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Inspect x Mocaverse
Recorded: Nov. 2, 2023 Duration: 0:58:01Space Recording
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Hey, hey, hey.
What's up, everyone?
Hey, Shiv.
How you doing?
Yo, GMGM, how are you doing?
Amazing.
Excited to be here.
Really excited to experience the announcements.
You know what I was going to say?
I was like, damn, the music's so good.
I'd rather have this continue for a bit longer.
I'd really notice the vibe now.
I'd enjoy the music.
Yeah, really setting the vibe for the space today, man.
Let's go.
I'm super excited to have Mocha.
I know we're waiting for a few more.
I see them in the audience, actually.
Let's bring them up.
Gojo and Tyler.
Hopefully, Gojo and Tyler are not sick of hearing my voice.
Spoke to these guys last week.
And we're back at it again.
Back at it the way it should be.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
How are you doing?
Well, good to see, man.
Super excited to be here with everyone.
These spaces are always a great time.
I know you and I have been doing a few spaces here and there.
I'm excited to...
We kind of teased it last week.
I jumped on with you and Whale and the rest of the Mocha team.
Back on and out to really give this partnership its time to shine and its moment.
So, super excited.
So, if you can...
I know you're a co-host.
If you can bring them up, let's get the convo started.
For sure.
I sent you guys an invite, Gojo and Tyler.
So, just waiting on you guys to pull up.
I'm not entirely sure who's behind the Mochaverse account.
The main account right now.
So, just...
Just waiting for these guys to pull up.
But if you guys are tuning in right now,
I'm going to slap this on the top of the space.
Make sure to like and retweet the space.
Let's get the numbers higher.
Look, I see 61 of you guys in here.
I'm not seeing 60 retweets.
Time to get these numbers higher, lads.
Let's cook.
Mr. Jordan.
Yo, Jin, Jin.
How are you doing?
I am good.
And I am quite tired from speaking on the main stations now for Hong Kong Fintech Week.
I saw that.
How was that?
It's amazing.
Good crowd.
A lot of people.
And a lot of people who don't understand Web3.
So, I use Web2 language to show about Mochaverse.
And I got a lot of WhatsApp messages and Instagram and Twitter.
And people DMing me.
I'd be like, dude, that's an amazing project.
Tell me more about it.
And yeah.
So, it's good to know we share our profession in a very layman way.
And I think we should do that more often.
Like to basically show in a normal language or layman language, if you will.
Yeah, for sure.
I think the language is very key when it comes to how can we present information to the wider audience.
Obviously, within our niche, we can obviously use the vocabulary that we understand.
But when you're talking to everyone else that doesn't understand the tech or the purpose behind it, you have to be very careful with the wording.
But yeah.
Also, Gojo, I think we've got you up here.
Tyler, I've got to ask.
Last week, it was your birthday.
How was it?
It's good.
I spent my birthday with Well's Wish on you.
And across midnight, the birthday, and then no one said happy birthday to me.
So, it's good.
All good.
Love it.
Love it.
On my screen, I don't know if Gojo's up.
I think he might be getting bugged a little bit.
But I'm down to get this started.
I'm down to get this started.
How are you feeling, Mike?
Should we get started?
Let's do it.
With a name like Tyler Dern, I'm unsure it's the number one rule.
Do we even talk about this or what?
You don't talk about Locaverse, but you need to kind of talk about Locaverse.
There you go.
Well, you see the title of the space, Inspect X Locaverse.
We've got to talk about it.
You know what I'm saying?
And so, I've got to say, for the community members of Inspect, we're less knowledge of
Mocaverse, especially this massive collaboration, which we're going to dive deeper into.
What is Mocaverse?
If you could give us like a quick elevator pitch for those who are listening in about it.
So, there are two narratives, right?
One narrative to, like for example, to Web2 users in the FinTech Week, we say that it's
the frequent player program of Web3.
On top, a meta layer on top of 450 portfolio companies of Andy Moca brands and a lot more
partners that we're closing.
To the Web3 audience, I would like to basically shift it a little bit, right?
We are basically almost like a chain, right?
And in the sense that we're not really building a chain.
Well, at least not for now.
But the ID itself is almost like a wallet, right?
And then partners on Mocaverse is like a DX.
The points itself is acting as guests, if you will.
And basically, we're building this culture and entertainment L1 chain for the Web3 culture
and entertainment space.
And why do I say that?
It's really a network layer.
And whoever wants to participate in the Andy Moca and Mocaverse network, they need to join
this network and this ecosystem together through Mocaverse.
So that's what essentially what we're building, building that meta layer on top of hundreds
and thousands of applications that we're going to work with.
Sounds amazing.
And that's kind of what we teased last time when we spoke.
We really believe in the way you guys are building.
And we always want to work and support projects like yourself who are building in the right
way and trying to create an ecosystem that supports not only everyone in your ecosystem,
but supports Web3 as a whole.
So super excited to be here.
Super excited to be finally announcing this partnership and really excited to kind of
tell everyone as a reminder to everyone on this space to really celebrate our partnership
and as the first step within this long-term partnership that we'll be having together.
We're giving away 500 Moca ideas on our Discord.
Just make sure to get in.
It's first come, first serve.
And, of course, Tyler will speak a little bit more on later on as what else they can expect
future and short-term from the Moca ecosystem.
But super, super excited.
I'd love to also, like, as Mocaverse launches its season two, how do you see the brand expanding
in terms of mass adoption and overall offerings to community members?
Obviously, like, having Animoca and the suite of portfolio companies, there's just so much
opportunity.
So I would love to hear a little bit about that.
Yeah.
So I think the shift of focus is, I wouldn't say shift because basically in season one with
the Mocaverse entity holders, what we have been experimenting with is, can we work with the
whole portfolio of Animoca to bring basically growth, user growth, sales growth to the projects
altogether by basically inventing that common and interoperable layer on top of the portfolio
companies and the partners that we work with, such as Inspect, right?
So, and I would say that the focus going forward is to basically work with amazing partner like
Inspect and a lot more that we haven't announced yet and basically experiment a lot of mechanism
that hasn't been experimented.
Because to be honest, there isn't any other companies or any other projects that is so well
positioned like Mocaverse and Animoca brands.
If you look at basically whoever has the size of the portfolio and also the influence and
the brand, the reputation, and also at the same time is really about how, what's the mix
of the portfolio as well, right?
The mix of the portfolio of Animoca brands is heavily screwed towards cultural entertainment
and it's always surrounding the user on the day-to-day basis, right?
So, I keep repeating this, right?
Like gaming, culture, gaming, entertainment, music, sports, and education, healthcare.
And we got all sorts of portfolio companies that are in the portfolio of Animoca brands.
And what we're building is truly unique because there really isn't any other company.
Maybe some company like chains and stuff like that would be having that ecosystem, but they're
not chain agnostic.
And that's why Animoca has been chain agnostic for the whole time since 2018, since Dapper
Labs, CryptoKitties back in the days.
And we've worked with Flow, we've worked with Immutable, we've worked with Polygon, we've
worked with Solana, and so on.
And BNB, right?
And what we're building is the layer on top and to bring growth and cross-pollinate network
effects to everyone and to the users is going to be amazing because right now you don't actually
just interact or enjoy the experiences or enjoy the rewards from one project.
Like it basically is a one-stop shop and there's a meta layer that you can actually engage with
hundreds of companies, hundreds of projects.
And then what you get from the engagement, you can use that in the meta layer as well, right?
And that is very powerful.
That is true interoperability.
And I think Inspect is also having the similar mindset.
I think once we started the conversation, we're like, dude, like this is, there's so much
we can do together.
As I said, I think at the end, the team as well is like, dude, I have some really great
idea that I want to experiment with.
And Mochaverse is exactly that, like because there's so much to experiment with a lot of the
companies that we work with and not just in the portfolio.
And yeah, I can't wait to share that with the inspect team and digging deeper.
I'm still waiting for Satoshi to give me like a written, a written plan.
But I have everything in mind.
Satoshi has everything in mind.
We just need to write it out and we're going to kick it off.
And I love the word you use there, that it's something that people don't do enough in
Web3 and it's test.
We all like at the end of the day, being a marketer and just being in a space like Web3,
that's what we need to do.
We need to be collaborative and work together.
We need to support each other and we need to essentially test as much as we can to kind
of create the perfect flywheel, test out different partnerships, collaboration, obviously be mindful
in how we do so.
And I really like the vision that you have and how you guys are building and you're speaking
on a lot of different verticals within how you guys want to build.
So super curious, like where, what's, I'm sure everyone as well, like what's your background?
How did you get into this?
And what's your origin story?
Yeah, so I've been venture building for basically since I started my career, even before when
I was at school, I was like starting social network startups and affiliate marketing and
stuff like that.
So I've been in startup for many years.
I never thought to my age.
So just, just be cautious of that.
So I've been in solar energy, social networking, cross-border e-commerce in mainland China, and
as well as building my AI machine learning company.
And I joined, also have enterprise background.
I was leading the data practice at Accenture doing AI machine learning.
And I was also like pushing Web3 to Fortune 500 companies.
So my ex-client is like the largest charity in the world.
Like, for example, like Shiseido, Estee Lauder, Nike, and Marriott, and all those were our
clients, right?
And I was like shilling Web3 to all of them.
When it was boot market, they were like, yeah, let's do something, right?
And then when it's bear market, maybe we need to pause it a little bit and stuff like that.
But there is some interesting adoption of Web3 and Fortune 500 companies that we work with.
And everyone wants a piece of that.
Everyone wants to be part of it.
And that's interesting.
And then Animoca recruited me.
I joined Animoca.
But actually before that, I started my like mini experiment with decentralized VPN.
Basically, you can utilize the underutilized resources of your phone that when you're sleeping
and charging the phone, someone else can route through your phone to access the internet.
Because if you look at the ExpressVPN or NordVPN, it's based on centralized servers to actually
route through those servers to access the internet.
If one day the government go into the server room and capture it and capture the RAM memory
and stuff like that, they can easily do that.
So, that was my first step into building in Web3, but I actually have been investing for
quite a while.
Yeah, so that's my story.
Probably not so interesting.
No, definitely very interesting.
It's always very different.
That's the thing, like, Web3 is so new.
No one has the same upbringing.
No one has the same, I guess, origins or in a sense.
I come a lot more from the Web2 marketing side, obviously having done a lot in Web3, but
it's always super interesting, especially on the venture side, how people transition from
the traditional venture building to Web3.
But I think it's super interesting.
And once again, guys, I just want to keep reiterating because I don't want anyone to
miss out because it's not going to last very long.
I want to make sure that everyone goes into the Discord and make sure that they get access
to the Mocha IDs because, once again, we have a lot of interest.
You guys see the support.
You guys see the way that they're building.
I want to make sure that everyone gets a chance.
Shiv, I'd love to hear your thoughts as well.
We're always on here.
I feel like I'm speaking.
I'm speaking all the time here now.
I'm taking my new name is Shiv.
Usually it's me that's always talking.
I'm like, maybe I should head off to other people to talk and I will listen in.
But Tyler, what a great origin story you perhaps you could say.
You know, no story is boring.
I think everyone has had a very interesting way navigating through this space and each
one, you know, to their own, honestly.
Sometimes I look at my story, I'm like, damn, that's pretty boring.
But I think to others, it's like pretty interesting.
So I think everything accumulated to where you are right now.
And I think it's pretty amazing.
But just bouncing off what Mike said, right?
The Mocha IDs.
You guys dropped the Mocha IDs a few weeks ago, really pushing it.
And I think for those who are perhaps like, hey, what is the Mocha ID?
How can I get one?
What sort of benefits will be available to a Mocha ID holder?
Why should someone get one?
Love to hear more about it.
Then we can also trickle into the partnership that's happening between Inspect.
and Mochaverse.
Yeah.
So Mocha ID is your identity, right?
I think every ID project actually talks about that.
When we talk to like tier one investors, by the way, like we haven't announced some of
them, but the tier one investors basically, they ask like, oh, are you another ID project?
Why do you work with a stoppable domain and stuff like that?
And my answer to them is the ID itself is a product, but it's not really what we are standing
for, right?
The ID itself wouldn't fly unless the ID is being adopted by the ecosystem.
So just imagine, let's say hundreds of companies are going to recognize the ID and the reputation
that's going to be accrued to that ID.
And projects start to token gate based on the reputation of that ID.
And not just one company is going to be like tens or hundreds or thousands of companies are basically
looking at Mocha ID and be like, wow, you're level 10 of Mocha ID.
Dude, I'm going to give you free stuff, right?
Or I'm going to give you whitelist guaranteed.
Or I'm going to give you, for example, like token allocation for community listing.
Um, I'm going to give you booster packs just because you're that level of ID.
That is what we're building.
And, um, it's not just, it's based on your proof of engagement in the Animoca and Mochaverse
ecosystem.
And it's also a proof of reputation, um, attested by our partners as well.
So I think what would be interesting is actually working with inspect, right?
Like to basically attest that reputation with inspect.
And, um, there's a lot of growth, um, mechanism that I, the team and myself have in mind, um,
that I haven't shared with you guys yet, actually, but I think that's amazing, um, to, to experiment
with is going to bring significant growth to the whole industry and having the IT ID.
as the central point of everything.
Um, and data is so important.
The whole blockchain is about data and what inspect has been doing.
It's amazing.
There's a lot to do with that, right?
So, um, so yeah.
So for example, you guys have seen our partnership with favor.
So there's a lot of partnership that can be driven, um, with multiple parties.
And I would say that's the advantage of Mochaverse as well.
We basically work with everyone and I got to repeat and not, it's not just because inspect
is, um, hosting this spaces, but we're very, we have a lot of conviction behind what we
can do with you guys, um, to build this out together.
Really appreciate that.
I'm super excited.
And just to, to kind of reiterate that as, as I say on every space, um, I'm a big believer
in, in not building what we want, but building what the people want.
I'm a big believer in building things with the community for the community.
And that's why we partner with people like Mochaverse and Tyler who are building in the
right way.
At the end of the day, we've coined the term, the layer two of X.
That's, that's inspects vision, essentially allowing users to research and explore the
cryptocurrency market and not just NFTs.
Right.
And that's, that's since we've gone from NFT inspect to inspect and part of this vision
involves integration and partnerships with market leaders such as Mochaverse.
So we're super excited where we can't wait to, to tell the community more on what we have
planned over the course of the next few months.
Um, and yeah, I think there's, there's a lot of stuff in the works and everyone will be super
excited.
But yeah, go ahead, Tyler.
Yeah, I'm just, so this, this might be seem like a curve ball to you as well.
Um, but I wanted to ask, right, like X, for example, we're relying on centralized platforms
like X right now.
And a lot of the activations and engagement are happening on X and there's a lot of changes
in the API and the limitation on API, um, and rate limit, for example, how, how are you
guys dealing with it?
Because I would really love to hear your thoughts and what's the future plan.
For sure.
I mean, definitely not easy, especially since Elon, uh, kind of took everything over.
Um, of course we work quite closely with, uh, with Twitter.
Um, and I mean, look, it's, it's once again, I'll, I'll be clear here.
I'm no technical lead.
I'm no CTO as a core.
I am a marketer.
Um, but our team is working day and night to constantly just, uh, deal with all the
updates.
I mean, obviously when he put up the rate limits recently, there was some issues, but luckily
we were able to fix it.
And, uh, now we're, we're, we've solved that problem and moving on to the next and finally
integrating with the other chains, which people will see very, very, very soon, which
we're very excited about as well.
Um, sounds good.
I feel like, um, we, we need to have a meeting very soon to, to talk about this because we
have some, um, some interesting plan that we want to discuss with you about.
And, um, our initial plan of the collaboration is already amazing, but we'd love to extend
that to, to even more.
For sure.
Don't drop too much alpha, please.
Let's, uh, let's, let's, let's keep it for the future.
Um, yeah, go ahead, Shiv.
Yeah.
I just want to tap into another thing that you guys also recently, uh, did.
And it's quite a lot of ApeCoin.
Uh, if you guys didn't know, I think I'll, I'll pin this above as well.
You guys acquired, uh, if I'm, please, um, correct me if I'm mistaken, 1.5 million ApeCoin?
Or is it, was it increased?
Yeah, it's increased to 3.5 million ApeCoin.
3.5.
That's what it is.
Yeah.
So I kind of wanted to ask, uh, casual, casual, casual, casually, casually increased my bad
for those who are listening in, what is the vision for ApeCoin and Mochaverse?
Where is the combination of both of them?
Where does it lie?
And given Mocha has one of the largest influence in the ApeCoin DAO.
Yeah.
I wouldn't say like, um, well, of course there is significant influence, but our goal and
objective is not to influence ApeCoin.
Um, I think ApeCoin has been positioned as a web-free culture token.
Um, and what we've been doing here is really first time for the ApeCoin proposers, submitting
proposals to actually consider other communities.
It doesn't need to be Mochaverse.
What's the interesting signals that we actually see in the proposals is the proposers start
to create proposals that actually cater to the Mochaverse community as well.
And once they submit their proposals, they would come into the Mochaverse Discord, they would
DM me, they would try to join our Twitter spaces to share what's really, um, their, their proposal
is really about.
And G just joined, um, as a speaker, like his, has been the biggest, um, supporter, one of
the biggest supporters in, in Mochaverse to host Monday Twitter spaces to get the proposers
to come on stage and then to share about the proposal details so that the Mochaverse community
can actually vote, um, in an educated way.
So, what we've been doing is, um, the reason being why it's 3.5 million, why it's so specific
is also we don't want to be determining the vote and, and also how we use, um, the ApeCoin
DAO treasury as well, um, because, like, otherwise, what's the point?
And second is really to incentivize and motivate the ApeCoin proposers to work with the
other communities.
And now we've been seeing so much collaboration and it's overwhelming, it's amazing.
Um, and a lot of the ApeCoin holders, the Ape holders join our community and partly thanks
to G and probably majority thanks to G as well.
Um, like, you just saw Mashi just bought a Mocha, um, coming into Discord, coming into our
community, um, and there's a lot more.
Like, Aaron, for example, um, we have been having DM and G and MochaChief together, um,
have been, like, doing amazing job and, um, to, to actually represent us in, in other communities
as well.
And the whole space is so small right now.
And there's basically everyone is everywhere.
You can be a Mocha holder, but then you can also be an ApeCoin holder, you can be an Ape
holder.
Um, and we just need to work together, right?
Like, like, we cannot fight with anyone.
We, there's no room to fight with anyone.
And that's why we have been so collaborative all the way.
I think something that you said at the beginning was, uh, very well put.
So, uh, you guys are not looking to influence, uh, ApeCoin DAO.
You're looking to have this proposal go through and have people part of your ecosystem have
a say.
And that's a very interesting thing that you guys have done because I don't see perhaps
enough of it or perhaps see the utilization of ApeCoin and other, perhaps other DAOs in
the ecosystem.
So really cool stuff that you guys are doing.
I also want to kind of circle it back to Mochaverse in general.
Perhaps what is the longer goal?
What is the longer vision that you guys want to do with Mochaverse?
And what is the current strategy to involve that, what that is currently involved to achieve
this?
Yeah.
So I think our goal is to be able to connect the whole Web3 Couch and entertainment projects
together.
And when I say connect is not having, let's say a question platform that is right now
acting as a SaaS service to projects and they engage to get points, but then the points
is not actually, you cannot use those points to the other projects, right?
What we're building is everyone is sharing the same economics, same point system, same identity
system, same reputation system.
And we built this alliance and the network together.
And eventually we hope this alliance could be a Web3 alliance and it covers everyone and
every project.
So that's what we're building.
We want every Mocha ID users coming in, participate in Web3.
The reputation is being accrued to the single view of user and the reputation is being accrued
to that ID.
You can carry that ID with that reputation anywhere and anywhere any projects can recognize that
idea and be like, dude, wow, you're a platinum member.
I will give you something, right?
That's what we aim to build, to build that widely adopted and recognized meta layer.
And we don't need to own it.
It can be decentralized.
It can be permissionless.
What we want to build is really having that common layer, that network layer.
And people and projects joining is sharing that network effect.
That's what we're aiming to build and also to bring growth to the projects collectively.
It could be one project.
For example, one example that I raised before is hyper casual games are really good at user
acquisition, but then they're not good at retention just by the nature of the game itself.
And they're not good at monetization now because ad revenue has dropped.
So how can we work together with hyper casual games, good at user acquisition and funnel users,
which eventually giving the benefits to the users as well is to introduce them to good projects
that actually the users would love to buy the assets of that, for example, first person shooting game.
So this is the true value of the network because no one can actually do this alone and especially
in Web3.
So we're aiming to build this in a permissionless and decentralized manner that we welcome everyone
to join the network together and to join the Animoca network as well to build this together.
I would say a lot of people are still sleeping on it because it's a complicated concept, to be honest.
So what we are working on is how can we simplify this concept and have projects to understand,
dude, this is amazing to join this network because we can build this network growth collectively
and not just for me.
Because if you look at projects like, oh, I need to have my whitelist, I talk to other projects
and I distribute my whitelist, maybe that influencer help me show and stuff like that, right?
It's so not scalable, you cannot even bootstrap that, right?
So what we're doing is actually having that network layer that everyone can really enable everyone
and empower everyone to work together in a seamless way and in an automated way as well.
So that network effect, a lot of people don't understand it and still sleeping on it.
I think recently there's more people who've realized how powerful that would be
and it cannot be done by Moguverse alone.
And that's why we have been working with a lot of the different projects to build this together.
I love it. I love the vision and I love how you guys are executing.
I definitely think you guys are laying one of the strongest foundations now within the bear market.
And if you look at it in scope for years down the line, it's going to pay back massively,
especially with the connections and networking and all the partnerships.
Mike, how do you feel about all of this?
I think it's super exciting.
I think there's so much to do and I'm super excited to see how everything unfolds.
And I think we're at a stage right now where we're kind of seeing the next era of how Web3 and NFT projects are building in the space.
And having, once again, Moguverse being backed by Animoke and allowing you to bring together all of the different 400 different companies
that are affiliated to what you guys are doing.
I think you guys are positioned better than almost anyone.
And I think what you guys will build will be amazing.
So I just, I can't wait to see how you guys do it.
I can't wait to be a part of that and contribute to how you guys build and just creating and building the infrastructure to,
from a social analytical perspective, support you guys and your community in a way that is meaningful.
So super excited once again.
And I can't wait for the rest of the community to see what we've been cooking.
Yeah, I would like to emphasize that is the one that has the answer to this, right?
Like everything is new, right?
What InSpec is doing is truly unique as well.
And I think what's amazing and what I'm grateful for is the Moguverse community is so understanding and we're truly building together.
We have like different group chats, we have different DMs and actually sharing how we can improve, how we can build this together.
That's the amazing side of a great community.
And yeah, really looking forward to that and truly, again, with you guys, I'm pretty sure we can do something amazing.
And for example, like Pachi, right?
If I look at your PFP, probably you need to get a mocha.
But anyway, but what if, for example, one day PachiPenguin NFT holder can go to ApeCoin and ask for ApeCoin grant to support a project based on the PachiPenguin IP, right?
That is true collaboration.
Right now, what I can see mainly is about YugaLabs assets.
And that's why Yad and myself who raised the AIP to 97 is to acquire PachiPenguin as well using the ApeCoin.
And we got approved and we're going to do that soon.
And the reason why we do that is because we really want to tell a story that ApeCoin is not only for YugaLabs assets, but also for the rest of the community.
How amazing that would be when Pachi holders can go to ApeCoin with one ApeCoin holding in the wallet to raise a proposal saying, I want 20,000 or 50,000 or 100,000 ApeCoin to build a Pachi coffee shop, for example.
How amazing that would be.
And it's not happening yet.
And we want to change that.
Definitely bullish on the concept of a Pachi coffee shop.
The first one has to open up in London because I'm based in London and I'll definitely go there every single day representing it.
I love it.
I love the idea.
And this is actually a great segue into what's happening in Hong Kong.
The Pachi team is there.
You should definitely link up with them, Tyler.
How has Hong Kong been so far?
I know we kind of spoke about it at the beginning, but with all the events happening, you know, FinTech Week, ApeFest, how's all the network and all the type of people you're meeting?
Are people talking about Mochaverse?
How's everything going?
Yeah, it's amazing.
So the chief executive is almost acting as the president of Hong Kong government.
Like he came to the Animoca Brands booth today and talked to us and browsing through the different games that we showcase.
And the government is so supportive.
And the Hong Kong Monetary Association invited me and the CEO of Animoca Brands to go there and then to share about Web3.
And for people who don't actually know too much about Hong Kong, Hong Kong Monetary Association is the Central Bank of Hong Kong.
So the Central Bank of Hong Kong is inviting us to go there to share about Web3, share about culture, share about NFT, share about Mochaverse.
And that's amazing, right?
And I have received, I think at least like 50 founders calling me and be like, dude, I want to move our office to Hong Kong.
I want to set up an office in Hong Kong.
Having the policy being so friendly to Web3 companies and Web3 founders is just amazing.
And when you put people in the same room and good founders, quality, high quality and capable founders together in the same room or even on the same floor, amazing things are going to happen.
So I'm very super bullish about Hong Kong and for Web3 companies to be present here.
Because there's a lot of great infrastructure and policy support for Web3 companies here.
When I tell you I have so much FOMO, looking at all the events and whatnot, it's immense.
And I think everyone on the timeline is definitely feeling it.
All the events look spectacular.
Asia community has definitely done a fantastic job in organizing these events.
I'm personally very bullish on IRL events.
Personally, it's just fantastic.
You meet people, you get into the same room as people that you wouldn't have been on.
Like Twitter can only go so far.
And perhaps these IRL events is a massive shortcut into just connecting and building a relationship with a ton of different people.
So I'm bullish on that.
And I'm going to ask, what's the next event that you're looking forward to?
Where is the next event that people can find you at if they want to talk to you?
So we're hosting our own event on a cruise.
It can contain 450 people before it sinks.
And I think we got more than 700 registrations.
And then we were like, we need to stop this.
We don't want to die in Hong Kong.
If I die, I need to die in Portugal or Barcelona or somewhere.
So it's amazing to see that the event is so well received.
So that's the event I'm so looking forward to.
The CEO of Yooka Labs, Daniel, and Yad, the founder of Animoca, they're coming onto the cruise and participating in it.
There's so many good founders participating in the event.
So that's the most immediate one that I'm really looking forward to.
And I would say the second one, which I'm still contemplating about, is DevConnect in Istanbul.
I was just talking to other founders, and they're like, oh, I'm not too sure about that because of safety reason.
But I love DevCon and DevConnect just because there's so much substance and know that what other builders are actually building.
I think the last DevCon was mainly about MBV, MEF, and also 4537.
And then maybe just a little bit of Alpha, like we're actually building towards 4337 as well.
And really looking forward to that.
But hopefully it's not too risky, not too dangerous, and we can actually be there.
This time, a lot of the team members are pretty paranoid about the safety, so I might be going alone.
But really looking forward to that and going to the hackathon and actually listen to the builders and what they're building, what they're cooking.
Oh, dude.
Every time I hear about the cruise, I'm just like, damn, should have been there.
I know we spoke about it last week as well.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
What's this about a cruise?
And is it all you can eat?
That's all I want to know.
Oh, Tyler, I think you might need to give them a TLDR on the cruise, the event you guys are doing.
Mike, have you not heard about it?
It's literally one of the major events happening.
It's massive.
Yeah, so we booked a cruise and it can contain 450 people.
And good founders are going to be on it.
And we're going to sell at 6 p.m. until 9 p.m. in the middle of nowhere in the ocean.
And I invited my friends.
They're amazing DJs.
A really good friend of mine, one of the best friends, he basically DJ and perform at Ultra Music Festival.
And he's going to come here and do it pro bono to basically just to get in touch with the weathery community.
And it's going to be really fun, I believe, as free flow.
So I think, as I told my team to host events, there's only two things you need.
You need a lot of people and you need alcohol.
And it's going to be a fun party.
You don't need to do too much, right?
You don't need to go above and beyond and going to Himalaya or something mountain to make it amazing.
And sometimes it's just like a good crowd, good network, good connection and alcohol, and everyone is happy.
So, Mike, you're not coming to Hong Kong?
I'm not, no.
No, I'm not.
I've been a little bit too much traveling for me recently.
We have some big launches coming up, so I've got to put my head down and get ready.
But I like the strategy.
Get people drunk, put them on a boat, and then it's a great BD.
I like that.
I'm going to use that strategy in the future for sure.
Do you know what the strategy is?
Is getting Tyler drunk and him dropping alpha.
There you go.
Because that's what we need.
And never get drunk.
That's the secret.
Well, you guys are listening in.
If you're going to the party, make sure, get a couple drinks with Tyler.
Get him a little bit tipsy.
Load up a Twitter space and make sure he's dropping a little bit of alpha.
Because that's what Web3 wants.
Web3 only wants the alpha.
They want the tea.
They want to know what's happening.
They want to know, hey, that's happening next.
Let's get on it.
For sure.
With only 15 minutes left, maybe let's start getting...
If people have questions, maybe we can get Gus to speak.
Some other people from the community.
But I feel like we're all speaking a little too much.
Gus, Jesus, what's up?
How are you doing?
Good morning.
I'm great.
I had a great town hall with Mochaverse and the community earlier.
And really love what Tyler's saying.
I've got to say thank you for all of the flowers they're giving to me.
And that's just me hosting a space as you guys are doing.
And then all the other people who make it wonderful showing up, as you know and others know.
Largely, I think it's just, you know, I get to be the place where people show up to do Mochaverse stuff.
And that's the real attraction.
So it's just been great.
The, you know, what Tyler is saying about it being this meta layer that is really non-existent.
And I think beyond what a lot of projects are capable of even envisioning is what really attracted me to Mochaverse.
And is aligned with my own personal project, which is kind of a UN of the metaverse.
And, yeah, I really, the moves that Tyler and team, you know, which I include myself in now, are making are just on that edge where it's, you can't fade it, right?
Like he said, Machi's joining it.
Everybody's joining it.
And the point that he's making about this bear being where we're all in here just like shoulder to shoulder with, you know, there's no room for any squabbles or whatever.
And if there is, it's got to be worked out right away.
And it is being worked out.
And so this is what I mean about like all of us coming together, people pointing out, like Machi's pointing out, like there's no, you know, issue.
Like, you know, Yat and me and everybody, we're all cool.
We're working together.
And so perceptions and stuff are breaking apart.
And people understand, let's just all build this together right now.
Let's get it going.
We're all here.
Let's do it.
I love it.
I'd love to hear it.
If you don't mind, just for the people in the audience, tell them a little bit more about the spaces that you're doing and kind of how you're helping and supporting and working with MoCA.
Sure.
I think a little bit more.
Yeah.
Thanks for pointing that out.
And Tyler actually pointed that out.
And it's an interesting and compelling story, really.
You know, I think that the journey is the most compelling part of anything at this point.
I come from motion pictures and the scripted content is largely being done away with for, you know, whether it's reality TV or the people are capitulating on motion pictures altogether and going and looking at the journey of the individual streamer, like the PewDiePie or the Joe Rogans and whatnot.
And so, you know, all of us working it out, going through this together is really compelling.
And then what Tyler noted about how MoCAverse had, you know, aspirations of working with the ApeCoin DAO.
And so we went in there, myself and MoCA chief, I would give large credit to, went in there as a sort of task force and then tried to build up a respectful way of activating that immense voting power.
And what that turned into was much more than I think a lot of people anticipated.
So the cross-community collaboration became, you know, hailed by the community as a large success.
And what that success required was facility to, you know, have spaces, build those things more structured.
And so that's where me as an individual just started saying, okay, we need to have these spaces outside of the APECOMS space, which largely is the platform for discussion for the AIP authors and people making proposal and whatnot.
That's outside of the texty, you know, discourses and whatnot.
And so APECOMS, shouts out to them, have a space Monday, Wednesday and Friday.
And it is, excuse me, I need a glass of water.
It is, you know, to assist the DAO process.
And so with Mochaverse being so largely involved now and participating, it became apparent that we needed to have our own spaces to have our points of view and also more specifically to cater to our largely Asian constituency, which actually is in a totally different time zone.
So we created that space to partner kind of with APECOMS space to support the process, but also to back it up to an Asian friendly time zone.
And that worked out to be a huge success as well.
And we realized, and APECOMS realized, holy cow, we've got a whole huge Asian constituency that is now involved because they're, you know, we're available in that time zone, I think.
So just a lot of successes and a lot I could go on and on about.
But yeah, that part of the journey, I think, is something that Mochaverse should be applauded for.
And thanks for Tyler for pointing out that myself and Mocha Chief and others just really got to be a part of that.
So I really need a glass of water.
I found my throat right now.
It's so funny.
I'm listening to myself.
But yeah, thanks for giving me the chance to put that up.
I hope you get that glass of water and I hope you're doing okay.
And I've got to commend you.
Running a show is no easy task and doing it out of quality such as yours.
I've got to give you major props as a fellow host myself.
And you're doing fantastic.
Yeah.
Can I just say one thing?
So this is the, sorry, I got a bit of clear throat now.
That is the surprising thing.
You see me kind of noting that it was surprising and kind of overwhelming, I'll just say, right?
And what it is, and this is the really lovely part about like how we're all in here doing the work.
Those AIPs include like polygons, you know, leaders and rec leagues leaders and whatnot.
And so we all have to humble ourselves to this process, which is a bit wild because the AIPs, the proposals come up live for voting only one week before you have to organize that space to go out and make your pitch.
And so you suddenly get all the top leaders in the industry that have their own, you know, profoundly important spaces and agendas suddenly having to work together to get a space together in one week.
And so I get access suddenly to these top dogs reaching out to me and, you know, doing comms.
As you said, it's very difficult.
It is a very arduous process to deal with all the comms right up and into the space with some of the top dogs in the industry.
So that's been a fascinating thing.
And you can see a lot of people coming out to my spaces for that to be, you know, to get involved with Machi or Polygon CEO or whoever else, Tyler and these guys.
And so, yeah, it has been, you know, I need the scaling is an issue at this point and we are looking for teams.
So, yeah, holler if you're interested in helping us do what we do.
It is a lot of fun and it's growing fast.
Love that and appreciate it.
Let's maybe jump to one more question before we close it up.
I just want to remind everyone that we're live with our partnership now with the first stage of our partnership with Mocha.
So go into the Discord, claim while they still last and people are already claiming it now.
It's going to run out very, very soon.
But let's get to it.
If anyone has any other questions, please come up.
See a lot of familiar faces in the crowd.
I'm super excited.
So if you can, you control it, unfortunately.
I was struggling to unmute there for a second.
I actually got a question for Gus.
With your spaces that you do, you kind of spoke about catering towards the Asian time zone.
I mean, how's that kind of going?
Sorry, you rubbed a little bit.
I heard time zone.
What was the question?
Sorry.
So when you do your spaces, right, if correct me if I'm mistaken, do you do it with the Asian time zone?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so a lot of people are looking to work that out or you'll hear people notes.
Like in Abe Combs, for example, you'll hear comments from people saying, well, we hope you can make it more available to Asians.
And they say, we'll try to figure that out.
What we have determined, you know, largely through trial and error is that 6 a.m. Pacific Daylight Time, all right, in North America, which is very early for me, seems to be the sweet spot, which is 9 p.m. in Asia.
And it's noted by the Asian constituency that the Asian habits are a little different, right?
So where they work a little bit later and then retire to, you know, home, family, kids and stuff and then go do a little bit more work.
And so that's a really good time to pick up on another little round of work.
And so that's been the sweet spot.
It is difficult for me, again, because I, you know, to get those comms in, people asking or giving last minute comms, I have to wake at 4.20 a.m. now on, you know, Monday mornings to get it going.
But I think that really is the sweet spot to get it together with Asians.
Not so good for European people.
By the way, I just wanted to mention that the overlapping and, you know, the urgency of getting people to these stages or whatever sometimes creates opportunity cost issues.
And I actually had an interview set up with Luca from Pudgy Penguins, which I actually had to ghost the DMs on because I got hemmed up with other things and overwhelmed.
So I got to apologize if you can pass that along and hope to do a space at some point.
But, yeah, it's just been really overwhelming because of that.
And it's overwhelming. That's what I mean for these other founders like Polygon and have whoever has to put some else on hold to be there for the space too.
It's wild. But, yeah, it's 6 a.m.
Love it.
I think for me personally, I was like, there's a massive gap for the Asia time zone for a lot of quality and massive spaces.
And I'm glad to see you're definitely filling it in with the community and really bridging the gaps within the Web3 culture and sphere.
So, time has flown by today.
Literally, we're about to wrap up.
Mike, how are you feeling after today's space?
Excited and can't wait.
I think, once again, I feel so repetitive now, but it's just because of how excited I am with all these amazing partnerships that we have cooking and excited to see what the future brings with Tyler.
Tyler, I'll make sure to follow the number one rule and not speak about Mochaverse.
But what we'll do is we'll continue to build together.
We'll continue to build products for the people in the way that they want them.
And we're just super excited to let the whole world know what we've been cooking on the back end.
And right before we wrap up, just last time, just want to remind you, go take your Mocha IDs because if you don't, I'm going to just snatch them all.
So, let's go, guys.
Amazing stuff.
Tyler, any final words?
Final words would be stay tuned and there's so much interesting stuff that I want to cook with.
I was just, like, texting and WhatsAppping my team on, dude, like, we should do this with them and, like, let's make it happen.
And so, I'm going to work on that document and let's arrange a call as soon as possible because it's going to be fun.
Let's go.
Excited.
All right, guys.
I appreciate everyone that joined and you'll definitely be hearing about this again.
Appreciate everyone tuning in.
You could have been anywhere today, but you decided to join this space.
I'll catch you guys later.
Take care.
I'll catch you guys later.
I'll catch you guys later.
I can't wait now and around
You're out and out
I'm out of time
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