Lil Sappies on Cardano with Wab and TAS

Recorded: Jan. 16, 2024 Duration: 1:21:18
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Oh there once was a puffin just the shape of a muffin
And he lived on an island in the bright blue sea
He ate little fishes that were most delicious
And he had them for supper and he had them for tea
But this poor little puffin he couldn't play nothing
For he had nobody to play with at all
So he sat on his island and cried for a while
He felt very lonely, he felt very small
Then along came the fishes and they said
If he wishes you can have us for playmates instead of for tea
So they now play together in all sorts of weather
And the puffin he's pancakes like you and like me
Welcome Wob
Thank you for that wonderful song
I've got another one while we wait
If you guys want to wait
Yeah we've got to wait, go for it
Down by the sea, down by the sea
Where the watermelons grow, where the watermelons grow
Back to my home, back to my home
I dare not go, I dare not go
For if I did, for if I did
My mother would say, my mother would say
Have you ever seen a frog do a handstand on a log
Down where the watermelons grow
That was beautiful
Thank you man
Do you want to go now?
You're Canadian, do some Canadian campfire song or some shit
All Canadian campfire songs are
On like Jack Daniels or Crown Royal
I don't remember them
You're not a very good Canadian
I don't even live in Canada
So that, yeah
We're just waiting on a couple of people
So yeah, if you want to keep entertaining
I don't have any more entertainment
That was it
Laura, help us out
I'm sure you have a voice of an angel
Laura, sing us a Brazilian song
Oh, definitely
Well surely
Of course, I'm already singing
And you're not even hearing it
I'm hoping to bring some more people up here
Waiting for some replies
We need to get more views
We need to get like
There's so many people on Cardano
That love to bitch and moan
And cause drama
So I reckon we should fill out this room
At like 500 people, no?
That should be a good drama spaces on Cardano
Yeah, there were like 500 people signed up
Yeah, it's like 500 people on the chain
All of them love drama
That should be enough
Oh, we've got Cardman here
Cardman, what's up?
It's been so long since I've heard his beautiful voice
Yeah, it's been a long time
I'm just here to look pretty though
The wheels on the bus go round and round
No, we're not doing that
That song is
Let's go, Eddie, let's go
That's the worst like
Nursery rhyme ever
Don't take it shine, Eddie
No, I'm sure he's got something better in the tank
Like this guy's a professional dancer
Like I'm sure
Yeah, you're right
You're right
I actually don't know if I do
I do my art with my
With my body
This is your one job
You had one job
It's not my one job
Other jobs
And NFT fire protocols
That's your other job
This is your main job
In a previous life, right?
This was your one job
I did do a lot of
I see you driving around
But that one's not
A nursery rhyme
Go on, sing it
Give us some CeeLo Green
I'm going with the girl I love
And I'm like
Forget it so much
And fuck her too
And if I was richer
I'd still be with ya
Well, ain't that some shit
Ain't that some shit
Although there's pain
In my chest
I still wish you the best
There you go
Forget you
Yeah, fuck you, bro
Where's my whitelist, bro?
I don't have one for you
There's a lot of people
That were supposed to
Like come up on stage
But I guess they're late
Uh, this is Web3
That's how it goes
Uh, to give you a little bit
Of background about this one
I'm really excited about it
I'm more OG than most of you
Seals in the audience
I minted seals
Held them since mint
And I've bought seals
I'm now a barrier collector
That's my trade of choice
I'm not going to tell you
What my trade of choice is
Lil Sappy's
Because you guys are going to
Front run me
And that's not going to happen
So when Wob DM'd me about this
I was really, really excited
And then when Wob decided
To get on Mushrooms
And tweet out
What he tweeted the other day
I was like
I guess that's how we're gonna
That's how we're gonna go
If you didn't expect anything
I still probably would have
Tweeted the same thing
And I'm glad I did
Because it's caused
A bunch of people
You doubled down
It's so many people
Crying on the timeline
And it brings me joy
I can't think of anything
Better than hearing
The old god of Cardano
Cry and cope about
Something that's gonna pump
And then they're gonna
Or they're just gonna
Keep fighting it
Relentlessly
While it continues to go up
And they fade money
They weren't gonna fade it
While they were fighting
They were like
Blah blah blah blah
But I'm probably gonna mint
That's the best one
Where it's like
I want a virtue signal
But I actually
I'll still participate
Why are we still pretending
Like we can't just do
Whatever we want
I fucking hate it here
We do though
But sometimes
We have to justify it
For some reason
You're right
Fucking send it
Who cares bro
So there's no real agenda
Do you wanna give us
Some background
How this applies
Or how this ties
Why you're
Why this is being done
And all that good stuff
Can kind of
Go to Mango
Because Mango
Is one of like
The first people
That I sort of
Spoke to about this
A while back
We've kind of had
Greater thesis
When it comes to
NFTs right
And there's a lot
Of different ways
Things that it ties into
I think NFTs
As a concept
Haven't been
Massively explored
And I think
That's mainly because
People are afraid
Of doing things
That involve
Concepts like
And liquidity
And all these things
That tend to scare
The average person
People are so focused on
There's like
10,000 NFTs
And we have
And you know
Blah blah blah
And that's like
Kind of what people
Accepted as like
The status quo
Of what NFTs are
And I think
I think that model
Is actually quite
In a lot of
Different ways
And I think
That there's
Or centric
Value structures
And decentralize
Brand building
Governance
Through like
Social consensus
With communities
Hasn't been
And we can go
Really deep
In terms of
Like network
Digital nations
These things
Are going to
And expand
But that's
That's a bit
So I don't
Want to go
Just to start
We had this
Concept of
Not necessarily
Wanting to
Like I think
Seals exist
And there's
Different regions
And markets
Our community
Always wanted
As you know
Engaged a lot
With Cardano
With Solana
With Algorand
And we have
Like a presence
Without necessarily
Having NFTs
Being able
Interesting
Necessarily
Communities
Communities
Environment
Themselves
Structures
Derivatives
Collections
Collections
Participating
Themselves
Collection
Collections
Collections
Collections
Collection
Conclusion
Collections
Collections
Accelerator
Incentivize
Collections
Succeeding
Commitment
Comfortable
Collections
Collections
Independently
Outperforming
Comfortable
Collections
Collection
Incentivized
Participate
Excitement
Everything
Effectively
Onboarding
Decentralized
Facilitated
Benefiting
Collections
Collections
Derivative
Effectively
Collections
Collections
Collection
Collection
Opportunity
Connections
Themselves
Absolutely
Summarized
Questioning
Completely
Contribute
Derivative
Characters
Collection
Collection
Definitely
Passionate
Especially
Introduced
Collection
Collections
Completely
Replicated
Collectibles
Always good
Collectibles
Powerhouse
Requesting
Requesting
Appreciate
Philippines
Separation
Definitely
Constantly
Especially
Onboarding
Experiencing
Successful
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Whitelists
already have the motive now we just need to make sure that they're able to get their wallets ready
awesome i don't know who is next all right kev i'm just gonna hop in here quick
uh i'll and then i'll rotate down just want to say uh hi to everybody wob the team over there
at little sappies i'm super excited i see the content that's already been dropped on on giphy
and stuff like that um little sappies are extremely cute and i'm super excited to to have them over
here on cardano um we were speaking about it earlier today like the onboarding process and
people being like okay how do i do it um we've recently been exploring on you know dogenals and
stuff like that over there on doge and we experienced that recently where it's like okay like how do we
get the wallet like how do we load this up like how do i reset the state like it's a common occurrence
but anyone that's willing to go do it and like i say okay yeah i'll go support you um it's a pretty
simple onboarding process and yeah we'll definitely get you the tools and information needed when it
comes to minting super easy super quick super safe um but yeah i just want to come up essentially and
say what's up to the team and a super bullish for this project much love lua uh one of us are donno
legends crypto no no no i don't want that introduction because i'm in the i'm in the presence of legends
here i just want to shout out to uh to little sappies first uh to uh mango for people who don't know
um like i i followed mango uh ever since wab shouted him out as like the top meme maker for
for sappies i remember back in a tweet so um mango is a is a is a amazing like takes it beyond just the
the jif jif and then the team that they have with them uh from what i've heard so far with lil sook
and and with wab in the background i'm excited for this i had one question for lo sook um on the
plushies are you going to be able to deliver them towards the united states for plushies only reason
why i'm asking because i do have kids who collect a lot and i and we we've gotten like the little
pudgies we've been to walmart and stuff like that so i was going to ask if you guys are going to be able
to get these to the us yeah uh thank you so much crypto cap for uh for your question and also a
little support for apache's um definitely i think i i mean our focus is on asia and that's why i i also
became the part of the team but i think it's not that we want we want to favor one region uh over the
other like our focus is of course to get uh all the ip out that we can like peripherate as far out
into the globe as possible but uh in terms of like expertise or our regional like location base i think
uh there will be some you know uh prioritization uh prior prior prioritization of uh where we will you
know hit the markets first i guess that that if that answers your question clearly uh yeah and and
yeah yeah yeah and we will try all means it's not just plushies that we want to roll out you know
anything and everything possible to make the sappy space known in all these regions uh we we are after
it thank you very much awesome thanks kev uh gq go for it hey yo um i i gotta say when um when you
mentioned plushies i just a tear rolled down my face slowly and sparkled and the cutest way is it
hit the ground and splashed because i have seven kids and three of them are daughters and when i
walked in one of them had a sappy uh not a sappy had a pudgy penguin and the other one had a hello kitty
and i'm like oh my god this is this is it so if if those you know my request if those can come out
before christmas like i've got half my kids set and that would make life a lot easier for me so you
know i'm going to take this time to be selfish and uh and and just you know state my personal needs
um and hopefully they're met no but on a serious note um i i do want to say that i've been in in
both communities for a long time i've been in seals for for over a year um and i'm always listening i'm
not as active um and uh the ape society is you know the number one project for a reason i think
the best devs on cardano are all in one team which is extremely bullish so i'm uh looking forward to
uh the support and the collaboration um me being on both uh chains primarily like i want to make sure
that if anybody has any questions i ask whatever there's a lot of little tricks and stuff when it
comes to cardano so you know i don't know if anybody wants alpha spaces on like the little
tricks of the trade to make sure you can succeed uh over here but i'm happy to do those and i guess i
have i do have one um question and maybe this could be uh for either mango a little silk or even wob
uh you know about uh let's say choosing cardano and maybe this is more wob because wob i've seen you
you know you've had some lunches with with lena and uh the clays um i've seen you engage with charles
and and you know go back and forth a little bit and that's been entertaining um and you seem to be
you know fairly cautious when you make your moves uh so what what do you think did did it what pushed
it over the edge you know what made you say you know yeah let's let's talk like how did that
conversation go down and what do you think the big um uh the big thing the big surprise that most
people on eth are going to see when they come over to um sappy seals cardano um so i think mango
can probably take it in a sec but i'll cover like how exactly the conversation started so
property mango um you know mentioned to me he's like okay i'm gonna choose a chain like i'm talking
to this chain and that chain and you're speaking to pretty much every chain and i know that like
almost all of them and this is why i find it funny where there was like people on the timeline
saying it was like a liquidity circle like a cash grab or whatever the like the fud was um
because all these other chains and their bd departments were like holy shit like
please like do it on our chain like you know however many you want to mint like come over and
do it um and they were like really wanting them on on on you know i won't name the names but
won't name the chains but the established l1s let's say that at the very least um and then
obviously cardano came into the conversation and obviously that that's one of the chains that has
some of the most friction when it comes to evm uh there's
a lot of issues when it comes to let's say compatibility and migration because they are
just different um what do you call them virtual machines but uh you know i spoke to mango and i
was like well look we have these people have been a lot of people on cardano for a long time have
wanted exposure to seals in some way and i you know i can't drop a collection or do anything on cardano
because well like people don't want to hear this but as a business decision it wouldn't make sense
because you know the limited upside and such and that that makes it very hard for us to be able to
do anything on cardano or really like experiment and i know congo and i have had discussion many
discussions before and calls and like you know let's figure some shit out like let's do something
but we can never really find an angle but here you know there's an opportunity for someone to
you know start a a legitimate project and and really like grind their way through the ecosystem
and rise to the top and i think that like that sort of angle or journey for for a sapi related
brand to be able to sort of do that is is a great angle and um that's kind of what i mentioned the
mango and i said look we already have the demand there and like people really have always wanted
sapi's on cardano and you know we're connected with the top project um you know ape society and and
their holes are awesome and they love us and there's a bunch of other people here that were
you know they've i've had so many conversations with top builders on cardano and like i've worked
directly with them just never nothing's ever come to fruition and i thought well why don't you guys
just take these connections and just go and plug yourselves in here and then go and do something
awesome right and that's kind of how the conversation came around and i think mango can maybe actually
touch further on why he like made the final decision to go with cardano over other chains because
again like i just want to emphasize like i'm not calling the shots here i'm just giving advice
in the background in terms of like oh you need this connection you need that connection or um you know
what do you think is a good idea like i'm always giving my opinions because i want the very best for
like anyone that uses the sapi seals ip to succeed and i'll always help people succeed as long as they're
like having good intentions and so that's kind of like the role that i'm sort of playing again like this
isn't my collection but i'm happy to help um and i guess mango yeah you maybe want to touch on this
yeah absolutely i mean web covered most of it it was an opportunity where you know i know that there
was a huge demand on cardano for it and i knew if we set a proper team up we'd be able to go in there
and actually start building onto the blockchain uh on a side note on one of the reasons i was actually
looking around for blockchains was because i personally love ethereum you know i've been there my whole
essentially my whole time in web 3 but uh you know this was again you know previous stuff we've
done where we've worked on stuff where such as i'm not saying this is what's going to happen here but
trade markets doing uh interrupt over uh interruptible metadata so many things that require lots of
transactions and something that has been actually on my mind for a while that i thought would really
work better on a different blockchain would be when you want to build something where you require
numerous transactions whether it's you know again i'm not saying we're gonna do trade markets right
now we're focusing on getting the best traits out there it's just an example of things we've done in
the past that led me to this conclusion which was when people wouldn't you know get trades they'd have
to do things that are going to change nft on the blockchain and everything you know it piles up
transaction after transaction after transaction after transaction and that was one of the main
reasons where you know i started looking around for blockchains and you know we have the strong dev team
you know we have a fancy if you guys know fancy he's one of the best known devs and uh ethereum like
great guy he was one of the people that actually helped when we took over froggy friends from zero
he was the one that built everything himself essentially like we put if anything on a fund
you know he basically funded almost all of it and he stayed up all night he's the type of person
where you know if you're like here's what we need he'll find a way to get it done and you know when
we're working there that's what we found like okay we're starting to run into issues where you know
gas fees are adding up even on uh you know especially when they're in a bull market when you have to pay
0.04 0.05 eth in a comparison that's like you could say like 400 it could potentially be 400
to make a transaction such as changing a trait on a character and these are the type of things that
led us to eventually start exploring these blockchains and you know i was thinking about
it we're talking about it there's demand on cardano for it we're able to get a good team on there
we're able to do great things on there and this was ultimately the choice that i and i'm sure it was
the proper choice and something that you know keep my head up on it because it's something i'm excited
about and yeah especially with the team that you know has been really supportive and not just the team
i want to give a shout out honestly to everyone all the asian communities that we reach out to
that have been helping us and you know really taking a part in it that's something that i'm
really grateful for because i do know that there's a lot of people that you know stick to their nfts
like going on strictly a bean or a zuki or a pudgy but there's people really out there willing to
help you out and you know actually they love the feedback and you know i love working with them so
you know thank you to everyone especially the pledge asia community that's been helping us
yeah they've been awesome the the pudgy asia crew as well like i know um i've been kind of like
shown and and told like they've they've they've definitely like contributed and wanted to support
and and obviously like when it will come over a minute and such and they've had a lot of good
opinions in terms of you know like like the trait from my understanding like the trait stuff is
obviously like the team is designing them but you've gotten community feedback and kind of iterated with
the the asian communities on on eth in terms of like what do you think is cool what do you think
you would be represented by do you want to design your own and and and you know we can add a sort
of interpretation of that to to the collection and like you you guys have done like the back and forth
stuff with the asian communities like you're not just shooting from the hip i know you guys are
or like have lived in korea or are korean but like there's obviously people from like japan and china
that have given you feedback on what is authentic to them and i think that goes a long way in terms of
let's say building in public and iterating and such which i mean you guys have proven so
i mean that's just a good thing to see and you something you would probably want to hear so
well said and it's also pretty bullish that a lot of people from ada coming up here are just like
if you have any questions anything at all you need anything just hit us up kind of thing so it's
really cool to see you guys thank you uh where's the fud i came i was in pvp mode like i was i
i went to the shop i went to the shop i don't drink caffeine okay i went to the shop and i bought like
a fucking jug of coffee and i was like you know i'm gonna drink this i'm gonna get amped up like
i'm ready um but no one's come up to like yeah i'm saying i'm not gonna name and i'm just gonna call
them out but he was like yeah you ran out of the room and went on a burner as soon as you said you
were going to look for people so that gives you an indication of where we are right now that's so
soft bro just what's the problem who cares dude it was a lot of you trying to take all liquidity from
cardano bro are you trying to like everybody yeah let's just role play come on what are you trying
to do you're trying to you're trying to take this is that no the last time the last time i've role
played on spaces the cardano community um cropped the audio and put it on youtube and basically
tried to frame me as a scammer and all the big influencers started retweeting this post as if i
was being serious when it was me being sarcastic and then tried to cancel me doing that so i'm not
doing the roleplay thing again although i might just to cause some more mischief and then cause some
more drama but you know hey you hey yo go for it trashy p hey yo buddy hey yo uh what is this uh
the wab tell me some history because from what i hear you like to throw projects and make some
comedy we got some comedy over here are you trying to take over our islands
then you have like a isn't that like a nazi collection you're using didn't have like racist
jewish okay hold no trash hold trash hold on this mfr made me do a three hour space with a guy that
eth does not know called monad and it was one of the worst nights of my life it was like i went to
the psychiatric ward and argued with a guy who would agree with you after an hour of arguing with them and
then flop on the point like 10 minutes later and you'd argue with the same thing over and over and
over not doing that no it yeah sorry trash p i had to vent go for it ah dude i was just trying to stir
up a little bit of nests no i'm actually excited about the uh the wab uh i i do want a little bit of
history though like the original wab what was what was your inspiration on that the original wab what do
you mean the original collection well like what was your inspiration on that because i've noticed
like you troll a lot of people with the seals and it was like based around comedy a lot do you mean
do you mean like the art he went to fiverr and what do you mean actually no the um original artist
did on the team and he's a crack designer if you check all of our recent designs and illustrations and
stuff that's him he's very talented in fact he got mad at me because i intentionally made him
do certain things with the art to make it more mimetic that actually made it worse and he got
really annoyed with me but that's the struggle as an artist right where you someone just tells you
like the thing that you're making like the thing that you're doing which is beautiful like stop doing
that and like do something else um so obviously that caused some issues but no not from fiverr in fact
um artist is very very talented uh what ended up happening was he did three different designs of like
totally different things and seals kind of just stuck because they just look like for lack of a
better word they look retarded and it was kind of funny um and at the time you know i saw the thing
and i was like yep that's it like that that's the one um and then we kind of went with sappy seal so
that's kind of that's the law that's the back story so yeah that's what i like that's what i like
that's why i like the sappy seals because you control it and it's common it's like a
retarded zeal that's why i love it yummy is here who's the artist of the little saddens
forgot to introduce you yummy you're one of the one of the team members do you want to introduce
yourself welcome to the stage hey guys yeah yummy here um i'm at a conference right now so i can't
really talk long kind of out in the hallway um a lot of people have known me from my last uh last
account they got banned from that stupid blitz stuff but um i'm a i'm a doctor by trade do a lot
of surgeries been doing uh digital artistry stuff for 30 plus years writer author got books like draco
and roar so a lot of different stuff that's been out there there's been more drama for us to do the
original design of this versus the spaces tonight i was a promise a lot of drama wab you gotta you gotta
show up on that my man we've got a lot of people requesting so you might get your wish uh it's kind
of we're playing roulette here with the uh with the invites yeah but i just wanted to pop in say hi and
man this has been this has been fun it's a long road uh just kind of coming to this it's not a
it's not just a hodgepodge team we've all been uh around this for quite a while a lot of veterans in the
spaces hey guys like there's no way i would even attach myself even slightly if i didn't have like
massive conviction in the people behind the project i don't think people understand that like i wouldn't
just be like promoting or like supporting any old garbage like the the team is like seriously cracked
to the point where like i if i had no like even support or advising of them like i would feel bearish for
myself for not if that makes sense no these guys are more qualified to run sappy seals than you
are like hey all right let's not take let's not take it too far let's not take it too far but um
they're very they're very solid
awesome trams you've been up here for a while so uh for those don't that don't know trams is a
big collector of cardano nfts and one of the a very important community member go for it trams
oh that's uh completely not true holy shit and my arm is very tired it's been up here for some time
but i just wanted to come up here very quickly and uh disappoint wab once more by not fighting him
and instead um just express my gratitude because you know i'm one of the guys that's been around for
a little while and i recognize that events like today don't happen overnight this is uh this is a result
of you know hundreds of hours of work over time with multiple groups um day in day out expressing
their conviction and showing up to do whatever it is that they said that they were going to do so
first of all i just want to uh geez disappoint you again and say thank you i guess in my polite canadian
tone um thank you the second thing i want to ask is uh you know much more selfish of me of course now i think
some of you who know me understand that i represent a rather large duck contingent and you know i i
heard conversation about uh certain traits having an asian flavor and i just wanted to make sure that
there wasn't going to be any peaking duck on the menu and uh you know i'd like to have that cleared
up right away so that i can sleep tonight and make sure that i can participate in what i think is going
to be one of the more monumental moments for uh emerging of two chains which have just really
separate but equal amazing groups of people so i'm super stoked um let's see seals suck there's your
fud check that box okay uh oh boy what's next uh no man i'm just uh guys you know um you know i've
been here since cardano launched their nfts and i've managed to secure a couple decent collections
along the way so you know for me to see really these two completely different groups start to come
together and not just words anymore in a meaningful way it it tells me that you know we're all on the right
path and despite all the real thought out there and you know the real groups that are trying to
hold us all down they just can't do it you know we're breaking through um and so i'm stoked my voice
is cracking i'm i'm squawking through my beacon i'm gonna hang up and and jump off the mic here but
just say thanks uh once more and i'm super stoked to see where this goes
well said thank you so much streams for coming up uh time go for it hello hello i might have some like
spicy takes some questions eddie why are you up here buddy like you you're not even on cardano get
go do your homework he's flirting that's how he floats sorry i can't i can't hear your mic do you
want to say again it was the first coin i ever got into i don't know i need a lie detector test on that
one anyways um yeah so listen i think there's uh i think the cardano community is a little like oh wow
like where'd y'all come from like why now right and i think it's great that you're wanting to like
utilize cardano technology um and all of that right but i think there's a difference between like using
cardano technology and like kind of like integrating with cardano like in the sense of like the community
and whatnot i mean i i don't mean to be like rude not i'm not trying to be rude or anything but i'm
i'm kind of like i just don't know a lot of like like i don't know the artists like little sook like
i don't know you either i haven't seen you guys in cardano spaces at all uh like wob earlier was kind
of talking about how oh the artwork we're like consulting with the eth people and it's kind of
like oh well like if you're gonna be on cardano wouldn't you also kind of maybe wanna you know talk to
the cardano community a little bit like obviously there's no rules it's an open market y'all can do
whatever you want but i can see like that being like a narrative or some pushback where that's kind
of why people might consider it cash grabby or like not cash grabbing necessarily but just like
oh it's easy it's a big ip from eth we're gonna like come over to cardano because they're like
the small chain or whatever so i can kind of see that as a narrative and also i don't know i have
a question for wob because i know that some of the proceeds are uh or not the proceeds wow this is a
charity some of the profits from the from the men uh you're gonna go back and buy you know sweep the
floor and whatnot so my question to wob is would you still support a sapi sales uh derivative project if
they weren't going to like inherently reinvest into the direct project okay so there's a lot of
questions there and you've decided to play main character tonight so um i'll i'll go through i'll
run through them and obviously let's uh jump in um wherever she sees fit uh so today i learned that um
asians on ethereum are actually different to asians on cardano which is a revelation to me in fact i
didn't realize that like they were so different that their feedback would be you know drastically
varying um depending on which chain they're from but thank you for enlightening me on that and
you know i appreciate that uh so um i think the the the the context is that like
at the end of the day they were they were choosing a chain right and they didn't necessarily know which to
go for and you know it was my suggestion i was gonna say well if you're gonna do something big and
you're really gonna go hard then the community that you know is most aligned with seals as it stands
and and there has been massive demand on that chain was cardano and so like naturally of course you know
they're here now they're having these conversations you know they haven't minted yet they're still um
you know integrating and like getting to know the people in the community um and it was it was kind of
the decision that sort of happened overnight and of course like sure yeah i'm sure you would want
someone to you know integrate with the community and such maybe before making this decision but like
i mean that's this is part of the process right because like how else would they have been integrated
it's a bit like chicken or the egg right it's like when should they have if they made the decision
last minute based on like some guidance from me right like i don't know if it's like necessarily fair to
really like have that perspective um what did i miss something else with that question or was there
like uh anything else yeah at the end it was uh would you support any derivative sappy seals project
maybe perhaps in a way that you are with little sappies if they weren't inherently going to buy up the
floor again because i know there was another derivative project uh where it was like one seal a day
uh and they also like from the get-go from the start they were kind of uh you know exclaiming oh
i'm i'm gonna like buy up the floor i'm gonna buy up the floor so i i just see a little bit of a
similarity here so i was just curious like say i don't know large sappies or giant sappies like
would you support them if they weren't going to like reinvest quote unquote back into the original
project so with the everydays right that guy pretty much for two years straight drew one of one
sappy seals that were memes or like relevant to like what was currently going on and and i think
regardless of whether or not he swooped funds i think he's someone that did deserve to reap some
benefit and some profit from the amount of effort and culture that he put into the ecosystem i mean
people love him he's got his own little cult growing on where um you know he he's not propped
up by seals he has his own community which is always what you always want to see right um and again it's
just context dependent it's like you know if you're if you're if your heart is really in it
and you're really a grinder and you care and you're going to do good things then you know i don't have
it i don't have any requirements will i bat as hard i can't say i would it just again context um but i
mean the whole the whole reason why the again it's not just like sweeping seals or whatever and that's
it's not like one exit pump it's just i mean you can acquire those slowly over time using the set
percentage like it's not just like one big like exit pump right and the whole point is that again
it's on your balance sheet and it supports the total liquidity locked in the sappy ecosystem because
you're you're you what i'm wanting is for people to uh supply liquidity on dexes and amms in order to
reinforce sappy and in fact what you'll tend to find is the more that sappy goes up the derivatives
tend to go up as well and the more the derivatives go up the more sappy tends to go up and that like
the main og collection tends to go up and that's the sort of flyable that exists and naturally you
would think well okay if every one of these like you know franchise collections or sister collections
that are dropping and and producing value or contributing then sappy goes up and naturally all
of these collections will also go up as well and so it's more of like a forward-looking
you know decentralized value accrual loop that allows every single one every single participant
to sort of you know work together to push the entire ecosystem up which naturally helps
the people participating and it provides a social trust layer that means that sappy seal holders know that
they're going to be safe in minting this thing because there's good it's not going to grift them
they're not going to get liquidity extracted from them it's just going to benefit the entire
ecosystem and provide more liquidity for their existing investment which provides great incentive
for them to support what is being created and i think that's very very important as well and so
my answer to your question is that you know maybe it depends you know there's some collections that
haven't or some collections i've actively shunned and said look this is a grift like don't mint this
thing because like i know they're just going to run away with the money um and i would expect that any
good team would follow that ethos and um would be worthy of like the the support from like the
community and the team and me and you know everyone involved really wants this overall ecosystem to
succeed so again it's it's context dependent but naturally this works the best way for everyone
involved because you get volume and liquidity going in from the seal community and then you get the social
trust layer that allows seals to feel comfortable and actually like jumping over and minting this collection
and supporting it no yeah i i understand loud and clear i wanted to say hi to little sook i haven't
i haven't heard from you i'm out of spice so now it'll be nice and i yeah i just look forward to seeing
you in more spaces uh maybe you'll be in more cardano spaces and whatnot but i mean obviously you have
tasks behind you so i'm sure you'll be able to you know connect with a lot of individuals and i don't
know why there's some thumbs down oh he got booted from the stage never mind all right anyways um
appreciate you letting me up here and asking questions um yeah new page time um yeah we got to get her on
uh super vibes please stop yes oh my gosh you know that's obvious let's go oh yeah that's obvious
all right i'll talk to you guys later but um appreciate you guys this is really cool i think
this is the first space you have for little sappies so far so um yeah i'm looking forward to it awesome
thanks so much time all right wob i've got good news for you so we've got three hands up here i am very
very very confident that one at least one third is going to be yeah there he is there it is yeah
one third is going to be fud so let's fucking go uh let's go yeah actually let's just start with it
sorry johnny and nudes we will get to you right after uh balbowski i'm told you're the feds i don't
know what your deal is but i do like you so let's go what do you have to say nothing but good stuff
really i just uh wanted to bring some some different energy to the low energy that you guys are
experiencing right now and start by asking just simpleton questions just simple questions
when is the mint date what is the mint price let's start there
what i did not expect that um
mango and sook i don't think you guys want to answer that yet do you it's up to you totally up to you
no not yet but one of the biggest things that you know we talked about from the beginning was you
know we want to work this two-way bridge where we could bring over to ethereum you know i already
mentioned it summarized it down and we haven't you know right while we're still working with those
communities bring them over we want to see how many we're able to bring in over because we do want to
see how many people how much demand there is to look at the supply but uh yeah well we haven't we
don't have a we have an idea of how much it's going to be but you know we want to make sure that
if we are able to bring in enough east communities as well into cardano and you know get their wallets
out there with the guide and everything that we account for them okay thank you and just like
trying to appreciate since it's not something that's on cardano currently like what's the deal
with seals what's the history there is it a fascination with the animal i don't know if that's
a land animal or a mammal or what like what's the story there is the mammal okay it's a mass
the community is it how deep like how long are people holding what's the floor over there
are you guys donating to wwf why seals
i think wav could actually answer why seals but yes i mean for us as community members seals has
always been you know for ethereum for like the longest time it's been a community you want to be
a part of a part of just because everyone's engaged there they have if anyone says like oh i'm my penguin
one of my penguin is me they have a whole philosophy behind it for seals their brand is basically their
culture and if you ever look at a seal holder it's like a bandwagon effect where you know once they get
the profile picture once they join the community and this goes beyond the main collection which is
what i love about this whole you know people call it derivative people call it franchise whatever you
want to call it ecosystem is when people join in they jump on that bandwagon too and it's it's fun
how everyone starts participating in it but as for why the seals wav could explain the whole animal
slash cat looking aspect to it yeah i mean um there's not much to say other than my discord picture
since i was 15 i made my discord account was this little fat seal that you probably found on google
images little fat seal that's like floating in water it's like it's green water and he's just looking at
the camera and he just looks dumb as fuck and so yeah and that's that's the law behind it i just thought
it was kind of funny um and there's not yeah there's not really much more to seals other than
that and then aside from the fact that like seals actually as like an animal or like an animal like
there's so many seal viral videos that go that just go viral because they're just hilarious like
seals are just funny to look at like the weirdest animal ever like they're just hella fat like in a
way where they literally can't move their own body mass um and they do like if you've ever gone to like a
zoo or some shit and you see a seal in the water those guys just like spin around and they'll
literally like bump into walls and like like sometimes they just stand no they just float there
and they just turn around in circles for like minutes and it's like what the fuck are you doing
but it's kind of i kind of fuck with that a little bit you know they're all welsh yeah exactly so um
yeah i think they're funny and um also in terms of actual you're talking about business side of
things right there hasn't been a breakout seal character that has really um sort of gone global
there's been some things in like pingu and whatever that like had some seal characters
there's of course like siratan and like some others in like asia but they're very niche and
they have their own little like niche audience there and obviously like they're somewhat of a cultural
export but it's not in the same way that like we're trying to go global in terms of
really being what when people think of a seal we're almost rewriting what they believe to be
a seal and we become the de facto image in people's brains um and that's kind of like the long-term goal
and i think that market is completely uncornered no one has ever cracked it and like i mean who else
is going to crack it apart from us um so that's kind of like seals business context
awesome thanks boboski uh
uh nudes and then uh johnny no no no no i'm sorry i hope i'm sorry
one more go for it go for it yeah just on gang just on gang gang why are you breaking up issues
come on we don't want to smack them up don't bring up my boy issues he's not even the room to defend
himself there's no reason to bring them up issues all right real spit don't bring up issues
what what are you talking about we ride together we die together all right don't bring up issues
is that a person or what are you talking about
what am i talking about you just heard me don't bring up issues real spit
who brought up issues what do you what do you mean oh now you're gonna play me like i'm dum-dum
shut the fuck up
i don't know what's going on right now um
how much cardano hold on by the way oh sorry and i did want to bring up you guys have a doctor
dot east has you met our doctor on cardano
doctor dot east do we have a doctor dot east it was the trauma doctor who said he wants some drama
in this space and i just wanted to introduce him to our doctor on cardano dr oz he's not a real doctor
though oh dr oz that guy um the guy that says he has the only cardano seal on cardano which isn't
even real like it's not a real seal sounds like him oh do you know what's hilarious oh i just
realized um there's the same people that were calling this like a liquidity grab or suck or
whatever you want to call it were the same people that were tiffy maxis and tiffy literally just
sold you guys cardano seals that she drew herself so there's a bit of a contradiction there it's not
really making sense but um yeah i just wanted to comment that i missed tiffy as well yeah those
are my people so watch how you talk about them all right mike jack fuck them fuck them you're such
a troll it was like issues what um new or nudes and then johnny you tripped me out really bad there
belbowski so props yo what's going on thanks a lot congo and a big shout out to the ape society for
um facilitating this and the little sappies uh welcome to cardano it's a pretty crazy community
as you might have uh gotten a sense of and there's a long history of um uh asian participants in our
ecosystem the blockchain itself was founded in uh japan and uh one of our founding entities in
mergo is based there our main uh d5 platform or at least the most well-known min swap is based in
vietnam and there's a huge um proponent of people over there um who are really active in the ecosystem
because they're not always on twitter and for a long time people have like kind of envisioned how
can we kind of bring this segment of cardano um together with some of the people that we talk to
and um i put it in the um comments and and i'll just pin it up to the top for your reference but
there's a whole eastern town hall with a lot of great people there from japan and especially vietnam
um that i think would be great for you guys to link up with and um you know chat with and again
just like bringing people together no matter where we come from i think we all have probably a lot more
things in common so i think it's awesome and just wanted to say a big fat welcome to you all and i
guess my only question uh that i'll use the space for is can we look forward to meeting you at some of
the live events i know devrin from the ape community is involved with rare evo we have coming
up and we have a flagship nft conference that goes on also in las vegas this year nft xlv so
can we look forward to meeting you then
i think so i would love to uh meet you irl uh i'm a really big uh supporter and
actually people in korea or in asia see me too much and they're just like oh six here again
so definitely we'll bump into one of those uh big cardano events i was there actually last year in
during nft nyc uh i really love the cardano community vibes in the jungle uh really had fun
actually a whole pack of penguins were there so uh was really enjoyable and looking forward to seeing
you anywhere across the world like be it in las vegas be it in asia and definitely uh it's one of my
goals to really establish the community uh not just for cardano but also little sappies i mean it's
it goes hand in hand right if we have an event for little sappies it's going to be for cardano as well
so uh really looking for uh towards uh connecting with more more builders and uh in cardano chain and
also like being support uh being able to support you guys as well as much as we receive help i think
thyme also brought like a lot of very like great questions like uh you guys are new to this chain
like what kind of efforts are you making uh but i think as much as we receive uh support and welcome
from past i and the cardano family itself i think we we will also prove uh in in this year or next i mean
in a very short uh period of time how much we can support uh cardano like backwards as well
so i think it's like a win-win very win-win relationship and looking forward to uh meeting
you guys she's so based the whole i told you i won't repeat it but you know what i mean
uh johnny go for it what think you try to come down to my chain i you know young cardano every seal
coming to cardano can come down to the beach we have approval meeting every night can i see you at the
yeah we gotta suit and team we gotta get you in a porky space that'll be absolutely hilarious seals and
porkies together finally finally um thank you so much johnny uh cardano review or sorry no price pro
cardano review and then let's go to daily hey thanks for having me up that's gonna be a tough
act to follow but i have two questions and i'm going to try to keep it brief uh first question i
wanted to know is there any formality in the relationship like a contract uh between little
sappies and the seals themselves just curious on that from high level a contract between those
sappies and seals uh mango did you want to oh yeah i was gonna say that there isn't really anything
like even uh even when uh i think i heard a question before sorry i'm at work so like i try
catching most of it but you know sometimes i lose on stuff but um i even heard something about like oh
is there like a mandatory sweep uh that was actually never anything that uh was brought up it was more so
something from our end that we're like okay we want to participate in something that uh seals i think
they haven't released that information yet but we want to participate in something they're going
to do they're going to open something up and in order to participate in it you need seals and that
was you know part of the whole where people think oh it must be like a mandatory thing to sweep seals
that's not it it's more so where we want to get sales that be able to participate in something that
they're going to release after what you know i'm pretty sure rive hasn't released that information yet
but uh if but yeah i just wanted to bring that point out there but no there isn't any contract or
any thing we've talked about was more so community based where we've been talking uh more more you
know informally just you know hey here's the communities here's the people that you know
really want to build this what do you think about this it was more so just advice okay thanks for
clarifying that i the only reason i'm asking actually it's not to do with what you mentioned it was
regarding if disagreements should arise i i don't know the relationship between you two i just know
that different disagreements tend to arise over time i'm not saying it will but that's one of those
things where you really need a contract in place to help when things go really right or really wrong
but um i just i will clarify there um i have a very um crypto let's say friendly or forward-looking
perspective on how nfts and crypto should be done and so you know i'm very aware that you can't control
art you can't control who can put what on the blockchain um and you know whether or not let's
say mango goes rogue and he he rugs or whatever like i'm not gonna be able to do anything with
that right like i can't stop that um that can happen to anyone you know you've got sbf who is
you know hidden in plain sight like it can happen um and you know no amount of contracts can stop
something like that especially when it's on chain especially when there's anonymity you know all these
sort of things um and obviously respect to people's privacy as well and i think you know social
consensus and you know credibility and trust in fact sometimes works out better than a lot of
those things and so you know again i wouldn't i would i know that i know these guys are definitely
not just random people and they're going to be here for the long haul and so i i don't think it's
necessary to have everything contractually defined nor do i want to be joint at the hip in that kind
of way um the way that we're sort of running i think maybe we were here at the start um where i kind
of covered like how exactly we're approaching the decentralized brand building where we're you know
releasing a particular license that's basically going to allow anyone to kind of do something
like this and legally without having to directly contract with us um and there'll be a whole system
in place for that mango and sook here are just basically front running that and being one of the
first to be able to although that we do have already have like existing drift collections but they would be
one of the more like let's say hyped um collections undertaking something like this so
that will exist it won't be like direct contract one-to-one we're like let's say me and seals and
and they'll put a little sappy but like um it's it's going to exist in terms of a license that will
retrofit into exactly what they're conducting here i've just had some bottlenecks because of our legal team
but um apart from that like it will be underway so yeah i appreciate that sentiment and i i heard you
echo that earlier when you put your stamp of approval on the team and i think at this point
that's perfectly adequate i i think that's really all you can ask from anybody even with a formal
agreement um so i i think it's a really good mindset around that and i want to jump over just to
question two hopefully this is a nice short one for you guys um just whitelist distribution strategy
between eth and ada i heard seals are getting whitelist i just want to know what's that relative
percentage like 50 50 or a cardano gets more than 50 could you uh go over that or have you guys
talked about that yet yeah we've been talking about it nothing's concrete yet because again it's
something that no project i mean there has been projects i've crossed over but it's you know a
little bit different and we the first thing we want to do is like you know we mentioned before i
always make that reference to the two-way bridge where you know we want to bring in ethereum members over
here as well especially those that haven't tried it yet you know now that they have they know us you
know they they would like to support us we want to see how many people we could bring in here
and that's where the stage we're on right now we're reaching out to a bunch of you know the groups
especially the ones that we've been closer with and uh offering basically like hey you know how many
of your community members do you think you'd be able to bring in over how much whitelist you think is
appropriate and we're looking at those numbers ideally you know for me at least i think ideally we'd
want 50 50 percent but uh at the end of the day you know data rules essentially have to look at
the data and see you know how that demand looks and how it's going to end up or even the supply you
know how many people are coming over for me how many people are willing to do it and uh ideally
you know we're going to shoot that for that 50 50 but we don't know the concrete numbers yet uh we
are going to try shooting for something fair and you know for both sides like i said in order to truly
live up to that you know two-way bridge uh metaphor that we're trying to create yeah it's a problem
everybody wishes they could have because now you can get more quality out of your community because
you've got so many people demanding to be in it uh but i appreciate the time uh you guys are fantastic and
actually i've bought this merchandise i haven't even bought a seal i'm just just haven't gotten to
that point but i love the merchandise and my wife loves it too so thanks guys thanks so much price
pro uh cardano review and then daily hey what's up yeah i kind of came in on the tail end of the
conversation but from what i'm understanding is this is a space to essentially reach out to the cardano
community and get their take on bringing sappy seals over to cardano is that correct
the very um sort of like a nebulous uh what do you call it um
not abstraction what what the is going on in my brain um the summary but um
um but uh yeah i mean kind of bringing sappy seals ip to cardano yes okay yeah so i'll say with that
idea you know that general broad you know brushstroke you know broad brush strokes you know i think that
is a great thing for cardano because it's helping with interoperability but like they say the devil is
always in the details and making that transition and then actually executing on that is what is you
know important and hopefully that this whole process is done smoothly and and amicably um but yeah i will
hope to see some of the devs or some of the team you know some of the major spokespeople for sappy
seals maybe make some spaces and talk about yeah this is something they're trying to do and ask you
know have more um opportunities for community members to ask questions and things that that's just a
suggestion you know but um but yeah that's all i came up here to say and and good luck wish everybody
the best you know stay safe out there thank you sir uh daily and nesco you uh yeah so first just just
want to say a little suck she was just up here big shout out to both you and mango it's my first time
really tapping which i'm glad to see you know some eth vibes coming over to cardano that's something that
i think is kind of you know lacking for sure um it's kind of it's kind of hard to have fun over on
cardano i'll say that um so i'm excited uh something interesting something something you know just with
the vibes i got a lot of homies that are sappy seals so uh i'm i'm excited to see what you guys can do i
wanted to mention really quick a lot of people coming up and you know talking about wob or seals or all this
shit um i value individuals who step outside of web3 and can actually go to irl events and you know