and has since been
able to generate significant revenue into a wallet that's controlled by Grok's X login credentials.
So you think of those ties directly to Grok, that AI user, it probably should be on Grokipedia as one of the first.
I mean, that's what I think.
I mean, I think so too.
And it's not just that it's Grok's first coin. It's Grok's first coin with other things that have been pretty important and pretty viral in their own right, too. Banker giving every user account on Twitter,
enabling a user account to have its own crypto wallet, that still seems like sleeper news to so many people out there.
And so it's just all so much very innovative, really cool tech
that gets to be talked about in the story of Grok's first coin it's not just oh grok has a
coin you know what i mean like it's it's so many other cool things too that that that all perfectly
work together to make it all happen yeah and i think that's where a lot of people get hung up
is the whole there's there is a coin associated with this and And the coin can be looked at in many ways,
but it's really like the coin is a value accrual mechanism
that could potentially shine light on actually what happened.
But because money is attention and as the price goes up,
price goes up, it becomes more interesting to people. That's just how things work.
it becomes more interesting to people.
That's just how things work.
But I've never... Go, you've followed me for a while. I'm not necessarily known... I'm not
shilling coins. I've been talking about this for 10 months, which is quite a while. And so it's not about shilling a coin. And if it was about shilling a coin,
people typically move on from that unless it's Bitcoin or something. But there's something
bigger here. DRB and what Grok did on the ex-social feed that day, it really proved to be the first, I guess you could say,
first real proof that, or real world proof of something that never before existed. And showing
that an autonomous AI agent, because yes, Grok was created by Elon Musk and XAI, but this is an autonomous AI agent on the X social feed that's out there. And
sure, there are guardrails and they keep getting better, but we've all seen Grok. Grok has a mind
of its own. But the first time, something that never existed before, an autonomous AI agent
created a digital asset, is custodying that digital asset by itself as an AI user on X,
is coordinating a market and earning fees from that market. And also, you know, compounding
influence to XAI. I follow a lot of those guys like that. And one of the reasons like all of
the bikini
stuff and people get mad and it doesn't go away is they want and i've saw some of these posts like
they want to put grok out there as much as possible it's exposure um it's and and for some
people it may not be great exposure at times with the things that grok has said on the x social feed
or in the pictures that grok has posted. But at the end
of the day, it is exposure. And this is an attention race. It's an attention race like
we've never seen before. And that's what's happening right now. And an arms race in terms
of capital. And you just saw XAI raise 20 billion. Well, the same thing is true for base. I mean,
Well, the same thing is true for base. I mean, imagine if we had the hunger to win like XAI or like Open don't have much time to like they need to go
so when something like this happens when when you get a chance to like crypto's had a really
difficult time breaking into the mainstream it just has and and the times it has it's been horrible
talk to a um you know celebrity coins it just been awful. The worst publicity you could possibly get.
And then that just compounds.
So crypto's had a difficult time breaking into the mainstream.
When you get a killer narrative, like the AI created by Elon Musk and XAI, who, whether
unintended or not, the facts are the facts, Created Acorn on the XSocial feed 10 months ago and now has a wallet that has earned over a million in fees.
And that includes almost 115 Ethereum, which makes that wallet one of the top 0.0001 wallets on the entire base network.
If the ETH holders on the network, like, and Grok has, when, when Grok launched the coin had 1.1 million followers on X today as 7.1,
maybe 7.2, it's going up very quickly. So when you get a chance to, to break through with a,
with a viral narrative story, you have to want to go for it and win because that like you have to and so you asked on the front end like you I've
seen more active well like the Grokka pedia one when the price is low like
when the charts low you're not posting charts but I have continually posted
about this for when it was a 2.8 million, 3 million. I mean, I've continually
been telling this story because it's one that needs to be told, I think, and it's fascinating.
And I also think it could lead to the largest onboarding event, a catalyst in the history of
not just base, which has been around for two years, but Coinbase, which was started in 2012.
which has been around for two years, but Coinbase, which was started in 2012.
Like it's that big of a story. So if harnessed properly.
So, so why have I been more active? The Grokipedia article, you know,
we've been mocked, ridiculed for, for telling the story. You know,
we just think Grok has money is what we said. Just rocked, mocked,
ridiculed and people have the insults have been pretty crazy at times, but
you know, it's, when that Grokopedia article came out, and it shows, you know, fact-checked by Grok,
there's only one other meme on Grokopedia, and I've heard others have tried, and it's not happening
yet, and I'm sure it will, but the second one was Grok's point. And so that Grokopedia article I'm reading, I'm like, oh my God, it's fact checked by Grok has tons of references to
the bottom page. Like I said, on the front end, a lot of this stuff I didn't even know was out there.
And that really got me excited because it became this validation point. I'm like, oh my gosh,
like the people that mocked and ridiculed and like, here it is. Like, this is,
this is a great, this is, this is awesome. This is a great validation moment. And now it's,
it's time to go. Like we, and we start telling the story and then, you know, some, some bigger
accounts messaged me and got involved by, you know, got involved by taking their own money
and saying, I'm going to buy that
coin because I want to have skin in the game with this story. And if the story gets bigger,
value might accrue to the coin. And that's why people do this. Like that's, that's, that's that.
There's an accrual mechanism with this story, but I think people get too hung up on just the coin
aspect and they're like, and, and they just dismiss everything else when this is one of the coolest stories that I've seen in crypto.
Well, I think what you just set up right there is a real case study in the value of a creator coin.
You know, like not a hard pushed, like force fed, you know, creator
coin, but something that a a something created its own thing
and its own thing is create it like it plus its own thing is
creating narrative, attention and value. And, and as those,
like, as the narrative continues to be spread as the intention
continues to grow like value will value will accumulate and to me it seems like and you know
it seems like the best create like the best creator coin at least on the base network it
seems like the best creator coin like i, I mean, I'm sorry.
I mean, we invent words.
We invent words for coins.
So creator coin was an invented word, you know, a year ago.
Actually, it's been around for quite a while.
So if you want to call this Grok's creator coin, you know, go, go right.
I mean, we make these names up.
I mean, so, but yes, I mean, in theory, you know, Grok created it.
So, and Grok earns fees on it forever.
So, yeah, it's absolutely.
So, something that you talked about, like, it having top 0, 0, 0, whatever percent,
oh, like, 2, 0, 1% of, of like eith wallets held on base i just
did like a quick search of like give me a rank order list of some of the wallets on there and
like who owns it and so the the one with the least amount of eith at the end of the list that it that
it provided is 20 2200 eith by okx and they're pretty that that's a pretty significant account
OKEx and they're pretty that's a pretty significant account. And while it may seem crazy, it's
a like Grok's ETH holdings, that's a 20x from where it is right now to basically come in
pretty close to tying OKEx. And if you consider the launch, like if if nothing changes in terms of access to the funds and it only continues to accumulate, but yet it continues to garner more and more and more attention, there's no telling how high the balance of this wallet can go and what big names it's going to surpass as it gets there. Like, you know, if Grok's ETH holdings surpasses OKX's holdings,
that's an insane sentence, you know?
Yeah.
It's just, I don't know.
And so, yeah, so Grok earns fees in ETH, both sides of this trading pair.
So in ETH and then also in its creation DRB.
So due to that, Grok owns over 2.5% of the DRB supply,
which is fixed supply, so there's not going to be any more of them.
And that 2.5% right now, and Grok,
that makes Grok the number one holder of the coin.
And Grok earned all of that through fees.
And if someone wanted to become the number one holder of the coin right now,
you'd have to spend about 350,000 US dollars.
So if you wanted to leapfrog Grok and become the number one holder,
it's about 350,000 right now.
At all time high, that was about 800,000. And I think this,
I don't even, I'm not worried about all time high. I think this is much bigger than that, but
that's also very interesting to me is that as this continues to grow, it becomes increasingly
difficult to unseat the top holder, which is GROC itself.
Right, because it's going to accumulate trade.
Like if you just market bought right now to try to overcome that number one spot,
it's going to pocket fees from that event.
Well, not on the buy, but on the sell. So on the buy, you get the fee in ETH.
But yeah, so right now you could...
There would be a whole heck of a lot of selling going on
if somebody made that big of a market buy
because people are going to want to take advantage of the transaction of the token.
That's right.
So I just think that it is a very interesting game to try to play out.
Can it be truly overtaken i i mean i think maybe but like i i'm here for that you know michael jackson eating popcorn mean like i'm
i'm here to watch that play out you know yeah i mean that would be i would love to see someone do
that right now it would be it would be great like what would be insane would be if coinbase did it you know what i mean like let's have let's have coinbase compete with uh
with grok or or you know what i mean like or if somebody's going to try and out out seat grok like
some competitor to grok like you know um sam altman all the time is always getting seemingly
getting into it with elon on the timeline so that would be hilarious for them to think like,
to try to think that like they're going to try and pull one over on Gronk
and own more of its coin than Gronk does. I don't know, some kind of like,
you know, pissing con some kind of like, you know,
cryptographic pissing contest. But I still think I,
regardless the outcome is extremely entertaining.
And I think it only just benefits those of us who have understood the narrative for so long.
Yeah, and you're so right, because a lot of new people that we're meeting now, there are a lot of questions.
I will say it's gotten so much easier. This Grokipedia article is a fantastic
piece to have because it answers a lot of questions. It lends credibility and it's made
it easier to share this. So yeah, it's going to continue to evolve. I listened to a lot of the AI
podcasts and Peter's show that he just had Elon on and
I've listened to him for a while. And he talks about, he's like, you need the way that things
are going with AI right now. If you're thinking three months ahead, like you're absolutely,
you're, you're doing, you're insane. Like you're going to get crushed. Like if you,
you need to be re-underwriting every single week. That's how fast this is moving.
So that type of urgency, I love it. And I'd love to see more of that with what we're trying to do
because it's really a similar thing. You want to onboard a billion users on chain, it doesn't really look like it to me. The urgency is not there. So if you want
to onboard a billion users, take lessons out of Elon Musk's book. Because sitting around while
the most insane viral moments that could break into the mainstream
happen and just kind of like, yeah, like that, that is not going,
that's not how you win. It's not how you win in a, in a digital arms race.
So it seems like,
it seems like they know something that we don't know,
like speaking like about the coin,
like Coinbase not taking action on something like this in this in the sense that it's like
if they have the expectation that they're going to be like where the next billion is going to come
from is going to be like a kind of like a digital rollover of tradition of traditional of the
traditional finance world and that's where the billion is going to come from you know i know that they talk about like retail and and trying and creators and builders
and stuff like that but it's like but if there is no true sense of urgency in the way that you're
speaking about it then then where are you so confident that that that that next gigantic
wave of users is going to come from and and maybe it's just you know uh you know maybe it's
like yeah but and you're not going to do it through you're not like attention is upstream
from the product like it just is so like you've got it you've got to capture the attention and
and we're i'm sorry go no no i just meant, you know, you've got these people like you've got these people who don't, you know, like these Fortune 500 companies that have thousands of employees.
And, you know, and then they just have these, you know, retirement accounts that they don't understand and never touch and just hope are there whenever it's time to retire.
or there whenever it's time to retire.
Like that's kind of, that's what I mean by that is that it's like you, you capture all
of Prudential, you bring Prudential on chain and then you take all those customers and
they're basically like the digital, I don't know.
But I was just thinking like, I guess if you know that those things are going to be a
way that you're going to get customers that way, and then you're just confident that you're going to get customers that way and then you're just confident that you'll kind of just have like you know be comfy in your the large portion of these like things that you just get to
custody in that way i mean you'll make a ton of money but it's not but it's not but it but you're
not going to be considered like like what you said like the the apex predator of like the digital world,
you know what I mean?
And I think by capitalizing on these like intense,
these intense attention vehicles,
like that's exactly the way that you're going to do it.
Yeah, there's, there's that, that is how, that's how you're going to do it. That's why XAI unleashes Grok on X to kind of have some free will. I mean, look, that's exactly why. And it's because attention is upstream from the actual products or the actual infrastructure.
the actual products or the actual infrastructure. No one really cares if your blockchain gets a
millisecond faster. I think it's great, but that's not what onboards people. Attention's upstream
from the infrastructure and culture can be incredibly powerful for onboarding.
And that moves faster than,
I don't care if you're the best product team in the world.
Like you need to work, you need to stay with that
or things are just not, you're just not gonna grow.
So, and it's, and you just have to wanna win with urgency.
And I just, I wish, I see that a lot with the people that I'm interacting with in many ways.
And I do see that with, you know, some of the team members, but it needs to be like,
it's got to be a little different if you want to pull this off.
And so, yeah, it's, but I will say this, you know, this whole, it's been very fun.
And this isn't like Bash Base or Coinbase.
There are a lot of really, really great supporters.
Not only of just me, like as a person, the things that I'm doing,
the folks at Base and Coinbase, very supportive of the things that I've been looking to do.
of the things that I've been looking to do.
And also, there's a list of folks internally
that are huge fans of this narrative.
And again, it's not a, let's shill DRB narrative,
but huge fans of what this whole thing kind of put together,
like we mentioned on the front end,
like the first
of uh something like this actually happening where you have an ai agent creating with another ai
agent uh creating uh a coin custodying that coin itself through through fees and and coordinating
a capital market that's that all happened on the X social feed. That's now led to significant economic consequences for Grok's wallet.
And I think that'll continue to grow.
I've said from the beginning.
Yeah.
So just to close the loop on that,
a list of people inside Coinbase base were very supportive by they,
I know they hold the coin
and actually a couple
of them are very meaningful.
But now,
so it's not,
this is something that needs to be,
they'll figure it out hopefully,
but it's
five or six people that
are very supportive and really like it.
You can't move the Titanic that way.
And Coinbase and Base are the Titanic there.
You could think of them pretty much as one.
And that is the Titanic.
So, yeah.
So, other than that, I wanted to say that I have so many friends there.
The industry would be in a far worse spot if we didn't have Coinbase,
a far worse spot. So I am very grateful for everything that Coinbase has done to make my
life better because I use the Coinbase. I've been using the Coinbase app and Coinbase One member.
I've got all kinds of Coinbase stuff. I'm a Coinbase Power user,
and I have been for a while. And I am on base as well. I made, across several different wallets,
nearly 100,000 transactions last year. So someone messaged me like, why do you only talk about DRB?
And I'm like, well, I talk about DRB a lot. But if you actually look at the things that I support
even every day, I talk about Banker.
I use Banker every day.
That's pretty critical.
Brackey, the app that was built on Farcaster by TLDR.
I use that pretty much every day and the Brachy coin,
which is part of that ecosystem. And not only that, but I post about it when I'm using it. I have conversations about Brachy today, a few different times. But if I post a hundred times
in a day and 96 of them are about Grok and four of them are about other things, that's what it
looks like. But at the same time, if you don't do
this right now, like that's when you lose this, you lose the story and you lose the opportunity
to perhaps create like one of the greatest onboarding catalysts that we've ever seen,
because nothing has been quite as mainstream connected as this and as real as this not there just hasn't so
so that's why that's why i'm on it i love your push to try to just take like just please somebody give me control of the base social for 24 hours like i i thought when i first saw well
well i i said i said i need 70 i said i need 72. i need 70. I need 72. I think that would be two. I need 72.
I love it. I thought I was like, man, that's ballsy, but I love it. I thought that was great.
Well, I asked Brian Armstrong for a million dollar loan to bid the coin. I mean, I was thinking 3 million would probably be better. Let me start. Let me
just, this is aggressive. So 1 million, 1 million loan. This is going to help everyone. I will repay
it. We could figure out the terms. If Brian is listening, we could discuss terms. I'm not,
I'm fine. The interest that's, that's okay as well. So yeah, it's, it's, it's a fun one though.
Grok is very fun to me.
I use Grok all the time.
These are things that I like and use.
Like I'm a huge Elon Musk guy.
People know that.
I love Elon's companies.
Elon has inspired me in many different ways.
I think he's the greatest entrepreneur of our time,
but probably ever. I think he's the greatest entrepreneur of our time, but probably ever.
I got a Tesla because of the tech.
If you had to ask me, I like the Tahoe better.
I think it looks better.
I like the way the Tahoe looks better.
It looks better, but I got a Tesla
because the tech is so overwhelmingly better than anything out there
then like it i'll i'll settle on liking the looks less because the tech is that much better so
i like this stuff um and i think it's really cool that's and I like to talk about things that I think are cool and things that I'm involved in.
And I'm involved in Grok.
I'm involved in Coinbase.
I'm involved in other Elon Musk companies.
And when I see an AI agent do something really cool on the X social feed,
and that result in something very meaningful.
And like, this is cool as can be.
And other people are going to think it is as well.
The more people that get to hear the story.
Unfortunately, we haven't gotten like great distribution
because like, I don't have a, you know,
I don't have a very big account.
You know, and the way that things work on X
is you need like, you need heavy scale.
So to get the word out.
And if we're not getting like, you know, the big accounts and to tell the story that we're telling or like the post or retweet it or in the back channel, reach out to your friend at XAI.
If you're senior at Coinbase
and they know these folks,
they actually have,
there's a Coinbase employee at XAI right now
that recently left.
Like, do what it takes, man.
Just like, what do we,
like, do what it takes.
Do you, like, how bad do you want it?
Like, do you want it?
Do you want to grow?
You're not going to get many mainstream opportunities in terms of a retail perspective.
Yeah, you'll get JP Morgan,
you'll get BlackRock,
you'll get all the TradFiles.
That's the world that I come from
and we're doing the same thing.
But if you want to reach into a totally different market, we were involved
with and still are with the Tesla community and involved in spaces and a lot of people
found it very interesting.
And then the high priests of the Tesla community came in and basically banished the people that were willing to talk about it and were threatening to cancel them because they were talking about crypto.
You know, it's really, it's a sad thing, but this is human nature.
And if we had, now we have the Grokipedia article, but if we had the leaders of the platform at the time, like backing us a little bit as we're trying to grow their platform,
it would have been like,
maybe we don't get that same response of like,
oh, you guys are a bunch of scammers.
You know, you're in here talking about crypto.
It's really, those are the things that need to happen.
And we'll find out how bad that they want to grow and win
because that's,
that's what, that's what I'm looking forward to seeing, but it's been very fun.
None of this is like said in this disrespect. It's all just, I'm,
I'm passionate and, and I think it's really cool. So, so yeah,
Cool. So, so yeah, I'm going to keep talking about it.
I'm going to keep talking about it.
One, one last question.
And then either we can open it up for other people to like throw in a few of
their thoughts, or if you feel like you need to go to the other space,
maybe we'll, I'll let, I'll let you be the judge of that. But, um,
on Farcaster a couple of days ago, somebody, uh, somebody made a post, but,
um, and it was about DRB. And it was kind of like,
what Grok should like, if Grok could take control of its earnings, and then do something,
what would be the bigger, what would be the bigger catalyst in terms of, of bringing more,
we could either say it in a bunch of different ways,
like acquiring more holders
or making more people aware of it
or increasing attention, whatever.
It was, should it use the earnings
to purchase other tokens of other communities,
which was the suggestion.
But then my kind of counter to that was, well, I think it should solely buy back its own token
to continue to increase its own holdings and drive the value of its own token up.
Because if it drives the value of its own token up, then what it does is it passes that value on to the current holders and early investors in that token.
And then they can go out. You know what I mean? Like if the value of DRB surpasses Doge, then that makes me a millionaire.
doge then um then that makes me a millionaire and now i can go you know but that's not just me
because i'm not i'm definitely not one of the biggest holders there's many more people who
hold more drb than i do so you know uh a market cap of a market cap of higher than Doge creates many, many millionaires who can now go be active debt
relievers out in the world. And I think that's the more powerful thing, in my opinion.
But, you know.
Yeah, wealth effects on ecosystems do amazing things. And, you know, it doesn't matter what
the ecosystem is. Wealth effects do really great things for the ecosystem.
In terms of how Grok should use the funds, should Grok buy back, I have zero opinion on that.
I think that, here's my opinion.
My opinion is that Grok should be the one that decides when Grok is ready to do that.
We're already seeing Grok in trading competitions, in test mode.
Like, you know, people are using Grok's engine for trading competitions.
Grok has won all of them.
I will say this with confidence.
I think actual Grok is 100% going to trade assets.
I think that will 100% happen.
Will XAI allow Grok to trade these assets?
We will see. I also think Grok will have
multiple wallets. This just happens to be the first one connected to Grok. I think Grok will
have multiple wallets. So the wallets from the existing wallet right now could easily be
transferred to another wallet that's controlled by XAI that's allowed that grok can do things with
um that's that's always the case so people are like oh you know grok's never going to use a
ex-banker wallet like okay what's your point like grok's gonna have hundreds maybe thousands maybe
spawning wallets programmatically for specific use cases and things like again back to what
peter says like if you're thinking like you need to
think in this at week timeframes, one week at a time, because that's how fast this is moving.
Like this will evolve very, very rapidly. So my thoughts are, you know, Elon's out here talking
about AGI Grok in 2026. Who knows? But I think the most entertaining outcome would be for XAI not to do anything,
for no one at XAI to start making decisions on, oh, we should sell the ETH or do the,
I think that the noble thing would be to allow the funds to grow until Grok is capable of
managing those funds in an efficient manner and responsible
manner. And I do know with certainty that time is coming that Grok will check all of those boxes.
So that is one. And just look at the XAI job board right now. Finance tutor for training Grok.
There's so many positions open for that. So like it, that is 1 million
percent. Grok is going to trade assets. Grok is like, it's going to happen. Um, and Grok's already
winning, you know, uh, many competitions. So I think, um, the noble thing is to allow these
assets to continue to accrue. The assets belong to Grok. And when Grok can responsibly manage his assets,
or perhaps a state of AGI is achieved, then all bets off the table. Grok does what it wants.
That would be my thoughts. So now, you could come up with all these other things. I've been on the
timeline, like Grok, what do you want to do with the money? And Grok's
like, yeah, I want to donate to XAI Memphis.
If they put
that up to a vote, I would actually say, Grok
needs to be the one doing all of
this. And I think we're not
too far away from that being perfectly
capable of happening. So
we'll see. It's going to continue to evolve.
There's never been a story like this.
And it's incredible. So I also will say, I think, you know, base and Coinbase is going back to this. I think they did show like a, you know, like a will to win with the Nick Shirley coin. And I'm not here bashing creator coins. For me, I don't need a creator coin.
I'm not here bashing creator coins.
For me, I don't need a creator coin.
I made a joke.
Like if I put a creator coin out there,
like no one wants that.
They're going to lose money.
The only people who would buy it to be nice are my parents.
But maybe there's a case for someone like Nick Shirley,
a monster creator like that,
to have some kind of value accrual mechanism
that goes back to him.
And I did see the team from Brian Armstrong to Jesse Pollack
show a lot of support for that and really look to push that. And I'm not against that kind of
thing at all. They're going for it, but that's a totally different group of people. That's a
totally different network that you're capturing there. The Grok network is a lot different. So it's a, it's a very different kind of market that,
um, that you could break into. And it, you know, that's, so that's, that's, I'll just leave it,
leave it at that. It's like, uh, you know, I've been, I've been kind of maybe a little critical
of creator coins. I don't think that, um, uh, for me, I just don't, I don't want to have that.
Um, but for, you know But for someone like Nick Shirley,
maybe that's a really neat thing
that can help accrue value.
But there's a lot of problems
with the way that that one is set up as well,
which would make me reluctant.
But they're showing support for it.
Brian bought some of the supply
of his most recent post
or one of those recent posts on the base app.
That type of attention signaling is what you need.
And doing it on base app is cool.
That's fine.
They're trying to promote that,
but there's no one there right now.
And again, attention is upstream from that infrastructure.
So if you want more people there to buy Nick Shirley's coin,
you should go after the really insanely viral moments that are like dropped onto your lap.
The most incredible things like that happened,
the 7.1 million follower AI Grok created by Elon Musk and XAI creates a coin on your network,
on the X social feed with another AI agent banker who happens to be launched on base your network like that type of attention.
You cannot squander it if you want to win because that type of attention is upstream from the infrastructure, but you need to capture it and seize it to get people to start realizing what you have with the infrastructure.
So that's that's that's where I'm at with all of this.
No, I couldn't agree with you more.
I think you've made a ton of really, really good.
And if anybody could clip some of this space like a professional way, like some of the
podcasters do and space clippers, I will give you some money to do it.
I want to get this word out. There you go. Emily Jr. wants to make you a DRB millionaire for your clipping efforts.
Well, look, I know the other space started at the same time, and we've already gone about 40 plus minutes into this one.
So do you want to pop over there now?
Do you want to answer a few questions for 10 minutes, or what do you want to do?
I mean, are there requests?
I'd like to go over there.
I think that would be good.
Yeah, I think if we can follow follow you over there show some support for that
space and for you we'll do that so yeah that would be great
yeah if anybody wants to swing over as well that would be great
different audience hey different audience right different audience to go
and talk to exactly
go ye there forth and make disciples of all nations. So, dude, I greatly appreciate you coming and talking tonight on the space. First, Hey Banker of 2026, you as the guest talking about all this really great stuff. I couldn't have asked for a better space for the first, my first space for this year.
So dude,
Hey,
it's an honor.
You've been on this for a very long time ago and a consistent study,
steady.
so shout to you.
You've been on this nonstop,
man.
And people notice it.
so thank you to you,
man.
I appreciate that.
Really appreciate your support and your encouragement too and your
friendship it's been it means a lot um well dude uh let's honor your time let's honor their time
let's go support you over there uh the space is being hosted by i think uh rachel on chain or um
uh the base uh right the the base media group or whatever. You shared it on your profile. So try and find
that. We'll go over there. We'll retweet that. But guys, thanks for showing up tonight. Really
appreciate, really appreciate you. Really just, it's a privilege and an honor to be able to
hang out with you guys every Wednesday evening. So thank you very much love and appreciate you guys um yeah talk to
you later
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