I know we were. No, it's we were it's congratulations. Yeah, we were driving him nuts because he was getting like
365 birthdays a year. So I figured we'd just narrow it down to one day
Yeah, pretty much cuz if that was the case, I mean you're probably what a hundred and eighty-five now, yeah
We were doing trivia in the Wizards discord yesterday and
Someone said they were gonna send me one cadena for every year and I told them I was like
999 thousand years old by now. Oh, yeah, well you shifted gears
Look I'll trade places with you for one cadena every birthday. I'll start getting a happy birthday every day
Well, I think your music's not working again Kevin, I know I started off
I thought well, I'll let it run for one minute and can evidently it didn't
Yeah, I have to do some troubleshooting over there it only plays for me though, like I can hear the music
You guys just can't so I don't know I'd rather hang out
All right. Well, let's give it a few minutes
Ask everyone in here to share the link around send them some telegrams and then some discords tweet it out do whatever send some DMS
Let's get a few more folks in here and we'll kick it off
Yeah, I was the first one to share it man
Look at you. I know everybody in here slacking
Never build a follows music
Yeah, you have nobody to send it to
No, you guys are the clowns who enjoy
Has anybody had any nice weather or is everybody like crappy snow freezing article?
Yeah, man. It's like four degrees out. That's pretty nice
Amir I saw like an aerial video over Chicago and it looked like a freaking zombie
Like I had my shotgun on I was ready to ball, but
Was like this is finally like I finally like I'm ready to go everything's greased up let's go and then it's like oh
Well down here in Florida, we got that crappy premature rain before snow weather
Right now did it like get cold enough to freeze it?
It's still like in the 60s down there, I think
Yeah, I mean it was like 55 today, but tonight it'll drop down to like low 40 mid 40s
Dude here in West Virginia. I've barely been able to drive. It's been getting like below zero overnight. Yeah, forget that BS. Yeah
Hey Hank, what did you what did you think about the
The little prompt but how was it working you guys were spamming I was asleep so I I can't I had no idea if it
Was actually good or bad. I
Mean it's working. It's not bad. It's doing its job for I guess what it
Do you think I should do a different model that does a little bit better images
Yeah, definitely because you saw the images it was creating yeah, I
Have knowledge that something you're gonna implement on
Just your telegram or is that something like you're gonna be like forecasting to like a purchase item
Well, I I don't know. So so the idea was presented as kind of like what another chains doing
And you'll be able to essentially I think probably some of that was in chat, too
Cuz I don't care if people know what I'm doing. I don't care if people copy the code. I really don't
What I'll probably do is finish it and then just open source all the code like I did my discord code
so any of you fucking DJN, sorry about swearing can just take it and and
Copy it and probably use it more than I would anyways, but the idea is what you can do is
In in their implementation they link it to a meme coin and basically to do generations you have to have X amount of
You can either have tokens yourself or you can have like community tokens and if you have tokens you can mint until you run out
Right, and then you just have to add more to the bot, you know via transfer to do that
I think that's pretty standard. That's like a it makes sense like you want to use it
you can generate stuff and so what they do is they do like monthly give you giveaways they do different prizes and then
What I was thinking about doing was doing like a 30-day 30 NFT
Collection so like for this month we're already too late, but let's say we did it for this month
we would generate like the top 30 NFTs and
Say, you know by voting and then whoever wins like there's like a top 10 prize
they may not be glorious things, but there's like a top 10 prize and
What we would do is we would just
Automatically mint all those and send them back to the people who created them essentially and so every month
We create a new collection and basically just like auto. I would make it all
Automated and I already started all those scripts and really just reason just honestly just reuse most of my code that every had
But that was the kind of gist and so it's actually very popular
On other chains and I could see the appeal
I just don't have a mean point and I don't really feel like deploying a coin. I could I could
Just like throw ownership to the owners so I can't change anything and don't really own it and don't take anything out of it
Guess somehow made it somehow manage it
That's an option, but I'm too scared to do any kind of tokens or anything
I certainly won't sell them
Yeah, that's like us like I'm a little bit even when in
SGK like when we were looking at some of the token stuff. We're like right now, man. We're too scared of tokens to
Try to you know create a token something we may do it down the road
By the way, I'm here I really love it. Oh, yeah, I like that. I like that one. I like a little a little no manner
Yeah, it was sick. I love as soon as I got opened it up this morning. I was like, oh my god
You gonna you guys show it off or what I am I am I was actually gonna show it off and tag you and everything
Pulling out on us, huh? Yeah, I had to go kind of do the Fiat factory thing
I had to go make some more money so I could buy some Bitcoin and KDA
Because this huge deal that Bitcoin acts like I'm starting to DCA into it more
Some buttering. I really wanted to go below. I'll see you at 36 35 probably
Yep, that's the number I'm targeting. So I'm kind of holding off
Think it's gonna I think it's gonna dip, you know big investors would jump in and it'll run
Sorry, I know Ron and I were gonna solve it for a minute
We were too busy tagging people attack tagging different people and different discords and stuff. So we're trying to get a few more people in
Yeah, I'm here I try to jump in and watch you a little bit yesterday when you were online
All right, so it's all good I am I actually didn't stream today
I did a recording for a project that I'm working on and I actually burned two hours with some
Anano miss packed error, but
I'm embarrassed to say what it was, but it shouldn't have ever been an error
I guess it's it's one of those things like when you go from
your test environment to live
Certain things break that should break in both places, but they don't
so it's very it's it's it's usually my database operations and
I have a script that runs that creates a database that I verified it ran correctly
But somehow my table just like I was able to rewrite that specific table out of all my tables
I'm like, how is this even possible? Like I don't like I had no errors
I had no reason it didn't work. And so I was troubleshooting a ghost for a while
but I actually made my code a little more efficient, but I'm
I'm done with it down. So it works great and
You'll be able to see the result of it in the telegram bot
It's kind of cool. It's really really cool
Simple but cool. I just went overboard with it cuz you know, why not
That's right. Good enough reason for me
We're on video right now. I mean I I
Know it's like I'll love it because he's just like I wonder if this will work. I wonder if I can do that
So yesterday, I heard the telegram bot
It was like 15. It took me like 15 minutes
to work and then you're like 20 or 30 to fix prompting and
I tried to to make a couple more commands with GPT so I could speed it up
I and it kept giving me like this formatted code. I'm like, dude
I literally said to I'm like you effing like I cussed it out because I'm like I you gotta treat your
Your your your AI assistant like it deserves to be treated and if it's gonna pull stuff like that where you give it perfectly well
Working code and it goes in and changes things that don't work. You're just kind of like, you know
Why do I even waste my time when I could have just copy pasted this and done it in two seconds now?
Some things it does do good. But I feel like lately it's been so useless that if I did rely on it
it would waste my time and
You know like marketing like the stuff I don't care about I throw that in there
I don't really whatever like well, I've got a I've got a I've got a question is something you make an answer or maybe something that you
You know could research. I don't know how we can't figure it out. But
So, you know how an SGK reclaim weapons, you know every seven days for the Gen zeros and every 10 days
for the battle block zeros
We were trying to figure out a way to create a bot to where
Like it would notify people when it was time for them to claim
Because everybody's on different schedules and everybody claims in time
And we almost need like a tracking bot that'll like notify people to go. Hey, it's time for you to claim
Is there a way to do that? Where do you want to notify them?
Whatever is easiest but preferably would be through disco. Yeah, so so do you have their discord info anywhere?
What do you mean? How about like just like you do you have their like their discord ID already?
Think you register that because you would you would probably like if you want to DM them you need that if you want to just put it
In a channel, that's really easy
Well, we've looked about doing it in a channel, but I
Mean and we're we're setting it up to mods now where we've been working on setting it up, but it's I don't think it's gonna
Like if Hank needs to claim can it notify just Hank or does it got to go? I mean, it could probably hit it in a discord channel
Oh, I would like playing that's what we're trying to build it. We can't
Yeah, yeah, I I probably could do it and I always so like if I can do it in a stream
That's probably like the best chance you have of me
Sitting out and doing it. I probably could build it in a stream. It sounds pretty simple now
It's simple because I I've done it like a million times, right? So it's it's not right
It's not simple the first couple times you do it
But you know the the discord bots actually haven't touched them in like three months
I got so many wallet connects because that's what I was using in discord. I'm actually setting up so in telegram
I'm actually setting up a webhook
so what you could do is you can go in there and connect your wallet and
Actually come out of telegram because I don't want to do it in telegram
Like I do in discord with wallets because it's just it's just crap and I got a store session data and all that
And I made it all work and it's probably a better user experience
But look, it's a link you go and links are not my favorite thing in telegram, you think
But I don't really have a lot of choices because we can't get a native wallet for there
But you could go there and you could connect up with any other wallets and establish the session
And then what you could do is you could be like if any of you ever saw my tip bot
Like you could tip people KDA and you just signed the transaction at a tip
And so once you have your session established you could do that and then every time you you know after like a day
You just got reconnect or if the server restarts instead of me trying to persist sessions, which is fine
But not all the wallets support that anyway, so I was finding like koala
Unfortunately disconnects me all the time and so you got to reassess right and so it's like it's a bad experience
And then another wallet flat out just doesn't work and it's like make out why why am I doing this?
And so I'm gonna do it the easy way and so you'll be able to register and that's how like if you are
gonna participate and you want to like feed the bot as
Like a community thing like throw a couple like maybe throw like to kd8 or something and then that gives like 20
I think people would probably be into that. I I mean, it's not like you're it's not like anybody's like making money off of it
I just want honestly just want enough to pay for the frickin subscription like anything else. I don't need money for my time
I just build it myself and have fun with it
I just don't want to keep building stuff where I pay for like
$100 here a month $20 here a month. It starts to add it actually does add up after a while. So it does
We looked at several of those things that we you know, several gigs we could pay for that would do stuff
But it was a monthly fee, but I don't know
I think we're we're working out something now
It's gonna be a channel and it's gonna remind people and it's gonna periodically send out something
Like I said, and I'm sure we probably do have everybody's discord ID stuff because we did the whitelist man
It's you know, we had to look at who held how many and how many free ones they got and so we had to get all
Data, so I'm pretty sure we've got it. But
You know if if if somebody if somebody leaves SGK and sells out their entities and somebody new comes in
You know stay on top of I think for you it can probably
No, but it's I'm delayed. I've always come people out of me today
It it could probably be set up just like the freakin
Verifier box, you know where it hits you in the DMS and then you got to do it in the DM thing
Yeah, I'm trying to see dr. Spriggan and eyes are working on it. They've come up with something
I was trying to get him to explain it to me a while ago. I
Wouldn't quite follow in what they were
recommending so we're gonna look at we're gonna try what they're doing and see how that works and if
If everybody jumps in and says we hate this then we'll shift gears, you know
But you can do a private message in a room so nobody else can see it
Right, you can do like a one-to-one message with a bot and if you wanted to do it easy
You could you could just have everybody go in there have a bot and they just use slash register
they put in their K account and
That K account will go and search if they have any registrations that are due and then you could set that up on a schedule
To notify them in like a private DM or something
They have to be in that channel, but you can do a private message to them in that channel
Okay, that might be an easy way
I mean, honestly that if I were gonna do it and I had like 45 minutes to sit down and do it
That's I would create a I'd actually just go into manga
Create like create a connection into manga
That's basically just K account
They're like so wallet as the key value and then or discord is their key value and then add any of the wallets
They have because if they have different routes, you still want to notify them, right?
So you'd want their discord ID to be their key value and then you would just
Add all their wallets and that's how I do it on
that's how I was doing it on our discord so you could have like 10 wallets or whatever and
Choose which one you want and then like for wall connect it would say it would send to the correct session in case you
Tried to do multiple sessions at once
Okay. Well, I mean at least it sounds like it's doable. Oh, yeah, you just
Just let me know when you guys are ready to dive into it
I just need to see like what your data structures and I could probably give you guys like a
Headstart on like the structural stuff you'll need. That's the rest is just cosmetic how you wanted to display and all that
All right. Well, you guys want to dive into a little bit of a guided conversation. Oh
Absolutely. I thought you'd never ask
Yep, we've been going for about 20 minutes now
Also on the topic of mirror
I'm gonna reach out to you privately and see how much you'll charge us to
Do the wizard tipping bot because I know you've got it figured out for Kadena and it's probably not too hard to flip that over to
Whizzer probably just changing a token address
Well, holy I'll reach out to you about that cuz I know that it costs money to run these kind of things and
And we'll get that figured out. So
I've been trying to guide these spaces a little bit more every week and I hope that we enjoy that
More than kind of just rambling on and whatnot, which is always fun
But you've been trying to you know, actually make sure we talk about things that are important
So what I've been doing is I've been just gathering some things that happen in the ecosystem throughout the week and have a few written down
Now I got to pull this up in my DMS with Kevin cut send it to him
Yeah, I wrote them down. So I was kind of a little bit more prepared for some of them this week
so the first one that I noticed and I've seen people talking about is apparently there is a new project coming to Kadena from the
Cardano blockchain, I think it's called
What is the name of that it's a dog token dog token, yeah
Yeah, it's you guys know what I'm talking about. It starts with a T. It's um
It's like teckle or something like that. But new dog token coming to Kadena
I'm wondering how people feel about that. I know a lot of people think that we need a good meme coin
It might be something to dive into if you can get in early
Can you recommend run that these guys stop deploying these frickin tokens and the free namespace?
Like amateurs like they're just copying bad code and deploying it
it's it's like for me like I'll never buy that stuff like I it's fine if people do but like
Like put like five minutes of effort into it at least like that's maybe that's all I'm saying
What do you do like I like can you still get like the free
Dot whatever names, but you can but we have principled namespaces for deploys so that people can't hijack your stuff across chains
So is it smarter to not do that?
Like are you saying that like you shouldn't deploy with like the ones that are like and under so you should deploy have those
Those are yours. You can you can deploy it on one chain and one chain only
But if you deploy into the free namespace, I mean somebody else can deploy on chain 19 before you do
Like it's it's all right. Just wait for a bot to start doing that at some point a bottle start doing that and
You're gonna get these projects, right?
All right. Well, I'll keep an eye out for that and I was actually just talking to
mr. Adrian from echo earlier about some things and
Maybe I'll follow up with that and say hey, make sure these guys
We have a token generator like I said, it takes like five minutes to copy and create a namespace
It's not it's not like it's a huge ask
No, so this might be a dumb question might be a good one I'm wondering
So Marmalade is just an NFT standard
But you know tokens are also tokens right like an NFT and a token. They're both tokens
there's ones non fungible and ones fungible, so
Marmalade a standard for like tokens too and not just an FTS cuz I always hear about it being talked about with the NFTs
You would go do a supply of a million you can fractionalize those tokens
So you can do like a fraction of one and then so I recommended that for defy
So if you're gonna do defy, it's a really good way to handle it. I would you can store
Yeah, you can use an NFT to be a vault basically a vault control over tokens
But I don't think they're the same thing. I don't I don't
They're definitely different and they have different purposes and I don't think you would want to do like a supply of
more than like a hundred or a thousand of an NFT
it's not really the intended use case for that but
They they do cross over a lot you're not you're not wrong. They do cross over a lot, but they're also very different
Gotcha, what do you think about that? Kevin and Hank you guys think you're gonna jump into a new dog token. I
Don't know I mean, you know depends on the project behind it
But if it's just a meme, I mean, I
Don't know I'm DJ. I'll throw some money
Yeah, Mike Mike, you know grab a small bag, but anything that other than that probably not
Unless there's some really good utility behind it
Yeah, I mean I've jumped in some of those me coins and I still hold some bags
They're not worth much right now, I'm just hoping in the bull it comes back, but I
Don't know. I'm kind of getting a little bit more stingy with my money
They're a little bit more solid return. So we'll see we'll see I love Cordana
So it could even though it's coming from there
Ron I'm waiting for us to start our own me
Yeah, I've thought multiple times about making one you got dollars on Ron about making a dollar sign Mike I also had an idea of making
A new Kadena meme coin dollars dollar sign new K and then any time the Kadena team talks about new Kadena
That's free marketing for us
Absolutely, so I should make one too
I think I might just for our channel for those for when I was talking about earlier
But they'll be no like sale you just I don't know there'll be zero sale of those so
It won't be as fun and lucrative
I'm trying to act like I'm not but I'm all about the means. Okay, there's coins
Like mine if you ever heard my crypto story
I got into dogecoin and I hit like a nice 10x and I was like, holy shit
I never do this in the stock market
and so I was like, let me find some more just shit coins and so I jumped into like finance smart chain and I
Like Kishu Inu and Shiba Inu and stuff like that
Look dude, I was I wasn't big on them
I did buy some doge, but I bought it after the big part
So I still hold them because I still feel like Elon's gonna do something with it down the road
I still kind of hold on to it, especially some of these, you know mining projects, you know, you can start mining though
So if you look at the tokenomics of it, I don't see how it's gonna be all that great
Because they would almost have to burn more than they're selling per day to even make it
But you never know what will happen
But I'll tell you I got I know easels in here
like I really kind of got into the deej and stuff with him and
You know was throwing money at different things
But I I do like means to like I'm really big in a garage right now. I hold some bags of that. So we'll see
Easels the biggest DJ I know he's jumping in everything dude. He is he really is
And I was learning a lot, you know, we lost a couple on a few and then I made a little or two
But it was more edgy. I got drove it. I know I drove it nuts because I was asking like a thousand questions
What does this mean? How do you do that? What do you?
And he was so good and just leave like an answer in my stupid questions
But that's I was learning about the freaking mean coins that way
You know, it's a love-hate relationship because you know
Everyone who jumps into mean coins has stories of getting rekt. You don't you don't win every time
Right. I remember back in the day in the last bull run. I bought a coin called Karen coin
Yes, and like the logo was just like just like some mom with like short hair
Yeah, that didn't go well it was a Karen. Yeah
Yeah, I think was that hey you got me to buy some of that mong M. O. N. G. I
Grabbed a bag of that, but I'm gonna hope just to just to see what it'll do, but
You never know which one is gonna pump
You can make some serious money in the freaking bull
That is true. So not financial advice, but you know
You guys might want to consider grabbing a small bag of this new dog coin coming to echo just in case
You know for all we know they could bring over all of their Cardano holders if I mean I've never heard of them
But maybe they got a decent sized community that all might jump over to Kadena
They they probably they probably do there'll be something follow and then you'll have some of the Cardano deejans that won't but
It's okay. We'll take them a little at a time
Well, maybe I'll be the start of like Kadena and Cardano sponsorship, I know
Every time I talk to people they confuse the two a lot of times
I'm talking to people and say Kadena they think I'm talking about Cardano
All right, I got in there talk to you have fun
All right, buddy, thanks. It takes take care
Yeah, we'll see no what you were talking about the the dog token, but you know you you've mentioned something about a game
Don't have any more information. That's all I saw so
Adrian from echo I've seen him tweeting about it and
He's also reached out to me
He said that there's the dog token and there's also some gaming project coming from another chain that
He's been talking to and they've been like requesting a listing on echo
So we'll see about that, you know, I love gamify. I love Wizards cab cars SDK
So hopefully they'll bring a nice new game to the space
well, I think if if you know if
Cadenas want to get into the game with the low gas fees
They've got to get some games here and then you know as we get these built out. We'll we'll need to
Need a hundred percent. I mean, we're already other seeing other blockchains that their entire focus is gaming like we have Ronan
Yeah, and you know in my mind
Cadena has previously tried to
Call itself like a like an enterprise blockchain, you know for like handling like business transactions and whatnot for businesses to run on Cadena and
You know if I'm a gaming project
I was looking for a chain to build on I might not want to go to the enterprise blockchain
I might want to go to the gaming blockchain. So it'd be nice if we could kind of
Maybe brand a little bit that way cuz like you're saying the low gas fees are huge for gaming
Like especially if we can speed transactions up a bit. I mean it'd be ideal
Well, you know everything from gas stations to you know, men NFTs
I mean who wants to well, I went to do something the other day. It might have been that mom
At first it was like I was gonna throw 50 bucks or something. I was just gonna buy a small bag
The freakin gas fees were 35 like it was gonna be more
It's just I will say I do hate the theory I'll say that every freakin day I hate a theory so
Yeah, I'm not a big fan I don't I don't enjoy it
I I'm in a pretty big NFT project over there called moon runners and every time I try to go stake it
For like a month that I had it now
I'm letting Tory borrow it but for like the month I had it I kept trying to go to stake it and it was like
Oh $15 in theory and $20. Yeah, and I just just kept not staking it cuz I was like this is bullshit
So I made the ultimate mistake. I went on crypto dot-com and bought some flux
And I didn't really think anything about it
Little did I know it didn't really specify but I bought a theory on flux
And I was initially gonna try to send it to my zelkor wallet
Well, it wouldn't you know, it wouldn't sin because it was on the you know, it was a different it was on the theory
Oh, so I had to go on zelkor and I had to find the ethereal flux and
Then when I got it over to zelkor, it wouldn't let me swap it
so I've the only way I could swap it is to send it back now to crypto calm and
So I'm probably gonna blow about half of my flux just trying to move it around
So now I'm better just to move it back and like sell it and flip it for something else and then just try to buy
it directly on zelkor, so
Yeah, that was a mistake. I made
The onboarding experience for us Americans has been real shit lately. God. It's killing me and I won't touch Coinbase with your account
Yeah, but much less mine. So I
Despise coinbase now crypto.com been good for me
But you know when you get into the slippage and the fees and all that stuff. It's like it is what it is, but
But well does that leave not off is that you want to talk a little bit about protocol
That's exactly what I wanted to talk about
And I also wanted to hear some of El Pepe's thoughts on this because I know he's a big
Zephyr guy. Yeah, I know a lot of hype around there has been private transaction
And so I believe this OPEC wallet that's building on Kadena is supposed to have private transactions
I haven't heard much about this. I haven't really heard
How any technology behind it? I'm wondering if that means that like you would be doing blockchain transactions, but they're transactions that aren't
Well, it's kind of like it's yes kind of interesting because I got on there and read about it
And then I watched their YouTube video and during the research of it, you know, you can do
OPEC to OPEC transactions, which is basically a contract
Transfer it's a little bit different, you know, it's kind of a wallet to wallet so
You can do it that way and you can send it to an external wallet as well
So you can use it but the internal transactions are so much safer doing it that way
It was a completely different concept, but you and I both would have to have
Wallet and you and I could sit directly across to each other without having that guest technically use the blockchain
From wallet to wallet well, I guess it kind of sounds like
I know on some like centralized exchanges you can do a direct transfer to another exchange account
Rather than like withdrawing it and then sending it
Correct and that's the way it is
But I mean, I guess the more OPEC wallets everybody has it's easier to transfer and move things from wallet to wallet
And like I said, you can't send it to people who don't have you know, like if you have a different wallet or whatever
But if they wanted us if you wanted to send me some KDA or buy something from me
It's any KDA to use the blockchain. We could just use the smart contracts or whatever. It would just
transfer wallet to wallet
So I guess technically there would be no record no blockchain record
If that's so then I know what I'm gonna do whenever Kadena moons
Send it over to compact and I'm gonna I guess swap to
Stable coin yeah and privacy and
Then and then I'll hold the stable because I where you get called is trying to go back to your bank account, correct
Similar to the same thing or flipping it back to Bitcoin or something and then sending it to my tank of wallet
Of course, I'm sure they would have to be somewhere in that that it would be a record. So I don't know I just
Yeah, I'm starting to feel like
Well, I know it's crypto but I feel like everyone's here for a bag like everyone talks about Kadena pumping and whatnot
and people treat Bitcoin like a safe haven one of those anyone that treats like Kadena as their safe haven and
You know, even if whenever if we do pump and it's huge
Well, they would you swap for anything? You just hold hold it because you think it's going to a million
No, I mean, I'm a little bit that way with KDA
You know some of these mean coins or stuff or some of these other things hit
You know and it was worth I'm gonna flip a lot of Bitcoin
But I'll flip a lot into KDA as well. Like those are my two favorites
But I'm not I'm not necessarily like trying to flip it into a different coin
There are a few coins that I like out there, you know, I like chain link, you know
There's a few that I may pick up more of but KDA and
I've been acquiring a decent amount with that a free mining app that we've been sharing around the GPU dough. Oh
Made like 75 bucks at Bitcoin in a few months just from clicking a button every day
Yeah, but you know what 75 bucks worth of Bitcoin could be in 10 years
It could be a lot more a lot. That's a lot more situations
So I've actually uh, I've calculated it before and
I think if all my friends are mining on that app, I'm getting 71 Satoshi's an hour and
I did some calculations and that's like actually like a couple terror hash. Oh
Now a couple terror hash doesn't really mean much
This is so cool. If you're well
Yeah, I think part of you know, I've I'm in fraction mining too
And so I have you know, I have some Bitcoin miners that have some Casper miners for all those non Casper lovers
But I still think in this bull run it's gonna produce money and I can take that profit and buy Bitcoin and KDA
So there's a play that I have going but I think the biggest thing for me is it makes me nervous with the Bitcoin
Having is you know, you're sitting here mining all come to happen and you're mining half of what you were
So now I'm hoping the price is gonna compensate for the difference
But I'm still a little bit nervous
But as long as those continue to mine over years, it's just gonna be stacking Satoshi's for me
Historically it does I mean that's not saying that the price is just gonna double overnight as soon as the haven't happens
I think it's already part of it. Yeah, it's 100%
It might already be priced in a little bit too because I
Think historically it likes to run up a little bit before the having not like it the having happens and then it starts going up a bunch
Well, I think people start to buy in because they know it's coming in the technically historically
It's gonna go up. So people try to buy in now, of course
What I need to do is I just need to keep John
And every time he buys, you know
$100,000 worth then it goes up and then I'm over then it crashes after and then I can buy lower
I need him to I need him to keep buying. That's a pretty good strategy. Yeah, I just watch him
I'm like the same I saw he tweeted today about apologizing for the Bitcoin dump
Might ask him to make another buy and then we'll get in. Well, see I gave him a hard time
But I love because now it's gonna go below 40 and I'm gonna be in so it's probably I just I got more pissed
Cuz he didn't give me a heads up
I want to know ahead of time that you're fixing to like save the market and then you know, then I'll buy
You know, there's still people out there saying we're going to 12k sale
Yeah, that ain't gonna happen
I know I would love it, but I don't think that's gonna happen. I don't think it'll go that low
I would say it probably never goes back under 20 again
Dude I really don't believe it's gonna I mean, I think it's gonna drop down and test 35 it might test 32
But I I don't see it going below 30
But that's just my opinion and that's not worth the whole lot but
We might need to get genre up here. He'll give us the inside of what Bitcoin's doing and you know
He might tell us what plate of made but that's true
Hank do you hold any Bitcoin?
No, I don't have any not yet or not at all. I mean not at all
Have you ever held Bitcoin
But my play is the altcoins this bull like I'm playing the altcoins and then when that takes off then I
Flip some of that into Bitcoin. Yeah, well, of course, there's definitely
More gains to be made in the altcoins
Carlo Pieri coming up. Yeah
What's up, Carlo? He's got some he's gonna tell us all about the details man
He's gonna tell us all about key shoot. Can it looks like hey guys. Hello, sir
And do you know how are you?
I'm going to bed and I want to
Greetings all of us and have a nice night
Yeah, I just need you to make it
Of course we always appreciate that and anyone that's here is welcome to get up here on stage
Hang out with us even to say a word or two
See Hank's got his hand up. What's up Hank?
Well, that was an accident I'm sorry, I bet he did that accidentally I ain't never seen him I hope
There you go, he's probably like y'all better be glad that I can't do the middle finger cuz I'd be just flipping everybody off
Let's see what we got next. You'll talk about KMC. Yep. I was thinking dude, man. We're on it tonight
I guess the big news from KMC is that they are getting their shit together and
People are about to be mining I think
Gen 2 upgraded enough keys will be going up to six point two hair hacks rather than the previous
Five point two five and I think that's if you hadn't ended one of the first forty two hundred vials and upgraded
And then they also announced that people who have emerging cold-hosted KA threes will be getting dunked and they'll start hashing
I believe in February is what they said
So, you know as you guys might know, this is pretty big news for me
For Rondell because we have ten members who have put together
The cost for a KA three immersion cold and our in our swarms Dow and
We've been waiting for quite some time, but we're happy to start mining. Yes, I can't wait
Man John was gonna be making a killing
Now when you say shit together, you know, you're looking like Dr. Evil and bending the fingers and everything, right?
Yeah, it's fingers bent crooked a little bit
Yeah, no, I mean I think they're I think they're trying to get everything worked out and lined out, you know
Get some of the equipment issues that they've run into getting those trades. I'm sure that's a
I'm sure with mining that's a heavy to get all that stuff rolling
So I'm just glad he's I'm glad Matthew's kind of worked his way through it figured out some stuff
We're gonna get a little bit extra out of it. So I'm excited and I think so too that floor price got pretty damn low
I think Hank said he picked one up for 135
135 kadana for a KMC and FT's a
I was uh, I was in there watching it the fit storm was coming through and
John, uh, you know using their spewing some stuff around and I jumped on it quick. Yeah
I personally just picked one up the other day for 190 and upgraded it because uh, you know, it's it's a cheap buy and
Yeah, I personally will you know, hope we start mining with that 6.2 tera hash here in February
Earn some kadana for a few months and then put the bad boy when the force back up there 300. Yeah
No, I agree. I've even gone
To I wish I could have caught it at the cheaper price. I just wasn't paying attention when Hank was watching it. So
It didn't got back up like you said to 190 195, but that's still
Yeah, you got to utilize that make collection offer
I mean, even if it's just there a few days or not
But you know someone that be desperate get high-headed it, you know, say screw it and just dump and run
Almost made a couple of offers last night
But I didn't ever go through with it. I need to get back on there and look
And then you guys do like genre you got to sit there and babysit, you know, I've manipulated a little bit so you get that
Like it, but you know, there's several of them. I went there and looked at that were one night
When people had offers for 160, you know, what do you do bump it 162 165?
Pad a little bit more to make it look a little bit first you can grab it
Yeah, so right now the high is
150 and then your low is 130 and there's probably about
Six offer sitting out there
Yes, I'm scared if we keep messing around
I'd like to see collection offers other places see if maybe I soko can get that added
That'd be cool to get that added for Wizards
Maybe make it even more detailed and you could do a collection offer for just Wizards or just druids or just clerics or something like that
Extremely active and liquid. I've done a lot of flipping on and KMC and
Normally likes things sell pretty fast if like if you list it for
Also, I mean just flipping in after he's on Cadena's awesome because you don't have any fees
Right. I mean it's really just like trading in real life
I had done as much trading a flippant like I just bomb and you know
By the ball or whatever. I just hold them like I had like even sold one. I just still hold them. So
Yeah, I've one that I've been holding for a while. It's a it has the four-year warranty on it and I got that upgraded
But I've just made a couple of flips here and there because I remember before I had picked one up for like 215
Which was a great deal. I think it was shin dog
One of the big KMC whales had a hooking up for that now, maybe like over a year ago
Yeah, that's cool like I and I got several of mine free so
You know that worked out but I
Don't know I was kind of like you I'm gonna let them back for me and then when they get
You know, they start going for bigger bucks. I may I may flip a few of them
of course, but my objective is
Is to make enough money and doing it well enough on and flip it and hold it to where you know
I can the next bear I can take that money and if they get down to 2500 again or 3,000 make it by
Two or three complete K threes or whatever's next, you know, whatever the newest one is and instead of just buying the NFTs
Yeah, you know, I definitely love NFT mining
I'm like definitely in no position to mine at home
I'm kind of jealous of people who do have good setups at home, but
My NFT mining makes it a lot easier for you
Well, even like the GPU Dow like there's some of that stuff
I'm not even good at and I'm sure and I really want to get me like one
that I can just play with at home and learn but
Like I said to some of that's new to me. So I don't I wouldn't really quite know what it is a lot better
The GPU Dow's an awesome thing some of the stuff that they talk about like in the the cards online and the rig
I don't even understand some of the shit they're saying. Yeah
Well, I was gonna ask you something too, by the way, because I when I got home a minute ago jumped off
Just kind of checking it out. But so tell me a little bit about this latest thing with the the Trump Bitcoin
Well, I think you had shared something about the Trump coming out with oh, oh, yes. Yes. Yes
What did tell me I haven't had time to read everything with ordinals
Ordinals is kind of like a I guess in simple terms. It's like NFTs on Bitcoin and
What you can do is I think you can go back into the past and
You can inscribe I guess a picture to like a specific Satoshi
and so I actually saw one guy that said that he had beat Trump to it Trump said he was gonna inscribe one of his
Some of his mug shots to Bitcoin and launched as a collection
Some guy had got on there and said I did it first and he had put Trump's mugshot on a pizza Satoshi
So I guess he'd went into the past and one of the bitcoins that like there's 10,000 Bitcoin that were spent on a pizza
Way back in the day, right?
Some of those Satoshi's have a Trump's mugshot inscribed to them now. Oh sweet
And so this is one of the things that ordinal projects will do is they'll say oh, well
All of our ordinals are inscribed to like historical events and that can make them like rarer
Well, I own I got a couple of the first round of
Trump NFTs, I didn't get any of the second round. I missed it. I
Didn't even know it was out and I missed it and then I got a couple of the mug shots. So I
Figured I would hold those to the bull or get closer to the election
I don't know. I figure the price will start to run and when it does I may flip them
you know, I'll flip them for ease and then you know flip that to something else but
We'll see how how they go, you know, I just love it and think it's hilarious that freakin Donald Trump
Like what the hell kind of simulation do we live in all right
It's pretty awesome, I think it's hilarious
Or where'd Jimmy go? He was just up here on stage. I know I wonder if he rugs and had to drop down
That might be what happened
Maybe you'll come back or you may have to go cook something or hell no, I mean
Had to go get on a treadmill. Yeah, do some more speed walking for us
Yeah, you jumped off the treadmill just to talk and then once we didn't say what's up. He went back to the treadmill
See we got Cadena skellies in the house. They got a lot of stuff going on right now
What's up skellies you guys when we get up here
We'd love to have a kid in a project up here hang out with us
Maybe tell us what you got going on recently. I had a feeling we could get genre up here. I
Knew John would eventually pull the trigger. Absolutely. I figured if we picked at him enough. He would get up here, of course
We do the same thing do you like 100% Oh, I know it
We're giving genre the stage where's it we're yeah, John
Maybe he's talking and I realize that he uh, is me to do this
He could be just talking away
Well, I guess we'll sit and wait for him yeah
I'm confused. He put he put like a sad face. I know but he's up here
So is he just up here, but you can't speak currently. I think he's scared
Yeah, it's a little nervous guys. Just a little nervous. Yeah
I was I had to get my knees to stop shaking
Some reason when you accept my request to join it it takes forever for my headset to reconnect it
Disconnects my headset and I have to reconnect it. So that was the delay. Sorry. Oh, wow. Keep you guys waiting
Well, you're good man, we'll do that next we'll just sit here make right until it connects all good all good
I wanted to join earlier, but I was in kind of a secure environment
So I wasn't able to but yeah, what are we talking about?
Man we're talking about all kind of stuff, man
What's your uh, what's your take on KMC? How are you feeling about all that always bullish on KMC?
Always will be this right. They got a good team
February you think February is gonna be
Yeah, yeah, I think the perspective is so much different when you run your own operation
Before you got into KMC. Yeah, and you just know all the logistical issues that happen
right in the crowd and so
You know, you just gotta roll with the punches on that and it's it's no fun to be
offline for six weeks, but
You know once once we get back going, you know when?
Dude, yeah, once we get everything rolling immersion, you know
6.2 Tara hash when you start take yeah when you start taking all that into account, dude
Like I can't yeah, we'll be golden. We'll have fun enough in the bull market and be good
Yeah, and I kind of like the fact is like every time there's a hiccup that we have some issues it's
It's like crap people, you know, like we'll sell and Hank goes in there buys peonies on the ball
But he always Matthew kind of comes back with okay, we can do better
Right what you offer, you know, like originally the 5.2 to 6.2
I mean and that's where I was joking with you. I mean if you want a good bit of these
I mean one extra tear hatch per NFT makes a big difference
That's a pretty oh my gosh. It's a huge difference. Yeah, I've still got several I need to upgrade it
And I may or may not have picked up a few at a very low price. Maybe not as good as Hank did
But right I was also trying to be patient too
You know, there was some a lot of fun going on in the discord
I was hoping that they'd let that continue for a while so we could get even lower with that floor price, but
Yeah, I think Hank and a few others are gobbling those up. I got a few at 150 K. Well
That's as that's good. That's still not a bad price
Hey, what do they say you buy when there's blood the streets, right? That's right
Yeah, I've considered making like some organized but just to get some cheaper ones
Hey, well, I'm gonna tell you like I tell John or just let me know ahead of time
I'll get my KDA ready. I'm sitting there to buy for like 20 KDA each, you know
Yeah, then I'll sit flipping selling for 200
Yeah, Bitcoin drops the light. I heard you guys talking about Bitcoin if it drops to 39
I'll be getting another little chunk of it if it gets to 35
I'll buy a pretty big chunk of it if it drops under that right? I'll be bit buying as much as I can
Yes, what's your average John right now?
Well, I've got a couple different accounts so my my average is about 30 grand on my
On everything I bought before yesterday
Nice the stuff I bought yesterday than the new account so
And I'm not bad at all, you know, some money that was in a retirement account
I had to roll it over so I could get access to the spot Bitcoin ETFs
And right and because there I had no other way besides, you know
Taking the tax hit and pulling it out to get to self-custody
so I just left it in there rolled it over and and bought in directly through the
So I think at the bit wise ETF which looks like probably one of the better at least the top three
man, that's it's such a weird thing for me because like if part of me is I want to stick with the Bitcoin the
Self-custody part like I don't like the ETF thing because that's not what Bitcoin was designed for work
And then at the same time though, you know
There's gonna get into ETFs and it's gonna get into the market and do it
I don't have a problem with owning some I would prefer self-custody. But yeah in your position
You don't want to take the tax head. It's easier to roll it over to it
It's just you don't have custody of it, but you kind of didn't you don't have custody of stocks either
I mean technically so right
yeah, there's definitely trade-offs and it's not ideal to invest that way but
You know, if you're if you have money that you can't otherwise access Bitcoin directly in self-custody
It's at least you can get closer to it, you know indirectly
Absolutely, and I don't think it's wrong to diversify
I mean you had it I don't like the centralized part of it where they could just hold your account or hold your money
I don't like that right, you know, if you do have some in self-custody your hands aren't tied
I'm just I'm curious. I guess it'll the ETFs are work the same way. I mean, I guess when you hit a certain age and
Start drawing on it or drop percentage of it or something
Yeah, without getting out the tax hit
For the penalty it for pulling out before a certain range
Yeah, I know a lot of people that cashed out their 401ks and stuff to get into Bitcoin
They just went ahead and took the taxi it and I tried as hard as I could but it came down to
I would have to quit my job and I just can't do that
Yeah, that's not good right now. I am also
Kind of resistant to that
I'm still working on them. Yeah
Something will open up they'll built they'll fix something
What's the question Ron did you have a happy birthday we were you know, oh
The tried to make it special but you know, I kind of once you're like not
Every birthday is like man. I'm getting an order. I know you guys are like, I know Kevin's gonna tell me to shut up
Well, I was gonna say hey party like it's 1990 that you ain't old enough
Just a baby, that's right
Party like it's 1999 suck it on a pacifier
Party like a cypherpunk again, that's right
You'll see him going down the road they'll hang the trunk
Yeah, I was joking with him about that in the discord channel like
We're talking about I was talking about being old
Like when I walk I feel like I creeped my knees and stuff and I was like, yeah at the next cypherpunk
I'm gonna have Ron roll me around
You know in the in my little Walker chair or something or cart
And Ron will start to making fun of me about that. Yeah, that could be dangerous
And I was like, yeah, I better rethink this like Ron will be done running me out the street got me hit by a car
Or he would take off running down the hill and just jump in my lap and we would just ride
Hope we didn't crash into something
Well, that's probably not a good idea because that that venue is in the second biggest Gaborhood in the United States
So people might get some ideas if they see me sit on your
Well, does anybody plan on going back there this year, I mean we're playing on going back but
Did anybody else in the audience plan on going? I know we gotta have some new people
I'll probably end up going again
Was hoping there was gonna be like a kid in conference this year, but those rumors got shut down
Did they? Yeah, I heard talk about it, but I didn't know it got shut down
Well, I'd asked one a campfire on time and they told me in the April in Amsterdam
and then I a few months later like a month or two ago, I had a
verified try to verify some of it with like Mike and some other people from the team and they're like, yeah, that's
They need to have one like in Nashville or something
100% so we got dr. Blue in the house. I had the pleasure of meeting him in cypherpunk. He had the absolutely he had some awesome outfits
Yeah, he did styling and profiling. Oh, yeah
Yeah, I'd like to have a you know, I'd love to have a good day in the conference and
I'll probably do the cypherpunks especially since they're gonna be back be back down there
Maybe we can get Hank to come over this time
Since he lives so close and wouldn't come hang out with us
Yeah, Hank, that was kind of a that wasn't very cash money of you Hank
I think he was hiding down in the basement or something at work with the generator again. I think he was
Yeah, I might have been something like that
Yeah, tell him Dodger blue
Yeah, this year they're having one in Europe and one back in the same venue as last year
Know that the last time he had action CEO up here
He said that the owner of the venue had actually mentioned something about me going behind the bar
Another gonna they're gonna have my freakin picture on a bulletin board inside and say do not admit
If they're a little like little mini post office, it's gonna be a picture of you with a cross X through it
Yeah, yeah, and I'm gonna be banned. I'm gonna let me enter
Yeah, it's kind of crazy since they were giving the alcohol away for it anyway, no, it's true
I don't know why you got to swap a paper ticket for it. I mean I had the tickets
My whole thing was why do I have to have a
Freakin bartender here to give it to me if I can just do it myself and I'll even leave the ticket here sitting for you
Well, I think the part that got me was
P so we were allowed to be up there and I know there wasn't a bartender to service up there
That defeated the purpose of the VIP, right? Yeah, that's not how you treat a VIP, you know that yeah
I mean you had to go back there and get your own beer
I mean you can't even get started. I know I guess I should have bought a booth
But yeah, no it's a good time and I know we talked about it a lot
But it really was just so awesome meeting some of the people that I always see online and I'm hoping that
Next year the next event we go to get to meet some more people that weren't there last year
Yeah, that's really what I was hoping that's why I like kind of talking about it's cuz I really wanna I
Really want to inspire some people to come. I mean, you know as well as I do man
There was more kadana people there like just imagine if no kadana people showed up. Oh
I know I didn't feel like there were many people there that were there just for flux, right?
Like the place would have been empty to for the most part. It'd be cool. Maybe next year. They could like
Like partner with another blockchain and try and get some more people more folks out there
Well, you know flux has signed with a lot more people and there's some other blockchains that signed with them
So, you know it it possibly could be bigger, you know, you know, I'd be huge
Yeah, I would like for it to be big enough that maybe that
Well whenever I was thinking about it
I thought that there was gonna be a lot more people there than there was and then once I got there
I saw the amount of people there and I was like, well, it kind of makes sense. I mean, it's just like flux and kadana and
You know, it's also a bear market too. I think even the Bitcoin events don't even really get that huge in a bear market
No, they don't have you considered
What Bitcoin conferences is that April or it's after April. I believe after the happening. They're doing one in Nashville
Nashville. Oh, hell yeah. I mean that's that's perfect. I've been wanting to visit Nashville for a couple years now, dude
I love Nashville. My brother absolutely loves Nashville. He goes there a lot, but the town is phenomenal
Yeah, that's like it's like New Las Vegas just in Tennessee
It is in the strip man where you can walk
This is where the Grand Ole Opry is and stuff so you can go by there and see everything
But you know on the strip where all the bars are you just never like you might be in there
You might walk in a bar to get here. Just check it out
One of the famous country singers might be in there still with a guitar just playing like yeah
No, it's definitely a cool experience. Yeah, I've had some buddies go there and they said they had a really good time
Yeah, Nashville is fun, but they said the Bitcoin conference would be there this year
So I'm I talked to my wife the other day and I'm like, hey
Maybe try to go. She's like sure
So and then that's this April
Well, it's after the happening. I can't remember if it's in April or if it's like June like it but it's after
What else we got we were gonna talk a little bit about did you listen to Mike here today I
Did not listen to that podcast yet. No
Yeah, a lot of it was just talking about how they you know
Team and how they came to it in the process of how they work through and come up with it
Did you listen to it? Yeah, I jumped on and listen to it a little bit while I
It's uh, it was pretty interesting
I mean, they didn't just throw the K together
They actually show the progression of how they came up with it and the different
Different ones that they used to build to it and I think they actually pulled
15 people from the community. I
Don't know who they were. He didn't specify
They pulled about 15 people top in the community to actually create
Help look at it and kind of give feedback from the community and
When they got down to the what they have now for the Kadena symbol
13 of the 15 loved it. So
That's kind of the one they went to but
It was pretty interesting
What nothing super amazing, but they just kind of
Well, I think it's an upgrade
I mean, I'm not completely used to it yet
But our old K was like really just like a like a Times New Roman font just been bold like it was just a really
And I'm not and I'm not a super big big on black pink
So I didn't really care for all the pink stuff, but I didn't care
I didn't mind it like I still bought the KDA watch and it's got the old logo and I was actually curious
I was gonna reach out to South Baltimore and see if they actually did create a new logo
Could the watches be shipped back in and converted to the new logo and shipped back?
Well, this is one thing I've been thinking about
Thinking about a rebrand. It's kind of hard because if you think about all the people that use like a pink K on their website
I mean, I know KMC even has like pink K's on their art
So I'm still a nice throwback
But like to think about all the stuff that people have to change just because like the the branching, you know, right
No, I agree, you know, and I even made that comment
Baltimore style like we bought these watches now to me it could be an OG version, you know
It's a throwback but you know, I was like, what are you gonna do down the road?
Making a new KDA watch with the new logo and then I've got to buy another watch and then have both like, you know
They're like we're we're looking at that
But I I'm good either way, I mean I like I like the watch so I'm not complaining about it
So I was telling you I didn't pick up any of those watches. So do you have the flux watch?
So don't want you get like some kind of benefits for holding that like what do you get?
You get like an airdrop every month or like access to anything. Oh
In zelcor they have the upgraded whatever thing that you have to pay for the annual
There's some kind of annual thing VIP thing that they do in zelcor and I get that free
You get to I get to go to all flux
Conference VIP stuff anything associated with flux I get VIP access to you wait
So like your cyberpunk tickets for free mine were
Okay, you didn't get multiple just one
Well, I actually I did get multiple because if you were KDA or flux you get a VIP for each one
So Laura and I both went VIP because of my watches. Oh nice
so we were able to get into that of course SGK got some that we could give away and
Plus we ended up with a couple of extra
We try to invite a few people, you know that couldn't afford it like Greg, you know
You know couldn't get a ticket and so we invited him, you know, so
We were able to give some people in the community VIP passes to go with us
Hey, don't forget about me if you didn't give me a ticket. I wouldn't have been there. I know and we gave yep
Well, and you know, we just so happened. I think we were in the K and C and
AMA or something and you mentioned something about
I reached out and I was like, well, hey, I got a P ticket from you and your girlfriend if you both want to come so
And I mean that's having a week-long vacation because of that. So and I appreciate it. Yeah, I mean, oh, absolutely
I wanted to meet you you to meet, you know, I just I wanted everybody there. So I'm like
We were just trying to get people there to hang out with us
So and it was fun. It paid off like we all had a really good time
We got to meet you your girlfriend, you know, Greg got to come so we got to meet, you know host and
That's how you create friendships, you know
100% like you're saying, you know
It's kind of good that we keep talking about it because I'm hoping some people that that are listening will say
Oh, well, that sounds like a good time
I'll have to go next year because I really do want to see some more people there Jimmy's gonna be there
I mean, oh, yeah him and his wife's coming Hank's gonna come this year
John was coming back, you know, so
Yeah, I'm trying to get I'm trying to get some people to get on the plane and fly across the pond man
Yep, we were I think we were telling a dragon eye in the GPU Dow. Yeah
That's I'll tell you what though I don't blame them though, that's a flight that I don't want to take
Yeah, I don't either like I was thinking about if we went to Amsterdam. I'll tell my girlfriend
It said it was like a seven-hour flight
Or something like that and I was like we're gonna need to buy like first class or something cuz I'm not sitting in one
Of those chairs for seven hours. Yeah, I
Mean I've done four and it's not be fun
But I mean I can do it but I mean if you were talking about flying to China or something it was like 20 freaking out
I've done a couple 12-hour flights and
Thankfully they were international because the drinking was allowed
Yeah, right drinking and movies
Yeah, yeah, so it definitely makes up for a good month
Well, aren't they aren't they larger planes? Don't you have a little bit more leg for international? Yeah
Typically, they're the double deckers. I got you upstairs downstairs plane. So it's not your traditional 747. Nope. Most of them are
Yeah, I make it do that I
Had a couple of them when I went to Iraq and then a couple when I went to
Afternoon guys, what's up?
What's up, brother? How you doing? Hey, so who's anybody gonna go to Amsterdam? I'm going like are you really like I had so much fun
Like some of that stuff was just like
Not a boring but the afters. Yeah after parties were
Were insane, you know what? We didn't have enough time. It's like
You know the first day you're walking around looking in
Thanks, and you're having to figure out put names with faces cuz you know, like all these things we're looking at everybody's
PFPs, we don't know who's who and you know, you you turn somebody's VIP badge around and says their name
and you're like, oh hell this is you, you know, and so
As the as the event went on at the second day
We all kind of relaxed and loosened up and started hanging out and having fun and cutting up
And I mean we had a blast but God when it was over it was like I need like two or three more days with everybody
Like it was awkward cuz I'd got there in the doors first open like right at 930 on the dot and I didn't see
Anybody I knew so I was just standing there with my girlfriend being like yeah, we're just waiting till someone I recognize walks in
Was but I mean by the end of it the end of the second day though
It's completely different like I we were trying to go to different sides
depending on who was on what stage talk about what or who we wanted to listen to but
Other than that man, we were just hanging out like cutting up having fun. Oh
Yeah, we we joke about it a bunch, but you know after a few corona's you really have a good time
That was I mean it really
Would love to go to Amsterdam when they first announced it. Oh my god. What's her name with flux that was
I've lost her name. It's on the tip of my tongue and I can't think of it
What's the the girl that kind of running the whole thing for flux?
Anyway, we met her me and my brother we better get your pitch, you know got a picture with her
We got a joking around and we're just like oh, I'll see you next year in Amsterdam
And we were like, yeah, cool. Sure. We can't wait
So we just figured that's where it was until they came out the announcement that they were actually doing one here and one there
What are you guys talking about is the next cypherpunks gonna be in Amsterdam and they're doing yeah
Okay, Amsterdam and they're doing one here now whenever you guys said Amsterdam
I thought you were talking about that getting a conference that they said was gonna happen in April, but I guess isn't happening anymore
Well, I didn't say where it's gonna happen like they didn't say Amsterdam, but they said Europe. Yeah, I heard Europe as well
I did hear Europe, but I also thought I heard Amsterdam. I could be incorrect
Well, I'm almost kind of tempted to go to the Europe one instead if they're on the same day because I know a lot of
on Kadena or like Europe Italy I
Would you can if yeah if they told me that they were gonna go
Right like the people the people that I know
Drive over there. I mean drop hate to fly over there and pay all that and then show what you know, they're not be there. So
Like like I I I roomed up with the crypto ketamine never even met the dude and we split a
Yeah, like a hotel but kind of like an apartment right like a Airbnb kind of thing
It was like apartment complex, but they they were
All all rooms you could rent rent. Oh, wow
Just ours was the same way but it was Airbnb, but it was like an apartment
To put up to put a face to a name that some of you've been talking to forever. Yeah, like really cool
It's a lot isn't like I said, it's a lot cooler than I even thought it was gonna like I thought it was gonna be cool
But then when I got there started meeting people, it was way cooler, you know
You know, we ended up going out to eat with different people and night, you know
That's one thing that I should have done more of this is hanging out with some people outside of the conference because I was
Tied up and hang out with the girlfriend in her family and shit
Yeah, see like we were caught like we were caught but we ended up having catching a flight fairly early
Mid-morning and my brother stayed till later that evening. He ended up going like I guess Daniel Keller
They had a condo house that they had rented on the beach and there was like eight or ten of them stay in there
And he like went back to their house
I hung out with your brother. Yeah, we went to lunch with Dan and then we went yeah. Yeah
Yeah, I thought that was you though
But yeah, he was telling me later. He was texting me, you know telling me about it
But we were already on our flight headed back
Scott that I'm told he put on that skateboarder there and no
That was man, I was that that was in Texas wasn't it? Yeah, I was sitting on top of the ramp with all the pro skaters just
Be I wish I would have known almost went I almost went to that
You know, I'm up there drinking a beer and everybody's thinking like Gator ain't
That just means you were cool
But you didn't have to worry about staying on a board with four wheels
That's just crazy man looking down like those guys are nuts
Yeah, square that he was going to and he was the one that invited me to get me to come to it
They were good. He was going on to like he does like trail riding and bike or something hiking and all kind of stuff
That can't go and then I backed out cuz I didn't know anybody like I didn't know anybody go but damn
We need to like we need to like have a thing where we can all
Discuss all this stuff and see who's going where
Be able to connect and hook up to what all these different events are
Just the to announce the dates of cyberpunk 2024 is
September 25th and September 26th or 26th of 2024 in Port Lauderdale
I don't see anything on here about the Amsterdam
Wait, so maybe a different conference altogether. Does it say it's two days apart? You said the 24th and the 26th
I probably said that wrong. It's the 25th went Wednesday the 25th and Thursday the 26th. Okay, I gotcha
That's a nice job frame. Yep
You know another Thursday night with y'all man, this is great I came in a little late tonight, you know was having
You know Margarita Thursday with the wifey and
You know when I came in you guys were talking about the
Cyberpunk and there was a man I regretfully missed even though I had I think about
Yeah, eight tickets to it became of all my watches and I won some raffle on an AMA with flux to at one point
And I can't believe I wasn't able to attend it
But like shit just came up man, but it would have been great to meet you all like I heard all about
Ron your your status there is a little legendary on the night one at this point
I just wanted to chime in about I'm not sure if the flux girl you were talking about was either Betty or Lisa
Nice. They all she's the one that I think mentioned
Yeah, and like game kid in the Kadena verse like what I'm chiming on there
It'd be anything constructive to the whole conversation here
I guess would be that like I feel like Kadena had mentioned
And I know it was in the campfire where the fuck it that it was gonna be
Hackathon ish in in Amsterdam with Kadena, right?
So I heard it was at the full-on Kadena conference, but I've also heard I think
Think I've heard a few things about a hackathon
The hackathon is what mostly excites me and I feel like they came out of like Randy's team
You know, but I and I can't exactly place, you know
Where the memory is, but I feel like Randy is promoting hackathon there
And you know that's been a big catalyst in a couple ecosystems for really onboarding devs and like, you know
Kind of you're like for real arrived in like ready to like mass market your shit is they have one of these where you have an
Attracted audience already of developers or like, you know, what's lined up, you know
So that's the one that I was pretty excited about, you know
And I don't I was just actually honestly wondering how accurate my memory was on what I remembered hearing if I recalled correctly or not
Yeah, I'm not a hundred percent sure on that like I had heard any of that but like I remember when they were talking about Europe
I was like, I don't even have a passport
Like I've got to go get that and then they turned around for Lauderdale again
And I thought oh, well, I don't need a passport to go to Fort Lauderdale. Oh
Yeah, anyway, no, but still gotta see if we can get Mike Aaron to come down the cypherpunk this year. I
Don't see why they wouldn't I mean why you couldn't I
Mean I'd love to see that I see we got crypto Chris in the house. That's my buddy slim Torian our
Our UK friend, what's up slam? I'm all good. They better do a fuck in Europe one. I'm up for Europe
There you go, I was thinking I got a couple of buddies from crypto live in the UK Europe
Like I said, probably more up their alley a little bit more than coming to Florida
But that makes sense. Amsterdam's a fucking wicked city to go to as well
I would definitely try to go. I would definitely try to go
If it's if it's that well anywhere in Europe's close to me anyway, so like wherever it is in Europe, I'm up for going
Well, did you does anybody?
You know the it being called cypherpunk was news to me
When it was mentioned a couple minutes ago
I you know, I had heard them mention any number of things that were going on in and around, you know European, you know
Places there seems to be a gazillion things that people are hitting up and the flux verse there
I hadn't heard of it being branded cypherpunk
Who is it who was speaking on that one a moment ago? I can't remember
I was the person I've heard it being branded is cyberpunk. You like Europe
Yeah, I may try to get on an ask committee and verify that because she was the one
Because I think I went to her and I was like, hey, it was very nice to meet you. It was a fantastic conference
Thank you. We'll see you next year and she's like, yeah next year. We'll see you coming to Europe and
I was like, uh, I was like, I don't have a passport
That's great. They've really made it and you know, I like their state of the Union and stuff
I feel like in a lot of their EMA is they could they always try to you know
Make sure that they're conscious of like, you know, the European, you know
Hosting of the network is probably the biggest influx, right?
Number of things that have kind of recognized that I can't remember hearing it branded as cyberpunk
But you guys were there and you know, and I don't know if there was something that was kicked around there or something
Yeah, there was different talk about different things and different names
'm gonna like I said, I'm gonna I'm gonna reach out and try to verify that I know they've got the one at Fort Lauderdale
They've already said that but I'm gonna see if there's a secondary one that's going on in Europe or Amsterdam because I just I just am Scott
Somebody being coming because he's a he's like an event coordinator for flux. Oh sweet
Were you were you rooming with Deb and Crypto Academy and Dutch?
That's dope. You guys must add a lot of fun. Yeah
It's like that movie hangover, yep, that was it
Who got the facial tattoo
Love it. Love it. Oh shit good stuff
Yes, guy would be the one to know right shit he's the fucking official team member, right
Tab's has got to be the one that knows
Blow his fucking inbox up
Yeah, I was trying to look I usually we have a channel with what slaps
Couldn't not bring it up man, you know about we're talking about flux watches and canana watches
You know, I mean, does anybody motherfucking minted a Kadena black Titan yet on the SGK Gen ones or what?
You know, I was on that home. Yeah for a minute. I got a couple of flux flux Titan watches NFTs
The only ones in the collection or the flux and the KDA
Does anyone hit one of those black titanium's
Buyer of the watch you'll get a black one like it's rarer
Well, they're yeah, they're uber rare, right? Like the flux one
I think there's only 32, you know, there are less the flux NFTs and they're out of the flux watches, right?
And the Kadena ones are even more rare right like you you did the research on it
I feel like it was like a minor amount, you know of a decimal
But they're you know, they think there may be like eight less Kadena watches, right? And I don't think anybody's minted one yet. I
Have not seen one and I've asked and I haven't had anybody speak up and say that they've gotten one. So
Don't know if anybody's posted anything lately. I
Have not been posting I continue to mint them
I mean, I'm up basically I you know, I've got like probably 3% of the total mint
100 maybe around a hundred of them now
Yeah, no fucking tight. No black Titans. Oh, man. I got a couple. I got a couple of flux watches
No, none of those those could be anyone's yet. I know I've got one flux
I wobble back and forth on like how much you know, my Kadena I'm gonna blow and see the garden versus Wizards and
Depending on how bad my decision-making had been, you know in one or the other for the last week
How you tend to go heavier any other, you know, it's
All be good and good time
Love you guys. No, we love you, man. No, yeah, it's fine
Like I've been doing the same thing like I'm trying to there's like two or three that I won't because the shirt
That's got the tree kind of the tree of life. It's got the white shirt with the tree and the root system
You know, our parent company is called K2 creative
but if you notice in the root system, it actually has the K2 woven to the roots and
That's just because the K2 is me and my brother Kevin and Kyle
So, you know we're I want one of those so there's a couple of special ones in there that I want myself
And I have yet to get so I will either be minting one or trying to buy one off of somebody and there's
Pay if somebody gets one. So
If I meant one I'll just I'll just send it to you man
Literally, I'll just send it to you. No, no, no nothing. I'll just send it
Man you you're contributing, you know to my hopes in the whole blockchain, right? So, you know, appreciate you
So, you know, I'll just send you that you know, and it's it's easy
No, just just give me your second black titanium
Deal right the first one that you keep it right if you've been a second black that game I want a motherfucker I want
That Chris that said he just
We'll be trying to train I've got to wait for this cross fucking chain transfer
It's like watching the slot machine the entire mint so far as the wooden machine and hasn't yielded any so it's do
That's what I kept telling myself, you know the last 50
The only benefit that you have is like if people aren't really minting right now, then you get the you know
your odds I guess are better for you, but
Somebody I'll be able to take them and I got I'm gonna have so many of those gen ones at stake
Yeah, I've got a little bit of drop as far as for SGK like
So right now we're I've been working with the doubt we're we're looking at
What is it the one is this I think this Sunday we should have the website or the foundry
Set up for the burn function. Everything's gonna be kind of rearranged for you like man
I mean, you're gonna be able to stay can do everything and then you're basically gonna be able to just burn your to
So all the website have you done right now our target is the 28th, which is the Sunday after this one
The burn function if all goes well, it should be the 28th. We will start the burn function
So everybody will start being able to upgrade here probably a week and a half
Lord willing in the creek door I
Mean you've seen the stats
I'm keeping on my progress through 32 or 32 collections there
I'm actually as we speak minting for
New weapons, you may have to update that chart
But you know man, I you know the teases, you know, how do you how does one get on the
You know bug testers or you know, just like, you know when when battle bouts like plaques how close are we to that?
You know, could you got any ETA or can I can I help beta test it?
I I you know have been I've done that actually for a number of actually pretty reputable companies in terms of gaming
Yeah, absolutely. We can get you in on that
We're still working on a few things for the game function play
With the game dev there's some things that we don't like kind of how they're
Kind of how they're doing some of the layout and the play of it
We don't really like so we're having to get them to kind of change a few of those things
Once we kind of get through the main gameplay that we played like we like
We're gonna go to beta and then we're gonna get some people in play and it helped, you know
Find the bug sure things, you know fix them little bitty things like that
But right now we're trying to get we've got about four to five items
We're trying to get them to correct and then once we hit that hopefully now that depends on them
Sometimes we'll send them a list of four or five things and after two or three weeks
They'll send it to us and then we play it and then they only fix like two of them
and then we have to send it back and then it takes them a couple of weeks, so I
Would love to say that we can send it to them and in four weeks
They send it back to us exactly like we asked but game developers don't work that way
So it's a constant stay in on them and a constant play and now we do have a version
my brother and I have a version that we
We are actually playing it some but we're just trying to get it to that point first before we bring people in so
No, yeah, yeah, totally understandable man, I understand the
You know battle tested and stress tested kind of you know things that you got to do with you know, bringing something up
Scale with it with a game like that
But the teases are amazing and I am I wasn't sure if you guys are already in beta testing and you know
Some people got like some seriously tight lips
What because like the tease you put out was so fire that is like, oh wow, you know, man, you know
At the very worst they got to have legendary and all 32 collections and ideally I'd like to have
Legendaries in backup so that when the fucking FOMO comes that I'm ready to the custody of the fuck out of somebody, you know
No, I think it's gonna be good. I think you'll like it
I mean that we've got things at play, you know, I know there's some people think it's just me and my brother
But I mean I gave the team we've got all our mods
We've got like Morgan with tech fleet
We've got a handful of people that are actually working in our project
And so there's a lot going on, you know, you know, there's a lot going on behind the scenes. There's a lot of communications
There's a lot of mating the so code we've got
Codelves doing stuff that are working on packed where you do a great job of leaking
Morgan does a great job of leaking lately the you know where you're at in the you know, weapon upgrade
Just kind of like teasing and some of like the UI looks to it all right that are, you know, really looking great, man
Excited to text to you that you know, but you know, you're not like leaving us in the dark
He's been you know, you guys have been great about leaking that stuff lately for sure. Well, we knew we needed to and I mean
Whenever you have a plan Ron knows this as well
I mean when you've got a project you've got a people want to see you building
People are going to invent people are investing in you. So they just want to see that you're doing something
I know there's sometimes there's somebody out there that our project or something that they're not showing anything and you're kind of like
And so we're trying to go processed step-by-step for us, you know, we're we've we've started
Probably every few weeks or month we would come out with something to you
We're trying to once a month and drop something to show that we're building and then we're doing it
There's just a show that trust for trust in the community
That's like I said, I mean we're gonna be dropping this next week. Hopefully the
We did a zoom meeting with
Morgan a week or so ago and when we started really laying out with him and our and our
We've got a pack developer who does stuff and helps on the website stuff as well
And so those guys meet and then they talk and they get with us and then we meet with a so-called
So like I said, there's a lot of moving parts behind the scene
We do a lot of meetings eight or nine o'clock at night. We're we're zooming
But that was the whole just as you know
We reached out to Morgan and said hey as you do some of the stuff when you drop it in the community
We want people in discord to be checking in seeing what we're doing seeing the progress
So we gave him free reign to do that stuff. So he's been doing a phenomenal job dropping stuff
Love love to hear that that's like was a coordinated
effort on you guys behalf because it's known, you know as a consumer as a lover of like what's getting built and I've
Appreciated to see any like this is really cool. Like, you know, you've mentioned it obviously and you know
Any number of places I feel like when you know, you got a chance to talk to the community
I would not every tunes into that right?
Do you know to see it just like in such a digestible way, you know, you know
Just as a visual way of what you've said is in development, you know
And you know just the update to that whole foundry is looking great, man
Well, I really appreciate it. Like I said, we'd initially plan to drop the barn on the 21st and
Yesterday I was about to announce it in our our pack developer
Contacted me and said hey, dude, I just poured water on my laptop and fried it and I'm not gonna go
He's like, is there any way you can push it back a week?
And I was like, well, I mean, what do you what do you say? No, I mean, yeah, dude
I mean, I guess you know, we push it back a week. I mean he just freakin poured water in his laptop. So
Crap I would have told him picks or it didn't happen
I mean, I could just imagine like if I did that to my
Shit right there on the spot. So I feel bad for it. Yeah, dude, don't worry about it
We'll push it back a week. We're good to go. So I like the community to understand
The last laptop I had before I got this macbook air. I was doing school work and
an entire beer poured all over the keyboard
I still got to take it to a computer store or something or maybe talk to one of my tech friends from
Crypto and see if they can see how I can pull some stuff off the hard drive
Well, just be careful and don't live it leave it at the computer store too long because they get access to it
They can share all your private stuff on there
You know, well, that's true. I want to know I'm just gonna ever charge me. Anyway, you might wind up like a baby
Everyone probably four keyboards during the pandemic because you know day drinking became, you know, popular
Well, there went four keyboards
I think it got very popular
For a minute it was really involved. Yeah, it's like end of the world. Well, what are you doing? I don't know but yeah
Apparently, it's without toilet paper, but with a lot of booze
They let me tell you what I did. We had just
Decided we wanted to start doing more camping and we can't count and stuff forever. We decided hey
We're gonna go get us a you know, a camper a real camper. So
Two weeks before covet hit which for us was a boy. It's about spring break
And school shut down everything stopped and we took our camper to one of the like state parks down the road or whatever
We count for like four solid weeks. We just basically live like it was some post-apocalyptic world or something
But I will tell you that was the most peaceful most fun four weeks
I'd had in a long time day
we would I would go work during the day and we would go back to the campsite and there was like two other couples and we
All had our kids and we basically put our campers campers like in a triangle
And then we had the big fire pit in the middle with all the openings and there was 20 of us
It's like four weeks all 20 of us just sat around the campfire at night with
marshmallows and beer and whatever and just
like lived kind of off the grid
Fucking we're the millers, bro
Yeah, I don't know man, I there it was a tough time for a lot of people
I know a lot of people struggled and there was a lot of bad stuff that happened but
We actually utilized it just to get away
Sure, I mean there's you know, man, you know, you can't really judge anybody and how they
Handled that whole situation because there's so much crazy, you know, and you know
Your sources of information and inspiration, uh and all that man shit
I can't even judge people who I would have judged who I want to judge is maybe handling it the worst
You know and maybe got like shot up with like 1800 versions or whatever
Only to still be catching the the virus, you know the next day
Um, you know, and I don't even want to go down that rabbit hole, you know, but like shit
Situation man, like a lot of people made a lot most of it. I feel like I made a hell of the most of it
For sure. I did too. I mean I ain't a lot man. I took I took like 1800 shots, but I mean it was bourbon but you know
That was the only shots I took
But no it was bad I did catch it at the very beginning the first time I got it it was pretty bad
There was a time I thought I was gonna have to go to the hospital because I couldn't breathe real good
My oxygen level was dropping and you know, my lungs were hurting and so it was it was pretty bad there
And it probably took me a couple of months
Before I could fully get back because I do long and landscaping
So it was it was a couple of months before I could get back out in the heat and even breathe good
Well, you know, Kevin I've heard I've heard unvaccinated sperm is the next bitcoin
My son man, I want to make millions of yes
I can hook y'all. I can hook y'all up. I mean not literally, you know, I got a
Scott said he'll be on in a couple minutes. He said he's sick, but he'll come on
Pitbull, but gee hold on. I can't even talk pitbull, but cheeto
How do you say it wrong? I can't even talk you got it pitbull. Bushido. Yeah, okay
Oh, he popped on a second ago and said to tell everybody hello
He was on a call just call or something and wasn't sure that he could make it but he
He uh, he's gonna try to get on it a little bit if he can so
Well, I do have some uh bad news I do have to go eat dinner so i'm gonna jump off here
Yeah, so I apologize for that but um, what do you eat?
Yeah, you having some uh toast and baked beans
No, i'm not british no, we're not having any of that over here. Um, we're having some burgers and fries
Oh sweet like regular burger
No, not a deer burger and I wish the
I wish I could go for it for some nice deer jerky right now
Deer burger is a regular burger
I guess for Kevin it is down south it is buddy. Yeah
I love that man. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, I just yeah
I never heard that as part of the common. That's great
Yeah, venison burgers you get some venison chili. Oh, yeah
Oh, dude. Now you're speaking my language. We got the bison burgers here in Oklahoma
Uh, i've had some of those too
What is bison like? Is it real tough?
Um, it's just like ground beef mostly but it's just a lot leaner. I got you. It's a lot more healthy
It probably doesn't taste as good as beef. I don't think but
Yeah, everything kind of has its own flavor, you know, even deer kind of has its own flavor but
If you like it you like it if you grew up on it, it's all you know in some ways
Deer is great until you you know, it's every once in a while, man
You catch that fucking whip when you cut the windpipe. Yes, and that fucking
And that's what you taste me eating it and you're like, come on
You're like a bum was barbed on the table and your kids are like
And nothing that's when the smell is so bad. You can like take the back of your throat
You know what I mean though the windpipe. Oh, yeah, it's like it's like gut shot
It's like foul one shot by the gut
It's so when ship is not here now
So skellies is gonna have another man. I would highly suggest picking up a few
And um, it is when is that have they announced me and gee
No, not fucking be there. You get like a free man for holding a gen one
I think you have to hold ten. Isn't it? I just I made them watch ten sgk gnome things
Oh sweet back on the original met for the flower of life the next man. I would definitely hold a couple
Yeah, the flower of life is cool
You like post those on the discord or something if you're in our discord i've gone epic
Which one what what picture I mean what stk tatted on his chest brown dude with a hood on
Oh sweet alpha slayer, yeah
I'm actually gonna leave now, but see you guys. Uh, sorry for leaving a bit early and uh, i'll talk to everybody next week
Cool. Later on. See you. Run later. Run. I gotta sign off as well been a pleasure gentleman
Probably about five more minutes or so and then we probably wrap up so that's cool
Well, then i'm gonna jump off too. I got uh growing herd of kids and you know, my wife up there probably, you know
Until next week. Appreciate all y'all
Appreciate it. Fudo. Appreciate you
Nice food. Uh, hey i'm gonna send you also. Fudo almost sends you a dm. Like I got something I need to run by you
So i'll holler at you later
Ooh exciting sweet man. Hi buddy. Peace y'all you peace
We had dads in here, but he's gone now, is he
Yeah, that's all he was. Yeah, we've had several people had to hop off. We just filed
Anybody else from get updates from my soco
I do get some updates with
Any particular one or oh the current claiming issue?
It means that you're here
Something well the the one I guess everybody gets in about the tokens
I guess they have to put a certain amount of tokens in there to cover
Some of the stuff on their contract stuff and they hit run out of tokens. It's something that they do
we don't do nothing to do with
Our website has to do with their pact. So
They went in and added the tokens which should have fixed it. Uh
Part of the problem you run into is when you random mint or you ran I saw when you ran them clean
You know, it's trying to pull, you know, if you're doing five or ten or whatever out of a 3200
collection or 32 000 collection
And it just takes it takes some time to process through the whole 32 000 to get down
Whatever it's gonna pick so it really kind of slows things down
We were kind of joking the other night like that
As far as we know we were like the first ones that ever broke kadana
Literally, i'm not joking. They the soco called us and said we've had to reach out to kadana
We've actually this mint has actually broke kadana and they had to go and fix it
All right. So y'all are blaming me again
Well a soco loved it because they you know, they had slowed down on
The price of kadana was at 40 cents like
It was just it was hurting everybody so everybody slowed down and we were kind of keeping a soco working
like we were trying to build and
Do the marketplace and we had the gen ones and the weapons and so
It was allowing their marketplace to continue to build and grow and hurt and stronger and they were trying to grow it because when the bull
Hits, right? They want to be able to have more projects come in and nfts to mint and they wanted a different place to be like top notch
So all this really hard hard shit
We were throwing at them was building them and it was making them better
And so every time we talked they would just like thank you guys so much for
You know continuing to mint because it helps us work and build and fix and
Um, I know steven's in here with kadana, but he he feels that pain, you know
when you're trying to deal with wallets and you're trying to get wallet connects and having all these issues and
You're trying to man get these things together. It's yeah
It's a lot of shit going on if you're trying to work through and
And I and I had even told you guys some of the discord stuff like we're kind of the guinea pig, right? Because
At the time we were the only
You guys are having to deal with the problems and the issues that's unfortunate
But we're also making it better and faster and so asoka is going to get better and we're going to be smoother and
so that was kind of the objective too, so
Hopefully when the bull gets and everything takes off, you know as far as for asoko
hopefully they're gonna just Cadillac but
I don't know if there was a 32 000 collection has more and more weapons getting did those
collections get smaller and so it should speed up because it's having to
There's a there's a there was a lot of crazy
There's is a lot of crazy stuff going on
So and even so, you know even some of the pack issues when you talk to a mirror you're talking about
You know, we're still v1, but we're kind of waiting on v2
we're not even going to touch v2 for a while until all that gets kind of squared away and
There's there's some limitations with pact. So and we know the cadena team's working on it, but
We just have to work slow with them, you know as they come out and fix things and make it better than we can move
But it slows us down as well
If that ain't you know kind of answers any questions
But yeah, it's I mean it's
I love cadena. I love the pack. I like what they're trying to do, but there's you know, I like what mike's doing
I think he's going to bring a lot of stuff. It's going to help
It's going to bring in funding and more depth and things are going to get quicker and faster and better. So
I think we're just on the we're
We're on the right track. It's just gonna take a little bit more time
Hey chris, are you in our discord for the sjk? I've just literally jumped in it then
Yeah, what I was gonna say is if you want to post some of those I just chucked them in their little print screen
This freaking guy here. What?
Do you did he get something good?
Crap, I mean he's got a couple comments, but there's a few comments in there
Let's see if I can jump over here. So i'm i'm just gonna send you kitty game you freaking do all the money for me
Don't worry, man. I'll mint a legendary and they'll fucking rug. So
Oh, yeah, I love I love the blue skin
Now chris, I was gonna tell you like some of these images
You really kind of have to zoom in on because a lot of times there's a lot of details
Yeah, I see there's a lot of light on the belt on the fucking
little pouches. Yeah, there's
A lot of times in some of the glasses if you zoom in you can see it's got katie a on his glasses between his eyes
The only thing I wasn't wasn't pleased with was minting a block's belt
Like that what the hell am I to sell that one
Yeah, you got the dude with the green beard
Pat that was one of my designs. It was really cool because my son was wrestling in orlando tournament
And we had gone down there and we went to downtown disney
Was in a booth for sale and I picked it up and put it on
Took a picture of it and sent it to my brother and our artist and I said, I want this hat
I've just sent another hundred kadana to fucking chain eight. I've got the foma
I love the tool belts like the chest gauntlet all that stuff sick
One of them's got gold teeth
Yeah, there's some gold teeth. There's some different colored teeth the girl do with the green beard. He's got stitched lips
I think I've got two with stitched lips
Oh, no, it's the right one
I can't tell in the image but on some of them the white teeth if you zoom in
You actually see the heartbeat line
Like a heartbeat monitor. You'll see it's got like the little
There was one I was looking at maybe it's on this rare one
Yeah, you got the red one that's the bear
And it's showing everything going down. There's a bowl. It's green and it shows everything going up
All right, let's refresh and buy some more
I got a different game console. There's a lot of game stuff in here
Even on some of the beards if you zoom here
initialed in the attassals
What's the watch ones that foodo was on about
That's one of them is a flux
Yes, the flux tighten and then there's a kda
Like the tiki the tiki mask is one of mine and the beard was one of
I just got another five. We'll see it. See how we end up
Got the canana tattoo chain web on his chest I like that
They're pretty sick man, I love that
And the gen zeros are in the battle block zeros that are on a soco
There's a two collections that you stay on
These here when we get ready to build our next game which will be a top defense you'll be able to stake these for
This was a really fun collection it took a long time because the art what's this one here cadena on the moon
Is that the rocket with the smoke trail behind it yeah, yeah moon in the hand this fucking one looks pretty mad
Yeah, we got in here one we were all addicted we all just started buying and mint pictures and
The comp what's interesting, you know when you do the artwork in the nft's you you do all these different
But until you put them put them in the mentor and they put them all together
The combination is going to come out
So I see some like I love the traits, but when you really start putting the combination into them, it's like, holy crap
That's cool. Like I didn't expect that
Yeah, it's a lot of diversity there
I kind of want to mint another five
Want to try and pull a lot of a legendary just to piss Hank off
Yeah, I know the one that gets the kda watch is one
Fudo is going to be after you
Yeah, I managed I managed to get the flux watch but
I haven't been able to get like I said the tree of life one the shirt. What's the trail?
Well, it's just like it's a white t-shirt and it's got the tree
It's actually a representation of our family tree
That's kind of what we were going for and then it shows below it like there's the root system underneath and inside the roots
You'll see the roots are woven
And to create k2 creative which is the parent company
Let's see, I'll spend 500 cadena and I say
Well, hopefully you'll get one honestly, I hope you do
Just posted in the discord
The one with the oh, yeah, it's a south Baltimore tattoo with the flux
But there's a kda watch just like it. I mean, but it's the black
And then of course, you know, we had already met did now
What the Casper watch they've come up with a Bitcoin watch and
They've got another flux watch but it's black
Are these these are going to be stakeable though? Yeah, they will be in the future. They're not at the moment
Right now the only ones that are fake
Of course, they're minted out. So they're just on the secondary market, but they're still on a soco
But they get you claimed weapons every seven days. The battle blocks heroes get you a weapon claim every 10 days
The battle box hero is going to be basically gatekeep function to the game. But if you own
A key for everything in kadana. I mean everything in sjk. They're like the og collection
I'll sit on them see what they do
Anybody else wants to chat wants to jump up here
Stephen you might want to give an update on
Hey, hold on cross chain takes sometimes cross chains forever
I've even got like like uh
My kmc stuff my monitors and stuff. I usually have them just pay out straight chain. They just
I mean they do but I'd rather just keep some stuff on chain eight. Then when we decided to go more
We had to move to chain eight so
I've only got stuff on chain one and zero. I never let them zero a lot of stuff
Yeah, I have a lot of stuff that does they go chain one chain zero
Were they chain 13 or something?
I think that's where they started off at so i'd kind of spread a little bit out
Try to keep more on chain name
Used to have chain two, but I don't need to buy bit anymore because they don't allow uk
All right, let's refresh let's get 10 more
Let's just have I get this black fucking kda watch
Well, I have a feeling several of us would probably be jealous I want one too that would be tasty, wouldn't it?
Even with dan keller with uh floods. So when we were actually when we were in design
We were you know, I took some pictures of the actual watches and sent them to the artist
I was like, hey, can you draw this and he was like, yeah
He started drawing on and it blew us away at how good the artist was drawing it because he did everything on an iPad
So it was just extremely detailed but
Uh, even alan and they were they both loved it. So
Well them watches weren't a bad idea
Yeah, we were trying to come up with a few more traits and I had just pre-ordered the two watches and that's what I just
I reached out to my brother and I was like
For the community because you could tell even a lot of our stuff. We you know, we've got wizard arena stuff in it
You know, there's a different
And and sadly enough halfway through the art design
The artist had drawn some different art pieces and then the projects went under
And we had to go back and we wasted an art trade because he drew it
But then we had to go back and remove it and add something different
So you kind of run into that too. Just like you put somebody's project in your art if something happens to that project then
You're kind of stuck with the art but
We felt like the ones that we picked to be in there were pretty solid so we didn't figure they were going anywhere
All right, these ten have landed and see what I got
Nope, I don't have a gas mask. What the fuck is this?
A jack camera. Come on post them
Oh, yeah, is it like the the jack camera i'm caught with hand? I got two gas mask dudes
Oh sweet, I don't even have a gas mask
All right, let's have a look I don't even know which are new and which are old to be honest
Was trying to get a soco to
Put them in your wallet in the order that you met them
So you could kind of keep up because I think we were having that problem. Everybody was on I think even
When you met you didn't know which one was which I was actually taking screenshots
And then would met and then go back and compare to see which one was missing
Yeah, it kind of becomes a blur when you got a bunch of balls
I know man that the watches are pretty rare
That's the hard part is you're meant hoping for a watch. That's why I was lucky I even got the flux
But there are more there are more fluxes than the kda so
I don't know if it was one percent
I'm telling you it's going to be a big deal. Somebody gets a freaking watch because so many people are trying to get that
I've done all right. I've got a fair few res
That's solid though, that's sweet post them yeah post them i'll do some screens
You gotta expose that stuff too, you know when i'm on my laptop, I don't know why it comes up as a different twitter account
Well, he's got some bears oh hell sorry I wouldn't even pay attention
Yeah, what he's got a rogue
White shirt, that's nice. Yeah
I think i've only seen like one other of those
Come on paste the last one you've seen that one
I like the gray here with the man buzz. What's up? Kevin? How's it going, man?
Good buddy. How are you? Oh just in the middle of ipfsing. You know how that goes
Yeah, just sending all those images up
Into storage now for the mint
And so sweet how's it coming? I see you were making some progress with the wallets. Yeah, that's all done now
All we have left is koala
Upload the images and then it's time to go
As uh, I see you were having a little more trouble with the links wallet
Yeah, it turned out wallet connect doesn't even work for kendana nfts
Like there's some really there's some problems with it the minting
Function, I think they saw it in our play. I don't know if it's sorted for minting, but I can wallet connect again from links
Yeah, they fixed it this morning or something, but there's
Some problems with wallet connect and so it's just you know
What's the point of even supporting it if it doesn't work for kendana?
Right right throw it in the yeah
It's good though. Well, that was kind of good
I did a lot of stuff with echo, you know
Forever I was putting stuff just minting with my echo address, but I wanted to kind of go with koala
So yeah, well, it's good. It's just links. It has no extension
No browsers. Yeah, I had more trouble
I think I had more trouble with koala just because it was more complicated to send them out. Yeah, I got you. You know
That I was trying to stay with echo but
It's okay. I mean, I kind of want to put some stuff on koala. I know they'll eventually get there. So I don't really plan to
Yeah, I got you. I wanted I wanted yours to go ahead and
Because it ain't like i'm gonna mint this thing and then try to sell it like i'm in it
You know what? I mean i'm in your project. So
Yeah, yeah, I got you. Oh, I wanted it somewhere safe secure
But I don't have to worry about you know, i'm not i'm not minting 10 of them
I'm only minting one. So say echo is probably the best wallet just works
It just works. Yeah, all the other wallets
There forever it was kind of like you were saying with echo was there really wasn't like
Like who do you reach out and talk to?
Whereas a real life person like kobe you can
Reach out and talk to them. So
There's pros and cons to each level
Yeah, we almost gave up and just wrote our own wallet it while it's while it's don't do anything
They just sign a transaction. They're almost useless technology
It's just it's not required if you know what you're doing
But lots of people just like to hold their
Their money in a wallet for some reason. I don't know why but uh, I guess it just makes life easier when all your crap is
like in zelkor and it's in one place and zelkor is like
Stinks in like every category, but it stinks in every category rather than just like two or three
So if you can do anything else
But it's like you could just write a wallet like I could probably write a wallet in a week
Probably in my opinion and have it in the browser. It's that easy
I don't know. You got to do like a custody solution that that's the only part that sucks
Like you can't watch people's private keys, right and stuff like that. So you have to hide it behind
So there's some things you gotta do but
Like the wallets are not great on cadena and I can't wait for cadena just to like do it
They should just spend a million dollars of their own money
Making phantom wallet and then just toss the other wallets into the core of the sun. So we never have to see them again
If your links address is the same as zelkor do you need to post a new wallet for
The kingsmen or you're good. Yeah, we suggest you don't if you had a links
Links wallet just change to one of the other it doesn't matter because they all just sign
They don't do anything about assignment transaction. Anyway, so
Just use the any wallet that's safe echoes very safe
Um, they're just you know, they might suck at customer service, but it works
And it hasn't failed once. I don't know. It was one old failure in six weeks of dev. So
I would suggest changing to echo and it's just we would rather use links
But just links doesn't build a wallet extension and cadena
It's not going to pay them to do that. So I don't think they're ever going to do it
And until wallet connect is for sure serious tech that we could use
We're just not going to use it
Because it was breaking for a mirror and it was breaking for
Who else was it breaking? It was breaking for links and they were like spending four or five days trying to figure it out
Maybe this morning it's fixed. But you know, Kevin, would you trust that with your business?
Like no, like do you use wallet connect?
I feel the same. Yeah, i'm cautious on i'm cautious and slow on a lot of things and one being
UK and one is my personal, you know, my personal business outside of
You gotta be careful. I like solids. I like security. Yeah, absolutely
Yeah, I feel the same way. And so like when I was using wallet connect
I don't know this might be boring or whatever but
I'm like trying to hook it up and i'm getting random errors worse than packed even like worse errors than packed like that's pretty hard to do
I'm getting errors that make no sense and like there's no
Documentation at all on their entire website. There's supposed to be some billion dollar
wallet connection ultra solution
And the documentation doesn't even work. And then when I got it all the way done like I battled man
Like there's no help, right? You just do it
And then so I get it all the way done and it comes to the point where cadena didn't even index their blockchain
So they have like a repo of all the blockchains
Right and so like you can type cadena and then wallet connect knows you want to connect to cadena
Well, randy forgot to like register the damn wallet
And i'm like randy. What are you doing? Like get on that two weeks ago
And like he just doesn't listen doesn't care. I mean, he's probably a nice guy. I don't really know him
But like maybe you want to index your wallet
So that you know 90 of the world can use them about like I guess they don't care because they're building this new wallet
So my hope is that it's like it's good. Like just be good. Please be good like phantom wallet. Yeah
And then maybe we got a chance to to grow
That's my yeah, I think I think so
You know a couple of years ago probably the first time you guys were here
Well, I would listen to them in a ma spaces and they would talk about
You know, if you have problems or issues reach out to the team we're here to help we're here to
You don't know how many times I want to jump in the a ma really like are you sure?
Like can I hold can I can I hold you accountable because we've tried multiple times that can't get me
Yeah, talk was very cheap and you know, there weren't really many packed delves in in kadana like for the teams to use, you know
They're like, well, you know, they really kind of wanted some of the teams to be developers
And i'm like, look I get on some of these other blockchains salada a theory on like there's tons of people out there that are creating projects
that have not a lick of knowledge of
Which they weren't doing pack. Of course, it was more evm stuff, but
You could hire a developer
Anywhere to build you something there were people creating nft projects and doing stuff that couldn't tell you anything about pack development
I mean about you know developing
So I was like there needs to be developers here that know pack that you know for those of us that are not developers
That want to create a project that we can hire them to build us stuff
So I feel your pain there, you know
All right, i'm gonna bounce gents
All right, dude, man i'm telling you
I was going through some of those you got some sick sick stuff, man
All right, we'll talk to you later on yeah, see you later gents
Yeah, yeah, I guess I can close it off with the point maybe like uh
Yeah, you know like I think developers in general
When they come to a block it's already hard to make things in an asynchronous
Code environment. That's what it is distributed code
You're firing distributed code off and it's hard because you can only talk through transactions in an api like you can't just
You know, it's hard to simulate things
On your own computer because it's not the blockchain, right?
So it's very difficult to do that already, but when you like throw no error messages impact no documentation
Whatever the dx team did is like should be again thrown into the core of the sun as fast as possible
Like it's not even a relative or respective of the real pipeline development. So we at the kings we've been
We've been pushing that experience to about 50 or 60 active people who are interested
So we're we're like distributing the experience and of building this app
And so people are starting to see because like we every day we write down everything we do right in our little coding channel and discord
So everyone sees what's going on. They're always coming on live asking questions and stuff
And then they see like oh, here are the real problems of kadena
And you're you're new at things
You don't know what that problem is because the error message is complete
Okay, it's like, you know, it's like me going down to new orleans trying to speak french from canada
It's not going to translate too. Well, you know, it's a different way of speaking down there
And so like you're trying to speak to kadena because kadena doesn't come around and actively help too many projects, right?
They're not like, you know beating down your door to teach your devs how to code
So like you got to figure it out on your own you're on your own here and that's okay
So if you're on your own you're trying to figure it out
And you're getting back these shitty error messages from packed which apparently just got fixed in packed five
You're not yeah developing anything. You're sitting there like trying to figure out
What did I do wrong and there's nobody to tell you
Except a mirror. Maybe if you're lucky to get a mirror on your channel, maybe that's good
So there's that and then there's like no documentation and then there's the wallets and that's easily 50 percent of your build time
Right there. So like it took us 45 days to get good at packed from zero
And so that could have been 22 days to be honest if they just had error messaging and
Yeah, that's pretty quick to be honest with you. I mean for pack
Yeah, I mean I know people that started trying to learn pack and they've been trying to learn for a year, you know
Yeah, I got you. I'm a functional programmer though. So it comes naturally. Well, yeah
It'll be quicker for you. I know I know
Pascal pretty well, so it just makes sense to me but still
45 days is not trivial, but it could have been 22 days
Well, like it could have been 22. I was gonna say though
Like I know we've talked about Ahsoka before but have you ever had the opportunity to talk to idea?
With the psycho team, you know, I never had the pleasure to meet them. I i'm more of a 2021
So all the cats I don't know too well
Uh, he knows me more than he wants to do that's for sure right
He's pretty solid pretty solid impact
Like I think I mentioned something a while back about introducing y'all because like pack stuff
He knows his shit. I mean we've had some pretty detailed conversations
Of course, naturally he gets over my head really quick because i'm not
in good at any of that, but
I've seen him fix a lot of stuff
I mean i've seen him call the canada team and tell him what the hell they broke and what what needs to be done
Fix it and they go in and do it like shit. He's kind of
He's kind of more a mirrors level, you know
But he's not as out there as a mirror
So yeah, and yeah, it's just like there's like these closet bits of knowledge, right?
There's no repository or central place of this knowledge to distribute to newcomers and so
Imagine you're a dev and you come on. I know the first thing
Any developer is going to do because naturally you're lazy as a programmer
And so you come on you don't see documentation. It's hard to use
I'll just go code solidity. That's exactly what's yeah
And a lot of it's different, especially if you're doing different things
But like we set up a github and I think Ahsoka does the same thing, but I mean anything that we have done
Code wise packed wise or whatever
That stuff is there but you got to go
Look at what it is see the difference because if somebody decides they want to do like we do they
You know 32 different collections
And claim weapons and there's 32 000 weapons and you want to do something big like the codes already there
It's already written. It's just on our sgk github. You just got to go get it. So
So you guys won't you guys won't do ng or you're going you're going to do v2, right ng's like perfect
A lot of the conversations that we have
You know, we sat down at the very beginning like which direction do we go?
And so they you know, we sat out with the pros and the cons
And kind of you know what the goal is long term
We wanted to go marmalade
And we were switching to chain eight and
And you know really talking to the asoka team where
It was kind of at the time. It was best to go v1, but I don't think it's a full v1. I think it's kind of a
So but it's positioned where it can do multiple things
Their recommendation was let's say v1 with you and how everything's going because we were also looking at financially too is
I don't want to go ng and then
Switch to this but then if v2 comes out and we switch to that like that
We've got to pay all these, you know pack dubs to convert everything and I was like we we need to
We need to do what can operate function now
But with the long term goal of where we want to be so we're hoping down the road with the marmalade
But we hope v2 eventually gets to where it needs to be and things are fixed and it's an easy transition over
Yeah, so my my opinion it can never never do that
Just now that I know the architecture very deeply
Right v2 design decisions is what holds it back. It's not great. And then
Did you know that in um ng that there's a butter to ng
There's a butter to ng function that could port your entire
With like seamlessly. It's already there pascal already coded it. He's really smart
So he coded up v1 and butter standard transference functions. They're already there. They're on mainnet right now
And like you could take your collection and it wouldn't do anything
It would just transfer it all into another table right with your tokens intact
And then you can test it out. But just to give you an idea of why we chose that it's just
It's because all the little things you need to do with your nft
With respect to ng are embedded in the token itself. So the token hash itself
Has the information embedded in it
Um, and it's just very simple and clean the way those policies connect there. They separate the ledger from the policy
Which is really yes in the way we're building
A lot of the back end is not going to be packed
It's going to be built off on its own platform, but it'll have wallet connect functions. So
It'll just pull data from somewhere else and it won't be as much packed. But I just we need to be able to know
If steven's burnt and claimed and upgraded when he connects his wallet, which weapon you're using in game pulls that in
I think some of that backing is going to be less packed your smart contract up right now on mainnet
It has to be right. Yeah, of course. It must be yes or is it still in testnet?
Like the gnomes main game contract is it in where your nfts are stored in your table?
Yeah testnet or mainnet like you're taking real money on mainnet right now, right?
Yes, oh cool. I might just go look at your contract because it's public it's open source, right? So
Correct. Correct. I'll just see if ng like not i'm not trying to like sell anything to you or anything
Bro, I might just try to like import it to ng just to see if that function actually works
No, I mean I have conversations with you and I have conversations with a mayor
You know, we talk back and forth and we dm and he tells me things
So-co and then things that you guys we discuss and talk about it bring up to them
And then we look at what i've already got and where we're at and you know kind of what the best
scenario for us at the point where we're at and where we're going and
Yeah, we kind of look at the big pictures
The thing is is that butter standard is just or v1 even I would call them almost deprecated now
because v2 is on mainnet now too like you could probably
Try to transfer things to v2, but those old
Those old marmalade standards have a lot of issues. I think when you're dealing with marketplaces
And I don't think we have one yet a real one, right? Like you can't sell your no, I don't
And even as socos even told us not to do like where we're at now. Don't try v2
It won't work. It won't work quite right now
Because they're still working but right and we don't even have marketplace yet, but it's like
It's coming soon. And so that knowledge has to be
Has to be free and handy and then able to so I just hope that
You know a mirror keeps around and that knowledge can stay here because without that guy like a lot of us would be struggling, man
Because he knows all the little things about v2 that you know would take us six months to figure out because cadena talks to him
So it's like nice to know that but that's good
Well, and it's nice to know that he kind of knows too what's going on on the cadena team side. He has input
You know he he can kind of reach in there and make things happen. So
I know we've got a few more minutes before we're probably going to try to wrap it up. I didn't know if uh
Pitbull wanted to hop in are you here listening? I'm here. I just
Was I missed all the fun because uh, I got all I got called in
No, that's cool, man. Yeah, we've had some great conversations over the last couple of hours
Yeah, I got uh, I I now on one of my side things is interpreting
And I got a call down for the police station
Somebody got arrested and needed an interpreter. So I had to go down there
All morning and then tomorrow they're flying me off somewhere else to go do some stuff somewhere else. So just getting busy
Hey, I bet you didn't know I was an interpreter too
Yeah, like I can interpret redneck
Uh, hey, did you get your katana yet though?
But supposedly if it comes to 19th like dude
I'm like i'm like the kids sitting out there on the front porch delts. Just watching the driveway
It should be coming ups. I mailed it from the ups store. So
Uh, it should be there. I have the tracking number somewhere
I'll have to track it myself, but they told me the 19th and then you should also be getting your poster
So if you get a tiny little package, don't worry. It's not the katana
No, that's cool man, we've had such that we had an arctic blast, you know here so everything's
In the south. Well, everywhere's frozen. So
It could show up ups tomorrow. It could be a couple of days delay. I'm not sure what the weather's done to it
But nowadays i'm i'm so pumped like I got it
I sent it to myself first because I wanted to check the quality of it like, you know, I wouldn't go out, you know
Go hog wild, you know slicing everything up, but
It's yeah, yeah, it's it's it's okay. It's pretty good. It's pretty nice. It's also got a blue blade
So, uh, it's kind of a purplish like a deep blue
So it kind of goes with the whole integrity theme. So that should be fun
Well, it was funny because we went to I can't even think of them
You know you guys are for me with like the dixie stampede and all that they do the whole north and the south thing
They got one in florida. We were in orlando, but it wasn't the dixie stampede. It was like with the knights
So we went to a medieval time
I told my son we were wrestling in a tournament and I said, hey dude, if you can place the hat because they have the
They call it the christmas knockout
But I was like if you place in this tournament like i'll get you a sword
And he was like so pumped so he placed
He did really really well placed
And so that night we went to dinner
We went down there my sword and he's got it up in his room and so
I was just like I was so pumped because I was like oh dude i'm getting a sword too
So he's all jealous now. He's all jealous that i'm getting one
You can get uh, unfortunately, it doesn't come with a display stand, but they got them on amazon
So you can even display it like, you know, just a regular old katana
Displaced it but then um, we're planning on doing one for every virtue
I think it's is it respect. It's the second one, right?
Or is it honor? I can't remember so it's integrity respect honor
Heroic courage now the heroic courage one is pretty cool because i've already got the katana picked out. It's all red
And then um, i'm thinking about doing one final special giveaway
Tokugawa which you know is the main the main character
And for that one, I have a special katana picked out that is actually more of the the larger size katana like the commander sword
Uh, it's gonna be over the course of the year because like, you know, i i'm just buying this stuff out of pocket
No, it's kind of just like, you know, it's just it's just to keep it's just to keep the project alive until we have some
Some sort of breakthrough at some point
But uh, we're gonna be doing uh, next up is uh
Is the ninja collection, but I think what we're we're planning is uh to burn off some of the samurai because
Uh, we gave out like 538 of them and then we've minted
I mean, I guess we've been to almost 500 now and then uh, we have uh, we have another you know
I've bought some for giveaways, you know, and then
We're gonna probably burn off some of the collection and then use uh use some of the other ones for um
So that we can make make room for the ninja now
The ninjas are pretty cool because uh, we're kind of we're doing the same thing like a theme with numbers
So, uh, it's gonna be they're gonna be by the season of the seasons of the year and the times of the times of day
So, uh, it's all kind of planned out but uh
And most of the artwork's already done, but we're just kind of waiting for an opportune moment to drop it. So
Well, I I love the project. I love what you guys are doing and I really love
You know, I mean i've I think i've kind of been in it since day one now
A lot of them and like I said, I haven't had time to go in there yet, but i'm so ready to like start
Getting my 47 straight so I can get the deck of playing cards
It's kind of one of those things of i'm hoping that
You know once things pick up again and then for everybody like because I know most everybody got them for free
Uh, well, I mean I say for free but yeah, obviously they got them as a reward for having mentioned the calling k-9
That's a whole another issue
We had this whole story thing planned out with them and everything but that's kind of just gone the way of
Everything else so there we're gonna we we resurrected it but just for trading purposes
uh, and that those should be up eventually
tradable, but for now everybody's just got uh, a v2 of the kawaii k-9s air dropped and then
Uh, we're kind of just concentrating on slowly minting out as many
You know eeking out as many of the samurai as we can
And the k-9s are like see on a soco now, aren't they?
You they're they're not necessarily live like you can use them if you log in like if you log in with your wallet
You should you can see them. They're viewable
But not not trading yet and then they're still of that collection
There's still a bunch left that haven't been minted and we're trying to come up with an idea about how to
To give those out because we're wanting to free mint the rest of those out to everybody
Kind of just back burner right now because I know a soco is like bogged down with with everything and then you know
I don't want to put too much on them right now. And so just kind of
yeah, you know, we'll see we'll see how it goes over this year, but
Tentatively, uh, we're wanting to see about launching the ninjas by march
Um, and then as far as the card game goes, uh, we have a lot of that worked out
We have a lot of the rules worked out. We have a lot of the idea how that's going to work out
We have bonus cards that we're wanting to do, you know, all this kind of ideas and stuff that we're working on
Things will get things will get better once once uh, once some of our investments kind of go up in value
Right. Yeah, it's kind of kind of got a lot hinging on waiting for things to turn around
We were going to do something of the same thing with arcade at the very beginning with our jet heroes
We had plans to work with arcade
For like everybody who owned
Like an 80s bull all the bolt holders got a free gen zero like we were trying to benefit their
group the problem with it was is
Their marketplace system wasn't set up to handle that so
something free that we couldn't
Well, I was originally talking to arcade
Uh, and actually they had approved us to launch with them for bibble bushito and and it was you know
It's going to be you know, it was the plan
Kind of had issues with uh, like
some of their some of their uh community had been burned by other projects and then they were
You know going on, you know minted this minted that you know
And so I I backed out because i'm like I just said I i've just I was like, you know
I remember that yeah, I gotta know I have enough other issues to deal with I can't deal with gatekeepers, too
so i'll just get a bow out and then uh, we'll try to find another way and then
You know, we'll we're trying to we're trying to do something. It is different like i'll grant you it is different
Because we're doing you know, the nft set up like, you know, they're they're individual if there's 47 characters
But you know, you got to collect all of them
And if we burn off some then that's really gonna that's really gonna affect the rarities
Because I know that there's been more of certain characters that have minted
So we'd end up burning off then the original plan is like 47 people maximum
We'll ever be able to collect all 47
Now mathematically, that's not possible because I know some were sent to dead wallets
Because that's just the way it is. A lot of people lose their keys, you know, whatever
And so I was like, well now we're probably down to about 30
They can ever collect all of them
And then if we burn then i'm like probably maybe a dozen to 15 people maximum will ever have all of them
Right and then um, so that's kind of like that would be the gold standard
And then if anybody ever gets the all 47 then obviously yes, it's the physical reward of the cards and uh
You know and then some other bonuses towards like free collections and down the road which would be add-ons to the card game
So we have ideas. We got a lot of a lot of are really good
But it's just a matter of time. So anyway, well it and it is and you do I mean we were dealing with
So our first gen zero man was free, you know, it was just free and
We had a lot of people jumping in and just free minting from all over the world and then once they meant
Yeah, I mean it was that was like crazy
The mint went nuts people were able to mint more than they were opposed to we couldn't stop like it was just it was
A catastrophe in a way, but I mean thanks good
But then at the flip side of that, you know
Now that we're doing some energy I was looking the other day there's out of that thousand and fifty collection there's
There's only a couple hundred holders
So but not everybody's taking them, you know, we don't know
So when we start looking at our thirty two thousand collections and weapon claiming and then the battle heroes are claiming
You know, how long does we estimated how?
For those weapons to claim out all the way the legendary but there's going to be a lot of people who don't
You know stake and get it so it could last a little bit longer
But then by that point, we'll probably be introducing new characters, you know, we have the mage and all. Yeah
so and then I think like one of the things I was thinking of is like
some way of doing like a integration like if you if you could ever be like
Use like if you wanted to ever use like some of our characters
I was like because because what we're doing is we're doing very very similarly
But but only rewards and physical now
I would eventually like to do an online version where it's basically like online solitaire
Uh, you know or something like that or or you know
Where you just kind of come in and you just kind of are playing against but instead of solitary you're like playing against somebody else
But you only have access to whatever decks or whatever characters you actually hold
But I we kind of wanted to steer away from that and keep it more of like physical rewards
Which is kind of funny because that's that's actually becoming what the whole nft sphere push is like
Like, you know have it as a deed for your property or have it as a as a you know proof of ownership or whatever
So it kind of a way it's similar to that and where it would be tied to something physical
It's kind of it is it is it is different like for us because
It takes a while to explain because i'm like, well, okay, so there's 47 characters. Yes, there's uh, I mean
Potentially 2,200 and I think nine that are mintable
Uh 1,000 I think 17 have been minted
Once we get to around half of that is probably I mean, I don't know unless things pick up
I would imagine by the time we're around half minted is when we burn the rest of the collection
And that that'll that'll shake it up
That'll make things different
And if anybody wants to collect then
Then you're going to have to trade with each other to finish your deck
And you know, I was you know, I was learning about something the other day that I wasn't aware of
I thought was kind of interesting because we were looking at some different options as far as weapons and stuff
But you know swarms has their dal and you can actually set up basically like a
Burn function wallet within their dal
So instead of burning them you can just have them sent to the dal wallet
And you're not really burning them, but you are locking them away
And yeah, yeah, like I just sent them to a dead wallet. I i've known somebody else that did that on ethereum
Uh, which you know, I I don't touch ethereum anymore. The gas fees are just I mean, they're stupidly expensive
I randomly opened one of my old eath wallets to see about claiming like I was literally going to claim
11 dollars of something it was 11 dollars worth of a token the gas fee was 1800 bucks
Yes, I just I just shut it. Never mind
Yeah, that's the only thing you're talking about getting out of it. We
Think of eath a while ago
In the same way i'm not an eath guy
There's things on eath projects that I like and i'd love to be involved in but I just refuse to pay the eath gas things
Like there's a there's a marketplace. I know there's a team of guys that I know
That have their bill in the marketplace
It's called create space and like they're they're doing their thing where it's gonna somehow it's still on eath
But it's it's supposed to be zero gas like nft trading and I don't know how they're working it
Obviously, they haven't figured it all out yet because it's not done yet. I think they have a beta out
But like I was telling them I was like, well, maybe
You know in the future you should consider, you know migrating another chain and I think their second option was cosmos
For and I would I think for us like it's just me and christina. It's just the two of us
And so you're like I grant you we're not a massive project
Uh, but we kind of do it. We do it for fun and it is it is a it is fun
like we enjoy doing it we have a lot of ideas, but it's uh
It's I think I think what's going to be the holdup is
I think nfts are just kind of struggling right now
I think I think with cadena even it's kind of funny because like when cadena drops in value i'm like
Well, I if I were in the process of trying to
Collect I would be minting nfts now
But the time the time when we'll actually see minting go on will be you know when cadena's, you know worth
More and people spending more and it's like but see at the same time i'm i'm trying to keep prices low for everybody
Five dollars, you know five dollars per per character and then you know, take a gamble
See if you can collect them
I've withdrawn some to use for for different parts of the project like uh
comic book strips and and everything like that, but
It's just slow. But anyway, it's good. It is and I was kind of shocked a little bit with that because
You know like when people are paying all these crazy fees and especially all the gas fees
You know our gen ones were 20 kda, you know a while back and it was 40
45 cents a coin you're thinking man
They're you're not even paying ten dollars for the thing and the gas is practically free
And so I was just shocked at how I figured things would have sold faster, but people are tight or holding their kda
Lord the people the money that they were spending on that and the gas fees was I mean you could have owned five gen ones
Just for what you would have paid in the theory of gas
Well, like my work around for eth back in the day was
When we first got into nfts, we did a collection on eth
But I I minted the collection myself
So, uh, I didn't I only had to pay one flat one flat fee
I think it was like 45 for me to mint like 1200 characters
That was mainly for us to like to test to beta tests like
Collections and how they work that that one was generated now. I will throw this out there what we're planning
Is I know we're talking like massive numbers of nfts. We are planning like a larger collection
Uh, and it's going to be a goblin horde
which would be uh, which is
Which is going to also be based off of a dog and whichever dog reminds you the most of a goblin
That's that's the breed we picked
But uh, it it's going to be like a collection of I mean that one would probably be closer to like 10 000 or whatever
But that one is probably going to be like half a katie each
But uh, that one would be for fun and generated but until that point each character christina draws
We're doing it kind of a little bit different trying to trying to keep it fresh kind of trying to keep it different
And you know once things pick up they pick up. So
Well, yeah, and that was one of the reasons too while we kind of like arcade because when we first went I mean, uh,
I'm, sorry asoko when we first went to
They really would net us a collection over 2000. They were just saying it's too large. It won't
We know it's not gonna make out
We're also a gaming project
So, you know, we know down the road there's gonna be more people coming to kadana more people
Gate, you know gate key function to the game
I mean if we go out there and do a 1500 collection, what are we going to do when there's
10 000 people on kadana and they're going to play our game
Did you has anybody checked in on uh,
What what's their names the ones that had the the first person shooter game that they were launching on kadak?
Because I saw I don't know if anybody else saw the news, but did you see the ak-47's skin for counter strike?
It's like worth like two point two point three million bucks
Because somebody finally found it
So like all these years later somebody finally finds this one particular like like a pearly sheen
You know skin and i'm like see that that that right there is where nft's and gaming would would work
Because then you can just sell it like you could sell the skin that you have like for a character or something
Yeah, but kind of what you were saying earlier with the slowing down a minute tease. I mean
I think everybody went through the pfp thing where everybody was just buying it
But I think now people are more focused on real world assets
They want something of value type to it not just so I mean some people are into the art don't get me wrong and that's
That's kind of why we did our gen one, you know, I mean it was
It was very artistic. There's a lot of art detail, you know
Because we wanted to attract people who loved art
But then also it was really cool stuff for people who were into the gaming who wanted to get one to play so
I think that I think the nft stuff did slow down some but I think that's because they're looking for the you know
The real world assets so they want to see some value to it
Tired like what what I did is what I did very way in the beginning is when I when the nft because I have a feeling
That eventually things may even come back as far as pfp's but yeah, see like I collected
The some a few of the punks I ended up giving a lot of away
I also, uh, I mainly collected the komodos because I like the I like the komodos
Uh, so I I collected those just for fun
And then I think some of the apes
Uh, I collected some of them just just just you know, just in case something ever
It's not just the case. It makes it go. I mean
I'm with you on it. I think I've probably
Every single nft project that has been on kadana even the rugged ones. I mean
It was kind of an investment too
For me that I looked at you know
I mean, uh, it's one of those things that I knew when we got back into the bull and people come in and they go
They're gonna want them and the value is gonna go up and I get if I want to sell half of them for profit to get my
Return on investment and then also i've got a few left that I can keep for me
It's even what wealthy people do, right?
I mean it's like it's like gold or digital gold
Well, like like for me with the wizards like wizards arena
I meant it. I well, I don't even remember if I meant it
I think I missed a couple of them, but I I bought some you know
Because there's always this these random weirdos that mint them and then they list them for below mid price, right?
So, uh, I go through and I fix them up
All I do is I stake them about every about every three months I go in there and I claim to stay
And so well, I mean that's I've been making some kda doing that
You know, I mean, I think I just unstaked like I think I just
converted like the last time I
I converted all of my wiz tokens. I think it was like a hundred kda or something, you know
Yeah, and I was doing the same thing
I think that we found our one of our farmers for wizards
I I mean look somebody I saw somebody comment the other day that they make you more kda than the kmc mining club
And i'm kind of wondering I think it's true
No, it really is it was doing really well until the hat
And then when that happened, it kind of slowed down with you know, the the wizard but no
Let's take two and that's all I was doing with them at the time
I mean I play every now and then but i'm like i'm like i'm kind of a hoarder
So like for me i'm like i'm thinking of two things like everybody's like, you know
I see like everybody's like, you know, buy you know, buy this token buy that token buy. Uh, what is it?
And i'm like and I had a bunch of that
And then I uh, we won't even talk about jody, you know right there and then i'm like, um
So i'm like actually if I was gonna buy a thousand kda worth of any token, it would probably be with
Wizards token right now and then just hold that and see what happens. Well and wizards
Isn't it? What is it? It's close to 50 cents a coin
Is that right? I think five. It's uh, oh zero four five right now. Oh, so it's 0.5 0.05. Okay. Yeah
No, I I agree. I mean I was
I did the same thing in rk, you know, i've staked my bulls. I've staked everything earning coins
Uh, and i'm in some salata projects, you know, I like the stone sloths. I like the lunar dolls
I get those I stake them and I just let them build coins
You know, i'm just hoping that I have good bags of the value
Well, I got I mean like my my thing is i've got
I have a good amount of kda, but honestly
It's kda. It's kda that I bought because all of the kd a lot of the kda that I made by mincing projects
I I gave away and giveaways. I I used it. I you know used it to try to
Uh build out the project in other ways
So like most of the cadena i'm holding I bought
So it's like uh, like I would be nice if I if I could mint out some more just to you know
Make some passive and if you know make some passive kda because another another way where selling fts is handy is uh
Is uh, it's just you know, it's a nice way to passively be making some more kda along the way
We'll see. Uh, I think we'll see. Uh, I i i'm always surprised because I log back in I check it
I check it every now and then I don't check it every day
But I do log into isoko and I and I just check and see if any minted and I think this past week
We've minted like five more, you know, so i'm like, okay nice
And then uh, okay, so there's some forward that's always nice
So it's nice to you know, go on to a new week and see that the numbers changed a little bit
Uh, yeah, I was I was talking to uh, ron wolf the other day and she made a comment something
I didn't even think about and I was kind of like
Wanted to like slap myself, but she was like what i'll do is she's like every so often
I go in there and see how much whiz uh i've earned
Where I can convert that to kda and then learn hundred I turn around and just buy another
Stake it and now i've got another one. I'll let it buy me another one to keep my staking going
Geez, I never even thought about that. Well, like with with uh, one of the things that I want is I want to get a uh,
A druid i'm going to get one of the druid characters. Yes
But I don't I don't have enough. I don't have enough
Kda in my fun wallet right now to to do that
So i'm kind of just waiting to see if anybody drops one that i'll uh, i'll pick it up
Hank you may have saw this today too and I don't remember who said it but
Somebody like went on the site and posted two of them for like 35 kda
They didn't know what they were doing
They haven't really did because uh for price right now is like a hundred and
I mean that's going for like the bare minimum for spells
And I like I have rings and stuff like I have a ring of speed and I have a ring of
But I think I have like a plus six speed ring or whatever
I'm trying to figure out like how much the rings are worth because I will admit my current wizard is like
My wizard is like, uh, I mean i've won some rounds with him
But you know, like I don't want to it's not worth the gamble
So i'm like it's not that good. So even if I put the ring on him, it's not like it's gonna really help
So I was like, well, maybe i'll sell the ring and then i'll put some of that in to get another one
There's uh, definitely a lot of wizards the right builds can do pretty good
I got one that's got at least 17 wins
Which is pretty crazy, um
But the rest of them are kind of like nothing
Depending on the wizard the element types the ring the ring
It all fluctuates big time
And some of the rings, I mean they go from average
8 9 000 was uh, which is like, you know, three four hundred dollar three four hundred kta easy
Yeah, I mean I know somebody meant to the I think somebody meant today. Uh
What was it? It was the tokugawa character and they listed it for like, uh 10 k 10 000 kta or whatever. I was like
But uh, yeah, right but yeah like what I did is I meant I listed uh
I listed like my komodo's I think
I think I have them listed for a lot
uh, but with the wizards like i've just not sold any now I
I will say that back in the beginning I had I did have a lot of kmc mining club nfts. I did sell some
We back when christina was having some health issues and stuff. I was having to
Pinch pennies. So I was like, you know trying to
sell everything off that I had at the time
But you know still dealing with all that but anyway, uh
It it I saw I like I gave one away which uh, you got you got one of those. Uh,
Kevin for uh, yeah, I won one of those yeah, you won one of those for the for the
uh kmc easter egg and the uh
And then I think the rest of them like I had won some we in some of their giveaways
They were doing for like, you know post a picture of you know, doing the mask and wherever such such place
And um, I was really wanting to keep them for the long term, but I I had to sell them off
But uh, you know nfts were kind of I don't know
It's a weird environment. Uh, have you ever seen that south park where um
Um, uh, what's is it? Is it is it kenny? He's trying to sell nfts
That is exactly the way I feel sometimes that i'm trying to explain it to somebody else
Yeah, i'm like i'm like hank, you know, he catches people when they're selling stuff cheap, but uh,
I did the same thing with kmc like
people didn't realize that the robot farm had the extra year warranty and they were posting them for sale cheaper than
what they should have been
And I was picking those up like I was just grabbing the ones with the extra year warranty for the cheaper price
Now everybody's caught on and they don't do that
And now now to just everybody who's still here because I know you guys are probably ready to hang up and go on about your day
Uh before y'all go if if you want to I obviously I don't have it memorized
but if you look up if you know my wallet address for uh
So, um, if you've interacted with that wallet the past
Uh i'm holding in that wallet a bunch of samurai
So if you are looking for any particular characters
just go sifting through that one and see what characters you need and uh,
I can I can trade with you or or send them over to you
Uh, if you have any excess ones you don't need and if you're looking for any particular ones
Just just look up that wallet address and take a look. I I think I have like 30
In there right now and i'm probably going to mince some more into that wallet because i'm gonna do like a
I'm gonna do kind of like a
You know, like here's this wallet address, you know, here's your prize
Go look in this wallet and see which one you see if there's one you need and do something like that
What you doing which go ahead Kevin you're gonna have to send me an invite to that server
Send you an invite to that server. Yeah, um
Yeah, I think I think there should be an ad on our website
If you if you go to the bottom i'm driving right now or i'd send it to you
But if you click on the discord logo, it should still be a good invite for you
Hey, how you guys doing? Good buddy. I knew we only have a few more minutes. I know everybody's
I was just you guys were talking about youth earlier and how the gas fees suck and they're awful
It's not even worth transacting. Oh, I thought you were like gonna get on here to defend them
Like I thought you were gonna say you love eat it or something. Not a chance
He's running as fast as the gas is going
Dude that dude can speedwalk let me tell you
I don't want you guys to have to suffer through 10 minute long walk videos. So dude, I I lost I lost 10 pounds
Yeah, I mean forget to forget the ring of speed
We need to make like a we need to make like a jimmy dawg wizard
I'll tell you I had an idea. I had an idea speaking of and this is something you might find interesting
My wife found this app where it's supposed to be like Lord of the Rings, right? So you're walking to Mordor
and uh every every so many days like you get uh
You get you know a reward or they tell you where you're at on your walk to mount doom
But I was like man if you know
You know sweat coin where if you exercise they give you one of their tokens, whatever
We should do something like that
On kadada, but make it something, you know, make it kind of fun
But we have to wait so we we have to wait till we have throw away money to do that
Well, we could do it like pokemon, couldn't we? Like I don't know this spot. Yeah
It tracks you and then if you're trying to get somewhere and you've got to walk to it
I guess you earn comes as you walk
Walk all the databases are integrated. So it'd be cool to do like a fitness nft collection
It's on my mind. That's been one of those things. I'm like, how would you do that?
So well, like rewards like you get an nft like like like uh
I mean kind of like kind of I mean i'm trying to think of a way to describe it
Uh similar to how aa does their chips, you know, like the one-week jib
Like however many miles you've walked you get an nft and that's your like I mean it has no real world purpose other than you know
I mean if you collect enough of those
The chips or the nfts you could trade them in like partner with other projects and so many
So but I mean I just keep thinking about how primed kadana is for
When people are are so sick of eth like they said they when they did their transition
The transition never was going to approve gas fees. It was just a power grab from the miners like
They weren't intending to do what they said they were going to do and I think that when people are fully tired of it
A lot of those people are gonna I mean kadana is one of the only ones that will offer a real world use case
so with the gas fees that won't kill you like imagine imagine on eth if
like real estate was tied to those nfts or
How much your transaction is going to cost on a two hundred fifty thousand dollar house like I couldn't even fathom it
Like it's it's going to be awful. Yeah, so
Well, not only that like uh, like I was when I was trying to claim the other day is uh zen tokens, you know
From that other from that other ponzi scheme
So, uh, you know, so you you mint it so so technically you log in with your wallet you sign the contract
It's like, you know 40 at that time. It's like 40 cents or whatever
And then you come back and you know a year later to claim your tokens and it ain't much like it's only very
You know, it's so many millions of tokens, but it's like, you know, twelve dollars
And then the gas fees like 1800 bucks and i'm like
Oh, well, why do I even bother?
I have a few zenoes. I like mining projects. I'm a
Like that stuff. So I have a few zenoes
But in their early session like it doesn't make any sense to do the claims because you're claiming all your your rewards are
All going away and gas like it doesn't make you think I have a couple of them also
It's like so my basically my bitcoin has it just sit on their site until it generates enough to be worth transferring
Yeah, because it's not I mean, I guess it's good for taxes like for me when I put my wallet in there and calculated by taxes like
Uh by capital gains, it's like negative like whatever so i'm like, okay
Well, you know that'll save me some money down the way
But you know, I I just want to jump on and say hello and all the good stuff. So
No, that's good. Did you cook anything tonight?
Tonight I did not I was easy, but I got a new smoker put together. So this weekend it's on
So awesome. I want to see pictures pork butts and brisket tacos for everybody
I don't want to be I don't want to be the bad person, you know, because I know everybody
I too need to stay on a diet and exercise but telling you smoked queso do it
Hey, i'm a carnivore queso. I can I can fit that in so it's all good
I'll tell you smoked queso. It's amazing. Try it animal product. I'm in so
Well, I guess we'll go ahead and wrap it up guys. I really appreciate you guys showing kd8 thursday and for those of y'all got in
Friends so getting above that a little bit early we stayed on probably
Uh, I see kyle showed up a while ago. I appreciate all you guys being here
appreciate all you guys getting up on stage and hanging out and talking with us and
Yeah, we went over a lot of different projects and things that were happening in cadena right now. So
We're just gonna keep plugging away through this, you know bear as we get back into the bull and then you know
We'll be off to the races. So
Anyway, I appreciate you guys showing up and maybe we'll see you guys next thursday night when we do it
We'll talk to you later. Y'all have a good night guys
Bye. All right. Have a good one