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IP Rights 🔥NFTs 🔥Art🔥
Recorded: June 10, 2025 Duration: 1:57:51Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the latest developments in the blockchain space, including strategic partnerships, project launches, and the importance of IP rights in the evolving landscape. Key highlights included the announcement of new services, potential token launches, and the need for innovative solutions to protect intellectual property amidst rapid technological advancements.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Can you hear me okay?
Hey, Rosemary. Yeah, I can hear you.
How are you?
Doing great. How about you?
I'm doing good.
Thank you for being a special guest tonight.
You and Voice and Sid.
It's awesome to have you guys in the house for this
yeah see Sid down there and there's voice
I think voice is having a little trouble coming up so we'll give it a minute
while we're waiting.
Oh, there's Sid. Welcome, Sid.
Hey, hey, hey, how's it going?
We're having trouble coming up, so we'll give it a minute.
While we're waiting.
Hey, hey, what's up, Sid?
What's up, what's up, Big Arnold?
What's going on, bro?
What's up, Rosemary?
Hey, hey, hey, how's it going?
Oh, wow, it's weird. I hear like a feedback. Do you hear a feedback?
I do, too.
That was weird. How did that come up?
I don't know. I heard myself like three times. That was funny.
I think it seems like it's resolved now.
Yeah.
Yeah, it looks like it's funny because I'm looking at Sid's and it says listener for him.
But do you see him as speaker?
I do.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's weird.
I notice X does that a lot because a lot of times I'll be on a space
and I'll have somebody up on the stage speaking.
I'm like, yo, they do not look like they're speaking.
Yeah, it's got to be updates that they're doing.
Yep, I can jump back down and come back up if you want.
No, you're good.
We can hear you.
All right, bro.
I'm just sending out some DMs, you guys.
Make sure you guys are tweeting out the room, reposting this bad boy.
Yes, sir.
I see you've been working on a lot of exciting things with the team, brother.
And what's that?
I see you and Voice have been interacting with Dustin.
There's a lot of fun stuff happening.
Yeah, it's happening now, isn't it?
Oh, yeah.
I'm excited. I don't know if you saw the latest feature that we finally finished today, but it's pretty dope.
Yeah, I'm checking that out.
I know what I've seen so far is absolutely amazing.
Yes, sir.
What's up, voice?
Yeah, we got voice up here.
Thank you for coming up.
Can you hear me, guys? Yeah, we got voice up here. Thank you for coming up. Can you hear me, guys?
Yes, sir.
I can.
Okay, great, great.
I was having connection issues, too.
I came up a couple of times and had to bounce down
because I couldn't get the speakers working
and working on a couple of computers here in the office
and nothing was going right.
But it's good to hear that you guys can hear me.
Sid,
so give me an update.
I hadn't had a chance to find out what was delivered today.
What's new.
Yo, I can't hear anything.
Am I tripping?
You didn't hear a voice ask you what was happening?
No, I didn't hear anything.
I'm going to go down and come back up.
Give me one sec.
Okay.
Sounds good.
So while we're doing that, I'm going to give a quick shout out.
We got a lot of people for Monday night. We've got NFA in the house.
We've got Crypto Homies.
We got Conrad.
We got Tio, Joey, Thors, Jace, Terry.
We got Staxed. We got Zelon, Zusk. We got Nifty's World,
Aon Forge, Mac Daddy. We got Digital World in the house. We got IP, Razzle, Alex, KWAD,
Ben, Nets, and Ace. So thank you guys for coming out. We have a treat tonight because one of my
favorite things to talk about is IP rights.
And we're going to top it up for a minute and then we're going to get right into tonight's topic.
And hopefully if you guys have NFTs or any kind of art or anything that you have IP to,
You can gain some knowledge.
you can gain some knowledge. That's the goal.
That's the goal.
All right.
So you're back, Sid.
That's awesome.
Yep.
It looks like I'm good.
Now I can hear you.
Okay.
That's great.
So, Sid, the question I had asked was I hadn't seen any updates on your site today.
Could you tell me what you were able to get completed and get launched?
Well, I just, we just, well, if you're, check out the group that Dustin has on Telegram.
It was just a new feature, a new service that we finalized for the Ui platform.
a new service that we finalized for the Uwe platform.
So we haven't made any public announcements yet,
but it just was something new that we were working on.
So if you get a chance, go take a look at it.
It's pretty dope.
It's one of the 18 different asset classes we've been talking about.
But I don't want to give it away yet until we're ready to get it going.
But I will't want to give it away yet until we're ready to get it going. But I will say this, anybody that has the interest into actually being a beta tester,
please jump on the OUI profile page, and there's a link there that you can get on the wait list,
and we'll be adding people in in the next couple weeks.
But things are really starting to come along with the marketplace right now.
I'm really excited. And,'s uh it's pretty awesome yeah that's great i'll
definitely go uh after the show take a peek and see what's new up there uh like you had mentioned
earlier you know we've been working hard with uh dustin and the dev team over there and we are
getting very very very close so we're excited with the progress that we've been making and the dev team over there. And we are getting very, very, very close.
So we're excited with the progress that we've been making
and the way things have been going.
And we're just looking forward to it.
Yeah, Lockbox is going to be awesome.
And yeah, the marketplace, I think,
is going to really take people by surprise.
We've got a lot of tricks up our sleeves with it,
and we're starting to integrate some of the other features that I've been kind of,
I built out, you know, with Dustin and kind of came up with our wish list about a year ago,
if not longer, of the different types of services that we want to offer.
And so we've been working quietly behind the scenes, kind of building those out and
little by little integrating them into the marketplace. So we're about 65 to 70% done with
our initial wishlist of goodies that we're going to have over there. But like I said, I don't think
we'll launch with everything, but I think we're going to launch with a pretty good roster, including Lockbox, which I think is going to just tear it up.
But, yeah, it's getting exciting right now.
Yeah, that's awesome.
So we're definitely looking forward to it.
We've, you know, from what we've seen on the site that you have out there, it's truly pretty amazing.
site that you have out there. It's truly pretty amazing. It's definitely a first class site.
It's definitely a first class site.
And I do think those people who are fortunate enough to get in as beta testers will be pretty
blown away about what they see. And the fact that you've got different asset classes in there and
stuff, you know, makes it unique. And well, one case in point, right? Your lockbox E is going to
be part of your ecosystem. And that's a utility
based thing that's not available anyplace else. So we're looking forward to the integration. I
know Arnold and I have been working hard with your team, but it's been first class all the way. And
we certainly appreciate being partners with you in this. Yes, sir, brother. I appreciate you guys
big time. And I know we got some other goodies we're working on which we won't get into now um but yeah things are things are really you know grooving right now coming together we got it
we got a a handful of people on the dev team which I'm really you know they're working great
together people are coming up with you know um great ideas to execute some of the things that
I came up with and I dreamed up and we've had a lot of founders hit us up to feature their projects on our marketplace.
And I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised what we have going on.
Then on top of that, we already have a bunch of drops that are going to come out right when we launch.
I mentioned last week Save Now Shop, which I've never mentioned before on any of the spaces.
But that's one of our brands, which we'll be incorporating into the marketplace.
We have our GearNami print-on-demand
we're going to be integrating to the marketplace.
And I had a great call with Maloman over at the Doogies today.
We are going to have 3D printing integrated into the marketplace.
It's pretty dope.
It's pretty dope.
That's all I can say.
Yeah, that's awesome. So you rattled off a lot of things there. Certainly quite a few of them.
I'd like to hear more about the 3D printing and the print on demand and stuff like that,
which gets into tonight's topic. So turn it back over to Rose and see if we can get this
party started and start talking about some IP. Let's do it.
Yeah.
so thank you guys for coming up.
You guys all have a lot of expertise in this area and it's one of my favorite subjects.
So I appreciate all of you.
And I'm,
I know it's going to be a great space tonight.
So I did want to just one of the things that I think a lot of people and,
and voice, I know you and I talked in the background that we'll have some more spaces
and kind of break it down a little bit more. But can you touch on some of the things and,
and Arnold too, I know like lockbox kind of works into some of it. When you have an idea,
I know like lockbox kind of works into some of it.
When you have an idea and you have the art or you have an NFT,
what's the first things that you should be doing?
Like what in your vision,
like what is the first things that you should be doing to set it up properly?
Well, I'm assuming that you kind of threw that to me and I'll tackle that just a little bit.
We recommend, obviously, protect your IP, right? That's kind of the very first basic thing.
Before you get out there and start telling people about it and start showing it off,
if you've got a really good idea, I'm a big proponent of protect
it. Obviously, I'm going to show Lockbox as a way of doing that by just getting it out there on the
blockchain, minting an NFT that's going to give you a timestamp and date of when you first put
your product out there. It's also going to give you something that's immutable. So you've
got something to refer back to. And it does give you a place because we allow you to put in audio
files, video files, graphic files, and text files. You could have anything from a script to a piece
of art to lyrics for the song and the music for the song and the artwork for the album
cover and mint it all into an NFT. And then you've basically kind of got it wrapped up where
you know what you have and you've protected yourself as much as you can before moving forward.
Obviously, it is not a trademark, copyright, or patent, nor does it replace those.
But to do any of those processes, you need to have first right of use and you need to be able to prove it on your application.
So having a website is one way of doing it.
The other way would be to have this NFT that you can put up there to show that this is where it was first used,
especially in conjunction with the website. You know, obviously after you protect your IP rights,
you may want to go down the next path of domain name, et cetera. But that's kind of, at least
from the nuts and bolts, the very basics of what I would do. What about you, Arnold? What are your
thoughts on that? Yeah, I was going to say too.. So right now, just like voice has said, it's really now it's gotten more important because of AI.
And this is why this is going to be big, that people protect their IP rights, because now with AI, what it can do, it can basically do anything.
With AI, what it can do, it can basically do anything.
So what they're saying, and this is all the way down from the experts.
I heard Gary Vee was talking about it specifically.
Having a service or being able to protect your IP now, then you'll have something as AI gets faster and faster and can create things that we don't even know that's human anymore,
you're going to need to have that, your IP rights protected. So even three, four, five months ago,
it wasn't as urgent as it is now because artificial intelligence has moved at a pace where
you won't be able to tell what's real and what's not.
So if you can have it, and like Voice was talking about, in a capacity where you get that NFT,
and in our case, what we're doing, you get the certificate and everything, you have that,
that is an amazing thing to be able to have now, especially if you look at now,
the next six months, it'll be out of control. So whatever ideal you have, you have to protect it.
Yeah, I think that's some great advice. Sid, do you have anything that you want to add
to what they said?
No, I totally agree. What Lockbox Z does is give you the opportunity to at least set your
provenance state and get things rolling to protect your IP and, you know, what you end up doing with
that. And hopefully if you, you know, need help to figure out the next steps, it's one of the
things that we plan on doing at Lockbox. But for me, you know, when I'm looking at IP, and obviously my whole
career has been based off licensing IP or creating my own IP, I always plan it out in advance. What
I'm going to do with it, how I'm going to utilize it, and all the IP that I've purchased in the
form of NFTs has always been my master plan to utilize that, the graphics, the art, the concepts to,
you know, turn them into businesses.
So with our print-on-demand business, any IP that I own through NFT ownership, you're
going to see them all in my print-on-demand platform in different shapes and forms.
So I would say, yeah, the first thing you got to do is just protect yourself and kind
of make a plan of what you want to do with it.
Yeah.
And I want to, Rosemary, I want to add on what Sid is talking about because he's exactly
right.
So even, you know, a lot of us in the case of ZNews, we have the NFTs that we like, right?
A lot of us got the ZNews, right?
But, you know, like i was having a
conversation with voice is that you realize that in another six months you'll be able to take two
or three of your z news and make a fully animated movie or if not short from it i need people to
understand the possibility of what's coming so even if you have like sid said even if you have
nfts that you purchase what you can do with this technology now and in the future is mind boggling.
You don't even realize the amount of, let me just say this, collectibles, movies, shorts, whatever you can dream of with these NFTs that we have, that's going to be real
use cases where you can take and you can monetize it, like for real.
Yeah, listen, we've been talking about this for two years. When we launched the NFA shops
probably two years ago, the whole foundation of that was, hey, what is everybody doing with
this IP in their wallets, right? We all bought these NFTs, and what are you doing with them?
And I suggested, hey, why don't you go create a store for free? Take your IP, create a store,
take your graphics, throw them on a shirt, a hat, on a Tumblr, whatever you want, a backpack, and start to create your own marketplace.
And, you know, out the gate, you don't have to be shooting for the stars thinking you're going to build that into a billion-dollar brand.
But you can build your store and just share it with your friends, your family, you know, the people around you who, you know, want to support you out the gate.
who want to support you out the gate.
And I used to tell people, like, look, even if you make $100 a month or $200 a month,
that's $200 more than you had before.
So, you know, taking your IP, finding ways to utilize it, like Arnold says.
I mean, there's a gazillion AI apps, and there's going to be a lot of opportunities
for people to, you know, take their IP, create books.
for people to, you know, take their IP, create books.
You know, you can go create your own children's book right now
and sell it on Amazon, right?
People create very lucrative living creating those type of assets.
So, you know, I'm a big believer in, you know, utilizing what you have.
And just because you've never played around with IP or
have any ideas of what to do with IP, it's, A, you have great resources in this space, right?
You have myself, you have Arnold, you have Voice, you have Rosemary who loves IP. You have Dylan
down there who I know is a big IP guy and MetaRides, obviously a huge IP guy. You know,
we're all an encyclopedia of information.
And one of the things that we definitely bring to the space is like,
hit us up, ask us a question.
We'll be more than happy to help out and at least give you some direction.
I think what Arnold and Voice did with Lockbox was kind of genius.
Here they came up with a way for you to take your idea IP,
right? So an idea is IP. If you have an idea for a song, that's your IP. If you have an idea for
a name, that's your IP. But to take your IP and to protect it in a way that you have now set a date,
you've set a provenance date of when you created it. Now, that's a step one in a cycle of things that you might want to do with that IP.
But we are in an IP revolution.
I do feel it coming.
I'll talk a little bit more about some of the IP that I'm really bullish on.
Look, I took Steamboat Willie.
That was IP that became public domain. And I launched the Steamboat Willie bobblehead, Digi bobblehead collection, back about a year ago.
And I was waiting for that IP for five years to become public domain.
when it comes to IP, but the fact that we're all sitting on what I believe is a, you know,
treasure trove of amazing art. And especially if you love the projects that you've collected the
art, like why not take a crack at trying to figure out how to utilize that art to start a business?
And like I said, low hanging fruit, man, open a store and we're going to, you know, NFA shops,
you know, I told us last week we we merged
with a big company we started a new company called gear nami uh we we have over 500 clients already
that we do you know large-scale print on demand from special limits olympics to uh you know
sesame street to tau group uh to our own brand called emblem athletic which you can go look up
online um we we we're we're heavily involved in helping people take their ip and and turn it into
a way to monetize their ip so um it's exciting right now yes sir and i will let me add this to again. This is what's big now, too. Like you're saying, say, like if you go to a right now, social shopping is really big.
And what I mean by that. So, as you know, collectibles are big, but you can go live on different platforms.
What not is a big one. Also, tick tock, of course, which is live social selling. And imagine
like Sid's talking about where you're on there a couple hours a week and you're selling your mugs
with your NFTs on them, or you're selling your t-shirts, right? So what Sid is talking about,
like we're in the midst of a revolution of, you know, the majority of people are on their phones
for over two and a half hours,
right? So if you can just imagine, if you can get creative, like Sid is talking about,
and open up a store, you can now go live, right, on a platform like that, and then sell it, right?
You know, go live every week after you get off work, right? And that's going to be a multi-billion dollar industry.
But we're lucky enough to have these NFTs that we can put on products, right?
And then just take it a step further.
Yeah, listen, the print-on-demand industry, I think right now, is like at a $15 to $25 billion industry right now.
they're expecting it to go close to a trillion dollars over the next 10 years
They're expecting it to go close to a trillion dollars over the next 10 years globally.
globally and being able to control your IP being able to you know one of the
things that I'm really bullish on when it comes to print on demand and and some
of the things that we're trying to do to change the game is to utilize AI so that
when somebody comes in and let's say let's say I'm sitting with a license like Hello Kitty
and I have a Hello Kitty license and I have a platform where you can come in and now create
your own one-of-one t-shirt. Now, you're the only person in the world that has that t-shirt.
Now, what does that do for you? Well, it does a lot of things. One, if your t-shirt is super dope, there's a huge secondary market that you could be selling those one-off items. And just like these NFTs, being able to go in there and have somebody create a super dope design on the fly, you know, is a future. And listen, I know when it comes to NFTs, it's very personal, right? People own NFTs.
They want to make their own, you know, something like what Mallow's doing there down there from the Doogies. And what we're doing with them on our marketplace is allowing people to go in
through our marketplace and then go make a one-on-one collectible figure with them. Now,
we all know people don't want to necessarily buy someone else's figure.
However, I do. If I see something dope, I support it and I grab it. I've done this
a gazillion times with different projects. I don't necessarily have to have my item be the item that
I buy to support, right? It's like if I really think like if I love whatever, if I love the doogies and they put out a shirt, I just want to support the doogies, right? It's like, if I really think like, if I love whatever, if I love the doogies
and they put out a shirt, I just want to support the doogies, right? Cause I love it. Um, but now
guess what? You can, you can make your own one of one, you can create your own one of one.
Um, and, and, and like I said, you know, creating a dope line and just marketing to your friends
and family, there's a huge business in that. And I like what you said, Arnold.
Like if you go on a TikTok live and you see these guys who are selling sweatshirts now
or T-shirts for the – I see it all the time because I'm obsessed with watching shopping
on these social platforms.
Because back in the day, when you guys hear me say, now that's the dealio, right, when I do my space, that started because I started my own online shopping channel called What's the Dealio?
And it was supposed to be a take on, you know, QVC, but just a much cooler vibe.
So, hey, Sid, what's the dealio?
And I kind of talk about, you know, dope deals of the day. And then at the end, it's, oh, that's the dealio. And so, you know, I see these guys and girls on there, they're selling the pens. That's a huge thing. They're selling all these, these, you know, candy, which I'm obsessed watching these people selling candy, or they're selling stones, or they're selling what I've noticed a lot of these makeshift t-shirts that are they're not
licensed football shirts or baseball shirts are just like they made some generic design
that represents the Dodgers and they've got 50 t-shirts up there and they're up there selling
them like crazy so you know and I like the idea Arnold and and you know I will support if you're
if you're launching a channel and you want to support, I will support.
I'll promote and market you through what we're building because I love to see people take their IP and, you know, utilize our platform.
Anybody who wants to build a shop with us, with GearNami, and then go live and support it, man. We will support you and help market.
And it's very easy.
You can have the people literally pick out their design.
You don't have to hold any inventory.
We print it, we ship it.
And you could literally have 3,000 items from our catalog that we can make and ship, you know, within three to five days.
I think that's dope, Arnold.
I think that's a suit just you know
you could you could invest you know you talk about investment in the business I've invested
millions of dollars in my businesses man you could take 500 bucks make yourself 30 shirts 20 shirts
put them up put on some music go do some lives uh and and all of a sudden you're like selling
some dope stuff i think that's sick dude it is i'm like i'm gonna jump off here and i'm gonna
start my i'm gonna go do that right i'm like yo that's crazy listen yeah let's let's close the
space and get it done i know what I was going to say. Whatnot.
If you guys haven't heard of Whatnot, it's an app where you can go on there.
You don't need a bunch of followers.
You can go live.
And like Sid is talking about, you just set up your camera, pointed to your T-shirt.
In my case, I have tennis shoes.
You know how many tennis shoes and mugs I can sell if I just turned on the camera or went on to, you know, whatnot?
Arnold, do you sell shoes?
Yeah, I made some tennis shoes, some Z-New tennis shoes.
Yes, the best ones.
The best ones.
Yeah, Arnold, put those up in the nest, buddy.
Yo, dude, that's crazy.
You know, it's funny.
You know, so for – and I won't get into it, but, you know, our shop, our Save Now shop part of our marketplace is going to have all different kinds of physical products.
And I've been swooping up shoes left and right wherever I can find them.
I've become like this total sneakerhead now trying to pull in as many different types of dope shoes I can sell on there.
Dude, I'd love to get some of those Zinu shoes.
You got to, you got to turn me on, bro.
Yeah, they're dope.
Like, yeah, they're dope.
I'll see if I can find them and push them up to the top.
But we're on to something here, Sid, because I believe that doing something like that,
even if you don't want to do that, you can do that without showing your face.
You just turn on the camera and play music, right?
100% dude. that you can do that without showing your face you just turn on the camera and play music right 100 dude half the time they just have the camera on the products and yeah they'll have somebody there if they want to be there but you can just show things on the camera and just be like yo
check a look at this design take a look at this design hey guess what this design's going up let
me tell you a little bit about let me tell you tell you about the art. And then within an hour,
you could shuffle through like 20 shirts. And it's that easy. I mean, for real, for real.
You know, if I wasn't juggling 15 businesses at once, man, if I was looking to make a little extra coin right now, I would be doing that in a heartbeat. So again, you have people up on the
stage here, you have people in the room here who have a lot of resources and a lot of knowledge in
the space. And I know that everybody up on the stage for sure. I see Zamanstein is in here. He
knows what I'm talking about. You know, IP is king. And there's a lot of money to be made there's a lot of money to be made uh with all this
art that we've collected uh and and you know if you think about how in the scheme of things how
many people really know about all this all the ld nfts that we're into i mean there's a fortune
to be had there what do you what do you think uh What do you think about that, Mario?
Oh, I think it's wonderful.
There's definitely lots of money to be made everywhere.
Dude, I'm bullish on that, Arnold.
I think we need to start writing on our live streaming on our marketplace.
We should have a 24-hour shop going there with people just streaming their NFT products.
Amazon does not have a QVC thing going on.
What'd you say?
I said Amazon has like a QVC type thing going on as well.
Oh, yeah.
Everybody does.
Listen, TikTok is unbelievable what they're doing over there.
You just start broadcasting, next thing you know, it's like you're selling stuff all night long.
I mean, I'm obsessed.
You know, Dustin, my dev, he's obsessed with trading cards.
There's so many people selling trading cards and ripping cards live on TikTok.
It's insane.
But the licensed t-shirts, Arnold, I think that's, I mean, the branded t-shirts, I think, is like a no-brainer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And even mugs.
Go ahead. Go ahead, boys.
No, I was going to ask Sid.
Apparently, he didn't read the email that we sent earlier.
You know, the division of Lockbox got, you know, we were branching out into Shopbox, which is 24 hour on his site.
Oh, really?
Let's go.
Let's go.
Let's go.
I didn't know.
Listen, that sounds like a plan, dude.
I love it.
I like Shopbox.
Trying to get that NFT minted right now.
So let me ask you this, Sid.
I know there's a lot of different resources, but is shop, shopping, you said shop and save?
Is that what you said?
Yeah, save now shop is just one of our platforms within Uwe for physical products.
for physical for physical products so if if somebody any anybody in the space didn't really
want to go searching for anything and they just want an easy solution they could go when ui
launches they could go to shop now same so no so no so if they want to go create their own store
with us they'll go to our gear nami website and we'll be, I mean, it's up now, but you're not going to be able to figure out exactly what to do.
But just like we did with the NFA shops, it's going to be a lot easier.
You'll literally just go onto Uwe, you're signed up for a shop, you'll be sent out your own link, and you'll be able to go like instantly upload your art.
It's so easy.
You upload your art art you pick out your
products and and within 15 minutes you can have your shop up and you can you can create hundreds
of shops so if you wanted to create a shop that's you know um that that's a z new shop you could do
a z new shop you want to design a shop for kids stuff you could do a Znew shop. You want to design a shop for kids' stuff, you could do kids.
Whatever your imagination is, you could literally go on there and create a shop.
Let's put it this way.
You could come up with 20 different brand names, go to Lockbox, reserve those names, and start.
And obviously, whether you use our services behind the scenes to help you with your trademarks copyrights patents whatever um you know once you figure out exactly where you stand with that idea man i would be opening shops right away and i'd be marketing to like i said i always start with
my friends and family but like arnold said nowadays guess what with with tick tock and amazon and youtube and all the other platforms that allow
you to go to sell whatnot i mean you could be you could be selling in 15 minutes
yeah that's awesome so thank you for for going through that i was just um thinking about it
because it's something that i i you know personally plan plan on doing, but I see voice's hand up.
So I'm going to go to voice.
Yeah, you know, I just wanted to make a little quick comment here because what Sid has been talking about this evening doesn't necessarily require the full big setup like what Arnold and I did.
Arnold and I did, you know, we're building a big brand. What he's talked about with the printing
You know, we're building a big brand.
on demand and selling the shirts and the space and limited runs, it's something that's fairly
easy for people to do. But just as a kind of a thought process, what you hear going on right now
in this discussion is how a lot of this stuff gets created. You know, I joked to him, they said,
oh, Lockbox is going into Shopbox. And then I thought, well, what the hell? And five minutes later, I've already found
out I can't do shop box and I can't do it shop box Z because those are taken domain names.
Doesn't mean I couldn't go through it, but the process is that simple, right? We're trying to
spur creative juices and people to go, anybody can do this. Had that name been available, I sure as shit would have grabbed the dot com right now.
And we would have probably had discussions in the background using that name afterwards.
That's just how simple this thing, this stuff really is to kind of get going.
And we're just always encouraging people to do it.
And I really appreciate the discussion that we're having this evening.
Yeah, I definitely do too. And I think there's a lot of value that,
you know, we have all these beautiful pieces of art, whether it's e-news,
dragons, there's so many NFTs that have IP rights. There's like we were saying before, music.
If you're an artist, right?
So it's definitely something that, you know, to me it's worthwhile to chop it up.
And just, you know, think about different ways we can utilize it.
Yo, did you go
check out shopbox.com, what it
No, I did not. It says that it was
locked up, but I hadn't gone. Have you
been there? Yeah, I went to go see
about the trademark.
They basically
do POS and payment platform.
It's
interesting that the first thing that you want to go
do, which I always say is you go check out, obviously, the URL, but go check out the
trademark, see what's going on there. Trademarks are interesting, you guys, because just because
you think that you can't get the trademark, it doesn't mean that you can't. Like, I'll give you
an example. I just did a trademark application.
eBay shut me down, right? They came to me. They wrote me a letter. I literally got it last week,
and I said, look, that's infringing on our trademark. We would appreciate if you just
withdraw the trademark. And of course, I did because you can't beat eBay. They're going to
throw you under the table and crush you with all the money they can put behind them.
But, you know, the one thing I've learned about trademarks, and I always use my famous trademark I have for Word, right?
So I own the word Word.
I have a trademark for it.
It's a registered mark for accessories, apparel, et cetera.
apparel, et cetera. Now, Microsoft owns Word for what they use it for, right? For their
products, for their Word application. But just because I own the name Word for clothing,
et cetera, accessories, et cetera, maybe someone could come along tomorrow and decide to make a drink just called Word,
and then they could go license it for a drink.
So trademarks are broken up into categories,
and there's a boatload of categories that you can get a trademark in.
So when you're thinking about a brand name and you're thinking about,
okay, what category do I want to have it under?
What do I want it to be protected under?
That's another thing, again, having the right team behind you, like Arnold Voice, myself,
and our team behind us to kind of help you kind of make your way through that to figure out, okay,
how do I actually protect myself and make sure that the category that I'm trying to get
covers what you want, right? Because the last thing you want to
do is think, oh, you want to think, okay, well, I got this trademark, but then you realize,
hey, I can't even use it for what I think I could use it for. But yeah, it's interesting.
You know, I built my whole career on IP from day one, I got my trademark for the original Brimless cap and the word pierced attached to clothing. If you've ever seen a hat or a shirt with a body piercing in it, that was my trademark. Then I patented it, putting piercings in hats and in clothing.
That was like really in my original Brimless cap was my trademark, but also my patent.
So, you know, this is something that's fascinated me since I was 1920.
And it's kind of been a running joke with all my friends because anytime I have an idea, I just go trademark it.
I do whatever I need to do.
If I come up with art, I copyright it.
If I come up with a TV show, I register it, whatever it may be. I'm always like, I could literally be at dinner, have an
idea. And the next thing you know, just like Voice was doing, I've got the URL. I've already
hit my attorney up and I'm throwing out a, you know, a trademark. But in this case, you don't have to be so formal, right? We have
all this IP. You know, IP is this art that everybody has in their wallets. Like, I say,
just in this room alone, how many people are in here? There's 60 people in here, 50 people.
I mean, we have potentially millions of dollars in IP just sitting in our wallets that
nobody's using right now, right? For real, for real. And I believe that with all my heart.
Look at Xenu. I mean, we all are in here. We all love the Xenu brand. We love the Xenu characters.
I know that Mario does. You know, we have the IP rights for these characters.
I mean, there's a fortune just to be made with the Xenu brand and a gazillion other brands.
I'll give you an example of where IP isn't usable.
Like in the Homies brand that we put out, our collectibles, we couldn't give out ip rights because it belongs to dave gonzalez
and his ip rights are being held for when he does his tv show and his movies and his video games
and he's very protective of his ip um so that was one of the main reasons why we couldn't give out
ip rights um but in in the case of most the n NFTs are out there, these IP rights are very valuable.
What's up, Voice? Yeah, I was wondering if you could speak a little bit. I mean, considering
that you ran NFA and you may understand this a bit better than the rest of us, what kind of IP
rights do you have for some of these projects that are no longer active, have dev teams, you know, they've kind
of gone away completely and they're not around anymore, but you do have the NFTs in your wallet.
Do you have any stance on kind of what you can and can't do with that?
Yeah. So, I mean, typically if you were given IP rights, right, and I'll give you an example.
When you go to the Homies project and you read the rights that come with it, you'll see that it expressly says you don't have IP rights.
Mario, in the Xenu project, does it say in the metadata that you have IP rights?
Not in the metadata.
The contract, it was published on the privacy policy website.
Okay. So in the contract, it was published. So can somebody see that all the time?
On the website, not on the contract. If, in fact, a project disappears, but you were given the IP rights, the IP rights stand whether or not that company is still in existence.
Once you've been granted those IP rights, those are yours.
And so you can do with what you want with them forever.
Now, yeah, I mean, you may have the rights to the art.
Yeah, I mean, you may have the rights to the art. Keep in mind, a lot of times you may have rights to the physical art, but you may not have rights to use the name. So again, I don't know if what in the case of Xenu, just to use that as an example, did you give IP rights to use the brand name along with the characters?
along with the characters?
Yes, we went over this last time,
but it's a good place to go over it here.
Since it's the .
So the way it works for Xenu is that you basically just
can't represent the brand Xenu.
So obviously, all of these ZMSS NFPs are Xenu's.
And so you can incorporate Xenu into the naming of something,
but you can't do it in a way that it's like the original Xenu,
the Xenu, the company Xenu, stuff like that.
So you just can't represent us,
and you can't use the normal, I guess,
naked Xenu without permission.
Because Xenu without any clothes on just the
orange dog and the bandage uh and the scar that is protected but what if you want what if i wanted to
do xenu pizza new pizza uh i mean i guess as long as you have one of yours news on it
I mean, I guess as long as you have one of your Xenus on it, in theory, that would be fine.
Okay.
So like the one that I have on my Xenu has Xenu on the hoodie?
Is that what you mean?
What are you saying?
Like the one that you have up right now?
No, not the one that I have up right now, but I have another one that on its hoodie,
it says Zinu and you can see it.
Yeah.
I mean, you can, you can use it like that.
That's your NFT.
It has that trade on it.
I guess my question was, do you need something like that for the, to be able to say Zinu
pizza or you can't say Zinu pizza?
I just want to make sure everybody's clear. I'm clear
because we spoke about it a couple weeks ago. Yeah, no, you'd be fine even if you didn't have
that sweater trait with Zinu on it. The only thing you can't do, like I said, is you can't
represent the parent company. You can't portray yourself as an owner of the Zinu company.
portray yourself as an owner of the Zena company. That makes sense. Yeah, so you just got to make
sure that when you're looking into the projects or the artwork that you have, if you know you
have the IP rights, you just want to make sure that number one, you know, to what extent can you use the name,
right? So you have a lot of people, you've seen a lot of people butt heads with with
Yuga Labs when it comes to, you know, branding the Board API Club or Basie next to their
characters. Obviously, in the case of Snoop, he branded Dr. Bombay, made it his own, but
you don't see him using Basie's Dr.
Bombay. You know what I mean? He's kind of created his own IP around his character, Dr. Bombay. And
a lot of companies and a lot of brands don't want you to be able to utilize their name, right? They
don't want their name, you know, like I don't want to have Bored Ape Yacht Club.
You know, again, I'm just going to use the example. Maybe they do.
But let's say they don't want to have Bored Ape Yacht Club Vodka because they just don't want their brand name attached to vodka. It doesn't mean that you couldn't do you couldn't take their character and do something like, you know, something spirits or bored.
Let's just say you just did bored spirits and now you're
utilizing one of your own bored apes that you have the IP rights for would probably not get you in
any trouble with them. They probably couldn't say very much. I doubt that they own the word bored,
but I will say this. I tried to, you know, back in the day when I was working with Brando with his board ape, his mutant ape that is the pizza ape, we built a brand together called Mutant Pizza.
And we went through the whole, you know, the whole thing of getting a trademark or applying for a trademark.
At the end of the day it turned out that
somebody had trademarked the word mutant next to almost every food um and so he kind of had
established that mutant next to a food item was his trademark and so uh what was that rich piana
you know is it maybe i don't. It was around before the apes.
Yeah, I mean, Rich Piana died before that.
Yeah, maybe. It may be. But yeah, he basically he basically had mutant attached to every food you could imagine.
And that was it. Like we couldn't do mutant pizza.
But again, you can always work around branding because it doesn't have to be mutant pizza for us to do the pizza brand utilizing the Bored Ape.
And I haven't been shy about mentioning this.
We've licensed over 150 Bored Apes.
So I've licensed Bored Apes, Mutant Apes, Kennel Club, et cetera, from a lot of different holders in the space.
And we are building out an entire brand around the IP that I licensed from people that own those rights.
So that's the other thing that you could put together.
So that's the other thing that you could put together.
You could kind of put together your slew of IP and then offer it out to other people who may be interested in licensing it from you.
Now, I would say this.
I just kind of got this information in the next, let'semary, I always told you, if you created your Diamond Xenus, but those Diamond Xenus were pendants that you sold for $35,000, $45,000, $50,000, there is a category of investors that are coming into Web3 that's going to have a lot of money.
investors that are coming into Web3 that's going to have a lot of money. So sometimes we think,
okay, you know, there's high-end brands that you can also create or start thinking about now,
because when, as the system changes over, wealthy investors are going to have a lot of this,
a lot of the tokens and a lot of the digital assets that they're gonna trade you know or buy it you know they might see a pendant that they want for
their wife that's the Z new diamond that cost $50,000 so that's another market
that we need to look at how the luxury brands did it like Prada like you know
all these luxury brands but just do it for web 3 because the money is coming
okay I have that on lockbox.
I'm just kidding. You said, you said what we're doing.
Not now, but eventually that is definitely one of the things that I want to do.
What an awesome idea. Absolutely. And you've got the IP for that.
You know, everyone already knows about what you were doing there with your diamonds.
And in case anybody hadn't seen it, Nifty, I don't know if you've seen it.
And I don't know if Mario, you've seen them before.
Up in the nest now, Arnold has the shoes that he created.
And not only that, but the box of the shoes has got an awesome Xenu on it as well so for anybody
who hasn't had a chance to see these things yet go up in the nest and take a look at that picture
and this is what if you ask me the epitome of what you can do with your IP right plus he's got art
that he doesn't have on display here some limited limited collection stuff. I know Meg has got one and a couple other people do.
But this is just showing you the possibilities that are there.
And I think these things are on fire.
Yeah, dude, I already reposted them out.
They look super dope.
Yeah, and imagine if you could set up and have this on a WhatsApp show or not WhatsApp, but the platform, right?
And this design, a lot of people in Japan, they kind of like these kind of colors and design.
But imagine if you could sell these as collectibles, right?
So imagine just sitting there with your camera on these and you're just talking about that, talking about the shoe, and then you bring out a hoodie because I have a hoodie or you bring out a mug.
I mean, you could create for yourself an amazing brand just with maybe three items that you picked to showcase.
One hundo.
And look, I'm willing, anybody in the space who wants to or who who wants some direction or wants help to create that, definitely hit me up.
And I'll be glad to get you hooked up with your own shop.
It'll literally take you 15 minutes to set it up and you could be rocking and making products immediately.
As a matter of fact, even though this isn't a, it's not a perfect representation, but we just
launched our Nifty's World store at nifty'sworld.com. So if you go to nifty'sworld.com,
we'll be promoting the items. I think I have 30 items up there right now, mostly t-shirts,
sweatshirts, hoodies. I have a stemless wine glass, and I have a tumbler, a couple backpacks.
But right now I have, like I said, 30 products up there.
All of it's print on demand.
All of it's made from my factories.
And it was really easy for me to do.
And you guys know how I like to do it.
I kind of customize all my stuff.
So my store is custom on our website.
But even that kind of thing, with just very little help from our part,
we can help you set this up.
And you can have your own store up immediately.
What's up, Herm? What up, what up big sid what up kid i just heard you talking about ip rights and i mean for me ip rights are important i don't buy into any projects if they don't have
full ip rights um now sometimes uh partial ip rights that's fine for me as well because partial IP
rights come with restrictions and that's where the uh project founders don't want you to use
their art for any dodgy shit like you know uh porn sites or or whatever but the thing is I mean like
what you were saying there Sid I'll give you an example you know you could have um I mean even um
you can use your board apes for um for your own IP for restaurants for example and you can use your Bored Apes for your own IP for restaurants, for example. And you can use the Bored name.
You just can't use the full name.
You can't use anything that is on their trademark because that belongs to them.
But you can use the art.
And a good example of this is Bored and Hungry.
It's a fast food place.
They do burgers, fries, and other types of fast food.
And four of those restaurants have just opened up here in the philippines recently they started over in long beach in california yeah and uh they've grown
since you know and they have pictures of the if the guy owns the board ape he's got pictures of
his board ape that he owns he can have one two or three whatever he owns he can put it on the
packaging and that's what he does so you get your burger you open her up it comes in a box with a
board ape on it your drink has a board ape Ape on it. Your little fries package has a Bored Ape on it. And it does look kind of cool. It gravitates
towards people. You see it in a mall. And anybody that knows anything about Web3 will go like,
oh, look, there's a Bored Ape place. Let's go over there and eat their burgers. So it stands out.
Yeah, listen, I know Kevin very well, the guy who started Bored and Hungry.
I was there at the opening of the store.
Genius idea.
Unfortunately, Long Beach did close, but I know that his expansion was going into the Philippines,
and I didn't realize he had four of them open.
But, yeah, man, that's a great use of the IP.
You know, there's Bored Bagels.
There's a lot of Bored Ape-related companies and brands now.
You had, you know, even Bored Water came out.
So definitely, definitely, listen, like I said, I have a lot of Bored Ape IP.
I haven't announced what I'm doing with it yet, but just know we're going to be launching something big with our Bored Ape IP.
I'll kind of give it away a little bit, but you probably won't figure out 100%.
But we'll be launching it at Nifty's World in Vegas.
Yeah, that's going to be awesome.
I can't wait to see all the really cool things that you're
doing sid yo by the way joey i don't know if you've been to the website yet hopefully joey can
hear me but there's a couple of joey's dope ass designs he came up with for nifty's world
that are up here uh he did this really sick comic book cover um that we turned into a t-shirt and it's one of my favorites. I just ordered it today so I should have it in the next four or five days.
But if you guys get a chance you should check it out. It looks like an old school comic from like the 60s. The colors, the vibe it and uh 10 cent price for the comic book it's
it's pretty sick
yeah i have to go back and check that out i was just there the other day
and um i know you said a lot of things were updating often, so I'll have to get back over there.
And I do want to shout out Joey and take just a minute
because he's amazing, and he did help me with some of the visuals
for the posts leading up to the space.
So thank you, Joey.
Yeah, we got dreams. dreams. What's going on?
What's good. What's good. How you guys doing?
Yeah. What up dreams? What's up? What's up? Um, yeah, I've been fucking,
I've been just purely, um, signing contracts like left and right lately about like
stuff I'm, I'm getting involved in. I'm about to be going to like an
infocom convention and there's like a bunch of like technology that's going to be there around
like showcasing like video production and stuff um there's some like tech companies that wanted
to like meet up with me there um yeah that's just kind of what i'm doing now also documenting a
whole entire month on a single piece of art for a high-end event right now. Just kind of
full force going into 3D art with the startup tech company and yeah just seeing where this all goes.
Yeah I'm just excited for the future. There's a lot of opportunity right now in Web3 especially
with all the stuff going down with all the coins like dropping and like I don't know there's just
a lot of opportunity to be doing good stuff right now.
Yep, 100%. And like, you know, like everybody's been talking about, IP rights and utilizing those to create your own space, you know space with the IP rights
and actually earning for yourself, it's a real thing.
People are doing it, and it's going to be huge,
and Web3 is facilitating all of that.
So you're right.
Oh, yeah.
It's exciting times.
It's been super cool.
I've been really enjoying just the whole entire world of 3D art lately
a lot more
than I realized um like just the use cases of like every day-to-day use and like just noticing
how like the world's just changing to become more immersive is just really exciting for me personally
and hopefully I can educate people I'm just trying to get to a point where I can like start up like
my whole entire like um I don't know I want to start up a whole entire like charity for like education on 3D art.
Cause like, it's one of those things that I feel like is so niche in this world right now,
but it's really needed in life.
Yeah, that's exciting.
You'll have to share, share your journey with us along the way, dreams.
I know you're an artist, right?
Yeah, I'm starting to enter into like fine art.
Someone's like kind of pulling me into that world.
So I'm trying to see like what I can do within that world.
It opens up a lot of doors in terms of like funding and the people you're around and like
just pushing something out there into the world that actually is like good for
culture you know um so I'm just kind of navigating that whole system um in the most like ethical way
possibly can yeah that's amazing
I think we have um Moonbeam with his hand up.
Yeah, I'm a girl, and I love what you're saying.
3D, I'm an artist.
What you're doing, what you just said, is freaking awesome because the kids need to understand their avenues
because, like, they don't teach cursive.
AI is going to take over all jobs.
They need to learn cyber security like
there needs to be a different route and to learn 3d i'm a graphic designer and an artist and when
i did my first 3d uh multi-dimensional piece i was overwhelmed for days like i was like oh my god
you know somebody showed me this platform and I could do this and
it taught other people to do it so it's the route to go you guys um this is where it's at for kids
um because when I was in school we didn't have this like I was taught on a commodore 64 I had
to do coding to make a ball go from one end to the other. Literally, we only had a C prompt.
We didn't have any of this other stuff and a floppy disk.
Now, to look at me, if you see a picture of me, you would not think that.
But I have the old Commodore.
I have the floppy disk.
I have the coding.
I am, like, so happy I don't have to do that, you guys.
I love you.
I love Web3.
The technology is freaking awesome. I'm going from then to now. I love you. I love web three. Um, the technology is freaking awesome. I'm going from then to
now. I love it. But the kids, like you said, if you could start something to help the kids
understand, they have somewhere to go because right now in school, they don't, they're learning
the same things. You guys, they are are learning you need to be like a lawyer or
like an attorney you know they're not learning you could be in cyber security or you could do
coding or you could do this that and the third within what's going on now so I think that's great
great idea with the 3d and teaching because I was was ecstatic, like I'm still ecstatic,
you know, because I learned something new.
And it's coming from that to now.
I love technology and you, we're in the age of technology.
Yeah, I think, I think that technology, the technologies that have been coming out and
they're coming so fast, you know, open so many different opportunities.
And that's why I was really passionate.
And Boyce and Arnold and I have been trying to keep the IP going for a while.
Because, you know, whether you're an artist or musician or like Mario, he's the creator.
He created these beautiful 3D Zinus fully animated.
There's nothing like that out there. They're beautiful. And, you know, most people who have
seen them love them because they're different. They're not like what everything else is out there.
But, you know, it just opens so many doors for people to to be creative I am by nature I'm not
that creative but I do um love art and I have IP so it fits that way for me and it's so cool but
I'm yeah it's so cool that you you acknowledge his art I was almost in tears when he said that because us artists like him being able to do that
a lot of us don't get recognized and we don't let it beat us down because a starving artist
is a starving artist but you made it guy you you got this and I don't want you to lose it
it's like I am I I have so many projects that I do content creating for and I learn something new every day.
And when I learned how to do 3D multidimensional of my art into a 3D like I could take my art.
I do a lot of jellyfish and I can make it completely into a 3d character and then put it into a movie
I was astounded I mean and I think that you you have a good thing there I think that teaching us
as artists because it's so much more now than pen and paper and a lot of people think that
we're cheesy like you're using the ai or this that and the third
and what people need to understand and i hope you guys teach is that it is still not easy we may use
ai we may use these platforms but you have to have a prompt you have to have coding you have to have
this and the other you can't just type something in and it's going to come up what you want it to come up. And I think a lot of people think it's too easy.
You're right.
It's an actual skillset,
right?
It's,
it's a whole skill set.
I mean,
it's,
it's insane.
The prompts,
prompts I have to go through to get what I want to go.
And I've been with the platform I've been with for about six years and they
use,
which I'm great.
I'm so, I love it.
They use the prompts.
My recipes is what I call it.
And they put that on the pro.
So when you upgrade to pro, you can use my prompts because I came up with that.
And it's awesome.
It's not easy.
I mean, I always tell people to go in, get on a grok or whatever and type something
in. If it's that easy and what you're seeing is what you want, okay, bye. I'm not going to hire
you. I won't hire you. I wouldn't want you to do anything for my screenplays just because it was
that easy for you. You had no thought. You know, there's no integration in that so it's a lot harder than and I do fashion
design so it's a lot harder and it's it's good to be noticed kudos to you that do that does the 3d
follow me because I would love to see your art I I'm growing still and that's awesome.
Well, thank you for sharing that with us. I'm going to go over to Brump for just a moment.
Welcome back. Nice to see you stop by. I think we lost Exinct. If you want to come back,
you're welcome to come back up. You didn't lose me can you hear me who
is talking
it's Brump you just said
oh yeah no
I'm glad I was saying I'm glad that you
stopped by tonight
since we were talking the other day but we
lost someone else that was up there I was just
inviting them back up if
they're able to okay well I
really appreciate your spaces Rosemaryemary, and Voice of Reason.
I've followed you guys, and, you know, that's what I've been doing a lot of, you know, in spaces, you know,
because I have a lot of other things to, besides my meme coin projects,
which I'm not trying to shill at all in any way, shape, or form.
I'm a very patient person, and it was kind of more my testing ground, honestly,
you know, using AI tools that I used to create AI tools and other things. But, you know, I have other interests and I was really, really enjoying this conversation today. I do a lot of listening
and learning and then coming up with, you know, relevant things that, you know, maybe I can
actually ask people or, you know, put a future, you know, like side note, hey, you know, I'd love to contact you.
So then they kind of like, you know, at least kind of understand where I'm going with some of the things that I want to work on or I am working on presently.
You know, like over the last year and a half, actually, I've been working on NFT collection and, you know, way before I ever launched a meme coin.
That was one of my first goals.
And I've still never stopped with it because I really like it
because it is digital art you know like the the stuff I'm doing I don't doggone anybody else or
what they're doing or I love 8-bit stuff you know I'm 51 years old so I definitely had a Pong and a
Commodore 64 and an old black and white tv where I used to have to be the antenna you know on
Saturday morning cartoons for my with the aluminum foil yeah. No, I used to be that guy. We would
take turns being that person, me and my three older sisters, but in saying so, I'm very interested
and I really enjoyed, you know, your insights and, you know, like some of the things, you know,
I take bits and pieces and kernels and then I go out and I research them and I come back
to spaces, especially like this with really great people with good crypto and business acumen and IRL, you know, I mean that, you know, that's where
you need to be.
And I've met dreams, uh, it was months and months ago, but you know, really great guy.
I mean, you can hear his genuineness and his voice and his passion.
And that means the world to me, you know, I haven't had much contact with him since
those, those couple of spaces I was in, but you know, it was impacting to me, you know, I haven't had much contact with him since those, those couple spaces I was in, but you know, it was impacting to me, you know, and it was inspirational to me. And,
you know, that's the kind of stuff that I think more and more people need to get out of their,
their echo chambers in these smaller spaces where, you know, I told some people today,
don't drink the full glass of Kool-Aid, take sips until you know, if it's the, the,
the people you want to be around you
know and some of these places where they just literally like trying to create their communities
and kol and use their communities whereas these spaces yeah i like that yeah it's like jim jones
you know they're jim jones and people some of these spaces and their projects and you know like
the the hosts and, you know,
to each their own. But, you know, I do try to spread awareness of that. Like, you know,
these kind of spaces are here for people to actually not even, you know, sometimes collaborations
come out of them. But a lot of it is just bouncing things back and forth and knowledge
for people listening or maybe for themselves. And then pretty soon they're enlightened. And
these are the kind of spaces I love.
That's all I'm going to say.
And nifty vicious and ending my spiel here,
you know,
my long winded spiel.
I would love to approach you as I get further in the development of my
NFT collection specifically.
And then possibly Arnold,
I would love to hit you up as I get closer to creating the uh i'm a
musician i spent 25 years in the entertainment business so i've worked for all the biggest bands
in the world doesn't mean i'm the greatest but i was a guitar tech drum tech bass tech production
manager stage manager and i i spent most of my life with a backpack uh guitar on my back and uh
playing music and i just now recently started going back and
creating, revamping and remastering some of my music from different bands. And I would love to
create an album. And when I do that IP stuff and everything you were talking about, I would love
to pick your ear about, you know, doing it properly, you know, like releasing an album
and attaching it to everything you were discussing. And Nifty Vicious, like I an album and attaching everything you were discussing.
And Nifty Vicious, like I said, I would love to approach you with your storefront and everything you're doing with Ship on Demand.
And because I do have a product line for my NFTs, because I think this is something that will transcend,
like you were talking about the cups and that fast food chain.
Well, I think that my NFTs, I won't go into them,
but there'll be eight collections
dropped at once with 222 in each one.
And there's a reason for it
that I will say later,
but they will be works of art
that people will actually,
that don't even aren't involved in crypto,
that don't even hold the NFT,
will still want to hang on their wall,
you know, like gallery type pieces
that I think you
might like well brother by the way this is sid uh aka nifty i just sent you my my number so let's
definitely connect in the back channels we'd love to get you hooked up with a with a store and
we're the same generation so uh can't wait to hear what you're up to and what you're trying to build
and and you pick the right space to jump in you have a lot of people up here very knowledgeable um and people like i said who
want to work with each other and help uh you know i think that i can speak on behalf of everybody we
we really kind of live by or at least i do you know uh if if it's helping out the community it's
helping out all of us it doesn't matter uh and And so, you know, we want this thing to
grow and we want it to grow, you know, across all these different channels. So appreciate you
rolling through here. Rosemary, I'm going to jump in an elevator. I'm here under the OOE as well.
So I'm going to jump back up under the OOE account in a minute in case I get locked out. But shout
out to everybody who's come through here tonight. There's been a lot of great information. I think we should keep this going. I would love to have
this be a weekly space, Rose, and Voice,
and Arnold, if that's something you guys are down for.
But yeah, man, there's a lot
to be talked about still that we haven't even touched on yet. So
much love, everybody and uh we'll chop
it up soon mario word i'll talk to you later bro hold on sid sid dm me when you're when you're
have your cell service back because i want to know more about your shop thingy i'll send you a dm
right now brother all right sounds good thanks yeah dude we connected back in the day i don't
know if you remember that. No, I know.
We're in group chat together already.
I know.
Yep, I know.
Okay, I'm sending you my number.
Yeah, I just wanted to let you know because when I saw you pop up here.
But, yeah, you guys, anybody who's in the room, just FYI,
if you have a project and you want to be featured in our marketplace
or if you want help to build out your print-on-demand shop, just hit me up, send me a DM,
reach out to Arnold, reach out to Voice. They're both my partners on some stuff I'm building on
Who We. Rosemary's involved with Who We. There's a lot of people here that are, we're all working
together. And so if you know anybody that knows me, they how to get me and if you don't know how to get me
just shout out your window yo and you'll get me by the way i just did the most classic thing
mario i don't know if you've ever done this before but if you go to chat gpt or any of your
you know favorite ai uh sites just put something in there based on everything you know about me roast me and do not
hold back uh and watch what it comes up dude it's the funniest shit ever i wish i could share what
it said about me it's just completely exactly on point um well yeah i'm probably not going to do
that because me and my wife share my chat gT account. And so I'll probably think I'm transgender or something.
That's so funny you respect your wife like that.
That's the sweetest thing I think I've ever heard.
Me and my wife share chat GPT.
Because I would be the same way.
Like, why are you doing that?
I could not share my chat GPT with anybody.
I'm glad I'm divorced.
Yeah, I would not be able to.
No, you know something? I could totally.
My wife, I don't think anything I could do could phase her.
But I do respect that.
But it was pretty funny.
It basically was like, yo, on your drive, you're going to come up with 12 ideas and trademark and patent it.
And it just was, it probably is listening to everything we talked about tonight because half the shit it came up with was about stuff from this call.
But it was pretty funny.
I have another app like that, that if you put your name, because I'm a book, I have a children's book that's published.
I write screenplays, children's books, all kinds of stuff.
So I put my name in there and they were like, okay, if you put your name in there, it's going to tell you.
I was like, nah, this is a sham.
And I put my name in there and it did the same exact thing. you're with dorance publishing you are with barnes noble you have your
book the enchanted camel blah blah it's like there's a million of me out there with the same
name i couldn't believe it i couldn't believe it it's almost too smart hey let's uh i want to hear xink is am i saying your name right
it's actually x inc and um yeah so so we're a clothing brand and the x inck is like based on an NFT with the idea that NFTs are digital art.
So it's X-Ink as in there's no ink.
That was my whole play on the words there.
I just wanted to touch base on the IP rights because I am a big fan of the IP rights
and what Sid was saying about trademark trademarking trademark infringement and stuff
like that you have to be really careful uh my buddy Tio's in the room he knows exactly what
I'm talking about when you get permission to go do something um read between the lines because
when you get permission to do something it might not be exactly what you thought um
but uh the one thing that i did different with my project
and the ip rights was because i am a clothing brand um if you have one of our nfts with our brand
name on it you can print it on your shirts if you were doing that like that print on demand, but you can't market the shirt as an X-Ink product.
But being a holder of an X-Ink, or it's actually the Platosaurus's name of the project,
being a holder of that does give you the ability to purchase our blank shirts because we're not
off the rack.'ve i've actually designed
all my t-shirts myself from the sizing the fabric the stitching the thread the whole nine yards is
done at home and uh so we thought we would do something a little different and give you the
ability if you wanted to do your own online marketing or your own online shop you could do that using our products using our
name kind of deal if that makes sense yeah it does yeah it does it's like you guys kind of flipped uh
i think what you're saying you kind of flip the script on how that works and you actually like
you design the actual t-shirts right is that what you're saying like you designed the actual products every everything that everything that you see is what i've done personally in my
own home the so what i did was i did it backwards so back in the day four or five years ago we all
bought nfts we liked it we all thought we were early this is great let's do this you got given a
roadmap on this is what you were going to receive based upon you know somebody allocating the funds
the right way what i did was backwards i did x inc the branding the brand is coming out with the
project we have an online game that you're going to be able to play as a holder and win prizes giveaways like all sorts of stuff but i didn't base by the nft on hopes and dreams
i did the hopes and dreams part first self-funded by myself and then by the nft and then be part of
the community and let's build the brand together
because i don't know everything and you might have a great idea on you know your favorite outfit
and because i'm designing my own clothing we can modify anything to make it better
and stuff like that so that's what we're doing building a brand together wow Wow, I love that. That's really creative. Because this is what I believe, like,
especially now that we see, okay, if like we've been talking, right, so the world is changing.
So with AI, a lot of jobs are going to be eliminated. But it allows you with Web3 to use
these tools like Moonbeam was talking about to really get creative, create your own ideas and brands the way you see it,
and then you connect to communities that are worldwide through Web3.
So the opportunity can be even bigger for people who in the future may lose their jobs,
but then they open up that creative part of them that they always wanted to do,
and then they can come into spaces or connect with their communities and build their brands worldwide.
So to me, that's brilliant.
Well, that was kind of my look on Web3.
I love the whole community base of Web3.
I think brand building in web3 is the future like we can all
go to a marketing agency do marketing obviously that's what i do but at the end of the day the
community-based marketing is key in today's society and just like you say like how things are going
but i like the idea of the way i built the brand like we had
like um paramount pictures uh paramount max filmed our our advertising commercial my biteo again down
there he's in there and um i went around the world to find the fabric to find the thread
like everything that i've done i did it to somebody I mentioned earlier in space
um high quality fashion so I went to a skate shop to potentially sell my product to them
and the guy literally said to me oh as you can see I only carry high quality and I was like
you have Nike New Balance and all this stuff that's all made in
exactly the same factory it's just a hundred percent cotton it's the cheapest stitch you
could ever imagine i was like that's not high quality it's just a well-known name where i'm
saying i'm going to give you a better quality now let's build the name let's make the name something i want to be
a household name i want the community to benefit from this so that's why i say we're
no bullshit clothing and we're big on giving back
nice i love it i'm gonna check you guys out
yeah thank you for coming up and sharing that with us well it's the perfect space like when
i saw this space and ip rights so somebody had also talked about ip rights and dead projects
so we also own the underwear line rugs and essentially rug projects i'm utilizing ip
rights if you're in the community and you want to to use one utilize their IP rights
to recuperate like recoup some money that they have lost over the time of being wrecked.
This is where like I think like NFTs just have like a massive hold in terms of like
them just becoming the next
sport.
Like the next time like NFTs roll around, like hopefully the tech out there and like
the coding that's deeply rooted into NFTs is like completely different.
Yo, by the way, I saw that Aaron just popped up here.
What's up, Aaron?
Hello.
Hi, everybody.
Thanks for having me up. This is this is sid under the ui banner hey
sid well i thought you were in here and that's why i got the notification and then i read the uh
ip rights and uh and i when you see three fire emojis you can't skip it right you have to come
here that's that's the that's the bad signal to all righteous people in NFTs and the Web3 to come hang with us.
Yes.
So I had to come in because, as you know, for reasons we can't talk about right now, I'm very much into IP rights.
And I think that's where it goes. I'll say from just hearing a little bit is, you know, when people were talking about the next board ape and the next NFT boom, it's not coming.
Like, it's not coming in the way that anybody thinks.
You know, we had an NFT boom in 2021, 22.
You know, it was hyped.
It was all over the place.
And then people came in and just got eaten alive, you know, when they tried to come in and, you know, play with the DGENs.
We're not going to have another DGEN giant push again, I don't think.
coming in that actually like the art, like the IP, uh, and just want to participate as opposed
to trying to like degen the shit out of everybody else. They're just going to come in because they
enjoy the characters. Like I don't go to Disneyland because I'm trying to own Disneyland.
You know, like I don't buy a statue of like Walt Disney and Mickey Mouse, which I have in my office
because I'm like, I'm going to own that company.
I buy it because I really like it.
Like my action figures, I'm a dork, right?
Like I don't buy, I don't go to,
I don't go to like hunt action figures because I'm like,
I'm going to own the Superman IP.
Like I buy it because I enjoy it.
And that's the next wave of people working,
you know, people coming into NFTs aren't going to know that they're NFTs.
They're not going to care.
They're not going to need to know anything about our space.
We are the pioneers.
We are the experts.
They don't need to know anything.
That's where the next big wave is coming from.
And by the way, that's what we're doing at board council with the Diviverse and other things coming up.
That's what we're
doing because the market needs to expand.
And if we're not going to expand it, I mean, you know, all of us, nobody's going to.
Well, thank you for coming up, Aaron, and sharing that with us.
Thank you for having me.
Yeah, absolutely.
Definitely. It's awesome to meet all these great people tonight and sharing the same interests.
I'm just going to go to Pads real quick because we didn't get a chance to touch there.
And it looks like he's got his hand up.
So welcome.
Yeah, thank you for having me up.
I just wanted to build on what aaron's just been talking about there like i've got no affiliation with these projects but there's two people who come to mind
that i think you'd really get on with is um one of them sterry eath and the other one's the mad queen
and they're both kind of working with kind of 3d digital assets
and stuff um sterry is one of my friends and he he's got like a irl kind of apparel like fashion
brand and stuff i think that you'd really get on with him aaron so i just wanted to say that
oh thank you i just yeah like if. If you ever want to connect me,
thank you very much.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Definitely.
I can't really think about how to send the link.
I'll DM you anyway.
But your project sounds really cool.
And this is what's good about these, right?
Because I've just come up there and learned about, like, a load of cool stuff as well.
So thank you.
Thank you for coming up.
I see Moonbeam has her hand up.
Yeah, I was going to say one other thing before i go my kittens are staring
at me because they're babies and they need like tuna or something i don't know but you guys were
talking about um i'm a fashion designer too i do a little bit of everything you guys can follow me
i do have four accounts i have a stalker but i do deal with galleries warner Brothers. So I don't like some of the posts on some of my profiles. So
I will, I have a couple and I'll tell you when you have your own brand of, um, merchandise,
that is so cool that you did that. The IP rights, really, really cool. That's what I did was
everything that I've done since I started was copywritten, um, NFTs, projects, anything. So when it's used, it can be used,
but it is copywritten. So they would not be able to use my art and put it in their store on a
product. Like I do skateboards, surfboards, snowboards. So be careful with that. Be careful
with allowing them to use your art to put it on whatever.
Because you would have people like me that would make you a lot of money with them not being allowed.
Like if you want that on something, let you know.
And you'll have that done.
Because that's your art.
And a lot of people will use, and I've noticed this from the beginning they will reconstruct your piece and because it has
no IP it has no copyright so they can take what you made and make it into kind of something else
and then throw it onto a product and you see it on a shirt and you're like wow so it hasn't
happened to me because I did take business law copyright law so I'm a little different. So be careful. And as far as music, music entities are really booming right now.
So I just want you guys to be wary.
If you're an artist, be very, very careful.
Know that your rights to your art, that's your art.
What I create is mine.
Nobody else can create it.
Yeah, you can save it and do a screensaver or whatever.
But you can't put it on clothing.
And it sounds like he has the materials that he came up with everything.
So he's like, you know what I mean?
It's very important that his stuff is his.
So that's that's what I would say is be very careful.
No, that's a good story.
That reminds me.
And let me just share this with you.
So probably about when I was younger, let me just say that I was a young artist.
And that's how I met my wife.
She was an artist and I was an artist.
And we entered a contest with the Harlem Globetrotters.
And this was back in the day.
And, you know, you had to compete against a bunch of artists.
We had the mock-ups.
And then all of a sudden, they loved our design.
They brought us in.
They said, we're going to make T-shirts.
We're going to give you all of this.
You know what I'm saying?
They had all our art.
But we were so young and dumb that we never, they took our art.
We never heard from them.
And then all of a sudden, probably about a month and a half later, we see our design running around on the court.
I would be so fussy.
I just said content creating for Scottie Pippen.
I would be so fussy.
I would be like fussy fustersons.
I mean, you guys didn't do anything wrong.
You trusted the Harlem Globetrotters to not do that.
See?
Oh, my God.
What did you do?
We were young.
We were like really, really young.
We didn't do anything.
I mean, you know, we lost our heart.
And, you know, we just, you know what I mean?
We were just young, so we went on to something else but
we didn't have any information we were young we didn't have any lawyers you know we were just
happy to get accepted into this contest you know what i mean right and they are actually using your
art so it's it's a you know what i mean you could say that's actually mine you know yeah
but that goes to your point that you know getting ip rights is important
it's not easy it's not easy it's like if when you make your work you have to be on a platform
that's going to copyright it immediately like and ip rights that's that's like not even as
important as copywritten because copywritten they can't download your art and do what they did to you
$1,000 fine so they would not be they would not the IP rights
They actually probably would have slid by but if it was copywritten
There would have been no way they would have went you they would have gotten a lot of trouble so copyright is very
Very important. I mean and right now in the music and empty they would have went you they would have gotten a lot of trouble so copyright is very very important
i mean and right now in the music nmt um industry copyright is a sham like you can use any beat
and make a beat and make a music nmt and make a lot of money which scares me
yep that's a great point it scares me when you look at no no no i love you it's it scares me
because it's not that we're stupid or you're stupid or anybody's stupid or we didn't do the
wrong right or wrong thing it's just that anybody you just heard him the globetrotter you would
think they would never do that and they would they shammed him all day and it's freaking that's insane
I would be I would be horrible. I would be like calling him right now being like yeah, where'd you get that? All right, I'm bad
So when you like your time of being a lawyer there when you
Trademark the one thing that I learned from my lawyer
So we are fully trademarked where where every every
legal thing that you can imagine has been done from x inc our logoing the platosaurus project
but if you look at the logo of the platosaurus project because the platosaurus if you were to
take pluck all the feathers out of a duck it would look very similar so we actually had to trademark
everything as a duck as well just to make sure that somebody didn't be like oh well this is a
duck you're a dinosaur so that was one thing i learned that if you go to trademark say i have
a beaver project well my beaver project better be trademarked as a chipmunk, a groundhog, anything that has buck teeth and a furry face.
Because at the end of the day, you can actually do that.
Like, we'll look at Bordet Yacht Club, go back to them for a second, and think about how many monkey projects came out after Bordet Yacht Club.
So it's like...
That's crazy that you said that.
That's why I was worried about you.
You're not going to let them take your art
and put it on
something else, right?
You already have all that, so I wouldn't
allow them
to take what they got
from you and just put it on a shirt.
You see what I'm saying, X-Ink?
That's the only thing that scared me.
You're perfect
your work is perfect i wouldn't want them to use your art and put it on just a regular old
smooth t-shirt they're not allowed to do that right
so you know they are allowed to do that but i wanted it that way for a reason was i would rather my art be out there everywhere like
if i ran into somebody that had one of my characters like so my character so obviously
we're all the same age we're all older so i won the author conference with robert munch so my
character i drew when i was 10 years old in tor Ontario and got to meet Robert Munch it was Dave
and friends and when I was into buying NFTs and I was uh building the brand I said now I need to
come up with a roadmap so I drew up all these characters and everything like that and my
daughter said why don't you use Daveave like you created dave so long
ago there's a full backstory on who dave is why don't you do dave and that's that's now dave is
the platosaurus project lead character and i would like to see him everywhere i would like to see the
platosaurus project be a household name like Bored A Yacht Club.
And more importantly, I want X Inc. to be everyone's number one choice of clothing when you're...
If you need any help, let me know.
Definitely, because that's what I do.
I do that.
And yeah, I think that's really cool.
And the Bored Apes are awesome.
I love them.
But yeah, if you need any help with that like
anything I do a little bit of everything so
Advertising I do videos short films, you know things like that
So I think having a short film of the platypus thing would be really I'm a huge if you can't tell
octopus and
squid fan I like ocean things so i think the platypus
that's really freaking cool
and we are licensed with um the board at yacht club um i have their licensing as well so we'll
be doing some uh street wear with that as as do you have any
you could go on arena and start your own token have you thought about that
i think you should oh that's so funny i think so my thing right now is so this is this is so i
haven't chosen where to drop my project.
Now I did hear Aaron say he was on the board there.
And I thought of going with Ape Chain.
I've looked at Stax.
I looked at Ethereum.
I looked at Solana.
My problem right now that I have is trust.
And when you see a project that was on Ethereum, goes to Kronos goes to solana and now jumping over to another chain i'm like they've never created a roadmap they've never done anything
and i feel that chains need to clamp down on who they let on there because we need to build a chain that is right trust just like in school so you
would yeah so you as a builder want to build on a chain that everyone's going to go i won't touch
solana at all like i won't even touch it there's so many rug projects out there i'm like oh my god
i'm like oh just got rugged again i'm like wow and that's where i'm looking right
now at like what chain do i go with because i'm seeing the same people just drop a new project
on a different chain but never never even completed the roadmap from the very first chain for you yeah
and that's why arena you you it's on the avaxX, like the AVAX chain. Like, I have my own token.
I did it for my son.
He's autistic, and he wants to be a pilot.
That's only $1.34, market cap.
I mean, and that doesn't bother me because I did it for him.
Somebody could throw a million dollars in there, and bam, you see what I'm saying?
So, it was so easy and inexpensive to make.
Therefore, I'm'm gonna be the jelly
token forever unless I sell out and I'm not gonna do that that's what the arena
does they're not gonna make you go through every chain like it didn't work
on this chain or didn't work on this chain that's why I like avalanche I like
a back because when you get to the arena you also get tipped in that coin like they can tip you in
jelly I'm the jellyfish token but and it's like yeah it's a dollar 34 cent market cap and people
will laugh at that but if I became a millionaire and I put a million dollars in it bam look at it
and I don't rug it you see what I'm saying so and it's a watch it's like almost to nothing to
start it on the arena and it is the avalanche it's a back so I think that's a
I don't like Solana I don't like aetherium I'm a huge aetherium non fan
I don't like aetherium at all like I think that they really I think their
reason that projects rug because you have to pay
the gas fees and then it changes within one minute if you don't like if you're trying to move five
dollars they want to charge you fifty dollars to move five dollars that i don't like ethereum and
solana is not it's not a bad thing but like you said it's not going anywhere you know and I think a Vax
Avalanche I think it's got something I think it's got something going on
because everybody's creating a token whether it make it or not it's still
there you know what I mean that's what I'm teaching my son I'm still there I'm
a token so I think I think you have really good things going on I think it's
really cool.
What you're talking about your son there, my niece is the same.
So when I was going through fabrics, she has a sensitivity to fabrics that I actually did the tri-blend fabric so it had the stretch it could hold its shape
it could be washed a million times trust me I've tested it and and uh she loves it and it was I was
yeah it was the thing of going looking for what what is best for them so we literally
we I literally looked at every avenue to make this as
perfect as i could get it and then when you look at community building i'm looking at i don't know
everything so when somebody else comes up like toto actually has his own t-shirt it's called the to
tuesday and he's he's i'm like i'm a huge fan of him. And, and when I was talking to him about, Hey, what can we do?
How could I do this?
He says, Oh, I have this idea.
So then we take that idea.
Bam.
Now Tio is part of the.
See, and that's cool.
Do you have your own store?
Cause I would love to look at it.
I send me the link.
Follow me.
I want to see your stuff.
Cause I'm going through that much process to get the right thing is so cool to me.
It was a three-year journey.
But worth it, right?
So I'm going to just go over to pads.
And it looks like we have Metaides and then we're gonna have to
wrap it up so I don't want to cut it short but I did want to make this a
series on Monday nights so I I would love for everyone in the space that came
tonight in the speakers I think everyone has certainly contributed a lot of
knowledge and experience.
So I appreciate all of you guys.
And I would welcome you back next week to continue the conversation for sure.
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you a lot, Roswell.
I was just going to say, like, from a building point of view,
I think Ethereum is always going to be quite expensive.
I think realistically, if you're going to start a project now,
like if I was going to do it, it'd be Solana or Ape Chain.
And I just think that both have got quite a bit of a bad rep
just because of the stuff that's not come out.
Like it's not necessarily, you know what I mean?
Like it's just meme coins so far and stuff but no one's really building on there until now it's just
cheaper and it's just in terms of like if you want to build a dap out that you can change nfts around
or you can like do whatever you want to do like in of gas fees, it's always going to be cheaper for that aspect.
So I don't know.
It's worth looking into,
like I think just keep your minds open and stuff.
But yeah,
like honestly to build on Ethereum now would be quite,
quite a lot of an investment,
I think.
And yeah,
you're all legends.
So this has been a really good chat.
I've followed everyone.
I'm going to follow everyone that's been speaking anyway.
And anyone in the audience, just shout out to you.
I really appreciate you coming up.
That, you know, that is the one thing I wanted to ask everyone who did come tonight.
We don't get paid.
We just come because we want to get paid. We just come because
we want to share knowledge. We enjoy the conversation. So we recorded the space for
others that might be interested if you just share it out at some point and let's keep it going. So
people that, you know, may not have thought about it, maybe they have, can gain some knowledge from it.
I think we have MetaRides.
Rosemary, how are you?
Doing well. How are you?
I'm good. As you probably know more than most, Uncle Elon does not like me tonight,
but I was able to grab a mic after a reset and here I am. So just wanted to jump up and say
hello. Sorry, I missed your space tonight.
I will say this. One of my favorite Twitter personalities, Aaron, is in the room. I used to,
Twitter spaces is my background noise in many cases. And Aaron used to come in this evil space
often. And it was one of my go-tos for background noise
while I was working.
So if Aaron, if you can hear me,
I still need a tour of your metaverse.
And ultimately, I hope all is well.
Rose, again, I'm sorry that I'm coming up late,
but a couple of calls tonight
and getting booted by Elon quite a few times
has resulted in me joining you now and not earlier.
So appreciate you guys.
It was a very cool space.
I loved a lot of the stuff that Sid was dropping earlier about IP.
I think it's super important.
I don't want to get through the whole thing now,
but maybe we address it next week.
But I think it's important with all of this that's on the table right now
for each of us, if we own something that we think is super cool,
there's a good chance that somebody else probably thinks so as well
and build something around it.
Don't be afraid to do that.
So especially with POD stuff and all of that,
we've got a lot at our fingertips to build out a brand
in a brand new way in today's world.
So, Rose, thank you.
Arnold, thank you.
Voice, if you're still listening, thank you.
Good space tonight, and I appreciate you all.
Elon doesn't like him either.
He's got boobin.
I don't think he likes anybody.
I think he has a problem with somebody every day.
Yeah, so I think it's time to wrap it up.
But we are going to do the space next Monday at 10.
Same time, I'll put out a space.
I would love for you guys to come back, continue on the conversation.
I want to thank, there's a lot of people in here
but I want to thank everybody who came out
and I'm going to give
the speakers one last
thought before we close up
tonight
you were awesome
I have to say you're awesome Rosemary
I love this space
you're really cool
and you have like a lot of knowledge in this room it's it's odd to have someone new to have a space and have this many
people and I think you this is awesome definitely and definitely every week would be great
yeah we we you know um I'd actually do spaces every week twice a week, but we switched it up a little bit because in the past we've done these randomly, but something we're kind of passionate about.
So we wanted to bring it to a weekly space for a while and see the interest.
And it looks like there's some interest.
So I'm certainly happy to keep it going.
Yeah, definitely. I was going to say thanks a. Yeah, definitely.
I was going to say thanks a lot, Rosemary.
You're amazing as always.
This has been an amazing space and we're just going to continue it.
You guys will be having our space tomorrow where we talk about a lot of stuff.
Me, Voice of Reason, and a lot of people in this room.
We have our spaces
tomorrow at 6 p.m. Pacific Standard Time. And then I know Sid has his space on Wednesday,
and then we have another space. So we have spaces throughout the week, so you guys can
definitely follow us and join us and continue different types of conversations.
types of conversations. Yeah, definitely. So I'm going to go to Mario. Thank you for coming. That
means a lot to us. Do you have any last words you want to share in the space? Yeah, absolutely.
Really exciting to hear what you guys are talking about. A lot of really interesting ideas and NIP
talk in here that, you know, it was kind of surprising
to see that so many people in this space are entrepreneurs and building their own things and
successful in their own way. And I'm really excited to see what you guys build. And if
you're not part of what Arnold and Voice are building, you know, you can use their platform.
Arnold, you can replug it again before we hop off.
Once that's all built out to get yourself straight with Web3
and making sure that your IP is safe.
And just lots of really cool stuff happening here.
And Sid, thanks for facilitating a lot of the collaboration
and ideas that are happening within the group here as well.
Because you're like the linchpin of ideas and the master of trademarking and copywriting,
as everyone heard.
And as I've gotten to know Sid a little bit more, the man knows a lot, right?
He's been around the block.
He's done and been there and done that.
And so he's a great asset.
And I'm lucky to be able to call him a friend.
So appreciate all that, guys.
And you guys have it going.
Yeah, thank you so much for coming by tonight.
And I'm sure we'll see you in the next space.
Brump, did you have any last words?
Just basically to say what I said earlier,
that I really appreciate the space and the people I was able to listen and learn from.
And I look forward to learning more and moving forward with some of the other projects that I have going.
And then maybe being able to contribute, you know, like, you know, as I as I learn, you know, and progress, I look forward to contributing to some of the conversations further, you know,
and, and getting answers, but maybe also at the same time,
other people can get answers, you know,
just by listening and, and hearing the questions that I have be answered,
or maybe contribute to somebody else and answer a question. So thank you.
Yeah, definitely.
It's a space that if people have questions about something, that's the best time to ask, right?
We have all this great knowledge in the space.
So I definitely encourage that.
Thank you for coming.
X-Inc, right?
X-Inc.
I love that you came up and shared what your vision and your dreams are and what you've actually done.
So thank you for coming by.
Thank you for having me. I really appreciate the conversation.
And like you said, that getting the knowledge from,
from others in the industry on utilizing IP rights and building brands is,
it's always a good space.
Thank you. I hope to see you next week.
Aaron, did you have any
last words?
You mean like for the space
or just for my entire life?
No, no, just for the space, please.
Oh, good, good. I wasn't prepared
for an end-of-life statement.
No, thanks for having me up on stage.
Great space, and I hope to catch you all again.
And yeah, that's it. Thanks for having me up on stage. Great space. And I hope to catch you all again. And yeah, that's it. Thanks for having me.
I appreciate you coming and sharing with us tonight as well. So much great conversation.
Dreams. Do you have any last words?
Do you have any last words?
Oh, no.
Just thank you to be in this space.
Yeah, there's a lot of really intelligent people in here
really pushing the narrative of, like,
what crypto can do for society and culture.
So just, yeah, just thankful that I'm able to even find spaces like this anymore.
Yeah.
I'm glad that you came.
I look forward to seeing you in the next spaces and all the creative things that you do.
And Pads, did you have any last words?
Yeah, only that I've really enjoyed this.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to, did you say you do this weekly?
I'll tune in again for sure
but everyone here is really cool
and I just hope you all
have a good night and that's all
well thank you for coming and sharing
as well I look forward to seeing you
in future spaces
definitely we're going to have one next week
so I'm just going to go to
Sid and
then I'm going to wrap it up with Arnold.
It's been a fun space for me, for sure.
Sid, are you still there?
He's stuck in the elevator.
Rosemary, I'll take care of Sid.
Yes, sir.
That's funny.
Yeah, he's probably in the building somewhere, not with.
So we'll go over to you, Arnold.
And if he comes back, we'll go to him.
But if not, we'll just we'll just get ready to wrap it up and go ahead.
Yeah. Awesome. Again, thank you guys for coming.
It's been a beautiful space.
Shout out again to Sid, Rose Marie,
and definitely voice down there and everybody that just popped up here.
The partnership that we're, that voices are,
are launching Lockbox Z and, and, and.
Partnership with Sid. It's just going to be an amazing thing i think and
having these discussion around web 3 and ip rights especially in this age is real important so uh
appreciate you rosemary for having us up uh we didn't get a chance to talk about the coffee
right we haven't talked about the coffee brand, but we'll do that next Monday.
Are you able to come next Monday, Arnold?
Yeah, no, I'll come next Monday.
Yeah, definitely. Nothing like putting you on the spot.
Yeah, no, I'll come.
This has been an amazing, amazing conversation.
Yeah, that's awesome.
I really appreciate you, Arnold and Sid and all of the speakers who came up,
voice for helping me put
this together. He's always riding with me on Mondays, even when we don't do IP rights. So
I appreciate you so much. Sid, thank you for all your support. And everyone, I think it's been a great space I glad we all got together and got
to share some things we had a lot of different communities together that's
one of my favorite things about holding spaces is meeting different communities
and like I said I'm not doing this for any reason other than to get some
knowledge share some knowledge and meet some new people.
So if you guys could just share out the space, it's recorded so other people might be able to have the chance to learn that weren't here.
So with that, I'm going to say good night, and I'll see you guys maybe in Arnold's space
tomorrow.
Thanks, Rosemary.
Thank you so much. Have a great night, guys. Thank you. space tomorrow. Thanks, Rosemary.
Thank you so much.
Have a great night, guys.
