All right, thanks everyone for coming. It looks like we are ready to go. We have a bunch of people that showed up today. So I just wanted to go ahead and kick off the discussion. And what we're going to be talking about today is something that's been in the works for a while and their lips. And it's basically a lens improvement for
proposal. And if you've ever been, and this ecosystem of Web 3 for a while, you've probably seen similar things happening on other protocols. So for instance, Ethereum has something similar to that. And what this really essentially is going to enable is us to have some type of
system for governance and moving forward, different updates for lens going forward, whereas in the past, you know, everything was essentially managed by our team. We'd like to now get a lot more community involvement, a lot more of the developers building on lens, just a lot more feedback and a lot more
So we can have a lot more voices that are really pushing forward all the things that are happening. So that's what we're going to be talking about today. If you look at the lens, probably call handle, I'm actually going to go ahead and pin the lens.
Let's see if I can pin this tweet to the top here. There we go. So if you look at the Twitter spaces here, I've linked to the tweet where we announce the new process. Also, there we have a link to the blog post that goes into this as well as the GitHub repo.
So that being said, we're that's what we're going to be talking about here today. We have a bunch of really great guests to talk about this as well. So we have people from lens, but we also have some people from like outside of lens, essentially building on lens. So I guess to kick things off, I will start with
Josh because Josh has been one of the people leading this so he probably has a lot more in better context. So Josh, do you want to introduce yourself and give maybe your intro to what lips are? Yes, sure. So, um, hi, I'm Josh. I work here at Lens. Um, so,
So, lips are a way for us to work together and bring standards to the protocol. I think I've talked about this a lot before, like everything's based on interfaces in life, and being able to agree on a solid interface is some of the things what have driven the biggest adoption through any
We think, including Ethereum with tokens, with NFTs, and all that is an agreement of interfaces so everyone can integrate with it, right? And the Lips, the lens improvement plans is here to allow us to work together to make sure we build those standards.
Now we have already deployed an Open Algo standard which allows ability for service providers and anyone to put up Algos that follow the interface. We've also got the metadata standards which is an OpenPR at the moment. If you go to the GitHub you'll see it and that talks about the new
metadata standards on how we can make them better for the protocol. And we've also got one which is the Lenshare and again a standard so we can be so you can share links in a standard way. So if someone hasn't got all but or butterfly I think people are probably seeing that before where you kind of share a link.
it allows you to do that basically. So yeah, I mean, Stanley can probably give a better overview of this, but from a developer point of view, it really allows us to come together and discuss standards and make lens the best protocol that we can together, basically.
Awesome. Yes, so standing do you want to hop in and give your like thoughts on this and introduce yourself not that I mean most people probably already know you are but either way
Thank you so much, Annator, for the introduction and kicking off. And I mean, we've been building lens protocol for -- we've been building roughly for almost two years. And it's quite incredible to see the lens protocol being on the main nets.
over a year now, so the first anniversary has been passed. So, congratulations for everyone who was an early user and also building, experimenting and building interesting use cases and applications and algorithms or
some way involved in the community. I think it's been a big milestone. And part of this development process and also our kind of like a choice since the beginning has been that we want to build publicly as much as possible. And one of the reasons we're
that is we're building an open and decentralized protocol, which basically means that the Alliance protocol is something that is known as being a public yet. So we're building this for the future users of the internet, you know, and we do believe that
Today, internet is quite widely owned by the companies. So when you are looking and interacting with many of these platforms online, there are quite big tech companies. And we want to ensure that the future of not just social networking, but the way we are
interacting should be more equitable and also democratic. And that's where these enthroughest organizations come into place, but also user ownership and the users being able to decide how these protocols will be built and how they're
will evolve in the future. Now, being able to actually contribute early on, there's multiple ways. One fascinating way has been that we see quite a lot of public discussion across all the clients and applications of the
the user are actually talking about openly about different features and how things could evolve in the future. The protocol itself is publicly available on GitHub and we've seen developers coming and creating different kinds of pull requests to improve the development
protocol with different modules or other parts of the ecosystem. And also the data is available for computation. There's the public BigQuery data set. So if you are a data engineer or excited about machine learning, you can actually start building open algorithms. So the main idea with
And the reason why we need lips is that we want to make it even more available for the community to participate in how the protocol will be actually evolving the future. What kind of features should be put it, but down the line, we also want to ensure that the protocols
stays as neutral and as open and as flexible as possible. And to achieve that, we need pretty much everyone's voice and opinions to be heard so that we have different kinds of metadata standards that we have to implement so that they're applicable
and we have a compatibility between different applications. And while we do know that compatibility is important, and we also know that a lot of these applications use interfaces, they're going to have their own type of communities and algorithms down the line.
But also we recognize that we're all building together in a shared network and that's what gives the bigger benefit for that. So the reason here is that we get more of the community involvement and ensure that we're building exactly what community wants to see.
and have that wide discussion and also participation. So it's more of an open governance at this point, but down the line we want to expand even further. Maybe we'll be good for Josh if you go a bit more down the different Genesis lips
that we already proposed and what's the point of you already touched based on some of them but going even more deeper on the metadata, a lip that we also proposed in the Genesis lips. Yeah sure. Yeah so if you go to the GitHub you'll see that
there's already two lips that have been merged. The one he's just talking about how this helps us and the first one is about open algos and standards. So within the space, I think we know that like AI and machine learning and algorithms are
growing at a very heavy speed and with that for socials to kind of work you do need some machine learning to really really give that experience for the user. Now with that of course comes like if you're just going to build loads of out goes really all you get like really all you
care about is the output and the input. So the ability for these algorithms to be used on every single app, they could use Rust, they could use JavaScript, they could use any programming language that they want as long as the output is what you expect for the consumers. So we have a full fledged document
about how you can become a provider of one of the algorithms. We have two algorithms that are already there, which is Profile Score, ability to kind of say, hey, this profile recommended to you like who to follow, right? And then one is to
been proposed today, which is a feed, a recommendation of publications. Having this standard allows anyone to be able to build these algorithms and anyone to be able to consume them because as long as they bring the same output, it's the same way to consume it. So we really, really
want to see people and service providers and also other ideas like going into that so we can really grow the machine learning part of lens. And as Stoney mentioned before, like we all our data set is on public BigQuery. So anyone can pull all the data set really, really easily from a machine learning
or an AI developer. Obviously that's great because you don't have to worry about getting all of that data. Some of the hardest things about blockchain is actually getting that data and putting it in a relational manager allows you to query it quick. So basically we really, really want to see people
doing stuff with the lens big dataset and we would love to see providers going in here and kind of making it better. So that is the open hour go really really check that out if you're interested in that. Lip number two is about metadata standards. So if you've used if you developed against the
protocol at the moment. The metadata itself is very flat and what I mean by that is it's like it doesn't describe what each thing is. It's like, "Oh, okay, I've attached a video and an image." That's fantastic for now, but these metadata standards, for example, music or
video people or x1z they all have their own fields and their own standards that they need to follow. Now with this proposal we're splitting the metadata out into different sections and what that actually means is that that section itself for example audio can grow by itself without effect
video, text, live stream events, all these other things that we want to do. So we can shape the standard quite nicely and also allow people to just care about the thing that they care about. Again, that's all posted up there and there's some really, really good feedback that that have been given
And if we look at the metadata standards on that one, we have really, really some incredible ones. So we have like 3D, article, audio, checking in, embed, event, image, link, live stream, story, text, Sony, transaction, mint video. All of these
are going to really, really make the protocol a lot better to see. Like when you go on Facebook and Twitter, all they are are different tweets and they might have some characteristics about it. Like for example, we're on a spaces right now, right? We're all joining the spaces. But under the hood, it's just an interface that has agreement. So we're super, super excited.
about what we can unlock with the metadata standards and this will also allow anyone to be able to propose one and not have to affect the other standards. So kind of someone can come in and say hey I want a metadata standard on science, I just made that up and then we could do that and it could get put into the standards a lot
easily without at the moment how it's all structured. So that's number two and the third one is Lenshare which Cesare has been leading one of our developers at Lens. So I don't know if like when you share links on for example Orb or Butterfly or Lensdaw it shares
the actual link of the URL. So, you know, if you send it to someone who is on Butterfly and they click the link and it's an all-blink, it's not going to let it open. So, sharing links becomes really, really difficult. This proposal is to build a standard with how you would share links. So, you would share it, you would click it, you'd have a little
interface and you'd be able to open up the app that you have downloaded. Just like if you were going to click a link on Telegram and it kind of says do you want to open on Safari or Google Chrome, etc., etc. Again, shaping the standards. So there are the kind of main three that we have at the moment. And again, we're super excited for more proposals to come in and
people to comment on these PRs. Everything is fully open. All the code is obviously open and obviously all the discussion points are open. So again, we would love to see people helping us shape these standards together. It's interesting to actually see that in that
We actually have the perspective of choice and portability and conversability. So we truly believe that all the builders out there, they should be able to build whatever they're trying to achieve and lens procost should be able to empower
our their vision and creativity and maybe also reduce a lot of that. Call start problem problem, but we also noticed that we're kind of like a one big community as well. And giving users the choice of selecting what is their default application when you
opening a link is very valuable and that gives that choice. And what it comes to the one about the open standard for algorithms, we get constantly questions and requests of, you know, if you're building some interesting machine learning algorithms,
how you can actually get that in a right form into the lens ecosystem and plug in and also make it available for everyone. So that was also down to the idea of choice. So the more we have standards and the
The more easier it's going to be to build some of the technology on top of the lens protocol and give that choice reflected all the way down to the user. So that means not just only choosing and necessarily like what is the client or experience.
you want to subscribe to or the community want to belong to but also for example what algorithms you want to consume and what you might find helpful. So it boils down to that portability and choice aspect that we want to reflect.
And I really like that it's on GitHub and tell someone builds the GitHub of Lens. It's on GitHub. And with that, it's very public. Like you can see everything that's going on. And you can actually go there right now. If you again look at the link that we pin there and that's wheat.
You can kind of see that we already have some pull requests and discussions and you can go in there and you can participate. You can comment and it's just very wide open for everyone to kind of see what's going on and I love the aspect of that. And just to mention, there's one question about
how the voting happens. And at this point, it's basically an open governance. And what it means is that really a lot of these proposals might be a bit more technical in the nature and the discussions will be in the
the GitHub repository. So based on some sort of consensus of what actually makes sense, then the actual implementation part might happen. So if there is a lot of support for a particular proposal, then it can be implemented.
and made available across the ecosystem, we're implemented into the protocol and just to give some context. So it kind of follows a bit the model of the Ethereum improvement proposals and also the AIP, so the other improvement proposals.
So we've found that those models have been working quite well and the lips follow the same kind of like a pad, but nothing stops to evolve from this model to something more improved or something that fits more the community needs.
Yeah, and I just finally just want want want want want to add there that these open standards are not related to the API. These are standards based on lens protocol itself, and it will allow anyone to integrate these services into their own
API or a third party to build their own API or a client to consume it directly. Of course we want to extend the API to support all of these things but I just wanted to make sure that we're clear on the separation of concern between the API and the protocol and the improved
and plans. And on the API aspect, so we would love that the Lens API would have all the base features, requirements needed to boost up very quick, fast social media experience and have even the very basic
machine learning functionality for whatever you are building up from content documentation, but also following recommendation and the very base features. But what we want to see down the line is that
A lot of these applications and clients, they will create even more advanced algorithms or more specified on their own user audience and their vision as well. So that's where we're coming from the API perspective.
And then we already touched on this a bit, but let's talk about maybe what this means for developers and how this might benefit developers. And I think that you mentioned kind of like the share functionality that that was being discussed that we really didn't have kind of like a concrete way to enable this across applications. So we even have
have like with the lens widgets away to share the lens, but what we would really like to have is a way to share to every lens client or every supported lens client. And when you kind of start actually looking in how this works, it's becoming a little bit complicated because mobile apps have a different scheme than
and just a web application and then you have to figure out like everyone needs to follow along with the same ones and who's the one that decides that. And this is kind of like a perfect use case. So beyond that, like how do you think that this is going to maybe help developers' lives make their lives easier?
Yeah, so I mean, I think it's quite incredible if you look at the metadata standards that you imagine on Twitter if you could just propose something that you would always want, right? So this is amazing for developers because they can openly propose standards that they want to see.
From a developer point of view, we've always gone through the modular standards. We've got collect modules, we've got follow modules, we've got these modules that have code that can do what you want. This goes alongside that now, every suggestion has to be heard. From a developer's point of view,
of there's something that isn't working on lens, let's propose it here. So it's kind of like, you know, that kind of side is huge. In terms of the kind of machine learning side, it's going to allow you to be able to, even if you don't want to participate, click on here and see some of the algorithms that are free to use that you can just integrate straight away. All of a sudden,
your integrating due to follow all of a sudden your client is integrating profile recommendations and publication recommendations and now your application is so much better so from the developer I think there's two points there's you know like being able to be part of building the next generation social but there's also the part of being able
to just inherit all of these incredible things. And then as Stanley said, make your app independent and individual features. But you know, from boost wrapping point of view, there's a lot of stuff that you can just get by just looking at this kind of stuff. So very exciting for a developer who is onboarding with Lenton wanting to know what to build. So yeah.
So I think we need to now move on to the next portion of like this discussion because we have some really great guests here and these are guests that are building on lens that are doing a lot of cool stuff. So I want to kind of introduce, introduce them to kind of go ahead and maybe
give an introduction to themselves, but also maybe talk about some of the stuff that they're building on lens and how this might affect them. So I guess I'll start with Marcus Marcus. Would you like to introduce yourself? GMGM everyone. Thanks, Nate, or great to be here with everyone. Yeah, so just by a quick way of
So I'm a researcher, creator and builder. Really focused on how we take crypto to the real world, right? So we built an incredible ecosystem here. And the question is, how do we continue to sort of scale what we're building continues to drive real world utility, particularly for those who need crypto most.
a theory foundation with an ex billion team where we're focused on exploring kind of the economic and social freedoms that can be brought forth from permissionless protocols that are decentralized and quiteably neutral. You know, one of the I published a whole 50 page report which you'll find on my profile, but I think one of the big findings and why I'm
super bullish on lens and very active on their at market stop lens. So, you know, the key thing that I think is really important is, as of, you know, sort of earlier on this year, we've gotten nearly 5 billion people that use social media around the world, right? And so, when we think about mass adoption, I 100% know that
that social media will be the driver of getting more people to use permissionless decentralized protocols. We already know and are all intimately familiar with kind of the extractive relationship that we have with our current social media platform. So just super bullish on how can we continue to grow and expand decentralized social media platforms?
Awesome, and I know that you might have to jump off, but I wanted to just ask one question because you've been involved with the Ethereum foundation and the EIP process there. Can you kind of talk about how valuable that is and how much innovations come through that? Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, you know, I'd say just
Just a comment on lips. By the way, love the love the name, but I think one of the key things that that we can take and some of the learnings that we've seen from AIPs and EIPs as well, right? If we look back and look at some of the kind of foundational infrastructure that makes up a lot of what Ethereum is today, having a space and open space for government
and proposals where anyone can come in and ensure that changes in networks whether it's Ethereum or Lens or other protocols are sourced from the community go to a rigorous vetting process and ultimately go up to a decision making governance process I think is crucial right so if we look at some of the really exciting innovations that
in the Ethereum ecosystem today, ERC20 tokens were born out of EIP20, right, and created this universal token standard ERC721s, right, came out of the EIP721 process, right, which was kind of the whole birth of NFTs, right. So we can already see that having this open space for collaboration and
engagement gives the community a sense of ownership and not only that ensures that we're creating a decentralized network. I think that's a huge learning that we can take from the EIPs and other protocol improvement proposals as well. But I think at the developer level also gives folks a chance to really dive deep into, okay, where
the nitty gritty details here, what are the some of the changes that we need to improve at the protocol layer as well, and then create this sort of streamlined manner under which we can move through the governance process too. So having this space and get help to be able to comment on the upcoming lifts and so on and create a really robust network, I think is super
crucial. And I mean, just to touch as well on kind of the creator side, which is obviously one that I'm very involved in and focus on as a creator myself, it's, you know, I think as like creators, one of the really exciting things about lens protocol and a lot of the web three social platforms that are emerging is we have the opportunity to really change the dynamics to which we engage with these
social media platforms. And so having the opportunity to imagine going to meta or Twitter and saying, "Hey, I'm a creator and I add a lot of value to your platform and I'd love to change this feature," right? Like, we just don't have that today. And so having, let's give us that opportunity as creators. I think we'll be really important. You know, it'll allow us to think about and change
What does monetization look like? How do we port our community across the various lens ecosystems as well? How do we engage with new audiences? Right? So I just think from a creator standpoint too, I say that's hugely important as well and just super bullish next time to see what continues to emerge out of the ecosystem.
Yes, that's awesome. I love your energy and I really appreciate your background and the experience that you kind of bring to the table here. So thank you so much for coming on and I know you're a busy person. But you hit the nail in the head, I think, with the five billion people that already are using social apps. This is just the perfect kind of like overlap.
of use case combining a lot of the things that people already know and love with social and just adding things that are just not possible with traditional infrastructure. And if you look at the number of people actually using apps today in the real world like the web 2 world versus the blockchain world, we could hit 10x or even a
100x usage on a lot of the applications that we use today and Web 3 and we're still nowhere near kind of the skill that we need to be. So this is a good way for us to get to that 10 or 100x and then kind of we can figure it out from there. So again, thank you so much for your time. I'm going to now jump to
to Sehill. And I hope I pronounced your name correctly, but you're working on one of my favorite projects in the Lindsey ecosystem. So I'd love for you to introduce yourself and kind of talk a little bit about that. Thanks so much, Nara. And you were spot on. Thanks. We're very excited. And he guys
I'm Sahil working at Karma 3 Labs where what we're essentially doing is building an open ranking and recommendation there for decentralized social and in general peer-to-peer systems. And I think we've been super excited and I think on
So Josh and the entire team on pushing through with lips, it takes a lot of effort to open up governance to open up the system when you're building a very complex system like a entire social media stack. So we've been very excited and eager to kind of participate with this. And I think
Maybe a little bit of background is we are building algorithms which can power people, content, discovery, recommendation for social media networks. And I think that's something which plays in very well when we think about at the end of the day,
If you want to get a couple of billion of users on social media, you want to make sure that they're having a good time. They're not dealing with spam. They're seeing the content they would like to see. They're connecting with people that they'd like to. And how do you use a variety of these algorithms when
content is on this open social graph layer right and right now what does that mean? Lens has already opened up a BigQuery and we've been using it right from the early days. So those are some of the things that we're solving right now. And I think this is a powerful moment in time because
social media has become like this modern town square right and where ideas are debated, creators can go and talk to their audiences directly but obviously we've seen that the policy of these kind of town squares are controlled by corporations and now with you know protocols like
We completely changed that order where people have a say and I think lips is a great example where anyone can come and propose a feature a metadata and algorithm that they wish for the community to adopt or to even mood or to
talk about and I think none of these things exist today and I think that's the super cool part of building out social in the open which I know is very difficult but I think you guys are doing a great job and yeah I think we're doing our best at 24 hours ago we are excited that we published the first full request
under the open algorithm standard, which means we've made five algorithms available to developers building apps and lens protocol and all of those algorithms, their weights, their open source, we're providing the compute, we have all the API which developers can call.
If you're in the lens ecosystem, you want to create an app. You can just either use BigQuery, Lens API, RAPI, and you can get started in no time. And I think that's what we want to enable that. When any developer wants to build has an idea for a social media app, they
launched their community ASAP and they don't have to worry about bots or spam because we'll do all the heavy lifting for them. So yeah, so super excited and obviously we can tell share more with the lens community we'll be dropping some of our you know APIs related to content discovery in Lenswrap Garden
on Telegram later today. So yeah, that's a little bit about us. Thanks for, thanks for obviously working together with us over the past few months. We've been heads down solving a complex problem around algorithms, but we're excited that we can enable this for the developers in lens.
So cool, so cool. I just added a tweet here at the top if you'd like to learn more about comma three that tweet there will link to the lens algorithms available on karma three as well as a YouTube demo and you can start building
What's out of the league already right? Absolutely absolutely and I think we're working with we're super excited I think chemo might be here or we've spoken with many of the clients already building on lens you know or
and we're excited that we can help support and even solve the day one problems. The day one problems are how do my users spend more time and see relevant content and I think we care a lot of
about that problem. And that's why I think we're excited to work if anyone would like, you know, direct access or two APIs you want to change the models. And I think one more thing, how we see the future is a developer, if you have an idea for a certain algorithm,
machine learning compute, you don't have to spin up the entire infry yourself. You can use our APIs and play around with the weights, propose your own algo, and we'll do the rest. So I think that's also the future we want to enable. But today's day one, and we want to do all the heavy lifting for most of the clients.
Awesome, awesome work. Thank you for your time today and for coming on. I want to now jump to Kipto/Kimmo. I don't know what you go by, but I'd love for you to introduce yourself and kind of give an overview of some of the things that you've been working on in the Lindsey Co. system with Orb and your vision behind the world.
So I'm Kimo, Kitto, yeah, like I'm a co-founder at ORB and yeah, like we're building a mobile app interface on top of the lens ecosystem and we are super excited about the lips. Like I would say like most of the apps that are building on lens are super small so
So I think what the lips allow, what we see with the Karma 3 is to be able to solve small problems rather than building their own front end and deploying that. But rather than what we call collaborate with Karma,
like we implemented their like a algals on the search so like everything there is like kind of powered by them with the off-labor but yeah like we are like super excited about this and like we see this like totally like the way how to kind of like bring
Like the community closer like it's not gonna be it's like just one app taking over all this gonna be like all of us together So yeah, we are super excited Yeah, one of the things that love most about or beyond just like the UX is that you have the communities feature so I'm automatically like playing
So when I showed up to eat Denver, there was like a feed dedicated to eat Denver and we had a lot of curated content that was there. How do you feel that the lips will affect or maybe hopefully enhance that experience or similar experiences? Yeah, for sure.
Right at the moment actually like we are building the community feature and also like the lists that we have like the bookmarks like we are building them to be more composable so that like any other I could like just leverage on the start leveraging with use data and start using using our like products like
And like here we see that like lips like we will probably make a lips like proposals for both of these really soon, but like these are kind of like like some some like issues that like we have to solve as a community, but like what kind of like the way we
kind of think of the world as like rather than having like this like small ideas and like dreaming like it's much better to just like build them on the open receive they kind of like stick and what's good about that and it's like iterate by building and I think now they have kind of like matured
So like if you compare this whole process to how it might look to try to build on top of the
of maybe like a third party API and Web 2 or try to build a business maybe on top of a Web 2 API that you don't really have much control over but also like you don't know if it's going to even exist you know the next day or whatever if there might be
He's putting some type of paywall in front of it. I'm really curious about this whole process and experience, how it might, in your opinion, differ from building in the traditional web to world. I know that's a very broad question. Yeah, it's a broad, but it's all like...
Like what like the comment is currently are they are just like something that we can like look at From the chain like that might be like a token balance or like NFT balance or Action like let's say you have done like a
You have deposited some like a ease to have it that might be a community and essentially like the way it's just like a way how to kind of like find the like-minded people and then like a later on like
We want to build some admin functionalities to this communities and make the joining to this communities optional. But once we have these communities, then you can start building smaller things. What's the benefit of being in a community?
like a creator, like you like I don't know like you like you write like a you publish audio maybe you want to reach back to those people who are collecting your posts and other people might like build some like perks around this like a community aspect that we could like
Hey, I think you got me there. Sorry about that.
I don't know where I was. But essentially, what we want to do is, like, anybody should be able to build on top of the community.
like introduce new features on top of it, like let's say games, let's say some like perks, whatever, like that's like it's really like like limitless like
possibilities there and like once like this can be open source so like anybody can build something on top of this and we're gonna like iterate a lot like now the next day is on top of it so like expectors see like cool things there
Awesome, and I'm now going to go ahead and link here at the top to the orb Twitter account. So I think this is y'all do a really great job of
So, you can see if you look at their feet, they're shipping it like a tremendous pace. And it's all like really great stuff. So, or definitely one of my favorite apps. And I'm sure if you're a lens user,
and you've moved away from just desktop, you probably used it, but if you haven't, definitely download it, it's really great. Thanks for your time today. We're going to now jump to Kyron and then we're going to wrap it up. So Kyron, can you please introduce yourself?
I'm pretty much an Aaron Knight with the Web Brie. I'm a guy who just jumps between projects and finds ways to help.
So I've worked with rabbit hole, I've worked with C club with a bunch of different dows like more than I can count at this point. If you can think of a doubt, pretty much been on their discord at least said hello at some point.
And yeah, like, that gives you like a kind of a bird's eye view of the ecosystem and how it's growing, how it's evolving.
Yeah, I'm pretty happy to be here like once is one of my favorite and most exciting projects in the ecosystem
Yeah, I mean, so you're basically you've been a writer and a doubt researcher. So I'm really curious about like what your perspective is for how lips might affect the future of lens and why it may be valuable.
Maybe your perspective from like a creator or from the creative side of like the actual users of lens Absolutely Like yeah, the main thing is to most people lenses a black box. You just see people
talking about it and talking about its potential and you don't really see the results at least not for now, you know that it's going to change the world but how is that going to happen? How do we get there? I feel lips have the potential to make that a lot more tender because
Yeah, like there's a little concept I'm working on that it's called finding cryptos capture moment. And with that, what I mean is finding a tangible small action that helps with sense making like understanding the data, understanding the actions and the impact that crypto is having.
And I feel lips and lense in general may be the way to do that. Like people care about people. They, like, of course, we care about the attack and its potential, but in the end, we care about the people that are back.
I feel when you're best friend post an improvement proposal or someone you look up to.
the whole technology suite and how lens is impacting lives will become a lot more tangible. And from the creator side, like that one is the closest to home for me, like something
I think I talk about with a lot of creators in the Z-Costom system. It's like, hey, should I post on Medium, or should I post on Self-Sack, or should I post on Mirror, or Paragraph, or name whichever platform you can think of?
What I see the potential happening here, like with the open algorithms initiative, with the composable metadata. Like in my case, I post some error because it is the most composable platform in this moment.
That could very quickly not be the case in the near term like once lens develops these kinds of improvements, I will have my answer. I will know in which direction to point people because lens would be the most composable and it would be the one who has an algorithm that isn't based on exploiting
So yeah, I love to talk about that more in-depth, but I also don't want to take too much of people's time here because I could want to about face.
So how can people connect with you on lens?
Well, pretty much the usual. I'm on Lensdredd exactly the same as my Twitter. And yeah, I'll start posting on T2 soon. It took me a little while to plan what kind of topics I wanted to address there, but yeah, you'll start seeing a lot more of the Lensy ecosystem.
Awesome, awesome. Well, thank you for your time again and also for coming on with us today. So I think we're going to start wrapping things up. So for closing thoughts, I want to see if Stanny or Josh want to jump in and kind of talk about like any future plans or just their final thoughts based on what we've heard from some of the guest speakers.
I was going to see if Stanley was going to mute, but no, from my side, it's incredible to see how many people want to be here and want to understand and want to participate. Definitely, definitely, I think,
this benefit's created alongside developers and you know being able to reach out and request features and think about features and brainstorm and I do think this brings you closer to the protocol and you know as everyone says we've got you know five five billion people are on social and I'm we're not on really
there for the tech, we're on there to communicate and showcase and be the best that we can for each other, right? And I really do think with lens being open, transparent, all of these things can really empower that. And yeah, I'm just super excited to see
what ideas people have will always be reactive on the GitHub will always push innovation and honestly no thought is stupid. I know it can be quite intimidating to
post something like here because you know you're like oh wow everyone's gonna see it but honestly please like if any thoughts you've got we'll always welcome you and everyone on there and nothing is stupid so I'm really excited to see what people are gonna propose and this is our step forward to the future of social
Yeah, that's a great point that I think it's an open avenue and a place to actually propose anything that you have in mind. So, and also things that might come to your mind, you know, if there's a proposal,
doesn't just remove right away and get support or implementation that doesn't really mean it's end of the world and we've seen Ethereum improvement proposals that might take even a couple of years to be built and
and also the brainstorming period, so it might take some time. So the last protocol itself, it's a public good, so it's important that whatever gets implemented and gets to that discussion process, it really is beneficial.
So it might take a bit longer time and that's part of the governance and the idea there is that we then are able to build something extremely valuable for the users and there's enough time for everyone to actually respond.
Some of the proposals might get faster implemented and some might take more time because you know there might be more big and done others. But besides of that we're super happy that the framework is out there so there's open
way to contribute and talk about them. And I still want to mention that if you talk about or create lip-supposals that don't forget to share them also across the lens protocol and you can also create additional discussions in the protocol itself by talking and commenting and sharing
So that's the way to get also awareness of these proposals. And also, once you thank everyone who came here today and supports the initiative as well, and we're super excited where things are going towards. So thank you so much.
Oh, and one last thing I hope we can do the next Twitter spaces on lens protocol because I find this correctly there's some interesting initiatives now coming from multiple clients to support more sound as well. So super excited that that to progress as well.
Yeah, so that's definitely that's coming at scenes. Yeah, there's a couple of apps that are going to be supporting that. I think it's a super exciting time to be a developer on the lens ecosystem with a lot of the updates that have been shipped and a lot of the stuff that's coming soon along with just the polish that we're seeing and
a lot of the apps and the momentum I think that a lot of the teams that are building on lens are having and if you are a developer on lens and you have like any questions we do have a discord and if you're building an Apple lens and you want to kind of have even a more curated
experience like for connecting with engineers to help you out. We have a telegram channel that we can invite you to so you can reach out to me and I can chat with you about getting you connected there. So yeah if you have any other questions or comments that definitely happened to our discord we can hopefully help you out there.
And thanks for everyone for coming through here today. We'll hopefully be having more of these spaces in the future. And like Stannie mentioned, you might be seeing them starting to pop up on Lens Apps as well. So that's it. We'll wrap it up. So we'll cue some play music and we'll see you again soon.