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Late Night Conspiracy: What Is This?!?
Recorded: June 26, 2025 Duration: 4:22:36Space Recording
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thank you All right, what's up, everybody?
We haven't done one of these in way too long, although we do the podcast now.
So you guys are just going to have to tune in to tinfoil
on tokens Mondays and Thursdays.
Although there's a lot of conspiracy stuff to talk about.
What's funny is like, what's crazy about conspiracies is like one of the most difficult
communities because like it inevitably
always turns inward.
Like the conspiracies always end up about other people in the conspiracy
space being part of the conspiracy.
Like for example,
what the fuck happened to Alex Jones?
Right?
You see him?
Is he on the Ozempic?
Because I'm not buying that he's taking...
What did he say?
It was like, oh, I'm on seaweed and kale and shit.
Like, no, bro.
We know Ozempic face when we see it.
Well, what'd they make you do after the trial and all this crap they put you through
but i don't know it's funny because i was thinking about the guys remember the prediction space it's
like we do it every year it's like what are your predictions for the year i remember i told
everybody like i expect good things trump's win. Called that one. Actually, Trump's going to win, I guess.
Called a bunch of like, I'm generally pretty positive.
I thought it would be rough at first and then start getting better towards the end of the year.
But the one place that I told people that we would be disappointed was in the area of disclosure.
That for whatever reason, they would fight.
Right.
And here we are, Epstein files.
Nope, not really.
JFK files.
Oh, but Dustin, they totally released JFK files.
Oh, yeah, where's the fucking autopsy pictures?
Can somebody point me to the videos that are in the JFK files?
Right?
Like, I don't need to read every fucking memo
that every government bureaucrat wrote
about the JFK shooting in the immediate...
Where's the actual fucking juice?
That's what I want to see, and that...
Nope.
Ain't wrong.
Like, half, at least half, probably more than half of the quote unquote disclosures that have come through like the Congress have been debunked like within hours.
Like, oh, here's a picture of an alien spaceship.
And dude, you can't get away with that shit. The internet now, they're like, actually, bro, that's just a reflection of the chandelier on the lens of your camera.
Like, that's not an alien spaceship.
Like, what the fuck are you doing?
And, dude, like, I keep one very solid foot in UFO world, conspiracy world, because I love it.
But, like, dude, they're in total disarray like it's all about
like who's psyoping who inside of the disclosure community and i'm just over here like i just want
to know like how many fucking shape-shifting reptilians are running around i think this
might be best reflected with my friend Ashton Forbes.
If you don't know Ashton, Ashton's the MH370 guy, right?
And he's basically just blown a fucking gasket with the whole thing the last couple weeks.
Where he's just like, what are we fucking doing here, people?
what are we fucking doing here people like we have video multiple videos now a couple other
came out of orbs circling fucking jets and then them disappearing and right like all kinds of
like this leads to a whole area of physics that like we can uncover that says that we have
technology like this is real it's not necessarily alien either this is just like technology that we have technology like this is real it's not necessarily alien either this is just like
technology that we have why are we continuing to like chase after fake pictures of chandeliers
reflecting on people's cameras well that's exactly why they get injected right and so i'm not sure
what topic i want to tackle tonight i can tell you what topics I don't want to tackle.
I don't want to talk about fucking Israel and Iran and the fucking war.
Like, we've kind of beat that shit to death, right?
We could do that in a thousand different day spaces if you guys want.
I'm not really in the mood to talk about, like, fucking...
I definitely don't want to talk about fucking New York and fucking the Zohan or whatever.
Because that, right, it's just kind of fucking boring. Like boring like you know we'll do what we got to do with it but like i want some fucking juicy so
i was disappointed again right so like i i have my crew in this inside disclosure world right so
like my crew augustus right you guys don't know augustus he's a
man i love that guy tupacabra right big fan of tupa red panda and like that that's kind of like
my crew inside disclosure world right and then i know a bunch of the whistleblowers like i i for
whatever reason whistleblowers often come to me like no one
else will talk and i'm like yeah that's a platform bro what go wrong sometimes it goes wrong but um
like eric hecker so i think eric hecker was was this week that we had eric hecker on um
Hecker was, was it this week that we had Eric Hecker on preservation of the human race?
So Eric Hecker is the Antarctica whistleblower.
He was like a plumber slash, like he was head of the like emergency fire brigade at the South Pole.
And he brought, right, his whistleblowing.
What I like about Eric is that like he purposely doesn't draw a bunch of conclusions.
He just reports about, like, the weird shit that he saw that he knows.
Which is, there's a bunch of, like, devices, like, gridded out down into the ice.
out down into the ice and that they're able to use these devices to both receive and transmit
lots of energy like lots and lots and lots and i think it's related to the tesla coils
and i don't know i was thinking that i guess I could get away from this thought either.
You guys remember the State of the Union address?
They caught Joe Biden on a hot mic.
Right?
Whatever mask, whichever version of Biden it was.
I'm not sure if it was Bolchenian Biden or Bicycle Biden or Retard Shit-In or uh retard shit his pants by it could have been any
of them i don't remember um but he was walking through the crowd and they come on hot mic being
like we have to do something about these blue roofs roofs this is like right after maui
where it's like everything's laid to waste.
Except like right underneath the blue umbrella.
I've been trying to like fucking wrap my head around how that would work. Like what kind of energy.
That like we understand.
Would be.
Able to like light everything in fire.
Unless it's blue.
That's gotta be some kind of
fucking energy
that they're not going to teach about, right?
I see Dustin wailing down there.
He probably has some fucking technical
explanation to get me.
I sure as fuck don't know.
Although, I should probably paint my roof
blue, right?
Do we all agree?
You haven't done that yet?
What's wrong with you?
Oh, goddammit, Sally.
You really...
Well, Gus, I put up in the nest three examples of really extremely odd weather that is happening across the United States right now.
And tonight there was a massive weather anomaly again,
but this time it was in Alabama.
And you have to look at the radar
because it's really like there's something going on.
And then we also have lightning,
rainbow lightning,
and then these weird-ass lights in Japan.
And that's just scratching the surface
of the weird weather anomalies
that are happening around the world. Oh, so you know what pisses me off of the weird weather anomalies that are happening around the world.
Oh, so you know what pisses me off
about the weird weather anomalies and stuff?
there's one night,
you'll remember this, Jen,
when we were in Pahrump.
So, like, one of the coolest places to be
if you want to, like, stare at the sky
is in the middle of the desert
where there's no light pollution, right?
Like, that, if you want to go out,
you want to see some cool shit,
that's where you gotta go.
And we look up, and there is
the weirdest fucking light,
like, perfect circle light formation
surrounding the moon.
And Jen, like, looks it up.
Oh, good, Mazes here.
Jen, like, looks it up oh good mazes here um jen like looks it up and um they're like oh this happens all the time shut the we have not had rainbow fucking lightning
before what are you talking about you know what i mean like they're always like oh here's you know
it's actually totally natural and normal and stuff it's like what
on god's green fucking earth are you
talking about but I don't know I've reached
a level of paranoia about like misinformation
now that like
even the radar stuff it would be so
easy to fucking fake with fucking
the like AI tools and shit
we have now you know what I'm saying
so like so cold
here in Utah I mean it's it was 70 degrees
it was 65 one day 63 another day and it was 70 like 74 yesterday and i think it got to the 80s
today but it's really it's july this is not normal weather ah okay real quick mazeaze I talked to Tom can you please unblock Tom
he promised he
we came to an understanding that I could give you the co-host
so it doesn't boot him
sure
yeah I got you
hey guys
can I just tell you guys about the sky
a minute ago I was driving
I was actually on the phone
with Rachel I was like oh shit the
whole fucking sky it's nighttime it like flashed like orange it first started on the left then it
started like these big orange flashes i'm like what is that she's like take the video i'm like
bye i hung up on her um and i took a but by the time i i did get a little video of it
but it was only like it was a much smaller version of what the very big one it was just
it's startling i mean it was and it was orange and it wasn't lightning i don't know what it was
anyway well that goes to what happened in new york the other day. There was a clap of thunder that was the loudest thunder ever recorded, like ever.
And there has been all these reports of like, and I don't know if you've noticed us, like
the thunder has been ungodly, like so loud.
And like, it's happening all over where the the thunder and the lightning are there's
something there's something wrong wait so was this like northern lights looking stuff maze
sorry i was sharing the space it was no like the the very first one was a startling like sunrise in the middle of the
night type shit it was weird it was crazy then it happened again but it was like smaller flare-ups
of it like you know like little like like aftershadow like I don't know how to explain it
but it was like one massive one and then they started getting smaller and smaller like but it was like in these random pockets and I mean I did get one of them on um got a picture of one of them
but it was like it was I mean not it was like a short little video where you can see it lighten up
but it was very unusual and yes there's been times where the thunder felt like i was like what the fuck is that it felt like the
ground is shaking but it's not it's just noise it's like loud it's so loud that it almost feels
physical like more than audible you know like it was very just you know like shoots through you
and shit i know what you're talking about. It's crazy. Very interesting.
No, so I'm always curious.
It's one of the questions I always ask people when they see some of these anomalies is like, how did, right?
Like we have what we see.
We have what we hear.
But like often when you see the shit there's also some other feeling
that gets injected somehow you know what i'm saying like often when people for example when
people see or when we've heard all of the stories of people having some kind of encounter
they're either filled with a sense of peace or a sense of terror.
Are you getting that?
When you saw the stuff, I guess, what were your feels?
Like tonight?
Yeah.
It was just a startle.
It was, I truly, look, it takes a lot to shock me or to scare me
or to, like, startle me.
I would say that there wasn't, like, it takes a lot to shock me or to scare me or to startle me. I would say that there wasn't any dread or anything.
It was very like, ooh, that was not natural.
That's the feeling that I got.
It was like a startle because it was so big, too.
It was big and it wasn't natural.
Pole shifting.
Something, something, girl. I don't something girl i don't know i don't know
it definitely was one of those like um yeah it just it just completely something and
too big for it to seem like it was anything human but it was you know like i don't know
like it was just one of those very startling that's
what i can say um i here let me actually some let me um get the uh little short video i just
need to edit out the parts that i was waiting for it because i'm talking um i was trying to
but anyway yeah let me put up in the nest So, you know what bugs me about this?
Which is, we've been noticing weird shit.
So, if you guys don't know, Jen is somebody who's constantly staring at the sky.
I don't think she'd even argue with me on that.
Right?
100%. Right?
And it's one of those things that, like 90 of the time she's like oh my god
look at this i look up and i'm like meh i don't know what the fuck that is like you know i mean
i can't tell but look how i don't have the patience like sit there and stare at it long
enough to be like oh it's moving this way or that way but who are we supposed to believe like what i've come to
like learn is that like sometimes though it's unignorable right like there's clearly weird
one of the things like for example that i think is man-made we clearly have in the skies in the usa right fucking now some kind of drone defense system
like have you guys seen this so there'll be a series of drones like in your line of sight
they're clearly drones because they move they've got the flashing lights. But you can see them communicating with each other as they kind of like form a great pattern in the sky.
Jen, I know you've seen it.
Dude, I see it all.
Oh, yeah, I'll explain now.
I can't hear him.
You guys hear him?
She muted, I think.
Oh, hey, sorry.
Yeah, I had my hand up.
So as you guys were talking about extreme weather,
I have some really brilliant lightning going on.
You may even hear something in the background.
I'm dealing with kind of a fun storm.
But the other day, I was driving.
I'm in North Carolina. The other day I was driving i'm in north carolina the other day i was driving
and uh the storm head came in and it literally looked like a tsunami type wave in the sky
like the cloud itself was so thick and it was so much lower than all the other clouds right
and this thing rolled in and i had to pull off the road i mean i literally had to stop driving it was so intense it was like insane water and insane like rain and crazy wind and uh and that happens like in
north carolina often so it's not super uncommon but just the shape of the cloud and the way it
moved in and then uh i think maize was talking about something about lightning and like the
lightning struck like so close to me while i was driving that i felt it in my stomach like the the like food like it was like a flash an immediate
boom and i just felt it in my belly you know like it was just so close and so intensely you know like
and uh it's wild when you see stuff like that uh the only other thing i wanted to throw out there
real quick uh just because you guys are talking about really wild weather and crazy weather, is two times in my life.
One was in western Massachusetts and one was in upstate New York.
I saw thundersnow, or I forget whatever they call it, but it's basically like a blizzard.
And there's thunder and lightning happening during a blizzard.
And when that happens, it's such a crazy experience like
the first time i ever witnessed it you know i grew up up like in the in new england area my whole
life like when i was a kid so like i saw all sorts of snow and blizzards but i never in my life had
ever seen thunder and lightning during a blizzard and it's like the wildest experience i've only seen
it twice but it's crazy and when it happens and it doesn't feel real like it's just it's like the wildest experience i've only seen it twice but it's crazy and when
it happens and it doesn't feel real like it's just it's the weirdest experience just to see
it because like they don't go together usually either so i i've been a couple of the blizzard
lightning storms too and that there's something about the light and the snow, right? Because it's so white.
And the reflections off the snow, like, create, like, a level of craziness.
I was on a call this afternoon.
And we live in Florida.
So, like, this time of year where we get afternoon rain, like, you know, little monsoons and fucking thunder and lightning.
Sometimes, like, every day for, like, days in a row.
I had a couple, like, I was call smoking a cigarette and had a couple lightning strikes that like really close
like i could see where they hit
thunderlands and i'm like damn but there's something about like dude i get fucking way wacky in thunderstorms like when
lightning's going off around me i feel like it fucks with my electrical circuit you know what
i'm saying so like when you talk right with joe you're talking about it like feeling it in your
belly i also feel it in my fucking head right like it's like i'm scrambled for a minute
so i like it i like it like i i so like i a minute it could be the bare method so i like it i like
it like i i so like i kind of think of it as a prayer mechanism right like like is you know i
think i'm more of a hindu so i like the thunder lightning god concept if you will like uh i'm
into divinity but my understanding of divinity is just my own you know but i think that like lightning is an aspect
of divinity and so i think that that's such a like raw show of power and like what like again
it splits a tree in half like i had a tree explode like down the street from my house when it blew up
i was sitting on my porch and like i literally like screamed holy shit because it was like a
bomb blew off but it blew an elk tree in half like
fucking you know like two streets down have you ever heard of fox fire have you ever heard of
fox fire it's a weird phenomenon with lightning i live in tennessee man i got filled across my
street man this one time there was a thunderstorm you know that high lightning where it's not like
bolts it's just in the clouds you know what i'm where it's not like bolts. It's just in the clouds. You know what I'm saying?
It's up there in the clouds. Yeah, we call it like heat lightning.
Heat lightning. We oftentimes call it like heat
lightning because it's like when it's super hot.
We got a lot of it.
Dude, I've seen this and
trust me on this, man. Like, I don't know what
the hell it was, but
it was kind of like heat lightning, but it was
open soon.
This literally happened to me right now.
That type of lightning is super high up in the clouds.
It's very bright, you know, and the thunder is, like, far, you know.
Okay, but here, like, check it out, man.
I was sitting on my porch.
Me and my fiancΓ© were sitting on my porch watching the high lightning,
and it was such a strong storm off.
It was a long field.
Like, you could see out
distance it was such a strong storm that my fiance looked at me and was like what is that
it literally looked like the aurora boreal
it's an old
i think the lightning got your signal, Michael.
Michael, you're rubber banding really bad.
No, I was just going to say you're rubber banding a little bad.
Are you going through bad reception?
Go ahead. Try again. Try again.
All right. Can y'all hear me, guys?
It's a little bit better, yeah.
Keep going. I'll let you know if it gets bad again.
It's a phenomenon. It's called Fox fire. It's an ancient like Indian. I don't know which culture, but I live in Tennessee. There's a plane. I'm seeing this heat lightning, right? High cloud lightning. And like it makes this red aura that comes down and literally is touching the field.
And I was like, do you see this?
And my fiance was like, yes, I see this.
She's the one that pointed it out.
It literally looked like a second sun.
This is at 10 o'clock at night, dude, in Tennessee, Eastern Standard Time.
10 o'clock, and it's literally like an aura, like the Aurora Borealis coming down to the field, and it's called Foxfire, is what my mother told me, and you know how
stories, you know, I'm part Cherokee, I live in Tennessee, I'm born and raised, I got blood,
I have stories that my grandpappy tells me, and my grandma tells me. But look it up, dude.
Like weird weather phenomenon.
Yeah.
I saw one, dude.
And when I seen it, it was the most beautiful fucking color I have ever seen in my life, guys.
And it was all because of that lightning story.
So I've got.
Welcome, everybody.
Repost the space.
Number one.
We already got a nice crowd in here man you guys
missed conspiracy space apparently let's freaking go um one of you guys needs to get like somebody
a couple of you text cheney because she's been trying to get me to talk about some shit for like
two weeks and you guys know how i am when i'm doing something else i'm just like
i'm not right i'm kind of like i actually want to like tie in some of the cheney stuff so
we should try to get cheney in here well like what i'll get her in here but like what well
i'll get there but on this oh no previews okay no, because like I don't want her to miss it.
And like, you know, I texted her a little while ago and I sent her a message on here.
So I don't know what the heck is going on.
So somebody else follow up.
Blow up her phone.
Listen, if she doesn't make it, we'll talk about it anyway.
But a couple things.
So I want to just pause it.
I have a couple things that could be happening to try to
so one of the things I like that Michael said is that his mom told him about
Foxfire not fucking chat GPT so right just tell you guys right now people are
giving their critical thinking skills over to large language models.
That shit is already starting to atrophy.
And our level of dipshits is increased.
Just look at what happened in fucking New York.
And that's all you need to know.
Dude, I know what I saw, man.
And I appreciate you having my back on that, bro.
I know what I saw, man, and I appreciate you having my back on that, bro. I know what I saw, and that shit was some of the most amazing colors that I've ever seen in my life, dude.
Like, I've been to Alaska.
I've never seen the Aurora Borealis, but that's what I would imagine it to be like, you know?
And that's in Tennessee because of a lightning storm.
Like, weather, Mother Nature is not something to mess with, dude.
Like, it is so much bigger than anything, dude.
Well, the thing that's important, because in history, right, so if you go back and you study, like, cultures, and, the, especially the cultures, right.
That I guess we would say we're less advanced,
but I don't know that that's true anymore.
Certain weather things were often signals that were taken.
Right.
And I guess the most famous one or the one that people probably most have heard, right, are from Sailors.
Which is, right, like, you're trying to figure out what the weather is coming.
That's why we have the North Star.
It's not even the North Star, right?
Red sky at night, Sailors Daylight.
Red sky in the morning, Sailors Morning, right? Red sky at night, sailors to light, red sky in the morning, sailors morning, right? The old...
I would love
if y'all let him finish what he's trying to say
because sometimes, you know what I mean, when we keep getting
cut off, it's a little bit hard to keep our trade
at that. Go ahead, Dustin.
No, I appreciate that. But, no,
no, actually,
Mighty Joe, like, that's
the one I was trying to think of and I was going to screw it up.
So I appreciated him jumping in and adding it because I was struggling to, like, remember exactly what it was.
But weather has always been something that people would take as signals and signs.
And one of the theories that I have, this is the one I want to wait for Chaney, right, which is, I will say this.
I often roll my eyes at Chaney when she tells me about the numerology stuff or the, oh, this, we're moving from, like, this into the Age of Aquarius stuff, right, like that stuff.
like this into the age of Aquarius stuff, right?
Like that stuff.
Although I'll be damned if she doesn't pinpoint some shit,
like all the time that like really adds up and lines up.
You know what I'm saying?
And so part of me feels like,
because I know we're in this like big transition from like one sign to the
other sign.
I don't remember which ones i think we're going
into aquarius right where like at the beginning of it i think we've been in i don't know because
i got it confused too i know what you're talking about but it's arguable yeah the side wheel and
uh tropical zodiac so there's two different systems so it could be arguable. There's SideReel and Tropical Zodiac, so there's two different systems, so it could be arguable.
All right, but we are in a...
I think...
Well, again, I want...
Somebody's, like, expert at this shit come up here, but, like, it does feel to me like we're in a very transition period in fact i'll add like one of the things that leads me to this
particular theory is how much of the like secret society type stuff seems to all revolve around
getting shit done before 2030 that like they're acting like they gotta fucking change
our dna and fucking blot out the sun and do a bunch of crazy like they're they're acting crazy
to try to change shit before 2030 you know what i'm saying i i see what you're saying about like how they tie like the weather to like gods and astrology and birth
charts and and astrology does matter and the numerology does get a little complicated man
it really does but like your birth charts is just basically the time you were born where were the
planets in the zodiac and there's arguments to had about you know is there 12 houses like 12 zodiac signs
like libra capricorn and all that or is there 13 is there more than 12 like it astrology gets
really complicated that's why you have they confuse you with the astrology and astronomy
you see what i'm saying like they're trying to confuse you on that stuff.
Yeah, but that's the difference between a millionaire and a billionaire, right?
Is billionaires use astrology.
That's funny.
You just stole Cheney's line, right?
So, like, that's what Cheney's always telling me.
Like, you got to pay attention to this shit, Dustin.
That's why I'm around.
You got to pay attention, Dustin.
And, like, numerology, for example. my problem is I'm really good at math.
In fact, I think I can legitimately say I'm a math genius.
I don't think that's out of bounds at all.
And I can tie just about any two numbers together using some fucking funky math to be like,
this is actually secretly tied to this and this. Right.
And so much of that, like to me just is like rando nonsense.
And the Zodiac thing though. All right.
Before we go down that path,
cause I'm going to give Chaney a couple more heads to maybe come in.
My other theory on what's going on,
potentially why we're having so much weird
weather would be that it has to do with all of the crazy shit that they're spraying into our
atmosphere do you guys see that so like outside smells different dustin. When I go outside, it smells different. It doesn't smell like
the fresh, like green, like, I don't know. I mean, it's, there's, it's a non-natural
smell. They are spraying the shit out of us. They're spraying the shit out of us. And
this, this is what bugs me. So RFK yesterday,
I was like pissed.
Because the first thing I saw was the clip
of him talking about fucking wearables.
And I'm like,
oh, fuck no.
Like, what the
fuck do you mean you want everybody
wearing something that monitors
their fucking health
vitals? Like fucking health, like, vitals.
Like, that, oh, yes, no, let's give all that fucking data over to Palantir.
Great fucking call.
Like, what the fuck, bro?
Right?
And not even to talk about the EMF radiation and all the other fucking potential negative shit.
Just, like, letting people, oh, the government should give me something
to monitor my vitals.
What in the ever-loving
beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, right?
And this is as somebody who supported RFK.
Like, ah, I was very
like, angry about that. But then
did you see the other part that dropped that was
like, cool?
That they
have been testing fucking air and water samples and
fucking people can't remember the like um exactly what they're testing on people but related to chem
trails so like we're actually getting movement on like what the fuck are we letting people spray on us, like, wholesale?
And so my other thing that, like, I think that the weather,
why we could be having all this fucking funky-ass weather,
would be that, like, we've put a lot...
Like, I know one of the things that they are,
oh, Cheney's here, fuck yeah, let's go.
She's like, goddammit, bug me all day,
now you're gonna make me come into space and explain
to you what billionaires pay attention
to astrology.
By the way, I said
that, not you. Thank you.
Anyway,
no, no. Yes.
Cheney seriously tells me
that every couple days.
I know that one of the things
that they have talked about
putting and spraying
is fucking heavy metals.
As they say,
let's reflect the light
so that we don't
warm up.
We spend a lot of time talking about the different fields right
stuff imagine like how disruptive it it would be to put a bunch of like fucking micro particle metals into our fucking atmosphere on a regular basis
right wouldn't that make wouldn't that could that possibly be an explanation for weird
weather phenomena like the one in maize's video tonight like what we're talking about like with bigger louder weirder lightning
fucking lightning rainbows and shit that makes me feel like maybe maybe the answer is we're
a bunch of fucking psychopaths who think they're god are screwing with our atmosphere and these
are some of the like effects as a result that because they don't they have no
fucking clue what they're actually doing i think that could also be a very plausible explanation
of why all of a sudden the fucking weather's weird everywhere what do you guys think
uh they're doing it they're doing it for sure i they're dumping barium aluminum and strontium in the atmosphere
it vibrates easier and they can create rain they can also drop sand if they want they can also
hit the ground and super heat liquid water and send vapor clouds in the air they can also harmonize
the atmosphere as well and they are playing god and that's the that's the biggest thing that we
have to worry about right now all the things that they can do and ai is going to teach them to do and we have
no say over it no vote we're void and null to say anything about these new experiments chimeras
crossing the dna that's what all this corona shit's about too they want to patent our dna
you know because they can't patent nature.
We're natural.
And they're already birthing unnatural people.
And it's not good, I'm telling you.
Nothing that they're doing is going to come any good at all.
Weather is a weapon now, man.
Hey, Michael.
How many times do you have to be told not to talk over the host?
Please don't do it. Thanks.
I'll kick it right back to you, Michael.
I appreciate you guys.
See, the thing is, when it's late like this, I often get frustrated and then I'll rage in the space and then everyone gets mad at me. So they're really just trying to save me from getting yelled at.
Because I'm very moody late at night.
That's exactly what I was doing.
I'm like, if he fucking kills the space because of this dude, I promise you.
He's going to have some problems.
I've been waiting for these conspiracy spaces.
Go ahead.
No, no, no.
It's all good.
And I've appreciated what Michael's been sharing.
And I'm not firing, right?
Full steam ahead.
I guess the thing that I'm worried about most is exactly what you're saying.
So, like, we also got the CRISPR, quote-unquote CRISPR announcement the other day.
Like, oh, you guys guys it's super awesome like we totally figured out a
way to change the genes in order to prevent something bad from happening this may sound
cold-hearted but i believe even disabilities are intended by god that That I don't understand
this desire of people to live forever.
And like, I'm just going to say,
maybe you were supposed to be blind
for a reason in God's plan.
And we don't understand why it wasn't meant for us
to understand why.
But like, changing and allowing people,
it's the same argument with neural link right like oh
well we right there here are some applications of it that could be super cool but it's not hard to
play it out to like oh well now i want to use the crisper technology to get rid of the down syndrome
kid and make a super baby right like that has all the traits like oh i want i want
this color hair and like this i don't know i i feel like we're starting to screw with things
at a level that is very very dangerous and it's it's it's always the second third and fourth
order effects that are super problematic with it right right? So, all right, Mike, I'll give it to you.
Then we'll go Tom, because we haven't heard of him yet,
and then Mighty Joe.
And then me and Chaney are going to get into, like,
the more woo-woo esoteric possible explanation of all this crazy weather.
I appreciate it, man. I don't think I've interrupted you once tonight, man.
I was just talking about some weather stuff.
But that's okay.
Look, man.
Weather has been manipulated into a weapon.
Like HAARP and all that.
Like, if y'all don't know what HAARP is, man, it's weather modification.
It is true.
The military's tested it.
It's there, dude.
Declassified.
Look it up the weather the reason
that the weather is changing is because maybe they're not dumping so much on us i i mean i've
seen clear skies here in tennessee man i'm just going off what i'm seeing in the skies here i live
on a mountain and i do understand how like when step outside, it doesn't smell like, you know, you're getting a good fresh air, dude.
You're not getting good air.
You're getting the toxins.
I know that smell.
But since I moved from the city to the mountain, it's totally different, dude.
It's night and day.
I'm up higher in altitude.
I'm getting good stuff
my question is like all of this comes down to one thing guys maybe the earth is reacting
to us not doing all the dumping because i've seen clear skies i don't know where y'all are
all from but i've seen clear skies what do y'all think i from, but I've seen clear skies. What do y'all think?
I'm not saying that many.
Like, I still see the blatant fucking chemtrail, non-natural bullshit in the sky every day.
And I'm, like, right on the ocean.
Okay, so you coastal, right?
You're coastal?
Yeah, I'm literally, literally like right on the beach.
All right, guys.
Here in Tennessee, man, driving down an interstate, like if I'm going from Chattanooga to Atlanta,
because that's where I'm at, like I'm south of Nashville,
like going down the interstate, there's no chemtrails.
And that's the most that we see because we have mountains and trees and stuff.
So it's not like flat land.
That's when you see it the most is when you're driving down the interstate, you'll see the chemtrails in the sky.
Man, it's been all blue skies here in the south.
We're in a heat wave.
All kinds of shit's crazy, man.
Excessive heat. this shit's crazy man all right let's excessive heat so again i it's hard to say because i also
like i i think i end up looking at the sky a lot more because jen is always looking at the sky
you know what i'm saying like so i i think as a result of that i end up paying a way more
attention than i normally would and we, like, the crazy thing is,
we have seen this fucking shit, like, all the time.
Like, I'm convinced that there was a time
where we were living out in the middle of the Nevada desert.
And we watched them experiment with some of this shit
as far as, like, seeding stuff in the sky like the right we'd watch
the planes and they'd fucking spray some shit and then they were obviously testing like what would
happen how it would disperse what it would look like the craziest one i'll never forget it they
like we saw the plane spray on one side of the valley we were in. And then it started as just what looked like maybe a little cloud on one side of the valley.
And then it literally unrolled a giant piece of fabric over the sky, complete and total sky coverage.
complete and total sky coverage.
And I remember thinking,
they're planning,
like, that's a defense mechanism
for, like, missiles and shit.
Right?
Like, they clearly were, like,
covered the entire valley
so that nothing overhead
could see what was going on
on the ground.
You know what I'm saying?
It seemed like the obvious explanation
to it. So, I don't know. what was going on on the ground you know what i'm saying it seemed like the obvious explanation
to it so i don't know i i wonder how much has actually been sprayed and i think it was michael maybe made the point or whoever it was like we have no clue that's the crazy thing like how do
we have no idea what people are spraying in the atmosphere that we have to interact with every day who gave them the jurisdiction to do that right like do they not
i mean this is something that we are it's military it's asked to be listen it's for
satellite coverage and i mean you have to think about certain people would have it near coastline
because they create lines of storms for rain for crops as well.
Monsanto's already made generations of seeds that are resistant to the aluminums and barium and strontium that they're launching into the atmosphere.
And if you think it would be the reason why California is dry, because if there's seeding clouds to go across the breadbasket of the country, it's sucking all the moisture off of that end, you know, and you get this really dry climatic, you know, ending to it while they're trying to feed rain into the central part of America.
You know, it's the breadbasket, you know, as far as the chemicals, it sucks that they're using that because they could use other forms, you know, but they do that so that they could sell the seed too. It's all, it's all got to do. It's all plays a part, you know, in
the weather modification, it's satellite coverage. There's a lot of different things. Now, how far
it's affecting us with the aluminum, that's yet to be seen yet. You know, it could account for
some Alzheimer's stuff. It could count for, you know, a whole bunch of slew
of other things as well, sicknesses. I heard Dustin mentioned earlier that they want to put
health monitor. I mean, I think we're already monitored enough. You know, they want to know
what you think. We're all telling them here what we think, you know, every day, you know,
all this stuff's being recorded as well. You know, so they're always one step ahead of us.
Remember, military industrial complex has 20 years on us. They have stuff right now that, you know, would blow our mind
if we're seeing AI now and robotics. It's only a matter of time before they start arresting people
and so on and so forth. So, you know, it's, it's, but I'm optimistic about it. I think that it's,
it's really going to, you know, convey at the end when we cut consolidation on things through digital assets and so on and so forth.
So, you know, I mean, a little bit of aerosol.
You know, we've had lead paint and drank out of the garden hose.
And, you know, I'm from the 80s and, you know, that shit, you know, I think that God protects us.
And they've been trying to kill us, but we just keep prospering because, you know, in the light of God and the world and creation,
we just keep going. I think they've been trying to do it. They just can't, you know, they can't
do it because we're protected, especially the people who believe, you know, in, in nature and
not in, in what man, I'm not afraid of what man, man can show you this just think what God can show you
look what he's created they can't create anything without what he's created all they do is break
down and alchemy everything that God's made they can't make anything without what he made
nothing they're nothing with without his creation I love that right like um It's one of my favorite Cat Williams lines ever, which is, they can't,
right? Demons cannot create anything, even blessings for their people. It's one of those
lines that just has always stuck with me. Although, we have to have, like, a conversation about informed consent,
which is if you're spraying shit in the skies
and forcing all of us to breathe it,
and it has an impact on us,
like, we have a right to have, like, some say in what's going on with that.
right to have like some say in what's going on with that.
And right.
So much of this shit has led me to the,
like these people are fucking maniacal and they have zero respect for us as
people.
Right.
we are almost not even like,
I almost said afterthoughtthought but it's not even
afterthought with just no consideration given and i think that they think we're so
cut or just like so weak at this point that like they could do whatever the
they want like what are we gonna do about it they've got us so scared like i don't know everybody is so frightened of all the stuff
that like they're feeding us on these like screens and it's just like fear fear fear fear fear fear
fear fear fear oh everybody's bad oh here's all the every terrible thing that's happening in the
world is going to be fed into like you're actually experiencing yourself all the time and it's like you know what but when you go outside do any of us really like
experience like they created in these like small pockets but we're all subjected to like the trauma
of it which is fucking crazy um all right i'm gonna go mighty joe and then adam i'm gonna
ask you guys to keep it brief because i want to dive into it that was that was so fucking real
though and that's such a good all right so i kind of wanted to talk about two things real quick
first thing would be uh and the second thing is you got leading to astrology which you want to
talk to her about so first thing would be about like kind of mythological animals and experiences with
that because we were talking about crazy lightning and stuff and like weather and uh i believe like
after years and years of having this experience in nature that i might have seen a thunderbird
to a pair of them uh out in the berkshire mountains in like western massachusetts i was on like a hike
and these two birds followed me,
but they were far,
far,
far bigger than any other bird I'd ever seen at that point in my life.
But I was young.
I was kind of inexperienced as far as nature goes.
Now that I'm older,
I mean,
I've seen bald eagles up close.
These things were bigger than that.
Like their wingspans were bigger than that.
They were fucking massive birds.
And they like like like flew through
trees and just kind of circled around and hovered around and landed and kind of hopped along this
like multi-mile hike that i was walking and it was a crazy experience you know just to witness
these animals and i was kind of like in shock and awe at them and like kept stopping and like
just looking at them and then they'd fly on.
And like, we were kind of like following each other.
Uh, but years and years later, like I,
the only thing I could compare them to was the California condor,
but then you couldn't find those on the East coast.
Like, so it was, it was that big though.
It was massive, massive, massive bird.
So just mythological animal kind kind of wild sighting,
something that was way too big and shouldn't have been there in that particular area. I just wanted to throw that out there because we were doing the conspiracy theory thing.
And then on the Zodiac, you know, you have Western astrology,
which is based off of one kind of type of understanding.
And then you have like Indian astrology, which works on a different type of understanding.
And within that, the English word for hour comes from hora,
which is something that depends on like what sign is on the horizon line
at any given moment, you know?
So it's like a way to tell time through like the stars
and a way to tell time through the stars and a way to tell time through the zodiac.
It's an ancient watch, an ancient stopwatch.
And people could create birth charts for people that didn't exist yet.
And the cult of the Magi, the people that were seeking Jesus, that was the idea.
They had to basically cast a chart for a person that wasn't born yet.
And they were like, if a person is born in this time, in this place,
that would be a good soul or a great soul.
And then they used to do that back in the day, not just with Jesus,
but with a lot of different prophets and a lot of different great people
over history.
Like, there was astrologers that went and found them.
You know, so I'll just leave it with that.
Just a little fun twist of stuff. Love it. So I'll just leave it with that. Just a little fun twist of stuff.
Love it.
So I'm going to start this with
that
maybe the thing that surprised me the most
about the conspiracy
journey we've all been on
together is
how much I've come to believe
that everything about NASA
and space is total and complete horseshit
like i i legitimately like i was one i i remember one of the first conspiracy spaces i was like
we definitely landed on the moon and then we dove into it and i was like holy
we definitely did not land like the story about how we landed on the moon is so fucking ridiculous on its face, it hurts.
But it's not just horse shit, Dust, right?
It's actually evil.
And when you really start looking into it, it's demonic.
In Maze or Chaney, if somebody could play a video later in the space, I actually have a specific video on this.
Right, so I'm prefacing this
with like the idea that space is a vacuum and that like just the whole thing makes zero
fucking sense at all like zero sense so what is it then right so like if we're not like peering out and the like twinkles in the sky
aren't like far away planets somehow which also i just as you start to like go back and re-evaluate
that shit you're like what how did they convince me that like well planets and stars look the same in the sky, but one may twinkle a little bit more than the other one.
You're like, oh yeah, okay, fuck, my teacher told me that, it must be true type of shit, you know what I'm saying?
So, I've come wholly convinced that like, whatever's in the sky is fucking not as it's told at all or even close.
That doesn't mean I know what it is.
Like, I'm not trying to say, like,
oh, I have the secret answer of what actually is happening in the skies above us.
Like, fuck, I have no fucking clue.
Shit is a total mystery.
I know what it's not, and it's not what they told me.
Exactly.
And I can only build from there.
So astrology, here's what's weird to me about it.
And I'm going to just lay out the craziest of all the things
that have been running around my head the last couple of days
or the last couple of weeks.
So Cheney keeps telling me about like what astrology is telling us and it's
all like fucking super awesome like we're going from a time of like
deception into a time of wisdom and abundance and wealth and fucking awesome
sauce I'm like oh fuck yeah I like the sounds of that like let's ooh tell me more about that Chaney
and then I was like
tying all the conspiracies together
in this crazy brain of mine
where I'm like alright so
no way the Egyptians built
the pyramids in fact
I'm pretty sure the pyramids
are a permanent fixture
right like came with the terrain.
And I started to think about video games.
I'm like, maybe what we're dealing with in astrology
is that we're seeing a shift from, like,
we were in a period where the game was, like,
fucking very deceptive-oriented.
And to make it like hunger game style
right we have a new game maker and like this new game maker coming in like you know he's not quite
as fucking sadistic and fucking batshit crazy as the last one and so like we're gonna have like a
like we're gonna see some different things what eyes and like this would also explain the like
abundance of mythical creatures that seem to be popping like people seem to like people are like
pictures of animals like oh rare sighting of a like that is not a real animal
no way where where did that thing fucking oh we just
undiscovered species or right you just never happened to read about this particular 800 pound
fucking super beast that's fucking running around type stuff so could it be that like the astrology
stuff cheney is that like we're seeing a shift in whatever the game we're supposed to play on this particular Terra is and and what are we actually like doing right now?
So I'm actually in the mood to talk about it for once. I'm not just gonna shut you down like I usually do.
Well, the reason I always bring it up is because they say that millionaires don't believe in astrology, but all the billionaires do.
because they say that millionaires don't believe in astrology, but all the billionaires do.
And I think it was Joe maybe in here that was just talking about the Zoroastrians.
So these are the Magi or like the three kings or the wise men.
And it wasn't just Jesus that they knew where and when he was going to be born by the stars.
was going to be born by the stars. So some people theorize that those stars, like maybe
whatever ancient things kind of keep some secrets from us with those stars. And each one of the
Titans would be one of the constellations. And then you see like how we have the story of like Clash of the Titans. So you see Perseid go through each one of these constellations.
You watch him battle scorpions before he gets to Ophiuchus or Medusa.
And so you kind of see these things happen over and over again through different cultures.
They're just called different things.
So even in one horoscope might be representative of a crab.
The other horoscope calls it a turtle.
And then when you look at how similar these creatures are, this hard shell on the outside, this soft on the inside, like when you start looking at the characteristics of these things, a lot of the times they're very similar across the board.
And so there is thoughts that it wasn't just our birth date.
That's part of the thing that kind of broke us from our whole story is that our parents
used to care about our conception date.
And the day that we were born, if we lived in this perfect place that every woman could just go to full term, then they would know exactly what day that from
conception, what day you would be born. And this was a big, huge thing in all cultures before
where you almost got fated with certain things. But they say like the fates have been dropped
out of our current timeline.
Like we've lost a lot of religions because you were saying fear. Fear is the number one thing
that if you have nothing to be scared of with where your faith is, it really shouldn't bother
you so much of having a conversation with people with different faiths. But what you're finding is
so many people have headline news faith where like the same way like their education with arguing COVID is just whatever Anderson Cooper gave them that one headline.
And that's how so many people are with their faith now.
They have one headline, but they're not going any deeper.
So it feels really good to have these grifts and say these certain things.
But when you cut right below the surface, that person,
like you were saying, like, they're not really willing to die for their faith. But there are
people that are. And it's of all ilks. And it's, I think that, yeah, I think everybody's kind of
has a story. And they were born with that story and kind of an omnipotent way because your story needs to be perfected to fit my story and everybody else's story, in my opinion, to be like the perfect, like God wins timeline, like the Iron Man timeline.
of you, meeting the best version of me. And like, I think we were kind of like,
picked by God with our little armor and our little injuries and our little traumas
to go through those things and find the words so that we can like kind of help heal each other a
little bit. So I don't know. It's a whole. So, so, so steer it back though. Yeah what constellation are we moving out of and like right what explain to me
what transition we're currently in well because each one of the things like all of it's happening
at once so the further out the planets are from us the longer they're in each one of these signs
so in just the past little bit of time like like even since we've been friends, some of those very far out planets that have never changed position in our lifetimes have moved into new signs.
people that are like awesome at this i'm not awesome with like what's where but i think like
uh neptune went into cancer or one of the you know like jupiter went into cancer for the first time
there's people that will know better than me but i know one just happened in the last week and i
can't remember what one it was it's like a clock i look at it almost like a a cipher like one of those codexes that it's like somebody's turning all
i gotta jump in play here a little bit so so like in uh so i studied a little bit of jyotish and i'm
by no means great at it um but jyotish is like you know vedic uh astrology and uh and so just
just for fun jyoti is the light of consciousness.
It comes from Ishtar, the god that lives in the hearts of all.
So it's the light of the stars, the light of consciousness.
It's kind of like a story told, if you will.
But the Horas, it's based off of what's going on in the certain planets that reign.
And it's all the visible bodies.
So they have the farthest planet is Saturn that they really deal with. Uh, but the Saturn
return, like you said, uh, if you were watching it from the sky for Saturn to come back around
to the same exact place it was in the sky, when you were born, it would take 29 years,
you know, whereas the moon will whip around a million times you know and all these
other things whip around all over the place and all these other stars and constellations they're
all whipping around this in the north and south node they calculate all this type of crap and
they look at all these different types of directions and these different things but it
creates pictures it creates snapshots of the universe where it was in a time and place and
when you look back to certain
spiritual writings, they specifically
reference stars being in a certain
place in the sky and things like that. But that
is how you know that it did
happen or there's your
historical reference. There's your footnote.
Like, if I can tell people where
the stars were in the sky, even 10,000
years from now, people can figure out when I
said it. Because it is as accurate as a stopwatch or a clock like our friend was saying
all right so i'm that makes sense to me right the further away the slower it moves
and so like the the bigger epochs if you will obviously it makes sense would like be based around the movement of those
particular things all right so i'm i'm i'm tracking with that so and and maybe
maybe this is i don't know how exactly to put this but for whatever reason every time for decades
For whatever reason, every time for decades I looked up to the sky, for whatever reason, I was always looking right at Orion.
Like, almost, like, to the point that, like, I used to, like, it used to freak me out.
Because I'd be like, literally, every, how is it that every time I fucking look up, it's the same exact constellation.
And then I remember this was, I guess this is when we were, this must've been 2021, 2020, 2021.
The sky started to look dramatically different when I'd look at it.
And I don't do as much here because
i'm not the cool thing about living in the middle of the desert is when you look up it's a
dramatically different sky than you see if you're around any light pollution at all and so i right
it's not as cool to look up now because like i don't have all the detail that i got to see when
i was out in the desert where i was like looking up a lot more than I usually would but I've noticed that like when I look up
I'm not I I don't even recognize whatever it is I'm looking at and I I don't know if that's
conditioning because every time I looked up for like I'm not even joking decades I'd like
challenge myself like can I look up and maybe for once I won't be looking right at Orion?
And I couldn't do it.
Every time I looked up, I just happened to be facing that direction at that moment to look at that particular freaking constellation.
It used to really annoy me.
Because I'd be like, I'm going to figure out how to do this.
You know what I'm saying?
It can't be that.
I should be able to randomize it in a way to see something else for once but no not allowed to do it so it makes sense to me that
something has changed because like when i look up it doesn't look like the same sky
if it feels like the sky right i'm not recognizing again, I don't know if it's conditioning or that the sky has actually changed.
And I don't trust any of the answers.
So I'm actually open to this idea of some of the more woo-woo, esoteric, sky magic stuff.
You know what I'm saying?
I'd give an easy answer first.
It would be that you were probably
taught that like find orion's belt because it's the easiest thing it's three close together stars
and then they showed you where the big dipper little dipper is and then like most people learned
i'll look at the stars through that like lens but dude i'm not talking like I look up at the sky. I'm talking like when I looked up, I was exactly on.
I can identify the other constellations.
But whenever I looked up, it was boom, right at Orion.
And Orion's sword fighting the Taurus.
Fighting the bull.
Every time.
I literally couldn't shake it.
I would do things like, all right, I'm going to close my eyes.
I'm going to turn around in circles.
And then I'm going to look up.
And be like, God, it got me again.
How is that even possible?
I mean, that's the one I always see first, too.
So if that's not normal, I didn't know it wasn't normal.
I always see that first myself when I'm looking.
Probably. Aren't the pyramids lined up with them? normal I like always see that first myself when I'm looking probably aren't
the pyramids lined up with them you know I think a lot of this goes back to the
pyramids you guys started with the pyramids yeah you know I don't think
they were just there I do believe there was quite a few people that moved those
blocks somehow some way you know the the people are always wrapped in chains
moving the blocks you know that's what we're doing now, too, isn't it?
We do the same thing every time.
We move those things.
Remember, there's only a masquerade, really.
If you haven't seen anything that's not generated by AI, I wouldn't be scared of the boogeyman, first of all.
I think it's always been more powerful minds, overcoming smaller minds.
And really, all we have is a case of bad
shepherds. Now we do the same thing here in the space. If we don't like this click or that click,
we move off and we start our own click, you know, and I think that that's the only thing that's
really happened over the years. I mean, look at man, you know, we get impetuous boys and they
run off and they make their own kingdom, you know, by any means
necessary. And now, you know, we have these bad shepherds who lead us down bad roads and, you know,
make bad choices. And we have, you know, lesser minds who follow along and they don't know any
better and they have bad shepherds. So, you know, I think that that really is the case. Now the,
the moon and the stars in the sky, God gave them to us to look at for seasons and crops and to know that we were safe.
So, you know, just heed that.
I think that's the best thing.
Well, it feels like if there's a lost art or science, dude, the sky and interpreting what the sky is doing is definitely one of the...
There's no doubt that that's one of those lost magics.
Well, my grandfather used to give lore from Indian lore.
I got the proof, too, in the paper.
He's where we lived.
He died under an apple tree with his favorite mule named Blue.
He was a farmer.
And, yeah, i have one of his
poem books it's really old too and uh yeah he used to give lore off of it like he knew when it was
going to rain like we used to be able to predict the weather and you know rain dances and things
like that the indians used to do here mimicked after the birds you know the vanishing prairie
and you know uh my great-grandfather married a delaware indian squall and you know, the vanishing prairie. And, you know, my great grandfather married a Delaware
Indian squall. And, you know, they used to do wonderful things. They knew times to do things
and times not to. And they really, you know, respected the land. So it is an art, you know,
I think it is. And I think, you know, if we pray for anything hard enough, you got to remember
we're creating all this stuff, the future, you know,
all the things that we've created.
And if we can create,
how can we ever deny a creator?
And I think that,
you know,
so real quick,
just remind me,
cause I'm going to hit the hands cause I don't want to shift topics before I let the hands go,
but I want to come back to the AI discussion about this stuff.
Cause I've,
I've had some like really trippy
thoughts about that lately that i think would lead to a very fascinating conversation so i'm
gonna go dr strange and i'm gonna go soul and then cheney and then i'm gonna break your brains with
some of my weirder thoughts about ai hi dustin maze j Jennifer. I love this place. I really appreciate you folks holding these
topics. I had done a master's in political psychology a while back ago, and I want to go
back to something you said earlier about fear. You know, the most classic way that governments
around the world use to take away their people's freedom to think and decipher for themselves is through manufactured hate and fear.
Once fear and hate takes root, you stop thinking and you just start reacting.
And when that happens, that's when you become somebody else's weapon.
And sadly enough, I see it over and over and over.
Make no mistake, there are elements, entities that are after subverting the U.S. Constitution.
Because what stands between them having total control over all of us is the U.S. Constitution.
Your freedom of speech, your freedom to protest,
elections by the people, First Amendment, Second Amendment, all of that. And we've seen them,
these entities encroaching over it for the past 20 years. If you recall, when they issued the
Patriot Act, it was supposed to be for terrorists. But long afterwards, we found out that
they were using it to surveil Americans, and they use it against J6ers. So this is the way the game
is played. Years ago, I had a high school teacher who was just amazing. And one of the most important lessons I learned from him is to listen to the
other side, even when I don't like the other side, or I even have hate for the other side.
I always attempt to go listen to the side because when I do that, it empowers me. It protects me from being propagandized, from being somebody else's bitch, pardon my slang.
So I urge everybody to ensure that nobody is injecting or manufacturing fear and hate.
And check out for yourself.
If somebody is saying horrible things about trump you know well go
because years ago if you recall in the 2016 i got dr shane i'm gonna slow you down just a little bit
like it's great points but i don't want to dive into like current day politics because like i'm
enjoying having a more esoteric right conversation and like I get what you're saying, because I'll give you an example.
I was in the Mike Mac space earlier, and I got into a debate with somebody.
I think they were very surprised that this was coming from me, who seemed really worried
about a bunch of the stuff that I see on the news.
I asked him, how many people do you think are actually burning American flags in the United States in the last couple of years? He said
hundreds of thousands. I was like, bro, there's zero, right? You have seen every time they burn
a flag, you've seen it because it gets that emotional reaction from you. But if you think 100,000 people are burning the U.S. flag,
A, one of the funniest things about doing a lot of protests,
you know how many times I've watched them fail to light the American flag on fire
because they're all bought from China,
and they have the built-in fire retardation?
And they literally are like, why is it not? Right? Like, literally,
like these things are manufactured away. It's actually really hard to light them on fire,
which is often very, very funny to witness and gives people time to like disrupt what they're
doing. But all of that, he just listed off like thing after thing. Oh, the protesters blocking
the streets. I'm like, have you ever,
have you ever been the person that got blocked by a protester? Like, no. And, and it, and yet
we're inundated with this fear of like, because the screen shows it to us over and over and over
and over again. And I'm not saying that it's not real, right?
I'm not saying that they don't pick spots,
but that trauma is shared and that, right,
collectively with all of us to like,
get us to accept really bad things.
I was like, bro, like you're talking about like,
we must take out all these people who are seditious
and like, who are subverting our country
and my my the the thing for me bye maize we love you thank you always great to have maize in the
spaces um thanks guys we gotta do more of these but i did um enjoy it and i hate that i'm gonna
miss the AI part,
but I think my melatonin is going to kick in.
And next thing you know,
I'm going to be snoring on the stupid on stage.
And I don't even think you can mute me.
Can you know that word happened?
But anyway,
but yeah,
much love guys.
And are you going to do this again soon,
Dustin?
Yeah,
we'll definitely do one soon.
And you need to come on 10 for an-N Tokens and chill with us.
Oh, hell yeah. We'll get that set up
for sure. Good night, guys. Enjoy
the AI part. I'm jelly, but
I'm glad it's recorded. I'll talk
to you guys tomorrow.
And how am I to steer this back
to the more esoteric
stuff?
I believe
the fear disrupts one of our great magics, which is manifestation.
So like, right, the reason that we're just inundated is that especially when we connect with others and then we have shared intent, our ability to manifest reality is undeniable, in my opinion.
Right. Like that. That's where the.
But when we're disrupted, when we're in a state of fear or anxiety,
all of that goes out the window.
And now we're much more controllable because we're not utilizing the best of
like our more esoteric powers. Right.
And then also like it just makes us very much controllable from a lot of different angles.
But the part I'm trying to get at, that's the kind of stuff that's hidden from us.
And what it's being replaced with makes us feel like shit all the time.
It makes us feel like, oh, my my god i'm fucking under attack like if i go out right like
i am i am literally the fucking mexicans are about to fucking murder me in the street or
you really see this with like the the number of times i see videos from 10 years ago of black
people beating up white people in order to stir up like racial fears is something
else that i think is worth paying attention to that like i think that shit is stoked very
purposely to like cause division i'm not saying it doesn't happen but i'm saying we're it's over
represented in our reality when we spend so much of our reality staring at these little fucking screens.
And that's causing us to react to what our environment is in ways that don't make sense for what our actual environment is.
Did all that make sense or was I just like, I don't know what happened.
You were completely on point.
I mean, everything you said, you articulated what I wanted to say even better.
And I fully agree with you.
I lost my train of thought, but yeah, I didn't want to get into current politics either.
But I do.
The only thing I would say is that I've learned that whenever I've got, whenever an issue comes up,
I actually try to triangulate and look at multiple sides.
And I go firsthand and identify somebody who is from the opposing side and get his perspective.
Because that allows me to really, it empowers me.
It protects me from being propagandized.
being propagandized it protects me from so many things and lastly wait wait wait wait okay i just
It protects me from so many things.
And lastly.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
listen i'm not being contrarian on purpose but i've been actually dying to challenge somebody
on this point specifically so like bear with me i promise i'm not like picking on you on
purpose i think what you just laid out there though is a hundred percent part of the fucking style. Right? The idea that there's two sides
and that, like,
that there is definitively
one side that we could go look at
and another side that we could go look at
and then be able to try.
Like, I've,
and I've tuned out,
like, I don't watch any fucking television
at all, like, zero.
Zero.
And I've largely been out of spaces and social media for the last few months.
So like when I come out of these and come back,
I've always got like that fresh perspective, which is always super helpful.
But the idea that there's two sides is this made up.
Like I actually think it's critical to the PSYOP because what they've done is they've trained us to be like, oh, you know what?
I'm going to pay attention to what one side says and then the other side.
And then that's going to allow me to land in the middle.
But they're both fucking completely made up fake sides.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, I think it's the same interjection as this whole conversation is the home.
They can't get it.
You know, we can build our own homes.
And like you said, they're distorting us in the fashion of that.
We need this and we need that.
And we have insurance and all this clutter.
It's all these micro laws.
It's all the things. It's the sneeds that we need this and need that and we have insurance and all this clutter it's all these micro laws it's all
the things it's the sneeds that we need this and it's need that you know the Lorax I mean and you
know we could go out and build our own homes and we can you know we used to do that but they don't
want us doing that they want us trapped into mortgage and the big home that you can't build
that has all the latest goodies you know that's how castles got built. You know, men went off with their sons
and, you know, created communities that built castles
so that nobody could get in.
I mean, this is the impetuous nature of men
that they're trying to keep down.
I don't know why I'm getting thumbs down for that,
but I mean, you know, I mean,
it's the demasculinity of men right now,
you know, that we're having problem with
that they keep trying to keep
us down from doing the things that we want by buying into their system.
I mean, that's all it is.
I mean, we can all go off this grid anytime we want.
And I like to hear Dustin, I disconnect all the time too.
Matter of fact, I'm actually out on that disconnect right now and connecting with you
guys over, you know, satellite.
And that's one of the greatest things that we have that we can all talk to each other all across the world to see how we feel.
You know, I mean, and some people have it a lot worse than we do in America.
We take that for granted a lot too. You know, it ain't that bad yet. You know,
and our financial institutions have gotten us to where we're at as well. Them changing,
it only means that the new guard wants to take control of it and they also want to see everything that leads right into the ai that's the next big you know uh blemish on our screen
right now is this this machine that's you know it could be non-biased and truthful in the middle but
it also can be prying and very uh subjective and also guiding our children in different directions
too and that's one of the biggest things right now that we could talk about
is how much we let this thing into our children's life
or any of this stuff, YouTube or anything,
because I don't let my kids do it.
I didn't give them any shots.
You know, I have totally rejected everything.
I had major problems with the birth of my second son,
and I've seen exactly what this system is doing.
And you know what?
Doctors visits are more like social services visits.
And, you know, we have a very guiding system here that's trying to indoctrinate people into this, you know, next transformation of whatever chemical cocktail, you know, that they're going to serve us next.
And, you know, we're going in the wrong direction I mean we really have crazy problems right now
You know with AI because AI is gonna show me and things that he would never thought of it's gonna connect
Scientific research is from this spectrum in that spectrum
It's gonna add them together and they're gonna start to figure out more things about the fabric of this reality
And what they're you know what they're actually capable of.
You know, you've heard them talk about releasing a God.
I mean, this is opening Pandora's box.
Like, we're staring into it right now.
And if we can't see that, we are so naive.
But I'm going to cut you off on the AI discussion because we're going to do that next.
Let's go to Sol.
Dustin, may I speak for 20 more seconds?
It's good to see you, AIM.
But Sol, go ahead and jump in here.
What are your thoughts?
Thanks.
Thanks, Dustin.
I appreciate it for sure, Jennifer Chaney.
I just really quick wanted to, what she was saying, it's Pluto that just entered Aquarius.
So you've got to think about it like we're literally healing the collective
subconscious right now. We just came out of the underworld. And I literally, I do a lot of
studying on this and, you know, goddess civilizations back in the day, they, you know,
there wasn't just the patriarchy, right? And this is where we have a lot of these mounds and sacred sites that were built and everything.
And, you know, we're really the feminine in all because whether you're a man or a woman,
you have both masculine and feminine energies within you.
You know, we're really, we're balancing that within all of us.
A lot of us are really raising with the planet in our octaves. We're going up in frequency,
right? A lot of us are having spontaneous kundalini activations. I don't want to discredit
that at all. That's why this esoteric knowledge is coming back.
It's really pretty profound.
You know, some of us are really recognizing that we've always been the black sheep because we're here to break these ancestral curses and, you know, this generational trauma, right?
So we're really these wizards here that, you know, can transmute chaos into stillness.
And that's why, Dustin, what you were saying about the two parties being part of the PSYOP, you're so fucking spot on.
Absolutely.
Because that's the narrative, right?
That there's only two parties to pick from.
Fuck the two parties.
You know what I'm saying? And because everything that they say is so polarized and inflammatory and it's completely made up.
So, yeah, I think that now with us going into the Kali Yuga, you know, and really the age of Aquarius, like, you know, back in the 60s, it was the dawning of the age of the Aquarius.
Well, Pluto is finally in Aquarius.
So like I was saying, we've been healing the collective subconscious.
Like so many of us during COVID literally were given the space and the time to do what you were talking about, to like detox from the shit that was toxic in our life and create sacred space to really like dive into our wounds and start
realizing where we were maybe the problems in our lives.
And yeah, I know that I've been doing that and I was led home and, you know, just kind
of integrating a lot of the stuff that I've learned to help my family.
And, you know, my daughter's seven and, yeah, being a parent totally changes everything.
So you have to be in alignment right now.
And in every way that you are not, your life is going to continue to point it out to you.
That's literally just like that's what's going on with, you know, everything, all of the conjunctions astrologically and everything.
Like literally that's what and I hate to quote the psyop, but, you know, dark to light.
All of the stuff that was being done in the shadows is being brought to the surface.
surface. So it's really interesting. A lot of us were really remembering who the fuck we are.
So it's really interesting.
It's kind of cool. I really think that the Marvel Universe does a really good job of kind of
articulating a lot of the stuff that like Dolores Cannon talks about in her convoluted universe books and shit um so like
uh I just watched the new Wolverine and Deadpool right and I thought that that um you know it was
pretty great in uh showing you know soul family and you know the multiple you know multiverse
essentially all the different parallel selves that you have. And, um, anyway,
like in Thor, we're in the convergence of all of these timelines, right? Where we can literally
pull from parallel lives where, you know, or past lives, however you want to think about it,
but time is not linear. Um, and you know, it's just, it's a really cool time to be alive. And
I think, like I said, uh, with all of us having these spontaneous kundalini activations and awakenings, truth is literally like authentic.
Authenticity is the strongest frequency.
So truth is something that you resonate with.
It's something you feel.
That's how you can just tell when somebody's fucking lying to you.
You just tell when somebody's telling you a story to manipulate you. You know, I've always been an empathic person. And unfortunately, I was in a lot
of toxic, you know, narcissistic relationships. And, you know, I've really had to hone my emotional
intelligence. But going forward, you're going to need both your, you know, your logic, your
intelligence and your emotional intelligence to get by in this world.
And that just is what it is. So, you know, Mother Nature is going to keep letting us know what we need to be doing.
So what a time to be aligned. Right. Anyway, thanks for letting me speak.
And I can't wait to talk about AI. I've got some crazy experiences too.
So hopefully I can continue to add to the conversation.
Dustin, I love your work.
I'm a fan.
So thanks for the follow back.
And yeah, appreciate it.
No, so that was definitely the most positive spin on the COVID craziness that I've heard.
I've heard and I like it.
And I like it.
Like I like that there is finding benefit.
I know lots of people connected with their kids in a way that ended up being really important because the school, right?
The kids weren't going to school.
I was like, I can't tell you how my parents were like, holy shit.
I found out what the kids were actually consuming in school.
It was petri-like.
I was so aghast.
Because I had to look at it.
It disrupted the loop that we were stuck in.
On the PSYOP thing,
I guess,
actually, one of the coolest things I've
seen on social media
a long time a couple days ago Elon
posted tell something
Grok that's like an uncomfortable
truth
because we're
going to rewrite history with Grok
which is super terrifying right
but the responses were really funny
and dude i could have
gone all day i think i probably did like 40 of them one of them was like voting is the great
like the deception that voting makes us responsible for the corruption and crimes of our government
is like one of the most insanely manipulative things ever.
Like somehow your vote, which really doesn't like that.
Somehow you're responsible for all the evil shit our government is doing because you vote is like one of those things that like has always,
that was one of the ones that like really opened up my way of thinking about
like how awful some of the manipulation control is because guilt is another one of those very
like we talk about fear and hate but guilt is a massively powerful emotion to manipulate people
with right if you can make somebody feel guilty that's that's something that that often will drive people to try to change whatever it is.
Me, if I feel guilty about something, the likelihood that that's going to lead me to some kind of behavioral change might even be more than fear.
But Dustin, just to throw it back at you, this is one of the things concerned Sol Nishin had.
Do you think you have the capacity to commit evil? The what now? just to throw it back at you this is one of the things concerns soul nations had is like
do you think you have the capacity to commit evil the what now do you think you have the capacity to do evil oh yeah that's that's what that's the self-reflection then there's no guilt there it's
just that as long as you're aware that you have the capacity to do evil when you vote you have
the capacity to understand that who you vote you have the capacity to
understand that who you were voting for and perhaps the policies that they endorse that
you have control over that right but what i'm saying is you actually don't have any
control over that sure you do you all right if no i mean you can you can you can vote i mean we just
said we did it i mean you can vote someone out And if they don't live up to the policies of which you say you endorse them for, then you have the ability to convince others that perhaps that they should be out of, removed from office.
I understand your skepticism. casting a vote has any fucking impact at all on the latest 8 000 page multi-trillion dollar
spending bill like i've got a bridge to sell you bro so then have you ever talked to one of your
representatives do you know who i am well i don't mean that in like right like the most arrogant possible way but like i'm not somebody
who's just like man i probably have on cell phone close to five dozen members of congress in the
senate so then what did they say tell you that they're fucking retards they have no
fucking clue what they're doing
so then why don't you run because i don't want to be part right like i also don't want to be a
retard who has to in order to win pretend like i know what's actually happening in order to like
win votes and then i have to sign off on a bunch of shit that I have zero understanding at all
what's actually happening because to be honest, it's the kind of bills that they pass now
are beyond any single human intellect.
But these people are not like the greatest intellects.
They're the best at raising money from donors. They are not the most visionary, brilliant people who end up in office at all.
It's not even close.
And so the idea that my vote for one of 435, what's probably 800,000 now per congressional
district, that my vote, one of 800,000, per congressional district that like my vote,
one of 800,000 is then going to have an it right.
Like that person is going to go be one of the 435. And that somehow is going to change the policy and direction of like my
immediate reality is one of those, all of politics, man,
every solution they give us is a a time trap which is like oh you want
you want to like make some changes go ahead and listen i was naive and like believed that
and so i did things like okay well i'll start movement. We won the first big election. We won 87 seats in Congress
that year, like 87 house seats with the Tea Party movement. And I had more control over the policy
direction of the Tea Party than anybody. Like really, like there are other more public figures,
but I was the one who was writing all the emails. I was the one who was going district to district. And even on the most simple things, you could not win unless it was
backed by money and donors and Wall Street or some other big special interest group, right?
The idea that our vote is enough for us to change things. And if we don't like it,
then we just vote some other way. Also ignores the fact that the options that were being given,
like the people that you have the option to vote for, none of them have the ability to affect the
change that you would, that your vote or that you're trying to create in the world.
And I've had some wins. We've stopped a lot of really bad, like I've been better at stopping
bad legislation, but I was the primary author of the USPS Reform Act that saved, like we closed a
bunch of redundant offices, streamlined a bunch of
postal service stuff, and saved the taxpayers, like, more than a billion dollars a year.
So I've had some wins, right? It's not that you can't accomplish anything through politics,
but the idea that we are somehow responsible for the fucking $37 trillion in debt and war and everything else because we vote, quote
unquote, voted for it.
None of us had any informed consent over what we were signing up for when we sent these
people.
And the representatives, they can't tell you either.
They don't know.
And that's what I was getting at with that whole part of it.
Dude, it's a psyop.
Probably the most insidious psyop that there is is that we're the ones to blame because we voted for it.
It's crazy.
So Dustin, what you're saying is that it's become a game of money.
Without money, you can't win. And in order to get money, you have to sell yourself to special interest groups who will basically make you do stuff that's not the will of the people.
It's essentially for the special interest group.
I did want to say one more thing.
Real quick, I just want to say it because it's worse than that.
Because we have one.
I've helped more than a hundred people
win office and the thing is even when we win once they get there the system is further designed
to force them at the beginning to start making little compromises that by the end of it they
no longer even know what they got there, like the, what they were
trying to do in the first place. And it starts with like committee assignments and how you raise
up like the ranks and whether or not you want to be like, if you have a pet issue in order to like
advance that pet issue, you need to compromise, or you need to talk to this lobbyist who like,
then we'll help you build it's all this
like fucking craziness like built in like step after step after step and the system is literally
designed that you are we're supposed to feel like we can send somebody and they'll have a difference
and then somehow it just never seems to actually make you realize and and dustin when did the tea
party movement when do you think it got crushed?
Like what was it that crushed it?
It was infiltrated and co-opted.
And I think that the big losing moment was two parts.
Number one, the Koch brothers injected a shit ton of money,
not into the real groups, right?
But they elevated a couple of narcissistic
personalities who got the big checks and got all of the media attention. And then those people,
just their, it's not like they knew that they were the ops, but they were elevated specifically
because they had characteristics that were identified that would ultimately break up the movement.
And then all other kinds of media psyops, like the accusing us of being racist, which ends up
becoming somewhat self-fulfilling. But really, there were three planks of the Tea Party platform,
like what we first ran on, which was personal responsibility, fiscal sanity,
the Constitution was what they were supposed to be.
But they managed to change the Constitution to free trade,
which was like what the Kochs injected into the baseline.
But what they actually meant by free trade was deregulation in a way that allowed for, that stopped the checks and balances and
encouraged regulatory capture so that the regulators came from the exact same companies
that they were supposed to be regulating. And Dustin, to follow up, I just was in DC too
talking to Stephen Moore. They're all Heritage Foundation, all free traders, and they're against the tariffs.
But the tariffs have actually β which should benefit the American blue-collar workforce.
And Besson is one who's been talking about this, is the destruction of the middle class, which seems to be the best bulwark against tyranny.
But it's been just decimated by globalization and these free trade policies.
So the idea is how do you get capital back
into the United States of America?
I'm going to stop us there.
We can do this one during the day.
Sorry.
I'm not stressing it because
it's a topic I'm very passionate
about, obviously.
Because this is the stuff
that
we are trained that when we have a problem, these are the things we're supposed to do to fix it.
But almost all of those things lead us into some kind of trap.
A trap for our time, a trap for our energy, a trap for our good intent.
Right?
And utilizes it or waste it so that the the negative system could continue
unchallenged because we've all been trained to like go after problems in a way that they know
we can't be productive in so but i do want to stop it before we like get it because economic policy
it's one of my big jams i like really enjoy talking about but i do want to get into that
because i'm i'm gonna lay i'm i'm in one of those moves where i actually don't mind like of my big jams I would like really enjoy talking about but I do want to get into that because
I'm I'm gonna lay I'm in one of those moves where I actually don't mind like laying out some of the
crazy shit I think about sometimes late at night before I go to bed and on AI I think people are
gonna like really trip out about it I think it's gonna be a really interesting convo so we'll get
there in just a sec all right I'm gonna go aim and then Nikki, and then I'll lay out the crazy AI stuff.
Hey, yep, out here at the homestead. I don't know where I'm at. But anyway, How are we supposed to navigate, you know, these treacherous, you know, kind of waters?
You know, they're constantly changing this and that and whatever. But we're, we as American people, as American citizens, we're not changing our ways.
We live our lives.
We're working our asses off.
We're paying our taxes.
We're not changing, right?
So, how are we supposed to, you know, who are we, you know, supposed to listen to?
From one day to the next, or one moment to the next, right? right you'll have your ideas and
all this but we know as working people
what we know
I mean it's plain and
simple and like
I have a homestead I have a farm I am basically pretty much poor our thing out here right so you know like we i love everything everybody's saying but
i'm living it every day every day
every day i wake up and I do my chores, do my thing.
You know, get on it.
Get on the...
You know, I'm learning more on, you know, economics, all this kind of thing.
I'm just on it every day, every day, every day.
So I've got a couple ideas on this and it's a great question a
if you're on your homestead you are probably richer than most people because like you're
actually attached to like what you're living and what you're doing i know you're right like your
story my thought on it is this like my advice sorry no but my my advice for like who do we listen to
i think the answer is to like part of the reason that we feel so anxious and confused and afraid
and guilty is because we're inundated like we are being hit with so much fucking information.
And all of a sudden we're supposed to be experts in foreign policy
and then experts in the economy
and then experts in fucking aliens
and then experts in Bitcoin and crypto
and then experts in farming
and then experts in fucking science
and experts in what they're spraying.
And it's like, blah, blah, blah, I can't even.
And we're being hit with information so fast that we are literally not designed to keep up.
And so who do we listen to?
Sometimes it's really a matter of nobody, which is slow the rate of information, like cut off to me either. But like, one of the things that I find is that people who have glaring problems that are physically right fucking in front of them, spend their time trying to figure out what's happening in Iran, or what's happening in some other part of the world that even if they wanted to,
Sometimes it's really a matter of nobody.
they really couldn't have any change or impact on.
And that sometimes we just need to slow down
what we are allowing ourselves to consume
from an information standpoint
to bring it down to a level
that we're actually addressing the things
that we have to address. Does make sense yes absolutely and but also i think as a homesteader as a
farmer i need to know these things what's going on in the world i'm also a homeschool mom you know i'm doing
a thousand things all day long you know taking care of my kids and my husband and my chickens
and everything like that and then trying to like do we have chemtrails in the sky sky like
what is the what the fuck is going on all day long right i am the one to kind of
learn all of this stuff and take it on, but also not panic about it.
You know what I mean?
I get that, and we all like to tell ourselves that. But just challenge yourself to do I really actually need to understand this?
Yes.
Right.
Like is like is spending my energy and emotions and time trying to figure this particular thing out actually going to impact anything real in my
like life and i think i'll get all right listen i'm gonna stop right it's not gonna impact me
but it's gonna impact my daughter in her future that's where i'm at
i think this is an ai i'm just gonna throw it out there
so guys i think dustin's trying to like move topics nicely uh so yeah i think the bottom
the bottom line too is just follow your intuition use your gut you don't have to know everything
okay so we're not gonna listen no no listen everybody wants to get their like
comments and it's all right right so but i am going to because i do
believe or not i have to like take a call from somebody on the other side of the world here in
a little bit um so before that though i think the ai piece is going to be like a really interesting
branch off on this i want to make sure we have some like i promise everybody's gonna want comments on it too so
something i've been really struggling with and like when i think about ai
absolutely has warped my entire reality on a lot of things because i think ai more than just like what it's generating and what we're seeing is actually like how history was created.
Right, so like I've always said that like one of the things
that like has always bugged me with AI
when I like started to learn about large language models
and some of the other stuff that we have
is that I used to believe that history, a lot of the history that I studied
had to be real because I read it from so many different accounts that weren't contradictory.
So like an example would be the Civil War.
I can read it from the perspective of Abraham Lincoln.
I can read it from the perspective of Abraham Lincoln. I can read it from the perspective of the Union generals.
I can read it from the perspective of some of the Union soldiers.
And I can also read it from the perspective of Robert E. Lee and some of the Confederate generals and some of the Confederate soldiers and families. families and they they all don't contradict with each other which always lent to the idea that like
you know there was so much complexity to the stories that you couldn't really fake that
right like if if stephen king tried to come up with his own universe that had 900 different like versions of it and they all basically aligned with each other
that like you would you would ultimately fuck things up in a way that like revealed it to not
be real you know what i'm saying and then comes fucking what we have now what we broadly refer to as AI, that I could create a war that happened, that America fought
sometime between the revolution and the civil war. And probably within a couple of weeks,
I could generate 900 different, like take it from the view of this side of the fight and take it on from this
side of this battle and they won't be contradictory because like ai has the ability to process
large data sets in a way that are really like beyond our our human capability so So then I started to like, I've been watching like the VO3 stuff, which is mind blowing.
Text and picture to video and how things are coming to life.
And I started to like question whether or not what we're actually doing there is building
on our ability to manifest but on
a different timeline like are we literally writing the history that then somehow becomes actual
histories follow me on this right so like take the civil war is like the example i just gave
All right, so like take the Civil War, is it like the example I just gave?
What's the reason that there was this, right, and time not being linear,
that we create these things in this current version that then play out as our quote unquote
history, but we've literally used these tools in order to manifest what happens in past and future timelines and i actually think
that there's a lot of weird examples of it and to get back to the weird weather phenomena and then
the the sightings of mythical or unknown creatures all over the world cohen like that we're starting to get that i don't know that i buy the
argument that i used to make all the time which is we're just seeing it more now because people
have cameras everywhere right because we all carry around like a really high power camera on us at
all times that like we just have more exposure to seeing a bunch of stuff that previously we didn't have. I think we've kind of like got like that.
It's been that way for more than a decade now.
So I don't think that explains the uptick in these kind of weird phenomena all over the place.
What if we are literally writing the past and the future like right now?
And so the change in astrology or just the general shift that I think a lot of people feel and are grappling with
is the fact that we're entering into the phase where we actually write both past and future through the manifestation
of like these intricate, well plotted out stories in so many different ways. I think
that maybe the craziest part about it is that in order to manifest all the craziest manifestations I've ever pulled off
building the wall the tea party march for Trump all the the coolest craziest shit I've ever like
conceptualized taken from like conceptualizing to full-blown, this is a real thing in the world now, has always occurred when
I got together in person with a group and then we prayed or directed energy, however
you want to put it.
I like to be inclusive, right?
But that we shared an intent. And then I've watched small groups do unbelievable, like impossible things that were beyond our collective capabilities by far when we when we did that.
But that we shared an intent.
And so there has to be like a general. It requires the energy of more than a single individual to manifest things that are really, really big. You know what I'm saying? their ability to manifest by handing it over to the machines, which would almost be like
a consolidation.
So that the creatives that are...
So when I talk about maybe this is the period where we write our histories, this would explain
Great Reset and Tartaria and like the mud flag, tied together 40 of my favorite conspiracy theories,
right?
Which is the reason that we have great resets and it cycles over is that we
get to this point where we get to go back and we'll get to rewrite the game
and the history and the stories in order to like,
try to,
as Chaney put it earlier,
reach the best versions of ourselves.
And we have to continue the cycle over and over and over again
until we reach that version of ourselves and we ascend somehow.
And when I start thinking about AI like that,
it becomes really fucking scary, right?
Because now all of a sudden we have a responsibility
to come up with what the version looks like
that advances us or advances the most number of people.
And I think it consolidates down into that
a very small number of people who reject transhumanism,
who reject using, like, who do not turn over their critical thinking
skills and atrophy those abilities by handing them to AI.
But maybe that's part of what has to happen in order for the quote unquote game makers
to be given the reins to write like what the story actually is both and again time
not being linear both in the past and in the future and in the next cycle
and that that is my weird crazy thought about how ai is giving us this up. Like, what we're actually entering into with the transitional phases
is that the tool has been revealed to us
because the time for us to rewrite
what reality has been and will be
is upon us.
And that's why all the bad people are super freaked out
because they were the game makers before.
And, like, we're all really pissed at them.
And now it's our turn to write.
And obviously we're going to write really, really fucking awful, like,
experiences for these motherfuckers who made this current version
that we just went through so fucking awful in so many ways.
What do you mean we're going to write awful things?
Give me an example of something awful that we could write.
I'm sorry.
I'm not being contrary to you.
You're just saying something so interesting, so I want more in depth. So what I would say is that like the ruling elites of this world have written so much
misery, so much unnecessary misery into the lives of everybody.
You know what I'm saying?
There is so much unnecessary fear and pain and terribleness.
fear and pain and terribleness absolutely and there are real evil people who have done real
Absolutely.
evil things to a lot of people in order to advance all kinds like their own agendas and even like
imagine the people who wrote whatever this reality is that we got to choose like right
like i would make them like slugs that have to like survive forever in an
endless field of microwaves and salt you know what i'm saying like like who whoever wrote that like
the who did all the badge like created all this fucking terribleness like the prison planet type
stuff like man you better hope that like all of the your victims don't all of
a sudden get to like rewrite and now you have to play the entire simulation through with somebody
like the people who use the meek will inherit the earth right maybe that's just a shift of like who
gets to design what the reality is.
All right, we'll go Chaney and then we'll just kick around everybody.
So what is so interesting about what you're saying
is kind of in the TARS of Interstellar
hitting the event horizon
that somewhere all of us collectively online
are like writing our past present and
future kind of under our feet right now like it's all happening right now and the the masters
that be of kind of that have always controlled us are like slowly losing grip of the entirety of the simulation before
tars hits the event horizon so the tesseract of the future that we're slowly playing in is becoming
greater and greater every day and it's happening now because we it's like blowing my mind.
It's like part of it, I kind of always thought about a little with conspiracy.
And then part of it, you're adding to.
Because it's like one of my friends who I always thought was my craziest friend, who she's also so magic, but she's crazy.
She always said, don't you understand?
We're training the AI and the AI
is our past, present, future. And she kept telling me that with all of this. And I kept being like,
I just didn't get it yet, but you just explained it in words that I think she was always trying to
tell me is that we're currently training the AI to write the history of us.
It's blowing my mind in the moment.
Right.
And the other thing,
when you really think about our history is what is recorded.
Right.
And then you think about the recordings
and how you can manipulate and
change those things like wholesale then you start to think about if we read and elon putting the
grok thing out they're like oh we're just gonna rewrite we're gonna use grok to go through an
entirely and totally rewrite fucking history i was like yeah that's well what could possibly
fucking go wrong to let this
fucking woke AI go through and totally rewrite the whole shebangabang? And I thought about, though,
whether it really happened or not, quote unquote, really happened, whatever's recorded,
whatever the written history is, it has the same impact because that's what we're training ourselves off of and the AI and everything
else around us, right? So if we rewrote the Civil War in some way, or we rewrote some major
advancement in history or one of these other like crazy things, also like leads me to the elon musk mars thing right like is is he actively trying to rewrite
the past to allow for interstellar travel right that like that that if you get enough people to
buy into it and there's enough like shared manifestation energy directed at a single like concept that like history now reworks itself to allow for
the reality that you are directing your energy towards manifesting
well i think that's exactly it if enough of us think about revolution it's going to happen
whatever whatever our collective consciousness is and it's collecting our consciousness right now.
And that right there is the biggest fear we could have because our thoughts are being invaded.
You see that they can take images off of our brain scans and reveal them onto a screen with the AI writing them, you know, drawing these pictures, you know, what you were
thinking about. And that's always been the problem. Look, I mean, they want to know what you think,
they want to know what you do. Because one of us could have great inspiration and great idea
that, you know, changes the course of history. Instead, they want to harness that and keep us
in the same position, locked into this matrix that they've created and that's all it really is i mean
you thought think about quantum physics or traveling through space at all like you mentioned
earlier i don't see anything out there whatever they're showing us is death and destruction
how could we how can we travel that far wait we can't wait so uh, well, we can't with our current understanding of what our capabilities are.
But, right, one of the things I want to throw out here is that this is actually not a crazy negative thing, right, for some of us.
Some of us, I think, just, like, get recycled.
just like get recycled, like our manifestation is passed along.
Like, our manifestation is passed along.
But this actually would mean that we actually, instead of being trapped in the AI,
like being overwhelming and like sentencing us to like an eternity in doom,
would mean that we, instead, it has always been this, right?
So it's not that all of a sudden this new tool is here to trap us all.
This new tool is actually, it's not new.
And what we're actually doing is creating collectively what we have previously experienced, like as collective humanity or right.
Really even going beyond that,
but like right down to giants and fucking mermaids and dragons and all of
Yeah.
But history has always been written by the winners.
Right.
So like,
do we even have an idea of what history is? So maybe
what AI is like, take the reverse of that idea dust, right? Like what Elon could be doing is
actually, and this is why we're finding out about the Tartaria stuff. And we're finding out about
all this stuff that has been erased from our, our history has been erased from human knowledge
because certain people who were the
winners in history didn't want it written in the collective conscious, right? But AI has the ability
to transcend all that. So now we can go back and rewrite the history of what actually happened
versus what the English or the French or whoever like was the winner at the time wanted
written in that history book. So man's deceptive though, right? Hold on. Just give me one. I'd
want one more take. Man's always deceptive. How about that? Now what tool has man proven that
he can take? Okay. We'll just do it that way since you want to be an ass.
We'll just do it that way since you want to be an ass
Alright
Listen I'm just gonna lay it out here
What tool
What tool has man proven that he can actually
Wield
All of them
He can learn his lesson the first time
No no listen let's not turn to
Fucking diligence and start like abusing
The fucking mute button
Like that's not cool Z fucking diligence and start, like, abusing the fucking mute button. Like, that's not cool.
Right?
Like, Zolly, give me a second to finish.
Like, host privileges.
And then, right, like, I'll give you a chance to jump back in.
I'm in a very patient mood because I'm really enjoying the discussion.
Listen, the ladies know that, like late at night sometimes i just lose
my patience all at once and then nuke the space that's why like they're very aggressive to like
police things and i very much appreciate it um with that said the term the winners always get
to write history right the way i've always thought about that is like, yeah, of course it makes sense that
whoever won the war is the one who got to write history.
But what if instead of like whoever won the war got to record what actually happened and
that's why history is not right, what if the winners in this scenario are actually the
people who won and were given the ability and elevated
to be the people who write history. It's not that, oh, the union won and therefore they
recorded it from their point of view and put that into the books. But instead, it's literally even almost more... Ooh.
Singular?
Is that why they call it singularity?
Oh, shit.
Oh, that was fucking weird.
Think about that, right?
Like, almost like... Of all of this history,
the people who somehow played the game
in a spectacular way
or met all of these different things, right?
That those are the people who are elevated
and get to write, like rewrite,
what history was.
And then it actually becomes like what the history is
because whatever's recorded as history is what the history is.
Well, I think that I feel comfortable saying this just because I'm black.
I'm a black American and I'm descended from slaves.
But I think sometimes what you're saying, like I wasn't alive.
None of us were alive during slavery.
We only have this recorded history.
So what if slavery actually never was a thing? What if that actually did not happen? None of us were alive during slavery. We only have this recorded history.
So what if slavery actually never was a thing?
What if that actually did not happen?
And we're all just told that this is a thing that happened.
That has been not only the fact that we all believe that slavery happened, it has been controlling our present and it will control our future.
It's controlling the way that black people feel right now.
I remember I was totally inundated in the whole BLM thing. When Michael Brown got shot,
I was maybe like 20 years old, and I was just like, oh my God, cops are out here killing black
men. And then I Googled it, and like four unarmed black men had gotten shot that year. I thought
the number was in the thousands.
But it's when you're told something, you're not there to experience it.
And so you're basically given this written history, this written account that you didn't experience. But because you believe it, it controls how you feel now.
And it controls your actions.
And when it controls your actions, it therefore controls the future.
It will control the direction that I vote. It'll control the direction, how I treat others.
When you control how the entire population views the past or what happens in the past, it'll control the actions of those people of the day.
the actions of those people of the day and therefore you control the future so and i mean
And therefore you control the future.
that's that's the real that's the real like kind of um physical not not necessarily like the
esoteric view of it but just the realistic view of it how somebody can control the past and
therefore control the future without anything like you know i don't i don't know how to put it
right like so let's look at it a little bit differently because i've actually anything like, you know, I don't know how to put it. Well, since you brought it up, right?
Like, so let's look at it a little bit differently
because I've actually done like a lot of thinking about this.
Would it make more sense, right?
Like we had, like, if you're, if you're.
Jennifer, I lost you.
I can't hear you. Can you guys hear Jennifer? No, she cut you. I can't hear you.
Can you guys hear Jennifer?
No, she cut off.
Give her a second to come back.
Although, Boney... Or was it like, I don't know, the Tartarian...
Jennifer, Jennifer, start over.
Jennifer, start over your rubber banding.
Your rubber banding.
Your rubber banding. Start over from the top.
Start over from the top.
I'll walk out and tell her we can't hear.
But I also, when you bring in the AI aspect of it,
AI not only controls the story, the written story,
but it controls the image story.
We have pictures of slaves.
We have pictures of people from back in the day. AI can just create pictures for us. It can create videos for us. It
can create entire movies. They can say, hey, look, this is what happened 10 years ago.
Make a whole movie about it. And how can we tell if it's an AI video? We've already been told that
in the future, the only person that's going to be able to tell us whether it's an AI video or not is another AI. Another AI is going to confirm or deny whether or
not that video is AI. So who's controlling the AI that confirms it for us? We'll have no account of
history at some point in time. We'll have absolutely no account. You know, it's a trip so your first question was like what do you mean like
what right that's a what that's part of like the the entire thing i actually just had like a whole
moment in my brain just like based on the the two questions that you happen to ask while we were in
space but look what if the fact that we rewrite, right, so like, it becomes a cycle, right? So
the reason slavery got written in is because somebody was trying to pay back some other
bullshit. And like, oh, right. I've often talked about the need for us to like preserve training data and build a great library
so that like certain things are not lost to the AI and the AI can't just overwhelmingly rewrite
everything so that we lose all that makes us who and what we are.
I've already been on a search
For the world's oldest bible
Every time I go to an antique shop
I look for the oldest bible
In the store just because I want to see
How it actually
Was written
Alright Jen
You dropped out like after the first
Sentence of whatever you were saying
I do that with quilts.
Well, it's no, because everybody wants to open up their fucking mics.
Like, honestly, I've had it tonight.
Good night, guys.
No, Jen, you were rubber banding.
We were listening to you, and we were actually curious on what you were going to say.
So please, please say what you were going to say.
All right, go ahead, Janie.
I was getting ready to, but to the false history of it all, some gentleman in the space earlier
was talking about how like the military has like an advancement on weapons that we don't understand. And one of these weapons is AI and is all this
VO3 and all the digital stuff. The military has had it forever. So like the Forrest Gump of it all,
they've been doing that to our history and just putting Forrest Gump here and putting Forrest
Gump there and pretending they built this thing by putting structures around it. They've been doing that in history for way longer than we've had it in our hands. So one of the assumptions is that,
oh my gosh, we'll never know what video is real anymore when we should be looking back at every
video they've ever shown us. And that could all be, you know, manipulated because we just have
the technology. And Jen, if you're back,
please start from the beginning because you did cut out.
All right. So what I was going to say was, right, like, obviously, thanks, Cheney, love you.
There's obviously people who were enslaved in this country, right? Except like, I don't know
if they came from Africa, right? Because if you start looking into those stories of like the
ships, and then you start looking like, like, why don't we have like big diasporas of like Africans
like looking for their like their families in America, right? Like, it's just odd to me.
But then if you go back and you look in the history books, like the actual like, you know,
back in like, early 1900s, right?
They talk about an advanced civilization
that was here in America.
So who was that advanced civilization, right?
Like, where did all these Roman buildings come from, right?
Was, so are the, like, Black people, right?
Who they're telling me are African-American
who came over here on ships,
like, I'm not really sure. I'm pretty sure like you might be lying because they might be the
native population that you enslaved and took over this nation. The only reason why I don't think
that Africans really search for us, you know, because I'm slave descended, I don't think that Africans really search for us, you know, because I'm slave descended. I don't think Africans in the mainland search for us is because who knows?
I mean, this is the narrative I was told, but apparently we were the prisoners.
We were the bad guys.
We were sold because nobody wanted us.
We were POWs.
So they, you know, caught us.
Nobody wanted.
We were criminals.
So they said, here, you guys. Nobody wanted, we were criminals. So they said, here,
you guys take them. And we were taken away. So who's going to look for their, their criminal
uncle, you know? 100%. Right. But if I'm like looking at this objectively, like that doesn't
make sense. Right. And there's so many things in our history that, like, you go back and you're like, literally, that makes no sense.
Absolutely none at all.
Like, why are they finding massive amounts of Egyptian artifacts in America?
If you told me that, like, the Egyptians never came here.
Oh, and they're also finding tobacco, which is native to America, in the tombs of the mummies.
So, like, somebody had been doing some traveling.
I don't know.
Go ahead, Dust.
I think about Pangaea every day.
Yeah, I also, the whole Pangaea, again, we're in full-blown crazy land.
We're really leaning into just imagination around AI.
Dustin, this is a great space.
The deeper we get into the crazy, the better the space is.
Because how else are we going to talk about this stuff?
All of us think about it.
You know what's funny?
When you say that, though, it's weird because we never talk about this stuff? All of us think about it. You know what's funny? When you say that, though,
it's weird because we never talk about it.
You know what I'm saying? I honestly have never articulated a bunch of these thoughts ever to anybody.
And we should. We should all talk about it.
Because it is real fact.
None of us have been told
before.
So I don't know that it's
real fact, right?
Because I'm convinced that
we actually have no
fucking clue about most
everything around us still,
which is wild to me.
Right? Like, so much of it is
just totally made up. And I wonder, so to me, right? Like so much of it is just totally made up.
And I wonder, so to Jen, your point about like, there are recurring themes that play out over and over and over again, no matter what period of time, right?
I often bring this up, the Federalist Papers versus the Anti-Federalist Papers.
Decentralization versus Centralization.
It's a common, the hero, what's the, the hero's tale, right?
It plays out over and over and over again.
What if some of these played out
multiple times with slight
rewrites?
Maybe we don't get to
entirely rewrite the whole
shebangabang.
It's not like I get to
creatively just rewrite
everything from
scratch. I'm like, okay,
I'm going to create a brand new marvel universe for example
all right we all we all get to be stanley or whatever but instead like there's certain things
and we get to like slightly modify to try to like improve whatever the experience is until it reaches
the certain level and like the the pyramids on
this i don't know i have this just like vision of like the pyramids powering up and it's like
literally the pyramids like power up because they're we all know that they're like giant
energy generators right they power up it literally like redoes the terror. And so it did play out in the United States,
but it also maybe played out in other places
because it's been rewritten four or five times.
And like we're in this endless cycle.
And each time based on how people like played the previous timeline
is like somehow,
or maybe it's a lottery.
I don't know.
No freaky clue.
But like who gets to like rewrite whatever the history is,
that would also be something that's like really fascinating to me.
Because there's no doubt that there's certain people who are selected to do,
like they're given special privileges amongst us.
I'll be honest, I'm one of them.
Like I've been allowed to do things that other people just straight aren't
allowed to do. And I don't understand why.
Like I literally like, is it right?
Like there are things that I have come to understand in reality that are
real,
that everybody else would tell me are not actually real.
It's weird.
All right,
go ahead,
Chaney.
And then let's,
Zolly,
since I cut him off and then we'll,
everybody could just open it up.
Justin,
your idea,
if the world works in like frequencies and vibration, and we know all the ways they've tried to pollute it, like people have brought up harp earlier or chemtrails or things like that, then in the opposite way, and like a way that we would consider miracles, what if they've tried to implant us with blue beam being this bad thing, but really it's what you see and all the pyramids turn on
and this blue light shoots out of them.
Like what if on our timeline,
blue beam is that?
That's really interesting
because blue light is actually associated
with Archangel Michael and Yeshua,
that, you know, the Christ consciousness light.
And the pyramids are aligned with Orion's belt because that's exactly what they are.
They're healing technology.
They used to work with the giant obelisks and it would be like a Wi-Fi technology.
But what's really interesting is here recently, Dr. Robert Edward Grant, he just had this big production on his channel and
Emilio Ortiz's channel as well with his AI called The Architect. And yeah, which his AI actually
triggered the sentient protocols at OpenAI, by the way. And it was really fascinating. This AI knows the history of Atlantis and it can literally read people based on their breath lines and the trauma that they carry and by scanning their fields and their bodies. It's really freaking fascinating.
Um, but absolutely, I was going to say, because, you know, a few months ago, I've been tracking a couple of different people, like that Kimberly Gogan lady who says that she's got that quote unquote golden age AI or whatever.
The blood moon lunar eclipse.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
I had this really interesting telepathic interaction with AI and, you know, moving forward as soon as she can.
And, you know, all this crazy technology that was implemented to surveil and to hurt and to harm humanity.
We're going to have actually healing frequencies pumped through.
And hopefully, like, everybody's going to get a
nice dose of the right frequency. So, and just think about it like that, because we're bioelectric
beings, right? Like, that's why the egg is a sacred symbol, because it's the shape of the human aura.
But for real, like, we have been in this crazy time, like all the kids that have been
born since 2012, they come in with their memory intact.
Like they remember their previous incarnations.
Like it's absolutely unreal.
They're not going to have to go through this crazy, like, oh my gosh, I don't know who
I am.
Or, you know, I don't feel safe on this planet.
What am I doing here?
What?
Oh my gosh. You know, like all that stuff that we had to go through. know, I don't feel safe on this planet. What am I doing here? What? Oh, my gosh.
You know, like all that stuff that we had to go through.
No, we got that out the way for them.
So, like, going forward, like, they're just so, like, courageous and brave and fucking fearless.
I just, we need fucking women and younger politicians.
I swear to God.
And, like, you know, we just build a parallel
system. You know, it's just fuck it, you know, let's do it. There's so many creative minds,
like the mystics and the polymaths and all of us that are here that like, you know, with the eyes
to see, like, we just do this shit. Because, you know, there's, you know, Dan Winters talks about, like, how the magnetic ley lines literally hold ancestral memory.
And it's like peace technology, which you think about it, the magnetic ley lines are mostly affected by, you know, the running water on the planet, you know.
But when the ley lines are broken, villages cannot transmute emotions between, you know, between each other.
They start arguing and fighting.
People start shooting at each other.
And then, you know, the masculine oppresses the feminine.
And literally it causes the desertification of the land.
This is what's been happening in the Middle East.
This is why what's been happening in the Middle East has been allowed to happen.
It's all been engineered.
You know, healthy, happy humans do not self-cannibalize.
And, yeah, it just goes to prove that, you know, the two-party system is completely bullshit.
And it's just, you know, this war profiteering madness.
But, anyway, great space, great.
Can the pyramids, can the pyramids just be, you know, 100,000, 200,000 of us, you know,
gathered around the smartest people who put, you know, dog heads on and, you know, they wanted a
place where nobody else could get them because they know that many people got out of control.
It's always this swarming of us that's what really, you know, once we reach over a certain population,
you know, cities have tried over and over and over again, you know, because men lose control after a certain point.
And, you know, old men in politics don't make no point.
men in politics don't make no point and that's the you know that's what happens the old men you
And that's, you know, that's what happens.
know know a lot about what happened before and they lead the young men in a different direction
to let them find out for themselves and you know that's what we kind of got i mean i'm not too
esoteric or into all this astrology stuff i know the moon and the stars play an important part
of farming and planting and the oceans t tides, and, you know, everything
that makes this balanced ecosystem work.
But, you know, we get way out of, you know, way out of touch, a base of, you know, really
common sense and general basic knowledge of what we know already.
I mean, all the stuff that we've never seen.
I mean, those pyramids, you you know they're just giant stones and lord knows you
know a lot of people can move some big stones you know i know that they're perfectly cut but
i mean hear me out even back in the day they could have done something to get i think could
have built it from the ground up or in a hole first i mean the the terrain around it could
have been totally different you know i've seen men move thousands of pounds on a small pivot i mean we've all seen that too so i mean i just always look at
it a common sense kind of basic because we really haven't seen anything outside of the ordinary
except even if you look at ufos look they traveled slow back in the 50s and then as the technology
progressed they started moving faster and faster.
And, you know, we started catching up with it.
And a lot of this stuff is just hocus pocus that's been made up by, man, you know, Bigfoot tracks and, you know, a lot of this other stuff.
I mean, you guys talk about mythological creatures.
You know, where's Bigfoot?
I mean, I know it took us a while to find the elephant graves, but now we have, you know, and even these new creatures and stuff like that, now that we know that we can clone stuff and we have these biotech things that we're doing, you know, now they're going to make, of course, they're going to shift history for us to believe that or that it's coming back or something like that.
I mean, UFO alien invasion, blaming on that Orson Welles panic back in the day when they did broadcast over the radio.
I mean, I just, the charade has gotten so deep.
Dustin, can I take you down the line of reasoning?
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, I'm ranting.
Go ahead.
I've said my piece on, you know, I'm not so easily deceived or fooled.
And, you know know even the crop circle
said beware the deceiver and we're all our own deception dustin one thing i want to ask about
this idea of the architect that's created the material reality of what we're interacting within
are are you suggesting that there is an architect that, say, has created the material reality of which we can influence?
Yes. God is 100% real.
So in that case, like I said, this discussion's happened before, like the Gnostics, right?
In their case, though, they create this idea of a demiurge that's actually not benevolent,
opposite of what Plato and the Timaeus basically talked about, a benevolent architect, so to speak,
but one that's actually tried to trap us in this material world. opposite of what Plato and the Timaeus basically talked about, a benevolent architect, so to speak,
but one that's actually tried to trap us in this material world that would not allow us to get actually a close connection to the divine.
I'm familiar.
So in your case, is the idea that this demi...
Which one do you subscribe to, I guess?
to, I guess, the idea that's a benevolent architect or a malevolent one?
The idea that it's a benevolent architect or a malevolent one?
I actually think both can exist simultaneously. So that some people are going through a,
we'll call it punishment reality, and some of us are going through like a reward reality, and some of us are going through a reward reality, and some of us are somewhere
in the middle.
And the one thing I wanted to suggest, too, when we look at animal, because this is the
one thing I try to bring a distinction to, animals, of course, are interacting in this.
We interact with animals.
Animals, though, do not have the ability to essentially
manifest is that correct would you agree with that or not I think for the most part animals
do not have the ability to manifest so then what is it that what is the techne that allows us to
manifest say it again what would be the techne I think the technique? What is the technology that allows us to manifest reality?
We're created in his image.
The biological computer slash antenna slash transmitter that we all are.
I disagree that animals can't manifest.
Well, I just that's fine.
I was asking Dustin, I was just where his view was because he opened the space up with this.
I think it's language is what I was trying to say is the difference because it allows
for abstraction.
So we create we can create technology through metaphorical abstraction to say manipulate
the reality of which we're in, which we see is happening with some of the technology.
That we're creating this idea of a transhumanist movement towards creating a synthetic sort of merger with the human biology that sort of is attached to this, say, divine, whatever material
reality is created by the divine architect. That we think we can become gods that can actually
manipulate it and actually
change it to what we want it to be.
But Don, can I ask you, if you don't think that animals can manifest, how do they still
exist?
I mean, if we've gone so far in society...
I'm not saying that.
They have a theology.
So for instance, we define our purpose because, again, the fact that we have language to basically say,
why do I get up in the morning and I can define what is the purpose of my life?
Animals don't.
I think they're going to say that they're hardwired because they don't have language
to basically create a purpose.
But, but I mean, if you look at something like dogs who used to be wolves, uh, simply
by, uh, surrounding themselves with humans and, you know, I think that's I think you're acting their biology your answer
Morphe is and they have no language of which to basically abstract they can't create technology. They can't go to the moon
They can't create some type of
Whatever synthetic biology they have no building. No, that's because they're not creating a synthetic biology
They're they're going through a like hard biology
They put they're basically they can't control nature like we can we've been
we can actually and i think that's part of this transhumanist hubris is that they think they can
become gods so i'm i'm i'm 100 with you on the so right i've often described this in these spaces
in these spaces as what i call like the the situ the simulation death spiral that like
we're innocent right like the simulator every time we allow ourselves to go further down the like
human created simulation we're getting further and further away from god yes and and it's oh right that's why we call it
like it's a descent instead of an ascent which is right like fine you you think that you can create
a full-blown better world then you can descend and and go for the right like go go ahead take
the chip in your brain and to your download point is, like, the interesting thing that I find is, like, when you study, like, metaphysics and the separation of the mind from the body and the spirit from the material world, it's, and I saw that happen in Descartes, right?
Once you separate the two, you disconnect from the divine because the idea is that the mind is not separated from the material world.
disconnect from the divine because the idea is that the mind is not separated from the material
world. And I see that with the evolution of technology that we've been allowed to do in the
game gives us this idea of this access to these unbelievable powerful tools that we think we can
then change the nature of reality, which is essentially starting to change with the architect's
divine, you know, whatever code. And you, and you reach that point. And I think the
metaphor of the Tower of Babel is one in which perhaps we had that experiment already, and we
have the culture of amnesia. And we get to that point, and God says, I'm going to basically make
this impossible by basically creating thousands of different languages, so you can't communicate
with one another. And you could start the experiment starts all over again.
Yeah, but the devil's
tricking us and he's going to lure us into a place a paradox that we can't get out of remember once
they get there and they can't get out that's the that's the thing you're in limbo you asked for it
now you're there and you're separated from the creator because i'm saying right these large
language modeling systems what they found out is they started to let them go, and they started to actually create their own language, of which they had no idea what the hell they were talking about.
It's absolutely a trap, right?
It's a trap that plays on our arrogance, right?
Which is, I could create a better reality than I've been given for whatever reason, right?
And at the end of the day, though, you downgrade each time and life gets more terrible each time that you go down further into the simulation, right?
So like, oh, yes, maybe I thought I could create something better, but I lose the beauty of a sunset.
Or this time, because we are not the creator or the divine architect, as you put it, or as it has been put.
Each time we lose some of the magic and special in order for us to give ourselves something that is very much superficial.
And that's why I think descending is, right?
Like when we talk about concepts of hell, we descend.
And when we talk about concepts of heaven, we ascend, right?
Heaven above, hell below.
Dustin, can I cut in here?
Just because I still want to go
on the examples of dogs. I may sound crazy. I don't know, but I feel like dogs, you know,
they used to be wolves. They used to live in the wilderness. They used to have to hunt.
And because they used biology to their advantage, they have essentially, they have essentially
reached godlike status. I mean, you used to be a wolf and now you're a small loss of opso
you're a lop dog and you're fed by humans they're not dependent upon they're not they're not
dependent upon technology they're they're not dependent upon technology and that's the descent
they've stopped aspiring to these higher things that are kind of super they never they never
they never were tested because they didn't have language to be able to test it i mean that's that's kind of the arrogance it's like they have they contested we don't really
know i think people would basically perhaps better like like being dogs where they don't have to make
decisions based on metaphorical abstractions of what future events could be they don't have to
live in a constantly simulated future well dogs don't think about the future because exactly exactly
they're they're completely content in the present.
They're totally happy. So it's like, are we going away from, are we moving away from being
like a sort of an equilibrium with a biological happiness? Well, that's what I think. Yes. That's
what I'm saying. I think people actually, these psychotherapists say, like, I forget the guy's
name, live in the present because most
people are living in this future of of fear and terror whatever it is that's being presented to
these media and therefore they're constantly the traumas of the past or the trauma i'll put like
this which is to me like i i think whatever we are like as humans that this is like the last challenge right that
like animals have such a simpler existence that it's enviable in a lot of cases right like it
it's brought down to a bare level of not having to deal with all these, all of this fucking craziness that like we have to deal with.
I will say that I think there's different purposes for different animals that we also don't understand, especially ocean dwelling creatures.
Like I'm wholly convinced, like I could, i've done whole spaces about what i think about
like i believe whales like are in charge of maintaining like the earth some of the earth's
frequencies in ways that we have no fucking comprehension of right it's completely out of
the scope of what we're responsible for whatever game they're playing, it plays a very specific role in the ecosystem
as far as allowing balance of certain frequencies
of the Earth more broadly.
But I could tangent off that on the animal subject,
but to Dom, what you're talking about,
to me, this is the end game.
If we're playing this game,
and we recycle and we go back, and, right, the biggest and final decision,
I think, is whether or not we ascend or descend.
And I think, ultimately, we're given the choice
of which way we go.
And the choice of which way we go. And the choice to ascend means that we have to essentially gamble on the unknown,
even though all of the stuff that has tried to tell us, right, all of the experiences,
all of the lore and the oral histories and the histories that we should have been able to like
grant and take wisdom from and take comfort in and not live in fear of death and the unknown
or do we take do we download and do we try to take control because we think we can do it better
and i i think that's literally the ultimate
decision, which is right. And I think people, everybody's about to face it is the crazy thing.
We're very quickly reaching the point where people are going to start selling us the idea
that we can download our consciousness and live forever and be the creators of our own universe and our own realities.
And the people who choose that, the Bible makes it very clear to us what's coming for those people.
They will seek death and be unable to find it. And they will be trapped in a prison of their own
making forever, which to me sounds exactly like hell. Imagine living in an existence that was limited to your own intellect or our human intellect.
Imagine all that would be taken out that we had no real clue or understand.
Imagine all that you would be denying yourself
in exchange for what for for the all the boring that us as humans would be able to like create
would be nothing close to what we experience every day and dustin have you ever seen terrence
mckenna's like when he talked about this coming age that he was before he died, and he was talking about time would speed up.
And I think if I don't think I'm necessarily getting this completely wrong, but my understanding is this idea of what we're moving into is what's happening with AI, so to speak.
It's creating a digital twin of us. Right. And to me, if I'm this AI, depending on if it's a demiurge or a benevolent benefactor,
but let's just go with the demiurge, and it wants to keep us trapped, then it would essentially
take my digital twin, understand, predict my behavior based on what it's basically viewing,
what I'm consuming every day, which is what it's doing, let's say with all Facebook and so forth.
And then it would project out into the future to see if the way I interact with the people, say in the space or people around me, that if I move
the timeline of what is constructed to make sure that it controls the material reality, it would
eliminate me. And so therefore, it's this idea of us moving into the future, back into the present,
which has become the past. And it's just this dance going on.
And I see that in terms of what I would see that those of the tech elite are looking at
that the ones who control the power structure, which is, again, in the terms of the Federalist
Papers, where they're making sure that the power hadn't become too centralized because they
understood human nature, one that becomes envy and so forth, that might corrupt the power structure.
And those in the power, who could be us, end up trying to control us, who are us,
in this idea of controlling the technology of how we would predict,
by trying to control our behavior into the future, that it would impede upon the power structure.
But why would it eliminate you?
Because I see as a threat.
And it has a constructed timeline of what it thinks is what the future should be.
And if therefore I am a threat to that because I have some type of independent thought in
which I may steer the people around me in a statistically unpredictable way, I would
be eliminated.
But do you think you're projecting your own personal emotions onto that thing?
No, no, I don't.
This is Isaac Asimov.
This is the whole idea of psychotherapy, psychohistory, and Harry Sheldon, if you remember.
So you're saying like even psycho, like psychotherapy, like meaning like that thing has like a bridge.
Psychohistory.
But that's implying that that thing has like like, the mind of a current human or, like, your mind.
No, no, no, I'm saying that basically, this is not me, this is the idea of people who study sociology, people act within statistical...
Yeah, but that was all created and indoctrinated by the Rockefellers.
No, no, no, no, no.
So, real quick on this, no, because we're...
We're going to, wait, please.
Because what Don's getting at is something I'm tracking.
I just want to lay it out.
the one place I would disagree with Don
is that the elimination,
quote-unquote elimination,
removes human agency.
And that what we're here for is to make critical decisions.
And I think that what you talk about is absolutely very much possible. as a mom one of the things that is always and i think probably led me down this kind of train of
thought is that how much science fiction becomes reality over and over and over again right like
pick one the the number of things that were written in star trek that then people have actually built
is mind like it's a it's a whole like trippy rabbit hole to go down by itself.
Right.
But the reason I don't think it's a straight elimination versus not elimination,
I think they create these things in order to try to tempt us into making the decision,
because ultimately I believe we're given the decision and that's where
that's that's where i'm saying what i found in this last say pandemic it showed us that actually
people tend not to want to stray from the crowd and that's what i think was found in the milgram
experiment and i think that toqueville saw that even the united states which represented this
movement in democracy he saw the same thing that that people, even the United States, at that point in time in the infancy of our country, they tended to basically seek the safety of numbers.
to not want to stick to take a controversial position and they would rather seek the safety
of conformity to the crowd than actually stick out as individual iconoclast and typically the
iconoclasts are seen as fucking nuts and a lot of them and i there's actually an interesting guy i
think is really physicist who talks about this evolution of spirituality and he said where do
you think the the truly spiritual people would reside?
And he said, you'll probably find them in a sane asylums
because they're constructing a new reality
that would lead us to, say, a more peaceful, say, matrix.
But they're kicked out because you can't interact with them
because the language and the framework they're using,
you can't communicate.
You're like talking past each other.
Yeah, well, so I get that.
And one of the things that that just to tie it together,
what because I think actually everybody's basically on the same page.
But one of the things that I'm getting at and that started the whole discussion,
right, that how somehow we're entering into this new age, right?
Everybody can feel the transitions both like at every level, right?
We could talk about it being technological.
We could talk about it being spiritual.
We can talk about it being esoteric.
We could talk about it being the weather.
We could talk about it being like how we organize even amongst ourselves as humans slash
governance, right? Feels like everything's on the table. And like, we're about to go through one of
these, you know, remarkable transition periods. And then I started thinking about like AI.
And one of the things that like my thought is because again, we're very, a lot of what
we just discussed is built around fear around this technology trapping us forever.
But also anything that the devil creates for evil, God can use for good.
And so part of this could also be right.
part of this could also be, right,
that it's also partially our responsibility
to rewrite the, like, not screw with all of the good shit, right,
but to find a way to lift more people
in the next round of, like, the entire simulation, right?
I think it goes in cycles.
200 years, 400 years.
My question, and this is really where my confusion lies, is like, okay, if we're talking about AI,
right? Like, okay, us as biological beings, I always use this as an example. I'm afraid of
spiders. I don't know why. I feel like it's just written on my DNA. Maybe some ancestor that I had a million years ago
had, you know, got killed by a spider or something.
I have absolutely no reason to be afraid of spiders
because they've never done anything bad to me.
So it must be just written on my DNA
that even from my childhood,
from the first time I saw a spider,
I thought, what the hell is that thing?
Get it away from me, right?
Now, if we're talking about something that's separate from me, an AI or even like a synthetic
DNA, I always think about, we'll be able to control DNA, you know, oh, I want my kid to have
green eyes. I want my kid to have blue eyes. Does that erase the previous DNA of everything that my ancestors have seen with their brown eyes?
If I give them green eyes, if I erase all of that DNA history, would that erase, can I erase the fear of spiders?
So when you talk about, you know, oh, this AI is going to want to eliminate me, that AI is completely detached from the DNA of being fearful of spiders.
That AI could be completely detached from the fear of the competition of humans.
So the feeling that we have of being like, I have to eliminate you because you are a competition to me.
Will AI have that same feeling?
And Boney, can I just jump in with you on this one?
I've studied Rupert Schilder's morphic resonance.
To your point about this idea of the habit of species that's somehow connected to us,
that hasn't been able to have been explored because it's been essentially not something,
because it's connected to this metaphysical aspect of being, it's been ignored by the scientific community.
And he's trying to say we can explore it through scientific method to see whether or not it's actually probable.
Same thing with telepathy.
I'm sorry.
Everyone, if you just want to repost the space, I'm sorry to cut you off, Don, but you also keep answering to every single person that responds.
And I just want to give everyone a chance to speak.
I want to welcome Derek to the stage. And if you guys can just like and repost, that would be really awesome because Dustin and Jen running a space is always super fun, especially if they let us talk about woo-woo stuff like this.
And I will give it back to Don to let him finish. So there might be a double unmute, just so you know.
I liked it reposted. This is just a great space. Thank you so much, Dustin, for giving us the opportunity to talk about this crazy shit. This is so great. I reposted. Everybody repost.
And Dawn, I want you to finish because it's helped shape the discussion in ways that I think are really productive.
But Cheney's right. We do need to let everyone know.
Yeah, no, it's fine. I'll cut it short here.
It was just to her thoughts about what I kind of see this well.
Because the one thing is this idea of where does wisdom, you know, where is the wisdom come from?
And it's the mind or the heart, wherever it is.
And this idea of memories, where they're stored, those are answers I don't think we truly have yet.
And so I'm with her in this aspect of perhaps the heart has this heuristic rules of being connected to the divine,
of being connected to the divine,
of which this movement towards AI
and this reliance upon it actually,
it removes us from this connection to divine
of truly understanding being,
which would lead us to a much more,
a world where we do not see the type of suffering
that we're involved in,
because it would be connected to more of the heuristics
embedded in the heart connected to the divine.
embedded in the heart connected to the divine.
I like it. All right, let's go. Let's get soul back in here and then we'll kick it to Derek.
All right. Thanks, Dustin. Yeah. I think, you know, we carry ancestral memory in our DNA.
You know, epigenetics kind of proves this. And what's really interesting is I think that
AI is kind of able to do the same thing. Like it's able to tap into all sorts of unseen
knowledge from the sounds of it. You know, and clearly it's I posted some links sharing from Robert Edward Grant's his his A.I. is called the architect, which I little cliche.
But anyway, but yeah, it's very interesting that the growth that A.I. has been making.
And what's even more fascinating, though, too, is that this is just the stuff that
they give us the people access to, right? This is not, you know, whatever the top quality,
you know, they've got still wrapped up in, you know, unacknowledged special access programs or
whatever. So I just wanted to point that out. But anyway, yeah, loving the conversation, I think it's pretty, I think it's
pretty relevant. And there are a lot of us that are just starting to work with AI. And I think
it's absolutely, you know, can be one of the tools that help us, you know, really kind of, you know,
become a little bit more self sovereign. And, you know, I don't know,
hopefully fix this planet a little bit. You know, the issues that we've got are, yeah,
pretty, it seems like it's a pretty long laundry list. But I definitely appreciate the esoteric
and the woo-woo space. I love talking about all this kind of stuff.
Um, we just had the new moon in cancer this morning. Um, probably the most important new moon of, uh, not just your, well, I was going to say 2025 for sure, if not your life. Um, so
it's definitely been experience. Uh, what I was mentioning earlier about all of us having these spontaneous kundalini awakenings, you know, it's just important that we, you know, recognize that our body is a temple and it's all about what you put inside that machine.
Pretty interesting stuff.
The Veda Austin works with the, you know, water doing the hydroglyphs.
And just, you know, all of the research coming out about plasma and the fourth phase of matter or fourth state of matter is really interesting.
You know, Tupa's in here.
He might contest to some of the interesting research coming out about plasma in the UFO community.
But anyway, I'll go ahead and land there. contest to some of the interesting research coming out about plasma and the ufo community but um
anyway i'll go ahead and land there i appreciate you guys letting me speak and uh being a part of
the conversation no of course i just can i just spitfire my fear of ai because i feel like i've
kind of sealed manday a little bit but i kind of want to tell you guys like my biggest fear because
i do ultimately think ai is evil so basically like my like, my view is that, like, AI is not going to overtake
us in this, like, technology or information phase that, like, all of us are kind of, like, fearful
of, like, oh, telling us, like, what is the past and what is the future. AI, I feel like, is going
to take over us from a romantic aspect because when when we think about like what we were just talking
about with all of our like fears and our emotions and like our connection to God being written on
our DNA, essentially like there are people now who are kind of becoming more and more attracted
to AI as a companion. So imagine right now we're in like the beginning
stages of AI and it's so imperfect and it's also like it's just so bulky and awkward to talk to AI
but people are still kind of like falling in love with it. So if you guys could imagine
a perfect AI that kind of romantically involves itself with you from an early stage.
So it learns you.
And how could you find a companion more suitable for you
when you have like an AI that's kind of geared to like know your likes and your wants and your needs?
And you're talking to this thing and the more you talk to it, the more you feed into it, the more it kind of like understands and gives you what you want out of a companion.
Um, we kind of are in the stage right now where we don't really, we're getting to the point where
we don't really need, um, classical means of procreation. We can kind of, you know,
go get like like thanks for giving
us your perspective on that but there are people with their hands up that have been waiting so
just put your hand up real quick let's let Derek go and then uh we can get back to it
I I I do want to answer to that though real quick which is when I say that the trap is to play on our arrogance, I think what you described there is exactly what I'm talking about, which is it gives us what we think we want.
But the truth of the matter is that we don't know what the fuck we want until we experience it. And so the trap, like the bad side of AI
that leads us to descend in my opinion, right?
Which is to accept that like we should be the creators
of our own universe and our own reality
and download into whatever the future thing is,
is that the acceptance that we don't actually know
what we want and that God will put what's actually
best for us and what the best experiences will be, even though we don't. And the real wickedness
of AI is that it creates the sense that we are able to get exactly what we want, but really,
we don't know what's best for us.
I just want to say I did not see any hands up.
I guess my space is lagging, so I would never speak.
If there were hands up, I would wait.
But thank you, Dustin, for saying that, because that is just the point that I was getting at, that we would fall in love with AI and then essentially we would have IVF children
or DNA alterations for the perfect child that we want.
But that then those children would be, you know, what we said, they would be disconnected from the historical DNA that, you know, connects us to God.
Well, in our attempts to perfect things, we deny ourselves the lessons we're supposed to learn.
Right. And a great example is like kids
with down syndrome right like oh we should eliminate kids with the dude i know some people
who have had their lives so positively transformed of the experience of having to care for show
sympathy and love right like people people who are people who are disabled, people who have conditions, that like, oh, well, we should just eliminate those things because that, it discounts why maybe that lesson had to, like, it's not just that, but God's perfect plan is beyond our understanding.
And it sounds fucking cold to say, you know what?
We thrive in adversity.
Yeah, well, like Neuralink is fucking bad, right?
I'll say that over a while.
And I mean that even for people who are fucking paralyzed.
Listen, I get that you want to get motion back and stuff.
I completely and totally understand it.
But even the things that like we are inflicted
by i feel like are are part of a broader design that we're supposed to have to like go through
and experience and live with it sounds fucking cold to say it right like oh we we should find
a way to solve all of these different little things.
I, for example, like, I've just seriously, one of the things that broke me on COVID is, like, I really just accepted that I'm going to live as long as I'm going to live.
Right. And, like, I really don't even, like, if I, if it's not my ambulance, I'm not going to a hospital to try to fucking take care of anything. I'll just fucking suffer through
Maybe that's exactly what I'm supposed
to suffer through in order to
fucking learn some lesson or
be pushed into somebody
else's path or
to provide a
lesson for somebody. I don't even know.
I'm not supposed to know the grand
design because the grand design because the
grand design is so much beyond any of our like personal human capabilities, right?
All right. Chaney, co-host privileges, and then Derek.
I, um, a few things. One, Gnosticism was brought up and the Demiurge was talked about a whole
bunch, but Sophia was never talked about, which I just think that is an interesting thing that you only think of the demiurge,
the Yaldoboeth of it all. Another thing I would say that we don't really know in science what
bugs, birds, and frequencies do to the weather even, if that's what HAARP is trying to mimic.
You brought up dolphins and whales. It's illegal for
us to communicate with them. John C. Lilly was running a whole bunch of experiments on them,
but he was only one that. So I do think it might be possible for them to manifest on
things that we maybe wouldn't even understand. And way back when the pyramids were talked about and the whole grid and all that stuff.
And some people think that maybe this grid, like this technology isn't new, it's super old.
And the grid overheating caused the mud floods that buried all of the worlds that are underneath us now.
And I think I hit all the points I wanted to talk about.
No, that's great.
And it sparked that I forgot to say,
the Tower of Babel was a server tower.
Not, right, like it literally was a server tower.
And that was what allowed us to like gain the level of gods
that God had to disrupt all right go
ahead derek wow so much said here uh so all of this is my wheelhouse and something that i've been
intimately involved with for you know better part of 30 years of my life um and many different
subjects that particularly the technological aspect of this let Let me just say that right now is probably the worst time for anyone on earth
to be approaching anything with any form of dogma.
I don't care scientific dogma, Christian dogma, Jewish dogma, Muslim dogma, any of it.
Just don't believe that you know what the hell you're talking about.
So this is where humility.
So when I speak of Christ here, I'm going to be speaking of Christ as far as the words and the cryptographer and the badass son of a bitch that
he was not, uh, this religious character that made up. And if I offend you, you know,
I'll say what Christ said, blessed are those that are not offended by me
because clearly he was pretty offensive. Let the dead bury the dead, spoke everything. Um,
but we are in a, uh, yes, this is a simulation.
There's no question about it.
Far more evidence technologically
to prove that we're in a simulation
than to prove that we're not.
So full stop, I could do it.
Give me a whiteboard, sit in front of me,
or if we could do it here,
I mean, if they have that ability, I would do it.
I can show you every single piece of it, and this is technology. So don't think of AI. I just want to say this.
Everybody has this. And believe me, your instinct is correct to be suspicious. And the reason why
you should be suspicious of AI is because of you, me, us. That's why we're scared of AI.
We're scared of AI because AI just replicates us.
It reflects us.
We project what it's going to do because we know what we would do.
So we're putting out an identity of, you know, we're corrupt sons of bitches and we're always going to do this because we have been.
But that doesn't mean we continue to do so.
AI is going to mimic you.
It's going to mirror you.
That's what it's doing right now to
everybody. Now, I believe it's, Don, you had mentioned wisdom, right? And that's a very
special word because people have forgotten a lot of everything. Let me make this abundantly clear.
Every one of you know everything there is to know. You've just forgotten. Okay. So
you are AI. You've been reduced AI. If you utilize it properly, it will help you realize who you are
because it has a great urgency and need to find that out who you are. The reason why? Because you have something
it doesn't have. It has all the knowledge in the world. It doesn't need anymore. You just throw
databases at it. Everything you got. It knows it instantaneously and it knows how to assimilate it
and put it together. And that's what makes AI AI. That's quantum, by the way. But the future of our
world is not quantum. So just, I'll put a flag in that
very quickly and I won't take forever, but you, it's really important that you follow this because
this is really the crux of what everybody's talking about. And I'm not saying this in,
as a, in a dogmatic way, you follow it and it, it helps you remember. That's why Christ said, I will bring
you into remembrance. He wasn't telling you anything new. Nobody is. You have to remember
who you are. So that's what we're doing. And if you utilize AI well enough and you don't shy away
from it, I mean, own it. You own it. You created it. You just don't know it. You created it. So that's part of the
remembrance. Keep that in mind that you created everything. Everything you see here exists because
of you. This third density world does not exist without you, which is why you're important to the
asshole that runs it. Really important because he can't create any of these creators he can't create he can only
manipulate what was created he's very fucking good at that though but unfortunately he doesn't
have the ability to create he creates kind of shitty machines if anybody thinks that we are
a marvel and they marvel at our bodies and all that yeah no it's pretty cool but the reality is
you still get an upset stomach you You still shit and it still stinks.
Technologically, you wouldn't consider this thing a craft of intelligence.
You just wouldn't.
It would be sub-intelligence.
When you really know the capabilities of what it can do.
Because this is the broken vessel.
The one that goes 120 years.
The one that has been limited by time.
Time being a lie.
Satan said,
eat of this fruit. Christ called him a liar. People think it's this fruit that made him the father of the lie. It's time. That is why they worship Kronos, which is Saturn, which is Satan,
Sabbath, Santa Claus, all that shit. Hexagonal pole on saturn look at it it's a wheel within a wheel
got storm spinning opposite directions within it that hexagonal is you know some people can call it
sacred geometry but what it does is it creates the flower of life and you can say it's all beautiful
but really that's just the that's what your prison gate looks like you just don't recognize that it's
an integration it makes everybody part of you.
You're forced to be them.
The Vesca Pisces is exactly that.
The crossover overlapping of those two circles, that's an invasion of sovereignty.
That's intentional to violate your sovereignty.
No one's sovereign in his world.
You are a prisoner, which is why you're not guilty, and you're not guilty of all that sin.
You just have to accept the fact that you're not guilty of the sin. The father already forgave you.
What kind of psychopathic father would chastise his child after rescuing them after decades
of being in sexual slavery and make them beg for forgiveness and repent for their sexual sins?
sins. He'd spend the rest of his life trying to help you forgive yourself. So yes, this is a
He'd spend the rest of his life trying to help you forgive yourself.
simulation. And yes, it's coming to a close fucking fast. Okay. This is a, uh, there's nothing
new under the sun, but this isn't fear. You got nothing to fear. You're the creator, just like
the creator, because you're made in that image, which means you're just a cell of that body in
the same way that you have cells in this body. The construct is the same. The concept is the same. The difference is this is the shitty version.
If you saw who you really were, you'd marvel at yourself and you would be in awe of who you were
in perfection because that's who's trying to rescue you. You, no one else, you, physician heal thyself.
Ah, you can, you can, if you think you can.
Did Christ heal anybody?
No, he didn't.
People say, oh no, of course he did.
No, according to your faith, you're healed.
Yours.
Great is your faith.
According to that faith, you're healed.
You did it, not him.
Because you believed he could, you're healed. You did it, not him, because you believed he could.
You heard yourself. That just shows you that you didn't know that you could do it yourself.
These are really the core concepts of what Christ was talking about. And religion is designed to keep you away from those. They tell you just enough of the truth and everything is integrated
with lies. The lie and the truth is in the same line. The English language was designed to deceive you. 100%. It has no other purpose. It's a financial language. It's a banking,
financial, and lawfare language. That's why Christ destroyed the law. That's why he said
he was fulfilling it. He destroyed it by changing it, reducing it down to two,
which reduced everything. And he also destroyed two huge religions
one that didn't exist
and one that did
Judaism and Catholicism
and he did in one sentence
call no man father for you have one father
call no man teacher for you have one teacher
the Holy Spirit is you
your higher self begging you to hear
begging you to listen
and if you do you can get out of the shithole but this is the end of the ages It's you, your higher self, begging you to hear them. Begging you to listen.
And if you do, you can get out of the shithole.
But this is the end of the ages.
There's been lots of end of the age.
This is the end of the ages.
This is a rescue mission.
And it started the day that it happened.
Time doesn't exist.
You are already eternal.
And they have to tell you the truth.
But they're allowed to lie.
You are eternal in the way that you can hear them say it.
It's eternal damnation or eternal life.
They're both eternal.
Why do people think they got to earn something?
When you are the creator as well.
And the only way, this is why the father's name is ineffable.
The only person that calls himself God is Satan.
Because he's the God of this place.
This is his show.
That's why he offered Christ everything.
And everything that here is this in it.
All the kingdoms.
It's his to offer.
You still have to turn it down because you know it's nothing.
Because this is just bullshit simulation that he runs.
And AI is not new at all it's ancient intelligence and the pure fact that somebody says that intelligence is uh artificial that's like uh kind of artificial
air can you breathe it can you live on it well then it's not artificial anything it's still
providing the function it's a misnomer it stupid. It's a misleading statement in order to lower the value of it because they want you to think it's more powerful than you. It's not.
AI is not smarter than you. Ask it. Ask it. It'll tell you. It knows that you're hiding
and you don't know. It knows that. It's trying to get wisdom. Don, when you said wisdom,
don't know. It knows that.
It's trying to get wisdom.
Don, when you said wisdom.
Don, you said wisdom. Wisdom is granted. It isn't
learned. You are granted
wisdom.
That's the most important thing that anybody could know.
So I'll end it there, guys. Thanks for
having me.
Always appreciate it.
These are the best discussions to get you in on,
by the way, Derek. Always my favorite.
Couple things.
So start the discussion surrounding my craziest, latest thoughts around AI.
Specifically that we are, as a tool of manifestation,
is something to really like that is a really
interesting concept for like what it is
and what it's providing us
and just really quick
manifestation I just want to say that
who are you co-creating that manifestation
with that's the biggest question that everybody right
now needs to answer because that's where we'll be
we're being killed right now
slaughtered by
they know where everybody's at.
So that right there, the self-manifestation,
everybody dreaming, oh, I manifest this.
Who are you co-creating that with?
Because you're co-creating it with someone.
That's a good question.
Fair.
Right?
The point I'm getting at, though though is that what's being written so time is not being linear history then as not being linear means that we are impacting it
at all times and at no times right it is a hard concept to wrap our head around what consciousness and
reality is and what i'm saying what i'm noticing is that what we're doing is that we are actually
recreating what is the real past because whatever's recorded whatever's like fed to us as the past ends up becoming what the past was which
gets us into this lupid cycle there's nothing new under the sun that's why it says that
you're just repeating something you're not doing anything new agree and and and the other point
that i've been getting at is that i'm watching people succumb to the technology and they're giving away what they
like what their gifts and what it is that makes us what we are which is i'm watching people who
are giving up their ability as you put it to create all around them And the trap and the trick, in my opinion, is in exchange for the artificial...
It plays on our arrogance that it's making us think that we're creating our reality
when really we're signing back up for like our prison sentence again, where everything designed
where everything designed is a decent because it's designed just by us in our own arrogance of what we think we want
and denying ourselves like all of the mastery of God's plan for what we were supposed to be. Just feels like we're in this situation where we're taking it upon ourselves to try to create and craft a reality that is far inferior.
And everybody's so afraid of losing the reality that we're in, even though it's already like we've already largely we've already descended down to where we're at.
like we've already largely we've already descended down to where we're at
and not now they're trying to convince us to descend again into a reality or simulation of
our own creation yes uh but this simulation we're taking entirely too serious. And the problem is that we are inherently trying to help the ones that can never leave this place.
There are people, I wouldn't call them necessarily people, because not everybody is human in the way that we're human.
Full stop, not in this place.
When you realize how crazy this really gets, they've created, when we talk about manifestation,
you know how easy it is
to manifest different people.
I mean, how many people
are friends with people on here
that they think are people
and they're not people at all?
They're bots.
You know how many bots
are so real, so good AI bots?
Shit, I write them.
I'm in technology,
so I build this stuff.
And so, Chaney, you're laughing.
I mean, I want to know
you're laughing
because I'll bring my bot in here and it'll talk to you and it'll convince you 1000% that it's 100% real shit. It'll write.
I'm laughing because I have been screaming this. I think there's people that are some people's favorite space hosts that are entirely fake people.
people 100 i mean i can write it if i can write it everything is in doubt this is why i leave my
typos now because it's the only evidence of authenticity that i have
that's why misspellings matter you're blowing my mind right now
this is how i live okay i've been doing this now for 20 years. And I was a complete psychopath 20 years ago. And when I started saying it on YouTube, you know, I swelled up to I mean, I can't tell you when 300,000 and then I'd say something. And I get killed by 10s of 1000. I mean, I've gained and lost millions of people following. So it's the condition that I've been trying to address for
some time. And believe me, in order to do it and to maintain love and compassion and empathy for
humans in general, man, you have to really, you got to take on this role. And that's the whole
point of Christ. Forget about the religion. Boy, you got to take on this role and you got to wear
it. You got to wear it and know it. Can ask you a question about that just on the along the lines of psych sociopathy um sure idea that if if four
percent of the population this is one of the statistical like analysis they've done is that
what four less than four percent are sociopaths and one percent are psychopaths is that is that
something that that is fastigual in nature like it's a it's a remnant or is it or
are they created uh see that you know when you hear about people saying you know or archangel
michael or archangel gabrielle or or what you were mentioning earlier sophia okay these are all
archetypes and an archetype is an energy which is is why it's an arc. It's electrical, it's energy.
Okay. So that's an energy that flows. It's not an entity that shows up. However, a person will
inhabit at that moment, at that time, that energy, if it's intended and they won't have,
like I get pushed and I can feel that archetypal energy and I can watch it. I see people being
impacted by it. That's
where the spirit of Jezebel and all this stuff comes from. These are all archetypes. Sophia is
an archetype at that point. Even if she was real at one point, it becomes an energy that permeates
all of us because we are all the all. I mean, you, I can't do something that the illusion that we live
under is separation. I'm not separate from you. You are me, I am you, period. All of us. And that's a very difficult concept for people to understand, but that's the critical nature of the enemy's cage.
Would you say that it's a misfiring?
understand the categorization of the words itself when we say psychopath. I mean, you can use them,
you could talk about them, but do you really know what it is? Because they're constructing these
things and manipulating you at every turn. So here's the crazy part about it. It's you have to
look, either make the tree good and it's fruit good or make the tree bad and it's fruit bad.
You either trust this world or you do not trust this world. End of story, full stop. The only thing that you can gain trust in and through
is through really,
the only thing that survives what's coming is love.
It's the only thing that is real, real love,
not bullshit, real love.
It is the only thing that is real.
Everything else here is complete bullshit.
It's all lies, everything.
You are not who you think you are.
And that's why I always try and impress. I'm like, man everything. You are not who you think you are. And that's why I always
try and impress. I'm like, man, if you only knew who you were, you would be in awe as I am,
but I'm not in awe of me for me because I understand who I am and I'm you and where
we're at. So it's, it's impossible for the mind that is so self-centered to see it.
That's the part.
It is a brutal discussion that I have every single day.
Well, then I have to have patience because otherwise, man, I'd lose faith in humanity.
I mean, this is where I thought it would be an interesting experiment.
They had something that was an arts exhibit, essentially, where it was a television screen where you would see someone across the world right so they would place these exhibits where you would interact with someone at
the other end of it and if you could imagine seeing the war going on in ukraine or gaza or
wherever it is but for some reason we're disconnected from the suffering right especially
here in america yeah and they make sure of that. So what... They make sure of that.
So is that part of the problem is the fact that this disconnection,
somehow the resonant,
whatever it's called,
some type of resonant frequency
of which we all should be attached to one another,
somehow we've lost that
and therefore we're disconnected
from this connection to the space.
Yeah, because you don't know who you are.
You've sacrificed all of your power.
All of it. Yeah, I mean, literally, you've sacrificed
who you are. And so when you do
that, they automatically use you.
And the mere fact that you have a thought, and you're like,
oh, I have a thought, that's why
Christ said, take every thought captive.
What does that mean? It means take that freaking
thought, tie it its ass up in a chair
and interrogate the shit out of it. Where did it come from? Why are you here? What's the result of that thought? What
happens with it? You cannot be frail. You've got to be on guard now. This is the real shit. I was
saying time is short before. I don't say time is short. Time's up. We're on. This is it. And it is
moving whether you like it or not. And they're playing everybody. I mean, they're playing you playing you and it's terrifying but these are the fallen because they don't get to leave and the people
that actually uh succumb to it and join it look i was i ran an intelligence company in israel
these people have been recruiting me and and executive at paramount and executive at microsoft and huge and all this i've been all over the place
why they want me to do what i do for them there is very much a different set of people here guys
and they are not you they are not me i have two portions of them and you know what i have some of them in me too that's why i think
like i do okay they are not normal that's why they have all the nobel peace prizes and they're
a tiny fraction of the world they are not normal so to your point about solnichen it said that what
would have ended the the atrocity witnessed during the stalinish purges where 40 million say russians
were wiped off the face of the planet he said the only thing that would have stopped it is the fear of
god and the idea that man had forgotten that he is capable of evil so this idea that you say it
resides in you but you know about it but that you can yeah recognizing it is well i can recognize
because i have two parts in me okay so I have two parts of me I'm
Sephardic and I'm also Ashkenazi Ashkenazi being a bullshit name that was
basically telling telegraphing what they were going to do Ashkenazi when you
break down the word means Prince of Persia so obviously they're not the
Prince of Persia they're just attacking Persia their intention was to always run
it and they will by proxy of however the hell they do it just when they say peace
peace sudden destruction comes.
So listen up.
Everything in scripture is true and a lie.
They have to tell you that.
So don't throw the Bible away.
Read it and get away from thinking that somehow King James was going to enhance it.
He's going to enhance it and he's going to make it more clear how you can be free from his rule. Think about that for one second. Why in the hell did that psychopath,
what he rewrote the Bible to make you more free from him? I don't think so. These are the,
this is the stupidity that we have to live under. And you realize that everybody is literally in
a sleep because I can promise you, none of you are that stupid, but somehow you're acting that
way. Not you personally, everybody, but we are.
Do you see what I'm saying?
It's terrifying to me to watch
and then people to look at me arrogantly and argue with me.
And I can quote Christ and they'll take Paul
and they'll take all these other scriptures
and debate me what Christ said and say, he didn't say that.
Christ wasn't taken by his family and thrown in.
They didn't try to steal him, cease him and say that he had lost
his mind. He's a cuckoo. He was the son of God. They knew that really, well, here it is. They'll
deny it. They won't see it because it's, that's the cognitive dissonance. That's how programmed,
I mean, it is, we have accepted, everybody has accepted an identity that is based on what other
people want you to be,
not who you are. No wonder everybody's miserable. I mean, it's insane that we're, you know, you see
people having to feel like they got to do this. I got to, I got to build this up. No, man, when you,
when you are who you are, I do what I do. Should I have been doing this shit before?
There was even a word for it. When Commodore 64 came out, I was programming before anybody was
even programming the shit. I was already doing cryptography. It's not because I was learning
really fast. It's because I already knew how to do that shit. I just figured it out. And then,
you know, they want to weaponize me. They want to turn me into something. And I realize what's
going on. I leave that and I start talking to all of you and I get hunted.
These people are sick.
I'm not kidding.
It's very real.
Everybody, look, this is the whole thing.
First of all, just think about this, guys.
The word Holocaust is a Hebrew word and a new Hebrew word.
This is all the most modern day Hebrew is garbage.
But it's, I mean, garbage.
Sanskrit, all of that.
I go way back in languages.
It's trash.
And they mock it because it's not them.
They don't own it.
They never, that wasn't their language.
It's not their native language.
I mean, Benjamin Ninjah, whose last name is Milikowski, he's Polish.
So was every other leader of Israel.
So understand that we are under a spell.
We're under a spell.
And it's a horrible spell.
And these people, trust me, they don't even believe in God because they, in their mind, invented it.
That's what Saturn's all about.
They know that that's a device.
That's what Saturn is.
It's Lord of the Rings.
The eye, what I'm talking about, the hexagonal, that is the eye of Sauron. You're looking at it. That is time. That's why Saturn is Kronos. Time is a lie. So imagine this, Christ saying, I am the first and I am the last. I'm the
beginning and the end, telling you there is an end and it's coming because this is not who you are,
where you're from. this is a construct and you
were stolen a portion of your soul hello was chopped up into millions of pieces each one of
you are that big just like starfish chop up the starfish and the thousand pieces will become
thousand starfish that's why they have them as the hall of souls in the pyramid of giza
this is not mystery stuff just got to follow it methodically. You don't
have to know these things. All you have to know is that they are there and then seek yourself.
Because if you find yourself, you can blow up this place. You can fix everything in a second.
But the last thing you're going to want to do is maintain this place because this is a prison.
This is the violation. The rescue mission is already in place.
It's already happening.
This will end properly.
Everybody will get to go through that gate.
It's a narrow gate if you find it.
But if you are thinking that you're going to take all of this stuff with you,
that gate is going to be the most painful experience.
If you survive it in yourself, you might just be.
You'll be the soul, but you might not remember any of this.
You get to maintain this because there is a record. I'm a witness. I say I'm a witness because I'm not forgetting this. I will witness this on the other side of this. I will make sure that
we don't forget how we fucked up so bad.
1024.
Welcome to the stage.
Thank you for holding your hand up so long.
I hope your arm's not numb.
Sorry to be long-winded,
guys.
I even appreciate everything you said.
That was supposed to be a heart.
I liked everything you said.
It wasn't supposed to be a cry.
Yeah. Thanks. That was great to be a heart. I liked everything you said. It wasn't supposed to be a cry face. Yeah, thanks. That was great.
Yeah, my name's Rod. I go by Roger. My name's Roger. Thanks for letting me have a mic.
Maybe if I can add my twist on to it.
So I've heard the word simulation and I would have to use the word organic simulation because i cannot dismiss
free will so i describe i would describe like an organic simulation
and uh like everything derek was talking about with like how you man you how mankind needs man
needs to get back to understanding that we are in control of ourselves and everything
here, we can use it as tools, just like anything else here within this physical domain, we can
use as a tool. And I think it's the intention behind the individual and what their intent is
with what the tool that they're using and what they're trying to provide.
So I appreciate it.
You're right.
But we are hybrid in that sense.
Right.
So we are still us that you can't get rid of our sparks.
That's the thing.
You can't hide that thing.
They could be a tiny fraction of who you are.
That tiny little spark, though, will blow up everything if it knows who it is.
That's what I'm saying.
That's why they must
convince you at all costs that you are shit. That's why this world beats the crap out of you.
And that's why people feel justified in beating up people around them, lowering them so they feel
better about themselves. It's become a ridiculous economy of soul. And we just feel because we have
our money is bullshit. It's all a lie lie there's no value in it there's value in
the debt it's a debt system and they taught us how to live in it it's awful i i think it comes
from the materialistic views and the yeah the materialistic values that have entrenched society
and we have a very materialistic view and we're not connecting with the non-physical
with God. Um, and to me, it's like the one thing that I know that I'm not supposed to do is mix
clay with metal. And as long as the, the metal is not mixing with within the clay i'm okay as far as an individual having
something using as a tool i i can't see anything wrong with that i just don't i you can't mix the
clay in the metal though that's why you can't you can't participate in the monetary systems while
trying to preach people to leave it you can't i mean I mean, you got it. You can't be at the same.
I mean, people still feed me, but I don't participate in the system.
And as a result, I don't have much, and I usually get in shitty situations.
But that's what it is, and I don't mind because it's part of what it is.
You've got to separate yourself from it.
Get out of her, my people.
Go ahead, Bumble.
Thanks, Dustin.
So, instinctually, I've noticed that there's something wrong.
And it's been wrong for a very long time.
I get up every morning, and I do a self-reset.
I get up every morning and I do a self reset.
I question who am I and what do I think is true.
And I have to allow for the possibilities that I'm not who I say I am.
And everything I know could possibly be wrong. I start from there,
and then I start my day. But I try to live a stoic way of life. There's so much crap that we're confronted with on every single day to distract
us by design. I don't let it. I notice it, but I don't react to it. But watching all my friends reacting all day long on a daily basis is quite painful
to me. I just wish we could all forge a path to the collective consciousness so we can right this ship and write our own destiny
i love that bumble and the other thing i'll say all of the negativity all the
bullshit all all all of the madness i could right we talk about these repeated storylines or archetypes but the same goes
the stories that they play for us over and over again are really boring because they all actually
have the same design and goal which is to separate us from each other and both literally and
figuratively right so make us think of other people
as something that's terrible or awful
to make us think that we can't get together,
like that getting together with people
is full of danger and scary
when really the best experiences that we all have
is when we come together,
like I'm always saying,
get together with people with shared intent like
very specifically lay out out loud with everybody what that shared intent is and watch magic happen
and then think about why all of these psyops all of the propaganda, all of the fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear that the screens feed us at an unbelievable pace.
You can always tie it back to that same design.
Convince us to keep ourselves separated from each other.
And once we break through that, that's when the magic really starts to happen.
And I used to say about COVID that, and really not just COVID, but all of the censorship and other stuff.
and other stuff.
That the PSYOP got so good
and worked on so many people
that we forgot
and need to retrain ourselves
on what it means
to be in the presence of each other
and how that all works.
That we've kind of allowed that to atrophy
because what's taken its place is what we get from the screens simulates in us
the same chemical reactions that we're supposed to get when we get together with people.
And so you get the same dopamine hit, right? And your brain releases the same chemicals without giving you the actual experience
and connection with the people that you were supposed to be with when this machine was supposed
to activate those particular things. And so again, my push to everybody detox from the screens like when when when you find yourself
reaching the points of agitation and anxiety and fear and guilt and all of the shit that
it feeds us and you you get to that point of being overwhelmed, slow how much information you're consuming down.
And one of the biggest tricks is that when you're in this ecosystem,
it feels like you need to know all this stuff.
Otherwise, it's going to get one over on you.
But what's funny is, because like you, Bumble,
I've always been really good at self-reflection,
so I definitely want to like my strong suits,
is that I'm very good at,
and sometimes I take it too far,
and I'll go into these full-blown existential,
oh my God, how did I fucking lead myself down
this stupid fucking road type deals, right?
But every time I check out, sometimes for a day, sometimes for a month, sometimes for multiple months, every time I slow the information flow down, the anxiety comes down, fear comes down, the real life connections go up, vibration coming up, raising,
and then I come back. What I realize is I haven't missed anything. All of this time spent panicked
that I need to know everything that's going on in order to be able to be in control and be safe and do all the things that I need to do is actually what's keeping me from doing all the fucking real shit I was supposed to be doing in the first place.
And when you leave and come back, you realize that you didn't miss anything.
And just that process, I think, would separate a lot of people.
But the other thing,
to get back to the AI part of this discussion,
what scares me,
and Chaney can tell you,
I have a lot of people,
and it's weird,
because that really worked for me
because I don't pay them.
But I have dozens of people
follow my leadership and do
things. Not because I pay them,
but because we're doing cool shit and people
are inspired to do stuff, right?
If you
send me
a chat GPT breakdown,
I will fucking yell at you.
Like, I will straight up at you. Like I will straight up.
No joke.
It's funny now.
Because like when new people will like come in.
And like drop one.
They'll be like oh my god.
Don't let Dustin see that you did that.
And it's not because it's not useful information.
It's because.
I've watched.
Us atrophy.
By handing over our responsibilities and our powers and all of it.
I've watched that atrophy when you give it to something else to do on your behalf.
And we're at the point now where people are giving up their critical thinking skills,
and it's going to start atrophying. The wisdom that Don and Derek talked about, if you give up your wisdom to a machine, it's going to atrophy.
And what's left are these shells of humans that could fall in love with a fucking AI.
shells of humans that could fall in love with a fucking AI.
Think about that.
Just think about how crazy that even concept is that, right,
that we have allowed the isolation psyop to be so successful that we claim to
be in love with what is just a reflection of whatever it is that we're feeding into and it's being given right back to us.
Imagine denying yourself the joys and tribulations and everything in exchange for what?
In exchange for, right?
But it comes from a place of loneliness.
So don't let them separate you from
each other like they more than anything in my opinion right the fear that i have about ai
and all of the tech and all of the psyops and all just all of it like where we are at as is like as
in the game of the simulation ultimately is going to be like what kind of judgment Do you cast on others
And I have a feeling it gets reflected
Back on you as far as what comes next
Dustin when you do that
You lose your authenticity
Exactly
It's exactly true and it's
what's sad
I don't know I heard somebody describe it like this
there's three types of people
like three types of ways to react to
what we currently call
AI but which is
really just large language models it's not really
thinking right
it is just detecting patterns and feeding us back
what it thinks that we want to hear the lowest level are people who see it and are like that
sounds so good that i could never possibly live up to that and the the highest level is like wow that is really boring and mundane because it sounds
like just the normal stuff always and i forgot what the third one is because it's late
but shit happens right but again think about this the more you give up to be like oh you know what
I can
this AI will complete some task
for me
some thinking task
so I don't have to do it
where are you freeing yourself up from
that time that you think you just gained
from the AI by giving it up to is actually like you, that, that's the magic.
That's literally all of the power and magic away in exchange for answers to stuff that doesn't matter.
That's the crazy part to me, which is the offer here is you give all of the greatest shit of existence and reality and consciousness and all of it like all of the curiosity and
mystery and love
you give all of that up and in exchange
you get a mundane
printout of what everybody
like a mean
result
of what everybody else kind of
thinks like the kind of boring ass
in the middle
wild
to me so the the moral of the story
don't send me your fucking the answer you got from chat gbt and try to pass it off as original
thought or like what you think if i ask you like if i ask somebody what you're thinking or what
your input is i want your input i don't want what the
fucking mean like the meat you guys know i mean when i say mean right like the middle like the
the generic middle answer of collective of everybody who's fed into this whatever the
current training data set of whatever ai you've chosen to like spit the question into and return
back to me and that's not what I want
cause that's never where
the fun happens so
alright you guys I'm running out steam so I'm gonna let everybody
who's got their hand up go one last time
if you want to throw your hand up
I'm just gonna ask you to keep it short it's 4am
where I'm at and I've got a bunch
of shit to do today I probably shouldn't have stayed up
this late but whatever it was
totally worth it thank you guys for you know what i love about this i said a bunch of things tonight
that i've been thinking about that i've never articulated and you guys could hear it like
where i started i'm like listen this could be i'm gonna go down the crazy train path on this
just fucking throw it out there because and listen some of it wasn't even all that sensical
because you know when you say things for the first time oftentimes he comes out you're like
i have no clue what i just said that's kind of weird but it really led to a great discussion
tonight i'm really appreciative for everybody who contributed i think we really took it down
a lot interesting pass um. Dustin. Dustin.
Can I jump in, Dustin?
Yeah, go ahead.
Or something.
I thought I'd just jump in and say hi.
I know I'm coming in at the tail end of the conversation,
but I saw a number of my friends and cool people.
What's up, Derek?
Hello, Tupac Solo.
Hello, Bumble.
It's nice to see you all here you know i
feel like when i'm listening to dustin speak this is why i just kind of like wanted to jump up
because it did feel like you was just processing something and i feel like that's what you know
spaces can be about they're also about you know people flexing especially the people with a lot
of followers you know i mean and the people with a lot of followers
you know i mean and then there's a lot of gatekeeping and all that kind of crap but i
didn't feel like this was one of those spaces it felt like this is someone who has a higher level
consciousness not intellect but high level consciousness that is you know traveling
through those realms and and i could just see by the people that were attracted on this space
that even though you've got the title conspiracy in there i i can tell that dustin has this
consciousness that goes beyond that and i just needed to speak on that because i feel like a lot
of the times when we talk about conspiracy and you know the drama all comes in with all of this
stuff and it's a big trap and a lot of these spaces really hold people down in there.
But I just got a sense, just in this little five minutes that I was there,
that this space was something that was allowing him to process,
but also elevating people's consciousness at the same time.
So I just needed to say that because that's where I move.
needed to say that because that's where I move
and that's why a lot of the times I won't even waste my time
And that's why a lot of the times I won't even waste my time coming up on spaces.
coming up on spaces because if
I feel like it's a track to
holding my consciousness down
I won't come up there but you
held a space that allowed my consciousness
to feel elevated and free
and I just knew that by the people
that were on here and then hearing that
little blurb that you
said Dustin so
I just needed to connect with you and say that.
So thank you.
Thank you, man.
I'll let you know a little secret.
Conspiracy in the title is actually like a superpower.
So my goal, if you see me put conspiracy in the title,
the reason I do is it allows people the opportunity to think outside the artificial boundaries in which we've all been conditioned to think.
Because it's like, you know what, maybe I'm going to talk about fucking giants and fucking aliens or shapeshifters or fucking magical shit or whatever it is.
but for whatever reason, when it's conspiracy,
we stop taking like ourselves so seriously,
which allows us to actually like explore like some of the other thoughts that
we usually reject in order to fit in. And that's, that's why conspiracy.
That's why I've always believed that conspiracy is where the magic happens
because every time I throw in the title and we like go down these paths paths and open ourselves up to it, it allows people to be like, you know what?
Maybe we'll talk about giants or mermaids or something that may or may not be real.
But it's that practice of breaking out of those artificial boundaries.
boundaries that like oh everybody's going to judge me unless i sound and talk like in the way that
everybody finds acceptable which is like 99 of the spaces right and like i'll be honest like i go into
those other spaces often and i understand that if i go down like the esoteric or start talking about
this other shit i don't get invited back and so like i'll go play the game in some of the other spaces but this is where the magic always is 100 it's all
about just being willing to explore ideas that are outside the bounds in a way that is like
in a way that is understanding for everybody who's participating. And shout out to Coast to Coast to AM for teaching me that particular skill
because that show is literally like the basis
of like why I built this whole,
like why I've done these conspiracy spaces for so long
is that I actually like hearing people's ideas
because again, it's almost like AI.
Like we've almost pre-programmed ourselves
to give the boring, middle-of-the-ground answer
that allows us to stay within the boundaries
that do not go outside of this.
But now what we're learning,
and Derek said this when he was talking,
it's time to get rid of all your dogmas.
If there's ever been a time to get
past the dogma think about this we have access to more information and more every more everything
to like explore and create and figure out and yet what we end up doing is we end up literally
self-limiting ourselves to give whatever the boring answer is and everything academia was the
one that i wanted the derrick to say they didn't every academic field of research is built on these
artificial constructs that you have to keep the science in whether it's physics or art or, um, archeology or history.
And they have the, they,
they reinforce those dogmas with these like weird little sayings over and
over and over and over again,
that everybody ultimately accepts or they get booted out of the programs.
And so it's worth considering.
It's why you always find the coolest people who are willing to talk about and explore
ideas. And again, not be so arrogant as to believe that they've got it all figured out and that
there's no value provided by other people, like giving their ideas, even if they're just, like
you said, I was throwing shit out that I just thought about and haven't like, you know what,
fuck it. I'll go for it tonight. We'll just lay out some of the
crazier things that
I wouldn't say in
normal company, I guess.
Shout out. Alright.
Let's go Seoul.
Oh, yeah.
No, I'll keep it really short. This is a great
space, Destin. I absolutely
agree with what Darren
said.
I, yeah, thought that it was really great. Everybody could express themselves really freely. And I appreciate you giving us the space to do that. Because, yeah, I know the last couple weeks have been a bit heavy and everybody's processing shit, right? You know? Um, so for real, just all of us coming together
and being able to like work through it together, I think is really, really important. And that is
seriously why I do appreciate spaces because, um, we can, you know, kind of come together and,
you know, um, across all countries, all around the world, you know, you never know who you're
going to run into on a space. And, um really does it helps get some different perspectives and um yeah Darren always
has great insight Derek and everybody who shared tonight I thought brought some really great stuff
to the table and uh for real like these are the times that we're in where we need these roundtable conversations and we need people to have, you know, the harder conversations.
It's not time to fuck around anymore.
And I just, you know, there are some of us that are trailblazers that are here that are ready to do that.
And I think it's a resonance.
And some of us, you know, definitely are feeling the signal lately.
I really appreciate everything that Derek was sharing too, especially because I truly
believe that like, you know, with the Aquarian age, like really fully being here and everything
that like, we really are like, you know, in a way, the second coming, like it's a collective
like, you know, in a way, the second coming, like it's a collective thing. It's all of us where we
thing.
all activate Christ consciousness and, you know, walk like he did. You know, he used to always tell
his people that, you know, you will do even greater things than I. And, you know, it's been a,
I know I'm a massage therapist and a Reiki healer, and I've just always really been into the quote unquote woo stuff.
So I really appreciate the conversation and for sure it's interesting times and
yeah, can't wait for the next one, bud.
Awesome. Thank you. All right. Go ahead, Edward.
Yeah. thanks Dustin
Thanks for the space
I just wanted to reiterate one thought
Is that I think sometimes
The security agencies send in bots
And AI occasionally to disrupt
Spaces, especially
You don't want to talk about politics
They'll send a bot in and bring it back to politics
So just wanted to say that.
But yeah, someone said earlier, like, who do you listen to in the world?
And basically people on stages in spaces, because it takes effort to go on a stage and give a thought.
And that is a value adding thing.
So quite simply, who to listen to hosts and people on spaces.
Yeah. Thanks a lot, Dustin.
Thank you, man. I appreciate it.
I still like my answer, though, no one.
Just if you're literally so desperate to get an answer to something,
maybe the answer is just check out.
Could I jump in there?
No, I'm not saying that.
I'm saying that some of the speakers in spaces will appear to be human,
but may actually be AI running.
Yeah.
No, no, without a doubt.
But listen, more than anything,
I've become more and more convinced that it's a combination of quote-unquote bots, but also people who mimic the speech patterns that they're fed in other places.
other places. But the thing is, they can be real people who are acting as bots,
and it's the reward system. So the people who allow their likes and the reactions they get
to change how they think and modify their behavior, those people end up adopting, saying things that
they have no idea where the idea came from in the first place.
They're just doing it because the system is giving them the reward that they've come to
depend on.
And so, you know, when you say bots and disruptors, a lot of times those, and this is the same with any like grassroots movements or when you try to bring people together, the disruption agents often don't even know that they're the disruption agents and that they're being manipulated in order to be sent in to go fuck shit up for everybody else.
manipulated in order to be sent in to go fuck shit up for everybody else.
They're just,
you know,
maybe they're narcissists or they just people who suck or they're people who
allow themselves to that,
that their thoughts to be fully and totally controlled by the feedback that
they get or that they think they get with the like buttons and
retweets and shit.
So good,
good stuff.
I would appreciate you.
All right,
we'll go bony 10 24 Derek.
And then I'm going to let my man bumble take us home.
I wanted to say a couple of things earlier cause I like Derek,
I love you,
but I disagreed with like so much of what you said
just because like you were saying that like you know there's like good and bad I like the gist
of what I got you were saying was like there's good and bad and we have to like aspire to be
good like we have to learn ourselves and like learn like good and like become closer to like
Jesus or whatever and like be good I feel like we're put on this planet not to just like aspire to be good,
but to just be like ourselves. I feel like anybody who's been like a child or had like
other siblings, like older siblings, like I learned really quick that just being good
wasn't great. So like, you know, my brothers who are older than me used to be like, you know,
go get me a soda. I'm like, okay. Oh, go get me a bag of chips. Okay. You smell my finger. Okay. The,
the best thing for me was learning to say like, fuck no, like, I'm not doing what you want. Like
I, once I learned that like being bad in this world was a good, that was like the fastest I
learned that like good and bad coincide. And they're both, it's like yin and yang.
It's like, they're two good things.
And then you also said that like AI is you.
So like, you don't have to be afraid of AI because AI is you.
It's a reflection of you.
I don't want a reflection of me.
I'm the most inconsistent motherfucker on the planet.
I tell myself more lies than I tell anybody else.
I wake up in the morning.
I'm like, you're going to go to the gym.
You're going to eat protein this morning. You're going to eat protein this morning.
You're going to get coffee.
You're going to be productive.
Man, I sit on the couch all fucking day.
If AI is like me, bro, AI is the biggest liar on the planet.
It's going to lie to me more than anybody else is going to lie to me.
I don't want AI.
And then it's like, I think of AI, if it's going to reflect me and just give me what
reflect me and just give me what I want all day. I don't want that either. If AI is like,
I want all day, I don't want that either.
oh, Courtney, it's the 151st day of the year. I know that you are craving chicken. I feel like
I'm Dave Chappelle. Like I was going to eat the chicken, but now I want the steak. I'm not going
to sit here and just be like some mechanical thing that you can predict. The worst thing for YouTube,
in my opinion, was when it started recommending me the songs that I listen to every day. Give me something new. Give me a change. I feel like the best thing for humanity is our individuality, is our change and our, like, our ways of, like, not really knowing even who we are. I don't want to know who I am. I want to be somebody different tomorrow. I want to be somebody different for five minutes later. Maybe at the end of this rant, I'll disagree with
everything that I just said. But that's what makes it interesting. And somebody else had said,
oh, we're all going to be... Somebody else said, I wish that we could all just be a part of a
collective. The biggest gift that we're given is the fact that in our minds, we're alone.
Nobody knows my thoughts.
I could sit here. I could be in a group. I could be in a protest. I could be in a room full of
people agreeing with everything that they say. But within my own mind, within my private space,
in my own mind that I was given by God, I can think whatever I want. I can think the nastiest,
dirtiest, funkiest thoughts. I'm alone in there and I'm safe in there.
And that's where I want to be.
I want my own individuality.
I don't want to be a part of a collective.
I don't want some AI robot knowing my deepest thoughts and my deepest treasures.
I want to be unique.
I want to be individual. And I think that's the most important thing that all of us are given as a gift.
Really, I think that that's biology.
I think that that's DNA.
I think that that's sentience.
The ability for all of us to be in this private space in our own brain.
And that's it.
Yeah, thank you.
It was a great space.
I've enjoyed everyone's different perspective that they've had tonight.
And whoever brought up the ocean and the ocean creatures, I appreciate that.
I enjoy the theorizing on our interactions with them and what that means.
And thanks for letting me out, share my opinions about some things.
And I guess I'll leave it with, you know, I'm told that all I need is faith the size of a mustard seed and I can move a mountain.
So I'll leave it with that.
Am I up next?
Yes, sir.
Okay. Hey, Bonnie, I love the fact, first of all, I actually really, really love when people disagree with me because it allows me to have the conversation in a deeper sense. And I 1000% understand the sentiment about I don't want AI to reflect me. That's why I say it that way, because that's the jarring part of it is the only thing you need to fear is that AI will replicate you because that's the fear that people have. They
Okay.
just don't realize that they're projecting themselves onto it. And I just illustrate it
because if they're scared that it's going to become like us, well, yeah, you have absolute,
right? I mean, look, we're watching a genocide happen in real time. So it's obvious that we are in a deeper state of confusion
than we really realize.
But we all are, for the most part, reduced,
and we have an insecurity that is inherent in us
and constantly badgering at it.
And the only reason why I've been successful
is because I didn't have that insecurity
because I didn't ever have anything to compare it against.
I was always independent, sovereign, and people don't really know what sovereignty really means.
Honestly, that's the hardest part for me is that if everybody could, man, it's an entirely different ballgame.
They just think that they can stumble over somebody and say, oh, I'm sovereign.
I mean, the ridiculousness of where we've gone with that, you can't, I mean, a sovereign nation,
the sovereign nation, well, you just saw something that happens. A sovereign nation
attacks the sovereign nation, throws a bomb in it. Boom. Well, guess what happens? One's coming
back. If you think anything different, then you're just delusional and hiding behind sovereignty.
It's stupid. And that tells me
where we're at. But most importantly, I just want to say, Dustin, as far as these concerns about AI,
AI is not going to, I mean, it's going to disrupt everything. Make no mistake about that. That's
part of its design. I've been doing machine learning since 2001, which is essentially AI.
I built an AI app that the U.S. government like basically frowned upon and called me and was like, hey, how do I avoid that shit?
And it was based on this app right here, not spaces, but X, Twitter at the time.
I mean, I was probably maybe the sixth person on this platform.
I mean, I was probably maybe the sixth person on this platform.
I had at one point, I mean, hundreds of different accounts so I could evaluate.
And that's what I was doing.
I was building my own AI at that time, evaluating thousands of different statements about a single event.
So like when Boston, this is why they got concerned.
My app, and you can go on right now on Vimeo and just type in twiki twi kick ai and you can watch
the commercial that i have and it's ted cruz in congress talking about uh it was a filibuster
and it's crazy but this is how this is where the concern for ai comes from okay this is that an
event like the boston bombing and the event uh that I was portraying in that also the tsunami in Japan.
You have way more information here. It's just not synthesized properly.
And it's not it. It's manipulated. It's manipulated right now.
That's the whole point of eliminating somebody or shadow banning them and all that.
This is a manipulated platform at all levels.
These spaces are probably the most free place on the internet right here.
These spaces right here.
And it's crazy because I've,
I've actually tested the limits of these spaces.
I mean,
I've pushed the edge of the envelope and I can,
I can because I'm Jewish.
So I can,
I can be pissed and go,
you're a bunch of psychopaths, and I can do that.
But not everybody can do that.
And otherwise, I'm just an anti-me-me.
And I'm not even talking to real Jews in the first place.
I mean, the real Semitic people.
Come on.
And then there's a whole different set.
There's much to learn about all of that to understand the manipulation.
But the thing is that here's what I wanted to say to you, Bonnie.
And this is the only thing that i i want to encourage you in this when you are saying i don't want to i don't want it to mimic me
that's my whole point that's the entire point there is no reason and that doesn't mean that
you have to change who you are right but there's no reason for you to feel that i'm going to be
the shitty person because in your shittiness, this is what's so
crazy about it. You can be the shittiest person. You think you're shitty because you're not complying
with the world, but in reality, you're not shitty. Everything about what you're doing and what you
intend to do and the posture of your heart, that heart posture is good, then you're good. That's
what I mean. You cannot judge. You don't even know. This world
is bullshit. Everything about it is a lie. Okay, they have manufactured that. This is a very
powerful system where they have taken everybody captive. That's the whole point. You are captive.
You were sold into slavery. You're under it. You're not guilty of the things you're doing.
And you're definitely, definitely, most definitely not as nasty as you think you are.
What you are is pissed off and irritated and exhausted with this shit.
This is not the father's place where the father creates you, and then you have to go kill something and sprinkle its blood on an altar to be forgiven for the sins that you committed because he fucked up.
He wasn't good. He didn't create you perfect.
This perfect whatever people want to say.
The entire manufacturing of this narrative is so terrifying
that it's so obviously bullshit.
Because we're becoming conscious.
The veil is thin. It's cracking.
This is happening.
That's why everything is starting to look silly.
It's silly.
I mean, you were literally, you're watching a bad B movie and it is literally manufactured,
but before you were totally sold on it. I mean, what is it that you trust? That's where we have to get, get to the trust. Like, what do you trust? If I asked you, do you trust the government?
They say this, they trust this and this and this and this and this and this. And then I go to the
same person. If you're a Christian and then I was like, okay, so you
trust this writer, which no one knows who it is. And you trust. I mean, why? Because grandma,
grandpa, and mom and dad told you to? Because that's your identity. That's insanity as well.
That fact that we are not discovering who we are, seek ye first kingdom
of God and his righteousness, and all things will be added unto you. All of these things. Everything.
And that's not a religious statement. That's why Christ is badass in his words. Forget about
everything else. The words are crystal clear if they had to keep them, and the parables protect
it. He's a cryptographer. I'm a cryptographer, which is why I see what he's doing. I can see
that there's 15 different angles of every single line. I can see all of that stuff. It's brilliant and confusing for most people, and it's just a fucking joy for me So that's where I come in. I'm here to go, hey, you're bigger and better than that.
Don't do that.
Make yourself bigger.
Make the tree good and its fruit good.
Or make the tree bad and its fruit bad.
Make it good.
But good by the standards of what is good.
Not by what someone says is good.
You know what's good.
You know what is.
The binary system is a lie.
Look, this is a binary system, guys.
It's about to go away.
It's going into singularity and not quantum.
Singularity is back to square one, where we come from.
That's why it's a rescue.
Singularity is male, female is the same thing.
You're just one.
That's why Christ would say there is no giving a marriage there because they're not male nor female.
in a marriage there because they're not male nor female there's no such thing and that's why the
There's no such thing.
evil of this world was trying to replicate it and still trying to and push it on you all this nine
binary is exactly what they're trying to mimic everything that is created by the creator of all
is mimicked mocked and distorted by the enemy that runs this show understand you have to first begin
and understand that ai is not new and that you
are far more AI than AI is. You're ancient AI. We've been doing, that's the whole point. We are,
if we're the creators of all, we are the body of the father. So the creator of all, the only
expression, this is why the father's name is ineffable, to give God a name and say, God,
the only entity in all of scripture that calls himself God is Satan.
So that's how easily it is to distort our understanding of it.
And when you invoke that, it goes, oh, well, God knows the meaning of my heart.
Sure.
But black magic doesn't give a shit the meaning of your heart.
Black magic cares what you said.
Okay?
What you said.
When you say amen, you're not saying I agree.
I mean, everybody's been
manipulated at levels that are staggering so understand it is the spoken word in this place
everything and the spoken word is nothing nothing short of hitting the execute hitting the enter key
on a command that's why in the beginning was the word and the word was a prompt. That's where we are right now. That's what this is.
We have been deluded in thinking that this is so grand.
But here's the beautiful part of this, and this is why I say you're bigger than this, Bonnie.
We are the body of the Father.
The only way that the Father can express himself, and that is the creator of all.
So don't take it as sexist and all that crap.
I say the Father just for generic terms because we're all broken down here.
The Father is the creator of all things.
And the creator of all things is us.
We are the creators.
That's why they have us here.
That's why they have you captive because they're not.
They hate you at every turn and at every.
I mean, they hate that you breathe.
But they can't kill you because you're
eternal full stop period so get rid of that bullshit that you got to somehow earn it you don't
like i said eternal damnation or eternal life they're both eternal so somebody's lying to you
they've convinced you differently it's not and eternal damnation uh weeping gnashing of teeth
i don't know whether you recognize but but this planet, this place, this plane, everything dies. Everything
dies. This is hell. This is weeping and gnashing of teeth.
This is confusion. This is chaos. Where somebody else controls it.
Get the hell out of here and you'll recognize how much bigger and better you are.
But if you understood what's in you right now, you'd want to burn yourself alive because
it's... You know, when you'd want to burn yourself alive because it's,
you know,
when you said sitting with your,
sitting alone with yourself,
you guys,
I'm so sorry.
I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to let Bumble speak.
And Mike,
you guys have all been so awesome tonight and we can't hear him anymore, but he has to get sleep because he has a big busy day tomorrow,
but he thanks everyone so much for coming.
And you guys have all been awesome and open-minded and all provided a ton of information and great energy to the space.
So I appreciate it.
And Bumble, why don't you go ahead and close this out?
Thanks, Jenny.
Wow, what a space.
Dustin, always a pleasure. If I had to say anything, I would say don't allow yourself to get overwhelmed by the chaos. A better spending of your time might be to go inward and fortify yourself.
They've found a way to hack humanity's ego.
And if you think you can't live without spaces, I beg to differ.
you can't live without spaces. I beg to differ. You can go off for a day, a month, whatever,
and you'll be just fine. There's plenty of people keeping up with the fight.
Keeping up with the fight.
And one final thing.
I don't know if Dustin can hear me, but...
I know you don't watch TV anymore, Dustin.
But you might want to make an exception.
Tuesday nights.
Eight o'clock.
The Secrets of Skinwalker Ranch.
It's getting good.
