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Is September Rate Cut a Done Deal? How Weak Jobs Data Could Redraw Glo
Recorded: Sept. 11, 2025 Duration: 1:23:36Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the implications of upcoming Fed rate cuts, the launch of new tokens, and the growth potential of various projects. Key insights included the listing of the Sun token, the importance of stablecoin inflows, and the evolving landscape of crypto adoption, signaling a bullish outlook for the market.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. What's up, everybody?
Welcome, welcome, welcome.
You know this is the spot on Thursday at 6 a.m. here on the West Coast.
You know I love waking up early.
Let's go.
I see Nat Nat here.
Guys, if you are a speaker, please request on up.
We are going to get cooking in just a second.
We got a ton to chat about today.
Fed rate cuts, all the geeky, nerdy stuff.
And then we're going to try and figure out how to make some sense of it one way or another.
Jobless claims and a bunch of other more geeky stuff.
But yeah, it's going to be exciting.
Again, guys, like, share, retweet this space out.
Let's get some tunes going over here and then we're going to get cooking in just a minute.
Let's go.
Virgo, what's up, baby?
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What's up?
What's up?
Let's go. Let's go. And you came out with your winner's name
Shouted loudly, come out and pray
Can't you tell I got news for you
Sun is shining and so are you
And we're gonna be alright
Dry your tears and hold tight
Can't you tell I got news for you oh
whoo wee!
my neighbors are gonna hate me.
Hopefully it's checkout day.
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We got a lot to talk about. Hey! when Oh, that's why I see you by economy.
Welcome.
What up?
Nebach, Bonavie, D4.
Let's go. That's my wannabe Son Sunny D reenactment because, you know, we're all wishing that, you know, obviously at 6 a.m. on a Thursday that we were at, you know, EDC.
So you guys are welcome.
Hope everybody is awake, alive.
Yeah, man.
Let's go.
I hope everybody is ready to go.
Guys, last one.
If you can can please like share
retweet this out put it in the group chats all that fun shit um we're gonna have a serious convo
today all right we're gonna put our gonna put our trad fi hats on all right even though this is a
sun pump meme coin space you know that you know we have to bring you what's going on what's cooking
in these markets and what's going to affect our bags and essentially where is this money going to
be going when a one of probably many different potential outcomes is obviously on the table but let's go
around real quick let's do a quick round of intros guys if you can 30 seconds or less just give us a
brief what's up uh you have a project uh feel free to give us an intro on that and then we uh we're
going to jump into it and uh and get cooking um but our one of our newer guests, Bikonomy, welcome. How are you? Who
do we got behind the account? Hey, guys. I'm Breno here. I'm the VP of partnerships at
Bikonomy.com. Happy to join. It's a conversation ahead of us. I just want to highlight that
I have a background in international business, so that's my views. Usually very global. Bikonomy
goals is to offer global access to
crypto liquidity so we're happy to be here and to see some buffing let's go man appreciate it I
know you got some fun uh you got some some some interesting announcements for us but we're gonna
save the teaser to the end everyone's gonna have to wait for these uh wait for the alpha from by
economy uh and Sun pump but um and by economy if can, by chance, the speakerphone sounded really far,
but if you can, once we start the convo, if you could just either throw in some headset or
pick up that phone, that would be much appreciated. Sunny D, what's good, baby? Welcome.
Yo, good morning, everybody. Here we are again, another Thursday. I'm looking forward to this
conversation. It kind of seems like an extension.
We started hinting on the possibility of this and politics and its correlation to this wave of crypto adoption last week.
So this week, looks like we're going to get right into it.
What does it mean if this does happen?
I'm Sonny D. I'm here every week. I'm a loyal Tron, Tronic, and I just like
to be here and support and join in these conversations. And thank you very much for
having me every week. Appreciate it. Let's go. And guys, you know, we got the cooking space on
Thursday when my girl Shirley Lowe is in the building. Shout out to Shirley Lowe. What's up,
Shirley? Hey, let's go.
DeForce, welcome back. Who do we got behind the account? Give us a quick intro.
Hi, guys. My name is An. And, you know, I represent DeForce.
There's been, you know, a couple of calls we have together.
We've been building DeFi since 2019.
Since then, we developed our own decentralized stable coin lending protocol
and you know more recently we've been really happy into rwa we open our own vaults which people can check out on conflux with eight percent yield on stable coins and also defy. So me, the AI branch of DeFi.
We're building our own AI yield aggregator.
And yeah,
really bullish on the whole
DeFi crypto meme coin
sector overall. Thank you for having me.
Yes, sir. Welcome, man.
Good to have you back, DeForce. Good stuff.
Crespo, what's up, man? How are you?
What's up, Dave? GM, everyone.
Good to be here once again.
It's another beautiful Thursday morning.
I'm sure I'm happy to be here.
As we're about to take this important topic, let's cook.
Let's go. Good stuff, Crespo. Happy to have you, man.
Nebach, who do we got behind the account? Give us a quick intro.
Please, man. Nabox, who do we got behind the account? Give us a quick intro, please. Welcome.
I gotta hit him this early. Nabox, can you
hear me?
Nope. Inaudible, sir.
We do not...
Alright, so...
Good night, everyone. So, Nope, inaudible sir, we do not. All right, so I'm glad you're here.
Good morning.
Good night everyone.
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Yeah, you got it, Mike. it welcome it's great to have you
um guys make sure you're obviously shooting everybody up here on stage a follow
um my fellow co-host nat what is good thank you so much for obviously joining in the space
early on a thursday what's up thanks for having me dave i'm happy to be here excited to dive into
this conversation with regards to myself, former banker.
I've been in the investment world for a very long time, over 15 years.
I recently founded Hedera Spotlight, where we kind of put the spotlight on amazing projects being built on Hedera Hashgraph.
It's all positive vibe. I don't consider myself a call, but I do consider myself a key vibe leader where we all just get together and vibe out regardless of what's going on.
Damn, Natchez coined a new term.
She said she's a KVL.
I thought like we were, I was going with Kale, like a key AI leader, a Kale.
But Natchez coined a KVL.
I actually like the sound of that better, to be honest.
It was like, remember when I was chief vibes officer?
Ah, those are the days.
Somebody else got that job now.
Good luck.
Anyways, Deb Ayer, welcome.
I love having you.
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Give us a quick intro and we're going to get cooking.
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Devere, next time, my bro.
Miro, Bonavi, welcome, man.
Give us a quick intro.
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It's always nice to be here.
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we all have a good time thank you let's go appreciate you brother trab hey yo hey yo what's
up baby hey yo hey yo what up dave what's going on, everyone? It's your boy, Trav, Megatron
Styles, coming at you live. Long-time Tronics, one of the co-founders of the Mega Team, along
with my boy, Sonny D. Excited about this Thursday conversation. Let's go, baby. Let's go.
Let's go, my bro. Good to have you, Trav. Love it. And I don't know, we have Devere coming
back up real quick, but Kurchinsky welcome. What's up?
Hello, I'm representing Tyco. We're building a base roll up
Altium the theorem so yeah happy to be here and discuss today's topics. Let's go. All right. Good stuff
Yeah, it looks like Devere is
Is the it's still connecting so let's kind of jump right into this because there is a lot at stake over here.
We got a big FOMC meeting coming up and we got to start looking at like, you know, just like the title says, right?
Like rate cut. Is it a done deal? What kind of basis point cut are we actually going to be seeing?
What is that actually going to mean for the market?
So we're going to kind of hold your hand, everybody that's listening here, we're going
to hold your hand all the way through and essentially kind of go over how is this going
to affect your bags, the crypto market, the general trad find market, and just the overall
economy in general, what it means.
And guys, anybody that's up here, try and keep it as really high level as possible if
you can, because I want this to be genuinely
understandable for everybody that's here. And yeah, let's get this thing cooking. So
let's talk to macro right now, right? I saw jobs just came in. I think it was just maybe about an hour ago. A lot more unemployed people than we expected.
I think it was something like 260,000 plus unemployed.
They only added 22,000 jobs.
Unemployment's still at 4.3%.
Nat, I'm going to kick it off with you because I know that you got a lock on all this stuff.
Is this the end?
What are we doing here on Fed rate hikes, right? Are we going to see
25 basis points, 50 basis points? What are we looking at? You know what? That is a very great
question. And I think there's a wild 25 basis points seem to be already priced in, right? We're
seeing all of these, even Trump, BlackRockRock and all of these other individuals are calling for a bigger rate cut because it can be said that we are behind the ball on this one.
Right. We're seeing the economy weakening. The labor market is weakening.
And there's there's so much going on. Trump even called for a full basis, for a full point.
Right. So now it now the question remains not if
they're going to cut, but how big. Right. And what will be the reaction? So there's a lot of rumors
with 20 being that 25 percent is already priced in. One can say that it can be a seldom use event.
Now, statistically. Right. If we go back to the history of all the rate cuts, we see that the markets, they tend to give into a downturn within like 18 months after the initial rate cut.
So it would be interesting with regards to how crypto is concerned.
Remember when Bitcoin was created, it was it was created as a hedge for time like these.
So we very interesting to see how crypto is performed, especially once we have all that liquidity coming into the system right um the other point the other point of that
coin right is that we have gold if gold is definitely sending us a warning we can we can
we can see a lot of volatility ahead now if bitcoin does exactly what we think it's going to do or what it was made for, one can say that we may be in for some nice upside here.
But it all remains to be seen.
Next week is going to be a big week.
Again, it's not whether we're going to cut or not.
It's by how big.
Let's go.
Great stuff.
Really, really great stuff.
Biconomy, I kind of want to get your take on this.
What do you think?
Where are we at right now and do you think like this confirms kind of the
end of uh of the tightening cycle or what do you think maybe temporary adjustment where you at where
are you guys how you guys looking at this we're quite optimistic about everything i think the
mic's better now uh we're quite optimistic about everything that we're seeing, although the DPI was a little higher than expected today.
Actually, the CPI was a little higher than expected today.
DPI was good.
I do think that we're going to see multiple cuts of 0.25.
That's my personal opinion, not the opinion on economy.com.
But we're seeing more activity.
I think we're going to be increasing for Q4.
Good take. Good take, good take good take good take sunny d how are you looking at this right because like like coming from our perspective like i mean us being in the trenches all day every day like what kind of an
effect you think this is uh this is going to have on uh on kind of our every everyday well um you know i just look back to previous years where you know rate
cuts happened and uh i mean i i think it's uh it opens up opportunity i mean obviously uh it makes
money more accessible so i think uh hopefully businesses will be able to invest in themselves a little bit more, bring on more people.
And I think it's really necessary because of all of the things that are going on right now in terms of AI.
I think companies need to bring on people that can kind of like guide brick and mortar businesses through this transformational situation that
we're all kind of experiencing together in real time. And I think there's a lot of preparing to
do in regards to that. I think there's a huge shift in real estate. And I think there's a huge
shift of, and we saw it last week with, or this week where the U.S. government published their GDP data directly on Tron as the first blockchain to publish that information on.
I think we're seeing the transformation is going to is starting to happen.
The tokenization of information of real world assets, of currencies, of, you know, different, the store of value. So I think when they do this,
I think it's going to enable people to really, or when I say people, I mean, business owners and
investors and, and just, it's going to open up the opportunities for, for the world, or at least,
you know, the United States to really buckle down and focus on this
transformation and i i think we're going to start seeing acceleration
interesting yeah d force i kind of want to bring you in here what do you think like do you think
it's full-on like full-on pivot or is this just kind of you know the fed maybe being a little bit
cautious right like maybe like are they they kind of like tapping the brakes right now at the red light and
not so much just like parking the car?
And do you think they're going to give us, you know, some breathing room over here?
Where are you guys at?
Well, I think we're close to a pivot.
but i think the rate cuts are going to come that's what the market expects and you know so
I think the rate cuts are going to come.
That's what the market expects.
sooner or later eventually they will come and when they come you know the drill uh liquidity goes up
and usually the markets like crypto especially altcoins tend to benefit from it so you know
economy moves in cycle and it's up to us to write them and to to get informed
and to understand them but eventually it's going to be good for the market yeah good stuff crespo
what about you give me your take you think the fed over here is gonna is gonna cut maybe give
the economy a little bit of breathing room or they uh um what do you think are they just
going to throw out money like they did back in 2020 and 2021 yeah i my own opinion my own opinion
i think it's going to be a little bit cautious giving the take that, you know, we, since June, the president and the Fed chair has been going back and forth about cutting, you know, the cut stuff.
And then it hasn't really been happening. And then now they have finally agreed to happen.
So we don't really know how much it's going to play out, if it's going to be so big or if it is going to be, you know, just a little tap.
But I believe it is going to be of good profit to the crypto community
because when this happens, I believe liquidity will flow in.
And it's based on those that believe it from it.
But I know, yeah, we expect good turn out of it.
Yeah.
I mean, you know me, I don't like the full agree agree agree space but i'm kind of with you guys in terms of like where you're
thinking is that trap what do you think if the fed cuts does crypto kind of get this money first
where where are we at
Dave, can you hear me?
Yeah, I got you, bro.
Yeah, I'm in a bad area.
But yeah, I mean, bro, I mean, of course it does.
It has to.
Like the old system is dying and the establishment has to move into the crypto space.
That's the only way that they can say themselves.
So and they've been setting up for the last few years to do so that's why they demonize crypto so hard and built a public perception that crypto is a scam
so they can get themselves in position now they're more in position now they're trying to change the
public perception and they're seeing that it's harder than they thought it was going to be
because they made it so bad it's the only reason crypto hasn't boomed off already. But, you know, we're in the beginning stages, of course.
There's going to be a colossal move up in this space because it has to.
If it doesn't, everything else crashes.
And they are totally aware of this because they're at the end of the life cycle of this corrupt system that's been in place for the last hundred and so years.
Yeah. Agreed, man.
It's like they almost, yeah, yeah i do they kind of have to
bro i mean and and and i you know i'll add to that dave you know everybody you know everybody's
waiting on government to do this and do that uh the world won't change until more people realize
the government is the problem the fed is the problem it's a privatized organization the
government our governments don't run money the bank bank cartel do. They run the world. And until more people wake up to that, we're going to be in the shit storm that we're in. Crypto is a vehicle to help wake people up to that. Take control of your money. We got to get back to solid money, gold, silver, Bitcoin, and these other decentralized networks that we have available to ourselves.
Bitcoin and these other decentralized networks that we have available to ourselves.
We have to educate our way out of this.
People have to understand the government is the problem, not the solution.
It always has been.
Yeah.
Great take.
I mean, look, however we want to see it.
But, you know, we've been begging for government involvement, like mass adoption, mass adoption.
And I didn't think we were going to be here.
You know what I mean?
I genuinely didn't think we were going to be here you know what i mean i genuinely
didn't think we were going to be in this position so now that we are here yeah uh yeah it's going
to be interesting to see kind of how this whole thing goes but uh good take trap kaczynski talk
to me man what do you where are you at with this rate cuts and uh and whatnot yeah i agree with
all of this figure that basically fat should rate cut and you know
like errone is talking about that right now uh so i expect this to happen you know this month
and i think the next month we'll have also some rate cuts because you know we have we are within
inflation like below the three percent which was like the target for the fats
so i think it's time to rate cards and pump everything
i mean does everything pump that's the question nebox good take kaczynski nebox where are you at
are we getting rate cuts and uh what do you think this crypto market does well uh indeed the the
numbers that you mentioned that shows that the labor market, which was very strong over the last few years, is clearly losing momentum.
So what makes this even more important that earlier job figures were revised down, which means the slowdown has been building quietly for months, not just in August or in the last few months. So to me, this tells us the economy is finally feeling the full effect of high interest rate.
Companies are slowing hiring.
Workers are finding it harder to get jobs, and that affects spending across the board.
So usually when the jobs weaken, it's one of the earliest signs that growth is cooling.
one of the earliest signs that growth is cooling.
So for markets including crypto, for all of us in this space, crypto matters a lot and
this matters because weak jobs data usually pushes the Fed to ease policy sooner.
So Trump is pushing it.
If rates stop going up and eventually start coming down liquidity improves and whenever there's more
liquidity investor often look for assets that can give higher returns which is where bitcoin ethereum
and other um altcoin often comes into play so they are high uh they are strong expectation that
the fed will cut race this month so looking forward to it. And I believe that there will be a rate cut in this month. Thank you.
Yeah, interesting.
Bonavi,
jump in here, man. Talk to me.
Yeah, so
definitely, I think the week
job report is definitely a red flag,
but I won't say it's a
full confirmation of the end of the tightening cycle.
But it gives the Fed
very strong cover to
finally leaning through a rate cut without looking like they are moving too early so in other words
i think that it may not be the end of the tightening by design but by circumstance the
labor market is telling them the system can't handle much pressure anymore and on one hand the
fed knows historically that when unemployment starts rising, it really
versies smoothly. So that's why they might treat this as the beginning of a larger shift in policy.
And on the other hand, given inflation is still not a target, they will likely frame it as a
measured response rather than a full pivot. So to where I see it, the weak jobs data may have been
the spark, but the bigger fire here is that global
liquidity flows could already be shifting. So if the Fed even hints that this is more than one of
the adjustments, then I believe markets will start pricing in structural easing, and that could set
the tone for the rest of 2025. Yeah, that's my view. Thank you. Yeah, for sure. Nat, what do you think?
Because there's a very fine line here between Fed cutting rates and then obviously people don't have jobs.
You want people to be able to get jobs.
But then you get this big burst.
And if the inflation number rears its head, then we crash.
So how do they kind of balance this whole like this
whole thing you know what i mean like are should we be looking out for inflation is there a recession
on the way like i mean what kind of commerce like combos do we need to be having right now
yeah so i think the conversation would be more geared towards uh stagflation matter of fact
in jackson hall um powell did hint towards the possibility of stagflation. Matter of fact, in Jackson Hole, Powell did hint towards the possibility of
stagflation, right? And this is, we're kind of seeing a little bit of it now. So it puts the
Fed under a lot of pressure because obviously they can't keep interest rates higher for longer
because it'll hurt the economy even more. So at some point, and I do, this is why I'm leaning towards, you know, they are going to cut the matter. The question is how big the system
needs that big, that liquidity flow back in. Right. And I believe at some point, at some point,
the economy can actually benefit from this. But with regards to CPI, there's a potential that it can go higher and there's a
potential for the job numbers to get even worse. And this, again, puts the Fed in a very interesting
spot. And I believe that Trump knows it. This is why he's been conning for those rate cuts earlier
on in order to prevent us going into maybe a possible recession or stagflation.
Yeah. And for those that don't know, like when we say stagflation,
it's literally exactly what it sounds like, right? It means like you get like the best,
you get the worst, excuse me, the worst of both worlds, right? Like your economy is stagnant,
meaning it's not growing at all, right? Your people and like your population can't find jobs.
Businesses are genuinely in that like, they're not growing, right? Like, businesses
aren't making money. And then you get the inflation side of it, like, to top it off.
Prices continue to go up, right? Food more expensive, rent more expensive. You know,
you still got gas bills and grocery bills, right? Like, this stuff doesn't get cheaper. So
if Jerome Powell is literally saying fears of stagflation,
that should be a big indicator in terms of like, you know, like what we can potentially see and
hoping that the Fed does cut rates. But it's going to be interesting to see like the market is now
pricing maybe 25 basis points. I'm kind of curious where like what like what you guys think in terms of if they do cut, let's say, 50, what does that actually mean for the market?
Does Bitcoin rally? Is this price stuff already factored in? Where are you guys at?
And I'll open up the floor, but Biconomy kick us off, and then I want to get everybody's take on this.
Where are you guys at? do you think that this is
going to be calling for like if taxation is a thing is this rate cut going to be 50 base points
and is the market actually pricing this stuff in already that's a good question Dave I actually
agree with Nats the question is how big it's going to be. But I do remember, and I was reading a lot of analysis made this week, we had a study
on the easing cycle, what, a year ago when we had 50 base points, and then kind of scared
everybody how quick the market picked that up and how excited it got.
then we hit pause and now we're coming back.
Then it paused, and now we're coming back.
So I would bet on this first one being kind of prudent
on 25 BBS and then to control the excitement,
but this is gonna be a very positive side to the market.
I don't think it's entirely priced in
and I think we have some other indicators
like the easing of this terror for strong learnings coming up
on Q4 starting from even this month.
And there's a lot of cash waiting on the sidelines to come back into the market.
We see large institutions saving their liquidity, waiting for the right moment.
We saw recently an upside in gold, which will not stay part of it for too long
because the returns of the ROI are not
so high. So there's a strong trend, we keep getting good news and also the results of
all the regulatory changes that have been happening all around this year. It takes a
while so we can, for all the results of these changes and new projects new solutions new tech
come up and bring this value creation to the market i think we're going to see an upside but
i think it's not going to be so drastic this month but hopefully we'll keep going through the rest of
the year yeah so to put the things in perspective the last time we had stagflation or a period of stagflation was in the 1970s.
And the markets didn't react well at all.
They reacted very, very poorly.
Because think about it, you have high, like you said, high inflation, high unemployment and a slowing economy.
So it's like a triple dagger, right?
So it did affect the markets in a negative way.
However, back then we did not have crypto.
And if crypto does what it was designed for to be that hedge, I believe at some point we would see crypto turn out to be a massive winner.
So what do we think? Do people not? Do people pile into Bitcoin first?
Like, where does the money go?
So if Bitcoin is seen as a safe haven or a store of value, I do think the money will flow into Bitcoin first.
Yeah, interesting.
Yeah, I mean, I kind of want to open this question up for everybody.
Like, where do we think if like what happens genuinely to the economy?
Where does the money flow if we do get a cut, whether it's 25 or 50 basis points?
Where does the money actually flow into?
Sunny, do you think it comes into crypto first, into Bitcoin,
or where do you think it goes?
Well, if the goal or the primary thing that is causing
or is the argument for rate cuts is jobs.
I suspect it will flow to whatever enables that to kind of recover first, right?
Like, I don't know, that seems like the primary thing people are basing their predictions off of what the Fed will do.
So if that's the goal, I mean, I think that's where hopefully it will go first.
We'll get some people, the economy will spark back to life.
People will be getting employed and then more investments, access to capital.
I don't know where that capital will go.
Will people get loans from banks or I mean, that's where people get capital right now.
So it will be fiat first.
And then I don't know.
I think we'll definitely see capital trickle into crypto because it's at least Bitcoin is being promoted as a one of the best
safe haven assets. So I think we'll see like what Nat said. First, an initial flow into Bitcoin,
people who once they get access to low interest rate capital, they're going to want to put some
of that somewhere and diversify their portfolio into this digital network that is really taking the news and the media by storm.
And then I think a are looking for concrete,
public ways of distributing information. Like I mentioned earlier, the GDP data is now being
published on chain. I think we're going to continue to see those trends and we're just
going to have more and more attention kind of shifting to this new way of distributing information so that, you know, I mean, ultimately,
I think everybody just wants the best data possible in the most transparent way possible.
So I think it's going to be a combination of all of these.
And I think crypto is an inevitable component to that as we're shifting to it.
Great stuff.
Crespo, I saw you obviously cheering on sunny d what's your take where does the money go
brother yo can you hear me yeah got you so um for me in my own understanding i think it will
basically flow into crypto and when we talk about crypto we know we are talking about Bitcoin and you know
the top rest of them so give me for example the president of the country is
a crypto pro and so do people around him and right now we know that people are
pushing for you know investments and what they would like to know so I
believe if the Fed should cut the rates and the money flows out you know it's
going to flow into capital and every other side.
But people will likely push back to buying all these top assets, you know, holding, trying to invest.
And Bitcoin is actually the number one choice for me, I think, for now in the whole country.
And yeah, that's my own opinion on it.
Yeah, good stuff, Chris. Naboxabox what about you what are you thinking where does the money actually flow like into like actual tokens
bitcoin like the blue chips what are you thinking yeah i think um once there will be a rate cut, I think the money went straight into the crypto.
Typically, the first reaction is in bonds and ratios since institutions immediately reposition for lower yields.
Equities usually follow as lower rates make risk assets more attractive.
So especially tech and growth names, I believe that crypto tends to come into play once investors move further out on the risk curve.
But the interesting shift is that the lag has been shrinking.
So unlike in the past cycle, I believe crypto today is viewed as much faster liquidity outlets, which may not be very first stop for the investors.
It's likely to see inflow sooner than many expect
so we've already seen such a good uh pump in bitcoin from 16 000 uh in the past beer market
and now it's over 120k we are seeing higher highs in almost every week so industry is growing and
institutions are adopting bitcoin the industry is growing rapidly so are adopting Bitcoin. The industry is growing rapidly.
So we are looking forward to it and expecting the altcoins to pump sooner than many expect.
Yeah, great stuff.
I mean, yeah, really, really valuable insight.
I hope everybody here is kind of paying attention because these are the people that are essentially on the front line dealing with this stuff and paying attention very, very closely to these numbers, to these decisions,
these timelines, and essentially what happens. And we talk about follow the money all the time,
right? It's all about follow the money. Like where is the actual like smart money going?
And that's a big deal. That is a very, very big deal. Indeed.
Yeah, great stuff, Nabox. Appreciate it, man.
Okay, you guys know what I like to do. Fact or fiction time. I give you guys essentially one forward-looking statement.
There's no right or wrong.
You guys tell me if you believe that it is fact or fiction.
Again, the point of fact or fiction is so we can essentially let the audience kind of
in on a really quick, simple, easy way to kind of get inside your heads, right? Like what you and
maybe your protocol are actually thinking, how you guys are looking at this. And once I give
you the statement, you then tell me if it's fact or fiction. If you want to give a quick explanation
as to why you chose fact or fiction right after a quick 10, 15 seconds, please feel free.
But we go speed round with this.
All right.
So, DeForce, you're up first.
You ready?
Here we go.
Fact or fiction.
The Fed has no choice but to cut rates this month.
Fact or fiction?
I would say that's a fact.
The economy just needs that everyone expects it that's the the way money works in 2025 so there's no point in fighting it at this point
I mean if you are in the Fed if you are in crypto then you support Bitcoin and you don't have any
cuts you don't have any uncontrolled inflation,
that's a different story.
But for the Fed, yes, they have to play the role
that they built around themselves.
Good stuff. Let's go.
Kaczynski, crypto reacts much quicker to Fed cuts
than stocks do. Fact or fiction?
I think so. I think it's fact because people will you know it will
give more real resilience and creep just so people will start like buying crypto and it's easier
basically to move crypto right it's more I would say manipulative than stocks and that's why it will react faster
and react higher than stocks let's go love it trav rate cuts make the dollar much weaker
and that's going to boost btc adoption fact or fiction
fact let's go okay i like it i like it i like it um but yeah i mean it definitely makes the
dollar weaker as far as boosting btc adoption i don't know but i guess we're uh we're we're
gonna see bitcoin's got some really good adoption as of right now so let's see if it cooks good stuff um crespo stable coin inflows are
they're going to be the number one sign of real liquidity fact or fiction yeah facts big time
facts because we are seeing the the what's going on lately, stablecoin higher in market cap, the total market cap, the big flow in Ethereum and also in Tron.
So I believe, yeah, stablecoin is going to go more higher in it and it's going to show way big.
Let's go.
Nat, a 25 basis point cut is already baked into the market. Fact or fiction?
Oh, fact.
Fact.
That's the reason why we've been pumping higher.
It's been pricing these things in.
Let's go.
I love it.
DeForce, here we go.
DeFi trading volume always spikes and will continue to spike despite a rate cut.
Fact or fiction?
I would say it's a fact.
The adoption is there.
There's no reasons for us to believe that the trend will do the opposite
of what is shown so far.
So big time bullish on crypto, centralized exchanges, volumes, and also DeFi volumes, especially.
They're really growing, and I don't see any point in the near future where they would invert this trend.
Let's go.
Bonavie, here we go.
This cycle is guaranteed to be much stronger than 2019 uh than 2019 through 2021 bull cycle
fact or fiction um so i'll go with uh well i'll go with fiction for that one okay can expand
for that one okay can expand
okay guys so this is the ongoing um the rate courts and the economic situation so
i believe that that it won't be as as big as the 2019 one that's all i can say
big as the 2019 that's all i can say okay i like it i like it i like it um who we at devair are you
here yeah i'm here all right let's go bro here we go fact or fiction if inflation comes in hot
crypto is gonna dump really hard fact or fiction that's pure facts though I guess
we shall see yeah god you wanna you wanna expand go for it we are not so
different from the economy so whatever affects every other person actually
affects us so So, yeah.
Let's go.
All right.
Who else didn't I get?
Who didn't I get?
Let me see.
Okay, I think we pretty much got everybody.
Sunny D, I got one more.
Actually, I got a couple more for everybody.
Let's go back around.
Meme coins are the wildest bet in a cut cycle.
Sunny D, fact or fiction?
Wildest?
I'm going to say, you know, sometimes people do act irrationally.
So I would say it's the wildest.
It's people really taking a big bet. There's also something else that I wanted to mention is
I've been speaking with people in their 60s and there's like an awareness of
social security or yeah, the social security becoming insolvent at some point. And it seems as though a lot of the
talking ads are like on mainstream media are talking or making Bitcoin price predictions.
And I've been hearing a lot of people that are like entering the retirement phase,
considering and becoming more financially literate as they have more time. And, you know,
they aren't the boomer and the baby boomers are now have more time on their hands. They're becoming a little more
financially literate. They've just been working and, you know, paying for their real estate and
stuff. And they're now considering and learning more about leveraging assets they already have
to acquire more assets. And because of the
potential insolvency of social security, some of the folks that I'm in my circle that are older
are considering, given the predictions and the historical increase in value of Bitcoin,
to leverage their current assets now so that in five or ten years,
the Bitcoin that they purchased now could replace their Social Security.
That's been an interesting observation in the conversations I've been listening to with the older demographics.
Yeah, great stuff, Sonny. That's really good insight.
It's going to be, yeah, the older demo is going to be really interesting to see.
Who knows where the hell Social Security ends up, where the money's at.
Do they actually have enough to genuinely pay out?
But, yeah, interesting.
When you say, where are you meeting the older demographic?
That's what I want to know.
You hanging out in the nursing homes or what's the deal?
Not nursing homes, but people that are retiring.
My father's generation, they have six brothers or five brothers and sisters.
And they're all kind of retiring around the same time.
And I'm noticing whether it's at the family dinner table.
That is even at some of my friend's house when I go there and I'm kind of just listening into the conversations their family are having and comparing them and contrasting to the ones that my family are having.
They're, you know, 60 is like the new 40 is kind of the vibe.
And so they're anticipating living longer than, you know, previous generations.
And they also have acquired, you know, they have, they spent their whole life building
a 401k.
They spent their life acquiring, you know, houses.
And they kind of grew up in that time period where it was
affordable to do so, it was affordable to go to college, they got good jobs. And so they're
getting ready to live the next 20 or 30 years of their life, expecting that maybe some of these
things like social security aren't going to actually be there.
So they're coming to terms with that. They're getting a little more entrepreneurial in their
thinking. And it's also just a kind of exciting to invest. And I think in terms to the original
question, facts or fictions of memes, I think the flow is going to be first Bitcoin because it's
just the most sound. It has the most publicity. It's the simplest to
understand. Then as we saw, 401ks allow for cryptocurrency investments. So I think a lot
of the top cryptocurrencies that have the most viable statistics and KPI metrics and delivery
yield are going to be next. And then I think as we see altcoin pumps,
the younger generations will be more likely to gamble on those meme coins. And I think we will
see activity in meme coins. So I would say it's a fact, or to the original question is meme coins
are going to be the wildest thing because one, they're a little unpredictable. Two,
culture really matters in this day and age and the virality of it. And then the potential to get financial gain off of catching these cultural trends is going to be an opportunity when capital
raises the altcoin prices, raises Bitcoin prices, and people who have been in a little bit longer
now have more expendable income because of those early investments, because we've been here since
2015, 2017, 2021, we're more likely to take on more risk. And given that we're in this
crypto Twitter culture, have more aptitude to be able to predict these virality
and meme coins. Hey Dave, I want to add something real quick. Hey, thanks for that lecture.
But I want to say one thing that's going to be sad to say for some people to hear,
but I'm hoping that the boomers don't last as long as you're saying, because they are the
generation that are keeping us trapped with their trap
captured minds in this system of control.
So I'm kind of hoping that doesn't happen.
He's like, yeah, F the old people.
So screw the nursing home and yeah, take that to the banks.
That's your boy right there.
Oh, no, I'm not telling you. I. Oh, no, I'm not saying screw them.
We kind of need them to step aside
and stop controlling everyone else
with their ideologies and their mindset.
They can live.
Just go over in the corner.
You're on the downtrend now.
You had your life.
You profited off all of our backs already.
So kind of move aside
and let us move the world forward
the way we see that it should go.
That's all.
You know, Nat,
I know you're only 25,
but, like, what do you make of this?
Like, what the hell?
I mean, if I tell my Latina mom
to move aside,
you guys will never, ever hear from me again.
So there's that.
She's got a point.
She's definitely got a point. B economy talk to me man what do you
think do we think like if if is this could be like but could we see maybe a potential like bull trap
right like it like is it automatically programmed like if we cut 50 basis points
are we seeing instant bull run or any variation there that we should be maybe scared of and watching out for?
Well, tough question, Dave.
Interesting.
I do think that if we get 50 BPS now, we'll see a lot of activity.
Hard to gauge the range of it.
If it reaches mania and keeps going too fast, then we should have a spike
in inflation that might be scary. But I do believe that that's not what we're expecting.
We're seeing a lot of positive signs coming our way. And unless anything really bad, like
structural bad, like happened in the last cycle that could cut it short, we should have smooth sailing from now on.
So I would expect more of like regular growth, even if we have a few spikes, it's great to see those.
And actually that's what made traders smile, have their smiles from year to year.
But I'm hoping for the ups and downs, more ups and downs from here to at least a few months
forward yeah volatility that's the name of this game now what do you think 50 basis points are
we is it maybe bull trap what do you think the market does obviously volatility but where do
you think we go yeah so context matters right so if they're cutting a 50 basis point because the economy is going to shit, right, then definitely.
And we see the market pump off that, then it can possibly be a bull trap.
Interesting.
It's going to be.
Yeah.
When is that?
When's the meeting?
It's next week.
Yes, it is.
Hold on.
Let me pull up the schedule right now so i can tell you
guys the exact time and date of this meeting um one second it is a wednesday september 17th at
2 p.m all right i guess uh you know we're gonna have a lot to talk about obviously like next
thursday and see like what's what. So we're going to be.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Good.
So I've been on different spaces with other investors and the vast majority of us were hedged going into this. So hedge means that we're bullish, but we're also cautious just in case it goes the opposite way.
We can profit off the downside and not completely lose our gains. Because you never know what's going to happen next week. And it is such a pivotal moment in
the economy that it can literally go either way. Great stuff. Nabox, chime in here, man. What do
you think? Does rate cut automatically mean like, I guess it's the thinking of rate cut equals bull
run, maybe like too simplistic um just given
today's market well uh right now i already call it an early stage of recovery with a caution tone
um some of the building blocks for a bull cycle are in place the fed is leaning toward riskers
the dollar has started to soften and liquidity conditions are slowly improving
so that's that's pretty supportive for risk assets in general um including bitcoin um ethereum and
other altcoins um at the same time the macro picture is not fully clear for uh us employment
is like ticking higher so global growth is uneven and inflation is not completely behind us so those risks keep
investor careful which explain why gold prices remain strong even as bitcoin and ethereum are
climbing people want exposure to upside but they're still hedging against the uncertainty
so i wouldn't call it that um it's time to be too cautious but yes uh be careful i't call it that it's time to be too cautious, but yes, be careful.
I'd call it a major transition phase.
Risk appetite is coming back.
Liquidity is improving, but investors are still balancing between safety and growth.
So if easing continues and the global slowdown is not to sever, this could gradually evolve into a full bull market.
sever this could generate gradually evolve into a full bull market but at the at this stage
it's more about steady rebuilding than about offending so i would say there are a lot of
liquidity in gold equities and bitcoin itself and we may see some huge bump in the odd coin in the
coming months because there's a lot of money in these
industries already and people may shift these investment from these assets to altcoin so we
may see some big things coming up in the next few months great stuff yeah I'm just yeah this has
been really really good insight so far guys I'm really liking this I'm just yeah this has been really really good insight so far guys I'm really liking this um I'm just yeah let me let me kind of go around d4s where are you at um what do you what are
you thinking with uh rate cut equals bull run um are we thinking too simplistic or what
well I mean crypto has proven to be one of the very first kind of us that people look at when there are rate cuts when
there's inflation you know we used to talk about inflation before it was a trendy topic in in crypto
now everyone knows about it and everyone you know even my grandma knows that Bitcoin somehow is a edge to inflation uh so yeah i i would say uh rate cuts means bull run to a certain
degree you know at least new all-time high for bitcoin and and you know and then we shall see how
the alt season plays out but i'm bullish as as always really like we're here for the long term
and the long term is much more bullish than
the dollar or the fiat currencies at least so that's for sure to me good stuff yeah
bonavit chime in man what do you think rate cut bull run um or uh hold on uh hold the phone type
of deal okay so um i think that um even with with quotes on the table deal okay so I think that even with it's
caught on the table it's dangerous to think that we're going to be strict
line blue why because I think the backdrop today is very different from
past easing cycles we are dealing with heavy fiscal deficits which are rising
with a massive political tensions and an increasing, on setting regulatory climate for crypto.
So I think those factors can easily weigh against the bullish narrative.
So that's why I think there's a real risk of the fake liquidity boot trap
where markets for the idea of rate cuts up hard on expectations,
but then get slapped down when deeper macro risk show up.
So in that sense with
cost equal to bull run in quotes i would say is is too simplistic for this environment liquidity is
only one side of the equation so let's say trust stability and police and policy direction matters
just as much so yes costs can fire momentum but the quality of liquidity is what matters
momentum, but the quality of liquidity is what matters.
If it's hot money chasing
quick gains, then they can
buy fast.
So then a strong
bull run is more likely
with ROWs and more sustainable
flows. Thank you.
Good stuff. Thanks, Bonavit.
Kaczynski, you want to chime in?
What do you think? Give us your final take on rate cuts equals bull run. What do you think?
because of the news, right?
Because we are pumping right now
due to the expectation of the race guys, right?
But I feel like after the Salden News event,
we will, you know, stabilize on some levels
and then we'll, you know, increase gradually in the price.
So, yeah, that's my opinion.
All right, let's go.
Yeah, I mean, I feel like it was good insight all around um i i like it
um good factor fiction segment kind of give us some good insight into kind of where you guys are
like how you guys are looking at this seems like everybody's kind of on the same page
it's this this indifferent cautiously slash cautiously optimistic phase or take where everyone's just kind of watching this really, really closely.
Yeah, no, no, great combo all around, guys.
Biconomy, everyone waited for the alpha to the end of the space.
So you got something for us?
You got some output for us?
What do we got?
Well, we'll have a special invitation for everybody here,
but I'll give the comments that I was just writing down to add.
Throughout the year, we had a really, really exciting early start to the year.
It felt like in February, it paused and everybody is kind of
waiting. There's a lot of energy, latent waiting to come into the market. And man, over those six
months, we spoke with so many funds and investors in these large conferences. There are all kinds
of different pieces. And I heard that so many of them focus on meme coins. I think we're going to
see some cool inflows. I would bet that the whole
crypto market is going to grow a lot over the next three months or so, three to four
months. But I wanted to invite everybody to come to Bycognitive.com to get a fun trading
experience there, both futures, spots, earning products. But the outplay is we just listed sun so go there and check the three charts are all right
i like it um give us the uh give us the opposite in case anybody didn't hear uh by economy has officially listed um the sun token um so it's gonna be
yeah i mean timing could be really good we get that we get a nice rate cut um maybe some money
does flow into into a lot of these memes um any additional um like are you guys running any like
yield campaigns or or anything like that for uh for for sun like
for like deposits or or anything else like what what else can we fill the community on by economy
we're regularly launching this uh there's a user journey for new accounts for different
uh account tiers you can check their inside section in there to see the yields trx is
there signs come in um so it's just come there and you see the charts uh sudden it's trading well
already i've been seeing the the volumes going through these days so ready to welcome everybody
let's go good stuff so i know uh trav you two you you guys are big Sun holders. I have a small bag of Sun as well.
Where are you guys at?
You liking this whole listing?
Where do we feel?
I saw there was, to date, there was, I don't know, something like 60 or 70 million tokens
burned so far for Sun.
Where are you guys at?
Bro, the more access to Sun, the bigger my smile gets day by day.
You know, D and I have been holding Sun for a few years, and it's one of the DeFi tokens on Tron.
Everybody knows where Tron is positioned.
Sun is going to get the eyes of big VCs and big capital eventually.
They're going to see it.
There's a constant burn in place.
It's the token that backs the meme
coin economy on Tron. It just has
so much use case. It's
used for the governance of the
sun.io platform,
which is most of the DeFi on Tron.
It's a golden ticket
in the Tron ecosystem.
Let's go. Sunny D, you want to chime in?
Good shit, Trap. Yeah, something I like to remind people about is ticket in the tron ecosystem let's go sunny d you want to chime in good shit trap yeah something i
like to remind people about is uh how cake on pancake swap performed last cycle um that's kind
of that's kind of how the sun is is set up uh i mean like trap just kind of went over it pretty
simply like uh sun swap is the major swap on tron it's also what
the sun pump platform runs on and the more activity we have coupled with a bunch of
initiatives if you look the sun sun swap website has been refreshed it's very clean, easy to find all the information, whether it's campaigns or the burns or what's the other thing?
It's right on the top.
It's just well put together.
Oh, the referral.
There's like a 20% commission referral program that everything is set up and ready to go.
It's looking great.
It's functioning.
The burns are happening
um yeah they've burnt a substantial amount of the sun token and that's going to continue and as more
uh transactions happen on the sun pump platform the more that that token is going to be bought
back and burnt so uh when you think sun uh reflect on Cake and what happened with that big time.
Let's go.
Yeah.
Cake was cooking, man, on Binance Smart Chain.
So, yeah, good stuff.
And shout out to the Sun Pump team, man, for putting this together.
Obviously, like still pushing this whole thing forward, this, this Tron ecosystem. I'd like to think that, you know, us here in these spaces, really getting,
like, the insight gives, like, really, really great analysis as to kind of where we are and
where we're going and maybe hopes, you know, hopefully maybe shape some moves. But yeah,
guys, give me maybe your, like, let's go around, maybe give me your closing thoughts,
how you guys are maybe either positioning or what you feel or maybe just your final take and uh on the overall market and
then we'll uh we'll we'll cook we'll cook out of here um g force give me your closing thoughts man
and thank you for joining us today well thank you guys for hosting this in the first place so
uh you know keep following the economics uh in general in the
world especially in the us uh rate cuts are bullish for crypto and we should expect them
because that fiat works they cannot stop it and uh you know recognize where the value is in crypto
whether it's meme coin defy check the latest updates enjoy the space you know earn your yield bring
home the bread and just have fun in the space and keep attending these spaces for sure let's go love
it bonavi thank you uh deforest bonavi go for me give us your closing thoughts
this was a very interactive session and i gained a lot. So I just want to say that, like the other guy said,
let's keep keeping an eye on the market and definitely on the safe havens,
like such as the BTC and ETH.
And I'm hopeful, you know, to play at 12 also.
You got it, sir.
Nabox, thank you, man.
Great insight today, dude. Thank you so muchox, thank you, man. Great insight today, dude.
Thank you so much for obviously coming through and giving us the insight.
Give us your closing thoughts on this general market and maybe this space.
And yeah, we'll go from there.
All right.
Thank you so much, Dave.
A big thanks to Sanpam Mame for the invitation.
And it was such a wonderful discussion with all these wonderful guests
um um i believe that the audience member would have got some exciting and great knowledge
deeper knowledge of this um industry and what is going to happen in in this month and the coming
months so yeah once again thanks for having us today um it's been a great discussion rate
customer eyes fresh liquidity,
but adoption and fundamentals will decide what really lasts.
So excited to see how crypto and markets evolve from here.
But yes, be cautious and always invest the money
that you can afford to lose.
So don't invest just because of the news.
Be cautious and stay healthy, drink water.
Thank you so much for the invitation
you got it he said dj go touch some grass drink some water stay hydrated um that's actually true
i probably don't even get enough like h2o intake you're right yeah i gotta i gotta i gotta up my
h2o intake what the heck um thank No, Dave, that's a big mistake.
Dave, don't try to get your water by drinking it.
Get your water from fruits and vegetables.
Drinking more water only flushes more vitamins and minerals out of your body because the water is dead.
It's stripped of all its natural minerals. So you get your water, you get hydrated by eating more fruits and vegetables.
Damn.
Listen, I am no health expert,
but if I just look at Trav's PFP,
I'm taking that advice.
I'm not playing games.
Thank you, Trav.
Biconomy, give us your closing thoughts, man.
Thank you again for joining the space.
And congrats again, obviously, on the Sun Partnership
and obviously listing the token.
We greatly appreciate you, man.
Give us your thoughts.
Thank you for inviting us, Dave great great discussion congrats thank you everyone for
sharing um i would my suggestion for everybody is just be ready to make your move and this means
get familiar with your favorite platforms come to my friend.com go to sun.io spend time there
just come to my friend.com go to sun.io spend time there see how each feature works
get ready to move fast and even ai if anybody here is already playing with ai agents that's
great it helps you to analyze a lot of data a lot of information pretty fast and if markets are
moving fast there's a lot of opportunity just to be there on the charts. Let's go. Appreciate you, man. Thank you. Nat, thank you again for coming. Very much appreciate
you. Give us your thoughts on all this. Yeah, great space overall, guys. Next week,
as I said, next week is going to be a very pivotal week, not only for the markets, but for the
economy as a whole. The Fed, they have a very big decision to make but um besides that
guys you know there's a lot going on in the world just remember to be kind and to be mindful right
you never know what someone else is going through true facts um and yeah man we didn't we didn't we
really discussed the whole charlie kirk thing from yesterday but um man my are obviously condolences
would go out to him as i mean to his family and his
wife his kids and that should that that has no place out here um we do this because you know
or we're able to do this because of the shit that charlie was talking about and the ability that he
just had to just even talk about the stuff that he was talking about, right? This is not what we do, at least here in this fucking country, is to start shooting people like this.
So, yeah, Nat, I second that.
You never know what somebody else could be going through.
So be mindful of the stuff you say.
Be respectful of, obviously, everybody.
But, yeah, great stuff, Nat.
um trab give me your closing thoughts my bro and then we'll go to sunny d to close us out
Trav, give me your closing thoughts, my bro,
and then we'll go to Sunny D to close us out.
man another great space as always dave i love the conversation here i'm glad we had a lot
of strong speakers today i hope people keep coming up and showing up every thursday like
i love this space this is my most favorite space uh in all of crypto and i hope we keep cultivating
it and growing our audience here.
You know, everyone who's newly coming into this market deserves good quality conversations and information.
And I think that's one that's something that we do here.
Absolutely, man. Thanks. And again, thanks. Obviously, all the speakers.
Sonny D, give me your closing thoughts, man, and then we're going to get out of here.
Yeah. So I'm thinking compartmentalization.
In today's world on social media, we are flooded.
Yesterday's event was, I think, kind of shocking, such a prominent figure.
And then beyond that, just even the recent drama of the past two weeks of, you know,
world liberty and just watching the conversations that are happening, it's easy to kind of get
distracted and locked into the wrong things.
I think paying attention to what you're paying attention to in blocks of time throughout
your day, make sure you're compartmentalizing for specific tasks and objectives so that you can make sure that you don't get swept away with the onslaught and waves of just people attempting to capture
your attention, whether it's a big corporation with advertisements, whether it's futters,
whether it's just people that are unhappy and kind of just like letting that leak onto online,
it could distract you from being prepared.
So I think going into this like volatile time and uncertainty, I think compartmentalizing and clear, making your objectives and goals very clear. Some of those, I think, are at least in
this ecosystem is, and like Biconomy said, is prepare, learn your platforms, go onto the SunPump page, go onto all of these different
ecosystems, whether it's BitTorrent, learn the ecosystem, because when people do come here
with a wave of adoption, there's going to be a lot of people who have a lot of questions.
And a lot of people in your real life are going to have a lot of questions,
and you're going to want to be knowledgeable and be able to reply and help them swiftly.
So, yeah, I really resonate with the eat vegetables and fruits, drink some water if you're extra dehydrated and compartmentalize your day so you're not getting washed around by other people trying to pull your attention and so you can achieve your goals.
Let's go, Sonny D. Appreciate you, brother.
Guys, another amazing space.
Thank you, everybody, obviously, for joining.
You know how we do these things.
Next Thursday is going to be even more eventful because obviously that Fed rate cut is going to come in on Thursday.
So markets are going to be crazy up until then.
And who knows what happens right after.
So we're going to see what's what. And Burger, appreciate you putting this together as always.
And shout out to the Sun Pump team for congrats, obviously, on the listing. Guys, go check out
Sun Pump. Get involved. Go check out Bikonomy and everything they got cooking over there.
But yeah, that's it for us here on Thursday. Sun Pump, Sun Flash Spaces. We will see you guys
next week.
Peace.
Bye guys.
Bye everyone. Thank you.
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