In THE BAT CAVE with Hyperspace — SOL NFT Marketplace & Aggregator

Recorded: Nov. 11, 2022 Duration: 0:59:58

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Hey everybody Hey, how's it going good? How you doing great? How about you? You know it's another busy Friday
ready for to be you know the weekend but not yet. All right we'll wait a little bit more for Raeus to hop in.
But yeah, looking forward to this space for sure.
All right, we've got some guys here that earn here. And do you guys have anybody else on your side that's going to be coming in?
I'm just gonna say maybe Brian. Yeah, once he comes in, he can request. We'll pull him up. What's up, Pierre? How you doing? Doing well. I have the construction upstairs always. Still doing the construction.
Oh yeah! So we'll get to hear some lack of instruction we're going on. Dude, it's polishing the floor slightly. Sounds like it. Yeah, sounds like at least they're getting almost done there. So yeah, I feel free to
you know, sitting out should link get this thing going in the next little bit. Hello, hello, hello. Hello, veteran. It's a cool profile picture got there mate. Eat all you two. It's a great pro.
only do was here to show you these profile pictures too. Yeah, Jenny, Jenny said that it rough today. Yeah, the man's edition does. Yeah, it's clear to take you to honor. It's been a rough couple of weeks, guys. Sounds like it. Yeah.
What's what's your name on the hyper space account? Sorry No, no problem. Oh, this is funny. Danny. Okay. Yeah, that's Yeah, usually Jenny's the one in this spot here. So obviously Don't sound like Jenny. That's what they're
laugh and act here. But also I always realize how big these shoes are that have to feel when I have to step in here. So really appreciate Jenny more whenever I have to step in. But that should be good once it be fun.
Hello, Benny.
Hey, how's it going?
Well, I got names like I can say names who are you guys? All right. I'm Drew by the way. Yeah.
I'm Adam and those seconds of dead air are normally not here when Jenny's here. They're instantly filled.
I'm GearM, pleasure. I gotta ask, how many of these Twitter spaces do you think you've hosted over the last like a few months?
So this is like number 33 or 4 maybe. Did we start counting on one? I think so. I think there's pretty much all of that there. And that's been over, I don't know, it's probably been what, 10 months or so. We started earlier in the year. Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
Yeah, so how do you guys been? How do you sign them regularly as well? Um, somewhat. Sometimes we host, sometimes we join. I would just say in general Twitter spaces are very active, right? But there's no organized structure.
Well, one thing that I heard recently is that the proliferation of audio on the internet is the same revolution that the printing press was when that came out.
Um, that's kind of a hot take. I would say definitely social out of social audio is valued and it's very interactive and I would say that Elon Musk kind of buying out Twitter's a bullish sign of that.
because I think he's gonna prioritize this and sees it like in a similar limelight to Twitch, but it's just like a more interactive experience because anybody can come up and speak. So I definitely say it has a future.
I was in a recent seminar, a webinar actually, and the guy said that these year, 2002nda tree would be the year off the video.
The year of video. Interesting. I don't know. I kind of think it's been the year of audio. I don't think YouTube is necessarily popped off. I guess you can make the argument that TikTok has, but...
Yeah, because every little platform is switching to video like there you got Instagram rails, you got the YouTube shorts and everything seems to go in that direction like short span video.
Yeah, but I also think like podcasts have really emerged in the last I don't know since the beginning of COVID, but I guess maybe there's also a priority towards videos well for podcast Yeah, these seem like podcasts seems to be you know growing
ever since like best tree or four years from you know because we used to have like those in the early that was 2006-2008 those weren't famous at all and now they're getting so big and the thing is that they can also generate extra revenue by doing highlights
God shit. So I actually, I guess we'll just kick it off, but I have a few questions just for like what is being built with the attention token. So like I know about Brave, right? Brave's pretty much a strong browser with good privacy productions.
A lot of people on the web3 are crypto-advocated, more so than Chrome. So like what the atot, the basic attention token, are you kind of, is that wrapped in with a, I would say like, brave at all, like what are kind of, yeah.
Yeah, actually just about to talk a little bit about that as we get started here. So yeah, real quick, you know, we'll get this thing going. It's recorded for those that aren't able to make it right now so they can listen later. But yeah, obviously like you said, Brave is, you know, one of the safest privacy
the market, you know, blocks are the creepy ads and trackers, those kind of things by default. And then it utilizes the basic attention token as a unit for the attention economy as the first global
private ad platform. So basically you get rewarded in basic attention token for opting into privacy preserving ads on the Brave browser. So that's the main purpose and main use case of the basic attention
token, although of course Brave is always looking for more ways to use the pad token. And an example of that is yesterday in the mint of the bat and Adam Ape. It up to you that was minted yesterday, you could mint with the bat token.
So, you know, with Solana wrap that. So, those are some of the other things that they're looking to do. Let's see, they're looking to do rewards or bad utility for search that brave search utilizing in ecommerce and
IP and S, IP and IPFS, things like that. But those are some of the things for now, by always looking for more use cases and ways to use the basic intent to token. So I've got a few things about it. You know how it's a try-on.
that represents the free parties that are the parts of the BATH ad ecosystem. So you've got the users can earn it for, you know, exchange exchange for their attention currently. They can do that through the opt in rewards, which, you know, it puts a little under the truce of adverts in the corner, which you are.
you don't even have to click them. If you create it, you can sign up to be a brave content creator and then you can receive back tips via a little thing at the top and finally, advertisers, they get a better return because it doesn't, you know, it's, it's harder
than regular adverts because when you're using break, is that the only one you see? And one of the long term goals of BAT is to be like, you know, like if you're buying NFTs, say at the moment like you can buy them on Salana, Ethereum, NIA,
whatever you get whatever you buy them on you using like say the gas token but in theory in the long term back could be used like as a unit of currency across all the James say you wouldn't have to use the gas token you could just use the bat that you've earned through other places
It seems like you guys are trying to solve the problem of the attention kind of economy, right? That's how I interpret it because that's where I would say social media in general are just like that that's
what sells, that's what is valued more, I think, like the amount of listeners, but also just active listeners. And here you have that triangle to keep and push towards that balance. Yeah, definitely try to be the unit for that.
attention economy and those kind of things. But the initial and probably biggest thing as of now is the digital advertising and kind of fixing the message that is digital advertising, I would say. At least main purpose. And like I said, I always look
So that's a little bit about us. Why don't you tell us a little bit about Hyperspace and what you guys are all about and what kind of kind of get going from there. Yeah, so Hyperspace is this all-in-one, Solana NFT marketplace focused on aggregating all of
NFT listings from all marketplaces giving that good overview. The comparison I always like to use if people don't understand that is we're kind of like the Kayaks, the Kayak of Solana and FTs. And through that we're focused on building the best NFT trade
experience for everyone while protecting the openness and composability of Web 3, which I think gets lost at times due to general business practices. At the end of the day, consumer cares is what's going to drive Web 3 forward and that's something we prioritize at hyper space.
When you say consumer cares, what do you think about that? That's something you can really get into. I think in Web 3, you hear a lot of people say it, but just focusing on listening to the customer is like all the little things
go into that, whether it's somebody complaining about or offering feedback about like our marketplace, whether it's an aggregationless thing being down, maybe there's some type of verification that isn't working. Maybe it's a wrong Twitter wallet associated to their
to their wallet address, just listening to people gathering that feedback and making sure your customer consumer is heard. I think that will go the farthest way in Web 3, so that's what I mean by customer cares. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's awesome because that's
exactly how brave it is to this consumer first kind of thing. Even though they have millions of users, they're constantly looking for feedback and accept their feedback from the users, which I can really appreciate on that end.
So, I think the team saw the niche
and just the potential in Solana. I think the attractive thing was the how strong the NFT community was at that time and given the cheaper fees and the scalability of Solana. So we originally started out as sole analysis because we wanted to track NFT
data because nobody was really filling that void. And you know, through that we were developing. We had like kind of the first to market leaderboard system where you could quickly track and analyze trends across like all different NFC projects, whether it's PFP projects or gaming. And
Eventually, we saw kind of this need for aggregation because at the time listings were pretty split amongst all the different marketplace. Magicine hadn't necessarily emerged yet. And it was beginning to be introduced on Ethereum and we were like, "Oh, we could do that on Solana."
So in February we ran into hyperspace and we built this aggregator and focused on optimizing our Salona marketplace before moving to any other chains. And so over the last six months or so we've been really focused on building the best product possible on Salona, optimizing our marketplace.
Yeah, that's awesome. I just want to go on a record and say it was probably last October or so I was in this course Yeah, all those different marketplaces were popping up and it's like man
We need like an aggregator for all this stuff. So I want to say I came up with that idea, but obviously I wasn't the only one. So it's going on record that I had that idea early as well. Just I don't have the means of making a marketplace and
aggregated. So, congrats to you guys for evolving into that. That's awesome. And then before we go too much further, you know, you're talking about Solana and that ecosystem and hip being strong and that's where you guys kind of were.
I thought, hey, this is an image and a need for this space. What are your thoughts on the marketplace overall right now, like going on, obviously, and then in particular with Salada?
Yeah, I mean that's a very broad question. You could dive into a variety of different factors. I would say just overall on bullish on Salona as a community and the developer community specifically and what's being built on Salona. So I think it's a good thing that breakpoint happened before this whole FTX situation.
because what happened at Breakpoint really opens your eyes as to what's being built on Salona and just the potential of it, you know, huge partnerships like Google Cloud, Facebook, Instagram, being associated with Salona.
And then just hundreds of builders combined or just joining together in Lisbon building great quality stuff that sometimes in the near future I think we'll see if the use case is really come to light whether it's gaming or something else, but I think that's
That shows kind of the current state of Solana and this week, especially as people rallied. I would say the support was pretty overwhelming and it's just a reminder that price may be affected right now for these outside reasons but nothing has changed fundamentally with what's being built.
Yeah, well said. Well said. Yeah, I think, you know, obviously it's some pretty big hiccups in the market overall and stuff, but I think in the long run, it's more about the community and the developers and builders. So hopefully that continues.
And we get past it like every other dip and go from there. So, um, all right. Yeah. One other thing, oh, actually one other big thing I wanted to talk about was another kind of big thing within the NFT space, especially on Salona again, is the whole royal tube side.
What do you guys do on that front? For those who don't know, royalties have been a very controversial topic for the last four months.
a marketplace kind of avoiding social contracts, opting for optional royalties where I would say a majority of the users were selecting zero and not paying royalties. And eventually I guess just market share grew from that.
there were two marketplaces predominantly using that. It really caused Magic Ian and I think to think about it and ultimately they selected the direction of going 0% for the time being and I think it's just thrown the market.
in weird flux. So the solutions we've been working on in the current timeframe has been we've worked with Cardinal Labs who have this protocol where creative royalties can be enforced. And when at Hyperspace when we think about like
It's got to be balanced between the creators, the marketplace, and the traders or collectors because that's how you push towards long-term adoption. I think that's what the ultimate goal is. And I think with zero royalties, you're not going to get that long-term adoption with creators.
one of the most unique things that makes like an NFT or I like to say a JPEG and NFT. So just achieving towards that balance and what we've done with Cardinal Labs is kind of we're testing to see what we could do with enforce creator royalties and I would say with the projects
have launched so far. It's been good success. And there's definitely more dialogue and conversations we need to have with, you know, other marketplaces, creators, as well as MetaPlex who have kind of built the initial standard on Solana.
Yeah, so obviously it's a pretty complex issue that has moving parts and different people with different ideas and different interests. I guess it's been a lot of fun.
the watch happens. So, um, and I, I, to be honest, I haven't used hyperplex too much until just very recently, um, because of the NFT launch that we just had and the bat and Adam Ape NFT that
as much as yesterday is, high-press space is one of the only marketplaces that it can be listed on. So I guess that's because you guys require the royalties that the creator set for the projects. Is that right?
Yeah, so we were actually able to host the main yesterday or was he yesterday? Yeah, right? Yeah, it was yeah, yeah, yeah, it's been a long time Yeah, sometimes timing gets confusing when you work about three next days together, but yeah yesterday were able to
to host them in. I believe some users were able to mint off of hyperspace. But I think that's just because it was hosted on Cardinal Labs end. Yeah, so that was cool. That's something that has never been done before. And I think that really shows the composability of Web 3.
So I just think moving forward it's important for creators to have those protections and kind of have those constant revenue stream. If you think of somebody like Adam, he's somebody who's been a creator most of his life and he
He's brought some really unique work to the ecosystem and to just have no source of that, just like that's just wrong. So I think to solve those issues and support creators is something that needs to be solved sooner rather than later.
Yeah, 100% and that's, I know it was a tricky situation, you know, because this all kind of happened as, you know, kind of 11th hour before mid, you know, the oral things began a big issue all of a sudden and I'm glad that they were able to find a way to. I have a question.
based on that. Whenever the zero royalty became a thing, did that cause some trouble or that's not the right word to use, but a lot of dialogue and a lot of conversation going on in the background.
tired right now. Yeah that's that's a big reason why you know it's been you know and you know I wasn't exactly in all of the meetings beforehand but yes it was it was a big turn of events right kind of the 11th hour right
something that had to kind of be overcome because brain is big on creators too. Like battering mentioned earlier is part of that triangle creators is a third of that triangle and they want to do what's right by creators as well.
because they see the importance of creators. So it was definitely a big issue and that's where how Cardinal came into play and how it all kind of went as it went. Otherwise it probably would have come out a little bit earlier and maybe get a little bit easier to do.
So definitely was a big, big issue, yeah, a big thing that threw a wrench in at the last minute for sure. But yeah, but it's good to see that, you know, those tools and those ways of protecting creators and royalties that are coming out and you
was able to have been how it did. So, and I obviously appreciate you guys being there and being able to list on hyperspace as well. So, sure. I'll try to think where I was going after that. It was, we
talking about the royal piece, right? Yeah, so I mean, as far as that goes, it's something that has to be addressed, you know, as soon as hopefully rather the later, although right, right now, it's kind of in the middle of it all, right? So,
What I guess as far as what are you guys doing? You obviously enforce creator royalties, but outside of that you say you're working with Metaplex and the other people in the space to buy those solutions, right?
Yeah, so we've been having active dialogue with them. I'd say this week's been a bit crazy due to FTX, but I think it's just like kind of having a situation like cardinal labs where you're testing it and you know some of the feedback we've gotten is
It works, right? But there are problems with transferring NFTs between some wallets and then it's happened conversations with some of these wallets. Yeah, you know, it's not a perfect fix. Yeah, but it's like I was stepping the right direction. And I would just say the biggest thing we're focusing is
This is like having the conversations with some of the creators and aligning ourselves where you know the solutions will be prominent on Solana because there's been a lot of fear this week and a lot of collections are like "oh we're gonna bridge to East and stuff like that"
I just think that's not as plausible or just like, you can't just turn your back when it's like mass. You gotta work it through the fire and everything. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've seen that.
seeing where you know some projects that we're going to launch once a lot of it decided to go with other ecosystem's app to see been which I mean that's probably a bigger gamble than you know it's a new change and unproven so like yeah it's just kind of a mess as far and I think people are just so you know
At least the ones that aren't truly in it for the long haul or it's kind of finicky, but unfortunately, maybe this is kind of where those diamond hands come out, right? Get forged in the fire, right? Yeah, you had mentioned
transferring it at ease and stuff like that. So this is kind of new to be honest too much with like the hiber space or the coral cubed until yesterday and obviously we've had people ask I can't transfer this you know to my ledger I can't send it to my other counter whatever
So how does that work and what's the solution for that? Are you saying with like transferring like? Like the bat times out of me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's like what I talked about right now is some of the feedback we received from the cardinal labs
royalty protecting is like not all world support it right so I think like if you use backpack and you have your ledger associated like I think that works but not everybody has access to that so it's just like it's not clear and cut yet and I think we need
more cooperation from wallets to make that work. But also the question of like, is this the right solution? I would argue it isn't, but it's like having those conversations got to keep testing stuff to see what works. Yeah. So basically though, the royalty protection
and this allows you just transferring it from one wallet to another, you know, those kind of things, right? And it's as easy as far as it goes from those wallets. Yeah, and currently I believe you can use a tool on hyperspace where like if it's, if
If you own some of the bat times atom apes or you own some of the BBs pods, like some of these collections that have royalty enforcement implemented, you can transfer using our system. But yeah, it's weird.
It's not the right solution, but it's something we need to look into what's right. Yeah, and I think somebody had mentioned that in our discord that they could go through hyperspace to transfer. So it's good to know that option is there for those that were asking about
about that. So, all right, my next question kind of involves more so, I guess you guys see all kinds of NFT projects that come on your, you know, marketplace or in your analysis, you know,
So what do you see this base going? I mean, it's just going to be PIP and a tease for the future. What do you think? I mean, obviously, I don't think I'm like, I want you to think just kind of more personal thoughts and what you think being in your position.
So I believe in NFTs in the future, right? There are a lot of use cases you can apply to it, whether it's gaming, even music. You know, in the future, I think we'll see tickets be NFTs just due to the accessibility with blockchain.
But the situation with FTX is certainly causing a lot of pain and a lot of doubt to those use cases. So I mean hopefully we'll see some type of government regulation. So I look at it with like
I think this presents a lot of opportunity for people because ultimately this is the start of the bear market but it's certainly going to cause prices to be stagnant for
a while. So if people are really bullish and have conviction on crypto, like it's a great time to accumulate. And with NFTs, I think, you know, some of the successes we've seen with like both the theorem and the Sylvanas, just like the power of community and what
can be built within the community. So like if you take boardy-ups and D-gods, you know, there are brands being built within those communities. And I think we'll see that be adopted more over time with which is projects and
general. And you take like brave for example, right? Now you have kind of this community of 2000, maybe not 2500 people, but you know, 2500 NFTs. And there's going to be a community you guys are going to have events, discords, and it's just something like
that will be adopted more by businesses and web-toe companies. Yeah, I really agree with that. I think NFTs for whatever reason have a special ability to help build communities
I think I know batter and center and a tease as well. Maybe he could share some of what he thinks on this. But I think, you know, just brings a different level of activity and excitement and things like that. At least that's what I found. I mean, obviously not all of them.
I don't know, what do you think better? I think it's really accessible to people who aren't in it for the tech. You know, like we all pretend like we like this coin or whatever, because it's, you know, the amazing technology. But everyone can get behind a picture of a monkey, you know?
Right. And of course, Guillermo and let me be part of forget mention that we do always give a pull up out during these spaces. You can get that in our bat brigade discord which is discord.gge/bat brigade and Guillermo.
as an artist and what that brings to artists in this space. Towards artists there was right at the beginning I thought it was pretty cool that we had a space.
to share artboard, etc. But I still prefer when there is a specialty connected to it. So instead of using just SoulJPag, we could use that as a receipt for extra physical art or physical print would be
interesting rather than just having the ones here. But I can understand in terms of value, you know, it's just the search and demand market when there's the JPEGs or the Southern rated artworks that don't have utility.
It's just like an auto token. What I'm mostly bullish on is actually NFT utility and what it can bring them everything going on forward. We have seen some great examples here in spaces of project choosing NFTs as a terms for utility.
And I really want to see what are the possible features for it. Like people said, one of the best and probably most famous NFT artists at Skirmpoint said, you know, it might reach points where NFT will be the next email where everyone will need to use it.
Yeah, it's obviously it's a million different ways it can go and different use cases like that and it's said as well I agree and both of those are good points I think it makes it easier and accessible for people and then also the artist and we just familiar ways
Just want to add a question for our guests. What utility would you seek or would you like to see in the future? Is this something that you have to think about or just curious from perspective, someone works directly with NFTs?
I think the biggest mainstream thing that I would like to see is the ability for revenue share. I think if it really changed the way that startups are just kind of a thing, right? Because like you see
I've seen a few of these sea raises for projects so far after the success of their men, but I think thinking about long-term adoption and just kind of bringing, I guess it's just like a cool
a factor that anybody in the world could have access to it. And you know, if a project is looking to raise, like, you could have shares in that. And that's something where that's just never happened before, right? Like, you could
have a chance to be a part of something great at the beginning. So I'd say revenue shares the biggest one, but that needs more legal loops to, you know, cover, you know, go through.
Thank you. Better than you have a question. This is more something I was going to say before but didn't articulate it. The single best thing about NFTs is you actually have to take self-custody and learn how to use a wallet. You go just park it on an exchange and wait for someone to
rob you. I think that's the best thing. You want to get this picture so you settle, you might lose a couple, then you get a hardware wallet. It teaches people like people who just buy, you can't just buy crypto and keep it on an exchange. That's not crypto. That's just silly.
That's a good point. I'm like, yeah, just give an example. Alex Wise recently, he lost everything on FTX but he still has his EFA rock.
Go ahead, Billy. I will say one thing that excites me right is so when I went to the Seattle Art Fair over the summer I Go around look at all these amazing art pieces and there's a lot of great work done, but just the
There was only one NFT booth in the whole thing and that just made me realize like the potential of artists and the ability they have to kind of build a brand for themselves. Like it, I believe in the creator economy and just being adopted more over time here in
in the next five years and forever longer after that, thanks to the power of social media. But that's something that excites me seeing artists have the ability to market themselves and bring something to market more than ever before.
Yeah, that's a really good point. So much potential. It'll be interesting to see where it all goes for sure. I mean, for what I understand I haven't been, but you know, heart basil or basil, I recall it, and my enemies poses pretty much get overrun within FD stuff and what I understand.
I've heard, like I said, "and so it's definitely getting into that space for sure." I think a big part of that is the royalties right on it. The artist can continue to make money on the work that they did and it's a positive thing.
I just thought batterens comment about just buying, you know, crypto on exchange and leaving it there waiting for somebody still is pretty funny though. Because it seems like that's become in the case. I mean, so many exchanges are, you know, really starting that kind of tumble and everybody's losing money just because they had money sitting there.
kind of ridiculous, but hopefully we learned some lessons and move on from there. So, I'm not forgotten by the next bull market. Yeah, I hope so. Well, I hope that people learn those lessons now, but I guess we'll see. We're still early.
lot of people still to come in and get around as well. We're definitely early but when you're in the deepest darkest depths of the bear market it feels really late. That's true. So Benny, so you mentioned earlier like the gods and the AYC, the
those kind of things. Obviously, those are some pretty special projects. What makes a successful NFT project or what makes a blue chip? What are some of the things that you would say are the main contributing factors? The two biggest things are who's the
founder and the community, those are always the strongest factors in an NFT project reaching the levels of decods or board apes. I think you saw strong leadership with both strong communities with both that will ultimately drive
success. And I think in the future it's just going to be about some of the background of the team and just are they working hard? Are they building software? Are they having conversations with people in the ecosystem? It's more than a full-time job I would say at times, like just for
project founder because it's just you have to work relentlessly to keep kind of the momentum going it's hard to take a lot of days off you know like I'd say it's slight days off in the weekends but like it's not like most of these founders are going for vacations you know like it's just hard for them to
do because they got to maintain the momentum of the project and keep moving forward. So I guess the sum it up, those are the three biggest things is the project founder of the community and the time are just like, are they working hard? You know, they're motivated to do well.
Yeah, a good point. So I guess the art itself is maybe a less important factor. I would say the art is important, right? But it's not the end all. I think it's, I don't know. I guess it's
important and not important right I mean personally I would like it to be important but I've seen some great art projects fail because they didn't have the other things right I was just saying like I guess in general yeah without those yeah without those the art I mean yeah I think you're right
there has been some great art projects that have done well, then like better mentioned we got either rocks. Go ahead, better. I was going to say I think you can kind of divide NFTs kind of between art and the profile pictures that where you tend to have communities more
around the profile pictures whereas the artist something you collect with your profile picture on. Maybe I'm not in the space stuff but I don't think you really get just the book. There's not as many communities under a generative art maybe. So it was just the picture. I'll use the current example. There was this project Critters called that "Launch and Sorn" or
recently and it was great art and it did really well in terms of like floor price going up to like 25 sold like the founders of so on and we're even rocking it but you know like a month later it's just like there's nothing going on with the project so it's like well I mean there's stuff going
It's an art studio, but the moment that's completely lost in the Flores Dow 5. And I think while it is great art, and I still like the art, it's just the community there, like you need the other pieces along with the great art. And I think that's what makes it more successful.
Yeah, I agree. And I mean, just so you know, I guess we didn't really introduce too much of ourselves, but myself, batter and gear and Jenny actually all came up through the, you know, brave and back community and now, you know, working with brave.
But so we know it can be a grind sometimes, especially when you know, markets are down or things like that. So it's definitely, definitely a challenge to keep that momentum going sometimes. And I guess it's just kind of interesting. I wonder what those other projects have done well.
that continue that moment and would have been done versus others that you know just have had a challenge to keep that moment of going. What do you think? Yeah I agree momentum is an important thing and
Like if you even take D-gods and Yut's for example, I think that's who month period where they were waiting to figure out like whether to drop their art or not I think that delayed I don't know I think that the lay was harmful in terms of like
Obviously, they're still well off, but if they timed it a little bit better, I think we'd hear more people talking about it. That's one thing I've been pretty impressed with the gods is, I mean, they've kind of
I've been in a lot of different ways.
So weeks were super active or just like the mentality sometimes among the growth team just to keep going, keep producing the content even if like the market seems bad or keep having those conversations, it'll all accumulate
time and it's just like an exponential growth chart is the way we look at it. Yeah, great. And I mean, that's, you know, what happened with us yesterday, right? I mean, that, you know, Salana was, you know, literally, you know, shit in itself. And, you know, months
bunch of people in the discord ask hey you guys got a watch during this you know the post-pollum you know delay you know is it yeah no we're gonna we're gonna keep building we're gonna keep going all time things we're just gonna go with it we go ahead that better to quote Confucius if you take like a step every day as long as you don't stop you'll get there in the end
Yeah, that's bottom line. Keep progressing towards where you want to go and eventually get there.
That was me figure it's trying to figure out how to put my hand down. I'm trying it versus the whole interrupting method. That's all good. And also want to open up a few things.
everybody has questions in the audience and they feel free to request and ask questions in the meantime. Benny, what can we expect from hyperspace in the near future and the next long-term bills? What can you guys have coming out?
Yeah, I think at the end of the day we're still focused. The main objective is to build the best product, build the best swan marketplace, optimize it. Not everything is like complete yet. I believe we have a great product.
There's just a lot of different things you can do, a lot of different product design to think about. So that would be the number one overall goal. I would say the second thing is just aligning yourselves with those creators. So the way we look at things at home,
It's just the goal of Web 3 is like, you know, if they can use our APIs to build cool shit, that's a positive to us, that's a positive to the space, and it's just that triangle, right? It's just like, I've always said the circle, but I guess it is a triangle, you know, between custom
the market place and creators. So achieving balance between that and ultimately when balance is between that it's going to push the ecosystem forward, it's going to push towards adoption at the end of the day that's the goal.
Yeah, tell us. So when you say API, so what kind of stuff are we talking about here that people are using? Yeah, so a lot of the times people use our APIs for historical data on Salona. So a project.
like I'll say I'm going to write out parrots, they use our APIs to build this copy trading tool or just as well as allow people to see
to see prices across all marketplaces and get notified when something's like on sale. So just simple stuff like that, and there are a lot of other people using our APIs for different stuff, similar to that.
So have we got any questions from the floor tonight? Just raise your hand up. I'm going to ask the speak.
for you when no Jedi.
Now we have some people from the audience who came up to speak great now I want to welcome to the stage Chop Sui and that boys What's going on? Hey, what's up everyone? Can you hear me? Hey, how's it going? Well, thanks for having me up
Congratulations on the sellout. My main question here had to do with that phase two part of the mint, which I thought was super cool regarding like the mint with the BAT tokens. So I actually didn't know that there was a SPL version of that and I sent all my BAT tokens.
to my coinbase wallet and realize that that wasn't connected with my discord. So I couldn't admit. But ultimately, it brought up the question of whether or not there's going to be a bridge inside the wallet for the VAT token to be chosen on which chain to be sent to.
Yeah, sorry I had a call coming in and messed up my whole audio back. Most like what I think so And it sucks that you weren't able to I met with that. Sorry about that. It was a little bit of a mess, but especially a big big part of being able to get the SPL
bat was FTX. Of course that completely went crap the day before. It was like everything we're kind of against all odds on everything in this, this whole thing. So it was really kind of crazy. But yeah, in the wallet there's a swap feature in the Brave Wallet.
there's a small feature. I don't think the liquidity is there yet, but it's coming. And then also I know Orca is live now with liquidity and I think maybe some other places coming here soon. And before the launch,
And the Brave Wallet they have partnered with RAMP so that you can buy crypto for your bank account, credit card, those kind of things. And that was offering SPL back until it all got bought up because of the men.
So it was a little, a little funky. I mean, obviously a lot, a lot to learn, a lot of things that had never happened before with that meant. And, but yeah, also a lot more coming very soon, as far as being able to get a spiel bad and hopefully use a spiel bad. Yeah, I hope that answered the question.
Yeah, totally no thank you. That was a great answer. I appreciate it. Oh, and you're the one that's wrote the media article or thing, right? I did. You know, I was getting so tired of hearing about SPF. I was like, I need to do something positive. I was happy to do it. Yeah, it was awesome. I read that and
I just, you guys didn't pay me anything. I know this is like a recorded space. I just honestly is super big fan of brave and shout out to Nikki for really turning me on to that and making sure that like I fully know the ins and the
out of everything between the shields and how to use the developer mode. You guys are killing it man. Really happy to even write that out. Thanks for noticing. Yeah, love love love it man. And then Nikki of course is awesome to amazing. It's a love and place true true. Yeah, brave warrior down there. See you. Right off.
Yeah, I appreciate you man. Hey, and Loki shout out to dad boys who's up here right now. I'm holding a bag of those dude. I love that boy. So I'd love to hear what he has to say. Yes, let's hear it, dad boys. How are you guys doing this fine evening or morning wherever you are doing well? What's up?
I just had a quick question for hyperspace. Are you guys doing a wave of API access soon?
I just feel that I request that because I just joined right as you were talking about it and I was like, "Oh man, I should ask about that." So are you giving access to any new people? Yeah, we're always giving access to new people. I would say just we take it slow these days with requests.
just do the I guess you know you know what I mean but I'll make a mention that you guys applied right is it just that boys yeah it should be with the domain so I know you have to enter your domain for it so it should just be that boys all right sounds
I'll make that up. I'll make sure to read the MPM to you on on that voice. Yeah, hurry it up. Also shut up, Brave. You guys are dope too. I'm about to head into the store. So I'm a I'm a promote myself to listen to. Thank you. I appreciate you, that boy is always and that. Yeah, we're
Brought up Nikki should request you got something Nikki. I just wanted to add that in apologies. I seem to have the was been flew so I just wanted to add on to what I said in my tweet yesterday you guys are amazing the community was amazing yesterday So we thank you all for joining us and coming along this journey. I know there are times
questions about utility, I promise we're going to get those answered for you all soon and get that information public. So thank you all for writing with us. Thank you all for minting in these kind of conditions. It really means so much to us. Yes, it's 100% you never know how many
going to go, especially in a crazy market conditions like it was. So it's a great chill in the sea that it went well and loved that the support from Hygrist base is being able to list on you guys marketplace. Yeah, any last words or things you want to point people to or things like that, Benny?
Just check out our site. If anybody ever has problems, send it to me, drop a DM. I'm always able to respond or just like relay the messaging. We have a bugbass channel in our Slack where we solve problems pretty quickly.
- Good, Adam. - It looked like Aaron Yacker had something to say.
Yeah, sorry. I just have a question about the NFT. I'm quite new to it. My question is I noticed a bit of a backstory. I noticed that the artwork is stored on an Amazon cloud service. If that cloud
service disappears in the future, let's say like 50 years, what happens to the artwork of the NFT? Will that still remain on other websites like hyperspace, etc? Or will it just show up as a blank image?
That is a good question. I mean, as far as I know, it's on the blockchain, right? I guess the kind of when you see it's on the AWS or whatever, where were you looking at on that?
I'm not at home right now, but I did see I just I just dive deeper into the into the you looking on like like a soul scan or what we were looking at.
I can't remember. I remember I just kept on navigating through different pages. You know what? Let me I don't know that off the top of my head. I'm not the tech guy, but I'll look into it. You're in our server. So I'll get in touch with you and we'll get
answer for you on that for sure. Could be a great question for for look mocks on on Tuesday's community call. They all have technical people recognize that can I say? Brains a big fan of IPFS is on there so it could be on that but I
I couldn't answer for certain evils. Luke's the man to ask you correct. Yeah, yeah, we'll try to check for you if not. Yeah, we can ask on Tuesday's community call that we have every week. So yeah. But appreciate the question. Anything else?
Okay, all right. Well, yeah, I think we're about time up here. Really appreciate appreciate you coming on, Benny and tell us about hyperspace. I know I've been checking it out as the back, now I'm ape.
and I was climbing up the top 10 spots on the volume of the day so I was definitely checking and refreshing that a few times. It's been fun to watch and I'm excited to see you guys.
to get to use and learn a little more about your stuff and what you've got going on. Look forward to working with you guys here in the future. I really appreciate you coming on and taking your time.
Yeah, for sure it was a pleasure to be here and I look forward to seeing what you guys do with the attention token. I think it's exciting. Yeah.
Let's talk again sometime soon. Yeah, for sure. And you're here in TASA with, uh, right Carlos and guys, some of the other guys. So we'll definitely keep in touch and really appreciate everybody else here that, you know, everybody's showing up and listening to us.
up here every you know better and here thanks for being here as well and everybody else contributing Nikki Viking thanks for coming. All right we'll see you guys I guess next week and next to her space until then have a have a great weekend and everybody take care.
Thank you, bye. Bye. Thank you. Bye. See you guys. And sorry, Nick, if we're getting you sick. Good job.

FAQ on In THE BAT CAVE with Hyperspace — SOL NFT Marketplace & Aggregator | Twitter Space Recording

What is Brave?
Brave is a browser that blocks creepy ads and trackers by default and utilizes the basic attention token as a unit for the attention economy.
What is the main purpose of basic attention token?
The main purpose of basic attention token is as a unit for the attention economy and as the first global private ad platform.
How can users earn basic attention token?
Users can earn basic attention token in exchange for their attention through opt-in rewards on the Brave browser.
What is a brave content creator?
A brave content creator is someone who creates content and can receive back tips via a little thing at the top on the Brave browser.
How do advertisers benefit from basic attention token?
Advertisers benefit from basic attention token because they get a better return since it is harder than regular ads and when using Brave, it is the only ad users see, thus eliminating competition.
What are some other use cases of basic attention token?
Other use cases of basic attention token include rewards or utility for search on Brave search, ecommerce, and IPFS.
What parties are represented in the basic attention token ecosystem?
The three parties represented in the basic attention token ecosystem are users, brave content creators, and advertisers.
What is the long term goal of basic attention token?
The long term goal of basic attention token is to be used as a unit of currency across all chains in the same way that gas tokens are currently used.
What problem is basic attention token trying to solve?
Basic attention token is trying to solve the problem of the attention economy by being a unit for the attention economy and fixing the message that is digital advertising.
What is Hyperspace?
Hyperspace is a platform for social audio and is working to bridge the gap between current social media and podcasting platforms.