INFINITE Scalability - Solving Scale with Aurora & NEAR 🌎

Recorded: May 10, 2023 Duration: 0:53:39

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Good morning GM GM everybody. Today we're going to be talking about infinite scalability and solving scale with Aurora.
and here, we're gonna take the first few minutes of this space to invite our speakers to introduce themselves to everybody. Hack Boy, do you wanna start us off?
Sure, how are you? I'm Boris Polania. I'm a deffraile in a rota. I've been working in blockchain for a few years now and right now I'm helping a rather protocol to grow and to bring more developers and projects into the platform.
amazing. Thank you so much for introducing yourself. David, do you want to go next? Yeah, absolutely GMG, AGNG, whatever, something you want to stick on the end of that beautiful world, good morning people. My name is David. I am the head of social media
at the near foundation. I've been in crypto for too long. I am only 21 years old and I'm starting to go a great, and I'm not actually 21 anymore, unfortunately. But yeah, thrilled to be here, guys. Nice to be on the other end of a Twitter space for once.
We're really glad you're on the other end too. You're bringing a lot of energy. Thanks so much and the deer. Do you want to go next? Yeah, thank you. Hi guys. Yeah, very glad to be here. I'm the co-founder of PikeSpeak, which is a data and analytics solution built
top of near and I've been within the near ecosystem for the last three years and before Pike speak I was the PMF Ref Finance for one year and a half which is the main decks on near.
Thank you so much for joining us. And before we get started, I want to check with you guys. Is this space going to be one where you'd like questions to come up?
or should we save those for the next one? If people request to speak, I notice we have one right now, so I just wanted to see if we're going to be doing that in this space or save it for the next.
I mean, for my side guys, you can ask me any question if I don't know the answer. I'll give you a politician's answer. So I'm completely easy.
Sounds good. I'm fine anyway.
That speaker did remove the request, but if anybody else wants to come up at any point, if you've got questions, definitely feel free. Also, want to create space, GJ from Flopside just joined us. GJ, do you want to give a quick introduction to the crowd?
I'm at Flipside and I'm also on the council metric style which has done a ton of work putting near blockchain data, uh, and security tables making them available and then spending up a widget generation machine for the boss. So a lot of my work is
has been working with our analyst community and our dev community on some of the blockchain operating system stuff and just building up an engine to be able to build on that and produce on that. Otherwise, I kind of just follow David across the world to various near events but never quite. Right?
into him. So David, pleasure to meet you virtually. Otherwise, TLDR near on chain data analytics and widget creation and just trying to keep the best analysts in the world plugged into the best near data that's out there.
Thanks so much, GJ for joining us. So we've got a brief that I think everybody's received, but I do want to reiterate that this is just a sort of general guide. We can definitely take this conversation in any direction you guys want today. So I'm going to kick us off with this first question, but where we go is
completely up to you guys today. So yeah, how are Aurora and Near working together right now on making the blockchain seen greener more eco-friendly? And sort of yeah, what's going on right now in terms of the eco state of Near and Aurora?
Yeah, I'm happy to jump in on the near side of things guys and then Anybody else can deliver better answer than I can but look I think you know near is Fundamentally greener than a lot of blockchains, right? I mean, that's just part of the proof of stake consensus mechanism however
since, well, almost since inception, NIO has been completely carbon neutral. We do that by working with an organization called South Pole, where we essentially work with common credits to ensure that the little emissions that the validators produce and that the NIA Foundation produces
services that they get offset. So we actually get sent a survey. I'm not sure how many people know this week. If you work with any foundation who says you have to fill out this form takes 20 minutes, those in my mess. And you fill out how much of your travel you've done, you've done a call, that car leads to a certain amount of coverage.
credit and those common emissions are then offset. But what is really exciting, I think, is not just what the Foundation is doing, but projects building on near doing. So if anybody is familiar with all forests, that is essentially an eco-friendly project, which has been around the year since
Before my time, so probably almost two years if not longer and they essentially map out our station areas all around the world and it's all tracked on-chain and it's being used by governments. So if you head to that website you can check that out in a little bit more detail that's open for us.
protocol and then everybody missed it which I can't see how you did. Neo Foundation partnered with Flo Carbon to actually make the near-course incident become carbon negative so the future is bright, the future is green and of course the future is near.
You said earlier that other people could give a better answer than you, but I think you pretty much knocked that one out of the park. Does anybody else want to address the eco-friendliness of how Aurora fits in or other thoughts on near itself?
Yeah, I agree with you that it's hard to improve on David's answer, but Aurora is a ledger to on top of near. They say that we can often
for the same kind of carbon neutrality transactions as any near transactions. So we are on top of the same protocol, so it applies the same for us.
All I had just as a lover and a user of near not an official capacity. I came out of the solar industry. I worked in renewable energy for some time before getting into the crypto game and sustainability goes
It's empowering communities to be able to build, it's transparency and reporting, it's building for the future, it's establishing a common good. So a lot of what attracted me to near the further down the rabbit hole I went are the values.
and a shared vision of making things that will last empowering people to work with each other in communities to build with each other. A lot of that is part and parcel of enabling true sustainability in addition to all the great work from
and for us from others and the low carbon partnership. That's the really matters. I definitely don't want to take away from it, but there's so much more that goes into driving genuine sustainability. And I think that goes back to a mission and vision level and that's something that the near community really does a fantastic job with.
And just to add a funnel piece on that brilliant print, GJ, if you want to take it literal, the Aurora logo is green. And as of recently, the Neo logo is green. So hey, you can't get much green in that.
can't dispute those facts. So yeah, just sorry to interrupt, just maybe to have something on that like from a project perspective, I think Aurora is not only well because Aurora is actually a smart contract on near as they
it said. But I think there's also a very close, like there's a very strong bridge between near and Aurora in terms of projects and communities. So basically if you're building on near, I will give you, well, less than a week before you will
get an introduction to the Aurora guys and see what could happen there, what you can do on Aurora. So I think the near and Aurora communities are really working together on the project side and I've been experiencing that with refinance for example
But what we need to see more maybe is you know like some some composability between near and Aurora and refineries doing that with some cross-mart contract calls where you actually From your near account you can do an action within the Aurora
smart contract which makes it very interesting and a strong differentiator compared to Rotation. In fact, the relationship between Aurora and Nier is just not on the business side. There is a low level integration.
between, you know, the both protocols are we we have tools that allow you to talk to connect Aurora near contracts from the Aurora site and the other way, right? We have this case.
Of course the bridge, but you know the integration is a is a low level technical integration as well. And so you can you can you can achieve a lot by by running your whatever contracts you have in in Aurora you can call them from near
or vice versa, you can you can you can stake near from a road or from near wallets. So the integration is on on multiple levels, not only on the business side, it's a full technical and multi-level integration between both protocols.
Let's hone in a little bit on that from the builder perspective actually. So, you know, near is attractive to builders alone for its sustainability, right? You go friendly, that's. But as GJ mentioned,
The environment, the vibe, the community, the commitment that you find once you're there is also really enticing. And then Aurora making development on near, simple, fast and affordable, but how well does all
of that scale. How when a builder, you know, a team shows up and wants to launch on near or build with Aurora, what are some of the sort of standout benefits that Bill first noticed?
I can talk to an Aurora part. So, I mean, if you come as an Aurora developer, as an EVN compatible developer and want to bring your application to the next level, we have, we
We've been working in creating a set of tools that allows you not only to get benefits, but the near network has, but we are working on top of that to give you an
Another set of tools. For example, we just released what is Auditor Cloud. It has a series of tools that allows you to take control of the gas that the users pay. You can even have zero gas transactions for your project.
You can have control who access to your applications. You can do KFC. We are, you know, soon we will release in the order of pass that is a wallet that led you to gas loss transactions and for a lot of
related transactions. So we are trying to scale in many aspects, but from the user experience, we have a focus on user experience. We expect these to be a good attract
for Web2 projects, then see that the existing user experience for blockchain is not the one they want for the users. So this is a way we want to, you know, we are working on improving.
I would let David talk about from the new foundation side. Absolutely. So you know, the topic of the talk is infinite scalability.
we can get our phones out and we can pack them with a ton of weed and we can hit them, we can talk about, you know, whether or not infinite scalability really exists. And like, is anything truly infinite? That's for a force of a dancer, not me. I think for a technical point of view, nothing is truly infinite.
But it's scalability to and probably in excess of what any project requires a technical point of view. So for those of you who aren't familiar, NIA has a pretty innovative novel where of scaling the chain. It's called Nightshed of the
that's the the code word for it. It's the type of dynamic resharing which should be implemented fully. Hopefully if we can see the roadmap and by way I mean the product theme by the end of the year I've got full confidence that they will essentially allows the number of validers to increase and decrease depending on
three-bottom network. So you have this super hot video launches is his feet NFT collection. Everybody wants a pick. Soon they they pile on. There's a million transactions of course there is. Well the number of
And the level would actually would actually increase to manage that three-fold from a builder's point of view going back to Boris's points. I've missed it. We released the JavaScript SDK earlier on in the year version 1.0. It was actually launched I guess on in beta.
last year. So that actually opens the door to like 25 million JavaScript developers around the world. But I have to mention this final bit. Otherwise, they'll sack me. The operating system is indeed now live on near dot all get it's gone out.
to taking the main place on our website now. If you're a developer, head to the developer section, click around and you'll see immediately the beauty of what this product essentially is. So you can find all of the apps, the front ends, the decentralized front ends that have been
and you can click a button and immediately just as fast as you can get water out of a tap or a faucet if you're American, you can start to fork somebody else's code and start building it to suit your project immediately. You don't have to worry about AWS, you don't have
to worry about hosting, you don't have to worry about any of that because it's all sold almost at the protocol there, right? And I think that that's actually a magnificent thing, not just for individuals and teams who are building projects, but for companies who are looking to branch out into the world of Web 3 as well.
There's a lot of good information in this thread. I've just pinned it up on the top near the announcement of the blockchain operating system. I'm seeing here, you know, fully composable apps on-chain chat, which is really interesting. Dev tooling obviously. And yeah, this is a great thread to go through. I'd recommend everybody who
has not seen it, click that link at the top. Give it a quick retweet if you are feeling like your audience might appreciate that. But yeah, so in terms of builders, if we can hone in a little bit deeper even on this conversation while we're on it, what would you say from nearest perspective?
is the ideal developer, the ideal team. What sorts of projects is mere looking forward to onboard or is it still pretty general in that everybody benefits? Yeah, I mean it's a general purpose blockchain, right?
it gets are literally open for anyone and everyone who wants to build. But in terms of the foundation strategy, I'm not sure how much I'm allowed to leak, but I'm going to if I can do it anyway. There's definitely a focus on this on this Web 2.5 niche, right? So if you take a look at some of the
most recent partnership announcements, you'll start to get a feel for that. I'll give you an example, Groupon Nutresser, which is, I believe, the largest supermarket brand in South America. They were looking for a better way to reward their customers, you know, how
If you're in the UK, Tesco do ClubCard and I went into a Mercedes in New York, they have some bullshit card they tried to sell me All of that is off-channel, all of that is weak and all of that doesn't provide the same value that Web3 does so Groupon are trusted with undoubtedly millions of millions of millions of customers around the world
have gone ahead and chosen near as their place to build not just for the technical points that we spoke about earlier, but I also think how incredible the near community is and how much that can draw people into this tech and you know did hear Boris
GJ, these guys are just scratching the surface of it, it's brilliant as you all are. And finally, another example of that, Shamaru, I don't know if there's any Indian listeners here, but Shamaru is the largest or one of the largest media entertainment brands in India.
They have about 200 million subscribers across all of their products, which when you think about it is actually remarkable. And they are about to explore and see how they can engage their audience using the ASTECH. But if you want my personal opinion, I'm still a
DJI, I still want the bucket 100X leverage, Yeet, Yolo, D5 protocols whether they're on Aurora or NIA. I want the ridiculous NFTs, I want everything. But from the foundation side of things, yeah, it's definitely 2.5 and a real focus on Web 3 Builders as well.
Well, just really quickly, part of how we get there, I fully agree with the scratching the surface comments and part of the way we go one level deeper is by empowering local communities. I'm thinking of the analyst community that we built on our side at Metrix Dow and there have been
to participate based on the tech that we've built in challenges to claim analytics challenges to do results to have that all reviewed and all on chain. The ability to do that through the boss and the composability that that enables the ability to establish your own gateways. It's just a much more
are friendly experience, a much more participatory experience, it's well documented. And so I'm very, very excited to see the collaboration that that enables. And you know, the values of composability and transparency, they're easy to talk about, they're really hard to do.
agree with each other. They don't want to collaborate all the time. There's plagiarism. There's this. There's that. But we solve this by building out in the open by building in public, that you're locating disputes as a community, and all of that requires tech. And near is taking huge strides to build the tech. So from that perspective,
I think when we can empower communities across time, across jurisdictions, across the world to build on top of what everybody else is doing and have a common language and a common economic framework, which is tokens, but also a common set of values, that's when you really start seeing some of the magic happen.
Yeah, from the Roto site, we also focus on the web to trying to bring more web to projects. That's mostly what about a cloud is, right? We're trying to make it easier for web to projects to jump into Web 3 just basically.
basically by making them easier to give better user experiences. That's something that we are looking at. Regarding the kind of projects we're open-general to any, I don't think we have a specific preference. Of course, we
want to see the defies the games, the whole thing, but we are definitely open to other stuff. Also from the community side we have been doing a tremendous effort and I think it's starting to show on how we can bring communities all over the world. We have a growing community in Asia and Latin America
hopefully we want to keep going in the United States. So yeah, that's and we are very, you know, looking forward to what those communities are bringing into this. We recently we have done the hacketons, we have brought, we already have an
some of the projects that were launched in the hackathon and the Metapult team, for example, is doing an excellent job and they are already launching the mainnet soon. So yeah, we are open to any kind of projects and we would like to come them from the multiple communities.
Yeah, and I think like one of the great illustrations of that happening right now on the blockchain is actually a sweat, so sweat economy. So I don't know if you've heard about it or, but it's it's truly amazing what's happening, right, because it's it's basically a web to
company. So you walk and then you earn the sweat token and then you can experience like a Web2 environment where you have access to e-commerce and then you can you know swap those sweat token to get I don't know like a certain object for example
poll or subscribe to a service. But the thing that is truly amazing in this model is that those, I think, yeah, those six million plus sweats users, they're actually using the near blockchain without even noticing something
the blockchain side because they basically delegate those transactions to the sweat project. And I think here he's a clear example of oh the blockchain can solve problems such as micro payments really true
ownership of your loyalty, whatever, but this is a clear example. And then the question, whether those users jump into Web3 because they can take ownership of their assets and then do something on the blockchain,
is actually true, but they don't need to do that, right? And actually, we see a very low conversion from those web-to-sweb users to the web-3 ecosystem on here at the moment, which is, I think, less than one person conversion. So we have still, like, a huge step of, you know,
converting the users, telling them that they have access actually to those applications and they have access to, well, the value proposition of a blockchain which is also composability. But what is happening with sweat is truly amazing and it's actually happening on year.
That's an interesting sort of portion to of blockchain users is the ones who don't know that they're using blockchain. And in terms of, you know, David mentioned Web 2.5, right? I think we're at this point in crypto where the tech is getting far enough
and people are familiar enough for web2 organizations to understand enough of it to want to transition. And the text text are accommodating. People are talking about how with the cloud, it's so much more accessible for
for organizations to make that transition. But if we can hone in on the user specifically, what are some challenges maybe still facing non-web3 users today? Some obstacles keeping them from becoming web3 users, and how can we help them overcome that?
essentially a question of adoption is what do we do next in terms of increasing adoption? How are Aurora near in the platforms built on them sort of working toward that? No, that's a brilliant question actually and it's a very apt question because we have actually done some studies
and servers with people in and out of the new community very recently and we've got some consumer insights. And I'm going to take a few, take you through a few of them and let's see if we can unpack them and see what the solutions are together. I'm Adlibbing, so let's see how it goes.
One of the consumer insights was if I had better information, I'd likely make different choices. This pertains to the world of Web 3 and crypto and decentralized tech. So I still think personally that there are some people out there that haven't quite realized the value of decentralization.
an old adage that says decentralization doesn't matter until it does and then it fucking matters a lot. So we need to convince people, perhaps comments isn't the right word, we need to educate people on not just the value of Web 3 but the toxicity of Web 2. This old notion that as soon as you sign up
Facebook or Twitter or Instagram or whatever social media you want, almost any website you want, they then begin to own what is a fundamental part of you, right? Your desire. So why do you essentially hand this out free of charge for the mild convenience of being able to see a picture of your aunties
lead dog which she is posted with a love poem on Facebook right like all of that is possible you can still do that but you can still be the owner and the proprietor of your data and if you turn around and you say hey I want to sell this data to advertisers then you should be able to do that and you
should get paid for it. The first one, if I had better information, I'd like to make different choices. That's really balls down to education. I don't think that the onus for this relies solely on the near foundation. It does to some aspect, but it's really about the entire
Weftrey world right everybody who's building this tech should also be doing what they can to educate people about it right when Henry Ford built the fucking First commercial car everybody said I don't want to fucking ride that car. I've got my horse. We don't need a car for But sure enough everybody's riding
So I think it's going to take a very similar trajectory. Then the second one is nobody wants to dance on an empty dance floor. So what does that really mean? People often make a change when they see other people start doing the same thing. So most people will start using technology.
when they feel it's becoming inevitable that that's the default. You can see that that happens a lot on social media, right? Everybody moved to Facebook because some people moved to Facebook first and my space died. Everybody moved to TikTok because some people said you can TikTok first and then Vine died. So that's
really about building up the momentum and this I think really relies on the builders in the world of Web 3 to build the projects and the tools and the apps that people want to use and didier to your point sweat kind is an incredible example. I know you mentioned they have like six million users. I actually think they have a hundred
$120 million signed up and they have somewhere around 50 or 60 million active and out of those I think 14 million have a near wallet now, right, which is insane and in of itself. So it's clear that that works. And then the final insight was when I make a change, I want to feel good about it, right. It's difficult to take
people aware from the lifestyle to make changes to their life unless they feel like they're going to feel better after they've met that change. There seems to be a lot of negatives withness and technologies like NIA. So it's really better to see how they pan out before you
using them. I think that's a thought process that we garnered from these servers and from speaking to people. What we want to do at the foundation is we want to encourage an affirmative action. If you start using near, if you start using particular projects that are on near as opposed to that
to counterparts, then we can guarantee that you will have a better self today and a better self tomorrow and even better in 12 months, 24 months. But that's a really wide question and that was a really long answer, but I appreciate it.
From a technical point of perspective and a drizzle experience, I think one of the barriers is the fees, right? The gas. It's been an issue when you know, you don't understand what to have to pay gas.
They don't get it or they don't want to know about it. So if you want to keep, and the users are, you know, used to interact with apps and software in a particular way, and the gas, the fees change a little bit at the end. So if we can fix
And that was something we were trying to fix in Aurora, the how gas is paid and processed through the user experience and application that would be a good improvement. So games at the beginning, every time you interact with the game, you have
to go and prove a transaction, a meta-bass and stuff like that. So if that part can be fixed and this something we're working heavily on fixing through meta-transactions and older business, etc. it's something that it will clear some of the obstacles for adoption.
Yeah, I totally agree on the gasping which makes me think about something crazy right because when we have a look at Etherum and it's always the same story the same narrative every you know I wouldn't say bullish cycle but when there's a demand when there's a decent amount of activity there then the gas is crazy
and people start to be mad about it. But the Shen actually still has like 10 million monthly active users/adresses. So it's kind of crazy. Actually a good graph would be depending on the gas cost on the east, how many new
new wellets are created for example on Aurora or other, you know, L-trues, even, you know, L-ones. But I think this is something I don't have the answer but I would be like keen to understand why people still keep, you know, signing
transaction on Etherum and pay high on the $100 to close a position and stuff. So I think that could be interesting, but just to answer your first question about how do we solve the next wave of adoption, I think for me account abstraction will be something very
powerful because for the first time we can project, can subsidize, you know, the user experience. Well, you want to try my app, you're not going to sign any transaction because I'm going to pay for you. I'm going to pay the transaction fees for you and then you can interact with my app. You can do as many transactions as you want.
And then after that, if you are convinced, then obviously you're going to pay, but you're going to, you know, I actually give you the opportunity to discover the app and then stay afterwards. So I think account abstraction is something very powerful and at near, we have
actually a very interesting project called Kippom, which is working on that. And then Kippom is a smart contract, but on top of that you have a sharp dog, which is the front end foundations of this account abstraction stuff. So I'm very excited about those
development. And the second thing for me, but that's maybe only me. I don't know if David you saw that in the different surveys, is, you know, self-custody. Because I think self-custody is quite painful, right? If you have, you know, a decent amount of money on Shen, then
you ask yourself serious questions about well where I'm going to store my secrets if something happens to me then what the fuck can my wife get something out of that? Well actually no. So I think social recovery and Vitalik try to solve the problem a few
years ago but we haven't solved the self-custody problem. How do we, if something happens, how my family or close friends can get access to my account and recover the accounts? That would be my two-take.
There's a lot of good, very, very common obstacles that you just addressed. I mean, account abstraction being a huge part of the matter right now, definitely important. Also, you know, David mentioning in the user feedback that, you know, if people had better
information, then they would make different decisions and education being critical. I know GJ over at Metrics.au you guys are working on a lot of that front with insights and obviously at Flipside we specialize in better information, right data.
Making sure that that's accessible to everyone and then that there's communities of people who are dedicated to. You know spreading that information sharing that information and equipping the average user to be more informed and safer ultimately on these protocols.
It has those two facets right with Ethereum being too expensive, but even a penny of gas, you know, for a user who doesn't understand why gas has to exist, can be a definite hurdle. So I can see where account abstraction would be massive.
So we've sort of addressed some primary obstacles to the users. What about when it comes to enterprise adoption, right? Web2 breaking into Web3. Are there any emerging trends that you guys are noticing or innovations that are making it easier for, you know, existing enterprise
companies to sort of shift over into near Aurora that ecosystem and get onboarded relatively quickly.
I think it's kind of the same problem, right? You know, I think Web2 projects will jump into Web3 as long as they see that the user experience for their clients is good enough, right? So from that point of view,
Actually, most of the Aurora Cloud, the silos and the Aurora Business is a business strategy. We believe that if businesses can provide a better user experience, they will jump. They will be more open to use
Web-3 technologies in their traditional pipeline. So I think that from that perspective, there is the... We are trying to innovate in that direction. Other, you know, other, other probably hurdles
on the enterprise adoption and with clear could be a regulation and stuff like that but you know it's a little you know that goes with the industry you know but from from the technical part I think the kind of structure and and the and the way we the
We had to face between a rod and near. It's powering the rod a cloud thing and we strongly believe it's a very good option for those beings that's trying to move from Web 2 to Web 3.
Should people be on the look? Yeah, I was saying on the enterprise side of thing. I think it's quite intriguing, right? Because we have had so many examples in the past. We have had, you know, Corum, R3-Cord, or Ipollegiofabric.
And it's I don't know if it's too early for enterprises. I don't think so. I think all our cloud is you know such a smart move. There is actually the content network now that has you know emerged, which is if I'm not, which is like a Goldman Sachs
Goldman Sachs, Microsoft Initiative. So I think the enterprise narrative is still here. And we'll, I mean, all the tokenization narrative will come at the end because I mean, there are so more, I mean, there is such a value proposition for, you know, the tokenization of different assets.
on the blockchain. So I still believe that this is happening. I think Kalimero network is also very well positioned within the near ecosystem to address those problems and to solve those problems for companies. I just think that the sales cycle is longer for enterprises. So we
We see all those technologies, but we will see the first implementations in maybe three, six months one year. So, yeah, I'm intrigued to see what's up, what will happen there. On my side, I'm very excited about everything still related to payments and how
crypto can be used as a breach and the second thing is everything related to ticketing, right? And sitlabs is also doing that on year. So if you want to organize a concert or even like football tickets, I mean you can use the blockchain because you can
control, you can obviously control the supply, but you can also control the secondary market. So I think there is a very strong value proposition. I'm just waiting for those partnership announcements and actual data on the blockchain on that side, which is something that is lacking at the moment.
Or at least we speak, I'm not seeing the data related to that at the moment on the enterprise side. Yeah, regarding what you just mentioned, I mean, there has always been this, I started my journey into into blockchain development in
considering in a big company. So there is always this conversation with if the future of enterprises private blockchains or pool of blockchains. So what we are trying to achieve in Aurora is that you don't have to
You can go the way of private lockchains but you don't have to go the way you know to hyperlager or cord or something like that. Using silo you can deploy on top of a pool lockchain as near a rota and then you can control who access your
your silo and making effectively a private blockchain. So it's an integrated solution. It can be hybrid, right? So some parts are probably some parts of private. So I think this is a more smarter
approach instead of having to move all your organization into hyperlayer for example that is a completely different approach I mean it's same same core technology but different approach from going to a public blockchain if you go like
in some like silos, you can have the best of both of them and doesn't have to put a bet all on a single technology stack. So that's, yeah, I think that's what the benefit is going through our silos.
It's a really good point. I know that a lot of web to companies, enterprises, whether they're large size enterprises or smaller companies still want to hold on to a certain degree of control with their products and their infrastructure, which makes
You know, plenty of sense and that could be difficult in early stage, you know, watching based solutions, but I think at this point, thankfully, you know, a lot of these solutions are now being built out that give you that degree of control in terms of
Aurora's near future. Do you want to comment on anything people should be watching out for any, basically any upcoming announcements, any partnerships in the works, or any other things that you wanted to highlight for people?
Well, from the roadside, we're always working on
on partnerships. I mean, regarding Blanche, I think the the the cloud is just a very recently and some of the components like the Rota Pass wallet is not out there. It will be really soon. So you
you can look forward to it to see the ROTAPAS to be released. And in part of the chips we are constantly working on and now there are plenty of a few web2 companies looking into the ecosystem and probably will have the
launch in Aurora soon and we keep your eyes open but we are constantly there is a huge effort bringing more and more projects and not just simple projects but more innovative projects into Aurora.
from the from the neocided things guys listen I can't sit here and spout alpha and alpha and alpha alpha alpha alpha as much as I would love to but what I will say is that you must keep an eye
on Twitter page, which is at near protocol is in the chat. It's also one of the pen tweets. There's plenty of announcements in the pipeline. But the biggest piece of news, which I'm sure you haven't missed, is really the evolution of near from just still there
one blockchain to the blockchain operating system. I would encourage everyone to do as much digging into that as you can. Our backers, the founders, the users, the people that we've spoken to at the events that we've showcased that have had nothing but incredible feedback.
And I would like to remind everyone that it's still early. I know that that's a bit of a trope in the world in Web 3, but in regards to this blockchain operating system, the foundation and we're widen the foundation that uses the builders, the founders are actually carving
out a brand new product niche and it's something which is incredibly exciting. And if you haven't tested it out yet, you can head to nea.org/signup. You can sign in using fast-auth with an email. You don't need to fanny around and mess on with private keys anymore.
All of these pam points that users are identifying and builders are identifying are getting solved right here and right now. So yeah, the blockchain operating system. We do tend to push big announcements around events. I will plug near con November 7th.
to 10th in Portugal, Lisbon, 2023. It's going to be incredible if you're there and you attended this Twitter Spares. Tell me and we can shotgun beers together and we can talk about how near is the boss.
I just want to comment on that real quick because I know Lisbon is incredible and if you meet David in person you got to send some pictures and tag us I know GJ is with dying so yeah definitely do that. Did you just I can't speak for the world ecosystem obviously but on the data side I think it's only the beginning and we're gonna see some of
amazing stuff. And that's also what makes me bullish because blockchain is, you know, we don't need to use blockchain, but blockchain at the end is more convenient, right? It's just more convenient as any, I mean, if you are a project, you want to deploy your smart contract,
actually you almost have data out of the box like and I really like you know June slogan which says well reporting won't be you know like sorry reporting won't be reported like on a quarterly basis or something like that because
Everything is real time. You will have data solutions where you can download daily activity for your project, monthly activity, weekly activity, and then have a very strong understanding of your user base, for example, and so on. I also think that the experience we
is, "Onch and data is going to change a lot with AI." Why would we not ask questions, for example, to AI, and then just having the response in a different fashion than a dashboard, for example? So I think the relationship with the Onch and data and the way people
people going to interact with that is going to change. And yeah, I'm just, I'm super bullish on the blockchain operating system. There is also the question, well, we have the data that people can start interacting with these data rights. They can engage and they can do that on Shen using, you know, near social
for example, which is a social network on Shen, and unlike Facebook near social, doesn't own your data. So yeah, I think on the data side, a lot is going to change, and it's going to be fantastic to witness that and to be part of that evolution.
a lot of exciting things up ahead of us for us Web 3 enjoyers. So typically at the last 10 minutes of the space I like to just create a little bit of space for anyone to chill any
Anything that they're really excited about, I know we've sort of talked about the resources we have for anyone looking into what we're working on, but if there's any other callouts before we close out this space, definitely now is the time.
Also, I would like to comment that if you're in this audience and you're not following any one of these speakers, that's going to be a big mistake. So please hit that follow button for Polonia, David, DeDier and GJ, if you get the chance. Also, I've pinned up
some resources at the top, Aurora Cloud, as well as the blockchain operating system over at NER. So if anybody's looking for more developer resources, both of those would be great place to start.
If no one has anything else, then I think we can wrap up our space there. Thanks so much for joining us today guys. This has been a great chat. If anyone wants to return, we'd love to have you. We do these spaces every Wednesday. So always feel free to join up and jump on stage. We'd love to have you guys back.
Thank you very much. Huge thank you to flip side crypto. You guys have been absolutely brilliant. Nothing less than incredible. Thank you all. Thank you.
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