🎧 Inside Scoop on FRICTIONLESS: Backstage VIP Pass with our Sponsors

Recorded: Feb. 22, 2024 Duration: 0:58:21

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GM GM everyone
hope everyone's having a
phenomenal day today
just give us a few minutes as we're getting
the speakers up on stage and
and we'll be ready to kick this bad boy off
how's everyone doing today?
doing great
doing good another day
another opportunity
I'm just starting my coffee
I'm right there
with you Dean well I'm not just
starting it this is my second cup but
it feels like it's still the first cup
just as sweet
are you guys black coffee people?
like any sugar in there
are you guys hardcore?
no milk little bit of white stuff
little creaminess
little creaminess
you know milk, cream,
bay leaves whatever something white
yeah I'm generally
if I'm traveling
I prefer black coffee just because
it's simpler but
you know if I could have it my way
I generally like a little bit of creaminess
Sid welcome
got Patrick as well
Patrick how are you doing?
what's up guys can you hear me?
I can loud and clear
happy late birthday two years
amazing guys
it's wild to think about
when does one become a blue chip
in terms of time alive
as a protocol
probably like four years maybe
four or five years? we're getting there halfway Mark
you released a light blue chip at this point
like a baby blue chip
like a baby blue chip
that's a good way to put it eloquent
I think the only person
we're still waiting on
is Dora Hex
give them like a minute more
and then if not we can kick things up
and they can always
I don't know about you guys
I don't know the difference
of like where you guys
the weather where you guys live and what it's
going to be like in Denver I was hoping to
see some snow while we were out there
it's been
incredibly warm where I'm at
this winter and I haven't seen
the likes of any snow or ice
I don't know
I don't know what it's like
where you're at quarter I'm sure you've
seen at least some snow
I'm looking at snow right now
you're probably one of the few people
most people on Twitter
I think half of people
going to east Denver wish it wasn't
east Denver and like all the snow people
are like what are you talking about Denver's
I love the mountains fresh air
the sun there's so much
sun like vitamin D out there
it's wild
yeah I think Carter
you want to give this another two minutes wait
for Trevor
whoever's going to be coming from Dora Hex
or do you want to go ahead and get this
kicked off? I think we can kick things off
if they make a grand entrance
then we'll make a grand announcement that they've arrived
and worst case scenario we can only spin up
another Twitter space that's just Dora Hex
happy to do that
time in the sun
with that welcome everyone to this
Twitter space on this beautiful Thursday
the week before east Denver kicks
off this has been an
incredible week for shade it's been an incredible
week for a lot of the projects
up here on stage right now
and we're really excited to be up here
talking with you guys talking with the community
about one
kind of what's going on right now
for these protocols but what we're most
looking forward to that's going to be
happening in east Denver today
we're joined by the
Andromeda team, we're joined by
Secret Network, we're joined by
Agoric, joined by
and Dora Hex
might pop in here later
and then obviously
shade protocol is here hosting
this space
and we're all going to be at east Denver
representing our respective
projects but also
representing kind of the
the greater cosmos
ecosystem as a whole
so today I want to
give brief introductions to all the guests
that are up here that are going to be sponsoring
frictionless which is one of the
side events that shade protocol is going to be hosting
at east Denver, this
culmination of
some of the brightest minds in
cosmos ecosystem to talk about how we're going to be
pushing this ecosystem forward
but to get this kicked off I want to
allow each of these projects
or individuals who are representing
their projects here to kind of give a brief introduction
for themselves so that way everyone
knows who we're talking about
Andromeda, would you
would you like to kick this off? You're
the first person up
at the top of my screen
Absolutely, my name is Matt
Hawkins, I'm one of the co-founders
or co-creators if we're using
web3 language. I've had four cups of
coffee this morning and glad to
be here. Glad to sponsor
what's going on with shade
and want to shout out to shade right away
for being just an outstanding
Dex experience for us. We started
with shade on December 28th
which there was a little hesitancy to start
and it turned out to be the best decision that we ever made
so thank you for that Carter
really awesome shade
team and we're glad to be here
and for those of you who don't know
we're an operating system
and we're connecting to
L1's across the cosmos
so glad to be here, thanks
Really appreciate that
Yeah, really appreciate that Matt
you want to introduce yourself
and kind of kick it off for Agorik
Sure, so I'm Dean Tribble
I'm CEO of Agorik
and Agorik is
a platform really
set up for
smart contracts to do
cross chain applications, smart contracts to do
frictionless applications,
seamless applications,
chain abstraction, basically
programming of things where you're living
in an asynchronous world and you need to
put together, you want to put together an application
that pulls together all of these assets
and services from across, not
just the interchain but the broader crypto ecosystem
anything that's connected over any of
these amazing interop protocols that we've all
pushed and created and rolled out
and so we are excited
pretty central to what's
going forward in terms of chain abstraction
and that kind of thing with our orchestration
programming approach
and our orchestration solution, so
East Denver is really exciting because
that's where a lot of the people with
this kind of, you know,
how do we build frictionless applications, how do we
build applications that provide a simple
user experience, that
realization that we
now, we are now at the
phase of the market where we need that is
hitting the market, it's hitting people and they understand
how important that is and all of us are
lined up to be able to provide solutions for them, so
that's exciting
Yeah, it's been, we
the relationship between Shade and Agoric
is probably
almost a year long at this point
it's been great to see you guys grow, I really
appreciate you guys being here sponsoring frictionless
and can't wait to meet you guys
in Denver. I look forward to it
we met, we
started this I think at a
at a previous event
in either
East Denver or
Austin, I don't remember which, but it was
you know, Southwest, it was
cold, it was dry and we
had great conversations
I was probably, I would
assume that's Austin, mostly
Yeah, it was Austin, Texas and Denver
I love, the Agoric team is
so active with hosting
events everywhere and it's
so helpful you guys are some
some of the unsung heroes in terms of connecting
projects are people that are
willing to put in the time to create the logistics
and the environment for people to have these
great conversations, so thank you
on that front
You're quite welcome, yeah, the
the ethic of JavaScript, right, it's JavaScript
smart contracts and JavaScript is often
about being able to write
just enough code to glue these other systems and
components together and so we also
do that socially
I think next, Siddharth, you want to
go next, introduce yourself and introduce
Yes, hey guys, sorry
for joining in a bit late, I had a bit of an audio
issue earlier on, but I think everything
seems to be working fine, so
I'm Sidd from the Comdex team
been part of the Cosmos ecosystem
for quite some time now, originally
started off Comdex as
a kind of a real world
asset infrastructure layer, but
over the course of building out what we've built out
it's evolved into this infrastructure
that's meant to connect
Interchain DeFi with real world asset
financing, so we have
a few protocols that are live
on the chain which focus on DeFi and
a lot of the focus for the coming year
is now going to be building out
some of the real world asset infrastructure
which will then allow everyone to kind of
move their capital seamlessly between the two
Yeah, that's really exciting
to hear again, Comdex and
Shade have a relationship that spans
greater than a year and it's
been great to collaborate with you guys
and kind of grow alongside you guys
I'm really excited about
the introduction
and further adoption of real
world asset usage in DeFi, so
really excited what Comdex is doing there
Absolutely, yeah
been very
had the pleasure of working closely
with the Shade team, Carter's a great
friend, I've always enjoyed conversations with him
whenever I meet him at events and
conferences, so really looking forward to this
one, really looking forward to meeting
Dean again, catching
up with other folks on the panel
here as well, IRL, it's always a great
opportunity to do that when you're
at events and looking forward to it
Alright, Patrick
how's it going sir?
Yeah, what's up guys?
I'm sure a lot of the secret network folks in here
recognize you
but for some of the people who
aren't familiar with secret network
aren't secret network native folks, can
you introduce yourself and then
can you introduce people to secret network?
name is Patrick, I work for the secret network
foundation, for anyone
not familiar with secret network, it's a
layer one in the Cosmos ecosystem
but with Cosmos SDK
and the unique thing that it provides
is privacy preserving smart
contracts, so you can build applications
with encrypted inputs, outputs
and state, and
one of the shining examples of what
that allows you to build is shade protocol
so, hopefully you all are
familiar with what it
provides and what it enables
but at the same time, we're also focusing
on providing that tooling to other
ecosystems such as Ethereum
and that's why Ethereum is such
a big opportunity for us and
something that we're really looking forward to
connecting with that Ethereum developer
audience and showing them
the tooling that we've come up with over the past year
and what it allows them to build
so it's going to be a great experience, I think
As Patrick said, shade
protocol would not be here
without secret network
and so, obviously we're
incredibly grateful for the people who
originally put their minds together
to build out this privacy
preserving smart contract layer
that we call secret network and
also incredibly thankful for people like Patrick
who help keeping things moving along
internally and making sure the ecosystem
is growing alongside the tech
and without further ado
my man Carter
Oh, I suppose
I suppose we get an intro too
Carter here, lead researcher
over at shade protocol
at shade protocol, we're all about empowering
your money, your
data, your decisions, that's what we
exist to empower
we just had our two year
anniversary yesterday
two years of privacy
preserving DeFi
we have a decentralized exchange
an extremely novel
stable coin called Silk
we have liquid staking tokens
we have bridging, so many fun things
over at app.shadeprotocol.io
and we're the ones hosting
frictionless in ETH Denver
we're focused on creating an
intimate event for really
good conversation, there's going to be no
screens at frictionless
which is a very distinct choice
a lot of times you roll up to a conference
and it's like, oh, there's another screen
another slideshow, another speaker
do I look at the speaker or do I look at the slideshow?
not going to have that problem at frictionless, this is going to be an
intimate event with all these sponsors
it's all about the people, the people are
what we're all, that's the
interesting part of the conference, that's where all the magic
happens, so looking forward to
hosting frictionless and really
amazed by this lineup, there's
200 people registered
with over 200 people on the wait list
for frictionless, we had no idea it was
going to grow to such an insane
magnitude, we actually had to
book one door down
from the main event, a brewery, to
just add more space for the number of people that are
going to be coming, so you'll be able to bounce between
the main kind of conference hall
room, where the speakers will be
over to the brewery, so it'll be
it's going to be an absolute blast
it's going to be catered food
and I'm excited about these
conversations about what does it mean to
become frictionless, we know the
value of crypto on blockchain is about its
permissionless nature, it's self
custodial property rights imbued
into all of this, and
those values are there, but
if there's too much friction
we're not going to be able to onboard the next generation
of users, we're going to be stuck
in a corner, and so what does it
mean for Cosmos to become frictionless
as it pertains
to user experience, to developer
experience, to decentralized
finance, to
within this world of privacy and
sovereignty, there's so many great questions
we'll be exploring in person, and just
really excited about all these guests and
sponsors, that
are going to make this just
a beautiful gathering
of the minds, so that's my introduction
right there.
Absolutely love it Carter
I see Trev down there in the
audience, from
I'm not sure if Michelle
or Mr. Occult are
from the Dorhax
Yeah, I can give a quick
intro, I'm actually on the Andromeda team, so
I don't know if you were... Oh wonderful, yeah
yeah, you're more than welcome to give an introduction
to yourself. Yeah, I thought I'd
just jump in, hard to follow
Carter on that one, so
exciting, but my name is Michelle
I am the Chief of Staff
on Andromeda team
and I'm really
looking forward to meeting all of you in person, I've
met several of you virtually now
my background, I'm actually from
Denver originally, or
from the mountains in Colorado, so
I've been at ETH Denver every year since
the first year, and
even the year we did it virtually, but
close friends with the organizers, and
it's an event that's very close to
my heart, and same
with Andromeda, I came on as
an advisor in 2022,
and then recently
joined full time at the end of last year
and so much
exciting stuff going on, so
excited to dive more into that
but we have a lot of great partnerships
in the works, and
we have our mainnet coming up
soon, and launch of our operating
system, so happy to
dive in more, but just excited to
be here part of this
and getting to know some of you more
Really appreciate you coming up on stage
and introducing yourself, it's nice to meet you
What's going on man?
Glad you could join us
I saw your telegram
messages, I was like, oh shoot
Trev, Trev
It's like, Trev, Trev
where, where
where, where aren't that
I'm just kidding, I saw the last
online 8 hours ago, and I was like
no Trev, you're like
he's still asleep, wake him up
thanks for having me
I see a lot of
all of my friends up here
and maybe some new ones
I'm Trev from the Dorahax team
we're just doing introductions
I suppose, Dorahax
is a global leader
in hackathons, and we also support
infrastructure
validators, nodes, that kind of thing
for, honestly a large majority of
the Cosmos chains at this point
and even beyond
that our whole
stop laughing
our whole thing is
building and planning the frontier
we just believe that
we need to engage
build, fund
all these incredible projects and support
them in order to get to where we need to go
so happy to be here
frictionless, what is frictionless
I think people hear me
complain about this enough
or have complained about this enough over the past couple of years
we need to reduce the friction
it's just too complicated
in order to leverage web
we need to put more effort into making things
frictionless, not just for us
but also for the mass
the mass is out there
the second you're educating
spending too much time educating is
I think the second that you've kind of lost
it needs to be as easy
or easier than the
web to maybe a little bit more complicated
slightly but
frictionless means a lot to me
because if we don't eliminate friction
we never get there so we need to start taking it seriously
so the name is really
cool because it's something I believe in
so that's all I got
GM everybody
appreciate you being here
just in case
I'm missing someone, Mr. Occult
you want to introduce yourself
that's also totally
acceptable
he requested to be a speaker
and I was like you know what let's roll the dice here
let's go for it
it's all good
a spooky speaker
so Ethanver is going to be this
culmination of business development
technical development for
all the people participating in the hackathons
it's going to be a culmination of building connections
with existing
and new partners
building friendships
and you know just having some outright fun
so one of the things I want to ask you guys
for your individual teams
what are you guys most excited for
at Ethanver? You know everyone's got
their goals and kind of their mission
with going there
maybe it includes some of the things that I just mentioned
but I'm curious what you guys
are most excited about
what you guys are most excited for
at Ethanver
so I'll jump in here for Andromeda right away
being an operating system
that wants to connect as many
L1s as possible
to increase everyone's total addressable market
and speed and network effects
we know that we need to get face
to face with people we've been doing it like
crazy for the last three years
over telegram and zoom
what I like to call speed dating
a flash mob but we need to get
more face to face with it
and by the way let me start off right away
saying anybody on this call right now
we'll co-market with you
I know that's going to drive my CMO crazy
but we want to co-market with you
because we're in it for the long game
we want everyone to win on this
and we believe that connectivity is the key
and I am all about this frictionless
I'm a fighter pilot by trade
so I spent my life trying to get
frictionless so I can go faster
so I like to go faster
for all of us so that we can
solve this adoption
issue that Web3 has
not just Cosmos but Web3 in general
we need to make this more recognizable to the mainstream
and much easier, like you said Trevor
if it takes you a year to figure out
what the square root of Web3 is
it's taken too long, it needs to be something that your kids
can pick up like an iPhone or an iPad
and do right away
go out Connections and that's what I'm
the most excited about, we've got a suite
at 2560 Blake Street there in
Denver and you're welcome any time
come on over, we've got wall-to-wall
meetings all day, every day that we're there
but we want to meet you
and come on in and meet us
I suppose I can hop here next
from shade protocols perspective
we really have two goals
one is to run a really good event
this is the first time we've ever
hosted an event like this
back in September
when the market was still pretty
like depressed, a lot of the energy
was still low, we kind
of said you know what, I think things
are going to turn around and I think
right around February
people are going to be chomping at the bit
to meet up and I think
there's a lot of Cosmos
meet ups that have been happening globally
but the US, I feel like there's a lot
of people there that have been waiting for
another big Cosmos meet up
so we kind of sensed that there
would be a lot of demand there
and so we decided to spin up
the frictionless event and I think
originally we were picturing 50
to 75 people would be
a successful event and
now it's up to 200 plus
and empathy would be very helpful
we may be in over our heads but we're going
to try our darndest and what I do know is
the people are where the magic is
so even if things are imperfect it's so
going to be a really good time and so we're
focused on really executing
on frictionless because I'd love for it to
become a series
everyone's heard of the permissionless event
series and I think frictionless can
also become something similar
over the long haul
the second objective for us is
we're really focused on
onboarding more and more partners
into ShadeSwap we have a
liquidity matching
structure that allows projects to bootstrap
without any emissions by just teaming
directly by teaming up between
two protocols directly we've actually done this
with Andromeda is like an
amazing partner and shiny example
of this and we've now closed
I think 10 different liquidity
matching deals so one of our big
goals in Denver is to continue to close
these types of knowing mission, long
term, liquidity
partnerships and I think
also we want to go
beyond just Cosmos with this kind
of deal structure and partnerships like Cosmos
is it's growing insanely quick
but there's also many other
thriving ecosystems with
with AxlR and
wormhole and gravity
and composable and landslide
and polymer and union
there's all these different doors
that are starting to open up and
while it's great that those doors are opening up
you actually have to have the relationships and the business
development to go and actually get those
assets and communities to start
cross pollinating with each other so
that's going to be one of our biggest goals
By the way Carter we're all making it up as we go along
we're all
swimming towards the surface
I appreciate that
if you can tell
we're not like perfectionists
but we really care about our partners
so we want it to be a great experience
and we're going to try our best to make that happen
Just to kind of highlight
part of what you're saying Carter
at least from my perspective one of the things
I'm really looking forward to
is there's a lot of connections and
friends that we've made
inside and outside the cosmos
that haven't seen their
faces since the last
cycle. It's been a few
years. People
stop traveling to conferences as much
stop coalescing whenever money's low
and markets are low
so it's going to be really nice
to not only see the energy coming
back but seeing the faces come back because
there's so much value in being able to
build relationships face to face
we work online
we work remotely
from all over the world
I think there's really something special
about being able to meet up in person
being able to feel that energy
that like-mindedness of
similar goals
Patrick I saw you unmute there
I'll jump in
I'll contact unmute too so I don't want to
a website page in the comments
here at this space if you want to check it out that shows all
the main events Secret Network will be attending
and the links where you can get tickets
for some of those because some of them do require tickets
but the biggest thing is
definitely our East Denver booth
we're sponsoring the event so we're going to have a booth
it's going to be a
great opportunity to interact
with Ethereum people
we're hoping to make a lot of good connections
and onboard a lot of developers
and at the same time
we're also running a hacker house
in parallel to all of this
so any developers that we do
run into at the conference we're actually going to be
saying hey go check out our hacker house
we have dev rel people that are
ready to build with you right now
just sit down and start building cross chain applications
there's going to be a lot of opportunities I think
applications to start being built on Secret
and we're in a
better position right now than we've
ever been in the past to really
bring those
Ethereum people in and show them
this is exactly how you can use
Secret Network in your applications
we've come a long way on our developer
documentation over the past year
we've built out entire new
privacy as a service primitives
encrypted voting over Axlr
secure RNG
over Snakepath and Axlr
and we're
constantly adding new
primitives to that documentation
as well as new tooling
like yesterday we
announced a partnership with Union
which is going to be a new
cross chain messaging
protocol that developers can use
to build applications
that are built on Ethereum
that interact with Secret
to perform some
type of confidential computation
so the booth and the hacker house
are definitely our really
big major
place and that's where we're probably
most excited about but
we also have several side events
frictionless being one of them which is going to be
a great way to interact with the Cosmos
community we're also
attending Adam Denver which is going
to be another huge Cosmos event
I know there's going to be a lot of Cosmos teams there
probably everybody here is
also going to be at Adam Denver
and we're also hosting a
pretty interesting
PEE event
for anybody not familiar with that
PEE is trusted
execution environment and that's the
technology that Secret Network
uses to provide that confidential
computation
and we're also going to be
we're doing that with the Oasis
network and Phala network
they're also going to be co-sponsoring
and speaking there and we're
also going to have Andrew Miller presenting a
PEE note which is a
pretty high profile researcher
that we've talked about in the past
he's done some research
around Secret Network and
Oasis and Phala as well so
definitely a friend of all of us
and probably a lot of you are familiar with him
that's going to be an awesome event
so if anybody
is interested in any of those things definitely check
out our landing page and make sure you grab
tickets to some of these things before they're
sold out I know some of them probably
already are sold out like Frictionless and Adam Denver
but just try to get a ticket
while you can
I'm super pumped to see what comes
from all the hacker houses and
hackathon events that Secret's going to be
participating in. I know there's at least
one grant
that Shade Protocol
has open right now that is
looking to be complete at
ETH Denver if I'm not mistaken
not sure if that's officially part of the
hacker house stuff that
Secret is hosting
but another cool
example of the technical stuff
that's technical accomplishments
that we're looking to accomplish
while we're in Denver
so really appreciate that
Yeah and Shade's actually going to be giving a workshop
at our hacker house as well so
I don't see the Shade guys at our hacker house
Yeah I see Austin
down in the audience over there he'll be
the one giving it. I would say the
most experienced front end developer
on Secret Network so for sure
if you're a dev you're going to want to be there
We have over a hundred people
currently registered for the hacker house
we're definitely going
to have to control the flow
of people coming in and out but
hopefully it's going to be packed the entire week
Awesome I think I'll jump in here as well
I'm always excited by
IRL events because
being based in this hemisphere
of the world I don't get too many opportunities
to meet with a lot of
the Cosmos family
IRL too often
This is a great opportunity
to do that I think the word that
Carter used a little earlier on
cross pollination is definitely
something that applies to the situation
it's much easier to
have this collaborative energy
take form when you're all
in the same room and able to see each other
face to face and bounce ideas
off of each other as opposed to
sitting in your own corners of the
world with different time zones and trying to coordinate
over Google Meet or whatever
So that's definitely one of the major things
that I always look forward to at events like these
and of course it's always
an opportunity to meet with
more new folks that I probably
wouldn't have interacted with in the past
for example the Andromeda team
that's a part of the spaces I'm super excited to hear
what work they're doing and
unfortunately haven't had the opportunity
to interact with anyone from that team
but it'll be a great opportunity there to
meet face to face and learn a bit more
about what they're doing and always
looking to explore synergies
so that's at the top of my list
for what I like to do at conferences
and what I always look forward to and I think
a big shout out to Shade Protocol for putting this
together, I love the
theme, frictionless is definitely
something that
we should all strive to achieve when it comes
to onboarding newer
and newer folks into the
ecosystem and into the products that we're
building and essentially
it's the only thing
that's left to be
worked upon with all
of the work that's already been done
it's just about making it frictionless
so that we can finally
get people to start using it
the mom and pop users
super excited for
being able to achieve all of this
when we're there in person and also very
excited to hear
the talks that will be going on
throughout the event as well
just jump in there
sorry Trev, go ahead
No, go for it
Okay, I was going to say, Sid, thanks
for the shout out
there, we'll definitely look forward to meeting
Yeah, we're hosting a couple other side events
too, Andromeda, I think they're our
wait list, so in addition
to frictionless, we're doing
a happy hour Wednesday with
Archway and Contango
Chorus One and Omniflex
so can drop the link
here in a minute
and then also doing a workshop
for App Chain Day on Tuesday
which I think is at like 1pm
but I think
my favorite part about Eat Denver
I always love the very chill
events and the
big parties are really fun
but also the opportunities
that are just like in coffee shops
getting to know people better and having
kind of more one on one conversations
and there's also like a
chill zone at Eat Denver which is really nice
you have to really pace yourself
at Eat Denver because it's
such a long conference and event
and so much going on throughout the week
I love those and then as Matt said
we have a suite downtown
that's just an Airbnb but
would love to host
anyone that wants to come by and
just grab some coffee or chill
it's right there in Rhino
so be sure to just hit
us up for that
The key is no sleep, Mikaela
The key is no sleep for
like 5 to 8 days
I'm preparing
the whole time
go to sleep for like 5 days
and your telegram gets backlogged
and here you are
several years ago
Cosmos was
even more fragmented
than it is now
to the point of we weren't
putting on events together
we weren't coming together in person
I think we are now
and seeing where we
but where we were then and where we are now
I think is really really
it makes me feel
a little warm and fuzzy inside
it's not all sunshine
and roses but to see all of our
teams coming together
and putting on events to bring people together
it's not just the old OG
teams but also the newer teams
I think it's really really awesome
so when I heard that Carter was putting
on this event and his
feelings behind the event
I was naturally really really aligned with
going to be going on at
frictionless and other events in town
gave me a reason
to be even more optimistic
tempered optimism but still optimism
so there's a lot of cool
events in town
I'll lightly
plug our event, we're doing an event
called App Chain Day
hopefully we'll see everybody there
frictionless is
also really really important
we have a Gorgs event, we have
Adam Denver, there's so many events
but my belief was always
you have to bring people together
and you'll
just have magic happen, you may not know what's
going to happen but you'll have magic happen
events like these that keep me
kind of optimistic, EAT Denver is always going to be
EAT Denver and it's always going to be a massive
cluster, you know, one of
shills and
whatever the
flavor of the week might be
for Ethereum
but it's nice to see
kind of the added
we'll call it inspiration
from Cosmos and other chains
because it doesn't have
a real impact on the industry
as we do see
so I'm just jazzed to see
everybody in person
like when I said, see some faces
once in a while
Trevor, you tell me you don't want to talk about L2
Rolex for a whole week?
I don't want to hear
you know what, I'm not going to talk smack
build a layer to
BTC, something
forky, whatever
forky, I'm just having a brand, someone's
got to grab that quick
I'm just happy people are trying
you know, I'd be really
concerned when I stop seeing people
try, we just need
to get smarter about seeing who's trying
to extract more value than they're building
and I think we're getting better
at that, we're not the best at it, there's always going to be
things that get through the
collective social net
but I think we're getting better at it
and the second we figure that out
and the second we start thinking about
our companies as companies
and our projects, maybe people will start
taking us seriously, so
I think we're almost there
so, cautiously optimistic
but somebody will take forky
if it's not a thing it is now
yeah, in Texas
we say bless your heart
that's a savage
my east coasters say they use
that as well
so, if I can
jump in on some of this
you know, I said
a little bit of it, but
you know, I love the term frictionless
that's great, it all taps into
this, you know, this
growing focus, also
chain abstraction is the
term for it, but
what it takes to provide simple
user experience, we say we want to reach the user
with something that they end up not being able
to use isn't actually
valuable, what people need is
simple user experiences to
accomplish things, and what a lot
of people don't realize is providing
a simple user experience is really
hard, right, you know, users
on the web too, they don't
care whether you're hosted at Amazon or
Google or Azure or your
own data center, whatever it is, that's
all, you know, they're using applications
seamlessly across those, and we don't hit
crypto, that's not the case, currently they
wed to an ecosystem, they wed to
a platform, they wed to, you know,
to some particular set of tools
and we have to get past that, and
in building
of Cosmos, in building of
the IBC infrastructure,
in building of interop bridges
like, you know, Axilar and Gravity
and Hyperlane and all these things
that creates,
you know, and also that whole L2s
and the roll ups,
that creates this sea
of numerous components
that would like to deliver
some amount of value to users,
but right now they have to
manually hand carry their
goods from one chain to another,
right, sign multiple
transactions that they don't quite understand
to get USDC from ETH
over to, you know, over
into TIA state somewhere, whatever it is,
and that's the kind of thing that
chain abstraction
and frictionlessness is present
the user that use cases, I got
money, how do I get some state data,
right, I got money, how do I get an LP
position on ShaveSwap, right,
and, you know, let me push
button and make that happen, and that's really hard,
right, it requires navigating
multiple async things
that have time delays and latency
and, you know, different signings and all
these kinds of stuff, and so
the thing that I'm excited about, as I said earlier,
is people in the ecosystem
in the crypto world
now are understanding how
important that is, we've laid down
a lot of the rails for Interop
with all these various tools, and
we've built a bunch of assets that are all at
the end of various railway lines, at
the end of various connection
protocols, that we now need to
stitch together, and so, you know,
so I'm excited that people realize that,
we've got lots of people tackling it from different
perspectives in different places
and, you know, Agoric, and it
also fits well with Agoric, where now
we have that
decentralized operating system,
programming environment, but we have that ability,
that orchestration
API, that orchestration system
to be able to program that
asynchronous cross chain kind of activity,
but the most
important thing is the extent to which everyone in the
ecosystem realizes how important that is, and that
we're coming together with a bunch of these kinds
of approaches, kinds of
realization of its importance, tools
that fit together,
because to get there and
deliver that simple user experience, it's going to take
all of us with all these different pieces
plugging together in a smooth way,
so I'm really excited about
how much that's hit
subconscious of how we approach
these things, and how much events
like this are bringing us together.
We also have several events, so we are at
we are, of course, I'm presenting at Frictionless,
we have our own
event, the orchestration splash event,
which is on the 27th in the evening,
that is, you know,
a party with launch,
if you will, celebrating
the orchestration stuff, but there is
the Adam Denver,
of course, there is
chain abstraction day, which the
day, I think, before Frictionless, right,
it's on the 28th,
at the same time as Adam
Denver, so some of us will be going back and forth,
but those are two different complementary
pieces talking about what's
the user scenario, what are some of these
outside of Cosmos things that
can plug together with Cosmos to help
solve this problem, and then, of course, presenting at
Adam Denver and Frictionless.
So, Agorak will be all over the place,
you know, I'll be presenting in lots of places,
a lot of the Agorak team will be there,
and ready to talk to you about how all these things
plug together.
I think one
very exciting opportunity
is that Cosmos,
because of its thesis
that it's held this long around horizontal
scalability, all these different
separate blockchains,
all asynchronously talking
to each other, it feels like Cosmos is kind of
tackling this
type of orchestration,
operating system
before maybe anyone else,
so I actually think this type of event
even points the other Agorak
to talk with Andromeda and other
brilliant builders.
I use the term peering behind
the veil. I think
the Cosmos ecosystem is able to see
a future in a way that not
many other people have had the chance to,
primarily because we're already
encountering Friction that other ecosystems
are going to arrive at in a year or two.
To have the opportunity to trailblaze,
have these projects
come together and talk about
the problem and start tackling
it is just so exciting.
I can't wait to see where the design
space is for apps
in Cosmos, and this
whole cross-chain world that
we're entering into in the next couple of years. It's going to be so cool.
Yeah, just listening to everyone talk
about all the different events that
they're going to be hosting, all the different events
they're going to be participating in.
It's kind of crazy to think
that we're technically going to eat
Denver, but effectively we're creating
a miniature Cosmos Denver
there while we're
all in Denver together.
That's really cool.
We've got about 10 minutes
left in this space until we hit
the top of the hour. I want to ask
all of you guys before we get
to wrapping this up, what
is one takeaway that you want
your audience or any people that
you meet in need Denver to learn about
the projects that you guys are going to be representing?
If there's one thing
that you really want to get across to someone
while you're talking to them face-to-face, what is
that thing that you want to
communicate to the audiences
that you meet there?
For Andromeda, it's connectivity.
Whether it's face-to-face,
virtually, chain, L1 integration,
co-marketing, co-branding,
whatever is the
overlapping Venn diagram
that we find a common interest
we want to help.
We're in it for the long run
we're in it for big
we're in it for everyone
to win from this. We're all going to
figure this out, but
you can't do it by yourself. You've got to do it as a team.
picture that I share occasionally of a turtle
sitting on a fence post and
I use it as an analogy for a speech I used to
give in my former life about
that turtle didn't get there by itself.
So that's the way I feel about
this Web 3 project
we're all on is
we can't do it by ourselves. We need help.
We're here to
solicit help, give help, and be a
helper, or ask
for the right kind of people to help us
to do what we're trying to do. So thank you for
everything. By the way, I
got up on my fourth or fifth cup of coffee.
I can't remember now because we listed on
MBXC this morning at
6 central time. So
we're damn glad to be in
the race now. So thanks
everyone for being here and we'll see you in Denver.
Trev, go for it.
I guess I'll go next.
what kind of
always sticks in my mind is
I hate this maxi bullshit.
I hate ETH vs.
you name it, ecosystem.
I have a strong feeling that
I'm sure you guys
heard me talk about it before.
For me, ego stands directly
in the way of innovation. It's just
a roadblock and it prevents us
from working together, sharing
problems, solutions,
wins and losses. So kind of
in that same vein of, I think
what he was saying was
something along the lines of a rising
tide lifts all ships kind of mentality.
we just believe in pushing
the boundaries, funding and building the frontier.
we do hackathons and info and all
this stuff, but it's to support every ecosystem.
Although we're Cosmos heavy, we're not just
Cosmos. We support every single
ecosystem and we're all about building
the next thing, funding the next thing.
So I'd encourage everybody
if you have that little
feeling of like
screw them, ETH, maxi
screw them, BTC, maxi.
Any energy we spend fighting
against each other, any time,
energy, money, whatever is energy we can spend
advancing our own mission. So I'd encourage
everybody to continue
trying to reach that point, although sometimes
we do falter.
I think a lot of those people are up here.
yeah, just happy to be involved.
That's it.
For Seeker, it's all about
unlocking new use cases for
EVM developers. So
we're saying, you don't have to build your
application on our chain. You can still build it on
Ethereum, but we're providing these tools
that you can use and it'll
allow you to build groundbreaking applications
that have not been possible before
on EVM chains alone. That's
our message.
Totally echoing
Trev's point, I think
very well said and very well put.
I think the essence of
Cosmos and the essence of IBC is
essentially interoperability, so not maximalism
on any singular chain, but maximalism
on the connectivity between those chains.
And for Comdex at
this event, if there's anything that
interests you about DeFi
and RWAs and the potential merging of
those two realms, just hit me up.
I would love to hear ideas and look at
how we can enable you in getting
there. So that's something I would really
look forward to.
So, echoing
many of these things, it's all about
what does
it take to deliver clean
experiences to users.
It really feels like
I want people to,
if they don't already realize that
that's the challenge, and
that we have, collectively
we have a bunch of solutions that fit together
to do that, I want
people to walk away with that.
So, we're looking for other people
building, that are building new
cross-chain experiences, or that
want to enhance their
existing chains
with the ability to rapidly
integrate them with other services and other
components on other chains.
we focus and provide such a clean
way of doing that, that
it's fun and exciting to
solve these problems and deliver good
things to users. And I think that
the most exciting thing to me at East Denver
is the extent to which
people are crystallizing
on how important that problem is and how
that is one of the big
narratives, or the big narrative
going forward into the
next run-up
of crypto is
doing what it takes to be able to deliver those
simple experiences for users.
Michelle, anything you'd like to add for
Andromeda?
No, I think Matt covered it with
connectivity, but
I just want to echo everything everyone
said here, and thank
you all so much. It's just been an opportunity
to be a part of this, and
really looking forward to the frictionless
event and meeting you guys in person.
And on the shade side,
we've had this longstanding belief
that sovereignty
and privacy go hand in hand.
And if we
build this entire
beautiful, interoperable world
of decentralized finance,
but we do it with
100% transparency
without protections
for individuals, without protections
for institutions,
we've built something that's
not as good, not as healthy, and not
as sustainable as it could be.
Privacy and encryption doesn't
care if you have $100 million or
$1. It treats you the same.
It's fair, it's equitable.
what I want people to walk away with
privacy-preserving decentralized finance
is not some
niche in the corner. It's
not just for the cyberpunks, it's for everyone.
Privacy is normal.
day, that little
HTTPS in the corner with the little lock
logo, DeFi will
have that expectation.
And we believe we're part of
being the first
to prove the value of it, to find the
product market fit, and to onboard
the next million users into
privacy-preserving DeFi.
Incredibly well said,
everyone. Really appreciate all of your
time today joining us to talk about
frictionless, talk about what's coming at
ETH Denver, what everyone's excited about.
I know I'm incredibly
excited to be back and
meeting up with the Shade team face-to-
pace, being able to meet up
with all the teams that are
going to be at frictionless.
I feel like we've got
20 to 30 different
Cosmos team representatives that are going to be
at frictionless, so it's going to be a really great
space to be able to build
relationships, build new and
existing relationships.
Really excited
to see everyone there, less
than a week away.
The single-digit
countdown clock is getting
smaller and smaller.
Carter, do
you have any closing thoughts
before we wrap this up? Or
Matt, if you wanted to add something, welcome to.
Well, I'm just going to say, I'll see you at Cosmos Denver.
what I would close with is
for the projects here,
how can the community
get involved with your project,
and we can just kind of close off with
that? How can people follow you and get involved?
I'll jump in.
Secret Network
Count is in the audience, so just check that out.
Check out our website. We have
Discord, we have Telegram. Those are our
most active communities.
Follow on Twitter. That'll be all
of our important announcements, and
check out, make sure you check out the Eat Denver landing page
because that's where you can get tickets to all
of the events we'll be attending in Eat Denver.
I guess I can go next.
Thanks for breaking it up.
Everyone was like, nobody wants
You can follow us
at atdorahacks if you want
to do a hackathon or you're interested
in anything that we're offering, definitely reach out to us.
You can also follow atdora
factories or atdorahacks or atdora
factory. You can also look up
at App Chain Day for our other event that's
in town. But, yeah.
Come out. Happy to see
everybody.
For us, for Gorg, it starts with
our website agorg.com
slash Twitter slash Telegram slash
Discord. You know, the devs and the
validators are in Discord. You know, people talk
in Telegram, and follow us
on Twitter. And I'm Dean Triple on Twitter.
Come join us.
Awesome. For us, it's
the Comdex account is in the
audience here, so you guys can follow that.
The website is comdex.one
My DMs are always open
on Twitter as well, so you can always reach out to me.
And if you're at the event, you can just spot
me wearing the same bad kid.
That's my profile picture on my t-shirt,
and it should be easy to find me.
That is a bad, bad kid.
Andromeda?
Yeah, andromedaprotocol.io
is our website. And
come and see us
2560 Blake Street
in Denver. We'll be there
from the 25th to the 3rd.
And we're really excited to, again,
meet with you, co-market with you,
roll dice with you, do
push-up contests, whatever you want to do. So
we're in it for the log-all.
So come see us, and let's connect
and make this thing frictionless.
Shadeprotocol. You can find us on
Twitter, shade underscore protocol.
You can also check out the app
at app.shadeprotocol.io.
Thank you to all the guests. Thank you
to all the audience. And as we
always like to close with,
there's plenty of room in the shade.
Happy building, guys.
Nice. Adios.
Nice. Thank you. That's the first I heard that.
See you guys.