Humanode <> OccamFi IDO AMA

Recorded: March 14, 2023 Duration: 0:48:19

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Okay, we figured it out. Victor? Fantastic, wonderful.
Oh, good. Thank you. Thank you very much. You long for that one.
Okay, so what I've done is I've put out another tweet. We'll see if we get some people filtering in. Otherwise, if we don't get enough people filtering in, we'll just have to reschedule and try again. It just doesn't make no sense. We've been up until already.
So what we'll do is we'll give it five minutes or so I've already put out a tweet so I'll put some stuff out on the socials and see if we can get some more people in here.
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Hey, my doctor. Just so you're aware we've had a technical issue with our planned space, which was at five o'clock. This is the this is the reattempt. So we'll see if we can get some a few more people in and when and if we do, then we'll get this AMA going.
Yeah, and meanwhile we can talk with you, those are already keen.
Yeah, of course, I mean, just for you Matt, we are hosting part of Victor's, of part of
human nodes fundraising on our platform, welcome, razor. And they are well, I'll let Victor please, if you just want to describe your project quickly to Maddo, it would be very, very, very helpful. Sure. Well,
To tell quick, it's the first blockchain where one human can only launch one node, meaning that he will have one vote, which will be equal to everybody else. And that creates the network really decentralized. How we do that, we do that through
a facial recognition so that you could prove who you are, you could prove you're unique, you're alive, but the system has no idea who you are because original data about you is completely deleted, there is no KYC or
or whatever makes it completely private. Well, yeah, that's a good start, I would say. Okay, thanks for that, Victor. So what I think we'll do is we'll just, if you're willing, then we'll just go through the AMA and
I'll ask you a question in the second time. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And we'll just see if we can get some people trickling in after the technical issues from the first one. Okay, so I'm just going to say firstly, thank you very much for everyone for attending. We are going to be having a competition in this space. So if
We've already had some questions submitted from the first space, which was ill-fated with technical issues. So if you would like, you can post some questions in the comments of this space, and we will be giving out some prizes at the end. So just make sure you use good questions, because it will be quality questions that will get rewarded.
I'm here with Victor from Human Note. Why don't you just tell us about yourself Victor, your background and what led you to creating human note? Okay, well, my background in university was in international relations and macroeconomy.
I would like clearly say that macroeconomies, the least developed science in the world, that influences us a lot every day. Many people suffer from it. So the goal was always to change that.
Well, because of that pretty early me and my founder, Dato went into crypto. First, when, well, Bitcoin was banned in China. I remember that moment in 2013, but after that,
2016 when Ethereum came out we decided to completely devote ourselves in research in crypto and that's how we found that paradigm research group that is still alive and publishing
deep tech reports almost on daily basis. Well, we couldn't stop building companies because before crypto were entrepreneurs in traditional IT and then we built the proof of stake platform
In 2018, well, from that we understood the situation inside out. And by situation, I mean the real distribution of power in decentralized kind of decentralized blockchains.
Eventually we saw how a small group of validators just in private chats decide the fate of the whole blockchain. It subgrades, it's treasury management. And we were clearly so that, well, this is not really decentralized.
There should be a limit to how much power can one person amass or one company amass in a decentralized network otherwise it will be, oh, you got fully controlling the blockchain.
We had that idea from 2017 but had no idea how to implement it. And only in 2020 when I was always chatting to Dato for hours, he was like, "Hey, how about we
use biometrics.
and make the biometric data private and connect it to the blockchain so that one person could only launch one node. And that what we started in mid 2020
with the first tests coming out in January with the first fully-flagged testnet coming out in September 21. And here we are with the
launched mainnet with the blockchain working steadily and with a lot of exciting use cases coming out of private biometrics for the crypto industry. That was our way
That's absolutely incredible Victor, really. I believe with the real Achilles here, the blockchain right now is governance. That's the primary issue, is lack of decentralization.
and like a simple resistance. So yeah, that's absolutely pretty an answer Victor, well done. So maybe succinctly, as you can manage what exactly is human note, if you can just tell the audience, for ever just to end up.
Well, if we talk technologically on infrastructure level, humanoid is a separate blockchain, which is Ethereum compatible.
meaning you can launch all the same smart contracts on our network than on Ethereum. But the blockchain doesn't require you to stake tokens or to purchase expensive mining equipment and farms. All what you need is
to biometrically prove that your real and unique through facial recognition once a week and run a small server. So all these servers talk to each other. Everybody has an equal
share in the fees structure, in consensus, and in voting power. So, well, as an infrastructure, that's how human out looks like. I think I can talk about the use cases that are derived from that later.
Yeah, absolutely fair enough. I'm sure there's plenty once you want to get governance sorted out there's gonna be a lot of use cases that you just can't get done on some of the potchains Right fantastic, and so I guess with with biometrics you have some What what do you call this? It's not proof of stake. It's not proof of what
What is it? Well, call it the proof of existence. Why? Because in biometrics, there is the thing called lameness detection. So it doesn't really care about how you differ from other people. It just tries to understand through
a lot of modules and an AIs that you are a real human being right now in front of the camera that you're not a fake, that is not a photo that somebody will try to pretend another person and this is a part which we call truth of existence.
And of course the other part is proof of uniqueness which comes from another module in biometrics and another AI that compares anonymized data from your 3D face maps.
So yeah, that's in short now people stay now, but of work just proof of human existence and uniqueness That's somewhat poetic. I like it fantastic Okay, so in that case we were discussing governance so how to like it I guess
having one node and one unique human behind each node. I guess that does want a simple resistance. So I guess just to describe human nodes approach to simple resistance and attacks. Well, I would say that the simple resistance it comes from
the biometrics themselves. If we talk about Dao, there is of course humanoid Dao, which is still in its infancy. And you know, it was a pretty complex problem for us.
And I would say that only the knowledge of political science that Dato has helped us to solve it because if you have completely horizontal, I would say, governance where anybody can jump in and have the same rights as others,
you are subject to attacks, coordinated attacks of somebody paying a lot of people coming in and making really important decisions that the real community doesn't want to. So what we had to do with the Dow is
create different tiers based on how long did you run the node, how long did you vote on proposals, and if you actually proposed or did something for the network. So, and this
things, they will decide what tier you are and based on this you have different rights which stops us from many many attacks and gives us the possibility of gradual decentralization because every
democracy or republic wasn't built on day one? No, of course not. And it sounds like a building symbol of a meritocratic system, which is difficult to say the least. So that's an impressive goal. That's right. Well, we
We can jump to another theme, right? So I just described how we use biometric civil resistance and for our own doubt, for, I would say, our own blockchain and financial system. But we are here as well to help other systems.
And I mean, everybody here probably knows how currently Dows run in crypto space, what tools they use. The most popular of them is snapshots, for instance. So the thing is that snapshots can also
use our private biometric servers and that means that anybody can create a dial where one person is one vote or he could introduce a quadratic voting based on both civil resistance and
token holdings. Well, that's a powerful tool that many companies are adopting right now. Absolutely. I mean, that sounds like an entire biometric infrastructure layer that's going to be useful for a lot of people. That's what we use every day.
So yeah, I mean, I guess I did to see a couple of things in your white paper that were really interesting. So you utilize trusted devices and that kind of introduces some centralized entities, I guess. So how do you maintain your decentralization if that involved?
use is actually trusted execution environment for encrypting the biometric data. And the thing is that it is provided by just two companies right now.
AMD and Intel SGX. And the thing is that you're not fully dependent on them. Of course you have what it's called a station that the servers run as they need to by these companies, but at the same time the biometric servers themselves
they are not held by only like foundation or only centralized companies. These biometric servers are set up also through voting by people from the community and they are not only checked by this
companies providing hardware, but they also check each other.
So that's how we decentralised biometrics for now. This is what we have. And we are also building our reversion to of biometric privacy and decentralisation, which
will work without any hardware, specialized hardware needed. So there we will have the thing called collective authority. And what it does is that it
collects the keys from each server into one collective decentralized authority and without that collective key, each party cannot decrypt the data that it processes.
So yeah, there are two different versions to approach is to it. Hardware approach is the first one because it's faster, simpler.
version 2 is also in R&D by our team for one and a half years. This is really a long-term project.
Yeah, it sounds a picture. It really does. It's impressive. Some of the work you put into this. So I'm just going to do a quick reset of the space. Guys, welcome. We're talking to Victor from human node. Human node is the very first crypto biometric blockchain where one human actually equals a single node.
It's a it's an entirely different system that takes a lot of new and innovative approaches. We're here today because human node is doing a part of their fundraising on our platform, Occam Razor. So it'll be very appreciative if you just jump over to Occam.fi find the razor platform and
just check out their their IDEO. They'll be going on, I think, registrations close on the 16th of this month, 12 PM UTC. And we will be starting the IDEO, I believe, on the 17th day, the day after. So if you're in this space, make sure you jump down to the comments.
make sure you like, retweet and put a comment in this space of any questions you may have and the very best questions at the end of the space will be receiving a reward in human node. So you can look forward to that. Okay, Victor, so we'll just get back to what we were talking about. And so trust the devices you've got, you
definitely got a plan for your decentralization here that's fantastic, it's always good to see. So you were talking about the cameras and the kind of equipment that people actually have in their homes to use this biometric authentication. So if they have a really low resolution camera, I believe that's actually been an issue classically with
this kind of authentication? Do you have an approach for that? Yeah, sure. At the moment, three megapixel camera would be enough. This is pretty low resolution. Well, other than that, you could always
ask your friend to use his device because our assistant, well, it doesn't tie your biometrics to device like ApplyD for example, and you can actually access it with your one and only face from any device in the world you find.
Okay, so you can kind of like authenticate once with the and then every time you have to reauthenticate like you said that was weekly correct. Well, for our chain yet, this is weekly for the product we're developing for for discord. We actually have already discord.
integration and for our later release of humanoid ID, you will get your biometric identity for one year. Okay, great. Yeah, I mean, obviously that's a lot more convenient and so as long as we can maintain
that way that's great. Fantastic. So what are your ecosystem goals? How are you going to drive adoption and what exactly type of person is human trying to attract? Just give me a bit of a rundown. Okay, there are a few levels of adoption. There is the adoption
in terms of our community, community of developers, which all will be engaged in one DAO, which will be first based on D-Work, and then it will be based on our own development.
And, well, this is how we can attract developers, transparently, who can take the tasks and get the rewarded for them. And the voting for all of these, of course, will stay.
space, like one human one vote. Another part of the adoption we're working on now is the adoption of this court integration. Why it's important because we developed the thing
When you can get a unique role on this court, after a biometric session, like just about 30 seconds and you're done, and it proves that your unique and real in the context of the whole
that means that you can have one person, one vote, right, in the discord community to really understand what the community thinks without being civil attacked. And basically anybody can
add this to their server even without our permission. This is in Betanao, but we already have a few companies, communities and servers in crypto and gaming who are eager to adopt it.
once we are on mainnet with this product. And the other thing is that our network is Ethereum compatible. And another way to gain adoption is to welcome the projects to our change.
who can on our chain both directly use our biometrics and deploy their smart contracts.
Yeah, no doubt if you're a UVM compatible that opens up an awful lot of extra doors and with the biometrics you offer, that's going to be a very useful value add for a lot of projects as well. In fact, our current Discord model, we've just updated our Discord governance model. We will even be useful there.
So maybe we'll have to have a chat about that. Right. Fantastic. And so you're conducting a part of your fundraising with OccamRazor. Obviously, that's why we're here. So can you describe kind of where this race fits in with your overall fundraising, the distribution, everything?
Well, we are having our last raises before our token goes live on exchanges. Well, where it feeds, I would say that we already know all come communities since we've been working
with the Alchem Dow for half a year. Alchem is very strong in marketing and has a lot of long-term supporters. So I would say where it's been saying that we as human out
really want to be closer with Alchem Dau and his participants. So I would say this is the main goal to have you in our community also as token holders because it kind of aligns us.
Of course, very kindly you'd say about our community, and they are very strong, you agree. So it was the human loved one. Awesome. So guys, you heard Victor make sure you jump over to our discord, make sure you jump over to human node, socials, all of them. Make sure you give them a like and a subscribe.
So we're going to move into some community questions. I think if that's okay. Sure. Okay. Cool. So I'm just going to look through the comments now. So I'll just read
state, any questions that you ask in the comments, there will be put into a draw at the end of the space for some human note tokens, so make sure that you put in your best possible questions in the comments. I will be inviting a couple of people up
at the end of the time. But for now, just put your questions in the comments below. So we have Gary Smith. He's asked, "Will there be any task set to implement?" Sorry, just be two seconds, just while I make sure I rephrase this. "Will there be any task set to implement your
biometric technology onto phones or ledger hardware devices. Well, it already works on phones. That's how it works. And in terms of ledger devices, there is an interesting
new Ethereum improvement proposal that actually addresses complex
control of your Ethereum wallet through a smart contract where you can actually not just control it through your private key but put different two-factor authentication methods.
And that's where we can step in so that you can only send a transaction, for example, a huge transaction from your Ethereum account if you also, well, prove that
you're still the same human being that used it initially. That's what we are totally considering and can make after the finishing of humanoid ID.
Absolutely fantastic. So if we can get as many integrations as we can, it seems like Puman node is a very, it's going for a general generalist kind of approach and infrastructure approach so they can kind of be integrated with almost anything with another Earth or an effort. That's right.
Let's get you another second question. Yeah, we can get the second question in. Okay, so we have Peter. Peter is one of our welcome ambassadors. Thank you very much, Peter. How is privacy preserved on chain in relation to biometric data?
So our chain itself is public, so the date on the chain is public, like in any other public blockchain, in terms of biometrics. Well, the privacy is preserved.
Right now through special hardware devices that are actually used by many crypto companies already like secret network and like ran protocol, which is what's
called the Republic Protocol before that. So these are the hardware servers where we process the biometric data. And actually, nobody can get insight because the key from the biometric server is
thrown away and the memory is encrypted. We do not save biometric data directly on chain. No, it only exists in the memory of these biometric servers which are tied to our chain.
Okay, so it sounds like the day is safe, secure, as anything can be in the day or age. Okay, so we've got one more question from Tolga Osek.
just give me two seconds while I refresh this one again. What situation in what is the situation for crypto insurance for human node? Apparently he read an article on medium and he's wondering about potential steps.
You mean to use our private identities for insurance? I'm assuming so. I can only assume so.
Yeah, well, this is kind of one of ideas that we had that anybody in our ecosystem could build using the human or biometrics. And well, with insurance, I would say that right now in crypto,
For example, there are a lot of on-chain transactions and operations. You can prove with these transactions and operations that you are actually
Well, you're actually a good reputation. However, if you had bad reputation on chain, now you can just create another account, right? And, well, start from zero. This is a problem.
And well, the only way you can solve it is by using simple resistant techniques. Well, and here I'm talking of course about our biometrics so that you could kind of tie your Ethereum account to your
identity to your private biometric identity. And by that you can prove that you only had one account. Here is the history of all your credit operations. Here is the history of how many fonts you have.
And with that, there could be a better insurance protocol build. As far as I know, right now in crypto, insurance usually works for ensuring the smart contracts against.
There are failures, but insurance is not tied to it, and people cannot get better rates, for example, because there is no civil resistance in crypto for now.
Yeah, absolutely. It's like I say at the start of the beginning, it's definitely the Achilles heel of governance right now. And you seem to be having quite a novel approach to it. So what we're going to do right now, because we kind of want to keep this on the hour if we can just for people's time as we took a little bit of time at the beginning, I'm just going to invite both Papa Spurff and
and T-gods up to speak, which I've done already, because they both had some questions in the comments. A couple of questions each, so I'm just going to let you guys speak and ask your favourite question, try and keep it short so Victor can answer both your questions in the next 10 minutes, and we'll go to T-gods first.
Perhaps. Hello, can you hear me? Yeah, hello, we can. All right. My question is very simple. I just want to ask concerning your team experience because within the years of building, how's the whole experience have so far and bringing the projects to where it is today?
So the question is about whether we're building everything in-house or not? Actually, you hold an experience. How has it helped so far in the projects that were existing today?
You know we can talk a lot about the experience of the team. So most of the team members who are not writing the code for example have been in crypto for years so they know how to manage communities, they know how to describe new ideas into articles.
And of course, Mi Dado and the researchers from our research group. Well, we've seen thousands of projects through their phases. We also helped them through their phases. And this actually helps not to miss anything.
in our operations. Well, if you take our development team, well, these guys have a lot of experience. For example, we have only one front end engineer. Why? Because we don't need anybody else. Since he can build front ends that others
built in weeks like in one day and our privacy and blockchain team, well these guys have been building distributed systems even before blockchain became a thing like in the 2010-2011 already
they build huge distributed systems, just not connected to crypto and it's pretty easy for all of them. It's been pretty easy to jump into crypto so that like even before we met they already knew
which tech stack to choose. So I mean in our two point half years of development there was pretty much no cases when we built something and then after doing some research we said okay we have to rewrite it and that's
That actually makes us develop pretty fast despite the fact that we We value security over anything else and even if we take other open source repositories like for example substrate
We go through every line of code of it and then basically commit pull requests even that Polkadot itself for example uses. So that's how I would describe that.
Well, that's really great. Thank you for the answer. Thank you for your question to you, Godson. I really appreciate it. Okay, so if we can go to Papa Smith, we'll get your question. If there's time at the end, which it looks like that, maybe we will get some more questions up. We've got some more requests. Okay.
Papa Smurf if you can take it away.
plans for Android and iOS devices. We have liveis plans. Especially when our blockchain is ready to scale not just thousands of nodes, like we have
right now, but the goal is to have millions of people in the system working together and replacing the current not decentralized banks and not decentralized blockchains. We want to have a long
which you can just download on your phone and directly from your phone launch the note in the cloud server. This is totally possible. Okay, okay, thank you very much for that. So, and the second question is about the long time users.
like those that have actually been with you for many see the actually panel like launching an adrup because I know she's that that's a awesome project actually dude is there is they actually reward their users like the at a long time users those that engage with their friends so they have plans for that oh yeah actually we already
did that. So we've been running our test nets from September 2021 until the main net launch in November 2022. And we did an interesting thing because there were some people who were running them all just for for 10 days.
but there were people who were riding an old for a year and in order for those people who were riding an old for a year not to get a huge reward we did the quadratic like airdrop as in like quadratic voting on it
coin for example. So yeah, we already did that. We have a lot of active community members and more than 10 K people launched the nodes during our test nets. Okay, thank you very much. That's all I have to ask. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, thank you, Paul.
That's a great question. I'm just going to give a reminder to everyone, but in the last few minutes of the space, if you could just jump down to the comments, make sure you like and retweet that would be really helpful. We'll bring up, I think, Frankie, if you can't mind because he seems to be making a lot of noise with his emojis.
Anyone else who wants to come up just give me a few emojis too, that would be great. And we can add on a little bit of the issue if we have time. Welcome to the stage, if you're here. If you do, you're going to be here. I think you may have disappeared, I'm not sure.
I think Frankie may have disappeared. Okay, it will go for a tie-up official.
Oh, thank you. He's back. I asked it. Please. Of course, Frankie. Hello, can you hear me?
Yes, we can. Okay. Yeah, thanks for bringing me up. Okay. So my question is I just wanted to know about the, about the hammer node. I just wanted to know like, can you tell me like what are the strategy you actually having?
place to actually build the community and actually keep the community engaged in if you have any activity like to keep the the community engaged to to keep on with the development and progress of the project.
Of course, so number one thing that we already have to not only keep people engaged but for them to have like their voice heard is that we host our community polls I would say in our discord where we
can be sure that one person can vote only once and we surely even paste our decisions as founders on that. So the next thing that will be rolling out the bound
and grant program pretty soon in a decentralized fashion where you could just jump and propose your idea of what you're going to do, what it be marketing or development or product ideas and then you could
execute this idea fully, transparently, openly. You don't have to communicate with foundation all the time waiting for our answer now because all the community members will see what you've proposed, what you're building, and you can actually permissionlessly receive the reward from the smart country.
for executing your ideas. And I would say that, yeah, in the Dow, that would build, which is more democratic than others, the community will be more engaged that it is probably right now with some public blockchains who control everything themselves.
Okay, yeah, thanks for the wonderful answers.
Thanks for the interesting question.
Thank you, Frankie, for a few shares. OK, we've got time for one more question. We're going to take TIE official, and then we're going to wrap this space up. So TIE, please take away your question to Victor.
Hello, can you hear me? Hello. Yes, we can. Okay, thank you. My question is about your marketing plans this year.
What we've seen doing a lot of marketing through these two point half years is that product releases and integrations are the best marketing. That's what we're going to do. That's what we're going to market and we'll use
We have three marketing tools for doing that, like Galaxy, Q3, Gilt, because what we found is that in crypto everything has to be
Web 3, even marketing and community management. So this is the focus of our marketing teams. Of course, not talking about the interaction with the community.
Okay, thanks. Can you tell me where to buy or to you? Sorry, could you repeat that? Okay, tell me where to buy or to you. About to you. Okay. Right now.
Yep, our team is right now 18 members of which 10 are engineers. Some of them work on front 10 some of them on use cases but more
mostly they work on biometric privacy and the blockchain itself. We have got three people on the media team, well educating community writing articles and PR pieces.
And as well as we have manager assistant of ours and we've got like four full-time community managers.
helping out with, well, launching nodes, testing our new products, using our new products, and just hanging out together.
Okay, thank you so much.
Yeah, we've been together for more than a year, all of us. So we really feel like a family already who can do anything.
Okay, thank you. Thank you.
And thank you for your question, say, yeah, I can confirm that Victor and the team are wonderful people. So, right, this, we don't have any more time for any more questions. I do apologize for that. I would like you all to just take this opportunity to jump over to, to, to, Arkham.fi. Check out the Razer platform where human node is going
to be running their fundraising. This is the registrations and on the 16th. We'll be starting the IDO on the 17th. If we can make sure we show human nodes and love, if you jump over to the human node profile, I believe they're in the list right now, or you can just type in human node in the search box, make sure you go and subscribe to
their channel to their socials. And if you can also subscribe to Welcome Fight Out, be wonderful too. I'd really appreciate that. So we're just going to say thank you. Thank you very much for joining us, everyone. Thank you for the speakers. Thank you for your questions. It's been very--
I'll be doing an announcement post for the winners of the contest. So just reference, anyone who's new, we've been having a small contest, anyone who makes a question in the comment below has the opportunity to make it to the earns of human no tokens. So thank you very much,
for that. Do you have any more final remarks, Victor, before we close this up? Well, that was a pretty pleasant AMA, I would say, better than others I participated in. Thank you so much for that. And it would be happy if you become part of our community.
We remain that anybody can become humano. You do need small amount of tokens for that, but you can just ask them from our community. You don't need to be a millionaire to participate in the blockchain finally. So try it out. Maybe it will be fun for you, like it is for us.
I must say it's really nice to see another team who take decentralization and who take community so seriously. It's honestly great to see it's been in this world as governance governance is such an important subject in our space and it gets overlooked far too often.
Yeah, there are many problems to solve in governance. We're taking just one approach, but with our civil resistance, well, anybody can create their own now as if he seems fit. No doubt, I'm with a secure in a secure manner with a biometrical authentication that seems like
very very secure and very convenient method of doing that. Yep, I'm private at the same time. Okay guys, well thank you very much for joining us everyone in the audience. It's been an absolute pleasure. So just make sure you follow all our socials and join us on the next base.
We're going to obviously be having more spaces on various topics as well as with the IDO partners. So just make sure you give a follow to the ockham.fi account. And we will see you on the next one. Thank you very much for joining us and goodbye. Enjoy the rest of your day. Good bye everybody. Thanks.