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Litecoin - make your case
Recorded: Jan. 15, 2026 Duration: 2:16:13Space Recording
Short Summary
In a recent discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the evolving landscape of Litecoin, highlighting trends in community engagement, the impact of institutional interest, and the potential for growth through strategic partnerships and upcoming token launches.
Full Transcription
Thank you. I'm a little bit more than a day. When your face had turned to grey, you were standing right before me.
But I miss you every day, though you never said you're sorry.
I forgive you even then, but I feel inconsequential in the current state I need.
But I'm trying to keep on living.
Cause it feels not yet in blue. And I'm trying to feel the nauseating blue.
And I'm trying to keep on digging.
Richie passed out with him too.
You never said you were sorry.
I forgive you either.
But I feel the consequence you are.
In the best that I am. I'll give it a couple more minutes to fill in. Music All right, that's just turned into a jam session.
I probably played that already before.
That was Billy.
Billy Strings.
Turmoil and Tinfoil.
I don't know. I like bluegrass, but that's like going beyond
bluegrass. So I don't know. I'm going to tell you, I don't know if anybody's going to show up
today. So you might just be listening to this in a recording by yourself. Um, it might just be a
short one. I don't know what's been going on with X. It's funny because I've been, you know,
I kind of gone away from talking about Litecoin at all and getting more engaged in,
I guess, general discussions. And what's been surprising is like the comments I make
get a ton of response, a ton of views. It obviously doesn't bring on a whole ton of followers, but
I really thought this would drive some engagement. but anytime I post just naturally, I'm getting just nothing out of it.
That's been that way for quite a while.
Who knows? I want to bring back some Litecoin content.
I'm hoping some people will come in and talk about Litecoin.
I've been kind of checked out. We had the vacation.
I was off a couple weeks for the break and had a couple sicknesses and stuff.
So, yeah, I'm hoping people will come in and spice this up.
But I don't know, man.
Engagement's just been so bad lately.
I don't know what to say about it.
So I guess what I'll do is, you know, let me think.
Let me think.
I will, I can either, I I mean there's nobody in here to give
me feedback I can either wait for some people to come in uh which is probably kind of boring
and I might just give that a little bit of time or um I'll just rant for a while I guess I could
rant for a while and I guess if you're okay here while. And I guess if you're, okay, here's the deal.
If you're here because you've never heard of, or you're just kind of curious about Litecoin,
why don't I just do that? I'll just talk to you. So, um, I've been a Litecoiner for, gosh,
quite a while, maybe going on eight or nine years. It's to believe so you got to go through waves you'll get
all into it and then you'll be kind of you know checked out for a while get burnout that's where
I'm in that state of burnout where I haven't been paying much attention to it but yeah I mean as far
as I know I mean everything's been going along this path that people would say any day you're going to see that price
appreciation. There's just a lot of games that go on with the fact that there's a lot of
manipulation in the crypto world. And probably something that you learn over time is that
when you get opportunities to make some money, it's not a bad idea to take some profit. And then when things
are not looking good, that's when you should be looking at investing in something. And so,
you know, Litecoin, I would say, has been floating around this, I don't know,
$50 to $150 range for the last, God, I don't even know, outside of a few weeks, probably the last six
years or so. So yeah, you're getting closer to that lower range of it. You know, I know our
chief comes in here from time to time. He always talks about, hey, I buy it and if it doubles,
I sell it. And you know, that's not a bad strategy. But I think the long term game with Litecoin is to really be side by side with Bitcoin.
I mean, it shares so many of the same qualities. It's got the fixed supply.
So that means there's only going to be ever 84 million Litecoin, just like there's only going to be 21 million Bitcoin.
So if you have the concept of scarcity, like if you think about $21 million, right, that would contain 84 million quarters.
You know, that's how much 84 million quarters would equal $21 million.
So it's just a four to one ratio.
And so the scarcity concept is that there's, you know, should one Litecoin be worth a quarter of a Bitcoin?
That's the philosophy some people buy into.
Today it's worth, like, it's the lowest it's ever been against Bitcoin.
So it's got the same scarcity, but it hasn't appreciated in price in the same way.
So scarcity has some metric of it.
Obviously there has to be people buying it in order to drive the price up as well.
So it's like you have to have the demand piece.
Excuse me.
So that's one element.
You got scarcity.
It's the same proof of work system that Bitcoin uses.
The big difference being it uses a completely different algorithm.
Oh, hey, what's up?
Glad somebody came in.
I'm just ranting about Litecoin.
I'm thinking if somebody finds this space, I'm just going to give them a brief education.
But if you want to come talk about it, that's kind of what I was hoping for.
I'm just filling time until someone shows up.
I don't know what to call your name.
6XGod?
6GodX?
So, proof of work.
It operates in the same fashion.
The biggest difference, I guess the way I would put it, is that it's a different algorithm.
What that means, though, in the real world is that you have to use a different piece of equipment in order to mine Litecoin.
So you can't mine Litecoin with Bitcoin machines and you can't
mine Bitcoin with Litecoin machines. So they kind of operate independently. And I think another key
thing to know about these machines are called ASICs is that there's really nothing these machines
are good for besides mining coins. So there's no like, once people make that capital investment to buy the equipment, it's a dedicated investment in the Litecoin network.
Or, now there's the other piece of it, that Litecoin merge mines with Dogecoin, Bellscoin, all these other ones.
Where, when you mine Litecoin you get the reward
of the other coins as well so it's still I think to this day I could look it up
how profitable it is to mine Litecoin obviously when you see these
profitability calculators if you're interested in mining a lot of it has to
do with what your electricity costs are how expensive the piece of equipment was that you bought,
all this stuff.
So I would just say in general,
be cautious if you're going to think about mining.
I mean, now would be the time to buy them.
Machines, I'm sure, are super cheap.
I should check them out, actually.
The most profitable machines.
Oh, a Monero.
Oh, they got a Monero.
Is it an ASIC?
Oh, no.
It's coming up here in July.
Supposedly.
But Monero keeps resisting these ASICs.
After that, Zcash.
Then Bitcoin.
Yeah, Litecoin and Doge.
It's about $12 a day to buy a, you got to buy a $10,000 piece of equipment though.
So keep that in mind.
How many days have to pass?
You know, you got to pass a thousand days basically.
So three years to get your money back.
Maybe a little less than that.
But obviously if the price goes up up that's what you're investing in
you're saying i'd rather my your mind you're basically buying at a discount that's the best
way to look at it it's like committed to buying litecoin every single day uh what else god we got
proof of work fixed supply oh well i mean the big differentiator between bitcoin like coin
like coin operates faster because it has four times it hasn't four times as many coins
because instead of a block every 10 minutes like coin has a block every two and a half minutes
so coins churn out faster but everything else operates the same as far as the the release
schedule and all that stuff so i think think we're at, I'm going
to talk about, see, this is stuff I haven't looked up in so long. How many coins do we have today
in Litecoin? That's the big question. It's probably somewhere in the 75 million or existence out of
the, oh, 78 million out of the 84. So we're at, dang, what's 78 divided by 84?
That's an even number. That's 13 out of 14. So we're, gosh, we're all but, we're like 93% of
the coins have been minted. So there's not a whole lot left to hit the market. And I think
the bullish case, at least that I would make, is that you have a lot of institutional money that's slowly onboarding to crypto.
You have these crypto funds that are buying like Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, Dogecoin, all these other kind of what they call blue.
What do they call them?
I want to say blue collar coins.
What do they call them? What want to say blue collar coins.
What do they call them? What's the word I'm looking for? Blue something.
Blue chip. God, I'm an idiot. I've been so checked out for a while.
These blue chip cryptos that, you know, have been around a while.
They've been tested. They know they're not a commodity.
There's an ETF for Litecoin, all these things. So, um, those, those, these coins get included and, you know, slowly but surely at $75 a piece, these coins are going to start getting plucked up pretty quickly. At least you would think, I don't know.
Um, man, there's so much more.
I actually have a, I ain't posted actually to the nest.
I got to get, I think it's in my profile
under my highlights, possibly.
I wrote, yeah, I wrote a bullet,
the Litecoin thesis.
I hope it's still up actually
because I have not.
Here we go.
I don't know if you have to maintain something.
I'm frustrated because I just, I had canceled my freaking, yeah, so I just posted to the nest my Litecoin investment thesis, if you're interested.
A lot of these things are coming true, by the way.
Everything in that thesis, I wrote it last year about this time, was about ETFs are going to come, these blended markets, these instruments that give people exposure to a generic crypto market are all coming online.
Litecoin's included in all of them, just like I said in that thesis.
And at some point in time, the key with these cryptos, like we're seeing it in silver right now, like real silver, is like a mania starts to take over.
It's like a mania starts to take over.
Once your brother starts to ask you about it, that means things are getting pretty hyped up.
I actually have some actual silver.
I know everyone who's a silver stacker is going to hate me, but I'm going to get rid of it, I think, tomorrow.
Are you guys, anybody coming up, want to talk about silver?
I don't know why the hell
it's going up like it is unless it's the, uh, I think the AI or whatever the data centers is
what I've heard. Some people have said that might be why it's going up. Let me see silver price.
What was like 93 bucks I saw earlier. Oh, it just dropped. God damn, I knew I should have gone. I literally had went around and gathered up all my shit today to sell it.
And I was like, well, it's going to snow.
I'll go this afternoon.
I'll go tomorrow afternoon.
Now it's going to be down 10% by the time I go.
Son of a bitch.
All right.
Well, I mean, I don't know, man.
I wish people were here.
I don't know what's going on with the algorithm.
I can't get anybody to show up for nothing anymore.
Six God, if you want
to talk about something, you don't have to even
message me. I'll rant on anything.
We can rant on the
ice shooting.
Ice in general, I think, is an interesting topic.
I don't know.
What else? What else you got?
Let me take a sip.
Hang on a second.
So, yeah, I'm curious why.
Because I literally, I've just stopped even.
I check the price once in a while, and that's about it.
Here we go.
This is the guy I want.
This is the guy I want.
I need Flippin'.
He's got an audience. I don't have want. I need Flippin. He's
got an audience. I don't have an audience anymore. Flippin, I need you to come help
me out. I gave the basics for Litecoin, I guess, fundamentals, let's say. But you're
more tuned into the market today, so I don't know if you can jump on. You gotta let me know what's going on. I mean, physical silver has
flipped to digital silver.
What is going on?
I'm checked out.
I'm not even getting notifications of anybody
anymore, you know?
Yo, bro. Happy New Year,
bro. Yeah, Happy New Year.
How you been?
Oh, I've been good been good man i've been pushing
i saw you created your um you started back up on the thursday thing last week right
yeah yeah the streams yeah i started it i tried a a new format but but I was trying to add some fancy features like moving labels, this type of things on there, and live price.
But it was making the streams lag even more because I was trying to do it via OBS, so I had to just switch back to the old one.
But yeah, I'm back doing the lives.
That's good. That's good.
How's it going? Have you been making...
Dude, I'm telling you, even people I follow, I'm not getting
notifications. I got to go back into my following tab. I think that's been my problem.
I've been in the For You page instead of the following page,
you know? Yeah. the algorithm is essentially like
destroyed at this point like the algorithm is i don't even know what to make of it it's just
the x algorithm yeah like are you getting no engagement at all
uh i mean it's minimal right no like standard. I'm just gonna say but I
Mean I had a post that did like 20k but like it's like coin, you know stuff. So of course like, you know, don't get engagement
But it's basically yeah, but things are things are not like terrible so I can't complain. I'm just... I don't know. Maybe it's like sentiment is
so down and all of CT
is gone. There's literally
nobody in the streets of CT.
It's just like three, four dudes
just yelling at each other.
That's
basically all that's left here.
Man, what do you think happened?
Surprised, bro.
I think N10 was probably the freaking trigger.
That was probably what nuked everybody.
That was just so, in my opinion, traumatic for most people.
Remember the October 10th crash thing?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know what you're talking about.
It was quite a while before that.
So you're saying there's not even a lot of Bitcoin posters either?
Yeah, there are a lot of Bitcoin posters,
but most of these crypto,
you can get some of the most high headlines,
and you're going to see the impressions is just like
25k 18k or 30k from like the biggest accounts i mean there's there's a post of that like you know
when things are going up you'd see like 1 million like 800 000 and all those things now it's just
like 30k 40k it's like you know vibes down and there's like metrics that they used to follow all
of these things i think benjamin carwin was showing one where uh you know new subscriber change
or um essentially the biggest youtube uh the biggest uh crypto twitter pages and it's just like
zero there's just there's nothing it's everything
is just flat lines there's quite literally nobody on the streets of ct
do you think it was a lot of bots obviously it had to be a lot of bots right
yeah yeah maybe maybe a lot of people that are even still here are even bugged. Because real people are boring.
I mean, it's just literally done nothing.
It's underperformed virtually everything else.
Like, there's silver's new all-time highs.
Gold, I mean, it's been doing new all-time highs.
What freaking copper, new all-time highs.
You've got this fringe metal doing all-time highs. S&P 500, all-time highs you've got this fringe metal doing you know all-time highs
s p 500 all-time highs we're also 2000 all-time highs like everything is all-time highs but
crypto is just so like it's just doing nothing and everyone is just getting burdened like
i heard someone say crypto has lost its maverick status. So like, right.
I don't know.
I just think it's,
you know,
price is boring.
So everyone's just,
you know,
not understand.
I think it's something that,
you know,
once you have something that starts exploding again and like everything starts expanding,
everyone's going to come rushing back in,
you know,
it's just,
just what it is.
Feels like bear market.
Yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah. It's been just it is. Feels like bear market here. Yeah, for sure.
For sure.
Yeah, it's been just like, you know, one of those things, dude.
You got to wait it out.
It just felt like that wasn't much of a bull run for anybody, you know?
Yeah.
And I feel like the cycles have been over.
I felt like that a long time ago just because, especially I think the ETF kills the cycles.
So it's more about accumulation,
I guess.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I definitely have,
there's a lot I'm going,
dang dude,
what the hell happened?
I feel like all the,
all the oxygen got sucked out of the room, you know I feel like All the all the oxygen got
Sucked out of the room you know
Yeah bro
That's that's that's how it feels like
Like before
It's like even on the lives right
I still get like views like
You know not it's not
Like no one's there but concurrent
Viewers before I could have like
I could you'd have like 10
concurrent viewers right i mean things were bad but it wasn't like terrible but like now it was
like one concurrent viewer two concurrent viewers three concurrent viewers uh you know it's like
but you know i don't i i don't care right i personally believe like you know just times like this you know are what
builds the attitude you know
and the dispositions needed to
you know deliver
in times when things are
bubbly like if I can talk to nobody
you know I can talk to an audience
of nobody then I can definitely
talk to an audience of
you know everybody so
just keep in the discipline and you know everybody so uh just uh just keeping the discipline and
you know have you been doing any litecoin space like with litecoin the handle oh yeah i've been
i've been making the professor videos i don't know why uh they haven't been getting posted
i make like two every week but uh maybe they're just waiting for, you know, sentiments to reverse or become positive.
I don't know.
I'm just making them.
I just keep making them.
So, like, sometimes I even get, like, worried that maybe I'm making them a little too much.
But, yeah, I've been, I'm still making them consistent.
Well, I mean, I'm talking about that at Litecoin Are you guys still
Are they doing space stuff?
I'm not getting any notifications
I don't get any notifications
But I just
I don't dig into them all
Wait, you mean spaces?
I thought you were talking about the professor videos
No, I'm talking about the
Like you know, they would do Twitter spaces and have people on and oh
other and all that
But like your spaces is probably like the first spaces I've seen in a while like
Over here. Okay. Yeah, Yoshi is kind of burp talk. I think they're doing the burp talk like most spaces
most people are hosting spaces like
There's there's nobody to attend the space just like a few like, you know, the you know blue chip spaces the
Mario an awful guy and those are the ones they host spaces
But like it's it's not like, you know
Bull market times where like everyone's hosting spaces is like you can hop from space to space and all of that.
Right.
I'm just talking about the Litecoin handle.
I didn't know if they've been trying to.
Not that I'm aware of.
Okay.
Just curious.
Just curious.
Well, Dave, whatever.
I guess.
Yeah.
Maybe.
I mean, yeah.
I'm probably not a good time to get started up doing Litecoin spaces again then, huh?
Enjoy my time off as always.
I don't, I mean, I wouldn't, I don't know, man.
I, right now I'm scripting like a sketch for, because I don't know if you saw my last sketch.
It's, I think it's actually my best
yet uh it's been to my page so yeah i'm basically scripting another sketch and i'm just i'm just
going to keep doing what i'm doing i don't know i i just like you know because like this this thing
i'm doing like flipping finance is like you know it's's something I'm betting on in the long term, right?
It's, I'm still going to get to the point where I'm going to be talking about like macro,
you know, what's going on in the brother economy and, you know, all of the type of thing.
Like that's kind of like the future of it.
So it's basically going to be that.
And then I'm talking about just Bitcoin and Litecoin, you know, because it's either that
or I'm talking about like a thousand different coins.
And I don't want to be the guy that's talking about a thousand different coins.
Cause like, then you end up talking about shoes and get people burned.
So it's like, yeah, I'm talking about like something like what Graham Stephan does.
And so essentially I just see, you know, no one's here.
I'm still doing the live streams.
I'm still dropping my videos streams I'm still dropping my videos
I'm still delivering
it's just
because it is a career path
for me, I'm just seeing it as
character development
just building a discipline
that's what I say
yep, I hear what you're saying
so what else
are you doing then?
What do you do for work?
I'm going to be asking.
So currently I'm trying to start up another business.
And it's solar sales.
I'm finally listening to your advice and I'm doing solar sales.
Can you believe that?
What was my advice?
What did I say?
Yeah, you said I should sell solar.
That was last year, and I thought of it.
I could
sell solar, like solar
energy, home solar.
Oh, bro, you don't even remember.
I wonder that
did that and made a buttload of money doing it.
I was like, damn, dude.
I can imagine out there, you got
the gift of gab, you know what I'm saying?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, like
do the
pencil selling, you know what I mean? Like
do the math for them kind of thing.
Yeah.
It makes sense.
I don't know, you get like, I'm sure
does your country give, I mean, who knows
tax breaks and stuff for that kind of thing or no?
Well, fuck no. We've got like a wave of neo-tax laws that have just come into power that's just like, like the completely tax system and it's just the sole tax system is oh boy it's much stricter it's uh you know
very restrictive and it's just it's exploitative you know it's uh i mean the the crypto taxes
oh boy i can't even get into that what are they oh i i think it's like uh before it used to be just a flat 10% tax, but now it's progressive.
So it's like, I think it's a 7% or things that are like a thousand and below and it just progressively increases.
So like, I think for, you know, like tens of thousands is gonna be something like uh like a an 18 or 20
20 or something and you know the higher it goes the higher uh the percentage just gets all the
way to i think it kind of peaks around like 38 or something again um i'm not really sure. But yeah, I saw it. I saw a little graphic of it.
It was just terrible.
Dang, dude.
Yeah, that sucks.
I mean, I don't know.
Out here, it's like if you made a lot of money,
you'd pay like...
I don't want to know.
Our top tax rate is 39%
or something.
39. For crypto? For for income too yeah so it depends
here it's like if you make it in a year like within a year if you buy and sell within a year
it's short-term capital gains and that's considered income so it gets taxed at whatever your income is taxed at.
But if it's over a year, it's long-term capital gains, which is, I think, like 15% for most people, 20% for rich people, and 0% for poor people.
So, you know, it is what it is.
So what, what would, what would be considered poor people over there?
Um, gosh, making less than 40 grand a year.
Oh, so basically, you know, basically almost everybody in Nigeria freaking cool.
Well, I mean, I'm sure
it's a lot less expensive. It's relative.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it is relative.
Things are a lot less expensive
for items that
are being produced here, but when it comes to
things that are
that we get from outside the country,
like phones or laptops or,
you know, devices, you know, still standard price. So yeah, it's, it's, you know, it's not
difficult to leave, like get the basics and all of that, but, you know, it's like working and then
trying to get, uh, working and then trying to get to get uh these other things that's where the
expenses kind of like run up but yeah yeah like you're right it's uh i guess it's like it's gonna
be like a relative i don't know there's a math they used to do like i i've seen someone do that
math it's uh what's the mascot where they try to know, you know, the average is it consumer spending index or something like that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, okay. So how much?
What's like rent?
Oh, our rent is quite affordable. So
or like a
Like a two-bedroom it depends. It depends on the state Because the state I'm living, it's not a very expensive state.
So, you know, rent here is about $1,000.
Because, of course, I can't.
If I'm saying that, then you will understand the conversation.
It's about $1,000 a year for a two-bedroom apartment.
So rent is cheap.
Yeah, rent is cheap. Yeah, rent is...
Nothing.
That's less than...
My brother probably pays
$1,500 a month.
Yeah.
$1,500 a month?
Wow, it's a two-bedroom apartment?
No, one bedroom.
One bedroom?
Oh, my God.
I mean, he's living in a city,
but, I mean, not like a big
city. Uh, I would say even like houses where I am, if you wanted like a decent house, you're
gonna spend 1500, 2000 bucks. If you live in a nice neighborhood, it might be more than that.
Even it's crazy. Housing's gotten crazy expensive over here as is everything
because people are buying up assets because the money's turning to shit you know what I mean
of course of course but like the money over here is also turning to shit like I think
why why is rent in particular you know very affordable over here it's like i think about that a lot and by the way like a thousand that i
pay for this place in a year and this where i stay it's actually very nice like it you know
like when someone sees here they would never believe that is like a thousand
year apartment it looks actually very nice uh but you still see people complain but if you go to the much bigger cities
like um you know lagos everyone knows lagos you you know if you're staying on the island you're
definitely paying uh about eight million naira a year which is going to be somewhere around five
thousand dollars a year or something it's five six thousand dollars a year uh and in abuja or a
two-bedroom apartment if you get to like the
expensive places is you know it's similar and then there are some places that are particularly like
set aside for expats uh in abuja i'm very sure about abuja there are places like that and and
those places they go for thousand a month you know just like two thousand dollars a month three
thousand dollars a month they're about there are places like that so those places extremely high security it's like zoned
out particularly for expats and uh you know that's uh yeah it's a very dynamic rent system but
generally it's uh there are even some places where, you know, the rent rent for a two bedroom apartment
It'd be a as you know cheap as even you know, what's gonna be the equivalence of like
I don't know three hundred dollars a year
For two bedroom apartment like nothing. Yeah
That's really hard to believe.
Honestly.
That's really hard to believe.
Yeah.
So essentially, like, those that are doing businesses here, like, it's like, you know, for people that are actually earning salaries, it's not nothing, right?
It's because, you know, basic salary could be somewhere, somewhere you know i mean my my high school teachers right they when i graduated high school they made about um
it was about 40 000 naira or 37 000 naira as a then which is about 100 bucks
and right now they're they're making like i don't know 70 000 naira
80 000 which is like uh i don't know 70 bucks or something or less or something yeah a month so
they're basically making like 70 bucks a month uh but by the way that's uh that state is a much
much cheaper state like that's the state where you could get like a 300 you know
dollar a year two-bedroom apartment uh but essentially like for for those people it is um
you know what's food cost like what's what's a pound of beef cost a pound of beef i don't we
don't use freedom units we use brit units. Yeah, okay
2.2 kilograms is a pound. Yeah, so like I'm not I'm not bougie enough to buy meat in
You know where they weighed in kilograms So I just go to the market and I negotiate like it like an Asian mom
For you like a package of beef how much yeah like a like a huge chunk of beef so um
i don't know if i can estimate the weight but like enough to feed for about a month
and a half you know it's gonna be like i don't know like uh 40 000 there 45 so let's just say
20 30 dollars worth of um hard to know how much
yeah i mean what that's hard to know like how much you're talking about
yeah yeah that's why i like using like dollar when i when i'm
you know saying this thing so you can you can grasp exactly like when i'm using denira the
conversions won't actually yeah that's that's essentially it so like it's like nigeria is like
the way this this country is it's you know if you're doing business you're, if you're doing business, you're fine. If you're an employee, you're fine.
You know this, I don't know if you know this phenomenon that, you know, GDP expands faster than income grows.
And essentially, like you see, like there's this, you know, there's this chart I saw from the, I don't know if it's one of this u.s government um cards where uh it showed gdp
growing and you know the okay no it's from an independent research and then you know the salaries
of um ceos and top executives growing as well but then you see like you know median uh you know, median, uh, you know, wage is kind of like flatlining, not following all that growth.
So in Nigeria, it's kind of like a more Steve Baird version of that. So if you're running a
business over here, like, cause, um, I'd sell educational content before, right? so we price it in dollar because i mean if you're trying you're trying to
learn uh how to trade forex you know understand how to do all of that you know of course we're
not going to charge you an hour so like you know essentially would sell it for like 50 bucks you
know make 10 sales and that's 500 bucks 10 sales in a month and there are a lot of people that pay in
nigeria like you'd be very surprised there are a lot of people that are going to pay
uh that money to learn how to trade forks and if they get they get good value it's very easy because
like you know you even get more when people pay subsequently right um and you know people pay subsequently because they get good value
so uh essentially make between 500 and 600 you know bucks you know dollars a month
just selling forex courses you know and that is if you're actually selling something that's actually
that is if you're actually selling something that's actually not a hyped up whatever right
but if you're uh you know the other guys that sell this hyped up uh you know you're gonna you're
gonna make a million dollars in a in some they probably make way more so that's just an example
of uh you know business you could do and then you make a lot more but then people that are making
that are earning salaries i mean if you're making 500 500 uh a
month and that's like i don't know 700 000 800 000 but then you have someone who's uh working a job
and you're probably working in the bank making 300 000 a month you know which is about 200 bucks
so uh it's even you know even people that uh that have businesses that
are selling stuff they make even way more and so it's just like uh an economy that is completely
diverged if you're if you're running the business you're fine things are cheaper for you you know
yeah you know my yeah my my siblings you know one of them import stuff from China and sells
essentially weeks all of this stuff that ladies like yeah and then there's a lot
of money in that a lot of money and then you know people that earn salary they
basically just struggle is it foreigners to come in and start businesses
i wouldn't even i wouldn't recommend it like zero zero out of ten i would never recommend i
would never start if it's a physical business especially i don't believe i will ever start
a physical business in nigeria because just too much uh, like, I guess like red tape kind of thing?
Or it's just meaning like it's too many hoops to jump through?
Oh, boy.
If the hoodlums in the area don't rob you, the government will.
Right.
Yeah.
The government will.
The government will rob you.
Don't even be shocked.
They will fucking rob you.
They'll bring up shit like you got
This is good that he was he said he wanted to make a
I think it's oh my god
I forgot the particular business that they were trying to make.
And so essentially when they came, you know, the government asked them to pay for, you know, the land that got leased to them by a government agency.
It turns out that it wasn't, it wasn't the original document.
And so the government came to seize the land and he spent a lot of money he's moved in like they
quite literally waited for him to move in like set up the whole thing there and so they come and you
know they came and they say they were going to seize the land or he has to pay xyz oh boy and
that's a trap because you can never pay it completely you can never finish paying you know
any form of extortion amount so he just kept paying and paying and they just closed
the business you know lost millions of dollars you know they're just gonna keep i mean oh you
have to pay this oh you have to pay that you have to pay this uh you can come up with like a million
different you know you know shit like come up with a million different uh excuses so you gotta
it's just so hard it's so difficult and you gotta deal with all that
you know and you still have to deal with the locals right sometimes you can have people that
have um very stupid ideas i mean there's this uh person i don't know i think i've told you this
the story before where a friend of my sister he he built a hotel in this area.
So the area is called Aja Lagos.
So essentially, he built this hotel.
It's an international standard hotel.
And so his friends fly from the United States because he's a foreign,
he's an immigrant, so he made a lot of money in the United States.
So essentially he's friends
from united states they all fly oh come you know they see his hotel and you know the road leading
to his hotel is absolute trash right because it's like you know he built the hotel in this rural
area so you know they laugh at him oh you come build your hotel in this rural area so he thinks
about it like you know what how much is you know road i could i could i mean i spent millions millions of dollars on this hotel it stops then that i could probably
spend like a hundred thousand or something and just get this road done right it's not like it's
a major road construction right so the the locals blocked the work they said he has to pay
blocked it like what just standing in the way of the machine? Yeah, they told him he cannot build a road
in your community unless he pays them.
Okay.
I think you did tell me this.
Yeah.
So what did he do?
Did he just say forget it?
Or is it just, it's a never-ending bribe?
No, it's a never-ending bribe.
You're never going to pay.
You can never pay extortion completely.
You can never finish paying extortion. It's a never-ending bribe. You're never going to pay. You can never pay extortion completely. You can never finish paying extortion.
It's a never-ending bribe.
You just keep paying and paying.
He didn't even start.
He just forgot about it.
He just forgot about it.
It's so frustrating.
Yeah, it's frustrating.
So that's why the best thing you can do is...
It's like...
You ever see Jerry Maguire?
You ever see Jerry Maguire?
You ever see the movie jerry mcguire
no what's the movie about it's about a sports agent who gets sick of the fake corporate world
and he writes this thesis this whole like diatribe at the beginning at the beginning of the movie and
hands it out to everybody at the office he He basically is like, we're going to change the whole culture of being an agent,
and we're going to be more focused on our players
and building great relationships with our players.
And basically, the bosses are like, they just fire him immediately.
Everyone's just like, what are you, crazy?
So he's going on this time cruise.
And it's partially a love story
as well, but he's got, uh, Cuba Gooding Jr. is his, the only athlete that stays with him is Cuba
Gooding Jr. Who's like this football player, super flashy dude. And at one point in time,
there's some famous lines from it. And one of them is help me help you. And he keeps saying it to Cuba Gooding
Jr. It's like, please just, I'm trying to help you just participate. If you'll just do what I
tell you to do, it's going to work out. And that's what that guy's probably thinking to these locals.
Like I'm trying to bring money and jobs and people here. Why would you make this difficult?
Help me try to help you, bro.
But, you know, people can't see 10 feet down the road sometimes, you know?
They just want to be paid today.
They don't care about tomorrow.
It's like there's people who can see into the future and others that can't.
I mean, imagine if you could actually see into the future.
How hard would it be to convince
people that you
actually could have that vision?
And to ever
believe you and trust you.
Even if you've done it before,
pulled off a magic trick,
they'd be like, I don't know.
I do think
it seems like. I think some people have an ability that appears to be like magic for the
rest of us,
you know?
Oh yeah.
People with foresight.
Yeah.
I mean,
I'm,
I go back and forth in Elon,
but I think he's a guy that has this,
some vision that we don't all see,
or he kind of sees the pieces fitting together in a way that a lot of us can't understand.
And yeah, it just seems like, how does he know?
How does he keep hitting home runs, you know?
And yeah, it's almost like in a way your best bet is to find people like that
and just mimic what they do or have
faith that they're they're going to keep being successful and the hardest thing to convince
people to do is say these guys who have it figured out we should be investing all of our resources
in them like when you start it's so funny like we go, well, college has to be for everybody.
Everybody should get into college.
And if there's kids that are excelling, like, what do we do to help the kids at the bottom?
Well, the thing you, the way to help the kids at the bottom is to lavish the kids at the top and like, tell them, like, make them super smart, challenge them and instill some morals in the good kids because they're the ones that are going to go out and dominate the world.
You know, I think it's pretty predetermined by the time you're like 15 years old, you can pretty much figure out who are the kids that are organized, high achieving, like they're going to go out and tackle the world.
And there's some kids that just aren't.
And that's OK.
It doesn't mean they're going to go out and tackle the world. And then there's some kids that just aren't. And that's okay. It doesn't mean they're bad people.
But like you invest your money in the good people.
Because they're the ones that are going to produce incredible results.
They'll come up with an invention that just makes everybody's life easier.
But we're so busy worrying about making everybody feel good about themselves.
We're just wasting our money.
It's a waste of time, dude.
Imagine if I have a kid.
I have two kids that are going to be like five feet tall.
They're the tiniest little kids.
I don't know.
I must not have fed them enough.
But imagine if they had a gym class where they're like, all right, guys, we got to make sure we play basketball for the five footers.
So the hoop's only going to be six and a half feet tall.
Everybody else would be like, why are we doing this? This is stupid.
It's essentially what's going on, you know?
But anyway, I'll get sidetracked if I keep
talking about this stuff. Did anybody else pop
talking about this stuff does anybody else pop in here or no your aztecs i posted this in the um
in here or no?
well hey aztecs here i would actually you know i'm glad you're here if you're willing to talk
because i don't know anything about lit vm i just turned off my litecoin brain you guys came on board
and i was like just checked out mentally so if you wanted to come on
and talk a bit about it that'd be great but yeah i even posted this in the market light coin thing
and like that place was active for a while and nobody even looked at it i was like what happened
like i just feel like it's been yeah it's been a drain dude people are mentally drained. Yep. Everybody's
heading for the exit.
Well, you know.
You know how it is.
You know what's crazier or what's
funnier is the fact that everyone's
heading for the exit,
but Litecoin is at...
Litecoin is essentially
at $80.
We're at $80 and everyone's like heading for the exit it's just it's it's it's fascinating to me like these are the prizes where you know people lose
faith like wow like that that if 80 is a bottom you know if 80 is above the price where people are absolutely you know losing their their shit
it's like yo bro like what's the top gonna be right that's that's the way i'm saying it because
like you know crypto is uh for some reason like crypto is a very sentimental asset, you know, and it's like, yeah, if this is where the sentiment is worse,
like, in my opinion, that's very bullish.
Yeah, I mean, you know, this is a, you know what, when fees on Bitcoin get really high,
that is when everybody is trying to send Bitcoin at the same time.
And the same thing is the price.
The price moves dramatically when everybody's trying to rush in at the same time.
This is happening in silver right now.
Like my dad told me, he said, my dad's in rare metals.
So he's been in rare coins, I don't know, 40 years almost, I guess.
He's had a business for a while.
He should probably retire, but he just likes doing it.
And there was somebody he said, like one of his employees' husbands or brothers or something was like, came in to buy silver the other day.
And I was like, this girl's worked there for 20 years.
He's never come and bought silver.
All of a sudden he's buying silver
when it's 70 bucks.
And I'm like,
oh, that's a big sign.
It's about to turn around
because it's about mania, right?
You have a mania.
It goes vertical.
And then everybody who bought in wakes up and goes, okay, time to get out.
And then it all crashes back down.
So it's these ebbs and flows, you know.
I think one of the problems Litecoin had is it peaked.
2017, it peaked too early.
It went too high, too far.
Too far, too fast.
And I think it just changed people's expectations. When in reality,
it probably should have only gone to like, I don't know, a hundred dollars that year,
a 25 X or something like that. And I think that just distorted the way people saw it.
And it was because it was one of the few, Oh, here Aztecs... Oh, you guys both fell off for some reason. Sorry. I thought I was so good
that
you guys were just
in stunned silence.
That's what I thought was going on.
But no, you just weren't up here as speakers.
Go ahead, man.
Hey, what's up, brother?
Hey.
Yeah, I've just been listening.
It's just nice to listen
sometimes aztec okay i just want to make sure i don't call you i'm gonna call you a wrong name
or something you know but yeah no i know it was all coming on blind and i just it's like one of
those things i just uh i missed so can you give me like a brief understanding what lit vm is without taking like an hour
yeah i'm good at it man i mean basically right now litecoin you can send it you can receive it
it's a cryptocurrency it's faster it's cheaper than bitcoin you've got privacy but that's what it
is you know it's a cryptocurrency what we're doing is we're just building on top of it so layer two
is the term we use but um what that does is add new functionality so when mweb came uh the mimblewimble extension block came charlie opened that up and
now people have a new utility with litecoin you can send it privately right we're opening up
pandora's box we're saying litecoin should have all the other functionality which is all of web3
so anything you can think in web3 so anything think in Web3, so anything you can do on
Ethereum, anything you can do on Solana, etc., you can now do with Litecoin. So Litecoin is going to
be the gas on the chain. Litecoin can gain yield. It can back real-world assets. You can build strategies.
You can take the agentic world
and very easily plug Litecoin into that.
And we think this is so important
because Litecoin is definitely gaining
a lot of institutional interest.
It has a massive community.
And we don't wanna see Litecoin left out of the web3 race so it's
it's basically just adding all shouldn't say i don't obviously
so how does it function is it like a
is it related to god what's the thing god i'm so freaking out of it my brain just i gotta say
hi to flipping finance real quick yeah hey bro hey i just want to say hi to Flippin Finance real quick. Hey, bro. Hey, I just want to say, hey, much love.
Brother, what is good, bro?
What's up?
Hey, everyone else that's joining.
Let me share the space, bro.
Is this animal?
What does it function?
Yeah, go ahead.
How does it, like, when you, what's the consumer interface?
So like when you, I got, what's the consumer interface?
So if I, if I'm jumping on a website, is it something you guys have as a third party?
You're controlling it or it's all on a second layer kind of thing?
Yeah, it's just, it's it's part of
the mainnet you know it just it just runs in parallel as an extension block just think of like
this is just living on top of it but it's instead of an extension block it is a chain that lives on top of a litecoin so it's like if you get
into the technical side of it which i like i could definitely get into but the technical side of it
is is uh it's extremely innovative but if you're not like really big into tech a lot of people
don't really care about it.
You know, they're like, is it decentralized?
Does it work?
Will it be fast?
And what, like, what can I do with it?
That's what most people care about.
But to answer your question, yeah, I just, it lives on top of LitVM.
It's decentralized and it's a chain.
So it's basically a platform that lives on top of Litecoin.
Yeah.
I'm trying to remember the name
what was the before we had um like ordinals and stuff what was it that people were building on
what was the side chain or whatever you called it like i'm talking like three years ago god i'm
just blanking uh talking about drive chains no no no i can't think of it it was like an old
abandoned software people brought back. Never mind.
OmniLight?
Yes, OmniLight.
That's what I'm thinking of.
Yeah.
OmniLight, yeah, it's an older technology.
It was first, I think on Bitcoin, if I remember right.
Yep, yeah.
And just enables people to create tokens.
But the thing with that,
that's what I was trying to figure out.
This is not, this doesn't.
No, no, no.
Because like all you do is you can create tokens on Litecoin,
but you still don't have programmability
or, you know know smart contract functionality which which means like
you can't program those tokens or litecoin to do something you know that that produces like yield
for instance and and so that's it's a really cool technology and actually i'm talking to
lord about figuring out if we have any synergies but it's a really cool technology. And actually, I'm talking to Lord about figuring out if we have any synergies.
But it's totally different.
Yeah.
And message to Phil.
I know this guy is.
I always like bringing up new people.
Let's let message to Phil talk.
This could be a troll.
Let's just see.
I don't know message to Phil at all.
What's up, man?
We're talking.
The last trolley.
I'll handle whatever, but you seemed quite excited to speak.
So what's up, man?
Litecoin is...
My name is not Phil. So if you came in here thinking you were sending
a message to Phil, you might be in the wrong place.
No. Philip DeFranco and I, we've gone
back for more than a decade. I was Philip
DeFranco's first $100 patron.
Who did Ani DeFranco?
Remember her?
The whole beautiful bastard thing came from me.
Okay, I don't know.
I know Philip DeFranco.
That's like old school YouTube days.
Go ahead.
Message.
I'm not.
The top in the media anymore with,
without like signing and having to like,
you know,
read,
like follow the, the guard rails in the gutter ball you know like
in the bowling alley lane you can only do what you're told after so uh but anyhow that's why
they come after me is because i'm more free than any freemason anyhow about the market dude light
scribe wallet has been artificially suppressing their services toggling their services for the
ordinals uh on litecoin since the week before Christmas.
I tried to bring you all a more Merry Christmas and bring up the Litecoin Moonbirds and the LightPunks and other Litecoin ordinals,
but they inhibit me from doing so by a targeted attack against me,
an artificial suppression of their Litecoin ordinal services on the Lightscribe wall in particular,
and in accordance with the chicken market.
How do they do that on my dragon on my dragonborn rismo account i have uh made videos showing how they do this it's it's just like uh it's like the wizard of oz you know they got
it's the jew behind the curtain they just like flip switches and pull levers and stuff and that's
what they do and that's why it's the whole middleman you know that's why you pay taxes it's the Jew behind the curtain. They just like flip switches and pull levers and stuff. And that's what they do.
And that's why it's the whole middleman.
You know, that's why you pay taxes. It's the whole like their religion is to divide and conquer you.
And that's why communion, you know, is duly opposed to that.
And that's why they censor me.
It's like communities when two or more come together to share an idea.
And my ideas are pretty powerful
i'm the digital price chief commander i help uh commandeer the market in the right direction and
they haven't been wanting me to do that so i've been under attack the last few months it's been
very difficult for me to speak to you publicly here now there thank you very much for your time
and consideration and i'd like to help you understand that collectively here humankind is under attack and it is a holy war
ultimately it comes down to the whole fact that the jew does not treat you as a human being
good lord man you think this is you think in israel they're worried about chicken market
i had a billionaire israeli man threatened to kill me last week twice. I have videos of this.
Would you like to see? No, I'm
good. Okay, I do
want another scenario in which you found yourself
in the company of a
billionaire.
I used to be a
billionaire myself. I have several friends
who are billionaires. It's not that
I mean, dude, everyone has some
money. Some people have
more money than other people. I'm telling you, as the Digital Price Chief Commander, my voice is
being silenced. I'm under attack by Israel and Mossad and the United States government.
Please read my proclamation, Bitcoin ordinal inscription 60540984. It tells you a little bit about myself and my position.
Bitcoin inscription. What number?
Yo, bro. I've got a message.
60,540,984.
60,540,984.
Because I'm like 007 and the answer to
1984 is 1776 my friend thank you for
your time and consideration i love you peace be with you yeah i've got a question bro is it is
it anti-semitism that got your previous account banned because like this looks like a new account
that you've got here no uh the jews are very hateful and they hate the truth I speak.
I'm a whistleblower in Big Pharma
and I was trying to save people from
their democidal agenda.
You see? Please don't twist me.
I'm not the one spewing hate.
I'm the one trying to save you from those.
You want me to read it?
You understand?
You were talking to read it?
You were talking about the organ?
Yeah.
Is this way off track?
I get entertained by this stuff.
Please do read it.
It's a quick two or three minute read.
It's just a one page text inscription.
Took me two years to condense it to one page.
Okay.
I'll give you that.
And then we'll talk about Litecoin.
All right. Let's do that. That sounds excellent.
So, yeah, I wrote that right after high school.
I, you want me to give you your name? Is that okay?
Please do. Yeah, I made it public.
I, Colton Brummel, will continue to express my opinions, which are protected under the United States Constitution. Please do. Yeah, I made it public. is someone that has been selected by the deep state, usually CIA or FBI, to unwillingly participate in a government experimental torture program.
This program is designed to break down the individual and neutralize the person
using psychological, physical, and emotional stress.
The ultimate goal of this program is to control the entire global population,
total absolute control.
Okay, this makes me ask you, interjecting here,
you're saying you've been subjected to these programs? Because I know people have, obviously.
Yes. Yes. We're all products of our environment. Why do you think I wrote that?
Well, I was wondering, when was this?
I wrote that in 2014. It took me 2012 to 2014 to condense that into one page. And then I inscribed
it on Bitcoin a decade later. When did the torture begin? How old were you?
I remember being gang stalked by Freemasons and Jews since grade school.
Yeah. Were you institutionalized in some way? did you start talking about it in grade school after i proved how the court in kendall county had lied to me moving the goal
post ruining my life about my driver's license situation where they broke my car window on the
night of my grandfather's funeral smashing my window when i was trying to be responsible and
sleeping the parking lot at a bar that my neighbor invited me to. I got a DUI and I did everything asking me to get my license back in court. The court lied to me
and I made a YouTube video with evidence and paperwork that proved how the court had lied
to me. They suspended my YouTube and then I made a tweet saying that if the court is like, who can I trust if the judge is to lie to me and the court can't be trusted?
Like I might as well just like hang myself in the woods.
And so they they arrested me off my parents front porch and they said that I had bipolar because I had proved how the court had lied to me.
And so, like, yeah, it's like they do everything in their power.
That's why you're being spied on everything you say and do is being used against you.
That's why they spy on you.
So they can inverse and double everything that you're about to do to prevent you from moving forward.
That's how they have power.
Usury is the worst of all crimes.
Usury affects all of us.
At scale, they print money out of thin air, yet they need yours too.
Yeah, no, I get that part.
Okay, I'm going to continue.
You ready?
The CIA provides the funding under the black budget
and directs the U.S. shadow government
and deep state agencies.
Homeland Security Information Center, HSIC,
was created in 2005 to serve as
the Department of Homeland Security's
decision-making and implementation oversight board.
These are the primary groups involved. Council of Foreign Relations, CIA Operations, Air Force Space Command 50th Wing,
Department of Homeland Security Intelligence Analysis, Office of Director of National
Intelligence, Department of Justice, National Security Division, FBI National Security Branch
and Defense Intelligence Agency. Quote-unquote, targeted individuals refers to hate crimes that are being orchestrated and conducted by the CIA, Air Force, FBI, DHS, and Mossad, globally affecting millions of people and their families.
These hate crimes are a violation of fundamental human rights, intellectual treaties, and the U.S. Constitution.
For Air Force and CIA officers, it is an act of high treason and a war crime of the Geneva Conventions.
All right, I'll finish the quote.
The people shall not be deprived.
This is from the House of Representatives in 1789.
People shall not be deprived or abridged of their right to speak, to write, or to publish
their sentiments in the freedom of the press as one of the greatest bulwarks of liberty
shall be inviolable.
Every freeman has an undoubted right to say what sentiments he pleases before
the public. Now that shit I can get
on board with. I think
that's the most foundational thing in the world.
God bless
you. Thank you for your time and consideration.
Seriously, I can't thank you enough.
Hey, I've often thought
about this. I would love
someone who's got a shit ton of conspiracy
theories. I would love to actually's got a shit ton of conspiracy theories i would love to
actually dive into conspiracy theories and challenge them not to be like i like playing
devil's advocate you know i'm saying very good yeah yeah yeah no i'm just saying it's not a theory
i've proven it yeah i mean as long as it doesn't take like six hours to dive through it you can
connect some dots i have i have six months of evidence.
I have six years of it. I could go on, I could make power. I should make PowerPoint presentations.
How has this impacted your life though? Like, do you hold a regular nine to five?
Uh, I am healing from significant trauma, bro. Like I dude, like how does this affect my life like i'm telling you last
week when i was just at my uh just going to the smoke shop down the road i had a israeli businessman
approach me tell me that uh the reason why i'm being silenced online he's like if you you better
shut up or like next time you know you got something coming like threatening to kill me what were you
saying that's so uh bro this guy just like came up to me and and he just like started arguing about
how christianity is fake and i'm like yeah okay whatever dude like judaism is like based on lying
to god and he's like yeah whatever like you better up. We'll kill you next time you say anything like I'm like dude like
People are so evil
Made you a targeted individual like what is it you were saying? Well, I
Well get this bro. My grandfather was a master mason and he had friends who were master chief commanders in the Navy
Okay, I am
I I've been like the freemasons they you know like master chief and spartan like john 117 like they wanted me to be their like
super soldier bro like since i was a little kid but I didn't want to like kill people because I have a soul
and I'm a good person. So like, I'm just not like a fan of like, in it, like blowing up innocent
people and stealing their shit. I'm a much more big fan of like good, honest business and treating people with dignity and respect.
And so I feel like it's kind of like my civil duty. I feel like God put me here to treat,
to teach these people because at the highest level, it's like spiritual wickedness. You know,
we fight against the principles and principalities. It's my job. This is what I'm, this is the work
I do is like, I have to teach the Masons because they don't think of people as people.
Like the only way the Jews treat people as people is like if they sign their death contract to become a Freemason or a henchman of sorts.
And so the Jews, they want to be served.
It's, it's a tough conversation for many people, but it's the truth.
And, and ultimately.
Yeah. Yep. Yep. That's all in the their holy books yeah yeah man and so it's a tough conversation but it
is the truth and uh and it needs to be recognized because if not the species may die and i'm trying
to save humankind you see yeah? Yeah, I get that.
I mean,
I wouldn't want to,
but,
but it's not all like people use the term.
Like,
like they,
they talk about different bloodlines.
Like all people are all the same,
you know,
like that's,
there's definitely distinctions between,
you know,
the terms that you're throwing around and,
and not all people are the same, you know, within certain bloodlines, right?
Right. I think there's the diversity of species is good to recognize, but we should, as a species,
treat each other with dignity and respect.
Ultimately, it comes down to this.
Manners make it men.
And how we treat each other determines our character individually.
And so I think that's kind of what we're coming to now. There's a lot of these people that like to hide behind anonymity.
And that's how the masons work
that's how they've like they're hidden in shadows you know they they hide in plain sight you know
like oh boopy yeah it's so like it's all all shall be revealed you know it's uh yeah I can go on and on but the masons are like really the
foot soldiers of of the you know they're the facilitators of if so just to throw this out
there if you believe in all of that uh you know the masons are the facilitators of the families.
Correct.
Yeah.
The entry level of the Illuminati.
And,
yes.
So that's not even the top of the food chain.
it's just the,
but that's the thing is like,
I guess for better or worse, I was like born into the top of the food chain.
So I'm just telling you from a perspective of privilege.
Are you a bloodline?
I, yeah, like my grandfather was a master mason
and I just chose not to join the masonry.
I have a signed petition that i just did
not sign myself i have there's other masons that signed it for me to turn in but i just never wanted
to sign to fill in my petition because i recognize that if i were to do so then i would be for the
rest of my life under a death contract and i'd rather not have that
you see what i mean what is the practical influence very familiar yeah what is the
practical influence that freemasons still have like nowadays is like i know like you know i've
kind of like seen documentaries about the whole char Minson and their heydays. But what are the Freemasons
still doing nowadays?
Well,
nowadays, I mean, they're just the
henchmen of the Zionist Jew, bro.
They just do their biddings.
And the way they've gotten
away with it and the way they still hide
is like all Masons
to become a Mason, you have to
sign a contract. And that contract is a debt
contract you sign your life away and you're under violent threat if you are to say what is on the
contract after signing it it's like a non-disclosure agreement and so that's how this secret society has prevailed for so long.
It's because they, it's, it's, it's just like purely evil, you know, it's like in every,
you know, you're, you're under fear and threat and yeah, it's just not nice.
Yeah, it's just not nice.
But ultimately, like the Knights Templar was originally founded to protect and cherish the relics of Jesus time.
However, it's in modern times been like most things all but lost and corrupted in its original meaning.
And so yeah yeah free so like i i have a lot of friends and i know a lot
of families and in the business world you have run around and uh met a lot of people so i'll just i'll
keep it simple but freemasons just take an oath. They're not, uh, not, I've never heard of any of anyone signing anything.
Uh, you, you basically just take an oath to join, but I'm not sure if you're referring
to something else.
You, you, you, um, you have to sign a petition in order to, it's a, like a request to become
a Mason, you know, you petition to become a Mason in order to it's a like a request to become a mason you know you petition to
become a mason and you're invited yeah you're invite only right but but not yeah i'm not aware
of a physical contract that has to be signed it's just a it's just uh so well i'm telling you as one
who has signed it but has not turned it in anyone who has turned it in would be under a threat if they were to tell
you about it so that may be why you haven't heard of it from them so what's going to happen no no
are they going to enforce it you'd be amazed i i don't that's a good question. That's a really good question. And I think ultimately, uh, the dissidents of the Freemasons themselves, there's, I think there's a lot of like decent people who get like guilt trapped into that kind of ritualistic thing.
um and then it's like there's no way out it's a trap you know you're stuck and
i don't know let's talk about the market if we can i think light coin should be a thousand
different lodges might be doing different things but i am like believe me i'm pretty deep into this
stuff uh i'd rather not talk about this on this pace but but i it's okay you know it's basically
it's not a story and i think that's legit
me and the freemace i was looking you up oh yes i have no need to lie sir you're a young guy though
you're pretty young i'm yeah yeah i'm telling you i like bro like i last like i had a personal
invitation to come here to thailand from a retired disney animator barry anderson he is one of three
hollywood directors who have tried to set me up for the truth i speak in the last few years
i'm having fbi agents try to fucking like trip me up in my day-to-day just because of the
power level that i am a threat to their system like these vampires bro they don't like that i
know you sound like is alex joan well yeah one of them actually clint westwood he's coming here
but you know it's a famous that we always talk about in here.
It was on Tosh.0.
The guy who fucking...
Shit, dude, my brain is not working anymore.
Tosh.0, bro.
The guy who's like, they look at me like I'm a vampire.
Never mind, dude.
No, I mean, you know, I'm...
Okay, just tell me, you're from the midwest right
that's all i'll do it yeah i grew up yep yep yep illinois i'm already stalking you
no but uh well it's terrible that's why i like what is so important you know the decentralized technology
so an animal if i could huh yeah if i could get this guy hey basically like yep this is why we're
here in blockchain because the system is messed up and and uh we need an alternative system that is fair and, you know, gets rid of the, you know, disintermediaries and censorship resistant.
And so that's why we're here.
Yeah. Yeah, that's what we're here yeah
yeah that's what I'm trying to bring
right now is
like we were just talking earlier on about how
houses are up
S&P is up
Dow Jones is up silver gold
everything's like running
and it's a lot of this
just because people don't know what to do
certainly elites the rich don't know what to do certainly elites the rich don't
know what to do with their money and they're trying to find something that's salvageable
at this point and doesn't feel like it's a hards ready to collapse you know but the reality is
they should buy light coin it's well i mean it's eventually they they will figure out what a better form of money is.
You know, you guys see how Litecoin has more dollars transacting than Bitcoin in the last few months.
People are using Litecoin because it has lower fee.
Yeah, I was surprised.
There's a gambling site called Steak or something like that, that the most used currency on their site is Litecoin, even more so than dollars.
And I was like, damn, that's crazy.
I could almost one of those things you just go, I almost can't even believe it.
You know what I'm saying?
It just seems like way too crazy to be true.
But I mean, you know, now I say I want to go check it now.
But I swear to God I saw this stat and I was like
that's mind-blowing. But people
will understand it. It just takes time
for them to see like, oh, why would I
use, why would I keep switching back to
a dollar that I don't even trust anymore?
Like the dollars, the dollar, the
euro, what else? How many
currencies are even worth a shit
anymore?
Nuon. the euro what else how many currencies are even worth the shit anymore new one i bought has been strengthening i've watched over the last two years the tie bot has strengthened to the dollar
yeah yeah when i first came here it was like 36 bot to dollar now it's like 31 bot to dollar so
that the bot is strengthening and the dollar is weakening.
Yeah, I do think some of this stuff going on, the ICE stuff, I don't want to get too into this stuff, but it's way too...
Oh, I got a lot about that.
I'm sure you do, brother.
It's a war on consciousness dude what is government government control mind
ice agents israel facade bro it's it's literally like they use meth in world war ii dude like i'm
it's it's a war on consciousness like connect the dots here so no it is one of those things
where i start watching it and like the fact like d DHS and the White House are almost trolling people.
And they're purposely going into places that don't want this.
And you're like, why would they?
Stay panic mockery.
When you go, hey, we're popular in Nebraska or whatever, Wyoming.
Let's start in Wyoming.
Let's start in Texas and Oklahoma and Kansas where we have a ton
of support. The local police will help us. We can post some gains, right? We can show people,
hey, we can do this peacefully. But no, they're going in and not only are they going into the
most contentious places, they're taunting at the same time. You're like, what? That doesn't make any fucking sense.
Why would you do that?
It makes sense when you realize that it is war.
They're not actually doing what they're claiming to do.
Satan is the great deceiver.
They're saying one thing and they're doing another.
They're not honest people.
They're saying that they invaded venezuela for oil they
invaded venezuela to control the drug trade it's a war on consciousness my friends wake up more than
the drugs there's plenty of natural resources that dude that is definitely not about it oh yeah you
know it's there's no no reason for us to go in because of oil.
It's because of the drugs.
Is this your Trump?
Is this your Trump?
You know what we should be doing?
We should be converting our car.
You can convert your car to run on hydrogen and oxygen like Bob Lazar has demonstrated with his Corvette.
But they don't want you to know about that.
How dare you?
Your fake news. I don't want you to know about that. How dare you? Your fake news.
I don't believe that.
Let's let's.
Yeah.
How dare you know about sustainable technologies?
We must bully you about our sustainable Dima side agenda.
Six God speak.
And actually somebody else was up here.
I feel bad because we were kind of, oh, he took off.
So that was my buddy.
My buddy.
He a bunch of my buddies joined. I just want to say, Hey. Yeah was my buddy. My buddy, Gus. A bunch of my buddies
joined. I just want to say, hey.
Much love.
Buddies and Litecoin
people.
I generally don't have an agenda coming into
these things, and so I let the conversation
flow. But let's let God...
What do you go by? What is it? Six God?
Is that what we should call you?
Hey, man. Yeah. It's six God.
Like,
I don't know.
I must've pressed the mic by accident,
but boy,
did this take a turn in this chat?
Isn't like,
to me,
this is one of the few places you can truly just sit here and speak freely.
And so,
and I like,
I mean,
granted,
I don't know.
I mean,
look,
Phil,
I'm going to tell you the truth
a lot of people are gonna hear what you say and they go it sounds like the rantings of a crazy
person i'm gonna tell you the truth well a lot of people aren't working at the highest level
of geopolitics like i was born into so i get that i get that but but well here what my only point is
be mindful of that if you truly want to get your message across.
I know. You're right, though. My grandma said that myself to me as well. She's like, you know,
the things that are obvious to you aren't always so obvious to other people. They don't understand
you as easily as you might think they do. I'm understand everything you're saying however i don't i don't
think that it's so there's multiple ways it's gonna get and the way that i'm going about
challenging the system is instead of speaking directly about the things which i think there's
a place there's time and place for everything but by instead of directly challenging the things which i think there's a place there's time and place for everything but
by instead of directly challenging the system with my words i'm building you know and i'm building a system that is a disruptor to these uh these systems that are in place whether it's the banking cartel
or you know government and we can put pressure with these tools,
with these decentralized solutions where,
where the government has to adopt and has to move towards,
you know,
building more free things or the banks have to be more transparent,
et cetera,
because we're building things that people adopt.
And so I'm all for it.
I used to be someone that used to speak out against the system a lot more, and I'm fully aware of it.
I was also born into different things.
I understand all that.
But I just don't think, personally, me, my opinion, I don't, like, someone has to do it.
like i someone has to do it someone has to go out and speak out but the most powerful way i think
Someone has to go out and speak out.
that we can make the most impact and especially get a lot of people to join to really change the
system is to build these systems to build better more fair systems bitcoin was you know the thing
that kind of kicked everything off but you know how you have Litecoin now which is you know faster cheaper to use you have privacy like even if you look at what how uh Litecoin has impacted Bitcoin you know because
Litecoin continued to innovate and now Bitcoiners have adopted Litecoin things and that's like the
same thing that we can do with any of these awesome technologies that we're building to impact the
world to actually make change in the world because unfortunately you can know a lot of things but if you just shout about it a lot of people
just don't listen because like you said animal you know they just think you're crazy so i stopped
yeah that's your animal i underground. What are you talking about? Oh, my God.
I bet your animal, bro.
That's all the time.
But do I sound like you?
He's Canadian.
I'm insulted by that.
Oh, my fucking God, dude.
Oh, my God.
I just fucking got liquidated $650.
What the fuck is happening?
God damn it.
His faces usually coincide with massive dumps.
What the fuck?
Dude.
Oh, fuck.
Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck.
I'm fucked, dude.
Were you long?
Fuck, dude.
I was long light point.
I have this terrible problem where I sell
the top and then I buy the top.
I don't have like,
bro,
dude,
why the hell did it just go down to 73?
What was there?
digins continue to long this fucking shit.
You never long like coin.
That's like light coin one to one.
Like you just don't long it.
You just buy spot.
Oh boy. Light coin lion called it earlier it earlier when we were when we had that you should buy like point moonbirds on chicken market oh yeah
i just buy i just buy the real thing but when this uh like when landed i can't believe this has happened. I gotta... Oh my god, dude.
I gotta go, guys.
I have to go somewhere now.
I gotta go fucking put my cash into
Vaisalana.
Damn it.
Sorry about that, bro.
Fuck the Jews.
Kill the Jews to save the world.
Peace be with you.
Yeah, see, I'm not for that.
My dad used to have a saying,
opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, and then my opinion is that it's not okay.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Like, why are people so...
I noticed there's a lot of
geo-hating going on, like,
very recently. I don't get it. Like going on like very recently i don't i don't get like i'm
not i don't really know or have an opinion on these things right i'm just i'm just listening
but i personally am of the opinion that like any form of like direct hate towards any group
like regardless of what the like if it's targeted towards like a group like blanket rather than like
an objective assessment of a particular person's actions it's just it's racism right it's just not cool it's just just
what i think and when like someone's like saying oh it's the jews or this is like like i don't know
well but what they don't understand is and there which makes me skeptical about them is the guy that was just talking is, uh,
there's a lot of bloodlines that different bloodlines that run certain things, you know, but people harp on particular ones. Sure. Sure.
There's a, you can draw lines between certain things, but, um,
it doesn't make sense to, to say what he said at the end there you know like
uh that's that's just like crazy talk to say kill people like the the best thing you can do is is uh
you know like obviously defend yourself but uh you know building is a lot better than killing people
yeah i mean it's i mean i don't know i look at that stuff as Building is a lot better than killing people. Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
I look at that stuff as just people spouting off.
You know what I mean?
Just saying dumb shit.
People do it all the time.
I guess I'm just...
I've become numb to it.
I'm doing that.
I've been doing these spaces so long.
I've been so many.
But I don't know it is funny
i think people assign you know they everybody notices patterns you know what i'm saying
and so if you can assign some sort of negative thing oh those people are successful it must be
you know they must be doing something or they must be up to something it's a zero-sum game in
a lot of people's minds.
And this is the whole, what we were talking about earlier with the people in, in, uh,
in Nigeria that are impeding progress, even to their own benefit because of some sort
of jealousy or short term thinking.
They don't understand the bigger picture that cooperation is better than
being an adversarial with everybody all the time. So, you know, you can't blame the world.
You know, most people aren't spending their day worrying about you or anybody else. They're worrying about their own shit. And so the best thing you can do is worry about your own shit
and just get busy making yourself better, making your position better.
The odds aren't stacked against you.
If you're like a good person and you're trying hard, you're going to you're going to get somewhere like you'll have a life.
I mean, I don't know. I think people just want too much, I guess.
Yeah, like but one thing about like people that see, you know, wealth as like a zero sum game, I personally think that's absurd, because like, wealth is just one of those things that that's actually infinitely scalable. I mean, if you think about it, right? You know, it's like in old Asian societies, right? You didn't have this economies that can scale and you know there's limits to you know what people
could produce right so it's like there's a limited stuff that you know limited number of animals you
can hunt and you know food you can gather and all of that resources is limited and so people could
like it's almost like a zero-sum game to like compete for those stuff like in modern societies
like we can scale all of this stuff like we can just we can make as much money as possible like the sky is big enough you know to play wealth games in a way like everyone's
gonna because like wealth is just pretty much producing shit like we just produce more stuff
and everybody has more stuff and everybody gets wealthy if we can like coordinate and incorporate
together it's like the only thing in my opinion that are like zero-sum games are like societal
power structures like for example example, like political power or
whatever other societal structures.
People that are
distributed by fiat.
Those are zero.
Exactly.
Yeah, those two.
People that see wealth in general
as like a zero-sum game, I don't know, man.
We can all be wealthy.
Yeah. With that said, I. We can all be wealthy. Yeah.
With that said, I actually picked up a book today.
It was delivered today.
I read 100 pages through it so far.
I don't know, 300, 400.
It's called The Psychology of Money.
I found it super interesting.
Sort of some of the things you just touched upon.
But if you get a chance and you read or you're on Audible or whatever,
The Psychology of Money, I think it's by Morgan. Let me just check here.
Morgan.
Housel.
Okay.
Really good book.
Really good.
Good read.
It was again Morgan who?
Housel.
H-O-U-S-E-L.
Psychology of money.
The psychology of money.
What's the brief?
Sounds familiar. Like what the concept is or what's the brief sounds familiar like what the
concept is or what it's trying to tell you like it's it's telling you this that uh money is a
an agreed upon social contract correct right and sort of it's not so much about how to make money
it's more about how not to lose it it gives a lot of like inferences historical sort of analogies and and real world sort of uh context and stories that
sort of you know build a story and man if i found it interesting so far again like i said only 100
pages in but uh probably one of the best books since um since uh ray dalio's book there, The Changing World Order that I took in.
I was
this week, I don't know if you guys see that
I think it's Kai Sinat.
I don't know how his name is pronounced. I don't watch
him much, but he
reads books on
his live stream. He just started reading books.
There were some posts out there kind of
jabbing at him that
there were a lot of words he doesn't know.
And he's like reading the books, going through them.
And if he doesn't know a word, he looks it up in the dictionary.
How do I pronounce it?
What's the meaning of it?
And he had to do that a decent amount.
So people were kind of mocking him for that.
But like, I appreciate the guys trying to get out there and read some books.
And I've always thought about doing that because I used to love out there and read some books.
I've always thought about doing that because I used to love reading kids' books to my kids.
I read Harry Potter to my daughter.
I was doing the voices and stuff like that.
I was like, that might actually be an interesting channel to just read a chapter at a time.
Not to be anything dramatic. don't know, dramatic.
Maybe just putting it into a form that people can digest.
Although I guess maybe there'd be copyright issues,
wouldn't there?
Are you allowed to read a book
on a live stream?
I don't see why not.
I mean, it's kind of stealing content.
I mean, if they have an audio book,
you're kind of stealing the audio book, right?
That's a good question. I know like music.
I can't just speak my mind.
But I don't know. It might be something I'd do because I would like to read more classic books.
I'm not a big reader. I've read a few things in my life.
I've always felt I like to read for information. I
don't like to read for entertainment, but I think there's a lot of stories that probably
have a lot of very deep meaning and, uh, I'm missing out on them because I just go, ah,
books, fuck it. Ernest Hemingway. He was probably a hack.
Have you tried Audible?
No, but that's my point.
That's how I've consumed books maybe in the last few years.
I just don't really care about fiction books.
I don't know what it is.
I do like them when I read them, but it's not the first thing that when I sit down, I want to sit and read a book.
It's just not, I don't know.
It's not on my agenda.
And I would like to be more in the habit of it.
Because there's... I mean, God, dude, there's so much out there.
We have such high
dopamine
thresholds nowadays.
But I don't know if people
would even want to listen to it.
No, but you should
probably read Nature.
I read Thus Speak zarathustra um yeah so create what that was a lot nature nature oh like fred frederick yeah frederick
yeah so that's um psychological stuff right or sociology more more philosophy i mean it depends it's a lot it's a lot of it but like
more philosophy i don't know why people hate that dude but like uh you know challenges someone's
concept of like everything it's just you know morals uh you know the way we there is something
he actually touches in you know thus speaks arathustra where he just um
essentially makes a case that um and i i know i've brought this up before where um and this is
these are his words right so like according to him like the weak weaponized morality in order to force the strong to do their bidding so um where they cannot win they essentially try to
uh make the the strong feel like they should succumb to their level and you know where they
cannot compete they essentially you know the only way they can compete with people that are succeeding
is essentially to you know call for the death of that person because it's only when that person falls
that then they can get on their level or something like that so there's a lot of things about uh
about concepts like that and those concepts of course they're at direct odds with society i
mean he essentially uh says like you know looking at the poor with compassion as
you know it's kind of like uh you know condescending the way he frames it it almost
looked like uh you know he's saying compassion is a as a sign of a weakness in itself or or even
evil but you know that's interesting what i was just about to say to you what struck me
when you were saying that is that i've been surprised that the, um, at these, I'm going to bring it current here, these protests, these ice protests, which I don't know if you see that over there, right? These deportation cops are out there and the people protesting them are barraging these people with hate.
people with hate. And I don't, and I look at that and go, that's not the way you're going to win
people over. Just like when people get online and they, they talk down to you and tell you,
oh, you're an immoral piece of shit. Basically that doesn't convince anybody that makes people
dig their heels in even worse, you know, where the way to try to reason with someone is to
talk to them, be nice to them, be kind to them.
And they'll go, oh, this person's actually not so bad.
And they'll listen to you if you're actually nice to them.
Even if they don't agree with you, they'll at least give you some time and consider your point of view.
So it's weird that he says compassion is a weakness.
Yeah, that's a little strange for me it's a dark weaponized
no like that's that's why people like misunderstand like in philosophy spaces
like nature is very well hated mostly because of like you know the nazi regime they essentially
used uh his concept of the ubermensch to kind of like promote their agendas around
eugenics and all of that nonsense. But like, you know, there's a thing about like, that's why I
say like, for example, I'm a black dude, but I listen to Nick Fuentes, right? As strange as that
sounds, like I like listening to people because like, it's only when you get to hear what they
have to say that you can get the nuances, right? I know you could you could fight treasure you can find treasure in trash right
and you can see some form of wisdom in essentially anywhere so like it's like when you read and you
understand the context a lot of things that nature says i actually disagree of course i do not think
compassion is a weakness but like then you start to see that there are some contexts where
like compassion is being weaponized you know it's almost like it is demanded in a way like for
example oh my god there's there's there's no way to yeah right no i i know it sounded like i get
i get wrapped up in these trans conversations and every single one of them turns into well
children are going to kill themselves if they don't do this.
And it's like, well, hold on a second, right?
They're weaponizing compassion.
They're trying to say, well, you don't want children to die, do you?
Like, oh, Jesus Christ, no, I guess not.
Yeah, so anyway, come on, sorry.
He essentially makes the point, like, you know,
because another thing he he was actually
anti you know platonian philosophy and that's another thing i disagree with i'm very pro
platonian uh you know philosophy but he essentially says that you know the construct around the
morality of the week kind of came you know from socrates right so like pre-socrates um before
socrates it was like you know, Athens, these guys, the
strong just go take what they want.
And so because the weak cannot get what they want from the strong, everyone is essentially
in his opinion, trying to just exert their will to power.
So every man has this innate desire to exert their will to power and the strong just do
it. innate desire to exert their will to power and the strong just do it but the weak can't so they
try to you know use their numbers to impose this you know sets of moralities that just uh force
the strong to essentially bow and just play their games and just essentially be weak so essentially
they weaponize that's his own construct of it.
It's interesting.
It's like thought-provoking, bro, but where does morality stem from would be the question.
He's saying that it's coming from the weak have created a strategy to not be dominated, essentially.
Exactly.
But where does morality actually come from?
That I think it doesn't come from the weak.
Morality, I think, comes from the strong.
So that would challenge his thought process there.
Here's the question.
You have to define weak and strong.
I think if you're talking about the rich and the poor,
are you talking about the physically strong?
Those are in power.
Or do you mean those who are like, are morally upstanding?
Yeah.
So like he, he mostly.
I mean, to me this.
Yeah.
Just to, just to like answer that, like to me, the strong are, depends on this scenario, but it's a person that has the ability to control the situation so it could be like physically stronger it could be uh has more resources it could be
has more control it's just like i i think that uh uh you know like much of what has been dictated has always come from the strong and so
It I would think that morals also came from the strong not necessarily from the weak
so I like that would be something really interesting to look into to
See if it's true that
That because his thought process there is that uh that uh morals come from the
weak yeah so like he one thing i i actually absolutely disagree with um nature is the fact
that he completely reduces the importance of intellectual strength for example he doesn't
necessarily regard it and because of like he he's his point is just essentially that
you know everyone is trying to you know exert their will to power everyone has what they believe
and they want to ensure they move things to the direction of what they believe and the strong are
people that you know the main definition i think the main distinction i was trying to make about
the strong is like people that aren't they're not pretending about it you know they this is what they want and they just go
for it uh and his own definition of the week are essentially people who try to create this they are
disingenuous about the whole thing and instead they're trying to play these games of oh you know
if if you if you seek good things if i mean all of the you know construct, oh, you know, if you seek good things, I mean, all of the, you know, constructs around morality,
you know, wanting good stuff, being proud,
and all of the things that, you know, we consider as evil,
you know, he's essentially saying these are, you know,
characteristics of the strong, these are things that the strong do.
And so, like, according to him, it's like, you know,
the weak just are very
disingenuous about it and they try to exert their will to power by weaponizing all of these things
but yeah it's a it's just something that what do you mean what does he can you honestly what does
he mean by weak i'm curious what he's what where that word how that's applied when he says that
about people just just people is generally around just
his entire philosophy is around imposing or at least in that particular um aspects about like
people you know imposing power and it was just just people who do it but like they can't physically
do it or they can't you know do it so they find ways to just redefine the meaning of it
and try to do it disingenuously.
The meaning of success, you mean? Or goodness?
What do you mean when they define the meaning of it?
What do you mean it?
Yeah, the meaning of goodness, the meaning of what is moral,
the meaning of what is just.
Yeah, he essentially makes, like, before Socrates,
like, whenever whenever the you know
the athenians wanted to go to war they didn't need to find reasons to justify the war they just went
and they took it and you know after socrates and now everyone has to find a justification so like
all of that is like yeah he kind of like makes the point that all of that is the prevailing of the week.
But yeah, it just gets a lot of things obviously wrong, in my opinion.
And he just completely diminishes.
And his perspective on strong and weak, I disagree with that a lot, of course, because I mean, I'm very Christian.
course because i mean i'm very christian well i think i feel like this is something where
i got wrapped up and i i hate racial politics but something triggered me where it was a
conversation around like basically white countries right basically that you know they're how
the posters and how awful they were and i'm like like, you know, in my opinion, again, I'm a white guy living in a white country.
The white countries, the white-led countries of Western Europe, America, Canada, Australia, have been the most accepting of anybody else.
And that's what I'm looking at.
I understand there's been a horrible history to it, but they have course corrected more than anybody else has. And to me, but,
but what I do know is that like, I don't know the full story. I can't see the world from somebody
else's perspective. And so what I may see as like morally good is not necessarily universal good. It's the
good I've been taught. Right. And the thing I've been taught is, yeah, like you don't, you don't
resort to physical altercation. You resort to like the law and you, you know, you defer to words as opposed to violence, which on the surface sounds good.
And it's been pretty successful, but there's not a point to say where it's obviously also been abused.
And the people who are in the position of power dictate the rules.
They dictate the language and they continue to perpetuate themselves
in the seat of power.
You know what I'm saying? That's what happens
everywhere.
There's no one so gracious as to give
up their position.
You know what I'm saying?
That's why
we have to outbuild them.
Yeah, if anything.
But, hey, guys, I got a hop.
But yeah, much love, guys.
And Underground, sorry for calling me the animal.
I've only listened to Animal a couple times.
I did meet him in person once.
And I remember a long time ago, he had added me into a chat so i thought i thought that he was sitting
behind the underground panel this whole time i gave him control he may still have control of his
account um but he and i you know he can't start coming to space i've been doing these for
four years over four years so you know it was all litecoin for three and a half years
and i just kind of recently just took a break and um yeah he started coming a couple years ago so
we're good friends and we were trying to start something different i wanted to give him control
so he could run spaces with the account everything so i think i've had that even in the same room
sometimes people think we're the same. They get our voices confused.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's basically what happened.
But now I know.
I'm a ground animal.
Good dude.
Good person to be confused for.
Okay.
All right, man.
I appreciate it.
Good luck, guys.
Good luck, bro.
uh catch you later bro thank you yeah i was i wanted to uh say something i don't know
Catch you later, bro.
Thank you. Yeah, I'm a pleasure.
oh boy okay yeah yeah so another uh context that i can use to explain this guy's thought
uh yeah so he also gives like this scenario, right, where you can have two people.
So the first person he describes is strong and is like, oh, person A says someone's succeeding.
And let's say this person buys a Lambo.
And so person A goes, this person buys a Lambo.
You know what?
I'm going to work hard.
I'm going to buy my own Lambo.
And so he goes ahead and he works hard and he achieves it because he desires it.
And he's strong, so he works hard and he gets it.
And person B says someone gets, you know, his friend gets a Lambo.
Now, person B desires a Lambo.
But because he's not strong enough to, you know, chase that dream and work for that dream, he redefines the meaning of success.
And, you know, you know, tries to convince himself that he does not want a Lambo.
And then he tries to diminish, you know, the importance, like even to the point where he reduces the worth of that and, you know, calls it evil and calls it whatever.
But, you know, he essentially makes the point that, like, that's disingenuous.
You're like, he's like, look at that dude's gay ass Lambo.
Yeah.
So something like that.
So those are the people like.
We're all haters.
So she was a hater.
So actually, that's what this book, The Psychology of Money, sort of touches upon and sort of i guess he refers to it in the book as the the men in the car paradox where um sort of no one is
impressed with your possessions as much as you are and interesting little bit where he goes on
i guess he was a valet for a while and and it's super interesting and he touched upon some of the
things he talks in this book. I definitely recommend it.
Psychology of Money.
I've been really enthralled with it this whole day.
Do you mind telling everybody about it?
Go DM me.
Can you just DM me that?
I might take a look at it.
I love these conversations so much.
Maybe it'd be good.
Maybe I should do book talk or something.
thing to start reading books and uh i'm just too lazy
Just start reading books.
And I'm just too lazy.
yeah i'll read i'll read the psychology of money i think is actually interesting i think i have to
read it should we do a twitter book club i don't know i don't read that much i just like i read
stuff i i i like reading stuff that i know is going to make me uncomfortable. What if we
said Psychology of Money, read two chapters
and we'll come talk about it.
You already did 100 pages.
It must be an easy read.
No offense.
It must be
incredibly easy if you got through 100 pages.
That was a joke. I'm just making jokes.
I don't know you.
Yeah.
I think I need to read that psychology of money though
the only
oh go ahead sorry
the only take away that I
actually like the thing I really paid attention
you know
from prospect Zarathustra
just you know internalizing it
like most majority of the
things there are discarded but the one that really stuck was that particular one where he talks about
like people who diminish the the things that they desire but they they are not strong enough to
achieve and so they diminish it uh you know which is disingenuous because it's you know in their
mind it's not like they already did not want it in the first place. They're only diminishing it because they can't get it.
And I, you know, when we think back to myself, I'm like, holy fuck, I do this shit. Like I do
this shit a lot. And, you know, that was kind of like one of the big drivers that like just
flipped my mindset. I'm like, you know what? Fuck it. If I want something, I'm going to work hard
enough to at least
give myself a reasonable shot and if i feel i feel honorably and just can i tell you something in my
real life that i think this is pertinent to is i've lived in this i live in i've told everybody
my time toledo ohio is like the most boring fucking city in the world it's midwest it's
heart of ohio and i have friends who have moved and I go visit
for work. I go visit these different places. I'm like, man, there's some great places. I kind of
wish I had done that, but I never did. And I always like chalked it up to like, eh, you end up in the
same routine anyway. Why would I want to move down there? And it wasn't certainly something that I
couldn't do, but there was definitely a level of whether it was fear of failure or like maybe, yeah, like failing somewhere and then crawling back home.
Like, oh, I fucked up. Right. Like some element or the inconvenience of it. Something drove me to say, I don't really want to do it.
something drove me to say,
I don't really want to do it.
And I sometimes think would I have been better off to take that chance?
But I don't know that.
Yeah.
I don't know that that's like saying someone failed to achieve something.
So here I'm going to justify it.
So in Ray Dalio's book there,
he sort of hints at that saying like over,
over the course of history,
you study all the rise and falls of empires and
stuff he says the number one um the number one um key to success right if you will or not i'm sort of
the number one um beneficial thing somebody could do is move move places to to greener pastures so
to speak not intelligence not not uh you know skills's just, you know, you move from a war-torn area to somewhere else and you build a life.
It's sort of historically that was probably...
Move to where the prosperous people are.
Right, right.
I actually look at, like, if I had a bunch of money, I look at a new car as an anxiety attack.
Like, I don't need the insurance.
I don't need to be worried that someone's going to run into it.
Like, it ain't worth it to me.
And maybe I've sold myself on that, right?
Maybe psychologically.
Yeah, it would be nice to go around it, sure.
But the trade-off to me ain't worth it.
I don't have a million-dollar car.
You know how much stress I would be under driving that thing every single time I took it out?
100%.
I'd rather have a nice, comfortable car
with a nice stereo system
that if it gets dinged up, don't care.
You know?
So it's definitions of success.
Nietzsche has its own definition of success.
But this is me, you know,
being the guy who doesn't have the things flipping, justifying in my own definition. But this is me, you know, being the guy who doesn't have the things,
justifying in my own mind.
And at the end of the day, if that makes me happy, then who cares?
Yeah, absolutely.
I think the power, the power, like the, oh, sorry, six, six,
if you want to say something.
No, no, no.
I think the power of like
and like what i try to do is um like again like it's just uh i try to do it like you know
pre-setting the standards and you know as opposed to like setting a standard and redefining
when one fails to meet that standard so like now personally
i i don't have a car and i don't need to have a car you know i've never seen having a car something
special or something this or so like me not having a car is not like a failure on my path i just
i don't i don't i don't drive to you know i don't i don't see the reason to have it i don't i don't need it
uh but for example you know there's a certain output of of content or work i supposed to do like
you know i i have to do that right if i fail to do that and then i'm like saying uh you know what whatever these whatever that like so that's just what i did and i find it like since i've been
doing it it's just you know it's more fulfilling it just makes you feel more like uh it makes me feel more like
i'm you know i'm in control of of my life and and but like again it's you know it's just me it's
it's uh it's at least the one thing i really liked about the probably the only reason why i
i would even say anything positive about nature because nature, oh boy, a lot of what he's saying is
very uncomfortable.
Yeah, I'll go check it out.
I mean, I've heard his name thrown around
forever, so
I didn't realize how he was definitely a
I looked at the key points here.
It's, you know, basically
nihilism.
Yeah, yeah. You know what's funny? Before I decided to make this a Litecoin
space, what I was going to make this a space
meaning or purpose.
When there is no work, basically,
where are we going to find our purpose?
Because we're about to enter an era where we don't have to work anymore.
And it's going to get like the,
the weak in this scenario will have no value to the powerful.
And so we need some society's ready for a 30, 40, 50% unemployment.
I know.
We need morality.
That's what I was saying earlier.
You need to instill the successful people who need morality way more than the poor people.
So, yeah, we need to enforce our will to power on them somehow.
Yeah.
Or your other hope is that you just pray for some
benevolent dictator that's your best
in the long run
imagine like uh imagine i don't know if you saw that that clip from
peter schiff where they asked him is it necessary that the human race you know survives and uh
i wasn't chef it was theo oh sorry yeah yeah sorry peter peter peter sorry
my brain's fried it so he essentially hesitated
what do you say what do you say say? They asked him whatever was necessary that the human race survives.
And he essentially hesitated to give an answer.
And I was like, holy fuck.
Sort of comes off as a transhumanist, doesn't he?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, you could have the philosophy that nature evolves to find the most efficient and effective method to, I don't know, achieve a goal.
And we're inefficient beings.
A collective is more powerful than all us trying to communicate with words, for sure.
I'm not saying that that's a good thing.
I'm just saying I wear his mindset.
He's like a,
he's autistic,
right?
He just looks at like efficiency is that's his morality.
Achieving a goal effectively and efficiently is the ultimate,
higher purpose.
That's all I can imagine.
And I guess when you find yourself at the, you know, the highest station,
one couldn't sort of attain, what do you want after that?
It's the things that aren't attainable.
It's maybe forever living or downloading your brain into a computer and coming back into a biological, I don't know. There's so many weird,
weird things that sort of could arise from that mentality of thinking or
thought thought line. But yeah, Thiel is a weird character.
I'll tell you, I've always been very free market and everything.
And I know a lot of these billionaires become rich through government money,
lot of these billionaires become rich through government money. But I think, you know, in the
last year or so, I've really have started to rethink a lot of things because I recognize that
you can't have this much wealth and power in so few people's hands and it's only going to get worse.
And so how do you combat that? Like our crudest instrument is just tax
the living crap out of them, you know, but that has the moral ramifications of it. So do you,
like, how else do you find a way that we can, I don't know, do this in a, in a way that we can, I don't know, do this in a way that addresses the needs and interests of everybody, but still also rewards successful people.
We don't want them to not feel, be motivated by success.
But, I don't know, I think it's what we're running into is that there's no barriers anymore.
So, the internet's made it so that one guy jeff bezos can basically
he could almost single-handedly conduct all commerce in the united states
by by his one business or in regards to ai where you have eight guys deciding sort of the future for eight billion people sort of analogy right yeah and so what's the long what's the what are we
And so what's the long, what's the, what are we striving for?
Do you really, do you believe like it's that we're actually close to, you know, like an autonomous economy, you know, the structure of LLMs and their limits.
I don't know if we can get from LLMs to AGI.
Like, are you optimistic?
I think AGIs were probably created 15 years ago and then, you know, in the bottom of Cheyenne Mountain somewhere, but have yet to be fully realized.
yet to be fully realized.
What we're given in a,
as a whatever retail capacity is far,
you know,
reverse engineered or what have you from what the capabilities they have,
you know,
or whoever they may be governments or,
or large,
large corporations.
Well,
so I think,
I think what I'm saying is that the message,
like what I feel like America,
when I was a kid, what I was told America is, is like, you know, you can achieve anything.
If you put, if you grow up here, you work hard, you can have the, whatever, the home and the car and the family, you know, it might not be glamorous, but you're going to have a solid life.
And we have a lot of freedoms that we should not abuse.
We should be thankful that we have them.
Freedom of speech, right to bear arms.
These are huge things that we have that no one else has.
We have a great legal system that we are mindful of the fact that when people are downtrodden,
we should do our best to give them a fair shot.
In my mind, I guess it's the land of being fair to people.
It has opportunity, but treat people fairly.
Don't steal from them. Don't cheat them.
If you're a good person, you'll succeed.
That's what I feel like America was.
That's what I feel like America was.
And now I feel like somehow America's become hyper-capitalism on steroids.
We're like a dollar over everything else.
You know, and if I can make money and it's at the cost of somebody else's life,
well, tough shit.
You know what I mean?
It became very like 1980s Wall Street, almost.
You know?
Everyone's all coked up trying to figure out
how they can take advantage of their neighbor.
And that's...
I don't know how we turn that shit.
You know?
Am I...
Do you guys understand what I'm saying?
I'm like, I mean, I're not in America flipping, but...
No, no, no, I get it.
I feel like the vibe has changed in the last, maybe since, I feel like it's been since 9-11, but maybe it's been since 2008.
Things have just changed.
I agree.
So I'm actually from Canada here, Toronto, and I think, I feel in're we're we're not only in an existential threat but
probably a death of I wouldn't call it an empire but no you guys are in bad shape bad shape
it's sad and I mean a lot of the problems that a lot of Western countries are it seems almost
like it was a concerted effort,
you know,
with a number of issues.
They all seem to pop up in these Western countries and ideology driven type,
type things.
It's what Flippin was talking about.
It's the weak manipulating the strong.
Right.
I feel as if they've done something immoral.
They've challenged the morality
of the people that created
the freest societies on planet.
The most successful places
in the history of the world
by like a freaking mile.
And it was like,
you did something wrong.
And yes, there were some wrongdoings,
no doubt.
But we've done everything.
We're trying to do everything we can to push forward and be progressive.
But no matter how far you push, you'll always be immoral.
You'll never be able to overcome the sins of the past.
And that's what Canada is.
I mean, I love you guys.
Canadians are great people.
Their compassion is their weakness.
It's coming full circle, Flippin'.
Their compassion in Canada is their weakness.
Great media here is like literally psyopped a whole generation.
And so many of our elders here have just Trump derangement syndrome or whatever have you.
I mean, I don't agree with, you know, 10% maybe of what he says.
But, hey, look at what the alternative
could have been. Tim and Kamala
or even previous Biden.
I disagree with him, but
people go,
oh, he's the next Hitler.
Dude, have you been to the United States?
Somebody made a comment and they were
talking about, it was a video
of some people hanging out in the street playing music
or something.
Oh, it was talking about third places.
I think what they meant is like, you have your work, you have your home.
Where's the third place?
The United States doesn't have this.
And I'm like, what are you talking about?
You go out every weekend.
There's people getting along from every single, like, dude, the diversity in this country is bizarre, right? It is Asian, Indian, Jewish, black, white, Mexican, South American, Persian, European, all in the same place having a good time.
Like, we are not at each other's throats.
I just think that, like, you know, yeah, Canada and all of Europe, they've been just, I opted to believe in that America is like this.
We're all shooting each other all the time
or something. Like 99%
of people get along and have a
wonderful time in this country.
I love America. I go to Miami all the time.
Grew up in North Carolina, South Carolina
all the time. So like I sort of have
maybe a little bit better perspective than
the majority of people who haven't left their little town
here in Ontario or Canada or whatever.
But yeah,
this is a hyper polarization.
It seems that by,
I don't know,
higher ups to sort of keep the infighting amongst themselves.
So I don't,
they can get away with whatever they want.
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's,
it's a,
you know,
we all get at each other's throats too much,
I guess.
It's like the same time.
We're having the same conversation, just in seven different ways.
Nietzsche?
Nietzsche?
We'll call him Nietzsche.
He predicted the internet, basically, that people who do nothing will berate people who are achieving to make themselves feel good.
Is that what's happening?
Pretty much.
It was that Einstein who said, we'll never be more connected, but more disconnected.
Yeah.
What did he say about stupid people?
He had a really funny quote about trying to talk to dumb people or something.
I forget what it was.
Limitless stupidity
and something else, isn't it?
Compassion and stupidity.
Something about how people who know something are willing
to acknowledge it.
The endlessness of stupidity.
That's the hard part.
Ultimately, at the end of the day
what we have to do is figure out a way for people to embrace their god damn it i'm gonna sound like
i'm gonna create a cast system that somebody doesn't have the capability and it's okay to
recognize that and say you know what i'm just not like look look at me. I'm a five, eight white guy. I'm not ever going to play in the NBA and that's okay. Right. I'm not getting supermodels. That's okay. I'm not
a super musical talent. I'm not going to be famous. That's okay. I don't beat myself up over
that stuff. And I don't know why people think that like everyone should be able to do everything.
Every person born should be allowed to do whatever they want. They can try, but at some
point in time, when you get to a certain age, you say, look, this isn't your thing. You're not capable
of this thing. And that's okay. Leave it to the people that are capable of it. And taking smart
people and shoving them into important roles like medicine and engineering and physics and shit where
you can actually get productive things out of those people. Don't push them into,
I don't know, sociology and philosophy and things that can't produce things. No offense to sociologists.
So the Einstein quote was, two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe.
Is that for real?
That cannot be his quote.
If that is, that is a killer one-liner.
Like, that's Mitch Hedberg level of, like, top comedians of all time.
And I'm not sure about the universe.
Oh, that's funny, dude.
I almost feel like that's a fake quote, but anyway, it's attributed to him.
I don't know whether.
All right.
I'll let it be.
I won't question it.
The story's too good for me to question it.
Well, anyway, I'm about, you know what?
I'm about to sign off. Flippin', I know it's late for you. This has been
a fun conversation. I haven't logged on in three or four
weeks, and here I come in and Litecoin crashes as soon as I get on here.
I have that power.
Underground and Flippin', I sent you both a link to the Amazon for the book there.
All right.
Enjoy.
I do need to read.
I do need to read, and I'm sorry that I don't.
Maybe I'll find a way.
Maybe reading books on YouTube and actually diving into them would be interesting rather than, uh, what I'm doing here.
All right,
guys,
it was a lot of fun.
I actually am glad we got people in here and had a good conversation.
I do these every week at nine o'clock,
Wednesday nights,
Eastern.
So feel free to join and I'll talk to you guys next week.
All right.
Bye.
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message me. I'll rant on anything.
We can rant on the
ice shooting.
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schedule and all that stuff so i think think we're at, I'm going
to talk about, see, this is stuff I haven't looked up in so long. How many coins do we have today
in Litecoin? That's the big question. It's probably somewhere in the 75 million or existence out of
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the bullish case, at least that I would make, is that you have a lot of institutional money that's slowly onboarding to crypto.
You have these crypto funds that are buying like Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, Dogecoin, all these other kind of what they call blue.
What do they call them?
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Everything in that thesis, I wrote it last year about this time, was about ETFs are going to come, these blended markets, these instruments that give people exposure to a generic crypto market are all coming online.
Litecoin's included in all of them, just like I said in that thesis.
And at some point in time, the key with these cryptos, like we're seeing it in silver right now, like real silver, is like a mania starts to take over.
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I know everyone who's a silver stacker is going to hate me, but I'm going to get rid of it, I think, tomorrow.
Are you guys, anybody coming up, want to talk about silver?
I don't know why the hell
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And I was like, well, it's going to snow.
I'll go this afternoon.
I'll go tomorrow afternoon.
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Well, I mean, I don't know, man.
I wish people were here.
I don't know what's going on with the algorithm.
