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Kuru Live! - New Life in the Trenches
Recorded: May 1, 2025 Duration: 1:17:39Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the current market trends, highlighting Bitcoin's stability at $94,000 and Ethereum's fluctuating price under $1,800. The conversation also delved into the rise of meme coins like House Coin, signaling a shift in retail investor interest, while concerns about the sustainability of these trends were raised.
Full Transcription
Thank you. You Oh Oh When I hit you for the world, thank you for the time to take the world. We couldn't carry it through
Spending weekends losing my mind
Trying to feel closer to you
I'm just a girl and I'm home
With the fuck we love you
So I just run the world in the last And I'm not coming over you Oh Oh, make me, make me cry.
When I hit you for the world, make me cry.
Oh, make me, make me cry. Thank you. Yo, what's up everybody?
G-Crew, G-Crew, Cozy.
Another week.
KB, we're back.
The bee sting couldn't keep you down.
They didn't stop Kuru Live from happening, but there's new life in the trenches. we're back. The bee sting couldn't keep you down. They didn't stop Kuru Live from happening,
but there's new life in the trenches. We're back. How are you feeling?
Yeah, back from the dead. I'm good. I'm good. Yeah, that bee sting was crazy. I guess it bit me
in a weird place, kind of like under my arm. So I think it hit like a lip node and just kind of like
full ported into my body, like the beef venom just full ported into my body.
Yeah, yeah, literally. And I was on overdrive, but it was like 24 hours and it was done. So
I'm alive. What? Okay, so you've got it I know last week
we weren't really deep into this but the juice cleanse postponed for now or you
are you back on it I mean like I was on day seven when the beat happened I just
you know I'm like whatever dude but I mean I lost like five pounds which is nice um and I'm definitely still drinking
smoothies so like it's been nice to like um and I haven't I've only drank coffee once since I've
been off of it um and that was just because like my friend gave it to me and I'm like okay I'm
gonna drink it because he gave me the coffee um but like I still am drinking like really nice smoothies in the morning as a breakfast compared
to like a bagel so it's definitely been you know gets you on a good track for some better health
yeah right on well the smoothies are working I mean you're just kind of keeping the market
propped up right here it kind of seems like we've maybe lost some of the juice cleanse momentum.
But, you know, Bitcoin, 94,000, ETH chilling under 1,800.
We might need to deploy some more vegetables for that.
But I don't think there's enough vegetables in the world to get ETH to a good place.
That may very well be true yeah it might be cooked in a way that
that veggies not even not even veggies can fix dude i would say legit like i have a friend that
i hang out with and she's got a baby so it's you know just you know newborn or new mom type shit
and um so she lives vicariously through my like crypto stories but I
was explaining to her like the difference between Bitcoin and Ethereum and like how and like just
explaining and like the most normie terms like how Ethereum has underperformed so terribly
and like and to a point where, do you remember the time when people
actually thought that Ethereum was going to flip Bitcoin? And they're gonna they're calling it the
flippening? Like, I'm pretty sure the Ethereum, like old school Ethereum heads invented the word
the flippening. Do you like, do you remember this? Oh, yeah, no, for sure. For sure. I mean, I remember when .1 ETH was like $450.
Like, it was insane time.
I mean, even last year, thinking back that, I mean, I was filing my taxes and I was looking
back at like a bunch of fantasy top rewards and stuff.
And I was like, damn, like ETH last year was at like $3,500, $3,800,, something like that, like chilling in the threes.
Like, I mean, like I will say it doesn't fail to shock me still, even though I acknowledge all the problems with this narrative, that it's probably overvalued all these things.
Like the fact that it's at 1800 is like pretty insane.
Like and Bitcoin is in the 90s. And like that, that's the fact. Like, and Bitcoin is in the nineties and like that.
That's the fact,
like it really is pretty,
pretty beat down.
I actually do think,
I mean,
look,
we've talked a lot about youth narratives,
especially when we had James and intern on a few weeks back here.
I feel like with,
I don't know if you saw that thread from the East team.
It might've been from Tomas where they were talking about like
recentering the L1.
I feel like the pivot has kind of begun with the narrative.
I do think, and maybe I'm just sentimental,
but I don't feel like ETH is done.
Like I do think that it's in a tough spot right now,
but that if they move away from the role of centric roadmap,
that there is still a future for the Ethel one.
And I think that Monad, like genuinely, obviously they're competing,
but like actually could offer like a real generative push
with a lot of the things that they're doing.
And I still think there's momentum with Eth
and that it could actually perform potentially quite well,
not financial advice.
Also, I'm telling you to buy Heath, so maybe don't do that. But I don't feel like it's over, over. I wouldn't be surprised if
things stabilize-ish, if we get some ETH momentum, especially if good messaging keeps coming
from the new EF leadership. But I don't know. We'll have to see how much motion they actually have.
than they actually have.
Yeah.
You know, I had this really funny thought
and something I've been reading on the timeline
that they're calling Ethereum the world computer.
Right? You've seen that?
Yeah, no.
I think that's like kind of an old time narrative.
But yeah, no, totally.
Right.
So maybe they're trying to like bring it back. But like was i was kind of thinking like all right if if ethereum is
like the you know the narrative the world computer and like so wouldn't that mean that you know all
these different evm chains and like l2s and everything like yeah they are they all need to
like coexist like with each other in order for this to maybe it's
just evm that's kind of like the world computer and there's all these types of like you know um
different like internet and like you know plugins or whatever i don't know i i had a better like
thought process i should have written it down um but it kind of made sense to me in my head
it down um but it kind of made sense to me in my head yeah i mean i um i don't want to say that all
of it is like marketing and like it's a hard this is like a thought experiment that breaks down
pretty quickly because like vitalik is so keen on like how ethereum has been created in all the
people but it's funny i was listening to a podcast. It's called The Chopping Block.
You probably heard me refer to it.
They had one of the bankless guys on over the weekend.
Actually an interesting pod.
They talked about ETH and like kind of the different narratives
and how it's moving forward and everything.
And one of the things that they were talking about
is like how there's 21 capital coming out there.
Like this pure play Bitcoin strategy,
micro strategy competitor. And one of the real
functions that strategy and now these different pop ups, there's you've you're seeing them for
Solana, too, is not just that they're acquiring Bitcoin, but like Michael Saylor, even though,
look, the guy's a retard, like he goes on podcasts, he just talks for like two hours
straight. It's kind of ridiculous. But like he has real institutional clout. Like he already was a billionaire. He's at least regarded as like a semi sophisticated guy. He had some like really interesting like bullishness on Apple like back in the day and talking about phones and how they were going to basically just like win in the long run because of their strategy and go to market and all of that.
Saylor has become the spokesperson for Bitcoin in a lot of ways.
And there's a good and a bad side to that.
But like Saylor is an alpha.
And there's like a lot of alphas that have congregated around Bitcoin.
And I don't just want to be too, I don't know.
I guess I am like too stereotypical or whatever it is. But like ETH is a beta,
not just in the sense of being a beta to Bitcoin, but like it doesn't have strong proponents.
Like even it's like when you think of Ethereum, look, not just to throw shade, but whatever.
You think of Bankless, right? It's just not inspiring. And also, like, kind of shady in some ways. Like, Bankless, I think, has made some mistakes over the years, even though I do think they occasionally put out good or interesting content. You think of, like, Sassel. You think of, like, just kind of, yeah, Betas. Like, again, I don't want to be too polemical, but that is just kind of what ETH has become. But I really appreciate the decentralization narrative
and like what ETH has built in a lot of ways.
Like it is still the rallying cry.
And yes, there are cheap and fast chains
that are coming along.
Obviously we're building on MonEd, we're bullish on it.
And I think that they have the marketing component
of this booked up in a lot of ways, right?
And look, I'm not gonna say that like Keone and like James
or whatever are like classical like alpha males.
But I do think that they have a real sophisticated and just like forward people centric way of like communicating the message of what Monad is.
Like you need that for a chain and it doesn't have to be an official spokesperson.
But Ethereum needs a mic. They don't even need a micro strategy. They just
need, like, I really think that if you put an effective communicator who had business acumen
in the, even in the driver's seat or just in like some kind of role, like maybe this is what
Etherealize will turn into. I don't know if you guys are familiar with a theory lies. They're kind of trying to become like an institutional and like a marketing arm for
Ethereum to try to get them a seat at the table.
Right.
There was the digital assets summit that Trump did a few, maybe a month or so ago.
And there was no representatives from East there.
Right.
Like that's a huge problem.
Right.
And even if you're going to be a decentralized chain, you still need people that are working
for their bags.
And so all that's to say, I don't know who that person would or could become.
Maybe it will be Tomas or one of the other Ethereum Foundation directors.
And forgive me for the long ramble there.
But I feel like it really is like a crisis of identity.
It's like a crisis of message and then if you had someone that was like clear thinking and able
to articulate it very winsomely like i actually think that eth price price action would look a
lot different because it would unlock like all of the people that love ethereum like for what it
actually is and we should appreciate it as like the godfather of smart contract platforms,
even if their execution hasn't always been great. Yeah, I don't know if you have any thoughts there,
KB, but that's kind of my Ethereum rant for the day. No, no, no. I like that I triggered that from
you. So we can definitely move on. Right on, right on. No, for sure. For sure. The yeah,
I mean, it's been a fun, it's been a fun week, kind of slow, I feel like in some ways.
But I mean, we titled The Space, This New Life in the Trenches.
I feel like Bitcoin just kind of chilling out at ninety four thousand, still showing a lot of relative strength with the market, just kind of being up and down.
Looks like today that Trump and the admin are going to be reaching out to China to try to get some
negotiations on the table. Maybe not the art of the deal as we'd like to conceive of it since
China just didn't budge at all. And now we're kind of coming, crawling back in some ways.
You don't love that, but maybe it'll create some more economic stability. It's been kind of topsy
turvy. And I think some people are perceiving that it's like a risk-off time in terms of markets,
especially with the negative GDP print that came out today.
But Bitcoin is chilling.
And there's been some motion in the Solana trenches.
It's been a lot of fun.
And so I wanted to talk through some of the narratives here.
I've got this from Tyler D. pinned here.
So these are some of the meme
names and kb i feel like we just gotta run through these maybe i don't know how familiar you are with
some of these but we can just kind of talk them through i really just want to hear like whether
you think these are good memes if you've been trenching at all we've got house coin which as
of this tweet was up 33 to 80 million it's been it's been catching some big names. So Ansem is on the train.
Now Today Trading Acts posted about it.
And it was as of when I was eating dinner at 110, 115 mil, which is pretty fun.
Got to disclose.
I'm a house coin bull, so I'm having a lot of fun with it.
There's Hostico, which I did a little quick Google on, and it's a bonk, fun, let's bonk cat, I think.
I don't remember what the connection is, but that's at 38 million, or was about 24 hours ago.
Troll, which is just like the troll meme from way old-time internet, was at 33 million.
I think it's come down to maybe like 25 or so and then
neat which i think is a great meme is um in the double digit millions and then a really interesting
one is mvg which is men versus gorillas which has been catching so much mind share over the last like
what three four days people are still talking about it and not really running like commensurately with all
the attention that it's gotten. So I don't know, KB, have you been trenching much? Or like, what
are what are your thoughts on these memes? Do any of them stick out to you?
Yeah, so I have not been trenching at all. Like, I'm pretty sure I have like, the modern day
trench PTSD. But, you know, I think was me and money um in the discord at one point
we were like the trenches aren't back until we see a hundred mil coin and house coin has done that
so and then you kind of see these other coins running um you know with with it. So I'm kind of looking back into it. I will say like,
it does seem alive, the little research that I've done today, even like with Let's Bonk.
One of my friends, I call that at 300k. And I just like completely just I'm not looking anywhere
right now. So I'm like, Oh, that's cool. So people are definitely still active.
The house coin is funny because I just realized that it was basically because of like the
housing crisis like in, you know, that we're dealing with and whether it's like an emotional
outlet or, you know, that we're going to, you know, the housing industry is going to
like collapse.
Like, who knows
man versus gorilla i think is good but i don't think the mind share is going to last much longer
in my opinion house coin definitely has a longer longevity in mind share in my opinion because well it reached 100 mil um but then also just that the housing
market is is a very like huge focus on for for millennials and like zoomers alike um
i'm not a huge fan of the troll meme i think i think they're trying too hard. I've also seen this troll meme, like, probably 20 times now.
I saw a post that was like, you know, oh, the top three memes is, like, Doge, Pepe, and Troll.
And, like, Doge is at 30, whatever, 30 billion.
And Pepe is at 3 billion.
And Troll is only at 30 million and i'm like you
know brother the thing that that's that separates these memes to that meme is that trolls on solana
and i'm sorry man no solana coin is kind of really get that high in my opinion um i don't know neat
i don't know that one i that one I didn't get I
didn't get to but those are the three that I kind of I kind of looked into um I'm not going to I
personally am not going to buy into any of these right now um just because you know I think it's great but nothing has really changed within our industry to
convince me that these coins have any longevity further than like you know right here maybe we'll
see more pump but like I'm just I don't. I think I'd rather pay a little more attention to what's going on in the trenches.
And maybe, you know, I like to play with the low cap.
So I think the only coin worth maybe holding long term is probably Farcoin.
But yeah, I'm not sure about Housecoin.
I don't know.
That's my, uh,
opinion on the means. I am, I think after doing this research and like, I opened deck screener for like the first time and like, who knows how long. Um, and I'm like, okay, maybe I can,
maybe I can dabble again. Um, it's been fun with like Munyan.yan okay i'm sure we'll get to that later just you know the old
like the shilling is just like never goes away it's like riding a bike
like though um but yeah we can talk about that later no right on right on i think that's all
um good analysis um i'm right there with you on a lot of that. The only two that are particularly...
I think that Troll... I mean, look,
I was on the internet in
2011, so I do think that
the Troll meme is nostalgic.
I love the Lord of the Rings,
Saruman dying
Troll video, but I love it in the way
of... I love Power Rangers. I don't
actually think it's good. It's just kind of something
from the past, so I'm actually surprised that it's gotten as much traction as it
has um i think neat is a good meme and uh it's do you uh i don't know if you know what neat is
neat is not um in education employment or training so like if you're a neat it means that you're
basically just like not doing any like
you're totally you're not just unemployed you're not in college you're not like training for like
a trade or a profession or anything like that so you're just like a bum you're literally like the
mom's basement meme um so need is something that like a lot of people on the it's kind of like
it kind of goes along with like incel twitter like that is kind of like the dream is like to be a neat um which i mean look it's kind
of silly but it is funny and like it definitely has a lot of traction just in kind of the circles
that we all run in i feel like um i don't know what the what the ceiling on something like neat
is um but i do think that the fact that these memes are moving in the way that they are
i think you're right kb it feels precarious for sure in terms of the liquidity with these,
like where this has come down from. It really just seems like it's a result of Bitcoin
getting to this like mid 90s price range and just kind of hanging out there for some time.
It feels like people are dipping their toes back into the water. But these are, I mean, definitely like just retail retard degens, just like kind of seeing
how far they can push things.
I wouldn't be surprised if Housecoin on negative news tomorrow went to, you know, 30 or 40
million and had like a crazy pullback.
I also think that it feels like we're on a knife's edge right now, where if we got some potential
positive news like a China deal or something like that coming through, that we could see Bitcoin
break over 100K. And in that scenario, if it's not just a Bitcoin led rally and Solana and ETH
do pump, at least to some degree, I think that you're going to see more liquidity flow back into the trenches. So I feel like the chances of house coin at this point going to, you know, 250, 300,
400 million, which feels toppy to me right now, if I had to call it, is as good as it like just
going back to like, you know, 20 or 30 million. But I want to just, I want to just do a quick,
like little, little like segment here, which is, I want to just talk about like the anatomy
of a meme in terms of house coin. And so I'll just give like why I think house coin is a great
meme. And I'm just shilling, look, I'm talking my own bag. I bought into house coin at 35 million market cap. So not
a phenomenal trade, but I just saw it. I got added to the group chat literally months ago.
And it was just in like my purgatory of like spam direct messages. But I saw it a few times and I
knew that Fapital, who's the guy who's been like shilling this for the longest time, was really
funny. One of the fastest growing accounts
on ct and i just faded it like i had the opportunity to buy it at single digit millions
for a long time and i didn't but when it started to catch i was like i think that this has
a lot of staying power and if there's anything that you know in this field i like to think that
i may be like a borderline expert on very few things in my life, but I do feel like memes are kind of like the, you know, the trade that I talk.
And so I just want to give you like the three things that I find like really interesting about house coin.
And I'll keep it quick because we've got LeBare up here, too.
And I want to say hi to him in just a minute.
OK, house coin, not financial advice.
This is just why I think it's fun.
Three things that I feel like kind of go into that.
Right. House coin.
Number one, the meme, right?
This is kind of how I think about evaluating memes and maybe how I go about in my terms
of like mental models, like put ceilings and floors on a lot of these things.
So first off is the meme, right?
The meme and then the ticker, those kind of go together.
Is it a good meme?
Is it a good ticker?
Is it a good narrative?
For me, Housecoin is a phenomenal narrative.
It's super funny.
It touches on something that's very simple, but very deeply embedded in like this zoomer
mentality that like every person under the age of honestly, like 35 or 40 just feels
like the concept that they're a regular person of owning a home is like totally outside of
reach.
But, you know, Rasmur was like out on
the street and talking to people about like, hey, like, would you rather own a house or own house
coin? And a lot of people were like, yo, like, you know, forget BlackRock, like I'm buying house
coin, like he kind of just taps into this, like on we like this nihilism that is like present in
how people are relating to the housing market. And so it's this like phenomenal narrative,
even though house is not like the most dynamic narrative or not the most dynamic ticker.
But I feel like people just instantly see it and they get it. And the memes that have been
coming out of it have been really funny, like sell your house, buy house coin, just has these
really easy mantras that people can just pick up on. And it's something that people can and are rallying around.
Right. And so in that way, the two other things, I'll keep it quick, that I think are really
like important or helpful. One is like, then you have to look at like, who are the people that are
championing this? Right. Because look, there's a lot of guys out there that are going to be in it.
And is everyone in house coin that's like shilling it hardcore right now people that i'm thrilled with or that i love like no kook definitely was like one of the guys i'd hate kook
like i'll just say it like i really do not like the dude um and i think that there are some other
people like gg posted about it today and people were calling that a top signal maybe it is but
that's going to happen when you have a shelling point in the meme world but ansem being behind it like i look ansem catches a lot of flack some of it rightfully so but he is like the biggest
trench kol like that we have and i do think that ansem tends to stay like faithful to the bags that
he picks and so like that reach is crazy and then you have other people that are like genuinely
interesting funny posters that are like genuinely interesting funny posters
that are like jumping onto the to the bandwagon like it being led by Fapital you just know that
the house coin account which also really matters it's like how is the house how is the meme twitter
like engaging how is it posting they're doing a really good job along with this guy named Lexapro
who's like making video content and those are the things that just like catch and can like get different influencers attention.
And something like Trading Axe,
like coming on board and saying that he thinks it's funny
or honestly just like shilling it
in like a really funny long post
is just like a great extension of the runway
that that meme has in the collective life.
And then just the only other piece that I'll say,
so you've kind of got the meme, right? Is the
meme good? And then on CT, who's behind it? And then the third thing is just, can the narrative
have breakout velocity, right? Can it go beyond crypto Twitter? And that's where I think that,
and look, I'm not trying to be a schizo right here, but I really feel like that's where Fartcoin
being so ridiculous, CNBC will talk about it because it's so silly and
just a great like uh encapsulation of what they think is wrong with crypto in a lot of ways doge
is so silly it's just like this funny dog that's been around for like the longest time it's like
one of the oldest memes on the internet but house coin is the type of thing that cnbc will pick up
on because it has this like TradFi overlap.
It has like real estate Twitter.
Like one of the biggest reasons why like Bitcoin had not one of the biggest reasons, but like it has these haters.
Right. It has like Peter Schiff that thinks like that.
It's just the total worst thing in the world.
And he's so it's like that good attention and bad attention are good in the long run for like building mind share.
And so house coin, I don't know that this will happen,
but I would not be surprised if it gets to 250 or 300 million,
if it starts to like catch trad fi attention,
if it starts to like tap into, yeah,
like a CNBC segment or like something like that,
just in like a funny or like a joking way
that they can talk about in passing.
But then this is where you can get some real different capital that's coming in, which
is not crazy, but it is like software engineers or like guys that are in like AI Twitter or
like whatever it is.
That was the case with a lot of AI agent tokens.
If you guys will think back to that, there were a lot of like San Francisco software
engineers that are making, you know, like 250k a year that were like, yeah, I'll
toss a grand into this, right?
And I feel like, again, if you return to the meme, Housecoin has this kind of like enduring
narrative that even if you're affluent, a lot of people feel and can still tap into
kind of just like the ridiculousness of it.
And just the last thing, it has just like this great, it has an
unrealistic calling card, which is house coin will flip the housing market, which just lets you
never be bounded by any market cap, right? Like the housing market in the world is like $350
trillion. So then you're not tied to like a realistic price target. So any movement upwards is good movement towards that.
And you can peg it to like, oh, now this is worth like more than like, you know, Grant Cardone's
like entire real estate portfolio or like whatever it is, you can meme different people.
Oh my gosh, I really love house coin. Like I just think it's a great meme. I don't have a lot of
money in it either. And look, I still think about selling it and just like, you know, buying a nice watch
or like getting my wife something extra nice for mother's day or something like that. But I'm just,
I'm in it for the meme. I think I would post about, um, house coin, whether it was hot or not.
And, uh, I'm a big fan and same way of far coin. I could do this whole same spiel for Farcoin.
But yeah, I'll take my tinfoil little soapbox cap off right there.
There's a little anatomy of a meme, which maybe we should try to make into a segment.
KB and I have some fun ideas for some pot ideas.
We're going to do some more deep dives on stuff like that.
So keep an eye out for that.
But yeah, there's my little academic spiel. I know that was long. So thanks for that but uh but yeah there's my little uh my little academic spiel i
know that was long so thanks for listening along crew but uh but yeah good um let's let's add a
library for one yes and then you what's up thanks for having me um yeah i think this was like a great analysis from both of you.
I think, yeah, since we had like this 100...
Oh, no, I don't think we can hear you very well.
My head is actually...
Do you have headphones in?
No, I have a mic, like a setting mic.
A what mic?
80% of you, but you're kind of like
cutting in and out just a little bit.
But you can keep going. You can try if you want.
I'm kind of getting what you're saying.
All right, all right. I will try.
Yeah, and I agree on these too.
I think
there's like a lot of change in regards of the
roadmap and i don't know they have pretty good scaling the pretty good roadmap to scaling um
like three years every so like 10x every two years on the layer one
there's like a lot of stable coins like especially the last four months a lot of stable coins
to ease and i think yeah there's a lot of sideline capital, which might be good for the whole ecosystem.
Yeah, but for the meme coins, I'm like KB.
I didn't really like gamble when the market is like
bleeding or go sideways.
But I like Fartcoin to be honest.
It has a great narrative it was like pretty fairly pretty neutral and the way it traded I think most people got flushed out because it like
it retraced pretty hard with the rally and afterwards afterwards when it stopped, it was like over 90%.
So I think most people are a bit sidelined to Fartcoin
and I think the narrative is great.
And I think like in the risk reward perspective,
I like it more than these new coins.
But risk reward is like hard to calculate, but yeah.
Yeah, right on, man.
No, that's all good stuff.
I agree with you.
And yeah, I mean, hey, look, if you're not a Farcoin maxi, like what are you even doing
in crypto?
Like you don't even have to own Farcoin, but like who wouldn't rally behind that?
It is just kind of like a mascot for like the modern Zoomer in the way that like Doge is like kind of a millennial meme, but we all love it like it's our grandfather.
But like Farcoin is for all of us.
So, yeah, we've got some more speakers up here.
Let's say hi.
What's up, Ryan?
How's it going, man?
Oh, yep.
All right.
Ryan might not be here.
Ryan OG, but we'll say hi. Oh, no. Oh, no. He's a listener now. Okay. All right. Ryan might not be here. Ryan OG, but we'll say hi. Oh, no. Oh, no. He's a listener now. Okay. I believe.
All right.
All right.
That's okay.
That's okay.
Here we go.
Ready for this?
All right.
90 mile an hour pitch.
Down the... Right down.
He's sending it.
What's up, Akba?
How are you doing, man?
Hey, thanks for having me.
Let's go.
Let's go.
What's up, Akba?
How are you doing?
Well, I think
the spaces was going a little bit
boring so I came up to
tell you guys a funny story
alright
man well
you're putting
out how big is
how big house coin
is going to be is like great but
it took you so long and i just like came
sleepy that's fair do you have i thought you said you have a story that's fair i know i probably
talked for yeah okay so today i'm gonna tell you guys why i hate ansem so uh do you guys remember
the day the nero coin went out like the two nero coins there were two nero
coins yeah at the time so about nero coin at like 40 million market cap and i was like on roeit at
the time and i was preparing for my first bodybuilding show you know i just couldn't
think straight like i was like staying up at i was staying up until 8 a.m you
know i was talking to nobody i was just smoking cigarettes not even eating anything anyway so i
full ported all my savings it was not much but it was much for me it was like 10k so all my savings into like Nero and the motherfucker, Ansem, decided to make a tweet about the OG Nero.
So it was the other one, not the one I bought.
So my like 10K just vanished, like vaporized.
And I was like, OK, I couldn't't even react like i was just so high on steroids
and that's it you like it yeah i mean i do i don't know i that's a would be a hard story to
like i think it was good content i'm glad that you brought it to the brought it to the space
how did the bodybuilding competition go well i was eliminated
on semi-finals dang wow what a string of bad luck for you i mean aqua the only thing i got i'm not
trying to i'm not trying to roast you i feel like you should definitely roast him well i feel like
the person that you need to be mad at is maybe yourself and not not not handsome
like dude you can't full port your savings into like a 40 million dollar meme coin dude come on
well it went up to like 1 billion after that oh for real after did you sell well yeah i run tripped
Well, yeah, I round tripped.
Dang.
Yeah, man.
Well, that's a tough look, dude.
I'm not going to lie.
But, I mean, yeah, no, it's good.
That's good content.
That shit happens.
Like, maybe I went through that so I can be here today.
Like, butterfly effect.
You never know.
So true.
And you're probably still jacked.
So you've got that going for you. And and also this is just a part of your lord like now when you make it all back you can just
you can you can hunt ansem's liquidation yeah i will tell this story to my like grandkids yeah
right on i mean yeah it it's it's definitely hard to like i don't know if it's a trade um based off of these like
influencer type traders because i've definitely been burned by trading based off of what ansum's
tweeting or buying or like i think i mean i was gonna i've been in a few coins where he like pre
and some tweet and they're like pump and this is before
and I'm like oh my god like I'm gonna be rich like I made it and there's a point where every
single and some pump just got completely sold and I never sold because I was like this is gonna go so much higher and it didn't so now
anytime I'm in a coin that and and he tweets I sell it immediately and I never
look back that's my new strategy I know what you feel I round through it so many
times now I just fucking sell it if it's a tweet if it's a tweet I don't give a
shit I just fucking sell it because I know it's going to zero sell. If it's a tweak, if it's a tweak, I don't give a shit. I just fucking sell it.
Because I know it's going to zero.
Yeah, I mean, it's not a bad approach.
And I don't think that using Ansem as your exit liquidity,
if he gets into a coin that you found your way into,
is like a bad trading strategy at all.
Like, you're definitely going to outperform like the S&P 500 doing that.
So, yeah, man, that's p500 doing that so yeah man that's
that's a good strategy for sure yeah what's up gizmo how you doing
yeah good just uh grabbing my morning coffee because you guys live in like the worst time
zoning comparison to me ever so yeah my morning. Thanks. Gizmo, take us through your, what's your coffee routine?
It depends.
At the minute, I've got like a little like drip coffee, like filter machine, like a Breville.
So I'll rack that up in the morning with a nice, nice back coffee, put a bit of oat milk in it.
Nothing too fancy.
But because I'm in Australia and to be fair, I have to admit after moving here that the coffee here is elite.
Nothing beats the Australian coffee so far.
So definitely check it out.
Even better than San Francisco, to be fair.
Right.
I mean, I got to imagine that the coffee just tastes better, too, because you wake up in Australia.
You got to, like, get some scorpions out of your bed.
You got to, like, punch a kangaroo in the face to like get to your kitchen so like I mean that would that
would give me a hankering for a good cup of coffee oh yeah like I don't even need the trenches anymore
like my adrenaline just goes through the roof as soon as I wake up in the morning right like
you saw it regardless yeah I feel like there's just australia just kind of has like the spirit
of like still being a prison colony in a lot of ways i feel like so you just kind of wake up and
you're like i'm i'm not in jail like i'm gonna drink a cup of coffee like this is
to be fair we actually get when people hear your british accent here they refer to you as a pom
which is prisoner of mother uh eng England so I guess the connotation
is more that England is now the prison colony
which makes sense as soon as you see
any of the way that the UK government's
dealing with any crypto legislation
it's fucked so I mean it kind
of works out right
no that's right you just say like
yeah I'm from England and I have a knife
it's in my kitchen yeah um good pretty much
wow do i have to buy mon onion is this is what kb wants from me she's been harassing me in the
discord for like three days now and like finally i'm now awake at the same time as she so yes yes yes yes you have
to buy munion right now live on spaces we are doing okay we'll have an intermission intermission
on our market around up here so that uh gizmo if that's okay cozy if gizmo can
well like i would just be i'll have like the entire discord like
raid and we're just like kiss my buy money and kiss my buy money and she's just like i just
wanted to have waffles please it was my one day i had like a break in kb have you seen mon onions
like down by like 40 in the last hour well that's a great time to buy perfect that's a dip
will the market ever recover okay absolutely trust me weaker hands are moving out right now
let's see oh wow yeah yeah this is like an amazing time to buy we're back at like
one point this is every time that you convince me to buy something and it just crashes.
No, this is interesting.
Fuck it.
It's not going anywhere.
Okay, right.
How much am I chucking in?
Cozy, what do I chuck in?
What's your recommendation on this as the market expert?
Oh, man.
I mean, everything in your savings is what I would go for.
This is a better
investment than nero in my opinion just like just not even test mon just go straight with usdc you
know you should buy you should buy test mon with real money and then full
just like switch up all my allocation all my portfolio like no more bitcoin no more well
eighth dead anyway no more solana
just wrap it all i like to think that this is like a canon moment for gizmo where like in a few
maybe a few months a year from now gizmo's gonna come back and she's gonna be like
hey this space has been boring uh i just want to tell you guys why i hate kb i follow
i just have a list of all the transgressions he's had for me in the past.
Yeah.
Well, we actually had a running joke that I was homeless in Hong Kong because I bought, well, I bought the wrong flights twice.
Because, yeah.
Anyway, so if this lends up me being homeless in Australia, at least the weather's a little bit nicer.
So, you know, we can roll with that
we can roll with that okay and then remember remember the strategy you have to post it and
then you have to talk about it in the discord so i can screenshot it and post it and say that i got
in the monad discord in the monad discord okay wait hold on let me let me done you did it
yeah yes okay hold on
kb i feel like you need to do like anatomy of a meme for munion like you need to give us like
full breakdown now oh yeah 100 this has been like my passion
project it's crazy that you didn't even launch it i know that's the best part you adopted it
i adopted it um this is the pve that we all need Did you see the tweet that I tagged you in from that health and fitness account that said that eating one onion a day is good for your health?
Yeah, three people tagged me in that.
I was like, can you guys stop fucking tagging me in this shit?
Oh, now we're taking over the Discord again.
Now you gotta post it in Discord so we shut up.
Yeah, I'm gonna be fired from Monad at this point if you guys keep doing this.
You can be like, you can't control the chat.
What the fuck is it?
Bill's online.
Oh my God.
No, okay.
This is it.
Okay.
She did it. let's go okay
do to do
wait i should get like
that perfect
kb what's the
account on munion
what's the what's the
older account
i mean look you should start a rival munion discord What's the older account? Let me look.
You should start a rival
Munion Discord.
What? No, please.
Yeah, actually, you should, but that
would be funny.
Okay, how do I check?
Wait, are you going to track my wallet or something that's the problem
no no no I won't track your wallet
no I'm not going to look
okay congratulations
wait
Katie did we just sell
no I didn't sell
someone's just sold a bunch
oh my god you guys are weak
it's okay trust me
trust the process okay Oh my god, you guys are weak. It's okay. Trust me.
Trust the process.
Okay.
I'm going to post.
Now I can't do two things on one,
so clearly I'm like,
okay, thank you, Gizmo.
Now I'll leave your Discord alone.
Thank you. Thank you.
Appreciate it.
She did it. Hold on. Thank you. Appreciate it. She did it.
Hold on.
Let me tell you guys.
Yeah, you've got to let them know,
because otherwise they're just going to keep going.
I'm going to have to time them out.
She thought we did it.
All right, sick.
Welcome to the Munion army.
Nice.
Okay. You should, you're going to do the Munion army. Nice.
Okay.
You should,
are you going to do a Munion NFT launch, right?
You were saying?
I don't know.
Do you think I should?
I feel like.
I think we could.
Maybe.
I think it'd be fun.
Yeah, I don't know.
We'll see.
The holders, right?
Now that I'm a significant holder, I feel like this is a,
I have a vested interest in its success yeah i mean that definitely like came to mind um you know like maybe if i do if i
do like a munion testnet project or mainnet or who knows like people who hold munion can get a
waitlist i can do, a snapshot or something.
Yeah, we'll see.
But I think, like, it's just been fun to kind of do.
And I think that there's, like, an art.
I honestly do think there's, like, an art to, like, meme coins and, like, shilling and, you know, things like that.
So I don't know if people can like pay attention
to that we gotta get keone to buy and we gotta get intern to buy but intern buys last because
then that's gonna be the top we're dumping on intern so i actually have not shown to intern
once because i know he i know he would buy it.
But I'm going to shill it to him at the very top.
I feel like you also need to have a coin ready to launch as soon as you dump on Intern to retrace the liquidity to.
Right?
Because otherwise, people are going to dump.
And then they'll be like, okay, new coin.
What's next?
And you've got to have one just ripping like just ripping into intern for like being like the ultimate, like worst trader.
Exactly.
It's just hard.
Can we just like, can I, um, ah, actually I might need to DM you this rather than spoil it, but I have an idea of what you could do.
You just have like intern's face photoshopped onto an onion with him crying.
Oh my god.
And the market all down behind him.
Hey, better be careful because people will be launching stuff.
The little supply.
Or a lot of the supply, don't you?
Didn't you have a ton of the supply?
KB's the dev, right?
She's going to rob all of us yeah basically so z launched
it and he he he sent me the entire supply so like yeah i definitely have okay it would actually be
amazing if you got interned by it at a time when you were ready to be done and you just like so it's like sold the entire supply
i know and i've been telling everybody we saw when intern buys nice nice
i'm gonna dump it on him
well i like money and that's a good meme i feel like there's gonna be i mean it's actually gonna
be crazy we are kind of just in like funny land right now on testnet,
but like it's going to be crazy when like all of these things that are like
these like stupid memes and like lore and all of this stuff,
like become a thing on mainnet.
And like people are going to be like, I lost money on money.
And like stuff like that.
It's going to be crazy.
Oh man.
I love you, Gizman. thank you so much You're the best
I love you too, if you rug me
Then I'll be sad
I have no threat for you KB
I'll just bully Nick instead
Before your discord
Nick hasn't bought yet
What? And you've been bullying me
Get Nick in I know, I know Nick hasn't bought yet. What? And you've been bullying me?
Get Nick in.
I know, I know.
Well, my strategy is bullying the entire Monad team.
Okay, okay.
Wait, has Danny bought?
Wait, are you going to get John to buy?
Because I feel like I have to sell if John buys. Yeah, see, like, I'm...
It'll be painted.
So, like, I'm starting...
Like, I'm not small, but, like, you know,
just, like, I haven't done the guys yet for a reason.
But I did show to Keone today.
He liked it, but I don't know if he bought it.
Did you guys see
Keone changed his
PFP?
And what tweet did he
I for sure
It was Glitter.
It was Glitter.
PFP project
or his testnet project, hold on.
I just pinned to the top.
I don't know what it is.
You know what it is, Gizmo?
Wait, what?
i'm trying to recover the discord after your raid
I'm trying to recover the Discord after your raid.
well keone changed okay so keone changed his pfp it's it's like it's like a weird
edit of his old dog which i guess is what an ago and but then which is funny enough because i saw
him and there's so many people that impersonate keone and like have the
same pfp and i get duped all the time because i see something like out of pocket and i'm like
what did keone just say and then i'm like oh that's not keone that's freaking like you know
dummy and add or whatever um but keone changed his pfp and then he tweeted two hours ago, Monad nurses with like the face like.
That's an NFT collection that a community member's made called Monad now.
Or someone built it around Drake.
Is that right?
Because of the nurses?
I think Drake built it, right?
Yeah.
Is he in?
I don't think he's in the call today.
I'll send the link to KB to pin.
Gosh, that's so funny.
Okay, are they Antonios?
Is that what it is?
Yeah, so I thought the same thing, Cozy. So yeah, so Nurses is a AI project from Drakey
because we all know that he got bit by a dog
and he's been in the hospital now for like two weeks.
He's insane, you know, and he's bored
and he doesn't have his PC with him.
So he like made Monad nurses from the hospital bed
and it's pretty cool.
It's really good.
Like, and, yeah, that's what Keone.
I was actually very shocked at the Keone tweet.
And I didn't, and same thing, I didn't realize it was Keone at first because of the PFP.
I had missed that part of him changing it.
And I'm just like, what is happening?
Yeah, I agree and I feel like Keone like I'd like to think um I've had the real sensation like I can't listen to rap music
anymore in my life just because whenever I listen to rap I just have this picture of myself of like
what I look like as I'm listening to rap music and it's just like too ridiculous I like to think about like what Keone looks like when he like sends these like ridiculous like out-of-pocket tweets
he had a banger today too um okay like he replied to a mod ad nurses post and he said where did you
find this like that's hilarious what did he say something like, oh, I can't believe I won on like some tweet.
And yeah, I mean, the dude is just like very active on Twitter, which I commend him for.
I'll have to find this.
Oh, here it is.
Okay.
It's so good.
good um but yeah this is somebody saying like keone is a bijana millionaire now because the
farcaster support you can do tipping now and so he sent a million bijana to keone and and
keone's like omg can't believe i won thank you bijana team keep doing the great work
is so funny dude oh my i mean like keoni is like genuinely
like a good poster on twitter it's like incredible
yeah shout out to the big man man that nurses whoo dude also like shout out keoni like he
is so good at like liking everybody's stuff i feel like. He's on top of everyone's content.
He likes everyone's stuff.
He definitely makes everyone feel seen, I feel like,
in the community when they're bullposting Monad
and things like that.
So definitely give it up to Keone for that
because he'd be liking everything.
Yeah, I agree. Intern was on a podcast like a week or
two ago it's um tristan iver's podcast i think it's called y-axis and uh intern was he kind of
tells this whole story which is like pretty cool if you want to hear about how he got involved with
monad and his thoughts on the team and the project and all that stuff is very cool but he talks about keone and how like keone when he met him in probably like late 2022 early 2023 was just kind of like had been a jump
trader was not really like classically like a twitter guy at all had a very small account
and uh an intern was like hey like we're really gonna need like some founder-led marketing like
it would be great if you can just try your best so like posting and all this stuff and within like two months intern
said like keone had just like morphed and he was like he just learned crypto twitter like he just
became good at it and he really he just is kind of like a cyborg in that way i feel like he just
kind of got like the matrix card and he like downloaded it into his brain but no for sure kudos to keone
the dude is awesome so that's super funny man i mean it's been a fun week for monad like there's
been a lot of cool announcements coming from maine it feels like every day there's been like a new
collaboration or partnership that's kind of um being announced like today there was farcaster
which is fun um i i haven't been on farcaster in
a while here but honestly monad integrating with them made me want to get back on and uh have some
fun with it um there were some like there was some cool content and people that were over there
fireblocks um is going to be live day one um i don't know if you guys are familiar with Fireblocks, but it's essentially Fireblocks is kind of like institutional grade wallets.
It's like an institutional grade wallet and like clearinghouse and all these things for institutions to be able to interact on chain so it's kind of like if you're like you know
blackrock or something like that you're not going to like log on with like your phantom wallet or
like whatever it is to go on chain and so fireflies fireblocks basically just like facilitates
when like large entities like want to go on chain and so fireblocks like being present on day one
is just going to unlock a lot of like very sophisticated and like serious
players that are going to be able to come on chain um from day one which yeah no it's just like
super exciting chain link's going to be available so another great oracle that'll be there and then
the the privy announcement with covering all those privy integrations so yeah i mean the the biz dev
team is just like getting after it lately like there's been a lot
of cool announcements so it's super exciting to see yeah man kb where do you think we go from
here i've got another topic or two we could jump into is there anything that's really
striking your fancy here uh based on our notes sure yes yes because we have notes
we have notes we have notes we're so professional um hold on i can't find your dm though bro like
telegram is a cesspool i just it's so it's so rough out here so um okay yeah i mean okay okay the true
social thing it like took me back a little bit like what do you mean true social is gonna launch
utility token and wallet like what about my trump coin what's going on here it's so true. And there's like no information out about it right now, except that like Zoomer said
that like True Social is going to launch its own crypto coin and wallet.
So I actually really don't think there's like any context here.
But but like the Zoomer news account like posted it.
So, yeah, I mean, they're getting in the game, though.
Like, yeah yeah this is yeah all it really said
was that they're exploring the possibilities of launching a utility token in a digital wallet
shareholder ceo devin nunes said that um and that it could initially facilitate payments for truth plus subscriptions um
so yeah that would be um you know truth.fi it's a fintech uh platform but nothing like
no blockchain has been like introduced or like no blockchain has been like mentioned or anything
um technically like crypto the words crypto haven't even been like said but when you're
talking utility token digital wallet you know that's going to be like the main thing so
yeah i don't know yeah i mean social has already become kind of like a meme stock. Like it got pumped like crazy and was kind of being treated as almost like a proxy for Trump when it was first launched as a stock itself.
The crazy thing, this is totally deep cut and doesn't matter at all.
But like you mentioned Devin Nunes, KB, who is the CEO of Truth Social.
And he's like talking about like, yeah, we're exploring launching a utility
token and a wallet. Devin Nunes is a former congressman. He's a former congressman. And he
was the chair of the House Intelligence Committee for four years. So like this guy was like one of
the most powerful people in the government, like, I mean, five years ago. And now he's running a
social media company that no one uses and talking about, yeah, launching a wallet and utility token, which honestly just kind of sounds like he's one of us.
Honestly, that's just kind of like the crypto experience.
It's like, hey, no one uses our platform.
Like, what if we launch a utility token in a wallet?
So maybe they get it.
Yeah, that's good there's also i don't know kb did you have any reaction to
the um the fantasy top like clout news like did you look into this at all or did you register
i did register um but i am not really paying too much attention
i know that i i understand kind of like the Kaido thing and that thing,
but it's a lot.
It's a lot to kind of keep up with these like social media things,
you know, with Kizzy too and that even just being fake.
So I'm starting to like shut down a little bit
when it comes to like some social, like social-fi, I guess.
But do you know what it's about
like are we now is it kind of like a kaido thing where there's like keywords and they're measuring
um or or i don't know you're pretty you're pretty in tune with fantasy top yeah i don't have the
greatest read on how the mechanics work but they haven't really said a lot.
I think the interesting thing is, and far be it for me to sow seeds that are untrue, but Fantasy, it seemed, realized the value of Kaido and was doing some integrations, like collaborations with them and everything. And then a few weeks went by and then like they announced Cloud, which kind of seems like a direct proxy for Kaido in a
lot of ways. Although I'm sure they're going to be fine tuning the algorithm and like doing some
different, you know, AI scrubbing. And I, so I don't know what they're looking for. I don't know
what they're pulling from. All I know is like from my own personal account, you know, on days where I'm just posting like a little bit, I'll get maybe,
you know, like five or 10 clout points or clout. And when like I had a banger maybe like a week
ago or something and I got like 50 or 60 cloud, right? So like it just is kind of like a social
scoring system based off of posting content. I don't think they've really put out anything about the parameters or what's being captured or how that works.
But the whole gist of it is that what you're competing for is over the course of, I think it's either three or four weeks in these seasons that they have going on now,
these seasons that they have going on now basically the top 15 clout gainers win a spot as a hero on
fantasy top so you basically can like earn your way into like this revenue generating card on
fantasy top which is like pretty cool and like some number of them i don't remember what the exact number is but will become tactics cards as well which you guys might not be familiar with tactics
because that's kind of before the monad fantasy top days but tactics were basically these like
24 hour competitions where instead of like fielding a deck of the cards that you own
tactics would basically give you like i think it was 25 cards to choose
from that had the different star requirements um and you could fill out a lineup you had like two
minutes to like select from these um random cards that you didn't own but you just got them randomly
selected that you could pick from and then you would like compete in these different short duration tournaments with other people based off of their one day performance so those are coming
back and if you get to a certain point you'll be able to win you'll be able to become a tactics
hero and make revenue off of that as well because the tactics revenue and the hero card volume are
both shared with heroes which which is pretty cool.
So, yeah, I mean, it kind of just remains to be seen if this is going to become like
something more than just competing to be a hero.
Right.
There's a lot of people that are speculating.
I mean, people have talked about like a token for fantasy for the longest time, but like
could cloud become its own kind of farm or whatever it is in addition to fan points?
Not entirely clear.
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to speculate out of turn, but I do think that Fantasy is one of the best farms out there.
Just on the off chance they do ever drop a token.
They have raised from Manifold and from Dragonfly now in their pre-seed and seed.
So maybe that's the path for them going forward.
But even if not not there's a lot
of like really solid rewards that you can win just by playing the game weekly and the apr that
you can get on just like playing smart lineups every week is like pretty darn good even if there
isn't a token that comes down the line so this is very fun and an interesting wrinkle for sure i
don't exactly know candidly like how i feel totally about clout but i think
it's just cool that the team keeps on trying new things so if you haven't gone and registered yet
um yeah you should go get on board for clout because it's pretty fun
yeah and i'll pin it to the top um a little bit of a um breaking news here. It looks like the Hyperliquid Twitter page just got hacked.
What?
Yeah, like 30 minutes ago.
Should I?
I don't want to pin the post.
So I guess like, I don't know.
But yeah.
Yeah, there's a hype allocation checker on the page.
So Hyperliquid Twitter page page is hacked do not click any
links stay vigilant um this is this is actually a really this is actually a really funny story
now that i'm gonna i'm gonna pivot to this so and this is a good kind of a good story to like
let you guys know because i actually almost fell for it because I'm so, I'm a bit airheaded, but like, but also I didn't fall for it because
I am so airheaded and I kind of like totally like forgot about it.
But this person that like I knew from the last bear market, so like you know when um i was like 2022 or something and we were
on a few spaces probably in the past i was in a few different nft communities but somebody's been
around and this person has around like 8 000 followers and we have 600 mutuals and i've you
know spoken to this person before but not in a really long time um but he sends me
a dm and is like hey how are you like whatever and he's like I want to do like a web 3 movie
and you know interview you and like I would I mean like I would never do it anyways um and I
was trying to like avoid it but I felt bad because like I know that he's like a nice
guy and I was like oh yeah and I was like and I was like okay he and then he talks about a zoom
link which didn't like register with me right away and because I wasn't thinking and he's like
can you get on a zoom right now and I definitely couldn't because I need to schedule my things and I'm like
no way I'm way too busy like I was like he's like when can you like well let's like circle back on
Monday because I think it was like on a Friday or something I'm like I'm gonna hang out on the
weekend like I can't be doing this and so like I was like I will circle back Monday and then at
that point somebody else had mentioned this user and I'm like wait um this seems sus and I
reached out to a friend of mine who also is mutual I'm like hey like do you remember him
and she goes oh yeah his page has been hacked for like months like the hacker stole his page
and he had to make a new one but it's been active for months and we've tried to make like alerts but
you know the algorithm just doesn't get everybody
and I'm like damn this motherfucker was definitely trying to get like get on a zoom link
so for about like two weeks now I've just been like messing with him and I'm like oh yeah yeah
let's do it this day and so like I have like a zoom call with him tomorrow at 1 p.m and then at like
12 30 I'm gonna be like oh hey i gotta reschedule let's
let's circle back on like next monday so i'm just gonna see how long i can like cancel my
zoom meetings with him just to like fuck with the scammer anyways that's my scam story
yeah it's actually it's i mean the one um yeah no i feel like a lot of people are getting hacked
lately which is really weird you wonder what the security measures are in all these situations i
don't know um but uh the hyper liquid one is just interesting because I noticed, have they always only had a blue check?
Because I was surprised. I literally noticed within the last day or two Hyperliquid that they had the blue check and not the gold corporate check.
And I was like, that just seems weird.
So I don't know if there's anything connected there.
And maybe they just don't have the gold check, which I don't think necessarily gives you any more heightened security or anything like that.
But very strange.
How is this happening?
Sometimes I've heard that there's people...
Like when DB, Tier 10K, got hacked, he said that he had a YubiKey and 2FA and all these things.
And so they thought it was from internally at X.
Yeah, very very weird all the
same and also kb you were talking about this like vfriends also got hacked today
so yes the vfriends page got hacked although i feel like i would probably make an roi on the
hacked vfriends token than like the actual vfriends token yeah real i mean like i think
that people probably saw just like vfriends and were like what like are they still is gary v like
still alive like what is he even doing these days he's probably at a garage sale somewhere
oh man wow well that's kind of a bummer that Hyperliquid. But I went and checked Hyperliquid token unaffected. It is up six and a half percent in the last day, chilling at $19.72. So I feel like I don't want to say that hacks don't matter because they do matter um but i do feel like we're at just a different
place right now than like the 2021 mania where like people were just they were just geared up
man they were just like ridiculous for any airdrop anything that was coming out the i mean also there
were just a lot more board apes in the in at that time. People were just clicking links, man.
They were just getting after it.
And also, wallets, I think, have come a long way in terms of identifying scams and stuff like that.
So, yeah, don't want to say it's just a blip on the radar, but it does seem like just one of these things now where you kind of have to be responsible for yourself.
like don't click sudden airdrops like no one wants to give you like free money that has never been
Don't click sudden airdrops.
announced in like a poorly structured english tweet from a well-known account so yeah don't
don't be stupid but yeah yeah kb i don't know i don't really have a lot more i think that might be
this might be a good place to wrap it. This has been a good space.
Yeah, yeah. I think we're good on everything unless anybody on the panel has anything interesting they want to say or, you know, feedback or anything like that.
Everyone buy an onion, so I make a positive pnl please thank you yes everyone has to buy
onions now um also also in the comments guys um if there's any topics that um interest you
you can definitely uh hit us up in the comments and we can look them up or search or
you know anything like that either even if even if it's like something that's like
long-term research or spur of the moment like on the space so um that's always open as well
but yeah we're gonna um i'll give you guys should give them a little alpha about next week yeah for
sure okay next week is gonna be a really really big week that's all i got all right guys next week is gonna be really big it's gonna be really i mean what do you think we
can say without getting in trouble um well i think really i actually think that that probably is like
the extent of it um no there's gonna be a fun activation going on there's gonna be a lot of
energy we're gonna have a competition going on maybe that's all we'll say it's gonna be that's
a lot you said a lot oh okay well hey we love you there's also not a ton of they you're special you
guys are special for coming to kuru live new life in the trenches it's gonna be a fun week next week that's all i can say yeah
yeah come bug me in the discord for the alpha yes 100 yeah guys no you're gonna want to be
around for next week it's gonna be a lot of fun i think we're gonna aim to also do like a special
space next week um we might be even having a few more pop-ups so just keep an eye out for that i'm
looking forward to it i hope you guys are there thanks a lot for hanging out with us tonight guys it was fun to shoot the breeze with
you all do some anatomy of a meme even if it was boring um to talk about everything going on on the
market right now so thanks to our speakers um for coming up headphone library gizmo akba we
appreciate you guys um it's been a lot of fun and uh yeah look forward to being back with you all
next week it's gonna be big so i hope you guys come and join been a lot of fun. And yeah, look forward to being back with you all next week. It's going to be big.
So I hope you guys come and join us.
Yeah.
Thanks for your energy, man.
It was like you were so energetic.
I love it.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
We're going to bring the dude.
We're bringing the energy.
And I'm going to double it for next week, dude.
We're going to be crazy.
I'm going to be juiced up.
Black coffee in a zin.
I'm going to raid Gizmo's house and steal her Australian her australian blend we're gonna go crazy it's gonna be very
fun so looking forward to it guys have a great rest of your night and we will be back here
um next week and uh yeah thanks so much for joining us peace out guys
