I'm actually going to come up, feel free to request. Other than that, we are probably
going to get started pretty soon. I might just tweet this out real quick. But holy, back to
backspace, is anyone enjoying this today? We're running the spaces gauntlet. We have right
now, it's just you, me, you got Marston coming up. Let's go. That being said, probably wait
a few more minutes. Hope everyone is having a wonderful Wednesday, of course. Up here
in Canada, it is actually a beautiful day, which is quite rare, to be honest. It's usually
snowy and cold and lame, but not today. Not today, where I'm having a good day. Jin, how's
the weather over in St. Catharines? Right on. Marston? Marston, what's going on? What's
going on over in Waterloo? Where are we mined? Where are we mined for all the talented developers
at Waterloo University? Damn! Oh my god. Oh, that's not the first. Everyone listening,
Canada is the vote for weather, but not today. That being said, we might as well kind of
get the ball rolling here, as we continue to run the spaces gauntlet today. Essentially,
what we've been doing at Jackal over the last week, we had a big chain upgrade, which
was, Marston was out yesterday, two days ago. Ouch. Do you want to kind of explain to
the community, like we can kind of talk about the bandwidth issues and why storage networks
are hard to scale in general and why we're crushing it. I think that would be a good
Marston? Marston, can you hear me? It seems like, yeah, I think that everyone can't hear
us. Like looking at my screen, it's just me that's speaking and you guys are both listeners
all of a sudden, classic Twitter. Can I get a thumbs up in the crowd if you can hear Marston
or Jayden? Bell, can you hear Jayden? No. Okay, we got a break. Okay. Yeah, no thumbs up
for you. No thumbs up for you, Jayden. Okay, if you guys want to kind of leave and come
back, both Marston and Jayden, we're kind of cooked here. I can hear both of you, but
on my screen. Oh, oh, Jayden, you come back. I'm going to invite you guys to speak again.
This is wild. This is insane. Okay. It's like musical chairs. It's musical chairs for
your Twitter spaces. It's because Elon knows we're running the gauntlet. Jayden, he's
trying to throw sticks in our spokes right now. This is tough. Marston's gone. Hopefully
he comes back. Oh, he back. Now you're just a speaker all of a sudden. Jayden, let's
give it to you. Marston, I can't begin the audience. Thumbs up for Marston. Speak.
Oh, my Twitter is just drugging us right now. No, okay. Yeah, no thumbs down all around.
You're getting, yeah, you're voted off the island again. Should we just restart this?
Oh, Jayden's requested coming back. Winnie's coming up. We're on Twitter timeout. Hey,
can you hear me? Maybe the problem is they're mics. I just requested to speak so you can
check if the problem is them and not. Yeah, I don't know. Marston keeps getting kicked
like that. I can hear you. I can hear you too. Okay, so then it's so odd. Anyways, Marston,
you're like now a listener on my screen again, but you're still able to talk. Winnie can
probably hear you now, which is crazy. This is gonna be, yeah, this is gonna be the most
hilarious recorded space of all time. Like the first 20 minutes. Oh, my God. Anyways,
I'm going to, I'm going to take the podium here because since everyone can hear me, that's
cool. Essentially, we had some bandwidth issues with our blockchain. So basically, our validators
like they have to do so many things with all the different storage proofs that are
going on with the chain to make sure that your files don't go away, right? That being
said, we had some bandwidth scalability issues, which was kind of like slowing down the chain.
The blocks were getting longer and it was getting a little bit more difficult. So to
fix that, essentially what Marston did is he shipped a chain upgrade two days ago,
which everyone had to stay up until three in the morning because the blocks kept on
kicking the upgrade down the pipeline. But that being said, we just got like edX better
when it comes to number one storage proofs. Block speeds seem to be pretty good. Validators
seem to be pretty happy right now with the, with just the bandwidth in general. So that's
kind of like the biggest upgrade that's happened recently. And it seems like it's going
pretty good. That being said, Jane, do you want to kind of kick it off with where our
plans are right now in the kind of outpost stuff? Not really name names of where we're
going, but I think it'd be wise to kind of share what the outposts are, why they
matter, number two, and number three, the value of having like the functionality
locally. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pull a classic out of the online meeting books
here. Can you guys hear me? I can. Horrible that I even have to ask. Yeah, I'd love
to talk about the outpost. Basically, the way that we look at these outposts
right now is decentralized hot storage on L1s that are not purpose-built for
storage doesn't really exist. So what we're seeing is projects that are
building on L1s have to either centralize their storage infrastructure or choose
to build on an L1 like Filecoin like Arweave. Therefore, what we're seeing is
these generic L1s are competing with monolithic storage networks for the
same developers, which is, in our opinion, kind of madness. So what these
outposts are using IBC technology, we're delivering scalable storage cross-chain
to all chains with a simple smart contract call. Essentially, by giving
every generic L1 and L2 the functionality of Filecoin and Arweave
locally, they can stop competing with monolithic storage networks for the same
developers. It's kind of just the interoperability and composability dream,
in our opinion. We're giving you your data when you need it, where you need it.
So I'm full steam ahead with all things outpost. And really, the way that I see this
going is, first, we deploy and we own our own backyard. So all the L1s in
Cosmos that have a meaningful amount of data that they need stored. And when I say
meaningful amount of data, I think of something that's bigger than a tweet in
size. So most L1s. And then after that, beyond our own backyard. So that's when
we talk about potentially using Union to get EVM compatibility or going through
Landslide to bridge over to Avalanche. There's a lot of exciting possibilities.
But in a nutshell, instead of you having to go to a storage protocol, we're
coming to you. And this is pretty cool, right? And that's the benefit of IBC and
why we think IBC wins, right? When you have like this monolithic thesis,
like the Filecoin and Archway, for example, they're competing for the same
developers. And that's crazy because you shouldn't have to choose your stack
just to have like a specific layer that is pretty normal. And that's my
dog in the background, by the way, pretty normal. And kind of the ability for us to
use IBC as a way to get arbitrary data back to the JAKA protocol to like store
deals and like making store files, like update storage permissions have the
ability for you to kind of even do smart contract reading right in the
future. We think this is pretty special. So now every blockchain that has a
JAKA outpost also has all the functionality of JAKA. So instead of trying to compete
with these blockchains, we can actually just deliver the value to them locally.
And yeah, we think that that's why IBC wins. Like every IBC connected chain can
now just have all of JAKA locally with a simple smart contract call. And you
can start to think about like the different verticals you can start
building into, right? You can start building, obviously, like buzzword buzzword
like AI, ML use cases. I know B is working hard on our like retrieval
augmented generation framework. Essentially what this means is, yeah, we
should probably talk about RAG and we've had a few chats about RAG in general.
But essentially, like if I am JAKA, like JAKA Labs, if we want to have like an AI
that's trained on all of JAKA Labs information, we have two options. Option
number one is we pay like open AI $5 million to fine tune a model. That's
kind of lame and really expensive. So the other option is we build our own
foundational model that has all of our data and understanding at a specific
moment in time. That means that any time after that, like you don't really,
the AI doesn't know that information. That's kind of why like open AI only
has information from 2021, for example, currently until they do another
upgrade. So that being said, there's something called retrieval augmented
generation. And this is something that we're really excited about. And we're
kind of looking to deliver that to Morpheus and some other L1s or L2s
that are kind of focused in the AI space, where you can actually hack an AI
using JAKA in a weird way. So you can run the AI through like self-custodial
and secure vector database, give it all the context that it needs, and then it
generates the response, which is pretty cool stuff. And I know that he's
working really hard on it. He's not here right now, unfortunately. But that's
something that I'm kind of really excited about in general. But that being
said, when we deploy an outpost on a blockchain, you just don't get just
JAKA storage native of like just like whatever the chain does. All of the
apps that are built on JAKA also network on that blockchain as well. So this
is where we started to get pretty crazy, where right now we have four apps. We
have Radiant Beacon, the JAKA dashboard, or JAKA Drive, as we call it,
Stratus. And then we have Amuse that's coming, which is a mobile app.
All of those applications now, if we deploy an outpost on Archway or Sega or
another chain, that means they now have all of our apps too, which is pretty
cool stuff at the end of the day. That's kind of, and that being said, once we
start to kind of build like these AI reg frameworks and all that stuff, that
comes with it, right? It's the whole package. That's the benefit of kind of
taking all the blockchain modules and jamming into a smart contract and
deploying it across chain. It's pretty cool stuff. I probably butchered that,
to be fair. A merchant is probably like going like, no, you should have said
it a specific way, but I did my best. Jayden, what are your thoughts right now?
Yeah, I think with reg in particular, the way that I think about it is we've been in
conversation with AI devs who have just been telling us that open AI is way too
expensive for them, as Pat said. And these devs are outgrowing open AI really,
really quick. Not to mention that that couple million dollar price tag that Pat
was mentioning, pretty much eliminates AI as remotely feasible for a small to medium
sized business who doesn't have 5 million bucks burning a hole in their pocket.
So with this reg framework that he's been working on, the goal is to
enable these small to medium sized companies that
don't have the ability to use AI or train an AI model on their data strictly
because of the price tag, to have access to those tools that are really, really powerful.
And obviously, as we all know, are the future.
Yeah, and just kind of having like an economic way to kind of just hack the
ad and all your stuff. The other thing that we have to talk about is like, we get a lot of calls
from like Deloitte or like the Canadian government, because we get a lot of calls
because we are the data guys. And they're kind of having an issue specifically around the area
of protected data sets. So they want to leverage AI for whatever they want to leverage AI for.
But at the end of the day, they can't right now. Because when you use the open AI API,
or any like it can be barred, it could be like, what's the other one? There's rock,
obviously, which is hilarious. When you leverage these and you use the API,
technically, that API now has access to all the data. And there's a lot of laws that say,
no, we cannot provide access to all the data. So kind of using open source AI models,
running it through a vector database that is kind of protected by Jackal, and then kind of getting
responses, some pretty funky stuff. And it's pretty important for a lot of different industries
where they have lawyers have solicited client privilege, health has HIPAA, also like kind of
like things like driver's licenses or personal data, in general, have a lot of laws around that
or all the data can't leave the country or leave a specific geographical region. So
we're working on all kinds of unique things in that vertical right now as well. But kind of
first things first, it's these outposts and kind of deploying those, having the ability for
people to kind of have all the functionality of Jackal locally with a simple smart contract call
is a lot better. You don't have to make any sacrifices and you don't have to move your app.
It's cool stuff at the end of the day. Jane, what do you want to talk about?
What else do we have going on right now? We have all that obviously, like, we're working on
like centralized exchange uplift things and all those things and market makers and all that
wonderful stuff. What do you want to talk about?
I don't know if I'm a good representative to answer that question. We've been
hearing each other's voice for now going on 80 minutes straight.
So I'm thinking to myself, there's no chance anybody wants to hear us talk.
Yeah, well, good thing we have a question. Jacob, what's up?
Hey, what's up, guys? Glad I was able to catch you guys. Sometimes I'm busy on the time.
But I just want to ask, how hard is it to build, let's say, for example, I want to build a video
app kind of like a video streaming app and utilize Jackal. How do you advise someone to go out and
do it that way? Yeah, of course. Of course, streaming is interesting. And we actually have
a grant right now in for like that streaming toolkit for like that to actually be usable on
Jackal. Right now, like in its current state, it's kind of like bucket storage, just like parking
space and put your data there. And when you need it, you can kind of go get it like kind of like
a Dropbox, kind of similar to how Dropbox isn't very good for streaming video. That being said,
I know that we have we have a student at Carleton University up here in Canada that applied for a
grant that we're pretty close to accepting right now, if I'm being honest with you, that gives you
the functionality to do streaming, which is pretty cool. I know Marcin can explain a lot better than
I am, but he's gonna have an issue with Twitter. So Jane, do you have anything to add on that?
No, I think it's a it's a phenomenal glove fit use case.
Um, yeah, the I don't want to say the issue, but the opportunity is is that there's only a limited
number of hours in the day that we have. So we're really trying to figure out what is the biggest
bang for our buck, and we can't do everything. So in terms of how hard it is, our devs, I'm sure
can can at least get us set up in point you in the right direction of some resources. But
in terms of, you know, outside of just how how tough is it? Technically, in terms of use cases,
it's it's a phenomenal idea. It's a glove fit. It makes a ton of sense.
Yeah, the way I envision is like, it's not mostly for streaming. That would be part of it. But it's
kind of like, to just have video there. And like people can play it over, let's say the
app is on stuggies. I saw you guys mentioned the ABC contract and like, utilize it in a way with
NFT. So I would say more than it because I'm like, I'm keeping it to myself.
I'm able to find like the team and stuff to get it done. I just want to like know,
like the how hard is it to get it? Yeah, it's definitely 100% doable. And we have like,
we have like the entire architecture diagram, like mocked up, like, so we know what we have to do.
It's just a it's kind of like a question of when not really if. So like right now,
if you wanted to build an app for video on jackal, like the user experience, like in the current
state would kind of be you'd have to download the entire video before it starts. Right. So you'd
have to like kind of receive the entire video, and then the video would start and then you're
going to go right. So it depends like how much do they value decentralization and self custody and,
and like geo distribution and cyber security posture versus like having a good user experience
when it comes to streaming. That being said, we're getting it pretty close to having like that
streaming functionality. It just, it just takes us a little bit more time. But it's doable. Just
the user would have to download the entire video before it starts in this current state.
That's cool. Because I'm close to get the team together to do something like that.
So when I do, I just reach out to guys and I figure it out.
Yeah, it's no bad answer either, right? So if you want to, if you want to come into the
like the discord and just start pinging our devs, feel free. And I'm sure like they have all the
resources, they're probably frustrated that they can't really come up right now. Just because
the beginning of our of our spaces is sort of exploding as soon as Marissa started talking.
But if you want to, if you want to reach out to them in the discord, they can get you set up,
they can give you all the tools that you might need. And then they can kind of walk you through
the architecture that we're looking to be deploying for video streaming specifically.
Yeah, that's dope. You'll see more of the discord now.
Awesome. Awesome. I appreciate it. No, thank you so much for the questions. Feel free to stay
up if you have any others. But Jaden, I'm putting it on the spot. Patrick?
Good evening. Good evening. What's next for us right now? What do you think is like the
biggest thing that you're like most excited for? We spoke about outposts, we spoke about rag.
Is there any other things that are kind of on the horizon or maybe it's even like a subsection
of that or like how they add value? What's your thoughts right now?
Yeah, I mean, I'm still I'm still fired up about Stratus. I think I think now that we've finally
dipped our toes into the web to world and found a use case that somebody is willing to spend money
on. That is something that I've been waiting for since I joined the company a year and a half ago.
And I was waiting for that day for a long time. And now that we have our toes dipped in the pool
for us to be able to leverage that expand across that industry, potentially learn about new workflows
and expand into other industries with similar use cases. That's really, really exciting for me. And
I'm a little bit biased because I come from a web to background prior to joining Jackal.
But I was waiting over a year to get to the stage that we're at now. So being here and having that
use case really excites me. Yeah, that's cool. So for everyone who doesn't know what Stratus is,
so when you look at like when we interview different founders or different applications
or different ecosystems about their values, right? Because when we approach like kind of the
protocols of business, we focus on value. And for web three businesses, they're just like we want
self custody, we want ownership, we want on chain permissions, we want it to be fast, we want it
to be awesome. And we want it to be decentralized, right? That's their values. And that's the core
values of a lot of people in the web three space, right? When we go and we approach web two
companies, they don't really want the whole decentralization thing. And they don't really
even though it's just decentralized by default. But they don't really value that. They don't
really evaluate the self custody and ownership. But what they do value about Jackal is the
geo distributed nature and auto healing nature of the data backups in their case, for example,
right? So what Stratus is, it's like a web 2.5 bridge between Jackal and the real world with
an API use case, plug in the API, and they just start throwing files at Jackal. And the event
they get hit with a cyber attack, or ran somewhere, they're able to pull it down from Jackal,
all their mission critical stuff. So that's kind of that's kind of what that is for people who
don't really understand what Stratus is, it's kind of like a web 2.5 bridge for Jackal.
That being said, like really happy that finally we got someone to pay for it. And
it's actually a cool customer. It's like it's an odd. It is a telecom company in Iowa that was
founded in 1920, 1920, 1920, if they can do it anyway, get kind of where we are right now,
right? But that being said, I don't know. I don't know if we have if you have any other
questions, Jacob, feel free to shoot. If anyone has any questions, feel free to come up. But
if you don't have much, me and Jayden have been talking to each other for a while now. So
yeah, I can ask a few more questions. Yeah, but yeah, so I know like you guys talk earlier,
not today, like another day about smart contract. And I know you guys mentioned that that's not
really one of your guys go, you more kind of like a service kind of like fortune.
And like, what do you, what's that playing along?
Yeah, so the way that we look at like, the, the competitive landscape of web three in general,
right? There's a bunch of there's a lot of blockchains that are just like generic smart
contract blockchains that like, what they do is, is their value is determined by how many devs can
they do, like, get to build on their app on their L1, right? So they do a lot of developer
evangelism, and they compete really heavily with everyone, including the storage networks that
being like Filecoin and AR we, they all compete for the same developers. That being said, like with,
with Jacko, we're gonna we have smart contracts, they're going to be coming to Jacko as well.
So we can kind of build some more apps. But also, we need smart contracts for like the
interchange, for the interchange contracts to work to, I believe. So we're, we need smart
contracts. But the thing is, is that like, we don't really want to compete in that game.
We don't want to compete with other L1s for the same developers. And we don't want to compete with
like, even like, it's a crazy world where you have like optimism on Ethereum and Filecoin,
they're both competing for the same developers, even though they're very, very different use
cases. And they have very, very different value propositions. Data storage should be something
that everyone should have easy access to no matter where you're building. And the concept that you
have to like sacrifice user experience, or you have to sacrifice like centralization, or you even have
to like move your entire application to get access to that critical component of the stack. We think
that's kind of crazy. And just recently, like with IBC technology, what we can do is we can go to
Sega or archway or like any L1 blockchain, build an outpost there. So all of their developers can
just have like such a core component of the stack, just being simple data storage. So us delivering
that that way, so rather than competing for the same developers, we'll just deliver it to them.
And then every blockchain is now a jack of the developer, right? They all have access,
they can all use it when they need to use it. And they can get access to it with a simple smart
contract call, and we can provide value rather than competing. And we're, that's kind of the
that's the interchange approach is the modular approach. And that's why IBC wins in our mind.
Yeah, and I don't know if you guys look into this, with Dow Dow, and kind of like the smart
contract aspect will be kind of amazing to have Dow control front end. That would be awesome.
Like you have a down like the sub that control every aspect of the of the UI and that cannot
present skimming and stuff. So of course, of course. And like that's the other thing. Yeah,
actually, that's one use case of like the smart contract. I've been trying my best to kind of
like get that on my cash. But I don't think there was a smart contract here. But if I see it,
that might be possible. Yeah, it doesn't even have to be like the front end. It can just be
like when you are Dow Dow, from my understanding, last time I was taking a look at it, they have the
functionality for you like upload files, right? The question is where those files stored? At the
end of the day, so like having an ability for us to like build an outpost on Juno or every other
place that Dow Dow redeploys their contract, we would love to be there right beside them and
kind of provide that functionality either locally or doing a cross chain with Dow, depending on how
they choose for their stock to be in the future. It's a no brainer use case. And I'm excited to
to get to the point where we can integrate. Yeah, and if you like push me one thing, I've
been thinking for the longest, I don't know if you, you find that I think Gitopia,
there's like a version of GitHub. I don't know, I feel like maybe in the future where like
everything is on chain, you'll be able to like code on chain, not code on chain,
but like the code controlled by like the actual chain and actual smart contract, actual Dow,
where everything happened on chain. I don't know if I'm making it. No, you are. Like I've been
thinking, I've been thinking a lot about that. It's like, with you guys, Jack holding our
cash, it's like, we're closer to something like that, right? We're really close. We're really
close to something like that. Like essentially, like when you look at what blockchains are,
they're just kind of like, it's a community computer, right? And the cool thing about blockchains
is when you look at traditional companies, it's the company controls the software, right?
With blockchains, the software is actually in control and the company doesn't control the
software. And you can make, you can make commitments to the future, you can have really,
really high cyber security posture, because it's economically invaluable to like attack the
protocol. It's pretty fascinating technology and I'm excited to see where it goes. Obviously,
we wouldn't be here if we didn't believe that this tech stack is just really important for
the future of the software development in general. There was a question I want to make
sure that we don't brush over in the comments here from from CT asking us to do a quick
competitive landscape analysis, in particular mentioning storage. So just to make sure that
we don't forget, I'll jump on that. When we were talking about like, I'll frame this
just in terms of the outposts and just a really simple way to think about it.
We said a little bit earlier that projects are currently having to either centralize their
storage infrastructure somehow, or build move and build on a storage L1 like Filecoin.
Storage in particular falls into the former of those categories. So they send everything to
a centralized server before it gets sent out to decentralized storage, meaning that technically,
they can see everything you upload and cut you off at any time. So again, those are kind of
the two competitive landscapes, you're either centralizing something, or you're choosing to
pack everything up, you know, your community included, hopefully, and build on a Filecoin
or an Arweave. And our outpost model proposes to eliminate both of those scenarios.
Yeah, and it should also be noted that like some of the sometimes in technology,
there's something called the last movers advantage, right? Google wasn't the first
like it wasn't the first search engine, Gmail, or like Hotmail wasn't like the first email service,
right? Amazon was never an infrastructure provider, they started as like a bookstore,
like halfway through, like kind of like the dot com, the dot com bubble. So you can kind of look
at we have a really unique opportunity, where if you look at just like the web3 landscape in
general, how far we've come since those applications were developed, right? They're all still running on
paperwork blockchains. It's all still Bitcoin forks that are kind of tailored a little bit to
storage. A lot of them are still marketplace models where like you have to kind of like
manage your own storage deals and your own encryption keys. The block times can take
minutes sometimes to get your files back, sometimes you can take up to 24 hours and
mostly like have a centralized bridge where they just kind of like jam on your files on
to and then they back it up. So we just have like this wonderful advantage of just seeing
the tech landscape a few years later, right? We have a modular blockchain, we have IDC technology,
we have programmable privacy, we have on-chain permissions, we actually have ownership of the
files rather than just kind of like a service level agreement in like a marketplace type style.
I can go down the list of like everything that we have right now just like feature-wise, but
all those features add up to us like providing like a lot of value for a lot of different
developers and not having to compete and not having to kind of sacrifice different things
to go to market, right? So end of the day, we love all of them. Like Filecoin is great for
like iceberg archiving. ARweave is kind of great for like public archiving of data.
Storage is kind of like a great hybrid of like just getting cheap, redundant storage.
But at the end of the day, like right now, in our opinion, there's really only,
there's only one jackal with the current state and all the feature set and the ability to
actually be an interchange storage layer and deliver value to every blockchain right
now and that's just kind of our thought process.
We got Bella coming up. Can you guys still hear me?
We can hear you. Yeah, I'm just like rambling here. I'm just like doing my daily stand up on
our Mondays, but getting all the boys fired up. You were worried because you were just eating
that silence. I was just, I was thoroughly enjoying that silence. I'm just like, yeah,
like, like, just stew in that speech.
Oh my goodness, Bella, what's up?
We should get some more people. I don't know if there's anybody in the audience that want to come.
Yeah. Can you hear Bella Jacob? I can. I don't know if you could know.
No, Bella, Bella. No, no, it's not even, she's a listener. So anyways,
what Bella was saying, um, I'm going to see if we can get her back up here, but essentially what
Bella was saying was there's only one jackal first and foremost, and she agrees with that statement
and they're going to be launching a muse on the 15th, I think,
on the 15th, on the 15th, but I can hear you, but no one else.
So on the 15th, and this is the first decentralized storage on mobile, which is pretty cool. So any
Android users out in the audience, if you are an Android hardo, we would love for you to try out
the beta and get going or alpha depending on how they want to phrase it and how much trouble they
want to get in. But this is the alpha she tells me I kind of, it's kind of right now I'm speaking
to the audience, but I just have a, I'm a hot mic of Bella in my ear. So if you have anything else
you want me to say. Okay. Okay. Okay. So she is telling everyone that this is the alpha
and it is the freemium version. So everyone gets the two cent plan. Do they have to pay for it?
Or is that being taken care of by a musical? It's being taken care of by me. So free storage
on anyone who wants it. If you have an Android phone and you are one of those hardos that says
the tech is better, feel free to spin out from use. And she also said that iOS is coming out
eventually, but there's a bunch of loopholes that they have to jump through because Apple doesn't
like blockchains. So that's kind of where we are right now. Stay awesome. I really appreciate
both. Thank you for coming out. Um, too bad no one else can hear you, but I really, I really
enjoyed, uh, enjoyed us. Yes. It's just kind of like, yeah, she's just a pigment of my
imagination. Wonderful. Um, yeah. Space monster. Often, often do you guys, often do you guys do,
um, uh, do these every Wednesday at two Eastern time. That's where we are. So it's
every Wednesday at whatever 2 p.m. Eastern time is and you decent. Um, yeah, I mean, I mean,
you started right on. Would you guys be at NFC NYC? Um, Jane, do you want to go to NFT NYC?
When is it? I think between April, the first week of April, we're going to draw it a lot
because we want to go to a consensus and permission us. And then we want to go to
each Toronto and there's a NFT NYC. So, and then there's cause and divorce in Dubai. I'll
just like figure out a quick flight to Dubai. Um, my girlfriend's probably going to break
out with me because I'm never going to be here, but, uh, it is what it is. So you gotta,
you gotta do it for the tech baby. Um, having said, having said, uh, we have a few questions
about, um, Stratos and Jackal, really good question. Um, Stratos, I think I met them once
and I think in each Toronto, um, their CEO, like they were working on this tech,
their tokens on a theory, um, but I think they changed our text track to cosmos, um,
for obvious reasons, cause the, the best data storage protocols are building cosmos. Obviously.
Um, I think, uh, yeah, they're, they're coming along. I don't know if they're live yet though.
So they're, uh, they're kinda, we have a little bit of a headstart, but I wish them all the best
competition is awesome. And, uh, if they're open source, we can, uh, steal all their code
as they need to build. Um, what else do we have going on? Any other questions? Um,
chain of custody in another space, something institutional customers would look for. Yeah.
So the question that was in the comments was about chain of custody of data. And this
kind of goes back to our roots, right? We were trying to build Jackal as a e-discovery
tool for court use. I'm not going to bore you with like the particulars of digital forensic
environments and why chain of custody matters for digital evidence. But that being said,
blockchains are just really fancy magic spreadsheets, right? Um, that are never wrong,
which is pretty cool. So that being said, what can we do with that spreadsheet? We can make
Bitcoin, we can have money, we can do lending and NFTs and, um, DAOs and governance and all
these things. But the other thing that we can do is who has what data at what time in an immutable
ledger, right? We can also layer on encryption into that ledger, which is pretty fascinating as
well, where you can have programmable privacy for your files, programmable privacy for who owns
what data you can send data peer to peer without middlemen. Um, but the important thing
is we have like an immutable chain of custody for a specific file. So for different use cases,
whether it's legal, military, even, um, obviously these are use cases that are going to be way down
the pipeline and they'd have to kind of be comfortable with blockchain technology by the
time they start using it. Unless we abstract it all the way into a wallet or something on those
lines where there's a wallet in the background, they don't understand that they're using tokens,
but they secretly are, but we don't have to tell them. Um, we have the ability for you to have
immutable chain of custody of who has access to what file at what time, which is really important
for internal investigations, legal use cases, digital evidence, all that good stuff. And
that's kind of why we started building this in the first place was for that clean forensic
environment that, uh, super digital forensic nerds care about, but that's pretty much it.
Anyways, uh, from that, you guys all get this wonderful application specific blockchain
for cloud storage that does more than digital forensics. And, uh, that's how we got here.
Jim, I think I'm starting to go a little bit wacky right now.
We've been, we've been in spaces just so everyone knows me and Jim have been running the gauntlet
today. Uh, we were at a space a few minutes ago and now we're about 45 minutes into this space.
Does anyone have any other questions? I'm going to go back to the, uh,
uh, I think that's everything that everyone's asked. If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask
now or forever. Hold your piece until next week, until next week, until next week in
probably be in the discord next week. To be honest, you'd like to alternate between
the two because it's easier to ask questions in the discord because everyone has a hot mic.
So, um, if anyone has any questions, feel free to shoot. If not,
it's probably a good time to shut it down.
Yeah. A lot of new faces here. So I just want to make, uh, make an effort to welcome everybody
and say that we're grateful to have you. And, uh, if there's anything we can do to welcome
you or get you more information on Jackal, please feel free to reach out.
All right. That being said, thanks everyone for coming. Of course,
hop in the discord, hop in the telegram. Um, and do you know what? The most important
thing, just try it. Try out Jackal. It's a working application. You can show up with one cent.
And we will take your one set as protocol revenue and distribute it to those takers.
But, uh, that being said, try it out, please. Uh, it would be wonderful. You can
embrace the euphoric sensations of digital privacy all by yourself.
Um, anyways, it was a great seeing everyone. Thanks again. And we're going to shut this down.