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LETS HAVE A “real hip hop”. DISCUSSION 🗣️ CLUB PARADISE 🦉
Recorded: Aug. 10, 2025 Duration: 2:46:13Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, participants explored the dynamics of partnerships and growth in the crypto music scene, particularly focusing on Drake's influence and the implications of personal narratives on artist collaborations. The conversation also touched on the challenges faced by emerging artists in establishing their presence amidst established names.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. you
damn dog Yo, yo, yo, yo, what up gang? Gang goes gang girls shout out club paradise man good to see y'all
faces in this bitch shout out to the boy shout out to drake um my side yeah you know i'm gonna
say it again you know it's real late i know i know but bro bro had us up you know i had to i had to
i had to watch the stream i wanted to start a lot earlier. I had to see what kind of shenanigans
bro was going to get up on.
And he showed his ass.
But it's one of them,
if you know, you know.
So we will discuss it.
We need to.
But I feel like there's more to come.
So just let me know.
Chat gang in the chat say Europe.
Let me know y'all in this bitch.
No matter how late it is because it's the
weekend um i see the title see uh you know a lot of niggas been saying a lot of all this
bullshit they want to say when we the most hip-hop like the best music we can break shit down the most and we never swayed by the popular vote and that's a problem
We'll get to it. I said anybody I want to discuss it with me come up here go ahead and
You know request to speak chat gang and that bitch y'all gonna really be my you know my support system tonight
but go ahead and start this thing up
so we can Okay can just talk about it understand the chat
hunnison the chat uh and i need you to do it i usually do it three times i'm gonna say shed a
space five times shed a space shed a space shed a space let's go I'm having a stage of my life, I'm
I feel like I can talk to anything and everything.
Sipping all down period for no reason.
Popping tags up an echelon for no reason.
Seen this bad little jar, she was perfect.
I love the stuff for it right now.
Tag all the family in this bitch.
And if I do it, just quote the space. And it. Just close his face I'm getting beer inevitable Tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me You better not be on the phone, talking up a storm like you always laid through
Talking to your friends like you always laid through
Telling them I never spent time with you
It's hard to find the time we've been
Sipping all down period for no reason
Popping tags up an echelon for no reason See this up a extra life for no reason
See this bad little John. She was perfect. I'll ever push the far right now
Bring the ace by the case my niggas with me
Hey I
First to work though members I know you have your point of view have your way of thinking and it is what it
is fuck where everybody else say I'm gonna have a real conversation I wanna have to be a little tame tonight. Might not agree with you.
Cook them.
Don't delete them.
After the best intro ever created. I'll be letting it get like this, I don't know.
After the best intro ever created, God damn he smoked it.
I'm just in the chat, man. God, he's in the space again.
What are we?
Smoker out!
Woo-wee!
Smoker.
You see that?
Look, look, look.
All my men start putting the hunters in the chat.
The toxic-ass women,
they're like, nah, he ain't gonna tell me he's doing me dirty.
I ain't doing him dirty.
See, that's y'all problem. That's how you know y'all did somebody dirty.
God damn, ungrateful.
Ungrateful.
Your mama be ashamed, baby.
I haven't even heard from you.
Not a single word from you.
Ungrateful.
Ungrateful.
Woo!
And you see?
And look, all the women is putting the laughing emojis.
I know y'all ungrateful.
We're going to need you to relax.
Ungrateful. Mr. B. T. I know y'all ungrateful. We're going to need you to relax. Ungrateful.
Mr. B-Tain, you're the point of view.
Hey, everybody can get up here and talk.
I'm just giving my point of view.
I see everything.
I'm watching.
If y'all ungrateful, y'all ungrateful.
I'm just saying.
He didn't get it from nowhere.
He's plugging out of space.
Y'all making me nervous.
Jack is all bullshit today. I can see him already i'm turning up today fuck it i ain't been here in a minute i got my little rest i'm a little sick
i'm a little underweather but i'm turning the fuck up because drizzy back
and he said he working on ice man so i'm working on nice man or un-nice man
fuck it nice man or un-nice man. Fuck it.
See, remember, that's in my transition.
I wanted to go to this next right before we started.
I wanted to go to this.
This is a smoker.
This the one.
This that one.
Yeah. Get a plastic bag. Go ahead and pick up all the cash. Go ahead and pick up all the cash.
You danced all night, girl.
You deserve it.
Oh, yeah.
Major City on a Monday.
Ask, go treat that shit like church on Sunday.
Niggas look at us like maybe one day.
Maybe one day.
Maybe one day.
But for now, a nigga got the ones with me.
I be in the club with the bands like I got the keyboard and the drums with me.
Maybe one day. Maybe one day. You will understand how I get it, though.
Man, it's everything I ever said it is.
Mixing liquor cups with the sedatives.
I roll up with the fans on me.
Just a good night to dance on me.
Just a good night to dance on me.
Just a good night to dance on me, yeah.
Get a plastic bag.
Go ahead and pick a pot of cash. Go ahead and pick a pot of cash. You dance on me, girl. Get a plastic bag. Go ahead and pick a pot of cash.
Go ahead and pick a pot of cash.
You dance all night, girl. You dance all night, girl.
You deserve it.
Get a plastic bag.
Go ahead and pick a pot of cash.
Go ahead and pick a pot of cash.
You dance all night, girl.
You deserve it.
Yeah, last time I seen this shit was BML.
I know Big Leach and J-Boy, they was there.
I know OG, Indian, and Sugar there.
All yeah, all yeah.
Bust it out the rabbit hole.
All yeah, all yeah.
Told enough money on a Monday, and then you make it in a year.
All yeah.
All the 60,000 ones told the owner about to break a record.
Hit the parking lot, it's looking like a video.
Bunch of pretty hoes, house a ditty hoes.
A whole lot of stands in my past around, can't it?
Magic City on a Monday.
We worship this like a Sunday.
Oh, yeah.
Get a plastic bag.
Go ahead, pick a bout of cash.
Go ahead, pick a bout of cash.
You danced all night, girl, you deserve it.
Get a plastic bag.
Go ahead, pick a bout of cash.
Go ahead, pick a bout of cash. You danced all night, girl, you deserve it, get a plastic bag. Go ahead and pick a bout of cash. Go ahead and pick a bout of cash.
You danced all night, girl, you deserve it.
Get a plastic bag.
Go ahead and pick a bout of cash.
Go ahead and pick a bout of cash.
You danced all night, girl, you deserve it.
Get a plastic bag.
Go ahead and pick a bout of cash.
Go ahead and pick a bout of cash.
You danced all night, girl, you deserve it. Get a plastic bag. Go ahead and pick a bout of cash. I'm still waiting on everybody to jump in. You dance all night, girl. You serve. All right.
All right.
Man, speaking of the police, I'm still waiting on everybody to jump in.
Waiting on a couple people that said they had to say a couple things.
So let me rise the energy a little bit before we...
That's all.
Fuck it.
I'm gonna shoot you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Halloween.
Chalibur. Chalibur. I'm gonna shoot you. Yeah. Halloween. Taliban.
Taliban.
I don't know if she's...
Yeah.
Jumpin', jumpin', jumpin', them boys up to something.
They just spent like two or three weeks out the country.
Them boys up to something, they just not just bluffing.
You don't have to call, I hear my dance like Usher, ooh.
I just found my tempo like on DJ Mustard, woo!
I hit that Ginobi with my left hand up like woo!
Lobster and Celine for all my babies that I miss!
Chicken finger, french fry for them hoes that wanna dance!
Jumpin', jumpin', jumpin', them boys up to something!
Uh-uh-uh, I think I need some Robitussin'
Way too many questions, you must think I trust you! Youussin. Way too many questions.
You must think I trust you.
You searching for answers.
I do not know nothing.
I see him tweaking.
Ain't no something's coming.
Jumping, jumping, jumping.
Them boys are the something.
Jumping, jumping, jumping.
Fuck what you expecting.
Shout out, shout out.
Michael Jordan just said touch me.
Jumping, jumping, jumping, jumping, jumping, jumping. Oh Chicken wings and fries, we don't go on dates No boo, no boo, no boo, no boo, no boo, no boo
I just throw the private dinner in the
Trapping is a hobby, that's the way for me
Money coming fast, we never get a slip
I just had to buy another suit
Failing spurs and feral, Jordan fade away
Yeah, jump in, jump in, I don't need no introduction Oh Wow niggas is doomed for the rest of eternity. Remember my toad? I told you. I know I'm gonna get my bitch back.
I can't hold these right till they have on me now.
I'm gonna have you like what?
Shit in number nine, shit in number five, but you got them both.
Jump in, jump in, jump in, them boys up to something.
They just spent like two or three weeks out of the country.
Them boys up to something, they just not just bluffing.
Jump in, jump in, jump me, tell me, then what's up?
You know the root of it
You know the lies and you know the truth of it
Alright, alright, alright, we're gonna get to talking, we're gonna get to talking
Alright, alright, so all the speakers, all the speakers, I just wanted to put a good outro for the intro
That makes sense
I swear, I've been my shit, come a consequence
Boast no clarity, I came to my senses Came to my senses I'm a dog. Take care of the dog. Take care of the dog. Take care of the dog. Take care of the dog.
Take care of the dog.
The dog days are over.
The dog days are done.
You know I'm the one.
I'm the one.
I'm the one.
I'm the one.
I'm the one.
I'm the one.
I'm the one.
I'm the one.
I'm the one.
I'm the one.
I'm the one.
I'm the one.
I'm the one.
I'm the one.
I'm the one.
I'm the one.
I'm the one. I'm the one. I'm the one. I'm the one. I'm the one. Oh
The most relatable the most lyrical
We always do but I mean I mean I just wanted to make sure everybody remember who the real Goody is before we move on to these other artists.
All right, all right, all right. My bad, my bad, my bad.
What up, gangies, gangos, gangers,
members, how you feeling tonight?
She walking the dog.
Take care of the dog.
I'm doing so great, guys.
Wait, what?
Take care of the dogs.
I said take care of the dogs.
Take care of the dogs.
I was, I said, take care of the dogs. Take care of the dogs. I was trying to do something nice to fill in for you while you were doing whatever it
is you were trying to do, and then you want to start off with some bullshit immediately.
It's crazy.
Sorry, no, I was distracted.
What's up, RJ?
What up?
What are you telling me?
What's up?
What's up with this title? Were we having a real hip-hop talk? Were are you telling me? What's up? What's up with this title?
Were we having a real hip-hop talk?
Were you upset about Metro?
He keeps telling
blogs and media outlets
that he fell out with Drake
because Drake was being insensitive when his mom died
because he was pressing him
for a beat, but
we know Metro's a liar.
Habitual, incessantly lying unprovoked um so i pretty much doubt that that was the reason
that's 100 not the reason so yeah a main reason that that you can just know that's not true is
just based on the relationship that drake has with his mom i thought that's a pretty obvious like like uh piece of evidence that we can use to refute this totally baseless story also
if metro had anything like that uh like just post a text or shut your fucking mouth basically is my
thing post the voice note or shut up or post a text or shut up well i'm just saying that because
um ak brought it up in a stream like a week or two
ago and he was like, yeah, it's messed up
of Drake if he actually did that. And I'm like,
oh my god, the fact that you could even believe that
knowing the relationship he
has with his mom.
That is dumb.
Ak is habitually wrong about everything about Drake.
You don't even grant him that.
He has his moments.
Don't do him like that.
No, Ak does have his moments. I't do him like that. No, I can just have his moments.
I say habitually.
Not all the time.
It's habitually wrong about the boy.
He needs...
He's trying to get his career to be
popping, so he's going to say what he's got to say.
Right.
He's going to say what he needs to say
if him and Drake's goals are aligned
at the time, basically.
Yeah, you can't really trust Acta.
Nor should he basically just be like a mouthpiece for Drake because that just entirely ruins his credibility if he does talk positively about Drake.
But either way, yeah, that whole thing about Metro is just dumb as fuck.
So how do you sit there and say that this dude disrespected your mother but didn't turn around at the end of the beef and say it's all
entertainment
How many time Broden switched up he first he was saying I was about a girl and then we don't trust you
It should have been if it was about my mom and we don't trust you is I don't like you so he named the album
If you disrespect my mama is fuck you exactly so forever nigga i ain't gonna say oh it ain't really no beef we were just playing it's just about yeah so he's just making up whatever he
needs to make up in the moment to you know try to still stay in the moment but because like
i think i said it was like for um her loss or clb or something and then i was like well if
if that was the case if you felt that disrespected why would you even move forward and still send
him the beat if you felt that like right yeah like you disrespected your mom and also here's
the thing like let's just be realistic about this scenario in what world do we live in where drake
is pressing metro for a fucking beat like
what are we talking about right now as if drake needs like desperately needs a metro beat to like
propel his vision creatively or something like bro there's a story about like the sample for
the furthest thing like the outro furthest thing where 40 just like remade an entire fucking like
whole choir and like band and like remade a sample because
jake one didn't want to like you know sacrifice the beat like as if he wouldn't just do that with
a metro beat or an idea that metro had if he was like taking too long it's just so dumb that dricks
and like what do you think saying something about his mom's gonna make him singe you the beat faster
like what are we talking about right now none of it makes sense yeah yeah that's the whole thing like you know that's what i'm saying we're gonna get off of this after
this i don't even want to make this a topic but it's drizzy even with the the whole little trans
thing he tried to to press he sent that to drake first y'all know that right that trans beat he
made it he sent it to drake drake was on tour or some other shit and couldn't get to it in time
they started making it and he got in his feelings feelings when Drake finally sent the best shit he ever had back.
And he was like, oh, I want to be better, you know, doing one of those.
And he missed out on a great thing on his career, and now he's fucked up.
So that's on him.
And about the last Drake feature his ass was going to get, too. That's crazy.
Well, he said that it was because the song was complete without Drake, so he didn't need him on there first of all no song completely no no i know
but then he was like no but i let him go ahead and send me the verse but i told him at the end
that i was just like we didn't need him on there it was already done but that's what i'm that's
that's the lie that's that's what i'm saying he drake got the beat first he made it for drake
drake couldn't get to it at his time, on his time.
And then actually saw it and said,
oh, I'm gonna fuck with it and sent it to him.
Yeah, exactly. And still sent it, by the way.
And still sent it.
You sent me this, here you go. I got you.
And made it ten times better.
And then bro wanted to get in his feelings.
He was like, oh, I sent that to you like three months ago.
What the fuck?
The fuck was it? Oh, that's my dog yeah all right yeah my dog sounds like it's
we gotta take care of the dogs bro my dog is like 15 years old bro so she she she don't know
it's what she is um
Let's see
Who is
What's this
Deaf
Deafest Karma
Yes sir
What's good gang
I can't call it
Let's go ahead
You can start us off with a real hip hop conversation
At least to the
Jack and the listeners
I remember what you said I ain't gonna bring it up But you need to get your ass up here and talk real hip-hop conversation at least to the uh i see jack jack and the listeners he ducking smoke
nigga i know i remember what you said i'm gonna bring it up but you need to get your ass up here
and talk um also they my uk nigga my uk ut get up here july need to be up in here and inevitable
tag them but go ahead start us off with a hip-hop conversation that we always have that they think
Hip-hop conversation that we always have and I think we don't
Been listening to the lot much lately, but I will say that our Tyler creator album is trash is full
that new one that's
Let's let's say it look let's say it in the hip-hop terms that they love one. It's not a hip-hop album
It's like a dance album. Yeah, you try to recreate a honestly never mind in the worst possible way
No, no, no, I wasn't trying to cut you off so I was cut people off but uh
but um, it's just like it was like the worst mix of like
Jersey club beats and like but like with like terrible
roland 808 trap drums it was just such a weird production choice from him and the the the
conversation the way i want to frame this is almost like it's just funny how the people that
they claim to like with an exception of like some of these people that they talk about how like
them or clips or like tyler are supposed to be the people that are supposed to be creating this quote-unquote real hip-hop but one people never
support it like they claim they want it but then how many what did that what it closely even barely
saw 100k but it's like 50k really in reality and then on top of that like the the best example i
have of this is when drake dropped scary hours three is my is my perfect example for people
that always say oh we want drake to rap we want drake to scary hours three is my is my perfect example for people that always
say oh we want drake to rap we want drake to he gave people the critics that like you know he gave
your paul uh whatever the fuck he's like rosenberg he gave exactly what you want out of drake six
tracks of just gold and then people didn't support it at all so it's like you guys claim you want
like you want one thing but the thing about dra Drake and artists that cater to what you actually want, that's why they sell well.
But you guys don't want what you say you really want is my point, I think.
And it's going to be hard to do this throughout the night.
And I'm going to do it too, so I'm not saying that nobody's doing that wrong.
But just to appease, you know, whatever, just to show him.
Like, we can have this hip-hop conversation and not even bring the boy back up.
Well, we're going to bring him.
He's going to come up.
He is hip-hop.
He's the reason.
I get what you're saying.
Yeah, I can't not bring him up.
But I'm saying, yeah, we ain't going to.
I got you.
I got you.
He's coming to reference.
That's all I'm saying.
It's like, because Tyler's album, and like I said, I started off doing it.
So that's why I'm not judging you.
I literally but we know what he tried to do.
Like it was it was definitely Drake coded.
But the album was just not good.
And then you can't come to that.
You can't bring that album out and everybody's saying, oh, Tyler's dropping blah, blah, blah.
And after you just said, oh, real hip hop is back.
And then he don't drop a hip hop album.
Like make that make sense. And then Tyler, you know what, oh, real hip hop is back. And then he don't drop a hip hop album. Like, make that make sense.
And then, Tyler, you know what you doing, bro.
Like, you have literally, how can I say?
You have gotten so creative that it's bad now.
Like, you don't care about the, you got so creative that you don't care about the creation no more.
You're using your plout.
He's creative.
Here's how I put it. He's creative for the sake of being creative. Like, not for the sake of it being good art like you know what i'm saying i think the
reason why people don't find success when they try to be like over like avant-garde and like
creative like that is that in the middle of you trying to make a concept you're like he basically
just thought like i'm gonna make a dance album he didn't think i want to make a good dance album and that's the difference between
like you know people that set out to make a sort of type of vision and succeed i'm not saying that's
impossible you know but you have to care about you have a high quality standard i think that's
the problem with a lot of these people they don't have a good bar for quality see that's why i'm
gonna disagree right there i think he is talented. I like Call Me If You Get Lost.
I thought Chromacopia was good,
but I didn't think it was better than
Call Me If You Get Lost.
But this album, it felt like
it was just a song
slipped on the cutting room floor.
I think you might have misheard us.
We're literally saying that
we're saying that Tyler
is creative. I love Call Me If You Get Lost, too. That's a great point that you're saying we're saying that tyler is creative like i love um yeah i love
call me if you get lost too that's a great point that you're bringing up yeah no no what's the uh
i love igor i said i think that he went from his weird phase where i probably was his best phase
for him and then he started getting super creative and he got to the igor phase where it's like all
he's perfected being himself but also being creative and then he went a little bit too far to the point where it stopped being creative and start being goofy
Yeah
I didn't really listen to Igor because that nigga was a little too weird for me at that time. But yeah, I get what you say
Yeah, it's like it's like when a nigga the evolution of you know artists like they can evolve
To their peak and then some of them over evolve like you're doing too much and that's what this new shit was
It was like bro. It's and I I'm sorry. There's no Sam Hayden. I blame this that Kendrick
I blame Kendrick that GNX shit was literally him
Doing something that he's not comfortable with doing something that's not his style doing something that don't sound like
Genuinely Kendrick, but he was just doing with like, oh, I'm so popular now
I've put myself in the forefront that I can do whatever and it's just quirky and that's what Tyler was doing
He was doing quirky shit like if a new artist would have did that fucking tap don't tap on the glass shit
We would have said that shit was super trashed, but because Tyler has a has a standard like oh that's Tyler
So it's cool when he does he's doing something different, but if he has no different and that's just him its ass
He's doing something different, but if he has no different and that's just him it's ass
And here's
No, I'm just saying it like I just think like that
It's not that I that like he doesn't have a good quality like in general
It's that he has a quality that people are used to from him
But this album just didn't meet that bar
But he's using almost like jay said like the
pre-qualification of him having like clout or there's just being clout around like his general
style of music in general to basically like just excuse putting on a trash album and then blaming
the poor response on whatever like oh the beef or whatever or oh i have a clips feature clips
was in the video or what but like he's didn't try like him
It got gimmicky and it's like it's like uh
Tyler's last album and gnx suffer from this to me and it's whatever like I said
It's gonna say what they gonna say, but I'm really speaking facts
It sounds like weird Al Yankovic did Kendrick or weird
It sounded like bro, it's not like it was a parody of what they were trying to do like it was weird I
Think
Yeah, I think I was just trying to flood the market
That's my thing like they
There was a thing to beat Drake so they just started they were told to like release
Music like Drake, but they can't they can't have they don't have that same work ethic
So they just I believe some of them songs they were like
Like in uh, don't touch the glass. I believe that's just all like b-side shit or whatever and they just do it together
That's actually a really good point
I think GNX also also like kind of keep
tying these two together gnx is another example of that because like i don't know if people
how familiar people are with like this concept but like when you're a bigger artist like that
if they have like a style of song or like say for example kendrick was trying to make like tv off or
whatever he might make a few records that sound like that to make sure that he's getting the best one for that particular
sound but gnx sounds like an album full of of songs like trying to be another tv off or another
like now i got something it's just so like i said we could we could talk about that that's literally
what happened my guy so what happened was we remember that kendrick was supposed to drop an
album may 2024 like right during the beef and it was ready and it was talking about it blah blah blah
But it was more mr
Morale part two, but then he got fucking a billion gazillion fans off of not like us
So they had to scrap that and he had to make an album full of not like us
That's exactly what I was gonna say it was it was that he got so much clout off of not like us that he was almost put back into a corner by his new
fans because he doesn't have like he basically here's his options okay i have this group smaller
group of older fans that they're gonna ride with me no matter what they already listened to all
this bullshit i said during the beef anyway so So I can drop an album of West Coast nonsense
and they're gonna just hype me up
like it's Good Kid Matt. Fuck
Mr. Morale Part 2. They're gonna
slob that shit up like it's Good Kid Matt City Part 2.
I mean, but they
not though. We still gotta
buy it and we gotta push it because they not
really, like we ain't talked about it since it came
out. Well, no, no, no. Here's, here's,
okay, let me clarify.
On the, on the, his stands, his stands are going to,
literally no matter what he puts out,
are going to, are going to flood the narrative
that it's supported by Kendrick fans in general.
One.
But two, he's going to be able to hide that there's not real support from it
with a bots and be the new influx of fans so that's my
my major point was that he knows he has to cater to this new group of fans if he wants it to not
all entirely just are it just bots period that's what i wasn't going to get i'm not going against
your point you're right i'm just saying neither one worked like i think he's cooked i think the
only thing that i i that's that's what i'm getting to cooked i think the only thing that i i that's
that's what i'm getting to i i think i i my point was essentially that it didn't work and he's backed
himself into a corner now where his next project i think he doesn't have a fucking clue what he's
gonna do because he's fucked no matter what he does because no matter what it's not gonna he's
he's peaked basically he's not used to having peaked but he's peaked, basically. He's not used to having peaked, but he's peaked, and there's no possible way he can ever get back to his peak
because he got there in the most gimmicky way possible
is my overall point, essentially.
Yeah, fine.
Like I said, he tried both ways.
If he just exposed himself as those monthly listeners
and everything we use at, like, 35, 40,
that's you, gang gang and ain't bad
That's fire nigga. You still at the top like of most artists, but don't be something you're not that's my issue with them
So it's like he tried like didn't not like us
We know everything was by GNX got body and then niggas ain't talking about GNX no more
So that didn't work either the West Coast shit didn't work that nothing
But then we even know he tried to he tried to tried to re-drop that album from May when he dropped Watch the Party Die.
That was a whole thing.
Yeah, you're cooking.
And 616 in LA was on that too, by the way.
Let's not be easy.
Yeah.
A throwaway.
That might have been an even older throwaway.
But yeah.
Here's the thing about him.
He's realizing now.
Here's his problem, his major problem.
He's won.
GNX has died down so fast that he's backed himself into a situation where he doesn't have the capability to churn out another album this fast.
But because GNX was so gimmicky, it's going to fall out of the...
Like, as soon as he's done with this tour, if he just shuts the fuck up like he normally does he's super fucked he's ruined his ability to take half a decade off and and say nothing because this
album's bro bro said i'm cooking and turned my stove off like what go ahead uh let's let's get
everybody else talking uh let's see let's see vision what's good, gang?
Are you talking to me?
The only vision I know, gang gang.
What's up, boys?
They have a saying that say while the
truth is putting its shoes on,
the lie gets halfway around the world.
And that's the problem with all these people
like Tyler and Kendrick and them,
is that they don't really move with the truth.
And so they're trying to speed up their success,
speed up whatever their narrative they're trying to do.
And they do it with bots and they do it with the label.
So they have no genuine connection with their fans like Drake does.
Drake, he knows he can sit for a year on his ass and let them empty the clip and do their
campaigns and try to shape the narrative.
Because at the end of the day, it's not real.
It's going to all fall down.
And as you were saying before, even the music they're making is not real.
Real hip-hop.
Look at the shit they made.
Like Tyler, with all due respect respect Tyler and Kendrick and all
them they're good artists they can make good songs but a lot of their stuff is trash to be honest with
you it's not really lyrical it doesn't really mean anything and as someone said earlier it's just
you're trying to be creative for the sake of being creative or different for the sake of being
different doesn't actually have a real reason behind it and you're looking at all this stuff that's happened I think RJ C just said
it when he just made the great point because
after this whole cycle of advertising is done
Kendrick's finished in a way he's already finished because all the
narratives that they were trying to hold back this last year and they were
trying to pretty much flood the market with so much crap that we couldn't hear
the truth
but now it's coming out they're not going to be able to rebut all this shit and they were trying to pretty much flood the market with so much crap that we couldn't hear the truth.
But now it's coming out.
They're not going to be able to rebut all this shit.
It's all this stuff like now we're going to see the court case with Kojo.
Hopefully they get him to do discovery and all those issues.
And you're going to see that people are going to start championing Drake. And you're going to see all these podcasters and all these idiots,
reactors that were like oh my god we were
wrong all along just the same people as
they knew for example I keep bringing
COVID up it's just it could be whatever
you want you see suddenly
the person that was on the left is now on the right
and the guy on the right is suddenly on the left
and then you're going to see oh okay
I can't trust anything that's coming out
like I said it's already
it has already started to the point where I knew it when Ray Daniels
Hates Drake. He says his beef started. Oh, yeah, bitch. He blah blah blah. He can't
And a white man say hey
Drake is gonna change the game and make it beneficial for all of you guys. Oh, damn
We need more white people around. Oh my god. This is amazing. How could you believe I'm like, bro?
This nigga is so weird, but it's not it's not just him all the pockets I get oh, yeah
Either they if they stopped but they can't stop talking about Drake
But now they have to talk about them right now. They they're coming back to the middle like oh, man
I mean, it's up in the area or drink doing this thing now. I can't look
Yeah, they're setting themselves up if for if it breaks either way
They're setting themselves up for like oh cuz because here's the thing with these media people they're just concerned about their next bag bro
they don't really give a fuck about truth or journalism or anything that that's so beyond
dead in in media today especially so they're just like how can i position myself to get clicks and
be able to have an opinion that's like 0.5 percent plausibly deniable like could be a real opinion i
have about whatever drake's doing next
so drake's not only has kendrick fucked himself but then kendrick's put drake in a position
back where he can be the quote-unquote like underdog in a scenario and people love to root
for the underdog in whatever battle or whatever's going on because normally drake's been sitting up
top the game for the past decade and a half and and people get tired of that quick. But now Drake's in a position where he can be hungry.
He has a place to draw from for his next album.
And I think it's a win-win-win.
Well, it's really like a lose win-win-win for Drake, in my opinion.
Yeah, that's it.
He literally, the one thing I always said, as much as I hate everything that that happened i saw how they were doing shit since
the start the one positive i brought out of that initial situation is bro y'all made my nigga
hungry again bro this is like this is a win for drake fans bro we about that bro he about to cook
for the next couple years nigga y'all fucked up like he has a vendetta he has a chip on his shoulder
now like he ain't i mean chip on his shoulder now. Wow.
I mean, what they were saying on YouTube and stuff was doing their streams
and everything.
The allegations they made up
was absolutely disgusting.
They were saying he was messing
with dogs and all kinds of shit.
And now they're switching up.
Oh, we never said anything about Drake.
Yeah. You know what the funny thing is? You just said they made so many stupid innuendos and disgusting allegations.
And while the beef was hot and people didn't care about the truth, those stuff was really like amped up now.
But like a year later, if you see someone talking about Drake being a PDF, everyone just laughs at that person.
Like you're still talking about this nonsense.
Are you an idiot?
And this is where their plan backfired.
They didn't know that we exist. They didn't know the real Drake fans that know the truth is going to stick bomb and go crazy and then prove all y'all wrong and then hold out long enough to make sure we win and we up.
So now the issue is going to be,
y'all can check me if I'm wrong.
There is nobody and nothing nobody can ever say about Drake again.
You can't diss the nigga no more.
You already called him a PDF.
You already said he fucked dogs.
You already said he tried to do something.
Like y'all went too far.
Now there's literally no narrative you can run about the nigga.
All those old narratives are dead as well, Jay.
When they talk about him being, you know, ghostwriter.
All that stuff is dead now.
They fucked it all.
They fucked it.
They spammed it.
They spammed all that.
You know what it is?
They didn't have enough.
They didn't have any bots to spam it, but they didn't count on people like me, you, and everybody else in this chat saying,
fuck these guys.
I'm not letting them fuck over the culture or Drakeke or whatever i'm coming on here and i'm gonna
fuck all these bots that's what they do with me look at my look at my
i've been a member since 2009 i barely fucking posted with the last few years
now i'm posting consistently just to fuck these cunts up to us
well that's my point though right is like the reason why they didn't think
that that we existed is because pre this whole beef we never really had to
like go explain being
a drake fan because drake's just the like goat like he was just on top of running shit so it's
just kind of like you're not in comment sections like defending drake because he's just not doing
dumb like but then this is the first time we're like yeah exactly yeah that's a great point too
i'm not out here i don't hate any like pre this beef i've never had like oh i hate this artist
so much i'm gonna go like shit talk to them in a comment like i just found that bizarre but now
like kendrick fans have just really blown that shit so far out of proportion i will never let
that go but but beyond that it's like we've all been forced to essentially be like okay no no this
has gone so far beyond what's like acceptable i'm not just gonna let you call him a pdf or say he's
fucking like what is this weird shit but like jay said they're done you know now you can't what are you gonna
say well even if you had something real well what could you possibly say that's and that anybody
will a take you serious or b that's even close to as bad as what you've alleged and then found
not to be lying about it's just like you you lost you ruined your chance go cry about it somewhere
it's up and it's stuck.
All they got to do is cry.
Like I said, I was telling Dirt earlier where he put out
the facts about
Drake has been telling the truth and it's more
to come from diss records that they didn't
want to listen to.
I'm like, bro, that's all they got
is, nah-uh, that's all they got.
That's literally the only response.
Nah-uh, nah,uh. That's all it got. That's literally the only response. Nah-uh.
Nah, Drake ain't really do that.
Exactly. You ain't got nothing else. It's nothing
else but you to rebut.
Besides, oh no, that ain't true.
And then he come out and he co-sign it
and you're like, oh, that's corny.
Like, nigga, shut the fuck up. It's over,
bruh. It is over.
Let's talk about all these damn crackheads that was on them features in G&X
Let's not talk about it because I don't know their name
That's what I'm saying
Remember that album, bro
Still listen to sexy songs for you
Even the ops be like, it's alright when I'm around my girl
Ain't nobody dances to G&X no more
I don't know their names, but I know two of them are one of them
No, actually two of them are homeless and both of them lost their car like pretty much in the past seven or eight months
And and pimi just became a superstar. So yeah
Paid off of gnx i'm just like he really doesn't fuck with y'all. He said pretty much fuck y'all i'm out
Exactly so the bots don't matter He really doesn't fuck with y'all. He said pretty much fuck y'all, I'm out. Exactly.
So the bots don't matter, bro.
That's what I'm saying.
I promise.
I don't care what y'all try to say or give, Shorty.
I promise you, if we put Pimmy and, what's the other girl's name?
Dolce up for a stadium concert right now.
I promise Pimmy is going gonna sell more i guarantee off one song not a
grammy not a whole album of flops not a whole album where nobody knows any song from that
except the one they remixed from the fucking most one of the most famous songs ever like
like we saw what you're trying to do we saw the play. And it didn't work. She out there in the festival saying, hey, sing my most famous song.
And niggas are like, I don't know that shit.
Niggas don't even know.
Like, bro, don't nobody know her music.
Well, and not just that.
They decided to get their shit off with Spotify and be like, oh, well, she's the first female rapper that reached 50 million followers.
And look at her now. She's like a 30 something
Name a
Name a
Name somebody please name me a douchy rap song
They already said that anxiety ain't a rap song. So what the fuck are we even talking about?
Nothing Aint a rap song. So what the fuck are we even talking about? That album is mean. That album is fucking mean, man.
I wouldn't even heard that, bro.
Like, that's being nice. I listened to it.
We listened to it in this bitch on her space because I was trying to be funny, but we went through it.
That shit ain't nothing.
She got a Cardi.
She literally has a grifting album.
She's like, she got a song where she sound like Playboy Cardi.
She got a song where she's trying to rap likei. She got a song where she's trying to rap
like Nicki. She got a fucking Mariah Carey
track. She got a
Lauren Hill track.
Most of the albums she's kind of sounded like
She ain't even found
her identity yet.
Most of the albums she sounded like Doja
Cat to me. Like too much.
No, no, no. She's definitely Doja Cat
for sure. do you know what
the funny thing is you're talking about all this stuff if you go back to before drake actually
started like coming up hip-hop was also like in the same state there weren't that many artists
breaking through anymore interscope had just choke hold the whole game with like g unit and
m&m and everything and kan and stuff, they made their thing
but there wasn't like an influx of artists
and then as soon as Drake comes on, he's featuring
with Meek Mill, J. Cole
all these guys that earn their career
off Drake, like if Drake
doesn't exist, hip-hop is not going to exist, I'll just be
frank, because none of them are good enough to
make that many songs and collaborate
that well and get
so many different sounds to work
it just doesn't happen bro you can you can yeah you can be frank tom sam andy you can be whoever
the fuck you want to i you're 100 telling the truth them niggas bro i remember hip-hop i gave
up on hip-hop that's why i'm such an r&b guy. That snap music came in because niggas didn't know what to do no more
We had 50 we had we had a TI we had Jeezy
We had a couple niggas and everybody else was buns the underground real rap
Wasn't making good enough songs to pop through and then the only thing niggas wanted to listen to was
Yep, am I right?
And I was like bro, I was like, yeah, this shit dead dead and then
Drake and her came in with a blog era with Big Sean B.O.B. I give all this credit, but they was mixtape rappers
but because of so far gone that made it okay for
Independent artists to actually sell records along with you know, just as much as the labels the labels snatched everybody
up and then they tried to make that over again but them niggas still wasn't popping mainstream
until they did a song with drake matter of fact kendrick only got his deal because they said hey
go make us go make an album like drake and then until you do that you can't get a sign he literally
went pissed because he's like oh the new guy's. You have to sound like this in order to make a song.
And he literally had to make Good Kid Mad City in the style of Drake to get on.
If Drake didn't put Kendrick on, he would have just been Talib Kweli.
Exactly.
Most Def, Talib Kweli, all them niggas, bro.
But what they want to do is they want to misrepresent what the fuck we say.
It's like, bro, it's a difference between being talented and then being successful.
We ain't saying that niggas ain't talented, bro.
I've never said all these niggas that I be talking about don't, can't rap.
But it's a crack here around the corner that can rap.
The fuck does that mean in the industry, nigga?
If that's the case, make your music for you, nigga, and stay on that level.
If you want to be in this industry, you have to make good music that the majority wants to hear.
Because guess what?
Numbers matter.
It's the only thing that matters.
Because music is subjective.
And I can like what you, me and you can like the exact same song for different reasons
So that ain't a judge of what's quality. They always want to say what's quality. Nigga. Give me a metric on quality
I mean
There's plenty of untalented
Go to Metacritic
Build a bare ass bitches
That like are not talented that are out here in the rap game that are not doing shit either
Like just because you're successful for a minute doesn't mean that like that are not talented that are out here in the rap game that are not doing shit either.
Like, just because you're successful for a minute
doesn't mean that, like, you're
talented at all.
Ironically, if you actually look at all the
people who react and review
a lot of the hip-hop, not just hip-hop, but
in general, reacting and reviewing, they're
all artists that could never make it,
or just didn't make it, or whatever, and now
they got their platform by talking about other artists that's it's so funny and like what what members said
that's why i will always agree with them num when you say numbers don't matter in a vacuum
it's numbers and consistency that's what matters no i can obviously we saw not like us i can pay for
a billion bucks to get my shit off the off the like out of control have a billion views so that
number don't matter but you made a one hit do that shit again and that's what drake been talking
about these niggas always want us oh where he made hits no he been making hits for 20 years
what the fuck do you, what other kind of
shit do you need? Who else can do that?
Well, and their gotcha
moment is that, oh,
he can only get number two now.
I'm like, you act like that's a problem.
Didn't the clips go on a whole
fucking month, two month run
of whining and bitching
on fucking podcasts just to hit
top 40 or some shit.
My nigga, Drake, Drake has, what, almost, I forgot the number, like, 500 songs,
that at least we can count as whatever. Do he have 500 number ones? All right, shut the fuck up.
He got the most, he got the, he got, he's tied for the most number ones. He has the most number twos.
He has the most number threes.
And he has the most, he has the most Billboard 100 songs, period.
So what the fuck are we talking about?
What's funny is that he's got all that.
He's got all that dropping for the love of the music.
Imagine if he tried to do like fake promo or he tried to do bundles and shit.
He would have like 61 number ones. Bro, what that's that's exactly they want to take the context out of this
shit like bro literally ain't been ducking and dodging his label after since after views trying
to make it a real artist friendly thing and y'all try to this these niggas the clip so fucking call
you know who calls this one of the most famous artists of like all time at this point?
And they sold that and sold more Cause merch than they did albums.
And they celebrating that.
Get the fuck out of here, my nigga, bro.
Wait, did the people ever get their merch?
They're gonna have a Clips album when they're 70.
Just to distract.
They got you.
What else can they do?
Like, all this shit, the industry is done for, bro.
This shit is over with.
Y'all niggas are literally, this real hip-hop movement is going to be the death of hip-hop.
I guarantee it.
If you actually love hip-hop, you should probably be behind Drake, because I think without Drake, it's going to go to another genre.
People forget that, like, when I grew up, you know, at the end of the 90s and stuff,
the most popular genre changed almost every other year. It was pop, Britney Spears, and
then it became Latin, Ricky Martin, Jello. It didn't last 20 years.
And punk rock had a run. I literally did the numbers, or I made the post of the actual
numbers. I didn't do the numbers because they're there. Hip-hop just took over
as the most, the number one
genre in 2016.
It's never been that
before. Until
2016. And now
it's losing, it's slowly losing grip based
off 2024. You niggas are
literally killing hip-hop because
you, I don't even know why.
Because Drake isn't conscious
enough for them okay he's not woke enough he's not talking about the issues that don't affect him
that's that's bullshit though you talk about everything the nigga talk about issues he
he literally started off as a conscious rapper like so i don't even know what niggas want no
more they literally just don't like his longevity they're like this not fair that in matter of fact it ain't
you know what it ain't even them because the the media heads they get paid to do to say whatever
the fuck they say so they're gonna run the narrative that gonna benefit them the rappers
just want to be successful so when drick was making them successful then cool i'm down with
that but when lucian come through and say hey we're gonna get this nigga out of here and i'm gonna make you out successful on your own they down with that
the problem is the industry and it goes back to this ai shit you really really really really
want to talk about what's going on it's really with this ai shit bro them niggas really they
don't want like y'all think it's a coincidence that nobody has longevity anymore? That they clip everybody after about three, four years.
Then it's a new nigga that come in.
No, they don't want this legacy act no more.
Because legacy acts are expensive.
But guess what?
Because they also don't have any control over the legacy acts.
If we can buy all your catalogs and then make an AI nigga just recreate that
and then get all the profit
from it we don't need you no more that's all they're trying to do so all of these manufactured
these one and gones these these artists you're like bro that's microwave that microwave music
the art the the industry created that microwave because they wanted to not have to have a legacy act So the couple legacy acts that started to bubble what they do X they killed them juice
They killed them pop they killed them like we know what they do when the niggas just oh you might be around too long
Let me clip you
Shit wicked and it's actually a very credit to Drake that he played the game so well
Right that he used the whole industry against themselves while never selling himself out.
Do you know what I mean?
He got that $400 million, but he didn't sell himself out like Kendrick for $30 million.
that his uh you know it's like followers and stuff you see a lot of these instagram guys if they're
He's still such a figure that his, you know, it's like followers and stuff. You see a lot of these Instagram guys.
on for a long time you can just see oh one day one year he's got 10 000 next year he's got 100 000
the year he's got a million and these legacy acts they start to you know cost a lot of money
so that's why they want to cut him down you can't be this star for so long
you see you see what the acts around them are doing like i said it's not a coincidence that
the 20 v1 started off
hating this nigga wanting to die and then all of a sudden they don't know nothing and it's cool and
it wasn't they they all backpedaling not to mention um what's the name um oh yeah j cole
like he jumped in the beef saw what the fuck it was apologized got out of it and now he done sold dreamville the nigga see what's coming bro he dipping out this bitch like he like nah do you
think about the play crazy and i ain't even i ain't got like he really thought he was about to
take drake out but he was like let me get up off that but you know let me just you know disappear
blah blah drake ain't drake ain't die drake i still got your back we still with you uh let me
sell dreamville uh let me get about this industry.
He didn't sell Dreamville. Don't start that rumor.
You know, the funny thing is hip hop and all the people that follow the culture, supposedly,
they're always been asking for someone to come forward to basically, you know,
fix the system or save them or whatever.
And the irony is if you look at Drake's career he's almost like being
a genius from the beginning of like if I'm gonna save my culture or my people and my you know
language and my music I'm gonna have to play this part I'm gonna have to do this thing I'm gonna
have to bring it this way but because he's done it in a way where it's not overt like Kendrick he
actually is like wearing a fucking Jesus thorns on his head trying to say yeah I'm the prophet
I'm the Christ. Whereas he's the
antichrist. Whereas Drake's played a very
like the long game.
People like Cole and stuff, they can't do what
Drake's got. They have to get out of the way
because they will get crushed. It's only someone like
Drake can really, with his
intelligence, his team, can really
go against these guys.
So, for those that misunderstand Go against these guys I'm so the truth
What happened with Greenville essentially they didn't sell it they would never sell it so
They ended their dreamville partnership with UMG and then they did some other stuff on the back end of that but not with you
Okay, that's coming from people who
are part of dreamville so i don't know what to tell you i mean i'm saying you didn't you didn't
tell us nothing and i didn't say that they took his ip i'm saying that he got jid boss all them
said he got enough money to pay the whole team they didn't just give him money for just leaving
so what did he say he gave up something they didn't sell I don't know
what to tell you that's Ibrahim that's like you know all right cool cool they well they just left
the label and then got a whole bunch of money from the label for leaving and then he got to
pay his whole team that makes so much sense what we talking about what did he do I'm not saying so cool all right um let's see see what um anything i vision you have something
i'm gonna finish up
or um that what can i call you deaf's deaf karma? Oh, I just get back.
You can call me Def.
Def.
Like I said, we can go ahead and move it.
Well, we're already on Dreamville.
So since we're having hip-hop conversations,
I made a post that kind of made some people mad,
some people understood it, depending on where you were.
But, you know, the J. you know JID album just came out and
I think
That nigga is one of the best lyricists. I've ever heard
And that's a fact I know about it. The nigga really really raps, but I made a comment saying that hey, bro
I can see bro being a star. I've always liked him
He just needs some songwriting ability, and he ain't got there yet.
And it has crucified me for saying, are you fucking AJ?
I love J.I.D.
I don't give him a critique.
He ain't got to do it.
He's still a star.
Niggas know him.
But I'm just giving my opinion.
The nigga can rap better than a lot of niggas.
So why not put more tools on your tool belt?
What do y'all think?
Well, first, how did y'all like the album, Def?
For me, I didn't listen to the album yet.
So, I don't have an opinion on it.
But I plan to because, you know, I fuck with J.I.D. anyway.
Absolutely.
Vision? But I plan to because, you know, I fuck with J.I.D. anyway. Absolutely. Vision.
All right.
He's listening.
Took him down.
I think I'm a nigga.
All right.
Well, I guess since we get into the topic, let me let me see.
There's a couple of them that stood out to me.
So let me play one at least.
And then we'll talk about it.
So we can get in that vibe and really give a conversation.
Hunter's in the chat.
Hunter's in the chat.
Make sure you share the space.
Share the space.
Share the space.
Shit, I forgot to unmute the other one.
Hold up.
What up, Jakar? Gang Gang? the other one but what uh uh jacar gang gang
i can't call it what you been up to gang
none man just enjoying life man you say enjoying what I'm enjoying life I can't complain
in my I'm like this stuff man say less don't take don't have to take life too
seriously because it can be over tomorrow let's get it Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Straight in the back, two in the front, one in my lap, two in the trunk, one in the
back, two in the trunk, one in the trunk, one in the trunk, one in the trunk, one in
the trunk, one in the trunk, one in the trunk, one in the trunk, one in the trunk, one in
the trunk, one in the trunk, one in the trunk, one in the trunk, one in the trunk, one in
the trunk, one in the trunk, one in the trunk, one in the trunk, one in the trunk, one in the trunk, one in the trunk, one in the trunk, one in the trunk, one in the trunk Who got in the cake? I got the cake Crawl with a blow dead
Lil' J got ball
Yeah
Lil' dog with a bite in the bark
A nice heart niggas abusing
Turned to dark
A night heart
Looking for food
And look at the booty
Nice off
Maybe the bougie bitch
Look good with the lights off
He bust real dope moves
One dope white
Two loose grew
Three bad black
Lil' niggas said fuck
Fuck them fuck you
Fuck dudes up
Tough dudes get touched too
Ash to ash and dust to dust
You best to bust a rusty
Trusty dusty
If you bust you Pull in that well He got his heat in his hooligans there who brought the beef and the food
for the bear who got that fever the heater can shoot in the air yeah yeah yeah yeah oh yeah
bitch bitch up on the east side you can see the street sign never seen the peace sign hey yo
said he finna respawn shooting out a nissan put that but a sleep night yeah yeah nigga fucks well they be jogging the
player little glock nine let it pop in the air and then the turtle robbie yeah when he caught a
shell better say a prayer when he walking in jail he said he walking like he talking then he walking
it well he said he bought a sucker shank and he ain't tucking his tail he trained well well trained
going off of the rails same thing game man he's not for a bill. Three in the back, two in the front. What am I allowed? Two in the truck.
Who got the cake?
I got the cake.
I got the cake.
I got the cake.
I got the cake.
Yeah.
Better running in 99 sites.
I'm from B-Lilow, nigga.
I'm from B-K.
Working out here with that cake.
This is Kelly.
I done made out the head, nigga.
Madder, I got that cake.
I'm gone, bitch.
Yeah.
I'm from the East.
Look at the streets. Look at the peace. Yeah. He was in the Nissan. Never, I'm gone. I'm from the East. Look at this grease. Lookin' for peace.
He was in the Nissan.
Never put the heat down.
Give the niggas D down.
Bitch comin' in the night like a thief in the sleep time.
He'll be on Crete now.
Hey, yo.
Teddy from the beast now.
Hey, yo.
They done let the beast die.
Hey, yo.
Hey, yo.
Fly God, those like ugly nigga.
Fly God.
My bitch ugly nigga.
My bitch ugly nigga.
My bitch ugly nigga. My bitch ugly nigga. My
I get my critique once we done I'm playing like my favorite tracks off this album Which means I like them Move up police, three riders. living check the check nigga check the mail another bill my brother ain't even get no bill on his third strike and if he served life to practice probably like that served your right
shit too real just gave me chill the devil's outside angels is in the infield instigating
a riot and aiming it at your windshield it ain't right nigga what you gonna fight and you gonna
sit still i'm saying like we share the same practice while we in here, they took the scale, if there's a way, then there's a well, using words, doing work, moving weights like Adele, far cry from buzz and cereal boxes on the shelves, nah, all the S-Car gonna play this so fucking schnell, and my shit down behind the microphone, comparison pill, it's been a long time coming, I swear, but let's be clear. Niggas know I've been killing this shit for years.
It took a fucking ceiling challenge to show them above my peers.
These tears. Pretty sunny skies And I will look back and smile
Cause it's just a moment in time
It's just a moment in time
And trouble could stay for a while Last one, last one we can talk about. Like I said said feel for the way i feel i think bro is one of the best
lyricists of our tom he not i don't think the songs are put together like they need to be man
discombobulated but i still think it's fire judging by a rap he come yeah one of the best rap out of the year
People all around the world know your songs
So this is for the dollars the casuals alike that press play soon as the clock strikes me at night
Hit up all my posts with the comments and likes first on the site trying to cop the merchandise
The damn near recite every single verse I write a ball tick to see me on the stage with the mic and tell me after the show how my
song change your life it's your energy that's keeping on the lights i was down bad scribbling
my life in a pad they said go get a real job put down the mic it's a fad but nah none look
was headstrong and so i kept on was skewed by the
fact that i was slept on wanted to prove the niggas they were dead wrong i want to take it
take it on to the next song told my mama i make it she like i hope you're right worked up the
courage to hit up the local open mics me and these raps got the bond so tight, I'm back the next week. Even if I bomb that knife, it's like, for real life.
Look at Domino's writing rhymes on the back of a timesheet.
Bosses with grind teeth and me falling behind,
trying to scroll through my mind to find beats.
All I needed was a tempo to latch onto,
till I could find the instrumental that matched.
This back when producers wasn't sending me packs
I dropped some shit on SoundCloud and people didn't react
I'd be happy just to get 10 clicks on the track
Nigga, got damage bringing memories back
When my heart was short, the art was pure
I'm talking back when we was packing out department store
But of course
Bruh
And I hear the patchy music growing with pad lounge Let the bouncer know I'm performing doing pat downs But of course I can show you a perfect example of a nigga with excellent
lyricism that at least on this album, the songwriting was also in order.
You know, you know.
And you know this nigga, Lupe, can talk about her head.
So, if he can mix lyricism and songwriting. I know what you might think. We just talking talkin' over niggas heads, just listen. Yeah, I heard me the vicious nigga. Make a song for the bitches nigga.
We don't care about the other nigga.
You'll sell more brackets if you're better.
And I'm mouthless, which means I'm soundless.
Now as far as the hearing, I found it.
It was as far as the distance from an earring to the groundless.
But the door knock is on the ear of a stewardess in the ear.
She fine and she flying, I feel him flying by.
Because my mind's on cloud nine and in the mine at the same time.
Pimsy the wings on the underground king
who's also Klingon
to infinity and beyond.
Something really stinks,
but I spinks like Leon.
Or lying in the desert.
I'm flying on Pegasus.
She flying on the pheasant.
Ride her other white powder.
Pick her other fire flower.
Spit her hot fire like
Dylan on Chappelle's skit. Yeah, smell it on my unicorn. Sn a other white powder, pick a other fire flower, spit a hot fire like Dylon or Chappelle's skit.
Yeah, smell it on my unicorns, snort the white horse, but toot my own horn.
Sleep you shedding too much light, Lou.
You're making them want to do right, Lou.
They're getting self-esteem, Lou.
These girls are trying to be queens, Lou.
They're trying to graduate from school, Lou.
They're starting to think that smart is cool, Lou. They're trying to get about the hood, Lou. I'll tell you what you should do.
I know, I know, but I gotta get up outta here, you know?
I gotta go pay these bills, I gotta show to do, you know?
One time, for your mom.
Let's go to sleep in Paris. Wake up in Tokyo.
Have a dream in New Orleans.
Fall in love in Chicago.
Man.
I love her.
And I hate her.
And I hate her. And I hate her. And I hate her.
And I hate her.
Longly.
Ring, ring.
Those iPhone.
It was my home.
It was my home.
It was my home. It was my home.
It was my home.
It was my home.
It was my home.
It was my home.
It was my home.
It was my home.
It was my home.
It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. It was my home. Goyard trunk, got ready to walk it out like Unk in my jam, and then Chuck's, that's when I heard murder.
You're killing me and filling me with sorrow, sunrise goodbyes and missing you tomorrow.
If y'all don't know about this album, I don't know about this, I don't know what to tell you. Get familiar.
Better than, I ain't gonna say, I ain't gonna mention another nigga name.
It's a lyricist. I don't know what the other name is. Not J'm cool. What's happening? It's here on me. No ghost. No 16-bit like Sega Genesis, RG ball on the board soundtrack on the track, Gemini on the jump, set the G on the G set, green for the green free killer, and I'm back on my thing for the listeners, see it?
Alright, I'm spamming shit now, I'm spamming shit now, don't leave me, don't leave me yet, I promise, I'm here with you, just say, I can stop talking.
Y'all, y'all just interrupt me, I'll let this out. I'm sorry. What the coolest thing? What the coolest thing? What the coolest thing?
What the coolest thing?
What the coolest thing?
What the coolest thing?
What the coolest thing?
What the coolest thing?
What the coolest thing?
What the coolest thing?
What the coolest thing?
What I love the law.
But sometimes it's like that. I love me mom. I love the peace and I love the wall
I love the season I love the shore no love but no beach baby
All right, Drekare you got some force? You ready to have a conversation game?
I know you are my biggest you my biggest opponent in this bitch. So we're gonna go crazy. Hey a gold-blooded come up here blue She's
One of the goats shit
He's where he what the other nigga here, and the lights are on, and they wanna show, oh, oh, oh, yeah.
Yeah, uh, a fresh, cool young Lou, trying to catch his microphone, check 2-1 to one so wanna believe my own height, but it's too
One true the world brought me to my knees. What if you brung you did you improve on the design?
Did you do something new what you name it on the guest list?
Who brung you you the more famous person you come through and the sexy lady next to you you come to and
Let's get to the talks. I'm'm sorry I love that fucking album what up
it's a great album
I gotta say
so yeah most of it I mean I agree with you
the album
was great
I thought it was an amazing album
rapping was phenomenal
I do kinda gotta disagree with you though, man. I think
that he puts his music together very well. Songs are very well put together. But I do
understand compared to certain artists, like the best, you know, is different.
best, you know,
is different.
You talking about G?
You talking about G?
Yeah, I think he definitely puts them together
well.
But, I mean, compared to
you know,
niggas like Drake, you know,
obviously, it's different.
And that's what I was trying to not do.
I don't put him next to Drake.
That's what I thought you were doing.
I mean, I feel like... I put him next to Cole. He course you can't do that. That's what I thought you were doing. I put him next to Cole.
He can't even make songs.
Cole can make songs.
I was listening to
the song you were just playing.
The last one you played
before you went to Lupe.
And Glory.
I mean, them just
are well put together. i don't know i okay i what is
your definition of to put together i guess like because that last one you played and glory like
like all of them really like are songs or if you're talking about songs like in terms of content and
stuff and then you know like i consider stuff that's not put together
really is stuff like really like music in itself like the the songs and the wordings
like going from one subject to another subject like that right there is like not well put together
songs i'm not seeing this this is what I'm saying.
I'm not saying that nothing he does is not well put together.
I don't want to get it confused with niggas that just put a beat on and then just rap to rap.
He's an elite artist.
Even the last one we talked about, I heard your reaction when you heard that sample come in for the chorus.
And he was like, oh, no, this shit.
I'm like, yeah, no, that part is amazing.
His rapping is amazing.
It's just not cohesive.
It just sounds like I rapped good, and then, hey, play this fucking sample for the chorus.
It don't sound like a complete song to me.
I don't know why.
It just don't sound like it go together.
I mean, they're talking about the same thing.
It's just not cohesive.
The nigga was playing before he went to Lupe.
The nigga told the whole story, like the whole fucking song from the beginning to the end and it all went together that's what i'm like that's a whole that's a complete song to me you know what
i'm saying and it's like songs that have no real meaning to me you know because You can't even say real structure
because that's you just creating your own
sound, really.
Own lane if it sounds good.
You can also have it like me
just talking like you talking about
the hook says something
and it got nothing to do with
the verse and the
verse ain't got nothing to do with the concept
of the whole fucking song.
That's just a trash song.
J.I.D. can never be trash.
To me, that's not trash.
It's just a difference.
A lot of rappers, we're just talking about rap.
Because usually it's rap that do that because most of the other songs have to kind of come together.
But when you're talking about rap, it does that a lot lot but it's just a lot of good words put together but it's not a concept or
you know what i'm saying but that still could be it still could be good like i love lyricism and
things that sound good and put together but i but somebody who can do that and said something
like put it together it's a storyline or it has a connection to it that's to me is elite
rapper and i feel like jid was kind of doing that he was doing that in in the album but if we're
comparing it that's different now for If we're comparing it to certain
people, that to me is different, but not a lot of people honestly can do even what J.I.D. did.
So yeah, that's my thoughts on that. I mean, you're right. I feel like you might be explaining
it even better than I can, because I feel like I'm trying to say
what you're saying. He does that.
And I don't even... But I don't know
the word I'm looking for or the
explanation I'm looking for.
I started off by saying
I'm a J.I.D. fan. I've been
one before this beef and all of that.
I've always said the nigga can rap. I like the
album. I'm just...
When I look at it like when
i look at any artist or when i hear something i'm like bro regardless if i like it or not i always
think of because i'm an artist what could take this to the next level because when i like somebody
like if i don't like you i don't give a fuck about you i ain't gonna listen to you so who gives a
fuck if you make it or you don't make it if i I like you, I'm like, bro, this nigga could be a mega star if he just figured this out.
And I'm like, I'm not a genius.
Everything I say ain't right.
So it's just like I'm trying to say it in the best words I can.
And it's hard not to compare to Drake, but I even don't like even if I move Drake, I'm like, bro, J.I.D. should be at Cole's level because I think he has just the same capability of rapping it's
not a little better sometimes then Cole but Cole just know how to write a song
that's what I'm trying to figure out in which way right
in like in the sequence yeah I'm trying to figure it out like compared to
This is a cohesive song like it sounds like it goes together It is all good. What J.I.D. did on that song you heard,
he found a fire-ass beat, fire chorus,
and he out-rapped the fucking beat.
Then he didn't stay on topic.
Because I think that you do that for this song,
but at the same time, I think that it kind of...
So play the song from the new J.I.D. work.
Play that song.
That song to me is a better song.
And even in the sense of you even playing that song right there,
I never really liked that song.
But when you play it, it is a fucking catchy-ass song, at least the hook.
And it's like, yeah, it's not bad rapping at all.
But I don't like that song.
And the song work from J.I.Did i could hear that song and listen if it
played on the radio like i hear it on the radio and i and i don't mind listening to it but i would
say i would say that the j cole workout song is just because it's been out there like it makes
sense on the radio to me a lot but i hate hate the radio songs. I guess that's the first one.
I don't think that J. Cole does it all the time.
I think J. Cole has the same issue where he will,
he will out wrap his production sometimes.
And it was like,
all right,
cool.
It's like,
they don't,
they always fit the bill,
but J. Cole does know how to do it.
Like J. Cole got hits hits.
So it's like,
but it's kind of crazy to say that though.
Because a lot, well, I can at least say from at least me and in the sense you too like you don't
like what it would be considered a radio song though and i think that people like us who never
really liked that is the reason why music is like the way it is now radio niggas don't give a fuck about radio no more it's because it's like
you trying to create a type of lane for a song house of sound when people want
to hear certain shit in a certain way or don't really give a fuck how it sound
if it's structured just like alright I just want to hear some good shit so you
got shit without bridges shit without fucking, and all that type of stuff now.
Which I always liked.
I always liked songs with no hooks, just rapping, or just going through it.
So, like I said, I ain't the biggest J. Cole fan, anyway.
ain't the biggest j cole fan anyway um but i picked him because he you know that's the closest thing
to jid that that would make sense and then of course i picked the top one because it's a complete
song but it is a radio song but i'm not trying to how can i how can i um i was just trying to say
like play so play the song work and it's like it because it reminded me just because even the
Wording so if you looked it up, it's like our algorithm
It would probably play some shit that to that even them being this artist and even if you played it
So I don't even sound like nothing
I like but if you play this side by side, it would actually go together and like a mix if he was playing it and fucking like
Or something it's like I got I got I got it. a fucking clip or something. I got something
for you. I got something.
Like I said, I just picked the first J. Cole, so I'm not a J. Cole
fan, so I can't. I don't know his catalog enough
to pick through it, but
I got a better
fucking fine song.
Nah, that's a good song in terms of
like, just a commercial.
Yeah, but it's so mainstream that
I'm not trying to say, I'm not saying
a hit, I'm not saying a radio song.
It ain't gotta be that. I'm trying to
say something, but that's just a complete song.
I was just doing that because it's a recent song
and it was based on being a single for
J.I.D. That's so much the reason
I said it. Like, he got shit that
probably sound a little bit more commercial,
but honestly, he don't got a lot of
commercial shit that sound like that, for real.
Yeah, so I wasn't trying to say commercial.
I just, like I said,
I shouldn't have picked J. Cole,
because I don't know his shit enough.
Nah, I mean, even the example
you gave, like, that's a good example
to me.
It's good.
Like, I don't know what you're talking about.
What were you saying? Nah, I was thinking of something.
You can go ahead and talk. What the fuck are you good you can talk
what we're saying we're talking about
oh like song structure yeah yeah yeah yeah okay okay okay yeah yeah yeah
i was just trying to yeah i was just trying to understand like how you was thinking about the type of songs you like and like how what is
considered like a good song not a good song and even based on like what the type of songs that
i that you like that i see that you kind of like you, a lot of the songs that you really like, they can't really do that type shit anyway.
I think that's, I guess that's why, that's my issue.
I think he can.
I think that he has the ability to.
If you can write like that, nigga, you can write.
I heard a song on the album, actually, that sound real fucking good, like on some shit.
heard a song on the album actually that sound real fucking good like on some shit like that
it's like it's got like three different tones of sound on it but it sound real good um
i can't remember i'm gonna listen to them i'll hear it again but yeah i mean i know he do but
i'm just saying in general like i mean i don't i don't know then because i i feel like he do but i'm just saying in general like i mean i don't i don't know then because i i feel like
he do when even when you said it i'm like i don't know man like i wouldn't have said that because
i was literally just listening to it and me i was saying damn like this thing is saying some
shit like that's what i'm so i guess i guess easier way to even make sense of it you said
you you heard it.
Everyone you hear, you're like, damn, he's snapping.
Oh, damn, he's going crazy.
Oh, that shit's kind of cold.
How much replay value do that got to you?
That's what I was saying.
I played it again and again.
Just so I could be like, okay, maybe I could listen to music differently.
I listen to it.
And I listen to it.
Obviously, the way I listen to it first i'm automatically
is listening to lyrics but i can't i can't help but to listen to like the song is playing and if
it's some good shit like i can't help to listen to it so that's gonna overdo it so i'm gonna be
listening to the song regardless and because i listen to it like that i can it's better because
i can listen to now the whole thing because I'm really paying attention to the lyrics. So then
if I really like the song,
which it was a couple sits on there I really like,
I played it again. And when I
played it again, I really can listen to
it and then I listen, like I listen to it both
ways. And no motherfucker
is playing like,
especially, um,
what was it? Especially, um, what was it, uh, especially, um, that Jonah had just brought up.
That joke, what was it fucking called?
Uh, anyway, but that's, yeah, but that song was, to me, it was well put together, bro.
It was, um, yeah, the song Glory, it was well put together, bro. He had the song Glory.
It was well put together.
It was very good lyricism.
It was storytelling with it the whole time.
Wordplay and everything was well put together.
Sounded good.
Yeah, it was different, too.
He's elite, obviously. But I just think that it was different, too. You know? You know, he's elite, obviously.
You know, but I just think that it was very well put together.
And to me, what that is is, like, storytelling.
Good word flow.
Sounds good.
Like, obviously, we know what he could do already.
So, you know.
Like I said, it could be me.
I'm okay with being wrong.
No, no.
Honestly, no.
I think that you're actually way more right than you're saying.
And I think it's because, like, most people, you're not separate.
Like, you're comparing at this point because you know it's an elite artist.
You have to now compare it to somebody who you think could be more elite which i think you're
comparing it to have to be to like drake because if you don't have an artist like drake can't
compare greatness like that people will say that that is the peak there which it could be
in terms of jid because that's very is to me it was very it was amazing but. But you got a nigga like Drake,
you got to be like, well, it's amazing,
but it's not that.
So you got to peak to reach that too.
But a lot of musicians can't do that with J.I.D.
Yeah, but I think that's where I lie at.
It's like, not lie, but like lay at.
Because I only have a certain amount of artists
that I would ever even speak her name into Drake's
Atmosphere and I think JID for for me in my head is one of those artists
So it's like I put him to a standard like like as much as I look like I love rap
I love lyrics, but I would never even say hey
Grizel didn't need to make better better songs because I don't see that peak for them
So I'm cool with what they do. I see J.I.D.
doing more and that's my
dilemma.
Okay. Yeah, yeah,
exactly. That's what I
was saying.
He has that.
But I say, based
on where he's supposed to been and
when people say he's supposed to been
or whatever, I think that
that album...
I look at stuff when people do stuff
and they already prove stuff.
They ain't got to really prove stuff. It's like, alright.
That's an amazing album
to add to his collection and his legacy.
But see,
this is where
I want that conversation with you then.
Because, like I said, as much as I like J.I.D.
And I like everything I hear from him, I don't know anything.
Like nothing ever stands out to me.
Like what you said, what are you comparing J.I.D. to?
If you're comparing him to himself, what's your favorite J.I.D. album?
What's your favorite J.I.D. song?
Name me seven J.I.D. songs that you love.
I'm saying I can't think of it after he does it.
I listen to it and I'm like, bro, this shit is amazing.
And then it's off in the air.
That's his issue.
I think that that's his issue because that's the type of rapper he is based on the rap he does and how we listen to music.
Because I feel the same way exactly when
you said it but i also the way like i think i have a respect i think my respect as a lyricist
and a rapper is a little bit more for him than you and even i that's not fair no i respect no
not even not even in no no no not even
not even in a bad sense
like even
like I'm talking about more
like I see how you're saying it
and even the way you're saying
how he even develops his songs
I think it's way more elite
to me than even you're saying
I still see
what you're saying
when it's like
alright
I still can't name seven songs
like I can't either
like and I really do
look highly of him in music
and stuff like that.
And that's why I brought up Lupe, because Lupe
has a classic album, and he's
an elite, super, better than J.I.D.
Lyricist. So, if I can name
a classic album from Lupe, but can't
name J.I.D.'s seven
songs, then what the fuck is happening with it?
Like, he's doing something ain't right.
And that's also what we did right there because if I say it right now,
I think that Lupe obviously has some classic albums
because it's been so long to where you can consider.
You have to say if Lupe's in that elite,
that he has to have elite classic songs.
I could say there's songs out there that's like J.I.D.
that people could be like, oh yeah, that's a classic or it's gonna be there but to me but that ain't but that
ain't how it worked with like lupe when the cool came out i bought it and that shit was a classic
since like when i started hearing it i listened to it every day it ain't something i'm looking
back to and like oh yeah that shit was actually i feel like there's songs out there right now
from j.i.d that's niggas is like the classic. I don't really have them, but the niggas is like,
yo, this song's a classic, and when he listens to it
a couple years from now, they're gonna say that.
It's just that J.I.D. ain't been out that long.
I'm saying that to say that
think J.I.D.
is a better rapper
than Lupe
to me, but
I don't think
like J.I.D.
ain't been out there long enough
to have no classics on Lupe.
And I'm saying it
and I'm not saying it like
oh, he's watching him.
Nah, I'm just saying that
over our time, if we're looking at artists
and we're looking at how people rap
because of Lupe, you have a nigga like J.I.D.
J.I.D. ain't gonna say that
Lupe is better, that he better than Lupe.
You shouldn't nigga and you bet not
because that's just the game and you're being humble
but me being the niggas outside in
that don't give a fuck and I could be
unbiased, like I could do that. I could be
unbiased. I don't have no reason to lie, especially with
not about being biased. You could like listen to the lyrics.
No, I'm listening to them lyrics.
The nigga is like Lupe times five.
It's because of Lupe.
Times five?
No, listen to how I'm saying it.
He Lupe, because of Lupe and what Lupe did and what Lupe talking about in the lane he
opened, you got a nigga like J.I.D. who can do that and
he seen what Lupe can do and
mastered it and was a little nigga
hearing that at an even younger age than Lupe
heard whatever he heard and became
Lupe and this nigga became J.I.D.
and I think that J.I.D. is a better
rapper than Lupe Fiesco
because of that nigga
that's just like
I don't know that's just, like, I don't know.
Like, that's just a realistic thing to say.
No, the rap, like, you switched it.
Because rapper, okay, I'll agree with you.
He has the potential to be a better rapper than Lupe.
Lyricist? Hell no.
Yeah. I think that, yeah, he's, like, okay,
because if, okay, so if you're gonna,
if we're gonna stamp out
what is a better lyricist and what determines as a lyricist,
then yeah, he is a better lyricist than Lupe because they still probably basically talk about the same shit.
Throughout time, Lupe was at a time where niggas was using not as advanced wording as they're using.
Lupe just dropped an album last year.
That's the most lyrical thing ever created.
What are we talking about? Come on, brother. We can't do that. Okay, Lupe just dropped an album last year. That's the most lyrical thing ever created. What are we talking about?
Okay, so
this is an objective thing.
We're looking at words then because
no, if we're talking about it right, he
obviously is a nigga that
came in that lane of growing up on that.
He's trying to be
more lyrical than that nigga if he's
looking up to him. And I think
that throughout time, especially how he rapped,
I think, how is he not
then? How is he not more lyrical than Lupe?
Because he is not.
How though?
How though?
Because Lupe
does shit with words.
Like I said, when I say lyricists, I'm talking about
Bro, it's only so much, bro.
I'm a musician, bro. It's only so much bro i'm really i'm a musician bro it's only so much you can like
if we're talking about two niggas who go in there and trying to perfect a word craft to put it in
on wax nigga these niggas is sitting here and figuring out what words did they use and whatever
resources they're using to like figure out who gonna have the best lyrics. Nigga, like, I'm literally sitting here thinking about this.
I literally think that
Lupe, like, unless we're
like saying that nigga went to
a good mood in this thing.
All out in the place to be, yeah, feel me.
Uh-huh.
You know what I'm talking about?
Ain't nothing to it.
Separate the weak from the opposite.
Lady.
Who say mobsters don't prosper?
I foresee a place in time.
Monumental like they making dimes.
Like Wilhelmina.
I foresee like it's Mason Mines.
On the MIC like I be making mines.
All it take is spine, like a snake design
Just to take your time and wait in line
Like my latest rhyme
It produces like a muse, but reduces like it's made of wine
In the face of shine, made it out the latest bind
In the shape of crime
I can't take it like it's made of swine
But can't break it like an agent mine
Without the torture
Water bought it till it turned into reporter
Uber mentioned 10, I treat these sneakers like a tour bus
and we walk the streets like they assure us the wishing whales failed just watch
the pork and pick the quarters up and why be satisfied with courtmeme
meme Thank you. Yeah. We're all chemicals, vitamins and minerals, and Vicodin we're in the tubes wrapped around
the arm.
To see the vein like a chicken on the barn.
Top cat chat, let's begin another yawn.
This flying sauce and cheese, or is the chicken palm?
The roosters don't fly like boosters don't buy.
So what powers cowards to get them to the top?
Just to fall asleep, listen in the back.
The ribbon in the sky is the ribbon that I drop.
Dribbling the eye across the prism of a clock that lacks meaning.
But racks up stacks of fat reed and the cat's cheap and wrapped up plants from trapped feelings.
Now what's the coffin with a scratch sealant?
And what's the talking without the match feeling?
That's berry living and cherry picking every lemon from your berry system.
Then proceed with the pack feeding.
When I was young, I had visions of another world.
Sneaking looks at the porn stash and my brother hurled.
Incense, smoke, made vortices and other curls.
Casting calls for porn films and ad space for rubber girls.
I like my pancakes cutting swirls.
Moroccan moles and undercover squirrels.
I like cartoons, southern cities with large moons, faith healers, ex-female drug dealers
and art booms.
Apologize for my weird mix, which tastes like hot dogs and tear drips.
It looks like pantomime and clear bricks, and smells like shotguns and deer piss.
They on a hunt, kind of salty that I'm going hard. First part of a party that I throw in pods. One minute you playing pool, next minute you throwing dogs. Busters, how you do with a party that you throwing bars. I run the gamut like I'm throwing cards.
Popular mechanics throwing my dosing hard.
Paint cold pictures like Nova Scotia landscapes.
Nerd gang, like Mendel Bratz sets.
When we handshake, a word game.
Back up, playing neck and damn lakes.
Back up, playing neck and damn lakes.
Back up, playing neck and damn lakes.
Back up, playing neck and damn lakes.
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Back up, playing neck and damn lakes.
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Back up, playing neck and damn lakes.
Back up, playing neck and damn lakes.
Back up, playing neck and damn lakes. Back up, playing neck and damn lakes., plan, that can damn, let's back up, the word plane, plan, that the man states means I can still be the man, if the dam breaks, the wind demands break, some reflections, what they can't face, but Pyrrha still treat the mirror like it's a fan base, the unfettered veteran, the eagle feathered man, a medicine that hovers above cities like weathermen, or maybe weatherwoman, whatever better to tell you weather coming, I prefer girls to rain all over the world, and not rain like rain man, or rain like rain dance, or rain like a slight chance of rain when it's raining, or rain like deer slaves to Santa Claus slave man, but rain like queens that rain over made men and not queen like queen killer fcd bohemian
queen but queen like white glove wave hand and not wave hand like it's a heat wave so you make a fan
by waving your hand i'm talking wave like you saying hey man and not hate for horses and horses
like you almost watched this you gotta treat your vocal cords like it's a fortress and treat every
single one of your words like reinforcements and especially when you're recording because that's the portion that's important when i was
reporting that i was poor but now i'm more than it's still up in heels on my sugar heels and
sweet spots crying shames make margarita rims from cheap tops deep plots and florida ceiling windows
for my pee pots the little scenes with the sickle swings to make the weed drop in a hundred words
for them hummingbirds and like the eavesdropping while you listen I don't need you to go look up the lyrics and read them while you listen
I don't even need to do that bro
I don't even need you to do that
That song right there just proves even further my point bro
That shit was a fucking maze and it was fucking wordplay after wordplay and bar after bar
It was a bad song
Me being a musician
I know exactly how that would come into being developed It was a bad song. Me being a musician,
I know exactly how that would come into being
developed or something of that
in a song. And I'm telling
you, anybody who listens to
J.I.D., J.I.D. can
do that, nigga.
Any fucking nigga who
really is a lyricist, anyone
could do something like that.
So... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. really a lyricist to do something like that. So, what is that?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You're not, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no.
You're going to misrepresent my point.
I only argue when you said he's five times Lupe.
I ain't say he ain't, I ain't say he can't,
I ain't say he ain't a lyricist.
He's like up there with the top.
I say he a top lyricist.
Okay, I'm not, okay.
I'm not saying he's time five times better than lupe i'm saying he's like five times in terms of what
lupe is to people like super lyrically super lyrical super wordy super like change this that
vocal this that with that's it that's what no that's different though i I feel like I'm not discrediting
anything you're saying, bro.
I just don't want you to get me mixed up with that Kendrick
shit that he do ain't the same thing as what
Lupe do, bro.
I didn't want to say nothing but if it happened,
it's not the same thing as Lupe do, bro.
I was hoping that a nigga would say
if he did, then it's cool because that's fine
because I knew a nigga would say it. That's not what that's fine. Because I knew niggas would say it.
That's not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is that, and even if you want to bring that part right there,
that right there just proves that niggas who can rap, who elite, they can rap.
We're not taking anybody out of the context that these niggas can't rap.
But we're talking about levels and niggas on certain levels,
then that's what, like, we've got to find out what is making these niggas on certain levels then that's what what like we gotta find out what
is making these niggas different in this sense you know what i'm saying and to me i'm not even
going too deep as what makes niggas different or what makes this person better than this person
i just know an original topic was that this person can't do this or something of that nature.
No, no, no, no.
I said that he, to get to the next level, he needs to do that.
But this is what I...
It's so weird to say because I don't think that Lupe has the peak that J.I.D. can have.
That is my issue.
I've always just accepted Lupe as a lyricist
because when he does it,
that's all I see for him.
He's just that.
I don't know, for some reason,
I hear, see, and, you know,
see interviews, see him talk,
hear his voice, hear everything about him,
and I'm like, bro, you can do so much more.
Like, you're a great...
That is my... Like, can do so much more like you're a great that is my like I
see so much in him
yeah that's who you talking about
with J.I.D right
yeah I see so much
in J.I.D that I don't think he should be
stuck in a lyricist lane he is
he got so much potential
maybe that's what I'm seeing when I'm saying
that what it does things that
we're talking about that separating it when we were having that conversation was the length of time that Lupe's been out, which to me is the only difference to me in terms of, like, to them.
Is Lupe ain't been out longer.
He got classics. And if you're going to say that J.I.D. don't got classics per se, which some people can say he do,
some people can say he can't,
like, I'm going to be realistic and say that
because I don't know stuff like that,
that I'm going to sit here and I'm not going to say that he got a classic
because I can't sit here and say it.
I can't recite it.
But I don't know the album by name.
But that don't mean that he don't got classics.
That means that I don't know. That literally, no, no, no. That's literally what that means. If you can't name it by name, but that don't mean that he don't got classics. That means that I don't...
No, no, no. That's literally what that means.
If you can't name it by name, then it's not a classic.
Me, though, because a nigga
could go out right now and be like, nah,
come out right now. Somebody out here right now
be like, nah, I know this shit right now.
Not looking at it.
But does that make that a classic?
Because it could.
Does it add niggas?
What makes it a classic, though? If it was his first album Like but does that make that a class because it could this is that maybe especially if it's maybe less
If it was first album and nigga did his first at least his first first song bar for bar
No, no, no because we talked about it one like when I started the space at the end of the day numbers matter
So even if you got it no matter if it's a classic or a cult classic,
it has to be majority voted by your cult or the world.
That's numbers matter.
Well, I'll say this though.
If we're talking about this nigga right now as being who we know as J.I.D.
and we're talking about his first album.
And if somebody can say his first verse.
What's his first album?
I don't know.
That's what I'm saying.
To play devil's advocate
and be objective, I'm sure
there are people who actually think
that Kendrick Lamar
has classics.
If my life depended on it today,
I couldn't tell you now.
You're a hater though. Good Kim Madsen is a classic.
Good Kim Madsen is a classic.
The thing is, even Kim LamLamar been out way longer.
So that's what I'm saying.
Like, at that time, now.
How long you think J.I.D. been out for 10 years?
Yeah, exactly.
He really has.
But he hasn't been out.
Yeah, he's old as hell.
He hasn't been out for as long as Kim DeLamar.
No, he's been out.
He just ain't got nothing that's stuck.
But Kim DeLamar just got his only couple albums that he got now.
Good Kid Mad City is really the only one.
The only classic.
Bro, come on.
Now you're being dead.
Don't argue to argue, my nigga.
Like, literally.
J.I.D. has been around for a long time.
And we can't name nothing from him.
And I hate Kendrick to death, and I can name his classics.
So what are we saying?
His classic is Newt Good Kid, Mad City.
That's what I just said.
Absolutely.
But I said that.
But he don't got.
I'm saying J.I.D. can rap way, he raps circles around Kendrick.
But he ain't got a classic.
But that's what I'm saying, though.
So that's what I'm saying.
If J.I.D. had 15 years and he was his first.
So he didn't have five more years.
But that's what I'm saying.
Even like his, this is what I'm saying.
Even J.I.D.'s first album right now is probably a classic.
What I'm saying is this. Just because I
don't know that don't mean it's
not especially because we're having... Yes, it do.
Yes, it do. Yeah, yeah.
Classics are... You can say co-classics,
but classics are made by the casual
fan. Bro, there's
no... I'm just
being realistic, bro, right now.
Just being super objective and saying
because I don't know and I have to look right now to know the name and the songs that's on there, I'm not going to call that album a classic.
But if I go down there and look, and because it's his first shit and we're talking about J.I.D. and because of how I feel, how nice I think this nigga is, it's probably classic to most people.
That's not a thing, bro.
I know what you're trying to do.
How is that?
It's no such thing as it's probably a classic.
That's not how classics work, my nigga.
Yeah, because there's stuff that's in Spanish
that's classics that you wouldn't have
no fucking idea about.
I don't listen to that music,
so that has nothing to do with me.
What's your point? He has classics, I'm't listen to that music, so that has nothing to do with me. But, what's your point?
He has classics, I'm sure.
To his regular fans.
It do. Alright, name me a cult
classic then. Are you a fan?
Um, I casually listen. I'm not
like, I wouldn't know. Alright, so what's his classic then?
Alright, so anybody. Anybody.
So anybody. Tell me
his cult classic.
I ain't gonna ask for a real classic.
His fans don't even know his classic.
DiCaprio 2 is a classic.
Never told story is a classic.
Never told story 2 is a classic.
It's a cult classic.
Those are cult classics that I was just able to name.
Say less.
But however, however.
Go slow, Go slow.
What's your name?
What's his classic album?
The One. DiCaprio 2.
DiCaprio.
This is a mixtape, bro.
I didn't want something.
For sure.
You didn't know, nigga.
I did know.
I was just saying.
You were trying to get other people...
Because it's not a classic.
It's a a classic.
It's a cult classic like you said.
And there ain't nothing wrong with that.
At all.
Ooh, you wanna have a fantasy tonight?
Call 1-800-55-562.
That's funny. I'm here by the stage at a hip-hop concert.
I just spotted a gaggle of rappers.
I see lawyers and lawyers of cash in their bags.
I see guns with extended clips.
I don't even fit the guns in their trousers.
It's what I'm trying to say.
I'm so tough.
Don't mess with me.
I'm the baddest bloke on the block.
Kai said play general after this by J.I.D.
Bye, Demetrius.
It's over.
Breaking news on the Caprio 2, channel 2, at 2.
Take it, John. We're going to play his classic. There seem to be two niggas aboutrio 2, channel 2, at 2. Take it, John.
We're going to play his classic.
There seem to be two niggas about the game.
Well, I know, but since Kai doesn't speak, he said play that one.
Is that right?
We'll play it after we hear his classic.
Oh, there they go.
This is far though. this is super far basic
go shalom
with big clips
i don't care
give it bad I was just trying to give me some money the other day.
I've been so down on my luck I'm humble
in every way I stumbled on every step mumble with every breath do not repeat myself I will not
okay good night to the cool kids say hi to the bad y'all east side man scientists we ride niggas dying
women throw pussy at me I never seen cats cats flying, but never say never, never say never, just say whatever.
I done came up, I done came up, put your chains up, and your brains up, fuck the other side, we don't change up, while our homies ride, they can't change us. I done came up, I done came up.
Put your names up, hit them played up.
Fuck the other side, we don't change us.
Hold up homies ride, they can't change us.
We hit the pack with the weed in the sack, in the back, in the black, J.I.D. with the cat.
Cheese with the jeans on the strap, on the seam with the lean, get the cream, how you been with your wack?
Seen what I seen on the scene with the beam on a rack, don't move, it's a thing on your hat. Put the hold in that ball team on your hat. I Oh, this nigga rap so fucking good, bro. God damn.
Yo, Jay, and you can even say the forever story too is a classic too.
Oh, Jay, basically you talked all that shit and then like stopped.
We don't change up.
Hold up.
Wait, you said what?
No, no, no.
This ain't, this ain't disproving what I'm saying.
I literally said this nigga is one of the best rappers ever.
I said he can rap. That's what niggas keep thinking I literally said this nigga is one of the best rappers ever. I said he can rap.
That's what niggas keep thinking I'm dissing in nigga.
I just don't.
That's not what I said.
I'm literally listening to it. What the fuck is happening?
I'm saying I don't remember this shit.
Until I hear it.
No, no, no.
What she's saying
is you said off first listen. This nigga don't got no classics. What she's saying is
you said
our first listens
you don't got no classics
Do you know what a classic is?
That's what I'm trying to decide
with you
What's the foundation of a classic?
A classic is something
that the world agrees on that we can we can remember like bro. Do you remember the song?
And I said the only reason that he got a classic over
GID is the timeline
That's what I said. That's the wow shit, wow shit, wow shit.
Tristamani, tristamani, tristamani, tristamani, tristamani.
Please, please, get on my dick, get on my dick,
party my hip, load on my clif, cannabis, cannabis,
roll on my spiff, Hannibal, Hannibal, look at that dick.
Edible, edible, got the bungees, but I got the bungees,
I'm a trouble with this shit, but I better get whipped with the pistol clip.
Nigga, talk about this shit, now I'm talking my shit.
Get on my dick, get on my dick, party my hip, load on my clif,
cannabis, cannabis, roll on my spiff, Hannibal, Hannibal, look at that dick.
Edible, edible, got the bungees, but
I got the bungees, I'ma job with this shit, but I better get whipped with the pistol grip,
nigga talking that shit, I'm talking my shit.
Okay, easy line to play, boy, don't got much to say, boy, cradle to the grave, and it's
been like this since the slave boy.
It ain't shit to pull up, pick the fucking tulip, screaming hallelujah, pushing daisies
and some tulips.
Skitty, bitty bitch, niggas in the city where they pull up with a stick, dirty with a dick, so you ain't a lot of time. I got a lot of time.
I got a lot of time.
I got a lot of time.
I got a lot of time.
I got a lot of time.
I got a lot of time.
I got a lot of time.
I got a lot of time.
The car is never going to get it.
He's never going to get me to take what I said back to him.
Because we like to argue.
But Chan, this might be a classic.
I don't know why.
Respect.
I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong except to Jakar.
This all the same, I don't.
And me.
Yeah, and my miss.
But you never do always wrong, so it don't matter.
I'm never wrong.
Even when I'm wrong, I'm right.
What's that saying? Get in the chat. Y'all tell me what y'all saying.
Am I overreacting? Am I underreacting? What y'all think about this joint? Y'all remember it?
Does that count? What is it counts as a classic to y'all?
The classic something that has to be...
The chat is heavily biased.
As far as Jake is concerned, I doubt that they're gonna like see-
I'm not biased against- don't try to gaslight the fucking people. Like niggas ain't biased against J.I.D.
I'm gaslighting the fuck out of the chat, I don't care.
Nobody ever had a problem with J.I.D.
Relax.
They're gonna be like, he's J. Cole adjacent.
Niggas barely got a problem with J. Cole.
Niggas definitely ain't got a problem with J.I.D.
Alright.
Alright, I've been in other spaces with people like where I'm whole.
Go in them other spaces then.
They ain't got nothing to do with us.
It's your space.
You got a problem with J.I.D.
Hey, what the fuck're crazy, man.
All right, so just disregard the entire chat
in case they don't agree with y'all.
But if you agree with y'all, then y'all are like,
oh, yeah, that's right.
Get my fucking nerves.
Fuck out of here.
Where you supposed to go like that? yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it's a dictatorship it's not a democracy all right j.i.d. and
y'all need to lay out the drugs some of y'all need to lay out the dope my niggas getting
straight off the boat pure cut put it straight to you knows I know what I know mr. No it all over you go. I'm the girl I put the shit to an end I'm the six with the pencil and pen Hit the blunt and mix the hand with the white
I'ma go ahead and lay off the zans
I'ma fall back, step in the lean
I gotta make sure my vision is clear
Oh God knows now it is seen
Six, five, four, one, two, three
Four, five, so you know me
You don't want smoke, so what it's gonna be?
Gotta watch what you say when you looking at me
Looking at God, looking for leaders, looking for kings
Look at the pain in your eyes, nigga, look where we been
Look at our wings, look at our sins, and look at our skin
I've been on no fancy bench, trying to get me a bed So the old fuzzy ass dance won't fuck up the ends Oh God, no, where are my friends? I still feel like I'm being tricked because I think I like his rapping so much that I still
ain't heard a good song that I would go back to.
I keep hearing good rapping.
That's my issue.
What does that even mean? That is about to jump in the view What's the last name the last five songs I played from J.I.D
Exactly you niggas don't notice on because they not rememberable. He just wrapped better than everybody. That's the same thing
I know the songs because they not rememberable. He just rapped better than everybody. It's not the same thing.
Don't listen to songs like that, dude.
That's what you issued in. I bet you could've named the last five Drake songs on For All The Dolls.
The last one that I listened to? Looking for no head on back study how we got what a fuck we yet mama caught Where the fuck you in on the road and ain't coming back into my honey stacks make a hundred wrecks in that honey
Rex bring a bundle back. I was blowing gas like the honey badger
They are deep is the money
We can move on to the conversation. I
I think I get I get the point it's me. It's not y'all
It's really like I think he's a he he has classics as far as he has his lane if y'all. It's Lilia. I think he has classics as far as...
He has his lane. If y'all want him to stay in his lane
forever, cool. He can be an elite
lyricist for the rest of his life and never
go anywhere farther. And he will always
be rapping better than niggas and never have a song
that I ever remember the fucking name to.
I guess it don't matter to niggas
that don't care
and listen to shit like that
because it's called classics,
people gonna do that regardless
because it's gonna be what it is.
I don't wanna talk to you, right?
Chin, you put me on.
Let me talk to Chin.
I just wanted to know, like...
You don't even know the song.
You just talking for your point.
Chin, you told me the mixtape.
Let's talk to you.
I wanted to know
what would
make him have a classic.
For example,
you said those numbers, that's
what matters in a classic. Not all that matters.
No, no, no.
What do you think I said when I said numbers?
I don't care about his sales.
Sales ain't numbers.
That's not all that matters.
I understand that.
But you're saying, like, how can he get out of that lane of lyricists?
Like, what do you mean by that?
He can't.
So, look.
Look, look, look, look.
He can't.
J.I.D. J.I.D.
We get it.
You're going to drift on whatever somebody else is saying.
We're cool.
I'm talking to Chin.
Chin.
What I'm saying is I can talk to a million a hundred people and say hey
JID is a like he cold bro. Listen this this song. He rapping his ass off. Listen to this. He rapping his ass
Hey, just listen to him. He gonna rap but it ain't never gonna be like bro
This song is my favorite song. This song is like I don't know him by songs. I know him. How good he can rap
him by songs i know him how good he can rap oh y'all gave me yeah okay so is that is that where
you draw the line where it's where as far as far as drake goes is that where you draw the line hey
i know the name of this song so i'm going no no no no i took drake out of it i i compared him to
cole you said cole yeah i i because because Drake ain't fair like of course
I'm I have bias so I don't want to talk about Drake because I know everything Drake more than most people know
So I don't I'm not even a Cole fan, but I know Cole songs
I don't know they called J.I.D songs would it be fair to say that they came out in a different era though?
Because Cole came out in the era of the fucking Big Three.
Where rap was a totally different.
No, no, no, no, he didn't.
No, he didn't.
It was never no Big Three.
Hold on.
No such thing as a Big Three.
Okay, okay.
Don't dissect my words.
Let's not play word suit.
But what I'm saying is that they came out in a different era.
Whereas J.I.D. was closer to the, let's even say the Yachty era.
J.I.D. was closer to that that era to the SoundCloud era then and and Lil Po 1 is a classic you said I know those songs
I know Minnesota I can name your Lil Yachty songs that were great I don't know JID songs
and I think he rap better than everybody I didn't know Lil Yachty songs either nigga I didn't even
know that shit I said I do me either I didn't I didn't I didn't listen Lil Yachty songs either, nigga. I didn't even know that shit. I said I do. Me either. I didn't.
I didn't.
But that
goes to marketing. That goes to
marketing. That's not his rapping ability
or his skills or how good
he is. That's not what I said.
I didn't know Lil Yachty had his rapping.
I said J.I.D. is more skilled than most people.
So I ain't talking about his skill or his rapping
ability. He's better. I'm saying he ain't made a song.
what I'm saying is that,
that right there
is the clear example right there,
nigga.
Just because you knew the song
and it was his first album
and we know Lil Yachty now
and he has some shit
on them shits.
That's a classic.
All right,
what's,
before you,
before you,
before you guys like,
what's a little,
be honest,
name a Lil Yachty song.
Name one. I know you can
I can't nigga I fucking can't
nigga
we gonna lie
and say like one night wasn't
a thing
what the fuck is one night
that's what I was getting ready to say
say less
we just grifting
right we don't know Minnesota we don't know one night One night. Cool. Say less. Say less. We just grifting. What's the name, right? On the Fallen Dogs.
Right.
We don't know Minnesota.
We don't know one night.
We don't know.
No, I don't fucking know.
Who the fuck cares about Minnesota?
I didn't know Minnesota.
I didn't know Minnesota.
Cool.
Cool.
If we ain't going to be honest, then I don't want to talk to y'all anyway.
Chin, please.
Chin.
What the fuck?
Chin, go ahead.
You didn't agree we lying.
That's not because you... No, you're lying, nigga, because we've had a Yachty conversation before and I've heard you say the song name.
You're lying because you're not a cool thing.
Thumbs down in the chat
if you don't know what the fuck Minnesota
or whatever the fuck the other one is.
I didn't fucking start listening to Little Yachty at all
until you started fucking hanging with Drake, nigga.
What the fuck is you talking about?
How you in a conversation then?
Because we talking about it
and I was talking about it before that.
But you said you didn't listen to him when he came out
so you don't even know today
So of course ain't talking to you. You never heard
I've heard him since then
I've heard him since then
You don't know nothing you you want to prove your point
He ain't got no classics to me
He ain't got no classics to me
How you gonna have class with me I just started listening to the nigga
Alright
You just you just you just prove your? I just started listening to the nigga. Alright. You just
prove your point. You just literally gave yourself
the answer. Earlier y'all was talking
about Lupe. Did y'all say Lupe had classics?
Yeah. He said it was the cool. It was his
classic and what I was saying to him
whatever.
Did you say hell no?
Cool?
Did you say hell no? the cool's not a classic?
Is that what you said?
No, I didn't say that.
Oh, okay.
He said it. He just wanted to troll
because he wanted to prove his point.
I want to talk to Chen, please.
Thank you. If everybody else shut up and just let me talk to Chen,
then he can get through to me.
He might approve. I'm okay with being wrong.
I just got to hear it from somebody's objective.
Thank you, Chen. Go ahead. Chan, it might be W muted. Just push the button a couple of times. It'll
let you off the mute.
Oh, okay. My fault. Nah. I just think it's an era thing. I think it's an era thing.
Lupe has a classic. How many other classic does Lupe have besides that one? Out of
all the other music that he's made, how many other classics does he have?
If you're asking me, that's the classic I can prove.
That's absolutely fair, but I think it's an era thing. How many classics can we name from
the past 10 years? mean you gotta say artists because
that's that's confusing that's like i don't know but it's a lot of artists if you name your artists
i could tell you if they got a classic or not i mean i mean not just not just lupe in general i'm
just talking about any artists that isn't of course the fucking victory whatever but i can
name a lot of them that's what i'm saying okay like like little baby has a classic little baby for sure does have a classic little yadi yadi have a classic
yes what little boat within the past 10 years okay so you're saying that but you know those
songs so aren't those because you walk up to little baby you walk up to a little baby fan base
they're gonna for sure know a this whatever album you believe is a classic by Lil Baby is a classic.
So that's what I said. I said name, name of artists I don't know. Like, I mean,
name of artists I don't like, I don't like. And I'll tell you they're classic too.
I'm in a music. Okay. Um, I mean, I don't know. I, this is my first time ever actually in this
space. So I don't know what artists you don't like.
You like Cardi?
Playboy Cardi got a classic?
Playboy Cardi?
He loves Cardi.
Cardi has three classics.
Cardi has three classics, so I'm not even going to... He cooked me.
Fuck Cardi.
That shit ain't classic.
He cooked me.
Cardi has three classics.
That shit ain't classic, bro. That shit is all ass.
What do you mean? Just because it's not a classic to you. No shit is all ass. What do you mean?
No, no, no.
All right.
Let me be honest.
If I'm being honest, then Dalit is probably going to be his classic.
Facts?
I don't know about any of that.
I would say this.
No, I wasn't talking to you, for one.
Talking to Chin.
What album do you have? Dalit. Dalit Talking to Chin. You know what? I'm going to put my point on what you have.
Dalit.
Dalit is a classic here.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't even like the nigga, and I can tell you his classic.
Please, Ja'Car, I get it.
If he got a classic, then name it.
Name one classic right now.
Who?
For Playboy.
I just said Dalit.
Okay, so that's my point then, because I don't think that...
No, I don't.
I just said, I don't like the nigga, and I can still name just said I don't like it again. I can still name his classic
I don't like J.I.D. and I can't name his classic. So what are we talking about?
He don't got no classics!
Hey, what about Kodak?
Kodak? Kodak got Pitches with Payne Pitches? It's crazy.
That's a fact!
Actually, his first second album was a classic.
No, Payne Pitches is a classic, my nigga.
Payne Pitches is a classic.
You can always say somebody has a classic because it's...
That's what I'm saying.
That's my point.
What are we talking about then?
You tried to put me wrong.
Now I'm telling you classics.
But you can always say somebody got a classic because it's either a cult classic or...
Do you agree?
If you don't agree, that's all that matters.
Do you not agree?
Agree with what?
I told you to name the artist and then I will tell you a classic.
If you don't agree, then we can come to an agreement
that we don't agree and I'm wrong.
Until then, then I can name everybody
classics but J.I.D.'s.
That was contradictory as fuck.
Cardi don't got no classics.
Cardi don't got no classics.
I just said, I'll let you know.
No, he don't.
Okay.
You're trying to make an argument, Jakar.
Relax.
I'm not making, bro.
I'm not saying about any of these other artists.
You said he ain't got no classics, and I said he do, and he's like, well, I said he don't.
I'm not saying about any of these other artists.
I didn't say about any of these other artists because of these people I listen to, and I know they got classics.
That nigga don't have a classic to me.
Well, I would love to hear from Chen, please.
I just think having a classic versus not knowing that it's a classic are two different things.
Because we just showed you DiCaprio 2, and you don't understand that that's a classic.
I think it's a...
What the fuck was that?
I remember just being messed up.
Just gotta fuck this face up, like always.
Heard your car, and sure, I'm sure Kevin gonna jump in his bitch next, and they're just gonna make it
something that ain't.
So before he jumps in here...
I've never heard of that
Lupe Fiat. I'm not saying
that it's not a classic, but I've never...
Is that the one with fucking kick push on it?
That's the only song I know
truly by Lupe. I haven't done
the knowledge on Lupe, so I
can't say it's not a classic i feel like that's hard look i'm i'm gonna accept it but i feel like that's
disingenuous there's no way you don't know the cool by lupe how old are you i'm 26 which is why
i can no way you don't know the cool by lupe but i haven't done the knowledge i've just i
it ain't got anything about like i said i haven I haven't done a knowledge on Cardi. I just know what the fuck is the classics, bro.
What album is Kick Push on?
Food and Liquor, too.
Oh, then that's probably the classic, because that's the only one that I like.
That I know.
I mean, no, it's Food and Liquor 1.
See, Jay, you just put me on game for me to go back to and do the knowledge on Lupe.
But I don't want to do the knowledge. That's not the point. It ain't about me trying to teach you about new artists.
From my point of view, classics, like, of course, like I said, it's a lot.
I think every Drake album is a classic.
But, of course, I know everybody don't feel the same way.
So I know some of them might be co-classics to real hip-hop fans.
You see how I did that?
It's cool.
But, like, what I'm saying um like what i'm saying is what i'm saying is
it i they're still always like if you ask about of course he'll be he's the biggest artist so
niggas gonna say take care but he got one um like i said i don't listen to cardi i think he's done
the most trash thing in the world no niggas love dalit so that's where i don't know what jid classic
yeah i didn't see i didn't know any party class because I don't know what J.I.D. Classic. See, I didn't know any
Cardi Clack because I didn't know people listening.
You're not a music fan, so that's like your...
You gotta...
For sure.
You're not even from this country, bro.
Okay, but I got a serious question.
Your favorite rapper
artist, whatever.
Okay, what's Pusha T's classic?
The Clips clips The first album
No, like his solo
His first one
What's it called?
I don't think
Well, I mean, if you want to be honest
I don't think he has one
I don't think he has one
Most fans, casual fans
Will agree he don't got one.
I'm talking about casuals.
What about Dre?
Would he say that he doesn't have a classic?
Who, Dr. Dre?
No, the guy that runs his community.
All right.
Cool.
That's funny.
All right.
Go ahead.
Go ahead, Chan.
Please.
No, I'm cool. We came to the agreement. And I understand. Well ahead, Chan, please. Nah, I'm cool.
We came to the agreement, and I understand what's going on.
Well, we know we did.
Don't be trying to gaslight me.
I ain't coming to an agreement with your ass.
I know, what are you talking about?
We came to an agreement.
You're trying to make me come to an agreement.
I don't mind agreeing with your ass.
I'm cool.
I'm cool.
I get it.
I understand what you're saying, is that, nigga, if you don't know the name of the album
or anything that you can explain, hey
Do you know this song to somebody and they're like nah, I've never heard of it. It's not a classic
But that doesn't eliminate the cult classic. Yeah, so of course. Yeah
cult classes are between the cult that's why like
Care package is a Drake cult classic, but if you don't listen to Drake all the time
You don't know take you don't listen to Drake all the time, you don't know Care Package like that.
So it's one of those ones.
When I'm saying classic, it's something that, hey, what's Drake's classic?
I can say to a random nigga, and they're going to say, take care.
It's a general knowledge question.
Exactly.
No, I don't think J.I.D. has a regular classic.
classic at this current moment until niggas actually do the knowledge most most niggas
At this current moment, until niggas actually do the knowledge.
are not going to do the knowledge because they don't care hip-hop isn't something that people
care to listen to like that like care to do the knowledge on they just want to ride the wave
that's that's cap that's cap that's that's super cap like a classic a classic is something that
it don't matter if you've got to do the knowledge or not. It's going to grab you and pull you into it.
The most recent Clips album is going to be a classic?
Huh?
Does that pull you in?
The most recent...
Does that pull you in?
What about Freddie Gibbs or G Herbo?
No, no, no.
Absolutely not.
None of them.
What are we talking about?
Alfredo's not a classic?
Who?
It's all opinionated, honestly.
No, all music is
opinionated. I'm saying it's our majority
though. Majority of casuals
have to get pulled in for it to be a
classic. That's
undeniable.
Go ahead, Drakkar.
Hmm?
Drakkar
just trying to prove his point. He heard something
he said. I don't even care about none of that shit
I'm asking you
Do you think Alfredo is a classic?
Fuck no
So I bring back the question
I bring back the
A lot of niggas do
I bring back the question
A lot of niggas
The most recent Cliffs album That drew a whole lot of people in,
actually their highest selling album, Year to Date, isn't a classic.
That's their second album.
Nigga with High to Date, nigga.
That's their second album.
Is it a classic or not?
Okay.
What are we saying?
Because it's not a classic to you, it's not a classic.
No, no, no.
Because it's not.
Did it pull you in because you love the songs
or did it pull you in because they were talking about Drake?
Nigga, I love music.
Fuck a Drake.
Listen, I love music.
I love music.
You said what?
Fuck a who?
Fuck a Drake.
I love music.
All right. I love music. Alright.
I'm going to fuck.
Alright.
Alright.
Don't get too lightweight in this bitch.
Relax.
Nigga, I love music, nigga.
I don't care if he was talking about Drake or not, nigga.
I'm listening to the Coates album.
What's your favorite song on that joint?
Mike Tyson punched to the face.
FICO, nigga.
Like, there's great fucking songs on that album. To the point. I said, what's your favorite? Don like there's there's great songs on that album to the point
i said what's your favorite don't don't tell me what's great i just told you two songs i just told
you two songs pull up fico and mike tyson punch to the face i just gave you two songs my point
is is that if it's not a classic to you that does not mean that's not what i said see don't don't
try to gaslight everybody and say oh because i because I said, no, I'm literally about to finish the song, damn it.
But you just said that if it's not drawing a culture in or people into it, that it's not a classic.
And it did.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
It did.
No, it didn't.
It did.
It's the highest album that they've ever had.
What do you mean?
It's the highest grossing album that they've ever had after fucking how many years?
Does that mean it's a classic?
Because they cloud chase to a couple albums else?
Time also has something to do with a classic.
I would say.
Not necessarily, because if you ask Jay,
then Some Sexy Songs For You is a classic to him.
I think it was that good.
That's members ain't on my side.
Fuck her too.
No, I'm saying, like, time means nothing.
If the album is a classic, then it's a classic.
You ain't got to jump back over there now.
Hey, you ain't got to explain yourself.
She's right, though.
But I'm saying, I think that that album was also not even being bad.
Confessions, questions.
We contested.
Fireworks will send a message.
Erodescent.
Throw them down like Robitussin.
If you rush in, hatch your door and we address them.
We gon' bless them.
Try to bring them, should they left them?
Learn my lesson.
Poker faces, keep them guessing.
No expression.
I ain't dressing on my chest.
Best song on the album, by the way.
If you don't test them, eat your bitch and all my chest and leave it. That's on out home my niggas name ring like mobile phones and no one's home white back-to-back rolls at my gates white slave master souls in my state white python manolo is the chase she want to write
tight and blow to the face twist and turn these guns blitz and burn too many flip and turn had
to get rich to learn the basics of the nasal this case closed Got a team full of J-Fos on they toes.
Niggas knees leave, cheap as reasoning, believe me.
I can tell, cause your bitches look needy. What you want?
Mike Tyson, blow to the face.
Slalom high, she want snow, wanna play.
That price, when the blows and the crates meets.
That song on the album.
Classic.
Made a million overflow to the knees.
Niggas saying it, it won't just a face. I've noticed
I need to leave. Bring your ass back here, boy.
Somebody give me that.
I'm back in here.
Mad, got you tricking on your
women. Mad, I don't hit them.
I just spin them. Gunning and I'm grinning.
In the Bugatti in my denim.
This is the result of my vision.
React with precision. But God only in my denim. This is the result of my vision. React with precision.
But God only knows my intention.
But selling dope is a religion.
The hammer's in position.
I can show niggas the difference.
Okay, bring...
Oh, there you go.
So this...
That's not the best song.
I gotta bring it back up.
That's the best song on the album.
That makes it classic.
No, it's not the best song on the album.
Let's go to Jakar. Alright, bro. What's the best song on the album then it classic What's the best on my own name
It's like
I was losing yours to fuck it. So back to back
Sorry the back same song
The rest of y'all stuck in the run Sound like the exact same song now. Niggas embarrassing your own culture. for us. When you young, you realize that you can't trust the mouth where the pipe go. They tried but couldn't love you
enough. Dance music on my neck.
Where's your water bottle? Diamonds, the
light show. Looking like the sun
in the club. If you reen up with
us, then your credit score gotta be
FICO. I'm talking 850
or bust. See you really will
power when you make niggas balance
on tight ropes. They know they not much
for the blood. Have my man shoot your block. I'ma send his ass far as the flight go. Ain't worry about ducking a judge. Keep running for your bitches. Cause any minute repo might show. You know that shit up for them.
We just played the two best songs on the album. Last.
Alright. I can't even tell the difference between these songs.
Niggas ain't even made no song.
He's rapping.
And this is my...
Nazir.
Go ahead, Nazir.
Fair enough.
Y'all hit me?
Absolutely
You at the Koi Pond?
Gang, gang, gang
Nah, I just got out of work, man
Just getting out the shower, but
Is it just me or like
I hear it a lot, man
And I don't really like fuck with the clips like that
But every time I hear
Pusha T rap
It's like he trying to do his best impersonation of Biggie, the shit he listened to.
But he's not that.
The same way his brother, in a similar way, his brother Malice could rap.
But the same way Jay-Z played the coattail of Biggie, then when Biggie passed, Jay-Z all of a sudden switched
up his flow and started rapping like Biggie.
Malice is
Malice, he raps, but
he's, to me, they falling
in that same, falling in that
same line. Like, niggas, like,
even if Malice was selling that
work, the rapping shit wasn't really
him, but because his
brothers start trying to do the rapping shit,'t really him, but because his brother started trying to
do the rapping shit, he started doing it too.
But this is the best day, quote unquote, best of them in years because this is all they
put out, but all they put out in a year.
Plus, Pusher needed his brother.
He needed the clips to kind of revive his career because the dissing Drake on every
album didn't work out as best as it was supposed to.
He thought that shit was going to work.
Everybody was trying to feed off of mentioning Drake.
And then he couldn't do the numbers without his brother.
So he got his brother.
But Pusha T is not in my top five for a reason because he's impersonating another nigga.
He's not really about that and he
ain't like that shit it bothers me i he he he he try to do too much too much shit like biggie the
flow the cadence he try to and it's like nah you're not biggie just the same way jay-Z could spit, but that nigga is not Biggie. And that shit is bothersome.
That will never be.
When niggas just like
copying niggas and
really just
they studied the nigga like a playbook
and just tried to take a whole nigga style.
Nah, you are not that.
And Pusha T will forever be asked
to me because of that.
Pusha T has a whole interview saying that he specifically tried to rap exactly like Biggie,
Bar for Bar, Cadence for Cadence.
And how long it took for that to come out, though?
I mean, he said he's been trying to do that. Specifically on one album, I think it was, he said it was
Dakota, whatever the fuck that album
was called. He said
that he... Classics, though.
That classics.
Yeah, he tried to rap just like that
on purpose, every single
song.
He tried to rap like that
on purpose for his entire fucking career.
And it ain't perfect.
He's an impersonator, man.
That don't help. I don't know what you're saying.
He tried to make an album
like that, but he's been doing his whole career cool
He always tried to sound like Biggie and he ain't sound like Biggie because he's impersonating Biggie
just like the only the only classic Jay-Z album is
Fucking Reasonable Doubt and that was a that was leftover of fucking Biggie songs
Exactly.
Exactly
So what we saying? Go ahead, Chan.
Go ahead, Chan.
We just did...
We played the top two songs on that album.
You still think that's a classic?
They sound exactly the same, by the way.
I still ain't heard a good song by them yet.
Hey, bro. I'm not gonna lie.
I don't think you're a hip-hop fan. Oh, shit. There we go. I'm not gonna lie I don't think you're a hip hop fan
oh shit there we go
I'm gonna be honest
I don't think you really like
enjoy hip hop music bro
alright bro cool
and I'm gonna just leave it at that
leave it at that
I'm gonna just leave it at that bro
like I appreciate you now I me on to a loop page, but...
Now I don't like hip-hop.
Cool.
Nah, like, I'mma be honest with you.
Like, that's just how I...
So, since I don't agree with you...
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I don't like the shit you like, and I don't like hip-hop.
Since I don't like boring-ass songs, I don't like hip-hop.
I think that's...
That's not what I said.
But I'mma just leave it at that
no don't leave it at that
tell me what you said then
I just said what I said
and I'ma leave it at that
you said I don't like hip hop
that don't make sense
tell me how you don't like hip hop
I don't need to explain
because I don't like the shit you like
nigga that's what I just said
that's not what I'm saying
because I didn't say anything
I didn't say anything
when you didn't like J.I.D.
I didn't say I didn't like J.I.D.
you lying that's what I'm saying I didn't say anything when you didn't like J.I.D. I didn't say I didn't like J.I.D. You lying.
That's what I'm saying.
I didn't say anything when you didn't say J.I.D.
had a classic.
It's cool.
It's cool.
You don't like what I like.
I just don't think you're a true fan.
So you like hip-hop though, right?
You're a hip-hop fan.
I just don't think you're a true fan.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Answer my question.
You're a hip-hop fan, right?
Hold on.
Don't cut me off.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Answer the question or you can move the fuck down. Or you're a hip-hop fan fan if you're a hip-hop fan and you like what you like and i don't
like what you like so that means i'm not a hip-hop fan that means you're full of shit right now
you're just saying i'm not a hip-hop fan because i don't like what you like
you muted me so i couldn't i know i like i muted you because you're trying to i don't no no no i
don't want to talk to somebody that's not going to let me speak.
So you got it.
All right.
Well, see you later.
What are we talking about?
Keep moving.
That lame ass shit on somewhere, bro.
Now I'm not a hip hop fan because I don't like the fucking life.
I hate these niggas, bro.
What the fuck are we saying?
Go ahead.
Go ahead, Goseph, bro.
I was going to say, first of all let's go y'all um
say well i just wanted to say i just feel like it's like i said it was a pain in it but it's
always it's also interesting like it's also the visual interest in it everybody's not interested
into the same so like if 100 like jid and 50 like drink right put it in context like that
out of them hundred a few of them gonna find his readers to be classic like J.I.D. and 50 niggas like Drake, right? Put it in context like that.
Out of them hundred niggas,
a few of them niggas gonna find his music to be a classic.
Regardless of what anybody in the world thinks,
out of them hundred niggas,
somebody's gonna find his music to be a classic
and they fuck with it.
You get what I'm saying?
Just like, members were saying with Spanish music.
We don't speak Spanish,
but a bunch of Spanish people find
a bunch of Spanish music to be classics
that we don't know nothing about.
You get what I'm saying?
So I just feel like it's on the interest level,
people that's listening to it,
your fan base,
that's how your shit grow.
Like, get what you got trying.
Classic.
I consider it to be a classic.
You get what I'm saying?
I feel like you're trying to...
One of the top five albums of all time,
in my opinion. But I'm saying that I am... But my issue with what I'm saying? One of the top five albums of all time, in my opinion.
But I'm saying that I am.
But my issue with what you're saying is I'm saying I am into J.I.D.
I love his rapping.
I think he's one of the best rappers.
I'm saying that even though I listen to him, I can't remember nothing that he did.
I was getting there, too.
I understand both of your perspectives on that as well, because I'm the same way.
J.I.D., I did the whole dream of this shit.
J.Cole and J.I.D. is the only one that really stood out, really, for what they do.
J.I.D. be spitting.
Like, he spit like a motherfucker.
I don't care what you...
He's a rapper rapper.
You get me?
But you have to be interested in the rappers to really get it.
You get me?
You got to want to hear what he's spitting type shit.
So at the end of the day, when it comes to that shit, he's in his own...
Like, you can't really put him with drake because drake is on some other
drake branch out from just rapping and lyricism he did well i i i took it i took it away from drake
i said i'm not mentioning drake i put him with i put him with great cole yeah and i can understand
that you feel me but it's like a bracket level type like he's the type of that you got to put like
he could branch out like you said i feel like he could branch out as well.
You get me?
But for the lane that he's staying in right now,
he's in the lane like you gotta put him with niggas
like above me, middle, but in a box
where niggas dance rapping, like with some shit like that.
You get me?
You can't put him in a box with niggas
that's doing way other shit.
You feel me, sir?
I feel like in order for him to be,
he done got like Lil Baby, when he dropped, freestyle. Niggas are still bumping freestyle to this day from Lil Baby, you feel me sir i feel like in order for him to be he don't got like like little baby when he dropped freestyle niggas are still bumping freestyle to this day from your baby you
feel me that's some classic right there niggas are still bumping that to this day jid has been
in the game for a minute and my my only when it comes to like that is that there is a
timer when it comes to this you get what i'm saying so the longer it takes you to find your
niche or find what you need to be doing, is the hardest it's gonna be for you
to be who you need to be.
You get me?
Right now, I feel like he still has a chance to do that.
But he still, he has to get on his shit.
You get me?
He's still a rapper, he still be doing his shit.
He be doing his shit how he do it.
You feel me?
He dropped quality shit, for real.
He raps.
But I feel like he can branch out of that.
I feel like he can reach another level of stardom or fame or whatever you want to call it in his career.
I feel like he gets to the next level, but he has to do other shit.
Like, you go back to like, Pat Sulk, right? Pat Sulk was on some other shit.
Like, when I really got into him type shit, he was only out for like a year.
But he dropped music where he was like, you feel like he was out for longer than what he was really out for type shit.
You get me? And even him, when he came out, he was just rapping.
He was a rapper.
But then his last shit, after he died, you heard that he was branching out into some other shit.
He started dropping shit with females, you feel me?
All kind of other shit that was like a bop.
He had the vibe going, all that kind of shit.
So it's like, it all comes down to what you do with yourself.
You feel me?
If you want to just be a rapper, you can just rap for years.
A bunch of niggas to rap.
On a bunch of beats, you get me? But that's going to be your lane if you choose that to be your lane you feel me anybody don't have the image anybody don't have the appearance anybody don't have the
scale the creativity to get to the level that niggas want to get to you feel me that's why
it's hard to even even the kendrick lamont or even the drape or niggas that's on the next level
you know how many people want to be rappers in my days? You know how much rappers living in your hood right now?
You get me?
But it's a level store.
It's a level store where you can go.
It's a package deal.
You know what I'm saying?
So I just feel like with J.I.D.,
he has what it takes to do what needs to be done,
but he just needs to push.
You feel me?
He don't really got the time.
Like, I feel like he don't really got the time to really,
know what I mean?
Like, he wouldn't really get on what he need to get. He needs a mainstream bang. He needs to get on certain
shit that's going to put him to the forefront of his career. He needs to be pushed harder if he
wants to get to the next level. That's how I feel about it. If he's been out here. If you could just
look up, if you can look up in a Jumbotron right now, it's a post from a day and a half ago.
If you can, you know, just you you can read through it silently or you
can read it out so you can really say like what i've been trying to say like because it's it's
either it's like when i'm saying what i'm saying not you you ain't say it but it's coming from
you know oh dude it all it all all of a sudden went from i'm dissing the nigga jid because i
said my opinion on i believe when i started this
i only said that because i see more i see the potential in him i think he's a elite lyricist
but i think he has the writing ability the the the sound to be a mega star he just needs to do
these things if he don't do these things i don't. He'll still be a star We all know him so it ain't hurt his career
I just I'm just saying I want the nigga to be as big as he can be and in order to do that
He has to put some more tools on his bill
Or he can keep making the best rap albums and just be out rapping niggas. That's cool, too
That's cool too.
I feel like there's a peak in certain categories.
There's a peak in certain categories
That is why we know you can rap.
You get me?
And I feel like that's what it is when it comes to like,
we already know you can spit.
You've been spit, we know you got the bars,
we know you spit.
So unless I'm looking for just rapping, you feel me?
I'm not gonna be looking like, yo, this damn dirt.
If you got something like that, that sticks out,
you know what I mean?
Like, oh, I like this, oh, I like that, that's different.
But it's like, we just get to the point where you just have to, like, we're looking for
something different.
Like, we're looking for...
It's like, drink this shit.
Drink really came...
I'm not gonna blame it on drink, but it's a type of shit where if rap was just rap like
it was back in the day, it would've never got to the heights that it is now type shit.
You get what I'm saying?
Like, and a nigga like drink is one of the main pieces of changing what the rap used to shit. You get what I'm saying? And a nigga like Drake is one of the main pieces
of changing what the rap used to be.
You get me?
It used to just be about lyrics and bars
and all that kind of shit.
But then we got into, you feel me?
Like we got into the whole singing shit
with the club and all that.
It's all kind of shit that,
but Drake was like the key structure of changing it.
Can niggas that used to rap never used to sing.
You feel me?
And he used to be a whole different shit.
And the clubs used to be different. All type of shit used to be different you get them saying
i just feel like that's just how it changed and things i used to rap to understand that
the rap game is not what it used to be you feel me used to always be about lyrics and i mean it
wasn't about the beat it wasn't about all kind of other shit used to be about bars but we living in
2025 now you know i'm saying It's about bars. Even then,
it went from
about lyrics and bars
to lyrics and bars don't matter
at all to
now we have a mix of lyrics
and songwriting as well.
That's where we're at now. We're at the mixture.
Because we had Snap Music.
We had the Ying Yang Plains, nigga.
And then we also had Biggie and Pac.
So we've had all...
That's what I'm saying.
Real hip-hop is...
What the fuck is real hip-hop?
Hip-hop has fucking evolved over the years so many times.
Everything that's hip-hop is real hip-hop.
That dumbass griff they try to do all the time.
Fuck out of here, nigga.
Nigga, mumba rap was real hip-hop.
Don't, like...
It's so weird with that shit, bro. They try to categorize it, but it all came from the same shit. It all stems from the same shit. Fuck out of here nigga nigga mamba rap was real hip-hop. Don't like
Even then they hated what they were saying that oh uh well we're we're we're artists don't put us in a box
and now they want to get put back in the box what is we talking about okay like i remember
ebro specifically saying don't put hip-hop in a box we can do other blah blah blah and mix it with
hip-hop and now he's saying no that
real hip-hop only like these just flip-flop depending on what the agenda is bro
that's the crazy but it is what it is that's how i look at it you feel me it's like this
whole we see we see people change but you can't really just give it time i mean times is gonna
just reveal all the like i said from before? Like, like I said from before, you feel me? Like we ain't never had the K-box before last year.
Nothing has changed.
You feel me?
And you hear Kendrick talking about
you can't fake the influence.
And it's like, bro, the shit's been influenced already.
You feel me?
And I also feel like, y'all was talking about earlier,
how they try to cut out like the bigger artists,
how you have like legacy artists like Drake.
And I believe that shit to the fullest as well.
You feel me? Because Drake got to the point where point where I mean like no you can't cut you can't you can't
really kill his career like they tried you feel me like you can't they don't want no artists to get
to that point because the fans are really what carries the artists and when the artists realize
their power that's when it gets serious so if a label is pushing the artists they don't want the
artists to get too big to the point where they don't have to control over the artists.
You get what I'm saying?
So I understand that as well.
So, yeah, I'm just in tune.
I'm in tune.
Are you cooking?
You're cooking.
Yeah.
Like I said, and that's what I was trying to get through with him.
Like, I wasn't disagreeing with bro.
But bro, like, when he did the thing where I don't agree with him on this, so he did that K-Bot shit.
Oh, you ain't hip hop.
You must not like hip hop.
Like, come on, bro.
We ain't really about to do that right now for real for real like we just got done talking about the
history of hip-hop and now all of a sudden i don't like what you like so i'm not hip-hop no more so
you're the only nigga that can be hip-hop if they like what you like so you have a certain criteria
of what the fuck hip-hop is so you don't even know hip-hop all that goes both ways because
just because he didn't know any other thing besides
kick-push you're saying like oh well he doesn't know hip-hop did i say he wasn't hip-hop no no no
no no no don't don't don't you can i mean you can go over there with him if you really want to
i didn't say he wasn't hip-hop at no point i said what i said about lupe the
what does that got to do with being hip-hop
not everybody knows what you know and vice versa so not everyone and i said i didn't say that wasn't hip-hop that's what the i'm saying you ain't got no i know that don't
mean you're not hip-hop that's my whole point
Let's go to hip hop I Hip-Hop narrative. Nigga, everybody that likes hip-hop is hip-hop. What the fuck is he talking about?
It's that real rap though, right?
It's original hip-hop.
Oh, God. I am Wonder Mike and I'd like to say hello. I'm to the black, to the white, the red, and the brown, and the purple, and yellow.
But first I gotta bang bang, the boogie to the boogie.
Say I'm drunk, the boogie to the bang, bang boogie.
Let's rock, you don't stop.
Rock the rhythm and I'll make your body rock.
Well, so far you've heard my voice, but I brought two friends along.
And next on the mic is my man Hank.
Come on, Hank, sing that song. Check it out, I'm the C-A-N-S-N, the O-V-A, and the rest is F-L-Y. I You mean not hip-hop or something like this song? I mean, hey.
You going by hip-hop? I haven't called nobody.
I haven't called nobody not hip-hop yet.
I've gotten called not hip-hop because I didn't like somebody else's shit.
Don't give my shit to me.
Hip-hop ain't did nothing but evolve.
There's multi-faceted hip-hop, and that's how it became the biggest genre in the world. I'm not saying no name if I may be nothing but involved
That's how it became the biggest genre in the world
If a nigga even say you're not hip-hop you listen to it
That nigga ain't hip-hop the air whispering i love you and i'll always be here although i often reminisce i can't believe that i found a desire for true love floating around inside my soul because my soul is cold
one half of me deserves to be this way till i'm old but the other
this is my recital i think it's very hip-hop right
nobody knows the hip-hop business Not hip hop, right? Always hip hop. Nobody knows who the fuck hip hop is anymore.
This little girlie It's tricky, tricky, tricky, tricky. It's tricky to rock around, rock around.
It's right on time.
It's tricky.
Tricky, tricky, tricky.
In New York, the people talking try to make us rhyme.
They really hawk, but we just walk because we have no time.
And in the city, it's a pity because we just can't hide.
Ticket windows don't mean nothing.
They know who's inside.
It's tricky to rock around, to rock around, that's right on time, it's tricky Oh, you mean, tricky, tricky, tricky, tricky
It's tricky to rock around, to rock around, that's right on time, it's tricky
Tricky, tricky, tricky, tricky, huh
Can you hear me?
Yes.
Just put me.
you Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
