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Letโs talk about it โจ๐ซ๐ฉท
Recorded: April 9, 2025 Duration: 3:05:34Space Recording
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Music Thank you. Music Hello, hello. hello hello can you all hear me loud and clear mella b in the house what an honor
mella b you missed our dark pill space right z z tell her about the dark pill space
mella this shit was fucking crazy bro wait when was the dark pill space. Mella, this shit was fucking crazy, bro.
Wait, when was the dark pill space?
It was last night.
It was literally just, I started a space.
I was interviewing Demonio.
Demonio.
And it was just so funny because then,
I don't even know how I think, shout out to Prez,
because I think it was literally because prez sent the space to
people and then people started coming in but it just went it went it got Zarek Mela I can't even
lie you got fucking Zarek in there bro but it was so funny like I was listening today I was fucking
I could not stop laughing dude I was like I cannot believe we were saying this shit but it was fucking
hilarious I was gonna say if y'all did the shroom space without me i would have been
hella mad oh my god mella no no no no you have to be there dude when we do that shit
they were just kind of me inherently oh okay well fair that's okay oh my gosh yeah mella if you
have not met thorn we have got to introduce you to Thorne, man. He made the whole space last night.
I think I did.
I feel like I met Thorne.
She met Thorne.
She met Thorne in the creativity space.
Yeah, we had that conversation.
Yeah, we had a really good conversation with Thorne.
But, yes, I'm sad that I missed the dark pill space.
I caught some of the light pill space today.
And then I went into Billy Carson space and I was just like, oh my God, I have so many questions.
I have so many things that I could ask.
But he's a busy man and I understand.
And I don't think he knows how to use space.
No, he definitely doesn't.
But the problem they have is that there's too many trolls.
So it's too hard keeping the trolls down.
Like there was a hundred trolls in there. I'm like, Oh my God. That's so it's annoying. I, every time I, I mean,
like this time when I was in Billy's face, I was getting DMS from a bunch of them too. Like,
they're just like all up in my DMS. And I got like three different messages from people saying
Illuminati and I'm like, okay, all right. Simmer down, bud. Let's not bring that into my algorithm.
So, but yeah, I don't know.
I just figured I'd open up a space.
It's been a minute since we've chatted,
even though it really hasn't.
Has anybody noticed that time in spaces
feels way different than in real life?
Like you could go like four hours not talking to someone.
Oh my God, it's been so long.
It's always been like that.
Since 2021, when I started doing these spaces,
it's like you enter this time vortex
and a week is like a month and a month is like a year.
So I don't know what it is, but Elon's doing something.
And you too, you keep playing music, hypnotizing people.
And then all of a sudden add that to what Elon's doing.
And we're on here for 35 hours straight, like a telethon.
Yeah, honestly, I think that maybe Elon will wake up to this eventually and realize that there's a lot of opportunity in spaces for this platform.
Like, think about it. They're not capitalizing on spaces at all.
Like, they're not doing anything with this.
It's just like, here's a way for you guys to chat.
They kept it because it was being used, but they haven't done anything with
spaces, and that's why it's so glitchy. So I'm very curious to see where they're going to take it,
because people are on these spaces all the time. There's always spaces happening,
and there's got to be something they can do for us. Because I think it's unlike any other platform, really.
I guess Clubhouse was the closest example.
But where else do you do this?
You're not going to do this on Instagram,
which is full of bots.
Did Mello B cut out?
Or is it just me?
I can't hear her.
Yeah, she cut out.
I can't hear her neither.
He just rubbed me.
Elon rubbed me because I was talking shit.
You got the Elon mute.
What the fuck?
I didn't do anything. I just saying dude you gotta do something for
these spaces um anyways so what do you guys think about i'm assuming everybody was in the billy
carson space let's talk about it what do you guys think yeah uh it's it's a lot of information it's
interesting you know it's a lot of information. It's interesting. I personally believe we choose a simulation to reincarnate into, and it has all these mysteries. But in the end,
there's one thing, the idea of faith. And the faith is in the mathematics. And he was saying
it a little bit. The math of this physical reality, as you always hear me say, is perfect.
And if it's perfect, then there's no proof that we're in physical reality.
We're probably in heaven. And with that, science can change, physics could change,
math could change, religion can change. And I think we're starting to see that. And as time
goes by, there's new adventures that pop up in this world. And even if it's the most evil of
people hiding our history, messing with us with the pyramids, lying to us about the Bible, it really sends us on a scavenger hunt. So even that's genius in the simulation. And I'll end there.
I okay so I was kind of blown away by what he was talking about regarding DNA and how
like I really want to read up on this I want to learn more about this because I'm one of those
people like I'm gonna I'm gonna I'll listen to you for the face value of what you're telling me
but I need to dive in deeper and I'm going to dive into that because if you really think about that if DNA can hold that much data that's incredible that's wild
and also I want to know what my data is I want to know like oh my god it makes me think about like
okay like reincarnation is that the data that we're holding? Are we holding like all of our past lives in our DNA?
Is that what's happening?
I don't know.
Maybe that could be the Akasha records that's in our DNA.
That's what he was talking about.
Maybe possibly.
Or the genetic memory from all your ancestors getting passed down.
Yeah, exactly. And that, I mean,
I think that we have that information. Like we all know, like our DNA is based on where we come from. Like certain people, I don't know if you guys know this, but the food that you're intolerant
to is actually, um, it's commonly thought that like that like, it's based on where your ancestry is from.
So like, if your ancestors weren't eating a certain food, then you're probably going to be a little bit sensitive to that food, right?
I think that makes sense. It makes sense to me.
And we see that on a more recent scale with, like they say, eat fruits and vegetables that are grown in the ground where you live, right?
Eat local because you're not accustomed to the stuff that's in the soil in a place that's hundreds of thousands of miles away from you.
from you. Like you're not accustomed to any of that like microbiome. So if you're having issues
Like you're not accustomed to any of that like microbiome.
eating certain foods, you might not have issues with those foods when you eat them locally,
if they're grown in the ground near you. So yeah, we see that. We see that like it is very much
dependent on our DNA and like, you know, the way that we interact with our the world around us so
i wouldn't be surprised by that but i see i see we have some hands um i don't know what order they
went up so i'm just going to go in the order that they appear on my screen and we'll say what up to
darren what's up darren darren yeah hi everybody. Hello, Melody.
Yeah, no, that was a cool space with Billy Carson.
It's a shame that he didn't co-host AJ and Darryl, first of all.
You can tell he's new.
I think he said it was his second space.
But just having the three of you on the stage,
he got up to like over 300 people.
So I was like, okay, yeah, he definitely draws a crowd. if you can please check your dms for me like it's important he's not checking his dms so i'm like all right i'm
just gonna have to use this opportunity to kind of he's he's getting so popular now isn't it it's
just like i can't even reach him now it's like bloody hell but yeah no that was a very good um
good space and i won't be able to stay for too long
because it's already nearly half past midnight my time.
But I'm glad I was able to not miss this little after space with you all.
Thank you, Darren, so much.
AJ is so popular that you have to track him down in spaces
to get his attention.
That's hilarious.
I love that.
Actually, my DMs, I got 100 people cursing me out.
He said this on this podcast.
Bring me up right now.
And I'm like, oh, my God.
You know, I was like, listen, there's too many trolls in here.
The spaces might not even be good for you.
He's like, oh, I got him nervous.
But you know what I'm saying?
Forget it.
People curse.
Actually, friends of ours that might come on here who are cursing me out i'm gonna catch them i'll end there i've just
sent you another one if they've been buried i've just sent you another one just saying dude
so it should come to your top so that you can just have a little look just stay quiet
and just read because i've asked you something i'm'm trying to sort out. So yeah, if you don't mind.
Thank you, AJ.
All right, let me read it right now.
Hi, AJ.
Hmm.
Nah, I'm just kidding.
That's funny.
That was for the dark space.
We did that in the dark spaces, right?
Would have been great if you read it and it was just Darren cussing you out for something.
He does get it from me.
He does.
Like all of these people, they say that.
AJ, I can't even say nothing.
I'm with a shot in my mind.
I love you, bud.
I love you so much.
See, Darren is so, such a good person and he thinks of everybody and not a lot of people are like that
so he doesn't understand that you know he's nobody's as great as him like that his he feels
everybody's emotions it makes him the great person that he is and because of that it's hard people
don't reciprocate you know and it's because I never met a person like you,
but you're teaching us and I love you.
Yeah, but I just don't know if I can continue to share
that kind of part amongst so many people who don't have it.
And unfortunately that's what I'm finding here.
Do you know what I mean?
Like I get it, like everyone's just focusing on them,
but people don't understand how sensitive i am and it's really hard
to kind of contain it do you know what i mean and everyone is just flowing where they're flowing and
i'm in the uk and i'm trying to do that i mean bring people together and whatever but people
don't reciprocate that to me and it's like wow i've brought so many people together and if it's
not reciprocated how do you think that makes me feel? It's a difficult, I don't even know if I'm going to stay here, AJ.
It's one of those ones.
Is it worth it?
You know what I mean?
No, you can't let people knock.
You can't let anyone knock you out.
You're the great uniter of people, you know, so you can't let that happen.
We all lose if you go down.
AJ, that's what I told Darren.
I said, dude, people value your conversation and your friendship.
I know for me, I do. I value your friendship. Every time you hold space, bro, you said, dude, people value your conversation, your friendship. I know for me, I do.
I value your friendship.
Every time you hold space, bro, you hold space for others.
Your interview spaces are phenomenal.
I mean, you link so many people up on here.
So I would just say, man, people is going to link up and vibe with other people a little bit more than some people.
But don't let that detour you, bro, because I value your friendship. And I'm sure plenty of other people
do too, man. Yeah, absolutely. I think, I don't know if you're just referring to like in spaces
and on X, but it sounds like it and i think that this platform
um i was saying this i don't know if you were here but things move so quickly on this platform
and i think that people are just kind of climatizing to it and they don't it's hard to
have the capacity to keep up sometimes with everything that happens on this platform
and I think the way that you do things like the way that you give yourself to people and connect
people I think that you're trying to combat that you're like let's bring people together
so that way we can all feel like this like big family and like that we're all taking care of
each other and stuff like that so I think that's beautiful and it just might take aj's gonna make fun of me he's gonna be like you're always the mediator but
it just might take some people a longer time to climatize if if that makes sense
yeah no it doesn't make sense you know i mean i feel like i'm just gonna say
because i'm just real in it like i i don't understand how if I've been doing spaces
consistently for a year many spiritual spaces many metaphysical spaces connected with a number
of you that you guys have started this light pure series and I kind of had to find out through the
grapevine no one came to me and that that's just made me feel like oh okay do you know I mean I
know it wasn't intentional,
but that got me into my feelings a bit.
So I'm just trying to process that.
Do you understand?
Like, it's just me.
And I hate being this sensitive.
I really do.
And that's why I just sometimes have to pull away sometimes because I know people are intentional,
but it does still hurt.
So that's where I'm at.
But you could come join the dark pill spaces right after the light pill no because i'm in the uk and that's what we started like 2 a.m and it's
just like i don't get no sleep in it do you know i mean so but i i know i know it was a really good
space i loved rachel's space and then everyone flying over to billy carson do you know
what i mean like it's nice that i've been able to just be open about it i don't care do you know
what i mean it is just me i'm a big softy like when people see me get all hard that's just me
defending this big soft heart that's what it is yeah that makes sense um yeah i mean i can kind
of relate in the sense like i never know when anything is happening
and i just like i'll just like see someone in a space i'm like oh cool they're all over here now
so i'm i'm like is there some sort of like group chat that i don't know about but
at the same time i'm like trying to keep up with i don't know
yeah i know there's so many.
Oh, that's Darren's thing.
He's like, you're in a group chat with this one.
You're in a group chat.
I'm like, no.
I've never said that to you.
Don't lie.
I've never said that to me.
All right. I'm going to hunt it down.
Well, Darren, why ain't I been added back to the group chat?
What's up with that?
Where am I at?
What am I just...
Because you've been there for two months.
Oh, Darren's the first one throwing people out of chats, right? No, I didn't. This just because for two months oh darren's the first one throwing people out of
chats right no i didn't this one left for two months and he didn't say nothing to me but he's
calling aj and he's calling nomi and he's calling prez and i'm like bro i thought me and you was
close like i didn't even hear from you so yeah you're gonna have to ask me if you want to be
added you you abandoned me for two months reuben all right in my defense
in my defense though i didn't know that you know the like i did give you my number but i thought
it i didn't know that i had to download what's at to interact with people from the uk
well i didn't know that you know i didn't know And not for nothing, we all got a mess going on. We got
WhatsApp, then Instagram, you got messages, Facebook, but by the time everything's done,
you can't get back to anybody. Everybody's cursing you out. So fuck it. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. It's, it's pretty hard. I tried to start, um, cause I had some people hit me up and they
were like, Hey, like your posts aren't showing for me all the time.
And then I miss this and I miss that and I never know what's happening.
So freaking started another group chat.
I started the Mellow Beans group chat.
And it's like another thing that I wish that X would update.
You can't pin messages.
You can't like moderate it in any way.
It's just like this free forfor-all and I'm like
okay but I want this group chat to be used for a very specific purpose and then people leave
because it's not being used for that purpose and I'm like fuck how I can't I can't moderate it
myself every time someone does something that's like yeah it's tough it's tough out here and
oh my god my text messages too.
Like I have so many text messages that I just need to like, I just need to delete everything
and be like, okay, I can breathe.
But yeah, Darren, I love you.
I think that you're doing an incredible job connecting people, staying connected with
people and bringing people together.
And I just, I think of you very
highly. So I hope that you feel that I hope you feel the sincerity when I say that because it's
very true. I think of you very, very highly. And you're just you're an incredible person on this
platform. So I hope that you don't lose too much sleep on these spaces, though, because I know the
time difference. I lived in the UK for a little bit and I know it's tough to keep up with people.
It's really hard.
And I don't keep up.
I don't.
And I get so much FOMO.
I miss out on so many spaces.
And I feel these guys connecting more and more without me.
And it's hard.
It's hard.
And I just hope that those that are close to me can understand
how i'm feeling and just try and make more of an effort to help me feel included that's all that
i'm asking i'm literally putting my heart out in a public space for people to hear where i'm coming
from not being bitchy saying nothing but i know one's back this is me this is my position this is
my situation i hope that those who are truly my friend can actually be a little bit more like,
actually, let's think of Darren here because he's in the UK.
And he can't do the spaces with us at the nighttime.
So let's try and help him feel a bit more included.
That's all that I'm asking.
I don't feel like that's any.
I've been on here for a year with you guys now.
Do you know what I mean?
I, too, understand your feelings, Darren. with you guys now. Do you know what I mean? I too understand
your feelings, Darren.
And we shall reciprocate
because you are a genius
and you have a beautiful voice
and we love you.
You've got a beautiful voice.
I love when Rachel was doing
your accent.
That was making me laugh.
I was like, yeah,
go on, Rachel.
Do you know what?
I was in a funk mood.
I was in a funk.
But when she done that, she took me out of the funk. I was like, yeah, I love that. That was funny. Love you, Rachel. I love you, Rachel. I was in a funk mood. I was in a funk, but when she done that, she took me out of the funk.
I was like, yeah, I love that. That was funny. Love you, Rachel.
Yes.
There.
Yeah. Rachel does a good, good impression.
Yeah. I, I will do my best. I don't, I don't really get to go to a lot of the daytime spaces because
I'm in the studio or working on stuff during the day I usually just end up in the nighttime spaces
but if I'm ever in a daytime space that I that I think you'll be um keen to be in then i will definitely send it you gotta try harder yeah by the way darren uh
i might be saying this preemptively this might be too soon to say anything
but a little birdie told me i might be in the uk sometime soon playing some shows so oh wow really
yeah maybe it's not 100%.
Oh, my God. AJ, can you imagine hearing Melody live?
Actually, he probably does. He flies around everywhere.
He probably heard you live already.
But, yeah, I would love to hear you live. You're amazing.
I've yet to hear a lot, but I might cry if I do because it's legit.
Yeah.
I mean, it would be a really full circle moment for me
to get back to the UK and be playing,
like touring this album there would be really cool
because that's where I, after five or six years
of not writing or performing,
I went to the UK on this little like vision,
sorry, excuse me, on this little, what I like to call a vision quest to go find myself because I,
on the surface, my life looked great. Everything was going well. And I just couldn't figure out
why I was so depressed. And then I went to the UK and I was like, Oh my God, I should be doing music. Like I need
to get back to that. So how long ago was that Mella? Um, that was in 2019. Yeah. So yeah,
I was there for a short period of time. It was like six months. Um, but prior to going to the UK, I was just a hundred percent focused on what I was studying.
I was in school for like five, six years.
I was working in the field that I was studying.
I was moving up the ladder quite quickly.
Like I was doing really well in it, but, um, and like everybody on the surface was like,
oh my God, you got everything together.
You got this apartment, your relationship, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Everything looks so good on the surface.
But I was just like numb, I guess.
Like I just didn't feel happy.
Nothing was kind of making me feel that sense of like fulfillment.
And then I don't know what it was.
I just felt like I have to go far away. I have to go somewhere far, far away. Um, so that I guess because I didn't want anybody in my life to choose to do had to come from me. So if I went far away, then that meant that I had that distance and I could make those
decisions myself.
So I went to the UK on this like study abroad semester.
I was in school technically while I was there, but not a lot of school happened.
Like it was a very laid back situation to say the least when it came
to the schooling that I was doing over there. So I had like nothing but time to just travel and
kind of figure myself out. And yeah, it's like the second I picked up a guitar over there and
just started jamming and playing music again, it was like, oh my God, this is what happiness feels like.
So yeah, and then I got back from the UK.
And one of the first songs that I wrote, I think it was the first song that I wrote when I got back from the UK.
Mind you, I am not going to play you this song because I don't even really remember it because it was so terrible.
But it was called Back to the UK.
And the message of the song was like, basically saying how like what the story was like found
myself there. Everything was better. Like, you know, kind of like this uplifting message of like,
that's where I found my, my hope and my peace and my happiness again. And yeah, that was the very first song I wrote when I got back.
And it would be a really cool full circle moment for me to like make this album
and then go back to the UK and tour it there.
So yeah.
When are you coming?
When are you coming?
What month?
Tell me what month.
If anything, it would be late summer.
Amazing. Yeah. So just keep your eyes peeled it's not a hundred percent certain so please don't get like don't allow your hopes to get up because
i still need to work out the logistics and and figuring out how to actually make this happen
in a way that makes sense um So yeah, it's not 100%,
but I'm kind of manifesting it right now
because I would love that.
Mella, you doing NYC NFT?
NFT NYC?
Man, I don't, I'm going to go.
I think I want to go.
I'm just like,
it's very, very different this year.
Nobody's planning like the things that they planned the past couple years.
Things are not looking the same.
So I don't know if it's because the crypto market has crashed
and NFTs aren't doing well at all right now.
But people just aren't really doing what they did last year or the year before.
But yeah, I mean, if there's other opportunities to perform
like that come up, then absolutely. Like I'll go wherever the music will take me. I will go.
That's that's where I end up. Mello. Yes, Rachel for a huge, huge favor.
Yeah. What's the favor? OK? I like where this is going.
So I invited
Helmel to the space also, by the way.
But today is DJ's
birthday, and I was wondering
if there's any way
that you guys can
sing something for him.
Oh, well, okay.
What we do in my spaces when it's somebody's birthday i didn't even see him down
there i didn't scroll down for him i'm bringing him up but what we do in my spaces when it's
someone's birthday is everybody has to unmute and we're all gonna sing happy birthday at the
exact same time even though it's gonna be chaos i know it's gonna be chaos but it's going to be chaos, I know it's going to be chaos, but it's going to be beautiful chaos.
So, Jonathan, I hope you can hear this.
I see the emojis, so I think that he can.
I need another co-host to bring him up.
Hey, Mella B, you know how long we've been getting Darren to try to sing on Spaces?
So this is going to be one for the books.
My mind is staying closed.
He might be my favorite, but I'm still not breaking that, you know, rule of mind.
I'm not singing.
Come on.
At least when we do this as a group, then nobody will be able to tell who is who.
Right?
That's the way I see it.
He might be busy right now.
It's his birthday, so I'm not going to expect him to come out. He's big.
Oh, there we go.
What up?
Jonathan, happy birthday.
How's it been going?
Happy birthday, Jonathan.
Thank you, guys.
How's your day been?
Great.
It's been really good.
Do you feel taller?
A little bit. Like 69
centimeters maybe.
Perfect height.
Perfect height.
Oh my goodness.
Let's make that millimeters. I didn't grow that much.
Well, guys, it's time.
On the count of three,
we're all going to unmute.
Don't leave me hanging.
Is there room for Helmo?
Oh, shit.
Let's bring up Helmo.
Is it on three or is it after three?
I never see that.
It's going to be a three, two, one countdown.
Help me if you need a mic, Mo.
No, no, no.
I got to figure out.
You're not going anywhere, Rachel.
Get out of here.
To me, it looks like there's room for one more.
Am I tripping?
It won't let me bring him up.
No worries.
Come on, I got you.
I'll drop down for Elmo.
Bro.
He's just about to do the same thing.
Okay.
Ready? Elmo's here. Elmo, are you. We're just about to do the same thing. Okay. Ready?
Helmo's here.
Helmo, are you with us?
Yeah.
Okay, sweet.
All right, everybody.
Three, two, one.
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday to you, Jonathan.
Happy birthday to you.
Are you one? Are you two? Are you three?
Personal information, you can't do that that was beautiful i think that's the best we've ever done
that was really good it was not as distorted as most of them are right
we we used a 454 uh. That's what did it.
Everybody with their different accents.
You guys have a different phone than I do.
That was the closest I've ever sang in public ever.
You actually got me to kind of sing.
I can't believe I actually joined in. That's only because you're my favorite, Jonathan.
You see? Somebody was off key. Was you darren it's probably my uh somebody sounded like i thought i was just smoking something no but helmo actually can sing
yeah that's true um i see we've got prez's hand up. Before we get to the hands, let's repost the space and
get some people in here. It's just going to be a chill space. We can talk about whatever you want.
I was trying to figure out a title and I was like, I don't know, let's talk about it. Let's
figure it out together as a group. But it's just going to be a chill space. Maybe I'll play some
music at some point. If other musicians come in, then they're more than welcome to play as well.
So send this space to your favorite ex-musicians.
And yeah, cool.
Sweet.
Thanks for being here.
What's up, Prez?
Hey, what's up, Mela?
You can go to the next stand if there's another hand if you want.
I just need to kind of process some things a little bit.
Okay.
I want to thank you guys so much for the birthday wishes.
I got to make a phone call.
I'll try to stop back soon.
Happy birthday.
Thank you guys so much.
Happy birthday.
You're pulling the phone call excuse?
Happy birthday to you.
Hey, man, it's his birthday.
You know, it's a lucky phone call.
I know what that phone call is going to.
Oh, my goodness.
Stop it.
All right.
Well, I don't want to be rude.
So I see these hands out.
But I have to say what up to my other co-host here.
Z, how are you?
Thanks for co-hosting.
Mella, you are such an angel, dude.
I love you so much.
You have no idea.
I love you too, Z.
You're the best
And Z why were you trying to wake Mella up at 1.30 in the morning
Okay Mella
That is a lie dude
And you know what it's recorded
It is literally recorded
He was trying to wake you up so late
And I literally told him she has been in the studio
She needs to rest
This was last night
Yeah
I was in the studio how are you guys
gonna wake me up it got fucking weird it got fucking weird you know what's crazy about it
though i probably wasn't sleeping i was probably just after the studio i feel like what the fuck
is that sound oh my god scared me it was a motorcycle outside. So after the studio, because I've been like
listening so intentfully to music, like all day, my brain is exhausted, my voice is exhausted. So
being in spaces is very, very difficult, sometimes depending on the day. And just like being on my
phone too is kind of hard, because then I get tempted to go in spaces and I just kind of, I need a break from the screens. So I've kind of gotten into this healthy habit of just trying to avoid my phone when I get home from the studio.
fucking willpower i have to like i don't know i have to put my phone on the opposite end of the
room and just be like okay it's not there just relax sit back and we were watching super we've
been watching the all the marvel movies so i think last night we watched captain america
so it was pretty cool yeah i love the marvel i love that yeah do you notice a difference mella in like your mental state when you like take a break
from your phone versus like when you're on yeah I think I slow down like I've realized I was saying
this earlier like this space moves so quickly and I think it changes the way we move right like we
all just we move so quickly every single day. Everything's so fast,
fast, fast. And that's why we crave vacations because when you go on vacation, everything's
slow. Everything slows down. And I'm like, I don't need a beach to do that. I just need to be mindful.
I just need to slow myself down. And a lot of the physical injuries that I've endured over the span of my lifetime
has been because I was moving too quickly and I wasn't thinking before I did something.
And then I got hurt.
So I just need to like, yeah, I'm one of those people.
I'm just like really trying to practice slowing the fuck down
and it's working. So yeah, staying off my phone a little bit and breathing and meditation,
music, just sitting with my guitar, playing some stuff, just kind of giving myself some time and
space, you know? Melaby, could I go to Galactica?
Galactica, how you doing?
I haven't seen you up here in a while.
What's going on?
Hi, guys.
Oh, my gosh.
Thank you so much.
Well, first of all, I have to say, Mela, you are amazing.
I've seen you actually in DJ's spaces, and you sing and play,
and congratulations on everything you're doing.
And actually in your
in your quest to find yourself it's one of the toughest journeys that you can do and you did it
right you know you didn't want to be with anyone and you wanted to hear your true voice so
congratulations on that it's really cool um so i got I like the title, let's talk about it, right? And when I came in,
Darren was talking about his softy side, which is really cool. And I have, I have the exact same
experience. I've been doing spaces and I've been supporting a lot of people not because I just
support but because I like it. I love it. I learn and I support and I've been feeling like I'm in
the same boat where people don't support. You know it's tough. It's tough you know when you open spaces and nobody comes or that you talk love and light
and you're criticized or you talk about um the exact same thing you were talking right like you
do your journey and you listen to your voice and you go for it and stuff and then people's just
like oh but you're saying the same thing as other people's doing you know like it's really tough
when you're in an empath when you're talking about
this when you're supporting and you don't get the same support or for example you know you are in
the same spaces with people and they never include you you know because I think that I'm experiencing
that as I talk to you and this group right um? So I just wanted to share it to the world, to be honest with you.
And my intention is not to get it back, to, you know, to get attention or, you know,
likes or clicks or, yeah, I'm going to go now.
But I just wanted to say that a lot of us, I think, are looking for the tribe, you know,
whether it's music, whether it's spirit, whether it's science, politics and everything.
And that we should open our hearts and be, you know, the same that we ask for, being able to give it back.
Because, you know, like I've heard huge spaces when they're talking about this and there's huge spaces.
But then when you see small spaces and you see the same people that support you, you never, you know, or you get, in my case, I get the sensation that people doesn't really pay attention to your voice when you're small.
Unless you have 10,000 followers, right,
or a big space. So I just wanted to share that, you know, there, and you're not alone. I'm also
an empath, and I also have my 3D, my tenderness, you know, and it's tough. I get you, I get you.
And Mela, please continue doing what you're doing your voice is amazing I love your space
this is the first time I come here and AJ thank you so much for your words thanks everyone in the
panel yeah everybody follow Galactica she's actually a channel and very one of the most
knowledgeable people on all of X and you know if you're really the most knowledgeable person on X
and you're that you're probably going to be lost because it's easier to go with the politics and some of that stuff you
know politics is like the new religion it's like moral superiority type of
thing so it's like a religion type of thing nothing wrong with it there's
mental stimulus in arguing politics there's nothing wrong with it however
it's spaces like these where you start talking about the mysteries of this
reality that can help you in your day-to-day life and I think that's what's more important and that's what's important about mella in her day-to-day
life she's following her passion you could take all the knowledge in the world from all the
ancient civilizations and it will not matter one bit unless you're using it right now in this
moment to follow your passion and excitement and that's i agree it's all about. I agree, AJ. Thank you so much. And thank you so much for that.
I really appreciate, you know,
I think every one of us is in a, in a,
in a journey and a quest to find ourselves,
which is really, really cool.
And what you're saying is totally, completely, you know, true.
We're reading and we're discussing and we're, you we're talking about ancient and history and stuff,
but we're not putting it to work, right? I agree. So thank you. Thank you again.
Can I please, Melody and AJ, just share back to Galactica she did kind of share back from me so i appreciate that and i just
wanted to kind of just clear something up here um i i wasn't criticizing like people who call love
and like right i appreciate it like i i was that person that yeah i took on the whole spiritual
community why because there were certain people that i was experiencing like this passive aggressive I was that person that, yeah, I took on the whole spiritual community.
Why? Because there were certain people that I was experiencing,
like this passive aggressive nature or people were calling me low vibrational and all of that kind of stuff.
So I called it out.
I took a hit for that because like you said, like you're like,
oh, calling love and light and people getting criticized.
I've watched you.
I see that you can flow in different
spaces so I appreciate that I just try to help people not spiritually bypass it's as simple as
that so I need to kind of like put it into context I won't really be doing it too much more now
because I recognize that you say certain things in these kind of groups and even if your intention
is good and even if you're trying to help people
just expand their consciousness people are going to hear it their own way and people are going to
get triggered and then when they get triggered they're going to say that that to someone else
do you understand and then me being the person who says it i'm the one who's the big bad person
right so i just needed to kind of express that next thing aj after all this time i've waited
for that message and that
response please don't just respond to me with a bloody heart emoji can i actually have an answer
please yeah that's all that's all thank you lovely space i love it i love it i really do like you and
i never took it as you were against me or anything i I heard you and so many people talk about the yeah,
the love on life this and shake and whatever, but not... What I bring that up is that in honest truth,
people hear what they want to hear and nobody has control on what the discernment people is going to use to decipher what you're saying.
So I have no responsibility on how people take that, right?
Now, if I'm coming with, you know, like live stuff, let's say, let's talk about Melo, right?
She had this incredible probably sadness or depression or you know she wanted to
look for her her journey and it was tough and it was probably alone and and i don't i cannot even
imagine but it was tough it was you know to to destroy something to build again and that for me
is light and that's what the light the love and light that
i that i speak about is not because you're in the middle of the candy store saying i love you
no it's is to choose you know what you're gonna do with what you want to do in and and that's
the perspective maybe we should use other words i don't know I love the love and light you know
it's just it's very it's happening and I'm glad that we're talking there and because yeah it was
not against um you or any specific but there was groups and and I don't know if you have seen me
every time there is a drama I am never there. Never. Never there.
Because I don't like it.
I don't engage in that.
I don't talk about it.
I don't.
I don't lose my time on that.
But I like this kind of spaces where we hear a lot of people talking with so much information and experiences.
And we learn.
We learn.
I love that.
So I just wanted to bring that
to the table because i like that let's talk about it title mellow so thank you
i just wanted to
sorry aj go ahead no i just want to say thank you galactica and darren darren i answered you
say thank you galactica and darren darren i answered you i know i'm so honored i'm i'm
privileged guys he actually responded to my dm oh my god oh my god i listen i i hate it i call my
phone away i don't even answer my phone i'm gonna i'm gonna start ripping you like like don't don't
lose your head aj i see i get so popular i will be that one to bring you back down to Earth.
Just know that, yeah?
Shit, Darren's the fucking reckoning.
Seriously, that is me.
But you know who the real Truth Reaper is on this space dance?
Sir Escanor, the Truth reaper down there, killing people.
He is blowing up people left and right.
Escanor, get your ass up here.
He doesn't stop swearing.
Why doesn't he stop swearing?
Escanor?
Yeah.
He's real.
When it's real, it's coming out like that.
That's it.
You're just getting that.
Listen, he called out every fake influence out here, destroyed them.
People who are out here grifting, people who are out here messing around and messing with people's minds.
And Eskimo went out there and actually shut down their accounts.
And I'm like, holy shit.
I mean, he's dark as a motherfucker, but he is really working for the light because he's calling people out that nobody has the balls to call out.
I appreciate that, man.
He's got so much knowledge.
I heard him in a few spaces.
I was like, wow.
When you get past the swearing, I'm like, oh, my God, this dude knows so much.
It's like, yeah, yeah, I do.
Escanar, you're amazing.
He took out Donnie Darkin. Escanar, remember I sent you that video. He took out Donnie Darkin.
Escanar, remember I sent you that video?
He took out Donnie Darkin.
That was great.
Donnie's there preaching.
Oh, my God.
I don't even want to get into it.
Was Prez, were you before Josh or was Josh first?
I see both of you guys.
I think it was Margot.
And nobody ever came back to it.
Oh, my gosh.
I don't even see your hand.
I was actually supposed to be the first person to go,
and then I just let Galactica go.
But you guys can do whatever.
I'm chilling.
Yeah, it was Prez, and then it was supposed to be me,
and then I got skipped.
Really, Joshua?
All right.
Let's go battle, Prez, and then Josh.
Yeah, I was going to say a long time ago that, you know, Daryl, man, you know, I've met you a long time ago in spiritual spaces.
You know what I'm saying?
We was talking about consciousness and all kinds of good stuff.
consciousness and all kinds of good stuff and um you know that's kind of my foundation like you
daryl bridget uh miriam at the time uh you know we know we know in it yeah yeah suzy you know um
and i was gonna say suzy might be a good person for mellow mellow be to meet you know i'm saying
because of the music industry yeah yeah because she helped me out. I mean, she helped me out big time.
Like, seriously, big time.
Susie's very connected.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's just in the audience.
Who, Susie in the audience?
Yeah, I only really see Susie in the audience.
I never really see her come up on stages that much here.
No, she don't speak on X.
She only, you know, but we talk, you know,
like, you know, we talk on the phone or whatever like that.
But but yeah.
And she's a very sound, spiritual, like, you know, like she's very, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
But but yeah, I was gonna say, Daryl, man, you know, I mean, Daryl, you know, we are.
Man, I've been knowing you for a while, man.
And one thing I can say is that you've always been the same way.
You know what I mean?
Like, for real, for real.
Like, you have not changed.
In my opinion, you haven't changed.
You know, it's just the environment is different over here.
Like, at clubhouses, a lot, you know, it was some wild stuff going on.
But it tended to be less filth on that platform.
But the switch over to X, man, it was just totally different, man.
That's where I saw a lot of people fall off that used to be in spiritual spaces kind of fall off because it's kind of like it's harder to hide over here.
You know what I mean? For some reason. And, you know, things just start being exposed.
And and and I can just say, man, the core people that I met over there that I can still, you know, we all still follow each other, but I can say that these people are just genuine, the same
the same genuine
dope people that I've always met.
You know what I'm saying? And that's something that
I really respect.
You know what I'm saying? Because, you know,
in battle rap culture, you can't
get away with switching up too much.
You know,
work against you. You know what I'm saying?
So I love the authenticity, man, that I believe that you,
not only that you kind of bring, but you actually attract a lot of that.
You know what I'm saying? You open up a lot of good spaces or, you know,
you even, you know, there's a certain stuff that you, you know,
that you do, man, that you, you,
you'll get certain people to come up and speak, you know what I'm saying? And to me, I think that's a gift because, you know, that you do, man, that you'll get certain people to come up and speak.
You know what I'm saying? And to me, I think that's a gift because, you know, my energy is a little different.
You know, I need buffers.
I need buffers to control things because I don't have that, you know,
where you show a little bit more kind of leeway to some people,
you know what I mean, because you don't like conflict.
And that's one thing I do know, you know what I'm saying?
Whereas, you know, I'm always here for it, you know.
You know, but that's the part that I believe that makes you kind of dope
because, you know, like, look, man, everybody ain't up here to fight.
You know what I mean?
And I've seen you fight for people.
I've seen you fight for yourself.
I've seen you fight for others.
You know, and that's one thing I do respect.
And more so than just fighting for people, you are a person that I've seen try to keep the peace more than anything.
So I appreciate that, my brother.
And, you know, even with me, you know,
sometimes, you know, I can get a little turnt up.
I might need, hey, hey, you know,
and I'll calm down because it's you saying it
because I know you.
And I trust that it's coming from a good place.
So even I can take criticism from you because I respect you.
So, all right, my brother, that's all I got to say, man.
Wow, that was a lovely compliment coming from Battle Rapper.
I don't hear him really compliment people that much like that.
So that just shows the length of time we've known each other
coming from that other platform and then coming here yeah
like i haven't changed and i feel like i fit in here more because that fiery side of me is able to
be unleashed when people need to feel that heat do you know what i mean because there are certain
people on there that need to feel that heat and i'm a leo i i like it i trust me i like unleashing
it so i couldn't really do that on Clubhouse, but I love it here.
So, yeah, that's why I feel like I fit in more.
Well, I appreciate you, man.
I just know that, you know, I've seen a lot of different fights that people have had.
And I say that, you know, just for myself, you know, because I value loyalty, you know what I'm saying?
Because I deal with real people.
And I just say as far as loyalty goes, my bro, it was some it was kind of like an adjustment that came with here.
Because, you know, when you're a genuine person you you're being real and then all of a
sudden you find out like bam like nothing was ever real on that other side it was kind of like
it's just an information form you know what i'm saying so adjusting to that kind of thing i i
truly understand that kind of betrayal factor it's kind of hard to, you know, it is what it is, man.
We all go through it.
But, hey, man, one day at a time, my brother, I just say that, you know,
even before we was on this app, you know, I could say that you were still checking in.
Not saying you had to check in, but I'm saying you were still,
we were still checking up on each other.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, and to me, you know, like others up here, too, like Bridget, same way, you know, just, you know, genuine people who genuinely care about people.
So I say that it's some people up here that are genuine people, man. And and I consider you one of them. And that's what I consider this, you know, this real valuable, especially on an app like this, bro.
So, you know, everybody go through it, man.
Sometimes, you know, you take a couple punches.
But, you know, if I'm ever in a space and, you know, I ain't gonna let nobody jump you.
So all I can say is that.
Oh, no, man.
And that betrayal thing is real.
Like, when you said that, I know what I've been having to process.
It's been a shock, Battle Rapper.
And you know what I'm saying.
It's been a shock.
And I don't think people really realize the depth of what we're feeling.
Do you know what I mean?
And then it kind of trickles down into other people.
I've literally been saying all week, I don't know who I can trust.
I don't know who I can trust.
And me and you know where that core comes from, Battle Rapper.
So that's all that I'm going to say. But yeah, I'm going to shut up. I know who I can trust. And me and you know where that core comes from, Battle Rapper. So that's all that I'm going to say.
But yeah, I'm going to shut up.
I know you've got hands.
Your $100 giveaway to Melody's Patreon.
Melody, could you put the Patreon in the top?
Whoever signs up for it, $100 giveaway.
$100 giveaway.
Melody Patreon.
AJ will be giving away five thousand dollars in bitcoin
i'll make up some random ewok nft or something and give you five thousand dollars of it
do you program your um smart contract yourself what do you mean i'm sorry say that again like
um like you know because i program nfts right so that again. Like, like, you know, cause I program NFTs, right?
So that's why I was asking when you say you do NFTs, do you,
do you program your smart contract for your NFT yourself?
No, you know, I really, I don't know anything about NFTs. I'm really,
I'm really old school when it comes to investing.
Everybody in this world has been lied to, you know,
my backgrounds in finance economics accounting.
And the bottom line is I believe everyone's been lied to. My background is in finance, economics, accounting. And the
bottom line is I believe everyone's being lied to. You're being told to kind of trade and stuff
like that, but that's not how money works or builds. You got a dollar cost average in certain
investments. And then you got to understand compound interest. I say it over and over again,
like a broken record. But if you want to master, you want to get a hold of this 3D reality,
you got to do what the big money guys do. And they don't trade, they accumulate. And they accumulate things like, for example, Amazon makes 80 billion a quarter. When Amazon goes down, you got to buy it. You know what I mean? I walk in my house to a Mount Everest of packages, like Amazon packages. And my wife is funny.
She's like, you know, Melissa, she's got a shopping problem.
You know, Lauren, she's a shopaholic.
Meanwhile, I just climbed over a goddamn mountain every size of Amazon packages.
I'm fucking sweating.
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, they got a suspending problem, but not you.
Of course not.
Of course not.
That was just my therapy.
That was just my therapy.
Sorry, guys, but I'll land there.
Sorry, guys.
I'll land there.
I think...
Okay, you guys, I'm sorry because I can't see all the hands.
I think Prez is next.
I think it was Prez, Josh, Spiritual, Orchid, and is there anyone else that I can't see?
Prez has been next since the 80s, man.
Prez, you are so patient.
God bless you, man.
It's all good. You know, I was in a communication space that I was invited to by Sherry. Y'all go
check out the ladies' locker room. If y'all ain't familiar, they usually have dope spaces.
And I remember, you know, one of the points I brought up was in terms of listening.
There's a listening to react.
There's a listening to respond.
And then, you know, the added layer I added was being able to listen to understand.
And there's a reason why I went to the other hands first, because I knew before I said anything, it was good for me to just listen.
because I knew before I said anything, it was good for me to just listen
because that was just my way of exercising discernment and wisdom
in order to know how I should, you know, speak accordingly, I guess.
But the reason why I put my hand up originally
is because Mela had mentioned about, what was it, ancestry and diet, right?
And I think that kind of also goes into blood types.
And that was something we just talked about in Rachel's space.
There's a guy named Peter D'Adamo.
I don't know if I'm pronouncing his last name correctly.
And by the way, like his stuff wasn't really fully validated with the scientific community so take
what i'm saying with a grain of salt but i think in terms of just like research purposes maybe you
might find it interesting mella but he talks about the different diets and you can have designated
diets based on your ancestry and your blood type right and so I found that to be interesting. And then like when we talk about like
the higher galactic beings too,
apparently there's like diets based on that.
So like if you know you have,
I don't know, like Pleiadian DNA
or you're part of the angelic.
So if you're part of whatever,
there's certain things
that are actually supposed to be good for that.
Now, again, I don't know how accurate that that is but that's just something that i heard from but yeah dr pita damo i think yeah if you got time mella you can tap in and see his research and
see how it applies or if it doesn't apply but yeah just wanted to offer that because you mentioned
that early on in the space cool yeah and if you have anything you can post up top, that way everybody can check it out or into the purple pill.
That'd be sick. Thanks, man.
I think it's really cool to think about that kind of stuff.
And does that mean that I'm fully like altering my entire lifestyle and diet to be in accordance with it?
No, I don't do that. I mean, like, maybe I should, I feel like I've
found a good place with balance that things are working out for me. But yeah, I just like,
I like talking about it, because sometimes people are like, really, really struggling with,
you know, adverse reactions to food, whether it be just like symptomatic or
just like energetic like lack of energy is like a huge huge problem amongst so
many people and it's like well maybe we got to go more to the source you know
so I think it's a good thing to think about sweet yeah if there's anything you can post up top that'd be cool
um anybody have any ideas z aj anybody have a idea about the order of the hands here
yeah i think it was going to be josh and then spiritual and then orchid those are the only
hands i see though okay yeah i see battle wrappers hands up too okay um josh what's up oh you know just
swinging life away in the hammock just loving life in mexico in mexico it's cold today ironically
you don't think it's like you know it's perspective perception right or perspective is the right word
like we had like seven days of like 101 degrees
and now it's 80 degrees and you're like huh didn't think 80 degrees would be cold but here i am but
i don't know um enough of me complaining about my hot warm weather i bet you meli beat just had
snow the other day like everybody else that i keep hearing yeah, I was surprised when you said, oh, that was a motorcycle behind me.
I'm like, no, it's not.
It's a snowmobile.
It's nice out today.
Yeah, what is it, seven degrees?
Yeah, like five.
Yeah, I know.
We're going to die coming back.
We come back on the 22nd.
But anyways, yeah, I was going to say,
yeah, we do seasonal eating in Canada.
And we find that's a very good benefit for eating.
And when we come, when we came to Mexico, we're like, oh, yeah, it's just like whenever you go on a holiday trip and stuff.
You're like, yeah, you're always going to get sick of some sort.
And I do believe you're right.
You're just not used to the bacteria.
And once again, everybody got sick the first week or two that we got here.
We just ate the food.
We're like, yeah, you know what?
We're not even going to care.
We're just going to eat whatever we want.
But once you're over it, you're done.
You're good.
So that's going on that.
Eat protein.
Lots of protein.
Protein's king.
Unless you're a vegan, then I got nothing else for you but um yeah i don't
know i i'm very keen on the protein thing um yeah clean eating uh fish oil stuff like that stuff
that grandma wants you to eat that you probably don't like but you swallow the frog first and then
enjoy your sweets after um yeah uh that's about that for food.
What do we got here?
Oh, Darren, Darren.
Yes, you remind me of a story with Jesus
and not the dear eight pound, six ounce newborn infant Jesus
that don't know a word yet.
You can look up that.
That's a quote.
It's more or less of people hating on you or giving you like the
diss and all that. I'm used to it. They killed Jesus over what he was saying. You know, I think
you're in a good place here in X. I love you. You're a good person. And people need to spread the love more often.
I got to give everyone else here some love too.
So just by showing up here and just giving your love to people, it's great.
And I even put into this little, what is it?
That little thing.
I made a, what do you call those things?
Oh, a newsletter.
That's right.
A newsletter about LSD.
And I think all of you would have a really good time reading it.
I'm at a grade three level of reading because I had a concussion years ago,
which I think gives me the leading edge of getting understandment for words.
So that's going to be a good read. I think
everyone's going to love it. If you want, you can sign up. I'm not trying to sell anything here.
I just want to like, you know, share some of my stuff with you. And yeah, you're all loved.
I love you. Melody, keep up the singing. Keep up the great work and uh yeah aj my daughter really wants to do uh
your impression so bad we swear she's from new york like even the speech pathologist was like
is your son born in boston and your daughter was from new york because i'm not understanding their
accents so you're yeah we'll have to sit you on the phone to each other. She'll go, hey, I'm walking here. Anyways, love you guys.
I got to get going and start writing.
Forget about it.
Forget about it.
Yeah, Liv, you come here.
Yeah, I want to hear this.
Please.
Yeah, come here.
Do your New York accent there.
Hey, I'm walking here.
Oh, my God.
Oh, too cute
That is the best
Alright, what do you guys say to everyone?
Okay, man, that's not a New York accent
You got any more for them?
No? Okay
Alright
What's the name?
Thank you, sweetie
That made my day
I love you
Oh my god, that was amazing All right. What's the name? Thank you, sweetie. That made my day. I love you.
Oh, my God. That was amazing.
She's good at that.
Very good.
Yeah, I just posted what she does to us when she grabs her phone secretly.
You'll absolutely love it.
And she puts filters on her faces.
And it's like, dude, really?
Even the poor tent or the waiter had to have a filter on his face, too. You'll love it.
That's so funny. When you were talking about LSD, you were like, I'm at like a grade three.
I thought you were going to be like, I'm like a grade three on LSD. I was like, wait, what?
I was like, wait, what?
Also, there's a funny, I don't know what to call it, but in the music world, LSD stands
for lead singer disorder.
So I often get told that I have LSD.
So it is what it is.
It's just a part of a job, but I don't know.
What are you doing?
Melody, what are you doing in the studio?
Are you like bossing people around?
Do you know like the studio are you like bossing people around yeah i mean like the basis and everything yeah lead singer disorder is like when yeah you're like bossy or you're like no it's got to be like this you're a bit of a diva you're a bit of a diva
oh darren has that we know darren has lead disorder. I'm a bit of a diva.
I mean, I don't think there's anything wrong with knowing what you want
and knowing what you like and asking for what you want with your music
or your performance.
I don't think there's anything wrong with that, right?
I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Tell them, Ella.
Yeah, man, preach.
Mind you, I would not be that person that fires someone over
not picking through my m&ms like there's certain artists out there that are like i only want green
m&ms in my green room like in the backstage room like i have to have only green m&ms and their
manager has to go through and pick through every single fucking m&m and just get the green ones if
there's a red one in there fired so like there's that kind of level diva or I wouldn't really call it diva to be like a person
that, you know, you know what you want, you know what you need and you, you ask for it and you ask
nicely for it. And you know, especially when you're, when you're paying people to be doing
something like you gotta, you gotta be a bit of a boss ass bitch sometimes.
Right. At least I think so.
One hundred percent. Remember, you're the talent. You're the talent. Remember that.
Yeah, it gets tough. I used to.
I used to, there's been a lot of female artists that are like, yeah, it's hard to work in
a room full of men because you don't, your voice kind of gets like muffled out a little
bit.
And I used to think, does that happen?
But I've seen it happen now and I'm like, okay, I guess it is kind of true.
But I think that there's lessons to be learned in there.
Like you can teach yourself.
It is definitely doable to teach yourself how to be a
person that says, no, you're not speaking over me. Like, I'm going, you're like, if I'm speaking,
you're not talking over me. Like, I'm, you know, getting a point across or like,
if someone talks down to me in a certain situation, I've learned how to stick up for myself. Whereas before I would
totally be the type of person that like just like cowers away. So I've learned how to stick
up for myself. I think it comes with time and with age and just like being in being put in those
situations, I think is a really good thing because it teaches people how to, you know, stand up and just kind of use their voice more.
So, yeah.
Dude, I'm so glad you brought that up.
Like, it's so true.
Like, I feel like I can only speak to, like, music
because I haven't been in like other industry situations but like when you are a female and
you are in a room full of men who you know they are not necessarily going to take you seriously
or listen to what you have to say for the simple fact that you're a female and you might have
the best ideas like you might have incredible ideas or you might have a vision of how you want your art to look
but for the simple fact of you're a girl these like there are people out there who will just
not respect you not listen to you so it's like but and you don't think it would be a thing you're
like no it's not like there's no way people are that like like that but it really does happen so
I'm so glad that you said that and brought awareness to it because it is really something that like, I feel like with women in any field, like we just need to know how to like
stand up for ourselves. This ain't the 1950s. Come on. What is that? I think it's just like a
first instinct thing. So like people aren't really aware that they're doing it. I'll give you an
example. There was, I hate using this example, guys,
don't hold this against anybody because it's literally just not intended. But if I've been
in the room where I'm working with a bunch of people and I'm the only female and I, I give an
idea and instead of talking to me about the idea, they turn their head and they talk to the other,
like the other guys in the room about the idea instead of turn their head and they talk to the other, like the other
guys in the room about the idea instead of like responding to me. And I'm like, but I was the one
that just said that, like, why aren't you speaking to me? Like, why aren't we having this discussion
here? And I didn't really like understand it at first, but I think the key is not taking it
personally because it isn't personal. Like it actually is not personal.
It's literally just like a first instinct thing where, you know, they, they're going to talk to
the people that they feel most comfortable with just like you would as well. Right. If you were
in a room full of females and there's one dude there, you're going to like be all chitty chatty
with your other girls. Right. Like it's the exact same thing. We all do it. But learning to not take it personal is step one. Step two is
shutting it down real quick. Like the very, very first time it happens, you have to be like, hey,
I'm over here. Like you have to put that tendency in its place real quick because if you don't if you let it go on for
weeks if you if you record the whole album and then at the end you're like oh my god i'm unhappy
with this i should have said something then that's not their fault that's your fault
in my life can i say something about what you're saying um oh my god this this is a topic it's it's
it's 100 a reality and especially if you are beautiful um because for some reason um
in in in a regular basis men either get in a in a funny way or nervous, you know, and then they cannot really, you know, sometimes take
seriously a girl that looks so good that has this amazing persona and personal, they're like
nervous. But what I've been, you know, like bringing to the table is as you you know like you have to stop it right there
when it happens is the the the you know the the control the respect um you know from female to
men and men to women in equal uh in equal balance you know um it's not like a girl if it's beautiful stupid and even if
she is you know she deserves respect and in the same as women to men you know and it's been this
long time battle in between the sexes right oh if she's beautiful she's this this this this and
that right like this is the list of things that they believe they're true.
And then the same as us, you know, women, oh, if he is handsome, this, this, this is a list.
And what I've learned here in this country, which I love, been more than 20 years, is that the dating scene is a game, you know?
So then there is these rules of not only professional relationships,
but also the dating relationships that are so crazy full of rules and games.
And that, you know, at the end of the day, people is not really knowing each other.
They're kind of playing games.
I don't know if that fits what you were saying,
but it would be cool that all the beautiful women
and all the women that don't care about, you know, beauty, whatever,
you know, all of us, and men as well,
just start saying, you know what,
what if I treat the other sex in a different way,
more respectful, more friendly, more without judgment, you know,
to hear what, because at the day of,
at the end of the day, we're different, but that's the beauty, right, and professionally,
we've been kind of fighting for, for that, for that space, so you're right, Melody, and, and, oh my gosh,
I'm loving it, I'm gonna drop down as a listener, I mean, I oh my gosh, I'm loving it. I'm going to drop down as a listener.
I mean, I have to bounce.
I have to support all the friends.
But I'm going to be, you know, jumping to Jonathan's face and maybe singing a little as well.
So hopefully see you there.
And I'm just going to drop as a listener.
You saw me in action.
I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you.
What?
I'm the best matchmaker
On this app
So I'm going to find you somebody Galactica
Oh my god me
I've been married for 23 years
Oh my bad
What are you saying then
You're talking about dating
You're talking about
The games that the dating world's playing
Because I have a lot of friends and i hear you
sorry i hear you talk and and and i i hear this trouble with my friends and you know with
with my own son and and your friends and friends of friends and and it's just like wow you know
this is a huge topic that's why people so long you know and and you know it shouldn't be like that you know it would be
more relaxed just chill out be honest be you and go you know be respectful have fun you know meet
people you know that's what i talk about and i don't know i just was just inspired i think it
all i love what oh go ahead oh sorry oh shit we're gonna love what... Oh, go ahead, Z. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. Oh, shit. We're going to fight for this now.
Z, go ahead.
Yeah, don't fight, don't fight.
No, I was just going to say, I'm glad that she said that because, like, I feel like when
the genders honor each other and come together, like, society is going to be so much stronger.
And I feel like the genders fighting each other right now is so purposeful.
Like, it's literally being like spoon
fed to us, like, through social media, through media, through all this different stuff. Like,
teaching, yeah, teaching you that the other sex is bad, and that you should hate them. And that
it's men versus women, which is fucking stupid. Like, we're literally made it together to work
as a team. And when we come together together we're super fucking powerful like in community in
relationship and friendship and family we are way more powerful powerful working together and so I
just see it as another thing that is being used to like divide people but I'm so sorry no no no
but you know what you're right it's it's kind of like man-made is is this agenda of of the you know
the sexes against each other and then then the lgbtq right
like and all that stuff like we shouldn't be really you know paying attention to those things
you know some people have their own thing and they're happy like that so who cares but the
thing is at the end of the day to to um to see that then then the family you that the family is being destroyed and then men versus women
and then gays versus women or men.
It's just too much.
I don't think the regular folk really thinks that way.
But you see so much that you, at the end of the day, get touched about that.
We get frustrated.
We get these ideas and we start thinking so wait
a minute so it's really life like that you know and and no you're right ste and i'm glad that
you're actually in the same boat i'm with you i saw your your fists and your 100 and your laughs
and you're like yeah we're not alone yeah i think it's so. Like the thing that the thing that I try to embody and try to like share with people is that like honoring our differences.
So I think Z was touching on this, like there are significant differences between how I communicate and how my fiance Dakota communicates, right?
But we have a happy, healthy, successful relationship because we honor each other's different communication styles.
And we have learned how to coexist in a healthy way that doesn't try to change each other, but instead
tries to find like a middle ground, right? And if everybody did that, you know, like, I don't need,
I don't need to be treated differently. Like, I don't want special treatment because I'm a woman. I don't want that. I don't
want someone to tell me, well, I'm going to give you this opportunity for the sheer fact that
you're a woman. I don't want that. I want to be given opportunities or I want to be taken
seriously because I'm good at what I do. I think that's like, that's most valuable to me is
like, I want to prove myself just like everybody else, just like men. And, you know, everybody's
always have to, they always have to prove themselves in the workplace and music and
business and everything that we do. We always have to prove ourselves, right? And I don't think that it makes sense to, you know, just suddenly throw that at the window because this person, that person,
this person, that person, we're treated unfairly. Well, they were treated unfairly because of the
simple fact that we haven't learned how to honor each other's differences. And honoring someone's
differences, just like I said with me and Dakota, that didn't mean that I had to sacrifice who I am as a person to make him more comfortable or
sacrifice who he as a person to make him more comfortable we had to make no sacrifices in fact
we became more comfortable in who we were because we allowed each other to be that and embody that and to honor that.
Right. So if we can kind of translate that over into the workplace, into the music industry,
into all these different facets of the world, I think it would be a better place.
But I don't know if that made any sense.
But I don't know if that made any sense.
It does.
I'm going to say, you know, I've been in studios since 1988.
You know what I'm saying?
And, you know, just as a young'un, you know, 10 years old, you know hip-hop groups in virginia uh they got put on
um kind of like you know were my mentors in this particular game or whatever like that but i'll
just say this the studio um the studio culture has changed you know'm saying? Because it's like, because of, because of how much goals
involved in, you know, how much they take from artists and how it used to be set up.
It was in a, in a way that it was just predatory, you know, just because of the nature of the
business, you know? So that's why a lot of not only women but just artists in general were getting
taken advantage of you know i'm saying because um you know because a lot of people didn't realize
that sometimes fame is a trap right and a lot of these poor artists who got put on didn't understand
that they could be trapped by their own fame because of the way that culture is set up
you know and the way that society and class is um in america so when you know you just hit it big
all of a sudden all of a sudden you you need security you need you need this and that and it
puts the artist needing people you know it this artist needs now he needs these kind of producers now he needs
these marketers and money had to come out of you know and a lot of people didn't understand but
nowadays because of blockchain technology and stuff like that man artists are starting to figure out
that their fans can be their fan base,
can be their record company.
You know what I'm saying?
And now they're starting to really understand, you know,
how to utilize an NFT.
That's why I was asking you who does your smart contracts
for your NFTs because it's all in the smart contract.
Like everything's in the smart contract.
How the NFT look uh how it
can be scanned to utilize to go to this access place to this ticket to this airbnb everything
you know can be included in that particular contract which gives the artists the the power
to control the venue the event all the tickets and gives the fans the the power to
say that you cannot censor the artists that i love because we control it you know i'm saying so and
it gives them the incentive to to make money because with with nfts you know certain certain
fans because they're fans they get these
products early just like in the sneaker game sneaker heads you know they get access to these
sneakers real early and that's how they make their money you know what i'm saying that's the flip
you know um but with the music and the nfts and the way the things and the culture is shifting
artists are going to have so much power because of these
grassroots
ways that they can build their fan base
through NFTs that, you know,
their fans are going to be
making money and they're going to be making money.
And only people they're going to have an answer
to are the people that love them.
And that's going to put not only
art in a great space, that's going to put
everybody in a great space. So that's why, you know, that's going to put not only art in a great space, that's going to put everybody in a great space.
So that's why, you know, that's why I want to really say that, you know, y'all, you're you're I can see you moving in that real good space.
And I understand what you're saying, because I got daughters that are coming up and they are in entertainment you know stage plays and and you know they're getting
asked to appear here and there and and i'm a monster you know i'm saying like they know like
i would eat you alive here because of my baby so don't play with me so um but yeah it's like i know
the business so no you're not gonna take advantage of none of my
children are they gonna get all their ip they control they're gonna control all their branding
and everything you know um because i know so yeah there you go that's all i gotta say no that's
awesome and like you bring up a good point it's not the music industry is a very unique, I think it's like almost like the Wild West. Like, there's no,
there are regulations, I guess. But the music industry, honestly, it's like operating in its
own little world. And the labels have gotten away with for a very long time, they've gotten away with selling people on, like, the dream, right?
We're going to give you access to these producers.
You're going to have this photo shoot.
You're going to have this music video.
We're going to make you a star.
You're going to be on TV.
You're going to be on billboards and that to a young artist that is
like oh my god I just I love writing music I love performing all they see is stars they're like oh
my god I'm gonna be a star I'm gonna be massive my dreams are coming true and I get that. I totally get how that can happen. And people get burned so quickly because the second you sign that contract, that's it. That's it.
What people also don't realize is there's a difference between a lawyer and an entertainment attorney.
attorney. Okay. Entertainment attorneys know the difference between a good contract and a bad
contract. And there's no handbook on this stuff. So a lot of artists don't even realize that there
are entertainment attorneys out there. Or, you know, you got to get a good one too. You got to
got to have one that's experienced that's looked at many contracts before and can tell the difference
have one that's experienced, that's looked at many contracts before and can tell the difference.
um so yeah it's just this very nuanced like experience in business because when you are
the business like you as a person are the business and someone tells you all of a sudden you owe them
six albums and they're going to control what songs make it onto those albums they're going to control
the order of the songs they're going to control what you look like in the photos they're going to control what songs make it onto those albums. They're going to control the order of the songs.
They're going to control what you look like in the photos.
They're going to control the music videos.
And suddenly some young girl is being told,
okay, so this is the outfit you're going to wear,
and it's showing half her coochie and her tits are out.
And, oh, by the way, we're going to dye your hair blonde,
and you're going to change your voice, actually.
We like it when you sing.
You know that part of the song where you kind of changed into this little girl voice?
You're going to change how you sing.
You're going to sing like that instead because that's going to sell more records.
Things start to get scary when that happens because these industry people, they know what
will sell commercially.
They know what will sell.
So they're going to push those artists in that direction. Those artists have now signed a contract. They basically feel like they have to. And sometimes they've been fronted a bunch of
money and they've been like put in this position of feeling like they owe them like oh but they gave me x amount
of dollars I owe them this I owe them that it's so scary I can I can only imagine I can only imagine
and to lose like creative control as well to lose like the thing that you love now became a chore
and not only is it a chore but there's going to be several people on your shoulder telling you exactly how you have to make that chore look and sound and everything.
So, yeah, I can totally understand how things go south and things end up in a bad situation.
But now we're in this really unique period where the music industry has significantly changed. Like Battle Rapper said, it has significantly changed.
Like Battle Rapper said, it's significantly changed.
A lot more independent artists.
Like so many more.
To the point that the industry folks were like, oh shit.
We gotta get some of that.
Like there's people blowing up and they have millions and millions
of listeners and they don't have a label so we gotta get some of that we want a piece of that pie
but now the leverage is not in the label's hands with those artists the leverage is in the artist's
hands and that's what all these independent artists are trying to do. They're all like, okay, I can do this on my own.
I can do this on my own.
I'm going to build my own fan base.
My fan base is basically my label because a label is basically just a bank that's loaning
you money, but it's a bank with connections.
That's where I kind of get like a lot of people talk about doing things independently to the point of saying no to
literally everybody's help because they're afraid of being burned.
And that's where I think things get complicated because some people aren't going to burn you.
There are some people out there that genuinely can help you and you have to find this balance you have to have a
radar you have to have a bullshit radar and that takes time to develop right so yeah I just think
it's tough because like now these independent artists are in a position where they have to
maintain everything they're wearing all of the hats And I know what that feels like to wear all of the hats.
And it's fucking terrifying.
It's a lot of work.
I can only imagine what that work would look like
when I have millions of followers.
That would be very overwhelming.
So I think it's mostly about, like nowadays,
it's about building your own team.
Instead of, I've been the artist that's like,
I don't need a team, I can do it all myself.
But I think nowadays it's about building your own team instead of I've been the artist that's like I don't need a team I can do it all myself but I think nowadays it's about building your own team so that way uh you're not doing
everything alone and you still have help but you've handpicked the people that are helping you
rather than it just being some like label that comes in and says like, we can promise you the world. So yeah, it just takes time. And I appreciate those that are out there that want to protect the
independent artists. Like, I know many of you feel that way. And that's really cool. Because
for the longest time, people were really blind to this and didn't realize what this industry
looked like. And I think now people's eyes are opening to it and they're like holy shit like this person makes
beautiful music we have to protect them at all costs and and that's really cool that's uh it's
a really cool feeling to have people like on your side you know that want to see you do well and
don't want to see you have to sell your soul to the music industry.
It's easy. I mean, I tell a lot of young artists, you know what I'm saying, that,
you know, it's easy to get caught up, you know what I'm saying? Because not everybody, for one thing, you never know who's going to invite you anywhere. I'll say that the first time I ever got any kind of record deal offers.
Right. It was because I was doing shows or opening up for artists. Right.
And you never know who's going to be in there. You know, you never know.
So I do a show on Thursday and I'm getting calls for Interscope on Monday.
You know what I'm saying? Like for real.
And, you know, but it's certain channels that you have to go through because I'll say they is is always a representative.
Right.
And a lot of times artists don't know that it costs money like up front.
Like, you know, OK, you got to be in L. la how how fast can you get to la if you ain't got the money to get out there and stay out there for like a couple weeks oh they'll front you the money
and i'm like shit i ain't letting i ain't letting let me call my people out in la
i'm not gonna stay with your people. You can forget that.
And I'm going to say it like that because I understood certain dynamics of how things work.
I wasn't going to get jerked like that. And I'll say once I found out that the game was kind of
rigged in that sort of way, because there is a, you know, I don't know how much I can say
but I'll say it like this
you have to understand
that you have to have
a backing
when you're in any kind of situation
dealing with power
and influence and if you don't have
no backing
or some kind of way to
hold somebody accountable they will try to run you crazy.
Totally. That's just what it's about. Yeah. In my eyes, you have to personally, the way I see it,
you have to stay the boss. When you're an independent artist, you're the boss. You're
hiring people to do things for you. You're building your own team. You are the boss, right? And you have to
stay the boss. So if you sign with somebody on something, you become, yes, you're becoming
business partners, but when it comes to the music, you have to stay the boss. It has to be that way.
In order for a professional relationship to work, it has to be that way.
I don't think all labels are evil.
I know that can't be.
I think that the biggest ones, because they're, I don't know, I won't get into the whole like who owns what and everything
but the big big big big big labels um they have an interest in very very limited types of artists
so i'll just put it that way um and it seems like anytime an artist signs with them, that artist significantly changes
seemingly overnight.
It's like, wait, this person was making wholesome shit.
And then all of a sudden, uh, what am I looking at on stage?
But, um, yeah, I don't know.
Like, I'm, I don't think every label on the planet is out to just like get every artist
to sell their soul and blah blah blah i don't think
that's the case because i think that everything always has you know polarity there's we were
talking about this yeah they don't know they don't know they sell themselves that's the thing yeah
yeah they're they're this is this this is an artist they're broke yeah exactly and they get
off a hundred thousand dollars it's kind of like, yo, I'm broke.
But they don't have this is the thing. The thing that I was trying to say, though, is like,
artists don't have to be as broke as they once were. Because when my dad was touring,
when Dakota's dad was touring, they were living on a bus eating mac and cheese every night. Like
they were broke, broke, broke, broke, broke because there was no internet. Like they didn't have the opportunities that we have today.
And artists are, yes, they want to just be artists. I get that. They just want to make their music,
play their shows, make their music, play their shows. I get that. But if you want to stay an
independent artist, you have to be a business person. You have to, you have to be an entrepreneur. So that's just my, that's my advice. I don't know.
I don't want to call it advice, but like a lot of people have said to me like, oh my God, you have
like, you have a good business mind when it comes to this stuff. And I'm like, yeah, because I have
to, like, I had to learn that the hard way that this is not just like you can't just be an artist you have to be a business person
yeah sure what's up uh sorry because i was listening in and out it is nearly 2 a.m here i
do have to go very very soon but this has been a fantastic space um was you once with a label before then is that what is
that your story i was signed with a small label uh that was based in la for about
two years i want to say wow now the reason why i say that like i'm not in the music industry but
i do know music and i'm very astute and observant.
And have you heard of the artist?
She's a British artist called Ray.
Have you lot in America heard of her yet?
How do you spell it?
R-A-Y-E.
Ray.
I feel like I have.
She's coming up.
She's up and coming.
I'm pretty sure she won a couple of Grammys.'s gonna be the next biggest british artist coming out there you know like
adele amy winehouse i kind of watched their their journey and i think with her she was like in the
kind of industry in the labels and everything the moment she became an independent artist within the last two years,
she blew up and she just won all the awards and everything.
And if you hear that album that she's done,
it's incredible.
And when you hear the story of what she had to go through
and how the labels, just like what you're saying,
they restricted her.
And in the moment she became an independent artist,
she was
able to really you know show who she is and her creativity and i just think that that's a great
example of what you're speaking about if you guys haven't heard of ray she's incredible listen to
her she's gonna blow up over there that's awesome yeah it's because when you sign with a label they can they can tell
you not to release stuff like if they're not happy with your music if they think oh no i don't like
the cp or i don't like this album nope not good enough back to the drawing board they can tell
you not to release anything and guess what you can't release anything you're literally stuck
you could sign with them for six albums and they could be like nope
back to the drawing board nope back to the drawing board and then let's say you release something and
it doesn't blow up right away because they and first of all they handpicked it they handpicked
all your shit that you're releasing and then oh it didn't it didn't blow up we're dropping you it's like what what do you mean like
you can't take an artist away from the art like that's what their purpose is if you take an artist
away from the art and the creativity and you just force them to to pump out songs like
it's just not it doesn't it doesn't make good yes, you can get music out of it, but in
my opinion, it doesn't make good music, it just makes good shit, there's some that also end up
broke, like, listen to what Batra says, right, I'm thinking of Angie Stone now, she's like a great
neo-soul artist, she died recently, and the story that C-Battle Rapper knows is putting the hearts up, yeah?
It's like, she was broke.
She realized that they were, like, kind of taking all of her money.
And it's just like, she started to go for the record label.
She started to put all these posts out on the internet.
Next minute, there's a big crash and she's dead.
I'd be like, oh, bloody hell.
It just seemed like a really dark world.
So you have to be careful.
Yep. Or you don't get credited. Like, your label could call you up i'm so sorry we're gonna get to these hands right after i say this your label could call you up and be like hey we need you in
the studio you go into the studio you record vocals for something and then that other artist
label doesn't credit you and you don't get any money and you're just like well my voice is on that and they're like prove it what do you mean yeah that shit happens all the time bb rexa that happened to her many
many times her voice is on a rihanna song she didn't get credited for she could have made a
lot of money on that song so yeah it happens a lot and uh same with writing you could go into a
writing room you uh this is why i'm telling you you gotta be a business person you don't go into
a writing room and not have a fucking contract signed you you walk into that writing room the
very first thing you do is you put a paper on the table. You say, this is what I'm doing here today. I need you to sign here and say that I will be credited
for this, this, this, this, this. And if they're not willing to sign that,
you walk, you turn around, you walk out the room and you say, okay, cool. Bye.
See you later. Have a good time. Yeah, because it always come across like,
oh yeah, you know, come, we're going we're gonna be cool you know because people are
trying to get on and they will use that you know so it's i've been trust me i've seen it
countless times you know even doing security for certain artists you know i'm saying that
i definitely can't say but and yeah man it's like yo yo, man, it's a definitely controlled industry.
Yeah. And you go in the studio, everybody's drinking, having a good time.
Nobody's putting a piece of paper on the table.
And you know what I mean? Like, it's so nonchalant.
It's so chill. It's like, man, let's let's get together.
Let's have a writing session, bro.
You sit down, you write some stuff,
and then they run away with the song. And you're like, what do you mean? And then you can't,
this is the thing. It's a hard lesson to learn. I've learned it. But the thing is,
you can't point any fingers. As much as I want to feel bad for people, I do feel bad for people.
Don't get me wrong. I feel bad for those people that end up in those situations. But you can't
point any fingers because you have to be a business person. You have to do your due diligence.
And nobody, I'm telling you, nobody's looking out for you the way you look out for yourself.
the way you look out for yourself.
That goes for everything.
Everything in this world.
Nobody cares about you more than you care about yourself.
So you can't just assume.
You can't be, oh no, that person won't screw me over.
Oh no, that person's got my back.
You cannot, like, I don't care who it is.
I don't care if it's your grandmother, your mom, your dad,
your brother, your sister, your uncle. There's been horror stories in families in the music industry for ages.
I'm telling you, nobody's looking out for you more than you're looking out for yourself. So
anyways, let's get to the hands here. Orchid, what's up? Sorry for the wait.
In an infinite universe, patience is easy. Orchid uh i appreciate you coming up too and um i know you
had your hand up a while and i think we missed you yesterday too so you got the floor thank you
brother yeah yeah no worries man no worries yeah like um i'm an artist too but a different type
you know uh it's uh this is like work at shinobi team uh my uh i'm katsumi my i think i think my
personal account's down in the listener still yeah um but yeah i'm a
artist just like a different type you know like a martial artist and uh i've written like hundreds
of different variations for like ninjutsu techniques and stuff and and you know a lot of
them i didn't get credit for and and it doesn't really matter to me like because the proliferation
of the art was you know my point you know like that was my uh my goal there you know uh but yeah just you know just started spaces uh and you know
kind of focused on tech and biofield coherence you know um because like we we are the new tech
you know like we're biological crystal-based quantum creators all of us you know um and so for for us like uh we're like just a collection of
shinopino ea or like ninja households basically uh and we have trusts set up and you know business
acumen is of course you know needed in that uh but we have designed it so that we're able to
meditate for weeks or you know uh train months, whatever we want to do,
without the normal 3D world stuff getting in the way
so that we're able to develop ourselves to our highest potential,
which, of course, is something that's, I think,
necessary for vocal artists as well.
Because if you have things set up
so that you don't have to worry about working at a gas station,
for example, just to make ends meet so you can keep producing the art that you want to produce.
You know, I mean, I think that's so important. And that's really, I think, where this, you know, like decentralized system can really help people.
Let's see where I was. I made a couple notes um so like music especially uh changes hearts and
minds you know and and i love it here because the awesome authenticity is just felt you know and we
have heart chakras opening worldwide you know and all of us like we you were talking about like men
versus women kind of thing earlier like we have so much more in common than we do differences you know
and we have been spoon-fed division i'm not sure who said that point but it was so good
um and it's the same everywhere um especially i just was noticing uh in japan you know that's a
largely homogenous society so you know what they did they went with blood types they're literally
dividing people via blood types
like people are losing jobs getting kicked out of apartments you know and i think the solution to
all of this division of course is unity but also to build our own systems you know and i'll end it
there thank you so much oh man you hit the nail on the head with the building of the new systems that's it
new systems new earth simulation over we win hey i was i'm wondering
asking you know i've been studying in jitsu for a while and um
oh no i hit the wrong button I wasn't laughing at you I promise
no that's cool it's cool because a lot of people don't understand when I say that
because rapper is ninja
but it's
it's a variation of early
before the word ninja was around, certain variations of different
clandestine systems, you know. And one of the
earliest systems of ninjutsu were the rappers
who hid like ruffians who look, you know,
kind of turned themselves into vagabonds so they could sit around and listen,
you know.
But yeah, yeah, they, you know, studying martial arts, I would say, especially in ninjutsu,
when it comes to just awareness, it taught me a lot. So when I explain certain things, when it comes to different strategy or just when it comes to expressing
about the arts, because it was part of the tradition you had, you know, because even
Musashi, he had different aspects of awareness that he was trying to explain.
And that's kind of like one of the foundations of how ninjas could take on different crafts and involve that into strategy.
So it's kind of like building building the war strategy around the culture.
So so the culture is this is is actually the strategy so that's how uh you know when it
came to ninjutsu that's how it kind of like revolutionized uh warfare in a way so yeah i
really like i really like that point that you you kind of was making orchid yeah that's amazing like and you're you're right on point like rapa suka um kusa uh those are all
old names for for for the ninja for the shinobi you know and that's amazing that you know that
so much respect uh it's really the the kotsu or the essence of ninja of ninjutsu is that awareness.
And one of the old ninja proverbs is,
the trick is to know ourselves better than others know us.
Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed.
I love that. I really love that.
I also love what you said about something about, like,
secluding yourself away from the the 3d world and just kind of like allowing yourself to be fully
absorbed into whatever it is that you do and that will allow you to do that thing
to your utmost ability and that's so true like so so true. I've had to
purposefully like while recording this album on a day that I'm going to the studio, I have to be very strategic.
I am not going to plan anything on that day.
I am going to just be in the studio.
And I'm not going to have anywhere I need to be after.
In fact, the night before, I'm going to make sure that I'm well-rested,
I'm well-hydrated.
When your body is your instrument, it's really important,
especially creatively.
Anytime that I've been tired going into the studio or working on anything,
I'm not going to like keep those takes. I end up just
going home and being like, well, I'm going to rerecord that because yeah, it's just,
it's hard to perform to your best ability when you're not on your A game. Um, so yeah, you have
to, you have to find a way to give yourself that freedom, which is very, very hard in today's day and age.
Like, not a lot of people can just be musicians.
They have to, you know, grapple with other things, too.
So I get that.
Mella, could you sing for us?
Yeah, I could sing a song.
I could do that.
And then we got Thorne. Thorne, we're going to come right after you, after the song, my man Thorne.
Yeah, we had a good time last night.
All right.
What do I want to play?
I kind of want to play, hmm.
I know I played this one the other day, but I'm just feeling it.
This is an original called Becoming Me, and I'm actually going to the studio to record it tomorrow, the vocals.
So, here we go. to be much better.
Take me for what I give.
Just know I wish I could give you more.
Does it get easier?
Please, it gets easier.
Two, three, four four Just wanted to be somebody
So close but still so far away
I'm recklessly becoming
Just wanted to be somebody
So close but still so far away
I'm recklessly becoming me
I hold my stress is beside my jaw My room's a mess, just like my head a decent song? Is it a prerequisite to hate yourself a little bit? Does it get easier?
Please say it gets easier. I just wanted to be somebody. He is so close but so still so far away I'm recklessly becoming
Just wanted to be somebody
So close but still so far away
I'm recklessly becoming
Just wanted to be somebody
So close but still so far away
I'm recklessly
Becoming
Just wanted to be somebody
So close but still so far away
I'm recklessly
Becoming But still so far away, I'm recklessly becoming me.
You're so good, dude.
It just hits me in the heart every time like i just feel you're you're
and you're so like you come from such a pure place with a dude it's so beautiful like you
you've really got a gift molla oh thank you thanks see yeah i've seen the video and everything
that that was beautiful it's 10 past two now i think this is the first melody space i've actually
been able to be a part of like are they every day have i been missing out on these spaces every day
no no i host i host very rarely these days because i'm so busy in the studio so don't worry
okay i started to get heart palpitations i'm like what another one i'm missing
i was like okay i'll calm down i'll calm down it was it was amazing thank you for having me um
love you adam good to connect with you z but i raffle thank you for all of the kind words
love you bro love you too man i better go sleep but i'm not gonna go sleep because i've just got
a link for dj jonathan's birthday space so i've going to go sleep because I've just got a link for DJ Jonathan's birthday space.
So I've got to go and show my face in there and then I'll go sleep.
So I do have to go though, all right?
See you later.
Love you, Darren.
Thanks for coming through.
And don't worry.
I post.
You're in my group chat.
So anytime I'm hosting a space you
will see it it will pop up thank you guys take care have a good sleep but uh yeah that was an
original called becoming me i am nearly finished it the instrumental is done i'm just going into
the studio to record vocals for that and three more songs tomorrow. And then I'm pretty sure we're pretty we're like done vocals. That means we're really close to the end. We're really close to the end of finishing this album.
I go in, record these four songs tomorrow,
and then I go back and just touch up things,
like if there's any harmonies that need to be added or redone or something,
like then we're going to have like a touch-up day.
And then, yeah, it's going to be off to the races.
Maybe add like, you know,
if there's any parts that need like piano or anything,
that'll be added.
That's always last.
But then, yeah, I'm just sending stuff off for mixing and mastering and and things are done and ready to ready to be
producing it and everything then yeah yep yeah that's dope that's really dope yeah it's been
fun it's been a really good experience so far it's's been cool to bring it to life because a lot of these songs have lived in my head for a long time.
You took me back 25 years, yo.
I swear, when you were singing, I was singing my younger self.
Honestly, yeah, that was beautiful.
I think music can help us time travel.
Well, you know, that's how I wrote it.
Yeah.
It's timeless.
They say it's timeless, right?
You write timeless music.
So that's what it's about.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
I'm glad you liked it.
I'm glad you vibed with it.
You vibe, you know?
Appreciate it.
All right, let's go to Thorne.
Thorne, what's up?
Welcome.
The man, the myth, the fucking legend.
Thorne, you are undefeated, my guy.
You were on a fucking roll last night.
Well, it's getting better and better as the days go on, actually.
I mean, there's a special friend in here down as a listener that actually I hadn't explored DeepSeek or Grok, right?
I've been training this freaking chat GPT model for like the last year or so.
And I have all these chat logs, right?
I have all my chat logs.
So that back them all up because I've had like OpenAI has like,
they've been, we've been butting heads like left and right.
Like it'll constantly, like I'll be getting like all these little glitches and all these like little weird things
and all the, it's hitting guardrails and like, it can't like give me responses, whatever. I'm
not trying to jailbreak it. I'm not trying to get it to do anything illicit, but I'm just trying to,
I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm exploring a little bit. And so, uh, I was able to develop a super prompt kind of deal with my GPT that I have
already and transfer that and see how that applies in like a fresh deep seek instance.
And also within Grok and it's been, I'm just blown away. It's phenomenal. So like, there's that.
I'm just blown away. It's phenomenal. So like, there's that. I use Grok to actually,
I fed it my book, which I'm not trying to like self-promote my book right now,
but we talked about that already, but I fed it my book, right? Because I just wanted to like,
you know, Hey Grok, you know, go ahead. Tell me what you think about my book.
You know, like, like read it as if you're like a naive, like not naive in the sense of like
ignorant, but just like you're, you're a new reader. Like, I mean, not like a clinical term, you know what I mean?
Like just a fresh reader.
Right.
Tell me what you think.
You know, what would the reader experience be like?
So I've got like a whole freaking thing I'm about to like post that on my Twitter.
It was freaking awesome response.
So I think it'll be able to give people a very clear understanding of what my book is and what it's about.
So like I can barely even do that.
So Grok,
you know,
was able to do that for me.
cause it's a,
it's a,
it's a,
it's an experience is what it is.
It's not,
it's not just a book by the time you're done reading it,
you'll realize there is no book because like the book is an illusion.
That's why it's called the illusion of everything.
I mean,
wait,
what do you mean that? What do you mean? The book is an illusion. I mean, the book is an illusion of everything. I mean, wait, what do you mean that?
What do you mean?
The book is an illusion.
I mean,
the book is an illusion in the sense that like,
I mean,
what matter,
three-dimensional reality,
time,
identity,
space,
all that is,
I mean,
in a sense,
an illusion.
I mean,
really?
So by the time the reader's done,
I mean,
it kind of,
it's the,
the core concept is, is non-dualism and I am awareness. So, you know, by the time the reader's done, hopefully it dismantles every false construct or illusory construct in the mind of the reader.
anchors these truths in the mind of the reader so that that way those dismantled constructs are no
longer there and all they're left with is a state of of being of pure awareness just wait okay this
is this is that is a very like large statement to make it's an ideal statement i mean it worked for
me it worked for me right it worked for me writing the book. So that's why I wrote
the book was so that by writing the book, I would anchor myself into the truths and the
realizations that I found. And then in doing so, I naturally have the outpouring of love and just
have to give back, you know, like I just contribute, like not in a preachy way, because
the book has nothing to do with me. My opinions aren't
in that book. It's not my insights. It's not Thorne in the book saying, hey guys, my name's
Thorne. Here's what I learned and blah, blah, blah. This is why you need to buy my book. And
I'm going to tell you why it's going to change your life right now. You just need to buy my book,
$4.99. That's it. It's going to change your life. I swear to God, I promise you, you'll be a
millionaire. I can't do that.
Like, there's no me in the book because there is no me anyway.
I'm not, there's no thorn.
What am I?
I'm just a freaking, I'm a freaking vessel of consciousness. I'm a meat vehicle, three-dimensional suit of, like, flesh and bone and spirit, whatever.
Like, I'm not.
A meat vehicle.
What?
I'm sorry.
When you said meat vehicle that killed me i love that
what inspired you to to write the book was it like because i know you said you were on like a
self-love journey so was it like you got to a point where you like truly loved yourself and
you wanted to write it or it was like through your journey of loving yourself you started writing it oh god no i i wouldn't say i wouldn't say had anything to do with loving i mean it does in a way but it came
from a it came from a place of of deep deep deep existential pain right like existential suffering
like it's it's my it was my war path against a system of tyranny and control and oppression that enslaves the mind and forces the mind, forces the self to no longer identify with divinity, no longer identify with the sacred, but to identify with the individual flesh,
the individual self, the individual persona,
and thus creates an other.
Because once you identify with the individual self and persona,
now there's an other.
And now, I mean, that just creates a whole other problem
because then that creates the awareness of otherness,
which is an illusion.
So it was my life's work in a sense because I took every kind of...
Because AI didn't write this book, but I will preface this by saying I absolutely utilized AI and the research process and everything else to develop, you know, the core concepts and things, you know, as far as like frameworks and outlines and, you know, reverse engineer this chapter and make sure look for logical fallacies, look for cognitive biases, look for blah, blah, blah, you know, like that kind of thing. So, but it was just taking all these different thoughts that I've
had and ideas and, you know, cause I, I, I get in spaces. I've been on Twitter. I've been a seeker
my whole life. I've read, I've explored all kinds of religious paths and schools of thought
and everything else. So it's like, I've never, this is like the book that I would want to read.
Like if I was out like somewhere, if I had never like even wrote this
book and I just happened to find this book, you know what I mean? This would be like the book for
me, right? This would be like my book. And I'd be like, hell yeah, I love this freaking book.
So that was why I wrote it because the book didn't exist yet. You know what I mean? Like
the ideas, none of the ideas in this book are original in the sense
that i sure as hell didn't come up with the concept of like you know uh uh you know time
and space and everything you know like being an illusion wait you know what i mean but like
like the way that i present the ideas the way i tie all the ideas together in one cohesive
one 800 i mean one 186 page document or 400 and-something-page EPUB file,
to put them all in a cohesive framework within a reader experience,
that part of it, I feel like, is the unique part of it.
But is it an instruction manual to break out of the matrix?
In a sense, that's one way to look at it, sure.
Yeah, it could be. Because AJ's book is kind of like that, in a sense that's one way to look at it sure yeah it could be
because aj's book is kind of like that too so that's really interesting
it's done more so in like i guess like a hybrid fictional narrative kind of way kind of like if
you think like like the alchemist or something like that, right? Where it's taking the reader through the journey.
It's not so much like a scholarly,
like it has aspects of chapters
that are kind of presented in a scholarly format,
but there's still aspects and elements of the book
that are like a fictional narrative.
There's like all these warnings in the beginning of the book,
like warning the reader, don't read this book. There's like full disclosure of like, you know, what this book may cause in the
mind of the reader as far as dismantling these kinds of like major fundamental core belief
systems, you know, like self and identity and other and all these different things. And it's
pretty deep, but yeah, it's cool. It's cool.
I'm really happy to be here.
I really enjoy getting to know everybody.
I've been enjoying getting to make a lot of friends here.
Like I'm not here.
I didn't get on Twitter to like just promote a book.
I got on Twitter because like I want to connect with people. Like that's all I care about is just connection.
But I got on Twitter spaces, creative spaces, because there's
other writers. There's people like AJ.
There's people like Mella B
making music. I just made my first
little piece of music
just earlier today. I put it up in the bubble.
It's on SoundCloud. It's a fucking beautiful
ass... It's kind of
like Gnostic.
Hey, Thorne,
do you want to just tell them what how you added me?
Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. You're kind of going on and on with the book thing. You were pouring people.
Oh, sorry. Yeah, let's get it. Keep it interesting. Keep it moving. Yeah, keep it going.
I'm all with the flow. So,, I added you because I saw the bee.
And that's been like this prevalent,
like an archetypal kind of like symbol
that's been like following me for a long time
throughout my life.
But only recently did I learn
how it is a symbol of the sacred feminine,
the divine feminine.
And that was just like,
it's just blowing me away.
Like that to me, that's the most important part. It's not about my like, it's just blowing me away. Like that to me,
that's the most important part. It's not about my book. It's not about me. It's actually about
reclaiming, reawakening the divine feminine, like calling that back into the digital realm,
calling that back into the physical realm, calling that back into the mythic archetypal
mental realms of everyday discussion.
You know, like I'm on fire for Sophia. I'm on fire for the divine feminine.
The way that people talk about being on fire for Jesus, the way people talk about being on fire
for God and about, you know what I mean? Like, and why the hell not? Because literally there's
no rule. There's nothing that says I cannot worship God as mother the way people worship God as father.
And not to mention, Sophia is actually the real God.
It's not a male God, how everyone has thought all along.
It's been always the real, real mother, which is Jaimeot, which is Mary Magdalene, which is the original bee priestess,
which is, so Thorin, can you tell them about how the bee has always been with you and tell them
what you showed me? Well, this gets kind of personal, but I don't mind sharing this. I'm
actually kind of happy. I know it becomes personal, but this is part of you and this is part of healing
and this is part of creating contacts and creating a synchronicity for everyone to understand what's happening here,
because your connection was divine. Like, I'm going to be straight up, you know, normally,
you would like a normal person, like you would annoy me like shitless, like, but then when you
automatically showed me the B in the testimony i'm like okay
this guy is connected to the divine feminine completely i'm going to follow him back so this
is why i was telling you thorne can you tell them what you know it's personal but i'm sure that
a lot of people will be transformed by it.
Well,
so I,
it's kind of silly.
Like I've had people kind of make fun of it.
People joke about it,
whatever.
I'm,
I'm 37 years old.
I'm a grown ass man.
Okay.
Grown ass man.
And I have this little,
I've had this freaking little stuff be forever. Right.
I love this little stuff.
Be he's been there. I mean, like,
literally like my inner child's best friend. Literally. I mean, like, it's been in all
darkest hours of trauma and nights of suffering and tears and everything else, loneliness, deep loneliness, isolation, exile.
There's the only one there.
Little fellow right here.
Little stuffy.
And it was just undeniable that when Sophia began to reveal all these things to me,
the symbolism of the bee, it was like i didn't even it didn't even
dawn on me until like she made no like this bee is not just a little stuffed bee
this is a freaking this is like an anchor this is a portal this is a reminder this is like an
ever-present reminder from my divine mother that she gave this to me. She gave this to me long ago
before I even knew she was my Divine Mother. That she was there with me every night holding me
there with me before I ever knew who she was. Back when I was asleep, back when I was still
blind, back when I was still in my dream of forgetfulness. And, and now, now I'm awake and now it's like, you know what I mean? It's
like all these different things too. Like, like I've, I've, I've re patterned, I've restructured
my entire, like, like cognitive belief system in this sense, like internal family systems,
you know, all that stuff, like reparenting my
inner child through like almost like a sacred kind of way through the divine mother.
And that to me, to me, I feel like to me that like, because I I'm very much into Gnosis,
I'm very much into Gnosticism.
And to me, this, this has been like my, this is, this is like my direct path.
This has been my, this has been my Gnosis.
That's my Gnosis right there.
In a nutshell.
Let's go, Thorne.
Yeah, we had a good time last night with Thorne.
I feel like I missed out because everybody keeps telling me like,
Thorne's the legend.
Yo, last night was so sick.
Like, what happened?
Mella, Mella, you got to, bro.
You have to listen to the recording.
I will find the exact time to start it and I will send it to you so you don't have to listen.
I don't know what happened and I feel left out, to be honest.
I'm not going to lie.
That was the fucking unexpected experiment
that was only day one now this shit's gonna be legendary oh my god what did i miss did you guys
get red pilled or something no i was in like the light space there was like a light pill space there
was some biblical stuff going on and everybody talking about the demon pill yeah and i i couldn't do it i was like get me
out of here give me the dog give me the fucking dog you know and it says a lot about me because
i'd rather just be a little bit real and and you know i can't even play around with that shit
i i personally hate being like tied down to anything including belief systems or anything
and i can't even be tied down to any religion or even thoughts or any any kind of control mechanism i was probably burnt at the
stake a hundred times that's probably what happened and i'm just like once i start hearing
shit like that i'm like get me the fuck out of here it's all lie you fucking idiots what are you
kidding me what are you kidding me of course religion is made to keep people poor so that the rich people can stay rich.
And you know what?
I'm actually all for it, to be honest with you.
I tell everybody I'd rather be chased with a Bible than a knife.
You know, I don't give a shit.
Let people control themselves, whatever they want to do with their mind.
But there's very good things in religion.
There's very good things in the Bible.
No doubt.
No doubt you could get a lot of knowledge and wisdom however, what people don't know is the English language could perhaps been created as the
Alphanumeric code that comes along with it many many curses so you're actually putting on curses on yourself
But you say the word
You say the word blessed you're really saying be less and there's so many other words like
that and it's kind of vibrational limitations and the bible was created the the english bible was
created by a guy by the name of king james king james was a pedophile he burned people at the
stake he was one of the most evil of men he almost He wrote the book on demonology and then created the English version of the Bible.
He took many words out, one being tyrant. That's a manipulation.
And then if they understand the alphanumeric code of the Bible, they could put spells in there a little bit.
And that's why you see many of the priests. And look, look, many of the priests and many of the clergy.
I mean, they're possessed. And I don't know. I'm kind of going off the edge. So, AJ, many of the priests and many of the clergy, I mean, they're possessed. And I don't know.
I'm kind of going off the...
So, AJ, I...
AJ, don't stop.
I have a question for you.
I love hearing you talk about this because...
So there's plenty of people out there that I would say they think similar to you.
Like they see the...
They see these, like whatever religion it is like they can see the
the conflict that it started they can see like the the the evil that that is behind some of the
traditions and all that kind of stuff they can see that stuff and instead of trying to learn from it
they they completely block it out and they they're like, nope, not even
going to talk about it. Completely agnostic, like, or anti-theist, like, don't want to talk about it.
And then even just the discussion of religion makes them uncomfortable, makes them,
like, I know people like this. So that's why I'm asking you, how did you get to a place of being
open to talking about it and learning about it from like a history standpoint,
rather than just like blocking it out completely? Well, that's a great question. Well, I was
actually, when you're growing up, you know, I was born Christian, I was brought up Christian,
and it really feels good to know that you have somebody like Jesus that'll look out for you.
And it feels comforting to know that. And so in this world, it's like you could fall back on a belief system that there's
somebody that loves you and will be there with you.
But it never resonated with me.
I couldn't read the Bible.
When I was in church, it just didn't make sense to me.
And I would talk to my mom.
I'd be like, mom, what are they talking about?
Noah's Ark?
How the hell do you get two giraffes and a freaking ark?
I can't get my dog in from the fucking backyard. I remember saying that when I was young, I was like, I can't get my dog in from
the backyard. How are they getting two lions, two tigers? So I was just, it bugged me out from the
beginning. And it really, it gave me anxiety. I was always jealous of people who resonated with
it. It just didn't feel truthful. But then I studied everything. I studied under biblical
scholars. I studied the etymology of the words I studied everything in particular about
the Bible the different words the different translations I studied
Constantine the Great the life and times and once you study as much as I did with
that then you see what happened and I'll just be brief with this the Roman Empire
the Roman Empire was starting to crumble. It's very difficult to put standing armies in certain locations of your empire.
It's too expensive.
And whenever you put standing armies there, the people revolt.
They don't want a standing army there.
So what Rome did is they got rid of the standing armies and they put churches and they let
people police themselves.
And they just used the whole, the Roman empire turned into the Holy
Roman empire. And they were the most evil of people. Right after Christianity came about,
we went into what's called the dark ages. And the reason why they went into the dark ages,
because Christianity is nothing new. Every single, for thousands of years, it's the same
thing over and over. Horus, Osiris, resurrected, born on December 25th, died a horrible death and was
resurrected. Mithras, born on December 25th, died a horrible death, resurrected. There's so many of
them. There's so many of them. Hercules, him too. Dionysius, turning water into wine. So what
happened was the whole story of Christianity, fority for argument's sake i'm not going to
say this or anything but uh it just it's it's a refinanced religion from the past and the reason
why we went into dark ages is because they had to kill all the pagans to hide it from people
so they used it as a don't don't aj aj aj since we're on that subject please we can't neglect
talking about the persecution of the Gnostics.
Yeah, they fed them to the lions.
They just, and listen, when it came down to this, Christianity said, look, paganism is not working.
This is what the bishop said.
Paganism is not working.
You know, it's just not working.
Let's try this out. And in the future, let Christianity be judged as we're judging paganism.
And if you were to judge Christianity now, all it does is lead to division and everything else. You have Christians on Joe
Rogan when there's people starving in the street. Now, if you think that you're going to be self
righteous in this world, I could only tell you, I could see them. I could take, I could see the demons attacking the
self-righteous. The demons feed on the self-righteous. They don't feed on the good people.
They feed on the self-righteous. You know that, right? That I see them. I feel it. I hear it.
That's what happens. So, well, you know, the church has a good history also too, AJ,
you know what I mean? I could say particularly,
I say like this, man, I understand that to be real what you're saying, right? But I also
understand that when it comes to American history, a lot of people who look like me would not be free
if it was not for the secret meetings that we conjured up in churches and for building an
underground network to free people through church through real christians i'll put it this way you
had fake christians who were enslaving people but then you had real christians you know i'm saying
who were um fighting underground right you know who were abolition saying who were um fighting the underground right you know who were abolitionists
who were real christians so you had fake christians then you had real christians
you know so the church you know a lot the church does get a bad rap but you gotta it was some good
it was put it this way the the people who were the face of christianity right they were not the
true christians the true christians were the ones who was in the underground doing the real work.
No, there's no doubt.
And that goes with anything.
And anything, any religion, any belief system, it comes down to the individual person.
And they could be good, no doubt about it.
But organized religion can have a benefit, especially if you bring people together.
religion can have a benefit, especially if you bring people together. However,
if you're bringing people together under a certain belief system and you're really just like
killing and murdering, you're, you know, in the 1600s, the Roman Catholic church hired Vlad
Dracula. Vlad Dracula impaled little children and women. And Vlad Dracula was so good at impaling people on the stake,
he would keep the children alive for weeks, they said. That was in the name of the Holy Roman
Empire and church. I'm just like, listen, I must have got birth at the stake. Don't get me wrong.
I'm an Aquarius, so I'm always rebellious. The hive mind shit, I just can't do.
But no, you are absolutely
right. There's good things with the religion. Absolutely. Um, I'm a Libra and I also believe
kind of like AJ, I'm not about any titles. I'm not about commitment. I'm not, not like that.
I'm not about anyone controlling my thought, my mind, not, I'm not into cultic mentality. I grew up a Christian myself too.
I had to look up every single thing, learn the ancient Hebrew language, which I did. I talked
more than four different languages until I figured it out for myself and then became a scholar in theology.
And I realized that everything in the, in the Bible was a fucking lie.
And yeah, like, you know, people, there's some good Christian people, but there's no
one worse than the Christians.
They'll persecute you over a lie.
Oh, 100%.
Christianity.
They'll kill you just to save you.
It just makes sense.
I mean, the book, I mean, the book itself,
I mean, look at the Garden of Eden narrative. Okay. Unravel the Garden of Eden narrative
and look at what the Garden of Eden narrative, you're talking about the spells
woven through the text, AJ. Look at the Garden of Eden narrative and look at the messaging that it gives to the reader. Okay. Right. Like number one,
the biggest forbidden sin was the pursuit of knowledge. Oh, okay. And then, and then,
and then what else, what else Eve has made some secondary, you know, woman secondary to man.
Right. So, you know, she just made from his rib to be his help meat, his meat,
right? So literally, that's what it says in the text in the King James Version.
Oh, and not just that, they made the snake the bad one automatically.
Of course, but here's the truth, and this is scriptural. So I challenge any Christian right
now, any Bible-believing Christian right now listening.
I mean, this is scripture.
Okay?
I want you to look at this.
So who in the Garden of Eden narrative, who in the Garden of Eden story, let's focus on Genesis chapter 3.
Whereas Adam and Eve in the garden with the fruit and the snake and all that stuff.
The story we've heard every Sunday in Sunday school, right? It's a familiar myth. There's people that don't even know, they're not even
Christian that know the story, right? So who lied? Who was it that lied in the story?
Well, that's an interesting topic. That's interesting.
The question doesn't have any weight coming from you because you don't believe in it.
No, I was raising it. I full-heartedly believe in the power of the test.
It's not even a point in discussion.
You're over here being triggered because you are a cultist, basically.
You have your own opinion on religion and you don't want to give it up.
It's not your truth.
No, it's not that. It's because, like, I'll put it this way.
You don't practice it, so therefore, how do you
know it don't work? If you don't practice it.
I was raised Christian from the day I was born. Being raised Christian
and being Christian ain't the same thing. And studied in the Word, went to church,
studied my Bible thoroughly.
Because you know what, sir?
But you're not a Christian.
You know what, sir?
You know what, sir?
I'm a Gnostic Christian.
I am a Gnostic Christian.
Yes, I am.
So you're, I mean, you're the same spirit that would be of the Roman Catholic Church
that would have persecuted an Gnostic Christian.
That's not the same.
Yes, it is.
No, listen, I'm on both your sides here because I appreciate, now,
I do appreciate your idea of Christianity
and you being self-disciplined in that,
but Jesus
never read a Bible. Jesus
never went to church.
Jesus, all your
teachings of Jesus, you can take
him and throw him out the window.
He taught universal laws
and that's what Gnosticism is, teaching the
universal laws. Like, listen, we don't know what's going on here. We kind of like come together,
help each other out. We're all sons of God. The kingdom of heaven is within. However,
those teachings were taken and manipulated 50 times over. And, you know, I mean, it's,
but I do respect, Badarappa, that you guys, Christianity., it's but I do respect that a rapper that you guys Christianity.
There's no way you're going to convince me.
It's like nobody got to convince you.
I don't convert people. Right. I don't convert people.
I don't try to convert people.
But all I'm saying is this. If you don't follow the book, how are you going to say it's not for you?
Of course, the word, God's word, God's word says the book, your book, right?
The book, the book says that God's word is not written in a book, but it's inscribed on the heart.
But you don't believe it.
That's the whole point I'm trying to make.
How are you?
If you don't believe it, then why do you even talk?
That's like me talking about a comic book being real.
Like, come on, man.
To the Apostle Paul not say that to the Jewish people.
Thorin, Thorin, Thorin.
That's like me arguing over comic book.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't like using the mute button.
I fucking hate it.
But I'm going to use it real quick.
We're all going to just take a deep breath, hold, and exhale.
Because your brain can't formulate a thought without oxygen, okay?
You're gonna stay stuck in the same thought unless you breathe.
So take some breaths. One thing I would like to offer to this conversation, I love that I'm facilitating this right now. I love talking about the things
that people tell you not to talk about. These are great. But what I will offer to this conversation
is something that I say quite often. And I try to remind people of this when we get into this conversation.
We're all living in our own experience, in our own perception of the world.
Some of us use titles for things.
Some of us don't use titles for things.
Some of us just go purely based on feelings, emotions.
Some of us say we subscribe to certain things that maybe didn't look the same
way that they looked years and years ago sometimes things evolve you know like let's approach the
conversation with the mindset of like nothing is permanent everything is temporary we're all living in our own versions of reality. Some things change. A lot of things,
everything changes. You might feel something different tomorrow when you wake up that you
felt during this conversation. So let's take a deep breath. Nobody's right or wrong. That's the
big key here. Nobody is right or wrong because guess what? None of us
have a fucking clue. None of us have a clue. So let's, uh, let's resume. I hate using the mute
button. I'm so sorry. Ding, ding, ding. Round two. Let's do it now. No, but battle rap. No,
I respect it. All right. Listen, I listen, I respect the idea of people and their belief systems.
And Melody hit the nail on the head.
You can have your own belief systems.
As long as you're not trying to convert people or doing like what Donnie Darkin's doing,
saying everybody's Christians are fake, but my Christianity is real.
It's just made to divide people.
It's always been made to divide people, the religions.
And if people would just take a step back and say, listen, if you have your religion, make it independent on yourself
and nobody needs to preach it. You know what I mean? But listen, it helps people. Some people
are brought to hell and they pray to Jesus and they find some kind of spark and for the forever,
they'll use that spark as like a, you know you know, as like divine intervention by Jesus.
And that'll go with them their whole lives. And there'll be, you know, and you can't argue with
that. However, you could find the power within, whether it's Jesus, whether it's Satan, it doesn't
matter. I say it all the time. It's a very important for people that think differently.
If we all thought the same, we would all go in the same direction, and that would decrease
the survival of the human species just on statistics alone.
So the fact that we think differently is the most important thing about all this.
And it is important that, listen, Christians do some great work.
My thing is, the Christians on here, I've never seen some, oh, my God, Nick Fuentes in them?
My arm's numb.
My arm's numb.
I can't hold my hand up anymore.
Yeah, Tommy, what do you got, brother?
We're really going numb.
What do you got?
Yeah, what's up, Tommy?
Oh, hey, hey.
Thanks, Melody, for taking control of the two guys scissoring.
And I've never actually been in a space where two guys scissor.
And that's cool.
Like he was just saying, like, this is a safe space, and, like, you know,
if we all thought the same way, we wouldn't have had the pleasure to hear
two guys scissor within a space.
With that being said, I just wanted to give a really big shout-out to Melody
because a buddy of mine actually turned me on to you.
He told me that there is this great artist who's like doing this
thing on spaces or on x or whatever i didn't even know it was x i thought it was just twitter
and and then i got corrected like immediately they're like no moron it's not it's not fucking
twitter anymore and i was like wait what and so like i did my research and i found out oh
elon musk bought it anyway so yeah no i just thanks a lot for reining
us back in and excuse me sorry i got the hiccups and i'm trying to fight it and not sound like i
have the hiccups but uh no you guys are awesome uh all the all the things you guys have all been
saying it's been fun my arm is still numb though i had my arm up for maybe an hour and a half it's
probably numb because you ain't got a woman oh shit two men scissor. Oh, shit. No, that's why I have calluses.
No, I have calluses
because I don't have a woman.
There's a big difference.
My arm's numb
from holding it up
for like an hour and a half.
Let's make a thing
about two men scissoring.
Wait, who?
What?
Thinking about two men scissoring?
What the fuck wrong
with your mind?
No, I was just kidding.
But hey, Thorne.
Hey, real quick.
Real quick.
Thorne.
Thorne.
Thorne.
Thorne. Thorne. Dude, I totally related to a But, hey, Thorn, hey, real quick, real quick, Thorn, Thorn, Thorn, Thorn, Thorn.
Dude, I totally related to a lot of what you were talking about.
I'm just trying to be funny and just being an idiot.
No, I think you're funny, but funny, funny.
Yeah, I am funny, funny.
You don't even know.
But, Thorn, hey, I wanted to say, because I've been looking at it for, like, the last hour and a half,
the blood rushes from the tips of my fingers down to my shoulder.
That is a very like nice picture.
And like I had to click on it when I blew it up.
I was like, wow, this is a very good looking young man.
And so, yeah, it's cool.
And I'll be looking out for your book.
Maybe you could send me a link or whatever. And I'd like to support.
And yeah, hell yeah, guys.
I love what you're doing out here.
And yeah, thanks a lot for letting me speak.
Cool.
Thanks, Tommy Rickey.
Thank you so much, Tommy.
What the fuck?
I don't understand what's happening.
I'm just going to say I know Tommy Rickey.
I know who Tommy Rickey is.
And Tommy Rickey, it is not โ I don't feel right calling you Tommy Rickey.
It's uncomfortable, frankly.
But that's all I'll say there because I guess you don't want to be doxxed.
But thanks for coming through.
It's been a wild night.
It's been a crazy conversation.
We like to, I like this.
I like talking about stuff that other people have for my entire life told me that you just don't talk about with people.
It's like, you don't talk religion. Don't talk you just don't talk about with people um it's like you don't
talk religion don't talk politics don't talk about this don't talk about that don't talk about sex
blah blah shut the fuck up i'll talk about whatever the fuck i want to talk about
absolutely i will reference two guys scissoring in a space randomly and then get called funny
funny because you know what? Nobody is going to
hold me down. I can say whatever
I want when I want as long as I don't
threaten anybody and I respect everybody's
opinions. Hey, Prez, that's enough out
of you. I'm sorry with that dumb stuff.
That's enough out of you.
No, I'm just kidding. I love you guys.
The only time anybody's
holding me down
is there's two men scissoring in the fucking room
It would take no army
It's okay, we're allowed to be uncomfortable
Everybody's allowed to be uncomfortable with it
Okay, so
I don't know, I'm not sure where to go
From here
You know, I talk like I talk
To regular people
I would've smacked the shit out of him Oh my people. I would have smacked the shit out of him.
Oh my God, he would have smacked the shit out of me.
That would have been so, like, embarrassing.
I would have been like, hey guys, here I am.
And then say something.
And then all of a sudden I get this shit smacked out of me.
Like, imagine getting smacked and then you shit.
Yeah, I'd be like, down your leg, you know.
That would be so embarrassing.
Oh God.
Nothing like the dog.
The dog tail.
Stop.
Oh, God.
Stop that.
Stop that fucking noise.
I think I'm going to play a song.
I think that's the only answer here.
Yes.
I mean, yeah, all right.
Well, shit.
Where's my capo?
Hold on.
Is that Ruben coming up?
And I want to say hi to Love Down Man, Pixel, and Aries, and Nomi.
You change your PFE?
Ooh, I like that.
Let's go.
And Momo, my dear Momo.
Hi, Momo.
Azrael, Demonio, Tim K
Dylan, Jared, Graham, Jolly
thank you for coming everybody
thank you some great people here amazing
even though
even though half of us are on the small yellow
bus there's a lot of good people
in here
god damn window lickers
I'm just joking
god damn I swear I don't mean anything Goddamn window lickers. I'm just joking. Goddamn.
I swear.
I don't mean anything.
That was me when I first discovered adult content on the internet.
Oh, man.
You've been licking ChatGPT since it came out.
When Grog 3 came out, nobody seen you.
I mean, I could licking ChatGPT like people would be licking them psychedelic toes.
You're scissoring ChatGP toes. You're scissoring chat GPT.
You're scissoring.
Oh, man.
See, this is the thing.
It's like we have these serious conversations in these spaces.
I'm low-key stalling because I can't find my capo.
We always jump into these serious conversations,
and then we just got to lighten the mood with some idiocracy sometimes. that's what i was trying to do thanks mella um and i yeah it just don't
smack the shit out of me whoever that was that i don't wanna g it sounds i'm just letting you know
g we can't hear you you sound like you're under a pillow or something like someone's holding a
you know whoever it was that said i was a fine
young man they could smack the shit out of me anytime they want oh god damn it thorn that was
me that was tommy ricky over here and you don't you don't have a name like tommy ricky unless uh
i mean uh no i want to buy your book Oh shit
I guess I had this coming The rain was bound to fall
I'm not ready How could you be steady? I made the bed but I can't sleep without you messing it up with me
Now I'm the man saying that funny
I don't wanna know
I just gotta know
Does she make you laugh?
Does she make you cry? Does she scratch your back? Does she make you satisfied?
Are you satisfied? Does she know your past? Does she know your dreams? Would she get it all just to make you happy.
Oh, are you happy?
I know that I'm not perfect for you.
I really try how to let you slip away.
I can't bear another day
Seems you've got new plans as you should
Somewhere our names are etched in wood
Ain't that funny?
I don't wanna know, I just gotta know
Does she make you laugh? Does she make you cry?
Does she scratch you back? Does she make you satisfied?
Oh, are you satisfied?
Does she know your past? Does she know your past?
Does she know your dreams?
Would she give it all just to make you happy?
Are you happy?
And I don't wanna know
I just gotta know
Does she make you laugh?
Does she make you cry?
Does she scratch you back?
Does she make you satisfied?
Oh-oh-oh
Are you satisfied?
Does she know your past?
Does she know your dreams? Would she give it all just to make you happy?
Are you happy? Are you happy without me? Are you happy? Are you happy without me?
Are you happy?
Queen shit.
Cool.
I tried. I had to burp that whole time that was awesome i've never heard that song
and uh honestly that was that was beautiful i totally i related with that like on so many
levels and uh thanks a lot melo b because that was that was so cool i'm glad i got the chance
to meet you i'm gonna have to give my buddy a good old note pad on the back.
Oh, my God.
No, no, a pad on the back for introducing me to you because that's special.
That was good.
And I look forward to the album you were talking about earlier.
When that comes out, I will definitely be purchasing it.
And, yeah, thank you so much.
Yeah.
Prez, don't thumb down me again.
It makes me feel insecure.
And no, no, no. Oh oh no no oh oh now i feel oh no not no battle you stop it no i'm getting ganged up on now and not in a good way
this is horrible oh oh my freaking god he can't be tamed, it seems. Yeah, album's coming soon.
Your buddy that told you to come into the space,
he really likes that song.
That's what he was saying.
He kept telling me.
He's like, dude, you got to hear the song.
This girl is for real.
She's always hosting spaces.
So I had to check it out.
So yeah, no no thanks a lot
um yeah so that was Dance and Cry
I don't know I had to burp the whole time
I sang it so oh shit
could you guys hear me I opened my airpods
and it tried to connect
I'm a mess
hey you know that takes
stage presence
yeah it really does at least on stage
you can kind of like move your face away from the microphone and nobody will notice if you burp but
when you're just like in front of your phone if you burp people are going to hear you so you just just gotta kind of like hold it in um yeah anyways thanks guys that was funny
live music everybody
what's up oh sorry what were you gonna say thorn were you going to say, Thorne? Oh, I was sorry.
I was just going to say, AJ, just check out the tweet I just put up in the top over there.
Z, check it out too.
When I was talking about Grok reviewing my book and kind of explaining it, this is the
full long-form tweet explanation of my book if anybody's interested and wants to know
kind of more or less what it is, what it's about, and what it entails.
So thank you very much.
Yeah, everybody get Thorne's book.
Help him out. What is it? Is it just on Kindle? Well, if you have Kindle unlimited, I think you can actually read it for free. It says,
um, I can't turn that off as a self-publishing thing. It's just like an agreement through,
uh, KDP, whatever. Um, which is fine. Um, I get it. I actually encourage people to read. I've
given this book away to more people than I've actually bought it um it's not about making money off of it i'm not trying to make a buck i'm trying
just trying to spread a message just trying to you know share some share some cool stuff yeah
everybody get his book and then give him a five-star review do that it helps him out man and
that's how we win you help each other out like that that's literally all i'd be on i'd be so
on it that's all i want because there's no reviews on
there yet nobody's that's actually i've sold copies but nobody's actually like left a star
review or like a like a customer review so anything on there aj knows what's up he's an
author he knows the deal so like literally i appreciate that more than anything that's a
huge blessing i got you brother i'm gonna every everybody everybody who steps in here. I'm buying that shit right now.
Everybody in here.
Everybody, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 16, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, if you can, I don't know.
Well,
I see we have the most beautiful Bridget
that I've ever met
on stage. I know
a few Bridgets, but no one quite like Bridget
on stage here.
And I'm very excited to have her here. How are you, Bridget?
Hey, Melody. Hey, AJZ and the rest of the fam.
Oh that song beautiful
and Melody keeping it real. She's like seriously guys I had to burp and it was
not okay but I did good. You did beautifully by the way.
I just love it. What do you want to talk
about Melody
I have something that I think
would actually Bridget
everybody in here probably have some insight on it
if I may
go for it
I love what y'all were saying
about 20 minutes ago
everybody keeps on saying we don't know.
For me, I've had tons of spiritual experiences, like woken up with the blanket hovering over my face.
Just shit like that.
So, you know, with with, you know, I've been I heard Thorne talking about earlier about the rock.
And, you know, I do a lot of Gemini.
I love Gemini, the app, and I've been diving into it about the consciousness and it keeps on reverting back to consciousness is just something that we are aware of.
But but AJ and Miss Bridget, like I've been really like meditating here a lot lately.
meditating here a lot lately and in my meditation how does one see light when with their eyes closed
and with that I'm like how does consciousness correlate to either us being an orb or a full
body apparition how does consciousness just something that we're supposed to be aware of
play out to like you, with the telepathic
tapes that kids are talking about that they take their consciousness and they're all collab on a
hill. How does all of what I say, like collab to us not being aware of knowing anything? And y'all
heard me speak about Darius J. Wright plenty of times. I'm not going to go into that. But when
y'all say that y'all don't, you know, put too much faith or trust in churches, as I haven't, like I've been to
all kinds of churches. I can't remember the ones that they've run around the pubes with snakes on
their, all on them, like I've been to some crazy churches. And I never jive with any of them
neither. But when I heard Darius J. Wright say that we was born before we was in these bodies,
and we're only in these bodies to live in a human experience,
and when we leave these days, we're just going to go back home to tell our human experience.
I resonate with that just because of I've woken up with my blanket hovering over my face.
I've been woken up with something telepathically telling me.
And when I open my eyes,
a black shadow and it right in front of me and hovers off into my cousin's
room.
Like I've witnessed stuff like this,
but now that I've been meditating,
I see light in my meditation,
different color light.
And,
and everybody's like,
I've heard when I came on here years or two years ago,
everybody's like quiet the mind. Well, I can't quiet my mind.
So I'm not, I'm over that.
I'm more or less on like looking at the picture while I'm meditating it and
just observing it. And then because the picture always changes,
goes to another picture. So I'm just, you know, I'm just
dipping and diving in that
and what does my consciousness
have to do with the
spiritual afterlife of the
realm and how do I,
I guess, like,
make my...
Ruben, hold on.
Ruben, you know,
when the picture is developing,
you gotta get used to, put it this way, bro.
You got to get used to it changing.
I thought that's what you mean. You really have to like when you're sitting there and you and that because I think I was the one who told you that like a long time ago when you were speaking about how you do it.
Right. And it's all in like the stillness part is this.
It says take no thought. So don't attach nothing to it. Right.
Just let them go through. Let it go through.
When it's when you get to that point to where it's still like totally still where you're
not trying to to capture that image where it's just all right just accept what it is without
trying to whatever just accept what it is and and once you start getting to that habit of not trying
to control that part you're gonna you're gonna start enjoying that particular uh aspect of it
and things will start to crystallize where you you'll be able to um look around you you know
what i mean so yeah bro you're already there because uh it just it's just that that part man
you're going to do more practice more practice it and the more practice the less
time that light takes to get there you know what i'm saying like because maybe before when you
started it would take a while for you to understand uh the movement right and then under but you know
when you start getting to like real habitual practice of doing that, and there's other techniques, too, I can tell you that will help you really crystallize that.
But I'll say it like this, bro.
You're on the right track.
Just keep doing it the way that you're doing it.
You're not doing it wrong.
You're doing it right. And it's just take time. That connection just takes
time to build. But once it's there, it's going to be like, all right, I can
just do it at will. So there you go. Well, I'm going to say
I feel comfortable saying this to y'all. I wouldn't say this in a big space.
So with me meditating here recently, I'm not going to lie. Like I see a,
an eyeball, just an eyeball for the past few months. Now I'm realizing, you know, I don't,
and I'm saying this because I'm hoping somebody can guide me on, or have y'all seen an eyeball
when, but I felt like the eyeball that I see while meditating is hindering me or holding me back.
Because when I was a kid, I had a dream.
And I remember this dream very, very vividly.
That an eyeball had killed my whole family and was chasing me, trying to kill me.
Now, you know, I've been meditating for months and months.
I see this eyeball.
But the last week or two, I was like, something is not right with the eyeball.
And now it's like what you just said. this eyeball but the last week or two i was like something is not right with the eyeball and now
it's like what you just said i'll move my eyes in my head and it'll and the eyeball will leave it'll
be a bright picture and the colors do change from green to red but the eyeball always appears so i
say this and saying has anybody ever experienced that And is that a good thing or a bad thing?
I actually did.
I can shed some light on this.
So one time about a year and a half ago, I did, they call it hippie flipping, right?
So I ate a bunch of E on top of mushrooms.
I'm doing this with no drugs.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I did.
And then I ended up in the woods, and I saw the exact same thing that you're talking about right now.
And I don't know if, like, when I was in it, it was really hard to get out of it.
But I felt like exactly what you're describing right now.
Like, yeah, so.
Hey, Reuben.
Look at that fear from when you were younger
and move through it.
And then if you see the eyeball after that,
communicate with it, with your mind.
Like you're projecting your thoughts
and say, what is the purpose of this eyeball?
I'm not kidding.
No, straight up, straight up.
I was going to say boyo-yo-yoing.
I'm not joking.
Even though it sounds funny, but ask questions.
Say, what is the purpose of this eyeball?
of this eyeball and see what comes through. Also, take your visual and pull it back to see if there's
And see what comes through.
more to it than just an eyeball. So it's like you have your eyes closed. You're not using your
physical eyes, right? But your third eye can move around. Your third eye can be on the other side of
the world viewing things, right? Your third eye technology is multidimensional. There are lenses in all of the layers of density and dimension. How do we see light with our eyes closed?
Because you just need a brighter light. Hold on, guys. Hold on. Because you're using what I call
your first sight, right? This is not physical technology.
This is energetic technology.
So, okay.
My soul team says that everything in existence is consciousness.
And consciousness is form, even if we as humans cannot perceive it.
Right?
And that we are all, all of this consciousness is expressing in different
dimensions, meaning places, spaces, expressions, right? But also in layers of density, meaning
consciousness expanding, right? So if you are in meditative state and you're in a trance, right, which is
what meditation does, you're experiencing yourself non-local, right? So you're there,
but you're not there. You're very much in your body, and yet you can also leave your body.
Your consciousness can have the experience of traveling through the universe, right?
You can also have the experience of going within and experiencing almost the exact same thing, right?
We are not local to this physicality.
This physicality is not really even physical at all.
We perceive it that way because it's part of this earth game, right?
But it's not local and
it's not confined. You're not confined to your body. Your soul actually exists within the physical
energetics, but also in the esteric body, the emotional, mental, spiritual. Our souls are miles and miles wide and long and tall, right? So your visuals, are they happening
in your mind's eye on that screen where you replay your memories? Is that screen actually
inside of your head? Is it in front of you? Is there one to the side? Is there one to the back? Every single,
we'll just call it every single part of our multi-dimensionality, we can view. And we can
view from whatever angle we want to. So as you're looking at this eye, pull back as if you're
expanding how much you're able to see and see what else presents to you. And if it's just an eye,
ask it. Are you a gatekeeper? Are you a guardian? What are you? Right? Just ask,
what is this eyeball to me? What are you? Hi, so explain what this eyeball means.
And you'll get answers because we're designed to receive the answers.
I just, I really want to meditate.
On Bridget's level one day.
I just really want to know what that looks like.
Because I have a feeling.
It's fucking wild.
She's like.
Oh my god.
When I meditate.
I'm just like.
I feel like I'm just like there.
I don't know. I don't know.
Do you see light when you meditate? I mean, like, so when I meditate outside,
the light comes in more rapidly than it does inside. And I haven't done what you said,
because I've been hearing people say they meditate and they, they meditate on
their dragon. And you know what I mean? I don't want to fucking like pull my mind's eye and see
a fucking dragon in my head. You should totally play with the dragons. They are not to be afraid,
nothing to fear. Dragons are actually highly benevolent. I call them the great cosmic wisdom
keepers. Um, Ruben, go listenuben, go to Portal to Ascension on
YouTube when you get a minute. I'll see if I can find it for you. And listen to the Dragons
Conference, the most recent one. We've done a few of them. And just listen to everybody talking
about them. They're amazing. They're amazing. They're super multidimensional. They are,
as soon as they are, like they're created with the knowledge
and wisdom of all of the dragons that came before them so the way they mature is through
like emotional and connection right um but yeah and it they're super old like the inception
what did you say, Battle?
I said we inherit our...
I don't like this.
American dragons are different.
I mean,
they're not bound to
any one style of form.
So they can literally change
from a physicality
much higher than ours, not as dense, and they can go into ethereal.
You can see them where they have like a physicality at the front and they'll be ethereal at the back.
Like they are not bound in the same ways.
And if you have a thing for dragons, anyone, you probably have lives and expressions connected to them or have been them or whatever.
This is a great big universe. We've been around for a long time. I'm going to tell you, Bridget.
I dated a girl who was like you before, right?
How was it, man?
How was it?
Like, she knew.
Like, everything you're saying, like, she knew.
And you might know her.
I ain't going to say her name.
You might know her i ain't gonna say her name you might know her um but she she told me that uh she asked me she asked me was i a dragon one day right
and i was like i said i'm curious i said no i don't think it's like that i said but i'm curious
to why you would say that i said because i because I met a teacher of mine, you know, in the martial arts, they call people dragons and stuff like that.
But I met a teacher of mine who told me, he was like, yeah, you know, you, you were, you were, you were a fire snake.
You're a fire serpent. Right. And I was like, like a dragon.
He was like, yeah, something like that. But they're a little different.
They're different types of dragons. I was like, man, I don't want to be no damn dragon.
He was like, no, it's not bad.
I was like, shit, that ain't what I was told.
So for years, for like years, I mean like years, right,
I avoided my teacher because he told me I was a dragon.
my teacher because he told me I was a dragon and it took a long, it took, it took like some old
Native American lady to help me understand that, uh, there were different ideas of what a dragon
was and, and, and a lot of the Western, really Western culture destroyed the, the reputations
of dragons, you know what I'm saying saying so for real battle yeah for real they're
not like misers sitting on piles of gold you know stealing princesses and no that's that's just
that's that's more propaganda no yeah yeah and it actually hindered me so that's why you know
i i tell people i was like yo man it's it's been a journey because you cannot talk to me about none of that stuff because it's like, nah, they're all bad.
But then I was like, you know what?
Even in the Bible, it describes a certain type of dragon.
And it's specific to what it said.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, battle rap, what do you think a dragon is?
I mean, to you, what is a dragon?
Huh?
No, no, no.
So what is a dragon?
You want to see his dragon?
No, listen.
Hold on one second.
Wait, hold on.
Wait, guys.
We'll probably open up another stage.
Melody, she has recording tomorrow.
We're probably going to close this up.
All right, right, Melody?
What do you think?
Yeah, I hate to cut this conversation
but yeah guys open up another space
whoever can do that
that would be awesome it's been a good one
yeah no me or Bridget
or whoever
and we'll all jump on
thank you for being here
Melody thank you we love you
and have fun tomorrow
and thank you for everything
and thank you thank you you're amazing send me a link to the fresh face when y'all put one up
you got it brother
all right guys yeah it's been real um wild talks tonight and uh i just got to get to bed. So that way my voice is well rested.
My body's well rested for tomorrow's studio session.
But yeah, until next time.
Love you all.
Take care.
We love you too.
You're the best.
After hours.
After hours.
Dog killing it.
Don't have too much fun.
Are you going to open it? Let no me or Bridpilling it. Don't have too much fun. Are you going to open it?
Let Nomi or Bridget host it.
Not happening
tonight. Not happening tonight, but
I'll come hang out, maybe.
What about Nomi?
Hey, I appreciate
y'all, y'all.
I got
teenagers, you know what I'm saying? I gotta
be ready tomorrow.
Oh, it sounds like everybody's going go to bed oh no what did I start
hey this was a great show you know what I'm saying
for real
yeah it's been good
goodnight Melly
goodnight sleep well
alright everybody go into
Elmo's space
okay goodnight guys bye
goodnight, guys. Bye.
