Good afternoon, Chuck. How's it going?
Perfect. Good to have you up on stage. See Larry in the audience.
Get this over with Penny.
All right. I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to text it to Omar as well.
See who else we can get in here.
All right. Perfect. There's Penny.
Okay. Cool. I see Kristin.
All right. We can hop into things.
There have been some Tesla updates.
They're incentivizing everybody to go buy a Model Y this winter season.
So there's some deal flow incentives.
Obviously, Chuck, there's been a lot of Elon talked to.
So I feel like we have plenty to go over here today.
I also, I was chatting with Omar this weekend.
I'm probably buying a Tesla sooner than later.
So maybe we can do some community shopping up here as a crew,
and you all can walk me through what you look for when going to purchase a Tesla.
So those are my main items on agenda today.
Omar, got you back up here.
I think we didn't have you last week.
So I want to come to you first,
maybe get some updates on what's been happening in the world of Tesla lately,
I know there were some price updates and things like that.
And then we can also talk a little bit about when buying a Tesla,
But yeah, Omar, you want to kick us off?
So the market's expectations.
I mean, I think the single most important thing for Tesla right now
to regain rising power, to improve consumer affordability,
and to continue to improve on their financials
is really for interest rates to start coming down.
So the pace at which interest rates come down
is probably the single most important thing
to happen for both the growth of Tesla's company and also for their stock.
When rates come down, you have lower financing costs.
So your monthly payment goes down.
You have better credit availability.
A lot of people can't get a loan.
If the interest rate and payments are too high, the bank will reject them.
So all of that will improve.
At the same time as rates come down, growth equity
will do better in the market compared to value stocks
or even just keeping your money in a bond or a savings account.
Now, after some of the Fed's comments, the market
got maybe a little bit overexcited about the potential for rate cuts
And it looks like we're not going to get any rate cuts in March now.
It's looking more like it might happen in the back half of the year.
So that's one of the main things that I'm looking at in terms
of Tesla's business and the stock price.
But I mean, generally, we're in an environment right now
where the growth is a little bit constrained by rates.
And we're seeing Tesla offer a lot of inventory discounts, promotions.
They're doing that $1,000 discount until the end of the month.
So they're really pushing forward with this affordability strategy,
which a lot of people, a lot of investors say, hey, this is a crazy idea.
You're making less money.
The earnings are contracting.
But on the streets, I mean, it really is incredible.
So many people are getting a Tesla for the first time.
I see so many new orders.
I see so many people like you who are looking into it for the first time.
And you've got this $7,500 point of sale credit on the Model Y now.
For a few years now, EVs have been around the average price of a luxury car.
Now they're around the average price of a non-luxury car.
So it's a moment, really, that we've been waiting for for a long time.
And if you think back to the Roadster days, they said, look, we're making this car.
It's going to be an expensive car.
We want to use the money to make a more affordable car and use that money to make a more affordable
And that's exactly what they're doing, both on the new and used side.
And ordinary people can really get an EV now.
And not just an EV, but a great one that has cutting-edge AI.
So I think this is a really great thing.
And it's really good to see so many investors, so many customers getting their first Tesla,
so many people ordering the new Model 3, the new Model Y, taking advantage of the point
And I just think this strategy is actually going to serve us extremely well over time.
You can look at the earnings and say, OK, well, you lower the price, you're going to
And of course, that's true in the short term.
But I think if you can accelerate the pace of EV adoption, you can actually grow the
TAM much faster in a way that I think is going to be really beneficial long term.
And one of the greatest things about these cars, you can buy them, you can get three
I've been testing the FSD Beta 12.
I've been having some great drives that drove me to the airport to drop off galley.
We retried our famous stop sign that FSD Beta 11 ran.
And I incorrectly did not take over for.
So major improvements on a lot of different things.
We got 12.1.2 looking pretty good.
There is a new build of FSD, FSD Beta 12.2.
That's now started to roll out to Tesla employees.
And I'm hoping that one will be the one that goes out to all the early access testers.
So that would be a huge moment if we could get Chuck and we could get other people really
putting it through the paces outside of California and really getting a sense of what it can
And I'm really looking at that because I want to see what the what the gap is.
So I think that's one of the biggest questions is how quickly is FSD Beta 12 improving?
And we'll get our first data point on that with this second build.
So that's really interesting.
The last thing I wanted to mention is there was a Washington Post story today saying that
they have identified the first ever death on FSD Beta of some guy who crashed and they
said he had FSD on his car and his wife said he used to use it all the time.
But the thing that they didn't mention until later in the article is that the guy was drunk
driving and his passenger was drunk driving.
They blew a point to six three times the legal limit.
So I would really categorize this as a drunk driving death.
The fact that they're in a Tesla that has FSD and of course they didn't really prove
that it was on in the time or anything like that.
They're just kind of saying, OK, it was a Tesla with FSD.
Obviously the fact that it's a Tesla or the fact that it has FSD is not going to eliminate
all drunk driving deaths.
But don't drive drunk even if you don't you know, even if you have eight ass, that doesn't
mean you can drive drunk and ultimately you still have to take responsibility.
So you know, these guys at the Washington Post, Faze Siddiqui, especially, he's always
writing these stories, but you dig into the details and you usually find out it's almost
never a failure of the software.
And it is almost always ninety nine point nine nine percent of the time the human doing
And in this case, they were incredibly drunk.
And that's really the reason for the crash.
If anyone was sober, even if FSD, for example, tried to drive off the road or something,
they would take over and there wouldn't be an issue.
So I don't think this is really a cause for concern.
But I mean, that's why we're doing this.
We want to build a piece of software that's so good that nobody will ever drop die from
drunk driving again because the software will just make it impossible to crash.
So instead of being a reason why this technology is bad, I actually see it as a reason why
If anybody has any comments on that, feel free to jump in.
But if not, I'll flip one more question back at you, which is for those beginners and people
that are looking to maybe buy a Tesla, I came to you and I said, hey, listen, the most important
thing to me is that it can it can drive me around and I don't have to drive.
And your suggestion was the model why I'd just like to hear your thought process for
why the model why why it stands out.
And then for somebody new going and buying a Tesla, how big is that gap between what
they're getting on autopilot versus what you guys are getting on these early beta tester
You know, the model why is arguably the best car in the world right now.
And it's also the best selling car in the world.
And my roommate just bought one.
And it really combines an incredible amount of utility, right?
You've got tons of space, but you got the performance of a sports car.
You got safety, you got technology, pretty much everything you could want in a car.
And they've got this insane point of sale credit where the government will literally
pay $7,500 towards the purchase of your car.
And it's not a $7,500 tax credit like before, where you have to get it back at tax time.
You just get it right off the top.
So we're talking almost a 20% discount on the car paid for by the federal government
You just see a monthly payment that's lower and that's it.
So and then on top of that, their state incentives, like I know for you, your state has a $3,000
incentive on top of the $7,500.
So between the $7,500 and the $3,000 and the extra $1,000, you know, you're getting like
$11,000 off a car that's already, you know, only $44,000.
So we're really talking about a car that you can buy here in the $30,000 range, where if
you use a referral code, like the one I sent you, you're going to get three free months
And within that three months period, I'm pretty certain you're going to be rolling FSD beta
And I think you're going to be extremely impressed with how much it can actually do today.
I mean, already today can often take me from parking spot to parking spot, curb to curb
Will it do it every time without any mistakes that I have to take over for?
No, but it's evolving extremely rapidly.
And probably before you get rid of this Model Y, I would say it'll be driverless.
I definitely want to get some other thoughts in here too.
Maybe around, you know, hey, if somebody's new to buying one, how they should go about
looking through the process, what should matter to them?
Chuck, do you have thoughts on this?
And then maybe any other thoughts as well on the latest updates?
Well, first of all, thanks for having us.
Buying a Tesla, first of all, it's unlike any other car purchase you've ever done.
And when you do it, you're going to be like, there has to be more.
And which arguably puts in some of that panic you're talking about right now, like what
You know, you have a handful of choices on the wheels you want on, you know, the trims
that perhaps that you want and the tires and things like that.
So, you know, basically you need to settle up around that.
I own a Model Y. I have the like the 2500 VIN number Model Y from back in 2020.
And it is still a great car, even early production, the Y, you know, they had to fix a few things
You know, I had a little brake light that had some compensation, but mobile service
took care of every single one of those issues in my driveway, which is another thing to
You know, once you have this new car, mobile service is your friend, you know, there's
no reason to sit on something and go, Oh, I got to get that fixed.
So just take your phone out, you know, take a picture of it, send it in within a few minutes,
you're probably gonna have an answer of whether or not they need to have you come in or if
it can be fixed in the driveway.
And it's really a hassle free process.
I will say for someone that doesn't follow the Tesla community, it can probably even
be a little disorienting if you've never driven a Tesla, because really, they're just going
to give you the car and say, you know, congratulations, it's yours.
There really isn't a lesson involved with how to drive a Tesla.
There isn't a lesson involved with how to use the screen.
If you know the questions to ask, they'd be glad to answer them for you.
But with the exception of a service center that is very dedicated to giving you the time
that they know you might need, you're gonna have to ask those questions about how to use
the car ran into that with some elderly in-laws and things like that, where they really were,
you know, how do I, you know, engage this and drive it out of the lot kind of a thing
once they had purchased it, which is what I think can be solved with videos and YouTube.
And many of those sort of things just to kind of educate yourself.
You know, don't forget the user's manual, you know, we all jump in and like to do things,
but that user's manual has got everything that you are responsible for in that car.
Many of which are the FSD warnings and how to use autopilot, what traffic or where cruise
So the user's manual is your friend and for many of us, including myself, forcing myself
to get into the user's manual isn't always the first thing that you do.
But before you have a question, it's probably already answered in the user's manual.
Other things I'll just highlight here, FSD 12, Omar, you know, loving your videos.
And I can report that the Tesla 8S drivers are still here in Jacksonville.
I did not see them today.
It was a Georgia plated car this time I saw, but I've seen up to three cars at once driving
with various manufacturer plates, California, Georgia and Florida tags.
So they are either validating their grabbing data or something out here.
I did throw a jar of honey in my car and tried to run up and say thank you to one of these
guys and appreciate what they did.
And when he saw me, he like peeled out of their performance dials and shook his head
like Oh God, I can't talk to you.
So there's definitely a little bit of a communication protocol keeping it tight.
I think that they're under instructions for which also kind of aligns with why this group
Maybe there's a reason that it's not ready to go beyond you know, California where Omar
is and the small group of employees that has it in the areas where they're operating.
To deploy it to the wider tester group.
So but in any case in the past, the AS drivers have always been polite.
They would never show me anything, but they would say hi, yeah, we know who you are.
You know, it's cool to do this.
But this fella, unfortunately, just was either afraid or didn't want to talk or had been
given instructions to avoid.
But other than that, I haven't been able to get any sort of footage of the car doing any
of the turns and things like that just for timing with work.
But I just haven't been able to get cameras up while they're driving to give you any sort
of updates on how it's doing.
But the fact they're driving it I think is a great sign for progress.
And maybe the fact that I haven't seen them in the last couple days means that they're
building it or training it or something like that.
And we should get a version here in the next few days, hopefully.
But I've stopped getting myself all riled up for it's coming this weekend because those
weekends keep rolling by and it's a little frustrating to not have it as the weekend
In any case, glad to answer any questions.
Yeah, Chuck is the only guy mentioned in the FSD release notes and the only guy who has
ADAS testers specifically testing his left turn because it's so challenging and such
But I have noticed in my unprotected lefts, they're pretty good sometimes when they work.
But there's also a little more hesitation.
I've noticed it sort of getting stuck more and not making the left turn and requiring
an accelerator push or waiting too long compared to 11.
So I could see why maybe they want to do some fine tuning.
So they have a really impressive show with no regressions or hopefully very little before
they send it out to Chuck's car and the other early access testers.
So I hopefully see the sign that they're there as as the fact that they might actually roll
it out to the early access testers soon.
And then in terms of Wolf's car, of course, Wolf will help guide you through your Tesla
But one thing that they've also started doing recently is now when you get inside the car,
the car pops up a bunch of videos on the bottom of the screen and you can just tap those and
learn how to use the car.
It kind of gives you the sales pitch itself.
I think they added within the last few months or the last year.
Curious to hear from others on the stage who drive Teslas, which you're a fan of.
Penny, you want to chime in?
I bought my Model 3 at the worst possible time in terms of timing, but I've never been
so happy with the purchase.
It's better than every other car I've ever owned.
I've had BMWs, I've had all sorts of nice different cars.
But the Tesla is the whole package.
Even the little things, just the noise.
When I hear loud, non-electric cars drive by now, they're kind of annoying.
I'm just so used to how beautifully quiet my Tesla is.
And I know we're talking about the next version of FSD already, but version 11 that I have,
I drove for like six, seven hours this weekend without touching.
It took me to a gymnastics meet for my daughter.
I didn't have to touch the wheel or the accelerator on the drive there or the drive back except
Then I went to my family's for the Super Bowl and that was hours worth of driving as well.
And again, I didn't touch the accelerator, I didn't touch the wheel.
It's just like, it is a next level experience and I do live in California and maybe I'm
on the roads that it performs the best on.
But the fact is that it's performing and it will be performing everywhere.
I can't get enough of my Tesla.
I haven't been in the new Model 3 yet, but I know that people really love them.
I can't wait to try that out.
I mean, they're just such, such phenomenal cars.
Which one are you looking at?
Do you have a model in Meinwolf?
Yeah, I mean, so I was chatting with Omar and we were talking about the Model Y.
Do you want to make the case for Model 3 versus Model Y?
Well, you know, I wouldn't make a case for the 3 above the Y other than if you like the
way it looks or if you want the brand new one with the screen in the back or whatever.
I like to fit my car in small parking spots.
I like sporty sort of cars.
I don't put a bunch of stuff in the back anyway.
So I just didn't want an SUV, a small SUV, like I'll get a truck to do that sort of work.
I'm waiting for the Cybertruck and I can't wait to have a truck bed for when I want to
put more stuff in my car.
You know, if I was choosing between the two, yeah, I chose the Model 3 for the fact that
I think the price difference now is less and you can get a Model Y for closer to the same
And then, yeah, like I mentioned, if you want a smaller car, that's it.
Otherwise, the Y is the greatest.
I actually like the 3 better personally.
I've always been more of a sedan person.
The Model 3 has also been upgraded as ventilated seats.
It has a screen in the rear.
So that's definitely worth taking a look at, too.
The reason I recommended the Model Y is that it qualifies for that point of sale credit
where you get $7,500 off.
So that's going to help a lot with depreciation, right?
If that credit goes away or something, then you've got this car that still has a lot of
value because essentially the government paid for 20% of it.
I mean, this point of sale credit is just too good of a deal.
A deal like this has never existed for EVs in the United States where you go buy a $40,000
car and you pay $32,000 and the government just pays the rest as a down payment for you.
And you just walk out of there paying $32,000 plus tax.
So definitely would recommend the Model Y just for the fact that you get that point of
Either one that wants to go first.
I was just going to say I am personally a fan of the three.
It's great if you have little children and you need more space.
You don't want to hit your head on the door when you're putting them in the car seats.
But the Model 3, I mean, I agree with the saying that it kind of is like a sporty or smaller S.
And I very much love the nimbleness and the quickness of the Model 3.
And I think that I enjoy the way it takes the turns and the curves a little bit more
But I mean, the Model Y, it's a nice big roomy car.
If you're doing outdoor activities, it's great.
If you've got a big dog, it's really great.
If you've got a lot of kids, a lot of friends, it's great.
But I know a lot of people that still enjoy sitting in the backseat of the Model 3 and
But it's personally my favorite.
And I find it just a little bit better on the turn.
It's got to be probably the most fun Tesla to drive, honestly,
just because it's so quick and nimble.
So Omar, I'm looking on the website that you sent me on the Tesla inventory.
Can't see any new Model 3s in my area.
So they're in short supply.
Is it what's your thoughts on new versus used?
Well, I wouldn't buy a used one.
I mean, you can definitely get a great deal on a used one.
But honestly, the new ones are so cheap right now.
I would just go with those.
And so the new Model 3 is all upgraded.
The used ones are probably going to be the old version.
So nothing special there.
So where can I buy a new one?
Well, you can just order one on the website.
I'll walk you through it.
We'll FaceTime after this and we'll find you the perfect car, dude.
With the three remotes of FSD and everything.
I think the three is a little sexier to me.
Oh, man, you're going to love that.
And you got the refresh, too.
Is it just classic Stealth Gray or is this extra...
The Stealth Gray looks gorgeous, honestly.
I don't know if I'm a red car kind of guy.
No, no, go with the Stealth Gray.
It looks like almost black, but it's not as hard to clean as black.
So it's a really good free color.
So there's 18-inch Photon wheels and the 19-inch Nova wheels.
I would just go with the standard wheels as they are cheaper and they also are more comfortable
and they give you a longer range.
So wait, why are the more expensive wheels less range?
Well, the wheels matter a lot in electric cars.
But a lot of people think they don't like the look of the standard wheels,
but they're the most aerodynamic and they have these covers you can pull off.
So if you want to pull them off, you can pop them right on and off.
Put them on for a road trip.
Take them off if you're driving around town.
So I recommend the standard wheels, honestly.
Best range, best comfort.
They look nicer to me, the standard.
Yeah, if you like the way they look, then go for it.
I feel like black interiors move.
White interior just scares me.
Things are going to get stained.
No, no, no, not an issue.
It's ceramic coated around the white seats.
You can spill wine there.
You can smash a watermelon.
You know, there's videos of people doing it.
I have white on all my Teslas.
If you're a black person and you like black, then that's fine.
But white is probably the better option, honestly.
It actually hides lint, too.
It's actually pretty good.
Okay, I mean, I don't mind the black interior.
The white's an extra thousand to have black and white.
Selena, did you have any comments?
Well, it sounds like he's maybe decided.
I was just going to weigh in.
I have a why and I absolutely love it.
Yeah, if you have younger children or more passengers,
there's a lot more cargo space.
It's much easier to get in and out of if you're a little older.
I like that feature because it's a little higher up.
So I was on a road trip a while ago.
I had my mother or daughter, a lot of luggage,
and then we needed to swap at the service center.
They gave me a three loaner, which was really tight,
getting our luggage in there.
But it was much more fun to drive.
So I think it comes down to, you know, I mean,
the incentive on the Y is really nice,
but the three is definitely more fun to drive.
If you don't need the room, if you ever think you might camp in it,
definitely go with the Y.
I know you can do it in the three as well,
but it's a little less head space, I guess.
But yeah, I mean, either car will be you're going to love it.
So and definitely get the white interior.
It cleans up beautifully.
I actually had mobile service here last week
and the tech was showing me some some cleaning tips
and what to use and it works really great.
But as long as you kind of stay on top of it
and give it a wipe down once in a while, it's great.
Hey, Wolf, I think definitely get the white interior
You know, like I love the white interior on my car
and I think it cleans up really easily,
but it was what I was wanting and I was wanting it enough
that I was willing to pay the extra thousand.
Worth it for the extra thousand in your eyes.
Yes, but it was like definitely what I absolutely clearly wanted.
It was a no brainer for me.
I would have maybe paid a little bit more.
But, you know, if if you're wanting black anyway,
then obviously save the save the thousand.
The black, the black does seem clean to me.
I mean, I'm with most of these folks suggesting the Model Y
I think really you're going to be happy with either one.
But I think Omar hit the nail on the head where he said at the moment,
It's just such a good deal with the $7,500 credit at point of sale.
So, you know, there's a reason that the crossover SUV market is the best
or one of the best selling classes in the US.
I think it's really just a matter of preference.
But then it's like with the $7,500 credit,
it's kind of like, do you do you want the new refresh three $7,500 worth?
You know, because like that's kind of what you're comparing it to
because you don't get that with the three versus you do with the Y at the moment.
So it makes the pricing pretty similar.
If you want the best deal, right?
If you want a TV in your backseat where your backseat passengers can watch
Netflix as you drive around, you want a silent, really well built car,
the latest, you know, Tesla, then get the three.
But you're going to be paying a little bit more for that, probably.
I thought that you're seeing the three is more expensive than the Y.
Well, the three is actually cheaper than the Y, but because of federal incentives,
the Y is actually cheaper.
Wait, do you make less than one hundred fifty thousand wolf?
Well, then it doesn't matter.
That was going to be are you are you married?
Can you find a girl with no income to marry so that it goes up to three hundred thousand?
Don't don't don't let my girlfriend hear this conversation.
Might be a good time to propose.
You could then claim the federal tax credit with the three hundred thousand dollar income limit.
I'm sure she'd agree with you.
But then the question is, how much does the engagement ring cost?
That could totally throw off the equation.
You think you can just engage with a Tesla like I got.
Yeah, if you don't qualify, then you might just go for the three.
Are you near service like a Tesla store?
Because I think drivability is huge, like that feel.
And and that's the really the only way to tell is to drive both of them.
And you're going to notice differences.
They're both really great.
But the three is just kind of another level of.
How do I find the closest Tesla store near me that I can test that?
They have a test drive thing on the website.
Just Google like Tesla test drive.
Yeah, if you book it through there, then I get some points.
I see you can schedule a demo test drive.
Always pleasantly surprised to see this deep dive every Tuesday.
So thank you for doing this.
I have a black with a black interior.
I have a white with a white interior.
I also have nine kids and a dog.
It's a lot easier to keep that white one clean, I think.
But, you know, they clean so easy.
My wife loves her white car because she washes it way less than I wash my white car
But really, you're going to notice that thousand dollars probably comes comes to
help you when you resale.
I find the white interior is a little more desirable for the resale.
But 18 inch rims will save you a ton of money on tires as well.
So that's the only difference between three and why.
For me, the tires on the on the wise and 19 inch.
But the 18 inch tires, we get great mileage on them.
So some things to consider there.
But definitely the I think the long range model three
is the absolute best value car on earth outside of the U.S. right now.
I went ahead and pinned the link to the top where you can order a Tesla
and get three free months of FSD or schedule a demo drive.
Yeah, I was going to say I have an S and X and I just test drove the new Highland,
which is the new model three.
And I got to say over the Y, I'd take the model three, the new model three,
just because it has the latest tech in it.
And these cars are all about tech.
So even though I understood you wouldn't qualify for the rebate,
but even if you did qualify for the rebate,
the depreciation on older hardware may even be.
It's not worth it in my opinion.
I'd go with a brand new model three.
My own gripe about the model three is the trunk opening is a little quarter trunk
versus a hatch trunk in the Y.
The Y is amazing with the trunk.
But that's why I went with an S, obviously, because as a hatch trunk,
but it's a lot more expensive.
But if you want a car today and you want to be in that 30 to 40K range,
the model new model three cannot be beat.
And I have white seats in all my cars and it's the easiest to clean, honestly.
The white seats are easy to clean.
Thankfully, I well, you know what?
Maybe someday I'll have a dog in the back of there.
But yeah, I'm taking a look through some of these areas.
On the note of white interior, the tech that was recently here also said,
yeah, it's very easy to keep clean.
But just stay away from jeans from, I believe it was Old Navy and H&M
because they transfer, they're not very well-dyed,
they tend to transfer and not come off so easy.
So if that can help anyone, just there's a fact.
I haven't had a problem with jeans coming off on the seats, but typically it's not an issue.
Penny, did you unmute for a second there?
I'm just trying to figure out ever since you said it,
how far you live from a Tesla showroom that you don't even know where the closest one is.
I know where the closest three are to my house.
So there's a difference here.
How far do you have to go?
Yeah, that's a good question.
To be honest, I don't really leave this room much.
I mostly sit in here and host Twitter spaces.
Then you're going to love mobile service.
They come to you and fix your car wherever you are.
I don't leave this room a whole lot.
What's up, anything, Tesla?
I was just going to say, if you go to detailers,
there's OptiGuard coatings that you can put the ceramic coating for the seats.
And you don't even have to worry about blue team transfer.
I just take baby wipes, wipe it every week.
I just wipe the seats down and you're golden.
All right, Sawyer's here.
Sawyer, if you were talking to somebody like me, perhaps,
that was looking to buy their first Tesla,
and they were between the Model Y and the Model 3,
how would you weigh the decisions?
What's your preferences when it comes to each one?
And then interior color, things like that.
How do you go thinking about it?
What I always tell people is, if you need the extra space,
you just have to go with the Y.
Otherwise, even though the new 3 doesn't qualify for the new EV credit,
I would say go with that just because there's so many improvements,
both on the exterior, but also on suspension, ride quality.
There's acoustic class all the way around.
All those little things I feel like are worth,
despite the Model Y probably being less expensive,
just because it does qualify for that EV tax credit.
But if you need the space, go with the Y.
They're both incredible cars.
I mean, I still think with the Model 3,
there's still a trunk of some sort, right?
If I'm traveling, I can throw my suitcases in the back there.
When you say I need extra space,
is that like, I have six kids or something like that?
I mean, if you plan on hauling around more bulky items,
or if you do have kids, which I know you don't,
then yeah, you would go with the Y.
But if it's just like you, then I would just get the 3.
Here's the thing though, even the 3 has a crazy amount of space
because there's no engine.
You have all these components.
You have the trunk, the under trunk, and the seats actually fall down.
So there have even been times where I have to transport
these crazy long furniture items or something.
I fall down the seats in my 3,
and it's got an incredible amount of utility even for a sedan.
Yeah, I was going to say the same thing.
The 3 carries an enormous amount of stuff.
I mean, I've had two 3s and I have an X.
And I have an X because I do these long road trips.
But actually, and my wife, who wanted the X
because she paints and she has large artworks,
she discovered the 3 is just as good for her.
I mean, it's got amazing capacity to carry stuff.
So if you never leave that room,
I can't imagine why you would need an Y versus a 3.
Well, you know, I'll leave you in the future.
He's going to be giving spaces while it's self-driving him around, obviously.
That's actually why I need a self-driving car,
is to maximize space is hosting time.
I'll just have a plug in Starlink and just head into the wild.
I also am looking at Starlink
because I'm moving to Puerto Rico later this year.
So I got to have that too.
Omar, do you know if the Teslas, they got it down in Puerto Rico.
Yeah, I mean, I think they have superchargers there.
Yeah, I have a friend, a very good friend who has a 3 in Puerto Rico.
Enough charging stations, you think that I won't have a problem?
All right, Penny, I found it.
I'm 15 minutes away from a Tesla dealership.
It's a long way for you, huh, Wolf?
15 minutes, that's like, yeah, that's a while.
But yeah, no, I could see myself taking a gander over there
and seeing what catches my fancy.
It's actually two doors down from a Duncan,
so I can knock out two tasks at once there.
Larry, what's on your mind?
Cybertruck, Cybertruck, Cybertruck.
So I learned this morning that a friend at Tesla owner
who actually ordered his Cybertruck after I did
is getting his in Charlotte, North Carolina.
I'm in Raleigh, North Carolina.
This is incredibly exciting because this is the first Cybertruck
outside of California and Texas,
with exception of the one that went to Tennessee.
So it's more than possible that I'll get notified
within the next couple of days
because he actually got his order form
like the day after I did.
So I'm hoping that means I'm going to get it
And it's a race because if I get my order form,
then the question is when do they deliver
because I'm trying to get down to the launch of IFT3
and I don't want to be away when they deliver.
And then on the 1st of April,
I'm leaving the country for three months
and I just don't know what I'll do.
I mean, I may have to cancel this trip
that's been planned for over a year.
This is a very difficult situation.
It's a very difficult situation.
Those are the best of first world problems, Larry.
I know, but it's one of these really difficult decisions
I can't wait for the Cybertruck.
And actually, this is more exciting
than even the very first one I got.
Guys, I just got a Cybertruck van.
All these guys, I wish they wouldn't even tell me.
No, I'm thinking maybe I should take it to Starbase
for that Starship launch.
But yeah, I drove somebody Cybertruck.
Somebody took delivery in the Bay Area
They said, hey, come over
and they let me drive it for a little bit.
I mean, it's just incredible.
It's clearly the best Tesla they've ever made.
I mean, I cannot wait to get mine.
Let me ride with you to Starbase.
Can I just go back to Wolf's decision on the three
I was just looking up like inventory prices
To get a new three long range would be $9,000
than to get a brand new Model Y long range.
Wolf might not qualify, though, for the credit.
Oh, he doesn't propose to his girlfriend.
Yeah, he doesn't qualify.
So you're saying the 7,500 credit?
So the government's lied to me.
Um, what's what do you guys use as the best way
to find where superchargers are?
I'm on supercharge.info slash map right now.
Go to Tesla.com slash find us.
They've got the full map there.
Okay, I'm looking in a like San Juan area
to see if they've got some stuff going on over there.
By the way, if you're in the audience, stop roasting me
for being careful about my decisions here
I'm just doing due diligence.
Will they live in an apartment or a home?
I currently live in a home, but it's getting sold soon.
So probably an apartment end of year, kind of.
Okay, so when you look for your next apartment,
just make sure either the garage has plug outlets
or that they allow charging.
You don't even have to worry about superchargers.
But the other great thing about the Teslas
is when you program a navigation point,
if you need to go to a charger, it'll set the charger on the way.
So are you going to be living in?
Where are you going to be living in Puerto Rico?
What are we talking here?
Yeah, there's the code to get in.
We'll come in and inspect the garage.
Anyway, so I will be in Isla Verde,
which is basically Condado, which is like the popular area.
It's like the city, San Juan.
I actually don't see too many Tesla superchargers over there.
I see a couple that are closer to like,
yeah, probably like 20, 30 minute drive away.
So I guess is the move like when you buy it,
are you also buying a charger or something coming with it?
How are you setting it up?
You have to buy the charger.
So you can get a wall charger for 250.
Or you can get a mobile connector for 230 or something like that.
And it comes with a 110 pigtail in it.
So you can switch it to 220 once you figure out your situation
Because 220 is probably what you want to charge on.
But on the 110, you'll get about four miles per hour.
Yeah, I charge almost exclusively just on the mobile charger.
I have it plugged into a regular outlet in my garage.
It's all that I have because I'm in an apartment with a,
you know, just like not the best electrical setup.
But with that, overnight, I get enough where it usually covers
more than what I drive in a day.
And even when I go on long trips, like to go visit my family or whatever,
by the time I come back, sales still have like 25%.
And over the course of a week, it'll inch its way back up,
And I never even have to go to a supercharger once in a while.
If I go really far, I need to deal with it.
But I have the slowest possible charging and I have, you know,
So I'm picking them up and dropping them off all the time.
And I still very, very rarely need to do any supercharging.
The mobile charger there or the wall connector fuel,
I think for your case, it's better to get the mobile charger.
It is slightly discounted when you buy the car.
It's a little bit more expensive when you buy it from the Tesla store after the fact.
I got some questions on FSD, but Drew, I see your hand up.
So we'll take that first.
Yeah, I was just going to say, if you're moving,
it is the verdict that's just over that way.
I think they just got one.
But they'll work with it.
I see a ton of non-Tesla chargers all over the place.
Blink ones, charge point.
I see a lot of the other non-Tesla chargers.
So you can still charge up on those, right?
You have no problem as long as you have the adapter.
And also, if you're going to be in Isla Verde,
I doubt you're going to be driving a lot.
You're going to be walking all around there.
I mean, unless you want to go hit the rainforest, stuff like that.
So that's not even that far.
You should totally be good doing everything there.
I mean, the entire island, you can drive across in two and a half hours.
So it's not like there's a lot of space to drive.
So let me get your thoughts on this.
So when you're buying the Tesla on the website,
it shows a couple of options when it comes to these things.
So there's enhanced autopilot for $6,000.
There's full self-driving capability for $12,000.
It says your car will be able to drive itself almost anywhere
with minimal driver intervention and will continuously improve.
And it includes all the stuff from basic autopilot,
which is navigation, auto lane change, auto park,
And now it adds auto steer and traffic light and stop sign control.
How do you kind of decide between these two things?
Or how would you advise someone to look at them?
Enhanced autopilot, I feel like is not really worth the $6,000,
to be honest, especially because some of the features
still aren't available for people just with vision-based systems.
But if you want FSD beta, you have to sort of cough up the 12 grand
for the full self-driving capability.
Just use the link and get three months free.
And then they've got a deal.
So if you can refer one person every quarter,
they'll give you another three months free.
So you could technically just keep using it for years without paying for it.
So that's why I would recommend just not buying it and using my link.
And then you're all good.
So don't think his link will work for a three, though.
Because it's a brand new car, and Tesla knows that's a money grab,
so they know that people just buy it.
Okay, so it sounds like try out FSD for a few months.
And then you can also pay month by month, right?
I mean, it would take you a long time.
That 12K number, is that right?
Well, if the other way to look at it...
It's the other way to look at it.
If you do consider buying either package, the enhanced autopilot or FSD after the fact,
you could open up a new credit card that needs like $3,000 or $6,000 spent,
and you just put it all in that credit card, and you get your instant points.
I could use another credit card.
But just make sure when you do your deductibles from insurance to let them know you've actually
Because if you don't let them know the MSRP, what the car was sold at,
that's what they're going to value.
So if you ever get totaled, someone hits you.
You want to let your insurance know that you added that package as well.
All right, two other questions here.
One of them, I feel like we kind of addressed a little bit, which was the charging.
So while connectors 475, mobile connectors 230, do you guys recommend buying both to have both?
Get the mobile connector.
The mobile connector is like a power cord, the same as what you have with your phone.
So if you have an apartment, you can plug in while you're parked.
If you got a 220 volt outlet, it'll be able to charge faster than you can sleep.
And even with a 110 volt outlet, if you're not driving a lot, you can definitely get by with that.
So you have a charger at home, you drive as much as you want every day.
You come back, you plug in and you drive as much as you want tomorrow.
It saves you a ton of time.
Superchargers are really for road trips.
That'll get plotted out in your navigation automatically.
But your day to day ideally is going to be just plugging in where you park every night.
And I would add that once you get the car and you have your own referral link,
just all you need to do is just get one referral or one person use your referral.
And then you can redeem a free wall connector for 9,000 credits in the referral.
Well, and with your situation, you said you're moving around a bit a little bit.
So I would say the mobile connector is way better
because a wall connector you have to hire an electrician to put in.
The mobile connector just plugs in like a plug.
So for all those that are following along, we have kind of gone through some of the different models.
And then we've walked through pretty much everything.
Paint, wheels, interior, autopilot, charging.
These are all the options that it basically lays out for you
when it comes to some of these different pieces.
Sawyer, which one do you drive currently?
I actually don't have a Tesla.
You gonna buy one with me?
How soon are you getting yours?
I got a flight out to Vegas on Thursday.
I don't have time to go test before then.
So it's gonna be in like two weeks until I can actually come back and test,
You can do it in Vegas for sure.
Well, maybe I'll do that.
Omar comes down, takes take the town by storm.
Driving the Cybertruck around Vegas.
Oh, what are you there for?
Is there some convention or something going on?
Oh, actually, so I'm coming for like the first three, four days,
actually for a men's mental health retreat, physical and mental.
So I thought that that was gonna be kind of fun.
I need a little break, to be honest.
So coming for that few days.
And then I had a client that wanted me out there to go check out some gold mines in Nevada.
The week after, they're a gold miner.
And I was like, I don't really want to fly back across the country and then fly back to Vegas.
I'm just going to be holed up in the Vidara, just hosting spaces like a maniac.
So, you know, so low key.
There's no casino in there, but they have these epic rooms that are pretty cheap.
Wait, are you gonna do it too?
You're gonna buy the car.
Knowing that the Model Y refresh is likely 11 months away.
I feel like that's the move, especially because it'll be 50% off the or cheaper than a Cybertruck.
You're waiting for the Model Y refresh.
Do you have a different car now?
Yeah, I own my car outright right now, which is why I haven't gone to Tesla,
because I don't want to add that payment on to my life until the refresh while I come to that.
For me, I mainly waited on getting a car because there's so many people that I live near.
It's like, I just never need to have my own car.
My brother, it's like, hey, I need your car.
My girlfriend can use your car.
You know, my parents like, okay, I need a car.
It's just like, there's always a car around.
But at some point, there won't be.
Yeah, I have lots of family members who have Teslas, so I often just borrow theirs.
I have driven a Tesla before.
Do all the Teslas have the regenerative braking?
Yes, Sawyer is the Model Y in the family.
Omar, last question for you.
Why is it such a big deal to get the VIN?
You put up the post and 10 minutes later, you have like 400 likes.
Well, you know, when they give you a VIN, it really means that there's an actual car
that's been made that's sort of assigned to you.
So it means that you're probably about to take delivery relatively soon compared to
Is it like within like a month type soon?
Yeah, I could probably see myself having it within a month.
Do you, what's it called?
Once you get the Cybertruck, do you have any cool plans,
content or other stuff you think you're going to do?
Yeah, I'm going to drive it across the country from L.A. to New York and maybe go to Starbase.
Are you going to, you should live stream this.
Meet people from all across the country, show them the Cybertruck.
Don't have to worry about it getting scratched up too much.
Yeah, that's stainless steel.
What color were you considering getting?
Because, you know, one thing, if I were you and I was going to have it in Puerto Rico,
is I would totally go white all the way.
I had a black Tesla before I had the white colored one interior as well.
And it made such a difference when it was just sitting out there in the sun.
And if you're not going to be under a parking garage or anything,
and it was actually noticeable just to kind of have the air conditioning running all day
just to keep it at a normal temperature from overheating in the car too.
So I think it's a little tiny something to consider there.
They do have the, Omar, they do have where you can cool it down though now, right?
Yeah, you just open the app, even if it's in a garage or anything,
just hit a button, it preconditions.
And you're already thinking of white seats.
So that's going to be cool enough.
And then if you did your windows even further, you're golden.
I don't know if I would be driving around like an all white car.
It scares me a little bit.
I think you scrape scrape one thing and everyone can see.
Yeah, I was gonna say white shows all the dirt, but the stealth gray,
the new stealth gray is beautiful because it color changes kind of in the sun.
So like Omar was saying is like, he looks black to gray and it just,
it's an all like nice color and it's free.
Yeah, stealth gray is new.
It's gorgeous and it's free.
So for most people, I'd recommend that.
Yeah, no, I like the outline of this.
This all makes sense to me.
Some of the different pieces.
While I have you swear kind of a side question.
You know, Tesla dropping prices a little bit.
Do you see that continuing throughout the next year?
Oh, I think I think we're pretty near the bottom here with the Y.
He'll be honest, like if you include the federal tax credit,
like the model wide pricing is down roughly 43% from its high in October 2022.
So I think we're sort of near the bottom here.
They're getting close to cogs.
So they don't really have the headroom to cut 20% again.
And they made some comments to that effect on the call.
They said, look, we're kind of getting to the limits of this platform.
We really need the next gen platform to really continue to bring it down.
So I do agree with Sawyer that we're sort of getting near the bottom here.
I expect once they do start producing the compact crossover,
they may actually refocus the model Y up market and it may actually get more expensive.
So this is kind of the golden time to get a model Y.
The cheapest model Y you could get in like October of 2022 was $66,000.
Right now, including the federal tax credit, it's about $38,000, which is a night and day difference.
Well, and I was going to say, Wolf, I don't know if Puerto Rico is old town
and it's got tight little roads, but I think three would be more enjoyable to drive in that setting.
It's like if the US has good roads and there's like places that are terrible,
it's like somewhere in the middle from what I've seen.
I have not driven extensively there.
I mean, I spent a little bit of time, like a month, but we are at 1 p.m. Eastern
and I appreciate you all taking the time to educate me.
And I really hope that this was helpful for the audience.
We probably just sold like 10 Teslas, to be honest.
It's pinned in the top of the space.
If you're looking to schedule a test drive or anything along those lines,
hit these people up on stage.
Clearly, they know plenty about it and the majority of them are driving Teslas already.
I am going to have another space coming up after this, but big thank you as always to
Sawyer and Kristin, Chuck, Lena, anything Tesla, everyone that hopped on.
Chuck, I know we didn't get to the Elon stuff, but we can save it maybe for next week
We kept it light today, kept it fluffy.
Penny, you got any other comments for everyone's my next one?
Can't wait to see which car you choose.
And good luck with the move to Puerto Rico, too.
Yeah, that's not for like another eight, nine months.
But yeah, I'm excited for it.
I'm pretty done with the cold, if I'm being honest.
Also, the time zone is absolutely elite.
Puerto Rico doesn't change their clocks.
So six months of the year, you're an hour ahead of EST and you're four hours ahead of
You can wake up at 6am, 7am there, and it's literally like 2, 3am on the West Coast.
So you just get a nice head start.
Okay, we're going to roll into my next one.
Stick around with us here.
Going to continue talking a little bit of investing type talk.
And maybe investing in a Tesla, investing in your future.
Maybe these are kind of one in the same.
So I'm bringing up a couple more speakers that are going to be hanging out with us.
Jason, good to have you up on stage.
To be honest, Jason, we're getting a little bit close to the conference that we've been
talking about for a little bit.
So I wanted to just have a kind of like a deep dive space here for those that haven't
gotten familiar with it before.
Just go through everything that we're looking forward to.
I'll give some context to it and some pieces like that.
And we can take it from there if that works for you.
I just realized I'm on the wrong account.
I'm going to switch to the conference account.
Let me roll us a little bit into this.
So first off, love all the Tesla talk.
If you like Tesla talk, we do it every week.
Tuesdays, 12 p.m. Eastern.
Next week will be at 12 p.m. Eastern in two weeks.
But we've been doing them Tuesdays and they've continued to just be awesome.
So I really, really, really appreciate everyone coming on for that.
Speaking at in less than a month and attending.
We're bringing up the account right now.
You could see a couple of the other speakers are on stage with us as well
And we're going to talk a little bit about investing really in yourself
and your future and how going to in-person events and networking with the right people
To be honest, I think all the Tesla folks are pretty familiar with this, right?
Like you've seen what Elon and others have done where they invest in themselves,
they invest in their futures, they meet people in person,
they take things to the next level.
So this is happening on March 8th and 9th in Orlando, Florida.
As you're aware, that's less than a month away.
There's a variety of really, really cool speakers that are going to be on stage.
I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to pin some info about the conference.
But this is really last call, to be honest.
You're wanting to buy your ticket probably this week
so that you can make plans to come out and things along those lines.
If you're anywhere near Orlando, Florida, there should be a no-brainer.
If your flight's less than 100, 200 bucks to get there,
I think it's still a no-brainer.
I think you're going to easily recoup that investment.
But Jason, while I'm posting this up top, let me turn it over to you.
You've been putting a lot of work in to get this ready
so you can lay out for everyone the vision of what you put together.
Things are crazy right now.
My checklist is just growing by the day.
It just seems like it's always something else
when you're putting together a big event, right?
So for those of you that don't know, the World Web 3 conference has six tracks.
Web 3 technology, blockchain, metaverse,
cryptocurrency, NFT, utility, and AI automation.
And we've got all of those bases covered with our exhibitors and our speakers.
We've teamed up with Cryptos R Us, who's going to be hosting
the Friday Night Networking Mixer at Club 39,
which is on site at the Rosen Plaza Hotel.
This is where it's all happening, by the way.
From 8 p.m. to 12 a.m., everyone's invited.
If you have a ticket to the conference, you're in.
So it's not just a VIP thing.
Saturday morning, that's going to be the 9th.
That kickstarts the actual conference at 8 a.m.,
and it runs till 6 p.m. with the main stage cooking the whole time.
Basically, I chopped up all the speaker blocks into 20-minute segments, more or less.
I do have some 15-minute segments here and there, and I have some space.
I have, like, three held spaces for projects.
We're talking of Flux, the SUI Foundation,
and then what's the other one?
They're pending right now, so hopefully we can get them on the main stage.
We also have RightStream coming in.
They're going to be live streaming for us,
so we'll send out that link a little bit closer to the conference once we get that going.
He's going to be kickstarting the conference for us with unpacking Web 3.
Mika Bellini will be doing intelligent AI systems for business.
We've got blockchain and gaming NFTs for Nikolas Hiddelbrand.
Brian Harris is doing screenwriting for artificial intelligence.
Metamona and Andrew Wall, they'll be doing a Web 3 marketing masterclass.
JQ and Edward Ponton, they used to run...
Well, JQ used to run Janet Jackson's record label for, I think it was, like, 15 years,
They're doing a whole thing on Web 3 music.
I've got my Orlando team, Paul Siqueur, Anna Gander-A-Brua.
They're doing NFT utility.
We have more business automation and AI from Ivan Mercado, Johanna Morello, Sean Gels,
They're both lawyers, and they do compliance in Web 3 law.
Samuel Arms, you may have actually saw Samuel Arms today if you were watching Discover Crypto.
And so, Sam Arms and Crypto Wendy O, they're going to be doing a nice segment on the dangers
of CBDCs, one of my favorite topics.
Scott Herman will be there from Wagme Games.
He'll be doing Web 3 gaming.
We're doing demystifying airdrops.
We're talking about entrepreneurship in the Web 3 space.
We've got Sharon Noller and Phil Falcone.
Phil Falcone is the guy who basically saved Spectrum from bankruptcy and made it what
And they are now creating blockchain TV, which is a whole new thing that they've invented.
So they're doing a segment.
We've got Karate Combat, Cryptos R Us, and the Influencer Fight Club all on stage.
And then we have Stefan Langfeld.
He's going to be doing like a Web 3 in general, kind of like a summation.
At the end, he's kind of one of our last keynotes.
And Stefan Langfeld ran all of iTunes for Apple in all of Europe.
And then we have a live performer coming on stage, Goldie Hart.
We have a dinner, a steakhouse dinner at Jack's Place for VIP members.
There's only 75 seats available in that.
That runs from 6 to 9 p.m.
And then after all that, we have an after party at Club 3.9 from 8 p.m. to 11 p.m.
If you send a message to Wolf or Dave, they will hook you up with an outstanding discount
to tickets, unbeatable price for the conference.
We've got a lot going on.
And I'm not going to lie, I'm feeling a little overwhelmed.
There's a lot on my plate.
And I'm just doing my best to kick ass.
So I appreciate all your support.
And Wolf and Dave, I know you guys will be there.
And I know some of the other audience members will definitely be there.
So I'm looking forward to meeting you guys in person.
And yeah, Puerto Rico is the move, huh?
Definitely looking forward to really good stuff there.
Appreciate you kicking us off.
While Jason was talking, I got this stuff pinned up in the top of the space.
So if you're in the space, take a second.
Go to the top and check that link so you can see really just the expansiveness of this conference.
By the way, cheapest tickets that I've really ever seen at a conference of this size.
Just email the word conference and I'll send you a discount code as well.
Let's get some thoughts from those on stage.
Lucas, you're going to be a featured speaker at this.
What do you plan on covering?
And can you cover me the importance of attending these in-person events
and how it is investing in yourself and your future?
Yeah, I definitely talk about going to in-person events.
It's the final step in building a relationship.
You can be on Twitter spaces here and communicate like crazy.
But there's nothing that connects you more than meeting people in real life at a conference.
Basically, building that final layer of trust.
I think that's what's so powerful about in real life networking in general.
Like I said, you could talk for days, weeks, months, years, and you still just don't get
the entire picture until you actually meet each other in real life.
That's when real business actually happens.
Real business does happen over the phone and over video chat.
We've gotten there, obviously.
But the real conversations, the real partnerships that last a long time that actually work really,
really well is meeting in real life.
Most stuff actually happens in real life.
Almost everybody that wants to go into business with you
is going to want to meet you in real life eventually,
especially if they're spending a good amount of money.
I would recommend leveraging the heck out of this conference to the point where
you have back-to-back meetings.
You go and you basically check a lot of boxes off in one go.
You could meet 10 or 15 people, 20 people on here, and meet them all in one place.
That's what's cool about these centralized events like this.
You get to meet everybody all at once.
You get to kill 100 birds with one stone and come back from an event like this,
knowing you've made amazing connections probably for the rest of your life.
When you do meet in real life, it just changes the dynamic of that relationship as well.
When I met Wolf in real life, I think we first met,
and correct me if I'm wrong, Wolf, in Vegas.
Yeah, and it was a pretty cool time.
I get really cemented a lot of things or a lot of relationships I had in the space
where I was just like, I don't really know this person.
And then finally, you jump on and you're like, okay, this is even better.
So for sure, make business relationships, make these things happen in real life,
and they will stay with you for a good long time.
And another real quick tip, don't get drunk at these events, guys.
You will look like an idiot in front of these people that you're trying to do business with.
Drinking at an event is totally normal.
Getting wasted at an event, there's a time and a place for that.
And just make sure it's not in the right or in the wrong location and the wrong place.
If you're doing business, talk business, then go out at night and tie one on.
But don't get too crazy, guys.
I was raising my hand just to echo what Jason is saying.
I am exhausted from actually taking care of drunk people at these places.
I really don't want to have to take care of anybody else.
But to get even more personal, Gav, I was talking about you last night,
thanks to a real person, an IRL event that I went to.
So the blonde broker gave me a call last night, and we're chatting it up,
trying to see if she can show up.
But all of that is really because I got to go somewhere and meet people in person.
Like, it makes a huge difference.
So I got to hear all about Gav's past history.
I know all the details about girlfriends and everything that happened in his life.
And it's all because I went to an in-person event.
So now I have tons of dirt on Gav that I can use for life.
Well, I haven't met action in person quite yet, unless we have.
Yeah, but we've done the old Zoom calls and things along those lines.
It really does take it to the next level in person.
I think we don't realize this subconsciously, but we're very careful.
At least I am with what we say online and with what we say on calls and all types of things.
There's just this like, even if you don't know, well, this is literally being recorded.
But a lot of times, even if it's not being recorded, I think we just subconsciously feel
like, maybe I'm somewhat being recorded or this could go somewhere.
This could get screenshotted.
And it just kind of removes all that when you're in person.
And you can just like be comfortable.
Like people really tell me, I mean, listen, people like to talk to me.
I've found they like to say things.
It really escalates in person.
And I think a lot of people can kind of relate to that with seeing it.
So it is definitely an investment in your future.
But I like what Lucas said, you know, have a plan going into it.
If you show up to the conference and you don't really have any agenda, that's OK.
But you know, it's not going to, I think, get you the most out of it.
I like to look a little bit ahead.
I like to look at who's going to be speaking.
Now, of those speakers, who would be good for me to talk to?
OK, now, what is my opener going to be?
Well, let me look up what they've been working on recently, right?
Let me see some of the vision here so I can understand them.
If we have a conversation, I can hold that conversation with them.
So that's kind of like some of the initial pieces that I like to go about.
And for me personally, obviously, I work in marketing.
I'm always looking at the sponsors, right?
Like who's coming and sponsoring this event?
All these sponsors have booths up and things like that.
And I think walking around there with an agenda can go a long way too, in my opinion.
If you're someone that's working in that area,
maybe you're looking for collaboration.
Maybe you're looking for investment, right?
There's a lot of ways that you can go about this and maximize it.
Doesn't really matter in my eyes.
Even if you're just working at nine to five,
the more people that you know in the bigger network is never hurts.
There's no downside to it.
I agree with everything you guys have been saying so far, especially Wolf, I love.
And it's key to getting the most value out of the time you're going to get there.
So saying that what you were saying, what questions do you have?
What people are doing the same things as me?
Who can I collaborate with?
Who can I learn more from?
Planning ahead, making sure that you know what you want to get out of this conference
is it's going to be a night and day difference.
Yes, you can go there and wing it, but it's not going to be the same value.
And I found it, Wolf, in real life in Web 3,
like Web 3 doesn't mean everything is going to be online.
So I think that's where some people sort of miss that.
They're like, well, why are you going to an in real life event or conference?
And for me, I went to LA a couple of years ago to DeCon,
actually met Dave there in real life, the orange wolf.
So yeah, those connections, I still have those connections today,
still pulling on those connections today.
And one of the other things that I just wanted to mention,
if you are a creator and you've got a great idea,
but you don't understand or know the business side of it.
So for me, I'm a CPA by trade.
That's the number one thing when I talk to artists, creators, even coders,
they don't know how to get set up with a business number and LLC.
Ask those questions while you're there as well.
There are going to be so, so many people here that can help you with that.
And like Wolf said, getting to meet someone in real life
and knowing their true personality,
a lot of times it's going to make people want to help you even more.
So go in with a plan and don't be shy to ask questions.
Yep, I would double down on that.
All right, let's go over to Dave.
If you're ready to speak, I would definitely love to pop you in here.
If you need a few more minutes, no worries.
All right, Jason, let me bring it back to you.
You highlighted some of the speakers.
Can you go through some of the ways where you're kind of breaking down
like the icebreakers and the awkwardness?
And there's going to be people that are like,
hey, I'm an introvert, you know, doing all that prep and stuff
just isn't going to work for me.
I'm not going to talk to people.
How are you kind of removing those barriers?
Yeah, so a lot of the ways to do that is to, like, for me personally,
I'm going to be going up to people that I know that might be a little bit more introverted
and then start making those connections personally.
That's my approach, you know, be that person that bridges that gap, right?
Now, we do have one of our partners, he has this app where it's called Icebreaker.
And so Icebreaker is a cool little networking app because it's really,
it's perfect for a conference because what you do is you kind of set in keywords.
For example, let's just say blockchain.
So you say, one of my topics is blockchain.
I want to talk to people on blockchain.
So in Icebreaker, you put that keyword in there, you turn on your Bluetooth,
and when you get close to someone that's also a blockchain expert,
a blockchain technologist, whatever the case is,
then it will ping you and let you know who the person is and send you their profile.
And then you can go up there and talk to them.
And that kind of gives you that stepping stone of,
okay, now I have a little bit about who they are,
their background, and what their business is.
And now I can actually go and approach them and meet them.
So it's a really fun way to really tear down barriers and really talk to people.
And what I would encourage too is if you're at a conference and you see someone that actually,
if it's more of an intimate thing where you actually can do or feel confident going up
to someone that you see is just kind of like a wall fly, you can go up to them and say,
hey, just introduce yourself.
I can't tell you, that makes all the difference in the world to people.
It really helps people break out of their shell.
Sometimes people just need a single day to really network to break out of their shell.
If you're more introverted.
But yeah, that's a great question.
So between icebreaker and just being the person that really kind of is the liaison
and really networking, it should be very interesting.
I'm going to take one of your cards actually, Wolf.
And what I'm going to do is I'm pretty much going to be walking around with a notepad and
taking notes, going to every single vendor,
going to every single person and chatting with everyone,
making sure that I follow up on whatever engagements I interact with,
because I think it's really important that we don't forget.
I can't tell you how many times I've saved someone's phone number
And then I just completely, I'm like, who was that person?
So taking notes and actually making a point.
And apparently taking selfies is all the rage too.
So that's definitely helpful.
But yeah, don't be an introvert.
You really have to walk up to people.
You have to say hello and really introduce yourself and get yourself out there.
Since you're going to go to this conference, you can always use,
You can use, you can say, hey, we met on Twitter spaces or I keep saying Twitter.
I got to stop that habit.
Yeah, so I'll actually walk through a little bit more of my process
because I've, you know, I've gone to a lot of conferences at this point.
This is the way that I find it works.
After you talk to someone, like right after you talk to them,
you need to do something to remember that conversation.
So yes, always try and get their information is great.
Now, if you have an iPhone, cool little thing you could do now,
If you just, I think it's iPhone 12, 13 or something like that or later,
as long as they have one as well,
if you touch the ends of the iPhones together and hold it there for about 15 seconds,
you'll feel the phone vibrate and it'll say accept contact or send contact.
And you can actually just trade contacts just by holding your phones
up against each other for about 15 seconds.
This will transfer over all the details that they have in their contact info,
profile picture if they have that, all that stuff.
So that's one of my favorite ways.
But if you do do it, remember to immediately text or call them too,
because otherwise it's just going to save into your contacts.
There's not going to be like a last text message.
And if you forget their name, which I think many of us are prone to,
listen, I'm really good at asking someone their name and forgetting it five to 10 seconds later.
You want to actually just get that message out to them.
So pro tip, you can trade easily like that.
Now, if they don't have the newer iPhone or if they just have an Android,
you can just basically pull out your phone.
Hey, just put in your name and number.
Taking a selfie works really well.
People are usually fine with it for the most part unless they're a non.
You just turn around and be like, hey, I just like to take a selfie just so I can remember,
you know, remember the moment.
Remember who this is I'm putting in my phone,
especially if they have like a pretty common name or something like that.
It can go the extra mile.
And to be honest, people have selfies for their faces in my phone.
Like I even like remember that moment better of like that first interaction.
So it does go a long way.
The number one thing that I do, though, is like if I'm going to a conference and I go
into the event after I talked about usually five, six people or even in between,
you'll see me pull up my phone.
I just pull up the notes app and then I simply just write down in the notes app
the person's name, what they do and what I am following up with them about.
That's kind of the main gist of it.
And so then I'll usually walk away at the end of these things with maybe 10 to 15 people written
down and that's when I can go ahead and I can do all my follow up by actually saying,
You know, I know who I have to follow up with.
I've got their emails or their numbers, whatever it is, I'm going to send these
business cards are cool, too.
I'm happy to take business cards.
You know, I take the business card, I take a picture of it usually,
and I just put that picture into the Apple note.
So I don't have to carry around the business card everywhere.
I basically can just consolidate everything right into the one Apple note.
And then you're kind of good to go at that point.
If you haven't tried this, if you go on Apple notes, there's a scan or take picture button.
So you can just do it right from inside of the Apple note as well.
You don't have to like take the picture and then move it in afterwards.
I find that by doing this, this is the only way that I actually remember to follow up what I'm
following about stuff like that.
Otherwise, you just kind of lose the conversation.
And then the last thing for me is it really is a bit of a numbers game.
I know sometimes you get into like a conversation with one person at these events,
and you're like, wow, I can talk to person for hours.
But you do want to hit, in my opinion, as many people as possible,
use that, you know, whatever it is, the five minutes, build that initial relationship.
And then hey, maybe like, hey, let's let's follow up with each other for a dinner while
we're here at this conference.
So let's follow up later.
If you're in like a busy networking area, try to have several touch points, right?
Don't try to talk to one to two people, in my opinion, talk to 10 to 15.
But there are people that I know that will go to conferences, and there's 200 vendors,
and they'll talk to all 200.
You have to be good at continuing to move the conversation.
What's helpful as well as if you're going with another person,
and maybe it's a business partner, or someone you work with, or whatever it is like that,
having some type of tag team can really help as well.
You can even have signals for this, like, if you have to kind of get out of the conversation,
I mean, we're getting a little bit into the depth here.
But sometimes, like, I'll have my girlfriend with me at the event,
she does a lot of like the photography and stuff like that.
And if she like I'll tell her like, hey, if someone's like talking to me for like more than
five minutes, and you still see them like just come over and like grab me and be like,
hey, I just need you to talk to you about something, you know, kind of like come into
If I'm going around pitching booths, I often do it with another person so we can have a little
Hey, you know, we got to run something like that.
It's easier than like, I got to run or I got to go do this.
And they see you just walk over to another person.
It's like a lot easier when you're with another person, or you have something set up.
So just some helpful tips and tricks from my end that have gone a long way.
And I know it sounds really bad, but you're right.
There's nothing worse than seeing somebody you want to talk to across the room.
And you're sort of caught up in a conversation that might not be in the zone that you're
So thank you so much, Will, for sharing those tips.
I can't wait to touch tips with with with Gav.
Yeah, we can give you days.
We're trying to be profess your action, you know,
I can't wait until action takes a picture right next to Lucas.
That's gonna be the best one ever.
I can't wait to see that one.
Yeah, that should be definitely fun.
Sorry for the for the delay, guys.
In regards to like conference tips, right?
So I like I used to work a like the the trade show circuit for like a previous job.
And it was constant traveling, constant trade shows.
And you ultimately have to look like you have to talk to everybody.
But even talking to everybody, then it's like, well, how do I stand out if even if
I am talking to everybody?
And I can tell you this, and this is just based off my experience here on space on
If I were to show up, let's say to the World War Three conference, and I was to show up
and be like, Hey, how are you?
Yeah, no, everything's good.
And now all of a sudden, now my whole demeanor has changed, right?
People like the way in which they see me is like the energy, right?
Like that's what I'm constantly getting.
So be like whoever you are out here on like on these spaces, right?
If you're going to meet up with people that you've either spoken to or whatever.
And don't switch it up too much.
I feel like people get whether it's a little bit nervous, like you have to be that same
person, because if you're not, then that just makes kind of the interaction like pretty weird.
So like, make sure that you're being yourself.
I know that that might seem cliche and really simple.
But I did have this list.
If you guys remember, we did this networking thing a little bit ago also.
And somebody brought up, they shared a list with us of things.
And I was just like, in terms of what to do or how to be, you had your conventional,
you had your non-conventional ones, right?
Obviously, have your business cards on hand, have, you know, researcher attendees,
kind of what Gav was saying, use the apps, workshops.
I want to know about this whole telegram folder thing that everyone I keep hearing everyone
talk about in these friggin chats.
Like I genuinely want to know what the hell that is, because I need to be organized.
But the non-conventional stuff I think is really cool too, right?
Like do something out of the box.
Do something unexpected, not like we're going streaking through the quad to the gymnasium,
like Frank, the tank style.
But ultimately, like organize like some sort of like a niche meetup,
like between some of the people or speakers that you maybe want to see or speak to.
And by you doing that, like that shows an initiative.
And it's like, okay, like, I know if somebody did that and said to me,
Dave, like, can you make this specific date?
And like, you know, can you make this time specifically during the conference?
I really want to talk about this and this with this one, this one, this one.
I'd be like, Oh, wow, like this person actually took the time to research and really do it.
Obviously, the conference buddy, like it is a big one as well.
You want to talk about telegram?
Please tell me about telegram.
Yeah, you got to pay for it.
You pay, you pay the monies and then you get like a bunch of folders.
But I can walk you through it since Charlie isn't helping you.
But to echo some what you were saying, as far as like getting those connections
and doing something out of the box, that's me at conferences.
And the nice thing is when it comes naturally, when you're not forcing it,
when it's just like, it's just you, right?
I just happen to hug people.
It gets a little awkward sometimes, but I'm okay with it.
I will hug most people by the end of the conference just because I'm a hugger.
I blame it on my my the Brazilian in me.
But besides that, like, I try to help people during these conferences, right?
And like the easiest way to talk to somebody and get somebody interested in you
is asking them what they're interested in.
So like, this is like, this is actually a really good time.
So last time I did this for somebody was with Icy.
He does he does a web three gaming and like Icy didn't let me in a party.
And I was like, dude, like, I'm getting in.
Like, you just got to let me in.
Anyway, long story short, like he felt like a douchebag afterwards
when I was in the party already.
And like I got in even though he thought I wasn't supposed to be in there.
And I'm like, dude, like, why are you here?
And he goes, are the all coin daily guys here?
And I was like, yeah, you want to meet Aaron in Austin?
So like my go to is usually like trying to focus on what people are excited about.
Who do you want to get to know in this place?
And it does not matter if you know the person or not,
you can still make an introduction.
Like if let's say Dave wants to meet Jason and you know,
they've never met Jason before.
It's very easy for a third party to go.
Hey, Jason, you're putting the event on, right?
He's really excited to be here.
And he really wanted to say hello and walk away.
They're going to remember, you know, Jason,
they're going to remember the person that they were there to seek out,
but they're going to remember even more the person who helped them make that connection.
Even if you don't have a connection with that person in the first place,
being the guy who helps somebody else goes a long, long way.
And again, you don't even have to know that third party.
As long as you are willing to, you know, go out on a limb
and do something for somebody else, man, like the connections are endless.
Yeah, you don't want to be stuck with the what if, right?
It's like, man, what if I would have talked to that girl
or if I were to ask that girl out like that's the same.
It's the same thing in my eyes, right?
Why miss an opportunity like it could be a massive business opportunity.
Like you've heard Gav literally talk about like the opportunities
that were talking to one person for three minutes.
And then that leads to a dinner which leads to 30, like 30 grand in business.
Like that's actual real life use case.
I wonder if people actually like were to see these real life use cases
like pinned up around like the conference and be like,
oh, like testimonials in a way, like what they would actually say
if that would maybe give them confidence.
But you never ever know like what is around the corner, right?
The person that you could be talking to or that maybe you fated
that you were maybe, you know, too tired or like Lucas said,
like maybe you were a little too drunk,
like definitely don't get drunk, too, too drunk.
Maybe that could have turned into like a huge opportunity for you, right?
It could have been like absolutely like life changing,
but I guess you'll never know.
I don't know about you guys.
I never ever want to feel that feeling like ever, ever, ever in my life.
Dave, you were exactly who you were when I met you,
just to let everybody know.
And you still talk to him today.
I had some redeeming qualities.
So I'm doing something right.
I've been a sidekick ever since.
So we got a few others on stage two.
Kyle, Kyle, I'd love to hear some insights from you
on how to best take advantage of a conference.
I think that some of the points that have been made here
And it's I think so true that just people are there to talk.
And I think that to some of the points that you had,
and we talked about being stuck in awkward conversations.
I mean, you're there to meet with as many people as possible.
So I definitely don't think that there's a lot of stigma to say.
I'm like, hey, look, I got to get to the next person
So some of those things are good calls.
I think that clarifying your offer is pretty important as well.
So so many people go to events.
And they're kind of just maybe there for general networking,
or they don't put a lot of thought into exactly what
they're looking to get out of it from the people
that they're meeting with.
And so the more that you're intentional with what you're
trying to accomplish, if you're working for a company,
then outlining exactly what KPIs, what type of person
you're looking for, or what type of relationship
And clearly communicating that early in those relationships
And I think that being deliberate and intentional
with the type of people that you're networking with
to find the right group of individuals.
When you go to a conference, there's going to be a ton of people.
There's 1,000 different interests and perspectives
And so your goal is to literally speed date, right?
You're trying to go and bounce from person to person
to person until you find the right relationships
Or if you want to do that general networking thing,
what I've had worked really well is I'll often set
like a QR code for my contacts, whether it's
LinkedIn or Instagram, or if you're trying to grow
your following count on a platform,
or if you're trying to stay in touch with people, setting
that to your background of your phone.
That way you can very quickly share information,
have them scan it, move on to the next person,
and just go person to person.
Or in my case, when I do connect with people,
you're going to get a lot of business cards
or get a lot of connections.
If somebody sends me or gives me a business card,
I'll quick snap a photo of the specific business card
of somebody that I thought was pretty important.
Or if I add them on LinkedIn or whatever,
take a screenshot on your phone of that person
so that I go into my phone the next day
or at the end of the conference, and boom,
I've got the five people that I spoke with
over that two or three day event that I remind myself,
oh yeah, those were the ones that were super impactful to me
that I want to follow up to, that I want to reach out to.
That way you kind of have a little bit of a short list.
And the other side of it is the part
The follow ups, you got to do it fast.
If you wait a week or a week and a half
after the event to start reaching out to people
that you connected with earlier because you put it off
or because you were busy or whatever,
I found the response rate and the likelihood
of connecting with that person dropped significantly.
So I try to grind it out and send follow ups right away
to start to keep that relationship and keep it warm
instead of waiting longer and longer and longer
because it decreases pretty drastically from there.
So I think that being really clear with your offer
and your intentions of what you're trying to get out of it
and then locking in those relationships quickly
and moving on to the next person is pretty important
because you can always go back.
If you have somebody that's really cool that you spoke with
or you feel like there's a lot of synergies,
you can always go back to them, say what's good
and keep the conversation going later
as you connect with other people.
So those are some of my high level thoughts.
I was just listening in the background
and heard the discussion about conferences
and figured I could chime in.
If you'd like, I've been...
Oh, yeah, he cut out for me too.
That was an enticing start, though.
While we wait for Matthew,
I just want to mention one of the setups in the exhibit area.
We're setting up a speed dating lounge.
One of those things that Kyle had mentioned
And that following up is really, really important.
It's something that I struggled with early on
because like he said, nobody wants to do it,
So when I was going back and following up,
I woke up the next morning from a networking event
in Las Vegas with Cryptos R Us and Karate Combat.
I immediately started texting every single person I spoke to.
The few people that I missed,
those are the people I ended up realizing
I missed them about a week after the fact,
trying to reach out to them.
And I got no response to them,
even though we had amazing conversations on site.
So it's so important to follow up right away
Keep the conversation going.
And like he said, be rememberable.
If you're following up right away,
you're already hitting it and nailing it on the head.
Yeah, the one other thing I wanted to add,
and I don't want to hog all the airspace.
I'm sure other people have some ideas.
Something that I do and often this works more
in intimate settings than like in a conference
it can be a little bit weird if you do this strategy,
but like I was at a dinner, for example, on Friday
and there was maybe 35, 40 people there.
So it was a pretty big dinner,
but relatively a more intimate setting
where you get to talk with people
and have a little bit more of a genuine connection
and you're participating in some group conversations.
I met with probably, I would say five people
that I really felt like were strong strategic connections
which I felt was a pretty productive meeting
and a productive session.
And what I actually ended up doing was,
if you share phone numbers,
the problem for me is that my phone book
has a thousand names in it.
And like, if you don't know the person personally,
it's just another name in the book, right?
You look at like, oh, here's James Smith,
like obviously those are made up names,
but like you're just gonna look in your phone book
and be like, you have no idea who this person is,
even potentially a day later,
let alone three or six or 12 months later,
you're gonna have no clue who this person is
and they're gonna look the same exact thing to you.
And so what I actually do,
especially in some of those more intimate settings,
or if you build a strong rapport with somebody,
I actually take a selfie.
And so I take a quick selfie with us together
and send that in the text chat alongside my name
and maybe a sentence on how we met,
which again, another thing people don't do.
Don't just get someone's number
and send your first and last name or your first name.
They're never gonna remember what you talk about.
I always send, hey, it's Kyle Sondland,
great to meet on Wolf's Twitter spaces,
looking forward to reconnecting on finance
or on tech or on venture capital,
or whatever you're trying to do.
And even though face-to-face, it's silly to say that,
it's super useful looking back a few days later
to remind yourself who this person was,
especially if you're gonna send
10 different connection requests
to different people throughout the evening,
it's easy to blend those conversations together.
So I love sending just a one sentence thing
of where our action item was.
And then the bonus point is the selfie
if you hit off with somebody,
because it's amazing what, I'm a faces guy,
but I think most people are.
It's amazing what you're seeing a photo
of the person's face and then going,
oh yeah, that's the person.
And if you get the selfie with them,
then it's kind of like that social proof of like,
yeah, see, we were together,
we were having fun as a subconscious kind of thing.
So I think that those two points
on like actually reaching out
and staying connected with somebody
are super powerful and not enough people do it.
we're there for business purposes,
but I always find if you remember and recall things
that they have told you about their personal life,
like if they have a pet, if they have a child,
that it goes a long, long way.
And again, it's the same thing on spaces.
If you remember things about people,
they feel valuable and therefore
they're more willing to give you what you may need.
Jason, I did have a question.
If you can clarify the speed dating,
that's not like actual dating,
that's for business purposes, right?
Well, I was thinking once I get you and Dave
well, there's a private lounge
I can send you guys upstairs to.
Sorry, action, I'm already taken.
been married for 14 years,
gonna be 15 years this year.
But man, like the dating aspect of it,
if it's just a conversation,
Even if it's to help people practice.
I need my shoe sign back here.
No, actually, what I would like to do
is have conversations with each of you individually
and see how best we can organize it.
I have the vision in my head
and I've seen it done before.
But I would really like to make sure
that we have at least you guys seated at each table
So then that way we do like a timer,
maybe like a two minute session
Even that might be too much time.
So I definitely want some feedback on that.
But that's something I'm working on currently.
By the way, offering breaks.
I know Wolf mentioned introverts earlier.
Offering breaks to the crowd,
even if they're inside of the main stage area,
remind people that they can take short breaks,
go outside, get some fresh air.
There's actually a pool area
behind the entire foyer area
So people can actually enjoy themselves,
and there's a bar and grill out there
and so on and so forth then.
And the social engagements,
if people want to wait until later on in the evening
for the social engagements,
that opportunity will be there
with the networking events.
So yeah, so I just wanted to throw
those two cents in there too.
Matt, I know you came back on stage.
I love that all action got out
of what we were talking about
was the speed dating, okay?
Wait a minute, go back to the speed dating.
Well, I just want to confirm,
I want to know what he was talking about
because I got a little lost there for a second.
I'm like, were we talking business
or are we talking pleasure?
With David's both, I know.
But speed dating is a great idea.
Think about that for a second, right?
Like if you're sitting down,
if you have the opportunity to sit down
for whatever it is, I don't know what is it,
60 seconds or two minutes, right?
Across from an influencer or a person,
Across from a person that you are either
constantly hearing in these spaces,
somebody that you consider either a thought leader
or that has a knowledge base that you're obviously there
that you feel you can gain something from.
You have a dedicated audience right there.
If you know who is coming, right?
This goes back to the prep work,
but if you know who is actually coming
and who's going to take part in this,
you're now going to get them one-on-one.
This is why this unprecedented access stuff
is crazy to me because you're now going to get
that person one-on-one, right, to pitch your idea.
Come with a 30-second pitch,
and all you have to do is just spark one little...
All right, let's exchange numbers or contact info,
and now you now have a follow-up call
to make to Kyle's point and make it quickly.
It doesn't have to be rocket science.
It really can be simple, easy, and fun
But then if you're action, it's a totally different story.
You're going to be all awkward in this stuff, aren't you, action?
I'm always awkward, but to Miss Gecko's point,
and adding that personal touch to it,
if I'm sitting across from Jason,
I'm totally going to go into the...
Dude, you really care about education.
It's kind of crazy how successful you were in the game,
and now you're teaching people how to build games.
That really speaks to me that you care enough
can I maybe find out what's happening next year?
Maybe you can get a booth set up on maybe a pro sponsorship.
What does that look like?
So that personal touch at the beginning,
you're going to get people googly-eyed over,
like, oh, they love me, they care about me,
and then you go in for the kill.
I would never do that to you, Jason.
Now, in my case, action, it would be sincere.
I can't speak for what you're going to be doing
out on these streets, but that's what I do.
I try to add a personal touch.
Yeah, and to me, it's all fun and games, honestly,
It's the opposite of what Lucas does.
and he is there for a reason and a purpose.
I love going to these places
and maybe planning just at max,
half of what I'm going to do there.
The other half, I love to be surprised.
I really do love that surprise aspect of it
because that's where, to me, I can have fun.
My goal is just A, be myself,
and B, find out what comes at me.
That makes it really exciting
because that time that is literally unplanned
is a time that I give to others.
It's making those connections
and introducing people to one another
and saying, hey, I know somebody
that could really, really use what you're building.
Let me introduce you to them.
To me, that's so exciting,
and I love that aspect of it.
Are there terrible jokes that come along with it?
Yes, but they're totally worth it.
I was going to say, I love that action,
and that works for you where you are right now.
So this conference, as you can see,
can be for someone completely new coming in
or for someone experienced like action,
who's coming in and knows what he's doing.
So again, I would be the same way as you, Action.
I would have a mostly freed up schedule to see.
I'd have an ultimate goal,
but mostly freed up schedule
to see where things lead me to the speed dating tables.
So I have a question for Lucas.
Action's got a good point.
Like, I actually, if I do back-to-back meetings,
which in this conference I'm definitely not doing,
because it's not one of these conferences
where I have 20 people I want to do business with.
It's literally kind of like a educational space,
and I'm leaving like 75% open and a 25% like,
let's meet up kind of thing.
So each scenario, every event you go to
should be looked at as different, right?
Every event, like a big event,
there's like five people or 10 people
you definitely want to bump into at an event.
Have their pictures, number one,
find a picture of them if they're not a non, of course,
this is going to sound a little weird, but it's not weird.
Like, have a picture on your phone and be like,
this is what they actually look like,
so you can find them pretty easily,
because not everybody's going to wear a t-shirt
that says, I am this person on Twitter, right?
it's a great idea to wear a shirt that says,
I am this person on Twitter.
And then there's, like, just make sure you,
Like, make sure you get your meetings done,
that you really want to meet,
like have your cards in place
that you look at them on your phone and say,
okay, who is the next people I really,
really want to meet with?
Like, there doesn't need to be an agenda with that meeting.
Just make sure you meet that person
and then take it from there,
because once you meet in real life,
that's when you can actually take things
to the next level, I think,
even if you have like a free schedule,
like when I was at a conference with Gav,
like, I didn't really have like this crazy back-to-back agenda.
I used 30% of my time for that,
I did, I just wanted to have fun, right?
I met up with a bunch of other people.
You pretended to work for other companies.
We went to a really good event,
and it worked out really great,
pretended to work for other big companies,
Did you guys like crash a party or something?
Oh yeah, oh yeah, we did.
Oh, I need to hear about this sometime.
It was a debt lead conference,
I was in the lead gen business for like a long time,
so I knew all the like vernacular and terms they used,
so they thought we were legit too,
oh, we want to do business with you.
Anyway, the good news is,
you leave enough time to hang out with people afterwards,
but I mean that networking,
I think is more powerful to network together
and not act the fool because you're wasted
I think that actually gives you
more long-term relationships
than actually just meeting back to back as well.
Wait, I have a question now.
Like, are these events bougie like that,
where you're literally talking about,
we pretend to be other people,
what, till I get into a party?
Yeah, well, at the Vegas one.
All right, so we were at the win,
and we weren't the only conference
We were at the World Web 3,
or not sorry, the Vegas Web 3 Expo,
and there was another several conferences
that were happening in meeting rooms,
and so our conference was having a happy hour,
and we went down to the happy hour,
Not a lot of people there,
a few snacks, a couple cookies, no drinks.
So we were like, all right,
let's see what else is going on around here.
So we started walking down the hall,
there's another event going on
for a different conference.
It's popping, a lot going on,
big plates of sushi going on in there,
I was like, what are we going to say?
with a couple other people.
and we're like, all right,
And Lucas is like, we work here.
We roll in, and it worked like a charm.
I mean, everybody was just throwing swag at us.
We got sushi, we got drinks,
and that worked a little.
Somebody tried to pay one of us
for a speaking engagement.
You just show up and good things happen.
Yeah, that's a great example
of showing up where you don't belong
because pretty soon you'll get an opportunity
or something will happen in a positive way.
And Lucas, I couldn't hear you,
so I had to drop down and come back.
speaking about the Twitter names.
So when I went to the conference in LA,
we did all name tags on with our Twitter name
and our regular name as well.
And again, Dave was there.
You didn't have to sort of figure out
because a lot of people at that time
back in 2021 were not doxxed.
We didn't know what each other looked like.
I didn't know you were from Canada, Miss Gecko.
I had no idea until I heard your accent.
Yeah, I'm on the East Coast,
the farthest east you can get on the rock.
I didn't know you guys were.
I didn't know you came to LA.
You said 2021 you came because I live in LA.
I came for a decon in November 21.
I'll be there again someday.
I'm not one for warm weather.
I'm looking out at about four feet of snow
We're getting rain here, you know,
on a weekly basis in SoCal.
And we're like, what is happening?
Is the world coming to an end?
Like, yeah, thinking about snow.
I told Dave the other day.
I don't remember the last time I felt warm.
I think it was like in like 2008 or something.
I went down to Cuba or Dominican.
You need this when I went to LA, Lucas,
it was just it was regular.
Lucas, how are these conferences different
from like the events that you go to
or that you organize out here?
Like, I know that like you're big out here
like in the like the web three event scene.
Yeah, so my events are in 10 different cities
every single month, not just in Los Angeles,
but like New York and like D.C.
and, you know, San Francisco and Seattle
and Austin, Texas and Chicago and stuff like that.
But and that's every month.
But yeah, so my events are like,
what I've noticed is that a lot of people
like go into conferences like this.
But what my my events are basically
they take out the the strict.
Oh, we've got to hear someone speak.
And I just do like startup and tech,
like networking events so that people
literally just come and network the entire time.
So but in terms of like big conferences,
you know, I've thrown disrupt LA.
I actually did disrupt LA in 2014 and 2015.
And they're basically the same, right?
Big conferences are big conferences.
It's just how many days are they?
Who do you have speaking?
And what's the topic, right?
It's putting an event together is easy,
It's easy because it's, you know,
to build a process and a system around it is pretty easy.
It's like, hey, I need to get speakers.
I need a couple of things.
And then you just check all those boxes, right?
But otherwise, it's like, it's the same stuff, right?
Every event is the same makeup where it's,
you either hear a professional speak
and then everybody comes to meet and network.
And like, that's the magic is the networking part of it.
But, you know, sometimes you need a conference like this
for to satiate basically kind of like all parties.
So my events also has like a single conference
every single year where everybody like comes to it
after they go to all my events for like a year.
And one of my favorite things about being at conferences
and it happens in spaces too,
is that these people are speaking your own language.
So it's not like you don't have to translate.
You don't have to dumb it down.
You can have a regular conversation
about what we chat about all the time.
And I find that that is huge.
And for me, I also, I article that one
of the big four accounting firms.
So we used to also meet, say people within our firm
on a regular basis, you know, across the country.
So again, those times you would be
with so many like-minded people
and you can find those niche, niche, niche holes
that you're interested in.
And that's why I love the conferences
and chatting and getting to know people.
You gotta move into a few minutes to wrap up.
Gotta get this one done about a minute
or two before 2 p.m. Eastern.
I've really been enjoying it though.
I feel like there's been a lot of great info.
One more time, if you haven't already,
you can DM me the word conference
and I will send you the discount code
which you can go right to the worldconference.io.
You can check out all the speakers, sponsors,
everything that's happening there.
A lot of good stuff coming.
With that being said, Jason,
let me turn it over to you.
Anything else that you'd like to kind of put
in front of people, places where they can do
more research into this and get a good look at it.
Yeah, there's a couple of things I did want to mention.
The hotel, the Rosen Plaza where we're hosting this,
they are completely sold out
for the day that we're hosting the conference.
However, what I did was I reached out to my team there
and they hooked us up at the Rosen Inn at Point Orlando.
So it's a sister building
and it's literally within this walking distance.
It's in the same parking lot essentially.
I guess that's the best way to describe it.
If you're interested in traveling to Orlando
and getting deep discounted rates,
head over to my profile, the World Web 3 Conference.
It's at TWC Web 3 or just click right here on my icon here.
And then the very first pinned post,
there's a link there for the special offer
at the Rosen Inn at Point Orlando.
And as far as I can tell, the discount is almost,
it looks like it's 50% off a hotel room per night.
I haven't actually gone in there
and tried to book a room at the regular rate
but the rate that they're offering is unbeatable.
So yeah, definitely if you're trying to come through
and you definitely want to join all of us there,
use that link and take advantage of that offer.
If you want to save on the tickets,
make sure you reach out to Wolf.
Our schedule will be up this week.
Hopefully, let me see my team.
My team is on holiday on Thursday and Friday.
They might get it up tomorrow.
Worst case, it'll be the 19th
and the full schedule will be up and available.
There could be some fluctuations
with some of the projects we bring onto the main stage.
And yeah, I think that's it.
A little bit of alpha before we check out.
I don't know if you guys are familiar
with a little band called Live or The Gracious Few
but we've got Chad Gracie.
He's the drummer from Live
and he's going to be at our event.
So we've got a lot of big wigs coming from different areas.
It's really going to be something special.
I really hope to see more of you out there.
If you want to talk to me personally
and maybe even showcase an NFT project
or a Web3 project, blockchain, crypto,
anything like that, please reach out to me.
I'll message you right back
when we can schedule a meet and greet live.
But yeah, that's my two cents.
I really thank all of you for the great conversation
and I really hope I'm going to see a lot more of these faces
there at the conference March 8th and 9th in Orlando.
Perfect. Thanks so much, Jason.
Thank you, Dave, Lucas, Miss Gecko, Action Kyle,
everybody that's been on with us.
We will have another World Web 3 chat next week.
It's going to be on Thursday at 1 p.m. Eastern.
Jason, that works for you.
Thursday the 22nd, 1 p.m. Eastern.
Thursday the 22nd, I'm in there.
Enjoy the rest of your Tuesday.