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$HODL x $Gorilla AMA
Recorded: Oct. 1, 2025 Duration: 1:43:31Space Recording
Short Summary
In a recent AMA, HODL and Guerrilla discussed their strategic partnership, highlighting HODL's impressive distribution of over 20,000 BNB to holders and the introduction of Guerrilla as a reward option. The conversation emphasized the importance of community-driven projects in crypto, showcasing both projects' commitment to growth and innovation.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Hey guys, we're going to start in a minute.
Can I just check, Doshi, that you can hear me?
Yeah, I can hear you you can you guys hear me can you give me interaction yeah got you mate all good do other people hear us
can you guys give some reactions yeah mrx usman giving some interactions that's good
brilliant i'm on my mobile this time because last time we had some fun and games didn't we with the
uh with the mic yeah yeah we did small gossip together me and you lj
go ship together me and you lj understand guess what we are talking yeah yeah good okay well i
think um we're going to record this and share this because i know not everyone can make certain time
so let's just get let's just get started well people can join in and then we'll open up at the
end for any questions people have um does that work for you? Are you ready to get going?
Doshi, are you ready to get going? Yeah, I'm ready.
Awesome. Okay, thanks for joining us, everybody. I wanted to, we had this AMA, I think it was a
couple of weeks ago, and we had some technical issues, so we wanted to rerun it.
There's always things going on with the project.
So, and, you know, from our perspective as HODL,
so just to give you guys who've not joined us before, I'm Adam.
I'm the CEO of HODL.
I've been with the project for about four and a half years
and we've paid out over 20,000 BNB.
But we wanted to sort of start giving our holders
more options to claim their rewards.
And the first partner was introduced to us
through El Draboon, which is Gorilla.
And it's a project which shares our values of wanting to build
and it's a CTO.
So it made sense to us as a good place to start.
They're also on the B&B chain like us.
So we've now got the ability to, or you guys as holders,
have the ability to claim your rewards in B&B as HODL and now Guerrilla.
And we're going to start adding more partner tokens soon.
But today is just a chance really for us to sort of learn about Guerrilla, talk about plans going forward and also to talk about some of the stuff we're working on HODL.
So, Doshi, if you're happy, do you want to just give us a bit of a
bit of background about yourself and how you got into Guerrilla and, you know, we'll go from there.
Could you please repeat the question? I couldn't understand clearly. and you know we'll go from there.
Could you please repeat the question?
I couldn't understand clearly.
Yeah, do you want to just give us a bit of a background on yourself and Guerrilla?
Yeah, actually myself being in crypto from 2022
I started playing in crypto from 2022. I started playing crypto with the memes and then I had some experience with
some big projects as a core member and then I started building something different in other In other meme coins in BME chain, my first experience was on the Mubarak.
I was core member of the Mubarak before CZ interaction.
Then we reached 2000 million market cap.
After that, I started building with my own me again.
Personally, I'm a narrative trader, I'm a narrative trader.
I'm a narrative builder.
I can explain myself with that.
And then I saw the gorilla.
Personally, I liked the gorilla a lot
because there was no animal meme on the BMB chain.
You know, every chain has its own clear symbol memes,
its own animal memes,
but I saw there is nothing in the BMB chain.
And also there is no gorilla in the crypto. I saw it like a gap, you know, I want to fill it
with the gorilla. I saw the real potential on the gorilla and then I just jumped in gorilla.
We are listed on the Binance in three days. It was fastest Binance I've listed MemeCoin in the MemeCoin history.
Gorilla was like crazy at this time.
And then we had some problems.
You know, I spoke about it many times in other space,
but just I want to give a small summarize about it.
As I said said I was
core member of Mubarak but we left we was the main people in the Mubarak we
was the people who really pushing Mubarak in the background and after we
leave there was other core members without real connections they came to
Gorilla they wanted to make partnerships we did it but then
they pretended like us and launched another meme coin gorillas crashed big part of the team is left
from the gorilla but i didn't left i stayed building i stayed for building from long term
by the way we made gorillas come back again we We made it reach half price of the all time hike. We rebuilt everything from the start. There is no animal meme coin on the BMB chain.
You know, there is Bonk, Tepe,
there is Doge, there is Floki.
There is many meme coin in the other chains,
but in BMB chain there is no animal meme coin.
And I'm sure one meme coin will rise like crazy,
and Gorilla is biggest claim at the moment in my opinion.
And that's why I will here, we meet with the h HODL at this broadcast thanks to El Caboom.
We started with the HODL together and started doing some partnerships.
Your last update was crazy.
HODL is one of the biggest projects in the BNB chain with the big BNB rewards.
They gave like 20k BNB airdrop.
It is not 20k dollar, it's 20k BNB.
You know guys, it's a really big amount and they are one of the oldest BNB chain projects.
They added us as one of the reward projects on their list.
So when HODL people going to claim their rewards, they can also claim Gorilla as a reward,
like they claim BNB.
And this is how we keep building at the moment.
So this is how can I introduce Gorilla
and myself at the moment.
Yeah, that's awesome.
So it quickly got onto Binance Alpha then?
That happened really fast?
Yeah, it was fastest listing.
Yeah.
Wow, okay.
What do you think?
How did that happen?
What do you think it was that made that happen? How did you manage to achieve that?
As I said, we were one of the most connected B&B chain team together with my partners. And when we all started building like crazy, all B&B chain started buying the Gorilla.
buying the Gorilla. First of all, the narrative was crazy.
And the name was amazing. There was no Gorilla.
It was a great moment. Binance was posting Gorilla pictures.
Binance Inter was giving us an introduction.
Binance Inter gave interaction direct to us and said,
he said, I love Gorillas. And he said that while people
mentioning the Gorilla CTO account and say say do you love gorilla cto he said
yes i love gorilla cto account at the moment many people buying new coins like crazy when any binance
account interaction giving interaction with them and imagine binance inter say directly i love
gorilla he said that directly so it was one of the greatest moments. And volume was like crazy. We had 100 million dollar volume in one beach. You know, many Binance Spotlist projects doesn't have such a volume.
No, that's right.
We were having volume like $100 million on
the DAX without CX listings,
only DAX and then fastest listing happened.
We are listed on the Binance Alpha.
We are also listed on the MXG,
Gate Alpha. Also, sadly,
CoinMarketCap doesn't show our gate alpha listing.
Sadly, they do not edit as a listing, but we are also in the gate alpha.
You can also trade Gorilla in the gate.io.
I just want everyone to know it.
You know, we are also on the LBank at the moment.
Yeah, we have some CX at the moment.
Yeah. Yeah. we have some CX at the moment. Yeah.
Yeah. That's awesome. So why do you think the original dev who launched it? And we see this a
lot, but from your experience and your insight, why did the dev walk away so soon? Because it seemed like a project with lots of potential.
You know, sometimes some skilled developers
having a lot of emotions.
He was emotional guys.
And when we had attack from other projects,
and when other projects got support from some platforms,
I don't want to give a name, you know,
probably you know the platform,
when they are supported them,
while we are the tool builders,
he said, what the fuck is happening here?
We are building, they are supporting the scammers.
And he got pissed and he started selling his back,
but you know, it is happening in the crypto.
Sometimes you are selling the best meme coin of history at the early stage.
You saw this meme coin, his tokens at like 2 million and 3 million.
He sold at these ranks and we are at the moment at the higher price.
He sold literally at the cheapest price, but we made a comeback.
It was a completely sad moment.
You know, I never blame an old developer.
He also keeps supporting us.
He's weekly doing a tweet about Gorilla.
He holds some Gorilla, but he's not directly involved
oh okay so he's still around yeah yeah that's a account but this is i suppose one of the good things about the project is that everybody who's remained in the project is from the community
and is is working hard to take the project forward you know know, so it's a proper CTO.
And I guess that was one of the big reasons that Elja Boom got behind you, was it?
When we met with Elja Boom, he was joined by Grow Someone.
He joined it, he saw what's going on on the Gorilla.
I explained the situation.
I see scammers are pretending like us, but Selby is one of the biggest platforms supporting them at the moment.
Without aware of anything, he's immobile for the fix something else.
But when he saw some players playing dirty, he took it personally. He said there's a movement.
Some people trying to fuck the community. Some people trying to fuck the real builders.
So I'm staying in the Gorilla.
He joined it and he started fighting.
He's also one of the biggest supporters
and one of the most powerful supporters.
He literally changed the game
and they wouldn't die to support scammers again
after LJ was involved in the game.
You know, he changed everything.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, from my perspective, obviously, Hodel works with LG Boom as well,
and he's been brilliant.
And, you know, we actually had a couple of posts that he sent about Hodel get retweeted by CZ.
So, you know, we know how influential he is in the space and particularly
the BNB chain. But I have seen that he's very passionate about Gorilla and the community and
the potential. And I think that's one of the reasons why people should be bullish on Gorilla
is that it has really good support, you know, and it is listed on Binance Alpha.
and it is listed on Binance Alpha.
Can I ask you, what do you think the Binance Alpha listing has done for the project
and is doing for the project at the moment?
You're asking the effect of the Binance Alpha to Gorilla?
Yeah.
Yeah. First of all, Binance is biggest supporter of the crypto.
There is no bigger exchange in the crypto.
First of all, Binance is biggest one.
And Binance has like 300 million users, you know.
And people directly can see Gorilla on the application like other support coins when they click on the alpha sections.
When you join the application there is an alpha section. When you click you see directly alpha
listed meme coins. So it is we can call it like mini support. Yeah we can call Binance Alpha is like Binance Mini support. So Gorilla is literally listed on the Binance Mini support.
Imagine there is 300 million users and all of them open the application one time in day.
Let's say one percentage of these people click at the Alpha.
And let's say these three million users started checking the alpha list.
And let's say one percentage of them saw the gorilla.
It mean 30k VFs for the gorilla.
Daily 30k VFs from the Binance application.
And it mean 1 million VFs from the Binance application and it means 1 million VFs on the
Binance application. So 1 million users seeing Gorilla every month. It is really
key project is alive and first of all when it is on the Binance Alpha it is tradable meme coin.
Many people do not see that but Gorilla has extremely good liquidity.
When you have such a liquidity, people can do their trade easier and safer.
There is no high price impact.
People doing their trades without price impact.
So simply people doing trade like they doing spot meme coin trade.
When there is such a meme coin on the Binance Alpha,
it is actually like the Spot meme coin.
If such a meme coin was only on the DEX,
maybe our job would be extremely difficult,
but Binance Alpha gives it a big opportunity.
When you are joining the top gainers,
millions of people seeing your project, this is extremely huge.
You cannot imagine what will happen there. There is a millionaire investors.
This is not like DEX.
You know, there is also billionaire people.
Imagine one of
the big whales solve your project.
He liked it a lot and he started shilling it.
It is make your project this blue chip.
When you are on the Binance Alpha,
it means you are Alpha.
You can explode in any time.
And when you are starting explode
all people in the world can trade your meme coin all people in the world can trade your meme coin
directly from binance application this has big meaning when gorilla fix the problems when gorilla
have some good news when it joined top gainer aer, a lot of people will trade it easier.
And this is extremely huge.
Many people do not understand that.
They are going to trade something on the DEXs.
They are opening DEX screener.
They are buying random meme coins, but they miss.
The random meme coins are dying in one day.
Yeah, absolutely.
I was reading about this as well, and my understanding is that Binance Alpha is kind
of like the first step in, you know, hopefully one day Gorilla and HODL can list on Binance.
And, you know, it seems to be that sort of the first step is that you get the Binance
Alpha listing.
And then I think futures, Binance futures is the sort of next step
and then the full listing.
So, you know, it used to be, I think, you know, in times gone by,
it would be very difficult to go from, say, effectively a startup project,
a new token to a Binance listing.
But now they have these stages to help grow projects like gorilla so i think it
kind of gives it gives a bit of a bit of a bit of insight into into binance's confidence of in in
in gorilla and it and it's it's long-term potential so yeah and i don't think people
realize as well that when you're on alpha,
you're kind of being, as you said, heavily featured across the Binance estate, their
wallet, their various websites. So yeah, it's incredibly, incredibly bullish. And I think
it's something that everybody needs to fully understand is that achieving a Binance Alpha listing is a brilliant achievement, particularly for a project like yours, which still has a very, very accessible market cap, you know, and good liquidity.
Because that's something that I feel strongly about.
People get carried away with market caps,
but often you look at the market cap,
20, 30 million market cap,
and the liquidity is really, really low.
But with HODL and with Gorilla,
I think it's something like 11, 12% of the ratio
between the liquidity and the market cap.
Not 11, not 12, more than 15%.
Is it? 15, right?
Well, that's pretty.
It's a really big amount.
People do not understand.
And when they open the DEX screener
and check the BSC projects with the same market cap,
they will see other projects has half of Gorilla liquidity.
Yeah, they've seen that.
Gorilla has extremely huge liquidity.
HODL has as well good liquidity
because we are V2
and our liquidity is getting more money every day
and it makes doing the trade easier.
Yeah.
And it helps with stability as well
and I think it's it helps with stability as well and you know it's i think it's
i think that there's been this trend recently where projects have um have kind of misled
consumers in in in presenting these big market caps but having really really low liquidity so
i think anybody who's you know doing their research into a project to invest
into you know don't just look at the market cap look at the liquidity as well um i see i see elger's
joined us hey elger you're on mate yes hello guy um thanks for speaking i'll just say my opinion in the two projects huddle actually huddle is the
best example of uh staying on bear and bull market huddle been almost four years in the industry
they didn't they actually uh participated in giving away more than 24 000000 BNB, not thousand dollars, thousand BNB, so that's millions of dollars
through these four years, and they're still here till today, working hard, being passionate,
working clean, an industry that to work clean is very hard, yet they stay with their own principles
and ethics, and I'm happy to know Adam. Adam adam he's not a young person he's an english
man with wife kids and and grinding this every more every day and he's passionate in what he's
doing so i'm proud to be part of this ecosystem and also gorilla which is in my kind opinion the biggest narrative in web3 it's not based on an
artist it's not based on uh i don't know a celebrity it's based on us and every single
person it's like you know aster aster became big because it's like a community even cc said we want
to see it as a community gorilla is a community it's not based by someone who loves a gorilla or an artist who
drawn a gorilla. It is us. Everyone, we say we ape together. We're stronger together. Everything.
This is our culture. And again, the team is very clean. We're working very hard. And one day,
Hudl and Gorilla, insha'Allah, they will see the moon. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you Thank you
We were just saying before you joined us
That it's a project that you've
Really worked hard to support
Because it sounds like it's gone through
Some challenging times
But I guess that's probably the case
In the vast majority of projects
They have their challenges
That initial kind of pump
But it's definitely a lot of work and support and to have you UL just supporting it and to
have Binance Alpha and the community at Gorilla it's it's I think I think when I was looking
earlier I think it's around about two and a half million market cap with with about 550,000
liquidity so it's for me you know it's in a really good place as we enter October and hopefully some really exciting months ahead.
But it's got a lot of really positive ingredients.
And as you say, you know, Gorilla and this whole concept of stronger together and the sort of ape culture, which is big in crypto, has fantastic potential.
So exciting times ahead.
Okay, well, so we're going to, I think we're going to let, you know, anybody who wants to speak, you know, there's a few people that are requested to speak.
So you can just unmute yourself in a moment and fire away.
We just want to keep it open.
I want to keep the focus on on Gorilla as I said now we you know Gorilla and this was uh something that Elger put towards me you know was was this idea that uh we we identify
projects that have the same values that are here to build, that have a long-term vision, and allow our holders the ability to claim their rewards in these projects.
We think if we're careful and find the right partners, it gives them a good springboard
and gives them good visibility and gives more utility to our holders,
the fact that they can claim rewards in in additional tokens
so yeah I want to keep the focus on Gorilla and I would say that we're going to after this we've
got a few things to announce with HODL we've got some big developments coming down the pipe and
again it all ties in with with wanting to build things that create revenue wanting to build our project and
our ecosystem because you know we want to be here for the next 400 years not just not just four
years so there's a couple of people putting their hands up let's let's move on to a couple of
questions uh guys can you unmute yourselves and ask any questions you have, or can I, do I need to...
GM, GM, Hodu, am I audible?
Yeah, we got you. How are you doing?
I'm fine, I'm good. Thank you for bringing me up here on space.
Shout out to Hodu, shout out to the big man, Elja, always active on the BMB space.
Shout out to Dochi, who spoke really well about Gorilla and understood all what you said.
So my question is, what is the mechanism of your reward?
How do you reward the users?
If I have, for example, $1,000 in Holdwood, how many Gorillas or BNB will I be getting rewards for?
That's just what I just want to know.
That is what I just want to know.
Yeah, so how it works is every time there's a transaction of HODL, whether that's a buy, sell or transfer of HODL, there's a 5% tax.
the HODL contract. And then when there's a sell that meets certain criteria, it triggers a bot,
a sell bot within the contract to convert some of those held tokens that have been collected in tax
and converts them into BNB. And then every seven days, you're able to go and collect your BNB
rewards. The way that works is that if you hold effectively 1% of the circulating supply, you'll be able to claim 1% of the reward pool.
And then we've taken it a step further by saying to people, well, look, you know, you can claim your weekly rewards from HODL in B&B.
Or you can reinvest into HODL and there's a couple of
benefits you get tax-free on on reinvesting in in HODL and you get to claim again a day earlier
and now you know we we've added Gorilla so people can go and collect their B&B rewards but if they
want to they can then select to claim them in Gorilla.
And it will actually take the BNB that's in our reward pool and it will actually put it on Gorilla's chart.
Or if you're reinvesting into HODL, it will put the BNB on the HODL chart.
And that's every seven days.
And so since May 2021, we've paid out 20,540 BNB, I think it is to this point, which is over $20 million worth of BNB.
And it's averaged throughout the bear market. People are getting about 40% APR.
40% APR so for every thousand if you put in a thousand dollars say a year ago you will have
you will have claimed back around about 40% of that thousand dollars four hundred dollars
in HODL or B&B you know or potentially Gorilla obviously Gorilla's recently added so decent apr um and you have those options but obviously the
big thing the big thing is in in in a in a more bullish market you know when we end when we enter
the proper heart of of of the bull run those rewards will just climb you know we had this in
may 21 july um may june july august September, kind of those periods of 2021, we had, I think
our record is that somebody claimed the biggest claim was $120,000. So the potential, you know,
particularly when the market's behind it is vast and people are going to have the option now to
say, well, I want my rewards in BNB.
I want them in HODL.
I want them in a combination of HODL and BNB,
or you know what?
I want to check out some of these projects like Gorilla that we're
partnering with.
So yeah,
really,
really solid,
even in the bear markets,
but you know,
hopefully during the bull run,
we're going to see some spectacular claims.
Yes. Thank you for answering my question.
It's really a solid idea.
Very cool tech here and it's something very interesting actually.
Well done, nice job.
I should also mention as well with HODL,
we found that in the last bull run you know
and i've seen this with reward tokens in general that if you're solely reliant on transactional
taxing that that that can be risky and that you may have that initial pump but when they start
to decline it's difficult for them to recover so one of the things that we have tried to do with
hodl over the last four years and will continue to do is to build our ecosystem and to build revenue streams so we
generated about six hundred thousand dollars of revenue through nfts and staking and a lot most
of that was was able to fund you know project growth and and support the reward pool and we're
just about to launch a game that we've been working on for three years so it will further bring revenue to the project which means that we're not solely reliant on on
the on the taxes because i think that's been the weakness and the reason why projects reward token
projects that have launched historically have failed is because they're solely um relying on
on the taxes.
So we've got a few things up our sleeves.
There's conversations I want to be having with the Guerrilla team where maybe we can look to offer some rewards
through our various games and play to earn, etc.
So we're looking to take things further
than pretty much any other reward token has done
that's solely reliant on their taxes alone.
Well, well, I'm just happy I came up on this space to hear all these amazing things.
So more things are coming on to HODL.
This is actually nice.
This is actually nice.
I really love all your idea and initiatives you are putting in and the work you are doing.
Thank you. Thank success. Thank you.
Guys, if you don't mind, again, Hodel has been in this space over four years.
And on chain, they distributed more than $20 million to people,
yet their market cap is like 3.5 or 4.5 etc it means they
leverage the people's sustainability more than the token price and that's why they managed to
stay for years in this industry imagine four years sitting on this industry it's not easy trust me
i know many people who claim they are founders, blah, blah, blah. They're launching 60 projects every fucking week.
Yes, Elja, it's not easy.
Most projects just come rogue and go.
Exactly.
It's not easy.
It's not easy at all.
During the bear market, and they survived it, and they are still here.
During the bull market, we're expecting much, much, huge things to come.
bull market we're expecting much much huge things to come i wish to be honest bnb chain
would open something like a new division called justice for every project being built on bnb
chain from four years and they are still here they should get like leverage than just new people
because the biggest problem the biggest problem is not entering binance alpha the biggest problem
is not entering binance the biggest problem biggest problem is not entering Binance.
The biggest problem is you stay.
How many meme tokens entered Binance from the BNB chain or from other chains?
That they are sitting today at 20 million market cap.
Imagine you're a project sitting inside the biggest exchange in the world,
and you are still sitting now at 20-30 million market cap.
And guess what?
Some of these projects they are
actually launching projects and using because they are inside binance or they're inside other
exchange they're using the fame of being there and the team are launching other projects and
extracting liquidity from people these people are building hard you have huddle four years this guy every day working his ass off for the people you have gorilla
yes it's an only binance alpha the liquidity pool is huge the liquidity pool of gorilla is the
biggest you uh lp liquidity pool and all meme tokens on i think in every chain
all meme tokens on i think in every chain you will not find any meme token that has as big as
this liquidity liquidity means if i put 10k now if you have a small liquidity the price
will go from 1 million to 2 million but if you have a thick liquidity if you put 10k it will not
even move the chart but that's safe for people for the long
term so you can they can buy on chain without losing a lot of money and when they sell they
can sell also on chain without losing a lot of money i know there are so many tokens coming
every day i know there are tons of opportunities coming every day i know that you can go, maybe get RUG in 50, but one get like 3x, 4x.
But what I always say, diversify your portfolio.
It's okay to go to jump other meme tokens.
It's go to jump to other utility tokens.
But do not over leverage one above the other.
Like for me, I bought Gorilla.
I've never sold any Gorilla.
Some people, they might sell.
But don't go fully out stay accumulate
because the market cap is very low and remember gorilla as a narrative is not related to a person
it's not related to a chain it's not related to a celebrity it is a movement and there is
none gorilla before that's why we have some hate in gorilla and the ex account got suspended because some people like you know
Trying to to just hate on it because they saw
From all the memes that they launched the most successful sustainable was gorilla
Because the other is just narrative based on names
Gorilla is narrative based on everyone in web 3 in every fucking trenches in web 3
So always be sure what you're doing do your own research Every one in web 3 in every fucking trenches in web 3 so
always be sure what you're doing do your own research the restifier portfolio and
Yes, just don't don't fall under people because people
always want to extract and as I said
Everything in crypto is risky
That's why you have to do your own research etc
that's why hodl been there for four years the guy's doxed for me if he wanted to
leave he would have left long time ago rather than having this headache and
building a game and trying left and right by the way he's trying his ass off
adam and you can find his youtube show in my troy show
he got invited to my show you can see him
know him understand where he's coming from and know the person and you will not find this in 99
of the fucking meme tokens even utility nowadays and for gorilla it's inside binance alpha it means
if we manage to grow more and more and more with the community we can go one day, inshallah, to Binance and even to Nasdaq.
But we have to be stronger together.
Inshallah, we get there, we get there.
Because of these tokens are not just here to rug us, they are here to stay.
Allah, it's all what you said.
Inshallah, we are getting there.
Be'iznidla.
I guess for me, though, it's something that I think about a lot you know why don't more projects look to sort of be around for longer you know why do so many of the projects in this space
you know fizzle out so quickly and move on and like you said Elger you know developers they're launching you know god knows
how many contracts each month you know it's something that doesn't make sense to me because
most of them rug or you know people are losing money but this is a this is a technology industry
and technology takes time and you know if you want to build something good it takes time. And, you know, if you want to build something good, it takes time. I think for me, that's one thing that, you know, we want,
certainly with our partners, we want to find is people
that are committed to long-term building.
But I do think that can be a bit of an issue with this space
is a lack of commitment to staying with things, you know,
in the good times and the bad times.
You know, there's not enough projects that are truly building.
Actually, the reason of that is mostly the farmers and the influencers.
How?
You know, many people joined the crypto for making money
fastly. Many people joined here to save their life. But they forget what is the short time
and what is the long time. You know, this is very important point. Before, five years ago making a generational wealth in five years was pretty short time
five year was pretty short time but right now in crypto when you ask to people they won't make
millions of dollars in the one day this is the main problem how people became such a corrupted?
This is the main question.
And as one of the person who is working with the big project as a core member,
I saw the background.
I saw the kitchen.
I know how it happened.
Sadly, when people doing successfully job, as Al-Jabun said,
Sadly, when people doing successful jobs, as Al-Jabum said, they are using their old jobs for taking liquidity from the market.
And they say, we launched this and now we launch that, sell other one and buy new one.
This is how bad apples are working.
These people taking a lot of liquidity from the market at the first and they selling
the dream people think they will do same success again and they are buying their another project
and they actually losing their money this is the first secondly sadly people have a lot of grit
they think if others are making big money they can also make money they
see pnl of other people and they started thinking doing same piano but background is different
many influencers launching their own projects and chilling on the x2 people for dumping their bank
many people think these influencers find the projects on the decks, they find it on
the formium, they find it on the pump fund and they shill it. No, they actually launch their
projects themselves. They are buying 80% of supply and shilling on the people. People pumping their
back, they giving couple of eggs and then they they start dumping their back. They are showing their early spec to people.
They say, yo, guys, look at this.
I made 100 eggs.
You saw that?
I made great money.
Actually, they didn't make such a money.
They just launched their own project and they dumped it.
They never did such a trade.
But people think other people doing amazing trade.
People think there is a lot of
100x projects. No.
Actually, only insiders
making money and dumping on your head.
I just want to say that.
After Gorilla
TensorFlow project
reached more than
10 million market cap.
How many of them stayed
at higher than 10 million market cap?
None of them. All of them dumped 90%. Why? Because insiders are dumped their back and they started
shooting the other project. I remember one of the scammer that attacking the El Caboom on Twitter.
He tried shooting on the El Caboom, but he he is actually scammer that we know he said i will
never leave for only this project and before two days ago he started shooting another project
sadly you know this is the main problem people do not believe in their
own feelings they started believing to other people this is the main problem they see something
on internet and they believe they do not believe
in their experience but i believe in my experience i believe in gorilla why because there is narrative
there is real me gorilla is one of the best narrative on web 3 i see that i i want to build
in the gorilla because i know if i keep building if we became together
if we have unity we can make gorillas bigger no one can us in the gorilla you know there is no
insider no one can dump the airbag there is no lie we are not selling three we are talking about truth
i'm not saying them you will be billionaire if you buy gorilla and hold
i say if we all work together and build together gorilla has extremely huge potential
this is what make people buying new projects every day they see something on the internet
they think it is true they want to make same but it is actually not true
want to make same but it is actually not true they actually see some trick and they think
yeah some people can make millions of dollars with the trades they started buying something
and losing day by day but actually many influencers many developers doing money with the new launch
this is what make people corrupted actually doing such a space is very important because people must
be aware of that. You know, when you are not talking with the people, they feel depressed
on their phone. They see P&L of other people and they think they are only poor people in
the world. You know, actually 90% of the crypto is full of poor people.
10% is full of full scammers.
There is maybe 1% true builders and real traders.
Yeah, there is 1% like real holders in the crypto.
I can give one of the examples is SPX.
I was one of the SPX holders. I was one of the SPX
supporters. I supported SPX for a long time. They just keep it working. Hold, work, hold, work,
hold, work. Just that. For the years. They didn't vote anything. They didn't shit anything. They
didn't talk about anything else because they know end
of the gamble end of the gamble is full of full loss they know that but sadly current people
do not see that they see pnl of others and rotating their money from one to others
this is current problem of the market yeah Yeah. I couldn't agree more.
And I want to ask you about your plans for the future of Guerrilla.
But just before that, we have, is it Pharmacists?
Do you want to just unmute and ask your question?
Because I know you've been putting your hand up, mate.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, I'm Jem Jem, everyone.
I'm Jem to the host.
I'm Jem to the Alja Boom jim the algebra okay um yeah i just want
to say some few things um well mostly um for your projects i mean um it takes it takes only um five
minutes um to create another x accounts so um if you actually um someone that had bad intentions to rock the project, we have done that far back many years ago.
But being here is actually shows a result of consistency and transparency.
So congratulations on that.
And I also want to speak on the Gorilla the um the gorilla movements now um yeah gorilla is actually
um a cto token so what cto means is that community has taken over now community taking over it means
that there is no div um there is nobody holding higher percentage so if you're actually i'm scared
of what gorilla is building gorilla is going to go far.
Yes, the first space that I attended with El Javon was, I think, three months ago, I think, with Sam.
So, Gorilla, don't wait for CZ to post Gorilla.
Don't wait for CZ to post Gorilla.
Today, CZ will make a post about Gorilla.
Gorilla will be so big for you to enter.
So, Gor gorilla is open and when when he made that tweet and when elijah made a post we attended a space
i had i bought gorilla i bought gorilla in my wallet i forgot about that wallet why because
it's actually a future investment i have never sold any of my allocation so gorilla is actually
going far gorilla is just starting.
So, if you feel that Gorilla is going to rock,
nobody is holding a higher percentage of Gorilla.
Gorilla is for everyone.
Gorilla is like a past.
Gorilla is like what is holding the community together.
So, please, make your own financial research.
Gorilla is going to go far.
And one thing you guys should observe today i'm so happy
i am so happy about today's piece when a project is transparent when a project is clear it leads to
mass adoption imagine today gorilla has been adopted as one of the reward put on holds um
reward system what does that shows us it shows us that there's a momentum there's actually mass adoption
of the project millions of people are holding gorillas most of them are not posted on the
timeline gorilla is not built on hype don't wait for millions of tweets go and do your research
if you can invest even if you say 10 dollar gorilla please do 20 dollars on gorilla please do
hold gorilla gorilla is gonna go far so thank much, guys, for giving me the mic.
I really appreciate coming to your space.
Mashallah to everyone.
Gorilla is going to go far.
Thank you. I love how bullish you are.
That's awesome.
And your energy. Thank you so much.
You mentioned a good point, actually, though,
pharmacists, in terms of the supply.
Doshi, can you kind of help us understand that a bit better?
Because it sounds like that the original developer launched the project and obviously he will
have held the majority of the available supply, but he's effectively dumped that and it's still held strong you know after that
can you just kind of walk us through that a little bit and explain it because I think that's
one of the for me one of the powerful things about the project is that there isn't any individual or
group of individuals holding huge amounts of supply but can you just sort of
explain kind of what happened there and and and you know tell people kind of what the situation
is with with supply control on the gorilla at the moment yeah actually there is zero supply control
on the gorilla at the moment gorilla isilla is completely organic at the moment.
Because as I said, Gorilla is started like crazy, pumped like crazy.
Gorilla also was not huge bunted meme coins.
It was on the decks at 100k when it started.
Yeah, people saw the gorilla at 100k when it started. Yeah, people sold the Gorilla at 100k.
Also, original developer was not holding huge amount of supply.
And Gorilla pumped, we had some problems.
It is dumped. He also sold his bag at the deep.
He didn't sold everything at the top.
And then everything became much more fair distributed.
And then in day by day, Gorilla supply control completely destroyed.
And right now Gorilla is completely organic.
Everyone holding their own supply which is they bought from the market.
Yeah, there is zero supply control literally at the moment.
Everything is organic.
Yeah, actually, I can only say that even if someone bought a lot of supply,
I got such a DM, so I want to talk about it.
And sometimes people come to my DM, they told me they hold a lot of supply.
If I don't invite them in the whale chat, etc., they will dump their back.
And you know, small whales cannot affect the gorilla.
For example, if someone sell 100k at the moment, probably it won't affect the chart too much.
You know, it means like 4% of supply.
Even if a whale holding 4% or 5% of supply,
it cannot affect the gorilla too much
because our liquidity pool is extremely strong.
If we had like 5% ratio on the LP,
small whales could affect us.
But right now, there is no small LP.
LP is pretty weak and even big whales with supply like 5 or 6% cannot affect us.
They can just give small dump in short term, but the community can buy it easily.
So, yeah, we don't have such a problem.
Gorilla is pretty organic and promising future there is
no danger about the old developer or new big whales or anything else yeah yeah and i think
that's very bullish you know and i think people need to understand that in the vast majority of
projects you do have a lot of risk because normally the people that launch the
project will be holding an absolute absolutely insane amount of the supply and if if they just
wanted to they can effectively rug it which is unfortunately what we see in the majority of
projects but the fact that the people holding gorilla now are, they've bought their tokens, you know, fair and square.
That, for me, is very bullish.
So I wanted to make sure people were aware of that, that the team isn't holding huge, you know, well, it sounds like almost no additional supply.
So it's very organic.
You're not going to see the team dumping tokens.
That for me is one of the very attractive aspects of Gorilla.
As I said, even if a big whale dumps his bag or something like 5% or 6%,
it wouldn't be a big problem for Gorilla.
Yeah, 5% is a good amount for the normal projects which is newly launched, but
at the moment with the strong liquidity, even strong wheels cannot destroy the Gorilla.
This is what makes Gorilla extremely bullish because any whales can come and buy good bags
without price impact.
Also they can feel safe because liquidity is strong, no one can kill it.
You know, even if our liquidity is fat, it means Gorilla is a CU table for the extremely
huge whales. They will love it.
Nice. I love that.
Thank you. Okay.
I see FPS.
You've been putting your hand up a while. Do you want to unmute yourself
and ask any questions, mate?
Good evening, everyone.
My voice is clear?
Yeah. Loud and clear. I would like to talk about the individuals, everyone. My voice is clear? Yeah. Yeah, loud and clear.
Nice, nice, nice.
I would like to talk about the individuals, people, first.
Then I will talk about Gorilla.
People nowadays, it's not like 2021.
If we ask Adam, how long did token to create the token huddle?
It was, I believe it was a pain because you need to do the smart contract, get this guy, this guy know this, that guy know that.
Now, me, I have zero information about how to create token, smart contract, how it works.
I can, by one click, create a new token.
Before, I can't.
Now anyone can create a token.
Any topic they will do.
CZ said this, a new token.
CZ, Elon Musk bought this picture, poof, a new token. CZ, Elon Musk bought this picture, poof, a new token.
The problem, not with the token creators, not with the scammers.
Scammers you will see outside in real life. Anyone can scam you.
The problem with the consumers, the one who buy, the one who support,
the one who pretend that or maybe he think he will get rich.
Ah, maybe this one, ah, maybe that one.
He's weak inside.
He doesn't know how to control himself.
That's why we have a lot of scammers. As long as there's customers,
there will be the one who sells.
So the problem with the individuals,
with the customers.
Second point,
when we talk about memes,
what is Mimi?
Why am I buying this token?
This token has a picture cut this token
has a elephant for example should I buy this should I buy that the Mimi the idea
of Mimi coins should be like something fun something has a history something has
any anything related in real life maybe you can say anything but
nowadays you will see a token with that was with a sentence with one word
token called for token called three token called so I me as an individual I'm educated 12 years in
schools went to university so this guy will scam me when I when I'm 30 how dumb Community, belonging, supportive, trying to build, trying to share the idea of the meme.
This is the idea of a meme, not something situational.
Something just happened yesterday and there is a new token and that's it.
It will die tomorrow. This is something situational. This just happened yesterday and there is a new token and that's it. It will die tomorrow.
This is something situational.
This is not a meme.
Meme is something that you feel you belong to.
Something you feel it will, it has a continuity.
It will live today and tomorrow.
You trust the community.
You trust the holders and above this above this trust you will continue building you you will not look back and see holders and you
will see who sold this everybody looking at each other no, no. You calm. You feel safe.
Because it's a community.
It's a trust.
It's a decentralization.
It's not a coffee shop you every day go to and drink a new coffee.
No, no, no.
This is the mis... People mislead each other.
And unfortunately, people believe them.
And this is the problem how to fix it I don't know maybe remove bump.fun or those kind of
one click one token yeah no I get that I think the problem is though is that there's always going to
be those things available because they're they're being used you know um so i think education is the
key uh i was adam thank you no thank you for saying that because i was saying you want to
see this 100 correct education. Education is the key.
It's not about eliminating tools so we don't make people,
we just see the people how they are.
Now is the time to see how the people are.
When I came to BNB chain,
there was like a dog of the CZ one
and then there were like three created
and they were all created by scammers
because anyone was waiting for CZ to tweet.
He was literally just waiting for any shit just to launch and to handle
the supply, but then one of them
they were good, and then
the CTO team, they told me join
blah blah blah, I joined, and guess what
the same CTO team
after I joined, even though I didn't
buy, but very late
one of the dogs, then they start
telling me, okay, how about this project and then one of the dogs then they start telling me okay
How about this project how and then one of them told me to come to gorilla and it was like after the Chinese guy dumped
So I saw the native really very good
So I went buying and this motherfucker was using me to pump his bag and he dumped and then second
They telling me no no, I don't think gorilla gonna be a big narrative. How about this new project come with me join?
I'm like dude dude, fuck you.
Do you think I'm retarded?
You want to fucking go find every fucking bag telling me it's a pure CTO.
You buy at a very early stage
and then you make me buy and dump on me.
So it's not about the platforms.
It's about the people.
They are motherfuckers.
I know that when we've spoken and sort of reading between the lines
and some of the comments you've said, you know, to me
and within groups that we're both in, you feel, do you often look,
when you're looking at projects to support, you know,
what are the kind of things that you look for?
Because I know you've mentioned you feel a team being doxxed is important.
You know, what kind of stuff do you think people can look for for? Because I know you've mentioned you feel a team being doxxed is important. What kind
of stuff do you think people can look for, or do you look for, to help you avoid these
traps, these pump and dumps, Elger?
I mean, to be honest, even being doxxed is a good thing. But now in some utility projects,
there are some groups, they are doxxed, they're making, but now in some utility projects, there are some group,
they are doxxed, they're making stories, and they're scamming, and then after three weeks,
they're making a new project, and they are doxxing themselves again, but they're switching the roles,
like changing the name. The face is real, because they even go to live.
So people see them live in their videos, right?
So one time his name is Michael, second time is the same people keep rotating
of course it minimized the the the the problem but in my kind opinion the main issue or the main
thing you need to look at is to have clean circle once you have a clean circle you will minimize
the chance of your risk you cannot eliminate eliminate it. It's impossible to eliminate in crypto. Impossible.
But you will minimize it.
So rather than having 10 out of 10,
at least maybe every 10,
one or two will be scam and eight will be fine.
Just by the circle of your surrounding.
And you know, Adam, you know some of my circle at least.
Because I know you from a long time.
And you know who I avoided. I saw them doing shady stuff and I avoided i went in the last and they came later they want to do something new i said
off so i think the circle again so those the relationships then are really important and
the people that you support 100 and yeah like for me i know you took over this project for many years and you're working your ass off
Definitely someday you want to make another project a reward
Let's say HODL or whatsoever, definitely I'm gonna support you because now I know who you are
I appreciate that
I mean I think I've got a long time with HODL, but I'll keep that in mind.
LG is pushing you to go and launch the new project.
LG knows that I'm here, I'm going to be busy, busy for a lot of years with HODL.
But I think with anything, you know, and I've had this, the thing is for me, you know, I've started businesses away from crypto.
Like my first company was 10 years of of quite frankly pain and suffering
you know to start it I came out of university and started it with I think I had five thousand
pounds and it took me 12 years I think it was to build that business so I'm not
I am familiar with with with how hard and how long it takes to build something out of more or less nothing.
So I'm not afraid of that.
And I think that's something that a lot of people in crypto don't realize or don't want to do is actually invest a lot of time now for something special in the future.
for for something you know special in the future um you know my experience was my second business
you know that was six years of of challenge and and pain and you know struggle but we ended up
selling that to uh Michelin you know for a nice sum of money so things that are great do take time
you can't you can't you, particularly when it comes to technology,
you can't just launch something and expect it to have a great ecosystem
or build amazing things overnight.
It takes time.
And that's really, for me, the kind of exciting part
is actually creating something brilliant.
And it does take time so on on that note what what
what are you what are you what are you planning what are you thinking about in terms of obviously
we we hopefully um are going to be entering the ball run soon and october's always traditionally
an exciting month but doshi what kind of what what's in your mind what's in your vision for the future of
Gorilla? First of all as I said Gorilla is a great meme coin and what we should do is make a strong
foundation for the Gorilla. My first aim is to create strong foundation.
I wanted to make it by changing the logo.
We changed our logo and right now you can see our logo on the picture of our core member Sam.
Our new logo was great and we are trying to update our logo on the Binance Alpha.
Yeah, our logo is very important.
We are starting to rebrand everything.
Our X account is suspended.
As you know, I'm working on it to take it back.
And after that, my plan is doing more Twitter space
on the Gorilla because I see people need to talk with each other.
We need that.
We can do more space in the future as a community and
we do some donation events for the kids for the childs for the animals and we can keep doing that
because you know what make meme coins are valuable is their meaning if you are just a simple meme
queen yeah maybe you will have some investors and something else, but doing good things is also very, make people motivated.
And I focus on that. We did some donation on the Jiggle Academy.
We did some donation to Nigeria, throw to Gorilla Games launch.
He's our friends. We sent like 80 backpack to children in the nigeria and we plan keep doing more activity
and also you know we are on a lot of cx and we have connection with them we can do some events with this cx for example lbank we have good connection with them
and their people are pretty nice to us they are pretty kind we are talking with them we can do
events also we have some supporters on twitter you know we can make some other works with them. We are working with that.
Actually,
summarizes,
we will keep working every day.
This is what I can say.
Because, you know, Gorilla is meme coin.
In the meme coins,
you cannot give raw ad map to people.
When you check the website of Pepe,
you can see it say,
this is just a meme coin.
We are not promising anything.
We don't give any hope.
We are not selling dreams.
And you know, Pepe went to extremely great point because they were honest.
I want to be honest.
I'm not here to sell dreams to people.
Symbol of gorillas is retails.
If retails.
If retails unite and work together, they can defeat the market giants.
This is our narrative.
And if we keep building, as our friends said, actually the problem is the customers.
If they keep buying something, sellers will sell something for sure.
Yeah, actually we are thinking about the same point.
In my opinion, yeah, there is a lot of scammers.
This is a huge problem, but there is also another problem.
Customers are buying this, so we will be more united.
We will keep working more.
We must do our work every day because as I said, Gorilla is symbol of retailers.
He said very good things.
In memes, you want meaning.
You want to see something from the real life.
You know, this is very important.
And he was pretty right.
When you look at the Gorilla, you see the retailers.
When you look at the Gorilla, you see the hard work.
When you see hundreds of people working for the gorilla every day, it makes you motivated.
When you see there is no supply control, no one can kill it, it makes you feel safe.
And we have all of this in the gorilla.
And personally, I cannot say we are going to make CX these things.
I cannot say we are going to have for example huge
partnership with that with this because it will be like the roadmap but I can say
we will keep working every day. You know I wake up every day and I check the
gorilla chat. I check gorilla chat I see if someone asks something I reply
them. I'm actually people calling me cto leader but i call
myself is non-paid employee of the gorilla no one is paying me i just wake up here every day i check
the dms i talk with the people and i try make them motivated all we need to do is that wake up do
tweet go to coin market cap make your bullish post go to binance square make
your bullish post go to twitter make your bullish post with the bmb hashtag and cash tag every day
do it do it and try convince more people do not try convince them for the buy the gorilla only
just make them buy 10 20 just make them holder of the gorilla just make them active in the gorilla all in. Just make them buy $10, $20.
Just make them holder of the gorilla. Just make them active in the gorilla.
If our numbers grow, if all of us working in coordination on the CoinMarketCap, on the Twitter, on the Binance Square,
it is actually biggest things in crypto you know i told you binance is pretty binance alpha is pretty big things for the
gorilla because there's 300 millions of users we are already on the top exchange of the world
we are already there exchanges are not for the pump. It is for the visibility. If you make more noise in the market, more people will see the gorilla.
Someone said before Minos ago, he said, do not wait support of the CZ.
He's right.
Do not wait support of the CZ.
Keep building with your own way.
And if CZ coming and supporting you, it is amazing.
It is amazing together. And imagine you are on the binance alpha all world all world can buy your meme coin
with one click all all world can buy your meme coin with one click this
extremely huge for example I see a lot of people from Africa in here.
Maybe they know the penny wallet from the CMC DAO, from the Thermopy.
I talked with him and thanks to him, he updated our logo.
They can trade the gorilla on the penny wallet, for example.
We are doing a lot of updates on the local wealth.
We did a lot of whitelist submission for the gorilla in a lot of updates on the local wells we did a lot of whitelist
submission for the gorilla in a lot of swap for example there is lebang swap when you click the
lebang swap you can do see directly gorilla you don't need code paste contract you don't need
right to gorilla it is directly appear on the main page on the lebang swap for example
It is directly appear on the main page,
on the LibangSwap, for example.
So what we do is make Gorilla more visible and keep working.
This is what I can say as a roadmap of the Gorilla.
I cannot give shit lies,
I cannot give fake promises,
I can give my heart,
I can put my hard work,
I can work every day,
and we can do it every day together this is what i can say
thank you love that i mean that was another big reason why i i felt that you know it would be
great to work with you guys because i know you've got so much passion about this project and you know i also feel that one of the x one of the one of the
attractive things about gorilla as a brand is that a bit like with hodl it's it's it's something
that people use in crypto you know people talk about aping you know there's a lot of memes um in telegram and on on x of of of gorillas i've seen a lot of
exchanges use um images of gorillas so i think it it is definitely something that has a huge
amount of potential you know all year round in the bear market in a bull run you know that kind
of identity and i think it taps into the the the mentality of a lot of people in this space,
you know, the sort of mentality of being a gorilla, being, you know,
aping in and standing by your convictions.
So I think as a brand, it has additional value and weight than a lot of memes.
additional value and weight than a lot of memes so yeah I think that's great
and I applaud your energy for the project. Pharmacists, do you want to
unmute yourself and fire away? Yeah, thank you i'm sorry to talk um so much on your space okay um is that
for the gorilla is that going for the gorilla movement um i just want to also add some few
things to what doja said gorilla has a lot of um adopters gorilla every gorilla holder is a well
don't think that you are maybe your little portion
makes you not aware there's nobody holding gorilla more than an expected value what do i mean by this
every morning go to your gorilla chat check what is happening you you hardly see any manipulated
green candles gorilla is moving organically gorilla is one of the biggest animal in the forest and it
doesn't you cannot control green light in the forest so gorilla is actually a movement that
we all need to step in do your own research i keep on saying is do your own research
yes well gorilla is here to stay and gorilla will grow um doji um also want to also made an uh an appeal that um gorilla one
thing about gorilla is that we have a lot of gorillas adopters you might not even know them
across all the continents so i feel that maybe i should connect with you also link up with other
gorillas um supporters let's make gorilla great i write write on Binance Alpha. I write on Binance Square.
I post about gorilla on my Binance Square.
So please, do your own research.
As I said, do your own research.
There are a lot of platforms that you can post.
Go to your Sodex platform, post.
Make reasonable content.
No promises.
Gorilla does not promise anything.
No promises.
I'm not telling you gorilla will make you rich but do your own research learn how to invest learn
how to hold see see some day is a learn how to hold a lot of us are scared to be
to hold a lot of us get to be rocked gorilla does not care about being rocked
if gorilla wanted to rock good Iilla would have rocked many years ago.
Gorilla has survived.
We all have been watching some Gorilla's movies.
Have you ever seen a gorilla dying?
It's always very hard.
So that should tell you that Gorilla has a momentum.
Gorilla is a power.
So make reasonable posts.
No promising posts.
Don't promise anybody anything about Gorilla.
Gorilla is growing. It's growing organically.
So please guys, go and do your own research. Take a little investment of your portfolio.
Invest on your Gorilla if you feel convinced.
If you feel convinced, don't buy Gorilla because Eligible is talking about Gorilla.
Don't buy Gorilla because Doji is talking about Gorilla.
Don't wait for Citi to ask you to go and buy gorilla you can beat your own cc you can beat the own cc of the gorilla era gorilla is a cto token communism is taking it over so please guys let's take this
movement we all are gonna benefit from the gorilla movement thank you i'm hodos i'm gonna drop the
i'm going to leave the space i wanted to give a big shout. Thank you, Hodus. I'm going to leave this place.
I wanted to give a big shout out to you guys
before I just drop down.
Thank you for having me here.
I'm doing great to show Hodus a follow.
Turn on your notifications.
It's actually doing well.
Thank you very much, guys.
Thank you, Doshi.
Hoping to see your connect back.
Thank you very much, guys.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Thank you so much for your opinion, Pharmacists.
Yeah, what a guy. I love that.
I'm feeling pumped up for Guerrilla now after hearing Pharmacists and you guys.
But no, I think that's, you're right, it's about the movement.
I like one of, you have this strap line, don't you?
Was it stronger together, stronger or stronger together? And I think that's really important in crypto. You know,
community is, is king. So yeah, I think it's great that people all around the world are
working together to push it forward. I think that's what that's going to be the difference
maker is that unity and, you know, gorillas themselves are, you know, they're tribal animals. And I think that's the
key really, is to work together as a tribe, stronger together, and keep pushing that narrative
forward. So no, thank you very much, pharmacist. Doshi, is there anything you want to add? Is there any, I can say, Usman,
do you want to unmute yourself and bar anything away?
Thank you. Sorry, I had to step down to observe my acid prayer. So according to pharmacies,
from today, me too, I'm taking it up upon myself. Whenever I have the opportunity to
shield Gorilla, to onboard new people to Gorilla, I will be definitely doing so.
Because the commitment of Doshi and the BNB chain entirely, like, I've taken this upon myself to do so.
So I want to be part of a building community, an active community contributor to Gorilla as from today on. Apart from me holding my bags and keep buying
whenever I have the opportunity to
I'll be an active contributor
to the ecosystem.
Inshallah.
Awesome. Thank you.
Guys, I want to say something
if you don't mind.
The most important thing thing honestly is to have more and more people aping in
and what dog said is important let people buy five dollar two dollar three dollar
like something that they really don't care if even if it came to this level like you know
let them be part of this community let us grow in number regardless if it's hotel or
Gorilla and maybe a few clean people they working they deserve support and for you a small amount or
Big or medium whatever your risk appetite
It's not really a big deal
Just try to support something, you know, not just, not everything making money.
Sometimes you want to have a legacy plus money.
Because today, if I just wanted to make money, I wouldn't just go an ape and gorilla when this fucking guy dumped everything.
And I know there is no supply control and blah, blah, blah.
But I saw the narrative.
I saw the community.
I said, fuck it.
Let me be in. Hodel, the narrative, I saw the community. I said, fuck it, let me be in.
Hodl, the guy is working all these years.
He could just have fucking lifted many times
and go create 60 projects after every tweet from Elon Musk.
Right?
But he decided to continue.
We need to support these people.
Give them small part of your effort, support, anything.
If it's small, with these people means a lot. The the other people they don't care. They care about you joining their
His listener and
He always join he come to me Elijah. I've seen this opportunity. Oh shit
This guy made the main in this project 3x 10x. Oh, I missed it
I missed it and then second day he
joined something with them and he get rugged and this is all i lost in this one lg i'm like dude
because you keep chasing everything and he's not young he's like 50 something bro and you keep
chasing everything and he's like you know regretting everything dude keep if you're gonna regret
regret everything in life but if you're gonna keep doing that you're just to regret, you'll regret everything in life. But if you're going to keep doing that, you're just going to be negative
and you're going to be falling under every bait coming to you.
So stay focused.
Stay with some fun, some legacy.
Make it both.
Exactly.
And we've obviously seen the very famous tweet from CZ,
if you can't hold, you won't be rich.
I think that's after spending four and a half years full time in crypto.
You know, I have seen so many people chase and it very rarely works out well.
I think what what drives that, though, and what drives that behavior is that people see stories of people making 1000x or whatever, and it looks great.
But the amount of people that are actually doing that is so low.
And often the people that claim they've made those kind of games, particularly influencers who are launching their own tokens or supporting launches, it's often not the case.
influencers who are launching their own tokens or supporting launches, you know, it's often not the case.
So I think holding is really important and it becomes a lot easier to hold something if, say, with HODL you get the rewards
or with Guerrilla you can see that there's a team turning up every day working hard because they believe in the long-term future of a project.
because they believe in the long-term future of a project.
You know, holding is, for me, the key strategy in crypto
if you really want to make the biggest gains.
So, and, you know, I just want to add as well,
like I mentioned it earlier,
but Elger is so bullish on Gorilla
and he's working so hard.
And is, for me, you know know and the reason why hodl approached
elder is is is the number one uh influencer cole whatever you want to call it on the bmb chain so
do your own research but ask yourself you know why have has Gorilla got this kind of support? How has it got listed on Binance Alpha?
Because that's incredibly bullish.
And it just shows the potential of the project.
Is there anybody else?
I noticed a couple of people, Harry Turner and I think it's Ghost.
Have you guys got a question?
Because I noticed you requested to speak.
If not, does anybody else want to come up and ask any questions yeah um so um i want to give the shout out and thank you for
the opportunity to speak um thank you for hosting this um and all the guys from gorilla um i've been with HODL for a couple of years, just a little after their launch, so for three
years now I've been holding HODL and it's been fantastic.
We've gone through a lot of ups and downs but it's been resilient and they've been doing
so well.
So HODL has kind of like an ecosystem uh it just is beyond just buying a token and holding
they have like the p2e um they have um um like the gem fighter nfc they have the hollow hands nfc and
a lot of um things that are just inclusive in the ecosystem to enable people from to end not just by um holding a loan or holding
the token and just waiting for itself to shift and then you can you know sell and get some profit so
my question really is to the gorilla team that apart from just buying the tokens do you guys have
like an ecosystem similar to that of hodl where um holders can actually get something here and there
apart from their holding the token that's my question
doshi did you catch that it's just asking about um whether you have and or whether you have or whether you're intending to build in the future anything around the token
like the old question he's asking something like roadmap right
i didn't understand the questions clearly, sorry.
He was asking, are you planning to, in the future, build anything around and in addition to the token?
And that doesn't necessarily have to be products.
I mean, something like the utility, right?
Yeah, yeah, i guess so or i mean uh harry is do you want to is is do you have any
specific things that you're referring to or is it just generally building around the token yeah
like i'm um no nothing specific because every token is different like i gave the example of
hodo like um hodo i can just buy the know, fold and benefit from the progress of HODL.
But HODL also has like the P2E where I can play games and I can earn HODL.
They have like the HODL on hand NFTs, they have Staking where I can stick my HODL on hand NFTs,
you know, and get some more HODL. They have the Gamefighter games and the Gamefighter NFTs too.
So they have like a lot of products inside of the HODL. It's beyond just a token now.
It started as a meme but HODO was able to go beyond that
and be kind of like an ecosystem to fill the BNB pool.
So I know the concept is different from Gorilla,
but I'm asking because I don't just want to buy a token and wait and then sell.
I would like to get something going,
even if I'm not interested in selling tokens, you know what i mean yeah yeah i got point of the hurry right now uh sadly our token style is different than hodl
you know when you have zero tax and burnet l, you have literally no control on the gorilla.
Yeah, it means I'm like the founder who can make foundation on the gorilla something like a product.
You know, I don't have such a power on the project because LP is not under my control.
I don't have any tax income.
And I'm actually one of the community members.
Just I have more responsibility because I take it. And as a gorilla community, we are
made some plans about, yes, we thought what we can do for the gorilla as a product. But
after a time, we decided that moving as a meme coin, like just a meme
coin. Because you know, if we started making any product, something like, how can I say,
for example, Bonk made the Bonk fund and they are pushing the Bonk fund. If we make something
like this, we have to spend a lot of time on something like the BonFan. And when you
are CTO, when you are a community project with zero tax, zero supply control, and we are without
control on the liquidity, you know, it is so hard because people want to have income from this job.
They want something like salary, they want a profit, something like this.
And, you know, it's like a company system.
We are not company.
We are not founder team.
We are not developer team.
We are the community.
And we need to move like community.
You know, if you are a lion, you must eat the meat.
But if you are sheep, you eat the other things.
And we are the gorillas, we eat the banana.
You know, you must accept what you are and act like this.
You need to do what you need.
If we launch any product at the moment, it will give a lot of responsibility to us as a community.
And we need someone who can handle it every day.
And it means people will ask salary.
And this is normal, actually.
I see that is normal because imagine a guy spending his 12 hours for the nothing.
If he say it is not fair, I can understand him.
If he want to leave, I can understand him. And if I do something like this and people stop working on this, community will see him that, hey, Doji, why this stopped?
If I say, yo, people do not want to work on this anymore, they will say, oh, is the gorilla is
dying? Yeah, there is such a dangerous thing if we launch any product at the moment. But yes, if we launch an NFT with a meaningful way, maybe it would be good.
I also think something like this, if you open a Multisig wallet,
and after we open Multisig wallet, if community makes donations with tokens,
or with USDC, anything else with the BNB. Maybe we can launch the NFTs and all NFT income will go into our multisig wallet.
If we have a bucket in the multisig wallet,
after that we can think about launching a product.
After that we can try build something utility in Gorilla.
But right now it is extremely dangerous for us because if we
going to do it, it will give a lot of responsibility and you know we don't
have much budget at the moment. I'm a little bit realistic guy as I said I don't
like selling the dream and this is the real part. But as a meme coin Gorilla is
amazing itself and I don't want to broke the good nature of the Gorilla is amazing itself. I don't want to break good nature of the Gorilla
by launching any product at the moment.
This is the answer of your questions.
If you didn't satisfy it,
please let me know what you wonder.
And I will now explain.
Oh, yeah, I got you all. thank you very much. I appreciate you honestly. Thank you.
Yeah, I think as well that, you know, the guys at Guerrilla, you know, I see them every day working.
working um and they had they they have a very good handle on um on on leveraging ai and building
very good uh materials and focusing on you know reaching new audiences and and getting the name
out there um and i think you know as as as somebody that's in a project where we are
building a lot you know i do think you have to make that decision whether you're going to be a
project that builds products and utility or you're going to be a product that focuses on the token
and and making noise i don't think you know just knocking out a product for the sake of it because
it sounds good is is is is smart i think you either go all in on being a project that builds
products and utility because it's so resource heavy and it is it is so um it takes up so much
time and focus um so i think yeah you, you either do or you don't.
And I think the guys at Gorilla are doing a good job with particularly using things like AI to create some awesome content and very eye-catching videos and imagery rather than half-heartedly just putting out a product for the sake of it um so i think you know
you in a way hodl is is as a utility project and as a project that is you know going down the other
side where we just build build build we we are working with gorilla and we are adding some some
utility you know the fact that you can now claim
Gorilla as part of holding HODL and I'm sure you know just while we've been on this call I've
thought of a couple of other things that we may be able to do in the future so I just want to put
it out there as as somebody that's building utility project as somebody that's that's spent
four years building I do think you you either you
either 100 commit to building or you 100 commit to being a meme and focusing on on brand awareness
marketing producing strong messaging and and and building relationships with people like elga to
get your and and bmb chain etc binance Alpha to get your message out there.
And I think it's good that you guys aren't distracted
by just putting out a single product for the sake of it.
You're sort of 100% committed to pushing and building the brand.
Is there anybody else that wants to ask I know is it ghost
I'm not quite sure how to pronounce your username
but did you have a question
or does anybody else want to step up and ask a question
noble
noble
good morning
good morning
how are you doing
how are you doing did are you sorry how are you doing
did you have a question mate no no no okay no worries yes
it will definitely pump to pump massively I've got a bag. Short and sweet. I love it.
You're welcome.
Tudor, I don't know if you can hear me, Tudor Crypt.
I can see you in the audience.
How are you doing, if you can hear me?
I'm good.
No, sorry, Matt.
Sorry, Ghost.
I was talking to Tudor. Tud tudor crypt i can see you on the call
i'll invite i'll invite you up to see if you want to come on stage okay
go on ghost you you go you go me yeah you go you go okay no I'll tell you that I'm also a moderator. I can't see you in your community
If you need a moderator, I can also help
Sorry, say that again. I'm what was that?
A moderator, I'm a moderator. If you need the help, I can help as a moderator
I'm not sure which one that is doshi do you know that he's saying
ah moderator okay okay yeah nice moves i'm sure you can dm doshi about that and i'm sure he'll love to uh have a chat with you about that on dm oh god damn
yeah okay mate okay dm me let's talk
obviously if you're going to be a moderator you know of hodl or or uh of of um of gorilla you
need to hold a big bag i've got the bag i've got it okay okay okay elger is there anything you want to add to this i i i kind of
feel i want to give you a chance to wrap things up really because i like i say i know how passionate
and bullish and i respect i really genuinely and i mean this from the bottom of my heart, I respect how committed you are because not a lot of people like you are, quite frankly.
They want to just hop between projects.
So is there anything you want to add?
We'll probably draw this to a close.
I just want to say it's okay to follow the hype.
It's okay to follow launches.
It's okay to do whatever, but don't follow people.
Don't follow me.
Don't follow Adam.
Don't follow dogs.
Follow your brain.
You have to read what people are telling you.
You have to see their track record.
It doesn't mean no one is perfect.
I'm not perfect. I made mistakes. But big difference between some people who makes mistakes and they
know what they are doing, so it's a crime, or people just make mistakes and they don't know it
was a mistake, but they're doing it with a good intention. How can you measure that by the amount
of mistakes happening? If you are following someone and he's doing it every month once,
then he knows that he's farming you.
Right?
That's why you have to always use your brain.
Exactly.
And that's why you have to see projects that you are feeling something.
Keep some back with it.
Support it.
Learn from it.
Because if this went successful, you will also have a fame for you.
You will feel that you actually participated in something.
So it's always like that, regardless for huddle, dogs,
maybe other clean people as well, should be also fine.
Thank you. well should be also fine thank you thank you and i think um a word that i've seen you use you know
in some of our groups in the past is is intention and i think you know to try and uh get a feel for
the intention of people in the space or project owners or influences is very important you know
really what is their intention?
And, you know, if people are constantly launching projects
or if people are constantly sharing rug pulls,
then obviously their intentions aren't really something, you know,
that you want to be a part of.
So, yeah, consistency and getting to know people
so you can get behind the mask you can get behind
their usernames and particularly if they're not doxed and understand you know what is their
intention are there are they are they constantly sharing shit projects that that rug or are they
you know here for the long term to to do the right thing i think that that that for me is is massive
that the the the intention of the individuals behind
the project and the team. Okay guys, well look, I'm going to draw it there. Doshi, just to give
you a chance, is there anything you want to add? Thank you for coming by the way and really looking
forward to working with you.
Obviously, everybody in the HODL community, you now have the option and the ability to pick up some Gorilla.
And you heard from Elger, you know, diversification is key.
We're working hard to try and identify projects that are here for the long term.
And that's what we've done with Gorilla.
So if you're holding HODL and you're claiming your rewards, some bnb in your rewards having some more hodl and having a look at gorilla is is a good thing so with that doshi is there anything you want to add before we end
the call i want to say big thanks to you for the arranging this space and making this ask me anything event i hope we will do more ask me
anything even with the hodl team because energy of the space was great thank you so much for the
everyone who came and listened to us i wish best for everyone. Keep working hard for the Gorilla and keep holding your
HODL. Thank you so much.
Thank you. Thank you. And yeah, I totally agree. Let's do more of this. You know, with
HODL, when we had our initial launch, we used to do a lot of voice chats in the last ball run and the relationships
that get forged on when you actually speak to a human being are way stronger than just on telegram
chats and typing and x so yeah let's hang on to that thought we're going to do more of these spaces
we're going to talk about more of the things that we're trying to do to build um real projects with good intention and let's come
together as as a group of people you know investors influencers uh people passionate about the space
who are wanting to see the space succeed you know because as much as we're all here to make money for ourselves and our families,
this space will only be successful if we can come together.
So thanks for everyone joining the call and we'll hopefully do one of these again soon.
Thanks, guys.
Thank you. seeing you guys.
