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Hello, hello, my friends. Yeah, so you got all our speakers here. Welcome to this Twitter space. Other Twitter spaces I always tend to in the energy of Karen's
so much about the time and kind of hush into things. And as today we're talking about regeneration and healing, I would like to start differently. I'd like to just take a moment for us to connect to our
breathing and just feel comfortable. If you will, just close your eyes for a second and take deep breaths in and out and the invitation is when you breathe in
think about all the contributions, all the things that Earth is providing you, all the energy, the food, the air, the people around you, all the creatures, the
the nature itself, the plants, the ocean, the sea, everything that you are given by Earth, just breathe that in.
And when you breathe out, think about all the things that you are given to Earth, your energy, your love, your compassion, your bodily fluids,
the cells that you drop that becomes the food for other species. And just let's do it like a couple of times, different in.
Thank you. Let's grant ourselves. Thanks so much for being here, buddy. So yeah, let's start our conversation. Here is Flavius speaking. Here in Common Ground, we are all in one communication.
and we host every Thursday we host a chat and today I'm super super glad to be talking about your generation in the area and having these also disamazing speakers with me to have
have a chat and talk about how blockchain and web free can support us and foster regeneration. So yeah, welcome. Thanks so much for being here to this conversation. And yeah, I would like to invite
Each and every one of you for for round of instructions, so if you could just say a little about yourselves what you're working on, I always love to hear the background like how you got into this, this worry how you got connected to this topic of
regeneration and Ritha. And so yeah let's get started and firstly I'd like to invite Matthew which he so so nicely except to be our core host today so I'll leave to you to hear from you Matthew.
Are you there? Can you hear me? Well, can you speak?
"Can I hear you, is you muted?" "Oh yeah, believe me, can't speak." So yeah, I'll pass it on to Sarah.
Yes, I can't hear you. Thank you very much for having me this morning. So my name is Sarah Baxendal. I'm currently the director of ecosystem for region network, which is a carbon accounting focused blockchain.
in the cost-mossy ecosystem that supports credit production and environmental regeneration. I am a person who came to this work through about 15 years of climate impact activism and farming and
and ecology restoration work. So a lot of my relationship to regeneration comes from being a land steward myself, having led land steward and land development projects for a decade, and really just having a very deep
relationship with nature and ecosystems and feeling very called to do what I can, whether it's with technology or not, in order to serve the regeneration of ecosystem function and ecosystems and biodiversity across our planet.
That's amazing. Thanks so much for for joining us and being here. I know that you have led to contribute to this conversation looking forward to you. Lacing more about your background as environmentalist, how this transition
to have three Mark St. Howe. It affects you and people around you. Yeah, just thanks so much. Matthew, can you speak now? Now I can speak, yes. That's Twitter was rugged. Twitter was rugged me. Sorry about that.
So yeah, go ahead and introduce us out. All right. Yeah, I first became aware of pollution when I studied super fun sites at Arizona State University in like 1991 or '92 and so I joined the environmental movement
at that time and towards the late 1990s having traveled a little bit around the world and seeing some different things. My family become a little bit more financially secure. I decided I wanted to help the world as much as I could. So I pretty much have been full-time last 22 years.
I'm just trying to do what I could to raise awareness. So I've been around activism for 30 years and I've learned some of the things that work and don't work and communication is very key. And I've also learned that literally it's going to be about 1% of us that are leading the way.
And, you know, local change can happen quicker and faster and, you know, I got into permaculture a long time ago and support that. Ed's here. He's a big regenerative farmer. Inder regenerative farming. Obviously, love the oceans all that type. Pretty been pretty much a general.
researcher and looking at all the challenges and then the solutions. And, you know, I joined the Re-5 movement on Twitter in mid-February. And so I've enjoyed connecting with a lot of people. And I really love what I'm hearing from IIC Manlays, the young
younger people leaving the way in Web 3 and it's exciting and so I'm just I'm happy to be here and you know just gonna connect with as many people as we can. I've got a big project I've been working on. I'm really trying and I know you know like creative directories of the best ReFi
as well as not for profits and even for profit because for me we've got to go to the circular economy, lower pollution, big curve, our forests and plant trees and the best ways and stuff like that. So I'm just really excited about a lot of things that I've heard going on in the Web 3 and it's actually exploding. It's hard to keep up with it. So that's why
I'm working with a big network of people that are communicators and researchers and scientists and stuff and solutions type people to communicate to the more average person in ways that make sense to them about why we're doing what we're doing and that you can actually make money and do good at the same time.
Yeah, let's talk about more about that, like how the freaking spot is into regenerating and also having financial incentives tied to it. We have next, so I would love to hear from Contessa. Welcome. Thanks so much for being here.
Thank you so much for inviting me into this space. Super excited to be here and to have this conversations with individuals and companies and organizations that are in this regenerative space. I am Kat. I'm a newbie.
to crypto to the blockchain, to the ReFive movement, been in it for, you know, a little less than a year. And I, my question is, how does this impact me? How does this impact my community
has this impact people that look like me. And how can I get this this this this this this re-five movement, this regenerative moment to actually mean something to underserved communities to urban community
because we don't have access to land or space or water. And so it's really important that I am impacting my own community here in my backyard. And so one of the things that I'm working on is how do we use crypto web 3.
to provide for basic needs for people who need it the most. Like food, like shelter. How do we create regenerative communities in spaces where we may not have a lot of resources? And that's what I'm working on.
Yeah, that's that's the the preposition so glad that you're that you're here bringing all these questions and then crazy because I really Yeah, we'd love to dig deeper into the wisdom of our our speakers here and
Yeah, it's such a friendly space that we have now. I know Diego is here from Aguifur, Ristadal, Welcome Diego, also Adam, Dominique, Sarri, a lot of friends here. If you want to jump in and participate,
I'd love to hear from you as well. There's a lot of knowledge here in this space. Let's hear from Magenta. Welcome to Magenta for being here. Could please introduce yourself.
Thank you, Fabia. It's nice to meet all of you. Let's see. I work mostly with a community called Bloom Network, but also with DRG, which is a developer collective working mostly on developing tooling.
Yeah, the stuff I do with Bloom is, you know, dialoguing with community organizers from places all over the world about what their gaps are with funding their work. Well, not just funding it, but like, you know, helping it be more effective, helping more people find it.
So across the areas of restorative justice and agri-college and food sovereignty and community health is kind of like a holistic picture. And so what brought me to web3 is finding like across the board all of that activity is horribly underfunded and
And at the same time, it's like the highest leverage point to making large scale, like local community involved change happen much faster than governments are able to, and much more equitably than corporations have any understanding of how to do. And so Web 3 is
is the financial infrastructure that's, you know, it's set up to be decentralized and collaborative the way those groups work, whereas they have a really hard time accessing centralized institutional capital from, you know, nonprofit or banking or startup. It's like, they really need Web 3, so that's why I'm here.
Yeah, that's super, super amazing. So I'd love for us to kind of dive deeper into use cases of Web-free. As Contessa mentioned, like how for my community, as I'm trying to build a community garden, I'm trying to do some regenerative stuff, but I don't have the means to do it.
maybe have to have the knowledge and to have a free to do it. How can we sell and explain, but explain Web Free to those people, the environmentalists, people that are really trying to create a positive and meaningful change in their communities.
So how could you do it, how could you explain it and bring in some music cases so we can be easy for them to understand how practical actions they could take and do to support it and really benefit from blockchain and web free community. That's the smoke by the way you get.
who wants to jump in and bring some use cases.
I think this is kind of where a lot of our problems start is how do we do this in a meaningful way. And what I mean by that is that there's a lot of people in my
community who don't trust blockchain technology because of what they see in here in the news that's was going on in these communities. And so when you have a community with very little resources, how do we instill that trust
that we're going to take the resources that you have and you can trust us to use this in a meaningful way that it will come back to you without it being stolen without someone stealing your wallet, without people running away with your funds.
And I only have so much. And so when we're talking about I can buy food or I can buy crypto, you know what the answer is going to be. And so how do we ensure this trust when it comes to using blockchain technology?
And I don't know answers. Yeah, I mean, I've been in blockchain pretty much full time for the last five years now. And yeah, we do obviously have some issues just because of, you know, FTX or the crash with Sam and stuff like that.
And there are whales, there is manipulation and there's hacks and all that stuff. One thing that I'm focused on is that there are ways that people without any money can actually earn crypto. You can earn crypto in a lot of different ways. And I've heard some young regen web three years saying, hey, we're going to tokenize
just about everything. So you can actually plan a tree and get crypto. You can actually pick up plastic and get a crypto. And that's just going to keep expanding. There's so many different ways. I mean, you can literally watch videos and get crypto. And so I've thought about ways to incentivize people who don't
I don't have much money. I come from an IT family back in the 80s. I understand how important security is and stuff like that. I've thought about doing my own blockchain since January of 2018, but I was waiting because of regulations and security.
So yeah, it is important. Education is very, very important. And so working with educators and communicators and scientists and experts in their fields. And we've got the experts. I mean, Ed's one of the experts down below love to have them come up and speak as well.
He can provide a lot and he's got some great news about regenerative farming and what's happening. I'm from Iowa, so I understand farming quite a bit and I understand the challenges because I just listen to Joe Rogan show and they were talking about one of our richest
people on the planet buying a bunch of land and doing more of the monocropping type stuff. For me, we've got to go regenerative farming and it's definitely not going to be easy and it's definitely not going to be guaranteed, but I guarantee if we don't do a lot this decade exponentially, it's not going to be
fun for most people in the next 10-15 years and there's already too many people struggling. So for me, I don't focus on the 21,500 plus blockchains out there. I focus more on the low energy ones, the RE-FI ones and the ones that are really focused on the solutions and stuff.
And so that's what I'm going to be doing is talking to people and educating them about the best of the best, the ones that are actually supporting more social justice, lower inclusion and solutions and helping to onboard people and to have them earn crypto in a lot of different ways.
Nassada, I would love to hear also from your perspective and to work in regenerate work on the topic.
Yeah, I think we look at, you know, environmental restoration, you know, through definitely the lines that have been discussed, but a lot of the ways in which our protocol operates are really holding in the perspective of land is
in the relationship to the humans that live on it all across the globe. And these are different people with different cultures and different technical abilities and different capacities for governance and different languages. And that it's really important
to ensure that when we're talking about ecological regeneration that we are starting that conversation by understanding the needs of the land stewards. So there's a lot of tools that we build to try to make the participation of the land steward in
and being paid for their ecological impact simpler and faster and easier. But for me, the most important power of WebTree will not just be tools that bring things to market and not
Just, you know, banking the unbanks and making the technical aspects easier and easier as technology evolves. But using the blockchain governance mechanism, which in the world of region network, we are our own protocol. We have our own community of governance.
And making sure that when we're defining ecological impact standards, when we're defining social impact standards for a particular place or project, that the communities that are implementing that project and who own those spaces day in and day out,
They are not only just a part of that governance decision-making process around how a project will be implemented on their land, but that they own that governance. They lead that governance, that they have the technical capacity to participate as the governors of their community land.
essentially. And so within the world of region network there's a number of different organizations, one of which is called Region Foundation. And what they were tasked with in our white paper was to take one third of the original 100 million region tokens that are governance. You
and to hold them essentially in a trust to build a program called Community Supported Endowment. So what they're doing is they're finding communities across the globe, so farmer organizations with, you know, 10,000 farmers in India and
University testing grounds in the United States and all of these different types of community organizations and indigenous communities and they're slowly but surely going to know these communities with the intention of endowing them a permanent chunk of region tokens that have
to be held in perpetuity in order to bring everyone who is a land steward and a scientist and someone who is affected by that environmental impact or that climate science to be a part of our whole network's governance mechanism and to ensure that when we make decisions as a whole
community about what we build and what we do and what we serve that essentially a third of that vote is going to be long-term at minimum these communities of practice on the ground. So to me patterning for governance but also holding a real sense of
of logic. If someone doesn't have a bank account getting them set up with a Kepler wallet or a Metamask is like a world of challenge. If someone isn't already in some sort of community governance decision making for their community garden, are they going to understand on chain proposals? There's a lot
of gaps here that we can't make assumptions about. But I do dream of a world where we are taking capital and we're taking decision making power and we're distributing that out to the communities that manage land all across the globe because they are empowered by
that economic shift, but they're also empowered as decision makers at that table. And to me, with this intersection of Web 3, if we don't do that well, we're just, you know, carbon trading platform, and that's frankly boring, and that's interesting to me. So maybe I'll pause there, because I do think it's just really important to
think about how communities can be empowered through Web 3 because of the tooling and the processing and the culture in a way that supports a lot of existing community decision making processes that we often have under the surface that could come out into the light and be a part of a bigger community decision making environment.
Thank you so much for bringing it up, like the importance of really giving the power and the governance back to the people that are actually
doing to work in regenerating and building the communities. And in fact, it's amazing and I just thought of maybe, Magenta, you want to add to that and talk about like, balloon and what you're doing.
Oh, sure. Yeah, one thing we've found. So we're sort of like a cyber physical social network just to explain that context. There's like local hubs around the world. Most of them are actually urban. Some of them are rural.
They're kind of like decentralized, almost like decentralized eco villages slash civic participation networks. But one thing we're finding is a lot of these folks have really solid in-person governance practices and really tight relationships like they're having dinner with each other sometimes once a week or something.
You know, like they're not going to go on chain to make a decision. So one of the things we found as we were getting closer to actually implementing Dow Tech is as far as the local blooms go, it's turning out it's going to be more effective to have them use a multi-signature wallet to make
decisions about where to allocate capital that they do have access to and have aggregated through grants and through, like Bloom essentially has like a mechanism to distribute the profits from the cooperative into the local Bloom Hobbes into people doing regenerative actions. So like instead of Facebook
making all the money from ads and stuff, the money from Bloom goes to the people on the ground. And yeah, so having the multi-sig wallet for them and maybe snapshot and that's a tool for, and actually
snapshot like things are being developed on multiple blockchains now. But it's basically like a polling tool, but it allows people who are holding the token to make decisions based on their token holdings or if they hold an NFT. There's like, I think over 120 different voting
So you have all these settings for who has more voting weight. Why? So that stuff gets into where the tech is actually really helpful. But in many cases, if they have a strong IRL governance process, just make that decision in person over dinner or have a fun in-person experience.
where you can talk to each other and build consensus around what are the right moves here. And then the people who are Web 3 informed then can allocate those funds on chain and/or convert them to Fiat Capital and distribute them locally. So it's almost like this bridge between physical
structures and digital ones where you rely on the people who are willing to interface and have access to interfacing with a tech but you don't necessarily require everyone to have that on board. Yeah it's super interesting as well I can
This point of technology, how can we include the way it's kind of soft and really serves and not in a way that we are imposed. And yeah, you need to use everything, you need to have a wallet, you need to do all the stuff on chain and release. And yeah, from the perspective, what to do in, how can we support you?
The main question, how can web free support communities, regeneration, regenerators, environmentalists and people that are actually bringing about the change that you want to see and restoring all ecosystem. So we have mentioned already tokenizing and the
power of using blockchain and cryptocurrencies to finance people for the actions, the regenerative actions that we're doing. And Matthew, you mentioned picking up plastic and trash and then just remember and invite invited, is I, a friend leader token here to
the space. Yeah, he just laughed, but it is an approach that is an example of what we do talking about. Like they reward people in Nigeria for their later token as they pick up later and trash and they have funded a lot of people through this work. So this is an example of things you can do.
And Sarah mentioned about the governance, how can we spread and have a shared treasury to really strengthen different communities and people around the world and have them as the key governors of what they do and to do.
decision making and it's so glad that it's spreading this concept of easing up and understanding what they do next and how they are already doing things so we can insert blockchain technology as a way only to make their life easier. I wonder if I'm wondering if I have other questions
and black to know more about what you're doing. I know you had a phrase in your Twitter page about like the importance of educating people with kind of key elements on how they can use the web of free and blockchain. Yeah, I'm just wondering like the work that you do in the challenges and if you have like more questions.
I don't have more questions, but I am looking for solutions about how we can create a more sustainable way that goes beyond giving.
Because a lot of times when we talk about using crypto in order to provide for basic needs is more of a charity type thing. Give crypto and then with the crypto we're able to go and purchase these basic needs like
food and shelter and things like that. But I'm looking for a more sustainable, more regenerative solution. So we're looking at maybe becoming an own validator node. We're looking at working with organizations like Spiral and I was
of anybody has any solutions for me so we can look into those type of things that we can do. So it's almost an automated, automatic solution rather than reaching out and asking people to give to help out these communities.
Can you share more about what your community use cases are? What's actually happening in these communities and what are you actually looking at? Which actions would you like to incentivize or what projects are you specifically trying to fund in this context? Absolutely. So here in self-rawly that we have
have issues with food insecurity. There are food deserts food apartheid here. And we're looking for a way to provide food for individuals who are hungry starving who don't have enough money to buy for foods in their families in their
households. And so instead of just asking people to give so that our communities can have food, we're looking for something more sustainable, something a little more automatic, whether it's a crypto drip or something like that so we can be able to provide food for needy families.
There's a, I'm going to pop the link in the, as a reply to this space in a second here, but there's a local one called Long Beach Fresh. They're in Long Beach, California. And they've been, they have some templates up on our site, but basically they've been teaching people well and
collectively like peer capacity building to do teach people to form local food businesses. And so basically creating economic sovereignty. And the crypto can be used to facilitate that.
But basically, so you're unplugging from reliance on or lack of access to other spaces. And so, you know, how to create a local farm or a community garden or a crop swap and sharing practices with each other. And like a couple of
people mentioned, you know, initially rewarding people with crypto for doing the action. I think Favia also has set up a regional tokenomics system. There's a group called Colt Tivo as well. And they're all based around like creating local economies around food sovereignty specifically, even if it's
It's like you get permission from the city, there's some empty lot, you get permission to garden on that. And there's lots of ways to get access to lengths and make food happen in different spaces. So I'll stop there, I'll pop that link in the chat. Thank you so much, I appreciate that.
Yeah, I can add to that from my experience here in Lodiverzi, we support our regenerative farmers and our agro-college producers through our cryptocurrency, but we also have like feet money to do that, but the idea is that we kind of double
finance them and we give some pay it and provide some actually we kind of buy in advance the products, the production and as in a CSA model and through that like for the finance incentives and the food that they produce based on
that they distribute in our platform through our social currency. So people here in Rio, Brazil, like in favelas, and other communities, member communities that don't have, as I mentioned before, they don't really have money, it's money to buy food. They can buy food using agriculture.
ecology, food, using our social currency. So this is kind of what we do in, but we do have some initial cash and feed to do that, which is kind of a privilege to recognize that. And other types of model, it's maybe harder for instance if you want to start fresh and you don't have like
the money to buy accruements and other stuff, it could be kind of more challenging. But I do know that some, there's people out there kind of incentivizing, there's some grants and that sends us, we put to do this kind of regenerative planting efforts. So I don't know if Matthew or Sarah wants you to add to that.
Well, yeah, you know, for me, I've been in this industry for so long that I'm going to continue to work with beyond money. I mean, you know, we have like a hundred trillion dollar a year industry worldwide and all our markets in crypto right now is, you know, trillion
$10 plus with the supporting industries and stuff. So I really love to see the best of the Web 3 continue to take off this decade. And I believe that we will be working with Trilins of the dollars in Web 3 and regenerative finance over the years here.
And so yeah, working with people in rural areas is something I'm very big on internationally. And so yeah, you know, being able to give them be out if that's what they need or even like a you know work for food type thing, you know, if people have some spare time they can
and do a cleanup and get food or plant trees and get food, stuff like that. So there's so much creativity that I've seen in Web 3. So yeah, I know some people just want to work with crypto and Web 3, but I really feel that we have to work with the best, not for profits and the best corporate.
operations around the world and work with the local communities and give them what they need that works for them versus trying to say, "You've got to have a crypto wallet in order for us to reward you." So that's some things that I'll be working with with people as well.
Nice to know that the ad just join us. Welcome. I'd have any questions or comment to this conversation. Sure, I thought I'd share some thoughts. Yes, as Matt, Matthew mentioned, I've been working with the regenerative ag movement for many decades.
since we realized in the late 60s and early 70s that as farmers, we were being told to do practices that weren't producing food anymore. We had disconnected our plants and animals from the soil. We were just treating them with chemicals.
And so we saw the decline in our food. We saw in the nutrient density inspectorum of it, the taste of it, the degradation of our farmlands, our erosion of our top soils. And so, um,
regenerative agriculture comes from really a long soil health movement created by farmers and farmers working together farmers are individuals we don't we're not part of
companies that have offices and factories all over the world or something like global food sort of is thought of. We have our own little piece of land, our own ecosystem, we have ecosystem around us and
And we're very collaborative. We never thought of ourselves as being competitive only in a very friendly way. So we worked together for many years to develop what is now known as regenerative ag. We didn't even we're real, we've never wanted to name it. We didn't want to call
it all natural in the 60s or 70s we didn't want to call it sustainable. Even law is one of the first to really use that term but it's been changed or regenerative because that really misses out on the complexity of ecosystems and food and growing food and nutrition and how it's gotten
to people and decentralization of the food system. But we made incredible progress and you don't hear about it in the news, but in the United States where I mostly work, low, I connect with people over the world. It's just a booming thing. People don't realize this
happening, especially with farmers at scale, because as much as I was a very small farmer doing intense quality and looking at epigenetics, which is local adaptability of the plants and animals that we raise, I realized that
to really get change it needs to be with a lot of the medium and larger scale farmers around the world. Because once they change, then the control of the system by the interests that want to keep it under control and not give farmers a voice that would that would then
help it would convince, you know, that instead of USDA or power saying, you know, well, the majority of farmers are doing this, you know, Bill Gates style of biotech and everything. But no, this is a farmer movement and this is a people's movement.
decentralization movement. And so I've just been connecting with the whole crypto community because you're into regenerative finance, you're into regenerative regeneration in general, you're into ecosystems and nature. And so that's the connection we need.
for ever going to create decentralization of the food system, we're going to need infrastructure. So going to local banks to say, we need to place the store food, we need to place to do some minimal processing. The present system isn't into that. They're supporting
the centralization of food. And of course, the community is the farther away that centralization is away from you, the harder it is for people to get food that are hungry. And so the more localized it is, the more that you can work together with your local system. And we now
have technology of communication so we can connect all these little networks of local systems because at the root of regenerative agriculture is we've sort of made a foundation of we look at the five principles of soil health that are universal around the world nature works
basically the same all over the world. So that's our universal language. But then we added what we call context. And that's the local context. That's the culture, that's your weather, that's the economic system. And so it really fits with, I think,
everything that in the crypto or refi the good move good part of the movement is really trying to do. And so that's why I try to bridge these two movements together because I think that's really where it needs to happen. It needs to work with, you know,
Basically, individuals, as much as we organize into organizations, we have to be a little careful not to get that organization because what we found is that organizations grow and grow and grow. They're less flexible. They're less individual representation.
They become power structures and so we want to avoid that. That's what farmers have learned over the years. That's why you don't find like where are all these regenerative farmers coming from? You know, where's the big organization? We don't really have a big organization. We just organize
is individuals and we're there. Anybody who's dedicated will do that. People that aren't dedicated, maybe we'll just get involved with a giant organization and then you're really doing anything. So I'll leave it at that, but I thought I'd share what we're doing in the regenerative agriculture from farmers perspective movement. Thank you.
Thank you so much for joining and sharing your wisdom. Thank you so much, Sunpartan, to hear. And as you were speaking, I was thinking so many things. I mentioned about the kind of the health of the soil that the soil is living thing. And just remind
me that I put Gaia, regeneration and title and then later with CG team, I realized not everybody knows what Gaia means and it totally relates to what you were saying about inter-connectiveness of our
planet and understanding that guy is actually a system, a living system of different ecosystem and microbeodes and all this is that are connected and and and interacting to form this planet that we're living in. So we are
are deeply depredent of each other and part of this whole. So yeah, I was just thinking about that in Epicur to explain more guy and means to people that are not used to determine. It's a guy theory from James
love lock and the margoless. So yeah, thanks for bringing this up. And I really, when I thought about this space, I really wanted to invite people that are not into Reef I move many at. So they can see and understand how they could benefit
from being part of the movement. So there were a lot of really good insights already. So for us to finalize, I would love to hear from each of you some some key tips like what you would just say for someone that is completely new to the space and wanting to be part of
of it, like what would be the main steps, lower it, would say, yeah, that's the thing you should do first, and how would you guide them into diving deep into the Red Five movement, and yeah, what would be the tips for people new to the space?
Well, one thing I would say is you can do a search in the search Twitter do hashtag ReFi and then take a look at the different things that pop up there. The regenerate network is doing great. Definitely follow them. But yeah, then just, you know,
See whatever your interest is because there is there's a lot of refi things out there and there's a lot of spaces out there. And so, you know, connect with the communities that work, you know, in your area or that you're passionate about. Because there's a lot of things a lot of things happen right now.
One of the things that I tell people when they ask me, "How did you get into REFI? How can I get into REFI?" Understand that there's a lot of information out there and a lot of it can be overwhelming and it can be extremely
technical and you may feel like that you don't belong in this space. There are sometimes where I'm like, is this really where I'm supposed to be? Because sometimes I feel like I'm having a different conversation than everyone else is having in this space. And I want
to encourage you if you feel like you don't belong that you do. If you feel like that people are talking about things and you seem to be talking about something different, keep talking, keep showing up, keep asking questions.
My inbox is always open. And if I don't know the answer to something, I can reach out and start asking questions for you. But know that you are needed in this space and that there is space for you here.
So, very full. Thank you.
Yeah, to add to that, I think that it's blockchain can be bewildering a lot of steps going on and all very technical. So I recommend that when people are coming into this space, they carry the same lens that they do locally.
Community garden participation is local. You're making local decisions. There are tools to receive benefits for the outcomes of your local actions. And it's really important to ask the question, what is my use case, like one of my really building in the real world and then
what technology can help to serve that or fund that or make that more public or transparent. And it's at those intersections where there are some amazing tools that really exist uniquely in Web 3 for funding for public decision making that I really do think are designed to help the
these movements and it will just take a long time for farmers to be more comfortable with more technology in general. And there's a lot of baseline education that I think we as a Web 3 community in REFI need to do to non-web 3 communities in the way that we speak, the
to use the words that we use. We need to really be willing to always start back at the beginning with someone who is interested in learning more to make sure that this environment is as accessible as possible because I think our personal perspectives as people in tech, you know, we always assume that
But I think a lot of people assume that most people have a certain technical baseline. We assume people can use computers and phones. But that's not the case all over the world. And I think we forget that a lot. And we need to kind of come down on the clouds to be able to be a service that can be used to practice more directly.
I guess the concluding thing I have to share is the example of low interest loans in this space. Like the first time I heard you could put up some of your
Well, crypto collateral, I think there's other ways to do it too and have like far under a 1% interest rate for alone to purchase affordable community housing or a piece of land or start a business or some upgrade
needed for your business. That's one of the biggest use cases of this infrastructure because there are no middlemen siphoning value out of that exchange. It's kind of like automated. So because it's often challenging to finance projects that regenerate GAIA and ourselves because of the
economic system is based on extracting value and life out of things. There's a bunch of tools in ReFi that are well suited to help us create financial and ownership and governance
flow is an autonomy that circulates resources back within the community instead of it being pulled out. So there's a lot of finance tool sets there for regenerating GAIA and low interest loans is one really awesome one.
Yeah, thanks so much for magenta for bringing this up. Do you have like some recommendations on how people could could find those projects could, yes, begin understanding how to get those just funds.
Well, the only one I've used so far is Maker Dows. I think they have some different vaults they're called. One is I think called Oasis. And you can put, say,
Bitcoin or I think it's a VM they have different vaults into it and then withdraw the stablecoin to pay project contributors or you know some piece of infrastructure you need to get your business to the next level and then once
revenue comes in, you can pay it back. And then during that time, anyway, during that time you don't like, like if the market goes down or something, I forget, if it goes up, like you're not
spending your crypto if you're like hold lane. So that's like if you're a crypto native already. There's an Ethereum foundation researcher. I think his name is Marcus. I have to go grab it and I'll try to add it to this thread as well. But he has a solution for low income low interest low
applied to low-income housing. He needs these from Guatemala, so it was like designed with that solution in mind. So I'll take him in this thread. It's not fully up and running yet, but it's coming online. Those are the only ones I'm aware of. I'm sure there are more out there.
Amazing. Thank you so much for the resources. I'm super glad for this conversation. I think a lot of knowledge was shared and I think also a lot of hope. It's really for me to really amazing to see how many people
are doing and into regeneration are taking care of ourselves and up planet and making sure that we have a future for the upcoming generation. So yeah, thank you so much for being here. I would like to open up a little
for people in the audience if you have any questions or any comments please just request to speak and yeah I have also our speakers thank you so much for Diana's if you have some final thoughts yeah just share here please
This has been extremely informative. I appreciate all of the resources to thoughts, to conversations. I am always trying to be in spaces like this because every time I show up, I learn something new.
I'm going to be going down a rabbit hole for the rest of this week, looking up all the resources and the names and the systems and the tools to see what our next steps are going to be. So I appreciate everyone in this space. Thank you.
Thank you very much for having me and you know kudos to everyone who's doing real world on the ground your generation work. That's what this is about. You know technology only can serve really good work if it's well designed for this use case. But at the end of the day it comes down to the answer.
a constant individual decision making. It comes down to caring. And that starts with all of us individually. So thank you all for participating here today and caring about this topic and working in your own local communities to create the change that you can see that is immediately around you and within your life every day.
Yeah, so I think that's it. Thank you so much Matthew Sarah Ed contest some agenda and everybody listen to us. I hope that somehow this conversation is particles into other actions and education and Find its way. Oops, if we get a someone we best interest me.
Hi, Colin. Do you have a question for us?
We were just finalizing this pace. So yeah, if you cannot speak up, we're just yeah, just finalizing. Thank you so much, everybody. Yeah, have a great day and keep regenerating and keep the good and amazing work that you're doing. Thank you so much.
Thank you, Fabia. Thank you, everybody. Yep, thanks, everybody.