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Kori Looks Good, Send it - with BONK Fun
Recorded: Aug. 28, 2025 Duration: 1:01:21Space Recording
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Thank you. I love all the Quarry Palm PFPs.
It's probably my favorite thing when you get a reply
with 15 PFPs and they're all Quarry Palms.
The music's not working yet, but give us two minutes.
I got to get things set up and then we'll get going.
But yeah, I think the Quarry PFP is probably the best PFP.
You could probably derivative it if you wanted to.
I see the Saudi Cori.
I see the Cori with hat.
All right, one sec. Thank you. All right, awesome.
Let's get started.
So my name is Harrow.
I am a 16-year-old.
I live in Hawaii.
I've been in the space for a really long time. So since I was like eight years old, nine years old. So I've been in here since 2016. I don't know how I ended up speaking on spaces, but here we are. And this is the third one we're doing officially with Bonk.
So every single week, we do spaces twice a week.
And I think we're going to try to ramp that up to three times a week
since we have about 30 different Bonk PVE projects
we're looking to speak with.
So I got Bonk intern here with me, myself.
Bonk intern's good at emoting every single time.
He might chime in, tell a joke here or there.
And then I have Ren joining us.
Ren, let me get you up to speak, though.
One sec.
So Ren is with Corey.
Oh, it says he cannot be invited.
What?
Oh, there you are.
One sec.
It's because you already requested.
Perfect.
So I'm really excited about this one.
So we've done Nyla.
We did Hasako.
And I have actually never spoke with Ren before,
and I don't really have a lot of background other than I bought a bag of Corey and
I've been watching it and I go up and down, up and down, and I just know where it's going long term.
But I don't think there's any other project on Bonk, maybe even project overall or MemeCoin
overall that has as much mindshare potential as Corey. Like the fact that it's getting involved
with billion dollar brands and has the only video I think out there with over a billion views is pretty crazy.
So this whole space is going to be about Corey and Ren's story background.
Maybe you don't know Ren, maybe you never even knew Ren created Corey.
And I actually have no idea if Ren created Corey, but we'll find that out.
So, hey, Ren, I'll turn it over to you.
Let's start off with maybe just a high-level intro on who you are
and what you like about the space and how you're involved with Corey.
Yeah, thanks, Harold.
Thanks for having the space, by the way.
I'm co-host Blanc here.
Appreciate you guys.
You guys are some stars, man, making things happen in the space.
I can't believe you're only 16, bro.
Like, honestly, I had no idea. You're so young, like, comparative to everybody else in the space i can't believe you're only 16 bro like honestly i had no idea you're so young like comparative to everybody else in the space i don't think there's
anybody your age doing this um so big props to you man it really for someone to be 16 and not
just playing video games and entertaining themselves out here actually doing something
i like that's pretty amazing, bro, for real.
This is a video game, though, isn't it?
I mean, yeah, it's off our perspective, yeah, for sure.
But, like, you know, you could be definitely triggering dopamine
in all types of different ways that normal 16-year-olds do.
You're definitely uh you know
it's definitely impressive bro impressive i was playing call of duty and when i was 16 so
pretty awesome uh but as far as my background goes man i'm a little older myself i'm 35.
uh been in the space since i was 30. um got in 2021 during the bull run of 2021. Got in Shiba Inu relatively early, which was 250
million market cap, if you guys can believe it. Changed my life. I jumped in with a couple
thousand dollars, held it, and it hit $65 billion market cap. Ever since then, I've realized the potential in the space and community.
I've seen like what a major community and coin can do.
And it's just like I've been – like before I did crypto, bro, I was doing sales and marketing.
That was my biggest thing, sales and marketing.
And before that, I did a lot of drugs and then fucking went through life, bro.
Just went through life, mind-eye-opening stuff and took control of my life.
I swear, in this life, you have two lives.
The second one, you get the second one when you realize you only have one.
A lot of people, they go through life very numbingly.
They go through life kind of just NPC mode.
But when you realize you can take control of your life,
you can start making things happen, and you can just do stuff,
that's when the real fun begins.
So I went on to help make million-dollar companies,
million-dollar businesses with a marketing company in Colorado.
You know, that was that was major for me. But it's a lot of stress.
You always deal with a lot of working people. And I don't like dealing with greed, bro.
It's a lot of greed. And you never escape it it almost every space you get into you never escape it uh but that was that was the one thing i i had to deal with
is uh it's just a lot of greed a lot of a lot of people i ended up like just dropping that
immediately when i realized crypto i don't have to deal with people but you do no matter where
you go i guess you always have to deal with people so it's
a little easier though with crypto because you all kind of get behind one goal you get behind one
central mission and you understand like you everybody's got to put some skin in the game
you get to know each other you get to get on a personal basis.
And you're all equals.
That's what I loved about crypto.
And it's just that financial pool where we all put our money in the pot.
When I'll say we're in this together.
There was something about that.
It brought me in and just said, man, this is something special.
You know, as comparative to where the marketing companies and the businesses I helped build up, it was like it was always what you could do for them.
It's always like, oh, man, it's like it felt like it's like a slave, almost like a slavery type of situation that it always felt like I was in it's just uh but well i did learn a lot
of things though regardless again life you always you always progress you grow you take something
you learn something you move on with that knowledge so that was one thing in building and growing for me is like, I learned like how kind of the human psychosis
works, like how we think. And that breaks down in marketing and sales so much. It's like everything
in life is a sale. Everything. You know, it's like, even when you're dating, you know, you're, you're trying to sell
yourself. Even when you're going for that job application, you're trying to sell yourself,
trying to make yourself look good. That's why, I mean, when we go and work out, go to the gym,
like we're selling ourselves to ourselves, even to ourselves, we're trying to sell ourselves that
we're worth something. And we're not a piece of shit that we wake up and we go we go to the gym we're like damn i gotta i gotta look good i gotta
stay young i stay healthy it's for us so we feel good about ourselves i mean when uh when meme coins
it's the same thing we jump into a meme coin and And what's immediately the first thing everybody says?
Like, hold it.
Go shill.
Go shill it.
Yeah, like, oh, okay.
And we say shill, but really it's the same thing as selling.
We're selling it to people.
But it gets confusing because people hear buy, sell.
Like, oh, you're selling?
What do you mean?
No, no, I'm selling it.
I'm shilling it.
So it's just the only
term i've ever heard in crypto i won't hear the word shilling crypto but i get it yeah i mean
if you're not gonna pump your bags then who else is gonna pump them right so you gotta talk about
and it actually helps you out if you have a cute little dog with a soddy what's that thing called
the red and the checkered thing on the head what red and... The checkered thing on the head.
What's that called?
The checkered thing on the head?
No, the Saudi prince.
They have the headdress with the...
The rancher.
I don't know.
I just see this Corey Palm with it
on the top of the list.
That's what I was talking about.
Oh, yeah.
That's a good point, though. That's a good point, though.
That's a good point.
The Pomeranian being so easy.
I was talking about marketing sales earlier
and how we take our skill set with us
everywhere we go. It's like a tool belt.
You keep that skill set with you.
I think when it comes to marketing sales,
that's a great skill set for anybody in crypto who takes this serious and wants to go shill your bags.
Public speaking is one of them.
But also how to communicate and being able to sell something, be able to market, get behind what people want.
You guys are all here because you want to get behind something with the community.
Everybody wants to make money.
We all want to make money, right?
That's a result.
We all have to do the things.
I thought we were in it for the tech.
Well, the tech, right?
But we want the result of we want to make money.
If you were here, that's the ultimate goal. That's the ultimate result that we want the result of we want to make money. Like if you were here – that's the ultimate goal.
That's the ultimate result that we want.
But we want to do it ethically.
Like the people who are real builders in this space want ethically make money with – and we all want to win together.
We all want to do that.
And there's other ways to do it.
There's other ways to do it.
Obviously, we could run pump and dumps we could hype shit up and you know bundle and we've seen that plenty of times
we've seen the extractive methods that's the cool thing yeah is when people um like clearly
that's like the hard thing is like you could run a new coin every single week right i just think
that's so mentally draining and you see a lot of people do it right they have a new coin running
every week or they catch the 100x on stream every day or every time they stream but what i really
like and what kind of piqued my interest is uh and there's some on pump too like there's some crazy
um cult communities but on bonk there's quite a bit of them that are actually heavily building even when the price of bonk and everything's kind of shit right now
um i think it's pre pre second inning so i think rewarding builders and seeing people actually build
um like cory specifically um clearly you guys are are grinding uh behind the scenes with all these
like photo shoots and part first off i guess ren is that your dog or who the fuck's dog is that
okay so there so the owner of cory he's in our telegram private chats uh but he's a russian
he's russian he he can type english pretty well with us. We translate back and forth. But no, it's not my dog specifically.
But I mean, I'm working my way into why I'm in Corey for sure, like in this conversation.
I'm just working.
It's like step by step here.
No, you're good.
But I've been in Corey since about three, four million market cap. A few months ago, I jumped in.
I pretty much top blasted as soon as I figured out what it was.
Now, like I said, in marketing and sales, one of the skill sets I've had is looking at how to break down what's successful already.
Like we look at what success is.
What success is, you don't have to reinvent the wheel.
You don't have to reinvent the wheel.
That's the best part about being able to reverse engineer things.
We can look at the top meme coins in the space right now.
And you know what they are.
They're what? Dog coins, right?
Dogecoin, Shiba Inu. i like a couple cat coins too though but yeah you're right sure sure a couple cat coins too but you know when you're aiming for
the top of the top you're looking for the best of the best right now it's dogecoin and shiba inu
is the top two and then yeah it goes to some other ones and it but like but focusing is the top two, and then, yeah, it goes to some other ones. But focusing on the top two right now that have maintained their place for the past since I've been here, since I've been in the space.
Shiba Inu ran up from nothing to where it's at now.
It's still top dog.
And how did it do that?
And I break it down into three parts. I broke down meme coins into three things. And you know, that around what a good meme coin is, like how it can form.
People think community.
People think like, oh, it's catalyst.
Well, it's a multitude of things.
It's a few things really.
Few mean, I'd say, foundation factors.
Foundational key ingredients that you need in meme coins.
You need sentiment.
You need sentiment. You need catalysts.
And you need community.
These three factors, these three key elements are a necessity.
If you want to have a meme coin that can truly bring on mass adoption, that can go to the top, that has potential to run to the top of the top.
Now, what do I mean by that? What do I mean by that? Sentiment, right?
When you said, when you look at Corey, you look at like a Pomeranian, it makes you feel type of way.
You get a feeling, you get a vibe from it. It makes you feel type of way.
Same thing if you were to look at penis coin, right? You probably get off-putting.
Okay, great.
Off-putting.
You didn't see Lexapro's thesis on it though?
Oh yeah, but that's a thesis and people get confused with thesis and sentiment,
but I'm going to keep it real.
Like it doesn't matter.
Like obviously thesis doesn't matter because sentiment is more important.
We see that.
That's why celebrity meta failed.
That's why celebrity meta failed because sentiment is mixed.
It's not a congruative feeling of good.
It's mixed feelings because celebrities are people, and people make a lot of mistakes
in their life.
And so when you have a coin based around a person, an imperfect person, then it's not
going to be.
I'm just waiting.
I'm waiting for Melania to pump back up from the gulag.
That's on my watch list.
I wouldn't bet on it.
Even Trump, he's a celebrity coin.
Yeah.
Celebrity coin.
And it's just like millennia's celebrity coin.
Especially, you know, what happened when Elon Musk says,
oh, hey, you know, by the way,
you know why Trump won't release the Epstein files?
Because he's on it.
What happened to Trump coin?
Boom.
Don't.
Heavy.
Tanked.
And it's just like these – that's sentiment, bro.
That's sentiment.
It's like it doesn't matter how many people see you, which in marketing it does.
Like marketing from my experience of marketing and sales, numbers, more eyes equal more buys.
That's the same.
And that's true.
There's truth to that.
There's truth to like as many people that see you, you get exposure.
But sentiment is what's going to increase your percentage or decrease it in the amount of people that are actually going to buy into it.
That's why you want a good sentiment behind a coin.
That's why sentiment is important. And all that means is when they see your coin, when they see your name, when they see
your mascot, all these things are going to be aligned with positivity, with a good feeling.
And that's why Corey is a perfect specimen for that. In this example, a Pomeranian, one of the world's most adored dog.
One of the world's most, it's a small, little, like non-threatening, cute dog.
And a Russian Pomeranian to boot. Not even your standard American Pomeranian, right?
Yeah, you know, I don't know the difference between American Pomeranians and Russian Pomeranians.
There probably isn't. I'm just bullshitting you.
I'm just trying to save retarded stuff because I haven't gotten a lot of my retarded takes in yet.
So that was one.
Fair enough, man.
I mean, hey, I'm wearing the retardio here.
I get it, though.
You know, it's crazy, bro.
It's funny that people don't even know what sentiment it is and don't even know these things.
But I'm glad we have this space.
We can talk a little bit about it with new exposure, new audience.
This is why we have such a cult-like following, though, in Corey's because I host community spaces.
Chad hosts community spaces all the time.
We tell everybody.
We talk about this all the time.
So they get it.
They get the mission.
That's why we have such a strong community.
We reinforce this and everybody starts to understand this and educate.
But moving on, we talked about sentiment.
That was a major part.
But also one thing people miss is the catalysts.
People think exchanges are catalysts.
Those aren't really catalysts. Exchanges are great. They're great addition. They're great bullish news. But you need more. You need something that's going to keep going.
We got nothing going for it.
Look at Shiba Inu.
Like I said, with breaking down reverse engineering, good meme coins, you look at Shiba Inu.
It had the sentiment of the Shiba dog.
But it also had that catalyst of Shibarium ecosystem.
You were here since you've been here since you said you're eight years old.
So you remember Shiba Inu.
I'm full of shit, by the way.
I'm in my 30s, but, you know, I remember it.
I believe you, though.
I believe you.
You let me talk you up at 16.
I had someone just message me, what the fuck, this guy's 16.
I was 16, 6, 6, 6, 0.
Yeah, so I back on that whole Shiba thing for a minute or two in the space,
running up, that's the crazy thing about meme coins and kind of going back to what you're saying about crypto in general
like we are at a stage where i'm in many group chats where people are pvp-ing each other for
200 000 market cap coins so they're pvp each other post bond for 60 000000 market cap. Like what the fuck did we come down to
where before we were printing with Shiba
up to 60 billion from 2000
and now we're trying to PVP each other
for a 200,000 market cap coin.
Like I think people don't realize
how nutty things are going to get and will get.
And like people think,
oh, Corey's 11 million right now
or 12 million, whatever it's at, right?
Or before it was 30 million plus.
They think they're late, but it's like, dude, it doesn't matter when you buy, just top blast it.
And if they have a strong community, which you clearly do, strong presence, etc.
I mean, think billions, not 200,000 market cap shitters topping there.
Yeah, I mean, it's a good point.
You know, people, you hit a lot of things actually in that statement.
You know, there's, the reason why we haven't hit the 65 billion, we haven't seen that huge run yet, is because everybody's making coins. Everybody's making memes. And it's a,
let's make a 10x, let's make a 100x sell and move on to the next thing. Instead of, hey,
this has massive potential. Let's see how far we can take it. It's two mentalities that have been just one is obviously overtaking the other. We've had launch pads come out and reward people for launching coins instead of reward people for sticking with something and being consistent.
like airdrops and stuff it would be great as a a bag holder for buying many of andrew tate's
coins on stream and various others that just are dust to zero it's like if that could flip where
it's like you're rewarded for all the dust bags you have instead of creating coins that'd be
awesome yeah i mean it's like that's that's why you know i like Bonk and what it's trying to do with the buyback and burn the tokens too.
I think Bonk has been one of the only, one of the very few actual platforms, names that I know that have been trying to build, truly build and give back to the ecosystem.
build and give back to the to the ecosystems and really been loyal to solana this whole time and
that's why when i saw bonk had a launch pad i migrated to it immediately and i was just lucky
to find corey on it and when i did um and it was saw other tick tock memes too but like when you
have something like corey it and it's the best it. There's no other animal in the world with a
billion views on it. And I can, I literally just talked to Mr. Beast, like, okay, so I'm kind of
skipping ahead here. But I literally just was on the stream with Mr. Beast and Aiden Ross and
XQC. And I could say, yeah, you know, Corey's got a billion views on one video. And you know,
to put that in perspective, not even Mr. Beast has that.
And Mr. Beast gets defensive on stream.
He's like, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa.
But I got billions on YouTube.
And even Aiden Rock's like looking at him like, hey, well, he's talking about TikTok.
That doesn't count.
You know, he brings his producer on.
He's trying to, like, prove us that he's got, you know, you got something.
You got the biggest.
You got the best. It's like when you got that you stick with it because if that's not gonna make it then we're
all truly screwed then we're all true you know that's the way i see it that's the way that's my
processing that's the way i'm thinking you know with cory and yeah yeah i think like right now
it's just if you look at like let's talk about like bonk
overall like bonk has because i kind of hear this a lot i hear people like oh why is price down on
this or that you know and i think people expect number to go up forever and it doesn't um bonk
had an amazing run this past few months couple months right um and they've accomplished so much in
such a short time so pullback is is a good and healthy thing and i think like i said earlier
we're about to start like the second inning where bonk goes up useless goes up and then everything
on bunk goes up and maybe not everything but all of like the, heavy TV communities that are actively building, Corey, obviously included in that list.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, 100%.
It's like we all talk about numbers going up, and that's the main goal, right?
I mean, that's the main thing that…
I mean, for the tech.
For the tech, for the tech, right.
Tech is number going up. That's really the best marketing – I mean it for the tech. For the tech. For the tech, right. Tech is number going up.
That's really the best marketing in crypto.
It's funny is that the price goes up.
And like the best marketing in Web 2 is going viral.
Just getting your videos to go viral, having a social media, like having news, constant catalysts.
Then real- world catalysts.
And that's what I really like about Corey compared to a lot of these other coins is
because a lot of these other coins are trying to do Web 2 as kind of like the final roadmap.
You know, it's like the final thing on the roadmap.
Oh, we're going to go viral among the world.
Go global.
And it's like
cory just moves too quick i think that's the thing about it it's like like everything that it's got
going for it or it's already done it's already done it like all the achievements it has
is that of already a multi-billion dollar coin like when you're partnered up with trip.com a 42 billion dollar company that would
be massive that's that's massive for everybody else but that's like another day yeah i mean those
those type of news and events like back in 2017 or even 2021 you had the the google cloud
partnerships right and that would pump a coin like you had people reading white papers and
things like that and it's crazy how it's totally shifted now. It's like, that's kind
of expected. But to see a meme coin actually achieve that's pretty, pretty amazing. So
I do have a couple questions though. So did you launch Corey? Did you CTO it? Or like
you said you bought it at 4 million? Like who launched corey i guess um i honestly have no idea but i
know that like it was two communities going on one in pump and one on bonk um that came out with corey
and like i guess this was during like the little gold rush of tick tock like people were trying to
make coins for the tick tock uh accounts there was a few other TikTok accounts and coins
that were trying to be made too at the time.
And I spotted that Corey,
the official account Corey was supporting the Bach one
and it was already like three or four mil.
I saw Naive was in at the time.
I saw some other influencers that were in at the time
and like Dior and Bon,
who have all sold by now and are gone,
moving on, rotating as usual.
But I, I saw that at the time and I just, I hopped in and I got,
I immediately in order for me to like stay in and be this committed and like
voice my, my, like be a voice for the community.
I want to know the team. I want to know the owner.
I want to know what's going on. So I got into the team
chats. Got into the chats
with everybody. So they're very open,
very communicative.
Owner.
I'm not going to say it has
been easy. There's been
hard times in the beginning.
You had to learn Russian too, right?
No. No.
Not at all. No, you could no. Slightly? Not at all.
No, he could translate English and stuff.
That was fine.
But it's just like every – like if anybody tells you it's all just smooth sound without any kind of rough patches or anything, like they're either lying or that's just a red flag.
Like there's always got to be some sort of rough patches, always got to be some sort of like headbutt a little bit.
And we have that in the
beginning you know I think that's that I think that was like why we succeeded though it's because
we went through so many hard times together and because those hard times are behind us and at
very lower points in our price action you know now that we're sitting where we're at now, it's like we can handle these times a lot better.
And one of the best things I think we did as well,
one of the big brain moves is we did a lockup.
We gave the owner his own private wallet
that he can trade and swing trade as he wishes.
But also, he also like a public wallet he's
not supposed to touch and it's a stream flow he is a stream flow over a long period of time so it
keeps him invested keeps him interested but regardless he's already expressed his opinions
how he wants the project to do well he wants his dog to be the number one meme coin in the space
which is it's already the number one animal in the world.
We're all very passionate.
Sleek is the team lead who's been here since day one.
And yeah, I mean, he's a solid guy, solid dude.
He's been sent back since I was in the space in 2021.
I guess that gave me more confidence to having connections with him.
Yeah, no, I see.
I mean, I just see like photo shoots with Corey and stuff.
So I'm curious, like, does the owner arrange that?
Because going into this, here's what I thought.
I was like, oh, Wren created Corey.
It's his dog.
He probably lives in LA somewhere and has lots of connections.
It sounds like you do have quite a bit of connections, though, with marketing and sales. Like your background, do have quite a bit of connections though with marketing
and sales. Like your background probably have quite a bit of big mainstream influencers
or content creators and stuff like that. But I think it sounds like the team behind Corey
is really well-rounded enough to have all these connections. And obviously I think it's
not slowing down. Like I like there was paris hilton
there was the trip and there were several others and i think the mind share of it's just going to
continue to grow and i think everything on bonk right now is is kind of just down overall but i
think if people can get beyond the short-term version vision of like oh price is down that sucks
and just kind of see where something's going,
especially something like Corey.
That's where you kind of have the potential
to pull a Shiba Inu, right?
Yeah, I think that's the thing people have to start looking at
is achieving bigger goals beyond price action,
beyond getting listings.
I mean, listings are great, and they're going to come,
and I know they're coming,
but there's the thing is like,
that's gonna be cool for a moment.
But I think the coolest thing that we can do together
is get like collaborations with Victoria's Secret,
with Rihanna and their Fenty brand.
They reached out to us, Fenty brand, Victoria's Secret.
They reached out to us. Fenty brand, Victoria's Secret, they reached out to us through DMs.
MrBeast talking to us
and having his producer
on Discord.
It's surreal
to have all these connections,
to have all these people reaching out to you to
potentially collab
with a
community dog. It's like not even his dog
anymore it's our it's our dog you know that's that's the cool feeling because we have something
like hey like this guy wants to you know it's like oh mr beast wants to do a uh beast games 2
ad you know with cory rolling up on a skateboard you know looking at the ipad watching beast games
2 on prime you know it's gonna be that's like, wow, that's major.
He's going to do that.
He'll film it.
And it's so easy to film.
It's not anything he has to edit, like do any crazy editing,
just quick film.
Well, that's kind of the cool thing.
I think you probably can't say it,
but it sounds like you probably have a lot of things behind the scenes
that are going to be coming out and continue to go out.
Like if you look at the TikTok of Coreyy you can just see endless content being pushed and then you're going
to start to see more other big accounts or w2 accounts start posting it um like actual brands
and businesses like victoria's secret is pretty epic so that's the kind of cool stuff that i
remember so being in the space in 2016 and then in it was like, if you could get a real world actual company acknowledging you, that was big, right?
So I think people don't realize how good we have it with the moment we're in right now with crypto overall.
And then big brand awareness tokens like Corey has the potential to be, right?
And I'm kind of the opinion that
I don't really care where price goes obviously it feels better when number go up but when it
goes down to I'm just like well I guess I just round tripped all that but I I kind of know where
it's going so with Corey I think I round tripped like 300k and I just it's like yeah whatever you
know but the only reaction to that is I guess I could have sold up there
and then bought back down.
But if I had did that,
it probably would have continued running up.
So sorry for not settling
because that would have happened probably.
Oh, yeah.
So you got half a percent.
Got it.
Yeah.
That's just what happens every single time.
Nah, I'm there with you, man.
I'm like, I'm one of the top holders, if not the top holder right now. So, I mean there with you, man. I'm like, I'm, I'm one of the top holders,
if not the top holder right now.
I mean,
I get the pains,
I get the feeling.
and it's,
it's tough because it's like when you believe in something and you got
people,
you know,
that,
that see you,
it's,
it's like,
for me,
I'm not going to rotate.
I don't think I'm going to rotate ever out of Corey.
I'm not going to tell you,
I'm not going to sell it.
I would totally sell Corey, but only to buy back Corey on the dips.
Like, that's me.
I can't see myself rotating to any other coin.
I think Corey is, like, literally my last play, bro, to be real.
Like, my last serious coin play.
Yeah, that's epic.
And that's kind of where I'm at, too.
And I'm seeing other,
I don't know how people rotate to a different coin every single week, right?
Like I like a lot of, I probably like five to 10 different ones that I'm probably overly exposed to,
but it's just, I plan on holding them and chilling, right? And to your point, it's like,
yeah, you might sell here and there, but it's like, you're selling to add more. it's like kind of the bitcoin story it's like stacking sats instead of you know what i mean
you got to trade some of it and take some wins and then obviously you got to buy your pokemon
cards and stuff with some profits but that's about it yeah i mean i feel i'm in asia right
now so everything's pretty cheap for me i don't have to worry about pulling out too much money
thank god um but yeah no it's it there's definitely, everybody's got their personal
lives for sure. You can't, you can't sell shame everybody, but, um, it's, uh, it's, it's just this
battle that we, that we face every day, you know, the short term come in the tourists and then the
whole ecosystem itself. And then you got, there's's always so many so many variables to everything
it's it's uh interesting but yeah when it comes down to it you know you could rotate but every
coin has its own dynamic that you're getting into and you have no idea it's like you have no idea
what you're getting into he's like you hear some guy talking about it like how many influencers
have so much exposure that are just shilling absolute dog shit like every day or
every couple days a new coin you know and it's just i just couldn't do that and that's that's
the hardest part is they're probably doing really well doing that and it's it's fun i mean don't get
me wrong i i will have some funds aside to trade on a lot of those, but most of them, if I get linked to CA in a group chat, I buy it and then I'm the exit liquidity.
But sometimes it is really fun because it just goes up really high.
And even those celeb coins, it's like you kind of know when you should or shouldn't buy them.
But when you know if you do buy them, you're trying to get in and get out as fast as you can, right?
if you do buy them you're trying to get in and get out as fast as you can right um that's why
i feel comfier in a lot of these like pve type communities especially with ones on vong so
ori specifically obviously send it um since i'm a big part of that nila and hasako and joe those
are kind of my big bonk specific place yeah and i went to bonk specifically because i mean i have a pretty huge
bag of bonk that's like what most of my spot position is in is solo and bonk so i think
everyone on bonk will be rewarded and cory's for sure one of those communities that you can
see show up day in and day out they're switching their pfp's to this cute little dog
and there's a handful of others that will probably be in the same boat as as cory on bonk that's uh you know that's
i mean that's that's interesting way you put it you know like it is fun it is fun to sometimes
like throw a little bit of money in other things but i i think it's all about size right like how
much size you're using it's like you you said, sometimes you're exit liquidity.
When you rotate and you put your money in things,
if you want to put yourself
in something comfy like Corey,
that's when you have size.
I don't know how people define size for themselves.
I would say at least
five grand. If you have
at least five grand serious money you're throwing
in, that's a Corey-type play.
If you have a few hundred dollars, a couple hundred dollars, that's a cory type play if you have a few hundred dollars
a couple hundred dollars that's a gamble type that's a penis coin type play right there that's
a penis coin yeah but even but you know he killed that shit oh my god that was just down from there
it didn't go i don't mind him i think it's funny but i i absolutely love his post he's like if i
could go back and find that post about penis coin,
or even the, the one about the guy with the glasses,
the Roy Robert or whatever the hell, how that thing was.
It's just, the post is so funny. Cause it's like,
I just discovered this and it's like a whole four paragraph thesis on why this
is great. And it's the same thing.
Every time it goes up for an hour and then it goes to Goblin Town for the next forever, basically.
But totally agree.
Yeah.
There's high conviction plays and then there's gambles.
And rotating out of a coin like Corey isn't something that I'm personally interested in.
Yeah, 100%.
It's like, I think, once again, it goes to those three factors.
You know, sentiment, catalyst, community.
If it has none of them, red flags, stay away.
If it has community, at least look for...
Because how many times do we see botted communities?
I get in my DMs all the time.
People are willing to chill.
I'm willing to use their bot army to show whatever they want on X.
And it makes it look like there's a community there.
I think it's actually better to have X accounts with smaller followings,
especially meme coins and projects.
I think that's way, way better than when you go to a gold ticket account
with a million followers. And and like I don't know
about that you know I'd rather follow a meme coin that has a couple thousand or 10,000 that
you knows legit right and that's where you can see with Corey like literally day in day out you
just see tons of people posting and they're posting because they want to right they see
the vision they and I think so so you said 5,000 to Corey play. I honestly think that even like two to 300 could
be a Corey play because if it goes to where those Shiba Inu numbers are, or even like a billion,
right? That's like the meme on meme coins is going to a billion. Two to $300 is still a
meaningful amount of money. So I would tell anyone, whatever you can do,
just obviously what you can afford to lose,
but you also can't make it
if you're not going to take some exposure
in some things, right?
But put it in and believe in it.
And sometimes those smaller size bets
end up playing out the biggest
because you're not emotionally attached
to where it's going.
Yeah, that's true.
I put what you can.
I mean, I think this could pull off some
shiba inu numbers like shiba inu hit 65 billion market cap all-time high and it's like if you
want to compare like what you got going on with cory it is obviously more so i mean a hundred
dollars per cory coin is really not a lofty dream a lofty goal for us. That's what I'm telling. Just tell everyone on this space to buy a hundred bucks and Corey coin if
they don't have it.
And under times the 10,000 people in this space,
I mean,
that's a pretty big number.
There's not 10,000 people,
but there could be.
I think it's bug.
It says there's only 138,
but I'm pretty sure there was like 8,000 something in here.
Oh yeah,
for sure.
At least listeners are going to comment at least in here oh yeah for sure though at least at least
listeners are going to comment at least 8 000 listeners for sure rotating i think they just
wanted to hear your voice you know this they wanted to hear the 16 year old prodigy and then
ren's voice yeah man i mean shoot people say i should be a radio a radio host or something
you know i might try streaming i started uh might do streaming like games and stuff
just for after this whole crypto thing honestly oh let's talk about that I guess so crypto
so I got into it just because I can show the six and I just bought it because it's the future of
everything right and I ran up like I didn't have that much money back then. So I had like probably $3,000 into it.
I ran up to $30,000 and then I ran it to like nothing,
like literally nothing in 2017.
And then beyond that did okay.
And now I have done this full time since 2021.
And mostly it's just me talking to people and lots of good connections over the
past few years.
Right.
And I know we talked about me not playing video games, but I view this as like a video game legit.
Like, I feel like there's nothing better than forming all these connections with this space.
Right.
So communities like Corey and all the other communities on Bonk and the various other communities, it's not really like nft kind of pump or hop in and wait for like a whitelist and stuff but you're actually getting tokens with
real communities that are really vibey like nft communities used to be so kind of spin off to
cory or even like nyla who i see a ton of you see like the branding and send it to like the branding
is all over these pfps and they're not nfts it's like people who
are like see the vision they want to be a part of it they want to be that dog or whatever and they
just put it on and rock it um so anyway there's a tangent so where i was going with that is where
do you see the market going in the next like by end of year are we going higher lower like do you
think this is a,
do you think the cycles are repeating or is it completely out of the realm of what we've experienced before with other cycles? Well, this cycle has been depressing,
I'll be real with you. But to put it in perspective, it's like I bookmarked it so you could see,
I wanted to post it on the space to show you guys that a lot of there's a lot of participants that are just been getting absolutely
wrecked um and so i posted it i pinned it for you guys this is a this is through dune you guys can
see showing all the participants in solana and unique wallets just going down like crazy so i mean
i don't know exactly if it's going to just be down for i doubt it goes down forever you're going to
have something like cory or some other major coin that just sticks around when everything else is
completely dusted or gets no motion and people unite behind it and just absolutely send it right i mean that's and
that's what like in like fires it just puts a flame of the possibilities of the space you know
when you see that that's that's what happened i swear shiba inu was the flame for 2021 and it sparked it all through 2021 to uh towards kind of middle of early q1 of 2022 before
i started to notice how things kind of just died off the best part about those kind of tokens is
you buy it or no i didn't get into it i was the one on the sidelines the whole time thinking like
how the is this going higher it's not going higher and then it just continues to go higher and higher
and then you get more and more upset that you're not exposed to it
so yeah i do think we're destined for those type of plays it's definitely an interesting cycle
though just because i would say it's hard to say it's depressing just because it's hilarious that
i would have never thought that it would have been depressing when bitcoin's at 112 000 and
we got e-500 you know but i do get what you're saying because it is kind of depressing
because it's very rotational.
And I'm the type of person that when I pick something,
I want to stay in that and I want to stick with the community
and build a lot of friendships within that community.
So it is kind of hard when people flip-flop bias
of which they're in, what they're not in over time.
It's been more of a trader cycle than a hold and believe cycle.
But I think we're going to go from a trader cycle to a hold and believe cycle
for this next leg, which is awesome.
Yeah, man.
I mean, that's what I'm putting my bet on as well.
But it's like that's what's necessary for us to go up as a space
is you need people to hold believe
In the down times and in the positives, you know, it goes up when it goes down. You got a hold you got to believe and
Do you get about wise price down run? Oh
Man, yeah all the time all the time and it's annoying. It's just like at this point. I just tell myself they don't believe
So get on I don't care. It's like i'm not here to try to convince everybody who's just just
tell them to buy to tell them to buy more and that will go up that's what i tell everyone
i actually i don't even i i have one place i can check dms now and it's on uh telegram so i don't
like i have my two or three group chats on x and then telegram people can find me but because a lot
of those were like
why is the price down or this and that it's like i don't know dude like look at everything on bonk
right now everything everything is down when it pumps too it's the same thing though like why is
it pumping like it's like because i because i are you surprised solana in it that's why it's
pumping idiots it's like are you surprised like i don't know like when this thing hits 100 mil when it
hits 500 mil one bill like i like what can we tell them other than what we've already told them
when it was at these levels that it is now it's like nothing you can't say anything else it's just
it is what it is i mean just tell them to post more pictures of the dog and then the number will
say we're paying for some raid bots. Don't worry, guys.
Yeah, for real.
Insane, man.
I just, it's like you're going to get a lot of new people that come to this space that have never touched crypto in their life.
And you just want to pray and hope that they buy something that's going to increase in
value for them.
And they're going to be able to have enough time to go and tell
their friends and family about it and be like, look, I just put $200 in here. It's already a
thousand dollars in a week. Guys, you got to get in this. You just pray and hope that when they go
and tell their friends and family, they buy in and they're going to have enough time to go tell
their friends and family. The unfortunate part about that is as of i feel like this year um it's great so it's it's it's double-edged sword because
it's more accessible now than ever you got things like moonshot for example or the pump app things
like that and people can just gamble on any coin instantly with apple pay, et cetera. And man, I've had a lot of,
I've had a lot of neighbors who I told to buy like,
so I told people to buy synapse.
If you know synapse, it's, it was a bridge token.
I saw a video from DCF God and I was like, man,
they're making an L1.
They're going to go to like multi-billion dollar valuation.
DCF is a pretty big brain.
And it's like the 10 or 12 newbies to crypto I got into it,
they laugh because it's like they're down 98% or something.
So I think with meme coins,
that's just hyper-accelerated with things like Moonshot, etc.
Where it's like people buy something
and it goes off the face of a cliff.
They're not coming back.
But if they get that one win,
they're going to double down on it.
It's really addicting.
Yeah, exactly.
And that's what happened with me.
I mean, Shiba Inu, if I didn't win big on Shiba Inu like I did,
I can't tell you where the direction I would be in my life.
I don't want to tell you if I'm being crypto.
You know, I bought into Shiba Inu, I bought into Doge.
I hedged my bets half-half.
I had like five grand, put like $2,000, $2,500 in both, just about. And one turned into $140,000.
The other did $7,500.
And I just, if I didn't do that on Shiba Inu, if I didn't make that money,
God knows if I would have dug as deep as I did and gotten in crypto like how I did.
And like literally in that first year became a
developer started i launched my own coin on bnb um took that to 17 mil like it was it was life
changing for me man life changing but i learned a lot about the space and that's why i'm like i
just know for a fact like eth bnb any evm like ethereum virtual machine is already subpar compared to solana
just just for the fact on on evms i've discovered all these contracts that they can make uh on the
solidity the solidity contracts i don't know if you guys are familiar with proxy contracts and
what they are but a proxy contract is pretty much where everything can check out fine on scanners.
Everything looks clean.
Everything looks clear.
But the contract can be controlled by a separate, unique controller, a controller contract, which can halt that current contract, which could honeypot it at any time.
which can halt that current contract, which could honeypot it at any time.
Just for that one simple fact, just for that one issue, just for that,
I completely reject EVMs, and it's just a security flaw that can't be fixed.
No, I'm not big-brained enough to to know i just know that there's way too many
fucking chains there's so many later too and it's i like some of them but man i i think that's kind
of the cool thing about memes in general is it's kind of taking a lot away from from vc kind of
back coins and unlocks and stuff like you look at celestia and it's just like, man, I also had some people buy that.
And that thing just fell off a cliff
and they always text me every now and then.
Okay, do you think Celestia is going to go back up?
And like, I don't know, like maybe,
like everything eventually goes back up.
But in 2021, that's the difference of this cycle is
I feel like you could buy anything and it would go up.
But it's also really fun
because you could also buy a bottomed out chart like celestia or something else that looks like
it's about to die and then you get these squeezes and it just pumps 500 a day or something stupid
right so it's like that dopamine rush that you get out of that except with mean coins you get it instantaneously which is
really fun so buying the 200 000 market cap shitters in a group chat again i thought you said
this earlier it's like that's not one you want to put your full port in and chill like you want to
have some high conviction play but it's fun to mess around with some of those too yeah it's just
the liquidity so thin on those things it's just like a couple people some of those too. Yeah, it's just the liquidity is so thin on those things.
It's just like a couple people cash out big and you're back below and everybody's depressed and the community that you thought you had is not there anymore.
And I've seen that happen with a couple of quarry killers, quote unquote, recently.
Like they had coin came out, literally went from 30K market cap to a mil.
Some prominent influencers supposedly shilling it and
then not even a week not even a week had passed since it launched and it's back below 30k so went
from 30k to a mil now back below 30k again it's just that's the market we're in that's this that's
the rotationary space you guys are dealing with the That's kind of like, I think the first test that was meme coins, if they can survive like their
first 90% drawdown, because it happens, right? When numbers going up, it's early, it's launched,
and everyone's excited. Then you have some people take profits. But I think when you
finally have like that first 90% drawdown, and you start to build like real, really strong
conviction, dynamic-handedhanded holders the team keeps
on building that's that's what makes the difference because there's plenty of cto teams
for example who will run it up they'll cto it and they'll they'll stick with it for maybe three
weeks or so and then the number goes down doesn't look as good then they're like oh well we try their
best you know we're moving on but i think that's where you see the real ones kind of come out and shine
like even something that it's not a cto but like nubcat on soul just falling off a cliff for so
long being suspended multiple times and then now finally starting to come to life and lots of other
diehard communities like that that have to go through that 90 downtrend before going back up
yeah you definitely have to have some pains to really test your community and see if it's
real.
You know, if those obviously if those pains happen and your community disbands and it
it was like I said in the beginning, right, you had three factors, foundational factors
you need.
There's either no hope for catalysts, there's no real good sentiment behind it, or the community was fluffed up and was only there to make a quick buck as it was and wasn't really there for the coin.
There's either no hope for catalysts.
There's no real good sentiment behind it.
And that's unfortunate, but that's just how the space is.
In a game of winners, everybody talks about winners, then you're automatically assuming that this is a game, right?
And in a game, you will have losers losers and there's going to be a lot of
losers and very few winners i'm usually the exit liquidity invited to group so i can be the i can
be the loser and take the l for for a lot of you guys on some of these shitters so if you invited
me to a a group and showed me a 200 000 market cap shitter i'm usually the one that gets dumped
on us and i like 5% supply out there.
Ren, we have like three minutes
left. What's the last three minutes of stuff
you want to close with?
Most bullish thing you could possibly
think of in your life?
I mean
most bullish thing I could think of
in my life?
I mean, I don't know.
You're the,
you like life advice for people,
I guess.
let's hear about,
I guess we talked about kind of the market in general.
Let's talk about like just bonk specifically.
So you already talked about how bonk reward of the trenches.
They're big on soul.
Clearly they're doing a lot of stuff with,
with communities. We're're doing we have like 30
20 or 30 weeks of spaces lined up with various bunk communities and we're now gonna have to like
move it to like three a week instead of two a week but like where do you see see bunk going and what
do you think that trajectory or if you think it's falling off a cliff what do you think that means
for all like the communities on bunk well if your community is strong you don't need bonk that's that's that's the truth if you
have a real strong community and a real strong coin you don't need a launch pad to to support
you really i ultimately you you've got your coin you've got a good community within it and you'll attract regardless but if you are kind of leaning on
bonk a little bit and uh you know then i think you're in good hands comparative to every other
launchpad because that's why i went with bonk is they've saved the ecosystem with solana obviously
save but they've been there they've supported from day one loyal giving back to the community so i i really do appreciate bonk and that
name brand uh of bonk that's constantly giving back in that team there so yeah and i heard bonk
intern is gonna buy like twenty thousand dollars of cory after this he was telling me um he said
it with his emojis if you just checked his emoji morris code you could see he was doing it ah okay i mean
that's if that's if they uh they want to make two million dollars in the near future you know yeah
two but two billion in the near future no no i um but yeah thanks for hopping on ren it was nice to
meet you um i think personally i've i've had cory for a really long time and it's one of my high
conviction plays i have a few on bonk and sorry if I don't name drop you,
but it's not that I don't like you.
It's just, there's always been Nyla.
There's been Corey and Hasako.
And then recently I bought Joe.
And then obviously Sendit is my number one
because I'm heavily involved with the Sendit team to,
and that's about sending every token on Bonk, right?
It doesn't matter what you have,
just so long as it goes up. That's kind of what we all want, right?
I appreciate the art coins, man.
I actually have an iPad and I mess with Procreate and do a lot of art stuff myself.
And I've done the animations and all that.
So it's definitely more of a sentiment thing, definitely.
I could feel it with Sendit.
It's cool.
Good vibes.
Yeah, Froggy, he's listening.
I think he's responsible for like a billion plus giphy views for the Pudgy Penguins.
And he does all that art for free, too.
Like the dude's just an animal.
But anyway, appreciate your end.
Bonk Inter, appreciate you guys.
We have water on Monday.
So W-H T R R is
who we're going to talk to. And you can message cadence on if
you haven't already talked to him about getting lined up for I
call it cadence. I don't know. Is it cadence?
I would say it's like an army cadence like I'm like, like, one
like army, like two, three, four. That's a cadence.
I thought it was condensed like
i don't know i'm 16 years old i don't know any of this stuff yeah that's i see where you say that
though i see you could always play back on it that's funny you know that's what i was gonna
ask too is like if anybody's already you know do you know anybody can unsuspend accounts like my
first account was followed by people it's followed by big people, bro. So I don't know how to.
I can do that.
So my account was suspended in 2021.
I got raided by a K-pop group.
We're talking bad about,
I said something about someone in a K-pop video.
It wasn't even bad.
It's just that I didn't like them or something.
And then I had a whole K-pop group suspend my account.
But yes, I can help you get it back.
I'll give you the contact of
someone who can get it back it's a lawyer and i think it it's it cost me in 2021 probably
i'm not good at currencies but it was like 1200 pounds or something so it's based in uk
okay so yeah and then they just write a letter to and this was a tweet this was before twitter
was x so i don't know if it's changed but he just wrote a letter and then they're write a letter. And this was before Twitter was X, so I don't know if it's changed. But he just wrote a letter, and then it appealed, and good to go.
Yeah, that'd be great, because then I can throw Beeple as a contact and DMs and stuff for any of the artists.
Maybe get a big penis quarry from Beeple's art section, is what you're thinking.
Bro, it's funny you say that.
I helped with the team on Harambe, and when Beep people drop that Harambe dicks out for Harambe,
I should have said that big for us.
That's so funny.
Let's go.
All right.
Hey, thanks so much, Ren.
Nice talking to you, man.
And thanks, Bonk Intern.
Thanks, guys.
All right.
See you guys one day.
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