Hello and welcome my sweet intelligent gorgeous charming hilarious co-host Jennifer and shadows. Hi
Hello long time no here. How are you? I am really I'm good. I'm really good
There's a lot of excitement around here. Devon has a
of one of his honky tonk songs filmed in Nashville like
Things you know things go wrong with things sometimes
So the recording saved and it's not all that but it is the first one and it is world premiere of a genuine
Wow, that's super cool. Yep. Yep at honky tonk central in downtown
And tomorrow there will be another one which is called. Let's see
So we'll see what that's like
He's on a roll. He's I know he's on a roll. We are on a roll. I really think that since
We all kind of got together started hanging out
things started taking off like tenfold
Yeah, it's like, you know when the bees pollinate the flowers they don't just pollinate one flower they pollinate all the flowers
I pollinate all the flowers
You're saying we've been pollinated
Well, you know the the wonderfulness of all the creativity and the generosity and the warmth and the love
You know, it all spreads around
I'm more I am working on um, i'm working on a pitch about
Now to this is this is for color forecasters
for colors three or four years away
Pull those things together yes
Because those things need accessibility too and
Because britain I have talked about this that should be at the forefront of what is in the design brief
Is that what is everyone?
Mathematically, the numbers keep coming out that
12 percent or one out of eight of the population are color blind or color deficient
Yeah, so we're just thinking about these things thinking about these egghead things that actually do make a difference
I think it broadens the awareness and the horizons. Hi Gretchen
Yeah, for instance, okay, let's just say that the forecast has to do with um data visualization which it does
a steaming capital of tornadoes
And so you need to be able to read charts of data
Coded by color so that you know
When you need to run for the hills and when you need to get in the tub and pull the mattress over you
And don't forget the dog and the cat and the dog and the cat and the plant
I just I had to tell you it was so wonderful meeting shadows and so many of the um of our
Our dear friends in creative work hour
But i'm not so sure that the plants are gonna make it. I don't want them to hear me
They they did not take it too well to you being gone
No, they did not at all. Well, you need to go don't go whisper sweet nothings and play. Um
Okay, so there is a sound that is present in
Or uh classical music some classical music not all
And the sonic bloom, um is like a it's kind of annoying for me as a human being but it's like click click click click click
It's like a pitch of clicks, but it replicates what the birds the sound the birds make and encourages plant growth
So go play some sonic bloom to your plants
And whisper sweet nothings to them
All they said was we're really thirsty
Yeah, so so rose rose you're in new england and everything everything flourishes in new england
Um, I i'm wondering do you have
Do you have any ideas of what I can do to rig?
Some nice drinks of water
Now she may not be where she can pick up that mic she may not have seen it
But yeah, there is there is cool stuff going on
Things are being made easier and easier. So so shadows when you first started with hive
How easy was it to maneuver and negotiate the platform?
Uh, if you were reading it was pretty easy, but when it came to
You better go learn markdown language first
And throw in a smattering of of html, but
Don't throw in too much because they may have disabled that particular html
And were you able to hi tramp
And oh you don't you don't get to upload images directly onto the platform
Well, I used the the service called imger
Oh, yeah, i've heard that I would upload them there and then use the link from there to display them on the on the post
That easy and then jennifer when you got active on hive
What was what was the state of affairs at that point? How easy was it to maneuver around the platform?
Um, I would say that the difficulty was me understanding it I I picked up some because I was using hive blog
I had to learn markup language
Um in order to get a little bit more
Of a feature rich experience
I hadn't looked at peak d which is like wordpress or essensee, which is like wordpress or which or microsoft word
They're pretty similar once I moved over then. Um, my mark
Uh, my markdown language has gotten a little rusty since then
But I think for the the challenge was more not in the feature sets
It was in me understanding what I do where and how
But I will go back to what shadow said back in august of 2017
When I wrote my original, you know little blog post on the legacy chain
They were pretty stark. I mean it was minimal
I was not long-winded at all. So yeah, it was definitely more challenging back then than it is now for sure
And now what I noticed from last week
Jennifer lost her mind over this new feature
With essensee. And so I thought we could like officially open up the show
And just dive right in how does that sound?
Love it. Yeah, so welcome everybody. Welcome if you are on
The recording because we have friends all around the world. We are used to working across
sometimes up to eight different time zones for creative work hour and
Because this is late in the day
Where we are in north america
Europeans the the brits that come right on into the space
Or listen to the recording afterward
But if our friends from down under hop in well, they're just happening their morning cup of tea
So it's it's all it's all good just to have that awareness of some people drinking wine. Some people are having their cup of tea
Yeah, so welcome to hive space
One of your three hosts this with the most this and we love hive
We'll have to talk about hive experiment with hive some of us spend more time every day than the others experimenting
Others dabble around but we're we're all in it
and i'm i guess i'm still i'm i'm the rookie of the bunch and
senior of the bunch and I think that uh
We can safely describe shadows as she's the graduate student doing her own thing. She's like, yeah
I'm not gonna do anything. I don't really really want to do
Shadows, how are you today?
I was wondering where you were gonna go next when you when you said that jennifer was the senior. I thought oh my god
What am I the senior senior?
My uncle calls himself the senior senior
Because of his age, he won't call himself old. He just calls himself a senior senior
Yeah, that sounds like something you've earned
Finally got the coloring books uploaded today for them. Oh, congrats
Now I have to get the one thing
Um, you go to this site and you do the process and you upload them
You do you do the thing and then the thing is
What does what does it mean for them to be in review?
That means that somebody there will look at it and make sure that it comes up to their um
Their standards so to speak
And then we'll release it
Wait between the time that you have submitted and this this is to kendall direct is that right? Yeah
If it was a journal, it would probably take close to 10 days
Is that's kind of counterintuitive isn't it because there's a lot more content to a coloring book than to a journal
Yeah, there's a lot more of the journals being uploaded
Well, jennifer has put into the nest that little tiny billboard that's at the top
Right below the title of this twitter space. She's put there the image that I
Said bad words god. I was trying to upload that image
with with jennifer's um avatar in the upper left hand corner so you could see that it was from her screen and
A terrible time trying to get that thing uploaded and it pulled up the whole post
So, you know, i'm the rookie i'm the rookie
uh, but yeah jennifer talked to us about uh
What you've been creating this week kind of across the board and we love to hear about
All you heard or saw this new feature for easancy for the first time
So i've created a twitter list and I call it. I mean a twitter list a hive
Well, it's a twitter list, but it's a hive superstars
And so occasionally i'm here on twitter and i'll go and take a look and see what people are talking about
And several people were talking about easancy's new decks and I was like decks what?
So I thought let me go look and poke around. What is that?
And it wasn't hard to find because it was right at the top. It was said decks
I was like, okay click and then when I saw it i'm like, oh
Like tweet deck or like hootsuite. Okay, I get it
And I created my little decks and I could continue going if I wanted to but I just
Just was like this is amazing because right now
What I do is I go to peek d or debuzz and I kind of read around and then i'll go to my the people that i'm following
Trending or new and see what I can curate and then i'll go to like two and
I'll kind of float around a little bit. I'll go to different places
But it's just part of me wandering, you know, I kind of like the little bit
It's kind of like you go to the bookstore and you wander
That's how I feel about the time I spend on hive
I'm just kind of wandering around the aisles of the bookstore and looking at different areas
But when I saw what essensee had because it was very similar to a tweet deck and hootsuite
I was like the bookstore is everything in the bookstore is right here where I wanted. I don't have to go walk anywhere
Um, not to say there isn't a beauty in walking a bookstore. There is but it was kind of cool. So I
All the micro blogs because there's three micro blogs which by the way essensee just launched waves, which is their micro blog
Leo leo leo finance has threads which is their micro blog and then debuzz is the original micro blog
Um, and so they now have a place in decks where you can put all of the micro blogs under one
And I was like, oh, it's kind of cool
The challenge is that um leo threads kind of overwhelms all the others. So I did create another one
That's just debuzz so I can keep up with everyone that I follow on debuzz
But then i'm like, oh, I like the cinnamon cup coffee people. Oh, I like wednesday walk
Oh, I like to see what's going on with ariel, you know
So it's kind of cool and the nice things I can move things around left to right. I can add more
I can I can actually uh create content from decks
And it can go to debuzz or it could go there. It could go to three. Oh threads or other places
so I kind of like that flexibility and fluidity it's
the thing I like about debuzz is that I can actually tweet from debuzz or I can put a gif and right now as
Decks looks for me if I were going to create a debuzz or a buzz inside of
Decks for debuzz. It doesn't allow me to do a gif. It doesn't allow me to change the
The default value that I want to receive right now
The default is one and sometimes i'll go like, you know to one and a half or one and a quarter or two
Or three or something just just to see what'll happen
And inevitably when I don't make the change, you know, somebody like brydon london comes in as like, you know, two dollars. I'm like
So sometimes I make that adjustment so I couldn't make that adjustment in decks
Um nor could I go to twitter? So I actually want to debuzz in order to do those things
But I have to tell you if you wanted a quick at a glance
And and be able to create content and consume content in one place instead of wandering the aisles of the bookstore
Now were you a user of is tweet decks still around you can tell i'm not using it
Yeah, twitter bought them a long time ago, I think it's still floating around
Yeah back in the day. Yes and hootsuite for sure. I was I was at south by southwest when the
Guys came from hootsuite were there and they they were like deserve room. Can I sit at your tables like sure
They handed me their big fat oversized business card
And the rest was history. They they made it big at south by southwest, but they were just
Some canadians in austin trying to make it big and they did
When is the techie version of south by southwest?
Yeah, all three of them happen. Um one right after the other with a little bit of overlap and actually there's a fourth one
Actually, there's five the main three are film television and interactive
Um, I mean music film interactive, right? Was music the first one?
And then it was movies and then it was interactive
And then there's two others. There's an education one. That is the week before
And then there's the gaming one which they used to call screen burn
But now they just call south by southwest gaming
So that's another one that happens about the same time as interactive, but it's usually at the palmer center
Not inside of the convention center
education south by southwest
One of the crew of creative work hour was on the stage
Our own meg and she is into and she's here on twitter as well. She's into work regarding the alter ego
You know, how how do you how is it? What is it that triggers your wonder woman to come out?
Or your superman to come out
And you know, I think I have more than one
Wait, are you like the whole justice league in one?
Yeah, I think that's but I mean think about it. We're not just one thing
Yeah, we're we we're multifaceted, right?
And and the so let me dive into this a little bit because I think it answers
Maybe some of this that a lot of us feel i've been really challenged lately
And i've shared this with you all in the past by, you know paid coaching and different people telling me
I can only do one thing and and the creator camp was stemmed from that right because I said it's all one thing
It's all being a creator. It's just like the library or in the bookstore. There's different sections
So I was talking to one of the coaching groups and telling them, you know
This frustration I have and they said they were again advising me to cut off all of my body and only use one
Only use my arm. The rest of you is confusing. Just use your arm
And I was like, no, no, and then somebody said well
We had a guest here and I can't remember the name of the woman
I'll have to go look it up
They're like she was a guest a couple weeks ago. Were you here for that?
And i'm like, I think I was doing I was not even
in front of a computer that day and
I was on I was on in the car and stuff. And so I said no, I didn't make it and they said well
She actually talked about being a human venn diagram and I was like
Describe because because people will recognize what that is
But just describe it because somebody may know that that type of illustration by another name
Well, so a venn diagram, right is like a bunch of circles and there's an overlap of all the different things
And it could be for any topic or anything
And the sweet spot is usually the part where all of the circles overlap
Or triangles or whatever is to shape it is right overlap because that's the thing that they all have a unifying thing around
And so apparently this woman was
In some graduate program and as she was trying to explain things people would get confused and she realized
That she was this human venn diagram. And so now when people ask her who are you and what do you do?
She says i'm a human venn diagram and instead of them going oh, it's too much. We can't understand you they lean in
Because they understand what a venn diagram is and now they're fascinated to want to learn
What are the overlapping pieces that get to the very center of what her specialty is or what her sweet spot is?
And that how can it impact them or benefit them? And when I heard that I was like
That's what it is. That's what it is right there
It's it's not that people want me to cut off all of my pieces of my body and only use my arm because it's confusing
It's that i'm not explaining it to them in a way that they can understand it and by using a venn diagram
Because we've encountered it at some point in our education in our work in our whatever
Then all of a sudden I make sense to them because they can put me in a compartment that their brains can understand
And I thought I don't have to cut off all the parts of my body and only show them an arm
Because that's all they can process as an arm
That it's actually a whole lot of things and the thing that applies to you is maybe this one thing
Or maybe it's this other thing
So it was very liberating and freeing so I share that big-ass long story because a lasandra
If you are the all of the members of the justice league, it's because you're a human venn diagram
Well, I love that because well one it's infographics, isn't it? It's like yeah here here is something
That's rather complicated. This was the same thing. Nobody understood abraham maslow
They were like we have no idea what you're talking about and you're boring us because by the time he's done
Explaining a hierarchy of needs people were just ready to impale themselves like
You know blame it on new york
They can come up with these crazy ideas of what what you know
Like shaddas and I were talking the other day about bacon bacon used to be the thing that would just get thrown out with the scraps
until someone on madison avenue said
What if we could do something with that? What if we could
cut it into a shape where it's not so yucky looking and
You know, we could get some images and what if we could make that into a thing and then
That's how oscar meyer happened. It was madison avenue
Off the floor and be like is this something we can sell? Is that something we can sell?
madison avenue was really good with
Infographics and put this, you know was reading all of this stuff
I get it, you know, really if you just put it like a
Are the things that you need the most and then after that the things that you need
vitally as what's at the foundation and he just like did this little sketch and boom everybody understood and boom that
very concept started appearing in
Journals of psychiatry and psychology and when you say maslow's hierarchy
That's how it that's how it all came to be because there was a framework that explains
Almost the whole thing just by the shape of it
So when you say the ben diagrams where each circle is representing an interest or a talent or some kind of giftedness
what it makes me think of is
Precious little neighborhood and every house is just darling and right now because the weather is warm
Every few houses you can see that there's a bucket of colored chalk
And so people just walk by and they just might make their little, you know, hopscotch patterns
And i'm like instead of like them being squares. I see them as
Circles and we could like have hopscotch patterns. That's the venn diagram because I don't know that I ever
Want to be in that spot where all those circles?
If I travel I can see creative work hour people
Take some risks with my music
I can see creative work hour people and take risks with
color forecasts or public speaking
Done the travel seeing people in real life
Play the clarinet public speak and produce color forecasts all at the same time
Even though that's only five things
If it's too much it's only because you're letting it be too much
Because if you want to do it you'll work it out you'll work out a method I like the idea of hopscotching
I also think there's the flow think about the flow
Right the you think about birds. So we have this mated pair of very large birds that are always
Riding the currents on the land. That's between you know
There's a big dip in between and that's riding these they're riding these currents
And it seems to me that they're gonna like it that they're going low and oh my gosh
They're gonna have to flap their wings. Nope
Not even flapping their wings riding the currents back up high in the air and they're just gliding on these currents
And so to the normal to me a human being
Looking at this it looks chaotic
But to them it's musical it's magnificent and it's of course, that's how it should be
They get to enjoy being them
Okay, so let's apply this to this new feature
With with decency the decks
now now if we are if we are
Like managing change in your pocket managing your cash if we're managing
The denominations of bills in our wallet
For ease of use so that we can go to the coffee shop or we can go to the store
We can go to the bookstore
How could we use how do you foresee decks helping us manage our many interests?
So one of the things that so I help people get on
And one of the things that is always challenging for newbies to the black chain
Is they are accustomed to writing a post on twitter writing a post on facebook writing a post on linkedin
Writing a post on instagram, right?
They're accustomed to writing almost the same post but in all these different places because people are on those different places
And I think the bigger challenge for them
Is realizing that you just write it in one place
Whatever you want you want to do a photo. You can do it on light too
You don't have to do it on light too. You can you can do it on debuzz?
You could do it on peak d but that you don't have to replicate that photo
In all of those places because wherever you chose for it to be it is everywhere
Already and I think with decks because it's you can see everything all at once
I think I don't know we're gonna experiment because it's brand new
I think this is going to become part of my training in workshops
In the onboarding so that everyone can see that it's
All one thing in all one place because they'll be able to see it in that way
I think I don't know. It's it's brand new an idea if it works out that it appears like that
Yeah, is that you're right. That has been a
Stumbling block for a lot of people
You know, how many times have we heard a new person say well i'm on peak d but I haven't signed up for decency yet
Uh, you don't have to find out for decency. Yep
Or i'm on debuzz and how come other stuff isn't showing up there?
I'm like because it only does micro blogs
But if you go to your profile on hive.blog or peak d recency or anywhere else you can see all the things
So I think that's the the the layer and and why because hive actually does it right
Wherever on the blockchain that it should be visible whereas we've been trained incorrectly
By traditional social media that you must copy paste copy paste copy paste copy paste in all the places in order to be seen
By all the people and so it's a bad habit that we've been trained on
And to untrain ourselves into what actually is more of an organic and natural way of doing things which is how high it has it
It takes a bit now. It's not too much. It does take a bit though
I i'm hoping that by having the ability to show decks, which again looks like tweet deck or hoot suite which most folks are familiar with
Is hopefully will be that i'm going to tell them the bookstore analogy and let's see if the bookstore analogy works
You know or if or and if it doesn't it's i'm always trying to come up with
Simple ways of explaining things so that there's faster and simpler adoption
Only time will tell i'll have to report back at some point in the future
So shadows do something this week and i'm like
Now you have to explain this to me. So what I saw
Tell me if i've got this wrong shadows
What what I think that I saw was that she did a post over on debuzz
Okay, you're over here with me in debuzz and she's like, no, I wrote that on peak d and i'm like what?
No, it was the other way around I was the other way around
Yes, put it on debuzz and then I did some editing on peak d. Yes
We do that with ariel too like when you post something on ariel, it's not it doesn't have a really great editor
So then you go to peak d and you edit the show notes so that it looks more like how you would want it to
I've got my show notes coming through if i put them up directly onto my website
What I do need to go in to do though every every time my podcast comes out is I need to go in and change the image
Oh, well so we do that on peak d
Right peak d is kind of like a good one
But you know what? Um, I don't know if you've been inside of the discord
Shub and the team are getting ready to launch
The live rooms they're they've been testing it for a while and they have a beta site and i've gone over there and kind
Of poked around a little bit, but I think they're there. They may be releasing it soon as an actual
Live production model. So cross our fingers. It happens, you know soon that we then we can go play around over there and see what's what it's all about
He must be pretty excited
Yeah, they've been worked on it for a bit
But it looks really nice like what they have there. It's I mean they have such a good visual aesthetic. I mean ariel just looks good
So they they definitely have kept that visual aesthetic and I do like the way it looks it's got a good vibe
I should mention that um, we are working on getting the developer for the
Easency who of course is the developer for the deck
When we get them on it's going to be a day when we have to shift the time to accommodate his time zone
All the time all the time
Is it's like four o'clock in the morning there right now for him?
Yeah, that wouldn't be very wouldn't be very good host of us to be like yeah, you can come over
But it's gonna have to be a four eight. No, that wouldn't that wouldn't work out that well
Yeah, so today was uh on hive chat
We hive chat itself hosted it and I I did a play on the hot girl summer and it was hot hive summer
Can you please explain to me? Why everything that is coming out of social media has to do with?
Is it like a haiku except not or what?
What did you say he got cut off?
Said what's the deal with the uh, the hot summer and the sand and the whole thing?
What is what is that all about? Is it just a theme or is it like a haiku?
I think it's just people think about going to the beach or to the lake or something for the summer time
But you know hot girl summer is a meme, right?
Everybody's like you gotta get ready to be you know for hot girl summer and it's like, uh, i'm gonna go for winter girl summer
Look I I I just I just found I I went I went to this
I went to this place. It was like a spa. I went to get my nails done, but it was a spa
And so it had like this really really nice
Big like oh here are all the deodorants that you can try and here's like here's the different kind of hair dryers that you can
Try and I saw this big apothecary jar
With a with the lid on it the glass lid
And I pulled that up and I just took one of those
Disposable razors. I'm like, I haven't seen a razor
So I was thinking when I think about apothecaries and that kind of stuff I think of like mortars and pestles and that kind of cool
Um kind of cool old-fashioned way of doing things. Although I know we can still do that to this day
I'm like cucumber water champagne, but that razor's going with me
But then I found it kind of overwhelming so i'm like, you know what we can hack this
There is no rule that says that you have to do both legs at the same time
That's it or one just do the front to the back later
so so i'm curious bez have you seen the the what I posted up there with the um
With eason c decks kind of like hoots like tweet deck and that and hoot suite
He's hanging out but he's not here i'm here i'm here i'm just curious
How's it going bez hey bez good to see you on discord
Good to see you on discord too. Yeah, i'm just uh, you know out and about doing some uh
Needed purchases. So yeah, i'm listening. So uh enjoying the conversation
Okay. All right. Awesome. Well, thank you for joining
I think it's really fun when people take us with them
Hivespace. Oh, we've got creative work hour on the go
Did this exterior tour of this?
13th century scottish castle
So we're all in creative work hour and he's like, okay
So if you don't have to get something done by the end of the hour, i'm just gonna take you on this tour
It's like it was so much fun
Yeah, that was a different kind of squirrel that day
Yeah, that's fun, I mean I think that's the
The fun part of all of this, you know
We may not be able to physically go to those places that we can certainly virtually and vicariously live in those places or be there
Jennifer are you finding that you're using?
Threads more now that you've got the deck
Or were you using them before anyways? I threads to me seems overwhelming
I kind of like and and yet, you know, I kind of like maybe i'm just like the slower pace of things
I kind of like the way that debuzz is wave is new i've created my first wave yesterday
So i'm seeing threads more it's what it is because of their on decks
Um, and I I am getting a better sense of threads and getting a better comfort level with it because every time I would go
To leo threads proper. I just felt so overwhelmed by what was there. I was like, oh my gosh
So I would kind of back away quietly and hope nobody noticed that I was even looking
And you know because it's like oh my gosh
And i'm like, let me go back to debuzz where it's it's quieter and slower and I can read it and you know
Just kind of be in my little quiet space
Um, but I I am getting a little bit more
Oh kind of comfortable with threads because it's on deck
So will I embrace it more? Maybe i'm not as i'm not backing away like I used to
I'm i'm i'll sit there and kind of look at it and read a little bit and kind of get a sense of
Because that's a lot of conversation happening there. I mean a lot
I don't know how people have so much to say i'm like, I don't have that much to say
I don't know. Maybe I should I don't know
Something for the first time today. I'm sorry to interrupt you. I I did my very first
So they've got the shirts, um concept like youtube does where they're you know, um
Is that what you mean? Yeah
Yeah, because I downloaded the three speak app and logged in with the hive keychain
Um, which was I hadn't done that before I was kind of like oh god
But I was like, you know what let's do this thing and it was like me just talking which is boring
But I think you know how everybody does those fancy reels and they do the fancy
Shorts and even you know fancy tiktoks or whatever where they're all like doing these whole things
I never really felt inspired to do any of those. I would just talk like i'm gonna talk
That's how I would do the shorts or the reels. It's just me talking
But with the three speak shorts for some reason i'm like, oh, it would be fun to do something like that
So, I don't know it kind of let my inner child out to play. There's something there. I don't know what it is, but something there
One of the things I did with these these coloring books is I created
They're walked through basically. It's a
It's like a reel except that it's it's just me flipping the pages through this the book
And it's about a minute and 30 seconds or something like that. So it sounds like I can upload it to three speak now
Yeah, because I I was thinking
Facebook and youtube and instagram sounds like I think I can add three speak to it. Yes. It's pretty cool
And I actually started, you know skimming through
You know how if you're looking at a reel an instagram reels or whatever or facebook you start skimming through
I started doing that I was like, man, it's kind of fun
To do it on high now. Here's the one thing. I don't know
I don't know how to upvote on three speak because I was like, oh that was really good
I want to upvote them and I thought i'm logged in because i'm logged in through hive keychain
And I didn't see how I could upvote someone
So I don't know there must be a way to do it
I would think I wouldn't imagine that they would allow you to have it and not be able to upvote someone
So I got to poke around a little bit
Yeah, I haven't spent too much time on three speak, but yeah, that's a good idea. So what is the difference between?
Wave and debuzz here. Is there a difference like
No, it's pretty similar. I mean, I don't think well wave doesn't so on debuzz proper
You can do gifts and you can and and you can
Go to twitter and so it's a little bit more feature rich
Is is inside of decks on decency only as far as I can see and it's it's like a little micro blog post
Not a gift but a photo and then just do your little what you want to say
And that's it. It's pretty simple
So far, I mean i've only done one
But I was like, oh, it's kind of fun. Like yeah, I kind of get it, you know
But again playing around what what does it do pushing the buttons pulling levers and and I have to say
Does it show up in your all posts on your your say if you went over to the pt would it be in all posts?
It's like a thread you're right. Yeah, exactly
Okay, I got lost. I got lost. Oh my gosh, you're right. It's a thread
They're calling it a wave, but it's it's like threads. Yep
Which makes debuzz superior yeah
They're basically a comment like thread is yeah. No debuzz is still superior in that way for that reason
Okay, because it's an actual post
Sorry, Alessandra. We got lost go ahead. No, I got lost. I got lost but I was just going to say. All right, so we debuzz
Is one category of a of a thing and waves and leo threads
Are another category now they're very similar
What are the distinctions?
decentralized app threads is a feature
Threads is a feature of leo finance
And uh waves is a feature for essencing
Which since he is a dap and leo finance is a dap
So in the interaction and the engagement of posts what's the difference?
Threads has had a lot of hype so there is a
Activity and engagement over there because people you know
Leo people are are in there and they're they're looking at the threads and they're they are
They are promoting them in a lot of areas like I think scholar and scribe has a setup where they they pretty much
Promote all their their posts over on threads
There's a couple other communities that have done similar
Where they they kind of give?
Extra tokens if you go and promote on leo threads
So extra tokens that hits the hashtag light bulb in my head that says
Can we can we slow down for just a second and and and talk about?
First and second layer tokens and how that would how work with the post when something new like this comes up
Well, they're paying for attention is really what it is
You know, it's really what it comes down to
They wanted it to be they wanted to get gain traction. And so they're going to reward people for spending time
There and that's a great way to do it. It really is it works because threads is very busy
Um, and by the way shadows
Have you noticed that the leo token the value of it on the second tier has gone up recently like like impressively so
And some of that is the the activity of it
Yeah, I was like what just happened here. This was here and now it's here
What's going on it? And so I wondered if it had something to do with that
That's my guess on it. And then of course decency has this point system, which is kind of cool
For doing different things on the east east and see front end or even a discord
Well, I haven't done too much in the discord itself
But on the decency front end if you do a post you get a certain number of points and if you
Um reply to a comment you get a certain number of points if you if you post a comment you get a certain number of points
Easency in your browser and just leave it open while you're good while your computer's on you could earn points
Yeah, you get point two five, uh for having a heartbeat
Yep, basically and those points can be utilized to
To put bonuses on to people's uh posts sort of like tipping
So you can you can do, you know, say
I don't know 300 points or something and you apply it to a post
And they'll get a high equivalent up vote
But it needs to be an decency post if i'm correct because I I was trying to upvote
Somebody who had written on like debuzzer peak d and they would like give me my money back and I was like, what's going on?
Yeah, you have to go to east and see and do the boost
So, how do you do that shadows
You when you're on decency you go to the person's post
And where the three little dots are, um, I think they call that on the lipsy
Uh with those three little dots are you if you click on there you'll see a menu pop up and it'll say boost
And you just say boost and you tell it how many points you want to boost to buy
And it'll apply a high vote
Yeah, or you can promote your own stuff too
I've done that on occasion, but not too often. I usually try to hold on to it for somebody else
I have been to somebody else at a time and it was like a nice wonderful surprise
I think I have I think i've dropped it onto yours a couple of times. Jennifer. That's what I said. Yeah, right
You know, I do these things and then I forget and then I go oh, yeah, right maybe I did
No, you did. That's what I was saying. I've been the beneficiary of that
It's like all of a sudden. This is a nice little wonderful surprise like oh
It's been a while since i've done one it's about time I went on a little campaign because
I'm kind of accumulating them
I have about 4000 points there right now. Yeah, I'd better start using them
No way, I don't remember earning. Um, I've got 4000 points sitting here. I'm like, oh my gosh, you know
Points this is this week, um
I hadn't used I hadn't used my airline points in
And I forgot about it. I'm like, you know, nobody was flying and so I just forgot that I had anything there
So when it came time to pay for my tickets this week
And if you catch it 86 000 of them that's worth 540 dollars and i'm like
Well i've done i've done this similar with the you know, the tokens accumulate on the on the
Hive engine or tribal decks whichever you want to use
And I really don't have a concept of how many I have
Uh bluefin was talking to me the other day. We were talking about the power-up days
And I mentioned, oh there's a leo power-up day. I
Uh, you need to power up 150 of them and I says I don't think I have 150
I went over to hive engine. I looked at oh, yeah, I got 150
No, that's awesome. I hadn't even noticed i've been accumulating them. I just keep every now and again. I go in and stake them and that's it
Yeah, don't forget everybody. The first is a hive power-up day
And yes, it's the first of each one always a high power-up
And the leo power-up day is on the 15th. I'm better
Oh, I thought it was the 14th
Um, but no, I think you're right. I think you're right. Okay. Oh
Tell us what a power-up day is
Go for it. Jennifer. Sure. Uh, please correct me because I've only recently started doing it myself
But hive power-up day is the day that the entire chain makes an effort
To power up a minimum of 10 hive for themselves, but most people do more
Or you can be a power-up helper and power up a minimum of 10 for someone else
So you win those cute little b badges, but you can do more and the little b on your badge. Um, it will be a
Bigger for a larger power-up and smaller for a smaller power-up, but it's a way to stake into the blockchain
In other words, you are investing and pretty much locking up
And I say locking it up, but it's locked up for 13 weeks, right? So it's a way to promote stability
On the chain and a way to up your vote value because the more high power you have
The higher your vote value is or the more that someone if in combination with somebody delegating to you
You know when people sign up underneath me I delegate to them so that they have the ability to post because if not
You got to earn the right to post
So having people who can delegate to you
Really makes a big difference when you're first getting started and even when you've been on it for a while
So having a whale come and and delegate some to you makes a big difference in
The upvote and I think people will delegate to others that they see really making an effort
To encourage that behavior and because when you upvote there's a reward system tied to it both
For the creators and the curators
So high power up day has many layers to why it's beneficial for us as individuals
And it's most certainly beneficial to the blockchain to encourage stability and investment from the creators and the curators
I think at any given time about 40 of my stake is delegated out to
Yeah, that's and it's such a powerful thing because that's that's leveraging and and encouraging
The behavior that you want more of on the chain and I think that's why it being community driven
Is so powerful. I mean, I heard the interview that dan did recently
Or I finally heard the andrew quinn one that he did and then I heard him and uh,
Who's the three speak guy from the uk? I can't imagine. There you go. I heard them on the most recent ctt
uh, the community token talk and i'm just like
This is why i'm such a fan of what hive is doing
Because it's just real people like there's not a ceo somewhere. There's not some venture capital, bro
There's not none of that stuff. It's us. We are it
I doesn't bring hive as much attention as some of these other chains do but I think we've got the better quality
Chain with a lot more solid base
Yeah, we don't want that other kind of attention. It's gonna be a luna
No, no, it's oh my gosh. There's so much going on there, but yeah
So this goes back to these two big huge updates in this one week
The ecNC decks and uh three speak being on the ios and android and the ability to just do
Shorts or videos or whatever from your mobile device. I'm telling you. I feel like it's a christmas
I'm, so glad that you came back around and
Highlighted that because I have spent I don't know
25 percent of this particular conversation
Why didn't you play the the um
Tech card the anti-expert card. Yeah that one. See it's been so long since you used it. I've forgotten what we called it
Kept I kept thinking that the smoke would clear and i'd be okay and then when jennifer just said something about um about
The equivalent of shorts like what youtube does the shorts that we could do those on three speak on
On ios i'm like wait what what I miss that all together
I i'm just I can already see so my hot girl or hot hive summer is going to be doing all that
All that i'm I I can't wait
Okay, so what what can we do because there's been this disparity?
Resistant with those of us that are new when we're used to the land called there's an app for that
And then we come over and in stewart tremble is also one of those who have sentiment
Um, we come over to hive and we're like
Everything's in the browser
We want we want we want the app. We want the phone. We want the little cute thumbnail
So what is there in the hive ecosystem at this point that we're aware of?
Where we can we can download an an app
Ease and c. Ease and c was there first and longest as far as I know
Um, ease and c, uh three speak ariel of somebody was telling me that light 2 has a mobile
It does is that I haven't been able to find it. Is that something anyone can confirm?
I can't confirm that but then I haven't looked
But yeah, i've i've had the decency app for
God, it's got to be three years four years
Well, I was using that today and I was
Writing a post and I was using my ipad pro. So I was using my apple pencil
And then I got caught with I got tangled up with trying to get the image that I wanted
The whole thing kind of got quagmired and the post did not go out
Well the hive keychain too though you would need hive keychain to run all these things
Um, and and here was the thing I did not know
Is that you when you are doing the hive keychain you go to the desktop hive keychain
And you click on the little option that says qr code
And on your phone you take a snapshot of the qr code and it fills everything in for you. It was a miracle
And then just did a copy paste out of there and into in decency and that's how I got decency going
Then I deleted it out of the notes app
No, this was amazing. It was miraculous. I was like, oh
Yeah, that's that's pretty cool. That's why there's that qr
Code option is so that we take the image with with a device
Yeah and run and run off and play in the playground
So I don't do any posting from the the mobile that's that don't do much of anything on mobile
But one thing that I really have used decency a lot for
Is I let the notifications run so that they come up onto my screen
So I can catch things, you know, like comments that are being made if I want to go and reply to them and that sort of thing
Wow, it's so cool, but you know
I still feel like such a beginner
No, the more you use it. Well, the thing is here's the deal you use it more but it's also
Look at today this week two brand new features, you know
The the everyone's a beginner now with these things, right? So
And they haven't I don't think they've released the the version with the deck in on mobile yet
I think that's coming next
Ah, okay. I would that that sounds reasonable that that would be a laptop desktop
That's why I was saying I hope that when they do come out with the deck available
That they then allow you to do landscape because right now you I can only do
And landscape would make the deck a whole lot better on the the mobile
Yeah, well, it'll be really it'll be really fun that when we have
When we have no who's who is the name of the person who is at the helm over at decency?
Good karma. That's right. So when good karma comes we'll have we will have kicked the tires a little bit
And you can go hey, wait a minute we got to talk about this contrast and um
Portrait or landscape is that's how they come up with it on the mobile. We may not even need to ask
Well, it sounds like we have covered
Public and then we and then some like we always do we got to go and do errands and things with bez
Gretchen was here. That was fun. Rose was here. Devin is here
I told them about I told them about your your your Nashville debut
So exciting shucks. Will you remember us when you're famous?
He's like he doesn't remember us
I'm sorry. I stumbled in here out of the cold. I
Thought there were snacks. He's like, who are you? What's going on?
I opened the freezer. I actually only signed on to say that so i'm sitting here
Listening and i've got mumbo in my lap and you know, I mean
Shadows you're speaking like, you know, you're the contributor
But the real contributor is behind you besides you tramp is clearly
Taking the microphone and mama was very concerned
Tramp's well being mama was meowing at the phone crying worried about what's going on with
The cat in the space. So I just wanted to sign on to make sure that tramp was okay
I suspected that was more like mobile going don't bring that thing here
Maybe yeah, yeah, that's possible. But yeah, like we're all stocked up here
No more interlopers needs to boost it up
I don't want you to I don't want you to be sitting over there going. Was it something I said? Why? Where did everybody go?
Just I just sent her a mic video has a new thing going she has a new account with her co-host for her twitter space
I was just gonna see if you wanted to tell say a little something about that vinnie. How are you?
Maybe she's in the car on her way home
So I wonder if bez is near his mic and he's been listening to a jacket whether he's getting curious now
About going and testing out high
He has an account of maybe last year I sent him a token and he created an account
So he has an account because remember I think that's after so long you can claim a token or something
I don't know. I had a token either that or maybe I there was also a point
I think where I bought some tokens. I don't remember and actually I don't know what what do you still have them?
Okay, then they're somewhere
Um, but I I gave one to bez so he has an account. It's just a matter of the doing
Well, I think that's that's part of the purpose that we fulfill here in hype space
You know if you can't really if you don't have a brain cell for it yet
You can just come here and just let it wash over you
Remember when jennifer mentioned about the 13 weeks that we stake our our you know
When I first started that was two years
Yep, that was like having a certificate of deposit that was for 24 months
Yep, if you wanted to take your your steam at that time
You would get it in 24 equal payments
A month at a time then they brought it down to 13 weeks
Well, pardon me. No, it was two years, but you did get a weekly so you got a hundred and
Then two, uh, no 104 equal payments
Not too many people decided to to power down
Hey, hey, how's everybody doing? Sorry, i'm late. I got
I got I fell down a rabbit hole in an alien space like a ufology space and I was just like
Oh my gosh ancient alien skinwalker ranch i'm all about that
Yeah, um, I really love the ufo twitter community
So a lot of interesting stories and interesting people to listen to
Um, yeah, no, uh, alisandra. I we my my editor and I started uh,
Poetrylights that account back in october of last year
Uh, we were doing weekly spaces, but I am super super super busy with work. I've got two cases going to trial
I'm working 12 14 hour days. So we were just like, okay, we're going to put spaces on hold
But we also have a writing group on telegram. So that was another inspiration to start the account. Yeah
We're interested in everything creative, you know, tell us about your writing group on telegram. Uh, it's prompt driven
I love telegram for the security of it
You can't copy and paste stuff from there. You have to like retype it all
Um, it allows for prompts and then you can basically stay in that prompt channel within the group
um, so we post prompts we analyze poems we
Uh play we write haiku sometimes
Sometimes we do picture prompts. Yeah, so it's just getting those creative juices keeping them flowing
So glad to be by so that we could pick up that little that little creative
Uh event and it meets weekly or what?
Nope, it's just there all the time and I just post prompts and people can write, you know as they're able to and
It just flows itself. It's not um, it's not anything we meet and do so. Yeah
All right. Well, that sounds very cool
Well, we wish you the very best of luck with
You do pay attention to the details and you have a memory like nobody's business. So i'm sure that um
That the cases that you're working on will roll forward and we wish you the best of luck with those
I appreciate it. It's a couple that
Of those cases that you're like, no, we're not settling this for we're gonna go ahead and go to trial just because they're so good
Um, I also want to tell you
I have a book another book coming so i'm hoping everything will be done for
Rachel to do a book launch space in the beginning of july. So i'm excited about that too
Can you say that one more time jennifer i'm sorry
I said, what are you doing your spare time? Yeah, that was shadows. Oh, hey shadows
I laughed because boy howdy spare time. What's that?
Play with my grandkids. I just want to tell you a funny story
I have my grandkids this weekend and so I was bending over and I was sweeping and my three-year-old ground her granddaughter goes
Say I earned every every inch of that
Yeah, yeah, I love kids so much it's just like pure honesty, right
I love it. You know, I don't i'm not gonna fall. I'm not even gonna try to follow that
I think minnie, you don't want to follow a big fat booty, Alessandra
Something about the pronunciation on here
Well, baz came back to the mic let him follow it
Yeah, baz you think you can you can follow vinny's bum story
Absolutely, not but uh, I can follow
He's like i'll follow a big fat booty
Um, I mean, uh, jennifer you did give me a um, hive and I started setting it up
I had problems with one part of it
Like the key on one so I got to figure it out and I never went back to it
Uh, I think I initially told you about it and then um, I just you know, but you still have your keys, right?
I do. I do have all the passwords and keys and then then it can be figured out for sure
I'm I was just listening to some of the stuff you said you were doing and I thought was pretty cool
And check it out, you know when I have a two seconds. Um, I think you'll like it bez
It's becoming more and more robust. I mean even just in the the couple years that i've been super active
It's so much more robust. There's such a more the community is more vibrant
There's a lot more going on and I feel like it's becoming
More primed for mainstream and and these kinds of tools and feature sets
Where you can literally go side by side with a tweet deck or a hootsuite and go yep
This is just like that really to me lowers the barrier to entry for adoption and understanding and i'm just more
No, it's pretty genius of good karma to build on the
Is it an auto auto poster like like how hootsuite does automating things
Yeah, that's so jennifer is it automating our posts or is it more of
I I haven't auto i've I have it. It's only been like a couple days
So for me i'm looking at it as an aggregator of content more than anything else
I can create content and post stuff
Can I schedule it? I actually haven't tried to schedule anything. That is a great idea of any for me to test that out
But reg has been asking for he's like, do you know of any of the front ends that have a feature that allow for scheduling?
I think ethan c does too in a recent version before dex
Uh, but peak d has had that for a while
Ethan c has I mean like most of my organic posts are scheduled. So so ethan c you can schedule
Yeah, and peak d for sure most definitely peak d
You can actually create templates in peak d which I've always thought was fascinating
Yeah, peak d's had a lot of interesting features
Think our train is playing into the station and this is the end up. This is the terminus
Thank goodness, we got to talk to biz
All good stuff and you know
This happens so often that the thing that I really needed to learn
I learned at the very last minute of the session
So I will go and look for um, you know how to schedule posts on peak d and ethan c
The decks and waves from ethan c and what else should we say shadows that are new things to try?
YouTube the the three speak shorts. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that's on the mobile on the mobile app
So on peak p when you're doing your post you get down
Instead of pressing the publish button just look to the left and you'll see the schedule button
Well, I want it I just want to draw attention to
Audio has been rocking and rolling the entire time that we've been on the space. Oh, that's true
Sounding good tramp sounded so good. It was not robotic cat. That's what tramp. Let's do it. She was threatening
See, oh I spoke too soon. Now it's happening. You jinxed it
Wow, I think it's something that vinny brought back over from that other space where she was before she appeared
No, that is not vinny alesandra named it and it showed yep
Stop naming things. You got a lot to say. Oh, it's a gin words of power
All right, y'all, okay, it's time to go so we just all we have to do is say good night to Wilma
Thanks for being with us guys good night Wilma