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Welcome to Pumpki. It's a somber, uh, well, it's going to start, I don't know, you're more fired up.
Aubrey came in a little bit, uh, jacked up. Uh, it's Hitsend Volume 24.
It's been, uh, it's been a little bit of a week. Um, and we have, uh, a new crew here.
It's Aubrey, myself, Thomas, special guest Will Foxley from Boxbase Media,
our chief of staff, D'Agostino.
And Drew is still, Drew is just in the ether.
He's milling around a little bit, but he'll be back with us.
He'll be back with us soon, but we have a great crew today
And we got some stuff to talk about I will say drew was here last night. He shook my hand knew my name
He held down money Mondays. Yeah. Yeah, he did a good job
He did I threw him a lot of like math questions just to make sure that's great coming back
You know he did most of them, right
It started with, I guess, the recent events that we're obviously going to cover is the death of Charlie Kirk, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, which was pretty horrible.
I think that's a seminal.
That's like a generational, like, American moment at this point. That was preceded
only a couple of days by the stabbing
was it? On the bus system?
which stoked a lot of racial
Charlie Kirk. 9-11 was kind of drowned
out this year, it felt like. Yeah, definitely.
It felt like so many definitely. I felt like
So many days are in a row like that really made everyone was feeling awful
I know I was on 9-11 and it's just I think humans have so much they you know only so much capacity
To handle all this stuff that's been sent to us and seeing people lose their lives
I don't think we should be seeing people lose their lives on Twitter unless you're consenting to that
because half the videos, I mean, the first video I saw of Charlie,
I didn't even know what I was watching before I saw him get shot.
Yeah, we were in a meeting here when it happened.
I think Tags, you were the one that saw it and it kind of derailed the meeting.
For somebody to work at the book, it was an interview.
You were scrolling Twitter during an interview
news blotter things on my phone
like a media interview or interviewing a person
and yeah D'Agostino was working on something else
on his computer and saw it and just interrupted
I can't go to bed at night
without seeing somebody die
it's become part of my night time routine
it's been that way my nighttime routine yeah it's
been that way for a really long time that's just that's been Twitter for a
while you got to see either some like high school cafeteria fight or somebody
die and I don't I don't think I think Twitter I think Nikita needs to figure
out some way to figure out some
way to figure out how to censor that out or put something up I mean Instagram does that they have
it just like I want to watch you have to press to you have to press to watch yeah video is really
brutal it took me a while to realize so I guess I guess he was gonna the the bullet hit him in the
in the chest and he was wearing the body armor and it ricocheted up.
It hit him in the throat,
I think it ricocheted off of body armor is what they're saying.
it would have been a chest shot.
so he's been wearing body armor.
if you looked at a lot of what,
Charlie was talking about,
it was getting a little bit,
I don't know uh not somber but like he was aware that like you know he was getting into dangerous territory um lots of conspiracy theories around uh some of his recent comments
with israel particularly around october 7th and how long it took um military to respond to that attack,
I think was stoking a lot of anxiety for him.
And he was talking about that pretty openly.
So he was wearing body armor.
I believe, I don't know shit.
Nobody knows anything with this stuff.
That's the thing, especially after they get arrested,
Everything goes closed door.
They have time to talk to whoever powers it be, get their story straight, That's the thing, especially after they get arrested, no one knows anything. Yeah. Everything goes closed door.
They have time to talk to whoever powers it be, get their story straight, and we'll never
know absolutely everything.
He was sort of just stuffed into an SUV.
Yeah, which based on the video, I don't think it would have made a huge difference.
That was a fair amount of blood, a jugular shot.
He probably lost liters of blood instantly and was out.
it still pops up in my head.
The thing that bothers me about these videos is that
the internet's forever and his
children and his family cannot escape that
so many people have seen that
And that's not fair to his family that you know i know he's a public figure but it's just not fair that these social platforms have no way of like kind of figuring out a way
i'm not saying it shouldn't exist i think there's a level of importance of seeing terrorism in this
country and the level of hate that has divided us specifically you know it seems like one group shooting at another group and so I think people
can opt in to see it but you just like for the family and I mean it's obviously a huge problem
with the social platforms but there's always an individual behind the post and it's the
individual's take on these events that has really been something to see.
I mean, anyone, I mean, even as little as using his words in previous debates and comments that he's made, but also, I mean, there's people making light of it.
I mean, people jumping up and down, people laughing and rewatching.
It really goes to an individual.
Where are we as a country?
I mean, people to be celebrating and act like this yeah there's the one guy that was celebrating uh like moments after
right he was up front that's that's awfully disturbing and shock can hit people in different
ways but then the long tail effect and also you know it's kind of fun how the turntables have
turned um i i assume we'll we'll be talking about um a lot of people losing their jobs over
you know being gleeful that that you know this happened um yeah it is it is it is pretty bizarre
it happens really quickly uh you know i don't really i don't really have an opinion on like
the responsibility of social media to like block this stuff out i think it's sort of like a forum and it gets out there.
It's sort of just is everybody has a fucking camera in their pocket and a
supercomputer. So like, that's just going to happen. Um,
this is going to be a really pretty defining moment for a long time.
I guess before we get into the celebration and sort of the reaction to the
one more note on the actual assassination of the man just sort of the reaction to the events. One more note on the actual assassination
of the man just being on the roof.
I'm a little shocked that anyone was still doing
open speech forums debate style
after the Trump assassination,
at least with buildings in the background like that.
It just feels like there should have been
maybe some thoughtfulness on
the the american security side the fbi to like kind of direct people in a way of not doing them
there uh perhaps in a cafeteria where you people like are you know we're in a low trust society
now so it's like you have to go in and maybe like you have to just get scanned and security checked
before you sit in this thing i i just being being an open target, like the guy, the video that they leaked,
I mean, you could see him on the roof.
I don't think a lot of people did see him, but then he just bailed and ran out.
I mean, he could have been halfway to anywhere at that point.
Like he just jumped off the roof, ran across the field,
and left in a matter of like under a minute.
such a public forum though, and if it's true that he was wearing body armor, it shows that that
thought has definitely come across, did come across him and his team. And it goes to show
even more so like how committed he was to truly just engaging with this younger demographic and
no one else is really putting themselves in those positions and he was willing to do so in order to express political freedom and debate and have conversations with
people that may agree with him or more often than not didn't and it really goes to show the power
of what he was doing well the tent too that's a counter sniper tent that like setup that they had
and plus wearing body armor they were definitely thinking about these things um it's a little bit fucking weird with the kid like just knew where to go like how
to set up yeah like i i really hope that there's some you know depth to digging into these like
discord channels that he was on you know it's really fucking early nobody is gonna probably
learn anything we still don't know about the you know about the toothless, pimpled kid that took a shot at Donald Trump.
But it seems like there's a similar trajectory.
It seems like there's a lot more involved here.
Yeah, it seems like the roommate, I mean, these are just very, this is all breaking news,
so it could change, but it seems like there was roommates and other people in that Discord chat
that are going to be also paying the price for this entire thing
because it wasn't entirely alone.
To be seeing those texts, I read little quotes here and there
of what was in the Discord chat.
It wasn't simply like, fuck him, fuck this, hate him.
It was logistical stuff about the operation
that was obviously not sarcastic.
Hassan Piker has been talking about
wanting to see his base do this stuff more and more.
Get out there, get violent,
eviscerating people in Berkeley
that are not renting their houses.
That's been on mainstream media.
I mean, when all the protests were going on in 2021.
The New York Times did a major hit
about how the man that looks
the the voice that looks like uh he's from the manosphere with a progressive mind or something
like that like just like lauding this guy that's openly saying that uh you know the the the left
needs to get violently aggressive against you know anybody that they disagree with like to the
streets all all of that rhetoric.
No, he's talking about actually, like, you know.
No, but even like take to the streets,
who said protest for peaceful,
that's mainstream rhetoric on all of these channels.
I hope it gets absolutely stamped out.
People are funding, you know,
a lot of angry protest angry protesters the pallets bricks
you know the the tents up at columbia there were probably 30 tents on the lawn 28 of them were all
the same all the same it's not it's it's not a political like uh circus to start throwing around
you know uh rico cases here i think I think it's legally sound for them to
explore that. And if there's actually a funding tied to some of these groups,
I would fucking love to see them like dig into that stuff because it's, it's hitting,
uh, mentally ill kids after COVID and with these, you know, horrible devices that they're stuck to,
like they're, they're just sitting targets so you kind
of it's kind of like you can uh uh sympathize to a certain level with the the kid that is caught up
with this stuff um because there is a fucking uh force whether it's a direct one or an indirect
one that brings somebody to that point where they do it. He should still be shot and killed. The kid is, the columnist
strike from the record, that kid is an adult
I understand what you're saying, though.
When you're growing up in an echo,
That's a man if I've ever seen one.
Anyway, Will, what do you think?
We kind of threw you into one of the more sober.
This is the most sober hit send we've ever had.
I've done a hit send with you guys.
We talked about Bitcoin, though.
That was the most boring hit. I don't know.
No, you're not an adult if you're in a Discord channel.
So that's everybody on Twitter.
So your fantasy football league I was just added to.
I drafted for Thomas last week.
We're a great team. I know nothing.
It's amazing how bad people are at fantasy.
Wait, why are you drafting and playing for him uh because he doesn't respond
i'm glad the money's being spent well here i'm in three i'm in three other leagues this one was
dropped uh i'm in four other leagues it's the it's the uh bitcoin um culture hub yeah bitcoin
culture hub league that got started sort of like last minute.
So I'm happy we're in it, but I did not have time to do a draft last week when we were actually kicking it off.
You guys are way more caught up with the Charlie Kirk stuff than I am.
I've seen all the tweets about it so far, but I've been kind of pushing it out of mine.
Because I don't know how much there is more to know at this point.
It's just like something awful happened.
And I'm just like, okay, put that over here.
How much you guys were like, I'm going to dig into it.
I was like, I haven't even dug into it.
This has all been just like stuff that's come across my notifications.
What do you think like the barbell is for this then?
Like my response is like, this is awful.
I want to stay away from it.
And then my response is I'm actually going out and canceling people, uh, for celebrating,
uh, terrorism in the country. That's, I feel that calling employers. Yeah. I've called a few schools
to this morning that like people who were saying that the shooter is a hero for killing him. I don't
believe that terrorism has any place in America. And I think
just from my background, my dad's an American history teacher. I think that, you know, free
speech and all of these things are super important. But I just grew up in a house that was really
talked about why it was so important for people to have discourse, even if it was people you didn't
agree with. And we talked about this a lot in my family.
And my dad taught this for 30 years in public schools across this country.
So when I see someone murdered in front of their family for just opening a space for
people to talk, something in me just snapped.
And I wasn't a fan of Charlie Kirk.
But I will say that if this is what America has become
where we can't have disagreements um if you're murdered for your political views that's
terrorism and if you support terrorism in this country I don't think you should be around
children and I want you fired from your job and if you're stupid enough to put it online
even worse you shouldn't be teaching kids.
So that's what I've been doing.
Honestly, yeah, post it online.
And so you know, and so you're able to take action on that.
I mean, these people have no right to be actually forming the minds of any children, teenager,
The inability to express political freedom in this country,
that's what we're founded on.
And if you're not able to do that, who the fuck are we?
I agree with everything that both of you said.
I consume a lot of this stuff on both sides.
I follow the Hassan Piker stuff, the Destiny stuff,
out of mostly curiosity where this is trending
like legacy media is fucking dead and um it seems like there's a real dearth of effective influencers
on the left um to continue the torch when you know msnbc cnn npr pbs when that finally does
they already fired some hosts because of this the comments made on air
Yeah, he was a commentator. He was a fucking dope
You know who's actually Charlie was so effective with Gen Z moved, you know, Gen Z males 44 points to the right
That is a staggering fucking number
We were talking before the show also also somewhat effective with Gen Z women.
Move them a much smaller degree, but any budge there is pretty insane.
So I've always been interested at who is actually being effective in this regard.
I didn't agree with everything that Charlie was pontificating about.
I thought at times he was a bit goofy.
Yeah, I kind of thought that too.
South Park did a good job with that.
But apparently he liked the South Park thing.
And I think that he was a genuinely good person.
Well, he liked the South Park thing because of what he was doing.
He enjoyed hearing other perspectives and opinions and took them in
and understood that it's about what he's saying.
It's not about him as a person.
Yeah, he had humility, though.
He was able to see the humor in people making fun of him.
That's a smart, reasonable person that you kind of want to hang out with in general.
Rather than taking something like that with thin skin and getting really angry because somebody's making fun of your life's work,
with humility and actually enjoyed it
I think they took that episode
down which is kind of just like a really
they did they should just keep it up pretty cowardly
move I think in my opinion
that's interesting they took it down
yeah they took it down out of respect
but I think it's mostly cowardice
if you're going to do a thing
what was I about to say the other thing that has but I think it's mostly cowardice. If you're going to do a thing, do it.
The other thing that has resonated with me,
and other people have said this ad nauseum,
he was the nice one, right?
In terms of the influencers. He's the debate me guy.
He was patient, generous with his time.
He wanted to get into it.
He wanted to meet face to face.
He did that his entire career. i don't think that people fully understand sort of like you know what the entire universe of like influencers like he's the nice one they killed um which is very sad but
there's a reason he had an impact with gen z is because he's the only one that physically went
them and talked to them as if they were individuals and actually of sound mind and not patronizing
He took what they said with validity and no one else is doing that in any sort of media
I think now we need to really focus on the universities though, because it's the crazy
thing about what I've seen on my feed um after
going through and looking at a lot of these statements it's just the evilness of some of
these educators and how they're talking about the loss of life um the loss of this this innocent
person charlie's not guilty of anything he got shot you, and they're like jumping up and down. It is insane. And so these
universities, you know, they have the minds of the youth before their frontal cortex is even formed
and they indoctrinate. And I even remember this as a college student and a high school student
is knowing that your teacher has a political slant and wanting to write to that slant so you don't get you know marked down in a class you're like well i you know i don't really believe with this
but i'm going to argue this point because uh that's such a good prompt now do you think that
like they're really like all right we're doing medieval history like as if you are a liberal
she's a lib my professor has purple hair and thick black
Praying chat GPT last year
Last year those are prompts I put into chat GPT. No wait. I'm not even getting
I mean I'm so good at this
The things I had to do to cheat were like insane
It used to be so much harder. Your kids have it really easy. Now you just have to come up with the right prompt
What's your prompt for PubKey?
Yeah, we just have to prompt.
I actually have a folder going because I'm tired of explaining what PubKey is to ChatGPT every time.
When I was in college, we just had to memorize the buzzwords.
So it was just like, the buzzwords changed too.
So it was like multicultural back then.
Now we don't use that one anymore.
One of my professors, we were talking
new sources with validity.
And she ended up saying CNN
and MSNBC. She's like, all right, if you're
throwing that out, I raise my hand,
Fox News. And she's like, I don't know
about that. And I just say, well, you can't put CNN and MSNBC and she's like i don't know about that i'm like and i just say
well you can't put cnn and ms on nbc on there i also don't agree fox is valid that they're the
great they're so crazy sometimes but that's a little bit of what i was talking about earlier
it's so fascinating how like uh at best conservative mainstream media is more uniparty
than anything else like the rupert murdoch family tree of shit, I wouldn't call like, you know, super conservative.
I would call that more like uniparty, you know, fine line between, you know, congressmen and women and senators that are Republican and Democrat that always align to get like their fucking shit through.
is aligned to get like their fucking shit through. You clearly have like, you know, staunchly left
leaning outlets like MSNBC and CNN and other ones. And they worked at that really fucking hard.
Death of Rush Limbaugh, death of like, you know, a couple of other like old guard conservative
voices. And then there was this wave, including Charlie Kirk, Crowder.
Candace Owens, Alex Jones.
Like, you know, the list goes on. They completely refactored, like, you know, any conservative media,
and it became just such a fucking like tsunami
But conservative media to that point. I mean you think of like Tucker Candace
The only other one on the left that actually has like a platform that's individualistic like a podcast or goes to the streets is Don
Lemon and I mean the shit he puts out is absolutely ridiculous. That's so great. Did you see the one in Baltimore?
When when no absolutely ridiculous. That's so great. Did you see the one in Baltimore? No. You follow Don Lemon? Don Lemon's not for the left.
He's not for Don Lemon. Don Lemon is for himself. I don't even think
concerns all the leftists. I do. I try to consume as
broader reach as possible because I find this stuff really fascinating. I do follow
the Don Lemon stuff and it is hysterical. He went to Baltimore and he was
interviewing people on the street um uh around like ICE agents and like deployment of National Guard in DC and Trump
had said something about Baltimore being a mess which it is and um maybe doing it there and he
interviewed a couple of people and there were like three in a row and it was like old black guys just
on the street and they were like yeah it's pretty
bad here yeah it's not what don was looking for what was like the back what was the backdrop too
of that like where do you go in baltimore to like argue that it's a great city what backdrop do you
have well it was during the day and it was on the street i don't know uh the neighborhoods of
baltimore in terms of like the actual backdrop or like boarded
windows it was more of like a thoroughfare but it was very bright yeah
those those I actually really enjoy but I think part of the panic here is who's actually so the
dnc is deploying tremendous amounts of money into comedians influencers music festivals like to try
and like counterbalance this um music festivals a lot yeah like a lot of music festivals um there
they are as far as i've seen it's been, you know, all across the country, just like popular music festivals to continue to try and find some new foothold.
I think the genesis of that, during the Harris campaign, it was really effective to get Megan Thee Stallion and the other musicians out there.
So they want to follow through.
I mean, that was the best part of the TikTok campaign.
They're like, we're going to go brat. Kamala's brat. Follow me. Yeah, it was brat summer. That was great. I mean that was that was the best part of the TikTok campaign.
They're like we're gonna go brat.
Yeah it was brat summer that was great.
I kind of want to go back.
Last September was fucking fun.
That's actually what's fucked up is we're looking at September 2024 and we're like we got to go back to that.
We were fucked in September 24. I know. And now we're like ah we gotta go back to that. I know. We were fucked in September 24.
And now we're like, ah, those are the glory days.
Dude, but the fact that there was a whole political campaign
that was under Brat, I still cannot believe that that was real.
Yeah, they want to do that again.
Well, now she just released her book, and now she's like,
should have been let in on the conversation.
I shouldn't have let Joe and Jill control it all.
She's trying to backtrack everything from that now.
What do you think Jill's up to?
It's kind of a tough time to like bury your old box when he has cancer.
Rehoboth or Bethany Beach?
Maybe just post it when he, publish it after he dies.
Yeah, you got like a year left.
Jill, Jill is the real mastermind.
Like, why is she doing that? Oh, you think it's a little
It's like, have you watched her
over the last five years?
What do you guys think about Gavin Newsom's
whole interaction with Charlie Kirk?
Because I think this actually plays really well for
Gavin Newsom going into the next election. I don't know with Charlie Kirk. Because I think this actually plays really well for Gavin Newsom going
to the next election. I don't know anything on it.
Because they actually did a podcast together
and Newsom put out one of the
better statements about the
So if you're looking, if you're forward looking.
I saw the interview. I haven't seen,
The tweet's after he was killed? He basically like said Tell us about the tweet. So the tweet was basically... I saw the interview. I haven't seen... I didn't see his tweet. Yeah.
The tweet was after he was killed?
He basically, like, said what you should say in this situation.
There's no place for violence.
We need to prosecute the full extent of the law.
And I think it's going to, like, play well for him if he continues.
Oddly, it's weird to look forward on these things now
and be like, what's the response to it?
He had a good relationship with Charlie Kirk.
He's been putting himself out there too recently.
He's been trumpifying his rhetoric.
Him and Pelosi, they're related by marriage.
They own like Squaw Valley, Alpine Meadows up in Lake Tahoe,
that Tahoe region of ski mountains.
Spent a month out of my down squat.
What was the craziest part about all of that this week, though, I will say,
is I went out to 6th Ave last night, and usually when I see anything 9-11 related,
like even like saving my documents yesterday, I dated them September 12th.
I don't want 09-11 on my computer.
First time that I've gone, I saw the lights coming from um ground zero
yesterday and it was a really grounding and like calming site which is really interesting because
every single year it's always it's a very different perspective i have and this year after all the
events this week it was very grounding i wish they left them on a little bit more.
I think they should, I really think they should.
It's chills overcoming my body.
It's one day, they just do it for one day.
But I think they should do it like three or four days.
Yeah they did, they used to do it.
It's absolutely beautiful, it really is.
We were coming down the west. We were uptown.
We were coming down the west side highway.
what happened with Charlie did really
That's usually the high holiday.
When's the last time of the assassination
of a political figure in America?
Like a notable public figure?
I don't know if the country stopped...
I'm not diminishing their deaths,
but I don't know if that...
I know what you're saying.
It was the 2015 GOP debate. Trump and Jeb Bush was probably the last one.
That was the last decision.
No, I don't know the last big one in the U.S., what that would have been.
I was talking to you earlier.
I thought this was Robert Kennedy of our era just getting shot in 68.
And that really was a big movement. So in 68, like you had the DNC go to Chicago.
We had tons of riots then MLK, Robert Kennedy, and it completely flipped the 70s.
And then the 70s got like super violent. And so that's like the concern now is like, where do we get from here?
Like the cancellations is one thing
but what if it's like um yeah he wasn't running for anything though right this is like a cultural
influencer you gotta go into like more of like an mlk or a malcolm x almost i think he probably
would have run if he was a little older he's only 31 32 no i agree with that he was on the ascent
but like you like so jfk sitting president rf RFK Jr. running was already, what was he at the time?
He was running, but he was also in a position at the time of the session.
I don't know what he was.
It was something, maybe not that, but.
Attorney General, because I think he was starting to dig into some
files that they did for sure and i think the difference with some of the assassinations is
that when they're doing it in their sort of uh workplace like i'm not saying he was an elected
political figure but he was doing kind of his thing like on campus talking to kids um rfk was running for office jfk was like in a motorcade
so these are all like doing they were on the job and shot on the job is like what i'm trying to say
do you have do you have chachink tay on there can you look up the last uh most significant
political assassination in the u.s which i think makes it kind of jarring when they're at their job kind of and they're shot on their job.
middle of talking. So I think that's
why the reaction's been so
And not to say there hasn't been attacks.
was attacked at his home. I think it's a little
different when you have the video of it in
their workplace doing what they do, but it doesn't diminish the attacks of someone in their private
home. Almost more vulnerable in that way. But yeah, I don't know. That one's a little bit more
to that one. We don't have all the details of that one. We don't have all the details.
That was a special sexy time people I don't
really get into it sometimes it seems like the Fauci case might get less
attention right now and then also like the Epstein stuff is gonna drop off is
there are just the arena thing was getting really big days before this arena
thing so a lot of confirmations are still pending so
they they really delayed before uh break confirmation for a lot of uh spots yeah um
i don't have confirmation on this i saw that a lot of that's being accelerated um i think that
there were a lot of threats levied by the trump administration to you know confirm some of
these posts um so if you listen to like a nick fuentes or somebody like that he's very frustrated
at how slow and the lack of action out of the administration part of that is administrative
and there's just so much shit going on yeah um and you know part of that is also it gets into really murky stuff around the Epstein files
and why that might not be getting released.
Yeah. I'm wondering just from a conspiracy angle, what kind of shifts from what do people
care about? It feels like the Ukraine-Russia conflict that's going to become less interesting
People have already bowed out of that one.
It was heating up with the Alaska summit and then it kind of got slowed down a little bit because that didn't go anywhere.
It was heating up from a news media standpoint.
Laymen conversation. Israel-Palestine has taken the cake with that one.
People are busy. They're running bars.
I don't know if I can talk about it.
People are shockingly not busy.
And then complaining about not having jobs.
Busy with TikTok and rising unemployment rate.
Also, the strike in Qatar, right?
So I have a very close friend in Dubai that woke up
and he saw one of my tweets about like, you know,
put down Twitter for tonight, come back tomorrow fresh.
Like I said something like,
I hope I take my own advice because I'm apoplectic.
Did you take your own advice?
For the most part, I did fire off a couple of retards
But yeah, for the most part I did put it down
because I was getting pretty pissed off that evening.
He woke up and he's just like, what the fuck's happening?
Like, what are you talking about on Twitter?
I told him about it and he's like, oh Jesus, okay.
He's like, we've been like that over the strike in Qatar,
I guess Israel, you know, executed, terminated, whatever.
Assassinated somebody in Qatar.
And that's all they were really talking about.
So now this is, you know, interesting to see if that just like, you know,
ends up taking the cake for the global conversation.
Like I said, there's too much bandwidth. We can't deal with Zelensky right now, okay? He's gonna have to wait
You gotta get too much going on because I think it shows us has to be introspective
I mean you know shit going on in this fucking country. That's just not taken care of at all
I know. This is the hard thing, too, because it's like if we had the capacity to care about every single issue in the world, I would love to.
We humanly cannot care about every single issue.
And it's not because we don't care.
It's not because we're thoughtless.
It's like your brain, your emotional bandwidth has a max of like what
you can consume you can only watch so many people die online a day and there's almost so much you
can actually physically do as a individual private citizen like we just have to be realistic and it's
not carelessness but i can't affect a lot of things that are happening on the other side of
the world but that also doesn't mean i'm complacent. It's just realistic. I can't do a ton at this moment tomorrow. It's not going to
move the needle, but I can, you know, deal with the things at home first. And I think like any
person. How many schools did you call today? You did it. I did call several schools. I did call
several schools. Yeah, I did. What were the reactions?
I called a school in Hawaii because I'm a part of the North Shore community there.
Did you stay calm or were you like heated?
No, I said, I was like, I'd like to make a complaint on a teacher at your school.
And I was like, yeah, I'm part of the North Shore community and I would like to file a
complaint about something that was said.
As I know that there's children at that school, obviously,
and that this person is taking care of first graders and celebrating publicly about calling the shooter a hero. I don't think that that's good. Think about the precedent generally.
If you're saying that murder is cool, but then the kids are fighting in your class,
where's your grounds to even tell
the kids to not fight when you're celebrating murders and it's just like what are we doing
here and they said they wrote down the complaint and uh yeah it's filed and i've had people dm me
a lot i actually got the person fired from polymarket today so she's fired i thought you
would have come with um like aubrey has missed her connection connecting flight
energy with some of these calls what do you mean like mad angry yeah oh this is unacceptable the
thing is supervisor supervisor i got i escalated a little bit but if you do it too much they're
like they're like she's a wacko she's crazy so you have to be like i have to make a complaint
i'm concerned i'm concerned about the children I am. And also you stupid enough to just run your mouth in public like that. Like,
clearly not a smart person, not a smart educator to be around the kids. Um,
maybe that's why she's teaching first grade level. I don't know. Um, but
we kind of sidestepped a whole race conflict with Irina. Yeah, that was, that was, that was
fomenting. I saw a a lot at least on my algorithm
there were a lot of people being like at least he's white like that's kind of a win um because
that was that was getting you know pretty heated on my timeline um leading up to the charlie kirk
that did that was getting kind of crazy. It's even hard.
Like, I can't even compartmentalize the days.
Like, that's how much has happened.
Actually, thinking back to this week,
it's all mush. It's all mush.
I was pretty pissed about that one.
She kind of looks like one of my daughters.
And that was just like fucking senseless.
That's the part that gets me.
Every time that's the part that gets me.
I'm also just traveling here in New York.
Cause I only moved here this year and it's just crazy.
I mean, I was out in front of the building earlier and there was someone doing the Fent dance and it's just like that happens sometimes.
Especially in the corner.
Welcome to PubKey and they're all right over here.
The amount of times I've wanted to leave and ended up staying like an extra two hours.
Cause every time I opened the door, there's like four dudes just smoking crack like all right that happens often and it's
that's why we need jerk jerk will go out and he's the crackhead was they look at me and I mean like
they I'm a target with them and get some relief no he just knows there's like a protocol you don't
make eye contact you don't cuss you say god bless and thank you like a lot you deliver the direct eyes like don't do that here please like and like you just repeat
thank you god bless as many times and then it sort of like sets in and they
saunter off yeah yeah he's very very effective he's good at it amazing
it does get bad bad we've been dealing with this since we opened.
When we first opened, it was really, really bad.
Coming up on three years, three years next month.
I will say, actually, there's been a lot of discourse
between a lot of the security of these private buildings on this block.
They are getting so fed up with all of this
because they've been being stationed later.
They're getting paid the same amount they've been been getting paid over the past couple years and it's actually really
dangerous out out especially around washington square park recently it's that northwest corner
it's been like that for 20 years more than 20 years as long as i can remember that northwest
corner by hayman's tree is just has it always been like this in a day late though on the streets like here on the street no no this is this is this
is only a coat this is like emboldened so certainly in the 80s and 90s it was
dodgy like post julia 70s 80s West Village was was dicey yeah I wasn't
here for that but my entire experience in New York City was never like this.
Boomer, part of the problem.
I will say on the... This is purely a COVID thing.
On the danger of the city thing,
talking about, you said yourself right now,
as a man, you think this corner is dangerous.
Some parts of these areas are dangerous.
Well, I'm just saying cuz I you know I mean as a woman and she was taking public transport by herself after she was working you know a shift
and like that's kind of the only thing that was available to her I'm sure she's
working at a pizza shop so she has to take those yes transport her shift at
the pizzeria yeah and it's like she that she thought it was safe it clearly wasn't um the
upsetting thing about that pre charlie kirk is that just nobody did anything um and i don't i'm
not trying to blame the people entirely like i think when things like that happen it's so chaotic
too that you don't even know i we don't have the full video i didn't watch the full video i watched
parts of it but it's like it's so chaotic you don't even know what's happening and then she was gone but then no one
steps up like nobody goes to help her it was like I no and that's what I'm saying like you're in
shock and everywhere it happens very quickly so you're like what is even going on she doesn't
even know what's going on because her adrenaline's going like it was crazy but it just feels like
there's just not any protection on these public transport systems like not just for you know you
know i think it is like we need security on these but what i think it is too there's no sense of like
community like a physical community no one is like willing to put themselves out there to protect
others that are around and I kind of be
To be contrarian kind of get it when someone has a knife. I
Kind of I kind of get it and I'm not saying that like whatever in low-grade stuff
There are videos of people like on the subway of people like getting pickpocketed and everyone around them is watching
Yeah, and no one does anything
Well, I mean everyone is the Daniel penny thing a hundred 100 so we kind of just keep going in a circle with it um and then you know sadly she dies by
herself you know she's a refugee to this country she thought america was safe it's tragic to see
oh speaking of zelinski i think i saw zelinski barred uh her father from traveling because he's eligible they're concerned he won't
return that's not that's awful that's insane very sad I don't know if it's
true I saw it on the internet we need a fact check live here I know we need a
buzzer? Have you found the last significant...
Yeah, do you remember Melissa
Yeah, that was the one I mentioned.
That was the guy dressed up
Yes, he had the hit list of like 50 people.
And what about before that?
I looked it up. There really, really was not much of like anyone of like federal status.
Yeah, look, that was awful. I don't mean to make light of that.
But that's terrible happened at their home and everything.
I was looking for something more federal. I guess it goes back to like RFK.
I think it does. It really does.
I think there might be a couple judges. I remember something
like five or six years ago, but that's state as well. It's not federal.
Yeah. So I was talking to a friend, a guy friend who lives in California yesterday,
kind of post Charlie Kirk. And I was like, yeah, I don't feel safe going out in New York. And he
kind of laughed at me. He's like, ha, Aubrey, are you kidding?
And I was like, why would I?
First of all, you don't live here.
I'm a woman and I live in New York City.
And he leans more liberal.
But there's like something on the left right now that's really bothering me of like discrediting.
They think like it's the city's not dangerous and then i should just go
out i'm like i what are you talking about first of all you don't live here you're not a woman
how can you laugh at me like to use the phrase believe all women how are you not believing how
my experience my my truth about your lived experience my lived experience in new york city
and so i honestly just hung up the phone my tolerance for everyone in the past few days has been zero it's like okay do you actually care about what it's
like to live in new york city or do you just want to be right about something like i don't feel safe
i put it i put a tweet out a few weeks ago that talked about how i was screamed in the face called
a motherfucker flipped off in a line getting coffee by a homeless person who looked like he
was going to hurt me walked right by me got in my face like i have felt close to an attack in new york city
in the west village yeah multiple times there was a guy throwing chairs near me like
at people's faces on the west side highway do you think this isn't a dangerous neighborhood
what does mandami make this better mom donnie sends in the social workers and I just, like, I don't know.
They're awfully effective.
You know what we need to do? Bring back the fucking institutions.
Go to Connecticut, build some
brick fucking warehouses.
It all leads back to Connecticut.
Why can't we just send them all to Connecticut?
They love it. It's great.
You get a boat, you get a nice property. Even out the concentration of crackheadery. Why can't we just send them all to Connecticut? They love it. They love it. It's great.
Connecticut, a boat, you get a nice property.
Even out the concentration of crackheadery, okay?
Greenwich has to take a few.
No, put them in Stanford or New Haven.
So I think Bloomberg, I think it was under Bloomberg.
Bloomberg had a policy. He was sending buses to the Poconos.
One way tickets to the Poconos.
And it was like a lot of like homeless people in like texas
yeah he's shipping up to martha's vineyard see and then they're all like wait no no wait we don't
want you here leave uh yeah see if that got competitive though across states like if
governors really started to get into that that would like great great hands back. GR. No, no, no. You know, we need to bring back me to bring back fun.
Wah. We are asking some of the wrong questions here.
Huh? You gotta think it's like we have these disruptive policies.
Like what tickers do you buy? It's like Greyhound. You can buy that one.
We're saying Palantir doesn't seem to be doing pretty well.
If they did not do great on track. Is it in public?
What happened to Elon's rail that he was supposed to build?
Wasn't he supposed to build this high speed rail?
Boring is just like a proof of concept for Mars.
They have a slide in Vegas and they're making one in Nashville right now.
No, I don't think he's serious about doing anything with it.
I think that it's honestly just figuring out how to bore tunnels on Mars for humans.
Speaking of, did you guys see the rocket landing?
It was like, it looked like straight out of a movie.
It was shot up and it was aimed to go to a different landing location so it's like people
can go up same exact like craft land in like the facility it's like just shooting out like
are you talking about from like a long time ago no this was a couple months ago it was sweet
oh so so not timely no not a couple months ago no like a week or two not this week you're acting
like we missed something this week he was just getting concerned there's like a specific cadence um no going back to what you were saying mandami is not
going to uh push this in the right direction he's clearly anti he's clearly looking to cut funding
i believe the police union has already threatened major strikes if he's elected i think that will be
a step in the in the wrong direction.
How much can he actually do versus the city council? Because it seems like the city council
gridlocks things here a lot. It does. It does. The comptroller has the purse strings,
which is why it was ridiculous that Mayor Adams said he was going to do the Bitcoin bond because
he has absolutely no authority to push that through. He seems to become a flash guy,
you know, like say it and then nothing happens.
He's pretty fucking funny.
Yeah, I've heard he's amazing to hang out with.
Well, yeah, he's just saying it.
But yeah, there are a lot of checks.
But the mayor does have some latitude to fuck things up.
And also do a really good job.
Like, Bloomberg was great.
Well, I think we need a status check on the rat czar.
Rats were pretty bad a couple years ago.
I don't know if we need these fucking compost bins, but rats are down.
I miss the press conference where they came after the rats.
That was my favorite press conference.
That's where we need to go back to in America.
We need to go back to rats.
They were like really making a statement against the rats.
we will not stand for the rats.
The rat was my favorite Muppet.
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do you think that will ever move forward? Or do you think it's like, that's a fire that's
been extinguished? Well, you went, you went to, you know, putting social, social workers on public
transport or something. I think that you were saying earlier. But like, what was his rap sheet?
It was like 40, 14, 40 or something.
And then this is like really basic shit.
And the data that's come out from that is most people who commit the heinous
crimes in this country are repeat offenders.
So we have a DA album brag here in New York city that has a revolving door.
people are out very quickly out of the system and like
expected to go back and going back means nothing because they're fucking broke
but they happen to be violent and that happened with this guy happened with
many other ones that have been highlighted as ice and these you know
beautiful human beings that have you know fair amount of a criminal you know
violent history are getting a tremendous amount of support um this goes back to soros's um you
know strategy to deploy tremendous amount of funds at the state level and in the judiciary
and the da elections and get people in that are pushing whatever fucking agenda like i don't know
what agenda uh what what like second order third order effect he's looking for with this but it does
fucking blow like it's it's making things less safe the subway was safer under bloomberg and
giuliani when if you like forget it was like broken windows or whatever and there was the
racial profiling um not that racial profiling should make a full comeback but you know there
are some pretty bad statistics embedded around
repeat offenders and people that have you know a violent history yeah um i mean i agree uh she
would be alive today if that if that da actually just kept him in and judges and judges so that
blood's on their hands and it's a shame because I don't want the, her justice and to, you know, I don't want it drowned out.
But I think it's completely drowned out though.
Do you think it comes back after this, like Charlie Kirk?
I mean, there's, this is just so raw.
I don't think people are going to take like my perspective on it.
And I don't think it's like the general consensus.
They're linked in my head,
just like how close they were in the gravity of consensus. They're linked in my head. Just how close they were and the gravity of them,
they're linked in my head.
If I think of Charlie Kirk, I think of Arena as well.
So everything's just going up and to the right the wrong way.
So she's just like a step on that.
And now we have another person, larger, people know them more.
But then hopefully there's not something further,
but that's typically where you have an inflection point.
But it also brings up the question of how long is the Charlie Kirk,
how long is this going to be mainstream?
It's going to go on for a while.
This is going to go on for a long time.
I don't think this will go.
I've just found so much, so many different things that have happened
that it's the amazing shock factor,
and then you take the weekend off and you come back Mondayay and i don't think that's what's happening here
just because i really hope there's no one uppery with this one no i know like escalations here
start to get into like the conservatives and everything kind of is a one-up there was a school
shooting either the same day or the day after yeah but i mean and that's yeah no one knows
about that was denver yeah colorado uh the catholic
school in minneapolis that's gone yeah but the conservatives needs to be peaceful like they
cannot try to retaliate with violence no on that side or else they lose so how do you tell me it
needs to be i mean i and it's natural and I understand it. And I have a similar perspective initially with like conservative right, left, center.
We really need to like bring a conversation that just takes those words out of it.
I mean, the entire ecosystem is so fractured and split and bringing in conservative right, left, center.
It's just even more so divisive.
And no one's going to take to those conversations and take anything out of it
So I think we got time for a warmer topic we'll end on like a lighter one, please
Oh, no, well, let's let's close with that one. That's even lighter. Did you see the Tucker Carlson Sam Altman?
Conversation oh when he just straight up like, you know
Borderline he asks slash accuses Sam Altman of playing
a role in the death of the engineer I saw it I thought it's pretty it's really
incredible the reaction well Tucker has such a real gift in his ins doing doing
something that is sort of accusatory in kind of an aw shucks way he was I don't
know if I actually believe that. Yeah, it's like, bro, you do believe that.
It's like the inflection in his voice too when he does it.
I was really shocked both of them stayed so calm
and he was doing the, like, you know,
aw shucks dumb fuck face,
like, as he was straight up accusing Sam Altman of, like, lying.
Like a red and black strike?
Sam Altman went into, like, to his credit,
just, like, autistic Silicon Valley robot mode
and like kept going through.
He kind of turned a little bit aggressive,
I thought you were going to say, turn me on.
I thought you were going to say, kind of turn me on.
Altman's responses turned a little bit aggressive
in terms of like, what are you actually saying here?
Like, you're accusing me.
But Tucker, like, he kept going back to,
okay, so the security cameras cables were cut
and there was blood in three rooms
they decided that this was a suicide.
And he's just like, yeah, but it's clearly not.
And he's like, yeah, but they said it was a suicide.
I mean, what other response do you have?
They said it was a suicide.
so this does look fishy as fuck,
and I hate to laugh about it,
but you have to find some
dark humor just to cope with all this shit.
There was an exchange towards the end,
Tucker gets his serious, super soft voice going where's this like he uh his eyebrows i don't
think many people commit suicide after they order doordash he's just expecting a meal there's no
note there's nothing he's like well people and the same moment's like okay so people totally
commit suicide and they don't leave a note and i think that there's lots of people that order
doordash and then commit suicide.
That was the end of the back end.
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I don't know what he ordered.
I want to know what he ordered.
But yeah, you guys didn't see that one?
No, I didn't watch all of it.
It's crazy how when you grow up, you realize that everything is cartoon characters.
You know, it's all Batman.
You realize everything's fake.
The evil characters are real, and the good characters are real, and they're all caricatures.
So Sam Altman is like the evil tech guy
um speaking of caricatures I mean he's wearing a Pepe shirt look at that yeah he is well I mean
he's mostly Pepe everybody's Pepe is a mirror the good and bad is very contrasted right now
and I feel like the one thing about Charlie Kirk's death that has made me feel more moved is just how
life and he's such a christian and he really walked the walk and talked the talk and did all
the things and it actually made me want to be i like spent the last few days wanting to be in a
church a lot of the time just praying and makes me want to be more um emboldened as a christian
and so i think do you know how he met his wife? At a job interview.
So she had a company making,
I think like hoodies or something like that.
And for every hoodie they sold,
they donated a hoodie to a shelter
She interviewed for Turning Point
and he's like, I can't hire you.
Like, I'm really sorry. She's like, that's okay. This is great. He's like, I can't hire you. Like, I'm really sorry.
She's like, that's okay, this is great.
He's like, I can't hire you
because I think I want to date you.
And then they started dating.
Beautiful wife, beautiful kids, 31.
It's interesting hearing you bring up religion with it, though,
because something I saw recently
was a statistic about Gen Z is
for the past 30, 40 years,
it's been a downward trend of people that affiliate with any religion.
Gen Z is the first generation to actually have an increase in that.
And it's something that I changed in the past six to eight months.
I started going back to mass every Sunday,
building that community and having a centered, grounding place to go
and reflect and think and ponder and look forward like on my actions and look back
not only on myself but really just on everything it's a really it's it's the new paschal's wager
right it's like i don't know if there is a god but i don't want to be like you like that's what's
i think it's more than that i don't even think it's a like a hedge i think it's more than that. I don't even think it's like a hedge. I think it's people really
want purpose in life. Like I think they genuinely want purpose and meaning and my generation
millennials, we, there was so much of like a resistance to religion. Couldn't even talk about
it really with people. I would always like keep it a secret. I wouldn't even post about it.
Finally, I feel like I can just be myself. I've never had that stray away from church moment.
I've always gone to mass.
And so, but when I did, I was like,
oh, I'm a weirdo for going to church
because I was not popular with my generation.
And I'm happy that Gen Z feels comfortable
to talk about those things.
I was shocked by that statistic
because I don't find people necessarily talking about it.
I mean, I don't really talk
about it that much i mean i was the leader of my church's youth group in high school i was like
reading not the homily but reading the scripture like to the congregation every sunday like yeah
but it's still not something that i necessarily like vocalize and like really like shout from
the rooftop that it's what i do yeah and you don't don't have to. You don't have to. It's just, you know, I think if you want to...
I know that Will's just like,
Everybody's talking about what they did with their church
started five churches in Haiti.
I was going to say, next week on Hitsend,
Yeah, we should, we should.
I also have gone to Haiti with some nuns,
I went to 13 different apostolates
for kids with cerebral palsy in Jamaica
This is classic Catholic.
Yeah, this is a Catholic contender.
I went to a Jesuit college.
Went to a Jesuit college, too. Well, that's just because you're from the East Coast. That doesn't meanalian. Went to a Jesuit college too.
That's just because you're from the East Coast.
That doesn't mean anything.
I went to a Jesuit college too.
You're from the East Coast.
You guys do way more blow than Holy Cross.
Thanks, everybody, for listening.
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