Welcome everybody. How are you doing, Wicker?
Hi, yeah doing great. How are you? Nice nice. I'm doing good. So I'm Edwin here with Orbital Command, but Dr. Daskoyne will be joining us in a minute and that way he can
and conduct the interview today just trying to get to know your project and hopefully we get some people to join us and learn and if they have questions they can also join requests and that way they can get the answers they're looking for.
Yeah, lovely. Been looking forward to the AMAs. But I think last time I'll talk with Dr. Also, a few weeks, a few months ago. Lovely to be here again.
There he is, we gotta head mom now.
Can you hear us, Dr. Dossquan?
There we go, I can hear you now, I can hear you loud and clear mate. How you doing there, Edwin and how you doing there, wicked money?
Hey, hey, yeah, excited to be here. I think last time I'm talking as Queen with you on the our first vision of the week. Certainly. Yeah, that was a little while ago now and I'm really looking forward to hearing. Well, I've been
playing around just first and foremost. I've been playing around with Wicker this morning which I'm really enjoying and I'm looking forward to discussing this more with you over the next hour. Just before I do any of that, I'm just looking at a message you've sent me. We've got someone else that you want to bring up Ken. Ken Wicker
Luna. Are they on the call yet? Yeah. I'll shake with him a second. Fantastic. Yeah, whenever they come up, it went if you can bring them up as a speaker that'll be fantastic. And in the meantime, it went as well. I would love
but if there's a way to pin one of the most recent tweets from Wicker on this year, just so people have an easy link to go and use Wicker as a call. I think this call is going to probably evade me a bit of a walkthrough as we're talking about it today, just because
There are a few different tabs and pages to use on the new site. If anyone is playing along at home that is wanting to mint their own coins, you could theoretically do it while we're on this call today. I know that I've just minted my own thousand
So I'd love to have everyone else experience that because it is quite fun. But while we're waiting for the last gentleman to jump up, I'm just going to shoot through a link as well into our discord and see if we can get some people out from the discord.
with that being said, that's enough of me chatting away and introducing all of this. We're going to bend our here because a little bit over on OK with that.
try and wrap it up within the next hour. And so let's just dive in for a second. Hit me with your elevator pitch, sir, on What is Wicker 2.0?
Yeah sure, thanks for the intro. So last time we got what's trying to do like another leverage for a call for Terra to Terra one. We take a break after like we decided not to launch it, but now you
back we're seeing that there could be a lot more builder coming back to Terra to a one day and another onboarding more projects so what we got what we're trying to do is that we want coders
non-corders or anyone would love to try and experiment on launching their own projects. And token is the basics of WebTree projects. That is why we create a single platform where you can think of like a launching a token within field
click, "Racing Fund", lock your tokens, burn the tokens, and drop it to your community without a single code of line. So that is our vision and it can be permissionless, meaning that everyone can make it within the
second and our target hope to be a new wave of figures that we love to experiment doesn't know how to code yet and yeah I hope like everyone that think about launching a token will think about us in the future yep
Yeah, I'm sure they will once this is all set and done and we've sort of talked over all of the moving parts because there are quite a few moving parts of this and I think once we've shed some light and gained some clarity and perspective on it. Most people will definitely want to get on there and try it out for themselves. As I said, I did mint my thousand dos coins just before
and it was actually a really easy experience and just kind of really as someone who's not a coder, right? As someone who I'm not a developer, I'm not a coder, I don't really know how to read it. There was a bit of a thrill in just looking at it on the blockchain after I'd done it and being like, "Hey, I literally just minted
in the space of, you know, probably one minute to two minutes. I had a thousand docks coins viewable on the blockchain. So that was really cool. And so of course, you had, you know, an old product with the original Wicker. You mentioned just before we really dive into the new Wicker, there
was a tweet pre-collapse. So the collapse was around, I believe it began on the 10th of May, I don't think I'll ever forget that day. But I brought forth you were already putting out the message and I remember there was a message between us as well where you basically said you weren't sure what was happening with Wicker in
upcoming future. This is pretty collapse. And obviously that NFT was being canceled and there was a, you know, I'm really saying this in things about some TVL growth issue and a few bits and pieces. Are you able to just illuminate for a second what happened there? Yeah, sure, sure. Lovely to talk about that as well. Yeah.
So, get back a bit like a week launch, trying to do another stable coin like the Eberkha da Ba on the Tera one and we do like collateralization model, we run some simulations and
back then we figured it out on the core of how the stable coin work, we landed code and simulated. And we found something about like, you could destroy our stable coin token using like, feel among
of dollar than we expected. Let's say like 200k dollars and our tokens can be off-picked really easily because like we didn't plan to launch the liquidity mining since day one. Instead we used the NFT to respond and provide liquidity.
Having said that and we haven't figured it out the best way to solve the pact. That's why we want to defer and cancel the NFT because having investor and community funds in our hand without like solid problems.
solving, it could be risked, anyone money so that's why we can solve. But yeah, feel free to ask more questions about it. I think it's kind of like good luck for us as well, like if we launch it in a way, it's gonna be collapse and
Yeah, we just get lucky to put it all out before anything happens. Yeah, Hansard is always 20 and it's you know, you can always look back and at the time it might have seemed like a top decision and now I think there'd be a part of you that's probably grateful that it happened when it did and it's what it's done as a
that's paved the way and allowed, you know, a new, a new Phoenix to rise from the ashes here. And so I actually personally think that this is going to be a really great venture for you. And so, you know, you've got a team of how many people are at Wicker that are working on this?
Actually it's around three developers. We have like one or two business guys and one marketing and one designer. So less than 10. We've been like work hard for like a few weeks, few months already. Yeah, quite sure.
But we built stuff fast. Yeah, well evidently you've shipped this fairly quickly and obviously you made the pivot quickly and you know, I think the question is for all people that have used launch pads in the past, what would you say is the main point of difference?
Is it the fact that it is permissionless? Is it the fact that it doesn't require users to know any coding? Is there anything else on top of that? What do you have to say about the sort of difference between yourself and other launch cards that people may have used on Terra 1?
going to be quite permissions so that means the projects that doesn't really be big project can launch faster. Let's say that you are wanting to launch projects about like social tokens that you require community to working on tokens. Normally you might need
to find spy contact guys hiring them build trust between the project owner and blockchain engineer right those kind of stuff are the barrier that blocked the new wave of projects let's say you want just maybe like 10
people want a larger token and experimental with it like create a small investment dials doing many small things normally if you go to the launch pad they require some documentation KVIC etc. So I think this
permission that version can onboard many use chase maybe like your NFT projects and you just want to add rock tokens for your community you can launch tokens here rest more fun and there will be liquidity for trading so
that it's the best part is that it's no quote throughout the whole journey. And that's the vision that we see that, okay, we can onboard more projects. Interesting one, big or small, we don't care. The permission let the WebP features of it help this way.
Yeah, there will be a reason that anyway like people trying to do like We had projects cam projects, but we will try to ensure and let the message out that hey We are permission. So that's mean you need to do your own research more when you invest or
I'm trying to out the token that launched our on our own. Yeah. Yeah, I'm a big fan of the permissionless way of going. I think whenever I see something that is requiring some sort of KYC, I tend to just as a knee jerk reaction, kind of just exit the page and move on with my life.
We, you know, the considerations are that people need to be more accountable and have more, I guess, responsibility of doing their own due diligence and making sure that whatever they're interacting with isn't nefarious or isn't malevolent and intentioned. And so, you know, with that,
With that being said, I've noticed you had your audits done by SAP. SAP tend to be doing great work. Have you had other auditors working on WCA? Not as of now. We received the first report from SAP.
It's quite not a major fix but we will fix it by next week hopefully and there is no major risk on our contract from SCV report. As time go by yeah we will be quite small but as time go by if we want to make sure every
works great and more people use it. Using other audit, a second or third one would be trying to have more people use it without risk and care fee to use it more.
100% and so if anyone who is wanting to use it let's sort of talk and through it a little bit now about how it works You know there's as I said there's a lot of moving parts and a lot of it is I think for me At first the confusion was around the language, you know There's a lot of different language of it. We're talking about quests. We're talking about mana points. We're talking about
about, you know, we had these characters of apprentices and dungeon novices and all and potion ears. And so let's try and simplify that a little bit for anyone that's currently listening and playing along at home and let them know sort of how this works. So once the IT with the quests, you know, what's the point of them? How do they
work, why would people want to engage with them? Okay, sure. So we actually launched like a small quest to like give back for the community who like helping us on the testnet. So back then
And then we go on, there are a lot of people testing our product as well, providing good feedbacks and be around with us since the week one. And at the time we planned to launch NFT collection, the art is almost already done back then.
And yeah, we launched a small quest like, hey, test it out, test this feature out, give us feedbacks. We will mint the small quest achievement for you. And if NFT quest, there will be like a minor point.
eventually does when I'm trying to be useful in the future in the long term meaning that if we have like a large NFT collections and so those retire and I probably will be definitely be the one that okay you guys be with us since the first
and it required to take a collection of my applications to get NFT in the future which we can't promise the detail yet but if it grows we want to shift more ownership to the community those things will be
the top priority community people that need to receive one-day help bus since the beginning as well. Right, gotcha. And just to be clear, if anyone that's listing the mana points we're talking about, they are not affiliated with, well, at least the best of my knowledge, they're not affiliated with Decentraland, yeah.
No, no, no, no, no, it's just a point from our NFT. Yeah, yeah, perfect. So basically, I completed the quest. They were saved at badges. It means that, you know, especially for the early and RJ community, the one that completed the hard quest, I get more of the mana points. I had the badges
the amount of points and then basically that equals potential for benefits in the future whether that's some NFT project with Waker or something else that hasn't yet been conceptualized. Is that a fair summary? Yep, yep. Yes, that is fair point. So we try to keep it
on our team, they will link the first launch, but if times go by, we get sustained revenues, we want to give it back to the community. It does my job will be the first top of the bracket that we will consider having shares of what we built.
Yeah, great. And just to be clear as well with the quest that we were talking about, was that only specific to the pre-launch on Wicker on the mainnet? Or will there be more quest in future? Yeah, I think there'll be more quest along the ways. Testing out.
product improve the products and yeah that definitely be be along the way if we too large a new features as well we need more tester so yeah there will be more. Gotcha okay so ultimately it's a way of incentivizing testers to offer feedback to improve the product.
Yes, yes love it. And so speaking of getting involved with the community the people that are on the call at the moment I believe and correct me if I'm wrong is there some sort of free mint NFT available for people on the space today? Oh Yeah, I think we do have some
campaigns on our Twitter's. So if you guys check out us out, follow Weaker, join our Telegrams, fill in the form and retweet the question about tree will be there for you for free mint. Yeah. Fantastic.
here on that as in when how long that's open for? Do mean this quest right? Yeah, correct. You guys need to be in this call. Okay, go to so anyone that's paying attention to the call if you're not just passively listening or you're cooking your lunch or
or whatever it is that you're doing if you're paying attention and you are active, go to the wicket, twitter, you can follow the steps, go to the telegram, do the little bits and pieces, do the quests and the mana. Now with that being said, let's move on to the actual tools that are being created that the
main use cases of WCA at the moment which are the token minter, the token locker, the launch pad and presale and the token burners. I was sort of break each one of them down here starting with the token minter. If I was a noob and obviously I said I've already minted some of my own doscoins
But if I was a complete noob and I hadn't done this already and had no experience of doing so, where would I start how would I do this? Yes, so the thing that you need basically for tokenment there is some names for the tokens.
the supply that you want to mint, how many tokens you want to mint and some cool pictures. That's all the three things that you need. And you go to our website, there will be a section called "Mainter". You click that button, put the three main things that are important.
the name and symbols, upload your logo and then supply, then click press the button and voila, the tokens will be on your wallet in a second. Yeah. It really is that quick and easy. So just one thing I noticed, just for your own use,
is on the Wicker homepage. If you've got a Wicker.money on the how it works section, there's the three icons. One of them says, Tokenio, the other says, Lohamora and the other says, Manna, TeraSera. Those link currently did links. Oh, yes. Oh, shit. Okay. Thanks.
That's all right, but if you click the launch app button at the top and the left, so anyone who's on wikor.money, if you click launch app, I will click your page where you'll then have access to everything, the dashboard, the explore, the invest in the micro-pull tabs. From a usability or user
experience perspective, everything you need is on the services tab on the right hand side and so a data unlock your mentor and that's where you get started and follow those steps that we just spoke about a second ago. It really does take no time at all. Of course these are CW20 tokens. Are you planning on
This is terror too. Will there be, you know, is this going to expand out across the cosmos? Is this going to expand across to other chains? Yes, for sure. We're thinking about that as well, but we're trying to evaluate fractions and demand first, like, um, for say,
like people on the community want osmosid or June or other cosmos we want to identify that first before like full moving on onto that but yeah this is product is like chain agnostic but we we start to that is why we want to build an
start from from from from this chain first, but along the way, yeah, we we love to expand to understand as well. Fantastic fantastic and so obviously it's a the logical step as you just stage it out based on demand and so you know people are so that the people listening have gone and they've minted their own coins already.
The next step for them according to the sequence here is locker. Now the locker essentially sets the vesting schedule. Can you tell us a bit about that? Okay, sure. So when the project is launched, there when the project owner want to build a great product, great communities.
It also a great idea to lock some tokens and ensure investor that invests early on that hey this project is long term Let's say that the team mint 100 tokens. They own let's say 40% of it they lock for like three
years, meaning that team cannot trade. And other 60% of tokens can be liquidity, community, marketing, and other budgets that the project needs to succeed. So the project's owner have ability to lock the token
differently, different period of time for their investor, for their seed, for their other advisor team marketing. And yeah, those key element help the community ensure that, okay, the project is deemed to follow
long-term or not. If they lock there is more like least safer for the projects owner to deliver before not just a very quick comment down projects kind of stuff. So token window will help that in a quick step. Yeah. Right.
And so for the people, you know, there's multiple use cases here. This can be used from a business standpoint. It can be used for dows. It can be used as individuals. You know, the there's another OC member, Tara Watcher. And he was saying to me, when he first came here, he was the one
that actually put me onto your Wicca 2. He was just saying how he sees it as potential for some really cool meme coin generation. I was like, "Oh yeah, that's a cool idea." How do you see this
the lock is being used for people who are specifically, you know, maybe running a dow or something like that, would they would they be able to set this vesting schedule and then assign it to because what I was sorry just to give you context here, as I was playing with it and you're and I was trying to set the vesting
schedule in the locker, obviously asks for different wallet addresses that they'll be getting allocated to. It was a manual input and my question is around, is there a way to kind of automate that so that people who are investing in it, their wallet?
automatically syncs up and and then the besting schedule operates sort of automatically. Meaning like like if the token is unlocked it will be like on your wallet. Then likely without you need to claim right. That is what it is.
More so in the setting up process so that's yeah what you're describing sounds like how it how it actually just works but more so in the setting up process of getting their locker like I'm in it now so I'm looking at my token locker if anyone is on their website or on their computer
the URL will be app.wikker.money/bisting and so I can see here I've got my DOS coin, I've got a token contract address, the next button, then say cool, what's the locker name, I'll put in with the
I want to be a cliff type of vesting or a linear type. And then by the way, I'll have the simplicity of this. And then I would check, I would click the percentage, you know, whether it's 50%, 100%, I can, I've got full flexibility there.
and then it says receiver and it says to paste the wallet addresses. And so let's say I'm launching something and other people want to invest in it, is there a way that this part, the receiver part can be added without me having to manually put these addresses in?
Um, yeah, I think I'll, you mean like to rest fun and stuff, right?
Sorry, I missed that last sentence, Rosa. Do you mean to use the token and rest more fun or what I don't get what you're trying to do right now? I mean, like you lock, but you lock for other people. You said what do you mean? Yeah, yeah, correct. Okay.
Yeah, we could we could think about that and yeah, I could discuss the team more detail on that It might be possible but need to check whether like If you need to change some contracts and so the audit may be a bit different
and need to redo the audit. But if it's half value, yeah, I think we could definitely do it. But right now, I'm not sure. Too easy. Okay. And I'll just just, um, I'm afraid around this listening. I've also just brought Ken up. Who is part of Wicker? So hello, Ken. Well,
I'm just brought you up. You should have the be related to speak. Yeah. Hello. Hey, awesome. So I don't know how much of this conversation you've caught so far, but we're just doing a little bit of a walk through of the wicker website at the moment and going through each of the functions. So we've looked at the mint. We've looked the locker. We're now looking
looking at the launch pad. Would you care to talk us a bit more about this one? Now you are added a lot. Go pay launch pad pitch now. That is correct and I can see here that it's asking me where I'd like to launch liquidity. I've got the option of TerraSwap, I've got the option of AstroPort,
And I believe I've seen somewhere that you also should have an integration with Phoenix Finance. Is that right? - Yeah, Phoenix Finance R is odd eating now. So I'm not sure that if we integrate with Phoenix Finance is a save for the users. So we like large enough
to us swap and asso pod may be safe for you so now and if we have a further more discussed with Phoenix finance yeah we can educate with them too. - George, you're fantastic. So at the moment we've just got Teras swap and asso pod. It looks pretty straightforward. I would basically assign which way which
the X I want to have the liquidity launched on and then the buyers that have one option at the moment who participate with Luna specifically Are they going to be Options? I don't know how work would there be options to participate with other coins outside of Luna? Oh, yeah
At first, we want to buy a two-price service Luna, but in the future plan, we at an other core, it's like a USDCs that reach for the SLR as well. But this is our future plan. Gotcha. Okay, fantastic.
That's great. This is so fun. I'm actually really enjoying it. I think you can rest in the call right now. Like, those calling are going to launch his token and if you want to support him, buy the his tokens. I don't know what I'm
I don't know what I do with them and what the use case is. It's a novelty. The other part of this just allows you to produce the tokens total supply forever. Let's say for example I've minted my $1000 coin. If I wanted
right now theoretically I could just burn the whole amount and they see to exist and there's like a big experiment didn't really happen other than the trace you know data being on the blockchain I'm sorry what's the question about burner right yeah with the burner so if I was to if I was to
to burn the entire dust coin supply right now would that you'd still be able to view that it had taken place on the blockchain, but you just wouldn't be able to access the coins at all. Yeah, it sort of like sent it to the wallet that no one can access.
So the history of token will be there, but your coin will just totally burn and can't interact with it. Is there a wondering as well? Is there maybe a feature that could be put on to this section in the future where you could have a built-in
a burn schedule? Oh, but schedule that is very interesting. I have this with my team before but that is very hard to do because to write a cosmos like a disciple for the new burn when you put the command to burn
your token so this can do maybe you can lock up your token in our locker and you promise it your investor yeah we will burn this money like in this debt yeah you can do it like it too. Another way I can figure out is that we open the
the API SDK and the more advanced projects can connect to it programmatically. So they can set up their own box to burn. But as a permissionless, we don't want the risk having those box scheduling in our
site. So it will be a risk on many projects, but we can think about open a way for other projects to do that. Other broad call to connect to us as well. Yeah. Thanks for that. A bit of clarity there. Okay. Well, this is... Yeah, this
This is super cool. As I've alluded to a couple of times, I'm just enjoying the simplicity of this. You've done very well, you've done a great pivot, you've done really well here. Of course, I've been paying attention to your lead up to as well, the promotion on your page and just all the
and I think whoever's spearheading that in your team, they're doing a great job. And so it hats off to them. But what I'm curious about here is you've got these badge styles at the moment, just going back to the badge
the badge thing for a second. You've got these different badge styles based on mana points which are the bronze, the silver, the gold, the emerald and the amethyst. - Yeah. - Is this an ongoing thing as well or is this just a temporary, is this only for the recent quest?
Yeah, you mean unlike the color of the frame that is indicated by the minor point of your badge and FTPatch, right? Oh, just the actual badges themselves. Sorry.
Is there always going to be like a bronze silver gold emerald and amethyst badge based on the amount of points? Yeah, there is an indicator of mana points that is right to rank or rarity. If it creates harder, you get a more mana points.
told that before you can't get them. If you have more main employees, you can get them like access another like of our future platform to communities and have a minute of like privilege for them something in the future. Right and these are tradable. These
Tradal on a secondary marketplace. What is it? No way. You've got it on nowhere. Is that right or? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm aware. Fantastic. I could just say them kicking along too. And so what I'll do now, because obviously I've been asking some questions for a little while and I'm sure some people on the
call will have questions of their own. Right now is the time where I'll put out a little call to action. If you are feeling compelled if you're on this call and you've got questions of your own, we invite you up as a guest as a speaker to ask these questions. I want to make sure that whoever is listening on this space today comes away with full clarity about what we're going
does how it works, you know, what's in store in the future and addresses sort of any questions or concerns that they may have. So that's your invitation if you are interested in coming up and asking a question. With that being said, while we're waiting for any questions to come through, are there any
particular things for you gentlemen can and Wicca money profile are there anything in particular that you've not yet expressed that you would like to receive anything that any questions that I haven't asked you that you know you have information on that you'd like to impart.
But one thing is that we do have four things going on right now, minters, lockers, launchers and burners, right? What we are looking for next is I think they have more demand for it, it's the ad-drop features where you could just pass lists of the
address and then add up the token amount to multiple people at one time but it's being evaluated and another one is like the farming as a service. Let's say that you want to incentivize your your community or
anyone to farm the liquidity, grow the liquidity, you can do quite mentally lock the tokens on the farm and then emission into the LP by itself. Those are being evaluated, so if anyone would love these features to grow
out, give us some feedback, show us how you would integrate in and build it, and if there are a lot of demands, we will prioritize those features to be first, and then moving forward it will be based on community needs. People come up with us and say hey, you want this
and that for launching your tokens, yeah we will definitely use up what the company needs. I think that's for me on the future plan. Can do you have any more thing to add on on top of that? Yeah if you add on like
We have more questions if anyone, like Chris for users on the mainnet, or the users who can refer or protocol that can launch on Vigor, and that is our future plan to have a
more batched for the many users to come up and contribute to our communities. Awesome, fantastic. What I would love to do here as well, just we're not getting anyone's jumping up at the moment, just checking on the general
community engagement and sentiment that you've observed so far, like within your own personal discord, you know, telegrams, any other groups that you might have going. What's the interaction being like? Are you finding there are plenty of questions coming up? Are there any constructive criticisms that you're getting back?
Can do you want to answer that? Yeah. But yeah, I think the test that people
enjoying testing it, doing it. One thing is that I'm waiting for like the big projects to come and access to launch one and forming a solid relationship to help you
help and guide people who have to launch their own projects. But there are a lot of people coming in and testing our product from the new waves of Terra user as well, not only from the old community.
If you've got anything to add on to that one there, Ken. I'm just looking at my notes here. I had one question aside as well for regarding just another integration with leak wallet. That's all being finalized.
Sorry if I wasn't messing with. She's asking, has that integration been finalized or completed? And what does it entail? Oh, you mean like we integrate our wallet?
We integrate with Tora Station Wallet and leave Wallet as well now. Yeah, I think it's already been done already. Yeah. Yeah, fantastic. It's good to see that Leipa still kicking along too. Obviously, when they were launching back a few months ago and around Terra 1 they had some
cool little features where they would link directly into a protocol. So they're a great introduction wallet for people who may not be used to leak or are aware of them at this point in time. They're definitely worth checking out too. Without all being said, I'm looking over my notes here. I feel like I've asked pretty much all the questions I
that I had. If you have anything else at all that you want to point people towards any Twitter's, telegrams, discord's, media articles, if there's anything that you want to steer people towards, I'm happy to give
you the space to do so? Yeah I think please join us in Telegram. You can follow us on Twitter, or FI here. You put our Telegram ring on our bios and if you have any struggling launch tokens or you are project owners, students,
anyone who loves experiment and we love to try within a few seconds run your own project, read some funds, being naughty video tokens, contact us and let's not help you guys out. Hey, what is going on?
with the token. Maybe like I saw people minting their memes a lot of fun. Dev maybe like pranking your friend tokens. I think yeah just be creative and trying to mess around with our website. Yeah. Yeah I love that.
that comes down to the simplicity and the missionless nature of this product, just it makes it so easy for people to want to be naughty as you put it and place some tricks on their friends and think of that, they've absolutely got the capacity to do so as long as their creativity extends at bar.
You did say a moment ago that you were looking for some big projects to use WCA for their own launch. Do you have any, are you talking with anyone behind the scenes, do you have any alpha on that front, anything that you can share that could be of interest? - I think yeah,
We are still waiting for attractions to bring up on the Terra to Westville. The past few months has been focusing on development itself. I think it's a good time now for more business development and more engagement with the
Whether they want to launch or not or if anyone in here want to launch a project or know anyone who want to launch project fast, you can save all the thing cause you can save contract development cost and near contact as and and help it but in the pipeline I think we
have some interest but not formalized on the projects ongoing yet. So can't say for sure that there will be a big project launch soon. Yeah. Okay, well that's just one of those things where we'll have to keep our eyes and ears open. I'm sure that it's a matter of time before you start attracting some, you know, bigger players into this space just
just purely based on the ease of the launch and also the capabilities of WCA2. So again, really happy with what you put through here. We have lots of to everyone listening. You know, this has been a
a couple of months to say the least. As you alluded to a moment ago, you were saying that you've been busy developing, you know, head down, bum up, getting things done, and now shipping the products. So that's been the case with a lot of other protocols since May and hence why the space, the terror spaces, or the
spaces have been a little quite likely and actually shared it to Terraspaces as I'm just saying the name there. I can see Terraspaces is on the call and may even be recording. I'm not entirely sure but it wouldn't be surprising if he was. He is everywhere at all times and does amazing work so it cannot follow any Terraspaces through that. But back to what I was saying, Twitter Spaces
have been a little quiet because most protocols have been busy building. What's happening now, all of a sudden, I'm getting this rush in my inboxes of protocols that have got some news coming out and things that they want to launch. We've got a few things even this week. We've got, we talked
in tomorrow. I've got a space happening. I think we're running out of time we're jumping on one with metrics now. We've got secret network on Monday coming. We've got or Sunday. We've got. There's the other one. Oh, I clips is on next week. We've got poll staff finance. I think the following week, there's a bunch of, there's a bunch of spaces
coming up. So if you've been missing spaces, they're coming back. They're coming back in a big way. With that being said, I don't have, oh, here we go. I'll see some clapping hands. I'm going to do a clapping hands where I'll just celebrate the growth of crypto and the space. The word for it.
something about the dustbin real quick. So what I'm enjoying right now is that you know there's projects like Wicca money here that are creating no-code minting tools right and we have sold protocol that is also doing the same thing for NFTs. Yeah so we didn't have that before in Terra class
So I feel like it made it harder for creative people because they needed to have a well-experienced developer than you rush in order to help them build their vision. So I'm excited about this, you know, because now a creator can come in and
they need less support, right? Like they're still going to just need some guidance, but you know, WCA team has their own community and telegram so they can go in there and ask questions in regard to creating a token for projects, but I'm excited for this. I think
you know it's just going to help attract more builders and more creators that have good ideas but just need a little bit of guidance to make it come to life so yeah I'm looking forward to hearing all those faces and seeing the growth in Wicca as well. Yeah you hit the nail on the head there everyone you know it's
This ease of access is a big thing. There's been a barrier to entry to getting into crypto. For many years now, and the barrier of entry is that the learning curve seemed too steep. If you're going back 10, 13 years ago, getting the Bitcoin Y-Paper out, trying to explain to someone would have just been in the
absolute nightmare and that's why when you look at the old videos of Andreas and Tenoppelus speaking at conferences there's like four people in the room and so now it's just it's gradually over time getting easier and easier and I think with products like with Watwick are offering now and as you mentioned soil who I think we're going to try and get on the space next couple of weeks too
This is just better for normal adoption. And if you look at the past year to years, or yeah, last year, 2021 was the year of DeFi and the year of NFTs. And I actually personally think that even though I love DeFi and that's like that's my space.
I think NFTs probably did serve as a better bridge into Web 3 than DeFi did or DeFi has so far. And so, yeah, Wicker, I think you're on the right track. I think you're doing a great job of providing the product with
service that you are. And I think just the timing of it all, where we are obviously in a damn arc and things are a little uncertain and can be very uncertain depending on which vantage point you're at. But I think as this all sort of comes back around, you've built the foundation
and you build it and they will come. It's still a line from the classic field of dreams. I think you're doing everything right so far. You've been fantastic to talk to. The communications behind the scenes has been really solid.
Yeah, I just I'm rooting for you guys. I really I really hope that you have some great success Yes, thanks. Thanks man for the course of being missing the community and talk to people and Yeah, this is a great call so far and Thanks for the course. Thank for
making this happen as well. You guys did some really things that helping builders showing off their products. Yeah. And I'm even thinking maybe something we can do that might be fun or at least helpful for people as being, you know, our services about that.
is essentially community communications and education. And so maybe we can even put something together with a sort of live walkthrough on Discord or something of that nature, just to show people visually whether or not that needs to be done with you guys. I think we can probably handle that.
But either way, if we do end up doing that, then people can join us and get a visual experience with it. So any other final words from you guys, I'm feeling like this is kind of coming to a close here. I don't know if anyone else is jumping out with any questions.
If there's no questions, we'll give them a minute. We'll give them a good 30 seconds here. I think that had plenty of time already. But we'll give them about 30 seconds. If you've got any last questions here, we've got a few minutes for you if you are still wanting to know something.
And if not, that's okay too.
I don't think we're getting any traction here. Look guys, I think that is going to wrap it up for today. Wicca money. Ken, absolute legend. I appreciate your time, energy, expertise, knowledge, all of the above. And as I said, I'm really successful, right? So if you need anything at all, just reach out to me, reach out to the guys at Orbital Command. We'll do what we can.
and to assist you and to help spread the word. - Thanks, thanks man. - Yeah, thanks guys. - You're so welcome. Take a day to everyone, have an amazing day. - Have a good day guys. - Take care everyone. - Have a good day. Take care. - Bye.