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Hey Lincoln what's going on man?
Hey Lincoln are you able to hear me? Hey Noah. Yeah, here you go. Awesome. Well, welcome, welcome. Good afternoon. We have point talk community. Excuse me. This is our third AMA of today. We got Lincoln Murr from Vanderbilt Blockchain, also known as Band-D Blockchain.
Lincoln, before we get started talking about the club, do you want to give us a quick background of yourself, what you're currently studying, get Vanderbilt, and how you got into Web 3, what would pique your interests, and also your plans for bridging your studies with future Web 3 aspirations.
Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for having me today too as well. So yeah, my name is Lincoln. I'm a junior at Vanderbilt studying computer science and math and also pursuing an accelerated masters in computer science. I got into the blockchain space about six or so years ago just because it's sort of captivated my interest in both economics and technology.
technology. So that was right around April, early 2017. And yeah, that was a great time for the crypto market. So super fun on the way up. And then the way down, just kind of doubled down and started doing more research. Got into the space more by starting writing articles currently a contue contributor for Bit push news. Also, when I got to
Vanderbilt, I found it Vanderbilt Blockchain, which we'll get in more to later. I also gave a TEDx talk at Vanderbilt about Blockchain, talking about how Blockchain will help revolutionize universities and education. Other things I've done in this space, I'm a Blockchain Manager at Prescriptive, which is a healthcare startup based out of Seattle.
Also, head of Web 3 for Bar City, a Nashville-based startup trying to revolutionize the way that people learn about entrepreneurship and starting businesses. And yeah, also the founder and president, but I'm a broad the semester of Vanderbilt blockchain. So yeah. - Right on, where are you studying abroad?
I'm in Madrid Spain. Nice. How are you like it so far? It's been amazing. Super nice to take a break from Nashville. I love the city, but it's been great to be in Europe and just sort of experience new things, travel, and yeah, generally just get a greater outlook on life.
And you said you give a TEDx talk about how blockchain will help revolutionize university space. Give us more insight into that. I'm curious to know what you think and what you presented to the audience there.
Yeah, totally. So I've focused on a couple main topics. One of them is identity and the potential for blockchain-based identities and what that could provide in terms of preventing fraud and helping to create more efficiency within the very bureaucratic university
system. Another area is with transcripts and having verifiable transcripts on the blockchain so that if your university shuts down or there's some sort of issue, you don't have to go to that university every single time you want to prove your education experience.
Nice and what about varsity tell us a bit about that Yeah, absolutely so varsity is a platform that allows students to do gigs for startups such as you know competitor analysis Research into other companies pitch decks, whatever all the things
things that you need to start a company. Some of the time that you do all of these things for real-world companies and get paid for it, you're also learning about how to do it yourself and can go on to, you know, found your own company with more expertise in this space. So it's still early but signups are up on the website for students that are interested.
I believe it's myvarsity.org or myvarsity.com. I think there's going to throw a link at my Twitter bio, but yeah, the idea is to just make the process of students getting into startups face much easier, as well as introducing to a web through NFTs, document into progress and whatnot.
So you're really passionate about taking these archaic processes and somehow integrating them onto the blockchain and making them not just more reputable, but also make the entire process more seamless for all parties involved.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think that's one of the biggest benefits of blockchain is that ability to sort of remove the middleman and increase efficiency. You know, especially when we're talking about, you know, financial systems, there's billions of people around the world who don't have access to a bank account.
but through satellite internet, all of them can get access to the internet and eventually connect to a blockchain like Ethereum and participate in this global financial ecosystem. And for the first time in really their family history throughout their entire lives, they're able to store and build wealth.
Beautiful. Okay, so Lincoln you're the founder of and president of Vandy blockchain Tell us a bit about the origin story there when did you started? How many people? Were part of the founding and then how big?
have you guys grown over the years? Would love to hear the whole story. Yeah, absolutely. So it starts in the very beginning in 2017 when Vainable blockchain was first founded by Mason Hall, who's now a crypto A16Z crypto partner, but it quickly died off during that next
So I sort of revitalized and recharited the club in the fall of 2021. There was four of us originally and we just wanted to have a space on campus for people to talk about blockchain, share their passions and opportunities and whatnot. And the club grew really quickly from there. There was a lot of interest on campus.
learning more, both from economic students, computer science students, as well as some philosophy students as well, as I always think is very interesting. Since then, we've grown to around 200 or so members. Alongside doing general body meetings, we also have a development committee where we teach cohorts of students,
and get them involved in hackathons and whatnot. We also have a research committee where we built out the Vanderbilt blockchain index, which is a token set on set protocol where we have students learn about the fundamental analysis of cryptocurrencies and have them essentially run their own ETF.
started that last fall right now, it's up 28% or so since inception. So yeah, proud of what we've been able to do there. We also have a lot of initiatives on the content and social media side trying to ramp up production of research articles, papers, videos, stuff like that to create a full sort of online web presence.
Remind me again the development committee is focused on educating fellow students on blockchain building so solidity building gaps so on and so forth you guys also have an accredited course or no? No, that's really something I want to do before I graduate is get a course at this
So hopefully fingers crossed that will happen next year. But right now it's just students who are passionate about solidity and smart contracts and want to break into the space so they learn through our cohort course. And I'm a big fan of the research committee here. You said that the students ultimately
So right now it's pretty heavy into USDC, just trying to wait and see what the market conditions are going to hold. But some of the previous goals in that the student have really liked include Chainlink, Bitcoin,
a theory. I think we have some graph in there as well as some sushi. So it's been a wide variety of coins. I'm not sure what they're looking into right now, but I always love to see what they come up with. Really, really great insight. Yeah, I mean, they're up 28%. That's pretty nice, especially given the
Okay, so you're trying to wrap up production of research articles or what kind of content can readers expect in these articles and how far along the time line are you getting those out?
Hopefully within the next couple of weeks we're going to start releasing our content. It's not a wide variety of things. There's a lot of token reviews. I won't spoil which tokens that we're going to release papers about, but a lot about the different fundamental values of these tokens. Why something like Ethereum or Bitcoin has value?
Another one that I'm really excited about that should be coming out is an overview of these new stablecoins from Curve and Abe comparing them to some of the existing options and what the regulatory space may look like in the future as it relates to stablecoins.
Lincoln, how big is the club? How many members do you guys have? What does it take to become a member? Do you let anyone join or is there some sort of an application embedding process? Yeah, so we really want to be as inclusive as possible. So right now, with our 200 members,
Anybody is allowed and welcome to come to our general body meetings where we have speakers. Some of the speakers we had in the past include Preston Vanloon, the Prismatic Labs co-founder and Ethereum core developer, Taken Klein, Edge and Node founder which is the company behind the graph and a co-founder
of treasuredows among others and then our developer and research committees are both application based. One of the things that I'm really excited about that we've started recently is recruiting a DAO called Anchor DAO. They're about to pick Sportsbook and it's Anchor DAO and so it's a perfect pun. I love it.
But the idea there is to have a 501c3 Dow using Tennessee's new Dow regulatory guidelines. We're going to be one of the first, if not the first, nonprofit Dow in the state. And the idea there is to really expand our reach and also provide a greater incentive
system for students to get involved. So when they do join the Dow and that will be much more application based and really for the best of the best and Vanderbilt blockchain, there will have access to all sorts of networking opportunities, resources, sponsorships for conferences and whatnot. So that's our big initiative this semester.
Would you say that the interest of students has gone down at all with the market going down or is it kind of the opposite? You think that it's a pretty common or rather you think that
It's pretty self-explanatory, right? The market tanks and people's interest tanks, but I've spoken to certain blockchain clubs where they've said that they've actually grown during the bear market. So we'll love to hear what's going on at Vandy Blockchain.
Yeah, it's interesting. I think in terms of overall volume and interest, it definitely has gone down. But at the same time, those new people that we are bringing in are coming because they are really interested in blockchain and Web 3 in the pinch of behind it.
less people coming in and asking us about Dogecoin and NFT speculation, which is definitely refreshing. So it is, I would say, lower volume in terms of interest, but much higher quality people. And it really is a builder's market.
Yep, agreed. Lincoln, you said you have aspirations to start your own course or rather get an accredited university course off the ground taught by students. What other aspirations and goals you have planned for the club going into 2024 and beyond?
Yeah, so the big one being anchored now that's been a lot of paperwork to do as far as fine with the IRS to get our non-profits data, so what not, but we're hoping to have that up and running by the end of the month just in time for each Denver from there our goals with that are to
to find partners in the space that are willing to sponsor a sort of similar to how Franklin Dow, they were a big inspiration. That's Penn's Dow that they spun off from their blockchain club. So essentially getting that up and running and making it a sustainable place for
middle Tennessee to sort of have a hub of Web 3 in the South. That's my overall goals to make Vandy Blockchain and Anchored Owls sort of the Web 3 hub of the South and going about that by creating as many opportunities as possible to be the bridge between Web 3 and academia.
So the goal of ranker is it's the bridge together all the different universities and all the different students in the south. What else are you guys planning? I mean it's a nonprofit. Are you
planning on doing any sort of donations to smaller projects or planning hackathons or having your own conference would love to know more about your plans on that end.
Yeah, a conference would be amazing. Web 38L and the Georgia Tech team did a fantastic job with theirs and I would love to recreate something like that. Yeah, we do want to be sort of student focused so we want to definitely give scholarships to students to go to different conferences because I feel like that's really one of the
best ways to get your feet wet in the space is just by being around so many people who are like minded and passionate as well as have opportunities for jobs and whatnot for these students. So that's the main goal and the whole reason to do it through Anchor Downs set of Vanderbilt
blockchain is, I've been sure some of the other clubs might have mentioned going through the university bureaucracy to do all sorts of stuff like funding, you know, getting speakers and whatnot is really a nightmare. So having an actual entity through which we can sort of manage everything will be really, really helpful and just increase in our flexibility.
Beautiful. Hey, look Lincoln. I think that I've asked all the questions that I have with respect to Benny blockchain. Is there anything that I might have skipped over or that you're eager to share with us? If not, then I'm going to move on to the next part of the AMA.
I think I covered everything. I guess you can follow us @VandyBlockchain on Twitter, but other than that, yeah, let's keep going. Cool, right on. So I like to do this Q&A portion of the Twitter space, and it's a lot of fun because I think that students have this refreshing take on WebThru.
and you guys are very lucky to have access to so many people and so many tools in a time where people are building and it kind of has the industries had all the noise flushed out of it. It wasn't like this class bear market 2018 I found that
It was a lot more siloed and information didn't travel as fast in the space. It's a really cool time to be building and it's a great bear market to be in. I know it's surprising to hear me say that but I really do believe this is the best time to make a name for
yourself in the industry. So, would love to know what you think is going to happen over the next year or two with the market. Do you think that we're going to bounce back pretty quick? Just because there's more tangible infrastructure
being built, whether it's Layer 2s, whether it's CK roll ups, whether it's more matured cows or more mature NFT ecosystems. What are your thoughts on the future of the market? The near term future in the market. I'm talking 2023, 2024 max.
Yeah, so I guess the touch on your first point first I would completely agree about right now being such a great time in the space and I'm so fortunate be a student during it as well because a lot of different you know companies conferences and whatnot have been super supportive of students. They've you know sponsored travel
So I'm banking on that, but realistically given current market conditions, I think that when you're talking about the sheer size of the crypto space, it is sort of inherently tied to the rest of the market. And given the current macroeconomic conditions and the uncertainty surrounding inflation, I'd love to say that.
Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies prosper during this time. But realistically, I don't know if that will be the case. I think the big thing that the market will really depend on is regulation. I mean, when you have Gary Gensler, former MIT blockchain professor, as the head of the SEC, you know that the government is taking regulation
of cryptocurrencies very seriously. And as we saw with tornado cash, they clearly may not know what they're doing. So that being said, it may be a bumpy ride to get to regulations that are helpful. And in the short term, we may see some rules made that hurt the market.
You know 2023, 2024 may not be pretty and also if we're talking about you know following that four-year cycle of three years bull market one year or three years bear market one year bull. I'm hoping that even if 2023 isn't the year for crypto 2024 maybe late 2024 will be where we start to see things.
Thanks, Peter. I'll pick up again. Great take. Lincoln, that's on Bitcoin. Do you think Bitcoin is always going to be the OG top dog in the space? Or do you think it's eventually going to get flipped by another asset? Yeah, so I used to not think too much of Bitcoin honestly, but actually
right next to Vanderbilt and Village called Hillsboro. There's this new co-working space called Bitcoin Park. It used to be the recording studio for Florida, Georgia line. And then some OG Bitcoiners bought it and turned it into this hub of Bitcoin in the United States. They have speakers come in from all over the country.
post-monthly events and they've been great to us and it's been really interesting to hear their take on Bitcoin and sort of the idea of the Bitcoin philosophy and what it sort of led me to the conclusion of is Bitcoin really is a digital gold. It is, you know, one of the, may not be the most decentralized but it's one of the most decentralized currencies.
It's the one that if you say, "Hey, I work in blockchain," people are like, "What is that?" You say, "Have you heard of Bitcoin?" And it always works out. So for that reason alone, I think Bitcoin's status as a digital gold will always be there. That being said, if Bitcoin's a digital gold, I've used something like a theorem as a digital oil that ultimately has a lot more upside.
Love that brevity. Yeah, so that I'm going to skip over my question about ether. I think you drew perfect analogy there. Let's go to NFTs which
industries you think NFTs are gonna disrupt the most and not art not music not gaming those are kind of the obvious ones that have already happened and we're already seeing happening with gaming
Yeah, I think two of the big ones are going to be identity as well as just ownership. So on the identity front, you know, blockchain based identities could completely remove any sort of attempt at like a fraudulent identity or faking who you
are because, you know, let's say the state of Tennessee is using you a blockchain based identity, it's going to come from their e-t address, nobody's going to be able to fake that. And I think once governments catch onto the power of blockchain for that purpose and for verification, it's going to be one of the
really big use cases that we all will eventually be using even if we don't realize it on the ownership side. I think there's so much potential for things like housing deeds and other sorts of property or ownership to be blockchain based.
When you're talking about dealing with a stolen house today, you've got to go through an escrow company while you're waiting for the sale to finalize. That company could take a couple of percentage points of the entire house payment. You're talking about a couple of hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions of dollars, that's a significant amount of money.
With blockchain, you have that sort of escrow feature built into smart contracts. So you have an inherently much more efficient system that could save both the house buyer and the seller significant time and money. So I think a lot of those use cases are what we're going to see NFTs primarily used for in the future.
So do you think that we'll get to a point where eventually universities will be handing out diplomas that are represented by NFTs or your master's degree will be in part, like, let's see.
The ERC 721 token where your master's degree is also encoded into that or can be encoded into that after you receive it or ERC 1155 would love to know more about how you see how you see NFTs to
interrupting the way diplomas, certificates, credits, any sort of document of notoriety being handed out to students and scholars. Yeah, definitely. I think you really nailed it there. That's going to be one
One of the big use cases is even if we don't realize it, our transcripts and our promise and whatnot all will be blockchain based. I do research at a lab at Vanderbilt where we're working on a decentralized identity solution for patients with rare diseases. One of their big issues is that they have to go to several different positions, sometimes nine different specialists.
to get even just a diagnosis and every hospital, every office has its own sort of identity system. There's no interoperability. So when you're talking about both giving the patient the ability to own their data as well as share it in between different practitioners,
You create a much more efficient system that simply works better than any other alternative. The paper we published on that recently was accepted at conference in Japan, which I'll be presenting at May. So I'm excited to see the future of identity take form. But when we're talking about transcripts too, I don't think it'll be a thing where
you graduate and then you submit your eith address to Vanderbilt or whatever. I think it'll be very native. Just in the same way that everyone knows how to use a debit card and a credit card and nobody really knows how the payment rules work behind the scenes. We'll all be using blockchain technology and NFT-based transcripts, identities, whatnot.
Whether that be through an existing standard like 1155 or 721 or something like that or something new that's more friendly to these legacy organizations. Regardless of what that looks like, I think it's inevitable that'll happen. And when it does, it'll be so native to our smartphones and our computers that we won't even read.
realize that it's there. Right on. Future Web 3, massive adoption is when everyone's interfacing with it, that recognizing doing so. Lincoln, if I gave you $100,000 right now, how would you allocate it into what assets would you allocate it during the spare market?
I think one of the big opportunities in the bear market is just finding great yield. That being said, I've really been interested in the arbitrage ecosystem recently. Products like Jones, Dow, and their ETHVAL, which is, I guess, synthetic GLP, which just acts mirrors the price of ETHVAL, also having extreme upside.
I would probably put a lot of money into there. I would definitely keep some in stables, probably out of protocol like overnight finance where you can earn a decent interest rate. But yeah, I would want to put all of that money to work and have it, you know, be earning interest one way or another. If I had to choose specific protocols or projects, definitely have
some money in Bitcoin. I don't think that's going anywhere. ETH is a digital oil with all the narratives surrounding L2s, scaling, and even zero knowledge. Just I'm also incredibly excited about. Can't really miss out on that. I think chainlinked is definitely deserves a significant allocation as well simply because there's so many different layer 1 blog
Smart Contract platforms out there. It's probably going to be impossible to choose one as a winner. However, pretty much every single one of those chains uses chain link to essentially interact with real world data. And all of the most interesting and exciting use cases of smart contracts come with real world data. So it's a blockchain agnostic
There's also got to be an interoperability play in there, whether that be Cosmos or Polkadot. Either one seems like a good bet, but having the ability to transfer assets in between blockchain and that sovereignty and the idea of the abchains which has been so popular recently.
I think that definitely deserves an allocation. If I had to choose one more, gosh, probably Polygon just because they have what, seven different solutions coming out. When you're talking about, and their BizDepth team is incredible too. When you're talking about real world adoption and technology that matters, Polygon's been hitting the nail on the head this past year.
All great choices Lincoln. Big fan of you so far man. I think that you've been you've been a great guest and our audience members have hopefully taken away something from this AMA. I think that the future
sure of Web 3 is multi-chain and is obviously smart to be investing in ecosystems that help support interoperability. I would love to know what your aspirations are coming
out of college, right? What do you want to do when you graduate? Obviously, computer science is a great degree. Is it computer science in math? These are great degrees to go into crypto with. I feel like there's a lot that you can do. They're quite versatile, but we'd love to know what your career aspirations are.
Thank you. Yeah. So my plan right now to colleges to either stay working at varsity or stay at prescriptive where I'm doing the blockchain products management. I've been at prescriptive since the summer of my freshman year and I've really enjoyed it. Being able to work in a space like healthcare is not something I ever really anticipated doing, but now that I'm in it and
I'm at the forefront of it as far as bringing blockchain technology along to create digital prescriptions that people can truly own on their phones. I really enjoyed that. Ultimately, my main career goal is to just make something cool that people use every day, even if I don't get credit for it. For example, somebody had to come up with the idea that when you click on
a link on Google, it turns from blue to purple. And that guy gets to grow around knowing that every single day, his idea gets his billions of times by billions of people. And that I would love to do something in similar to that, even if it is small, but just have some sort of impact on the way that people go about their lives and make it much easier. That's awesome.
Hey Lincoln, do you think that there will be a future where everyone's medical information is represented by NFT and then any time a big pharma company or a big data company wants to pull from that information for their unmonetary benefit. Those individuals will get some sort of a royalty.
Yeah, I think that's definitely possible. You know, when you talk about Web 3, one of the big ideas of is, you know, ownership of your own data, Brave allows you to already monetize your attention online. I don't see any reason why people couldn't, you know, sell their medical information if they sewed shows and get paid for it. As opposed to the current model where
or maybe they didn't realize they consented to the usage of their data or don't really have a choice when they're using specific products. So I think that'll definitely be a thing. As far as what that looks like, I think that's still very much up in the air. Given how much regulations surround the healthcare space, it's almost inevitable that at least for the time being,
Before zero knowledge proofs are really brought to fruition and to a final state that all this healthcare information would have to be stored on a private or permission blockchain. But still that does give you benefits over a traditional model where you simply don't have any sort of ownership over your data.
It's been a fun space. I love how concise your answers are, but you still explain quite a bit in each one of your responses. I got all my questions in. I don't know if you have any questions for us or if you have anything that I have an ask about that you would like to share, but the floor is your
yours, man. Go for it. Yeah, thanks. Gosh, you guys saw in this spot. If I had to come up with a question, I'd say, what are you guys looking at at at a at Wellcoin talk about where you see the market going? You know, what have you taken away from some of the other blockchain clubs about the future of the space? Yeah, that's a great question.
So to answer your first part, I'd say that me personally, I'm horrible at predicting the market. And so I've learned to be patient and DCA into assets that I'm very conservative in my crypto investing DCA into assets like Bitcoin and Ethereum that I just have a
hard times seeing a future without. But as far as when the market will rebound, it's anyone's guess. I think it's fair to try to kind of line it up with the previous four-year cycles and the having and make a bet on that. But I do think that the network
the last two years and also kind of the tangible infrastructure and the tangible solutions that are being built. This bear market make it so much different than previous ones. So I think that the next time the bull market
comes. It will surprise everyone. And I think that just like this past time, it surprised people, especially those that never thought we'd see another crazy ICO cycle like we did in 2017. I think there will be at least one more surprise coming for us in the next cycle. I'm not sure what that's going to be, but I'm
I'm guessing somewhere between 2024 and 2025. And as for your second question, I am very impressed by all the students that come on. I mean, some of you guys are so smart and I am very excited to see you guys graduate.
enter the space full time and start to really build. I believe this genuinely, and I say it over and over again, that Gen Z and Gen Alpha is going to be the next big wave of great minds, of money, of interest, of adoption that flows into this industry,
really takes it to the next level. So, and the more I talk to students, the more that that prediction seems to be something that's going to come to fruition because I'll tell you I'm around crypto heads all day. I'm on my computer all day.
day and some of the students including yourselves including yourself that I speak to are just no offense to people in my circles including myself you guys just smarter than a lot of us and you guys know more about this stuff than a lot of us and I think part of the reason I said you're with influencers
structure right when I was in college there were no blockchain clubs when I was in college there is no there is no blockchain conferences and there were no college dows and ways for students to communicate with one another and kind of make these high minds and silos and now you have
those and it makes it so much easier to learn. You guys have professors teaching blockchain courses. You guys have universities allowing you to build these clubs and even have accredited university courses. So it's just rapidly growing in this tree and I think Gen Z is in the right place at the right time to really take advantage of
advantage of all that it has to offer. So that's kind of my answer, my long-winded answer to your question about my impression so far of students and universities. I'm very excited to work with the universities that we have partnered with so far. And I think it's going to be really interesting to see how you guys build out the space.
Yeah, I completely agree. I think one of the most fascinating things about it is that like Gen Z, Gen Alfred, the first ones to grow up with this idea of digital ownership made so apparent to them with that being through, you know, Fortnite skins, downloadable video games that don't come on a CD, etc. And all of this ultimately making that transition
to a web3 environment, much more native and much more natural than it would be for others who are still getting their heads around the idea of downloading content and owning their rights to different things. Yeah, and I think that in this space we're kind of discratching the surface. I know I said let's not talk about video games because I think at this point
It's kind of obvious that blockchain technology is going to shift the paradigm of how gamers interface with games and how gamers spend their time playing games and and we've seen that happening music as well with art as well But gaming is a sector of the industry with regaming that excites me the most it's been a lot of
I still love video games and the idea that players can spend time doing something they love and have this icing on the cake that is asset ownership and tokenization of things like skins like weapons items things that items that players were spent hours and hours and hours trying to accrue.
are now going to be represented by an NFT that player can go ahead and go turn around and sell to someone else if they want to and earn real monetary value out of that. I think it's paradigm shifting. Don't get me started on gaming and NFTs. I can go for hours. But yeah, Lincoln, what are your thoughts on gaming? I'm not sure if you play video games or what are your thoughts on what you're gaming?
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, big gamer. I think one of the big things that smart contracts and blockchain bring to the space is sort of this idea of set rules and define logic that can't be changed. When you talk about games like FIFA and NBA 2K, they have
There are modes where you buy cards and sell them on their market. Ultimately, those gaming companies are the ones that set the rules. You have no idea what's going on in the back end as far as what the supply is, who is minting these cards, how many are being minted, what their actual value is.
So I think having that sort of layer of trust and something that can't really be changed in a game is what provides so much value like the idea that Vitalik talked about with Soulbound tokens and what can be done with all of that. I think there's so much potential to create a much more level playing field of
You know such as there is a game I think it was called words 3.xyz via small brain game studio and it was kind of like Scrabble but all based on the chain So you had a set dictionary that would be checked with zero knowledge proofs and
You play against other people and everything was all verifiable and that's sort of Guarantee about how the game is going in the state of everything I think is where it gets really interesting or another one to being OP craft which is a Which is minecraft but every single block in the world was put on to a roll-up
And every time you mind something or play something that was a new transaction made. And even though that's just a really strange use case, probably something that'll never be done in practice, the proof of concept of it I think is fascinating, the idea of having a shared state seen across the world for something as simple as a video game.
I could not agree more with that. Sorry, I lost my train if I had a question for you, but you blew me away with some of the video game talk and I forgot what I was going to ask.
I hope it comes back. But look, man, I don't want to keep you any longer. I know you have a lot of things to do. You're a busy student. It's been a great space. I know you're working on other projects as well. You mentioned varsity, you mentioned anchor.
You mentioned a number of other ventures that you have interested or at least are involved in. You're always welcome to come back and talk about one of those individually. We made our name, Weell Kointalk on ecosystem deep dives. We love doing them. We love breaking things down.
I mean, not in Boltz Perspective. So yeah, you're welcome back anytime man, but it's been a great space and I've really enjoyed talking to you Awesome. Yeah, thank you so much for having me now. It's been a great time as well. I've enjoyed it All right Lincoln. Well, you have a good one man and well-quent talk community
remember everything that you hear on these broadcasts, it's not for educational purposes only, nothing is financial advice. It's been a great day of Twitter spaces. We had Oasis, we had Arbitrum, we had Lincoln from Bandy Blockchain and I'm wrapping up. We'll see you all tomorrow. Take care. - Good, thanks everyone.