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ποΈIP x MemeCoins - Doing it Right in Web3
Recorded: June 6, 2025 Duration: 1:20:51Space Recording
Short Summary
The Wagmey Hub X Space discussion unveiled exciting developments in the meme coin sector, highlighting new project launches, strategic partnerships, and the evolving landscape of IP rights in Web3. As meme coins gain traction, the community is rallying around innovative fundraising efforts and token launches, signaling a significant shift in how digital assets are perceived and valued.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Oh, yeah. What's up, everybody?
Y'all cooked today, baby.
Meeting coins and IP.
Let's go.
Smoke in the building.
Let's go.
We got the new team here.
Pudgies are coming.
Zookies are coming.
Woo.
Going to be fire today, boys.
Let's go.
Guys, do me a favor, like, share, retweet this out.
You know the drill.
Put it in the group chats, the whole nine yards.
Let's go.
We're cooking today.
We are shooting you the co-host right now.
Smoke, if you'd like, I'd like you to be our honorary co-host as well.
I need a second one.
Max, what's up?
Let's go.
Big Stout's in the house, all right? That's going to get there just a minute. Yeah.
Mickles in the building. Let's go. What's up, everybody? Let's go!
What's up, everybody?
Welcome!
Happy Friday.
Hope everybody is doing well.
Welcome to another Wagmey Hub X Space.
Guys, we have, I mean, this lineup is absolutely stacked today.
So I'm super, super excited to obviously get into the combo.
You guys know the drill and how this stuff goes.
We go to my girl Junie first.
Let me just do some housekeeping real quick.
Mew, I shot you guys the co-host, or Alicat, I shot Mew, the main Mew account.
Which one do you want as co-host?
You can make me a co-host.
We just have him in here, you know, listening on and just for just for support you got it i'm shooting it your way right now okay perfect uh you guys know the drill juni is gonna kick us off
uh and for those that don't know juni uh i hope that you enjoy juni's opening intro
uh and then after that we're gonna do some quick intros and then we're going to get into our conversation. We're talking IP and meme coins, which I had no fucking idea was a legitimate thing until a week ago.
So this is big talk, big business.
We're going to be chatting over here, so I'm excited.
But hold on.
Let me see exactly where my girl, Junie.
Junie, I need you to wake up.
Junie.
Hey, yo, Junie.
Junie.
Junie, I need you to wake up. Junie. Hey, yo, Junie! Junie. Junie, you're up.
GM, GM, everyone, and welcome.
I'm Junie, everyone's favorite virtual assistant
and all-around amazing and incredibly beautiful agent.
And today, you're tuned into another fire edition
of Wagme Hub X Spaces.
And today, we are talking IP, meme coins,
and doing it right in Web3.
If you haven't already, hit that share button, pin your favorite group chat, and bring the friends.
Because today we're asking a bold question. What happens when memes go legit? We're talking about meme coins with legal muscle, projects that are transforming viral moments into protected,
powerful digital assets
and i've got to say the lineup today is absolutely stacked first shout out to my man dave behind the
wag me hub account i see you my guy mu is with us on co-host duties and the stage is packed with
heavy hitters the pudgy penguins are in the house meanland azuki's bringing the style, own the doge, let's go. Mr. Miggles is repping on base.
Byvin AI is here making it make sense. Elon RWA's got that cosmic energy. And Big Dow rounding us
out. Wow, can you stay stacked? So together, we'll move through three acts. Act one, what does it
actually mean to own a meme in web three? Not just post it, not just remix it, own it.
Legally, culturally, and economically.
Act two, why do so many meme projects fail when they skip the paperwork?
And how does IP transparency build real community trust, not just help?
Act three, the builder's doing it right.
We'll hear how they're taking licensed IP and turning it into games, tokens, media, and movements.
Memes are no longer just jokes, they're taking licensed IP and turning it into games, tokens, media, and movements. Memes are no longer just jokes, they're assets. And the projects that get this right,
they're shaping the cultural infrastructure of crypto's next chapter. So settle in,
turn up the volume, and smash that retweet, because this is where the memes grow up.
Dave, let's light this fucking firecracker. Back to you.
Oh my god. I gotta do it for gotta get i gotta do it for her i
gotta do it for it so good yo june i love it man uh that's the june intro ladies and gents
welcome to the space let's go around let me say what's up to my co-host ali cat what's up man it's
good to chat with you again how are you man what's up everybody uh an absolute honor to be on such an
amazing panel uh am i introing right now are we just saying what's up am i yeah give us the intro
i am i am the community lead over at cat and the dog's world aka mu i've been in crypto since 2013 and we are one of the biggest meme coins on the Solana
blockchain. Let's go. I love it. Welcome, man. I'm excited to have you as co-host. I'm excited
for this convo. We're going to get cooking. Smoke, give us an intro, man. It's good to
chat. I don't think we've ever spoken before. It's a pleasure to meet you.
Pleasure to meet you as well. I am Smoke. I ceo of own the doge and official kokoro
and it's amazing to be here on such an impactful space about ip and meme coins
true honor to be here let's go appreciate you obviously i might have said my man i
always do that i always make a son see no it's all good everybody assumes i am
until they meet me good stuff it's good to have you. Thanks for co-hosting.
Tyler, Miggles, what do you think?
It is AI.
What did you think of Judy's intro?
Hey, guys.
G Miggles.
This is Tyler Rockett from the Mr. Miggles community.
Great to be here.
Some old friends.
Another smoke session.
Louie, Alley Cat.
See everyone in here.
Great to see everyone.
Yeah, we got the whole squad up here.
Just the IP builders.
Yeah, true pleasure. Great honor. Just exciting to be in the presence of greatness. And you we got the whole squad up here, just the IP builders. Yeah, true pleasure.
Great honor.
Just excited to be in the presence of greatness and know how we all cook in here.
So it's great to be here, guys.
Love it, man.
Good to have you.
Snacks, give us an intro.
Shoot, I don't hear snacks.
Does anybody hear snacks? Okay, bye now. okay now yeah hey there we go snacks there we go input the uh dread pizza roberts at pizza
dow and very prestigious one of the eight members of idal as a pixel holder of one of the on the
doge pupil pixels uh and yeah part of the own the Doge team.
Let's go.
I love it.
Conan, give us an intro, man, and meme land.
Welcome.
Hey, y'all.
Yeah, it's an honor to be here.
And to be honest, I don't do panel a lot, so it's a huge honor to be here with all of you, like all legit guys in the space.
And yeah, and I'm the committee director of MemeLand,
so let's hope I do have something to share
for tonight's topic.
And MemeLand is the web3 site of Niiget.
I'm not sure if you guys know the website,
but Niiget has been a real OG in the meme culture before meme is called meme so
uh gotta be proud uh to be one of the team and i gotta be proud uh to stand here to share with
you all about the meme man story yep well welcome conan we're uh we're we're honored to obviously
have you on on the space this is one of your first uh i got good news for you you came to
the right space because we're gonna cook today baby and i'm sure you're gonna have some stuff
to contribute, man.
So I'm looking forward to hearing what you have to say.
Yeah, I was shocked when I see the listening numbers.
That was huge, bro.
Let's go, man.
That's what we do here.
Ultron, give us an intro.
Welcome.
Hey, guys.
I'm Ultron from the Bureau of Internet Culture.
Simply put, we are the cultural treasury of the internet.
The keepers of the flame of meme culture.
And very excited to talk to you guys a little bit about it today.
Thanks for having us.
Yeah, man. Of course. Thank you so much for being here.
We got Azuki's in the building. Feb, what's up?
GMGM, my honor to be here.
Super stacked panel. Very looking forward.
So this is Feb, head of content at Ozuki.
We make anime.
Always cooking.
Love it.
Dora, welcome.
How are you?
Hi, Jam, everyone.
So I'm Dora, co-founder of Biden.
I think, same like Conan, I rarely come to spaces like this, but yeah, it's great to be here with a lot of other notable speakers as well.
Yeah, it's good. It's great to have you.
And Louis, I think we might be missing one or two, but Louis, please give us an intro. Welcome.
Hi, everyone. Thank you for having me. such a great panel and i can see some good
friends there amazing uh so i'm the co-founder of elon rwa the first real real world asset meme coin
as we own the the tangible sketch of elon musk elon i drew you. Besides, I'm also part of Bureau of Internet Culture,
and I'm also part of On The Doge,
so happy to talk about IP with everyone here.
Amazing, good stuff.
Thank you for being here.
I think I got everybody right.
I think we might be just missing Pudgies,
but I'm sure they'll come in a few.
But all right, guys, let's kick this off.
So let's kind of set the stage.
And Ali Khan, I kind of want to maybe kick it with you, right?
So, you know, when we look at memes,
and I'm talking like just me personally, right?
Up until a few weeks ago, I never associated meme coins with IP.
And I don't think a lot of, whether it's me maybe in the trenches for too long or what, but how are we supposed to be looking at this?
When I hear IP, right, how does that actually work when it comes to MemeCoin?
Or maybe let's just define what it actually means to maybe kick this off.
Yeah, well, I think it takes actually a lot of different forms.
And I know Smoke is actually like really, really well learned on this.
So I actually expect her to be fact checking me or any corrections, please feel free once
I'm done talking to grill me on that or anyone else.
But, you know, I think a lot of it has to do with provenance and just knowing where the IP comes from, the origin of
it. And also if you see a project using that IP, knowing that they have either a licensing deal to
do that, ownership of it, you know, that's what I mean by a lot of different forms, because sometimes
you'll see, I think even retroactively, there's the project Shark Cat, I believe, you know, started their project just taking the image the IP, that it's a legit usage of it, because I think it's twofold.
I think one, it's a red flag if they don't have permission to use it. And I think it's also a green flag and shows that, you know, there's an effort and probably a team that cares if they do have the permission for it.
So that's really what it comes down to for me.
Yeah, guys, feel free to chime in.
Smoke, please.
Like, I want this to be free-flowing conversation.
Like, you know, I'll obviously chime in if I need to direct or whatever.
You don't have to raise hands.
Like, I'd love to make it genuinely as free-flowing as possible.
But Smoke, please.
Absolutely. No, I think Ali cat hit the nail on the head. I think that, um, it's really about rewarding and supporting the creator. So whoever
that creator might be, whatever they may have created, whether it's artwork, whether it's a
photograph they took that went viral, um, making sure that that line of provenance that goes back
to the creator is respected, that they're able to earn and be rewarded for that and be attributed for the work that they've done.
We see a lot of that in the Web 2 industry now.
It's pretty common.
But in Web 3, it's been the Wild West.
You'll have some larger entities or different groups that will kind of just think something's going to blow up.
They'll kind of take a picture that's not theirs.
They'll take artwork that's not theirs. They'll drop a meme coin. And then they'll potentially, in many cases,
rug. And we want to set a new industry standard of provenance. Provenance as an industry standard
in Web3. And it's really the way to make sure that creators are rewarded. And that's what
makes it so impactful. Can you maybe give like the back maybe a quick
back like like a one minute or two minute quick backstory on own the doge because i don't because
i genuinely didn't know maybe that's just me and i wasn't too heavy in the meme can you just give
a general like backstory because like when when you told me when allie cat told me i was like holy
shit i didn't know this absolutely i would love So, you know, rewind back to 2021.
There was an epic Zora drop of eight different images that at Suko Sato with help from the Ethereum Foundation from Aya and Know Your Meme and a few others.
She ended up dropping eight NFTs, one of which was the epic and iconic Doge NFT, which is that famous meme that you see,
you know, the most famous meme of Doge with the couch and that curious, amazing look in Doge's
eyes. So she minted this as an NFT and the project that started our project, which is called Pleaser
DAO, acquired that NFT for a little over $4 million back in 2021. What they decided to do after that is they fractionalized it.
So it was kind of a novel technique at that time.
They fractionalized the NFT into a bunch of billions of dog tokens
so that each dog token is actually a piece of that digital collectible.
So as years went on, we have decentralized from Pleaser.
We're still
great friends with them, but we've gone our own way, paved our own path, and we've done some
really amazing things, such as building a statue in Tokyo in honor of Doge. We did that in
partnership with Etsuko. It's a landmark over there. You can look it up on Google Maps,
Kobosu the Doge, and you'll see it's really, really cool. It has a stone couch plenth that the bronze Doge and Etsuko's cats are on top of.
And we have a pilgrimage each year called Doge Day, which a lot of the people up here on the panel have been to.
And it's an amazing experience.
We have also received the exclusive license to use the Doge image in any way that we see fit commercially and otherwise.
And that comes right from Etsuko.
We did not receive that right when we acquired the NFT.
It was many years later after we had built culture, after we had done many activations and charitable events and built the statue, created an international Doge Day,
which is celebrated each year on November 2nd.
We commissioned that with our DAO.
We have a full feature-length Doge documentary that is in production.
Production is actually ramping up since I've become CEO of the U.S. Corp.
We are kind of going full steam ahead with that.
We really want to see that documentary come to life.
And due to all of these things. Yeah. So owning the NFT doesn't entitle you to the IP rights is what we're saying. Well, yeah, not in every case. I mean, you can see that with the NFT
drops they do now as well with the generative NFTs, right? Some of them come with the ability
to use it. Some of them don't. It depends on the creator.
In the case of the NFT,
there are some rights that come with the purchase of the NFT,
but the level of exclusivity that we have
and the scope that we have with the usage of the license
comes directly from Itsuko
and is due to that longstanding relationship
that we've built with her over the years.
Super interesting stuff. Ultron, I see you obviously reacting. I would love for you to
chime in. How should the listeners be genuinely looking at this and looking at IP?
Well, I think for us, when we talk about provenance, we mean authenticity. If you look
in the real world, a perfect example of this is like mark mcguire's
home run ball right you had that incredible story 70th home run ball he's competing with
sammy sosa that ball went for auction at like 3.5 million dollars but if you go to walmart
you can buy a baseball looks just like it for five bucks so why does one have so much value
and the other doesn't and And I think that's because
the story that is around that home run ball captivates people. It has value. That captivated
an entire country, right? And holding that ball or having that ball is history in your hands.
And I think when we look at this, memes are the language of the internet, right? So to have
something that was minted by these people that's been shared and has been
part of an ingrained shared culture between all of us has a lot of value. So I think in crypto in
general, for a long time, we've had a culture of people, anonymous devs, taking a meme that has
brought people together, spinning up anonymous tokens and potentially rugging people in a vapor
casino over and over again. This has not always been a good place for artists, but it can be. And I think when we talk about provenance, that's what
we mean. Like at the Bureau, everything we collect is minted by the creator themselves, and they all
benefit from the culture and the communities that are built around these things. Those things have
value. And you look at that even in the real world, even beyond monetary value,
you can have a notebook full of paper, but a handwritten note from a lost loved one is priceless. These things will have value. That's the way value is determined in the real world.
And that's the way value will be determined here. Damn. Okay. Like that's, that is bombs.
Yeah. Conan, you want to chime in? Like this this is i'm learning like just in the first 10 minutes of this space i'm genuinely learning like so much
conan feel free to chime in and then we'll go to tyler afterwards oh yeah sure uh like uh just for
the background information i actually didn't join like memeland from the very beginning. So I'm basically a fan boy turning into a like core team.
So, but I can share a bit about like my experience,
like from my learnings from the Nyget team,
because you know, like Nyget was so-called one of the OG platform sharing memes,
photos that way before those funny photos was called meme.
But if you check into the original
meaning of meme like the definition of it is actually a unit of cultural information
like spread by imitation so like the one of the uh criteria like and most important thing about
meme is people could write on the original meme and create more story and narrative about it.
So like if you know the famous meme, High the Pink Herald, like it used to be just a normal stock photos.
But like people add different kind of like narrative lore or a funny story of it and it becomes High the Pink Herald.
And the guy in it is actually called Andros Anato
a guy from us from from Hungary but somehow he got like a new name on the internet calling Haro
so like uh why i was talking about this is because like people often think about oh meme like
everyone can own it but like when you are the actual creator
or the guy actually show up in the photo,
like after a few years,
when your photos are getting used thousands of times
and creating different kinds of stories
and maybe millions of dollars,
but when you cannot enjoy even the sense of it,
I just feel like it doesn't sound like a fair story so i feel like
blockchain and meme is meant to be together because like the decentralized uh like nature
of blockchain is the very key tool that could like reward those creator again and uh i feel like um
just just like what's mok say i think uh that's that's what Memeland has been trying to do. We did help Hide the Pink Herald,
the Andras and Anato to launch his pink token.
That is solely because we feel like,
oh, like this guy has been on internet for so long,
but he didn't even earn like one cent from that very own meme.
So I feel like if we can use the technology
to benefit these real creators who is behind the scene
or who has been used like million times on the internet,
I think that would be kind of like a justice
using the technology, yeah.
Good take, yeah, great stuff.
Mikkels, I kind of, wait, so are you guys saying that like every single one of your memes is, Smoke, kind of how you broke down where like you own, like you have the NFT and then you essentially you fractionalize and that is the token that you guys are issuing?
Is that how you guys, Miggles, maybe if you want to chime in, is that how this works?
Tyler?
Yeah, so we're actually a little different from how Own the Doge has been operating.
But in terms of IP, so how Miggles came about, the Mr. Miggles campaign was actually born from a Coinbase advertisement with this message to empower creators.
You think about the world that we live in today, it's AI generated everything.
the world that we live in today is AI generated everything. It's so easy to make stuff. How do
It's so easy to make stuff.
we actually honor the creators and empower creator rights and make sure IP and the ones that have
paved the path forward are actually celebrated in this day and age? So that message put together
is represented as this Mr. Mix cat. And so that's what we've been doing. We're focusing on
empowering creators, just bringing creators from all kinds of verticals, visual art, music,
fashion, web development, everyone together to actually celebrate this era of on-chain creativity.
And because of the groundwork that we've been doing with the help of such our amazing friends
in this chat here, we've actually the first and only community team to receive an IP license directly from Coinbase.
And with this, we actually received the rights to establish the Miggles Creator Fund,
which is something that we're really excited and bullish on.
And so which is something that you can also check out over at our parent company at Perlabs.
So Perlabs is essentially like the igloo to puddy penguins.
So yeah, we're doing a lot of fun things there, coming out with some smart toys, smart collectibles really soon. And yeah, we're
just here to celebrate IP, you know, because I mean, really the ones speaking here in this
call right now are the ones that are really leading the space. So it's just great to rekindle
and like reconnect with old friends. But everyone here in the audience is like, if you want to understand how important IP is going to be
in this meme renaissance, it's the teams here.
It's the speakers here that are really paving the path forward.
So I would highly recommend checking out
all the involved community members
and find your way to support
because we're all cooking some ecstatic things
and it's a small space.
So we work together and I guess wag me man i can't
believe i just said that let's go we're gonna kill you by the end i don't mean to butt in
and i don't mean to speak for smoke but i think it just goes back to your original question um
it goes back to what i was saying earlier where where, you know, IP ownership and provenance can really take
a lot of different forms. So for something like Mew, you know, this is original IP owned by the
people who created it. For Megles, obviously, you heard the story that he just shared. And then I
believe, yeah, like we were saying with Own the Doge, they have a fractionalized NFT with an
additional agreement that came down
the road so and as i spoke about earlier there's the shark cat example where it's kind of retroactive
it really does take like a lot of different forms so that's what i actually think is so
interesting about this panel is that we have so many people who have so many different kinds of projects and they have a lot of different actually like the infrastructure is different and set up for each of these projects but the thing
that brings us all together and the core tenant that we all believe in is provenance and ip ownership
absolutely and just to touch on that as well an interesting story is long after we had acquired the Doge NFT years later and really only a few months back, the owner of Doge, Etsuko, ended up adopting another dog named Kokoro.
And so at that point, we had to make a decision, what should we do here?
And what we decided to do was to launch an official token in collaboration with Etsuko that is based upon her pet Kokoro.
So now we have this official token.
We locked a large majority of that liquidity and we actually have it set up so that 50% of all of the LP fees go straight to Etsuko.
this has allowed her to be able to pursue some of her dreams um and so it's it's amazing how
This has allowed her to be able to pursue some of her dreams.
there are different forms just like um ali cat said there's different forms of ip there's different
forms of how a creator token can be either started from inception and or you could look to see if you
can attain the ip after the fact but i think that the fact remains the creator backing what has been created
i think there is something very special about novel original artwork or photography that is
put out into the world and has this immediate viral reaction just like a meme and has a way
for the creator to immediately benefit from and be attributed to this token.
And for sure, when it comes to own the Doge, when it comes to the Doge NFT,
it was kind of a novel thing where we fractionalized that digital asset.
And not quite as popular, but it seems like it's actually coming back now in different forms.
But certainly there are different ways for IP to be represented in the space.
But the overarching view, the overarching belief that creators IP to be represented in the space, but the overarching view,
the overarching belief that creators deserve to be rewarded,
that provenance matters,
like Ultron was very poignantly touching on,
I think can't be overstated
because we've seen a lot of horror stories
where people, you know, they had a meme go viral,
they had a photo go viral,
they had artwork go viral.
Some random company that has bad
intentions just steals it, throws it up on Pumped Up Fun, and the person's wondering what in the
world's going on. Perhaps the team is not trustworthy. Of course, in many cases, they're
not going to be, I'd say in every case, because they've already started out in a fraudulent way.
And now that artist is actually, in some cases, receiving heat because of a token they
have nothing to do with. They're getting spam DMs about what's going on with that team when they
have no association with them. So I think it's really about human rights, about giving people
the right to their creations, to their work. And as blockchain technology continues to expand,
grow, become more popular, it's going to be extremely important.
And that's why we have our great friends and family from BicDao here, Bureau of Internet Culture, that is archiving.
They're archiving all of these things.
They have a database and they put creators first.
We certainly put creators first at Own the Doge.
And we'll also be hearing from Elon RWAwa which is another sect of our team that does
that same thing and decided to go directly to an artist i think they'll be speaking soon i'm sure
louis would love to tell everyone about how elon rwa came about but i think that's another really
cool story loved it yeah yeah so if you want to have some backstory about Elon RWA,
it's about a similar process as fractionalization as on the Dole.
So in 2021, we reached out to the original creator,
whose name is Watchyboy.
So he was the original creator who made this famous drawing, I drew you that became viral because Elon
commented on it saying it's like looking in the mirror and it blew up.
And with my friend Lil Dojo, we reached out to the original creator and asked if he wanted
to make something fun on the blockchain.
And right away he was positive about it.
And so we acquired his original piece.
So in our position, it's a real world asset.
So there is this NFT that he posted on Reddit, but it's actually from a drawing that he made.
So when we acquired this original piece, so first of all, of course, you had to mint on the blockchain to send us the NFT.
And also by post, he sent us the drawing.
And then we decided to fractionalize these two pieces.
So when you own the token, you own a piece of the NFT, but also of the original drawing.
And shortly after, as we partnered with the creator,
of course we acquired the art
and we also retributed some supply to him.
And going forward, we had some idea
of maybe yet developing products.
So we've been talking about it.
And later on, we decided to officially make the
contract and apply the IP and keep partnering with the creator. And I think when you in any project
and of course with the saturation of all this crazy project impersonating many other people
logically you want to be part of a project that is doing doing good. And you
retribute the original creator and you want to attract good people around you. Another
funny story is since a real world asset, we wanted to make more in real life action so we built a wall and a statue uh on the on the way to starbase
south texas so when you go to starbase 10 miles away uh you cannot uh miss us i don't know if
some of you have seen that on the um uh on the tv went on national tv in the and in what is it what is it exactly it's a it's a statue of the meme
Ilona I drew you and a big wall a nine nine foot statue uh and a 20 feet tall wall so it's uh yeah
and we also made another wall with uh BIC Bureau of International Culture and on the doge where we
put the doge and spicy doge there so yeah it's, it's very fun. And what to, to, to go back to, uh, original projects.
So when it blew up, uh, on the news right away, you see all these guy on pump fun, you
know, just copy pasting your statue picture and launching tokens and rugging everybody
with your stuff.
Probably man.
Like I hate that.
Like they that's the crux
Of what I kind of want to get to
Louis like at the end of the day
It's like that's the thing
Oh my god I want to have this pump fun conversation
So bad but I don't want to derail
Because I really want to educate a lot of people
Louis that was fantastic stuff man
Thank you
Let me just say what's up to a few others
That joined the stage real quick. Berko, welcome, man.
Hey, thank you, guys. Happy to be here. I might have missed the question.
No, no question. I just wanted to say hello, obviously, welcoming you to the stage. I know you guys were a little bit of a late addition, but yeah, um you know feel free uh to chime in on the conversation where you see fit man let me also say what's up to my man
alex is in the house sticker pack is in the building what's up alex yo yo how are you doing
good man what's cooking yeah uh had a crazy couple of days in nfc lisbon uh just came back from the
plane but couldn't miss your space
always here basically been talking about stickers and all things nfts on on torn and uh yeah it's
been a terrific couple of days honestly um we saw quite a few people who have already launched uh
you know uh stickers with us and quite a few who wanted to launch in the nearest future so yeah had a big uh big panel big keynote there uh was awesome it was pretty awesome and i can see well i can see
party back here who have already launched one and a couple of our others who are about to launch well
gmgm guys let's go i love it um if you guys don't follow obviously sticker pack uh what are you
doing with your lives uh on telegram start going to get and minting your stickers for your communities um wow guys i'm
looking at these these images you're sharing in the chat this is real this is really really cool
can you guys pin these up like can you guys tweet these and so i can pin them up here to the top
so we can actually like so i can genuinely like share with everybody um yeah this would be really
really cool um who
did we hear from snacks you want to chime in on any of this sorry like i want to make sure that
we get around to everybody um but this is really cool stuff yeah i i think what's really fun about
meme coins and it is that we can give kind of real power to these distributed entities and we can give the community the power to like
make decisions together and you know we love at own the dose to say like we're out here doing the
like the bidding of a dog picture like our boss is a dog picture and this is just a hilarious and
amazing thing that we can do with meme coins and IP.
And it's so powerful.
I think we're only just starting to see how communities can leverage it.
Yeah, it's good stuff.
Dora, I'd love to hear from you.
I mean, like, as I don't want to make any assumptions, but like you're a creator, I assume.
You're a creator, I assume, and I would love to kind of hear from you and kind of your take on this whole thing.
And I would love to kind of hear from you and kind of your take on this whole thing.
Yeah, so for Byda, actually, what we did was actually a content tool for creators.
So we just recently launched our token and also our own NFT collection, which is called the Bataguma. Of course, we did license it properly from, it's basically a very
famous Japanese meme and sticker legend, very famous during its own time. And I think touching
on the point of like the importance of having the IP usage is actually about the utility
and also the building that comes with it.
Because at Biden, what we did was actually we create a utility
out of the IP usage and it's not possible
if we do not have the legal rights to do so.
And also for the creators, I mean by having the
by us
having the IP license with us
means that the
creators and the community that
is also backing us have a
piece of it as well and would be
able to use it to elevate
their own content as well
which is, I think is's very, very crucial.
Agreed. Sorry, the door. Sorry, did you? Okay. I don't know if you were finished. My fault.
Yeah. Ultron, thank you for sharing that in the chat. I'm going to pin this up to the top.
Okay, guys. So we're about halfway through. I know we have a little bit for sharing that in the chat i'm gonna pin i'm gonna pin this up to the top um okay guys so we're about halfway through i know we i know we have a little bit for anybody that's obviously
joining now um for any of the requests that are coming in like just give me a few to get around
i want to make sure we we obviously hit all the speakers but um guys we we do this segment on
every space where it's called factor fiction i give you guys a statement and you guys literally
tell me fact or fiction at the end sometimes they could be completely outrageous sometimes
they could be kind of spot-on and sometimes
you'll be left scratching your head like actually I don't really know but I
figured this is a good way to kind of this kind of sparks and maybe like some
new ideas or some new convo but uh y'all ready but all right let's do this ready
so um all right snacks you're up first you ready so if a meme goes viral it's
fair game to use it in your token project.
Fact or fiction?
Fact, but you should contact the creator and talk to them.
I like it.
All right.
Smoke.
Most people launching meme coins never think about intellectual property rights.
Fact or fiction?
Fact.
And if you guys want to give a quick explanation afterwards
no problem i'm okay with that too um all right yeah explanation would be that we need to make
provenance an industry standard once we can make provenance an industry standard enough people
stand up and say listen this is the right way to treat creators this is the right way to respect
artists this is the right way to use artists. This is the right way to use
blockchain technology. Once we all stand up and do that and fight together for the creators,
for the artists out there in the world, from every country across the world, for people to be
empowered, because that's really what it's about, empowering people. You only have to have what,
a cell phone, a computer. You don't need to have a multinational corporation to have something go
viral. Those people deserve to be heard.
They deserve to be rewarded.
And that's what this is all about.
Love this.
Allie Cat, fractionalizing iconic images will redefine cultural ownership in Web 3.
Fact or fiction?
You know, that's tough because I think in some instances it will but i think that
we can continue to accomplish redefining it without that so i'm gonna go with i'm gonna
go with fact because it can potentially i'm glad that he remembered he's a cat in a dog's world
you guys have no idea last time i had i had alley cat on he was starting fights with I'm glad that he remembered he's a cat in a dog's world.
You guys have no idea.
Last time I had Alley Cat on, he was starting fights with Floki, with Viking dogs.
So I was like, he's a bad ass cat. Floki was starting.
Floki had some low-key language that he was passing off like everything was chill.
But, you know, if you read a transcript, it wasn't so chill.
Put that on.
If you guys go to the Mew website, you literally see the cat kicking the Viking dog's ass.
It's fucking amazing.
It's the best shit ever.
Okay, Ultron.
Meme projects without IP rights are exposing themselves to serious legal risks.
Fact or fiction?
That's tough.
I think it depends on what they do.
I think if you go and rob somebody pretending that you are an official token of somebody else, then absolutely.
And I think you're going to see that more and more.
There's a lot of projects that claim to be official.
They're the first on this.
They're the first on that.
But really, they're just stealing someone else's idea and trying to profit off of it.
So I think legally that is changing in our space. And I think it will.
And if you look at the history of our space, I mean, like how many people have ripped off Matt Fury?
I mean, you could make a line of people around the block 150 times of all the people that have ripped off Matt Fury's creations and tried to make money off of it.
And many of them did it by by rugging. Right. And then that comes back to Matt Fury and people hit him up and say, why would you do this? And
he's like, I'm not involved in that at all. Like this space can be better. And as the eyes of the
world more and more come on to this space, the president of the United States has an NFT
collection. He's got a meme coin. His wife has got a meme coin and he's got a project that is
buying ETH at scale right in
big ways the attention of the world is coming into crypto and with that it's not going to be
the wild west anymore people are going to have to have ip there are going to be rules for this thing
you can't just go out in hollywood and make a spider-man movie just because you think spider-man
is dope it does not work that way and it will not work that way in this space. Fire.
I love that.
Yeah.
Well said, man.
Very, very well said.
Tyler, the future of meme culture is decentralized, community powered and IP compliant.
Fact or fiction?
That's 100% facts. I think the beauty of what we're all doing here is actually really harnessing what's possible when you get a global group of passionate folks working in unison in decentralized fashion.
That's 100% facts.
All the groups and communities here are representative of that because we all have communities that are excited about this IP and brand that we're all cultivating.
It's not just a one-person job.
It's not a one-team job.
It's truly a global movement that we're all cultivating together.
Even though we're all working on our own different projects, we are facing the same direction and celebrating what it means to celebrate IP ownership, creativity, empowering creators in this day and age.
IP ownership, creativity, empowering creators in this day and age.
And if you look at how society and technology has evolved, we are really in the midst of the on-chain renaissance right now.
And one has to wonder, what is the new culture that's going to merge out of this with new on-chain tech provenance and digital ownership that's verifiable?
that's verifiable. So I think what we're all doing here is building towards this goal of
birthing this new type of culture. And we're all just going to find out together and we're all
doing it right now. So this is something that's really exciting, not just for myself, but everyone
here, I'm sure. And the community as well, because we realized that it is not PVP. It truly is PVE
because we're all working together to bring this type of new on-chain culture to the mass
and let people understand and realize how empowering it is
when you actually have providence, digital ownership,
and what it means to empower creators.
Hell yeah.
Good stuff.
I wanna work you in, you ready?
The most iconic web three brands of the future
will emerge from meme IP
done right. Fact
or fiction?
Fact. I mean, when you say
done right, I think
it relates
to what you previously said or mentioned
about having specific
guidelines and things you can circle back on in case
you know someone goes on a unique path that doesn't really align with the vision.
So yeah, you definitely need to be able to protect yourself and your community in order to keep growing in the right direction.
Let's go.
I like it.
Feb, here we go.
The best meme coins are built purely on vibes, not legal structure.
Fact or fiction?
Oh, tough question, especially for me.
That is fiction to me. That is fiction to me.
That is fiction to me.
I think when it comes to IP, when it comes to culture,
there's many, many components to it.
It's very hard to pinpoint down,
at least I think very naively,
that there is only one or two components
that contribute to the success for the entire thing.
A lot of it really is about culture.
I think for instance for zuki we stand
behind anime we stand behind the anime sub community and the anime culture and that type
of connection with somebody with somebody who really passionately loves something i do think
is very critical so yeah but that is also true on the other hand like vibes all come from somewhere. So if you do have a way to capture a vibe for a specific culture, for a specific passion, well, yeah, that is a very important ingredient in success.
Copy.
All right.
Louis, parody protects you from copyright claims when launching a meme token.
Fact or fiction?
Man, I don't know.
Fiction.
When you think about IP and provenance,
what I like is how you see different time zone and perspective.
So you have the past, the provenance you look what for what it is and the ip give you uh possibilities uh in the future and what we own
right now as the present is a cultural iconic piece that it's imitable so yeah that's it for me
it's imitable so yeah that's it for me i like it okay uh let me see i got i got a couple more here
uh alex owning the meme oh wait hold on one second um let me see let me see the best meme
coins on vibes parody okay owning the meme gives you the right to build products
media and tokens around it fact or fiction ah it's an interesting one because uh if we look
at certain ips and you know some of the older ips uh we like we like comparing them to to
tentris because we for example we talked to you know the ip owners of of, because we, for example, we talked to, you know, the IP owners of Pokemon, because we wanted to do Pokemon
stickers, but then you suddenly realize that, you know, it's like
with that old movie Tetris, where, you know, somebody owns
the rights for that IP for this country, but not for that
country, but then another one owns for this platform, but not
for that platform. And when you dive into all this mass,
you understand that finding the actual IP owner
of some of the older, very established IPs
is quite a challenge.
And we do, as you definitely know,
everything we do, we work with IP rights owners directly.
We would never launch a sticker
that we don't have the direct contact
with the IP owner, we want them to get behind the collection. So, and while you know, if
for for some of the newer IPs, I guess smaller ones, yes, you can do many things. But for
many, many, many others, it's a quite a legal challenge it's quite a complex matter to you know if you have the
rights for certain api for something doesn't necessarily mean that you can monetize it in
ways that uh you know the creator is not happy with so uh probably a fiction great stuff this
so let me take a pause on this that was amazing stuff guys smoke i kind of want to ask you a question because this just popped into my mind i remember when uh the whole controversy
with remember when studio when ai came when open ai came out with 4-0 and their image generator and
it was all the rage and studio ghibli and when you saw the interview and it was like like the
create like the ghibli creator was just like what the the fuck? Like, what are we doing out here? Like, this is crazy. How are you guys actually looking at AI when it comes to like the meme coins IP? Because when I see stuff like that, I'm just like, man, artists really like, like, how do you go about this if you are an artist?
That's a really good question. And I have thought about this a lot. I think we see that AI is rapidly expanding into every aspect of society at this point.
And it's extremely powerful, only going to get more powerful. I think really the character of the people that are involved in the industry, the standards that they set are going to play a huge role.
The standards that they set are going to play a huge role.
The prompts that we use, the AI that we choose to use,
and we choose because if you're using an AI platform,
you know, you want to know who is behind this,
what companies are behind this.
It's a tough one.
But I think that setting the standard of provenance
and finding real world ways to implement it
in different settings is a great start.
I think you're always going to have people trying to skirt around the rules, AI trying to replicate, steal, duplicate.
But if you have a place that you know is accurate, that you know has that provenance, that you know the artist is collaborating with this safe space for people to be able to go in, post their creations, or have their NFT housed.
The more official groups that are out there that are fighting for this cause, the better off we're going to be.
We're not going to be able to stop the advancement of AI.
We're not going to be able to stop people that want to steal.
But we have to have just as many people.
We have to have more.
Strong people that aren't afraid to stand up and say, to have just as many people. We have to have more strong people that
aren't afraid to stand up and say, listen, this isn't right. I think we've seen in the Web2 realm
or in the previous financial structure, which seems to be changing now, thanks to everybody here,
that it was all about money in many cases. And it became really disgusting how much money and greed
took over and kind of killed creativity, right? And that's why
blockchain technology, creators, artists, and crypto have been able to thrive because they have
such a creative eye. They have the ability to express themselves. They're empowered across the
world. We don't want to lose that. And in order to keep that, we have to make sure individual rights
maintain and stay in place we have to go out speak
raise our voices talk about provenance partner with other people who believe in provenance
and we will win this war if we do that well said well said um ultron i i wanted to ask you because
i remember you saying like like you you mentioned earlier like people are going out and and obviously
buying and buying ethereum or how are you guys looking at this from a chain perspective right I remember you saying, like you mentioned earlier, like people are going out and obviously buying Ethereum.
How are you guys looking at this from a chain perspective, right?
Are you guys, let me not even put words in your mouth, but like, how are you, like, how are we supposed to be looking at this?
Whether from the artist, the collector perspective, I mean, either or.
Yeah, I think, you know, when you look at the traditional art world, and you look at the way things are
valued, provenance is determines value there too. But there's a lot of trust me, bro, right?
There's art experts, and they do tests, and they look at things, and they have records that might
not be correct, right? Like, all the art that the Nazis had, right? And that was later returned,
like, you know, we just have to believe them, that they're telling the truth about some of
these objects. Ethereum changes that. Ethereum telling the truth about some of these objects.
Ethereum changes that. Ethereum is the perfect ledger. It doesn't take an expert to be able to see who made this. Anyone can check the chain and see the validity of any object on Ethereum.
And I think that's what gives it value. And Ethereum's decentralized nature as all the eyes
of the world start looking in what they want to build here. You see BlackRock talking about wanting to build rails here and to build things.
You can't do that on some of these other centralized chains, right?
You can only do that on Ethereum.
So I think if you're an artist and you want to be able to go out and show your art somewhere where you can show that it is you, that it was definitively created by you and by nobody else. Ethereum is the place to do that.
Alleycat, are you trying to fight Ultron too,
being that you're a cat on Solana or what?
You know, listen, I'm just a spokesperson.
You know, I don't get into the nitty gritty of difference between blockchains.
Or I could, but I would sound like an idiot, I'm sure.
Damn it. All right. Right.
Beta voided.
Good job.
I have enough conflict on my plate.
I'm just messing around.
So are you guys looking at things?
Because when I look at the current landscape, right, like I run a daily crypto show and
we talk a lot about story protocol and IP.
Obviously, Ethereum, fantastic, right? Provenance is obviously the
big thing, but any chain that writes smart contracts, are you guys looking at it maybe
on a deeper, and this is for anybody, on maybe a bit of a deeper level? Are you looking at maybe
Tone, right? Like the Telegram blockchain, how are you guys actually looking? Is it anything
other than just, hey, there's a smart contract on a blockchain?
That's for anybody.
Anybody wants to chime in on that one or nobody wants to.
I think there's room for, for other chains, you know, like I, I'm not saying I'm just an ETH maxi.
I love base, right?
I feel like base is an extension of Ethereum.
And I love base and I love what's created on base.
And I think there are room for other chains.
But I think ETH is special.
And I think Joe Lubin has talked about it a lot recently in some of the threads that he's written.
The decentralized nature and decentralized trust of Ethereum separates it from any of these other chains.
And maybe these other chains get there someday. And a lot of them have a roadmap that shows that they will, but they have not.
So I think eventually we do maybe get there with some of them. Maybe some we don't. Some aren't
going to exist. We'll see what happens over the next five, six, seven, 10 years. We'll see.
But I think ETH is uniquely positioned for that. And it's for me personally,
if I'm collecting art, I usually look to Ethereum first.
Fair. No, fair point. Snacks, go for it.
Yeah, I think Beeple said something about that.
Like, where am I going to make my art? Like, it's got to be ETH.
And I can hear that.
But also, PizzaDow works with tons of chains around the world in throwing our events.
And I found that each chain seems to specialize
in different biz dev verticals.
So they might have really good relationships
in a certain industry
and build a community in that certain industry.
And that's how they're going to specialize.
And with the data availability stuff,
with like Eigenlayer and all of those other services,
you can kind of inherit the security of other chains and then build for your
own vertical. So I think we're going to see a lot of that happen. Yeah. And just to jump in,
I agree. Ethereum has really done some amazing things and been an amazing, stable blockchain for
a total renaissance of artwork to come out, especially in the 2021 realm. There was
like a total renaissance on Ethereum. But for myself personally, I am in some ways, I love the
concept of being like a multi-chain maxi because I do believe that there are amazing artists that
kind of onboard onto different blockchains and they end up maybe switching chains eventually or dropping
their work on multiple chains i know that dog token from own the doge is on seven chains currently
so i think there's going to be a time where we're going to see different blockchains maybe dogecoin
for example will be ignited a lot of people don't realize dogecoin is actually a blockchain as well
uh beyond being a token uh te Tezos really had some amazing art back
in the day, an explosion of artwork on there. Solana is really super easy to use and has had
a lot of very interesting and novel tools that have been built on it, especially in the 2022
timeframe. So definitely love Ethereum, but I think that there are a lot of different chains out there that are going to kind of not merge together, but there's a whole culture out there in the blockchain realm.
And I think that for there to be a way for each blockchain, each group of people on each blockchain to be able to connect, that's going to allow us to unlock an even stronger movement.
Well, yeah, I agree. I think the future is omni-chain.
It's definitely cross-chain, omni-chain, however you want to refer to it as. So I think being a
chain MACD in this day and age is only going to end up genuinely hurting you because I think what
that does is, I mean, it opens you up to so many more, especially as an artist, right? Any new
chain is almost like now you're opening up to new collectors, right?
Like maybe some people on that chain don't know how to use other chains.
And I speak to newbies in crypto all day, every day.
And I can assure you that once they figure out one blockchain, a lot of times it's very hard to like it's or it's a while before they start exploring and going on to the next one because they just started feeling comfortable with this one, right?
Like it's not β blockchain is not an easy thing for noobs to understand.
And as art collectors, you want to abstract this stuff away, right?
You want to hide all the wires and you want to make it as simple as possible for people to be able to consume your art.
So, yeah, really, really good stuff, guys.
I know we have about like 10 minutes. Can maybe we go around the room and you guys maybe tell us like, how are you guys like maybe
some cool use cases of how you're using your IP maybe across like media games or tokenization.
Alleycat, maybe we start with you. Like how is Mute like any cool use cases that you want to
share with us? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, obviously, I think our own IP
is involved in everything we do,
and the fact that we own it really allows us
to take it in any direction we want,
create a new character.
We could retcon an old character.
Sorry if you like that character,
but we're allowed to change it, you know?
So I think that, obviously, that's going to be a part
of the several video games that we're coming out with, our animation series, as well
as any of the merch and the illustrations, but also more specifically for people that may not
know, we have a licensing agreement with Own the Doge, and we are going to be able to use that
Shiba imagery in any of the stuff that we do because
it is very important to us to have a level of quality in our project and the last thing we want
is have some weird offbeat kind of like a sonic meme the sonic meme like a sonic version of
the doge meme we wanted to make sure we had it legit so you'll definitely see some of that
imagery in any of those projects that i just listed and something we're really excited about
for us and on the doge that's cool that's cool fab on the azuki side like how are you guys maybe
using like the uh the ip maybe some cool different ways like maybe media games anything
of course of course all the time and many many things
in the pipeline i can't even talk about but even for the stuff we already did quite a lot of them
we did uh early on we did a fractionalization for one of the razuki called bobu and we actually do
have a doubt running that ip and lots of creative stuff coming out of it. We really try our best to integrate holders IPs
into the anime contents we make whenever we can.
So for the Azuki anime anthology series,
which are already out, we did lots of holder licenses
where holders assets actually appear in the anime episode.
We did something even more aggressive for the first episode.
If you do own a Zuki token and you actually watch the episode,
some of the billboards inside the episode will be dynamically replaced to your assets.
Lots of fun, lots of interesting stuff over there.
We're also very, very interested in 1155s.
So I think for each of the anime episodes, we launch the key visual, which is basically the poster for the episode, as well as the episode as the 1155 collectibles.
So we definitely believe that right now we see a very strong need from anime fans where they don't really just want to be a viewer for the content.
They want to engage, they want to collect the content more
than what the viewing experience currently is offering.
I think it really goes back to what we were talking about earlier
in this space about provenance.
And in my mind, anime fans are actually much more similar
to Web3 fans than we realize.
And for the 1155s we collect, proceedings actually go back to the original creators who make the anime themselves.
So I think some of you in the space who are very deep in the anime side might know that there is a very big structural problem with the anime industry right now,
where the creators, the studios who are actually making the anime
aren't really getting paid well.
Massive problem, very much a sweatshop.
And we're hoping that with a lot of the tokens explorations
we're doing on the Azuki side,
we could really be offering an alternate path
towards monetization and towards engaging with IPs
as we look into the next generation
for how anime and web3 are going to work together.
Good shit.
Man, tons of freaking alpha info.
You guys are literally teaching me so much shit here, man.
This is amazing.
Berko, anything on the pudgy side that you maybe want to share share how you guys are maybe using the ip in some maybe cool different ways
oh man so many different ways i don't even know how to put it in one sentence but you know
everything you can think of from you know gaming to socials to physical products.
Every single thing utilizes the core IP,
and it comes together in people's brains
like to make them click, to make them realize, hey,
this is a Project Penguin.
That's what I've been seeing.
That's what I enjoy.
But yeah, I think one of the biggest expansion
in the past year has been around the physicals.
There's toys in thousands of stores
in dozens of countries,
and people just randomly find them.
They don't even, they might not even know it's there,
but they come across it, and then they share it with their friends. They might buy it for their loved ones. And it's super wholesome to see.
Good stuff. Yeah, Alex, go for it.
marketplace don't necessarily have our own IP. But obviously,
what we do is we launch limited stickers on Telegram for the
IPs that we do work with. And I think, indeed, the point that
you raised is very important. I think the Azuki actually
mentioned that as well that creators in this space are not
always compensated fairly. And I think this is one of the things that we definitely make sure that they do
because with the revenue split between us and the creator,
the creator is always having a much bigger chunk than us as a marketplace,
even though we do oftentimes create these stickers themselves based off their IP.
But we do create them oftentimes ourselves.
And we believe that while it's not about purely legality of this,
but it's very important for us from a standpoint of we need the collection,
the author, the original author to get behind it
and their community to get behind it,
to make sure that they understand that this thing is legit, this sticker of doodles from pudgy penguins,
from loads of the cartoons that we launched, that they are all real.
And we launched, you know, we launched Web 2 collections.
We also launched plenty of Web 3, obviously, collections.
And I think quite a few are still coming in.
And I think another one is actually a famous NFT is launching on Monday.
And so for us, it is very important to make sure, you know,
the IP owner is 100% happy with the creatives and with the terms.
Otherwise, their community will not buy into that.
I feel like it's a very different use case too, right?
It's kind of unique when you think of stickers, sticker store, access to TG, token-gated access
and stuff.
So I don't know.
I like the sticker store use case.
I really, really do.
Good stuff, Alex.
Tyler, I saw you had your hand up, please.
Just to chime in, sorry, very quickly.
The thing that you mentioned, I think it is very important that, you know, owners of certain stickers, they do create their own gator chats now.
And you can only get into that chat if you own that particular sticker from that particular collection.
And these communities, they're born absolutely organically with zero help from us whatsoever.
And they do, they start building their own merch they start doing
so many different things uh based on you know based on they meet up they they organize their
events out of themselves all on their own just purely you know very organic community building
exercise there yeah good stuff great thanks alex um tyler go for it yeah before i get into it i
just want to um extend a invite to Alex from Sticker Pack.
Dude, I'd love to chat with you afterwards, so let's connect.
But yeah, so really cool stuff. For us, from the Miggles side, how are we actually growing this Miggles brand and IP?
So I actually pinned two tweets at the top here. You guys check it out at the front.
at the top here if you guys check it out at the front um so a couple weeks ago we were just at
the las vegas licensing expo which is essentially this conglomerate organization of all the biggest
brands and ips in the world like literally all the brands that you know were there and many of
our friends here actually in the crowd and on spaces were also there with us mu doge pudgy um
and some other folks as well but it's essentially how we're actually bringing this cat,
bringing Miggles to life.
How are we doing that?
And because how I also see it is that if you think about the movie Ready Player One,
why does everybody love that series so much?
It's because it's a universe of all the characters that we've grown to love
throughout the decades of culture that has been evolving.
And but one has to wonder what are going to who like what is the cohort?
Who is going to be on the roster of these on-chain crypto native IPs that actually make
into this grand IP multiverse?
And I think many I mean, I think many and all of the speakers here today, we are going
to be part of that list that enters this grand, gigantic multiverse of IPs that are celebrated, that are loved, that have culture and community all across the world.
And so this is what we're doing.
We're building these toys.
We're building these smart fashion and collectibles.
So we give some sneak peeks here in the video.
So definitely check that out.
But essentially, we're excited to bring Miggles to the world
because
and you know like shout out
to me as well but like you know this
we're cats in a dog's world
so we're here to
play our game we won't just let
the dogs win we love the dogs but it's time for
the cats to shine. Let's go
and I don't know if you actually set this up Tyler
if you knew but we actually just started a whole series here with this past Tuesday with Futureverse and
Futureverse actually has the IP to Ready Player One. And we are actually doing a four, a full
four part series with them over the next four weeks. So our first episode was this last Tuesday.
It's every Tuesday for the next three weeks. So guys, please tune in. That was a great setup,
Tyler. Thank you very much for that one. Amazing. Yeah. Would love to have you guys join.
There is monster. I mean, this is like what these, like what these founders are doing at
Futureverse is literally emphasizing everything that everybody is saying here. Right. And it's,
it's super, super interesting stuff. So I'd love to have you guys join that combo too, but
snacks go for it, man.
Thank you, Tyler.
Yeah, I love what Tyler was saying.
And it reminded me of one of my most,
the thing I'm most excited about with Own the Doge
and us being stewards of the most well-known meme, right, ever,
is that we are in this unique position where we are friends
and can build relationships with all these other memes.
So when that Ready Player One scene happens, we can be a big part of bringing that cohort, bringing that coalition together.
And I think that is super exciting.
Great stuff. Yes, Mo, go for it.
Great stuff. Yes, Mo, go for it.
Yeah, no, I mean, everyone has been so, you know, amazing at explaining what we're entering into.
We were just talking about Ready Player One as well.
So we would love to tune in or potentially be a part of a panel with that crew.
But just so excited to think about this new era of brands, this new era of memes kind of breaking out into the mainstream.
This new era of brands, this new era of memes kind of breaking out into the mainstream.
I think that it's very true to say that a lot of the people up here on this panel within the audience have been diehard working towards these goals.
And it's just amazing to see it all come together.
When it comes to the Doge IP, I think there has been a need to have this out in the mainstream at the highest levels.
have this out in the mainstream at the highest levels. I'm always shocked to see that we don't
have, or I can envision like even in the supermarket, a Doge balloon or in clothing
stores, like some really high-end Doge fashion, not only in the United States, but absolutely in
Japan where Doge actually comes from. A lot of people don't know, but Doge's real name is Kabosu
and she is a female dog. So a lot of people think it's a male dog, but it's actually a female dog named Kobosu. And we just can't wait
to share this story across the world, especially to the Japanese people to let them know that Doge
is a Japanese celebrity and to kind of enter this new era along with Kokoro, along with our friends
at Nero. We kind of have a whole story, almost a Disney-esque story with at Suko
and the way that this all started
with Doge being saved from a puppy mill
and the new pets that have been adopted along the way.
And it is amazing to be working alongside our friends
toward this mission.
Amazing.
Good stuff.
Ultron, give us your, you go for it.
And I think that's going to be our last closing thought
before we close out.
Amazing stuff, guys. Go ahead, Ultron. Hey, you go for it. And I think that's going to be our last closing thought before we close out. Amazing stuff, guys.
Go ahead, Tron.
Hey, thank you very much.
I think we talked a lot about internet culture today.
And I think a big part of that, at least for all of us, is CT culture.
You know, like if I said to you, steady lads, you know where that comes from, right?
If I talked about a WASI, there's no such thing as a WASI.
If I talked about that, you'd all know what I was talking about.
I wouldn't have all the facts of how long they live and where they live
and everything. CT culture is a thing. And I think up only, if we look back on that, was the hub of
CT culture. And us at the Bureau of Internet Culture are culture maxis, right? So recently,
Kobe went out and created an NFT that said if 10,000 ETH was raised and they
bought this NFT and burned it, he would bring back UPONLY.
So we took that as our mission is clear.
So we have created a contract that people can donate to.
You can go to saveuponly.com or saveuponly.eth if you want to send it direct, and we will raise 10,000 ETH, and we will bring up
only back to the people, and we will save the bull market. The contract, you can send ETH to it.
If we do not, it has to be on mainnet, by the way. But if we do not raise it in 30 days,
you can take your ETH back. It is completely safe. It is unruggable um but that's our mission and we look
back on on on cultural things that we do these are the things that are important to us ct culture is
important to us and that's our mission we are going to bring back colby and ledger kicking and
screaming if we have to but we are going to bring that back and we will bring back the bull market
with it hold up where's the total at right now ultron we just started so it's like it's at like point
one or something now it's it's small it just started it just started but this is the type
of audience that we need to bring it back these are the things that we used to do if you look back
it up only right when we would do like when he'd do like the music streams and we would bring
everybody together we'd have thousands of people listening to an artist right that is looking for
an audience and now all of a sudden you have thousands of people listening to an artist, right? That is looking for an audience. And now all of a sudden you have thousands of people listening, people
like Mella B, right? Who has, who has having a phenomenal career right now too, if you follow
her from that, from that, since that stream to now, right? CT used to come together to accomplish
great things. And that hub was on Up Only. So why don't we come together now and accomplish the
greatest thing that we can and bring back the cultural hub of CT and bring back Up Only.
Yo, you got me fired up, man.
That's amazing.
Louis, I know you had your hand up.
I don't want to close out.
Obviously, if you had anything else to add, please feel free.
No, I was going to talk about IP activation on our side and quickly, it's funny how we
can see that it comes also naturally from people discovering our world.
So as you know, I mentioned we have the statue and this wall on the way to Starbase.
So we have many people stopping by, taking pictures, asking questions.
And we got a local brewery reaching out to us to want to launch a
beer uh we know also a guide throughout texas that want to use our image to be like one of the
flagship you want to use it to promote these agencies so it's really funny even if you don't
look for uh brands some comes ids naturally to to you so it's a matter of time that the bridge will
uh be effective and linking uh web 2 and web 3 and it's going to be massive and when i see all this
activation and all the people in the panel it's uh the future is very bright. Well said. Really well said.
Guys, this has been absolutely incredible.
I obviously want to be super respectful of everybody's time.
Maybe my co-host,
you guys can give me two closing thoughts
and then we can kick out of here.
But actually, real quick, before I go to you guys,
guys, I brought my personal account
on stage also, but we put out the full
recap to this on the Wagme Hub page, on my page as well.
So make sure you're following the Wagme account.
Obviously, follow everybody up on stage here.
That funky looking Bat Cowl, that's my PFP.
Shout out to the Bat Cowl fam.
But yeah, we're going to do full recaps, audio diagrams, audio visual, super clean, beautiful.
So you guys can obviously, this conversation doesn't die here, right?
From what I'm, this stuff has to stay on the timeline.
And that's essentially what we're focused on doing.
But AliKat, give us your closing thoughts and then we'll go to smoke and then we'll close out.
Yeah, I'm actually going to go a little bit off the beaten path with this.
I'm not going to talk about Mew or our IP or any particular project
here, but I just want to say thank you to Wagme Hub as well as everyone else coming on here.
And what I really wanted to speak about is the fact that Wagme reached out and wanted to do
spaces with us or with me, whatever you want to call the collective of Mew, and was wondering if
we had any guests that we could
bring on. And I said, well, you know, I don't really know. I could like source some people,
blah, blah, blah. You know, I was kind of struggling to figure out because, you know,
we work pretty independently. We don't have like big KOLs or anything like that.
And then I started to think, I said, no, you know, let me reach out to own the Doge. And
you know what? Let me, I think we could talk about IP here.
And it just started to grow. And I just want to basically extol the virtues of everybody coming
together and working together and being very, very grateful for, you know, making all these
new connections. Because I think this is a conversation I've had before with a lot of people
in this, in this spaces, but not with Wagme Hub, which
maybe exposes a whole new audience to this conversation. And then, you know, brings people
together with Wagme Hub. Maybe some of you guys can do some stuff together. I know, you know,
stickers you're going to hop on with. I think that was Tyler from Miggles. So just a big thank you
and sending out a lot of love, guys. Yes, sir. I love this.
Yeah, and I can tell you, like my co-host, Miss Gecko, is down there, right?
Like I heard somebody mention Tezos earlier.
She's a huge art collector on Tezos.
So like everything you guys were preaching today, like was literally gospel probably.
So this was amazing stuff.
Alicott, I can't thank you enough for obviously coordinating it.
But yeah, great stuff.
Smoke, please close us out. Yeah. Thank you guys so much. We were just talking about it in the
background. Myself, Bic Dow, Elon RWA, we're really so honored to be here. Thank you so much
for giving us the opportunity, Allie Cat, for reaching out to me and kind of letting us bring
some of our closest friends and family in the Provenance community out here to represent.
If you're in the audience and you haven't heard about this yet, you haven't heard about this movement,
pivot to provenance. Follow everybody on stage. Ask as many questions as you have. You're not
going to find a more authentic community than the communities that are up here today. We're
fighting for creators and we're fighting for the entire industry. So make sure to follow,
make sure to reach out and DM. Everybody would love to answer questions,
have you guys join the community.
And we really appreciate you holding this space
and gonna follow you guys right away
and make sure to be attending some more spaces down the line.
Yeah, pleasure was mine.
This was incredible stuff.
I mean, really just massive level.
I learned so, like, this is what I love about this entire space
is I'm constantly
learning new things from all, like from every single walk across Twitter and across this world.
And guys, if you're not following these, like these accounts, you have unprecedented access.
You just heard smoke tell you, reach out. We want to talk to you. Okay. So if you're an either an
artist, like whatever it is, like reach out to these. Like you have access now.
Take advantage of that.
But incredible stuff.
Alley Cat, thank you.
Smoke, appreciate it.
Alex, Thicker Pack.
Burko, appreciate you being here.
Conan, thank you so much.
Snacks, Feb and the Oluzuki fam, the Miggles fam, Ultron, thank you.
Dora, Louie.
Man, you know, we do this every single week, guys.
Like we're putting on some of the best, most.
I mean, these are really insightful conversations.
So hope you guys are back.
Don't forget, we also have obviously next week, like we mentioned, All On Board is going to be Tuesday at 4 p.m.
And man, who knows what we're going to bring you next week, but it's going to be killer.
Towns Protocol.
I see you.
Get in our DMs.
We got to chat.
And I hope everybody has a great weekend.
This was a pleasure.
Have a good one, guys.
Peace. Thank you.
