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Let’s GROW Live 📢 @Gitcoin Community 24/7 🌳 #GG23
Recorded: April 11, 2025 Duration: 5:02:37Space Recording
Short Summary
The conversation highlighted the launch of the Unstoppable 24-7 spaces, emphasizing community engagement and the importance of partnerships in driving growth within the crypto ecosystem. Discussions on token launches, fundraising efforts, and the need for talent in the industry underscored the dynamic nature of the blockchain landscape.
Full Transcription
Music Thank you. And we're back.
I'm not exactly sure what happened there.
Not exactly sure what happened there.
I think I might have lost.
I think I might have lost...
I think my computers are like overheating,
over-yacting, over-something.
It is over it.
All right.
I'm going to jump in some grow hosting.
Hold on just a second.
Let's get some tunes playing.
And let's warm this baby back up.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
All right.
Welcome, welcome, welcome.
This is the Unstoppable 24-7 spaces. Think you can stop what we do? I doubt it. We've got the energy, we tell you all about it.
I searched from my spark and I found it.
Everybody in the crowd start bouncing.
Making bangers at a young age.
My pen's setting fire to the page.
I'm sure you have to rock that stage.
They said, do this in the car, you'll be getting more rage.
Listen up, cause what we do every day is decent.
Cabin crew on top on top of every playlist.
If we see a dream, you know we're gonna chase it.
So get over any fear you have to face it.
That's my passion and I couldn't live without it.
You can do it like we do it, don't doubt it.
Any obstacle, we find a way around it.
If you're proud of who you are and what you do, shout it.
Think you can stop what we do, I doubt it. We've got the energy, we'll tell you all around it. If you're proud of who you are and what you do, show it. Think you can stop what we do?
I doubt it.
We've got the energy, we'll tell you all about it.
I search for my spark and I doubt it.
Everybody in the crowd start bouncing.
Think you can stop what we do?
I doubt it.
We've got the energy, we'll tell you all about it.
I search for my spark and I tend it.
Everybody in the crowd start bensing. I'm into my town. People start from my back and I bend it. Everybody in the craft start dancing.
I reach my top, people be like, who are they?
Moving to my music, yeah, that gets me through the day.
I create my own way, feeling super slave.
Express my heart, that's how I communicate.
In my imagination, never feeling out of place.
Blast off like a rocket of the outer space.
Living large, reaching for the stars
Let them all know, all the kids are in charge
Feeling awesome anytime I rap
Thoughts blossom when I'm on a track
Spin bars, pop, class, full of energy, the cop
Greenewed and all, rhyme, I love all that map
If you can stop what we do, I doubt it
We pack the energy with L, you wanna vote it I search for my do, I doubt it. We've got the energy, we'll tell you all about it.
I searched for my spark and I found it.
Everybody in the crowd, that bouts it.
You can stop what we do, I doubt it.
We've got the energy, we tell you all about it.
I searched for my spark and I found it.
Everybody in the crowd, that bouts it.
Alright everybody, we just got rugged. You know the drill. Can the club stop bouncing? Alright, everybody.
We just got rugged.
You know the drill.
Max, engage with that purple in the bottom right.
That purple little oval there.
Give it a love.
Give it a retweet.
Give it a comment.
And drop the bookmark button.
Drop it like it's hot.
Okay.
Oop.
And there we go.
Okay.
So we are growing to, hold on just one sec.
Grow host.
Okay.
All right.
Welcome back, X.
Welcome back, Lumina.
Welcome back, KF Media.
Let's get this thing growing. Okay. Okay. Alright. Welcome back X. Welcome back Lumina. Welcome back KF Media. Let's get this thing growing.
Okay.
I am growing to play some actual tunage.
How about that?
Bluetooth.
Here we grow.
Here we grow.
Okay.
Give us un momento in the meantime. Just another cruise You on a cruise
Just another cruise All right, all right, all right.
We're going to be playing some tunes.
Happy Friday.
Make sure you're max engaging in the bottom right.
I'm going to plant that up here in the tippy top.
And let's up.
All right, all right.
There's the noise from all the people watching you right now.
They couldn't be here.
We're in a turn nation.
Turn nation.
Turn nation. the
the I'm so excited! My Oh Oh Alicia, are you ready? Oh只要你一天就能重新 I Let's go! Oh all right all right all all right happy Friday friends we just got a rickety rickety ruggled
home spaces
So if you could be so kind as you head to that
Little dot in the bottom right and max engage shout out to X who left a comment
shout out to X who left a comment. Shout out to X who did a retweet.
Everyone else, bottom right.
We need to revamp the spaces.
All right, so Lumina, I'm talking to you.
Head to the bottom right or in the garden.
Madecoins, head to the garden.
Republic Nouns, Renee, KF Media, Ethereum, head to the garden uh republic downs renee kf media uh ethereum head to the
garden ethereum chile z head to the garden once you're there in the garden and you see our little
chat box max engage hit the bookmark hit the love hit the retweet drop a gif or anything that you
want a drivity drop in the bottom right okay welcome back lumina
how you doing i can't open the comment section i tried it's not working it's not working no i'm
sorry i'm like everyone engage oh it doesn't even work oh okay all right well i wonder if anyone
else is having that problem. Nacion Bankless.
Is it working for you?
Give me a thumbs up if the comment section is working for you, friends.
Give me thumbs down if it's having issues.
Let's see if this is worth rugging again.
If it's actually, space is rugged.
Huh.
Well, how was the sound quality?
Was that coming through terribly or decent?
Decent? Okay, thumbs up, so I guess comment section working now.
Was that to the music, Lumina, or to the comment section?
Yeah, I did it.
Oh, the comments or the music?
The music also was good.
The sound quality was coming through.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Well, we might just vibe out for a little bit longer.
And then we'll keep this growing.
Give me, okay.
Two more minutes of tunes while we max engage.
Bottom right.
Until we see more max engaging, we won't start.
Okay.
Cooking.
All right.
Yeah. Let's cook.
Let's cook.
All right. Let's grow. I'm going to retweet the let's grows. Type hashtag. Let's grow. Okay, cooking. All right, yeah, let's cook. Let's cook. All right, let's grow.
I'm going to retweet the let's grows.
Type hashtag, let's grow, drop a gif, anything you can.
Let's get music radio, happy happy Friday here we go Oh so Oh, yeah. All right, all right, all right.
Happy Friday. Let's freaking grow. All right. I'm seeing some more comments who we got who we got
X Jimmy and Lumina still only three. Come on now. I'm looking at you. Nassi on bankless
Renee, we're gonna need to see some more comments before we get the show started. Okay
Max engage. We just got rug. This is not a drill. Max Engage.
Introducing. Okay, maybe it was a drill.
It was just a drill.
We may
or may not be faced with advertisements.
Wait.
Wait a second.
Hold the phone.
Hold the phone.
Okay. All right. Let's see how many comments we got same number come on now y'all can do better Oh Oh, my God. Thank you. I Thank you. I'm going to go. Yay, friends.
All right.
Much love. much love.
Much love.
Shout out to X for dropping three comments to help revamp the space.
Shout out to you.
Much love, X.
Much love.
KF Media, Renee Z, Public Nouns, Nacion, let's grow.
All right.
All right. All right. So we could either play something while we wait for the next grow host,
or we could do the grow calling game or another activity.
I'm totally open.
This is an open.
Okay.
Actually, actually.
Yeah.
Much love X.
X is throwing it down with the most comments.
Bam.
Let's grow. Here we grow. Let me see who's actually on schedule right now because I'm pretty sure it is actually me. Okay, great. Great, great, great, great, great. No doubt,, baby. All right. Hold on. I think we actually got Daniel.
I'm just posting a few platforms. I could.
Okay. Starting it back up now.
Okay, link.letsgrow.network.
Okay. Link.letsgrow.network.
Slash video.
Alright, video is cranking back up growmentarily.
Growmentarily.
Okay.
Let me get this growing.
While we do.
First, guys, I I'm gonna need somebody
to tell me what love is
I wanna know what love is
alright Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I'm gonna take a little time A little time to put things over
I better read between the lines
In case I need it when I'm older
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I want you to show me.
I want you to show me. Let's freaking grow and grow I've got no love. It looks like love is fine.
In my life, there's been honey can be.
I don't know if I can face it again.
Can't stop now.
I'm trying to walk.
Take me a lonely life. Thank you. I know you picture me.
I want to know my head.
I want you to show me.
I want to be a fool of me.
I know you picture me. Let's grow, let's grow.
Okay, we got Daniel coming on the broadcast
grow mentally.
I got too many tabs growing on.
Okay, hold on just a sec.
Here we grow.
Here we grow. Here we grow.
Everything's gonna be alright.
Everything will be grow-kay.
Grow-kay, grow-kay. Everything will be GroK. GroK, GroK.
Alright.
Alright.
Oh, there we go.
Nailed it.
Okay.
How we doing, X?
What is growing on?
I'm pretty cool.
Thank you. How are you you it was a very long day
I had my son the whole day and I was in bed so I got some time for myself cleaning up the house
and stuff like this and go back to some cooking I like to do it every night and I love it
nothing better than that not much better than that
Amazing what you get up to today. I
Actually want to integrate this fucking sweet blockchain into my fucking app web app
Which is actually already done, but I messed it up again and you know rebuild it and mess it up again And like this, you know building destroying building destroying feeling better
debugging stuff like this
I'll get knocked down is it up again when we're gonna keep it down
Dude, yeah, that's it man. You got to keep pushing keep pushing keeps driving you got this
You got it wait tell us about your web app one more time I actually we have here in Austria
we have in Vienna the renting prices are going through the roof because of Airbnb
people say and I got a bunch of friends here who actually run construction
companies and we rely a lot on workers from Romania, Serbia and other countries.
So they come here for six weeks and work their ass off usually, live in a fucking room, pay a lot of rent for that.
And I think that's not the way it should be.
You know, these people should actually, these people come together and actually get a house together
and live there for free and rebuild it inside, you know,
make it nice again.
That could actually be a good part to actually own something from where they're living or
where they're staying while they're working here.
And it could actually bring down their prices again because all the big houses and blocks
here belong still to banks or big companies.
And this will be a way to actually get it to the people.
Yeah, good for you, man.
Yeah, what inspired you to do that?
You actually can check out the webpage.
And you can actually read a little bit about it if you want to.
But I really got here 300 workers pretty much, yeah. Or they would be here in an hour or three hours or long it takes.
But they're already working and some of them just stay for weeks.
And I saw how they live, yeah.
And they pay a lot for how they live. I mean they pay the same as I do.
They pay about 1200 months, but they work and they only a lot for how they live I mean they pay the same as I do they pay about 1200 a month
but they work and they only sleep in there
but it's just a room, it's a mess
and nothing else, there's no kitchen
there's a toilet on the floor
and a bathroom on the floor
and so they have to stay
and do not get paid the way
they should get paid
but it's enough because when they go home
or when they send their money home, it's good.
They're happy.
But they could actually have much more.
They could actually accumulate some wealth a little bit at least.
Yeah.
Well, respect for doing that, man.
Yeah, I'll check it out.
What's it called?
The name of the website?
It's workforcedao.'s WorkFirstDAO.space
WorkFirstDAO.space
Yep.
It's still in the better
and I'm not actually marketing it
or anything because it's still building.
But you pretty much see what it's about.
Work
You said first is an
F-I-R-S-T
workforce
workforce
workforce
workforce
workforce
okay
cool
so how does
the DAO work
is it
voting token
I believe
I believe I believe the power the money should not talk
we came up with this idea to actually make
NFTs
I mean
domain NFTs, subdomains
and give every person
who is actually in
the building or
in the phase of actually doing something
that is going to get the vote because of the NFT they have
and not because they have tokens, you know.
I think money should not talk, especially not in DAOs.
I think that's the same game that we had years ago or that we still have,
where money talks and money is the main decision maker,
but it shouldn't be that way.
I see it.
Every person who is always into it should actually get the right to vote
or say what they think or come up with something, you know,
and keep it simple and not, yeah, just not let money talk.
I'm completely against that.
Guys, so you don't have money to talk.
So it's more like a one person, one vote type DAO?
Yes, every person.
And I got pretty cool people here because one person actually has its own exchange already in India.
And it's coming up with his own token too and yeah I met pretty cool people at
the world world coin office or world coin where they have their orb
I don't know if you know the orbs from world coin but I do their verification
to be humans and I made a bunch of people there were actually completely
into it and I'm just building web pages and I also found out that in Vienna
and nobody's taking care of SEO in the building
industry at all
so it's pretty much super easy
to actually grab pretty much all the contracts
who are coming
from private people and stuff like that so
this is what we're doing right now
and I'm building pretty much everyday a landing page
SEO optimized and stuff like this
Okay Got you SEO optimized and stuff like this.
Okay.
Got you.
Wow.
Well, good stuff, man.
Well done.
I'm looking at the website right now.
Why this works most competitors in construction,
cleaning, housing, recruitment, rely on traditional methods.
It seems like you can have a high retention with this model, right?
Yeah, but I don't do it for high retention.
I just do it for...
I always want to have something that has some value
and makes some sense.
And, you know, I'm not into crypto anymore
because of the money, because of the community,
because of what's going on,
and the vibe.
And, yeah.
Just be a part of it.
That's enough for me, you know.
You say you're not into crypto anymore?
No, I'm not into crypto because of money, you know, or to get the quick reach.
Oh, not because of money.
Okay, for other reasons.
Yeah.
I came into crypto because of money and trading and stuff like this, but it didn't hold me
because of that, you know.
And it's my fourth cycle, I think, and I love it.
I just love it.
All in.
I'm all in on China. All in. Burn the boats. I just love it. All in. I'm all in on Jane.
All in.
Burn the boats.
That's the spirit.
No more Fiat.
No, no more Fiat.
Down with Fiat.
Love it, man.
Respect.
Respect.
Okay, let me...
Yeah, retweet it already.
Bing, bong, boom.
All right.
Looks like we might have a little bit of time to kill him there
until the next person comes in.
So I'm going to play.
Oh, you know what?
We had a recommendation for the recap of this was the.
Actually, you know what?
Can't do it on this browser.
Just one second.
It's kind of like a recap of Refidal podcast.
Have you ever listened to Refi podcast?
No, not that I know of.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
This would need to be logged in.
Just one sec.
I remember last time that I was running the Snoop Dogg AI stuff pretty much quite often,
which was pretty funny.
The Snoop Dogg reading out the thing.
Yeah, that was really cool.
Audiobooks, not bad, not bad.
Yeah, and I'm listening to you.
You're fucking amazing.
You're actually rolling the show, and I really appreciate what you're doing, man. You're rocking it.
Thanks, bro. Appreciate it, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, we had by far the longest spaces we've ever done. It was like 150 plus consecutive hours or something like that. That was wild.
hours or something like that?
That was wild.
This was wild.
You're online already?
24 hours, I think, right now, no?
I mean, we got rocked, but
every time I came in today, you're thinking of.
Say one more time?
Every day I came in today,
I always heard your voice somehow.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm pretty much in here
18 hours a day pretty much
that or it's like nearby
okay you know what would be
really good
is I think I'm going to show you
this refi podcast
because it is quite
the banger
okay there we go sound is on
fantastic
okay
let's grow with some Hold on. Okay, there we go. Sound is on. Fantastic. Okay.
Let's grow with some DMRV.
Actually, no.
The most recent episode was apparently very, very insightful. Okay, so from the green rush to refire realism.
That is this episode.
Here we grow.
Let's see sound will come in
there's the problem
just a sec
okay here we go
boom boom nice okay Okay, here we go. Bang, bang, boom.
Uh huh. Nice.
Okay.
Try this.
Actually.
But it was all good vibes for overall from the top
it was the green rush in some ways in regenerative finance you know i think we were all super excited
and we could all kind of paper over all the little things that didn't quite make sense we
didn't quite know how they work we didn't quite under actually understand what that person was saying, but it was all good vibes.
Hi, Refi Podcast.
I'm back with a special episode of Regeneration Nexus.
Today, I sat down with Dave Fortson, Chief Growth Officer of Region Network, and Sandra Ponce de Leon, co-founder of Refight Tulum and the owner
of the NFT Boutique. We took a step back to look at the big picture, where the region space is
heading as we move from the early energy of Green Rush into the new phase of grounded realism.
We discussed how do we make space for creative experimentation while staying realistic about the need for a sustainable business model?
What does it really mean to build regenerative comments and why is a shared framework so important?
We also talked about the realities of community building and what it takes to establish trust with your customers.
So what's your take? Leave a comment and share the episode with your community.
Hi, Sandra and Dave. Welcome to the ReFi Podcast.
Thank you. Hey, Maya. It's great to see you. And hey, Dave.
Hi. Greetings, everyone. Thanks for having me. And it's nice to connect in with both of you.
I know Maya, I've known you for quite some time or relative to this recent world of regenerative finance.
And Sandra, I've heard about you plenty.
So it'd be fun to get to know you a little bit better.
And thanks, both of you, for all your work.
Yes, it's about time to have both of you on the podcast.
I'm really excited to chat with you in this special edition of the episode that kind of emerged out of our discussion with you, Dave, about sort of the trends we're seeing,
where the space is headed. And I'm really excited to chat with you two specifically because you've
been in this space for a while. And for those who don't know, Dave is a chief growth officer
at Regen Network. And Sandra is the co-founder of ReFi Tulum, also the owner of the NFT boutique
in Tulum. And I've had the pleasure to meet both of you in
person. So this episode is all about sort of the big picture of where the region space is headed.
It's meant to offer real takes for the community. I really want to touch on what's working,
what's not working in the region space, the trends that you're seeing, and maybe some of the
advice that you can give to the community as we wrap up season four of the
Refri podcast. So let's dive in and start with what got you into the region space in the first
place. I'm really curious, what was the moment for both of you when you realize that you want
to dedicate your time to this movement? Dave, do you want to start? Yeah, happy to. I think, well, what started
actually years ago, and I'll fast forward very quickly, but was a theology of nature class I
took when I was 16 years old. I was at a Jesuit high school and some bulb clicked for me around
that I wanted to make my life and career based on environmentalism at that time. And now in,
you know, an iteration of that, a regenerative finance, but in more now in, you know, an iteration of that or regenerative finance.
But in more recent times, you know, what really turned me on to it was this ongoing search that I had after being in activism as a community organizer. I was in politics. I was in technology.
I was in marketing, all related to ecology in one form or another. And, you know, just ecological
repair or permaculture. At one point, I was on land
on 300 acres with my family, bringing back an old cattle ranch with regenerative agriculture
and holistic rangeland management, things like that. And I still kept bumping up into just
consistently that as long as we're primarily at the global economic system is dominated by some version of capitalism, which is frankly been bastardized so horribly, right, that where we've externalized the fundamental system that underpins all of our day to day activities, right, which is a natural, healthy, high functioning ecosystem. We put that on the outside and we decided to build a whole
financial model that essentially was based on the extraction of the value within those ecosystem
services. And that until we could figure out how to make legible ecological help in order to bring
it into our day-to-day interactions with each other and with our how we spend money and how we make policy,
how we do public planning, that we were going to be in deep trouble. And so for all the activism
and all the work that I was doing and, you know, education, policy, all these things, until we
made legible ecological health and help connect it to our day to day interactions that we were
going to be in trouble. So when refi or regenerative finance popped up in through me through Regen Network, you know,
one of the OGs in the space, that was when I really realized like I'd found my home. And so
anyhow, here I am today, you know, it's 2025, still at it through the highs and lows. But those
were that's a little bit of my origin story. Nice. And we'll definitely touch on those highs
and lows later.
But before that, Sandra, what's your story with the B5 space?
My story is taking a sailing trip through the Windward Islands in 2017.
And it was a love story that didn't ever end up being.
It ended in heartbreak.
But along the way on that trip, we visited many different islands from starting
at Martinique all the way to Granada. And as we were traveling through those islands,
you know, one of the things that just kept popping up was, were these dead coral, like everywhere,
you know, white skeleton around and even, you know, places where like the conch shells would
just be like, you know, stacked up because they were just overfishing them and that's what they eat. So, you know, through that trip, you know, I kind of turned my heartbreak and pushed
that all into the ocean, reconnected with my love for the ocean and decided after many years of
marketing and technology and startups and being a co-founder that I really wanted to focus my skills,
my network, my experience on leaving the planet
a better place. And really primarily my why is for my nieces who I adore and for my nephews and for,
you know, all the kids in my family that, you know, I really wanted them to experience the ocean
the way that I've seen it and not an ocean as is predicted in 2050 that's going to be filled with plastic.
And so, you know, from that point, I really focused my efforts on ocean work. I started
the Blue Economy Agency. And it was also around that time, Blue Economy Agency, which is a
marketing agency focused on ocean technologies for good. And really, my focus became on technology
for good, although I had a lot of that focus before.
And then that was also right around the time of the 2017 ICO boom. And that's really where I got my first start working for a company that was building floating islands that were supposed
to be sustainable, self-sustaining, regenerative. And that's really where I got the bulk of my
knowledge about ocean regeneration and the regenerative field in general.
And I didn't stay in the ICO or in the crypto space.
I got out of it. I was just focused on pure ocean technologies.
And then four years ago, moving to Tulum, I connected with my ocean tri-care that were already very involved in building Web3 infrastructure
for tokenization of real world assets of technologies that can restore
ecosystems and transform plastic into fuel. So that's really my journey. And for the last four
years, yes, as you mentioned, I've been here with the NFT boutique in Tulum, which really is a
showcase to what's possible in this world. When we all come together, the beauty of web3 and being
that showcase of what's possible to the world. And then yes together, the beauty of Web3 and being that showcase
of what's possible to the world.
And then yes, also with Refai Tulum
really being an on-the-ground action force
for positive change for the planet.
I love this.
Thanks for sharing your why
and connecting with your personal motivations
because I think that's a good reminder
for why people are doing what they're doing.
And shout out to the NFT boutique.
It was really cool to visit it
when I was in Tulum last year.
And I would say in the world of all this digital work, it's cool to actually have a physical space where you can go.
So if you're ever in Tulum, highly recommend checking it out.
And you both are involved in technology for good and in marketing.
in marketing you know i also do some work in marketing and as you know messaging is really
I also do some work in marketing.
important to spread the ideas across and you know build coalitions and recruit more people and things
like that and what i find that in this you know region refi space the messaging and the wording
some jargon can be too much you know because we are talking about web three which is its own beast then we're talking about environmentalism
climate science climate finance that's already also quite a hefty industry in and of itself
so combining the two right and communicating that to people completely outside of these spaces
has been a big challenge for me so what i'm curious for both of you to answer is how do you describe
what you do to your grandma or someone completely outside of the Web3 space of the region space,
if you were to meet or let's say someone on the street and they ask you, okay, so what do you do
in your career? How do you convey that message? I would say we are encouraging
people to do good work for the planet and compensating them for their time. So that's
one aspect of what we do. And I would say also, it's a way for us, for me personally, my community
to take control of really what matters to us and to come together as a community and to leverage
the power of this global network to be able to raise the funds that we need to be able to implement
those public goods for our community. Fair. For me, I guess there's two answers. One with
for Regen Network Development, PBC, Public Benefit Corporation, that's the corporation that
I work for and have been part of for quite some time. I say that we are a software company that
has developed a platform for the origination and management of ecological assets. And then as far
as, you know, kind of what does that mean that we get help people get paid for verified ecological
impact, right? So something somewhat similar, but the idea that people improve the planet,
that they should
get paid and it should be verified nice nice i like having these descriptions that don't mention
anything about web 3 or the scary words of the centralized technology but then if you want to
dig into it and i guess we'll get to that in a second of why web 3 but you know you shared your
story of how you got into the regen space and both of you have
been involved in it for quite some time so you've kind of seen a little waves and you know rises and
falls of the community so i wonder can you provide a personal take off like what some of the trends
you're seeing and what are some of your predictions on where the space is going?
Yeah, I'm happy.
I've got some thoughts here.
You know, sometimes I feel a little on the older side in this space, for better or for worse.
I think what the perspective it's given me, you know, let's say, you know, I was in the heat of like the 2020 to 2022 excitement around altcoins and all the refi explosion, you know, where frankly,
anything that you do sounded great. Everyone had a new protocol or a new chain. They were setting up a new project, a new way of being paid for doing good work. It was very exciting.
Then reality smacked us all around super hard, right? I mean, the crypto economy crashed,
the carbon markets crashed. And I think, you know, just the long tail of like all of the excitement and heat of use? Did you gain any traction? Do you know
who your target market is? Do you know how you're going to run a successful business? And I'd say
for like good eight out of 10, maybe nine, the answer was not very good for all of those questions.
And it wasn't because it was, there was no malintent. I think, you know, this was just like
a, it was the green rush in some ways in regenerative finance. You know, I think, you know, this was just like a, it was the green rush in some ways in regenerative finance.
You know, I think we were all super excited and we could all kind of paper over all the little things that didn't quite make sense.
We didn't quite know how they work.
We didn't quite actually understand what that person was saying, but it was all good vibes.
You know, and while, you know, to some degree, you know, some of the older organizations like us, you know,
Regen Network has been building for a long time, you know,
we'd see all these things popping up, be like, yay, cheer.
We added, you know, money to grants and things like that. And, you know,
and we were still trying to jam and sometimes we were included.
Sometimes we felt we weren't. And, you know,
some of it was self-inflicted pain that we put on ourselves. But, you know,
I think, you know, as we fast forward to today,
I think that we're seeing the effects of lack of discipline and seriousness around the development of products that can gain traction.
And that, you know, people who, you know, who are dedicated to running a sustainable business, you know having the hard conversations with people of like why aren't we partnering better and why aren't we
you why aren't you using my product why am i not using yours like all of that is like perfect
and perfect display in some ways right now and my guess is where we're headed to cut to the chases
is probably a necessary effort to specialize for different protocols and groups and entities to specialize a little bit into what they do best to abstract away as much of Web3 as possible so that people have a Web2 interface for interacting with our products.
Period.
model that actually builds a sustainable business, or you can tell a damn good story to your
investors around your plan for growth and that you are the right people to do it.
And really partnerships that are not performative and are based in frankly, rolling up the sleeves
and doing the hard work and everyone kind of setting aside their sacred things that
they thought that they needed to be doing or that they have their own this or their
own that and folding in a little bit to each other, you know, again, around probably complementary
specialties and around, you know, I think complementary dedication to just doing the
hard work of product development and design and really showing legitimate traction in far beyond
the Web3 space. You know, with all due respect to the refi community, we're small, we're small, and we don't have a lot of money. And we're the necessary builders
right now. And our failures are going to become foundational for future entrepreneurs and
organizations that will have seen and built upon the like, base code that we created,
or the base ideas, or the base relationships relationships or the base events that we put on
that even if like, you know, if I went away, I feel like I've helped build some really solid
blocks or been participant in doing that, that will help the next wave of entrepreneurs. And
that is something that some of us can be like, wow, that was my contribution. And only probably
a handful of us that are listening to this right now will actually
be able to frankly have the durability and resilience and the luck to make it to this
next wave of businesses that are designed to scale.
And those are, I think, some of the hard realities.
And then not to be cynical, but just again, I just turned 50.
Happy birthday to you.
I just turned 50.
And those are just the realities of just running business.
You know, like most fail and failure really, you know, in some ways we need a little bit more of like a internal postmortems and retros of around, you know, what did we do these past couple of
years that just worked incredibly well? Like when we were really firing, what were the, what was
true? And then what did we ignore and what aren't we doing still or
what are the obstacles or blockers that really allow return to finance to act and be a lot bigger
than it is because even as you're thinking about you know right now real world assets is kind of
like a buzzy term right i mean we're all in the real world asset business but when you talk to
the dgen real world asset people they're looking at us like you're not real world assets you're
not that interesting you know because you're not going to make me a bunch of money, you know, and we've got to be in that like fine line of holding the principles and also being able to tell a good story of like, you know, people can make money, run great businesses, have verified impact, and we can scale to millions of people.
Like those kinds of things all need to be like things that we can say to ourselves of people. Those kinds of things all need to be things
that we can say to ourselves
and design around every single day.
So I think there's a little bit of like,
we've got some scarring now,
we've got a little reality check,
we've got some really interesting components
that are still here and appear to be durable.
And we've got some in web three technology,
when it comes to a web two interfaces
are becoming much better and easier. And there's also the barriers between blockchains even are starting to lower as it becomes more Web3 becomes flatter and less siloed. just easier to do those things in the very near future compared to, you know, a few years
back when we were, you know, it didn't really matter, right?
We were just like young and, you know, precocious and excited and we were just doing our thing.
And now it's like, okay, roll up the sleeves, you know, shake off all the dust from just
getting beat up for a little bit.
And now let's go forward, but let's be serious and disciplined and help each other out and
know that incremental steady improvement is the name of the game. Well said and happy birthday. Thanks
for your wisdom to the community. That's exactly why we wanted to have this episode to talk about
the realities of building a business versus the aspirational kind of ideological visions that the community has. And Sandra, what's your take
on where the region space is headed? Well, I mean, I think we just need to be easy on ourselves
because we are still babies, you know, in the big scheme of things, you know, we don't have the
maturity of the established financial institutions. And DGEN space and the DeFi space has, because of that money,
has definitely accelerated and evolved to a much, in terms of volume and transactions,
a much bigger place than where we are in refi. But I guess I just tend to look at it like we're
still early and we are still learning those lessons and integrating those lessons. And
yeah, it has been this big experiment of how do you DAO, right?
How do you do this? And, you know, as with a lot of people that are in multiple projects or
are still trying to maintain a day job. So, you know, I think that we're going through,
you know, all the standard growing pains of what entrepreneurship is about, you know, which is,
you know, how do you make it work while you're still, you know, funding yourself? You know,
are you paying yourself? All of these things are, you know, I think that just as the idealists that we are, you know, maybe we don't think about those things. We just want to put everything into the cause. And so, yeah, I think that now is really the time for that maturity to, you know, take shape and for us to, you know, integrate the more well-known, you know, startup models. I mean, I think seeing things like A16 and some of the more traditional incubators from Silicon Valley and their involvement in the space, some of the things that are happening on the agent side with AI.
I think that's very exciting. has come into the world now at a place where it's so perfect for us as ReFi founders,
which we're trying to do so much, our founders in general,
you know, have, be able to, you know, really have or act as teams.
But now we have this help with AI.
So I think that we're going to see those support systems that we build around ourselves with AI
are just going to be able to, you know, help us accelerate that much faster where we can be that two person, that five person team that gets things done. And yeah,
I do think that, you know, the things that I see taking shape and us all taking a lot more
seriously are things like metrics, impact tracking, and, you know, making sure that we've got, you
know, from, you know, one activity to another, that we are, you know, getting all those impact metrics proven, put on the blockchain, and put into perpetuity for the
future so that other people can learn from these footprints that we're building now from these
templates that we're building now. So I think it's really, we've been in the building space
and creating these templates, I see a lot of these templates actually happening, like in the region
coordination space with Refi DAO, which has done so much, has helped us with Refi Tulum.
Just having these organizational guides for new founders, for people that are operating at a local level.
How do they implement these things?
What are the things that we can do to strengthen our own organizations in terms of how do we go out to government partnerships or potentially corporate
sponsorships, things of that nature. I see more and more of that interest coming in.
So I'm very optimistic for the space. I guess that just is part of my idealistic DNA. But I just see
that we just need to be patient while still accelerating everything. And yeah, being more
collaborative and taking those lessons from each other
that will help us get to the next level.
Thanks for offering more of an optimistic take on this.
From what I'm hearing is we really need to focus
on building sustainable business models.
And as exciting as AI is in all these tech developments,
technology on its own is all gonna
create those sustainable
businesses right and to the point Dave that you were saying how do we connect impact and make it
profitable while scaling other examples of this actually working like how do we build those
sustainable business models and the second thing that I'm seeing and correct me if I'm wrong is for
the space to scale and become sustainable and continue growing
and attracting more and more people. We need to build partnerships and legit partnerships,
right? Not like you said, performative partnerships. So how do we do that?
Well, I think on the, I guess there's a couple of things, you know, and Sandra mentioned it,
and I think it's still worth like, there are a bunch of age old practices, you know, and Sandra mentioned it, and I think it's still worth like there are a bunch of age old practices, you know, in traditional business that are just worth revisiting,
I think, for our community, as a whole of just a discipline around, you know,
you know, use a lean canvas or use any XYZ business development frameworks off the shelf
to really help you ask questions of yourself of, you know, who are you building for? What's their pain point?
You know, what's the target market?
What's your total available market?
Who are your competitors right now?
What are they offering?
Have you talked to any of, you know, the customers of those competitors?
Can you provide something better?
Like there's this, you know, and again, some, you know, I assume there's a fair amount of
us who have done some version of that or the other, but we still end up falling, I think,
maybe in this early phase, again, as of experimentation, because I think that's on
Pointworks. We've been in a deeply experimental phase, which has been exciting, but I think we're
in a realism phase now, is where I feel like we're moving into. And the realism phase, I think,
demands that we hold, especially if we think of ourselves as a movement, right? Like what are
the components of a healthy movement is, you know, and this can, we can touch on Regent Brand Commons,
you know, it's just as an example of like, are we there yet? Or are we just shy of that? Like,
is that a good thing for the movement or do people have different opinions? But the idea that,
that we have, you know, some shared values that we can hold ourselves accountable,
that we're stronger when together than we are apart, and that also we're willing to make some compromises on all of our
individual dreams for the sake of pushing a whole forward, right? And that we are in the business of
maximizing the highest potential of each of our projects and each of the humans within them
and creating these more elegant designs that nest with each other, you know, so that we can attract the energy and the capital.
Like even all of us going out, you know, scratching and clawing for, you know, $10,000 on
Gitcoin. Thank goodness it exists, you know, compared to like the job of like raising $10
million, you know, it's like, you know, what is, what's the distance? How far are we from some of our organizations to be able to do that? And really start to create some market leadership that allows a big enough wake behind it in a good way that creates some more conditions. These other smaller experimental projects have a place to like breathe, experiment. They have some infrastructure they can work with.
You know, so those are like questions that are running, you know, running through my
head right now and thinking about this next phase.
And then, you know, I'd say, you know, more, more broadly, you know, really thinking about
just not falling in love with our own drinking our own Kool-Aid, I guess, too much right
now.
And I'm in the realism phase. Maybe Sandra is more in the experimental phase still, but I'm in the
realism phase. I want like, I want hard lessons from people right now. Somebody, you know, one of
our advisors basically said that you have enough users that you are regularly getting complaints.
Like that is a sign of success. Like even like Gitcoin, you know, to their credit, they've just
built like really one of the only funding platforms. And how many people are bitching and moaning about using Gitcoin and being able to get
their funds set up and move in over here and all that. To me, that was like hindsight. I was one
of the complainers. It's like, this should be easier. But you know what? People were trying
their damnedest to fund really good projects. And Gitcoin has been constantly iterating and
trying to figure out how to design a better quadratic funding system that really speaks
to the principles and also the practical, right? The principles of like quadratic funding and,
you know, all of our small dollar voices really deserve to be amplified. And the practical of
like, how do we make it easier and fast? Where's the liquidity? Like who are our user base? How do we expand it a thing? How do we not water things too far down?
Like we need more of like that try and fail and the ability to have like enough like safe haven
to fail a little bit without frankly, all of us, you know, all of us individually just, you know,
living paycheck to paycheck, you know, like, oh God, I can't afford to fail there. It's like,
we need more spaces to afford to fail that. And part of that is building enough respect in
the space to attract capital, to house and ensure that we've got enough of a sandbox to continue to
build. Because right now we're living off of, frankly, a bunch of incredible human beings who
are working extra jobs, who are scraping by and are mission driven. And that's
why I tell people all the time is like, look, the refi space, you know, and I, with all due
respect to cockroaches, we're a bunch of cockroaches, like you are not going to get
rid of us. We are not going anywhere. We are absolutely dedicated. We're mission driven,
values driven, and it doesn't matter hell or high water, which comes at us, we're going to be there
no matter what. And that's why we're going to succeed in the end. Now I'm interested, how do we speed that up? How do we have a little less
pain, a little bit more scalable success so that the other entrepreneurs who are coming behind us
have a more right, beautiful area to work with that allows for rapid expansion? So I'll stop
there, but that's where some kind of thoughts off the top of my head. Amazing. Yeah, I would say I'm like, not necessarily it's still I told the lines between
idealist and realism. But yeah, I think that one of the things that I see happening is holding
ourselves more accountable, you know, those metrics, and I would say, maybe we're not
cockroaches, maybe we're turtles. Turtles are endangered. Well, we're hoping to change that.
But also, you know, just the fact that you know
also mimicking nature right i mean like regeneration is not something that happens
overnight we have to you know some seeds like an avocado tree takes seven years to actually
bear fruit so you know we do have to give ourselves that patience but you know also with
like you said creating these foundations, the business foundations, the structures, the collaborations and extensions. I think that like also, you know,
you know, having a little bit of like fun and creativity, I think is something that we definitely
have also, I think going for us, you know, the meme wars, you see, you know, people like James
McGee, who has been doing some really awesome stuff with liquidity pools and memes for trees,
you know, just the energy that somebody like a Jimmy Cohen brings with, you know,
funding for planting trees. And I think that, you know, leaning into that creativity,
leaning into the story, the storytelling, the artwork, the beauty, the education around the
planet, those are the things that I'm leaning into and sharing and, you know, things like a
turtle that goes to the shores of Shan Khan after 13 years of being at sea to come and lay their
eggs where they were hatched, where they were born. So I think, you know, stories like that
are the things that I think are that pull people in. From the infrastructure perspective, I would
love to see there's so many people that want to support us, but that, you know, it really is too overwhelming, you know, crypto, I haven't been able to get my
mom, for example, to be onboarded into crypto, I don't think she has any desire, but just you want
to help, you know, what we do just want to help fund beach cleanups, of course. And so being able
to provide those other funding avenues for the people that still do love the planet, but you
know, maybe they just don't care, we can't force everybody to, you know, adopt crypto. And so, you know, we have to, you know, also look at the,
you know, alternative mechanisms for funding, which are, you know, a PayPal or, you know,
nonprofit right now we're, you know, applying for, to work with a nonprofit in the U.S. We can
actually accept U.S. dollars to, you know, provide those tax benefits to donors. So yeah, I think it's a little bit of all the above.
We just have to be creative, look at the inspiration that we get from others and what we're seeing
working in the space, and then be open to other people that want to help us that aren't
necessarily in our world yet.
I love it.
I would call this creative realism, the framework that we should
probably incorporate in our operations based on both of your takes. And speaking about, you know,
challenges of onboarding your mom or applying to be a nonprofit in the US, you know, back to that
point of collaborating with institutions, but also collaborating with the communities. And both of you do a lot of work in those areas.
You know, Refi Tulum, you're very hands on the ground, organizing those beach cleanups.
Region Network is also doing an incredible job actually going into the rainforest of Ecuador in Colombia
and talking to land stewards rather than, you know, just posting about it on Twitter.
land stewards rather than, you know, just posting about it on Twitter. So from your experience doing
all that community building, what are some of the realities of doing that kind of work of
collaborating with people on the ground? Can you share maybe some successes and failures
of that process? Sandra, do you want to? Yeah, I mean, it's a challenge. You know,
it's definitely a challenge getting people. There's a lot of curiosity around what is, you know, how do I get paid for, you know, doing great work for the planet. But a lot of people are just motivated to do it. You know, honestly, the beach cleanups, we really don't need any additional incentive because, you know, where we go is so beautiful. And it really is such a spiritual experience to be cleaning these polluted, but once pristine beaches.
And then, yeah, things like the Shlum Crypto Fest, where we had a very active presence.
We collaborated with Kingfisher Media and also Unlock Protocol.
And we organized some events, also Pizza DAO.
And so we brought people in to, we had an It's Raining Tokens event. So we brought people in, but it like, you know, we were able to onboard, you know, 30 people, get partners that we have that we've been able to negotiate the use of these tokens for things like a day zero festival ticket until like we can get
And so we brought people in to, we had an It's Raining Tokens event.
that, you know, economy expanded. It's going to be a little bit of a road. I think we probably
just need to have some stakeholders that are dedicated to those kinds of business development
efforts. So yeah, it's going slower than what we would like. But, you know, again, still, you know, lots of promising signs of interest. And then, you know, just like the hiccups that you get along the way, like when, you know, one wallet doesn't work in, you know, for somebody that's from Mexico versus somebody that's from the United States, or what exchange they use, or, you know, how do they import these funky tokens into their wallets? All of that is just, you know, very tedious steps that you really need to hold people's
hands along the way, in addition to like having them understand the basic concepts of cryptocurrency
and why and how it could be interesting and important to them and something that could
help them, you know, long term for, you know, future wealth generation.
So, you know, I think it's not easy work and it's tedious. But I think just
continuing to go down the path and finding the tools that do have those interconnections between
the blockchains, for example, that's where the knowledge sharing comes in from all these different
DAOs that we participate in and can learn from. So yeah, you know, I think that it's hard. Sometimes it doesn't
work. Sometimes you don't give a fuck. Sorry, I don't know if you just swear. And yeah, and then
for the people that do, you know, it's that follow through. So yeah, there's still lots of challenges.
But you know, little by little, I think that we are, you know, starting to build this more
traction in the movement. Maybe picking up, I think my colleague Gregory, he often mentions the speed of trust.
And the speed of trust in this space also works slow, right?
And when you're speaking with communities in the Global South in particular, where arguably, you know, more well-heeled global northerners with capital come in with the latest technology to come save a community or whatever.
I mean, and I think our community of refi is far more advanced as far as our understanding of how
that works. But still, we're dealing with a legacy of misinformed or just poorly executed
ways of engaging communities in the global south where arguably the most important ecosystems that
we all depend on are still intact and under
dire threat. So to come into a community, to build a relationship, which is in person,
to sit in governance councils, to sit in circle and to sit, you know, and then let alone start to
introduce private keys or introduce, you know, being sitting there waiting, you know, for a transaction to finish or to
explain a multi-sig, you know, just the obstacles that we have impressively dealt with as a
community of, I think, solutions-oriented humans, engaging other communities that may
not have been exposed or as deep in the lingo.
Like, I've got nothing but, like, respect for all of us in this space who understand the power of what we're doing,
dealing with really clunky, clumsy tools.
And then, but just sitting and working with communities
to build this like this rapport and this trust
that as the technology is so rapidly improving
and AI is helping out and all these things,
it won't replace and it won't speed up the trust processes.
And that's in some ways important, right?
There's like when you shortcut trust, you just create problems downstream that are going
to be really impactful.
So that, you know, there's just like this deep human, like how do you, what is it to
build trust in the community?
What does it look and feel like?
And then how do we come in behind that trust with solutions that are easy to use, that are contemporary in their application, and that, frankly, outcompete other things for attention, right?
This is an attention economy, no matter where you are, right?
Because there's other things that people can click and do and have more rewarding experiences, whether it's psychological, social, or financially.
And that's heavy competition for us in Web3, right? We're coming in with meaning and with promises of revenue for verified good work.
And people love that concept, but where we end up losing folks is in the application
over time, right?
Because it all takes time.
And we say, just go to my Telegram channel, my Discord.
And people are like, okay.
And then they go there once and they're like, oh God, this is a hellhole. I don't want to deal with this or I don't have the time or I couldn't
even log on or whatever. And so we, you know, I think similarly, I think we inadvertently put up
a bunch of obstacles to build that trust and to build like long-term rapport. I think to Sandra's
point, one of our saving graces, I think we do all generally a good job of convening humans in person,
but we're also a global community flying all over the place.
And just the time and energy to do that takes time.
So there's like, let's sit and be patient, but let's rapidly iterate.
Let's sit and be patient.
Let's not forget what trust is built on, the human relationships, being good to your word
and delivering on what you say you're going to do.
And also be realistic about how fast the technology can move to create an experience that's
easeful, joyful, delightful, and materially impactful, right?
Because we've got to fulfill a lot of those things.
So we're working with a bunch of early adopters, all of us, and they should be getting flowers
from us constantly just for putting up with all of us putting up with like, look, we know this isn't quite perfect yet.
We know it's not great, but it's really just trust us and stick with us. Right. That's how all movements are built.
We have early adopters and then we can build as the product gets better.
phase of like, be realistic, choose some really good lanes, try to go, you know, be really good
at one thing, and then build out on top of that. Right. And you know, like, and even to like Jimmy,
you know, I'll respect Jimmy, all the work that you're doing out there. Like, Jimmy's like, look,
I'm playing mangrove trees, like, I'm gonna stick those little things in the ground. And we're gonna
talk about it over and over again. And then we're gonna the web three stuff, like, how many people
are thinking about that? And part of the story? Nobody for the most part,
right. You know, to his little crew here. Yes. But the story he's building is around verified
impact because you can see a mangrove tree go in the soil. Right. And he's working with communities
who are excited and his energy is infectious. You know, so we need to keep like empowering
those ambassadors while we're coming in behind the jimmies of the world
with technology and concepts that really work
and that delight at their core.
This is a word I want us to think about
in the refi space.
We need to delight our customers.
If your customer is not delighted,
you need to ask why and get the hard advice
and then keep iterating until you delight your customer.
This is like rule number one in product development.
Until they're delighted, you know, you've got things to work on and don't stop.
Because that's where we get to really find these things that just like all of a sudden we've got that growth, the growth of impact, which we all want to look like this, let alone the business models.
I like that.
And also, you know if your customers delight or not by engaging with that
customer directly. And back to that point of building trust and really talking to these people,
right, sitting in those circles with them, rather than just engaging in telegram groups, right? This
is, I think, something that is often forgotten is that technology heavy circles like it's so much emphasis on the tech and we forget along the way that we are humans and the way people build trust
between humans is not necessarily through blockchain right is through knowing you as a
person having track record being understanding of the needs and having the compassion and not
coming with those imposed
solutions. So I'm definitely a big proponent of doing the work by engaging these communities and
doing some of that capacity building that's very much needed. And kind of going off of that doing
rather than talking. Dave, you know, I really wanted to touch on this. And Sandra, I'm curious
if you follow this recent development, I personally did not go to east denver but followed the recent sort of regen drama or development call it what it
is you know the fact that the conference was themed around regeneration the year regenerates
but there wasn't much of programming dedicated to kind of the region v5 space and then gregory
from region network suggested creating the region comments, right? This decentralized IP model, the region comments, which is a decentralized brand comments that is needed to avoid region washing.
about what it means to be regen over doing the important work
over going into the communities?
Is that something we should focus on?
Can you maybe provide the rationale for why we need to dedicate
all the energy towards creating the regen commons as a concept?
Yeah, sure. I'm happy to give an update there.
So yes, I think there's obviously history here
where I think the regen network team, where I think the Regen Network team,
which I've been a part of, has been from day one trying to build a technological commons.
So it's been part of the vision.
And to be fair, this little bit of the spark that really allowed the full bloom of the
conversation happened because ETH Denver chose Year of the Regenerates and had zero programming
around what we would consider regeneration.
And so that kind of sparked more of the defensive position, right? Which is,
hey, you're saying regen and regenerate, we've been building everyone in this space that's
listening here a long time and working our butts off and to have, you know, some actor come in and
not like even pay lip service, essentially, at least at the beginning, to programming in what does it look like to, you know, go from a degen to a regen, you know,
to really imbue our interactions with ecological health, you know, was a little bit offensive,
you know, and in some ways, like was a reminder that all this stuff that we're building could be
co-opted by larger actors who are more well-heeled. And this isn't to put Eat Denver on the spot,
because frankly, they, I think, reacted pretty well.
But it was because we acted as a group in some ways.
You know, like the actors in the space came together and said,
hey, we think actually there's a better way to do this.
Here's what regeneration means to us.
This is what this could look like.
And Eat Denver's organizers and the sport, to their credit, acted immediately.
Again, it was with some friendly cajoling on Twitter and whatnot or on X.
But it was the idea that we all pulled together and we all had a common voice around a set of values, which allowed us to be much bigger than we were.
And I think that's a common theme of what the region brand commons is aiming to do.
And I think that's the common theme of what the region brand commons is aiming to do.
But let's assume the goal is to be less defensive and more on the side of like, what can we do together to secure more resources, to create some basic principles and guidelines to support all of the region projects coming in to give them a support structure and some infrastructure at the brand level with shared
IP or all the way to like, does Regen Brand become top of funnel for resources and speaking
to even larger groups of people?
What's up, EZ?
Welcome back, friends.
We got a bit riggedy rubbed, but ain't nothing we can't revitalize.
Regenerate.
EZ, you trying to say something?
Maybe EZ's just trying to give me a high five.
I'm trying to say something.
Are you now?
I am.
Did you tell EZ to raise his hand for you?
No, JimmyCohen.eth, right?
That's where I'm sending this.
Jimmy Groen.
Oh, the NFT.
Oh, yeah, that works.
JimmyCohen.eth.
That me.
And you sent me your wallet, Addy.
That is your MetaMask Correcting Monies.
You told me I'm doing it right.
Yes, sir.
Thank you so much. And then just have it sent directly to your walletamask correct. You told me I'm doing it right. Yes, sir. Thank you so much.
And then just have it sent directly to your wallet.
Super helpful.
Super helpful.
Yeah, so.
I had to take some AVAX and send it to Coinbase and swap it for ETH and then send some ETH I had on base so I can pay for the gas.
To use SquidRouter to move my globe from ETH to ARB.
Good old Squid.
Can I jump in for a sec?
Yes, you may. Good, sir.
I'm on a very short leash right now.
I got my grow pass.
Okay.
Also, in about five minutes or so, maybe ten at the most,
I'll be doing a deep dive on the Artisan Live
showcase, which they do every Friday. And I think I did a reply mentioning it. I tried to on the
computer, but the computer's acting up. And if anybody, you know, I don't want to pull people
necessarily out of this, but it's not a Twitter space. You can open up the Artisan in another tab
or window. And if you even just make a comment in the chat,
you will receive 500 points.
That is basically 500 votes.
Vote for Impact Concerts.
Oh, Hundo.
We got to raid you.
If anybody does want to swing by,
I'm going to have, I think, like a 40, 45-minute segment.
Obviously, you don't have to stay the whole time.
I think Jose is going to join me and play a few tunes.
And like I said, that's just in a few minutes.
So would love any support that people could swing through, get your 500 votes, and share
them all over.
Yep, 100%.
Put it on there.
Definitely, we should all vote for you.
Also, maybe we could even, I don't know, port the audio into here, maybe?
I don't know. I don't know, port the audio into here maybe? I don't know.
I don't know.
Just an idea.
I'm sure they would be plenty fine with that.
Really good peeps over at Artisan.
But yeah, so keep growing.
If I see you over there or you port it in, that would be super dope.
And of course, if anybody comes over, makes a comment, you get 500 votes.
And I could definitely use the support getting up the ranks
over there we got you amigro okay uh can you put it in our jumbotron our garden jumbo garden
i will put it up in the garden right now
excellent
uh you cut out right as you said right now.
Assume that's okay.
Oh, yeah.
Computer acting up.
Yeah, it's okay.
All right.
Put it up there.
All right.
We got 12 more minutes of regeneration if we want to continue with this.
Otherwise, Will T, how do you want to grow?
Should we wrap this up?
Swap me out to my proper role, first and foremost?
Grow hosting?
Yes.
And then secondly,
what the?
All right, so I'm just looking at something on SquidRider.
Nice.
Okay.
Grow okay.
Okay, I'm going to grow host.
So yeah, grow host is first. Let's go back to the podcast for 12 more
minutes then we can get over to what easy's doing i can manage that on my end you can grow to bed
if you'd like i'm grow okay or you can manage it on your end because you got more of a quiet
environment and you have a roadcaster i'll just huh
yeah i do have a roadcaster which is pretty handy dandy yeah yeah so you can do that on your end
do the switch out and then when it's done with easy's emphasis i'll just uh shut you off beautiful
okay oh grow okay i have not gotten a grow host invite yet.
Sorry, I haven't sent it yet.
There we go.
Okay, fair enough.
Artisan.
I'm going to quote tweet this and say,
vote
impact
impact
concert.
Why does it tell me price impact
is above 5%?
For what?
32 Glow on Squid Rider.
Probably USD Glow is a bit less popular.
Maybe try to swap it with something else if you have something else.
I don't know.
Squid Rider usually has all the things.
Yeah, I know. You can't
do chain-to-chain hops, though.
Yeah, well, let me know the final price.
Right?
Yeah, I'm just going to see. Hopefully, I've got
enough gas for these.
Five stops fee, seven cents.
That's not too bad. Five stops, though?
Wow.
What does that mean?
Oh, not enough ETH.
Why not enough ETH?
Do you want me to just send you ETH?
Hold on.
I got to see what I've got in here.
Ethereum.
Oh, I know why.
Ethereum.
Ethereum.
Guys, the only failure in life is the failure to participate.
I should have enough ETH for this.
Maybe I'll just have to disconnect, reconnect.
The only failure in life is the failure to grow.
I agree.
Ain't that the truth?
Because if you fail and you grow, you gain.
Oh my god.
You can connect to Cosmos, Bitcoin, and Solana now directly through Metamask.
And Salami, right?
Yeah, I'm surprised there's no Solana in the native bridge on Gitcoin
because they're using Squid Router.
That would have been a very easy onboard Ethereum.
Well, you know, there's a few pump fund competitors in Gitcoin this round. easy on board to Ethereum. Oh, well.
Well, you know, there's a few pump fund competitors in Gitcoin this round.
Maybe that's going to win.
I mean, yeah, the top one,
top, top, I don't know.
They got like 800 votes or something.
The HydroPad.
HydroPad's only got like a couple hundred followers,
but they have 800 votes.
Oh, Hydropad.
How did you do that?
That's the one Angela's working with.
Angela?
Yeah, they've been super great supporters of tree jams.
We love them.
How do they know?
What do they do?
Well, they just groanated.
And then they posted about it.
But if you look at their feed, they like retweeted like five of our things.
You're dodging the question like a politician.
What does HydroPet do?
Oh, they're like a pump fund, basically.
Same shit.
What does that mean?
They're a token deployer?
Oh, no, okay.
I shouldn't say same shit.
Because they have multiple networks, right?
A bunch of Ethereum-based networks.
And they have something a little bit more secure, like you can't
rug the
liquidity pool in their
platform. I didn't even think that was possible with
PumpFun, though.
I don't think that was the issue.
So like they burned the keys for the LP?
Something like that, yeah.
Lock it. Pop, lock, and
drop it. Okay, let's continue this
thing, and I'm going to send you.
Then you're going to switch this over to EZs.
12 grow.
I'll take it from there.
Okay.
Grow okay.
When his is done.
Yeah.
Word.
In larger industries.
Yeah.
Around what regeneration looks like and how it can show up.
show up. And I think it's like, to me, I'd like want to keep us focused personally. And why I'm
And I think it's like, to me, I'd like want to keep us focused personally.
excited about it is what's possible for securing more resources and being better at organizing a
bunch of smaller actors toward a shared goal versus like policing. You know, Maya, if you had
a neat, cool project and you're like, do I need to like pay a toll, you know, to come to be a
regen? You know, I'm doing good work. It's, you know, ecological repair be a regen you know i'm doing good work it's you know ecological repair like
what level of oversight do i really need that's a valid question and if that's what the regen brand
commons ended up being it's probably a waste of time if it's more of like hey let's organize
ourselves and make sure that your project has immediate access to a network of actors that have
been through you know hell and back that they have established some shared goals and objectives,
that we have IP that is off the shelf,
ready for you to use to scale your business
and to connect you to a community
that wants to see you succeed
and that we have just a little bit more
formal infrastructure and organizing.
That's exciting to me.
And again, maybe we become oblivious
as we grow and scale.
But I'd love to have that problem.
I think right now, frankly, I think what we're doing isn't working great, you know, and it's because, you know, we're still pretty disparate.
I think ReFiDAO has tried so hard and has done incredible work at providing some common threads for us to stick together.
So kudos to you, Teresa,
and other folks who have been
kind of continuing to hold the torch.
And what does it look like to,
is there another step for us
to like grow up as a movement?
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is just having a tough time one second here we go and
what does it look like to is there another step for us to like grow up as a movement
is regen brand commons maybe just something to think about and maybe it spurs some other ideas
but that conversation is going to tell us a lot about who we are like who we are now what we're
ready for and where we think we could go next. So I think the part that we
should consider, keep moving, is what does the dialogue look like? What are the kind of
existential questions as we step back and look at our movement as a Regen community? Can the Regen
brand commons really be additive to that? Or is it a distraction? Is it a bureaucracy? If it's a
distraction bureaucracy and we all collectively agree with that, let's just keep moving.
Right. And keep growing and building.
But I'm not under any assumption that what we're doing now, the way things are going is going to accelerate us probably at the speed that we want to.
Is this the right disruption?
I think that's a fair conversation.
But let's have it.
Let's have the conversation, I guess, in an organized fashion with professional support to really like harness the intellectual prowess of this group to really think through, like, where can we coordinate and at what level is really the conversation to have.
That's my opinion.
where there's an approved region brand commons,
like maybe it's a region brand commons stamp of approval
or some kind of stamp that would be provided to groups
that met a certain adherence of?
I think that's TBD.
I think there's certainly where we see region,
the region word being, if you will,
like obviously abuse or greenwash.
Like there's nice to have in a private function,
a trademark that the brand would govern in order to protect the basic sanctity of verified
ecological or regeneration and what that means at the very lowest common denominator at the higher
levels of, you know, can we turn the region brand into a trust mark? Essentially, I think that's
like, throw that to the group. And, you know, I, I think that's like, throw that to
the group. And, you know, I don't think we should rush into like any overly expansive idea that we
don't have the capacity or attention span to hold. It's like, is there a basic next leveling up as a
movement for us? Is the region brand commons one or many of one of many vehicles in order to do
that? Just like where I think RefiDAO, frankly,
stepped us up a whole level a few years ago
when it came to be of really cohering a lot of the voices.
What's the next step above that?
The brand commons, it could be some other essentially DAO
that is representative of multiple actors in the space
that are really shipping product and learning
and want to share those resources with a community of actors who have a similar vision. actors in the space that are really shipping product and, you know, learning and help
want to share those resources with a community of actors who have a similar vision.
Like those are, I think those are all great questions to ask and answer together.
Sandra, I'm actually curious to hear your take and your, maybe a quick reaction to this
as we wrap up.
And I specifically am curious about your reaction to one of the comments to Gregory's post about,
you know, establishing region comments
by the founder of Regents Unite who said, and I quote, there's no such thing as a region brand
that could be owned by anyone or any organization, yet alone licensed. Anyone should be able to use
the word region as they please in the same way that anyone can use the word degen. Who are we as a community to already
start setting boundaries and licensing conditions before we have even made a dent in the regeneration
of our planet? Wow. Yeah. I mean, a lot of truth to that. Who are we? Who are we? But I don't think
that what I understand the region brand commons, and I don't have that much information. I wasn't
at East Denver, but I did follow a little bit of what was happening.
To me, I feel like it's a guideline, right?
It's not necessarily something that there's going to be somebody cracking the whip or
the police coming after you for misusing the word region.
But if there's a certain caliber or a certain level of standards that we want to go with
the word region, then we can establish
those. It's not any, you know, people don't have to follow it, right? Nobody needs like, we do,
like we do live in a decentralized world. And, you know, all these nodes are acting independently,
especially, you know, within the refi DAO network. But, you know, and we're all pursuing, you know,
what makes sense at the local level. So, you know, and yeah, who am I to say, you know, you can't, that's not your word, you know, but at the same time, if there's a standard and, you know,
enough of us adopt that and say, yeah, this is what it means to be regen, at least for us, at
least for me, at least within this community. And this is something that we would like other people
that are using this word to aspire to, you know, without necessarily the police activity, I think that there's not a problem with that.
You know, and it's about having, you know, these shared definitions for, you know, where we're moving.
And if we don't start at the same place now, you know, how can we expect other people to understand what that place is or, you know, how to join us or how to grow from there?
to grow from there. So I think that there's a lot of value in establishing the standards, you know,
maybe again, without the, you know, the hard consequences of misuse that, you know, at least,
you know, with within the people that want to elevate the standard and want to, I guess,
differentiate and separate themselves. You know, there is a lot of greenwashing. There is a lot of
co-opting of these terms. We've seen it happening, you know, across all of these major, you know, climate conferences and, you know, that don't have
anything regenerative happening there. Or, you know, we've got Coca-Cola as a sponsor, but,
you know, again, like we have to be a little bit open. If Coca-Cola, you know, sees that they're
a part of the problem, they want to give funds and support regenerative activities across the
planet. Then there's a lot of individuals in those companies that do care about the planet and understand the impact or want to make good on what, you know,
the negative impact has been. So I think we have to give all those people an opportunity to,
A, you know, learn, aspire to be a region and hopefully get to that level where, you know,
maybe some more mature organizations are at. Thank you for sharing your perspective. We will
have to end it on this. And I'm actually curious to leave it to the community.
What do you all think about the region comments?
Leave a comment, ask a question.
This is definitely just scratching the surface of all these possible conversations that are
to be had in the future.
I'm curious to follow along.
And as we wrap up this episode, we always end with rapid fire questions.
And since it's a special episode, these are the different rapid fire questions. And since it's a special
episode, these are the different rapid fire questions than we usually do, except Thank you. Dave, you go first. Integrating ecological health into every interaction.
Beautiful. Sandra?
I think it's starting with self-regeneration and starting with what I can do around my community.
Where can I personally have impact with these hands, with this voice?
And where can I share the regenerative values to my community?
Beautiful. What a wonderful note to conclude on.
Thank you both for coming on to this special edition of the Refi podcast for sharing your
perspectives.
I really like this kind of combination of experimentation and realism.
And as we conclude, is there anything else you want to end on?
Any calls to action for the community?
Any final words of wisdom?
Keep shipping, people.
Ship, ship, ship.
Don't stop.
Don't let anyone tell you you shouldn't be. Ship it. And don't wait for perfect. Keep shipping people. Ship, ship, ship. Don't stop. Don't let anyone tell
you shouldn't be. Ship it and don't wait for perfect. Keep shipping. I love that. I do actually
have a call to action and I'm going to lobby both of you into this action. It goes back to our dear
friend, Jimmy, who has started the cold bowl challenge. So I'm challenging both of you to do this is to raise awareness to plant a billion trees for World Environment Day.
And so if you'll give me a moment, I'm just going to get my bowl with ice cubes.
And I'm challenging you both Dave Fortson and Maya Denzel and also Samu from Gaia Agent to join this challenge with me.
All right, here we go. You're supposed to do this, I think, in the morning time to just get refreshed.
Okay, ready?
I did it.
Bravo.
And that's a wrap for this special episode
of Refap Podcast.
Let us know what you think in the comments down below.
Thank you both for coming on thank you appreciate you
i was not expecting that to end with the ice ball challenge she calls it the gold ball challenge
what did she mention me twice in that interview i was not expecting that at all. I was expecting just to pop it on.
Aw, that's amazing.
Look at Sandra.
She's so cool.
Love it.
Okay, I'm opening up Artisan.
Oh, look.
Look who it is.
It's our guy.
Quick.
We need to give the votes.
It kind of cleans the palate a little.
How do we vote?
Maybe there'll be a few get donate something for giveaways or we make some kind of
for something so it's more interactive with the crowd we'll take questions from from the audience
uh after the speaker maybe talks for five minutes we do maybe another five minutes of
dialogue diving a little deeper getting some, and then we throw on another music act.
So it's really fun.
We've got great feedback in the past.
Go to the link in the top.
All right, it is Artisan.
Open it up on another device,
and let's get this growing, guys.
Let's get it growing.
We got to vote for our guy.
He's making an impact concert happen during Let's get this growing, guys. Let's get it growing. We got to vote for our guy. He's making an impact concert happen
during Let's Grow Live.
We need to vote for our guy.
It costs nothing.
This is actually, unlike QF,
literally costs you nothing.
And you get to vote.
So make sure you vote.
We need to level up the Impact Concert.
Artisan, it's planted up in the garden.
I'm loading mine up.
I'm loading it up.
Here we go.
It's taking a surprising amount of time to load.
Wait, okay, here we go.
Here we go.
Log in to Artisan.
Bam.
We have to sign up in order to vote.
Quick, put the email, click a link in the email,
and boom, shakalaka.
I think I just got way too many things open.
Okay, sorry, Pnouns.
You're leaving.
Come on, come on.
Let's grow, let's grow.
Ooh. Come on, come on, let's grow, let's grow Come on
I think we've done either three or four
Forgiveth, the first one
We had five speakers
All five made it into the top ten earners
Out of about a hundred
The next one we bumped it up to ten
Project speakers and like twelve
Musical acts, five out of those Made it to the top ten earners Next one, we bumped it up to 10 project speakers and like 12 musical acts.
Five out of those made it to the top 10 earned.
Nice.
So he's talking about how successful the grantees were during the Impact Concert. That was out of like over 100.
The last one, same, we had 10 speakers.
Five of them got to the top 10 out of like 135 projects.
And I think the total earned, not just because of impact concerts but
i'd like to think we helped um the total earned was like 30 plus 38 000 for those uh 10 projects
so i do think that yeah it seems to be a formula that works um it's a lot of fun we're starting to
you know we've been doing them for five years I'll go into a little bit of the history.
I met Jose Cabrero, who is from Venezuela, and just an amazing person, an amazing musician.
A lot of you have probably heard him play.
He might jump in and play a song for us at some point. He's, I think, live recording with some of the Watuja tribe from the Amazon that came into Caracas.
And they've been doing some live recording.
The first time ever that there's been recordings
of their native language in song.
So like some really innovative stuff.
And about five years ago,
he had been playing a little bit
in some of the spaces that I was hosting
over in Token Smart Discord.
I've been doing a Monday show there
for over five years every week.
Well,
maybe a few weeks off.
but he would come and play music cause I would always have a music guest,
whether it's a DJ spinning live a little,
or someone doing some spoken word or rap or,
you know,
playing folk music,
whatever.
always try to incorporate that because I think it,
it helps.
It makes it more fun.
That adds a little,
a little spice to the show so he would
come off and play and he you know sort of spoke up in the community said I'm trying to raise funds
to get out to the Amazon to make a closer connection with this Watuha tribe and came up
with the idea of like let's just do a benefit concert and uh we did uh two benefit concerts and he raised well
enough money enough to like you know purchase some things to bring out uh to the tribe as well
as you know the bus tickets and all that kind of stuff um and he came back and he had made an
amazing connection and uh they have been sort of opening up to the to the wider world wanting to
share their ancestral knowledge the The shaman now,
Grandfather Rufino, is the last of his line. And so I think it's really important that we do
somehow share and document and try and save some of the culture and some of the wisdom and
knowledge that they have. So the first one, you know, was about a little over five years ago
with Jose. And then after that, we had, you know, every about a little over five years ago with Jose.
And then after that, we had, you know, every once in a while, there'd be someone with a good cause, whether it's feeding the homeless or, you know, whatever the kind of public good social impact was, we'd do a little concert.
I love it. And you're going to do one for Artithan, yeah?
Oh, yeah. Do you have a date yet?
We don't have a date yet we don't have a date it's been crazy because usually what
happens uh like for the last giveth one that was just a couple weeks ago you don't find out who is
in the round until the round is live and then it's like two weeks is the round so we got maybe 10
days to plan organize and pull this thing off um and right after that one ended uh basically got the you know the the invitation or suggested
that we do one for this gitcoin round uh with the with the tree gens with the let's grow crew
so that we only had like a week uh uh to try and plan and that goes off sunday um and so
yeah through that then we got uh uh refi costa rica wants to do one octant wants to do one um um what is the
fractal eden fractal wants to do one luckily the eden fractal one is like a couple months out
uh so i'd love to have you know uh maybe like three four weeks to plan for the artisan one
and have them a little bit spaced out if uh i'm not sure how long the current round is running. What kind of time frame
are we on?
In the next
30-ish days, we're going to be curating
the projects.
All the projects, we launched 33
new funds
yesterday. All the projects,
including yours, should try to submit to as
many of those funds as you can.
Those projects will be curated in the next month. Then there'll be about including yours should try to submit to as many of those funds as you can.
Those projects will be curated in the next month.
And then there'll be about five... Make sure you're getting all the votes set up, your profile,
so you can max vote.
This is our boy.
Like within the...
Sort of towards the end of the curation cycle,
so like a month-ish from now,
like three weeks from now maybe,
that could drum up excitement for voting for all the music-based projects
and or maybe towards the end of the funding cycle
when people are actually contributing to projects.
So I think either or both of those would be a good time to do it.
Yeah, so in like three and a half weeks could be perfect that would work
great to do the first one and then we could do a follow-up uh you know when they're when we're
well into the funding definitely want to have at least a few days of uh funding still running
because people do sometimes live they will go and and make the donations um but it's nice to give
them a few days like They can soak it in.
We'll have some document that has the list
of all the projects that spoke at the Impact concert.
They can refer back to that the next day
or the following couple days
and make their donations.
Scott, maybe we do that on a Friday
and we just tack it on to the end
of one of our showcases
to make it sort of like a super showcase.
Fantastic, yeah.
We'll make like a,
like we'll make the first part tight.
And then,
and then we can,
and then we can have like a,
a great Friday music fest.
That sounds awesome.
Loving it.
Yeah.
And that,
that is like,
you know,
even just like three weeks is like a,
a much more relaxed,
planning,
schedule than we're used to.
So yeah.
I would say like May 2nd would be the best.
May 2nd.
Okay.
May 2nd.
Making notes right here.
We're planning.
We're getting it done.
This is how impact concerts work.
Like, you know, jump into a space and maybe somebody attended one and they're like, oh,
EZ's here from the impact concerts.
And then they're like, we want an impact concert. And I'm like, when, and they're like, uh,
in about a week. And I'm like, okay, it's time to get rolling.
So I love having a little bit of time. Well, uh, you know, uh, all I need is,
uh, you know, when, when you have the information, uh,
a list basically of, uh, the,
the projects that are going to be participating in the round and then,
and, you know and maybe socials.
And then I can start reaching out to people
for seeing who can make it on that date
and then narrowing in their time frames from the time zones.
And then we lock in the schedule.
We lock in the musicians.
I think there's a lot of musicians in the artisan community,
so it would be really nice to try and bring as many of those in
and highlight them as well.
We have at least a couple of funds that are music dedicated.
One for sort of like female producers
who are using like DAWs, like Ableton.
Scott has one, which may or may not be running this season.
We've got to talk about it later today, Scott.
And there's some other like general funds that they could fit into so people that are in your community that are part of the impact
concerts uh uh you know world you should like encourage them to submit to artisan before
that showcase so that we can go for their projects and try to get them created for those uh those
funds and uh actually that that's a good good segment into a question that I've had that maybe could help others too if we talk about.
So as Impact Concerts, we don't have a tech stack.
So we're not applying for Gitcoin grants.
We use the tech.
We're basically promoting other projects all the time.
And so it's a mix.
We'll have female musicians, but I don't think we fit into the you know the program that's for uh you know focusing
on just female uh musicians or producers yeah so i was looking and it was kind of late i saw the
email i'm like oh i gotta check this out i gotta see that submit submit but and then i'm going
through geez i don't know where we fit in because we meet some criteria in multiple uh funds but it
didn't feel and i didn't get to the bottom of the list yet, but it didn't feel like there was one that was like, oh, definitely here.
Well, if you meet, if you feel like you vaguely meet the requirements of any of the funds, the name of the game is to submit to as many funds as you can.
So like, what I always suggest is like, yeah, go fund by fund.
If you feel like, oh, maybe my project could fit,
go ahead and submit. And because if you get curated for multiple funds, that's where the
match funding magic really unfolds. Because every dollar you raise from a fan is matched from each
of the funds that you're curated by. So yeah, please do go through all of them and submit
to as many as you think you might fit.
What else do you want to tell us, EZ, about Impact Concerts or yourself before I think Scott plays just a little music and we transition to our weekend?
You haven't voted yet. Quick vote. Your voting's about to close.
You get 100 votes just for setting up your profile. Click the link up on the Jumbotron. No, no, no, no, no. Great projects.
They do all kind of have like some tech they're working with, whether it's like the public litter maps people or it's the tree gens trying to break the world record of most trees planted on one day.
They're going for a billion trees planted on a day.
Jimmy tree gens.
Amazing.
Like there's so many great projects going from ocean
to forest to skies
to I've been inspired
hearing the people and what they're working on.
There's some projects that are
more for connecting the
people working in these spaces.
I would highly encourage people to check
out the Let's Grow
Live space.
Throw a link into the chat.
Okay.
So people can figure that out.
I don't want to use the phone because I don't want to lose connection.
So I'm going to slowly open the computer, open up Twitter,
and in a moment, maybe when the music starts after,
I'll throw a couple links in the chat just to keep it safe.
I want to – so, yeah, Sundayay 12 pacific 3 eastern we'll start we'll go for like four five six hours i asked my
dad for the first time ever to come and play uh i've been doing this for many years and he's gonna
play at the impact concert uh for for the first time like kind of coming into the like metaverse zone. So I've held back,
but you know, we're starting to get like, we're starting to get traction, which is really great.
We've been just doing it from a place of passion and even, you know, coming out of pocket to like
either, you know, pay musicians. We, of course we donate to every project that comes through.
It's awesome now to have a little bit of support.
I've got a Flows through flows.wtf.
And that's just, you know,
it's like a hundred bucks a month or something.
But it's great because that's a little bit
that I can use to kind of keep it
a little more sustainable.
And then we're here on Artisan.
Appreciate any votes that people throw my way.
You know, super appreciated
and going to be applying into,
as now I have great advice to apply in multiple duplicative factors here.
And then we're also on Give It.
So there's an impact concert.
Give It that people can also go if they're interested.
We're not in any round or anything. But we pretty much, you know, we'll throw an impact concert for any platform or project that's doing good work and is, you know, creative and kind of hodels that vibe.
And I want to shout out Jose, who I think wasn't able to come and play a tune.
But Jose Cabrera, my righthand man, my partner in crime, the
Venezuelan connection, he is amazing.
And yeah, so come on through to the concert on Sunday.
I will drop a link in the chat.
And thank you for your time.
I've been, I have literally, Jose, you know, turned me on to you guys, and I've been like
driving down the road in Costa Rica rica with these live streams going
uh like i think back when i was maybe on x and uh you know or actually the first one that was
broadcast here i think i was i was in the car i was doing some driving i would like stop at a
stoplight and like throw a little quick something in the chat and then keep driving uh so i'm hooked
i'm hooked on artisan i love you know the vibe and what keep driving. So I'm hooked. I'm hooked on Artisan.
I love, you know, the vibe and what you guys are building.
And I just want to say a big thank you.
Oh, thank you, EZ.
Thank you for showing up with great positive energy.
I'll try to tune in to the event tomorrow.
Encourage everyone to do the same.
I'm excited to host an Impact concert here with you
and all of the amazing musicians that you've gathered.
Thank you everyone for tuning in.
Scott, do you want to play us some music on our way out?
Absolutely.
All right. Let's grow.
That was so cool.
I love that I could vote without having to pay money.
I mean, I'm happy to do it.
I'm happy to pay the money when it gets matched 100 times.
But it was sweet.
I just set up the profile.
100 votes.
Dude, we're getting shout outs left, right, and center, man.
In the chat, Stella was dropping the Let's Grow Dow thing.
Be hosting on Let's Grow Dow in a bit.
Oh, nice.
Stella's coming through.
What are you talking about?
I'm talking about they were mentioning us on the Artisan thing. Oh, now a Stella's coming. What are you talking about? I'm talking about... They were mentioning us on the artisan thing.
Oh, now a guy's playing...
Now a guy's playing violin.
What does it matter?
I don't know, man.
There's a bunch of cool people there shouting us out.
What's it matter?
What?
Where's this grumpy will T coming from?
It's not a grumpy will T.
What's that matter?
You're supposed to say it adds to our lore, will T.
It adds to our lore.
Lore?
Lore of Let's Go Out.
Story time.
We're growing the movement, baby.
We're attracting the musicals.
Musical.
Oh, this guy's doing a violin situation.
Hello.
Oh, my Wale.
Welcome, Cece.
Much love to you.
Welcome, Neel.
Much love to you. Welcome, Cece. Much love to you. Welcome, Beere Jan. Much love to you. Welcome NetEel, much love to you. Welcome Sassy, much love to you.
Welcome BeeryGen, much love to you. Welcome MyU, welcome, much love to you.
Welcome Winstrill, much love to you. Just followed you back.
Welcome AIs. Welcome Zendigen, much love to you. Welcome Mr. McGee, much love to you. What? Remember that max impact where you had Maximilian on
did you ever have her on max impact or no Maximilian her yeah what's the project her name she's an artist no I've never had an artist
Maximilian
okay
don't ever call her Max in the space
because she will correct you on it because Maximilian
is a divine name
just FY
okay
welcome Sessy
Sessy Sakura
Sakura 007 Welcome Sassy! Sassy Sakura!
Sakura!
007!
Hi, hi, GM, GM to everyone.
Hola, girl morning.
It is morning where I am.
7.30 in the morning.
The birds are chirping.
The sun is out.
And Jimmy's about to grow to bed.
I'm an early bird, but it's only because I stay up till the early morning.
I see the early birds.
I'm like, hello.
Hello, early birds.
Hello.
This owl is past his bedtime.
Back to bed.
All right.
Hey, I don't know why they differentiate between early birds and night owls,
because owls are birds.
Think about it.
There you go.
The more you know. The more you know.
Yeah, exactly.
He's in D-Gen.
Help us break apart this discrepancy.
Early bird, night owl.
They're the same.
We are the same.
We are.
So, Ceci, are you just paving the way for Stella to come through?
Is that what's going on?
Stella announced in the chat that she's coming.
Yeah, I'm coming because she's coming also,
but we're going to be together.
So, yeah, we can wait for her.
Amazing.
Or you can tell us all about the latest with ReFi Bolivia if you'd like.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, sure. Well, the latest from ReFi Bolivia, right now we're trying to coordinate
some workshops around DSi as we're trying to connect Bolivian scientifics into DSAI. So I contacted Maria Goretti from DSAI Latam and
yeah she has a really packed schedule and obviously the scientists also have a real
packed schedule. So this is a really interesting effort to coordinate. But yeah, I'm trying to solve that
with them. So maybe we can have another date cleared for them to start organizing these workshops for
them.
Awesome.
James McGee, will you stay on stage, please?
I'll do my best.
Welcome, Mr. McGee. So what's the output of these workshops
other than getting them connected to the D-Site community?
Sorry, I'm sorry.
I'm going to shut up.
Yeah. Good night.
No worries. No worries.
Yeah, well, by connecting them to D-Site Latam, we want to onboard them into Web3.
And to start them to explore this side.
To, hey, Stella, I see you.
So obviously by that is obviously like from a beginner 101 on blockchain to obviously starting to understand what tools are being developed for decentralized
science and also how they can now start using some tools for decentralized science as everybody is like having the same pains from the science, scientific community,
much more here there has been some issues between the government and the researchers, So, at least for having them a new way of source on how to fundraise, for example, for their projects, or maybe to get published those articles that have been developed already and start using this technology, that is what
we want.
And after that, if they start thinking to get some alliances or maybe develop a project
on this side or I don't know, there are so many things that could bring like this connection.
That's something that I think the time will tell, but at least first get them connected
and get them to know blockchain, Web3 and how they can use decentralized sites.
Very cool.
Stella.
What's going on, Stella?
And Jimmy, if you're still on the LGD account, I'm going to...
Hey, one second.
Jimmy, if you're still on the LGDd account on your end i need you to mic
up please thank you stella back to you hey guys what's up nice to see you oh sissy there you are
uh what's up guys uh i'm just coming from the artisan life,
Brutally Honest.
Yeah, we heard.
We heard.
We heard your brutal honesty.
Wait, you heard?
Oh yeah.
You went and heard the brutal honesty.
Yeah.
Oh, I haven't heard.
What was the brutal honesty?
Well, she can share.
Yeah.
Actually, we just heard the
tail end of it with uh easy sharing about the impact concert so oh that part yeah that sounds
really interesting actually and at the beginning of this uh space so okay let me let me go back
for a sec okay because this is like what happened i don't know we're family and you can spill the tea
here okay yeah exactly i mean i've been i've been all the day trying to solve some crisis here so
yeah please please put me on on track oh my god what kind of crisis happened? Please tell me it's not an unlocked one. No, no, no. It's not an unlocked one.
Yes.
It's another one.
But it's really tough.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
So let me tell you something funny then.
So with my own project, which I rarely talk about, I realize,
is we have developed a product uh last year which is
called the alana magazine and it's a magazine that brings together fashion design art but also
technology business um social developments so it's kind of like a very um colorful mix uh that
is very relevant and in our opinion at least and very representative also for web3
and so last year we applied for the first time with the artisan fund and we got funded it was
a really good experience so we decided for this second edition to go into the next round again
and maybe you know generate some more funny so we can do some more cool things.
Right. And yeah.
And so one of the things that Renee from The Artisan is offering is the brutally honest space.
So you pitch your project and you get a very honest feedback round in return.
And I think I kind of like misinterpreted maybe the assignment a little bit.
I kind of misinterpreted maybe the assignment a little bit.
But it turned out to be really good.
And he's still feeling very excited about our project.
We received a bunch of new votes, which I'm super grateful for.
So yeah, all in all, it went quite good.
But there were some pretty funny moments, I think.
And yeah, so I think it got recorded, if anyone has the bandwidth to watch it.
How long have you been participating in that cohort on Artisan?
So I've been on there for the just for the second time.
And we started, I think this was like mid end year last year.
So not for so long, to be honest, because I'm one of those weird founders
who always thinks they're not ready.
So until someone gives me a good amount of push
and says, like, actually,
you're pretty much absolutely ready.
We already had released our first edition,
Entirely Bootstrap.
It's a print and digital magazine,
of course, published on Unlock Protocol.
Of course.
But yeah, this is actually what brought me to Unlock Protocol.
I'm not sure if I ever told anyone, I guess, or maybe not often enough.
Do you ever – I know that Akasha, who's part of the Let's Grow Dog community,
she used to, she had,
I think it was her PhD was published using the artisan community.
Have you come across Akasha at all or no?
Yeah, of course.
And actually women,
women only group,
well, I'm sorry.
It's the GG23 women group on Telecom.
Hey, you know what?
You know what?
Let me tell you a story.
I've gone in drag for Halloween before, so, and i won a contest over actual women so yeah well okay fine but you're
not in that group sorry no it's fine it's super cool no i just wanted to come across kasha because
she's super cool and i really like what she was working on in the region space I guess she had to pause that
and put it on the back burner because she wanted to focus more on her art and her participation
in the artisan community so but yeah super cool community from what I understand I understand
about the women only focus which I think is very necessary not only in web3 but in the creative community so yeah let's grow
let's grow you will do it I'm an ally you need me you let me know
that's so good actually I was about to make myself a snack because snacking has come short.
Grow ahead.
So I'm going to grow ahead with that, but I will be listening and speaking as soon as I have digested my little snack.
I promise.
Is Angela joining us today?
Not sure.
She didn't tell me, but she also didn't tell me last time.
So let's just hope for the best.
Okay.
All right.
Sounds good.
Ceci, back to you.
Yeah, awesome.
Yeah, I was inviting Hadle as they have recently launched their...
I saw a token launch.
Yes, the testnet, the testnet. So because they have implemented their nodes and now they are launching that testnet so then all the platform for meetings and live streams
on their meet platform will be done on the testnet so this is really cool. And I think people can benefit from using Huddle too, because first it's Web3, so you
can either connect to that platform via your email or your wallet, which is always a benefit and then um you can have like more than 100 people on your meet and record it and
have a log of all the people that has connected to to your meet so that's interesting to me
and uh well now because they have launched that testnet, they are doing some quests.
And obviously, because of participating on the quests, you will be rewarded with some HP, which are some hud really big, bigger campaign.
But I think for the way that they are like growing, I think it's interesting to pay attention to that and maybe start using also that kind of tools.
Yeah, super cool.
Actually, Jimmy and I explored using Huddle
for the video broadcast studio
and getting away from Streamlabs.
But we really just didn't have enough time
to do a thorough vetting process
of how it would connect up with our channel partners
and stuff like that, right?
But I've been following that story as well. I know about the huddle points,
which could at some point
make you eligible for a future token launch.
You know, Ceci, we use huddle for Pathways for Latam
for our leadership meeting.
And yeah, I'm going to start using huddle more.
Also, we use huddle for our unlock calls as well, our weekly calls.
So, yeah, I think there's definitely some cool benefits to it.
You can also live stream through it, and that's what we do at Unlock.
We haven't really done that yet at CAFE Media,
but we will once we get consistent participation from our leadership team.
And what we're getting for right now is perfectly fine.
So no pressure there.
We'll grow into it.
And, yeah, thanks for sharing.
So you invited them to come through the space to share what they're working on.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I invited them.
But, you know, they are on IST time zone.
So this is a really tough hour for them.
It would be like 3 a.m., so really not sure if they will be able to join us.
But I have pinged Rami and hope that he can connect.
Yeah, so they're on IST.
So give me a second here.
Get to my world clock.
Because we have
Guru. You know Guru?
Yeah, you know Guru?
Yes, Guru.
Oh, is he coming?
You don't know Guru?
I know Guru. Is he coming? Well't know guru i i know guru is he coming well not right now but he has a
regular hosting slot on here so they can come through with guru and vibe yeah so it's 316
on that side of the world so they're 11 and a half ahead of us so good and i don't think
guru has been coming through on the weekend so um but if they're looking and a half ahead of us. And I don't think Guru's been coming through on the weekend.
But if they're looking for someone else in their time zone that they can connect with
in that same time zone, he comes through at, let me see here.
Here we go, region build.
So he's coming through at 1130 AM UTC.
Just to give you some perspective.
Excuse me, what time?
11.30 a.m. UTC is when Guru comes on.
So that might be a more convenient time for them, too, because they're in the same time zone.
You know what I mean?
Yes, totally.
Totally.
Because he's in.
A.m.
A.m., right?
Yeah, 11.30 a.m. UTC.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, that would be a really great time.
Yeah, Tuesday morning for them.
But what was I gonna say? Oguro lives in Bangalore.
So do you know where they're from?
I know they are from India,
but they didn't share exact location.
So, but I can ask.
Yeah, let me think again.
Yeah, just tell them we have a lot of regions. Yeah, just tell them we have a lot of regions and
yeah just tell them we have a lot of regions in bangalore uh that would like to hear what
they have to offer so yeah sure sure sure yeah uh just wait for me a second while i am no you're
good i'm gonna check in with meme or trees while you're doing your thing. I'm going to check in with Meme4Trees while you're doing your thing, Ceci.
Howdy, howdy.
Hope everybody's doing well.
Yeah, I'm doing very well.
I picked up a little bit more.
What is it?
Let me see.
Let me see.
I got it from the open market, too.
You'll be proud of me.
I took my last four poll and exchanged it for the Cenote cleanup.
Or TAZC.
I don't know if you saw that activity or not.
Awesome.
No, I don't watch super close, but I know that it all helps.
I know they were in here talking about it the other day. Those automated systems are doing what they're meant to do, collecting those tokens.
have potential to appreciate in value.
You know,
that was a big sales pitch for Bitcoin for a long time is there's only 21
million of them,
right?
Well,
there's only a hundred and some,
cenote tokens,
you know,
cause that's how much garbage.
Yeah.
See,
there's not enough for everybody who's been in this space this week,
but that's the great thing about fractionalization
because what happened with Bitcoin is somewhere along the way
in the Bitcoin ecosystem said, oh, crap,
when we finally mint out the last Bitcoin,
there's not going to be enough to go around.
I'll use my vocabulary, grow around for everybody, right?
right so that's where ordinals and runes came about so yeah I mean it's just it's
So that's where ordinals and runes came about.
fun to collect things I'm trying to build make it more fun they'll work on
the garden got some more proposals made I'm practicing and learning I for
whatever reason I can only connect the wallet sometimes but I'm practicing and learning. For whatever reason, I can only
connect the wallet sometimes,
but I'm going to figure it out.
I don't know. Is that in your garden
setup?
Yeah.
GardenSatFund?
Yep.
Do you know what the front end
interface they're using to
engage with the wallet?
I know that when I used it on Chrome browser on my desktop, that was the one time it worked.
I got a bunch of stuff done.
And I tried it a second time.
Wallet Connect just doesn't work.
Might be their front end interface.
You might just need the standard
reconnect, refresh, reconnect.
Disconnect, refresh,
reconnect, yeah.
Because I've been having issues with Privy
on that too, so...
And that's my
workaround for that.
I'm going to try to get
into their matching
pools, and we're going to try to get into their matching pools
and we're going to try to do some
token-weighted voting for building
liquidity for impact assets.
The meme battle, we should be able to get at least
$3,000 or so. They said
that they could match up to a couple
thousand dollars. We'll see how
that works. Obviously, you've got
to go through the steps to qualify or whatever, but I'm interested, you know, extra money to support more good stuff.
That's the short midterm plan as far as continuing to look for funding.
midterm you know plan as far as like continuing to look for funding but also just having fun
making up stories and i think that once people get involved with the signaling pools that it
could be a lot of fun uh to see what people come up with uh and see what we're what stories we're telling and what stuff we're helping.
Yeah, everybody should go join the garden.
You need at least one Durgan Dynasty to bloom,
which is less than a penny.
You can afford it, guys.
And that's on Polygon?
Yeah, it's on Polygon.
Yeah, I got to reach out paul and see when they're
gonna add cello now that cello isn't it oh they have cello never mind gardens on cello refi dial
garden farm block gardens on cello and oh okay those like test ones okay cool because we're
gonna set up a uh we're gonna set up a garden on Sela.
Well, if you're going to do some funding stuff with it,
you should look into it sooner than later
because Sela just gave another $3,000 for matching funds
for encouraging people to use garden.
Yeah, I know.
I know that one pool is running until...
Well, you have to get your garden set up by the 7th, so...
We'll definitely have a garden set up on there before the 7th, so...
We will be taking a look at it.
What's up, Blue?
Coming over with a hot mic?
No, I thought you were coming over.
What are you talking about?
No, I guess.
All right.
Hey.
I don't know what's going on.
Yeah, go ahead.
Are you good? Yeah, sure. I got got my snack i'm a little bit more fueled than i was 10 minutes ago oh nice we're just talking about um we're just talking
about the communities that are using gardens.fun as a community gathering place, but it also has some governance mechanisms
built into it, but it also has funding mechanisms built into it as well, and the community can
influence the funding and the voting. There's different voting methodologies on there,
like conviction voting or quadratic voting, or have you seen any of this at all, Stella?
or quadratic voting or have you seen any of this at all, Stella?
Yes, and I know about that project.
Have I tried it? No.
Am I on it? No.
Probably worth exploring, though.
But I think that's one of the problems we often face in this space.
It's just too much to explore and too less time to do it.
I feel a lot like that,
let's just say. Well, let's just say one of the
governance tokens on there is GROW.
Now, I don't know if that's our GROW or if that's a different
GROW. I would imagine it's that's our grow or if that's a different grow.
I would imagine it's that Let's Grow, Dow Grow token, reputation token.
I would hope.
James, do you have some insight on that?
Are you still talking about gardens?
Uh-huh.
You can use any ERC-20 token as your governance token.
I just plugged the Durgan Dynasty to Bloons and was like, let's build it.
No, I understand that, but I'm just saying in their drop-down list, right?
So in this drop-down list, they have a list
of governance tokens.
That's one of them.
You know anything about that?
I know nothing.
Other than I'm trying
to have fun with it, and I think it'll be fun
I already was like here's a whole list
of stuff that I think would be nice to have
you said that
very sarcastically
well I just feel bad
because Molly's like here's like they're working
so hard on this thing and I'm like you know what would make it
better like as soon as I come
in there
oh my gosh so you know what would make it better? Like a CineSite come in there. Oh my gosh.
So you know something about it then?
Yeah, I mean, I've been trying
to practice and learn stuff.
I set up a funding pool
which I need to play with more
to learn how to use it.
I set up several signaling pools.
You can say you want to build
schools,
the glow root, plantations, you want to build schools the glow root
plantations you want to build
fortresses
you want to build arms and armor
siege engines
you know support the druids
or the airships
each one of these actually
is a different impact asset as well
but just narratively that's
one here we grow Here we grow.
Here we grow. We've got the official
post from the
Let's Grow DAO account
for the Impact
concert on Sunday.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Look at that.
Nice.
Good stuff. 1900 UTC. nice good stuff 1900 utc when it starts probably gonna grow four or five hours maybe longer we'll see some good people get opportunity to tap into it if they want come and grow they can come and
grow as they please and there is no parking so you don't
have to get a parking pass you don't have to pay for parking you just show up and enjoy isn't that
so cool stella you want to give us a preview of what to expect coming up in three minutes sure what's coming up a little bit uh use case talk of unlock protocols coming up
um so kind of introduce a few different uh approaches to what can you actually do with
protocol um but also i just really wanted to show off my decentraland garment which i just
found out it was designed by chang pang and it's very inappropriately the outfit is linked up in the
in this space so you guys want to check out my cool Decentraland outfit for Metaverse Fashion Week this week.
This is it and I can proudly say I was accompanied today by the famous Metaverse model Tang Poco.
She actually took me on a little bit of a spree so I had a lot of fun doing that and was quite a
nice change of pace from you know everything that we're usually doing here.
So, yeah, I don't know if you're interested, but the outfits, I just love it so much.
And I tried out, I think, all emotes at my disposal and the weight painting,
the movement of the garmin along the body was just really really well done so anyways
I'm gonna shut up but yeah we're gonna talk a pro to protocol use cases today and I can make an
official introduction maybe this time and start with that instead of just assuming everyone should
know you want me to get started well I feel like you like you've got 30 seconds, so I want to do some shout-outs to the listening audience.
Shout-out to you, Ayahuwaka, Uganda.
Shout-out, Yellowbird.
Shout-out, Zendegen.
Shout-out, Bregion.
Shout-out, AIXBTree.tgen.
Shout-out, X.
Shout-out, Hyderpad. Shout-out, Kree.tgen. Shout out X. Shout out Hydropad.
Shout out Keon.tgen.
How many .tgen accounts are there?
Oh, my gosh.
Shout out to you, Jimmy.tgen.
Grow to bed, good sir.
Get some quality sleep.
We'll see on the flip side.
Shout out to you, Public Nouns.
Shout out to you, KF Media.
And to our speaker stage, shout out to Memes for Trees, Stella Akumbak and Sisei Sakura 007.
Aw, that was nice of you. Thank you.
Thank you, thank you.
You're welcome.
Shout out to everyone.
So yeah, let's share some use cases, Stella.
Yeah, sure.
Maybe we'll start with an introduction first.
Hi, my name is Stella.
I'm lead steward over at Unlock Protocol DAO.
We are part of the DApps and Apps Gitcoin GG23 funding round. So super excited to be also part of the Let's Grow Live. And yeah Hey, hey, how's everybody?
And yeah, yeah, happy to share some lights and some info around Unlock.
I think there are so many use cases for especially region communities that are looking to start using tools that can bring up their impact on chain.
And yeah, Unlock can be one of those tools. I see memes for trees with his hands up. Is that correct?
Not supposed to be. I'll try to put it down.
No, it's okay.
Yeah, it happens to everyone.
The reality
of X spaces,
like a feature that was
no further developed.
Yeah.
Exactly, exactly.
But at least it's still here, right? So that's
maybe the good news.
Yeah, so maybe a quick intro
to Unlock Protocol first, before
we jump into the use cases.
Unlock Protocol is
a peer-governed
decentralized protocol that
allows non-coders to
deploy their own smart contracts for, let's say, for very specific use cases.
So memberships is one of say, common use cases,
it's not limited to that because what you're actually deploying
is an ERC-721 smart contract, that in a nutshell.
And it's open source, so you can fork the entire protocol
if you find it useful enough.
And, yeah, Cece, you're the same as us.
You have your hands in a lot of pots, in a lot of honey pots.
And you have been using the protocol before, right?
Before you even became a steward.
So you want to share some of your favorite use cases?
Oh, yes, yes. I started using Unlock because I am part of the core team at Ethereum Bolivia,
and we regularly organize meetups and events and build-a-thons and all kinds of things.
and all kind of things and we needed something first we wanted something to
replace poops as we started using poops and yeah it was good but unfortunately
we sometimes things operationally doesn't go with the time with POAP.
So then when we wanted to have that proof of attendance ready,
we had to wait for their approval.
And then maybe on the approval, we couldn't get the QR code.
We had to choose another method and things like that.
So then I started to hear about Unlock and the ticketing and certifications.
And I got curious and started to dig in.
So then I started to, I made a test with a ticket for one of our meetups.
And I was really impressed because it sold everything that I needed.
I just wanted to control everything from my events.
I wanted to edit, for example, the description of my NFT and just I took, I got stuck on Unlocked
like forever, because I really loved it.
And yeah, I started using because of that, but there are so many use cases. We also used FIM for certifications. As we have organized the second version of our build-a-thon last year,
we deployed our ticketing, our tickets, but also our certifications.
So all the people that attended our event, that could be just only conferences,
but also there could be people that were active hackers.
So then I had to have like two different certifications.
So I just created those instantly on Unlock,
and I could add drop those to the emails from the people that got registered.
And that was so useful and so easy because many of the people that came into the Buildathon
were completely newbies into Web3.
I mean, like very new.
They didn't have even a wallet. They just got installed their
wallet because of the Buildathon, during the Buildathon, and with the help of their peers
at their teams. So they were completely new. They even didn't know how to use their wallet, how to pay gas fees, for example.
So just by air dropping those certifications into their emails, they felt like really welcomed into the space just because being new.
And that was really nice.
Very cute for them.
Okay, you took away every suitcase I had lined up.
But I'm happy you did.
Sorry.
Just use the protocol for everything because that's kind of the cool part of it.
So, yeah, totally agree.
I stumbled into the Unlock community kind of for the same reasons.
I had been looking for something to solve my problems as founder of the Alana project, which was I wanted to bring our magazine on chain.
And that apparently wasn't so easy to do entirely under your own control as a non-coder.
And yeah, so I came across Unlock Protocol.
We first thought we were going to do recurring subscriptions, which we then decided not to do.
But nonetheless, we launched it through Unlocked Protocol.
It's just very convenient as an easily accessible user interface.
It's multi-chain, so you can pick the chain, pick your poison.
Yeah, and then you're not really limited, And you even can edit on smart contract level.
Hi, Eason Crypto.
Nice to see you over here again.
And yeah, so this is kind of like what brought me actually into Unlock Protocol.
The search for something that I needed problem solving tool.
Yeah, come on up, Ethan.
Wait, how can we do?
So super exciting.
I went over to Unlock
and I signed in,
made myself an account.
I started creating the Unlock
for the Impact concert.
I just, I've been running around like crazy.
I haven't had time to sit down with my AI and craft up some imagery.
But we might get some assistance because there's amazing people in this community
that are pros at everything from writing copy to creating images to coding up stuff.
So yeah, it's super exciting.
I'm going to be, I'm sure, using it for um you know my monday show
easy's corner that i host i'm actually so i came out of a i came out of this space which i was in
till about 5 a.m slept for a few hours um got up i went over into what was it uh oh the loans
space so uh i i co-hosthost on Fridays, the student loans token,
which is like a meme token with a purpose. And then I jumped into the artisan live showcase,
where they featured me talking about impact concerts for about 45 minutes. That was great.
I do have a little artisan fund impact concert set up. I talked about, of course, the impact concert that we're doing
on Sunday, Sunday, Sunday at 3 p.m. Eastern running for many hours. They locked me in.
They talked me into it. I've got a date. So we're doing an artisan impact concert on
April, May 2nd, which is going to be at the beginning of kind of their round.
And then I've just been testing a new frame for Far House, which is like the Twitter spaces of Warpcast.
Actually, part of my flows.wtf grant, shout out flows and nouns, was to start a new show besides my Monday show. So this is our 14th episode of Far House Friday. And finally, it's in frame. So people don't have to have a separate app,
really easy to find. And so in about, let's see, in about 49 minutes, I'll be kicking that off.
And it's exciting to be testing the new tech. I've been in talks with the devs there,
and then also with some of their kind of competition
with the FC Audio Chat that dropped last Friday.
We actually jumped into theirs to give it a little go.
And then, you know, the Farhouse peeps are like,
hey, we're going to be dropping one soon.
I was like, can you do it by next Friday?
And they're like, yeah, we're going to give it a go.
So it's really fun.
It's cool to see all this super fast growth.
But yeah, I love what you're doing with Unlock.
After I heard about it, I right away went over and started checking it out.
It's just, as you probably heard, I've been a little busy bee.
Easy.
Before we flip it back to the Unlock team, peep the garden.
Peep the Garden. Peep the Garden. There's a post planted in the garden for the Impact Concert from Let's Grow Down account.
And also, mission accomplished. I went in V's.
Violetta Zeroni, for you guys don't know, she is one of the top Web3 musicians.
She's been growing on for almost
three years now actually next week will be the three-year anniversary of the moonshot launch
and mint date um and so i invited all of them i told them to get in with you uh easy as the
booking agent for the concert and let them know about the free parking. They don't need a parking pass. They just need to
show up. And so we'll see. And I also promoted it in her private Zoom concert as well. So
there we go. Will T is the man. He's flexing like Mr. T over here. That is amazing. Thank you.
I dropped, maybe it was yesterday, I shot Violetta a DM. We do have DMs running, but it had been a long time since we were talking.
She's too busy to check her DMs.
She'll publicly admit that.
Totally.
And I get it.
I 100% understand.
Yeah, but she let me pin it.
But I do hold.
She let me pin it up in the top of the space, and there was about 45 people in there at
the time of the posting and the announcement.
Epic.
I hold like half a dozen moonshots from the, from those, those launch days.
And yeah, I've attended a lot of her shows.
She's awesome, super talented.
So thank you for doing that.
If we don't get her herself, maybe we'll get some of the crew.
Yeah.
Anybody.
Yeah.
Maybe we'll get Chris.
Yeah.
Or someone else come through.
Yes.
That'd be amazing.
All right.
Anybody that's here and listening, if you have a project in the round, in this current
GetCoin23 round, and you want to speak and promote your project at the Impact Concerts,
we've had a great track record of getting people at least a few extra donations.
And it's a lot of fun because in between each speaker, we have live
music from all over the world. If you're a musician and you want to play like a five or six
minute set in between our speaker talks, also feel free to reach out to me. My DMs are open.
People are starting to flood them. And I was so busy today, I've barely been able to respond.
But after I wrap up the Far House Friday show, I will then be done for the week, except for hanging out in here, of course.
But I'll be able to start replying to people.
I do have a schedule that started, and I am locking people into slots.
And we got, I'm blanking on his name, the security expert.
He locked in.
He was here just the other day.
It is, let me see if I can go to my notes real quick and tell you exactly.
It is.
He's going to be right at the start.
Oh, Steve. Yeah. Okay, cool. Steve. Yeah. Oh, he's going to be we're going we'll fly into the speakers, and then we will grow till the end. And maybe sliding in another
security expert or crypto sleuth could be awesome to kind of cap it off too. I always remind people
kind of partway through because people come in for a few hours and then take off and new people
come in and the old people come back. So it's a grow with the flow type of vibe.
Cool.
All right.
Well, let's flip it back to the Unlocked team.
And you guys got 105 minutes if you need it.
I don't think as much as I love the protocol,
I can talk about it for 105 minutes.
I doubt that.
I can talk about it for 105 minutes. I doubt that. I can't wait for 105 minutes. I might put people to sleep.
Hi, Angela. Welcome. This time we're doing this very right. Can you please introduce yourself?
Thank you. Hello, hello, everyone. I am Angela Steffens, aka Wonder Woman Code, in all the places to find me on the web.
And I was the developer relations engineer for Unlock Protocol for quite some time,
working on the core team.
And now I work in the DAO, helping with decentralization with the lovely Stella,
who is our lead steward.
So great to see you all here today.
How's it going, everyone?
It's growing very good.
I love to hear it.
I love to hear it.
You failed.
I love this.
Don't tell the police.
They're not around, right?
Like, let's not tell them.
Hey, Angela, it's good to see you.
They are eating snacks.
Yes. Where's my snacks I want some snacks I actually already had my snack for tonight I might consider I've got
some caramelized onion hummus and some pita chips if anybody wants some.
That sounds amazing.
Yeah.
I love it.
I actually, I had a sandwich right before this.
But I'm not sure how much you got to say already about Unlock.
I actually knew Julian Genesau years before he launched Unlock Protocol.
And I can't say enough good things about him.
I met him in an open web meetup about XMPP when we were both working on some interesting implementations of that chat protocol.
And he was talking about federated identity and all these really great ideas
about how to decentralize things even way back then.
And it's been such a pleasure,
like working with this group,
especially that we have right now in the DAO
on all these different initiatives
because they're really users of the protocol.
And I think that's such a key part of ensuring that the DAO and the protocol itself stay so much in line with where things need to go.
You'll find some really down-to-earth people working on different initiatives.
on different initiatives and that alignment, that really key alignment between this core
group of us that have been working the DAO, really led by Stella, has been just so amazing
to see, you know, and to see actually some adoption in some more visible ways, because
you guys probably don't know that you use things every day that are run by
unlock because it can run so seamlessly in the background and a lot of platforms use the unlock
contracts and people are not even aware of it um because it's all underneath the hood and so um
people are starting to talk about it more and use it more visibly for DAOs and things like that. So it's kind of nice to see it getting the recognition it deserves.
Unlock was like one of the first contracts up on Third Web as a third-party contract.
A lot of people don't realize that history, too.
There's such a rich history of the protocol itself because it's been around for so long, since 2018.
That's a really long time in the cryptosphere.
So, yeah, if anybody has any questions, too, today would be a great day to ask away on those things.
And, you know, as DevRel, I'm happy to, like, jump into some more technical stuff if anybody has, you know, any trouble that they've had or questions about
you know the flexibility of it or how it can be used but otherwise you know i'm happy to like get
into some more specifics about some of the really neat implementations i've seen and stuff too i
know stella's seen all kinds of stuff too yeah actually this is the topic today. The topic today is use cases. So you're actually spot on. I think, so the craziest thing I have used Unlocked for is actually bringing some of my 3D models on chain.
um that's like kind of the the more crazier ones uh for that use case i made a far caster arch in
3d just for showcasing and um yeah essentially you could get the nft for free and with that nft
you would get access to download the model uh but i sadly have to say I'm currently looking for a new
solution that is on our weave can store assets for up to 200 years so if anyone
has good ideas around this topic because I've been trained with our AR drive and
the community it was amazing but for some reasons stuff just wouldn't work
out for for me.
So if anyone has any other recommendations on our wave, super happy.
Please DM.
Otherwise, Angela, what's one of the craziest use cases you've seen around for people to go to unlock and do them with?
Well, gosh, I mean, well, I guess at first I'll talk a little bit about the craziest
things that I've seen done with Unlock. A lot of people don't realize we have these things called
hooks. It's an opportunity for you to customize your smart contract. And the way that unlock works the contract when it is created is yours
you're the owner of the contract it's not um anything weird like minting through somebody
else's contract or anything strange like that um it's actually a factory that creates and spits out
your own smart contract that you can do anything you want with. First of all, there's that.
Second, we have these easy places for you to add some customization to the code. And people have used those to do some of the craziest implementations that have been just super amazing,
like NFT images that change. For instance, there was one project that had, you know, different characters. And when
you purchased the separate weaponry, the character would change, which was super amazing. So the
character would like hold the weapon then. And that was really cool. One of the other devs in the DAO actually was experimenting with an EIP called 5050,
which is like interactions on NFTs and extended the unlock NFTs that way
and created this little game where the characters slap each other and they change.
So they were like the silliest little thing.
But it was a really cool exercise in showing like the power of what you could do with them,
making them interactive entirely.
There have been some other interactive things that have been done with NFTs
that had to do with what is in a person's wallet.
So changing in some way in regards to the amount of certain tokens a person has in a wallet,
the discount people get based on certain items in their wallet, or even just like the house biffy the imagery looks or the potential for you know actually
doing some other actions that people were that were kind of secretive until they were unlocked
by being minted so that's the other thing about the protocol people don't realize is that's like
mint on demand so you don't have to have all the gas to pay for mints up front.
If you've got like a collection that you're doing, that's very large.
And the benefit of that also is you can upgrade or update these contracts too.
um these contracts too so um a when the protocol gets updates uh patches and the biggest thing
on that is security of course um been audited four times by the way um but also you can change
your contracts so if something changes about the price you want to charge if something changes about
um you know any any different part of it,
you can update your contracts, it doesn't have to stay the same. So think about that a little bit.
And, you know, I love to see people getting all these other use cases that aren't just like the
straight 10,000, you know, PFP type of NFTs out into the real world
because there's so many uses for NFTs.
It's more like a file format than it is really, you know,
something to hold a digital image.
So I think people really need to start thinking about it that way
and doing more kinds of fun things with it.
Yeah, I was about to say it's really about access control, right?
So Sissy, when she told about her use cases,
it was about, you know, solving problems in a way
and being able as, you know, an event organizer
or as a creator to freely edit,
permissionlessly edit stuff.
So that's something you can do in unlock but then
also from the other side you have a lot of tools to just make your life easier right so if you're
a creator uh usually you have so uh just one example right i used to uh be very active on
art station i was like oh this is a you know, if people are looking for creators,
this is like the place where I would go and look, right?
And that is true.
But then, you know, ArtStation agreed
to getting their website scraped, right,
for AI training.
And I was like, well, what's that?
Like, why would you agree to that
without even, like like trying to ask the
artists right who publish on your website and so totally gating per se and
this is what you can use the NFTs minted up on these smart contracts for like you
can token gate a telegram you can token gate a website you can token gate yeah
anything that is digital right it doesn't have to be like directly a product or an event. It can be anything on the Internet. So if you're, for example, what I set up recently, sadly, I just learned that this company is sunsetting, but so be it. I anyway tried it.
But so be it. I anyway tried it. It's essentially a website builder that allowed for token gating.
And so I used Unlock Membership NFTs to create two subscription tiers, kind of like a Patreon, right? Not so different.
And yeah, I essentially token gated my own website integrated integrated patreon which I thought was really cool right
so like this kind of access control is really really important in the age we're living in and
creators are more vulnerable today than ever before so I think it's more it's like essentially
it's self-empowerment if you want to say it like this all right access control's self-empowerment, if you want to say it like this. All right. Access control and self-empowerment.
So, yeah.
Also for EZ who runs, you know, like essentially a lot of projects around music.
I think this is going to be a very powerful addition to your toolbox in the end.
Y'all keep blowing my mind.
Like, oh my lordy lordy lord.
I have some people recently, real world, IRL, meat sack style friends that haven't got into crypto yet.
And one of my musician friends who does a lot of setting up other people's systems, as well as he's a producer. He plays in bands. He's been
doing it his whole life, basically. I met him at the post office the other day when I was taking a
walk. And we were catching up, and I was telling him about the Impact concerts and stuff. And I've
always tried to kind of wiggle him towards Web3 and crypto. He hasn't really taken the dive yet.
But I was telling him a little about Warpcast and flows and some of the grant
opportunities in the space. And he was interested, but he kept going back to like, you know, the,
oh God, I just had a brain fart. When you were just saying that can be a replacement for the
fundraising site, Patreon, Patreon. So he was saying, well, yeah, well, I think I'm, you know,
I'm setting up a Patreon. And if this is like the replacement on blockchain for patreon just that alone is like
giant when you add in everything else like i'm i'm sorry because i have been somewhat multitasking
um but it sounded like also it can be used as kind of like a reputation score to like look at
wallets and like that is something that i've been wanting for years there's been a few products that are close but like to be able to show oh yeah
I started collecting NFT you know music NFTs in 2019 I have like a music score or an art score
or not necessarily a score but like a reputation that people can see oh this is not someone that
you know because there's so many
times you you get a dm from someone or whatever and it turns out they're they're kind of like
just trying to sell you something or whatever uh so to be able to take a look real quick at the
unlock and be like oh wow they've got like these different areas they've been working in for a
while would be hugely helpful honestly i think think Angela should get on a call.
I think she can bring you up to speed on this
because what I heard from the interview
during the Artisan Showcase,
I think this will be so huge for your own community
to just get the protocol forked
and embedded into your project.
And it's open source, it's free.
So there's really no reason not to do
it and you give all your creators the independence to mint their own music nfts and have them
publish to their page a page on your you know on your initiative so i think yeah angela if if you
guys can find a time i think you should definitely get on that call. Yeah, 100%. I'm totally down to help with that.
And know that other people have done some things like that with them already.
It's not just that, you know, I know that it's possible,
but it's also that other people have implemented them that way.
And I think that there's still so much more unexplored there in that realm, too, that you could do that would
just be really amazing. So there's the ability to add metadata where you could actually see some of
those scores really easily, or you can add some of your own functions to get some numbers that show
up on sites and stuff and lots of different ways that you could do it just really depends on your use case. But really the protocol was built to be super flexible. So, you know,
like most of the time, um, people will come to me and say, I, I really want to use unlock,
but I don't think it can do this thing that I want to do. So I, I'm just going to hire a smart
contract, um, you know, engineer and write, write this thing from scratch. And I, and every time I've
been able to say, no, don't, you know, don't do that. Let's tell me exactly what you're trying
to do. And I've been able to guide them to the thing that they wanted. There isn't an interface
for everything, of course, because the flexibility is so great that it's impossible to build an
interface for everything.
And sometimes you might need a smart contract writer for that.
But, you know, gosh knows with the AI tools that are available,
even writing some of the simpler hooks using AI is completely possible these days.
Go ahead, Izzy.
Incredible, yeah.
I wish Jose, my partner in crime, the Venezuelan Connection, was here. He's my co-founder and co-host of the Impact Concerts.
And he does a lot of work with this indigenous tribe down there, the Watuja community.
And we've been trying to kind of figure out how do we, because there's different things like they make these sillas, these little chairs.
how do we, because there's different things like they make these sillas, these little chairs,
they're very beautiful. And one of the artisans is making miniatures. And then Jose thought maybe
we could like mint these and like shipping might be tough, but he's actually hopefully coming to
the States in a few months. So he could drop off a bunch here. And when I'm here, I could ship out
or something because I go back and forth between California and Costa Rica. But yeah, it sounds like this could be the solution for so many things for the music
that's coming out of the tribe, for some of their artworks and craft works.
So yeah, I would love to set up a call when he could be there too.
It's just, yeah, my mind is kind of exploding with ideas.
I love it thank you
yeah
just a moment
Will could you please bring up
Run Meat P
he's part of the
HALO team so we
can have him on stage
please
yes could you please bring Ramit P. up on the stage?
Ramit P. Si.
Ramit P. Thank you, thank you.
Ramit P. No problemo.
Ramit P. Es bueno.
Ramit P. Okay, gracias. Very good. Is it bueno? It's bueno.
Okay, gracias.
Huddle One and also build an app called Firehouse for Webcast users.
So yeah, just looking around.
And yeah, we Huddle One just, Huddle One is a deep end for real-time connectivity.
I think UnlockDAO already uses our platform for their DAO calls.
And yeah, like our testnet is live and soon something brewing with Unlock Protocol.
So just want to hop in and yeah, feel free to check out once we go live with Unlock Protocol.
Yeah.
Oh, hi, Ramit. It's so good to see you here.
Yeah, thanks for joining.
It's pretty early for you still isn't it
yeah it's 4 a.m right now yeah oh my god thank you for joining this is amazing yeah um yeah we're
pretty excited about what where you've been cooking i know we're not supposed to share anything so i'm
gonna shut up uh but yeah super exciting to to see Huddle cooking some new stuff.
And we at ProtocolDAO have been using Huddle for,
yeah, actually since the first DAO call
that ever happened,
I want to say December 2023,
I think consistently.
So we're huge fans.
And yeah, just looking forward more more tools built like this
right because obviously unlock is not the only one out there building open source and and peer
governed tools so yeah great to you know the commitment just the commitment from it awesome
yeah yeah like i i have another space with as in so on webcast we are trying uh
frames v2 so yeah just this is the first test that we will be having for his call so yeah also a
plugin like if you do your meetings over huddle one there is a like we can set up a sub domain
for your community you can export your csv and just, you know, format that CSV in a particular way.
And then you will be able to drop unlock keys in just a click from unlock protocol dashboard.
So like that's already possible.
Like less few people know about it.
I think there is a blog also published, but I just wanted to put it around.
Yeah.
Wow. Huge shout that's huge.
Huge shout out.
Yes, go ahead.
Sorry, I just got to say,
the Farhouse team and Ramti here
have been so responsive,
so engaging with the Farhouse
and I'm so excited to get deeper into Huddle.
Some of my co-host felons
has been a little more tapped in with Huddle
over the long term.
I've sort of popped in and out, but I'm going to be locking in and loaded.
I'm ready to grow with Huddle and Farhouse.
And unlock.
Oh, and definitely unlock.
Oh, yeah.
It goes without saying now.
I'm like an unlock devotee already.
You know, Stella, let it easy know how you can join the community and become a community contributor and get rewarded.
Oh, yeah, I should do that. I know he's really busy right now, so I didn't want to completely overwhelm him.
busy right now so i didn't want to completely overwhelm him uh but yeah once you like your
schedule lightens up slightly you might want to consider coming to our one of our weekly dow
calls just like you know checking out the crowd i know for ramid it's usually a little bit too much
at night so that's why he joins like whenever i think he is alive at night, but otherwise
More or less not and it happens every Tuesday
Currently is at 2 p.m. my time. So this means
I think at 3 p.m. ESD. Is that correct? And
Yeah, so it's a good cause obviously on hello. You can join the unlock discord from the website
That would be my recommendation.
And from there, go through a little bit of an onboarding.
Of course, we are token gating the Unlock Discord with an Unlock NFT.
Of course, it's our, I would say, our little behavioral manual that you're minting, essentially,
which I think is not discussed enough. So one big use case that I have brought in many times,
also in different communities, is the idea of getting aligned on a culture, right?
Anlock Dao had to kind of go through this process in the last year
to like refining our culture.
And, you know, Captain Southpaw, one of our crazy cool contributors,
he ran a vision and mission workshop with the DaO, kind of getting us all on one page, which was, I think, fundamentally, crucially helpful, actually.
And out of that came, yeah, our guidelines in a way.
It's just six short points that make up for how do we behave?
What do we stand for?
Right.
And, yeah, in my own community,
we have something called the Alana Manifesto,
which is also an Unlock NFT.
And it is about the 10 principles
of a good community overall.
So it's a slightly different version.
It was there before
and it inspired the Unlock guidelines as well.
Yes.
Easy. What up? before and inspired the unlock guidelines as well yes uh easy i what up i am just falling head over heels for for y'all um this sounds amazing i love the idea of you know minting and unlock that you
sort of like vouch to the vows of um you know the principles of of you know what's in that document
i haven't read it yet but i can i can pretty much attest that it's going to be a great values and, um, yeah, shoot me, shoot me some links.
Um, I would love to join. In fact, Tuesday is like my only day that is not like super crowded.
So it'll be like a nice, like, it'll be like my Tuesday thing. So I'm super stoked. Yeah.
And that's completely the opposite for me. I'm super crowded on Tuesdays with meetings.
I got Monday, Thursday, Friday, Tuesday and Wednesdays are a little lighter. But yeah, that's besides the point.
Angela, over to you. And before we go to you, I just want to say, Rob, I'm a super big fan of Huddle.
Zero One, this is Will T with KF Media.
We use it for our LATAM leadership group meetings, along with Unlock, so that they can attest that they attended the meeting, for sure.
But also, you have a big fan that you may not be aware of.
And so I've invited him to the space so if you
see wasabi show up in this space i'll let you know yeah thanks thanks man thanks man yeah like
good to know like you new people who are fan of huddle one and love to use the product
and also at the like at also at the time of speaking,
we are also trying to have Huddle 1 as a go-to platform for Arbitrum DAO.
The proposal is already live.
I will just share the link with maybe Stella and feel free to drop your thoughts on the same
and your feedback.
That will be really helpful.
Well, yeah, I was about to tell you, you should also, if there is still time, maybe drop it
again on Monday in the general English DAO chat on Discord.
I think that gives you a little bit more exposure than where you dropped it before.
It's fine to drop it in the general chat.
Got it.
Got it.
Sure.
Sure.
Okay.
Sure. No problem. drop it in the general chat got it got it sure sure okay sure no problem i mean you know the the thing about all of these things be it huddle be it uh unlock be it uh file verse right um all
of these things are so cool because we can we can use kind of like a very specific application to
fulfill one specific need i also recently changed from Calendly to Meet With.
I think, you know, it's really time we walk the walk, right? As convenient as sometimes
these Web 2 applications feel to us, like we need to use Web 3 because if we want adoption,
we are the ones to push for it so the more often we tell people
here is the google meet link right like what you know in huddle you can connect also without your
wallet right so have people come on a huddle call my goodness it's not that hard right and the same for like all of these event uh people who are
using luma stop using luma if your web 3 start using unlock right uh build your own patreon be
in charge of what you make and what you communicate i cannot say this often enough this is you know
because we haven't had this in the past, because we have it now,
and because this is the future of the internet, like, my goodness, let's just start using this
stuff. If we're not using it, why should Web2 people start using it, right? So...
I mean, we have been one time Web2 users, all of us.
So how come we became a Web3 user?
Because we got stuck into the technology.
We started to use applications and started to use our wallets.
So then I think it's also a way to show people the path
on how to be self-sovereign, how to be
auto-custodial, how to also be really reflective
on what data you are sharing with these platforms on Web2 platforms especially.
So then this is something that I think is really good for us to just start walking the walk, but also bringing more people into Web3 by using our Web3 tools
and onboarding more people into Web3 with a non-financial investment or any kind of,
investment or any kind of, I don't know, money to give in return of something, you know?
So I think this is just the best way to start onboarding the 1 billion users that we should be having on Ethereum, for example.
be having on Ethereum, for example. And well, I know how it's not only on Ethereum, but I know that
we can start onboarding more people by just onboarding ourselves and then sharing these
with more people, you know? So Rami, maybe could you share a little bit more on how is your testnet launch what's that about
and maybe something that is coming for you yeah sure sure so like as I talk like hurdle one is a deep end right and we solve for real-time connectivity
so we had our dp network live like in the testnet phase in the early gen where you know there have
been 500 operators and they contributed 200k bandwidth and now those calls on hurdle one will
be slowly transitioning to the completely decentralized
deep in network, which will power them.
And for again, as there are rewards for node operators and in general, we have our own
L3 base out of Arbitrum Orbit.
So we just went live with that testnet.
And so, yeah, we have already achieved like, I guess, 100K transaction in a day on RL3.
People onboarding, like, we have built a cool testnet platform where people can just, you know, look around, do some quests, claim their points if they have been a hurdle over and meet users.
And there are upcoming quests coming with some partner like Unlock.
upcoming quests coming with some partner like Unlock and we have like another NFT communities
with which we partner and other different partners we will have quests and yeah. So that's
a complete experience we're trying to build around our testnet.
I love seeing Huddle grow like this. This is so amazing. I've been watching your guys's
journey for so long now. And like Stella said, we've been using Huddle One at UnlockDAO for a really long time.
And I just kudos to you guys. And correct me if I'm wrong, Ramit, aren't you guys 100% decentralized?
You run on Livepeer, is that right?
No, so Livepeer and we are a different thing. Like Livepeer does that work for live streaming.
We do that for real-time audio calls,
like more like a meeting session, right?
So those are two different things.
In live stream, there is a one-to-many communication
and in our meeting room,
there is many-to-many communication,
just like in this audio space.
So like those are two different things.
So Livepeer have their own network and Huddle1 has their own network, just like in this audio space. So like those are two different things.
So Livepier have their own network and Huddle1 has their own network,
DP network, which is powering the calls now.
And just so everybody else knows too,
like some of the other features in Huddle
because you guys do more than just,
you know, straight audio.
Yeah, yeah. Like it's like a full video platform. features in huddle because you guys do more than just you know um straight audio yeah yeah like
there it's like a full video platform yeah like it's a complete uh platform like for your community
like you can own a sub domain you can customize it according to your community theme or something
have custom backgrounds also you have got a chance to multi-stream on X, YouTube, LinkedIn, and any another custom
live streaming platform.
Also, the other part is like there are whenever someone attends, like we have like analytics
where we see like these are the people who attended your call.
So that's again easy to just incentivize them with any NFT drop, like using a lock protocol
or doing any drop to them,
something like that.
So yeah.
I love it.
So speaking of different use cases for unlock too,
since that's what we're talking about today,
I wanted to touch base a little bit
on some of those physical space type use cases
because we have had a few that have been used already. And I think there's
way more of these cases that haven't actually been utilized. One of those is in San Francisco,
there's a co-working space called the House of Web 3. They use Unlock Protocol for their
memberships there. And also, you know, not enough people have done this yet, but it's
completely, you know, a use case, which I think is really underutilized. And that is NFC's hook to
unlock protocol for badges and things like that for gated entry. So any physical device effectively
in the real world, you could figure out how to connect it with unlock protocol. You could use
RFID or some of those other types of devices and actually extend the digital to the physical. And we've seen people
use them tied to, you know, packaging and ensuring that certain products are unique. And because
there's an expiration that happens, it allows people to actually
ensure that packaging isn't duplicated. And this is sort of a unique use case that solves
a real world problem that exists today in some of the different tools that people use
for ensuring uniqueness and packaging. And so there's a lot of these
real world use cases for NFTs that I don't think enough people have really explored. And for events,
it just makes so much sense because having to worry about a double spend
on anything. And so think about some of those physical spaces to inside of events that have
VIP, for instance, and if you have different ticket levels, being able to gate off different areas inside your events, only entry for people with different ticket levels, things like that.
There's so many more use cases I can think of that people haven't explored yet that I'm really just itching to see come alive in the real world.
Most definitely.
I'm sorry to jump the line.
I do have a show in like eight minutes um
i have so talk about nfcs i have clothing with nfcs in it i have sculptures with nfcs in it that
then verify that i am the nft holder and the sculpture holder um i know friends that have
you know put nfcs in their like painting frames.
There are so many use cases.
I wanted to say, I brought this up the other day, a few years back, POAP dropped a little like credit card sized NFC chip where you could just do your, you know, slap that against
someone's phone and they collect your POAP.
So it'd be really cool to see one from Unlock.
I've got other like apps that maybe have a little NFC card that you can like verify
your location for like certain like, you know, earning steps walking or you know, there's just
so many different use cases. It's crazy. And I'm really excited to just like get diving more into
this to get over into the DAO calls and all this. So thank you for doing like this broad, broad, epic use cases for what
you're building. I mean, it sounds like everything from like hats to Luma to like maybe even
Charmverse, like if everything's on kind of through one platform, it makes it so much easier
than having 10 different apps that you're going into to try and organize.
That does not make sense.
And yeah, getting off of the Google stuff is like, please and thank you.
I couldn't, you know, say it better.
It's just please and thank you.
Like, let's get off the miracle round. And speaking of which, there are some devs working on an Unlock agent right now.
I am so excited for that to happen, for Unlock to have their own agent that you can just chat with and have your smart contract spit out at you.
And the really exciting thing about that for me right now is seeing the adoption of mcp across all these different
platforms because what that means uh for the non-devs in the room um anthropic built mcp
is a protocol uh for connecting uh ai agents and um with literally thousands at this point platforms that are adopting MCP because also OpenAI said that
they're going to adopt MCP and DeepSeek, like all of the major AI models. This means all the big
platforms are adopting MCP. And if we adopt it too, that means unlock will integrate with all of those things.
Can you flip and imagine how great that could be? That's the future. And we're almost there
literally months away. I can't imagine how great will it be. Help me to imagine it.
Just a second. Well, Will,
can you imagine token gating anything that you use today practically?
We are in the future.
Absolutely.
Yeah, Ramit, I saw your hand up a little while ago.
Please go ahead.
Yeah, like just wanted to share an experience where we did like physical uh
ticketing like not a paid ticket like it was more of a phil banglore thing that we organized in 2023
we use the integration of unlock x xmptp so where you know in a way like when a person get uh you
know tagged as a event like accepted for the event they there is
a callback which send them a message of xmptp and then you can customize the nft which they receive
uh having a qr specific to them and when they arrive at the event they just show their xmptp
inbox you just scan it mark it as checked in and yeah that works fine and we like did like check in of around
2000 plus people and keys were deployed over our bitterm so yeah that was like a good experience
like complete web to complete web 3 experience from registration to onboarding so yeah just
wanted to share like things work well also things works well if we can just you know
build such kinds of kind of experience and yeah
awesome thank you for sharing that i see some hands up maybe stella
yes thank you sissy uh actually i have a very boring but very normal use case i i i want to
share with you guys i know angela and Cece already know about this one,
but it kind of tells also the story of, yeah,
onboarding and picking up people sometimes where they're at, right?
Because as Cece said, we were once web two, right?
And we know it's been quite a wild ride and journey.
So, of course, for other people who might not be as passionate, idealistic, and convinced as us,
this might be a harder journey.
And so around a year ago or so, my husband decided to throw himself a giant birthday party, okay?
So I was like, great, we're gonna do Unlock, obviously, right?
Obviously.
And he was like, oh no, that's complicated.
No, no, no, no, no, this is very complicated.
I don't think this is a good idea, right?
And so at first I was like, okay, maybe, you know,
it's just like he's not web three yet right so
maybe i should just let it go but instead i decided to push forward and i said you know what
i'm not giving you a choice you want to throw a giant birthday party in our house you gotta use
unlock for this right and i said you will see it's not people are not gonna have as much problem as
you're thinking right now and he's like are you sure i don't know i said what's your alternative
starting to make a manual axle sheet is that what do you want to do oh no please not and so yeah i
essentially made the event for him i I showed him how it works.
And you know what?
Out of 56 people, 30, no, actually more, 42 did this without any problems app, you know,
WhatsApp help, helpline or whatever.
Right.
And the other ones just were too lazy to do it.
So it was not that they went on the page and they were like, this is too difficult.
Because you literally just have to sign up with your email.
That was it.
And you get added to a CSV sheet that we can then comfortably download from the dashboard of Unlocked. word of unlock. So everything that he imagined to be difficult was actually not difficult for his
varied, I want to say, guests or his variety of guests at all. And I think this is really important.
So yes, picking people up where they are super important, but sometimes also maybe being a bit
more pushy about things, especially when it comes to, you know, people that we know well,
right? Because everyone should be in Web3, right? Not just like a selected few or this is not an
exclusive space. This is the freaking future. So everyone should be in here. It's just sad it
hasn't happened yet. But I think like even using this for your spouse's
birthday party or your kid's birthday party, if it's a little bit of a bigger event, why the hell
not? Right. Try it. Give it a go. I mean, yeah. OK, I'm done preaching and convincing for today,
I think. I don't know why I haven't thought about using it for kids' birthday parties.
I don't know why I haven't thought about using it for kids' birthday parties.
I'm definitely doing that next time.
Can you imagine?
Like, the kids themselves, for one thing, would love the, you know, digital token.
I can imagine that part of it just being, like, totally gleeful on their part.
Like, yeah, I don't know why I haven't thought of it.
I should have.
And make it, maybe you use them, you know,
maybe you make it so that all of them get like a different one.
So let's just say the theme is clown, right?
You could generate a bunch of like different clown images with comfy UI
and then just use the collection feature with unlock.
And so that everyone who mints a new one gets like a different visual,
but kind of in the same theme, I think kids would totally love this.
Like there's just no way they wouldn't love this.
They're all on animes now.
There's no clones.
Yeah, sorry.
Me too.
But it feels so retro.
Like are they on anime?
It just feels for me like 2001.
I just actually wrote a
post about it on
Bargaster
Yeah but why not making it
as a GIF? I know
that with these
last events that we
just had
just making it a GIF
any kind of image that you have just i think that makes it
like a long run for the park so much more interesting for parties i mean yeah like
scaling up your party big big time by like using nfts and having something like
rememberable and in people's walls forever and by the way those emails those the email signups they
create um a self-custody wallet for the person that is there it emails them instructions on how to, you know, claim their wallet for themselves and start using it. So it is both
empowering at the same time that it is making it easier for them to just continue on with what
they're used to. And also like educating and empowering them to be self-sovereign at the
same time. I love that part of it
that's awesome that's awesome and uh maybe angela you could explain like okay if we make an uh certification and uh this certification is like on uh what's this uh A Soulbound token. So if this is attached to a wallet and the people that
were receiving it just receive it on an email, what happens then with that soulbound token?
Okay.
To an email.
So first of all, let me just say this.
Please don't do soulbound tokens.
We have other mechanisms for making these tokens not transferable by the person that you're issuing
them to for things like certifications where you don't want them to be passed around.
But soulbound tokens themselves are irremovable from a person's wallet. And that is, in my
opinion, not a fair thing to do to the person who has that wallet, because
it means they can never clear out something that they no longer want in their wallet.
So let me just say that.
And I will post back some information in the comments about our different contract management
tools that we have, their roles called Block Manager and Key Granter and
things like that, where you can actually set up some different permissions on your contracts
and do interesting things like certifications, where a certifying authority can be the one who
can be the one who transfers it or clears it out of a person's wallet, but not the individual it's
transfers it or clears it out of a person's wallet, but not the individual it's issued to.
issued to. Or for instance, if you want to lend somebody an NFT, there's the ability to lend
your NFTs using unlock protocol so that people can, you know, get into a gated event or something
like that, that you're not going to utilize it for, but without having to trust them to the
point of, you know, actually, you know, giving them full control over your NFT and that sort of
thing. So do that. But if somebody does issue something to one of those email wallets, it is
in that wallet. If they go to claim that wallet, it is there for them to claim. And
you don't have to worry about issuing a certificate or something that you want to be
soulbound like into a wallet and them claiming it with an email address. If they claim that wallet,
it's there. It's always tied to that email address in Unlock system. So if they continue using their
email address, they'll be perfectly fine. It's going to continue putting things in that same
wallet. So just know that that's the case. And you don't necessarily have to worry about losing
something like that if someone uses email for claiming their NFT.
Yeah, go ahead, Will.
So this mechanism you're describing as an alternative to sold-bound tokens,
that would still keep it in that wallet even in wallet draining an event?
Actually, yes.
And in fact, I've encouraged this so many times and I don't know why more
people don't listen to me about it um but if you issue NFTs in a way you can issue them in a way
um that allows people to actually have set their own key manager and have it go to, for instance,
a hardware wallet and then, you know, mint into a hot wallet. That is like such a better thing to
do because it gives them a level of security that they otherwise can't have. It means that they can go around the web and
authenticate themselves in different places without the worry of their NFTs being drained.
And if everybody did this, we wouldn't have to worry actually the same way that we do today
about having things stolen. So I would really love to see everybody start adopting this, um, as the norm,
um, where the person who is, you know, that there's two different addresses, one that's the,
the manager, the person who has the right to transfer and one who is the, um, own owner,
the one that, or the physical one that it's in. Um, and, and I think that think that that's going to be the future for sure.
I've been preaching about this for a really long time.
This is the way to do it.
This is the way we should be going forward.
We don't have to worry about some of the security issues.
And this is how we make it user-friendly for, you know,
those people who are not as skeptical as they
need to be online and are very fearful like the the people like my year and the moms and grandmas
of the world like these these are the things that we can do to make things more user-friendly for
them super cool uh we're gonna have to hop on a a call post GG23 because I need a show and tell visual.
Walk through, por favor.
Absolutely. Let's do it.
When's it going to happen?
I'll schedule it now.
I'll send you my calendar and you can see how full my calendar is and you find a time that works for you.
I love it.
We'll definitely do that for everyone. And I can highlight some more of those different use cases that are sort of unique that people might want to use these roles for that Unlock has created because they're really flexible.
And I can imagine a lot of different instances when they would be absolutely
useful. You know, for instance, that like that thing I was just talking about with access control
for, you know, a co-working space, you want to be able to have an issuing authority.
And then that person can be the one who transfers it maybe to another person if someone wants
to sell their membership or whatever.
That's the sort of thing that we want to enable people to do is like an ultimate level of
flexibility and not just stick with the regular.
So totally possible with the regular. So totally possible with unlock.
Unlock lovers unite.
Will, we're on the top of the hour.
You sure?
You said unlock lovers in the night.
Is that what you just said?
I said unlock lovers unite the night. Is that what you just said? I said unlock lovers unite.
Oh, okay.
So like fans of unlock.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Yes.
You know, not everyone gets my bad dad jokes.
I thought you would, but obviously your mind is too young.
What are you doing better than us?
I don't know.
Too young? I don't know know i'm doing anything better i just uh had a little deviation i misheard you and i thought you're talking about
like let's use unlock as a dating application and find new lovers in the night oh my, this is such a good idea. That's a new use case.
NFT-based romance.
Oh my God, imagine all the PFP people suddenly dating in a metaverse.
Okay, I'm getting, this is getting out of control.
Okay, here's the advertisement for it.
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This is it.
Love it, Will.
Can you record this, please?
It's already recorded.
You can clip it.
You can clip it if you want.
Yeah, I want to clip it.
How do I clip?
Just hit the scissors. Yeah, okay want to clip it. How do I clip? Just hit the scissors.
Yeah, okay.
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Nice.
Again, how do I get to this now?
It should give you the ability to post it.
Oh, no.
As a post.
It undid it.
That's fine.
Well, I'll get you the recording. I'll get you the recording
later when this session is done. It's fine. I'm so incapable. But also, yeah, this is a really
cool use case. I love it. Okay, guys, I have one more meeting I have to attend. So I will have to
leave you with a heavy heart. And you're fine. And anyone else that wants to stick around and
banter for the next 45
till Lucius gets here, you're more than welcome.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you for having me.
Bye-bye.
Bye, Stella.
See you later.
Bye, Stella.
See you.
Goodbye, Stella.
We're going to miss you.
Bye.
Okay, I'm going to stop.
Bye.
Bye, Tina.
Yeah, this was awesome.
So, Angela, well, I've got you here.
Anything, Will.
Anything for you.
Oh, you're so sweet.
Jeez, how did I get so special in your world in Web3?
I don't know.
You gave me rides while I was in Denver.
Oh, is that all it takes?
I'm very able to put myself on the bike.
The simple things in life?
Yeah.
Do you want to talk about HydraPad and White Hat DAO?
Yeah, I'm happy to.
So some history, some lore behind the White Hat DAO. Actually, White Hat DAO came
to me years ago when they were working on their own community there. They were using Unlock for their community DAO token.
And I got to know the guys over there really well over time.
And such a great experience working with them
on a few different things.
They had this really great dashboard. Unfortunately, there was the down market and
the craziness with all of that. Things fizzled out a little bit, but they went quiet and inward
instead of disbanding entirely and been like working in the background on stuff
as a group for for quite some time. And they saw all the insanity that was happening with,
you know, pumped up fun and people launching tokens and that were going crazy that were,
you know, of no use or value, really, or not supporting
anything real. You know, there's so many of those stories. And they decided to actually create a
platform for fair launch, that was even, you know, more secure than you can imagine in that any tokens that are unlocked for the
actual issuer are done over time. And there's a whole bunch of other features that sort of like
make things way more fair in the way that things are launched so that you don't have to worry about getting rugged. And, and I think that in the future, hydropad is going to be
where people go for the really solid projects for the ones that are launching their token.
And, you know, have some actual morals behind their behind whatever it is they're trying to build.
And I'm all for like, you know, the founders and the builders in this space getting fairly
compensated for what they do. Because let me tell you, it's not that easy. You know,
everybody thinks that they're going to do a thing and it's just so easy. But, you know,
as a dev myself,
I can tell you it's not. And a lot of work goes into a lot of these things that we use every day.
And, and I just, I hate to see the things that like bring a bad name though, that are these
clear pump and dumps that, you know, are taking advantage of people's hopes and dreams and savings sometimes in a
way that is in, in my mind, criminal.
And I really,
really hope we just drive all of that out of this space by creating some
tools like HydroPad that are going to sort of change
the the dynamics so giving people the tools um that are launching the good projects um that uh
will will make the general public much more comfortable and confident uh in those launches
and that will sort of become the norm in the future.
That's my hope, that we can move away from these tools
that are just making it way too easy for people
to take advantage.
And so far, they're doing pretty good.
But they could use some more support.
Right now, it's almost ready to launch. Literally there's like one,
one little, um, snafu with some gas that I'm helping the guys with right now.
And then it'll be ready to launch. Um, and there's some really exciting partnerships behind that,
um, that, uh, we've been working on now for months and months. And, uh, you know, I'm really excited for them.
I've been advising them on this for over a year,
sort of quietly.
And, you know, they're finally getting to a point now
where we can talk about it
and put more information out there.
And the money is just going to go towards audits
and towards, you know, straight up feature development or any bug fixes that we find during beta.
And so, you know, it's all going straight towards development for this, you know, completely open source fair launch project.
And I'm just I'm really excited to see us like moving forward and past this,
you know, meme coin stuff that is not the healthy kind. And, you know, I can get behind some of the
meme coins that have a purpose behind them, who, who like are, are there for the sake of, um, uh, you know, elevating a cause or bringing attention
to something important. Um, those are the types of things that I really love to see,
but there's just been way too many, you know, Libra coins and other things like that,
where it's like clear insiders, just, you know, really stealing people's money. And,
and I can't, I can't say enough how those things
really harm us all. And especially those of us who are here actually trying to do something good
for humanity with this technology, because it gives it a bad name, and it doesn't deserve that.
In fact, it's quite the opposite. I think the underlying original ethos is the reasons why we all stepped into the space,
self-sovereignty, privacy, censorship resistance.
There's all these original ethos behind Web3 as a movement that still exists. And yeah, like more tools that
get us away from all the bad stuff makes it that much better in my mind. So I'm excited for that
to get launched finally. And, you know, they're up on Gitcoin. So throw them some love. Even if
it's just a dollar, remember those,
remember that quadratic funding makes a difference, you guys. Throw the smallest
amounts around and that makes a big difference. So especially if you take the time to go on
Passport and, you know and do some of the activities
that give you a higher score on Passport.
Those hold weight with the formula
for how people get funded.
So definitely take the time to do that if you haven't.
Go see what's new on Passport
to see if there's anything that is expired
before you throw a
dollar on something. Go do that because some of those activities do expire. You have to remove
them every once in a while. So just be sure to go do those things to make the weight of your
donation, however small it is, that much stronger for these causes that really deserve it. And I'm
just so happy that they exist and that I'm not out here alone and that there stronger for these causes that really deserve it. And I, I'm just like, so happy that
they exist and that I, you know, I'm not out here alone and that there's all these amazing people
in this space, in this call, you know, at let's grow live. Um, you know, I, everyone here that
are doing good things and moving this space forward towards positivity and working to combat every day,
you know, the grifters in the space and the people who are taking advantage of, you know,
the poor people who don't know any better at this point. So yeah, let's change it for the better.
That's my, that's my motto right now.
Focus on the positivity and it'll eventually outshine the, you know, the darkness and the corners.
Is that the right, I just found something on Hydropad's X page, but I don't know if that's accurate still to support them in GG23.
But feel free to plant something in the garden, Angela.
Absolutely.
It's like cricket coins a fan oh go ahead oh i was gonna say if anybody has any questions
about that too feel free to ask or unlock or anything else um i'm always here to give advice
and happy to share the knowledge
Share the knowledge.
Grow with you all.
Together.
Hell yeah.
This community has given so much back to me.
You know, always been there for me through thick and thin.
So, always happy to share. Well, thank you for
thank you for your presentation because it bought me time so that I could get
my grow host role on the proper phone. So I want to thank you for that. That was awesome.
Yeah. Angela's up here to field any Q&As about anything,
even generally speaking that she has knowledge on.
She's an amazing human being.
I met her at East Denver.
Like she alluded to earlier, I did provide her with her for transportation.
That's what I do for my Web3 family when they come into my city for a blockchain event.
And we got to know each other.
I actually probably learned more from Angela about how Unlock Protocol works
than three months being in the community and just talking to other people.
So just in what, Angela, what?
We hung out probably only two or three days out of the total week.
But in our interactions, I learned more from you than I've learned from anyone else
in the Unlocked Protocol DAO about the smart contracts and everything.
So thank you for that.
Yeah, I wish we had more time to spend together.
It was such a whirlwind.
It was a crazy week.
It was so busy.
So many different events in a million different places, but it was really fun.
So many different events in a million different places.
But it was really fun.
The energy at Denver this year was, it was really great.
I have to admit, Year of the Regen, can I just say woot to that?
Because I was really excited to see it.
And I think it's true.
And I'm excited for every year to be the
year of the regen honestly
that's the way we need to go
keeping it real
and that's the way we need
to grow
by the way did you pick up your week
pass yet
Angela
I did nice what did you pick up your week pass yet? Angela? I did. Nice. What did you think of the checkout?
Because Donnie is the one that, or Jerry, I'm sorry, Jerry WTF is the one that designed that
for us. Oh, nice. Nice job, Jerry. And also, can I say that I actually signed up entirely for Let's Grow DAO.
So my aunt's in there.
When the craziness of the week passes, I'm sure, you know, it'll get voted on or whatever.
But yay.
And just so you know what she is talking about, she has submitted a proposal to join the Let's Grow DAO community in our garden, which is housed on Charmverse.
This is part of our onboarding process.
And everybody who has grow tokens in their wallet has access to the garden and can influence that vote to accept her as part of our community.
And I feel before too long, you're going to be joining one of our working groups.
You're going to get really involved in Let's Grow Now because, well, coming soon,
we have a handbook that we're working on that will be ratified shortly after GG23.
Included in that handbook, We are launching our bounty program, which is also operated solely
on Charmverse, which will get you an EAS attestation on the back end for work completed
on behalf of the DAO. And we will be rewarding those bounties in our reputation token,
Grow, of which I found out today that Grow can also be used new use case for grow in the gardens.fund and the gardens that are developing there.
It can be used as a way to vote in that environment as well.
So, yay, more use cases for reputation token.
I love it.
So, yeah, if you hold grow, you're in our garden. you want to join our garden, just go to letsgrow.network.
Find the garden link.
You can join our garden there after you've minted your Manifest Grow NFT.
Also, that checkout is provided by Unlock.
And the gas fees on our Manifesto NFT are sponsored by Unlock Protocol as well.
So this is interesting.
A lot of people don't know this, that there are several chains who have been kind enough
to give Unlock some sponsorship for gas
for people who want to mint.
Anything that is $0 is free on some of the chains,
not all of them, but some of them, quite a few of them.
And some of those Unlock Labs was kind enough
to provide the funds for.
Some of those were subsidized by the chains themselves um so just know that that's the case uh for those of you who are worried about
this issue with uh email addresses and trying to onboard people who um are you know not not maybe
not don't have any gas to pay for um you know, the minting itself. If it's something that's,
if it's a free event, if it's on one of the less expensive chains, then it is going to be
absolutely free to mint those on Unlock. Take advantage of that. It's there for you guys to do that. And if someone chooses to use
a credit card for those that are charged, they can use their email address and credit card,
and you don't have to worry about that either. It can be a completely wallet-free experience for
that person because they don't sponsor the gas for things that people
charge for. Of course, that would be a little bit silly. So just know that that's the case
and that's available for you guys to use. Take advantage of it for sure.
1,000%. Yeah, our manifesto is on optimism. And yeah, please do make sure you also read the manifesto, manifest grow.
Well, it's a vocabulary words.
I'm using my vocabulary right now.
But our manifesto, please make sure you read through it,
especially you read through the value set to ensure that you're aligned with that as well.
You'll find some other nice things on Let's Grow.network, the official website of Let's Grow DAO.
So now that we've covered that, Angela, I know you've been speaking for a long time, but I am aware of another amazing project that you're working on.
I would love to give you the floor if you'd like to talk about HAP.
I would love to give you the floor if you'd like to talk about HAP.
Yeah, I'd be happy to and happy to answer any questions that people might have about it.
This is a more long-term project that we have been working on. I'm currently in lots of talks
now with VCs about actually getting some serious funding for it
because it's gotten that far along. And Captain Southpaw, who is Alex Chambers, who I actually
met in the Unlocked DAO, who after, you know, going through some experiences with him, you know, having him lead our DAO through, you know, some workshops and working
on some other contract work together for some other projects.
You know, him and I got into this crazy research project on AI and safety. And, you know, we were trying to figure out how are we going to adopt this
technology safely? There's already so much complication with blockchains and wallets,
and then you give wallets to AI agents, and it's like a whole nother level of craziness, right?
And, you know, we kind of approached it in a different way, because he's
an HCI researcher, and I'm an engineer. So we come from, you know, two completely different worlds.
And what that research ended up being was the human alignment framework. And that's a framework
for evaluating emerging technology, and its alignment to humanity. And it's looking at it through
a bunch of different lenses. So security, safety, but also psychosocial issues,
dark patterns, things like that, and really evaluating how aligned a system was with humans.
aligned a system was with humans. And through the process of trying to figure out how we bring that
framework and really, you know, the information that I can provide about other platforms to the
general public, who is our audience, we decided to just create something that changed the way that people surf the web.
And instead of surfing the web through a browser-like experience,
you know, using Google or using your favorite, you know, chat interface,
which a lot of people are doing these days,
that instead it would be an AI assistant.
And that assistant would not just bring the web to you
and actually create a user experience
that was very much aligned with you as a human,
that was completely custom based on your own needs and wants.
And, you know, including serving up, you know,
information to people with disabilities and things like that,
you know, that are normally maybe sites that are not user friendly for those people, for example.
Or if you have, you know, your own way that you go about working it, understanding that and
understanding also that the difference in context between your desktop and your phone and things like that.
And so that's what we did.
We started working on that already.
We're working on some early prototype-y stuff
now that the models themselves
are starting to get trained up enough.
And we also have a couple of other bankroll products
that are re-imagining user experience on, you know, some existing tough problems on the Internet.
You know, we've we've sort of like made it our goal to change the way that people look at user experience in general as a company.
at user experience in general as a company.
We welcomed our first employee recently
and hopefully a few more coming along soon.
And I'm just really excited to be working on stuff
that feels really meaningful.
You know, I love working on open source software.
I love the idea of, you know, thinking more deeply about how
we use AI and ensuring that we, you know, don't create the dystopic future, which we all know
is a possibility. And I'm very much a person who is, believe it or not, you know, despite my want
for everything to be perfect and for us to think deeply about how this affects humanity, I am not for regulation because I usually I lean towards the side of, you know, the regulators aren't always the people you can trust.
have the best understanding of the technology to regulate it in a way that actually stops any of
some of these bad things from happening, believe it or not. So I feel like the only way forward
is to keep it open. And, you know, AI is ultimately based on math, and you can't regulate math.
And I, you know, my hope is that instead, we can just show people that,
you know, that responsible companies can exist. You know, we're registered as a social good
in Washington state. And, you know, I think that there's no reason why we can't, you know,
There's no reason why we can't, you know, make enough money to feed our families, but also provide a decent experience for people using these new tools, using blockchain, using AI, and obfuscating all of the difficulty away from these tools that have emerged because let's be honest, for regular users, if you have
to pick a network or pick your AI model, you've already lost them at that point. That's not
friendly. That's not user-friendly at all. Most people don't even know what either one of those
things mean. But every single tool you see around is exactly that. And that's just not realistic for general adoption of these tools. And I want
to see general adoption of these tools happen because I think that they can really empower
humanity to do some great things. I think in the hands of everyone, these tools can free us from a
lot of mundane work. And not only that, but help solve some of the more difficult problems we have
lying ahead of us, you know, to do with the environment and things like that. So
I think that they're really, it's really important to actually think about getting these into the
hands of regular people and not expecting them to do the heavy lift that's required and not opening themselves up to the risk.
That's the other part of it that is really, really important to me. Like we, we can't expect
that self-sovereignty is something that ends up putting people at risk the way that we have so far. I don't think it's really fair. It's anxiety feeling for a lot of
people that just the idea that they might make a simple mistake and lose everything. We can't do
that. We have to build tools to make it easier for them. We have to have a way to evaluate those
tools. And HAP, the human alignment platform, is meant to be the tool that is on your side.
That kind of sits between you and all the other ones that is speaking with the other AI agents, but also.
you know, it's already evaluated them. To hook into all of your other platforms, but do it in a
way to ensure that your data is safe and secure. It uses ZK technology to store a lot of information
that's required for all of that to work seamlessly. I come from a deep background intertwined with security, clearly with my
involvement in White Hat DAO, but not just that. I literally shared an office when I was a consultant
for many years with a security researcher firm that did audits on all of the apps that I built
and got to know the guys there really well,
some of which have been, you know, in all kinds of different positions, including,
you know, the head, the head of OAuth, you know, and things like that. So there's, there's,
you know, this part of me, I'm a builder, I'm a forward engineer, not a reverse engineer, but
there's this part of me that cares really deeply about security. And, you know, I'm a forward engineer, not a reverse engineer, but there's this part
of me that cares really deeply about security.
And it's sort of like woven into the history of my work at every step.
And that's sort of the lens that we're coming from.
Things should be secure and user friendly and create you know, create a better world and not
complicate it. So we're looking to solve problems that exist today, not just in Web3, but also in
Web2 together at the same time and actually reduce the overwhelm that people are feeling
about the number of hours that they spend online, because it's a serious problem for society,
actually. And, you know, our hope is that we might be able to make a little bit of a dent there.
I want to ask you a quick question. What does it take to register an entity as a social good?
to register an entity as a social good?
Oh, that's a good question.
It's different in every state.
In Washington state, it's about, you know,
how you write your operating agreements.
So you have to, you just have to be explicit
in your operating agreement that you're allowed to consider
things other than fiscal responsibility in your decisions as a board.
And so we're allowed to consider user experience over money when we make our decisions, corporate decisions. So user experience drives
everything that we do, including, you know, how we make even decisions at the corporate level,
believe it or not. And, you know, different states have different rules about how you might have to report and
things like that.
You know, it's not so complicated, really.
It's just a matter of, you know, can people sue you effectively if you go public later
too, that you want to make sure that you write those things into your bylaws so that you
can make those sorts of decisions without being sued by shareholders.
And I think that you'll find that actually you can still make a profit.
That's profit's not the problem.
It's having to make decisions only based on money that has caused corporations to go evil
a lot.
And so it's really not that hard for you to avoid that just by writing into your bylaws.
Hey, we're allowed to make decisions about things that are not just based on fiscal
responsibility.
And that's not true with a regular company.
In fact, one of my former bosses who was a VC
and who I did a startup with
and he taught me so much about so many things,
was sued at one point for a reason like this. People thinking that he made a decision
that wasn't 100% in the best interest of the money, of the shareholders' money. And it was,
you know, a really difficult fight for him. He ultimately won that fight. But at the end of the
day, you never know when
something like that is going to happen. Being a full nonprofit organization is difficult. Like
the level of lift you have to do in order to get that and the extra hoops you have to jump through
can sometimes slow you down. So I'd encourage anybody who doesn't want to go through quite all of that,
but doesn't necessarily care 100% about making a profit, but wants to create an organization that
is somewhere in between so that they don't, you know, there's a whole bunch of other complicated
IRS rules here in the United States about nonprofit organizations, things you can and can't do.
You can't get a mortgage. So you can't buy a building with a loan. You can't
carry too much cash. There's a lot of things you can't do. And so it really complicates things like having an organization that is a social our goal was to get things up and running sooner rather than later, because
we know that some of the types of things that we're working on are probably being worked
on right now by some of the big tech companies.
And we're trying to beat them to that.
You know, hopefully we'll make it there or hopefully people will see the benefit of,
you know, going with a small, the small scrappy startup who cares about humans more than
a bottom line and, and sees the benefit of, you know, trusting in us over some of the big tech
companies. But we realized that that's the case. And so we wanted to move fast and going for a full nonprofit
would didn't really allow that for us.
Social goods are a good thing.
There's quite a few companies that do a lot of good in the world that run that way.
Patagonia, Chobani, there's a whole bunch, you know, B Corps.
A lot of the B Corps are are um you know registered social goods
audio check one two one two audio check are we good to grow
you're a little muty but i can hear you okay well
you're a little muty but i can hear you okay
are you in my bluetooth i'm in my bluetooth on my car yeah you're doing pretty good for in your car
i made the transit i got rugs point out of my driveway
but we're back and thank you angela you You filled a fair amount of time there. So I appreciate that.
Always happy to help.
Always happy to answer any questions anybody in the audience has too about any of
the stuff we've talked about so far. Unlocked, social goods, any of it.
Yeah. I think PicketCoin or Macek might have some questions.
Go for it hey angela nice to see you again hello well thank you for inviting me up here and um just uh join
in and uh actually at least gives me a chance to say hello to angela and i see my message down
there and brad bammyami and some of the listeners.
Hope you guys are having an amazing one. How are you guys doing? But yeah, no, amazing, amazing
discussions. So much to learn from, so many directions to go into and, you know, creating
something, you know, with the whole team is very, very important to have everything sort
of like work as a clock for you.
So yeah, absolutely.
Great points there.
I wish I could stay forever and talk about all of these things.
I do have to run everyone.
And I appreciate all the time that everybody's given.
Happy to come back and talk about any of them.
I'll pop by a few times this weekend and say hello and listen in on all the other great
all the other great people I know that are going to be on the roster. Just lovely as always. And,
people I know that are going to be on the roster.
you know, great to connect. Great to see so many other faces in the audience today too.
So keep growing y'all. You know, let's, let's, let's grow. I can't, I can't, I can't say it
enough, like how much I appreciate this community and a
get coin for everything that they do to support all these really great causes. Don't forget that
the smallest donations make the make the biggest impact. So just go out there and make them
however small they can be. Make your heard um and i'll see you guys all
soon see you angela have a great night enjoy your evening angela
hey uh before we flip it to modtech i see you wanting to open up your mic. Ceci, did we get a link for Unlocked for GG20 Plants in the Garden?
Let me grab that for you.
Just a moment.
Okay.
And then we'll flip it over to Montek.
I know he's going to fill a couple minutes' time.
I've got to run into the store.
Have fun.
Talk amongst yourselves.
I'll be back.
Tell us how your morning is,
Mod Tech, don't be basketball.
Hi, good morning, guys.
Lots of love from Chinese mountains.
I left this morning to finally meet my brother.
After 23 years, I'm going to pick up my brother after 23 years
I'm going to pick up my daughter from the airport
she's coming from Thailand where she's at the school with her mom
so waiting for the bus
yeah, very interesting conversation
I didn't understand everything but uh
but the concerning the the ngo um you know decision to open this or that kind of uh
this or that kind of enterprise it's it's definitely something what what I was
doing and debating for four years I had the foundation for hiding around eight Eight years, official foundation in Poland. And in my opinion, especially at the beginning, when there is not so much funding opportunities,
where there is not so much cash flow, then definitely suggestion to open some kind of community social company, Kolejne firmy społecznej, która może ma mniej więcej wyborów, ale z mojej doświadczenia, daje ci więcej wolność do robienia różnych rzeczy. especially if you run this kind of official foundation you had to apply for
special permission to be able to sell anything you know to raise funds for for
for the work so and then of course you have to pay for a accountant which in my case wasn't that expensive.
You have to do audit, of course, every year.
So it's a lot of costs connected with that decision.
So definitely, you know, we have to think it through.
But if the community is strong, if there is a vision for the money, most of all,
because we all know that without funding it's hard to support family, you know,
and without any kind of benefits, especially when we are getting older and older then then is hard you
know i i realized quite fast that that my path would be to run a business and then run a development w projektach rozwoju, ponieważ byłam zniszczył z tym, że
zniszczyłem się z tym, że zniszczyłem się z tym, że nie działał. And then a lot of times it didn't work. So I decided to make my own money and then to use it.
One second, let me get into the bus.
I'm back. Did you miss me?
Yay.
Hearing you a little far.
Yeah, that's because I'm on the Bluetooth in my car, so it might not be the same as my earbuds.
Let me see if I can. Is that better?
Yes, yes.
Oh, okay. Cool. All right. Awesome awesome let me put my other beds away i'm on my way to work
tonight i have to work at the museum i am playing a little bit different role than i usually play
as an events manager i'm playing event safety host so just making sure that all the guests are safe and nobody leaves with any uh adult beverages
but tonight is a non-adult beverage event so yeah not sure what to expect when i get there
so yeah pick a coin what oh sorry was someone gonna say something
say something? No, no, I just wanted to tell you that I just pinned in the garden the post of our
GG23 round for unlock, so just please consider it in your cart and support open source protocols that are empowering creators, communities, event organizers, artists, and
many, many more people.
So yeah, please check it out and feel free to join also our community.
And if you have any questions or maybe any feedback also by using the protocol, please do.
We are really open to any feedback and we would love to have your feedback, in fact.
So, yeah, please do.
Did you know, Will, today we here in Bolivia we are having some kind of a strike, so it uh it was planned to uh have talk today uh at ethereum bolivia and unfortunately this couldn't
happen because of the strike so uh there were so many people in on the streets like um especially the transport people that they are like fighting for having higher fees and yeah the citizens
are not liking this so it's kind of a mess right now and yeah we couldn't have that that meet up today and hopefully next week or the week later we will replace and reprogram
this meetup so yeah I think there will be more talks here in Bolivia in La Paz specifically
in Bolivia, in La Paz specifically, about Web3, because there are also ready talks planned during
the next weekend, starting tomorrow and then the last weekend of April, and yeah, I think
this is going to be a little bit more crowded with events and things here.
No, I wasn't aware of the strike.
What was the purpose of the meetup that you're going to have?
Our meetup, this is our regular meetup that we usually host.
It's our monthly meetup, this is our regular meetup that we usually host, is our monthly meetup. So in every meetup we talk about technology, maybe some updates or some feature, or maybe
there's a new protocol or a new tool or a new platform that is breaking into Bolivia.
So we usually do that every month.
And this month we were going to cover how Web3 could be used for voting processes and then we will also be covering Unlock and how open source protocols
can empower people for content creation and memberships and all those kind of things,
just using the protocol without being a programmer or a developer.
So, yeah, we were going to cover that,
and I think we are going to move this to a later date.
Got it. I understand.
Well, up next would be a lucid on the way
I don't think a lucid is coming on
tonight I thought he was going into the forest
over the weekend
he might still be around we'll see
yeah sure
he's usually at 8
right
it's usually him followed by tricky buddha and then uh then dj
awesome yeah good good to know
so how how has it been has it been uh at the let Let's Grow Live during the day?
Were you having any special guests before?
Oh yeah, we've had some special guests on.
We've had, let me see, Shoby from Throw the Pie.
We did a video interview with Sam. We had Alex from the Let's Grow Live. We've had, let me see, Toby from Girl to Pi.
We did a video interview with Sam.
We had Alex on from Green Joe.
We've had Coach Dan.
Recently, I feel, well, I don't know if that's happened or not, because it could have involved sleeping.
Right.
And then yesterday I interviewed Zal from Better Call Zal and the Zal about his ecosystem and his community of West Street
musicians.
So we have a few intersections of community.
That was a cross-polling event.
And coming up Monday, I feel like it's Monday's 14th, yeah?
I'm going to be interviewing Kevin Rod from Citizen Wallet.
So that's going to be really exciting.
So, yeah, and I know that you and Samuel over at Reef Life Olivia have a keen interest in system wallet, of having a democratized wallet solution that you could create a community token on and run on those rails.
So, yeah, I don't know that we'll get into that in my interview, but we definitely can explore it on their next monthly community call with them.
And I think they'd love that idea because a lot of the trend right now in the regen
ecosystem that I see is around community tokens.
That's how gardens is building.
That's how the regen coordination network is building with the emphasis on community
tokens and creating
a circular economy.
So more to come on that, but I'm excited about that piece of the equation being filled.
And if it gives your community a way to create value and being able to use the token for pretty much anything within that community
while preserving your purchasing power as an alternative to the state-sponsored governmental
currencies that are out there that may be under hyperinflation and hyperdevaluation.
I feel it's going to benefit, especially it'll be a big benefit to the developing economies,
but it's going to be a big benefit to the communities that are developing inside of Web3.
Awesome. I will be expecting that. At what time will it be, the interview to Citizen Wallet?
I'll have to double check on my TV. Let's going to be 1800 UTC.
800 UTC.
1800 which is 6 p.m. UTC. So what would that translate to you like noon? No.
6 UTC, that would be like 2 p.m.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's overlapping a call.
Yeah, we record them all and we put them out on the channel partner network so at the very least you'll be able to find the video replay on let's go down account
awesome awesome yes yes because i couldn't i couldn't join the last community call on Discord, said it was on some kind of channel,
but then when I asked, it said, oh no, this is on Meet, and I couldn't have the link to the Meet,
and the events on the Discord, I don't know.
I didn't see any update on that.
So, yeah, I hope this time I will get it right.
No, it's not your fault at all.
It was supposed to be on their Discord.
They changed it to Google Meet.
I checked it out for the fact.
I didn't realize the calendar invite
that I set up for you and Samuel and Sandra
had my person Google Meet attached.
So I probably owe you the apology for the confusion
that it created.
But it's all good because guess what we're
going to do growing forward?
Anytime I want any of our leadership team and pathways
for Lassam to attend another meeting,
we're just going to set up an unlock event page for it.
Yes, 100%. Awesome.
Yeah, that would be great.
Yes, I am subscribing to the events and the calendar, so i hope to have it right now and
um yeah we'll be joining on may yeah i think it's no worries i think it's may uh 7th okay
oh seventh okay yeah may let me check yeah may 7th at 11 est 11 a.m est
awesome super cool cool uh will i need to i need to leave i have to oh you're fine
yeah you do your thing i know it's getting late for you it's eight o'clock so you do your thing
we'll be here when you want to come back and um you know maybe just everybody needs to listen to the sounds of me driving to work. No, I'm just kidding.
Yeah, sure, sure.
I will try to connect later.
Yeah, no problem.
We'll be here.
We will be here.
Sure.
Have a great night, people.
See you later. Bye'll ask the mañana or I'll
go yeah so we will we will rejoin soon by my chick creek mommy ayahuaca kimberly kian ixb awesome to have you here see you later bye bye
adios
All right, you just left me all by myself.
I've got the floor.
I've got the agenda.
Oh, my goodness.
What shall I talk about tonight?
Well, first and foremost, I want to extend appreciation and gratitude to all the stewards
and hosts or draw hosts of Let's Go Now for making this happen and putting this effort
and emphasis on public goods, projects, initiatives, startup entities inside of GIGFLYN Grants 23, supporting open source builders and communities
that use their tools and solutions.
One second, you're gonna be alone with your thoughts
and have some meditative time for a few moments
and I'll be back with you shortly. Thank you. Thank you. All right.
Hopefully you guys had a nice introspective meditation here at Meditation Station.
And GroNation Station, too. meditation here at meditation station and grow nation station too oh man well i hope everyone's been having a great bitcoin grants 23 we did have a uh improxy interview today with matilda
who is the bitcoin grant branch lead at Gitcoin.
Hopefully you guys tuned in and tapped into that.
We've been at a good time there.
Let's see what else is going on.
We've set some milestones and achievements at the community effort, which is super cool
because I don't know that anyone human is capable of pulling off what we pulled off.
But, yeah, we're here for you.
We're here to support you if you have a grant in GG21.
I mean, GG23.
Oh, man, GG21 was a good time, too.
Anyway, if you have a grant in GG23, we invite you to come up here and say, present your project, plant your length of your grant in our garden, and let everybody get to know you, what you're working on, what your focus is, how you're making an impact. It could be a localized impact.
It could be a global impact.
It doesn't really matter what the focus is, as long as you're having an impact.
Maybe that's what we'll call this.
You know, we've been spit on and brainstorming some ideas once this goes full-time 24-7,
around the clock, around the calendar.
Maybe we'll call it the Impact Maker Radio.
Wouldn't that be so cool?
That's got a nice thing to it, I think.
Impact Maker Radio.
The radio station for impact makers.
They co-create, collaborate, and share their work.
And we have mechanisms now that when we do share our work, right,
we can be rewarded in reputational topics.
We're sharing our work with our peers and be evaluated with them.
Because I think that's probably one of the most beautiful things of Web3
outside of the altruism and the philanthropy that exists
inside of Web3 is the opportunity to get a peer-to-peer review, right?
It's not really common in the traditional business sense, but, you know, unless you're
maybe working in academia, you know, academic studies at the university or the college level.
I know that that exists there, especially in the science communities and other communities as well,
but it's not something you commonly find in the more traditional business sense.
So I think it's pretty cool.
And then we can reward and build these reward mechanisms that are reputationally based,
kind of like a peer review in an academia level and gain credibility
for what we're working on, what our focus is, what problems we're looking to solve,
either at an environmental level or at a societal level, a cultural level maybe, right?
Or it could be a social level too.
Yep, really cool stuff. So what's everyone's plans for the weekend?
That's what I want to find out.
What some things are going to do in your local community for the weekend?
I know a lot of people around the world look forward to maybe taking a couple days off work if you work a Monday through Friday job.
Right?
Spend time with the family, maybe traveling, going somewhere, seeing some sights.
Maybe you're going to go to a festival.
It is in the northern hemisphere getting warmer.
For sure, we're coming out of the winter.
Southern hemisphere is transitioning into fall right now.
But I've heard that they had a pretty brutal summer this year.
So I don't know how that's going to translate for us in the northern hemisphere
and the western world.
So we'll just have to see how that all plays out.
But summer is by far my favorite season.
I love summer.
I love sunshine.
I love the warm weather.
I love the sun smiling on my face.
And you would think it would be the opposite, because I live in a cold weather climate where the winters can be brutal.
I've lived here all my life for five decades. It's not been used to it,
but I never got used to the cold or the snow. I like the snow. I like the snow when it's
like, you know, 40 degrees. You get those big fluffy flakes that are so playful.
That's kind of snow I like.
I don't like snow when it's like 10 degrees outside, and I'm talking in Fahrenheit, because
that's the standard management system that we have here in the United States.
So, yeah, I don't really like it gets too cold.
So I guess in centigrade terms, I would be below zero for sure, because freezing 32 is zero.
So I'd say somewhere between four and five degrees, snowing.
That's pretty good.
Pretty solid.
And, of course, big fluffy flakes.
They're so beautiful.
And to imagine that every snowflake
is unique just like every human is unique just like every fingerprint on a human is unique
at the end of the day Man, I really wish Lucis was there tonight. I wanted to get some updates on the singlet sea.
It's cultivating in Mexico.
I know, Mammy, you were trying to get up here on stage earlier.
I don't know what happened, but feel free to accept the microphone.
Get up here on stage.
I'm going to throw some out.
Jonathan.
Excuse me.
I know it's getting late.
And you're a part of the world, too.
And you might not be awake or up right now.
But yeah, feel free to come through.
I'm not fixing to do stuff in the background with his family on a Saturday morning in China.
So, there we go.
I'm just taking a stroll through our garden
to see what I can see
to see what type of grace I can support
and add them to my heart
so So, we are growing, growing, growing, growing. You know, the other thing about Wilty is, you may or may not know, is Wilty likes to travel.
Wilty has a restless spirit for traveling and seeing other places around the world that I don't normally get to see in my local environment.
I don't normally get to see in my local environment.
I really love to engage with people and learn about cultures and food.
You know, when you take a day in the life of someone else's food and get experience,
how they live life on a daily basis, even if it's just for one day,
is, at least in my opinion, one of the most
beneficial experiences we can have as human beings. And then, of course, the conversations
that can be struck up in the relationship building, I mean, it's pretty complex.
I'm saying that we're pretty complex as a species, for sure.
So yeah, I want to get back to traveling.
I got a taste of that last December
when I got invited to speak at Tulum Crypto Fest.
And yeah, Tulum Crypto Fest, man, that was awesome.
It was the first time I've traveled outside the U.S.
in a long time.
Definitely was a much needed respite from what I'm usually used to in my natural life, in my natural environment.
So, yeah, Salume is a vibe. And it's a pretty relaxed vibe, a pretty, like, not really being in a hurry to anywhere kind of vibe.
So let's talk about our experiences tonight, Sally.
I see some new speakers, or new listeners at least, going to the stage.
Going in the space, figuring out what's going on here.
We've got the COO.
That's a, does that say pandemic?
Oh, see.
What are you working on, Precise?
Someone, someone's coming on stage. Oh, Jonathan! oh
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
ah um is it good morning that side but it's here 3 a.m actually it's 21 minutes past 3 a.m
and in the morning it's it's really late here in uganda and i would love to put um
a big hand upload to you you know you've kept the the the flow on and you've kept the space
though few people have gone to sleep
it's really great to see that you're still on and and on and on so tell me Wilty, how is everything over there?
Everything is okay in the United States for now.
There has been a lot of change since the last time, right?
People are trying to figure out how they can navigate that climate, right? For me, it doesn't really impact me
outside of maybe agency and advocacy
for what I stand for, right?
But on a first level,
I'm looking to become a digital nomad within the next 90 to 120 days.
Okay.
That sounds real great.
Did you apply for any round?
We did apply for any round? We did apply for
regen coordination
or if we use our
vocabulary, regen
coordination.
Yeah.
But we were, you know,
they had
close to 30 communities
that are aligned communities with the network that
are not internally part of the network, meaning they're not a refi local node, or they're
not a greenfield chapter.
That's basically primarily what the region coordination network consists of or part of
agroforest south right so uh that said we we had the
council of region coordination did a very deep dive and performed very extensive due diligence
on what we're building in ks media but alas they could only accept so many aligned communities
But alas, they could only accept so many aligned communities into the route.
However, admittedly by the council, we are an aligned community.
They love what we're building.
They love our focus, especially for developing countries, right?
Coming from a Western and global North perspective, the approach that we're implementing is not common.
So they really love that aspect. We're going to be very instrumental in assisting in the design
of the refi toolkit. That'll be coming out after GG23, I expect. And yeah, we're looking to work alongside them and see what we can offer,
what we can implement, and help grow the network, but also we'll have our own specific localized
community focus within our leadership team in developing countries that have really taken
a lot of interest in the bypass that we've created for onboarding into Web3 without it
being a financial conversation or without it being a blocker to governments that don't
want people to be in Web3, if that makes sense.
Oh, that's great. We tried to apply actually on hypersets for nature, but yeah yeah we got accepted i think two days ago and i think the rounds
uh is getting done i think in three days time but i i also don't blame people
because you have to speak to a lot of people in order to get a Gronation.
But hopefully, we still stand at zero.
We don't have any contributor, unfortunately.
But we pray for the best.
Maybe within the two days, the three days, or the last dates of the the the Grenetians and then maybe but I
generally I hope maybe did you like I've always had this, did you have always something in mind whereby maybe some projects
needs to be, to have them registered in order to have proper accountability because um at times um
those things it disturbs a lot uh you can find a project coming two three seasons ah the project
has gone off though you trust the project is not there and um i think that it gives a bad impact because there are
some organizations that stand and maybe individual projects can also stand and then also the projects they are really nice ideas but
they are not like they are not registered but they get funds and they disappear so how
like i always have this in mind that question that how does like a funding committee or um
let me say regents regen coordination for example
example, like how
will they track all these
and find things moving forward in the right
direction? Because I've always asked myself
a lot of questions about
that. Yeah, no doubt.
I thought we had Arturo in here. He should be coming up next. I don't know what happened to him.
But yeah, that being said, there's a big push for karma and documentation of karma and recording of activities in karma and milestones and being held accountable to the milestones based on grants received growing forward.
So I know that's a big emphasis within the region coordination network.
I think more to come on that in the future.
But I feel that's a great starting point, right?
So hopefully that helps.
Yeah, sure. Hopefully that helps.
Yeah, sure.
Are you in the region coordination telegram group?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.
All right, cool.
Arturo from Rifa, Costa Rica. Is it region, Landia, or Landia region, joining us next.
Hello, buenas noches, Arturo, como esta? Estoy bien?
I think he's mute.
Yeah, he is muted.
I just want to make sure, can you still hear me?
Yeah?
You can still hear me?
I just got to one of my secondary jobs outside of Web3. Now I've got to lock my car and clock in for my shift. I'll be here for a few hours supporting all you fine folks
in GG23. So Arturo, when you're ready, yeah, you're good?
Okay.
What's going on?
Buenas noches.
Buenas noches.
Here, Arturo, from Costa Rica, was listening to you guys, you're awake, and, yeah, in a very humid and hot afternoon we're gonna be doing some
beach cleanups with the clean wave here in Hakko which is like a surf town or
used to be a surf town but now it's like a bigger town and today is the beginning of Easter. So it's a lot of people and it's crazy.
But here we are.
Yeah.
So what's going on here?
What were you talking about, Ayurveda?
What's interesting?
What's going on, Will?
Yeah. What's going on, Will? Yeah, Ayurveda, Uganda, which is Jonathan,
we were just talking about the accountability mechanisms
that are being implemented for, you know,
milestones being achieved on funding specific to the
Regen Coordination Network
and CARMA as a primary tool for that.
So if you have some more perspective on that,
I'm sure sharing that would be helpful and appreciated.
Well, I like the idea of the attestation and community validation.
That's for sure very nice.
I think, well, we updated our Karma Gap,
and it's a nice way to keep the books on the impact that we're doing.
So I think as a tool, it's functional for that reason.
So everything you do, then you just upload it into sorry into the karma gap and
it's a nice way to keep it yeah organized on the other side it might be
difficult for some people to do it I don't know it's kind of always web 3 is
kind of complicated still at the interface.
So sometimes you are typing something and then you make a mistake and everything erases.
So you have to start from scratch.
Something like Gitcoin also when you're doing the application.
It's like similar landscape.
But overall, I think it's a great idea.
But overall, I think it's a great idea.
And at the end of the day, as long as you can show what you're doing in different ways,
whether that might be even via social media or the protocol that you use in your organization to measure impact.
I don't know, timestamp pictures, geolocated pictures, things like that in the RSVP from your events, all of that it's cool to have in any organization. I think karma is kind of a standardized in that which is good I think is positive and this can
I don't know.
allow also I mean what happened with the hyperserts I tried to use hyperserts many times but it was
complex complicated and then I tried many times but then it was hard to mint them because one space will be, like one extra space will be showing everywhere and stuff like that.
But yeah, I really like the idea on how we, for this work,
and as we come closer to having more developed refi situations within this ecosystem to have retroactive funding for
the good things that we have been doing and the impact that we have been doing.
So, yeah, do you have any updates on HyperSerts?
I know there is a round on HyperSerts.
I just feel like every time I tried it was giving me an error so I wrote everybody
like even the developers and yeah it was just like also Monty. I was trying to contact people but
it was very hard to mint and we mint several but for some reason, more complex hypersers were complicated.
What's your experience using hypersers on CarMag app? Do you know any other tool
also on Web3 that does this kind of work?
Are you still there?
I am, yeah.
Did I rock?
Do you guys hear me?
Arturo, can you still hear me?
I can hear you, yeah.
Can you hear me?
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