Welcome in ladies and gentlemen to another coin. It's chat happy Tuesday. I'm the host of coin is accusement coming to you long
from our Brooklyn studios in New York City, diving into another exciting topic here as we have been before, but it's worth a double-dip, web3 social how it's changing the world and the leading innovators building out a new future for us all when it comes to owning not just
our own accounts on these platforms, but the powers that we unlock, the network effects that we all play our part in helping these platforms become destinations for us to be building and excited to have with us back on the show, the co-founder of CyberConnect Wilson Way here with us on Coinnage Wilson. Thanks again for taking the time, man. Excited to have you back on.
Thank you so much for having me again here. And thank you. Like hello everyone. Yeah, I think there's no better project to really have on twice and you are the first one I think we had on twice for the topic of what
have three social because cyber connect is one of the largest one of the leaders in the space when it comes to building out you know decentralized opportunities for people to build on top of them. And I want to get into all of this but we'll start in case people missed our last chat.
about exactly why so many smart people like yourself are building in the arena of Web 3 social. We just start with what cyber connect is and what it is enabling when it comes to what we say, what we mean when we say Web 3 social.
Oh, sure. So Cypac Connect, it's a decentralized social network. And we enable developers to actually create applications that enable users to own their own content, their
also graph their digital identity status and even monetizing channels. So that's in short what we do. I think so far cyber connect we like we come up with the idea like two years ago and
And I think we were one of the very first projects who come up with the idea of decentralized social graph. And now we have more than 50 application building with us. In total, I think we have almost 100 cyber profiles.
300,000 of multi-active users on chain application wise our own flagship application is reaching more than 1 million active users at the moment that's for the three talk to. So yeah, so we're glad that
we just announced a coinless public sale. Yeah, we will take up to the next step of decentralization. Yeah, I want to get into what that does because I think a lot of the times when we covered Web 3 social, which if you haven't watched, you know, our episodes on YouTube right now, but the idea of aligning interest
with users and the platforms themselves. And we can get into that token draw because I think it's huge in inlining interest with people who are using these products built on cyber connect using the cyber token. And what that means when you're really trying to, I guess, you know, reward users for bringing all the information, all the data and the
And of course, in our case, all the content to the platforms that are being built on CyberConnect. You mentioned Link 3. That seems to be one of the largest. We ourselves here at Coinage have been using it. Been very pleased with what we've been able to do to tell our community when we have events, shows like these with leading
voices in Web 3. And it's a way for them to listen in and a way for us to reward the people who have been attending our shows, our live spaces like this too. And so as we approach our drop to actually co-own what we are doing and building out the first community-owned outlets in crypto, so what we're all about here at Corners
We've been stoked to have you guys as a partner to help us drop those, the first access for people to mint at half price is pinned in the space. But Wilson, when you talk about that, I mean, let's use Link 3 as an example because it's the easiest one I think for us to wrap our heads around. Some people call it kind of like a LinkedIn.
the way that you can kind of attach and see your network on these things. But that is the big one and it seems to be the one that has increasingly hit home. Talk to us about how CyberConnect is intertwined with Link 3, the leading platform being built on top of your guys' decentralized network.
Yeah, so comparing to LinkedIn, obviously we have very similar profiles, like we have organizations to verify their profile, which
I think LinkedIn was trying to do as well. So far, LinkedIn 3 already verified it and onboarded more than 1900 profiles. I think most of them are crypto-native projects, investment institutions.
or media firms or platforms. So the things that we were trying to do with Link3, it's a social network that actually help people to discover
like web-generated content and articles and people and organizations and so far with the event plan in the future, I think we're hosting around almost like 300 events on a weekly basis.
And then we recently just launched a feature called Link 3 Post. It enables like organization like so far, only like verified organizations, but moving forward we can also enable like creators to create like
also the decentralized winner. And we're getting about a couple hundred poses on a weekly basis as well, like so far. And I'm moving forward, I think. A lot of the meaningful discussion could actually happen there, replacing
allegedly maybe you know, some stack or something. Yeah, so I'll say like it's not necessarily like like a LinkedIn, but he has all the features across those different apps. We're trying to create a very nice
And like very crypto native Social network, you know, not so not necessary using it to compare with liquid two apps. Yeah, no, I mean, I guess I guess that's kind of you know when we're explaining it to people who haven't jumped into crypto to understand and
you know, even how to use a wallet or how to interact with some of these things. It's always tricky to explain it in an apples to apples way. This space is kind of focusing in since it's on Twitter, focusing in on maybe some of the problems we've seen at Twitter and why, you know, there might be a need for some people to look beyond it. And of course, that has been the
In my case, a lot of people have been talking about what other opportunities exist in building tools. Like a CyberConnect, like Link 3, Blue Sky was also trending on Twitter not too long ago and it comes to other alternatives to some of these traditional Web2 social media platforms. When you look at it,
you personally, I mean, what was kind of the moment where it became clear to you that this is a better way forward to where users can kind of have more control over the platforms and the projects themselves rather than maybe the Facebooks, the Twitter's, the Instagrams of the world. What is the big unlock that made it obvious to you?
Yeah, I think there are basically two major moments there. Like one, it's, you know, back in the days when we were trying to be a decentralized live streaming platform, you know, we saw all those creators, even the largest one.
You know, we were trying to help them to build a new channel out of like the channel that they already have. Like let's say on YouTube or something. It was so hard for people to actually migrate. And the problem was
like they have no data, they have no idea like who their followers were. And once they get on a new platform, they have to bootstrap everything go like all over again or over again. So so that that was like the moments number one. And I just
that it was so important because if creators and users do not have ownership over their data, it eventually evolves into the problem of a fundamental conflict between a misalignment of interest between like platform versus creator versus users
and then therefore the platform who owns everything, it's gonna give you the unfair demotions policy or unfair content distribution policy or whatever. So I think fundamentally with Costhouse problem,
the data ownership and data in our the data ownership and the second moment is probably when I myself like play play games and use extra reach hat, talking to other apps, that experience was so small and amazing. I got to bring out of my friend's
to the apps that owned by Tencent, like League of Legends, right? And that experience was so smooth. And I thought to myself, like, why couldn't other apps have this? And it was because all my data is
on my 10 cents instead of myself. I have no control over what kind of application I want to bring my existing status to. It's 10 cents who give me that gate.
they're just selecting the apps that's 100% like you know in-house or something. So I mean those are like two of the times when I when I think of like social graph, decentralized identity and ownership like why ownership is important like what could
we do what, like, why the ownership of data can potentially change our experiences and also, like, moving forward, change the logoscope of social networks. Yeah. That's a really good point. I think those two things obviously are always a play.
time we're talking about Web 3 social because you're kind of talking about two important things and we'll use the Twitter metaphor there too because you know the idea of Elon Musk stepping in the whole blue check saga was an interesting thing because essentially the control there to pay for to give people their blue checks back even some people didn't want them didn't ask for them back
Basically became a decision of Elon and the idea that centralized power there, but then you also mentioned the ownership aspect in terms of again owning a piece of the network which you guys are enabling with the cyber token and your guys is coin listing thing coming up later in May. That big token sale and the idea
idea on both of those, it's interesting because you've got things that are more web-3 native like what you guys are building, but then also you got this idea of what Blue Sky is trying to do with federated servers and letting people decentralize the network that way. Is there one that you think stands out as a more sexy or a
appealing thing that you've seen early users really latch more onto is that the ownership stuff or the idea of kind of taking control away from the Elon Musk of the world that are holding the keys or maybe driving and steering to your point, which projects they want to really nudge people towards or perhaps voices they might want to silence.
To be honest, I think ownership is important, but it might not be the first reason why users are going to start using projects or do your application. I think when users are going to care about
It's one, what kind of unique services or experiences are you providing as an application or as a protocol? And then to like, fundamentally, what are these align with my ideology?
I think for Web 3 startups like us, we care especially in what kind of service we provide uniquely. For example, the event he truths that
that's on like three, you know, we help people to take attendance, we help people to collect an issue as BT like Web 3 SAT, as token that we issue like a approval attendance for virtual events. And that's going to also could be
the West token actually could be used for peer-to-peer endorsement moving forward, just like how you could write recommendations or do endorsement on LinkedIn. But in a way to, in a form of token, and therefore it's more compostable.
it could be used in so many other different scenarios like for example like with more and more status token that you collect, supposedly you have a higher chance to be a real human and also supposedly you know people could base on those tokens
build up with a pretty amazing reputation system and that's all the functions, all the composability that weren't possible before in Web2Roll. So with the user feature, with the right ideology, you can build a much larger
application or or or or protocol like with a very different I think direction. So I mean with with with Twitter and also Blue Sky I think what we're just taking a very different approach
We have the token parts, we have the on-chain parts. I don't think they have. The on-chain part is a key for composability. So all of our status, whatever data you own, you don't just want to own it.
you know, without everybody else to be able to actually work with your data. I think that limits the value of your data, the value that you're creating. I think to maximize the ownership, the value of ownership of the data,
It has to be somehow composable within an ecosystem that's probably a small contract base. So people can actually leverage your data to help you create more experiences.
I think that's a helpful distinction as we kind of draw the lines between what's different in some of these solutions to the problems we've seen in Web 2 social, whether it is what Bluescreen
guys trying to do, but also the ownership aspect. And to your point, on the link, three example, you know, that's what we've been seeing too. When you want to learn a little bit more about your audience and who they are, what they like, whether or not they're tuning into your shows and how you can kind of leverage that, whether it is on Twitter spaces or on our YouTube, and being able to unlock that. And if people are#
tuning into this space. We've got more than 1400 listeners here with us, Wilson. We are joined with the co-founder of CyberConnect. Wilson way chatting about Web3 social, what it unlocks, what CyberConnect is up to, and also Coinnage is partnering with CyberConnect to help their users become the first in line to come, what we're building here as a community-owned outlet.
You can check out more at coinage.media, but excited to be partnering with CyberConnect to help us get this off the ground. Wilson, that is a parallel here when we talk about what you're all about unlocking some of that stuff in terms of the data, the upside of letting advertisers see that data.
And it's a huge revolution in the way of thinking about things. And if people are just joining us and really, again, trying to wrap their head around what Web 3 socials all about, it's basically putting the user in control. And you mentioned the social graph, and that's something where user-to-user connections, relationships. Normally, that's kind of taken for granted.
on Web2 social platforms because it's there and the company's control that information and they sell it to advertisers. But when you put it on chain, just double down on that for us. Why is that so important when you're talking about composability in the way that it could be used and again, benefits the user and what is CyberConnect looking at in terms of unlocking that power?
>> Yeah, I think like give me some examples of why data compostability is important.
that lets use maybe a board at ERC called us an example. Because it's an FT, it's a standard format and it's on-chain. You can see so many other applications that
building around their community, they're building around their PPP NFTs and some might just view something directly for one specific ape. So that's the power of composability. Like people give
be around the stuff and help you to have more, you know, basically create experiences like, as a decentralized community, like you don't have to rely on one people that provide all the services, like it's an open platform.
And for like decentralized identity, why some of those like important status, I think it's worth to be living on chain. Like for example, you know, we have been working on this feature called pay subscription. If you have pay subscription,
to one of your favorite artists, for example, and then you got this West token that proved your subscriber status to, for example, like Zach.
pay like 100 bucks a month to listen to his ex-parks. So that's status now is leaving on Qing. And let's say you have multiple channels on some other decentralized applications. I don't like application does not have to talk to each other from the back
or using APS or whatever, they directly query that SPT on-chain, they read that data on-chain and now I can go to all the platforms and tell them, okay you can verify that I am a subscriber of XACTS, so I should be a subscriber of XACTS on your platform as well. No
what kind of content Zach is providing within your platform. Or at least you got to know Wilson is a subscriber and now he's on this platform within me again. Maybe you can provide me some some extra perks or something. And people could actually be like for example like the Repetite
vision system that I just mentioned. It's amazing how you can actually grab all those data and help, for example, myself to view a credit score system maybe, or at least a proof of human
system or some kind of like like like a lot of people go around those data as well and keep me more access or or or privilege or or perks in different use cases. So I think those are just some quick and very instant example use cases like why those data could
be very useful. And yeah, I think back to you, Zach, I think that's just a very simple way to explain how within a very short amount of time, how data composability can benefit us.
really good. It's a really good point to bring up because I think that is one of the aspects again as we've gotten off the ground the idea of having a large Twitter following and how do you convert that to a YouTube subscriber and how do you even know who's tuning into the spaces and again we've used link three to learn all that and it's been fascinating and fun to watch.
The idea of that score of a person really trying to prove out who they are, what they are, what they're all about. As you say payments, the idea of maybe even an on-chain credit score or trust score eventually moving into this world as we all become more attached with our digital identities. I think that's interesting because
Even in the Web 2 world, we've seen Elon Musk and what he's trying to do with Twitter and building out payments on their own platform seems to be an intriguing thing because now you are mixing the idea of digital identity, perhaps loans in the future, the idea of whether or not someone can actually be trusted. Are you saying these worlds kind of converge into, again, not
needing any centralized trust factor, the idea of a government or an agency saying, "Here's someone's credit score." It's just kind of based on everything you're doing online and your general digital identity. And if you at CyberConnector kind of attached all that, I assume that's kind of where the value unlock comes from.
I think like, first of all...
credit score or trust score has been involving in the last like that case or so.
In Asia, for example China, they created their credit score system, almost purely based on online digital experiences and interactions. So it's a very different system than the US have right now.
So I think I wouldn't be surprised when we begin to feature where your trust score or digital score is mostly based on your wallet related data. So I think
A lot of us actually spend a lot of time to online. And blockchain enables us to have the digital asset ownership rate.
And now the data owners are bright. So I think I can make so much sense to have all those things on the blockchain and also like
We don't need to, for example, we don't need to trust Twitter to come up with the greatest course. And any centralized platforms could be having a problem of lack of transparency, potential manipulation of data, all of that blockchain is not going to have that problem.
For example, it's hard to convince the Google to use the Twitter's trust score or something, because it's not trusted. But if something is out of the blockchain and the infrastructure
it sufficiently decentralized, I think it can be as a lot of people. It's interesting to hear you use the Chinese government example there, I suppose, because a lot of people in the US might always point to China as kind of like where we don't want to go in terms of free
and things like that or the idea of a big brother-trust score coming from governments and I think that as a global bill or... No, no, I mean the Chinese government, they don't have like official government trust score or credit score.
school. I actually coming out from with Tencent Alibaba something. Yeah, but you know, again, I guess, you know, to your point, I don't know if anyone trusts some of the tech giants here in the US any more than anywhere around the world, but the idea of having this all beyond chain is an interesting unlock. I think more so. And this is
kind of globally as we kind of step back. A lot of Americans might not understand the idea of why you might need something that's not run by the government for things like that because, you know, I guess it's all relative, but you might be able to say our government's steady enough. But when you look elsewhere, and I think that that's kind of an interesting question asked
you as a builder who's been working in multiple countries who have users around the world, what you've seen in terms of uptake from different users in places that might not have that luxury and where this technology really goes, especially as, you know, again, for anybody listening, they already know this, regulators in the US cracking
down on a lot of this technology in crypto in general. How you've seen country by country uptakes and I guess the prospects of using some of this technology moving forward, does it look different to you in terms of the growth matching up with some of that where people don't have trust?
institutions, whether they be huge tech monopolies or governments. Well, that's a huge question. I think we may be able to break that down a little bit. First of all,
I'm a huge fan of Bitcoin and his acu-sider. Oh, yeah, I'm still here. Oh, I just swapping camera stuff real quick. No big deal. Okay.
Yeah, I mean, I love the design of Bitcoin and I truly love the concept of a decentralized trust worth it, internet native.
digital currency. And I think that helps a lot of people from all over the world that's not buying the story of the US dollar. I think, you know,
the whole US dollar currency, it has a huge problem. They're issuing way too much money and it's in the power of one government
but it's a currency that's basically dominating all the trades that's happening all over the world. And to be honest, sometimes that's totally unfair. Sometimes it could cause a problem to
the US people, but sometimes it could cause a problem on global scale because you have this like one centralized party, determined
the supply of the currency and they sometimes feel like they don't have a copter money. Sometimes they feel like, you know, maybe we can do whatever to it. In general, I don't like the concept of being controlled by a small group of people.
and they can make, you know, sometimes decision that we might not agree with. And it's just lack of transparency and I think in order for like all those countries, all those individuals like to work together,
I think transparency, it's a good thing. Bitcoin provides this very simple model and it reaches the consensus so fast because it's simple. It does not have that many
complicated monetization policies or inflation are really policy it's super simple and I think that that's like a advantage of it and secondly it's a lot of a lot of the areas and in countries the
not properly banked, they don't have the infrastructure to do online banking or do even offline banking. It's hard, they don't have banking at all. They use hard cash and Bitcoin becomes the
you know, the potential currency solution for at least like blockchain, you know, I talk about blockchain, we have like stable currency as well. All of that. So I think, I think those are the good things about crypto.
And moving forward, I think there are lots of possibilities that some of the local governments might not even notice. It's like how creative the token could be. I mean, they obviously see some of
of scams. To be honest, there are some token sets doing some very interesting stuff. You're not talking about Pepe when you see that. Are you? Because everyone seems to be loving Pepe.
I do host of those. Oh, hey, oh, okay. Well, I mean, yeah, no, I mean, these the network effects and all these tokens kind of unlock. And again, and lining incentive seems to be the thing that really does from a behavioral economics standpoint.
That's my background. Kind of aligns everyone's interest in building value together. And that to me is pretty fascinating. You talk about Bitcoin and the simplicity of it and the idea of it being decentralized and no one can really be in control. I mean, that's another aspect that I think is pretty powerful to highlight when we get back to Web
three social just the idea of again. And this decentralized network underlying all the applications being built on top, whether it be link three, whether it be a favor, whether it be whoever's really trying to use cyber connects technology. How important is that to highlight when it comes to again not having one person be
control or one even group of individuals being control. And if you want to tie it back to the regulation question, how important is that when you look to, I guess, staying above the law in jurisdictions like the US when they seem to be getting unfriendlier and more unfriendlier to crypto companies trying to build stuff like that out.
Like, China tried to kill Bitcoin. Everyone always tries to shut these things down. You can't really do it when it's sufficiently decentralized enough. You can't chop off ahead of the monster if you're trying to regulate, I guess.
Yeah, I mean, that's a good side of being like sufficiently decentralized, you know, you don't have to. A lot of people talk about like,
data ownership as the fundamental
the cornerstone of empowering
freedom of speech and all those like
distribution and monetization rights. So I think it's obviously like important for people to actually be able to
voice their own voice and create a channel and collect money. Build up relationships directly with their friends so that whenever, for example, a centralized party disagree with your opinion, they cannot totally shut you down. So that's
something that you're actually building for yourself for the first time on the internet. You consider that like whatever that you build on Twitter, whatever you do on those tech giant platforms, you don't actually own it. You basically like you're renting a service from them, but if the landlord, the service provider,
It's not happy with whatever you're doing or they have a different political view or they just you know Don't like you're making money more than them, you know, they can show you that yeah, and that will sometime Yeah, so I think it's it's important um
And I think it's quite obvious like you do want to have over your living hood, you know, and lots of the content creators like their channel, their fan based, their monetization, their distribution, I think that's their living hood, you know, you got
want to own it. Yeah. And I guess, again, a reminder for anybody listening here, what you're talking about right there in terms of trust and having things be believed, I think, you know, coinage very much came out of that idea of mistrust or bias in news media, specifically for crypto. No one ever knows who the hell the trust. And what you're talking about there in terms of having a community or
show, letting our NFT holders weigh in on what the true story is and how we should tell it, I think is generally where our value comes from. And again, super stoked to be partnering with CyberConnect to let people own the show and buy our NFTs first. If anyone's listening here, though, request the mic hop up here because the other aspect that we unlock is having smart people like you, Wilson,
and join the show, let our NFT holders let our community pose the questions to people like you because maybe I'm not always the one who should be asking the questions, and I fully acknowledge that. But that's one thing to close out the space that if anyone wants to pop up here and ask us a question by all means. But Wilson, the one that I had too when we were hopping on the space today,
I would be remiss if I didn't highlight that you guys have some pretty big backers including multi coin and anamoka brands and One of the things that we talked about last time was kind of adoption for web 3 social users getting drawn into this by the things that we've discussed over the last hour But how quickly is that still ratcheting up you know when we talk about
adoption in what you've seen thus far because you know as you highlighted you can look at that whether it be unique users unique wallets account signing up monthly active users what are the numbers you point to and saying look this is just getting started this is the next wave of what we saw from the face books of the world back in the early 2000s how do you calculate it and what do you tell people
Like right now, like I already brief some numbers like, you know, we have almost a million cyber profile holders at the moment and link three SNF application. We're having almost one million monthly activities.
I think all those are good attractions, but it's too super early. To be honest, I think the problem with like web 3 getting all those massive adoption.
it's, it's you on the infrastructure, it's you on the structure, like right now the bottleneck, it's, you know, for example, it's hard to create a wallet, it's hard to purchase a token
It's hard to pay for gas fee. And all those things really stop people from the wealth to roll to experience what we're building. And therefore, like, why cyber connects? We do have
plan to introduce somehow like a wall that they can solve the onboarding problem easily. And I think that it's
It's not like, like, another thing that could help with, um, uh, uh,
I create via on RAM, like how can we get the on RAM done? Apple is charging everything related to, you know, they're charging basically like 30% from
any Apple? Yeah, anything. Sometimes, you know, like, for example, enabling trading on trading NFTs, like you're not supposed to charge that. And a lot of other cases, you're not supposed
to charge that but Apple have decided to, you know, have this kind of policy that is super strict on crypto, that's bad as well, like for mass adoption. But yeah, if you're on RAM and plus, like,
wallet onboarding those two are going to solve the problem of user Help user to get the first wallet ever and then also Somehow solve the problem of paying gases Making all those transactions. I think it's my concept
It's such a great concept. Accounting and distraction, how we could actually smoothen the whole experience of, you know, gaspaying and making those transactions without, without, like, just
clicking and clicking on on the wallet again, again, you know, that that's kind of stupid. It is and it's costly. It gets costly and it's stupid. I would agree with that. We also do have one community question here to post you as well because we were talking about using the social graph unlocking some of the power of
that in value of the social graph. One of the simple questions is just how someone can use that to make money in Web 3 social. And obviously that's always, I think that might be what most people are always interested in in this space. How do I make money on this? So what's the easiest answer to that question?
First of all, once you got the ownership over data and
Eventually, you have a better reputation, on-chain reputation based on the data that you have. That's going to help you get somehow wireless state on potential air drops on so many other projects. People have been trying to analyze based on your on-chain
data to come up with a trust score and somehow gate like you know use that as the basement guidelines for for for for wireless. So so I think building up your entrepreneurial reputation and only those data it's in general you know
a good thing for people who wanted to participate in the in wireless, in multiple wireless campaign, or drops and stuff. And secondly, I think there is a huge potential for
you know, crypto to change ad revenue distribution.
So previously, like users did do not get any ad revenue. And I think that's that.
after you're wrong. We spent eight hours a day looking at this, like the screen and pay so much attention to all the things that we're watching. And we can get a penny out of it, right? So I think for some people, it actually makes sense to
have them share a little bit of the ad revenue or whatever revenue the platform is generating. And how could the platform do that? I think it's going to be based on the decentralized trust-related data
that you are to own through the blockchain. I think that's been maybe one of the things that Elon Musk also realized and we highlighted this in our discussion with what he might be trying to do with Dogecoin, what he's certainly trying to do with the payments platform and what he's trying to unlock. If you go
talked about. But do you think Elon Musk can win? Because you just described a bunch of incentives that Web 3 unlocks, that ownership piece, unlocking all of the stuff that we provided these platforms. But if Elon can't do that, I mean, do you think Elon's destined to lose?
Oh, I mean, I think like Elon purchasing Twitter for me, I think it makes a makes the company
competition for people like us, I think Elon is Elon, right? I purchased my first stock when I was in college and that was Tesla. But I think fundamentally,
No matter how hard they tried.
It's still centralized. It's still not transparent enough. It's still not giving the ownership back to users. You still own the the monetization channels. You still could do whatever you want and you know,
as human beings, you're not always, you're not going to be able to always make the right decisions. So I think, I think,
It's something we all want it to be more decentralized, but it's really hard to say whether they're designated to fail or something. It's really hard. We are so already like one million monthly active users versus their 100
hundreds of millions of active users, I think. I don't think we're there to say that yet. But at some point, it's either we like, maybe centralized version are going to tick over them or they start migrating to become a more and more decentralized platform. And I think either way,
it's equally possible. But the wrong answer is to maintain centralization and don't give back the ownership back to users. I think that's like, sure, it's going to lose.
I'm biased because I would agree with you on that because you know we have the same aspects here at coinage in terms of giving the cone or should piece back to our NFT holders. How can that not win against you know media orgs that are focused on dividing or leaning into bias and keeping all of those those things that blow up
because they've sensationalized news for themselves versus delivering some of that back via our dividends to the community and our NFT holders. So I would agree with you in terms of why ownership matters so much. And that seems to be a huge point to emphasize as we wrap up the space Wilson. But I do want to remind everybody who's listening. Again, one of the main
reasons why we have super smart people like you on the show is because this is not easy to do. Like you said, everyone's trying to build in this space. There's a bunch of different projects who are trying to leverage that ownership piece in Web 3. You've partnered with a lot of them, favor another partner of ours. And again, we've pinned in the space the ability for cyber
users to be the first in line to cone coinage as we have this NFT drop come out. And again, unlocking everything from coding the show to bring on guests like you, voting what we should be covering on and naming the stories that are key in covering the story of crypto. But Wilson, I want to let you have the final opportunity to let people know what's coming as we mentioned the ability to
to unlock cyber tokens to come what you guys are building at cyber connect coming up later in May. What do you want to end on in terms of the big push for people who are interested in what we discussed here with Web 3, link 3, coinage also a user of link 3. What is the thing, the push that you want people to leave with as we wrap up on Web 3 social?
We're proud and excited to introduce the cyber token concept. It's a major step for the cyber connect protocol to become more and more decentralized. I encourage people to look at
the design of it, we're going to share more of what we're working on the release of the light paper that's going to be live in the coming probably like one to weeks. So I think that's a huge, huge step for cyber connect to actually interact with
to use the token. Yeah, so that's something I want to share with the people here. If there's only one key takeaway, go to our link 3, go to our Discord and find that information. We're going to have the
The first version of our light paper, established on link three posts as a decentralized content piece that lives forever. So, yeah, please stay tuned on that. Yeah. Well, I've found this conversation fascinating. Again, I appreciate you hopping on with us.
us again to chat through all these things. The co-founder of CyberConnect Wilson Way, taking an hour out of his day to chat with us. Appreciate everybody who tuned in and listened, of course, as always, through Link 3, our Coenage Tokenholders. We appreciate you as well. Also going to be first in line, the pins tweet on this space. I'll leave you with that.
everybody, I'm Zach Uzbon, the host of Coinnage signing off. Thanks again. Thank you.