🚨LIVE: DEBT CEILING VOTE COVERAGE

Recorded: May 31, 2023 Duration: 0:46:30

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at the invoice but let me see yeah so it builds this bill is gonna fail no way no way no way no way so we've got we've got basically only 48 votes left and there's 200 no 187 yes so
Yeah, but it's not is it how many votes do they need to pass? The need 218 votes to pass right so they need 18 sorry the need 218 votes to pass to the need of the 25 yes votes from the remaining 48 more of them are repot their Democrat votes and up to now the Democrats of all vote no
For fuck's sake. So there's six. So basically the votes are not really hold on hold on exactly the Mr. Misinformation ease up Bro, I'm already from the book. I've been rebuke. So the man is not incorrect So I'm on is oh my god Holy shit. I just changed the title by the way. Yeah
I just said poise to fail. I did not say it's gonna fail. I said is it poise to fail. Yeah, so anyway, let me read out what the situation is right now. It's in a global life. There has been so there up up to now there's been 387
votes. There's been 187 Republicans vote yes. 29 Republicans vote no and six have not voted at this point. In terms of the Democrats zero have voted yes.
173 have voted no and 40 have not sorry now So we have a first few Democrats are voting yes now, but anyway in total, but one nine one oh now they're out while there's lots of Democrats are voting yes now
So we've now got 200 now. You're a little bit of work on the back. Yeah, switching now. So they actually may not fail because a lot of Democrats in our vote in yes to the bill.
So how many total votes we have from the Democrat side? So total we have a hundred and eighty eight and fifteen of votes yes but then fifteen is monumental because now there is more yes votes to no votes.
It's gonna be a nail bider, that's for sure, which is obviously good for us up here, but really awful for the country. So the only need 11 more yes votes. And we're good only need 12 more no votes. Shit.
16 more yeah or 16 more sorry oh my god all right I'm watching the live too so well so you know to give people context yesterday there was a pretty big day with the Republicans that they came out and they said hey do
do not vote for this. And they pretty much, I would say, barredown actually threatened his fellow Republicans that they're going to look at you a certain kind of way. They're going to talk about it a certain kind of way. And I think the
I mean, considering 29 of them said no, I'm not surprised that it worked. But what I'm more surprised by is how many Democrats said no. Clearly, we're 210, yes, 201, no, I was just
Nick now. 211 to 200 Carlos. So why is it changing? So 211 I guess but you can't go down. No, Carlos is right. He's 211 to 2. Also Nick missed the number. Did he?
I'm not fucking yet to 11 to 200 then 211 to 200 so 211 yes 213 so just five more votes needed Oh, we pass pretty much here Yeah, I just just four more needed to
past the bill.
I don't think you know what happens if the that ceiling doesn't get lifted.
Not sure anything would have happened right or 18. That's it. All right. It's done It's done. Thank God. All right There we go Yeah, their whip cans are pretty good on something like this. They don't bring the vote up unless they got the votes passing
What happened in 2011? Did it go through multiple votes? It did. No, it didn't. Immediately got accepted. Yeah, so people keep thinking about 2011 in my opinion correctly. I think 2011 was that we got a downgrade. That is actually what happened that was kind of
Everything becomes more expensive getting access to liquidity gets more expensive all of these bad things happen so So yeah, there you go somebody changed the title thank God because I now is feeling bad, but it's you know, it's it was a very very close But
close vote and kind of speaks to how people are looking at this current.
I will say I wanted to hear from Doc first actually and I don't find myself saying that often so I'm happy that I do have that question. Doc, how disappointed are you and your Republican colleagues that first of all this was not a very favorable bill. Now we can gloat right they we were told not to
We can all go just kidding. There was word on the street that people that are that lean left should not be gloating about how good this bill is because we don't want Republicans to notice I guess, but clearly Republicans were not happy with this. Were they? No, clearly not, but I don't run with that crowd.
in the way that you might think. I happen to think that Biden was committed to letting the currency default. I think that works in the interest of China. I think that works in the interest of Biden. I say that because most people that I know, at least who aren't
informed economically and fiscally like this group is they sort of equate what's happening now with the budget impasses that have shut down the federal government in the past and that's always worked to the Democrats advantage and eventually the Republicans have had to capitulate in part because the
media so strongly tends to favor the democratic narrative, the liberal narrative. And I think that's what I expected going forward. So none of the debt ceiling has been increased. The omnimus budget of 2022 was sort of locked in. But in my mind that was the case.
Anyway, future budgets starting in November and probably the November continuing resolutions will have to go through before we get through to hold on hold on. I'm so sorry. This was not the actual vote. No, this passes the bill.
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Exactly this was sorry, that's why I was like this makes no sense This was just the vote on the rule To actually bring this vote to the floor. This is not the vote on the bill. Thanks Katie for sending that out and how do these results compare to 20 and
11 then Donish Well Mario first of all we don't even have these results yet so that ceiling vote live is is we gotta change already did already did already did sorry that ceiling coverage oh perfect thank you I changed it to votes sorry I got like freaked out so this was
So, you know, they have to have a rules vote first and so I have not checked exactly as you guys are and it's an easy mistake to make. I wouldn't expect the final vote to differ very much if at all. Someone is going to pass the rules that's going to lead to a vote on the underlying bill.
isn't likely to vote for the rules package and then not vote for the underlying bill. So I think you can expect that vote coming up shortly and my analysis would be the same. Is that Biden wanted to shut down the country. He thought that that would accrue to his political benefit. It also I think helps in terms of if you think he's controlled by China.
It probably is in China's interest to have us default. It's in Brexit. How can you think that Biden would want to be the first president to default on the US debt? I mean, I just can't understand why that. He would blame it on Congress and he would blame it on the Republicans and the media would go right along with it. That's where I think that.
I mean, I feel like that is definitely not the common, I mean, I don't know who is even saying, you're the first person I've ever heard say that Biden, right before an election year, would want the country and the economy to collapse. That just seems very antithetical to what
Let's say they're an evil president. Again, but she said they're completely evil. Even an evil president wants to get reelected for a president to destroy the currency that's guaranteeing they're not going to get reelected. Do you agree with that doc? Well, I don't think Biden will be standing for re-election. I'm with Hillary Clinton. Clinton came out of
weaker soil guy once they've Biden age is certainly consideration. There are Democrats now, hardcore Democrats who are mad at the DNC because they're stating that there will be no debates. And I think as Robert Kennedy becomes more popular, that's going to be an increasingly untenable position. I have
I think Biden is intentionally trying to destroy our country right now. The open border is one way of precipitating. Oh, then, Dr. C'mon. That precipitating the war. Why would the President of the United States want to destroy the country? He could be. I think our currency was certainly tick-a-hit.
But I think cooler his would eventually prevail and we would get a debt ceiling. We're talking about why this vote here happened the way it did. So that's my analysis and people can make fun of me if they like. Oh no, no, I was just laughing at certain points of it. I actually think it's quite interesting.
It's a different point of view and we love those. Tara, how are you? LaWalta, do you walk us through why Doc is wrong? Why Doc? Well, first of all, the only president I know who wanted to destroy the economy was Donald Trump, right, who said, right, recently, let's go into default. No biggie, right? So, you know, he was just to be clear.
and we want to be balanced here. He didn't say that he would want to do that when he was president. But he certainly as a candidate has been very clear that we should just go ahead and let us go into default. No big deal. He said that we might as well default now because it's going to happen eventually. And he's not the
necessarily wrong there either. But let's be clear exactly what the court was. Fine, fine, good off. But he's the guy who you should be more worried about, frankly, because when he was out of office running for office, he's been okay with this. Now listen, I don't agree with anything, Doc, saying Joe Biden has no interest in this wood.
And in fact, we are not even still out of this because I believe one of the credit authorities has basically not yet said they won't do it downgrade. Correct. No, no, it was fetched. So fetch came out and they said that they were they put us on warning. Are triple a credit rating on warning? Right. So we we're not a hot, but we're not a hundred. We're not going to get it downgrade though.#
probably not, but we're not 100% sure even of that. This would be a disaster, Doc. And I don't understand. We have a very closely, we have a very close electorate Republicans actually have made the case that they are the responsible prudent fiscal ones because they're trying to balance the budget, etc, etc. I think that's a real gamble to sort of
put the country into this total talisman and hope hope that you can win what it will essentially be a PR war at that terror you know where my politics are but and so i'm going to say this as somebody who sits in the middle and tends to lean left right i think it's more of a gamble if we do nothing
I think right now our balance, this is the first time that our debt is greater than our GDP and it's rising fast. Interest rates are crazy high. This is the first year that the interest that we're paying on our debt is bigger than our budget for the defense of this country. This is
unreal. And I think that, you know, to me, this is super important. And I think that, you know, doing nothing would be worse than I don't think we did enough. But sorry, I wanted to let you respond. Well, we may not have done enough, but on the other hand, is the debt ceiling, should we not, in fact, just sort of do the debt ceiling separately?
and then look on budgeting, which nobody actually ever seems to want to really do, Republicans and Democrats alike, correct? You're right. You're right. We should just get rid of this phony debt ceiling stuff. I'm not even sure why we have it at this point. It seems fairly vestigial to me. For the exact reason that you just said that nobody does anything until
this comes up. You know, this is the problem. The problem is, and I will tell you, that the Democrats need to be the party that's thinking about poor people who does inflation hurt the most. It is the most regressive tax you can put on the common man and woman. And I think that there's something
really big here where I think what we're seeing is a rotation in amongst Democrats, we're saying one second, we are crazy in debt, we're supposed to be the party that believes in common sense and yet look at what's going on. They want more entitlements, it's getting out of control and in the end by the way,
who lost the most? You know they barely cut anything in the stupid budget negotiation for the dead ceiling and you know who lost the most? The poorest among us. Like we literally made the this is the worst deal for poor people. Inflation is only going to go up and now snap benefits are getting screwed.
And by the way, the only people that lose are the American people. This is the hard part. Dan, I'll let you jump in. Because I don't know if you agree. I know you're a Democrat, but I do want to get a different point of view about why this issue needs to be figured out. Well, I think what we really need to be acknowledging is that the United
States of America right now is the wealthiest nation in the history of the world. At the same time, we're experiencing the greatest wealth inequality in the world. And rather than using this opportunity to help the working class, to help the people who are struggling the most, we're using this as a way to hurt those people.
And like you know, I agree with what you were saying, Dr. Danish, what you said, this isn't, this shouldn't be the goal of what we're doing right now. Let me bring in Benjamin, Benjamin. I mean, we saw a scenario where there was a number of Republicans, Matt Gehrs being one of them who came on our space and mentioned the issues
had with this bill. Obviously he seems like he's only one of the no votes but essentially Ben, was this a massive missed opportunity if this does go ahead by the Republicans to essentially get what they needed? Yeah actually I do think so right so yesterday on another space I spoke with
with Senator Mike Lee. And I point blank asked him, right? So, I've two questions, right? So, is the fact that basically McCarthy caved? Is that not because I'll recap you off that. Mike Lee said that a tweet saying, "I believe that McCarthy was misled but not malicious." So, first of all, does that not speak to the credibility of the speaker of the house? I mean, the buck does stop with him.
right? That's number one. Number two is, yeah, the bill itself in my mind is just there's a couple things I really don't like, right? So funding for Ukraine, for example, well now it's going to be a through a supplement. It's going to be through discretionary spending. So there's no real cap on that. And I asked him point blank, is this a blank check for Ukraine? And he said, yes.
I think that he, you know, McCarthy probably could have gotten a better deal. Other people, Jim Paphis here, I was speaking with him, he seems to think that the real default date would have been mid-August. He's much more reversed in politics than I am. So I think there could have been a little bit more back and forth negotiation to gotten a better deal.
I don't know how this is going to reflect on Republican leadership right going into next year. Maybe people will forget about it, but I do. I agree with the Republicans. What about the other side of your equation? This budget was all locked in and the points that McCarthy was trying to negotiate were good
We've got basically none of that. How do you blame McCarthy when he has no leverage? That money only comes back if Biden agrees to do it. What if you're in the room and Biden said screw it? I'm not giving it back.
best position i think the republicans were in so let me bring Jim into this gym i mean i do want your thoughts on this because essentially this what this was an opportunity to best to claw back significant issues that republicans had a problems with what in your mind was the specifically one of the specific
The biggest problem out there, one of the elephants in the room, either of their couple of them, is the fact that discretionary spending was
1.34 trillion in 2019 after COVID when it went up to 1.5 to 1.6 and now we're at 1.74 trillion dollars of discretionary spending. That's the spending that we're not required to do. So, security, Medicare, Medicaid and all those are over in non-discretionary spending.
because they're programs that are permanent. But discretionary spending has gone up $300 billion. So that was the biggest thing in the room. I mean, the deal is that Republicans should have fought to pull back the so-called inflation reduction act.
The interesting thing is they had all the leverage. McCarthy, with all due respect, you're wrong. They had all the leverage because they passed a debt ceiling bill at the end of April. And all that McCarthy had to do was say, "There's your bill. We're waiting for you in the Senate to go ahead and vote on
it and you can amend it how you want and then we'll have our negotiations. He should have just said we'll be gone all May until you guys decide that you want to vote on that. That's what he should have done. I mean we don't need Congress in session to pass a bunch of crap. So he had everything was going his way and he totally caved into Biden. That was the outcome here. There are lots
But just directly answer the question. I think I think the ultimately and I put it up in there and by the way, please do comment in the bottom right. When you comment, we usually do take some of the best comments and put them up on the nest and often bring you up to kind of share your thoughts.
This is something that you know, we do have to address which is who is politically was in the best position here obviously I Think personally that the that the McCarthy wasn't the best position sounds like doc thinks that Biden wasn't the
best position or was in the thing you had the most leverage. I don't know how that's possible, Doc. There's no way that Biden, who by the way may not make it to the next term, would want his last legacy to be a government defaulting. It just doesn't make much sense.
But well, he's an imbecile though, Dr. Danish. He's an imbecile. So I got a you got a car. An imbecile who sort of won this negotiation, right? Yeah, I guess I guess what does that say about McCarthy then? Well, it says that McCarthy didn't have the leverage. I would agree with Jim. Jim's much more experienced in terms of of Congress, but Jim said the
I'm saying we disagree and I respect him for that disagreement. I'm just just my position. I've been in hundreds of negotiations and mediation and there's always one party with disproportionate amount of power and that's Biden because he had his money locked in and what did the Republicans
What was they really demanding of speaker McCarthy? They wanted the IRS agent funding pulled back. They wanted the FBI building canceled. There was a laundry list and a congressman Loonas said her first their first priority and she was part of the negotiating team was that we retract that 80 step funding for the IRS agent.
agents and they pull back what? 3% of it? That's reflected back to the $20 billion. They pulled back 20 of the 80 billion. But the thing is that there was no way they were going to process all 80 billion. The 87 IRS, 87,000 IRS agents are coming. You have to retrench all the money.
Now the other portion of this is what was really at risk in terms of default. As a basic principle, I argue that default on not paying some bills is at this stage, is far less problematic than the long term structural problems that we
under we're already approaching a trillion dollars in debt service that's going to be happening in the next few years. There's a lot of stake here and you have to change the trajectory. So, and Jim, I also thought it was interesting to Janet Yellen kept pushing the bank date back, right? Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, I was going to get to that.
So I've calculated these numbers. Listen, in 2011 and 13 when I was working for Tim Hillscamp, we had John Boehner angry with us because we figured out exactly what the measures the Treasury Department could take and you never get all the tiny miniscule details
I'm not going to tell you the details of the information that you have.
Congress. We calculated it again together this time. You could have gone all the way to August 15th. There's absolutely. In fact Janet Yellen, when she moved the date from the first to the fifth, she just pulled that out of the air. There was no real no nothing changed. She was holding things back. I know for a fact
So here's the facts on where we were in that process with Treasury. June 14th was a Social Security payment, a big one. June 15th was the revenue coming in from corporate quarterly, which was going to be a huge jump.
So all she had to do was bridge that 24 hours and then she was all the way to August 15th and we calculated all this so and maybe August the end of August so this that was the game that was being played McCarthy knew this by the way to everyone knows this the things about it okay what why would McCarthy put
has entire, by the way, we both know there's going to be a vote of no confidence in the next month, right? I mean, how is that not possible after this? This is embarrassing. I put a poll in the comment section for people that are going to our comment sections and thank you so much for commenting. We literally nearly double comments in five minutes.
Keep commenting because we will bring those up. But I put a poll out there. 30% of the people, we've already had 60 votes. 30% of people think Republicans lost and 70% of people think that the American people lost. So pretty much no one thinks that the Democrats lost in this negotiation.
And that tells you that McCarthy is in real trouble. Justin, what are your thoughts? I think this is really an issue of timing. Neither party was really going to let this thing default. The question this time around is, was it a benefit to either party to let it go a few days into the technical default?
right at that point you could shut down parts of the federal government which the republicans have before and gotten some ground on at that point the democrats could say and go to the media and and and cry tears about the government shutting down there are benefits for letting this bleed into it but I don't think there was any seriousness about that it isn't elected
It's not an election year. I think they both realized that there was no necessarily good cause to have to let it bleed any more days. I think this was extended for two years, but based on what I understand about the financial dynamics of what's happening,
is going to be some massive turmoil in the next nine months plus. Okay. So once you get into February of next year, it's going to be chaos all over again. And that's where it really benefits people to push the envelope on there. As far as McCarthy goes, this is a black eye for him. He came in. He said, the first act we
will have is to roll back those 87,000 IRS jobs, right? That was a big fight. I mean, the craziest midnight scene to try to get him elected. President Trump had to pull across the finish line. And that was Trump's exit. You know, he said, basically McCarthy is my guy. I'm going to put him in there. And I think it's a real black eye.
both on McCarthy and I think in the end Trump that he backed this guy again and again it's another example of Donald Trump backing the wrong horse. So let me tell some perspective out here and that's all good points Justin I think it's relevant now let's think about this for a second I just want to go back back up just a little bit to is McCarthy hurt
and what is Mark McCarthy's motivation. Now I want you to understand I'm going to repeat something I said just to give clarification. June 14th was a massive Social Security benefits payment between now and June 14th in federal budget terms is Tiki Talley.
$1 million in the
coming into the treasury between now and June 14th is nothing. All that was all the way to the 14th was entire subterfuge. There's no she could move that number all the way to the 14th anyone she wants and I believe beyond that. So let's keep that in mind as we're thinking about this. So why
I would McCarthy put himself at risk. Well, I'm going to tell you why. It was reported, and I have this from folks who were actually in the meeting too that I've talked to members, that when McCarthy walked into the House Conference meeting last night, that there was a cadre of members who were cheering him way to go.
Oh, great deal. Woohoo! And they were given this to him. Like they're gonna, you know, convince Chip Roy that McCarthy did anything. But why were they doing that? Because that's the constituency that McCarthy's playing to. He has to have these moderate Republicans, to Rhinow Republicans,
breaking news. I just want to make sure it's just a scheduling update on what we're expecting for the rest of the day to play out. So at 7.15 this is according to Punchbowl news just moments ago, 7.15 there will be an hour each for both Republicans and Democrats
to debate this bill and then following that debate there will be the vote itself. So that's just the scheduling updates so people are aware of when we can expect a vote on this bill in the House. Then of course by procedure it'll go into the Senate and then if it passes there the president will sign it. How long was the debate going for?
It's not an hour each party is gonna have an hour so that's a point 815 each party will have an hour two hours for ESO. Okay, okay one hour total. Okay, and then that'll be that means 815 that they'll be the vote No, nine it'll be at least 915. I'm assuming you'll go
a little over, plus we'll be recessed in between and some discussion. So we could expect to vote possibly, I'd say, around the 10 o'clock hour. So here's how that's going to work. So what's going to happen is they're going to end debate. And McCarthy's going to have been whipping these, I go on through this over and over again. I'm just telling you guys, McCarthy will
is going to have been whipping those votes and if he has promised Hakeem Jeffries that he will deliver 150 votes, I'm not yet convinced that he has that. I predict that there may be as many votes. How's that possible, Jim? The rules vote just went out. It's done.
No, no, no, no, I'm talking about I'm talking about for the final passage because see he has to have Democrat votes to get this and I know this for a fact so there were many yes-no votes There were yes on the rule Noah on the bill votes. That's why you only saw 52 that's why you had to have 52 Democrats
Democrats vote yes on this and I think it was 39 Republicans voted no. There are going to be a hundred potentially up to a hundred no votes in the Republican caucus. McCarthy is going to release moderate members to vote no because he would require them to vote for him.
because that's his constituency otherwise. So he's going to be talking with them and then we're going to see this vote maybe get a little bit delayed after a debate depending on what he's whipped up to that point. But when the vote happens itself, it's going to once again go past the typical five minutes
Because he's gonna be he's gonna be standing near Hakeem Jeffries talking to his people figuring out who's gonna vote Yes, and who's gonna vote no? This is this is the constant thing on votes like this so that he has a big defeat in his caucus and he knows it and he has to have
have how keen Jeffries coming to them. They've made a deal. I'm already talking about this with people that likely includes massive earmarks in the appropriations process that my general boss and Thomas Massie put together. I'll be a few questions because I think we'll get through a bit about a lot of people that are interested in, especially the average viewer.
In your view you said there's gonna be about a hundred Republicans who are gonna vote in your mind know is that right is that we said? I'm predicting it could be as much as that it may be a little more I don't know for sure. Yeah, but yeah, it's gonna be 60 to 100 okay, and I presume that you believe no Democrat is gonna vote no
No, I don't presume that they're gonna be me Democrats voting no Yeah, but I would be expecting 150 to say yes So no Republicans what what what what what what what what McCarthy's promise Jeffries is 150 Republican yes votes, okay, and so okay, so how many no vote are you how many yes votes?
I mean, that's really that's the best I can tell you, Cillemont, because that's how it's working. That's how the deal works. That's how that's how these things happen on the floor. When they need Democrat votes, then he just talks to a team Jeffries and they he and he came Jeffries in his side or
watching to see how many Republican votes are there and Hakeem Jeffries will release people whom he's decided will vote one way or the other at that moment when they know that he's got his deal met. If the deal doesn't come through, then he polls them all and everything goes to the side. Yeah, because Hakeem Jeffries has more control over his
Marcus, then McCarthy does. Jim, you're essentially saying those words, I'm going to say it more explicitly. Is that I don't want to misrepresent your point? No, you're 100% true down the right now. And to the point where we have the math speaker of the house right now, go ahead Jim. Sorry. Yeah, he to the point where I
I already know this. He's gotten something like a bunch of earmarks for Democrats and the appropriations process later in the year or some other deal that's going to be happening. Some of the people I'm talking to are wondering speculating because I don't have this confirmed. Are they going to get funding for DEI or
or LGBTQ initiatives. Like that's the kind of stuff Jeffries is going to have. There's no way. There is no way, Jim. Oh, yeah. Oh, no, no, no. No, there is way. Absolutely. Guarantee it. Again, this is Michael. This is the common pattern. Michael, that goes a question to a few before you do, Michael, before you do, let me just give it up.
7.15pm is the hour long that's based on resources from Congressional reporters, 7.15pm EST, ET hour long debate on the debt bill, 8.30pm votes are expected and 9.15pm McCarthy will be doing his news conference. So that's the timing that I just got now from the team.
Yeah, so I just want to oppose a question to Jim or whoever else might have some insight first just to unrelated point, but I don't think it really is so much that Kevin McCarthy has less control per se over his caucus than Hakeem Jeffries so much as it is that there's just more ideological homogeneity among
Democrats than there is Republicans. So it's not really a matter of leadership's control. It's a matter of kind of the ideological character of the respective coalitions at this point, although it is the case. I would wager that McCarthy has less control over the caucus, I guess, to
whatever extent that matters. But at the same time, you know, there's no way I don't think that how came Jeffries could exert anywhere near the same control over as Nancy Pelosi did who had a historical amount of it. And you know, she's still around maybe hanging in the background. I was going to say to listen to the
to people. It's as if Nancy Pelosi's spirit is still running the show obviously she's still alive so she's probably is. Well she's still in the house which is amazing. I mean I don't even know what the most recent precedent is for a house speaker to remain in office as this weird speaker emeritus where you know clearly they have this
It's almost like a most academic thing they could ever have done. Go ahead Jim. It's about 50/50 Michael on that. It all depends on the circumstance. But yeah, usually they've left. But let me tell you this. She's helping him with votes because the reason she stuck around is she's trying to help him lay his foundation for the future.
that McCarthy or Jeffries can control, quote unquote, their caucus. And speaking about admiration for Pelosi and Akim Jeffries control of people who are supposed to represent us individually in their districts. So I respect the Republicans for not being controlled by the speaker.
more than I do respect Jeffries for his control of his caucus. Thank you. Well, I think the car you might be underrated in the amount of control he does exert even if it's lesser than Jeffries. I mean, he's managed to and this I think probably requires a bit of political skill and aptitude. You know, he has common
Massey and Marjorie Taylor Greene and people who you might think could be in a position where they're rebelling against the whip. He has them basically acting as de facto whips on his behalf, which is no small thing and might not have been expected back in January when he took eight votes or however many it was to
the uh... speakership electing the yeah well what did that that uh... fidelity he got from gym and uh... and from thomas uh... came because of things that he gave them the chairmanship of the judiciary and thomas a seat on rules committee now one of the thing though to uh... to point
out here. In American politics, we have two major parties, but we do coalitions by other means. So even the Democrats have, Nancy Pelosi was struggling even though she brought it back together. She was always struggling with her folks.
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guess what subscribe is only but the second thing is we've done a few subscriber only spaces and they've been amazing because people get to come up ask us any questions they want it's not recorded so it's really chilled out and it's a lot more fun you get to know get to know me and get to know how much of a nerd Mario's separate to that guys what charity is that the bus transition
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But guys, the sisters of Lockheed Martin. But guys, separate to that right, we are going to be closing this space to give everybody an opportunity to listen to the debate and then we're going to come back half an hour before the vote. So we are going to be back at 8pm
Eastern time. So tune in because we're going to talk about we've got some major guests coming in. We've got a Skyrimuchi coming in. We've got Robert Wolf coming in. We've got a Brian Riddle coming in. We've got and we've got some of our regulars like Tom Fitt and coming in. We've got Kyle Becker and Michael Green.
Michael Green, all of these guys are coming in so it's gonna be major and we got the main girl, Tira, Tira, as well possibly coming to smash all the Republicans. So check it out. I am actually a woman, so am I not a girl, but thank you for that compliment. You are a woman. You are a woman, but when I call you a man,
We need to all rest. We did we just finished it so we did a morning show, down a morning show and then we did the
Crypto show a massive crypto show that we could do every day That we announced with two other big names and then we did a big interview and now we're doing this so we'll take a bit of a break actually Let's do a subscriber space after this so I'm gonna shoot the shit for like 15 minutes I don't know if Don't ever be 15. Yeah, that's fine, but they never know. We'll try to keep it 15 this I'll keep#
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like oh he's only subtracted one person is like a slay man I'm like this is some bullshit. He knows this is bullshit. And that and silly silly silly charges five times more than me and doesn't donate a cent to charity. This is true I can't phone more than you and that
Demonstrates my work. I'm actually all right. The adults who are you figure out the deduplications of enriched uranium? Oh, hey, I could probably speak no We're gonna close now that also opinions are closed Danish guy one really quickly
It's going to be more important to watch. We know that this deal is going to go through. I think it's going to be very important to watch how people posture here and my big prediction is going to be that in the next two weeks there's going to be a vote of no confidence on McCarthy. So McCarthy is in, you know, it's
the end times. So it will be very interesting. When we leaked this four or five days ago now and got all that love and hate, well we said in that leak, if everyone goes to it, let me pin it, let me retweet it. Now we did get community noted and people are like, "Oh yeah, you're annoyed." No, I'm actually like, this is what can
community notes does. Community notes bases their notes on publicly available knowledge. So if someone has something that's leaked or from an inside source like we do others as well, you can't expect community notes to know that and be able to verify those. They rely on the basically. Yeah, but they're relying on mainstream media. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
which would be a little bit more good than bad to just to be clear and any way and you saw me that they are an evidence of that please mario and so so we did say the second to be in the name of the industry treated it let me be in the above as well for a lot of the industry say exactly what we leaked and that we verified multiple sources let me be in the above
So more breaking resources would direct contact with the speakers office confirmed that some information would public blah blah blah. Early rumblings from members about making a motion against the speaker. So that was on May 26th and today June 1st. So not sure how much damage you could share about
the impact that this tweet and this leak had as for you to do, but it was one of the most epic moments we've had in the show. So I've pinned it above and I like how I pinned it, only sure to think that shows is a community note. Look at the pin messages. The only thing that shows is the community note. Love it. Yeah, but that's it. We'll see you all very shortly.
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